The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 622 - The Case For Secession

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, there's been a lot of talk in recent weeks about breaking up the

00:00:03.680 country, having a national divorce. Today, I'll make my case for secession, but also I'm going

00:00:08.080 to explain why I think it'll probably never happen. Also, five headlines, including Biden

00:00:12.220 hacking and coughing and wheezing his way through a speech. How long before President

00:00:16.900 Harris officially takes over? Also, another business owner stands up against tyrannical

00:00:21.240 health inspectors and inmates at a jail in Pennsylvania complain that they're being

00:00:25.440 persecuted by the dinner menu, plus our daily cancellation and much more today on the Matt

00:00:30.780 Walsh Show.

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00:02:19.940 You know, it's always better, I think, to frame political conversations within the context of

00:02:23.660 reality. And so we should begin by acknowledging that in reality, there will almost certainly be

00:02:28.280 no serious move towards secession or national divorce. The Civil War has already settled the

00:02:33.580 question of whether states will be allowed to peacefully secede. Notice, I don't say that the Civil

00:02:38.840 War settled the question of whether states ought to be able to secede. I believe they should and do 0.82

00:02:45.320 have such a right. A union held together merely by the fact that the United Parties are compelled to

00:02:51.560 unity by force is no true union at all, in my opinion. You know, a man might prevent his wife from

00:02:57.880 leaving him by locking her in the basement. But as soon as the marriage requires kidnapping to be

00:03:03.300 maintained, it's effectively nullified already. The Civil War established that states will not be

00:03:09.580 allowed to leave without a fight to the death. Not that they have no right to leave. Now, many people

00:03:15.560 argue that the Civil War showed that states cannot leave for a bad reason, like to maintain slavery.

00:03:21.680 I would agree that slavery is a bad thing and a bad reason to secede. But there shouldn't be any

00:03:25.680 authority above the individual state which gets to decide whether that state's reason for leaving is

00:03:30.520 permissible or not. The wife may have a bad reason for leaving her husband, but there couldn't be any 0.57

00:03:35.680 reason that justifies kidnapping. Besides, the Yanks weren't marching down south to kill the Rebs to 0.83

00:03:40.880 stop them from dissolving the union over slavery. They were marching to stop them from dissolving the

00:03:46.360 union, period. The North didn't decide that the war was about freeing the slaves until many thousands

00:03:50.880 were already laying dead on the battlefield. Lincoln put it on the record that he was determined to

00:03:54.720 preserve the union, whether that meant keeping slavery or abolishing it either way. But to the

00:04:01.940 victor goes the spoils. And one spoil in this case is a fundamental shift, mutation some would say,

00:04:07.920 in the way we define union on a national level. Once we were states freely bonded together through

00:04:14.320 mutual consent, now we are property of the federal government maintained in our union by the fact

00:04:20.000 that we'll probably be killed if we try to leave it. So, there will be no divorce or secession now without

00:04:26.820 war. And as for war, I really don't think that a country hooked on Netflix, binges, video games, fast food

00:04:34.020 has the will or the interest to fight a war on their own soil. I mean, at the end of the day, we all want to

00:04:40.040 be at home in our sweatpants watching reruns of The Office and waiting for the DoorDash guy to bring us our

00:04:45.300 carton of Kung Pao chicken. Or maybe that's just me. I don't know. Anyone who's

00:04:49.900 studied the Civil War at all knows that it was, if nothing else, a horrific period in our history

00:04:54.420 when men suffered greatly and died horribly because they wanted something badly and believed

00:04:59.740 in their cause deeply. We are just too apathetic and too risk-averse to willingly embrace those

00:05:06.120 horrors again. Whether that's a good or bad thing is a debate for another time. That's the reality,

00:05:12.140 depressing as it may be. But putting reality to the side, it's worth thinking about what should

00:05:17.800 happen. Now, it seems certain that the country will not break apart, but should it? Imagining

00:05:23.360 for a moment that it were possible for states to leave the union without 2% of the population

00:05:28.280 dying again in a cataclysmic war of attrition, would that be for the best? Out of all the

00:05:33.300 possible paths forward, would secession be the most preferable, if also the least plausible?

00:05:38.400 I think so. If divorce were possible, it should be what we elect to do. The reason, as I've argued

00:05:46.160 many times in the past, is that we're already divorced in every way but officially. The left

00:05:51.500 and right, and these groups themselves are splintered, especially on the right, have a wide

00:05:55.880 and impassable gulf between them. They have nothing in common, even at the most basic level. No shared

00:06:01.340 priorities, beliefs, goals, values. We might as well be living in different galaxies. You know,

00:06:06.740 if I wanted to meaningfully unite with someone who believes that America is systemically racist,

00:06:12.800 babies aren't people, men have uteruses, the police should be defunded, prefer socialism over

00:06:18.440 capitalism, I wouldn't know how. You know, I can't relate to such a person on any level at all.

00:06:25.260 So unite around what? By what? Through what? We have nothing in common. We share nothing except

00:06:31.340 maybe a language, but even that's not guaranteed these days. We used to share at least a handful of

00:06:36.160 cultural traditions, but those have all been rendered political and quote-unquote problematic.

00:06:41.580 We don't have the deeper and more fundamental commonalities. Neither do we have the more

00:06:45.720 superficial, which means we have nothing to bind us together at all except the simple fact that we

00:06:51.180 are bound. That's not how I want it to be, but it's how it is. If secession and separation are not

00:06:58.380 our fate, and as I said, they probably won't be, then what else? The preferability of divorce

00:07:03.560 becomes clearer when you consider the other options, which so far as I can tell can be boiled

00:07:08.540 down to three possibilities. I think if it's not secession, then here are the three paths that we

00:07:14.660 may go from here. Number one, we could have indefinite stalemate and stagnation. This is the

00:07:22.220 possibility that Ross Douthit, if that's how you pronounce his name, I can never quite figure it out,

00:07:26.200 explores in the Decadent Society, a book that just published a few months ago, which I would recommend.

00:07:30.480 He argues that we're doomed, for a while at least, to drift along aimlessly in political and cultural

00:07:37.040 stalemate, not collapsing catastrophically, but also not achieving or advancing in any particular

00:07:41.700 direction. I tend to agree that this is what's happening and probably will continue happening,

00:07:47.160 but I wouldn't choose it. It's not the best path, even if it's the most likely. The Bible says that

00:07:52.660 Christ will spit the lukewarm out of his mouth. It's sort of horrifying to think that my children will

00:07:58.400 inherit a lukewarm civilization sputtering along, not hot or cold, neither dead nor alive, heading

00:08:05.200 neither toward ruin nor glory. Number two, other possibility, escalating violence and unrest.

00:08:12.540 Recent events may point to this possibility. For a while, leftist radicals reigned terror in our

00:08:18.000 cities unopposed, basically. Now they're being met with force. Could continue like this, getting

00:08:23.620 bloodier and more brutal, never turning into a full-scale organized war, but causing untold death

00:08:29.440 and damage all the same. And then number three, there could be unity. That's possible. But through

00:08:35.640 submission. See, there's always the possibility that division will give way to unity. But this can't

00:08:41.680 happen through compromise, as there is no middle ground between two diametrically opposed views of life

00:08:48.260 and reality. I can't meet someone halfway when they argue in favor of giving hormones to physically 0.53

00:08:55.200 healthy children or insist that it's automatically racist for white police officers to shoot violent 0.99

00:09:00.720 black suspects. Where's the halfway point on those issues or any of the other ones that separate us? 0.81

00:09:06.220 What's the halfway point between theism and atheistic nihilism? How do I compromise with a worldview that

00:09:12.480 defines itself by its opposition to my own? It would seem that the only way to achieve unity

00:09:18.180 would be for one side or the other to surrender. There's a great gulf between us and nowhere to meet

00:09:25.640 within that gap. But one side could abandon its post and just join the other. The problem is that given our

00:09:33.060 cultural trajectory and the thorough hold the left has on the youngest generations, I don't see them

00:09:37.440 abandoning their post anytime soon. So if any side is going to give up the ghost in the coming decades, I have to

00:09:43.400 admit that it's probably more likely to be the one that I'm on. And that's an option that I find

00:09:47.440 infinitely more horrifying and undesirable than secession. These would seem to be the three

00:09:52.760 possible doors that our civilization could open and walk through. Right now, we're sort of standing

00:09:57.060 in the foyer, wavering between these options, getting a taste of all three. The fourth, the door

00:10:03.880 to secession and national divorce is way off to the side, not being seriously considered by enough people

00:10:09.540 to make it a plausible option at this point. But I firmly believe it would be for the best.

00:10:13.740 America has never been a nation bonded together by one shared religion or ethnicity, but we did once

00:10:21.660 share a creed, however imperfectly we lived by it. We no longer have that creed in common

00:10:28.240 or really anything else in common. It's sad. It's not what I want, but it's the truth.

00:10:36.260 And I wish that now we could all acknowledge it, go our separate ways once and for all.

00:10:44.300 Now, let's get to our five headlines.

00:10:51.820 Well, anyway, now that I just explained why the country should divorce and break apart,

00:10:57.760 let's get to it. I did want to mention something on a lighter note, totally unrelated, but I was just

00:11:04.260 thinking about it because I was reading something on Twitter, someone lecturing truck drivers saying

00:11:09.760 that truck drivers are, you know, there's no excuse to drive a truck and cars are getting so much bigger

00:11:15.240 now and it's a big problem and we're destroying the environment. And I say they're lecturing truck

00:11:19.880 drivers. I can say we truck drivers now because I bought my first pickup truck, which I was very

00:11:24.220 excited about, last week. I just bought it. And something very strange has happened. Now, this was not

00:11:30.000 cultural appropriation. I know I just moved to Tennessee and buying a pickup truck. It seems like

00:11:34.200 cultural appropriation. It's not exactly. I mean, I always had in mind that I wanted one. We decided

00:11:38.420 let's go ahead and get it. This very weird thing happened, though. And I'm not I'm not even making this

00:11:42.960 up. This is really I can't explain it. It's like a scientific phenomenon. But I've always I've never

00:11:49.120 been a fan of country music. I've always hated it, actually, just viscerally. But I got the pickup truck

00:11:55.220 and now I've noticed that it sounds sort of good now in the truck. I'm actually find myself

00:12:00.480 listening to country music. I don't know what it is. It's just that's the secret. You have to listen

00:12:05.780 to it in a truck. And the only thing I do now, I guess, is the cowboy boots. All right, we're going

00:12:10.940 to move on. Number one, Joe Biden gave a speech yesterday after the Electoral College vote.

00:12:16.720 But the headline for me wasn't anything that he said. Rather, it was the way he struggled mightily

00:12:22.460 to say it. Let's let's take a listen to that. Once again, the American America, the rule of law,

00:12:30.220 more Americans voted this year and have ever voted in the history of the United States votes counted

00:12:35.020 and a Pence received when they won in 2016. Excuse me. Or dispute the results margin four years ago.

00:12:46.260 And yet I thank them. And I'm convinced we can work together for the good of the nation.

00:12:52.460 On many subjects. That's the duty owed to the people, to our Constitution, to our history.

00:13:01.340 You know, in this battle for the soul of America, democracy prevailed. We, the people, voted.

00:13:08.560 Faith in our institutions held. The integrity of our elections remains intact.

00:13:13.960 And now it's time to turn the page, as we've done throughout our history, to unite, to heal.

00:13:22.040 As I said in this campaign, I will be president for all Americans. I'll work just as hard for those

00:13:29.620 of you who didn't vote for me as I will for those who did. There's urgent work in front of us.

00:13:36.100 And getting this pandemic under control and getting the nation vaccinated against this virus.

00:13:41.640 Yeah, there is urgent work. I'm just wondering if he's going to be around for it.

00:13:47.380 I mean, you could say it's unfair, something like that. I mean, maybe he has a cold or something.

00:13:54.040 And anyone that has experienced public speaking, we've all been in that situation before where your

00:13:58.480 voice is giving out. And it's not fun. But it does, obviously, it just brings to mind the concern

00:14:06.600 that we've got this 78-year-old man who's already physically deteriorating and mentally deteriorating

00:14:12.440 who's going to be in the White House. I guess now we just, you know, it's always been clear to me

00:14:19.440 that there's no way we get to 2024 and Joe Biden is still in the White House as president. So it's

00:14:30.180 just, I guess now it's just a question of how long will it be? My prediction is, this is what I would

00:14:34.760 predict. You could take this to the bank. Actually don't, because my political predictions are pretty

00:14:40.120 much always wrong. So don't listen to this at all, but I'm going to say it. My prediction would be

00:14:44.880 that within about six, it'll take six months, not for Joe Biden to step down, but within six months,

00:14:52.300 there will be very audible and public calls from people on the left that he should think about

00:14:59.140 stepping down. I would say they're going to wait, because this is their plan all along, of course.

00:15:03.940 This is inevitable, that they're going to at least make that call because they want to get

00:15:07.000 Kamala Harris in there. I would say they'll probably wait six months and then the calls will start. 0.99

00:15:14.880 How long will it be before Joe Biden actually does step to the side? I don't know, but it's really

00:15:21.460 hard for me to see him making it all the way to 2024, the age of 82. As I've been saying all along,

00:15:28.720 even if he wasn't just about to take on the most stressful job on earth and he was just retired,

00:15:35.900 sitting in his rocking chair on the porch, I would still say, you know, I don't know if he's going to

00:15:41.620 be with us in four years. But considering he's taking on the most stressful job and he's not

00:15:46.340 going to be sitting on his porch in a rocking chair and he is going to have to come out of his

00:15:49.860 basement, it just makes it all the more clear to me. So what happens? I guess we're going to discover

00:15:57.540 this. If the president is completely incapacitated, are they going to tell us that?

00:16:03.220 Um, how long before they tell us? I guess we'll find out. Number two, big news today about Pornhub.

00:16:13.420 We've been following this story. Here's the article in The Verge. It says, Pornhub is removing all

00:16:18.920 videos uploaded to its site by unverified users, millions of videos in total as part of a crackdown

00:16:25.120 on user uploaded content after two major payment processors suspended service.

00:16:29.420 Um, the decision first reported by Motherboard stems from a New York Times report that found

00:16:34.340 the site was hosting videos of people who are underage and videos showing children being

00:16:38.180 assaulted. Well, yeah, the New York Times found that, but, uh, that, that that's all, it's been

00:16:43.800 known that this is, this is, it was not news. Um, that anyone has been paying attention. The site

00:16:49.200 announced last Tuesday that it would begin limiting uploads to verified users only. Um, it appears

00:16:55.640 that Pornhub has wiped out more than 10 million videos as of this writing. And I don't see the

00:17:02.440 percentage here listed, but what I saw online was it was like 50 or 60% of the content has been wiped

00:17:09.380 out, which is great. I mean, it's, it's progress. Now, again, I would, for me, what I would prefer

00:17:16.400 to see happen or what I ultimately would like to see happen is that Pornhub is shut down and his

00:17:19.860 executives are marched to prison and locked in cages and prison for the rest of their lives.

00:17:23.920 That I think is the ultimate goal. Um, that's what I would love to see happen. That's, that's

00:17:27.140 what should happen. I mean, when you, when you make billions monetizing child rape, I don't think

00:17:32.540 you should be able to say, Oh my bad, sorry. And just start taking it down and then go about your

00:17:37.740 merry way. And I don't think that's how it should happen. I think there should be real consequences

00:17:40.900 for it. But, um, this is a step in the right direction. The only point here, like we talked about

00:17:49.420 last week when we were discussing this issue is that Pornhub again is a multi-billion dollar

00:17:55.580 porn aggregator, um, that has, that has monetized child rape and, and other forms of, of evil

00:18:04.820 degeneracy. And that's how they've, they've made a living. That's how they've made their money, 0.68

00:18:08.340 which means you can't trust them. So any, any amount of self-regulating, you can't trust it.

00:18:13.380 The question now is, Oh, we're only going to allow it from verified users. Well, what does

00:18:17.880 that mean? So they're making this big show of purging everything doing this after, remember

00:18:22.460 last week, initially when the report came out, they said, Oh, there's no problem. What are you

00:18:26.980 talking about? Everything's fine. You know, we're, we're, we're reviewing every video and we've got

00:18:32.040 procedures in place. Now they're turning around and wiping out 10 million videos. Turns out that was a

00:18:37.120 problem, which only goes to show you can't trust them. So, uh, verified users, what does that mean?

00:18:41.980 From what I read, uh, website called fight the new drug, which is a, an anti-porn watchdog.

00:18:48.640 What they say is that the process for getting verified on Pornhub, all that means is that you

00:18:54.440 take a picture, you know, you write your name and your birth date, or maybe not even your birth date.

00:18:59.300 I think you just write your name down on a piece of paper or somewhere on your body and you take a

00:19:03.540 picture and you send it in. Okay. That's more than nothing, but it's not a lot more than nothing.

00:19:11.980 And it seems to me that someone could still be underage and do that, or they could still go

00:19:18.020 through that verification process and then upload a video that features an underage person or someone

00:19:24.200 who's not consenting. So this is a step in the right direction. It's not as big a step as it seems.

00:19:31.500 Uh, number three, here's a, another video that you both love and hate to see. You hate to see it

00:19:37.440 because it's another business owner being persecuted by tyrannical bureaucrats. You love

00:19:41.400 to see it because it's also another business owner refusing to take it lying down. Uh, we'll play a

00:19:45.680 bit of this exchange. This is the owner of Nick, the Greek restaurant in, I believe, California dealing

00:19:51.720 with the, a public health inspector who's come to the business to further harass and extort him.

00:19:57.480 Um, and, uh, here's how that exchange went.

00:19:59.480 I am fully able to know if my tables are inside. Just because the health department has a whole

00:20:05.480 process to go through that takes however long that takes, I have to close my business for that time.

00:20:11.440 Who's, are you going to pay my rent? Are you going to pay my rent?

00:20:14.680 And you chose to make those decisions.

00:20:16.480 I chose to protest by putting my tables outside and by reiterating the debt. I never served one

00:20:21.520 single person outside. I did all take out food and delivery to what exactly I was supposed to be

00:20:27.200 doing. That's exactly what I did. I did not break any, and the disability in the law, I did not break any rule.

00:20:33.840 There, there is a law that you're breaking right now by operating without a permit.

00:20:38.720 I, because you guys put this closure on the restaurant, right? So you, you guys yourselves

00:20:45.200 are creating your own rule and you're getting my citation for your own rule that's created.

00:20:50.400 It's not by law that you cannot sit outside and eat. That's not law. That's the order that was given.

00:20:56.480 That, that exchange, uh, you can go online and find it. That exchange goes on for a while.

00:21:01.100 That's just a part of it there. And every bit of pushback and anger that he is,

00:21:08.720 is directing towards these people is deserved. And I, I've seen some, some people online,

00:21:14.260 I guess, trying to be, uh, trying to be gracious. I think far too gracious saying, well,

00:21:19.880 uh, you know, these public health inspectors, you know, they're doing their job and maybe they don't

00:21:25.600 want to be doing it either. And they're, you know, it's, it's not up to them. They're just enforcing

00:21:29.700 the rules. Um, no, this is, this is a, you know, I was following orders kind of excuse. Uh,

00:21:35.220 these people, these bureaucrats showing up to these businesses, I don't care if they're following

00:21:40.540 orders or not. I don't care if they set the rules or not. Um, that's no excuse. And they deserve

00:21:48.020 every bit of derision and hatred and everything that they, that they get contempt that's directed

00:21:55.020 at them. Because you're at a point right now where if, if this, if this is your job, then you need to

00:22:00.380 step down and say, I'm not going to do this job. No, it's not an easy thing to do. It's easy for me

00:22:04.960 to say, but that's the right choice. When you're in a job and someone tells you, okay, go to this

00:22:10.740 business owner and, uh, you know, harass them for just trying to conduct their business. Go, in fact,

00:22:17.400 go into this business and try to find something they're doing wrong so that you can find them.

00:22:24.220 Um, even when they're already in the midst of a financial crisis, because that's what these

00:22:29.920 people are doing. They're just going in looking for a problem. That's when, if you're a decent,

00:22:36.060 good person, that's when you say, uh, no, you can take this job and shove it. Cause I'm not going to

00:22:41.260 do it. All right. Um, number four, Deborah Messing is an actress. She got herself in the hot water when 0.99

00:22:49.240 she said that she, she hopes Trump goes to prison and becomes quote, the most popular boyfriend in

00:22:55.040 prison. And this, this got her into hot water because now only, only because it's homophobic 0.76

00:23:00.980 allegedly to say that, um, she wasn't in hot water for, you know, wishing this on the president. It

00:23:06.800 was just the comment that she made. People were saying, even some people on the left were saying

00:23:10.740 that's homophobic. Uh, well to, to combat this claim that she's anti-gay, she posted a clarification

00:23:16.380 and it may be one of the strangest clarifications in history. I don't know. Here's what she says.

00:23:26.060 Let me be clear. I said nothing about the LGBTQI slash queer love, right? Wait, hold on. I said 1.00

00:23:34.920 nothing about LGBTQI slash queer love. Okay. Rape is an act of violence. Trump has perpetrated violence

00:23:42.200 on hundreds of millions of people. My hope is, and this is the first time in my life that the

00:23:47.460 tables are turned and he is the victim of perpetrators. Hashtag LGBTQI ally. So here's

00:23:56.280 what she's saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, guys, you misunderstood me. Oh, you thought I said

00:24:00.720 something offensive. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, I was only saying, I hope the president is

00:24:04.900 raped. That's all I was trying to say. That's it. Uh, and I like how she clarifies, this is the first 1.00

00:24:13.440 time. This is the first time in my life I've ever wished rape on someone. This is, this is my first 0.63

00:24:17.940 time. All right. We all, we all, we all, we all wish it sometimes on people. This is my first time.

00:24:23.620 She really, and she thinks that that's, that's enough. Like she, she really doesn't understand.

00:24:29.400 This is, this is a lot of people on the left. They, they really don't see the problem. Like she,

00:24:34.540 she's actually surprised that people have a problem with it. She can't understand.

00:24:39.860 She's saying, what, I'm just, I'm just wishing violence and sexual violation on my political 0.96

00:24:45.340 enemies. What do you mean? These people aren't even, they're not even people. Of course I can do that. 0.92

00:24:51.120 And that's how they see, that's how they see not only Trump, but, uh, but all conservatives.

00:24:55.900 All right, let's go. Finally, number five,

00:24:59.660 controversy and outrage surrounding alleged mistreatment of inmates at the Allegheny

00:25:04.520 County jail in Pennsylvania. Uh, one inmate had a video call with his aunt. And I guess

00:25:09.780 this is something you can do in jail. Now you can have video calls news to me, but, uh, he had a

00:25:15.160 video call with his aunt and he showed what he'd been served for dinner and he requested that she

00:25:19.240 make it go viral. And she did. And it's, uh, being a, been a big controversy, especially in Pennsylvania.

00:25:25.020 Here's the video. Watch.

00:25:25.900 This is the dinner that they serving us in the jail tonight, which is baloney with applesauce

00:25:31.160 in it and Teddy grams. That's the only thing that's on our trade for dinner tonight. No juice,

00:25:35.420 no vegetables, no fruit, no nothing. I want you to make this go viral onto you. You hear me?

00:25:41.240 This is our dinner right here. Make sure you take a picture too. Send it, send it out and put it on

00:25:45.740 all over social media, put it all over the internet. This is our dinner for the night.

00:25:50.340 They're not giving us our fruits and vegetables. They're not giving us our protein or anything.

00:25:53.980 This is warm baloney right here in applesauce with a little pack of Teddy grams. That's our

00:25:59.580 trade for dinner tonight. But they're telling us to deal with it or eat. That's what they're

00:26:03.440 telling us tonight. All right. And I want you to see this. I want you to send it out on a mass email,

00:26:10.440 whatever you got to do, get it all on social media, to the news and everybody.

00:26:14.640 Um, first, can I, can I just say, and not that that would be a dinner that I would personally enjoy.

00:26:21.520 Um, I'm also not in prison, you know, I'm not in jail, so I didn't get arrested. So I, I'm,

00:26:27.280 I'm able to go and buy what I wanted for dinner. Uh, I mean, you're, you're not an outback steakhouse

00:26:32.740 here. You're, you're in jail, uh, which is, which is, you know, at least one step below an outback

00:26:37.740 steakhouse. Uh, but he says, we're not getting our fruits and protein. What do you mean? You got

00:26:42.480 applesauce and you got, you got baloney. That's, that's a fruit and protein. I don't really understand

00:26:47.880 the applesauce in the bologna. That part of it, it seemed almost like it was like a, it was like a,

00:26:52.880 a bologna burrito with apples, like bologna wrapped around applesauce. I don't know if he did that

00:26:59.440 himself or if that's what they serve. That part of it, I'll admit is strange, but the rest of it,

00:27:04.060 my kids would go wild. If my kids were in jail and they got that meal, they would say,

00:27:09.600 I want to stay in jail forever. My kids would go wild for that meal. Um, but one other point also

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00:27:31.420 you're served a meal, you're in jail, you're served a meal, you can do a video call complaining

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00:30:47.320 fabled reverse cancellations. This is, uh, when I am in the midst of being canceled myself, yet I managed

00:30:54.140 to break free, turn the tables and cancel the cancelers. It's always very exciting. So today I'm

00:30:59.140 canceling those who are trying to cancel me for my take on the Cleveland Indians who announced that

00:31:04.100 they'll be changing their name because the name Indians is offensive somehow to Indians.

00:31:08.100 Incidentally, the Cleveland Browns lost last night to the Baltimore Ravens on a 55 year old

00:31:14.000 yard field goal in the final seconds of the game after Lamar Jackson, the Baltimore Ravens quarterback

00:31:18.460 had run back onto the field after missing half of the fourth quarter with cramps that some say

00:31:22.380 was probably code for. He had to use the bathroom. Anyway, my point is that I like to think the sports

00:31:27.220 gods were punishing the city of Cleveland for its cowardice. Um, not that the city of Cleveland really

00:31:31.960 needs to be punished when it comes to sports anymore than it already has been over the last several

00:31:35.120 decades. In any case, the Indians will not be the Indians anymore. Uh, this news has been celebrated 1.00

00:31:41.060 by those on the left to assure us that the native American community never feels more seen and

00:31:46.680 understood and respected than when all mention of the native American community is removed from

00:31:51.060 popular culture. Indeed, TMZ reports today that native American leaders expect that the suicide rate

00:31:57.000 in that community is going to go down because the Cleveland baseball team has chosen a different

00:32:02.060 mascot. I'm not making that up. That is really what is being claimed that it's going to lower the

00:32:07.020 suicide rate. I briefly mentioned this story about the Cleveland baseball team on the show yesterday.

00:32:12.420 I also mentioned it briefly on Twitter in both forums. I argued as I have in the past that

00:32:17.180 having a team name and a mascot based around native Americans is no more or less offensive than having

00:32:24.040 one based on any other group, namely the Irish, the Boston Celtics, for example, are called the Boston

00:32:29.580 Boston Celtics and their mascot is a leprechaun. The fighting Irish of Notre Dame also have a

00:32:33.900 leprechaun mascot. Only theirs is a bit more ornery. This is the point that I posted on Twitter. I said,

00:32:39.840 uh, quote, quoting myself, I have never heard anyone ever complain about the Boston Celtics and their

00:32:44.200 stereotypical mascot. If Cleveland Indian is offensive, then so is this, but this isn't offensive

00:32:48.900 to anyone with a brain and a shred of emotional maturity. And neither is Cleveland Indian. 1.00

00:32:53.280 Now I must admit, I do deserve to be canceled for this tweet only because of the typo on then I

00:33:01.340 spelled it T H A N instead of T H E N. Normally I have a policy of deleting all typo tweets, but I

00:33:07.660 couldn't delete this one because leftists were mad at it for another reason. So I had to choose

00:33:12.080 between preserving my dignity and deleting it because of the typo or keeping the tweet up in service of

00:33:17.240 triggering the libs. As George Washington once said, when given a choice between triggering the libs

00:33:22.400 or not triggering them, always trigger them. But much of the outrage, derision, mockery,

00:33:28.000 et cetera, directed at me is not over the typo as it should be, but over the point that I'm making.

00:33:33.220 A great many media people, especially sports media have responded saying just to summarize here, 1.00

00:33:37.820 basically they say, Oh, you idiot. That's, that's not the same. Besides leprechauns are fictional 1.00

00:33:42.300 characters. Didn't you know that? What do you think the Boston Celtics is offensive to leprechauns?

00:33:48.100 Yes. Got him. Yes. Leprechauns are fictional characters. Okay. Then so you're saying that you're

00:33:57.000 saying that's okay. So what you're telling me is that it's okay to make a team name out of an ethnic 0.74

00:34:01.940 group. As long as the mascot is a make-believe creature associated with the traditions and

00:34:07.820 mythologies of that group. That's what you want to go with. Okay. Well then here's my proposal.

00:34:13.760 Let's keep them the Cleveland Indians and make their mascot a character from Native American

00:34:19.020 folklore. The Lakota, for example, believed in forest spirits who were like magical dwarves living

00:34:25.380 in the trees. Canotelia, they called them. Probably mispronounced it. Is that better? Make them the

00:34:32.660 Indians, but with the magical dwarf as the mascot, sort of like a leprechaun. How's that sound? Would that

00:34:38.360 be okay? Oh no, no, that wouldn't be. In fact, that would be even worse, wouldn't it? You'd say

00:34:44.380 it's still a problem because the name is still Indians. And now we've appropriated their cultural

00:34:49.020 mythology and turned it into a mascot, made a joke of it. I've also been told that the fighting Irish

00:34:54.980 and the Celtics are not offensive because those team names are based on the predominant ethnicity

00:34:59.720 of their fan base, at least historically, right? A lot of Irish people in Boston. Okay. So that's

00:35:06.180 the rule now. A basketball team can make a group race or ethnicity into a mascot as long as it's a

00:35:12.720 race or ethnicity common in their fan base. Something tells me this logic would get a sports

00:35:18.500 organization into a lot of trouble if they tried to apply it to virtually anyone but the Irish.

00:35:24.280 The other excuse I've heard is that it's different because Native Americans are historically

00:35:27.760 persecuted group. Unlike the Irish, who famously have had an enormously easy ride all through history, 1.00

00:35:34.260 right? No, of course not. The Irish have been persecuted too, in this country and their own.

00:35:40.260 So that excuse doesn't wash either. See, when you sift through all of the arguments for why it's

00:35:46.020 offensive to make Indians into a team name or a mascot, but not the Irish, you begin to quickly

00:35:52.640 realize that all the arguments are utter hogwash, as the kids would say. Whatever tortured logic makes

00:35:59.800 Indians or Braves offensive must also apply to drunken leprechaun mascots to represent teams with

00:36:06.840 Irish and Celtic in their name. And those on the left, here's the thing, they could quite easily make

00:36:13.260 their point, achieve their desired end, if they simply said, yeah, you're right, that's offensive too,

00:36:18.680 let's get rid of that also. But they won't say that. They can't say that. Because that would be to

00:36:25.420 admit that non-white groups shouldn't get any special consideration, nor do they corner the market

00:36:32.360 on persecution, nor should we have more respect for them than we do any other group. It would be to,

00:36:39.460 it would be, in other words, to treat all groups equally, which is the last thing that anybody on the

00:36:45.120 left wants to do. But they won't admit that, so they're stuck trying to find differences where

00:36:50.340 none exist and ignore them where they do. For that reason, they are canceled. Not me. I'm only

00:36:57.780 partially canceled for the typo thing, but I'm right about the mascot thing, and let's focus on what

00:37:03.000 I'm right about today and always. And that's going to do it for our show today. Thanks for watching,

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The Matt Walsh Show - December 15, 2020

Ep. 622 - The Case For Secession

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