Ep. 622 - The Case For Secession
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Summary
There s a lot of talk in recent weeks about breaking up the country, having a national divorce, and much more. Today, I m going to explain why I think it ll probably never happen. Also, including Biden coughing and wheezing his way through a speech, how long before President Harris officially takes over? Also, another business owner stands up against tyrannical health inspectors, and inmates at a jail in Pennsylvania complain that they re being persecuted by the dinner menu, Plus, our daily cancellation!
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, there's been a lot of talk in recent weeks about breaking up the
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country, having a national divorce. Today, I'll make my case for secession, but also I'm going
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to explain why I think it'll probably never happen. Also, five headlines, including Biden
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hacking and coughing and wheezing his way through a speech. How long before President
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Harris officially takes over? Also, another business owner stands up against tyrannical
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health inspectors and inmates at a jail in Pennsylvania complain that they're being
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persecuted by the dinner menu, plus our daily cancellation and much more today on the Matt
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You know, it's always better, I think, to frame political conversations within the context of
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reality. And so we should begin by acknowledging that in reality, there will almost certainly be
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no serious move towards secession or national divorce. The Civil War has already settled the
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question of whether states will be allowed to peacefully secede. Notice, I don't say that the Civil
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War settled the question of whether states ought to be able to secede. I believe they should and do
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have such a right. A union held together merely by the fact that the United Parties are compelled to
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unity by force is no true union at all, in my opinion. You know, a man might prevent his wife from
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leaving him by locking her in the basement. But as soon as the marriage requires kidnapping to be
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maintained, it's effectively nullified already. The Civil War established that states will not be
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allowed to leave without a fight to the death. Not that they have no right to leave. Now, many people
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argue that the Civil War showed that states cannot leave for a bad reason, like to maintain slavery.
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I would agree that slavery is a bad thing and a bad reason to secede. But there shouldn't be any
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authority above the individual state which gets to decide whether that state's reason for leaving is
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permissible or not. The wife may have a bad reason for leaving her husband, but there couldn't be any
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reason that justifies kidnapping. Besides, the Yanks weren't marching down south to kill the Rebs to
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stop them from dissolving the union over slavery. They were marching to stop them from dissolving the
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union, period. The North didn't decide that the war was about freeing the slaves until many thousands
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were already laying dead on the battlefield. Lincoln put it on the record that he was determined to
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preserve the union, whether that meant keeping slavery or abolishing it either way. But to the
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victor goes the spoils. And one spoil in this case is a fundamental shift, mutation some would say,
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in the way we define union on a national level. Once we were states freely bonded together through
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mutual consent, now we are property of the federal government maintained in our union by the fact
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that we'll probably be killed if we try to leave it. So, there will be no divorce or secession now without
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war. And as for war, I really don't think that a country hooked on Netflix, binges, video games, fast food
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has the will or the interest to fight a war on their own soil. I mean, at the end of the day, we all want to
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be at home in our sweatpants watching reruns of The Office and waiting for the DoorDash guy to bring us our
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carton of Kung Pao chicken. Or maybe that's just me. I don't know. Anyone who's
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studied the Civil War at all knows that it was, if nothing else, a horrific period in our history
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when men suffered greatly and died horribly because they wanted something badly and believed
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in their cause deeply. We are just too apathetic and too risk-averse to willingly embrace those
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horrors again. Whether that's a good or bad thing is a debate for another time. That's the reality,
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depressing as it may be. But putting reality to the side, it's worth thinking about what should
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happen. Now, it seems certain that the country will not break apart, but should it? Imagining
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for a moment that it were possible for states to leave the union without 2% of the population
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dying again in a cataclysmic war of attrition, would that be for the best? Out of all the
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possible paths forward, would secession be the most preferable, if also the least plausible?
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I think so. If divorce were possible, it should be what we elect to do. The reason, as I've argued
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many times in the past, is that we're already divorced in every way but officially. The left
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and right, and these groups themselves are splintered, especially on the right, have a wide
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and impassable gulf between them. They have nothing in common, even at the most basic level. No shared
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priorities, beliefs, goals, values. We might as well be living in different galaxies. You know,
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if I wanted to meaningfully unite with someone who believes that America is systemically racist,
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babies aren't people, men have uteruses, the police should be defunded, prefer socialism over
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capitalism, I wouldn't know how. You know, I can't relate to such a person on any level at all.
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So unite around what? By what? Through what? We have nothing in common. We share nothing except
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maybe a language, but even that's not guaranteed these days. We used to share at least a handful of
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cultural traditions, but those have all been rendered political and quote-unquote problematic.
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We don't have the deeper and more fundamental commonalities. Neither do we have the more
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superficial, which means we have nothing to bind us together at all except the simple fact that we
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are bound. That's not how I want it to be, but it's how it is. If secession and separation are not
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our fate, and as I said, they probably won't be, then what else? The preferability of divorce
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becomes clearer when you consider the other options, which so far as I can tell can be boiled
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down to three possibilities. I think if it's not secession, then here are the three paths that we
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may go from here. Number one, we could have indefinite stalemate and stagnation. This is the
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possibility that Ross Douthit, if that's how you pronounce his name, I can never quite figure it out,
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explores in the Decadent Society, a book that just published a few months ago, which I would recommend.
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He argues that we're doomed, for a while at least, to drift along aimlessly in political and cultural
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stalemate, not collapsing catastrophically, but also not achieving or advancing in any particular
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direction. I tend to agree that this is what's happening and probably will continue happening,
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but I wouldn't choose it. It's not the best path, even if it's the most likely. The Bible says that
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Christ will spit the lukewarm out of his mouth. It's sort of horrifying to think that my children will
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inherit a lukewarm civilization sputtering along, not hot or cold, neither dead nor alive, heading
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neither toward ruin nor glory. Number two, other possibility, escalating violence and unrest.
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Recent events may point to this possibility. For a while, leftist radicals reigned terror in our
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cities unopposed, basically. Now they're being met with force. Could continue like this, getting
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bloodier and more brutal, never turning into a full-scale organized war, but causing untold death
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and damage all the same. And then number three, there could be unity. That's possible. But through
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submission. See, there's always the possibility that division will give way to unity. But this can't
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happen through compromise, as there is no middle ground between two diametrically opposed views of life
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and reality. I can't meet someone halfway when they argue in favor of giving hormones to physically
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healthy children or insist that it's automatically racist for white police officers to shoot violent
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black suspects. Where's the halfway point on those issues or any of the other ones that separate us?
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What's the halfway point between theism and atheistic nihilism? How do I compromise with a worldview that
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defines itself by its opposition to my own? It would seem that the only way to achieve unity
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would be for one side or the other to surrender. There's a great gulf between us and nowhere to meet
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within that gap. But one side could abandon its post and just join the other. The problem is that given our
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cultural trajectory and the thorough hold the left has on the youngest generations, I don't see them
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abandoning their post anytime soon. So if any side is going to give up the ghost in the coming decades, I have to
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admit that it's probably more likely to be the one that I'm on. And that's an option that I find
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infinitely more horrifying and undesirable than secession. These would seem to be the three
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possible doors that our civilization could open and walk through. Right now, we're sort of standing
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in the foyer, wavering between these options, getting a taste of all three. The fourth, the door
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to secession and national divorce is way off to the side, not being seriously considered by enough people
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to make it a plausible option at this point. But I firmly believe it would be for the best.
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America has never been a nation bonded together by one shared religion or ethnicity, but we did once
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share a creed, however imperfectly we lived by it. We no longer have that creed in common
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or really anything else in common. It's sad. It's not what I want, but it's the truth.
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And I wish that now we could all acknowledge it, go our separate ways once and for all.
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Well, anyway, now that I just explained why the country should divorce and break apart,
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let's get to it. I did want to mention something on a lighter note, totally unrelated, but I was just
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thinking about it because I was reading something on Twitter, someone lecturing truck drivers saying
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that truck drivers are, you know, there's no excuse to drive a truck and cars are getting so much bigger
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now and it's a big problem and we're destroying the environment. And I say they're lecturing truck
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drivers. I can say we truck drivers now because I bought my first pickup truck, which I was very
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excited about, last week. I just bought it. And something very strange has happened. Now, this was not
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cultural appropriation. I know I just moved to Tennessee and buying a pickup truck. It seems like
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cultural appropriation. It's not exactly. I mean, I always had in mind that I wanted one. We decided
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let's go ahead and get it. This very weird thing happened, though. And I'm not I'm not even making this
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up. This is really I can't explain it. It's like a scientific phenomenon. But I've always I've never
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been a fan of country music. I've always hated it, actually, just viscerally. But I got the pickup truck
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and now I've noticed that it sounds sort of good now in the truck. I'm actually find myself
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listening to country music. I don't know what it is. It's just that's the secret. You have to listen
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to it in a truck. And the only thing I do now, I guess, is the cowboy boots. All right, we're going
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to move on. Number one, Joe Biden gave a speech yesterday after the Electoral College vote.
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But the headline for me wasn't anything that he said. Rather, it was the way he struggled mightily
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to say it. Let's let's take a listen to that. Once again, the American America, the rule of law,
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more Americans voted this year and have ever voted in the history of the United States votes counted
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and a Pence received when they won in 2016. Excuse me. Or dispute the results margin four years ago.
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And yet I thank them. And I'm convinced we can work together for the good of the nation.
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On many subjects. That's the duty owed to the people, to our Constitution, to our history.
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You know, in this battle for the soul of America, democracy prevailed. We, the people, voted.
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Faith in our institutions held. The integrity of our elections remains intact.
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And now it's time to turn the page, as we've done throughout our history, to unite, to heal.
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As I said in this campaign, I will be president for all Americans. I'll work just as hard for those
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of you who didn't vote for me as I will for those who did. There's urgent work in front of us.
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And getting this pandemic under control and getting the nation vaccinated against this virus.
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Yeah, there is urgent work. I'm just wondering if he's going to be around for it.
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I mean, you could say it's unfair, something like that. I mean, maybe he has a cold or something.
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And anyone that has experienced public speaking, we've all been in that situation before where your
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voice is giving out. And it's not fun. But it does, obviously, it just brings to mind the concern
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that we've got this 78-year-old man who's already physically deteriorating and mentally deteriorating
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who's going to be in the White House. I guess now we just, you know, it's always been clear to me
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that there's no way we get to 2024 and Joe Biden is still in the White House as president. So it's
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just, I guess now it's just a question of how long will it be? My prediction is, this is what I would
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predict. You could take this to the bank. Actually don't, because my political predictions are pretty
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much always wrong. So don't listen to this at all, but I'm going to say it. My prediction would be
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that within about six, it'll take six months, not for Joe Biden to step down, but within six months,
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there will be very audible and public calls from people on the left that he should think about
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stepping down. I would say they're going to wait, because this is their plan all along, of course.
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This is inevitable, that they're going to at least make that call because they want to get
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Kamala Harris in there. I would say they'll probably wait six months and then the calls will start.
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How long will it be before Joe Biden actually does step to the side? I don't know, but it's really
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hard for me to see him making it all the way to 2024, the age of 82. As I've been saying all along,
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even if he wasn't just about to take on the most stressful job on earth and he was just retired,
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sitting in his rocking chair on the porch, I would still say, you know, I don't know if he's going to
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be with us in four years. But considering he's taking on the most stressful job and he's not
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going to be sitting on his porch in a rocking chair and he is going to have to come out of his
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basement, it just makes it all the more clear to me. So what happens? I guess we're going to discover
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this. If the president is completely incapacitated, are they going to tell us that?
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Um, how long before they tell us? I guess we'll find out. Number two, big news today about Pornhub.
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We've been following this story. Here's the article in The Verge. It says, Pornhub is removing all
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videos uploaded to its site by unverified users, millions of videos in total as part of a crackdown
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on user uploaded content after two major payment processors suspended service.
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Um, the decision first reported by Motherboard stems from a New York Times report that found
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the site was hosting videos of people who are underage and videos showing children being
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assaulted. Well, yeah, the New York Times found that, but, uh, that, that that's all, it's been
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known that this is, this is, it was not news. Um, that anyone has been paying attention. The site
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announced last Tuesday that it would begin limiting uploads to verified users only. Um, it appears
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that Pornhub has wiped out more than 10 million videos as of this writing. And I don't see the
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percentage here listed, but what I saw online was it was like 50 or 60% of the content has been wiped
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out, which is great. I mean, it's, it's progress. Now, again, I would, for me, what I would prefer
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to see happen or what I ultimately would like to see happen is that Pornhub is shut down and his
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executives are marched to prison and locked in cages and prison for the rest of their lives.
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That I think is the ultimate goal. Um, that's what I would love to see happen. That's, that's
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what should happen. I mean, when you, when you make billions monetizing child rape, I don't think
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you should be able to say, Oh my bad, sorry. And just start taking it down and then go about your
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merry way. And I don't think that's how it should happen. I think there should be real consequences
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for it. But, um, this is a step in the right direction. The only point here, like we talked about
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last week when we were discussing this issue is that Pornhub again is a multi-billion dollar
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porn aggregator, um, that has, that has monetized child rape and, and other forms of, of evil
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degeneracy. And that's how they've, they've made a living. That's how they've made their money,
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which means you can't trust them. So any, any amount of self-regulating, you can't trust it.
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The question now is, Oh, we're only going to allow it from verified users. Well, what does
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that mean? So they're making this big show of purging everything doing this after, remember
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last week, initially when the report came out, they said, Oh, there's no problem. What are you
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talking about? Everything's fine. You know, we're, we're, we're reviewing every video and we've got
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procedures in place. Now they're turning around and wiping out 10 million videos. Turns out that was a
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problem, which only goes to show you can't trust them. So, uh, verified users, what does that mean?
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From what I read, uh, website called fight the new drug, which is a, an anti-porn watchdog.
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What they say is that the process for getting verified on Pornhub, all that means is that you
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take a picture, you know, you write your name and your birth date, or maybe not even your birth date.
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I think you just write your name down on a piece of paper or somewhere on your body and you take a
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picture and you send it in. Okay. That's more than nothing, but it's not a lot more than nothing.
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And it seems to me that someone could still be underage and do that, or they could still go
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through that verification process and then upload a video that features an underage person or someone
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who's not consenting. So this is a step in the right direction. It's not as big a step as it seems.
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Uh, number three, here's a, another video that you both love and hate to see. You hate to see it
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because it's another business owner being persecuted by tyrannical bureaucrats. You love
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to see it because it's also another business owner refusing to take it lying down. Uh, we'll play a
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bit of this exchange. This is the owner of Nick, the Greek restaurant in, I believe, California dealing
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with the, a public health inspector who's come to the business to further harass and extort him.
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I am fully able to know if my tables are inside. Just because the health department has a whole
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process to go through that takes however long that takes, I have to close my business for that time.
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Who's, are you going to pay my rent? Are you going to pay my rent?
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I chose to protest by putting my tables outside and by reiterating the debt. I never served one
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single person outside. I did all take out food and delivery to what exactly I was supposed to be
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doing. That's exactly what I did. I did not break any, and the disability in the law, I did not break any rule.
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There, there is a law that you're breaking right now by operating without a permit.
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I, because you guys put this closure on the restaurant, right? So you, you guys yourselves
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are creating your own rule and you're getting my citation for your own rule that's created.
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It's not by law that you cannot sit outside and eat. That's not law. That's the order that was given.
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That, that exchange, uh, you can go online and find it. That exchange goes on for a while.
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That's just a part of it there. And every bit of pushback and anger that he is,
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is directing towards these people is deserved. And I, I've seen some, some people online,
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I guess, trying to be, uh, trying to be gracious. I think far too gracious saying, well,
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uh, you know, these public health inspectors, you know, they're doing their job and maybe they don't
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want to be doing it either. And they're, you know, it's, it's not up to them. They're just enforcing
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the rules. Um, no, this is, this is a, you know, I was following orders kind of excuse. Uh,
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these people, these bureaucrats showing up to these businesses, I don't care if they're following
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orders or not. I don't care if they set the rules or not. Um, that's no excuse. And they deserve
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every bit of derision and hatred and everything that they, that they get contempt that's directed
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at them. Because you're at a point right now where if, if this, if this is your job, then you need to
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step down and say, I'm not going to do this job. No, it's not an easy thing to do. It's easy for me
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to say, but that's the right choice. When you're in a job and someone tells you, okay, go to this
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business owner and, uh, you know, harass them for just trying to conduct their business. Go, in fact,
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go into this business and try to find something they're doing wrong so that you can find them.
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Um, even when they're already in the midst of a financial crisis, because that's what these
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people are doing. They're just going in looking for a problem. That's when, if you're a decent,
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good person, that's when you say, uh, no, you can take this job and shove it. Cause I'm not going to
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do it. All right. Um, number four, Deborah Messing is an actress. She got herself in the hot water when
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she said that she, she hopes Trump goes to prison and becomes quote, the most popular boyfriend in
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prison. And this, this got her into hot water because now only, only because it's homophobic
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allegedly to say that, um, she wasn't in hot water for, you know, wishing this on the president. It
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was just the comment that she made. People were saying, even some people on the left were saying
00:23:10.740
that's homophobic. Uh, well to, to combat this claim that she's anti-gay, she posted a clarification
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and it may be one of the strangest clarifications in history. I don't know. Here's what she says.
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Let me be clear. I said nothing about the LGBTQI slash queer love, right? Wait, hold on. I said
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nothing about LGBTQI slash queer love. Okay. Rape is an act of violence. Trump has perpetrated violence
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on hundreds of millions of people. My hope is, and this is the first time in my life that the
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tables are turned and he is the victim of perpetrators. Hashtag LGBTQI ally. So here's
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what she's saying. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, guys, you misunderstood me. Oh, you thought I said
00:24:00.720
something offensive. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I, I was only saying, I hope the president is
00:24:04.900
raped. That's all I was trying to say. That's it. Uh, and I like how she clarifies, this is the first
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time. This is the first time in my life I've ever wished rape on someone. This is, this is my first
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time. All right. We all, we all, we all, we all wish it sometimes on people. This is my first time.
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She really, and she thinks that that's, that's enough. Like she, she really doesn't understand.
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This is, this is a lot of people on the left. They, they really don't see the problem. Like she,
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she's actually surprised that people have a problem with it. She can't understand.
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She's saying, what, I'm just, I'm just wishing violence and sexual violation on my political
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enemies. What do you mean? These people aren't even, they're not even people. Of course I can do that.
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And that's how they see, that's how they see not only Trump, but, uh, but all conservatives.
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controversy and outrage surrounding alleged mistreatment of inmates at the Allegheny
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County jail in Pennsylvania. Uh, one inmate had a video call with his aunt. And I guess
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this is something you can do in jail. Now you can have video calls news to me, but, uh, he had a
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video call with his aunt and he showed what he'd been served for dinner and he requested that she
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make it go viral. And she did. And it's, uh, being a, been a big controversy, especially in Pennsylvania.
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This is the dinner that they serving us in the jail tonight, which is baloney with applesauce
00:25:31.160
in it and Teddy grams. That's the only thing that's on our trade for dinner tonight. No juice,
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no vegetables, no fruit, no nothing. I want you to make this go viral onto you. You hear me?
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This is our dinner right here. Make sure you take a picture too. Send it, send it out and put it on
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all over social media, put it all over the internet. This is our dinner for the night.
00:25:50.340
They're not giving us our fruits and vegetables. They're not giving us our protein or anything.
00:25:53.980
This is warm baloney right here in applesauce with a little pack of Teddy grams. That's our
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trade for dinner tonight. But they're telling us to deal with it or eat. That's what they're
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telling us tonight. All right. And I want you to see this. I want you to send it out on a mass email,
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whatever you got to do, get it all on social media, to the news and everybody.
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Um, first, can I, can I just say, and not that that would be a dinner that I would personally enjoy.
00:26:21.520
Um, I'm also not in prison, you know, I'm not in jail, so I didn't get arrested. So I, I'm,
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I'm able to go and buy what I wanted for dinner. Uh, I mean, you're, you're not an outback steakhouse
00:26:32.740
here. You're, you're in jail, uh, which is, which is, you know, at least one step below an outback
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steakhouse. Uh, but he says, we're not getting our fruits and protein. What do you mean? You got
00:26:42.480
applesauce and you got, you got baloney. That's, that's a fruit and protein. I don't really understand
00:26:47.880
the applesauce in the bologna. That part of it, it seemed almost like it was like a, it was like a,
00:26:52.880
a bologna burrito with apples, like bologna wrapped around applesauce. I don't know if he did that
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himself or if that's what they serve. That part of it, I'll admit is strange, but the rest of it,
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my kids would go wild. If my kids were in jail and they got that meal, they would say,
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canceling those who are trying to cancel me for my take on the Cleveland Indians who announced that
00:31:04.100
they'll be changing their name because the name Indians is offensive somehow to Indians.
00:31:08.100
Incidentally, the Cleveland Browns lost last night to the Baltimore Ravens on a 55 year old
00:31:14.000
yard field goal in the final seconds of the game after Lamar Jackson, the Baltimore Ravens quarterback
00:31:18.460
had run back onto the field after missing half of the fourth quarter with cramps that some say
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was probably code for. He had to use the bathroom. Anyway, my point is that I like to think the sports
00:31:27.220
gods were punishing the city of Cleveland for its cowardice. Um, not that the city of Cleveland really
00:31:31.960
needs to be punished when it comes to sports anymore than it already has been over the last several
00:31:35.120
decades. In any case, the Indians will not be the Indians anymore. Uh, this news has been celebrated
00:31:41.060
by those on the left to assure us that the native American community never feels more seen and
00:31:46.680
understood and respected than when all mention of the native American community is removed from
00:31:51.060
popular culture. Indeed, TMZ reports today that native American leaders expect that the suicide rate
00:31:57.000
in that community is going to go down because the Cleveland baseball team has chosen a different
00:32:02.060
mascot. I'm not making that up. That is really what is being claimed that it's going to lower the
00:32:07.020
suicide rate. I briefly mentioned this story about the Cleveland baseball team on the show yesterday.
00:32:12.420
I also mentioned it briefly on Twitter in both forums. I argued as I have in the past that
00:32:17.180
having a team name and a mascot based around native Americans is no more or less offensive than having
00:32:24.040
one based on any other group, namely the Irish, the Boston Celtics, for example, are called the Boston
00:32:29.580
Boston Celtics and their mascot is a leprechaun. The fighting Irish of Notre Dame also have a
00:32:33.900
leprechaun mascot. Only theirs is a bit more ornery. This is the point that I posted on Twitter. I said,
00:32:39.840
uh, quote, quoting myself, I have never heard anyone ever complain about the Boston Celtics and their
00:32:44.200
stereotypical mascot. If Cleveland Indian is offensive, then so is this, but this isn't offensive
00:32:48.900
to anyone with a brain and a shred of emotional maturity. And neither is Cleveland Indian.
00:32:53.280
Now I must admit, I do deserve to be canceled for this tweet only because of the typo on then I
00:33:01.340
spelled it T H A N instead of T H E N. Normally I have a policy of deleting all typo tweets, but I
00:33:07.660
couldn't delete this one because leftists were mad at it for another reason. So I had to choose
00:33:12.080
between preserving my dignity and deleting it because of the typo or keeping the tweet up in service of
00:33:17.240
triggering the libs. As George Washington once said, when given a choice between triggering the libs
00:33:22.400
or not triggering them, always trigger them. But much of the outrage, derision, mockery,
00:33:28.000
et cetera, directed at me is not over the typo as it should be, but over the point that I'm making.
00:33:33.220
A great many media people, especially sports media have responded saying just to summarize here,
00:33:37.820
basically they say, Oh, you idiot. That's, that's not the same. Besides leprechauns are fictional
00:33:42.300
characters. Didn't you know that? What do you think the Boston Celtics is offensive to leprechauns?
00:33:48.100
Yes. Got him. Yes. Leprechauns are fictional characters. Okay. Then so you're saying that you're
00:33:57.000
saying that's okay. So what you're telling me is that it's okay to make a team name out of an ethnic
00:34:01.940
group. As long as the mascot is a make-believe creature associated with the traditions and
00:34:07.820
mythologies of that group. That's what you want to go with. Okay. Well then here's my proposal.
00:34:13.760
Let's keep them the Cleveland Indians and make their mascot a character from Native American
00:34:19.020
folklore. The Lakota, for example, believed in forest spirits who were like magical dwarves living
00:34:25.380
in the trees. Canotelia, they called them. Probably mispronounced it. Is that better? Make them the
00:34:32.660
Indians, but with the magical dwarf as the mascot, sort of like a leprechaun. How's that sound? Would that
00:34:38.360
be okay? Oh no, no, that wouldn't be. In fact, that would be even worse, wouldn't it? You'd say
00:34:44.380
it's still a problem because the name is still Indians. And now we've appropriated their cultural
00:34:49.020
mythology and turned it into a mascot, made a joke of it. I've also been told that the fighting Irish
00:34:54.980
and the Celtics are not offensive because those team names are based on the predominant ethnicity
00:34:59.720
of their fan base, at least historically, right? A lot of Irish people in Boston. Okay. So that's
00:35:06.180
the rule now. A basketball team can make a group race or ethnicity into a mascot as long as it's a
00:35:12.720
race or ethnicity common in their fan base. Something tells me this logic would get a sports
00:35:18.500
organization into a lot of trouble if they tried to apply it to virtually anyone but the Irish.
00:35:24.280
The other excuse I've heard is that it's different because Native Americans are historically
00:35:27.760
persecuted group. Unlike the Irish, who famously have had an enormously easy ride all through history,
00:35:34.260
right? No, of course not. The Irish have been persecuted too, in this country and their own.
00:35:40.260
So that excuse doesn't wash either. See, when you sift through all of the arguments for why it's
00:35:46.020
offensive to make Indians into a team name or a mascot, but not the Irish, you begin to quickly
00:35:52.640
realize that all the arguments are utter hogwash, as the kids would say. Whatever tortured logic makes
00:35:59.800
Indians or Braves offensive must also apply to drunken leprechaun mascots to represent teams with
00:36:06.840
Irish and Celtic in their name. And those on the left, here's the thing, they could quite easily make
00:36:13.260
their point, achieve their desired end, if they simply said, yeah, you're right, that's offensive too,
00:36:18.680
let's get rid of that also. But they won't say that. They can't say that. Because that would be to
00:36:25.420
admit that non-white groups shouldn't get any special consideration, nor do they corner the market
00:36:32.360
on persecution, nor should we have more respect for them than we do any other group. It would be to,
00:36:39.460
it would be, in other words, to treat all groups equally, which is the last thing that anybody on the
00:36:45.120
left wants to do. But they won't admit that, so they're stuck trying to find differences where
00:36:50.340
none exist and ignore them where they do. For that reason, they are canceled. Not me. I'm only
00:36:57.780
partially canceled for the typo thing, but I'm right about the mascot thing, and let's focus on what
00:37:03.000
I'm right about today and always. And that's going to do it for our show today. Thanks for watching,
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