Ep. 623 - First They Came For Lee, Now They Come For Lincoln
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Now they re coming for Abraham Lincoln. After Thomas Jefferson s name was taken off of a school in Virginia last week, now Abraham Lincoln High School in California is getting a name change. The purge of our history continues and it began with the attack on Confederate statues. Lots of people who went along with that are now appalled by the results of really their own actions. We ll talk about that today. Also, a doctor on MSNBC says that even if you get a vaccine, you still can t travel or live your normal life. A famous evangelist claims that Trumpism is the greatest threat facing the church today. Plus, your daily cancellation and much more.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, now they're coming for Abraham Lincoln. After Thomas Jefferson's
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name was taken off of a school in Virginia last week, now Abraham Lincoln High School in California
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is getting a name change. The purge of our history continues and it began with the attack
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on Confederate statues. Lots of people who went along with that are now appalled by the results
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of really their own actions. We'll talk about that today. Also, five headlines including news
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from a doctor on MSNBC that even if you get a vaccine, you still can't travel or live your
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normal life. A famous evangelist claims that Trumpism is the greatest threat facing the
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church today. Trumpism is. Plus, your daily cancellation and much more today on the Matt
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Wall Show. Well, as we get to the end of the year, I'm surveying the list of my reading goal for the
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That's thinker.org. All right. And as you can see, if you're watching, I have my leftist tears
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tumbler here with my sloth tea infuser. I'm told that's what it is. You can go to Instagram and
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see the videos. They're giving me gifts. I guess they keep giving me gifts until they find one that
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I like, but I feel like you're not trying that hard if a sloth tea infuser is your idea of something
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that I would like. Although it is, you know, I could get used to it. I kind of like having it here
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as my buddy on the desk. Now, it's been frustrating enough, you know, to watch people on the right for
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so many years go along with the left's cultural agenda, ceding ground, making compromise after
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compromise. Compromises that always seem to involve the left getting what it wants and us
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getting nothing. That's usually what the compromise is. That's not a compromise at all, by the way,
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that's surrender. But what makes the spectacle unbearable really is when those same people on the
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right act surprised, shocked, appalled by the results of their own cowardice. We've been seeing
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quite a bit of this sort of thing in recent days, first with the announcement that a school district
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in Virginia would be taking Thomas Jefferson's name off of their elementary school because he
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owned slaves. And now with the news, latest news, that San Francisco will be renaming its Abraham
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Lincoln High School, though Abraham Lincoln, quite famously, did not own slaves. He did not own slaves,
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but he did commit other moral crimes that now prohibit him from having a school named after him.
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The Daily Mail has the report. It says, quote, the district's renaming committee
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decided Lincoln is not worthy of keeping his name in Abraham Lincoln High School because, quote,
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the majority of his policies proved to be detrimental to Native Americans. Abraham Lincoln is not seen as
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much of a hero at all among the American Indian nations and Native peoples of the United States
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as the majority of his policies proved to be detrimental to them. The committee, the committee
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meeting notes state under his watch, indigenous peoples had much of their land taken away from them.
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In 1862, the Homestead Act, where citizens could claim ownership of 160 acres of land and the
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Pacific Railway Act, which gave railroad companies permission to build a transcontinental railroad
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across the America, quote, led to the significant loss of land and natural resources, as well as the
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loss of lifestyle and culture for many indigenous peoples. Jeremiah Jeffries, chairman of the renaming
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committee and a first grade teacher, told the San Francisco Chronicle, quote, Lincoln, like the
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presidents before him and most after did not show through policy or rhetoric that black lives ever
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mattered to them outside of human capital and as casualties of wealth building. So they can't get
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Lincoln on the slavery issue. Instead, they get him on Native Americans. And it's true that Native
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Americans had a rough time of it under Lincoln. It's true that once Europeans arrived in the new world
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500 years ago, a process began which would eventually lead to most Native Americans being driven from their
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land. A great many would die, though the majority of those would die through disease unknowingly brought
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here by the settlers. All of that is true. It's also true that the European and then American conquest
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of the new world occurred at a time in history when all lines were drawn and nations established and
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areas settled and claimed through conquest. This was the rule across the globe everywhere, among everyone
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for thousands of years with no exceptions. If you wanted land, you had to take it. If you wanted to
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keep what you already took, you had to defend it. If you couldn't defend it, you would lose it.
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That was the way of the world for most of human history. And it was especially the way among Native
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Americans themselves who were in a constant state of war with each other, other tribes, fighting and
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killing and enslaving each other, stealing land, then having it stolen from them. Then the Europeans showed up
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and played the same game of conquest and won. Now, somehow, after thousands of years of fighting and
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bloodshed across the globe, the descendants of those Europeans who also happened to establish the greatest
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civilization the world's ever seen are supposed to be the only ones racked with guilt, constantly
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apologizing and tearing down our monuments and reparation. It's ridiculous. But not according to
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Jeremiah Jeffries, chairman of the renaming committee. He's decided that Lincoln didn't do enough for black
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lives, as he put it. Of course, Lincoln did more than Jeremiah Jeffries has done or could do in a
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thousand lifetimes. Lincoln was a man of consequence, a history maker, world shaper. Jeremiah Jeffries,
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in contrast, is mediocre, vacuous. And we live in a time when lots of mediocre, vacuous people are
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deciding that the great men of history don't live up to their own standards. They're like morbidly obese
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gluttons laying on the couch, eating Cheetos, watching a bodybuilding competition, and complaining
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that the competitors are a little too flabby. But, and here's the point, this is not happening out of
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nowhere or in a vacuum. We can draw a direct clear line from the tearing down of Confederate monuments
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and the renaming of street schools and military installations to this attack on Abraham Lincoln or
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Jefferson or Washington. In fact, some of us said years ago when this began, myself included, that it
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would lead to this very point, that the exact logic used to posthumously condemn Robert E. Lee could just
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as well be applied to Lincoln or to anyone else in history. And we were told, even by conservatives,
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that such a slippery slope argument is a fallacy. And there's no reason why the historical purge has to
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go beyond Confederates. No, it'll stop right here, we were told. Well, it didn't. We were right.
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And we're right about this too. It's not over. It doesn't end here. It will never end. Not until
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every single hero of American history, of Western history, has been tried from the grave and condemned
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as a racist and a villain. None are safe. Certainly none of the white males, though I would predict that
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eventually, you know, they're going to get around to men like Martin Luther King Jr.
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for his behavior with women. Eventually they get around to everyone because all people who existed
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prior to about 10 years ago were problematic and had problematic views, according to the standards
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of the modern left. Meanwhile, in Mongolia, they have statues to Genghis Khan and honor him as a hero.
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He caused the deaths of 40 million people, 40 million, in the 13th century. And he wasn't using
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guns and bombs. There are 16 million men alive today related to Genghis Khan, largely because he was
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such a prolific rapist. So a mass murderer and a serial rapist. And yet nobody in Mongolia thinks
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of tearing down a statue, nor are they terribly torn up and guilt-ridden by the actions of their hero
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700 years ago. Now, you could argue that they take it too far in the other direction. Genghis Khan was,
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after all, one of the most evil men of history comparable to Hitler and Pol Pot and people in
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that tier. But I think the Mongolians are more correct in their approach to their historical
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heroes than we are right now in our approach to ours. It is better to honor problematic historical
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figures than to honor no historical figures. At least there's a humility in recognizing the
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achievements of your ancestors. At least there's a gratitude in appreciating what they did to form the
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civilization in which you live. I would take that over having no gratitude, no appreciation,
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no acknowledgement. Look, it's long past time to choose a side on this. You're either with the woke
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mob tearing down our history or you're against them. You can't be with them on some things and
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against them on others. You can't say, well, I'll pick up the pitchfork and call for this statue to be
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torn down. But then that's going to be it. No, the woke mob must be opposed on principle
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in everything. Even if you would otherwise agree with them about something, even if there's a statue
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you also don't like, and they're saying tearing, tear it down. You should say, well, I don't like the
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statue either, but since you maniacs are trying to pull it down, I say, keep it and build another
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bigger one and put it right next to that one. That is the only way to deal with these people.
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There is no other way to give them nothing. Nothing. Give them nothing. That's the only way.
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And now the very latest development, Andrew Cuomo, this is breaking news today, will be signing a
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bill to outlaw the sale of Confederate flags, to outlaw the sale of Confederate flags in New York,
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which is outrageously unconstitutional, of course. I mean, it doesn't even come close
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to approaching the realm of constitutional. It's also pointless as New York is not exactly known as a
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bastion of Confederate sympathizers. But if any mention of the Confederacy is so traumatizing to
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the sensitive souls walking around today that we have to take down the statues and remove the names,
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then sure, why not ban the flags too? To wave the flag itself is a hate crime, an act of violence.
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That's the logic. It's bad logic. It's indefensible. It's appalling. It's stupid.
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But it's where we are. And we have the cowardice and short-sightedness of many conservatives to thank
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4hims.com slash Matt. By the way, Ben Shapiro on his show today is going to be, is going
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to have more about this Lincoln situation. Also, I'll be joining to, to talk about it as
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well. So you can tune in for that. And I just saw this now, this is not one of our headlines,
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but I'm just sort of tacking it on to the, to the front here. But I want you to look at
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this headline from the website Queer Tea. Uh, it says, let's see, it says Pete Buttigieg makes history
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as first out cabinet member. He was nominated as a transportation secretary for unclear reasons.
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I'm not sure that he has any, I don't know what expertise he has in the realm of transportation,
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but, uh, they were, you know, they, they, they wanted to give him a cabinet kind of a, you know,
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it's, it's a runner up sort of prize that they give. And so they said, Oh, we'll make him
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transportation secretary. So that's, that's the headline, right? Pete Buttigieg makes history
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his first, uh, gay out cabinet member. Then here's another headline though, also from Queer Tea.
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And this is from not even a year ago. This is from February of 2020. It says Trump makes Richard
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Grinnell first openly gay cabinet secretary in history. Again, this is the same publication
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within a year. First claiming that Richard Grinnell is the, is the first gay cabinet, uh, official.
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And now they're saying, I don't know, actually it's, it's Buttigieg. He's the first gay one.
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How do you make sense of that? It's, it's, we talk about erasing history. Okay. They don't need
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to go back 150 years to erase history. They're going to erase history that happened like 10 months ago
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and just pretend that that, yeah, we're going to pretend that it didn't happen.
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Yeah. Pete Buttigieg is the first, second gay cabinet official. He's the first one to be the second
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one. And I would even say, and you know, this is credit to him. He's probably going to be the only
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second one. There will never be another second gay cabinet official. So give him credit for that.
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Or you could even say, I mean, he is the probably right. The first openly gay cabinet official in the
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department of transportation, which is probably the most boring political milestone in history,
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which is itself another milestone. So why don't we just go with that? That, that, that should be
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the headline. Pete Buttigieg lays claim to most boring, uh, political milestone in history. That's
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an accomplishment. All right. Number one, vaccines are now being administered with Trump having made
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good on his promise to, uh, have a vaccine available by the end of the year. Many in the media mocked
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Trump for saying that and have of course not apologized or admitted that they were wrong. Instead,
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they've moved on to explaining why, well, okay, yeah, he did get the vaccine to us, but, uh, actually
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the vaccine's basically pointless because even after you take it, you still can't resume your normal
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life. Here's a doctor and pandemic consultant, quote unquote, on MSNBC explaining watch. Uh, tomorrow
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morning and I'm, and I'm grateful for it. Um, Chuck, I just wanted to say, uh, just a follow-up on what
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Yasmin mentioned, uh, just for your viewers out there. Um, I know one of the individuals who we just saw
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getting vaccinated is planning on traveling after the second dose. I, I, this is a source of confusion,
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but no, uh, this is one of the misperceptions here. Just cause you get vaccinated with that
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second dose does not mean you should be participating in things like traveling in the
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middle of an out of control pandemic or that you're liberated from masks. Everything still applies
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until all of us get the two dose regimen. And we don't think that's going to happen until June,
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July. But, and again, this goes back to what we just talked about, Chuck. We don't know if
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just getting the vaccination prevents serious illness, or does it also prevent you from getting
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infection, um, entirely, meaning you can still get infected with the virus potentially and pass
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it on to others. So really, really critical. Don't let your guard down just cause you got
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vaccinated. You still might be able to get infected with the virus and pass on others. So please keep
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that in mind. Okay. So the, so according to him, the vaccine is meaningless, pointless, doesn't do
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anything. According to him, that's, that's, that appears to be what he's saying. Well, yeah, it's,
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it's a source of confusion. Oh, oh, you were confused. You thought the vaccine did something.
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No, no, no, no, no, no. You still, everything goes on exactly how it has, how it has been,
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even after you get the vaccine until we all get it. Well, why is that? Is this like what I tell my
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kids where, you know, nobody's allowed to leave the table until everybody's finished eating?
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No, that to me is just a matter of courtesy and good etiquette. So is that, is that what we're
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doing here? Well, it wouldn't, it wouldn't be courteous. It'd be bad etiquette. If you get the
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vaccine and then you start running around without a mask and you get to go on a vacation, makes
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everyone feel bad. And so you shouldn't do that until everyone else could do it too. Is that what
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they're telling us? I would prefer that logic over what it appears that he's saying, which is that
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yeah, even if you, after you get the vaccine, there's still a chance you could get it. There's
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a chance. All right. Well, if, if that's the logic, then the lockdowns never end and masking never ends
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because there's always going to be a chance. Even after everybody gets the vaccine, even if every
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man, woman and child in America gets a vaccine, still there's going to be a chance, right? There's
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always a chance. There's a chance you could get any disease that you get vaccinated for. There's always
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a chance. The flu, there's a chance you'd get a really bad case of the flu, even if, even after
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you get the flu shot. So if that's all it is, if it's just, well, there's still a chance.
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As long as there's a chance, it means you can't resume your normal life. Okay. Well,
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that means we will never resume our normal lives. Number two, staying on COVID for another moment
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here. A video went viral yesterday of a man in extremely short shorts chasing and berating a
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woman in a store, uh, because she wasn't wearing a mask. We've seen this kind of thing before,
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but this is more aggressive. Um, this is a man who is more aggressive and certainly is showing more
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of his leg than we've seen before and would like to see. But, uh, here it is. Watch.
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Put your mask on. I'm sorry. You can walk away from me right now, sir.
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Put your mask on. Get away from me. Put it on. Does it bother anybody else that she doesn't have to
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wear a mask that we all do? Just go away. Stay six feet away from me then. No. Get away from me.
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No. Yeah. Please get away from me right now. No. You don't need to come near me. She has it on
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Walk away from me, sir. Please get away from me.
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Leave me alone. She put, she can't, she can't get away from me then.
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I know who you voted for. Um, I hadn't seen the end of that video. I like that.
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I think we all, I think we all know who that guy voted for. And the first thing that comes to mind
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for me again is just, and I know this isn't really the headline, but does he not have anyone
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in his life that, that loves him and cares about him and saw him leaving the house in those shorts
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and said, Hey, Whoa, no, no, no, no, no, no. And the whole get up the, the shirt, if you're just
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listening to this, by the way, if you're listening to this and you didn't see the video, um, you have
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an image in your head of what that guy probably looks like. That's exactly it. The image you have
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in your head that you've drawn in your head of that man, you're right. That is exactly what you
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think. And really that's just no man at all. I call him a man only loosely, only in a strictly
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biological sense, assuming, you know, if I could his biology, but in every other sense, that is no
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man at all. Speaking to a woman that way, first of all, wearing those shorts and that shirt
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and just being a coward. This is what I talk about all the time. Now that this normalization of,
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of cowardice is someone so afraid. Oh, you're going to get me sick. Put a mask on. You're
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going to get me sick. I'm scared. I'm scared of my short shorts. You should be the one covering up.
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I'd much rather be in a, in a, in a building with a hundred people without masks on than a hundred
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guys like that wearing those shorts. Uh, there's another, so there's, there's a comparison being
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drawn here. I'm not sure if the comparison is fair, but there's another video, uh, really audio
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that's, that's gone viral yesterday. This one of, uh, Tom Cruise and on the set of the latest
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mission impossible. I think they're on mission impossible 52 now. And he's berating some of the
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people, some of the workers on set for, uh, not following the COVID guidelines. And he makes his
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opinion known loud and clear. Here it is. Listen,
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They're back here in Hollywood making movies right now because of us, because they believe
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in us and what we're doing. I'm on the phone with every studio at night, insurance companies,
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producers, and they're looking at us and using us to make their movies. We are creating thousands
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of jobs. I don't ever want to see it again. Ever. And if you don't do it, you're fired.
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And I see you do it again. You're gone. And anyone on this crew does it. That's it. And you
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don't ever do it again. That's it. No apologies. You can tell it to the people that are losing
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their home because our industry is shut down. It's not going to put food on their table or
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pay for the college education. That's what I sleep with every night.
00:23:04.800
Yeah. I'm not really, I'm not sure. I didn't, I didn't get a pulse on, on how people are reacting
00:23:09.260
to that. I actually, I don't hate it. I don't really care one way or another, to be honest
00:23:14.940
about Tom Cruise yelling. I thought I'd play it anyway, but if I had, if I had to make a judgment
00:23:20.380
call, I don't, I don't hate that. I don't, I don't hate it nearly as much as I hate the guy
00:23:23.860
in the, uh, in the store because Tom Cruise, you know, he's basically, these are his employees.
00:23:30.400
He's a producer of the film and they have strict guidelines. They have to follow. Otherwise
00:23:35.300
the movie gets shut down. Lots of people lose their jobs. And so he needs people just to do
00:23:39.840
it and play the game so we can keep, you know, so we can keep the, keep it going. Um, so that
00:23:45.140
to me is different from just some random dude in short shorts at the, at the grocery store,
00:23:50.920
chasing a woman down for not wearing me. He's got no authority.
00:23:53.860
I say the same thing about, you know, if I'm, if I'm out in public and someone, and this has
00:23:59.940
happened to me, I mentioned it before. And someone comes up to me and says, why aren't
00:24:02.100
you wearing a mask? Just some random schmo walking down the street. I'm not going to pay
00:24:05.100
any attention to them. Now, if I walk into a store and an employee or manager there says,
00:24:09.980
we need you to wear the mask. I don't like it. I'll respect that because you have the authority
00:24:14.940
to tell me that in your establishment, I can always leave. Um, so I, I, I, I'm going to say,
00:24:22.680
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to say Tom Cruise is not canceled over that one.
00:24:26.680
The guy in the short shorts is. All right. Let's go to number three, lengthy New York
00:24:31.040
times article published yesterday, getting a lot of reaction. And I'll be honest with
00:24:36.340
you. I didn't even read it. Um, as I feel like I didn't need to, but the headline is how
00:24:42.620
the journalist Jeffrey Toobin went from respected New Yorker writer to hashtag punchline and subject
00:24:48.160
of debate. The reason I didn't read it is because I think I know, um, masturbating in front of his
00:24:54.620
coworkers. That's how it happened. That's a, you know, that, that is a one way ticket to being a
00:25:01.320
punchline and a hashtag. And really there's no, what is there to debate? That's what he did.
00:25:07.560
It is interesting though, to see though, not surprising in the media, this attempted rehabilitation
00:25:11.940
of Jeffrey Toobin, considering all the people that these folks in the media have tried to destroy,
00:25:18.980
you know, going back even to Nick Sandman, a kid in a, in a hat standing outside, smiling at a
00:25:26.440
Native American drumming in his face. Oh, we're going to try to destroy him, but Jeffrey Toobin,
00:25:31.840
let's try to rehabilitate him. Let's just remember that with, with Jeffrey Toobin,
00:25:36.760
it's not as though he was in the privacy of his own home and just on his own. And then someone like
00:25:45.180
hacked into his webcam and got a video of this and then posted it or something. If that happened,
00:25:51.740
then I would say he's a victim here. That's not what happened. He was on, he was in a meeting.
00:25:58.780
He was in a meeting with his coworkers and decided to drop his pants and get to work.
00:26:06.760
It's entirely different. You do something like that. Yeah. You deserve to be fired.
00:26:11.920
And of course, you're going to be a punchline. How else are we supposed to respond to that?
00:26:18.740
And I, it still has not become entirely clear to me because I, I, the people defending Jeffrey
00:26:24.460
Toobin, I don't think any of them have defended Louis CK. They, these guys to me did basically the
00:26:32.100
same thing. So I'm not sure I see the difference other than Louis CK guy, I guess, got consent
00:26:37.980
before he did it. So arguably he's not as bad as Jeffrey Toobin. All right, let's go to a number
00:26:43.940
four here. I regret to inform you. They are dancing again. They're back at it. The nurses
00:26:49.580
are dancing again on Tik TOK. Here's the latest video. This is from yesterday. I think it's a hospital
00:26:55.400
in New York though. Oh no, it's Boston says right there. Okay. Hospital in Boston, Boston
00:26:59.860
medical center. And, uh, they're doing a little choreographed dance routine. Let's, uh, let's
00:27:05.320
watch that. Okay. We can see that they've got, okay. Now this is the real choreographed move
00:27:12.620
here. Look at this guy in the blue suit, very blue suit. He's really into it. Guys in the background,
00:27:18.440
not so much. The reason why they're dancing is that they're celebrating the vaccine.
00:27:28.260
And so they're outside dancing. This really does remind me of what I've read about, um,
00:27:33.860
like with the black plague in Europe. And you know, if you, if you read, go on Wikipedia,
00:27:39.420
uh, doctors used to gather in the town square and do synchronized dance routines. And there's
00:27:45.600
actually a really famous photograph from the Spanish flu pandemic in 1918 of a doctor actually
00:27:50.740
break dancing in the middle of a hospital ward. Um, another guy's doing the Macarena. He was ahead
00:27:55.700
of his time. Oh wait, no, that none of that ever happened because usually during pandemics,
00:28:01.940
especially if we're being told the doc, the hospitals are overflowing and the staff is
00:28:05.760
overworked and everything. Uh, they're not going to take time to choreograph. That's what gets me.
00:28:09.920
It's the choreographing. The whole thing gets me. But if this was just a spontaneous spur of the
00:28:16.740
moment dancing, that would also be concerning, but they had to take some time to choreograph that
00:28:23.580
and to practice the dance moves. All right. Number five, I've been wanting to mention this for a few
00:28:30.400
days. Beth Moore, well-known Christian evangelist, um, had this to say a few days ago, this was on Twitter.
00:28:36.420
It got a lot of reaction. She says, I don't believe these are days for mincing words. I'm 63 and a half
00:28:43.440
years old, and I have never seen anything in these United States of America. I found more
00:28:46.900
astonishingly seductive and dangerous to the saints of God than Trumpism. This Christian nationalism is
00:28:53.900
not of God. Move back from it. Fellow leaders, we will be held responsible for remaining passive in
00:28:59.620
this day of seduction to save our own skin while the saints we've been entrusted to serve are being
00:29:04.040
seduced, manipulated, used, and stirred up into a lather of zeal, devoid of the Holy Spirit for political
00:29:10.300
gain. And God help us, we don't turn from Trumpism to Bidenism. We do not worship flesh and blood. We do not
00:29:16.140
place our faith in mortals. We are the church of the living God. We can't sanctify idolatry by labeling a
00:29:21.140
leader our Cyrus. We need no Cyrus. We have a king. His name is Jesus. Now, as far as I know, first of all, this
00:29:29.720
broadside against Trumpism from Beth Moore, this is the, I think, the first time she's come out as
00:29:37.380
explicitly and directly as this. When Trump is on his way out, now she's, now she's showing up to say,
00:29:45.380
oh, this Trumpism is a real problem. Now, first of all, if you really feel that way, why don't you say
00:29:50.520
four years ago? I mean, why haven't you been saying it this whole time? So, not exactly an example of
00:29:58.980
courage there. But also, even aside from that, and I could be wrong, by the way, maybe, I haven't
00:30:03.540
followed her work that closely. Maybe she's been saying this before. If she has, then I'll retract
00:30:08.060
that part of it. But regardless, the idea that Trumpism, that people being too enthused about
00:30:17.760
Trump is the most seductive and dangerous thing in the, in the church today in America. Are you
00:30:24.520
kidding me? Have you not been paying attention to, what do you think was happening before Trump came
00:30:29.740
along? It was all fine and dandy. The church, Christianity in America has been in a state of
00:30:36.860
collapse, spread out over decades. And Trump had nothing to do with that. Now, I agree that
00:30:43.740
idol worshiping of a politician is a problem. It's a problem on the left, it's a problem on the right.
00:30:50.640
And I've always said that. But it is by no means, even close, anywhere near the most dangerous or the
00:30:59.360
greatest threat the church faces today. You want to talk about what's seductive? Leftism.
00:31:06.860
That's what's seductive. Just look at the polls, look at the surveys, look at the surveys of all
00:31:13.880
the Christians who, who think that, you know, you could be a Christian and still be in favor of
00:31:19.600
babies being murdered. You could be a Christian and completely reject biblical morality and the
00:31:26.620
Bible's teachings on marriage and, and, and family and sex and all of that. That's seductive.
00:31:33.140
Okay. Okay. That has attracted more than just a segment of political conservatives that has
00:31:38.720
attracted millions of people across the board. And it has led to the, uh, to the
00:31:45.780
collapse of the church in America. And she, she surveys all of that damage
00:31:53.420
and sees Trump as the problem. Sees him as the problem now at the end. Now he's the problem.
00:32:04.000
Just, uh, I feel like I probably do her too much credit to say that this is oblivious or
00:32:09.960
ignorant on her part. I think she knows better, but she's too afraid. She's too afraid to stand up.
00:32:16.520
I mean, you can, you can stand up as a Christian apologist, as a Christian evangelist, you can
00:32:21.540
stand up and talk about Trumpism and you'll be applauded by most of the people who you want
00:32:26.300
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00:32:36.180
Then that's a different story that takes actual courage and she doesn't have it. And so that's
00:32:40.080
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cancellation. Today we're canceling Zania Jones. He's a transgender activist, self-proclaimed science
00:35:34.040
writer who recently presented the argument for potentially putting all children on hormone
00:35:39.460
blockers. Now, just for a little context and background here, Jones runs a YouTube account.
00:35:44.440
Uh, I'll give you a little taste of that. Just, you know, just so you understand who this is coming
00:35:48.200
from. This is Jones and some other person a couple of years ago, reacting to a Tucker Carlson segment,
00:35:53.160
which itself, the segment was reacting to Jones's statement that straight men are transphobic for not
00:35:59.140
wanting to date trans women. And this is what Zania Jones had to say about that. Listen,
00:36:04.780
I feel like this is just his way of saying, Oh, you expected people to just re-examine some belief
00:36:13.060
that they hold about a marginalized group. Oh, you just, you just, you just all want to f**k us then.
00:36:19.300
Is it? No. The entire reason I brought this up was because there are so many straight guys who
00:36:26.540
are into us. There are a ton of people who would be into us, but they have hangups about it because
00:36:33.460
they think, Oh, trans women aren't women, which is false because trans women are women. Uh, obviously.
00:36:41.720
If they could get past that, then maybe they'd realize that they could have a really good time
00:36:47.680
with us. I am trying to help them here. People who like trans women or might like trans women,
00:36:55.200
but have issues with it because of everything that society says. Uh, okay. You, you, yeah,
00:37:02.160
there you go. I don't think we need to watch more of that. Uh, just, just very quickly.
00:37:06.000
No, there are no straight men who are into you or could be by definition. I mean, by definition,
00:37:15.880
if you're a straight man, you are attracted to biological females. If you're attracted to anything
00:37:20.860
but biological females and you're a man, you're not a straight man by definition. So there you go.
00:37:26.400
There's Jones. Um, Jones has declared that, that children now, now this is, this is, this is the new
00:37:31.080
thing. Jones has declared that children should not be forced to undergo quote, the permanent and
00:37:34.940
irreversible changes that come with their own puberty without first quote, a professional
00:37:39.280
evaluation, suggesting that a child's natural process of growth and maturity somehow constitutes
00:37:45.720
a human rights violation. Jones says that, uh, the argument that children cannot give appropriate
00:37:51.700
consent for hormone blockers necessarily leads to the conclusion that we should be quote, putting
00:37:56.820
every single cis and trans person on puberty blockers until they are able to offer quote,
00:38:01.300
informed consent to go through puberty. Jones presents puberty as a choice and one that every
00:38:09.540
child should have the right to accept or decline. And in order to bring about this utopia, apparently
00:38:15.480
children should all be drugged by default. Now this is quite insane. Of course, it's hard to know
00:38:22.580
where to begin and explaining why it's insane. But one crucial point to make is that puberty is just one
00:38:29.760
stage in and facet of human development. If, if, if puberty violates consent, then my bones violated
00:38:40.040
my consent by making me six feet tall, actually six foot one, at least that's what I say. Certainly
00:38:46.260
my metabolism has committed a, an unspeakable crime against me by slowing down without asking first and
00:38:52.720
ensuring that I can no longer eat at Cinnabon without the evidence showing up around my midsection.
00:38:57.580
In fact, even as I, as I say these words, my heart is pumping blood without asking permission. My liver
00:39:03.000
has taken it upon itself to filter blood regardless of my personal preferences. I must also note with
00:39:08.920
special disappointment that, uh, my body has never sprouted wings so that I can fly in spite of my
00:39:14.540
repeated demands to that end. See, I exist here in this body, on this planet, in this reality, as this
00:39:21.660
person. And almost everything about my body, this planet, and this reality exists, exists independent
00:39:26.920
of how I feel about it. Our consent cannot be violated by nature because nature is outside the realm of
00:39:35.820
consent. Looters who destroy your store have committed a crime against you, but a hurricane that destroys
00:39:43.120
your store has not. You, just like you are not oppressed or victimized by a natural process
00:39:49.860
occurring in or to your body, even ones you don't like, even death itself, because this is all a part
00:39:57.860
of being a human person. And to say that you, a human person, are a victim of being a human person
00:40:04.900
is incoherent. Now, on the other hand, you can be a victim of and have your consent violated by
00:40:11.600
artificial substances intentionally introduced into your body in order to halt your natural
00:40:15.780
growth. If these drugs are given to you as a child, when your brain has not yet developed to the point
00:40:21.220
where it's able to properly evaluate all the options and make a truly informed choice, then you
00:40:25.640
are a victim. Something is being done to you artificially by another conscious agent, and you did not really
00:40:33.540
choose it because you are not able to make those sorts of choices. And this is science we're talking
00:40:38.800
about. The prefrontal cortex, the region of your brain heavily involved in decision-making, discernment,
00:40:44.220
evaluating choices, and so on, is not completely online until the age of 25. At the age of 9 or 10
00:40:49.340
or 12, it's not even close to fully operational. That's why children cannot be entrusted to make
00:40:55.040
any life-altering decisions for themselves at all. This is also the whole reason why we say it's rape
00:41:01.340
for adults to have sex with children. No matter what the children say, the child cannot choose
00:41:06.900
a sexual relationship with an adult because they cannot know what it entails, what the consequences
00:41:12.400
will be, what it all means, this very same logic clearly means that pubescent children do not take
00:41:19.880
drugs, they are given drugs. If an adult having sex with a child is not having sex with him but raping
00:41:26.560
him, then an adult giving hormone pills to a child is not medicating him but poisoning him.
00:41:32.280
But the one thing I will say for the demented and evil idea presented by Zania Jones,
00:41:39.300
I'll say that it's entirely consistent with every other demented and evil item on the radical LGBT
00:41:44.220
agenda. In fact, it's the logical conclusion of those things. If sex is assigned at birth by
00:41:50.700
unspecified nefarious forces, then puberty is part of that unfair assignment. If we must break free from
00:41:57.480
this assigning process by letting children choose their gender, then they should be able to choose
00:42:03.000
when and if they undergo puberty. Zania's point is inescapably correct if you accept the underlying
00:42:12.660
trans narrative. Many people in our culture do accept it or pretend to accept it because they're
00:42:19.520
too scared to be honest about what they really think. And that means that compulsory hormone pills for
00:42:25.260
all children is not as far-fetched as it sounds. We are marching on our way to that destination as we
00:42:33.120
speak. But preemptively, in the meantime, this person is absolutely incontrovertibly canceled.
00:42:43.160
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