The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 68 - Child Abuse In The Guise Of 'Gender Neutral Parenting'

00:00:00.000 Maybe you have heard about the new trend in terrible parenting.

00:00:04.940 It's called theybes.

00:00:06.520 This is the label that certain white upper-class liberal parents have given to their children

00:00:13.620 who they want to raise gender-neutral.

00:00:15.760 They want gender-neutral children without gender labels.

00:00:19.340 They said, down with labels, no more labels.

00:00:22.500 And then they proceeded to invent a new label, which is theybes.

00:00:26.240 So, no, we don't want any labels whatsoever, except for these over here that we've just

00:00:31.120 invented off the top of our heads.

00:00:32.640 There's an NBC article about this trend, and it's gotten some attention.

00:00:36.360 It focuses especially on the stories of Nate and Julia Sharp, who are—well, actually,

00:00:42.580 let me just—I'll read a little bit from this article, just so you understand what

00:00:46.320 we're dealing with here, to kind of set the stage a little bit.

00:00:49.940 Let me read from this article on NBC.

00:00:51.640 It says, three-year-old twins, Zyler and Caden, scurried around the boy and girl's

00:00:59.700 clothing racks of a narrow consignment store filled with toys.

00:01:03.340 Zyler, wearing rainbow leggings, scrutinized a pair of hot pink and purple sneakers.

00:01:09.260 Zayden, in a T-Rex shirt, fixated on a musical cube that flashed colorful lights.

00:01:13.480 At a glance, the only discernible difference between these fraternal twins is their hair.

00:01:17.800 Zyler's is brown and Caden's is blonde.

00:01:19.420 Is Zyler a boy or a girl?

00:01:21.360 How about Caden?

00:01:22.420 That's a question their parents, Nate and Julia Sharp, say only the twins can decide.

00:01:27.400 The couple from Cambridge, Massachusetts, of course, represent a small group of parents

00:01:33.140 raising theybes, children being brought up without gender designation from birth.

00:01:38.180 Nate Sharp told NBC News, a theybe is, I think, different things to different people. 0.98

00:01:43.180 For us, it means raising our kids with gender-neutral pronouns, so they, them, their, rather than 1.00

00:01:50.200 assigning he, she, him, her from birth based on their anatomy.

00:01:54.560 Let's pause right there for just a moment, okay?

00:01:56.720 I don't mean to interrupt Mr. Nate Sharp, but they, their, them, those are pronouns that

00:02:07.100 you have assigned.

00:02:07.980 So you're saying, well, we're not going to assign he or she, so instead we're going to

00:02:12.580 assign, assign they and them?

00:02:15.200 You still assigned pronouns, you nitwit.

00:02:18.440 It's exactly what you're doing.

00:02:19.920 You just assigned different pronouns.

00:02:22.440 And actually, he and she are not assigned by anyone any more than your biological sex is

00:02:29.240 assigned.

00:02:30.260 This whole idea of assigned sex.

00:02:33.020 What do you mean assigned?

00:02:34.080 Where is sex?

00:02:34.960 Where, where is that happening?

00:02:37.280 Okay, it's not like you've got a bunch of ambiguous, neutral babies being born, and then

00:02:43.140 they're all laying out in a nursery, and then you've got doctors that come by and go, we're

00:02:47.460 going to assign him boy, make that one a girl, we'll just do two girls over there, we'll do 1.00

00:02:52.000 that one a boy, no, you know, actually not, well, let's make that one a girl, that one

00:02:54.820 a boy.

00:02:55.380 And, all right, so then we got two girls. 1.00

00:02:57.560 No, that's not what's happening.

00:02:58.460 That is not, there's no, there's no sex assignment ward in the birthing center of the hospital.

00:03:07.740 That doesn't have, see, what happens is you've got boys and girls who are born, and then the

00:03:12.900 doctors will look at them and say, oh, that's a boy, or oh, that's a girl.

00:03:18.160 And then linguistically, there are certain pronouns that come attached to that naturally as part

00:03:24.480 of our language.

00:03:25.240 It's not a sign.

00:03:26.740 What you're doing here, Nate Sharp, is you are actually assigning, artificially, a pronoun

00:03:32.800 that would not otherwise, that is not natural to the child.

00:03:40.000 Going back to the article, parents in the U.S. are increasingly raising children outside

00:03:44.120 traditional gender norms, allowing boys and girls to play with the same toys.

00:03:48.900 I love it how these enlightened liberal parents, they think they're the only ones to ever, to

00:03:55.020 ever dream up this idea of allowing boys and girls to play with the same toys.

00:04:00.440 Like, what do they think?

00:04:01.640 What do they think the rest of us are doing?

00:04:04.200 Do they think that we, if our, you know, if your son picks up one of his, one of your

00:04:10.380 daughter's toys, or if your daughter picks up one of your son's toys, do they think that

00:04:14.240 you're going, hey, put that down?

00:04:15.620 No, no, put it, drop it, drop it right there.

00:04:18.300 Drop it.

00:04:19.560 Drop it, son, or you're going to, you'll turn into a girl. 1.00

00:04:21.920 Put it down.

00:04:22.400 Is that what they think's happening?

00:04:25.620 No, because kids playing with all the same toys, that happens in every house in America.

00:04:30.340 That has always happened.

00:04:31.400 It's a totally normal thing.

00:04:33.340 So you didn't come up with that concept.

00:04:35.940 Most of us normal folks, normal parents, we have always been fine with our kids basically

00:04:42.860 playing with whatever toy they wanted to play with.

00:04:45.220 But that never caused any confusion for us.

00:04:49.040 If we had seen our daughter pick up a Tonka truck, we would say, oh, our daughter's playing 0.98

00:04:55.220 with a Tonka truck.

00:04:56.040 That's fine.

00:04:56.820 We didn't then say, she must be a boy.

00:05:00.020 No, we didn't do that.

00:05:01.580 We just said, oh, that's a girl who likes Tonka trucks. 1.00

00:05:04.440 And then we continued on with our life.

00:05:06.920 Actually, I won't go back to the article.

00:05:08.380 Anyway, you get to the point.

00:05:09.960 You get the point.

00:05:10.600 There is one other detail in this article that I should mention that they are, so Nate

00:05:14.840 and Julia, part of this Davies thing is that the parents hide the biological sex from, not

00:05:21.620 only from society, but they hide it from the kids themselves.

00:05:26.000 They don't tell the kids what they are.

00:05:30.240 So they, the kids, are aware of their own body parts, obviously, but they have not been

00:05:35.200 told what those parts mean.

00:05:37.080 They don't know their own identities.

00:05:41.860 Nate and Julia are keeping that secret under lock and key until the, until the kids get

00:05:47.460 to the point where Nate and Julia have decided they're old enough to decide their own gender,

00:05:52.780 which I think is most of these parents will say around four or five is when they can decide

00:05:58.000 their own gender.

00:05:58.940 So at the age of four, they're still not old enough to make a peanut butter and jelly sandwich

00:06:03.500 by themselves.

00:06:04.520 They probably don't know how to tie their shoes.

00:06:06.380 They're certainly not old enough to stay home alone by themselves.

00:06:10.240 They can't drive a car.

00:06:11.800 They can't vote.

00:06:12.800 They can't, they can't do anything for themselves at all.

00:06:17.780 I mean, they can probably barely even manage to get their shirts on in the morning without,

00:06:22.580 without, without help from their parents.

00:06:24.480 Yet we're going to give them this enormous power to us to come up with their own genders. 1.00

00:06:30.880 Right.

00:06:31.120 That makes a lot of sense.

00:06:31.960 Now, of course, we run into some logical problems here.

00:06:36.480 There are a lot of logical problems, but let's just focus on a few of them.

00:06:40.580 If, and we talked about this in, on a show last week, I forget in what context, but let's

00:06:47.820 go back to it for just a second.

00:06:49.000 If, if, if biological sex is meaningless and gender is just a social construct, then what

00:06:58.480 does it mean to say that someone is choosing a gender?

00:07:04.060 What does that mean?

00:07:05.500 What are you choosing?

00:07:06.740 Gender is art. 1.00

00:07:08.680 We all agree that you cannot choose sex.

00:07:11.240 I hope we agree with that.

00:07:13.860 Biological sex cannot be chosen, but you can choose gender.

00:07:17.840 Yet you're saying that gender is an arbitrary invented thing.

00:07:21.840 So what does it mean to choose it?

00:07:23.160 What do you talk?

00:07:23.900 What exactly are you choosing?

00:07:26.720 What's the meaning of choosing this meaningless thing?

00:07:30.440 And on what basis is the choice being made?

00:07:34.920 So if a, if a boy chooses to be a girl based on his affinity for girly things, because in

00:07:43.700 every case I've ever heard of, when you hear these parents who say, oh yeah, my, he was

00:07:48.480 born biological boy, but he's my daughter now.

00:07:50.800 And then they start to tell their stories, the reason that they give or the, the indications

00:07:58.920 that they give for, oh, this is when we realized that he was a girl.

00:08:02.060 It always involves, oh, he liked to put on dresses or he liked to play with Barbie dolls.

00:08:06.660 Every single time.

00:08:07.900 That's what it is.

00:08:08.580 It's, it's, it is, they discovered in their son in affinity for traditionally girly things.

00:08:14.600 So if you decide or your child decides that he's a girl based on his affinity for girly

00:08:21.060 things, have you not just reinforced the very, very societal construct that you're supposedly

00:08:27.940 trying to abolish?

00:08:29.740 And if the child makes the decision that he's a girl based on nothing, based not even on

00:08:36.900 an affinity for girly things, then hasn't the word girl lost all meaning?

00:08:41.720 Isn't the word girl now just another word for boy?

00:08:45.920 I think if, if someone is going to say, oh, I am a girl, then they have to be able to follow

00:08:51.660 that up with a because.

00:08:53.380 So I'm a girl because fill in the blank, right?

00:08:59.400 And if you can't fill in the blank with the because, then I'm a girl means absolutely nothing.

00:09:05.300 But if you can fill it in with some kind of because, some kind of reason, then the word

00:09:10.840 girl has to have some kind of meaning.

00:09:13.160 But if the word girl and the word boy do have meaning, then the choice must be based on something

00:09:18.920 objective and meaningful.

00:09:20.500 You can't have it both ways.

00:09:22.000 And if it's based on something objective and meaningful, then gender is not a societal

00:09:25.740 construct.

00:09:26.400 It is, in fact, something ingrained.

00:09:28.660 You see what's, you see what I'm saying here?

00:09:30.840 There's a, this doesn't make any sense at all.

00:09:34.260 No sense.

00:09:35.040 Also, another problem.

00:09:38.960 If you haven't told your children anything about boy and girl, and they haven't learned

00:09:45.720 to associate those words with anything in particular, then what in the world does it mean for them

00:09:51.820 to choose between the two?

00:09:53.780 They don't even know what that is.

00:09:55.940 So let's, so little Zeiler, poor kid, has no concept of boy and girl at all.

00:10:03.540 He's, he's, none.

00:10:04.660 He doesn't have any idea what those things mean.

00:10:06.780 And then at the age of four, the parents are going to go to them and say, what are you,

00:10:09.720 a boy or a girl?

00:10:10.940 And he's going to say, whatever he says, what, it means nothing.

00:10:15.100 You may as well go up to him and say, um, hey, Zeiler, what are you, a gobbledygook or

00:10:20.300 a bloopity blah?

00:10:21.840 Which one?

00:10:23.380 Oh, he says he's a bloopity blah.

00:10:25.620 That's his identity.

00:10:26.760 His identity is bloopity blah.

00:10:28.280 Everyone respect it.

00:10:29.520 This is the, his, his, his, his, his, his natural identity.

00:10:34.280 He's discovered it.

00:10:35.880 But these are, I could go on for, for hours, um, with the logical fallacies here, but the

00:10:44.080 real problem is not one of logic.

00:10:47.520 It's one of just basic ethics and morality.

00:10:50.660 There's a more, a very serious moral problem here where Nate and Julia, in an effort to

00:10:57.000 show off to their liberal friends, have deprived their children of identity.

00:11:02.440 And I really do believe this is, I would like to say for their benefit to be generous to

00:11:07.680 Nate and Julia, I would like to say that these, that, that they are just crazy, insane

00:11:12.260 people who are not intellectually capable of understanding the logical contradictions

00:11:18.300 that I have just outlined, but no, apparently they are mechanical engineers, upper-class mechanical

00:11:25.440 engineers.

00:11:26.140 These are people with brains in their heads and they must possess the ability to understand

00:11:32.240 logic and understand how ideas and things all fit together.

00:11:37.440 So they must be smart enough to understand that this whole thing makes no sense whatsoever.

00:11:42.980 They're just trying to show off.

00:11:44.160 It's for their own sake.

00:11:45.380 It's selfishness.

00:11:46.280 These parents that do this, it is total selfishness.

00:11:50.480 And that's all it is.

00:11:51.920 They're using their kids as like these fashion statements.

00:11:56.980 And they're saying to all their friends, aren't we so fashionable?

00:11:59.460 We have gender neutral children.

00:12:01.340 We're so fashionable.

00:12:03.160 Yeah, you're very fashionable.

00:12:04.560 And the price of you making a fashion statement is that you are destroying and ruining your kids

00:12:10.240 on an elemental level.

00:12:12.420 Like you're getting right down to the core of who your kids are and just obliterating it.

00:12:18.320 That's what you're doing.

00:12:19.820 You're not freeing them from artificial cultural influences by raising them neutrally.

00:12:26.200 Rather, you are overriding those influences by imposing a much more artificial, much more confusing,

00:12:33.800 and much more damaging one.

00:12:36.440 So it is easy.

00:12:37.120 Look, it's easy to kind of laugh at something like babies and to laugh at these parents.

00:12:44.880 But it's not really funny what's happening here.

00:12:49.040 This is psychological child abuse of the most demented kind.

00:12:54.880 This is deranged.

00:12:56.980 They're robbing their children of identity.

00:12:59.860 They're robbing their children of even the most basic knowledge of their own selves.

00:13:05.620 Knowledge that they need in order to decide what they want to do and who they want to be

00:13:10.520 and where they want to go in life.

00:13:13.160 They're taking that away from them.

00:13:16.200 You may as well refuse to tell your children what species they belong to or what planet they live on.

00:13:22.620 This is just the most basic information about themselves, about their relation to the world,

00:13:30.020 about their place in the order of things.

00:13:33.600 The most basic information, like the kind of information that non-abusive parents will start with.

00:13:41.400 Like this is, for normal non-abusive parents,

00:13:44.940 one of the first things your kid learns about himself is his sex.

00:13:49.740 One of the first things he learns is, I'm a boy or I'm a girl.

00:13:55.080 Because that's just basic information that you need about who you are.

00:14:00.320 And these parents are taking that from their kids. 0.72

00:14:04.100 This is a social experiment.

00:14:06.200 Like, what if we raise kids through the first part of their formative years

00:14:11.280 without telling them anything about themselves whatsoever?

00:14:14.560 What will happen then?

00:14:15.540 And then they're going to just sit back and see, well, let's see what happens.

00:14:21.200 Nothing good.

00:14:22.160 I can tell you that.

00:14:24.160 The thing is, you could have, especially in low-income areas,

00:14:26.820 this is what really infuriates me.

00:14:29.620 Particularly in low-income areas,

00:14:31.700 you could have Child Protective Services knocking on your door

00:14:34.560 if you so much as spank your children.

00:14:36.920 If somebody hears of you spanking your kid 1.00

00:14:39.320 or if you yell at your kid in public or something like that,

00:14:41.500 you could have CPS knocking on your door.

00:14:43.080 Yet these people are turning their kids into social experience,

00:14:47.780 experiments.

00:14:49.260 They're hiding essential biological truths from their children.

00:14:53.100 They're depriving their children of identity.

00:14:55.720 They are force-feeding mental illness into their kids.

00:15:01.160 And rather than a visit from CPS,

00:15:05.120 they're going to get a profile on NBC.

00:15:06.920 It is really unthinkable and awful and just disgusting.

00:15:14.420 It's child abuse, and that's what we need to call it. 0.99

00:15:18.140 I think we need to be,

00:15:19.820 we need to start putting our foot down about this kind of stuff.

00:15:23.460 You and I, as normal human beings,

00:15:27.680 we need to put our foot down and say,

00:15:30.500 it's not just like,

00:15:31.360 oh, we disagree with that parenting style. 0.99

00:15:35.460 It's, no, you are ruining your kids. 0.59

00:15:37.460 You are abusive.

00:15:38.720 You are unfit parents.

00:15:40.440 What you're doing to your children is unthinkable and evil.

00:15:45.520 And it should be illegal.

00:15:48.420 That's what this should be.

00:15:49.660 This is the worst kind of psychological abuse I have ever heard of.

00:15:55.040 That's how bad it is.

00:15:56.240 And that's what we need to start saying.

00:15:59.320 Now, I'm going to switch gears here.

00:16:02.140 So that's, I've said all I can say about that.

00:16:04.620 I'm sure we'll revisit again in the future.

00:16:07.360 If you listen to the show,

00:16:09.040 you know that I will sometimes deviate from the topic

00:16:13.740 and get into entirely irrelevant rants about subjects

00:16:18.460 that, frankly, aren't even interesting.

00:16:20.940 And usually I do that at the very beginning of the show.

00:16:23.920 I've decided to move it to the end.

00:16:26.780 And so this will be a new segment

00:16:28.400 that I call random things I'm talking about.

00:16:34.600 I need to think of a name for it.

00:16:35.940 But anyway, let's, we'll put that on the back burner.

00:16:39.040 All right, here's the thing.

00:16:40.960 We need to talk about elevators.

00:16:44.500 There are some basic things about elevators

00:16:46.680 that I think everyone,

00:16:47.760 I thought everyone in society understands,

00:16:49.740 but apparently they don't.

00:16:51.300 I was traveling last week.

00:16:52.800 I was staying at a hotel

00:16:54.840 and I had a pretty horrific experience on an elevator.

00:16:58.740 Here's what happened.

00:17:00.560 I boarded the elevator in the lobby

00:17:02.760 and then another person also boarded.

00:17:06.200 And that's not the horrific experience,

00:17:07.920 although that obviously is pretty horrific in and of itself.

00:17:11.400 And so the elevator starts going

00:17:13.300 and this guy's a small talker.

00:17:14.620 I'm not a small talker.

00:17:15.660 I'd be fine just standing in stone silence

00:17:17.740 and saying nothing,

00:17:18.540 but this guy's a small talker.

00:17:20.300 So right away he says,

00:17:21.840 he gets on and he says,

00:17:22.860 man, it's hot outside.

00:17:24.800 And I say, yeah, yeah, it is hot.

00:17:28.780 Yeah, it's really hot.

00:17:29.820 I'm like, I'm sweating hot.

00:17:31.760 I'm not very good at small talk,

00:17:32.980 if you can tell.

00:17:34.180 And he says, well,

00:17:35.880 they're calling for rain all next week,

00:17:37.400 so it should cool down with the rain.

00:17:39.900 And I said, oh, really?

00:17:41.060 Okay.

00:17:42.700 And then silence.

00:17:44.040 Okay, I had killed the small talk conversation inadvertently,

00:17:47.680 which is what I always do.

00:17:48.840 So the small talk died.

00:17:50.780 And then that's the problem.

00:17:52.160 Because if you're going to open the small talk valve,

00:17:55.160 you kind of have to keep it going.

00:17:56.860 Because if you don't,

00:17:57.780 if you initiate the small talk,

00:17:59.400 but then you're still with that person

00:18:01.160 for a while after the small talk has died,

00:18:03.460 well, now the silence has become

00:18:05.800 about 10 times more awkward

00:18:07.400 than it would have been

00:18:08.280 if you had just never said anything whatsoever.

00:18:10.680 So the problem is small talk died

00:18:12.340 at about the third or fourth floor.

00:18:14.580 We still had 10 more floors to go.

00:18:16.660 And then we get to the 10th floor,

00:18:18.380 we get off on the same floor

00:18:20.300 and we walk the same direction

00:18:22.400 down the same hallway

00:18:23.520 after all of that weird silence

00:18:25.900 and after the conversation had died.

00:18:27.500 So it was just,

00:18:28.300 the conversation died,

00:18:29.580 10 more floors of silence.

00:18:30.820 We get off and we walk silently

00:18:32.000 next to each other

00:18:33.080 down the hallway to our rooms.

00:18:35.360 And it just made me think,

00:18:36.620 this awkwardness could have been avoided

00:18:39.320 if everyone had just observed elevator rules.

00:18:42.040 And these are rules

00:18:42.760 that when I am dictator of America,

00:18:44.360 I will instate upon penalty of death.

00:18:47.900 And there are two rules.

00:18:48.860 Okay, it's very simple.

00:18:49.940 The first rule is this,

00:18:51.460 no talking in an elevator whatsoever,

00:18:53.460 no eye contact,

00:18:55.020 no looking at anyone.

00:18:56.300 You can look up at the ceiling

00:18:57.420 or you can look down at the floor.

00:18:58.720 You don't look,

00:18:59.500 you don't talk.

00:19:01.100 Complete silence.

00:19:02.600 And this is the rule.

00:19:03.480 So there's no reason for the silence

00:19:04.660 to be awkward

00:19:05.400 because it's a rule now.

00:19:07.260 You have to be silent.

00:19:08.960 And if you don't,

00:19:09.560 you'll be killed. 0.95

00:19:11.040 Or, you know,

00:19:11.620 maybe you'll go to prison for 10 years.

00:19:12.680 We'll figure that out.

00:19:13.940 Second rule.

00:19:15.480 The company who owns the elevator

00:19:17.240 must have elevator music.

00:19:20.600 Whatever happened to elevator music?

00:19:22.300 I mean, it used to be

00:19:22.960 you get on the elevator,

00:19:23.920 there's music.

00:19:24.940 Now there's no music.

00:19:25.740 It's just silence.

00:19:26.660 There must be elevator music

00:19:27.800 and it must be loud and blaring

00:19:29.680 so as to alleviate

00:19:31.240 the awkwardness of the silence

00:19:32.820 and even to rule out

00:19:33.920 the possibility of silence.

00:19:36.040 I also think the same requirement

00:19:37.340 should be instated

00:19:38.820 in public restrooms. 1.00

00:19:39.920 Those are the two places.

00:19:40.940 No talking,

00:19:41.880 loud music,

00:19:43.480 all problems solved.

00:19:45.180 All right.

00:19:46.520 Now that we have that established,

00:19:48.400 I've just solved

00:19:49.220 the elevator problem.

00:19:50.780 And I've solved

00:19:51.500 the gender neutral problem,

00:19:52.500 so we've solved two problems.

00:19:53.420 I think that's pretty productive.

00:19:54.740 Thanks for watching, everybody.

00:19:55.840 Thanks for listening.

00:19:56.740 Godspeed.

00:19:57.120 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - July 24, 2018

Ep. 68 - Child Abuse In The Guise Of 'Gender Neutral Parenting'

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