The Matt Walsh Show - February 24, 2021


Ep. 665 - Shocking Survey Shows Just How Effective Media Disinformation Has Been


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45 minutes

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Summary

A recent survey shows just how thoroughly the media has misled the public on the topic of police shootings. Also, Dr. Fauci says society will not be allowed to go back to normal until he s the boss, and Biden s health secretary pick tries to dodge questions about his support for infanticide. And our daily cancellation will cancel the Chief of Cherokee Nation who demands that Jeep stop using his tribe s name.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, a recent survey shows just how thoroughly the media has misled
00:00:04.720 the public on the topic of police shootings. Also, five headlines, including Dr. Fauci stating that
00:00:09.240 society will not be allowed to go back to normal until he says so. He's the boss. And Biden's
00:00:14.440 health secretary pick tries to dodge questions about his support for infanticide. And our daily
00:00:19.220 cancellation will cancel the chief of Cherokee Nation who demands that Jeep stop using his
00:00:24.500 tribe's name. But we can't explain why. All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
00:00:30.000 In recent years, the media has been in a much publicized war against misinformation.
00:00:43.040 One might think it would be quite easy for them to slay that particular dragon. All they have to do
00:00:47.380 is stop misinforming people. They are, after all, the primary purveyors of fake news and all of its
00:00:52.540 forms. Some people may be led astray by, you know, Facebook memes and random tweets that pop into their
00:00:58.680 Twitter feeds. But the internet trolls who spread lies and innuendo through those avenues are mere
00:01:04.600 amateurs compared to the American media. The latter group has elevated misinformation to an art form.
00:01:11.000 They have perfected it. They are experts in the field. And now the world's greatest misinformers
00:01:16.700 have given themselves the task of combating misinformation. It's a classic case of the fox guarding the
00:01:23.920 penthouse. But if misinformation is the media's art form, then their narrative around police shootings
00:01:29.580 is their Mona Lisa, their Pieta, their masterpiece. On no other issue is the general public so thoroughly
00:01:37.240 deluded, misled, and confused. And on no other issue has the consequence of that delusion
00:01:43.240 been so utterly catastrophic. Billions of dollars of damage inflicted, hundreds of buildings torched,
00:01:49.120 dozens of people murdered, disastrous public policies and laws enacted, and this just over
00:01:54.640 the past nine months, thanks almost exclusively to the media's misinformation campaign about police
00:02:00.640 shootings. A recent survey from Skeptic Magazine illustrates in profound terms exactly how effective
00:02:07.800 this campaign has been. Interviewing a sample of American adults across the political spectrum,
00:02:13.340 researchers asked the people two questions. One, if you had to guess, how many unarmed black men were
00:02:21.260 killed by police in 2019? And respondents were given options that ranged from about 10 to over 10,000.
00:02:29.220 Two, if you had to guess, in 2019, what percentage of people killed by police were black? And here the
00:02:35.660 survey group could respond with any percentage between zero and 100. The responses to these two questions
00:02:42.000 reveal confusion, intentionally cultivated confusion on a massive scale. 30% of those identifying as very
00:02:49.840 liberal guessed that about 100 unarmed black men had been killed by police in 2019. 38% of self-identified
00:02:58.120 liberals guessed the same. So you got very liberal and liberal, as did 40% of moderates, 40% of conservatives,
00:03:05.240 and 33% of very conservatives. 31% of the very liberal group thought that the number of unarmed black men killed by
00:03:13.080 police was around 1,000, as did 26% of liberals, 16% of moderates, 9% of conservatives, and 13% of very
00:03:20.920 conservatives. There were even sizable portions of each group that thought that 10,000 or more unarmed black men had been
00:03:28.400 fatally shot by police in a single calendar year. For very liberals, it was over 20% that thought that.
00:03:35.720 Liberals, 11%, moderates, 8%, conservatives, 4%, very conservatives, 6%. Now, the actual number of unarmed black men
00:03:43.940 killed by police in 2019, according to the Washington Post database, is 13. 13. Not 100, not 1,000, not 10,000, 13.
00:03:52.960 And even 13 is likely a significant overestimation. As I previously showed, only six of the 13 unarmed
00:04:00.540 shootings in that year were clearly unjustified. Only one was a case of apparent murder, and that
00:04:06.920 officer has been charged accordingly. You could make a case for manslaughter in two or three of the other
00:04:11.160 cases, and those officers have been charged with crimes too. But in eight of the 13 unarmed shootings,
00:04:17.360 the suspects were in the process of running officers down in their cars, violently assaulting them,
00:04:22.380 or otherwise presenting themselves as lethal threats. For example, Kevin Mason of Baltimore is
00:04:28.320 categorized as an unarmed man shot by cops, and he was, but he also told officers that he had a gun
00:04:35.320 and intended to, quote, kill every last one of them. Marzu Scott was shot while unarmed, but only
00:04:41.200 because he assaulted a female officer, knocked her to the ground, and forced her to use the gun after
00:04:46.080 her taser was ineffective. Isaiah Lewis pounced on an officer and knocked him unconscious before getting
00:04:51.520 shot. He also may have been unarmed, but he was no less of a threat because of it. The point is that
00:04:57.100 not every unarmed shooting is unjustified or even really unarmed. In fact, at least in 2019, most of
00:05:04.520 the unarmed shootings were clearly justified. Putting all that to the side, we're left with,
00:05:11.460 quote, about 10 unarmed black men and one woman shot by cops in 2019. What this means is that the
00:05:18.780 majority of people in every ideological category overestimated the number by at least a factor of
00:05:25.500 10? Huge numbers of liberals and moderates overestimated by factors of 100 or 1,000.
00:05:33.360 The situation isn't much better for the second question. On average, liberals thought that between
00:05:38.580 55 and 60 percent of people killed by police in 2019 were black. Moderates thought the figure was
00:05:43.760 around 45 percent. Conservatives and very conservatives thought it was between 35 and 45 percent.
00:05:48.920 Again, all of the groups missed the mark by a wide margin. In reality, only 23.4 percent of those
00:05:55.640 killed by police in 2019 were black. Between 2015 and 2020, the figure averages out to about 26 percent.
00:06:02.820 Conservatives came the closest to the truth, but even they tacked on an imaginary 20 percent
00:06:08.140 on top of the 23 percent that it actually was. Now, you might argue that the average person isn't
00:06:14.280 spending much time researching the exact demographic details of police shootings in 2019 or any other
00:06:19.340 year. Okay, this is part of my job, so I've done the research. I've looked into it. Not everybody has,
00:06:25.780 and so you might say, well, it's not very surprising that they get it wrong in a survey of this sort.
00:06:31.020 But the problem isn't that they didn't know the precise number. It's that they couldn't land in
00:06:37.700 the ballpark or even in the neighborhood of the ballpark. The average person may not know exactly
00:06:44.700 the number of Americans killed each year by lightning strikes, but if I gave you options of,
00:06:50.160 you know, here's a survey question. How many Americans are killed each year by lightning strikes?
00:06:53.820 Your options are around 50, around 5,000 or around 50,000. Now, I'm guessing that you already
00:07:01.380 thought to yourself, well, it's probably around 50, and that's correct. That's because the average
00:07:06.660 person has the capacity to make reasonable judgments about the threat posed by lightning strikes. We all
00:07:11.480 know they happen, but we also know they're pretty rare, and there's no way in hell that lightning bolts
00:07:16.140 from the sky are smiting 50,000 people in this country every year. The idea that police are killing
00:07:23.020 1,000 or 10,000 unarmed black people in a year or that half of the people killed each year by police
00:07:31.060 are black is just as absurd. It's just as obviously bogus. But the average person can't see the absurdity
00:07:39.160 for what it is because their judgment and capacity for making reasonable estimations on this issue
00:07:43.680 has been obliterated after years of relentless propaganda from the media. This is what we're up
00:07:49.780 against. For all of the skepticism rightly targeted at the media, even the skeptics can be wildly misled
00:07:57.300 by that same media. No matter how much of an independent thinker, a critical thinker you might
00:08:02.840 consider yourself to be, it's difficult to keep your wits about you when surrounded by a constant fog of
00:08:08.940 lies and half-truths. Ed Harris's character in The Truman Show had it right when he said,
00:08:15.860 we accept the reality of the world with which we're presented. It's as simple as that.
00:08:20.900 And it is indeed that simple for many of us, but it shouldn't be. As we have learned time and time
00:08:26.220 again, the reality and what we are presented can often be two very different things. Let's get now to
00:08:35.840 five headlines. So we've heard from Fauci in sort of vague terms in recent days, implying that the
00:08:47.100 masking and social distancing and all of that would have to continue even for people who are vaccinated
00:08:53.940 basically indefinitely. But now we have him in a teleconference, I think with the National Institute
00:09:00.240 of Health, being as clear and explicit on this subject as we've heard him so far. And here's
00:09:07.420 what he had to say. Listen. There are certain aspects of being vaccinated and what that means
00:09:13.480 to you personally and your own personal safety and that of your family versus what vaccines will allow
00:09:20.520 you to do in society. One relates to you yourself being vaccinated and the other relates to the number
00:09:28.700 of people and the relative percentage of people in society that will be vaccinated because there
00:09:34.280 will be things that you will not be able to do because the burden of virus in society will be very
00:09:42.660 high, which it is right now. Even though we're going way down on the decline that Dr. Walensky
00:09:47.520 showed you, we are still at an unacceptably high baseline level with the seven-day average being quite high.
00:09:57.020 So there are things, even if you're vaccinated, that you're not going to be able to do in society.
00:10:02.300 For example, indoor dining, theaters, places where people congregate. That's because of the safety of
00:10:09.800 society. You yourself, what you can do when you are together with another person, we are looking at
00:10:16.980 that and we're going to try and find out very quickly what recommendations could be made about what
00:10:23.180 people can do. Okay. So there we go. Um, they're looking at it, you know, what, what can you do
00:10:28.800 with another person? If you're waiting around for a guy like Fauci to tell you what you can do when
00:10:34.600 you're around another person, then he's looking at it and he'll get back to you that, but for right
00:10:40.060 now, sit on your couch with your hands tucked under, under your legs and don't move and don't touch
00:10:46.300 anything and don't talk to anybody. And he'll get back to you, let you know exactly what you're allowed
00:10:49.240 to do in your own house with, uh, with, with other people. I mean, if, if you are actually
00:10:55.040 still waiting around for guys like Fauci to give you the okay, before you go and live your life,
00:10:59.800 then, um, then I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to, there's nothing I could do
00:11:02.760 for you really. I mean, you're a hopeless case at this point. Uh, you are, you are hopelessly mindless
00:11:08.840 if you're still waiting for a guy like Fauci to give you the okay. Of course, unfortunately there,
00:11:15.100 depending on where you live, there may be a lot of things that you want to do that you actually
00:11:18.000 can't do because they have been shut down. Now I will say I, part of me laughs when I
00:11:22.740 hear stuff like this, like, um, well, you know, it's, we'll, we'll, we'll find out soon enough
00:11:29.060 when we can start doing things like indoor dining again. I've been doing indoor dining since the
00:11:33.580 spring. I took a brief pause in indoor dining because I had to, because where I live, they shut
00:11:38.740 down all the restaurants, but, uh, they opened up after about a month and I'm going out with my wife
00:11:43.640 regularly, uh, to, to go eat. And you know, it's, and if, if, if restaurants are open around you and
00:11:52.500 again, but you, you would rather sit around and, and, and still order DoorDash or whatever and pay
00:11:57.060 the extra $45 fee they tack on top of it for soggy, cold food. If you want to do that, then fine. I mean,
00:12:04.360 it's more room for the rest of us, I guess, at the restaurant, but you shouldn't be waiting
00:12:09.000 around anymore. You have, you just have to think about, and I always have to emphasize this
00:12:15.180 because it's, it's important for us to stay under for us to understand psychologically,
00:12:19.700 um, guys like Fauci, you know, this is not like some kind of conspiracy theory.
00:12:25.500 This is a basic understanding of human nature. Fauci over the last year has been given enormous
00:12:34.740 power over our everyday lives. Now in reality, in actuality, he should have no power over what any
00:12:43.060 of us do. He's not an elected official. He's not, he's not a lawmaker. He's not a law enforcement
00:12:48.840 officer. He should really have no power over us, but he's been given enormous power and also
00:12:55.820 prominence and fame. How many people knew Fauci's name before, before all this started? Now he's a
00:13:02.840 household name, household name, incredibly famous, still loved and adored, uh, by somehow by many
00:13:10.380 people and with, with incredible power. It it's even for, for people of great virtue and humility
00:13:20.980 and integrity, which I don't think any of that applies to Fauci, but even if you had all that
00:13:27.020 stuff and then you're given that kind of power and that kind of fame and that kind of recognition
00:13:32.240 and acclaim and all that is very difficult to not be corrupted by it. Number one, and also very
00:13:38.740 difficult to willingly give it up because the minute that Fauci says, okay, you know what? We
00:13:47.300 could start moving back to normal. This, uh, the virus is, is really receding. We've gotten a hold
00:13:52.880 of it now. You know, millions of people have already been infected. They're immune to it. Millions more
00:13:57.640 are getting vaccinated. And so you can go and live your, your, your daily life and you'll probably
00:14:02.220 be fine. The minute that Fauci says that, then he goes back to basic irrelevance. Nobody cares.
00:14:06.660 He's not doing the, he's not, no one's calling him in for interviews anymore. He's not, he's not
00:14:09.980 giving a press conferences that 50 million people are going to watch. He goes back to having no,
00:14:15.900 you just being a, basically a nameless bureaucrat.
00:14:18.080 I don't think he wants to give that up. And it's not just him. There are a lot of people
00:14:26.700 from Fauci's level all the way down to your local bureaucrats, you know, town halls, school boards,
00:14:34.060 all that kind of stuff. They have been given importance and power and prestige that they've
00:14:40.320 never had before. And they don't want to give it up. So always keep that in mind when you hear these
00:14:45.620 people speaking. Number two, on Monday, Virginia's state Senate passed a bill that was already
00:14:51.920 approved by the house of delegates, officially banning, this is from the daily wire, officially
00:14:55.260 banning the death penalty in the Southern state. The bill now waits to be signed into law by
00:14:59.260 democratic governor, Ralph Northam, which is expected. The bill would join Virginia with 22
00:15:04.240 other States that have voted to end capital punishment. The associated press reported that
00:15:08.640 Virginia has executed more people in its long history than any other. So now Virginia under Ralph
00:15:13.680 Northam is gearing up to ban the death penalty. It's a pretty major story, pretty major development.
00:15:23.020 And what that's going to mean is that in Virginia under Ralph Northam, and we should remember this
00:15:29.940 when we hear, well, the death penalty is abolished in Virginia. Not exactly. There's a qualifier needed
00:15:36.780 here. The death penalty is abolished in Virginia for adults. What this means is that as an adult,
00:15:43.020 you can no longer receive the death penalty, no matter what you do, you could go out, rape and
00:15:47.900 kill, kill children. And there's in Virginia, like in, like in 22 other States. Now there's nothing
00:15:53.940 that you can do that will earn you death, no matter how heinous. Um, I mean, no matter how much you send
00:16:03.800 the message to society that you don't want to be a part of it, that you don't want to be treated like a
00:16:09.620 human being, because you want to act like an animal, no matter how much you do it, society is
00:16:13.480 still going to keep you around and keep you alive and pay money too, to keep you around and keep you
00:16:17.300 alive. Um, and not just that, but, but in fact, the more heinous your crime, the more money society
00:16:28.060 has to pay to house you and keep you alive in prison because you're going to need protect. If
00:16:35.300 you, if you do something so horrible, let's say you, you rape and murder a child, it's so horrible
00:16:42.740 that even the other murderers in prison hate you for it. Well, now you need protective custody for
00:16:47.600 your whole life. That's going to cost even more money. So society has to, society has to assume the
00:16:52.100 burden, the extra burden to pay more money to keep you alive because what you did was so heinous.
00:16:59.920 So that's the situation in Virginia for adults, but children can still be executed in Virginia.
00:17:07.100 Like in all the other States, children can still receive the death penalty and due to the tune of
00:17:11.220 about a million a year. Ralph Northam famously, infamously is in favor of the death penalty for
00:17:18.020 infants, born infants. The child is born. We can make a decision about what to do with the child.
00:17:26.280 Can't do that with a, with a child murderer. We can't make any decisions there. There's no decision
00:17:29.860 to be made. I'll keep them alive. Three hot meals a day for their whole life. Uh, sort of on the same
00:17:38.200 subject here. Number three, Biden has nominated Xavier Becerra to be the new health secretary. He has no
00:17:43.420 medical background of any kind, as far as I can tell, but he's going to be health secretary for whatever
00:17:47.120 reason. The greater concern is that he's a, he's an infanticidal lunatic, um, like every other
00:17:51.800 Democrat, like Ralph Northam, like the whole democratic party. Senator Romney questioned him
00:17:56.220 yesterday in a hearing about that, about his support of infanticide, uh, partial birth abortion
00:18:00.920 specifically. And let's listen to that exchange. There's a division in our country with regards to
00:18:07.120 the issue of abortion, of course, as you know, and mainstream Republicans, mainstream Republicans or
00:18:11.620 Democrats disagree, but most people agree that partial birth abortion, uh, uh, is awful. Uh, you voted
00:18:19.880 against a ban on partial birth abortion. Why? So Senator here, um, I understand that people have
00:18:28.420 different deeply held beliefs on this issue and I respect that. Um, I have worked, as I've mentioned
00:18:36.140 for decades, trying to protect the health of men and women, young and old, uh, and as attorney general,
00:18:42.680 my job has been, uh, to follow the law and make sure others are following the law. And I'm also
00:18:49.660 sitting in front of a high risk OBGYN who for several decades had the work of protecting the health
00:18:56.980 of women and a future baby. And so I will tell you that when I come to these issues, I understand that
00:19:03.360 we may not always agree, uh, on where to go, but I think we can find some common ground on these
00:19:09.280 issues because everyone wants to make sure that if you have an opportunity, you're going to live
00:19:15.160 a healthy life. And I will tell you that I, I hope to be able to work with you and others
00:19:18.960 to reach that common ground on so many different issues. I think we can reach common ground on many
00:19:23.400 issues, but on partial birth abortion, it sounds like we, we're not going to reach a common ground
00:19:27.980 there. Yeah. I'm going to agree with Romney there. There's no common ground. And, uh, you know,
00:19:31.540 he, he, he says, I respect, I respect everyone's opinion. He didn't answer the question at all.
00:19:36.060 If you notice, the question was very simple. It wasn't a gotcha question. It wasn't trapping him
00:19:41.660 at all. He just said, Romney asked, you voted against a ban on partial birth abortion. Why?
00:19:49.320 That's the simplest question. You voted. Why'd you do that? Uh, and didn't, didn't get an answer.
00:19:54.960 No answer. Instead it's, I respect, I deeply respect the deeply held views of everyone. And I deeply
00:20:00.200 respect all the deeply, all the deep things that are happening in this deep country. Um, well,
00:20:04.600 it's nice that you respect everyone's view. I don't really believe you that you respect everyone's
00:20:07.660 views, but I'll be honest with you and tell you that I don't respect your views at all.
00:20:11.560 Um, I also don't respect you as a person, as a man at all. I don't respect you because if you get this
00:20:16.640 issue wrong, then you're not deserving of any respect at all as a human being. Okay. You are a disgrace
00:20:22.360 and a scumbag. That's what you are. You're, you're, you are, you are a terrible excuse for a man
00:20:27.200 and for an American. So I have no, I want to be really clear about that. You get this issue wrong.
00:20:33.220 I have absolutely no respect for your opinion, which is horrific and stupid. And I have no respect
00:20:39.020 for you as a horrifically stupid person. Partial birth abortion is, we talked yesterday about the
00:20:45.600 males and the females, uh, sports leagues and how that's the easiest societal question we faced.
00:20:52.900 Despite the fact that another one of Biden's nominees was saying how difficult it is. So
00:20:57.860 it's such a difficult question. All these questions they find so difficult. Well, I might have to amend
00:21:02.060 my statement. I said, that's, I said the, the, the female sport thing is the ease is actually is in
00:21:06.000 fact the easiest societal question we've ever faced. Um, I'll amend that and say actually partial birth
00:21:10.980 abortion or really abortion generally, especially partial birth abortion is the easiest question
00:21:16.980 in partial birth abortion. You're, you're taking a child who is in the process of being born. This is
00:21:26.760 a fully developed child, an infant. Okay. You can't hide behind embryo here. It's not an embryo. This
00:21:35.280 is a fully developed infant. You take any, any, any newborn child you've seen in the lovingly cradled
00:21:41.000 child in its mother's arms. That's what the child looks like in the partial birth abortion
00:21:45.320 in the process of being born. And you are murdering that child as it emerges from the birth canal
00:21:50.740 and you're doing it in the birth canal on a technicality because you know that once it's once,
00:21:56.420 once the child emerges from the birth canal, uh, now it will legally count as infanticide unless
00:22:01.020 guys like Ralph Northam get their way, in which case, even then you can go, which really by the
00:22:05.240 logic of late term abortion, you may as well kill children who are five days older, five months
00:22:10.620 old or five years old because morally there's no difference. And you can't hide behind any excuses
00:22:19.360 about it's the woman's body woman. The baby is in the process of leaving the woman's body.
00:22:26.220 So even if I, even if I bought into your bodily autonomy arguments for abortion, which I don't,
00:22:32.180 but even if I did, that's out the window, the child's in the process of being born. He's not going
00:22:37.280 to be in your body anymore. The question is, are you going to kill that child a second before it's
00:22:42.300 born? Are you going to take the extra step of killing that child before it's born? If you do,
00:22:48.540 and if you are in favor of that, you're, you're simply in favor of murder. That's it. You are in
00:22:53.200 favor of murdering a baby because it's an inconvenience to society, to the mother, whatever.
00:22:57.540 And yeah. So, I mean, call me crazy, but if you, if you think it's, there is ever a scenario where
00:23:07.420 it could be okay to suck the brains out of a baby, then I don't respect you or your opinion.
00:23:16.840 And I think, you know, that your opinion is not worthy of respect, which is why you won't defend it.
00:23:23.380 You can't defend it. And you know it.
00:23:29.520 All right, let's go, uh, number four here. You heard a lot about the kids in cages during Trump's
00:23:35.220 term. That was obviously a ridiculous false narrative, talking about false narratives,
00:23:40.300 uh, police shootings. I think that's number one on the list of false narratives from the media,
00:23:45.620 but kids in cages, the only reason that isn't number one is because the consequences of that lie
00:23:51.640 have not been nearly as dire as the consequences of the police shooting lie as a simple lie.
00:23:58.720 And one of the reasons that you knew it was a lie from the beginning when the left was going on about
00:24:03.060 kids in cages and how worried they are about it and, and, and all of that. One of the reasons you
00:24:07.860 knew it was a lie is it goes back to what we were just discussed that there's no way these people
00:24:14.440 actually give a damn anyway. And that's a, that's a, a, a hint for everybody. Anytime someone on the
00:24:22.540 left is pretending to care about children, you know, something is up because they don't actually
00:24:27.180 care. There's got, there's something else going on here. Something is wrong. Anytime someone on the
00:24:33.440 left is pretending to care about children. And probably what they're saying is completely bogus
00:24:38.700 as it was here. So, uh, the kids in cage narrative was, was bogus. Um, and, but it was pushed by the
00:24:46.040 media and Democrats and Biden himself. Interesting thing now though, is that Biden himself is keeping
00:24:51.220 migrant kids in the same places that Trump was keeping them. Jen Psaki was asked about this, uh,
00:24:57.560 at a press conference. And here's how that went. And to ensure the health and safety of these kids,
00:25:03.040 HHS took steps to open an emergency facility to add capacity where these children can be
00:25:08.520 provided the care they need while they are safely before they are safely placed with families and
00:25:13.000 sponsors. So it's a temporary reopening during COVID-19. Our intention is very much to close it,
00:25:18.980 but we want to ensure that we can follow COVID COVID protocols, uh, as we, uh, as we, as unaccompanied
00:25:25.240 minors come into the United States. But it's the same facility that was open for a month in the
00:25:29.460 Trump administration, summer 2019. That is when Joe Biden said under Trump, there have been horrifying
00:25:35.420 scenes at the border of kids being kept in cages. And Kamala Harris said, uh, basically babies in
00:25:41.020 cages is a human rights abuse being committed by the United States government. So how is this any
00:25:46.400 different than that? We very much feel that way. Uh, and these, these are facilities. Let me be,
00:25:51.300 let me be clear here. One, there's a pandemic going on. I'm sure you're not suggesting that we have
00:25:56.380 children right next to each other, uh, in ways that are not COVID safe. Are you?
00:26:00.980 I'm suggesting that Kamala Harris said that this facility, putting people in this facility was a
00:26:07.080 human rights abuse committed by the United States government. And Jill Biden said under Trump,
00:26:12.380 there have been horrifying scenes of border, uh, at the border of kids being kept in cages. Now it's
00:26:17.540 not under Trump. It's under Biden. This is not kids being kept in cages. This is, this is kids.
00:26:23.680 This is a facility that was opened. That's going to follow the same standards as other HHS facilities.
00:26:29.420 It is not a replication. Certainly not though. That's, that is never our intention of replicating
00:26:35.040 the immigration policies of the past administration. Okay. All right. Well,
00:26:40.440 we'll find that nevermind. They're not cages. They're facilities now. You see, there's a clear
00:26:47.520 difference. It's exactly the same situation, the exact same place. Everything's the same,
00:26:52.000 but, uh, not cages. They're facilities. That's all. Yeah. Well, they were facilities all along
00:26:59.980 and yes, that's, see, that's, that's the point. Um, and that's why this, the tricky thing you run
00:27:08.140 into anytime you're trying to hold Democrats to their own standard or to the standards that they've
00:27:12.660 applied to you, because we can, we can criticize Biden for this immigration policy because he criticized
00:27:20.860 Trump for the same and mischaracterized it and lied about it. But we're not saying that what's
00:27:27.400 happening right now was wrong. Like, of course the kids are here, especially if they're unaccompanied,
00:27:32.940 you know, what else are you going to do? Just send them off into the wild world by themselves.
00:27:40.080 You have to, when, when people are coming here and especially if they're coming here illegally,
00:27:45.540 you got to do something. And if we're talking about kids, you have to have a place for them.
00:27:54.200 And we also know to complicate matters that, um, that oftentimes the adults with the children may
00:28:01.940 pose as parents, but oftentimes are not actually the parents. This could be a trafficking situation.
00:28:08.760 You don't know. You don't know. You have no way of knowing this is the situation that, you know,
00:28:15.480 the, the, the, the law enforcement officials, immigration officials are put in because of the
00:28:21.580 decision to, you know, among illegal immigrants to do that, to commit that crime and to involve kids in
00:28:29.900 it. So there's no perfect answer. There's, there's, there's, there's a lot of times there's no happy
00:28:37.640 conclusion. You have to do something and it makes sense to have, yes, facilities. So we're not
00:28:44.140 criticizing that. However, we also can't let you get away with this without pointing out what you're
00:28:51.740 doing. So that's the, um, that's the balancing act that we always find ourselves in when dealing
00:28:57.560 with the hypocrisy of the left. Number five, finally, I thought this was fantastic. Some cops
00:29:01.940 in Pakistan have adopted a new crime fighting strategy, which is rollerblading. We have the
00:29:08.160 video here. Let's play some of this video of the rollerblading cops. Um, and there's some cool,
00:29:13.420 there's like some cool eighties music that goes with it. Just, just, just perfect music for this.
00:29:19.000 Almost perfect music. I think what we really need is maybe, is maybe something, something nineties,
00:29:25.160 maybe ace of base, even limp biscuit. And, uh, but they're rollerblading. One cop pulls his gun out
00:29:34.420 while they're, while they're rollerblading. What I want to see now is what I want to see now is a gang
00:29:41.160 of criminals on skateboards. So we can have a rollerblade versus skateboard battle. That's what I
00:29:47.740 actually want to see. It's become like a movie or something. There's the music, a movie that I might
00:29:54.800 have written in fourth grade. The other thing that's missing here with these rollerblading cops
00:29:58.900 is, um, walk, walk mans. I'm not sure if the plural is supposed to be walk man or walk mans.
00:30:03.460 I was never sure, but, uh, you know, the walk man cassette player that I had when I was in fourth
00:30:07.220 grade, maybe fanny packs. I don't know, but this is great. I don't know. How do you take a cop
00:30:15.200 seriously? I have enough trouble taking the cops seriously on bikes. I understand the bike cop thing.
00:30:20.720 I mean, it's a practical solution, especially in the city. Um, it's hard though, to take someone
00:30:26.680 seriously as a, you know, as a, as a, as a figure of authority when they're on a bike with a bike
00:30:31.480 helmet and in rollerblades, it makes it even worse, but I appreciate creative, you know, ingenuity is
00:30:39.020 what we need in law enforcement. So that's great. All right, let's move on now to reading the YouTube
00:30:43.460 comments. Here are some comments from the show yesterday, uh, from username history and headlines.
00:30:48.500 He says, it's pretty, pretty clear that what happened over the summer was domestic terrorism.
00:30:52.920 Yeah. Pretty clear to you and I, to the guy that's going to be the attorney general though,
00:30:56.920 um, Merrick Garland, not, not very clear at all because as we learned yesterday and he,
00:31:01.980 and he actually said this, this is not me. It's not hyperbole. I'm not exaggerating,
00:31:05.600 not a straw man. He actually said that domestic terrorism at night doesn't count. It might still
00:31:12.880 be a crime, but it's not domestic terrorism because you do it at night. Um,
00:31:16.740 Jenny V says came for Shapiro, but now it's all about Matt. When will we see you do more shows
00:31:23.900 or longer shows? Well, I'm, I do five shows a week. We put out content on Saturdays too.
00:31:30.620 I am doing longer shows. Like the shows are 45 minutes to 50 minutes at this point. What more
00:31:34.680 do you want from me, Jenny? What more do you want from me? What else can I do for you? Back off.
00:31:41.160 But thanks for watching. Uh, floor Saza says, Matt, you're pretty damn sexy with big guns and
00:31:48.940 a fantastic beard. Oh, you're also a great chef chef. You know, I don't like being catcalled and
00:31:54.440 there's far too much of that happening in the comments I've noticed. Actually, I do like being
00:31:58.820 catcalled. Let's be honest about it. Getting catcalled is great. I don't know why women complain
00:32:03.100 about it. It's what's, what's the problem. People are saying complimenting you. I don't
00:32:09.120 have an issue with it. You can compliment me all you want. Um, let's see. Nicholas says,
00:32:14.880 okay, let's get to more serious topics. When is your Easter candy review? Well, I don't have
00:32:20.200 much of a review for Easter candy. I'm in favor of giving people freedom to eat whatever candy
00:32:24.480 they want on Easter, unless it's Peeps or the big jelly beans. So only the small gourmet jelly
00:32:30.140 beans are acceptable. Um, they're the only ones worth a damn big jelly beans can go to hell.
00:32:34.720 Peeps can go to hell. And if you eat those things, you can too. That was a little strong.
00:32:39.420 I'll back up a little bit. I won't, I won't wish eternal damnation on you for eating the bigger
00:32:43.200 jelly beans, but seriously get better taste. And finally, Wayne says, Hey Matt, love the show.
00:32:48.220 Been listening to it since March of last year. I'm from Namibia and here there's a lot of trophy
00:32:52.480 hunting. Yes, you're right. The meat does go to the local locals in the area. There are small shops
00:32:57.580 that clean up the skins, horns, and heads of these animals. And they get money as a result.
00:33:02.180 It shows that people in the West know nothing about trophy hunting and it's, um, and it's
00:33:06.480 benefits to the local community here. Firstly, all hunts are documented and highly regulated by
00:33:11.040 the government. It's like people think that others just come here and shoot animals that were in a
00:33:14.940 park or something. No, there's immense regulation. It's quite expensive. And each head of something like
00:33:20.020 a giraffe could be up to a hundred thousand dollars. Uh, these shootings usually happen in a
00:33:23.940 conservation farms owned by commercial farmers. And this is one of the driving forces of tourism
00:33:28.740 and conservation in my country specifically. Well, even though I don't know a lot about
00:33:33.500 trophy hunting, I said yesterday that I suspect it's probably okay because of the way that it
00:33:37.300 benefits the people in that region. And based on your knowledge, uh, in Namibia, Wayne, I will say
00:33:43.280 that, uh, yeah, I'm, I, I will officially declare that I am firmly in the camp of pro trophy hunting.
00:33:50.140 I am totally in favor of it. If it benefits people, you know, if we're using animals in a way,
00:33:56.660 uh, where we're not being like reckless and destructive for its own sake, but we're using
00:34:01.700 them in a way that benefits people and people who need that benefit, you know, people who need the
00:34:06.640 food, especially need the money. So we think about the people that depend on the food and the money
00:34:12.100 from the tourism for, for trophy hunting. If we were to take that away because Westerners,
00:34:19.360 it makes their tummies hurt when they see pictures of giraffes laying dead. Um, you know,
00:34:25.820 we take that away and it, it, it, it harms people. So I'm not in favor of that.
00:34:30.420 Kill all the giraffes you want, but you know, do it in the way that benefits people.
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00:37:24.340 So today we are canceling the chief of the Cherokee nation, Chuck Hoskin Jr. It appears that
00:37:35.460 Chuck has decided that it's time for a Jeep to stop using the Cherokee name on its Jeep Cherokees,
00:37:41.560 which have been on the market under that label for something like 40 years. Chuck is concerned
00:37:45.780 that Jeep has appropriated the Cherokee name. Now I'm tempted to say that if Jeep has to give back
00:37:51.200 that name, Cherokee, then I think Chuck has to give the name Chuck back to us white people.
00:37:58.280 But I'm not going to say that. I'm tempted to say it, but I'm not saying it. Instead,
00:38:02.640 let's just listen to the Cherokee chief himself explain his reasoning such as it is. Here it is.
00:38:07.560 Listen. Today in 2021, as chief of the Cherokee nation, I am saying categorically that I think
00:38:13.000 it's wrong to use our name to peddle a vehicle. For most people, tribes don't even maybe seem real.
00:38:21.200 In terms of their experience, seeing something in history and naming something after something in
00:38:27.540 history probably doesn't feel too bad, particularly if it engenders some strong, positive emotions.
00:38:34.620 But I think in this year, 2021, we ought to be talking about the fact that tribes are still here.
00:38:41.160 We're vibrant. We do a great deal for our people and our communities and that our names mean something.
00:38:46.080 And they've been here a lot longer than the Jeep company and other corporations that have seized our
00:38:52.480 name for profit. Is there some way that Jeep could use that name that you'd be fine with it?
00:38:58.540 Well, there's no way that they could use the name that I would be fine with it. It certainly doesn't
00:39:02.580 honor us by using that name. And it was surely never intended to.
00:39:07.160 Now, just to clarify here, if you're listening to the audio podcast, that was not Ted Cruz. I know
00:39:12.620 it sounds exactly like it. I mean, exactly like it. It does. But I don't want you to have conjured
00:39:18.160 in your head an image of Ted Cruz in a Native American headdress pretending to be a tribal chief.
00:39:23.700 There's already one person in the U.S. Senate pretending to be Native American. We don't need
00:39:26.500 another. So that was not Ted Cruz. No, that was, in fact, Chuck Hoskin Jr. And you heard his reasoning.
00:39:32.000 It could be summarized, I think, in three key points. Number one, it's the year 2021. Number
00:39:38.620 two, it's wrong to use the Cherokee name to pedal a vehicle. And number three, the Cherokee tribe still
00:39:44.420 exists. So those are his three reasons. I think I'm fairly summarizing them, right? Now, I would
00:39:50.140 respond to those points this way. Number one, that's not an argument. Number two, that's not an
00:39:56.060 argument either. And number three, neither is that. None of those are arguments.
00:40:00.900 The fact that it's the current year and not some other year does not itself explain why
00:40:06.320 any course of action is wrong or right. Indeed, it is always the current year. That's the crazy
00:40:11.720 thing. It has never been anything but the current year. There has never been a time when people
00:40:16.120 have lived in a year that was not the current year. Like, yeah, it's 2021 and people are living
00:40:22.980 in 2021 and not in, you know, 2007. But in 2007, they lived in 2007 and not 1982. That's the way it
00:40:30.460 works. None of this even begins to explain why Jeep shouldn't put the name Cherokee on some of its
00:40:37.420 vehicles. Also, simply stating that it's wrong to use the Cherokee name to pedal a vehicle doesn't
00:40:42.920 explain why it's wrong. That's the assertion. That's the proposition you're trying to defend.
00:40:48.520 You can't defend it by saying it and restating it over and over and again using slightly different
00:40:54.160 words. This is something that people nowadays don't seem to understand, especially on the
00:40:56.980 internet. An assertion is not an argument. The argument is what you present to defend or explain
00:41:06.580 the assertion. It's not like it's self-evident. It's not at all evident to me why it's inherently wrong
00:41:12.820 to use the name of a tribe to sell a vehicle. It's just a name after all. Names are fluid things.
00:41:18.060 They're used in different ways. They take on different meanings. You'd think that a culture
00:41:21.540 that wants everything to be fluid, wants even biological reality to be fluid, could understand
00:41:26.660 that names really are fluid. Gender is not fluid. Names actually are. That's one of the reasons why
00:41:33.280 if a man claims to be a woman and says, my name is Susan, I'll call him Susan because a name,
00:41:40.720 you can pick whatever name you want. Now, I'm not going to pretend that you're a woman because you're not
00:41:45.840 and you can't pick whatever gender you want. So names are fluid. And I'm sure if I go back far
00:41:52.600 enough, I can find a time when the Cherokee weren't even called the Cherokee. What we're
00:41:58.520 seeing here is this very weird dynamic wherein representation is considered so important. It's
00:42:03.700 an urgent necessity to make sure that minority groups are portrayed, named, mentioned, shown all
00:42:08.920 the time everywhere. But at the same time, the very same people fighting for representation also are
00:42:15.880 fighting to remove representation. It's a victory for minority groups to be represented. It's also
00:42:22.060 somehow a victory that Native American groups are less represented in general culture today than they
00:42:26.860 were a year ago. So which is it? Are we supposed to be representing or not? The only way to make sense
00:42:34.020 of this seeming contradiction is to see the Native American identity and the names associated with
00:42:39.780 it as somehow specially sacred and deserving of reverence. You know, there's nothing insulting
00:42:47.340 about the Jeep Cherokee. There was nothing insulting about the Native American woman that was used on the
00:42:52.540 Lando Lakes butter containers. The only way to see this stuff as inappropriate is to ascribe an almost
00:42:58.840 mystical quality to the Native American identity. But it's not mystical or sacred or deserving of any
00:43:05.940 sort of religious reverence. Native Americans are people. We put all kinds of people and names on
00:43:14.240 cars, sports teams, helmets, product packaging, etc. There's no reason why Native Americans should be
00:43:20.440 exempt from that. So the only logical response then to Chuck in this case is to say, dude, get over
00:43:27.300 yourself. Just get over yourself. But we all know that is not the response that he's going to
00:43:33.560 receive. In fact, Jeep, in response to this totally manufactured controversy, said, quote,
00:43:39.220 our vehicle names have been carefully chosen and nurtured over the years to honor and celebrate Native
00:43:43.340 American people for their nobility, prowess and pride. We are more than ever committed to a respectful
00:43:48.540 and open dialogue with the Cherokee Nation Principal Chief Chuck Hoskin Jr. Uh-oh, the open dialogue.
00:43:55.700 We all know where this is headed. I mean, there should be no dialogue. They should say to Chuck,
00:44:02.340 yeah, we aren't going to talk about that because it's stupid. That should be it. That should be the
00:44:06.280 beginning and end of their statement. But they're open to a dialogue, which means that within six
00:44:11.980 months, we're going to get the big announcement that Jeep is helping to end racism by erasing yet
00:44:16.360 another cultural reference to Native Americans. Hooray. I'm certain that this is where that that is where
00:44:22.800 this is going to go. Uh, and for that reason, I am canceling Jeep too, preemptively. I won't even
00:44:29.000 give them a chance. They are canceled. Chuck is canceled. Ted Cruz is canceled in case that really
00:44:34.980 was him. Everyone is canceled. And that'll do it for us today. Thanks for listening. Thanks for
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