The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 623 - First They Came For Lee, Now They Come For Lincoln

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, now they're coming for Abraham Lincoln. After Thomas Jefferson's

00:00:04.380 name was taken off of a school in Virginia last week, now Abraham Lincoln High School in California

00:00:09.100 is getting a name change. The purge of our history continues and it began with the attack

00:00:14.420 on Confederate statues. Lots of people who went along with that are now appalled by the results

00:00:18.980 of really their own actions. We'll talk about that today. Also, five headlines including news

00:00:23.380 from a doctor on MSNBC that even if you get a vaccine, you still can't travel or live your

00:00:28.340 normal life. A famous evangelist claims that Trumpism is the greatest threat facing the

00:00:34.380 church today. Trumpism is. Plus, your daily cancellation and much more today on the Matt

00:00:38.940 Wall Show. Well, as we get to the end of the year, I'm surveying the list of my reading goal for the

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00:02:14.100 That's thinker.org. All right. And as you can see, if you're watching, I have my leftist tears

00:02:20.320 tumbler here with my sloth tea infuser. I'm told that's what it is. You can go to Instagram and

00:02:26.980 see the videos. They're giving me gifts. I guess they keep giving me gifts until they find one that

00:02:31.560 I like, but I feel like you're not trying that hard if a sloth tea infuser is your idea of something 1.00

00:02:37.200 that I would like. Although it is, you know, I could get used to it. I kind of like having it here

00:02:42.580 as my buddy on the desk. Now, it's been frustrating enough, you know, to watch people on the right for

00:02:47.560 so many years go along with the left's cultural agenda, ceding ground, making compromise after

00:02:53.440 compromise. Compromises that always seem to involve the left getting what it wants and us

00:02:57.360 getting nothing. That's usually what the compromise is. That's not a compromise at all, by the way,

00:03:00.580 that's surrender. But what makes the spectacle unbearable really is when those same people on the

00:03:06.020 right act surprised, shocked, appalled by the results of their own cowardice. We've been seeing

00:03:12.420 quite a bit of this sort of thing in recent days, first with the announcement that a school district

00:03:16.340 in Virginia would be taking Thomas Jefferson's name off of their elementary school because he

00:03:21.460 owned slaves. And now with the news, latest news, that San Francisco will be renaming its Abraham

00:03:27.680 Lincoln High School, though Abraham Lincoln, quite famously, did not own slaves. He did not own slaves,

00:03:33.860 but he did commit other moral crimes that now prohibit him from having a school named after him.

00:03:38.640 The Daily Mail has the report. It says, quote, the district's renaming committee

00:03:42.340 decided Lincoln is not worthy of keeping his name in Abraham Lincoln High School because, quote,

00:03:46.740 the majority of his policies proved to be detrimental to Native Americans. Abraham Lincoln is not seen as

00:03:51.960 much of a hero at all among the American Indian nations and Native peoples of the United States

00:03:56.560 as the majority of his policies proved to be detrimental to them. The committee, the committee

00:04:01.680 meeting notes state under his watch, indigenous peoples had much of their land taken away from them.

00:04:07.320 In 1862, the Homestead Act, where citizens could claim ownership of 160 acres of land and the

00:04:14.100 Pacific Railway Act, which gave railroad companies permission to build a transcontinental railroad

00:04:18.960 across the America, quote, led to the significant loss of land and natural resources, as well as the

00:04:23.960 loss of lifestyle and culture for many indigenous peoples. Jeremiah Jeffries, chairman of the renaming

00:04:30.840 committee and a first grade teacher, told the San Francisco Chronicle, quote, Lincoln, like the

00:04:36.240 presidents before him and most after did not show through policy or rhetoric that black lives ever

00:04:42.000 mattered to them outside of human capital and as casualties of wealth building. So they can't get

00:04:48.540 Lincoln on the slavery issue. Instead, they get him on Native Americans. And it's true that Native 1.00

00:04:52.740 Americans had a rough time of it under Lincoln. It's true that once Europeans arrived in the new world 1.00

00:04:57.700 500 years ago, a process began which would eventually lead to most Native Americans being driven from their

00:05:03.420 land. A great many would die, though the majority of those would die through disease unknowingly brought

00:05:08.040 here by the settlers. All of that is true. It's also true that the European and then American conquest 0.82

00:05:14.240 of the new world occurred at a time in history when all lines were drawn and nations established and

00:05:20.280 areas settled and claimed through conquest. This was the rule across the globe everywhere, among everyone

00:05:27.080 for thousands of years with no exceptions. If you wanted land, you had to take it. If you wanted to

00:05:33.460 keep what you already took, you had to defend it. If you couldn't defend it, you would lose it.

00:05:38.420 That was the way of the world for most of human history. And it was especially the way among Native 1.00

00:05:43.160 Americans themselves who were in a constant state of war with each other, other tribes, fighting and

00:05:48.040 killing and enslaving each other, stealing land, then having it stolen from them. Then the Europeans showed up 1.00

00:05:53.340 and played the same game of conquest and won. Now, somehow, after thousands of years of fighting and

00:05:59.680 bloodshed across the globe, the descendants of those Europeans who also happened to establish the greatest 1.00

00:06:04.500 civilization the world's ever seen are supposed to be the only ones racked with guilt, constantly

00:06:10.180 apologizing and tearing down our monuments and reparation. It's ridiculous. But not according to 0.92

00:06:16.640 Jeremiah Jeffries, chairman of the renaming committee. He's decided that Lincoln didn't do enough for black

00:06:22.280 lives, as he put it. Of course, Lincoln did more than Jeremiah Jeffries has done or could do in a

00:06:29.600 thousand lifetimes. Lincoln was a man of consequence, a history maker, world shaper. Jeremiah Jeffries,

00:06:36.960 in contrast, is mediocre, vacuous. And we live in a time when lots of mediocre, vacuous people are 0.95

00:06:43.880 deciding that the great men of history don't live up to their own standards. They're like morbidly obese 0.98

00:06:50.640 gluttons laying on the couch, eating Cheetos, watching a bodybuilding competition, and complaining 1.00

00:06:56.400 that the competitors are a little too flabby. But, and here's the point, this is not happening out of

00:07:02.600 nowhere or in a vacuum. We can draw a direct clear line from the tearing down of Confederate monuments

00:07:08.500 and the renaming of street schools and military installations to this attack on Abraham Lincoln or

00:07:13.560 Jefferson or Washington. In fact, some of us said years ago when this began, myself included, that it

00:07:21.640 would lead to this very point, that the exact logic used to posthumously condemn Robert E. Lee could just

00:07:28.680 as well be applied to Lincoln or to anyone else in history. And we were told, even by conservatives,

00:07:34.760 that such a slippery slope argument is a fallacy. And there's no reason why the historical purge has to

00:07:41.480 go beyond Confederates. No, it'll stop right here, we were told. Well, it didn't. We were right. 1.00

00:07:49.420 And we're right about this too. It's not over. It doesn't end here. It will never end. Not until

00:07:54.480 every single hero of American history, of Western history, has been tried from the grave and condemned

00:08:00.300 as a racist and a villain. None are safe. Certainly none of the white males, though I would predict that

00:08:05.680 eventually, you know, they're going to get around to men like Martin Luther King Jr.

00:08:09.100 for his behavior with women. Eventually they get around to everyone because all people who existed

00:08:16.480 prior to about 10 years ago were problematic and had problematic views, according to the standards

00:08:22.760 of the modern left. Meanwhile, in Mongolia, they have statues to Genghis Khan and honor him as a hero.

00:08:30.620 He caused the deaths of 40 million people, 40 million, in the 13th century. And he wasn't using

00:08:38.820 guns and bombs. There are 16 million men alive today related to Genghis Khan, largely because he was

00:08:46.040 such a prolific rapist. So a mass murderer and a serial rapist. And yet nobody in Mongolia thinks 0.99

00:08:53.840 of tearing down a statue, nor are they terribly torn up and guilt-ridden by the actions of their hero

00:08:59.340 700 years ago. Now, you could argue that they take it too far in the other direction. Genghis Khan was,

00:09:04.900 after all, one of the most evil men of history comparable to Hitler and Pol Pot and people in 0.99

00:09:09.440 that tier. But I think the Mongolians are more correct in their approach to their historical 0.74

00:09:14.620 heroes than we are right now in our approach to ours. It is better to honor problematic historical

00:09:20.700 figures than to honor no historical figures. At least there's a humility in recognizing the

00:09:27.700 achievements of your ancestors. At least there's a gratitude in appreciating what they did to form the

00:09:33.060 civilization in which you live. I would take that over having no gratitude, no appreciation,

00:09:38.700 no acknowledgement. Look, it's long past time to choose a side on this. You're either with the woke

00:09:47.580 mob tearing down our history or you're against them. You can't be with them on some things and

00:09:52.600 against them on others. You can't say, well, I'll pick up the pitchfork and call for this statue to be

00:09:57.220 torn down. But then that's going to be it. No, the woke mob must be opposed on principle

00:10:02.660 in everything. Even if you would otherwise agree with them about something, even if there's a statue

00:10:08.640 you also don't like, and they're saying tearing, tear it down. You should say, well, I don't like the

00:10:14.600 statue either, but since you maniacs are trying to pull it down, I say, keep it and build another

00:10:18.800 bigger one and put it right next to that one. That is the only way to deal with these people.

00:10:24.280 There is no other way to give them nothing. Nothing. Give them nothing. That's the only way.

00:10:33.140 And now the very latest development, Andrew Cuomo, this is breaking news today, will be signing a

00:10:38.360 bill to outlaw the sale of Confederate flags, to outlaw the sale of Confederate flags in New York,

00:10:43.040 which is outrageously unconstitutional, of course. I mean, it doesn't even come close

00:10:47.260 to approaching the realm of constitutional. It's also pointless as New York is not exactly known as a

00:10:53.140 bastion of Confederate sympathizers. But if any mention of the Confederacy is so traumatizing to

00:10:59.100 the sensitive souls walking around today that we have to take down the statues and remove the names,

00:11:03.120 then sure, why not ban the flags too? To wave the flag itself is a hate crime, an act of violence.

00:11:10.240 That's the logic. It's bad logic. It's indefensible. It's appalling. It's stupid.

00:11:15.880 But it's where we are. And we have the cowardice and short-sightedness of many conservatives to thank 1.00

00:11:23.000 for it. Now let's get to our five headlines. Before we get to our five headlines today, you know,

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00:13:02.720 4hims.com slash Matt. By the way, Ben Shapiro on his show today is going to be, is going

00:13:08.760 to have more about this Lincoln situation. Also, I'll be joining to, to talk about it as

00:13:13.840 well. So you can tune in for that. And I just saw this now, this is not one of our headlines,

00:13:19.260 but I'm just sort of tacking it on to the, to the front here. But I want you to look at

00:13:23.340 this headline from the website Queer Tea. Uh, it says, let's see, it says Pete Buttigieg makes history

00:13:32.060 as first out cabinet member. He was nominated as a transportation secretary for unclear reasons.

00:13:38.420 I'm not sure that he has any, I don't know what expertise he has in the realm of transportation,

00:13:42.440 but, uh, they were, you know, they, they, they wanted to give him a cabinet kind of a, you know,

00:13:46.640 it's, it's a runner up sort of prize that they give. And so they said, Oh, we'll make him

00:13:49.680 transportation secretary. So that's, that's the headline, right? Pete Buttigieg makes history

00:13:54.700 his first, uh, gay out cabinet member. Then here's another headline though, also from Queer Tea. 0.56

00:14:00.720 And this is from not even a year ago. This is from February of 2020. It says Trump makes Richard

00:14:06.460 Grinnell first openly gay cabinet secretary in history. Again, this is the same publication

00:14:12.040 within a year. First claiming that Richard Grinnell is the, is the first gay cabinet, uh, official. 0.59

00:14:18.720 And now they're saying, I don't know, actually it's, it's Buttigieg. He's the first gay one. 1.00

00:14:24.480 How do you make sense of that? It's, it's, we talk about erasing history. Okay. They don't need

00:14:30.200 to go back 150 years to erase history. They're going to erase history that happened like 10 months ago

00:14:34.700 and just pretend that that, yeah, we're going to pretend that it didn't happen.

00:14:39.900 Yeah. Pete Buttigieg is the first, second gay cabinet official. He's the first one to be the second 1.00

00:14:46.600 one. And I would even say, and you know, this is credit to him. He's probably going to be the only

00:14:51.320 second one. There will never be another second gay cabinet official. So give him credit for that. 1.00

00:14:58.780 Or you could even say, I mean, he is the probably right. The first openly gay cabinet official in the 0.99

00:15:05.340 department of transportation, which is probably the most boring political milestone in history,

00:15:12.040 which is itself another milestone. So why don't we just go with that? That, that, that should be

00:15:18.100 the headline. Pete Buttigieg lays claim to most boring, uh, political milestone in history. That's

00:15:24.580 an accomplishment. All right. Number one, vaccines are now being administered with Trump having made

00:15:30.000 good on his promise to, uh, have a vaccine available by the end of the year. Many in the media mocked

00:15:34.700 Trump for saying that and have of course not apologized or admitted that they were wrong. Instead,

00:15:40.260 they've moved on to explaining why, well, okay, yeah, he did get the vaccine to us, but, uh, actually

00:15:46.000 the vaccine's basically pointless because even after you take it, you still can't resume your normal

00:15:49.900 life. Here's a doctor and pandemic consultant, quote unquote, on MSNBC explaining watch. Uh, tomorrow

00:15:57.520 morning and I'm, and I'm grateful for it. Um, Chuck, I just wanted to say, uh, just a follow-up on what

00:16:03.100 Yasmin mentioned, uh, just for your viewers out there. Um, I know one of the individuals who we just saw

00:16:09.620 getting vaccinated is planning on traveling after the second dose. I, I, this is a source of confusion,

00:16:15.020 but no, uh, this is one of the misperceptions here. Just cause you get vaccinated with that

00:16:19.840 second dose does not mean you should be participating in things like traveling in the

00:16:24.940 middle of an out of control pandemic or that you're liberated from masks. Everything still applies

00:16:30.100 until all of us get the two dose regimen. And we don't think that's going to happen until June,

00:16:35.260 July. But, and again, this goes back to what we just talked about, Chuck. We don't know if

00:16:39.860 just getting the vaccination prevents serious illness, or does it also prevent you from getting

00:16:44.880 infection, um, entirely, meaning you can still get infected with the virus potentially and pass

00:16:50.260 it on to others. So really, really critical. Don't let your guard down just cause you got

00:16:55.280 vaccinated. You still might be able to get infected with the virus and pass on others. So please keep

00:17:00.280 that in mind. Okay. So the, so according to him, the vaccine is meaningless, pointless, doesn't do

00:17:08.100 anything. According to him, that's, that's, that appears to be what he's saying. Well, yeah, it's,

00:17:14.060 it's a source of confusion. Oh, oh, you were confused. You thought the vaccine did something.

00:17:18.400 No, no, no, no, no, no. You still, everything goes on exactly how it has, how it has been,

00:17:22.120 even after you get the vaccine until we all get it. Well, why is that? Is this like what I tell my

00:17:27.380 kids where, you know, nobody's allowed to leave the table until everybody's finished eating?

00:17:32.320 No, that to me is just a matter of courtesy and good etiquette. So is that, is that what we're

00:17:36.940 doing here? Well, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be courteous. It'd be bad etiquette. If you get the

00:17:41.120 vaccine and then you start running around without a mask and you get to go on a vacation, makes

00:17:44.160 everyone feel bad. And so you shouldn't do that until everyone else could do it too. Is that what

00:17:47.860 they're telling us? I would prefer that logic over what it appears that he's saying, which is that

00:17:53.140 yeah, even if you, after you get the vaccine, there's still a chance you could get it. There's

00:17:57.280 a chance. All right. Well, if, if that's the logic, then the lockdowns never end and masking never ends

00:18:06.360 because there's always going to be a chance. Even after everybody gets the vaccine, even if every

00:18:11.120 man, woman and child in America gets a vaccine, still there's going to be a chance, right? There's

00:18:15.020 always a chance. There's a chance you could get any disease that you get vaccinated for. There's always

00:18:20.400 a chance. The flu, there's a chance you'd get a really bad case of the flu, even if, even after

00:18:26.620 you get the flu shot. So if that's all it is, if it's just, well, there's still a chance.

00:18:34.080 As long as there's a chance, it means you can't resume your normal life. Okay. Well,

00:18:37.240 that means we will never resume our normal lives. Number two, staying on COVID for another moment

00:18:43.700 here. A video went viral yesterday of a man in extremely short shorts chasing and berating a

00:18:50.200 woman in a store, uh, because she wasn't wearing a mask. We've seen this kind of thing before, 1.00

00:18:54.740 but this is more aggressive. Um, this is a man who is more aggressive and certainly is showing more

00:19:01.120 of his leg than we've seen before and would like to see. But, uh, here it is. Watch.

00:19:06.760 Put your mask on. I'm sorry. You can walk away from me right now, sir.

00:19:11.000 Put your mask on. Get away from me. Put it on. Does it bother anybody else that she doesn't have to

00:19:15.180 wear a mask that we all do? Just go away. Stay six feet away from me then. No. Get away from me.

00:19:19.900 No. Yeah. Please get away from me right now. No. You don't need to come near me. She has it on

00:19:27.080 her damn hand. Get away from me. 1.00

00:19:31.800 Walk away from me, sir. Please get away from me.

00:19:39.440 You don't care. Leave me alone. 0.94

00:19:41.500 Leave me alone. She put, she can't, she can't get away from me then. 0.66

00:19:45.140 She cannot infect my baby.

00:19:47.080 Get out of here.

00:19:50.780 I know who you voted for.

00:19:53.700 I know who you voted for. Um, I hadn't seen the end of that video. I like that.

00:19:58.260 I think we all, I think we all know who that guy voted for. And the first thing that comes to mind

00:20:02.580 for me again is just, and I know this isn't really the headline, but does he not have anyone

00:20:07.420 in his life that, that loves him and cares about him and saw him leaving the house in those shorts

00:20:12.300 and said, Hey, Whoa, no, no, no, no, no, no. And the whole get up the, the shirt, if you're just

00:20:19.720 listening to this, by the way, if you're listening to this and you didn't see the video, um, you have

00:20:25.840 an image in your head of what that guy probably looks like. That's exactly it. The image you have

00:20:30.200 in your head that you've drawn in your head of that man, you're right. That is exactly what you

00:20:34.540 think. And really that's just no man at all. I call him a man only loosely, only in a strictly

00:20:40.480 biological sense, assuming, you know, if I could his biology, but in every other sense, that is no

00:20:47.520 man at all. Speaking to a woman that way, first of all, wearing those shorts and that shirt 1.00

00:20:51.760 and just being a coward. This is what I talk about all the time. Now that this normalization of, 0.97

00:20:58.340 of cowardice is someone so afraid. Oh, you're going to get me sick. Put a mask on. You're

00:21:05.400 going to get me sick. I'm scared. I'm scared of my short shorts. You should be the one covering up.

00:21:14.140 I'd much rather be in a, in a, in a building with a hundred people without masks on than a hundred

00:21:19.320 guys like that wearing those shorts. Uh, there's another, so there's, there's a comparison being

00:21:26.740 drawn here. I'm not sure if the comparison is fair, but there's another video, uh, really audio

00:21:30.620 that's, that's gone viral yesterday. This one of, uh, Tom Cruise and on the set of the latest

00:21:37.760 mission impossible. I think they're on mission impossible 52 now. And he's berating some of the

00:21:42.740 people, some of the workers on set for, uh, not following the COVID guidelines. And he makes his

00:21:49.320 opinion known loud and clear. Here it is. Listen,

00:21:51.580 They're back here in Hollywood making movies right now because of us, because they believe

00:21:58.520 in us and what we're doing. I'm on the phone with every studio at night, insurance companies,

00:22:07.220 producers, and they're looking at us and using us to make their movies. We are creating thousands

00:22:15.380 of jobs. I don't ever want to see it again. Ever. And if you don't do it, you're fired.

00:22:25.600 And I see you do it again. You're gone. And anyone on this crew does it. That's it. And you

00:22:33.160 don't ever do it again. That's it. No apologies. You can tell it to the people that are losing

00:22:48.440 their home because our industry is shut down. It's not going to put food on their table or

00:22:55.540 pay for the college education. That's what I sleep with every night.

00:23:04.800 Yeah. I'm not really, I'm not sure. I didn't, I didn't get a pulse on, on how people are reacting

00:23:09.260 to that. I actually, I don't hate it. I don't really care one way or another, to be honest

00:23:14.940 about Tom Cruise yelling. I thought I'd play it anyway, but if I had, if I had to make a judgment

00:23:20.380 call, I don't, I don't hate that. I don't, I don't hate it nearly as much as I hate the guy

00:23:23.860 in the, uh, in the store because Tom Cruise, you know, he's basically, these are his employees.

00:23:30.400 He's a producer of the film and they have strict guidelines. They have to follow. Otherwise

00:23:35.300 the movie gets shut down. Lots of people lose their jobs. And so he needs people just to do

00:23:39.840 it and play the game so we can keep, you know, so we can keep the, keep it going. Um, so that

00:23:45.140 to me is different from just some random dude in short shorts at the, at the grocery store,

00:23:50.920 chasing a woman down for not wearing me. He's got no authority.

00:23:53.860 I say the same thing about, you know, if I'm, if I'm out in public and someone, and this has

00:23:59.940 happened to me, I mentioned it before. And someone comes up to me and says, why aren't

00:24:02.100 you wearing a mask? Just some random schmo walking down the street. I'm not going to pay 1.00

00:24:05.100 any attention to them. Now, if I walk into a store and an employee or manager there says,

00:24:09.980 we need you to wear the mask. I don't like it. I'll respect that because you have the authority

00:24:14.940 to tell me that in your establishment, I can always leave. Um, so I, I, I, I'm going to say,

00:24:22.680 I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to say Tom Cruise is not canceled over that one.

00:24:26.680 The guy in the short shorts is. All right. Let's go to number three, lengthy New York

00:24:31.040 times article published yesterday, getting a lot of reaction. And I'll be honest with

00:24:36.340 you. I didn't even read it. Um, as I feel like I didn't need to, but the headline is how

00:24:42.620 the journalist Jeffrey Toobin went from respected New Yorker writer to hashtag punchline and subject

00:24:48.160 of debate. The reason I didn't read it is because I think I know, um, masturbating in front of his 0.98

00:24:54.620 coworkers. That's how it happened. That's a, you know, that, that is a one way ticket to being a 0.92

00:25:01.320 punchline and a hashtag. And really there's no, what is there to debate? That's what he did.

00:25:07.560 It is interesting though, to see though, not surprising in the media, this attempted rehabilitation

00:25:11.940 of Jeffrey Toobin, considering all the people that these folks in the media have tried to destroy,

00:25:18.980 you know, going back even to Nick Sandman, a kid in a, in a hat standing outside, smiling at a

00:25:26.440 Native American drumming in his face. Oh, we're going to try to destroy him, but Jeffrey Toobin, 0.93

00:25:31.840 let's try to rehabilitate him. Let's just remember that with, with Jeffrey Toobin,

00:25:36.760 it's not as though he was in the privacy of his own home and just on his own. And then someone like

00:25:45.180 hacked into his webcam and got a video of this and then posted it or something. If that happened,

00:25:51.740 then I would say he's a victim here. That's not what happened. He was on, he was in a meeting.

00:25:58.780 He was in a meeting with his coworkers and decided to drop his pants and get to work.

00:26:06.760 It's entirely different. You do something like that. Yeah. You deserve to be fired.

00:26:11.920 And of course, you're going to be a punchline. How else are we supposed to respond to that? 0.93

00:26:18.740 And I, it still has not become entirely clear to me because I, I, the people defending Jeffrey

00:26:24.460 Toobin, I don't think any of them have defended Louis CK. They, these guys to me did basically the

00:26:32.100 same thing. So I'm not sure I see the difference other than Louis CK guy, I guess, got consent

00:26:37.980 before he did it. So arguably he's not as bad as Jeffrey Toobin. All right, let's go to a number

00:26:43.940 four here. I regret to inform you. They are dancing again. They're back at it. The nurses

00:26:49.580 are dancing again on Tik TOK. Here's the latest video. This is from yesterday. I think it's a hospital

00:26:55.400 in New York though. Oh no, it's Boston says right there. Okay. Hospital in Boston, Boston

00:26:59.860 medical center. And, uh, they're doing a little choreographed dance routine. Let's, uh, let's

00:27:05.320 watch that. Okay. We can see that they've got, okay. Now this is the real choreographed move

00:27:12.620 here. Look at this guy in the blue suit, very blue suit. He's really into it. Guys in the background,

00:27:18.440 not so much. The reason why they're dancing is that they're celebrating the vaccine.

00:27:28.260 And so they're outside dancing. This really does remind me of what I've read about, um,

00:27:33.860 like with the black plague in Europe. And you know, if you, if you read, go on Wikipedia,

00:27:39.420 uh, doctors used to gather in the town square and do synchronized dance routines. And there's

00:27:45.600 actually a really famous photograph from the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918 of a doctor actually

00:27:50.740 break dancing in the middle of a hospital ward. Um, another guy's doing the Macarena. He was ahead

00:27:55.700 of his time. Oh wait, no, that none of that ever happened because usually during pandemics,

00:28:01.940 especially if we're being told the doc, the hospitals are overflowing and the staff is

00:28:05.760 overworked and everything. Uh, they're not going to take time to choreograph. That's what gets me.

00:28:09.920 It's the choreographing. The whole thing gets me. But if this was just a spontaneous spur of the

00:28:16.740 moment dancing, that would also be concerning, but they had to take some time to choreograph that

00:28:23.580 and to practice the dance moves. All right. Number five, I've been wanting to mention this for a few

00:28:30.400 days. Beth Moore, well-known Christian evangelist, um, had this to say a few days ago, this was on Twitter.

00:28:36.420 It got a lot of reaction. She says, I don't believe these are days for mincing words. I'm 63 and a half

00:28:43.440 years old, and I have never seen anything in these United States of America. I found more

00:28:46.900 astonishingly seductive and dangerous to the saints of God than Trumpism. This Christian nationalism is 0.94

00:28:53.900 not of God. Move back from it. Fellow leaders, we will be held responsible for remaining passive in

00:28:59.620 this day of seduction to save our own skin while the saints we've been entrusted to serve are being

00:29:04.040 seduced, manipulated, used, and stirred up into a lather of zeal, devoid of the Holy Spirit for political

00:29:10.300 gain. And God help us, we don't turn from Trumpism to Bidenism. We do not worship flesh and blood. We do not

00:29:16.140 place our faith in mortals. We are the church of the living God. We can't sanctify idolatry by labeling a

00:29:21.140 leader our Cyrus. We need no Cyrus. We have a king. His name is Jesus. Now, as far as I know, first of all, this

00:29:29.720 broadside against Trumpism from Beth Moore, this is the, I think, the first time she's come out as

00:29:37.380 explicitly and directly as this. When Trump is on his way out, now she's, now she's showing up to say,

00:29:45.380 oh, this Trumpism is a real problem. Now, first of all, if you really feel that way, why don't you say

00:29:50.520 four years ago? I mean, why haven't you been saying it this whole time? So, not exactly an example of

00:29:58.980 courage there. But also, even aside from that, and I could be wrong, by the way, maybe, I haven't

00:30:03.540 followed her work that closely. Maybe she's been saying this before. If she has, then I'll retract

00:30:08.060 that part of it. But regardless, the idea that Trumpism, that people being too enthused about

00:30:17.760 Trump is the most seductive and dangerous thing in the, in the church today in America. Are you

00:30:24.520 kidding me? Have you not been paying attention to, what do you think was happening before Trump came

00:30:29.740 along? It was all fine and dandy. The church, Christianity in America has been in a state of 0.93

00:30:36.860 collapse, spread out over decades. And Trump had nothing to do with that. Now, I agree that

00:30:43.740 idol worshiping of a politician is a problem. It's a problem on the left, it's a problem on the right.

00:30:50.640 And I've always said that. But it is by no means, even close, anywhere near the most dangerous or the

00:30:59.360 greatest threat the church faces today. You want to talk about what's seductive? Leftism.

00:31:06.860 That's what's seductive. Just look at the polls, look at the surveys, look at the surveys of all

00:31:13.880 the Christians who, who think that, you know, you could be a Christian and still be in favor of 0.98

00:31:19.600 babies being murdered. You could be a Christian and completely reject biblical morality and the 1.00

00:31:26.620 Bible's teachings on marriage and, and, and family and sex and all of that. That's seductive.

00:31:33.140 Okay. Okay. That has attracted more than just a segment of political conservatives that has

00:31:38.720 attracted millions of people across the board. And it has led to the, uh, to the

00:31:45.780 collapse of the church in America. And she, she surveys all of that damage

00:31:53.420 and sees Trump as the problem. Sees him as the problem now at the end. Now he's the problem.

00:32:04.000 Just, uh, I feel like I probably do her too much credit to say that this is oblivious or 0.97

00:32:09.960 ignorant on her part. I think she knows better, but she's too afraid. She's too afraid to stand up. 0.89

00:32:16.520 I mean, you can, you can stand up as a Christian apologist, as a Christian evangelist, you can

00:32:21.540 stand up and talk about Trumpism and you'll be applauded by most of the people who you want

00:32:26.300 to applaud you. Now you stand up and talk about sexual morality, talk about defending the family.

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00:35:23.140 cancellation. Today we're canceling Zania Jones. He's a transgender activist, self-proclaimed science 0.99

00:35:34.040 writer who recently presented the argument for potentially putting all children on hormone

00:35:39.460 blockers. Now, just for a little context and background here, Jones runs a YouTube account.

00:35:44.440 Uh, I'll give you a little taste of that. Just, you know, just so you understand who this is coming

00:35:48.200 from. This is Jones and some other person a couple of years ago, reacting to a Tucker Carlson segment,

00:35:53.160 which itself, the segment was reacting to Jones's statement that straight men are transphobic for not

00:35:59.140 wanting to date trans women. And this is what Zania Jones had to say about that. Listen,

00:36:04.780 I feel like this is just his way of saying, Oh, you expected people to just re-examine some belief

00:36:13.060 that they hold about a marginalized group. Oh, you just, you just, you just all want to f**k us then. 1.00

00:36:19.300 Is it? No. The entire reason I brought this up was because there are so many straight guys who 1.00

00:36:26.540 are into us. There are a ton of people who would be into us, but they have hangups about it because

00:36:33.460 they think, Oh, trans women aren't women, which is false because trans women are women. Uh, obviously. 0.98

00:36:41.720 If they could get past that, then maybe they'd realize that they could have a really good time

00:36:47.680 with us. I am trying to help them here. People who like trans women or might like trans women,

00:36:55.200 but have issues with it because of everything that society says. Uh, okay. You, you, yeah,

00:37:02.160 there you go. I don't think we need to watch more of that. Uh, just, just very quickly.

00:37:06.000 No, there are no straight men who are into you or could be by definition. I mean, by definition,

00:37:15.880 if you're a straight man, you are attracted to biological females. If you're attracted to anything

00:37:20.860 but biological females and you're a man, you're not a straight man by definition. So there you go. 1.00

00:37:26.400 There's Jones. Um, Jones has declared that, that children now, now this is, this is, this is the new

00:37:31.080 thing. Jones has declared that children should not be forced to undergo quote, the permanent and

00:37:34.940 irreversible changes that come with their own puberty without first quote, a professional

00:37:39.280 evaluation, suggesting that a child's natural process of growth and maturity somehow constitutes

00:37:45.720 a human rights violation. Jones says that, uh, the argument that children cannot give appropriate

00:37:51.700 consent for hormone blockers necessarily leads to the conclusion that we should be quote, putting

00:37:56.820 every single cis and trans person on puberty blockers until they are able to offer quote,

00:38:01.300 informed consent to go through puberty. Jones presents puberty as a choice and one that every

00:38:09.540 child should have the right to accept or decline. And in order to bring about this utopia, apparently

00:38:15.480 children should all be drugged by default. Now this is quite insane. Of course, it's hard to know

00:38:22.580 where to begin and explaining why it's insane. But one crucial point to make is that puberty is just one

00:38:29.760 stage in and facet of human development. If, if, if puberty violates consent, then my bones violated

00:38:40.040 my consent by making me six feet tall, actually six foot one, at least that's what I say. Certainly

00:38:46.260 my metabolism has committed a, an unspeakable crime against me by slowing down without asking first and

00:38:52.720 ensuring that I can no longer eat at Cinnabon without the evidence showing up around my midsection.

00:38:57.580 In fact, even as I, as I say these words, my heart is pumping blood without asking permission. My liver

00:39:03.000 has taken it upon itself to filter blood regardless of my personal preferences. I must also note with

00:39:08.920 special disappointment that, uh, my body has never sprouted wings so that I can fly in spite of my

00:39:14.540 repeated demands to that end. See, I exist here in this body, on this planet, in this reality, as this

00:39:21.660 person. And almost everything about my body, this planet, and this reality exists, exists independent

00:39:26.920 of how I feel about it. Our consent cannot be violated by nature because nature is outside the realm of

00:39:35.820 consent. Looters who destroy your store have committed a crime against you, but a hurricane that destroys

00:39:43.120 your store has not. You, just like you are not oppressed or victimized by a natural process

00:39:49.860 occurring in or to your body, even ones you don't like, even death itself, because this is all a part

00:39:57.860 of being a human person. And to say that you, a human person, are a victim of being a human person

00:40:04.900 is incoherent. Now, on the other hand, you can be a victim of and have your consent violated by

00:40:11.600 artificial substances intentionally introduced into your body in order to halt your natural

00:40:15.780 growth. If these drugs are given to you as a child, when your brain has not yet developed to the point

00:40:21.220 where it's able to properly evaluate all the options and make a truly informed choice, then you

00:40:25.640 are a victim. Something is being done to you artificially by another conscious agent, and you did not really

00:40:33.540 choose it because you are not able to make those sorts of choices. And this is science we're talking

00:40:38.800 about. The prefrontal cortex, the region of your brain heavily involved in decision-making, discernment,

00:40:44.220 evaluating choices, and so on, is not completely online until the age of 25. At the age of 9 or 10

00:40:49.340 or 12, it's not even close to fully operational. That's why children cannot be entrusted to make

00:40:55.040 any life-altering decisions for themselves at all. This is also the whole reason why we say it's rape

00:41:01.340 for adults to have sex with children. No matter what the children say, the child cannot choose 0.79

00:41:06.900 a sexual relationship with an adult because they cannot know what it entails, what the consequences

00:41:12.400 will be, what it all means, this very same logic clearly means that pubescent children do not take

00:41:19.880 drugs, they are given drugs. If an adult having sex with a child is not having sex with him but raping 0.95

00:41:26.560 him, then an adult giving hormone pills to a child is not medicating him but poisoning him. 0.92

00:41:32.280 But the one thing I will say for the demented and evil idea presented by Zania Jones, 0.99

00:41:39.300 I'll say that it's entirely consistent with every other demented and evil item on the radical LGBT 1.00

00:41:44.220 agenda. In fact, it's the logical conclusion of those things. If sex is assigned at birth by 0.61

00:41:50.700 unspecified nefarious forces, then puberty is part of that unfair assignment. If we must break free from

00:41:57.480 this assigning process by letting children choose their gender, then they should be able to choose

00:42:03.000 when and if they undergo puberty. Zania's point is inescapably correct if you accept the underlying

00:42:12.660 trans narrative. Many people in our culture do accept it or pretend to accept it because they're

00:42:19.520 too scared to be honest about what they really think. And that means that compulsory hormone pills for

00:42:25.260 all children is not as far-fetched as it sounds. We are marching on our way to that destination as we

00:42:33.120 speak. But preemptively, in the meantime, this person is absolutely incontrovertibly canceled.

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Ep. 623 - First They Came For Lee, Now They Come For Lincoln

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