Ep. 697 - The “Influencers” Who Prey On Your Children
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One of the most famous and influential YouTube stars on the planet is allegedly a sex predator who preys on young boys. Not a huge surprise, but it does raise a question: Do you know what your kids are doing online and who they re being influenced by? Also, five headlines including Joe Biden s gun control push, another shocking twist in an alleged hate crime case, and a Republican legislator sparks controversy by comparing abortion to slavery.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, one of the most famous and influential YouTube stars on the
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planet is allegedly a sex predator who preys on young boys. Not a huge surprise, but it does
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raise a question. Do you know what your kids are doing online and who they're being influenced by?
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Also, five headlines, including Joe Biden's gun control push, another shocking twist in an
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alleged hate crime case, and a Republican legislator sparks controversy by comparing
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abortion to slavery. But is he right? Well, yes, he is. I'll explain why. Plus our daily
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cancellation, reading the comments, and much more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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Since the advent of modern media, you know, it's been a challenge for parents to keep track
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of the celebrities and public figures who are influencing their children. I was a kid in the
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90s, and it wasn't easy for our parents. But at least back then, an adult who wanted to know what
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the kids are into these days always knew basically where to look. All they had to do was turn on MTV
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or a handful of other cable channels, and they could get a view of pop culture basically in its
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entirety. They may not have liked what they found, but I know that my dad certainly didn't. But what
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they found on TV was pretty much all there was, right, as far as pop culture goes. For the most
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part, they didn't have to worry that there was more weirder and darker stuff lurking out there
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somewhere in the shadows. The situation is very different now. Pop culture is more ubiquitous,
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but also more spread out, more obscure, harder for a parent to get a handle on. And kids spend
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much more of their time, much more of their time absorbed in it, like pretty much every second of
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their day in many cases, absorbed in it. They may still watch a little bit of traditional TV or maybe
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not, probably not, but most of their time certainly is spent online. And in every sphere where they go,
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YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, including websites that I probably don't
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even know about, there are these celebrity-like figures who now just go by the title influencer
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because literally their only job is to influence the audience. That's kids today. They live in a
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world run by content creators and influencers. And think about those titles. The ambiguity of those
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titles is the point because it doesn't matter what the content is. The point simply is to make content,
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any content and influence. It's not like the influence is a by-product of the music they're
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making or the art they're producing. Now there still are singers and other artists who are also
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influencing, but for people who are just influenced, that's all they do. Nothing else. They don't create
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anything. They don't do anything. They simply, their only job is to influence. And a lot of times
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they're influencing your kid. Now influence to what end? In what direction? Well, that often depends on
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the corporate sponsors backing these people. The challenge for parents is that these influencers
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rise to prominence quickly, seemingly out of nowhere, sometimes falling out of favor as rapidly
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as they rose into it, like a, like sort of like quarks popping in and out of existence. For parents,
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it's like an infinite game of whack-a-mole. The result is that if your child spends a lot of time
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online, there are going to be influencers influencing them that you haven't even heard of, despite the fact
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that they're massively popular, wealthy, and backed by the biggest brands in the world.
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A kid in the sixties had, you know, the Beatles. The kid today has a million different versions of
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the Beatles in a million different places. And all of them have direct sustained and sometimes
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personal access to him. So that's all a long preamble to bring up the name James Charles.
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I've mentioned him on the show before. I mentioned him again yesterday on Twitter for a reason that
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I'll explain in just a moment. But to prove my point, a large number of my followers, many of whom
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are older, and when I say older, I mean like my age, told me that they had never heard of the guy
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and had no idea why I would bring up such an obscure, irrelevant figure. Well, James Charles
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is a YouTube and Instagram influencer. He has 25 million subscribers on YouTube. 25 million.
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Think about that. 27 million Instagram followers. He's also been sponsored by or worked with a number
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of major multi-million dollar brands, starting with CoverGirl back in 2016. Charles is specifically
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a beauty influencer. He models makeup. And as we're told, or we were told with great fanfare a few years
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ago, he was the first male CoverGirl in history, which was supposed to be a big deal. He's also
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allegedly a sex predator. Charles, who's a 21-year-old man, has been repeatedly accused of sexting,
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sending nude pictures to, and trying to solicit sex from, a series of underage boys.
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The accusations have come from boys as young as 14. Now, Charles, in an apology video posted to
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YouTube a few days ago, confessed actually to messaging a couple of these alleged victims,
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in this case, a couple of 16-year-old boys, by far not the only boys to have accused him.
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But he confessed to having messaged them. But he also said that he didn't know their age. And after
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some self-reflection and, quote, research, he decided that he shouldn't be involved with them.
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Within the past couple of weeks, two different people, both under the age of 18, have recently
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come forward saying that they had inappropriate messages with me on social media. One of them
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being from last year and one of them being from more recent. In both of these cases, I added these
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people on Snapchat, asked how old they were right away, was told that they were 18, believed them,
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engaged in a flirty conversation, and then later on, found out that they were actually 16. Upon finding
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out, I was immediately embarrassed and blocked both people. Later on, when I saw them making videos
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about it and those videos going viral, my immediate reaction, completely honestly, was to be really,
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really upset. I wanted to get on camera and film another No More Lies video where I gather all my
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receipts and all my screenshots and try to tell my side of the story and then just move on from the
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situation. And now, looking back, that was so stupid. Because as I did more research on these topics
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and self-reflected, I realized that the receipts and the screenshots and the specific details of the
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interaction really don't matter because I f***ed up. He did some research. He had to do some research
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to find out about, you know, whether he should be messaging underage boys, I guess. I don't know.
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Now, as I said, those are only two of the accusations and not even the most serious ones.
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In that same video, he also justified his actions on the basis that he's lonely and desperate.
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In the past, he's admitted publicly that he's not attracted to older guys.
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Although he did say, you know, he likes them younger, but he said only down to 18, he said.
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During an appearance on the Impulsive podcast, another really popular thing that your kid probably
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listens to and you may not have heard of, he seemingly admitted that he has on multiple
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occasions at least attempted to fly high school boys out to meet him. Let's listen to that.
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Talk to guys that live in different states and stuff. And I'm like, hey, like, why don't
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you come visit? Like, well, I can't afford a plane ticket. That's like, okay, well, I
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can. So like get on the plane and like, well, I just don't really feel comfortable with that.
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But like, I love you and I really want to be together. And I'm like, well, we can't be
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together because you can't afford a plane ticket. You're probably still in either high
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school or college, a senior in high school or in college. So either you accept the flight
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and realize that like, this is what I'm bringing to the relationship so we can spend time
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together if you actually care about me or we literally never meet because you can't afford it.
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That's the closest thing to an admission of a felony sex crime that you're likely to ever
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hear on a podcast. At least I hope. So this is a man multiply accused of soliciting sex from
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children who has come very close to confessing to the charge on multiple occasions publicly
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in front of an audience of millions. And yet he remains on YouTube. His videos are still
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monetized. As far as I know, he hasn't even been suspended. His corporate backers, sponsors,
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affiliates have almost all remained silent and he's got a lot of them. There's little
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media coverage of the scandal, little public outrage. It's not hard to see why. Charles was
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hailed by the left and the media five years ago when he became the historic world's first
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cover boy, right? And he's a, you know, he's a, he's a homosexual man celebrated for breaking
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gender barriers and so on. Now for this man to also be a sex predator and for the left and the media to
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be responsible for putting him in a position to prey on boys. Well, that's just untenable.
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They can never accept that or admit to it ever, especially because people like, like me, you know,
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the backwards old fashioned types. We took one look at this guy and immediately said that he clearly
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has serious issues. We were labeled bigots for that. I mean, the left can never admit that we
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were right because then they'd have to ask why we were right. How could we have been right?
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I mean, why is it that some of us would look at James Charles, listen to him for five seconds
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and come to the conclusion that he has to put up mildly issues. Why is it, uh, why is it that those
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of us who knew about this guy and then heard that he's trying to pick up young boys, why is it that
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we would respond by saying, well, yeah, you know, no surprise there. How, how did we come to that
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conclusion? This is a dangerous conversation for the left and one they don't want to have.
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They want us to believe it's entirely healthy and a laudable thing for a man to reject his
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masculinity to this extent. Those of us who say that it is perhaps a troubling sign, a sign of
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something unhealthy psychologically are labeled bigots and phobes of various sorts. We can't,
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we can't be allowed to have been right. That can't be permitted. So they'll just ignore it.
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James Charles will continue preying on children. Allegedly. He'll continue being an enormously
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influential figure, maybe even influential to your own children, unless you step in between
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to protect your kids from these predators and degenerates, which you should. And I hope you do.
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yesterday some measures that he would be taking for gun control. And, uh, you know, actually a
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little bit of a, a little bit of a personal tie in here. I should, I should mention that, um, I did
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go out yesterday and buy a gun myself. Figured it was, you know, good, good time to do that. Uh,
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especially with all these with, with Joe Biden in office. And, um, you know, I have to say,
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aside from the fact that I had to show an ID and give lots of personal information and fill out a
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questionnaire about my mental health and a criminal history and wait for the background check to clear
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and pay hundreds of dollars. It was so much easier than voting except for all of those things. It was
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so much easier than voting except for all of the things that made it way more difficult than voting.
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It was a lot easier. That was just my experience though. Um, and, and that of course is I'm in
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Tennessee, you know, in many other States, it's going to be, uh, to getting a gun is far more
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difficult than that. And you'd have to wait a lot more than, than, uh, than a few minutes for the
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background check to clear. Anyway, Joe Biden announced executive orders to enact gun control.
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Fox has some details about that. Uh, it says an administration official detailed the actions to
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reporters on Wednesday. Among them, Biden is asking the justice department to propose within a month,
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a, within a month, a rule to stop quote unquote ghost guns, which are kits people can buy legally
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to assemble a functioning firearm that does not have a serial number. Biden is also asking the DOJ
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to propose within 60 days. Yeah. By the way, I'm sure that, um, your average criminal looking to
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commit a crime is taking the time to assemble their own gun, right? I'm sure that's what's happening
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in most cases. Biden is also asking the DOJ to propose within 60 days, a rule on braces
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used for handguns, which make them more accurate to propose action on community violence intervention,
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to publish suggestions for red flag legislation, and is asking his administration to issue a report
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on gun trafficking. So those are all the things that he's thinking of doing. Um, and a lot of it is
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purposefully vague, like there's more to come. So we're not, we're not told everything that's going
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to happen here. And that's part of the point here is Joe Biden announcing this and talking
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specifically about the constitutional concerns and then promptly dismissing all of those concerns.
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Let's listen. Today, we're taking steps to confront not just the gun crisis, but what is actually a
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public health crisis. Nothing, nothing I'm about to recommend in any way impinges on the second
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amendment. There are phony arguments suggesting that these are second amendment rights at stake from
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what we're talking about. But no amendment, no amendment to the constitution is absolute.
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You can't yell crowd, you can't yell fire in a crowded movie theater. We call it freedom of speech.
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From the very beginning, you couldn't own any weapon you wanted to own. From the very beginning
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of the second amendment existed, certain people weren't allowed to have weapons. So the idea is just
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bizarre to suggest that some of the things we're recommending are contrary to the constitution.
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Gun violence in this country is an epidemic. Let me say it again. Gun violence in this country is an
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epidemic. And it's an international embarrassment. You can't yell crowd in a fired movie theater.
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He actually trotted out that old thing. Yeah, you have to remember when you're hearing a Democrat talk
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about the constitution, they are very, very selective in the way that they choose to interpret it and
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which amendments are absolute and which aren't. These are simply not serious people when it comes
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to constitutional interpretation or anything else. Keep in mind that these are the same people,
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Joe Biden among them, who would tell you and have told you and insisted upon this for the last four
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decades that the constitution guarantees the right to abortion. Even though abortion is not
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mentioned in the constitution or hinted at or referenced or, or there is, there is no language
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at all in the constitution that comes anywhere close to abortion. And yet they'll say the constitution
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absolutely guarantees a right to abortion. And they, they, they hinge that, that right on the
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constitutional right to privacy, even though that's also not in the constitution, the word privacy
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doesn't appear. So they have located the right to abortion, um, which does not exist in the
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constitution in the right to privacy, which also does not exist. And yet they can do all of that fancy
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footwork and all of those maneuvers and they could pull out their decoder pen and, you know, they're
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looking at the invisible ink and they're putting things together and they're, they're, they're
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approaching it like a word search. They're circling cert. Oh, there's an A here. Look, a B O R. You
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see, it's all coming together. They can do that for abortion. And yet somehow the second amendment,
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which is perhaps the clearest amendment, uh, in the entire document that doesn't guarantee the right
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to bear arms with that, all of a sudden now they're saying, well, what's the original intent? And
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now you care about original intent. What do you think the founding fathers originally intended to
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codify, uh, the right to kill your, your baby in the womb? Was that their original intent?
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Uh, Joe Biden also makes a series of just straight up false claims. Well, like we always get one of
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them, of course, being this claim, I don't think he says it here. He probably, he might have, but, uh,
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uh, one of them, of course, the claim about it's harder to get a gun than vote. Totally false. Here's
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a false claim that he said this time, um, about, uh, how easy it is allegedly to get a gun at a gun
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show. Let's listen. These bills one require background checks for anyone purchasing a gun at a gun show
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or an online sale. Most people don't know it. You walk into a store and you buy a gun, you have a
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background check, but you go to a gun show, you can buy whatever you want and no background check.
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Most people don't know that because it's not true. You know, there's a lot of things that,
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that most people don't know. Most, most people don't know that, uh, cows can fly to the moon.
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A cow can fly to the moon. Most people don't know that when you make up facts, you can always
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make up facts that people don't know. It's a lot of fun actually. No, that's not, that's, uh, not
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true at all. I wish it were. That'd be a lot of fun. I wish I could just walk into a gun show,
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get any gun I want. Maybe they hand you an AR-15 walking in the door for free, you know, or it's
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like a, it's a, uh, when I used to go to birthday parties as a kid, they'd give you these party bags
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on the way out the door, you know, cause all the kids had to get, we were the participation
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trophy generation. So all the kids had to get gifts at a birthday party. Otherwise it wouldn't
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be fair. Anyway, I wish there was a, uh, like a gift bag when you leave the gun show, got an AR-15
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in there, you know, that would be fun, but that's not how it works. Uh, it's not true at all. And Jen
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Psaki was asked about this like 30 minutes later about this, that you just heard Joe Biden say that,
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right? And here's Jen Psaki denying that Joe Biden said the thing that we all just heard him say.
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President said a moment ago, quote, you go to a gun show, you can buy whatever you want. No background
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check. Is there a special exemption in federal law that he was referring to or just do FLA dealers
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not have to do background checks when they're at a gun show? All right. Are you asking me if he was
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referring, no, it's okay. Were you asking me if he was referring to like a specific circumstance or I'm
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sorry to tell me a little bit more about your question. I mean, is it the president's belief
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that you do not have to undergo a background check when you are at a gun show? No, it's not
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his belief. He believes that gun, that background checks should be universal. Right. He says no
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background check. Well, we know what his position is, right? So let me reiterate that, which is that,
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uh, got background checks or something that should be universal. They're supported by more than 80%
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of the public. He supported legislation, advocated for that, um, and, uh, advocated against loopholes
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as well. So that's his position. And I appreciate you asking for the clarification.
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You can always tell when Jen Psaki is about to lie because her, her tell is, um, that she acts
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confused by a really basic straightforward question. That's when, you know, she's geared because her,
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she's trying to think of what the lie is going to be. And she's buying a little bit of time.
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I don't blame her. It is a tough job. I would think. Um, and why a person with a soul and
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integrity probably shouldn't, shouldn't accept it to, to be a white house spokesperson. And you
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know, you're gonna have to get up there and lie every single day. So this is her tell. She acts
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like she's confused. So she's asked, uh, well, the president Biden just said that you need a
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background. You don't need a background check at a gun show. Is that true? What do you mean? I don't
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understand your question. Could you rephrase it? I'm, I'm trying to understand. I really
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want to understand. I just don't understand that, that question you just asked. And then
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she says that, no, he doesn't believe that. So he, he lied then. She bought herself time
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to tell her lie. And it wasn't even a very good one because what she said is no, uh, but
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the president doesn't believe that he doesn't believe what he said. Huh? What's, what do we
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call that? Well, you say something that you don't believe. Um, what is that? It's a lie.
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Right. Okay. Well, thanks for clarifying that Jen. All right. Number two, there were reports
00:23:13.300
speaking of lies reports last week about racist graffiti, the good old racist graffiti gambit,
00:23:18.380
um, racist graffiti found around campus at a college called Albion college in Michigan.
00:23:25.500
The graffiti said, here's what the graffiti said. Um, KKK white power die. N words, please.
00:23:33.720
And, um, we do exist KKK. And then there was a star of David with a, with the number six,
00:23:43.000
six, six written across it. I guess it was supposed to be an antisemitic thing. Um, now
00:23:47.380
this was a big deal locally. Got a lot of attention. The students protested. We got some footage
00:23:51.720
of that. They're pretty long line of them. This is a small college, but it looks like they
00:23:56.220
all came out. Look at them all, all marching. They all came out to March against racism on campus.
00:24:03.720
Uh, and then what is it? I don't, I don't have to tell you what happens next. Do I,
00:24:07.680
you already know you heard racist graffiti. And if you, if you've been paying attention at all over
00:24:12.840
the last 10 years, you know exactly where this is headed. It was a hoax. It was a black student
00:24:16.540
that wrote the graffiti, you know, even without the, the, the history, even without knowing the
00:24:22.200
history, you probably would have already guessed that this is a hoax because this just isn't KKK white
00:24:28.240
power. Who do you think is, is going to sincerely write that? Even if it was a, an actual white
00:24:37.480
racist, like why would they write that? But as we've covered many times, you know, people who want
00:24:46.940
to invent hate crimes and turn themselves into a victim, they have, they have a lot of trouble doing
00:24:53.680
it persuasively and convincingly because they really have not encountered a lot of racism from
00:25:00.500
white people. So they don't even know what that would be like. They, you know, if, if, if, if racism
00:25:07.600
from white people was common in this country, number one, you wouldn't have to invent it.
00:25:11.340
You wouldn't have to make it up. And number two, if you did make it up, you would have encountered
00:25:18.080
it so often that you should be able to make it up and impersonate it convincingly.
00:25:25.560
But this is obviously someone who has never encountered a white racist in his entire life.
00:25:30.560
He has no idea what a white racist would say, which is good by the way. He's never encountered
00:25:34.960
one. That's a great thing. We should celebrate that. So instead he bases it off of like movies that
00:25:40.320
he saw in TV shows and stuff. That's one way that you know that it's a hoax. And the other way you
00:25:45.500
know it's a hoax is that as far as I can remember, and correct me if I'm wrong, I'll at least say
00:25:51.580
this. I cannot think in the last 20 years, I cannot think of a single case where so-called racist
00:25:57.820
graffiti or a racist note left on a receipt or left on someone's car windshield or slipped under their
00:26:03.820
door turned out to be sincere. Every single case that I can think of, they were all hoaxes. Has there been
00:26:12.260
even one real case? I'm assuming just a law of averages. There has to have been, right? The last 20 years
00:26:19.260
have to have been at least a couple of these racist graffiti cases that was actually done by a white
00:26:26.220
person. Maybe. Anyway, MLive has the report, says Albion College and the Albion Department of Public
00:26:34.400
Safety says that a student is responsible for racist graffiti found in a dorm last weekend. Albion
00:26:40.040
police brought the 21-year-old black male in for questioning on April 6th. The student admitted to
00:26:45.720
creating most of the graffiti and video evidence from Albion's campus safety department confirms the
00:26:50.040
statements made by the student. So I take it from that that he was on security camera footage. They
00:26:56.100
said video evidence confirms it. So I'm assuming that probably he was right in front of a
00:27:02.900
of security camera scrolling this thing. When it comes to hate crime hoaxes, they're really not
00:27:09.840
sending their best. But here's the response to this from Albion College. And I could be pronouncing
00:27:17.240
the name of the college wrong. Never heard of them before now. But here's what they tweeted. This is
00:27:21.600
this. They put they put this out. I think it was yesterday. This is after it was already known who was
00:27:25.540
responsible for this. And this is their tweet. OK, they said earlier today, we identified the
00:27:31.740
individual responsible for the racist and anti-Semitic graffiti in Mitchell Towers. The
00:27:36.260
student who was acting alone acknowledged their responsibility for these for these incidents.
00:27:39.980
They have been immediately removed from campus and placed on temporary suspension while we conduct
00:27:44.000
a full investigation as part of our student judicial process. But we know the acts of racism that have
00:27:49.260
occurred this week are not about one particular person or one particular incident. We know that there's a
00:27:53.500
significant history of racial pain and trauma on campus, and we're taking action to repair our
00:27:57.960
community. We will change and heal together as a community because we are committed to doing the
00:28:02.180
work. Right now, we encourage all members of our community to listen, respond and care for one
00:28:06.480
another and lean on the faculty, staff, community members who have been gathering today to make sure
00:28:10.560
we're supporting you. We have your back. OK. Aside from the normal tripe about we'll do the work.
00:28:17.020
We're committed. The phrase do the work has become to me as grating and annoying as the phrase lived
00:28:24.320
experience. And they're always said by the usually in the same sentence by the same sorts of people.
00:28:31.240
I'm surprised lived experience didn't appear in this statement here. We'll do the work to understand
00:28:36.400
your lived experience. But do you notice? So we got to do the work. We got the buzzwords and everything.
00:28:42.300
You notice what's missing from this statement? They never say it was a hoax. They never say that
00:28:49.260
it was a black student who did it. In fact, they intentionally give the impression that it was a
00:28:55.100
white student. They don't say that. But they tie all this into historic racism, racial trauma,
00:29:02.160
so on and so forth. They're clearly trying to give the impression without saying it that
00:29:08.460
the graffiti really was done by a white racist. That's the way the school has decided to handle
00:29:13.760
it. And if that doesn't work, then they will at least try to disperse the blame.
00:29:24.860
You know, it's we're not going to blame this one individual. We're going to blame the institutions.
00:29:29.360
This, this is not, this is not about one particular person. It's about a history of racial pain. No,
00:29:37.660
it is definitely about one particular person. It's about the guy who did it.
00:29:43.220
A guy who they say is kicked off a campus. That's good. He should also be charged with a crime.
00:29:48.720
You know, a hate crime hoax is a hate crime. I'm not a fan of the hate crime designation at all.
00:29:57.400
I don't think it should exist, but as long as it does, it should be used equally and in a way
00:30:00.900
that's at least sort of coherent. And what that means is that a hate crime hoax should be considered
00:30:05.240
a hate crime. It's, it is a hate crime against the group of people that you're trying to frame.
00:30:13.620
That's what it's a hate crime against. So a black student putting that graffiti up,
00:30:19.800
pretending that a white racist did it, that is a hate crime against white students.
00:30:22.380
He is trying to inflame hatred towards the white students and guilt by association. He's trying to,
00:30:31.760
um, to, you know, uh, defame them as, as racist.
00:30:40.320
That's the way we should, that's the way these things should be handled. All right. Um, next here,
00:30:44.880
we have a report here from KFOR in Oklahoma, local news affiliate there over the controversy
00:30:50.300
surrounding a Republican legislator who, while arguing in favor of pro-life legislation,
00:30:55.460
compared abortion to slavery. And we were, this is a big controversy. We're supposed to be upset
00:30:59.560
about this. Uh, let's listen to the news report. Representative Jim Olson was introducing his bill
00:31:05.780
to the house public health committee when he made these comments that immediately sparked outrage from
00:31:11.120
some of his fellow house members. What was going through my head was shocked and appalled. A
00:31:18.660
controversial comparison made in a debate over an abortion bill. Republican representative Jim
00:31:24.460
Olson introducing his bill that would make performing an abortion a felony. In his argument,
00:31:30.140
comparing the fight to abolish abortion to a long push to abolish slavery. This is absolutely worth
00:31:37.040
doing, even if it takes a long time. But that message was amiss for some in the room. Saving the
00:31:42.980
lives of an unborn child is, is more important than saving the lives of slaves. None of us would like
00:31:48.320
to be a slave. Um, if I had my choice, I guess I'd be a slave. At least the slave has his life. Later,
00:31:56.420
Representative Olson doubling down, saying it's in no way an endorsement of slavery. In the context of
00:32:02.940
history in general, I did compare one evil to another. And very frankly, I make no apology for
00:32:11.180
it. That's triggering. That's traumatizing. That's hurtful. Oh, shut up. It's you were traumatized,
00:32:18.600
were you? By someone making a point rhetorically? You're, you were traumatized by that. You're
00:32:23.820
suffering trauma. You have to go to therapy now. That's trauma. Okay. Trauma is like someone survives
00:32:30.100
a plane crash. Okay. Trauma is someone who was sexually abused as a child. That's trauma.
00:32:36.680
Trauma is not a guy made a point you disagreed with.
00:32:41.880
And this Jim Olson guy, I don't know anything about him, but based on that alone, uh, I like him.
00:32:47.620
And the suggestion that he was defending slavery, but what he was, his, that was exactly the opposite
00:32:56.200
point he was trying to make. He's trying to make a point about how evil abortion is by comparing it
00:33:00.900
to slavery. Now you could disagree, but to suggest that he was what, what was the phrase that he was
00:33:08.700
defending slavery or justifying it? What? That's exactly the opposite of what he was saying.
00:33:15.820
And in fact, as it happens, and I've made this point myself many times, um,
00:33:20.140
there is a similarity here. There's a similarity because what you find throughout history is that,
00:33:27.320
um, and, and, and this is true today and it goes going all the way back. And this has always been
00:33:31.260
the case in human society. Unfortunately, that there are always groups of people who are pointing
00:33:37.580
to other groups of people and saying that those people aren't people. Okay. Throughout history,
00:33:43.580
you always have that. You have some people trying to deperson other people. And this comes in various
00:33:50.760
different forms. Um, and leads to, and always leads to atrocity and death and oppression and
00:33:57.900
horrible, horrible things. And what you find is that, and this is a really important point that the
00:34:03.260
people who are doing this, who are doing the depersoning, they always make the same kinds of
00:34:08.720
arguments always. It never changes for thousands of years. It has hardly changed.
00:34:17.100
No, I've, I've, uh, I, this is something I go through in a lot of my speeches, but I'll go through
00:34:20.720
it here just to make that point as the point's been raised. Um, in fact, I was giving a speech,
00:34:25.200
a right to life in, uh, here in Nashville and in Tennessee a couple of days ago, and I went through
00:34:29.740
the same thing. So let's go through it. Okay. Just, just to make, to make the point. Um, every pro,
00:34:36.740
every pro abortion argument has mirrors our arguments, pro slavery arguments from the 19th
00:34:43.220
century. And let's, let's go through them. There's the argument from ownership. This slave
00:34:49.280
slash baby is my property slash body. You can't tell me what to do with it. There's the argument
00:34:54.360
from privacy. No one is forcing you to have slaves slash abortions. Mind your own business.
00:34:59.300
There's the argument from superseding rights. My property slash body autonomy rights come before
00:35:04.180
the rights of a slave slash fetus. There's the argument from inevitability. Slavery slash abortion
00:35:09.240
has been around for thousands of years. It's never going away. We might as well have a safe and legal
00:35:12.640
system in place for it. There's the argument from pseudoscience. Slave slash fetuses aren't really
00:35:18.420
people. They aren't like us. Look at them. They're physically different. Therefore we are human and
00:35:22.820
they are not. There's the argument from socioeconomics. If slavery slash abortion ends, most of these slaves
00:35:28.400
slash babies will end up on the street without a job. There's the argument from the courts. This is a big
00:35:33.180
one. Slavery slash abortion has been vindicated by the Supreme Court. It's settled law. There's the
00:35:38.940
argument from faux compassion. Slavery slash abortion is in the best interest of the Africans
00:35:42.920
slash babies. The world can be a cruel place. It's best to protect them by keeping them enslaved slash
00:35:47.840
killing them. Then there's the argument from the assumed hypocrisy of the other side. You say you want
00:35:53.000
to end slavery slash abortion, but you don't want to live with free blacks slash adopt unwanted babies
00:35:57.020
yourself. And that's only a partial list. Every single one directly correlates with arguments made
00:36:09.600
today for abortion. And finally, we have time for this. Yeah, we'll make time because we got to make
00:36:17.960
time for this. You know, I love playing the TikTok videos for you. And here's a good one. No
00:36:24.180
introduction needed. Here's another TikTok woman screaming in her car. Always fun. Let's watch.
00:36:29.140
So f***ing done with this world. I'm so tired of it. I'm so f***ing tired of this selfish, idiotic
00:36:35.320
behavior. I have one, two, I have three f***ing trailers. Three. And I don't want to carry this
00:36:44.560
f***ing iron lung with me anywhere I f***ing go. Just in case that these don't work and you have the
00:36:50.320
nerve to tell me that I, you have a doctor's note not to wear this. If any doctor gave you that,
00:36:57.280
it's because you're that f***ing weak. You can't wear a piece of cloth. You're a f***ing selfish,
00:37:03.340
f***ing. And if your husband does that too in public, I hope you both catch COVID. I hope you
00:37:09.200
both understand how serious this is. My four-year-old needs me. My disabled husband who broke his spine
00:37:15.960
in 2016 needs me. I'm the only one doing anything at my house because they need me. And you're selfish
00:37:23.980
trying to take me away from them. Okay, darling. Um, first of all, if you have trouble breathing,
00:37:32.100
calm down, stop screaming. This is not, this isn't, this is not helping your asthma. I'll tell you that
00:37:37.540
much. Um, second of all, mind your own business, my body, my choice, right? Remember one of the
00:37:46.940
pro-abortion arguments, except it actually like really applies here. Whereas it doesn't apply
00:37:52.200
for abortion because again, as we talked about, they've talked about many times, abortion is the,
00:37:56.760
the direct killing of another person is the direct destruction of another person's body.
00:38:00.980
Not wearing a mask is not the direct destruction of another person's body by not wearing a mask.
00:38:07.620
You are not intentionally and directly killing another person. You're not. Anyone who says you
00:38:12.660
are is insane, a lunatic and should be disregarded. So in this case, I'll say, yeah, my body, my choice.
00:38:18.860
Simple as that. I don't want to wear it. So I'm not going to. Um, but I do also have to say,
00:38:22.760
you know, with all due respect, um, she says that she's the only one doing anything for her health
00:38:28.240
and she's trying to look out for health. Well, the number one risk factor for COVID. Yeah. Asthma
00:38:36.400
is not, not good, but really the number one risk factor is obesity. And, uh, we're a year into this
00:38:43.600
thing and you say that you care, you're, you're taking this so seriously, right? You're taking it
00:38:48.940
so seriously and, uh, your, your health is so important to you, but you haven't, you're, you're
00:38:55.100
still very overweight. And so you're, you're in a high risk category. If you were taking your health
00:39:01.040
as that, that seriously, you'd be taking care of that because that's something that you can do
00:39:04.960
yourself. Can't blame anyone else for that. That is something you can do. Um, and if you did,
00:39:12.700
it would lower your COVID risks substantially. So if you're not even doing that, then I guess I
00:39:16.860
question how seriously you're really taking it. All right. Let's move on to quickly reading a few
00:39:24.160
of these comments here. Anna says, thanks for talking about aging. I'm tired of this youth
00:39:29.480
obsessed society, how society pretends no one ages. And if they do, there's something wrong with them.
00:39:34.720
Yeah. Well, and, and that, and that, as we talked about yesterday, it's, uh, partially a symptom of
00:39:40.500
our fear of death. Uh, we, we, we probably live in one of the most death phobic societies in human
00:39:46.820
history. I mean, human beings have always been afraid of death, but we are so, uh, pardon the phrase
00:39:53.940
dead set on denying it, not thinking about it, avoiding it to an extent, to an extent that I
00:40:01.300
think sets us apart from, from many other human societies in history. And that's, it's a symptom
00:40:05.420
of that. It's also one of the reasons why, and I've never understood this, why asking somebody their
00:40:11.860
age is like embarrassing. You're not supposed to ask that question. That is, that is a social
00:40:17.760
convention that I think is so ridiculous. And I reject it. And I don't, I ask people their age all
00:40:23.340
the time. I don't care how old or young they seem to be. Cause sometimes it could be something
00:40:29.660
you're curious about. It kind of, it relates to the conversation you're having. I have no
00:40:33.800
problem. So how old are you? And yeah, oftentimes people will look at you like you just asked them
00:40:38.420
how much money they have in their bank account or, you know, if they have herpes or something
00:40:44.420
like they look at you, like you've just asked this incredibly personal. It's not, who cares?
00:40:49.720
It's your age. It's simply how long you've been on earth. Why is that a really personal,
00:40:55.360
embarrassing detail? I don't get it. If you've been around a long time, that's good. You should
00:41:03.080
be proud of that. It's not embarrassing. So what, if you're 52, you're embarrassed that you've been,
00:41:08.560
it's embarrassing that you've been on earth for 52 years. You would rather that you've only been on
00:41:13.520
earth for 22. Why? If anything, it's embarrassing to be younger because it means you have less
00:41:19.700
experience, less wisdom, less credibility in a lot of areas. I like getting old. I can't wait to be
00:41:29.580
older. Um, once I get to like 70, you know, that's going to be, that's really, I've been,
00:41:35.580
I've been 70 years old really spiritually my whole life. And so when I get to 70, that's when I will know
00:41:40.220
that I'm home. Um, let's see. T Smith says, Hey Matt, just listen to your rumination on the
00:41:49.420
meaning of life for non-religious people. We're reminded of a segment a while back when you
00:41:53.400
critiqued Sam Harris's position on free will. Are you up on Sam's philosophy relating to the
00:41:58.640
meaning of life from his waking up podcast? I'd be curious to hear your thoughts. I'm not sure
00:42:03.440
exactly what you're, what you're referring to. I did hear a clip of his a while ago that someone
00:42:07.340
sent me that I thought was interesting, where he talks about the reality of death and, uh, you know,
00:42:11.780
how, how to live in spite of the fact that we're going to die. And he's, he's approaching this as
00:42:15.200
an atheist. I think he did his, he does as good a job as an atheist can do in dealing with that
00:42:21.520
subject and basically, basically explaining how you can live with joy and purpose, even knowing
00:42:28.720
from the atheist perspective that you're soon going to be dead and erased from existence. And, uh,
00:42:32.960
everyone's going to forget about you and you will just evaporate into the ether and nothing you
00:42:36.700
ever did will matter. Like even knowing that, how do you live with joy and purpose? Sam Harris,
00:42:41.880
I've heard him address that a few times. He does as good a job as you could possibly do with that,
00:42:47.220
but that's still not very good because you can't get around on the atheist worldview,
00:42:52.140
the inherent meaningless of life. You can't get around it. Um, and finally, Tristan says,
00:42:59.480
would I be wrong in thinking that as a species, we are sick and insane? No, you would not.
00:43:03.480
In fact, that's, that's, uh, go from the atheist worldview to the Christian worldview. That's a,
00:43:11.040
that is one of the fundamental facets of the Christian worldview that we are a sick, uh, people
00:43:18.660
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Today for our daily cancellation, we turned to a website called openly the bill. They build
00:45:11.520
themselves as an impartial in quote, impartial LGBT plus news organization. Now, my first issue here
00:45:18.300
off the bat is that they've left off the queue. I'm not sure why that is. This has been a really
00:45:23.360
bad year for the letter Q I think, but in any case, openly published a lengthy thread, which went viral
00:45:28.040
and is supposed to demonstrate the validity of quote, non-binary identities by showing that cultures
00:45:34.120
across the world have their own versions of non-binary or trans people. Now, many on the left
00:45:38.760
think they succeeded. Now I think they succeeded too. It's just that they succeeded in proving my point,
00:45:44.140
not their own point. So let's take a look at the thread. This is what they said, quote,
00:45:48.660
the gender binaries of male and female aren't as universal as you think from Samoa to Albania.
00:45:53.880
Here are eight cultures throughout history showing that the concept of non-binary gender is far from
00:45:59.020
new. Now we'll stop right there for a second. This is a tactic that the left likes to trot out from
00:46:03.980
time to time, usually in an effort to normalize one of their preferred lifestyles. But this strategy
00:46:09.620
creates some problems for the people who use it. The problem is that the, look, other cultures in
00:46:15.300
the world agree with me, knife, cuts both ways. There are many societies across the globe still
00:46:21.140
today and certainly throughout history that, for example, considered homosexuality to be sinful.
00:46:26.180
In many cultures, there are still very traditional ideas about the role of women. There are plenty of
00:46:30.500
cultures where fathers decide who their daughters marry and so on. If we're meant to embrace gender
00:46:35.560
fluidity because other cultures allegedly practice it, then should we also revert back
00:46:40.620
to traditional marriage and patriarchal family structures on the same basis? Oh no, of course
00:46:45.440
not. No, we're supposed to celebrate and embrace other cultures based entirely on how those cultures
00:46:51.640
conform to Western liberal ideas. That's what the left thinks. I don't know about you, but that sounds a
00:46:58.320
little, what's the word they like to use? Um, colonialist to me. Now let's look at the examples
00:47:05.180
they provide. We'll go through some of these. Um, two-spirit North America. Identifying with
00:47:11.880
masculinity and femininity, indigenous North American two-spirit people are often said to
00:47:17.060
contain both male and female spirits. They're often revealed in their communities, seen as a channel
00:47:22.340
between the physical and the spiritual. Then we go to Samoa. Identifying as a separate gender,
00:47:28.420
Fa-Fafinz. I'm going to mispronounce a lot of stuff when I read this, but just, we'll just go with
00:47:34.260
me. Fa-Faninz roles in society moves fluidly between the traditional male and female. While they're
00:47:39.480
assigned male at birth, Samoa also recognizes Fa-Fatama, an equally fluid gender for those assigned
00:47:46.260
female at birth. And we go to South Asia, the Hydras. They say the centuries-old third gender
00:47:52.740
associated with sacred powers usually refers to those assigned male at birth, but don't identify
00:47:57.120
as such. In 2014, India legally recognized Hydras as a third gender after they were criminalized by
00:48:03.400
the British in 1871. Then we have the sworn virgins in Albania. In this dying practice,
00:48:09.600
women take on the social identity of a man for life while taking a vow of chastity. By taking on this
00:48:14.480
identity, they're elevated to the status of a man entitled to the rights and privileges of the
00:48:18.480
patriarchy. Then we go to the Metis in Nepal. Officially recognized as a third gender in Nepal
00:48:24.500
in 2017, or rather 2007, Metis have a long history in the Himalayan region. Assigned male at birth,
00:48:30.280
they assume a traditional feminine appearance. Nepal set a global precedent with a third gender
00:48:34.760
category on official documents. And finally, the Toms in Thailand. One of the dozens or more common
00:48:40.600
gender identities in Thailand, Toms are women who adopt masculine mannerisms and style while using male
00:48:45.920
speech patterns. Toms are often attracted to Ds, women who follow traditional Thai gender norms.
00:48:52.360
Okay, let's run through a few issues here. First of all, we're just assuming for the sake of argument
00:48:58.000
that all of the information provided here is actually correct. And that is a wild assumption
00:49:02.180
and probably a bad one. But that has to be our starting point for the sake of argument.
00:49:07.300
Just remember to apply a healthy portion of salt to everything that you just heard.
00:49:11.420
I don't even know if all that is true. For all I know, it's all false. For example, I do know that
00:49:16.260
the two-spirit term, the first thing they mentioned for Native Americans, that term dates back to 1990.
00:49:23.100
LGBT activists came up with it about 30 years ago. It's not some ancient idea stretching back into the
00:49:28.560
distant past. They just came up with this. I suspect if I researched all of these other examples,
00:49:34.240
I would find similar caveats. But again, for the sake of argument, let's pretend that all of the
00:49:38.560
information in the thread is correct and not at all misleading. On that assumption,
00:49:42.520
it actually defeats the very point that it's supposed to make. Why? Well, first of all,
00:49:48.440
in some of these cases, the supposedly non-binary identification is religious in nature. We're
00:49:53.820
told about the third gender people in South Asia who are believed to have sacred powers. But they don't
00:49:59.800
really have sacred powers, of course. This is obviously an incorrect belief about the way the world
00:50:04.920
works. It's a doctrinal, religiously-based belief. Some might call it superstitious.
00:50:11.200
Now, there's nothing wrong with religious beliefs in principle. I have my own religious beliefs.
00:50:17.260
Though it is interesting that leftists will laugh at Christian doctrine while asking us to take
00:50:21.240
seriously the belief in mystical third-gendered people with sacred powers. This is not a comparison
00:50:28.280
that works in the left's favor. Though ironically, I think it's a pretty good comparison.
00:50:31.680
You know, it works in my favor. I think it actually is a pretty good comparison,
00:50:36.080
but not for the reasons that they think. Yes, it's true that the left's theories on gender are
00:50:41.440
really religious more than anything. They, the left, I mean, they see gender as this mystical,
00:50:47.720
supernatural thing. And that's how they come up with the concept of women being trapped in male
00:50:52.420
bodies and so forth. If they would just come out and admit this, you know, if they would admit it and
00:50:57.720
say that this is their religion, then I would say, fine, you're entitled to your religious beliefs,
00:51:02.300
but don't try to force it on me and keep it out of the schools. But they won't, they won't admit
00:51:08.020
that it's a religious belief, even as in this case, they themselves compare it to the religious
00:51:12.560
beliefs of other cultures. So that's one problem. Second, finally, notice something else about all
00:51:19.180
these examples. In these other cultures, they may have men who take on a feminine appearance or
00:51:24.440
women who take on a masculine appearance, but they don't think that the men actually are women
00:51:29.140
or the women actually are men. The Toms in Thailand are women with a masculine style.
00:51:35.220
We used to have that here too. They were called Tom boys, but in order to be a Tom or Tom boy,
00:51:40.640
you have to be a woman with a masculine style. The fact that you are a woman is an essential ingredient.
00:51:47.740
It's what makes you that. In our culture, we're now supposed to believe that the women with
00:51:53.000
masculine styles are actually in reality, literally men, which means that they aren't
00:51:58.940
women with masculine styles at all, but just men with regular style. The very thing that makes them
00:52:04.840
different and supposedly special is removed by saying that they are the thing that they're
00:52:09.840
dressing up as. This is the difference between our culture and every other one on the list. In every
00:52:15.280
case, there are people of one sex in these other cultures. There are people of one sex who,
00:52:20.200
for one reason or another, dress up as or act as members of the opposite sex, but nobody thinks
00:52:25.580
that they actually are members of the opposite sex. The whole point is that they aren't, but are
00:52:31.040
acting like it. That is completely different from what we do here now. All of this highlights,
00:52:39.060
all it really highlights is that, in fact, the modern Western idea of gender is entirely
00:52:44.320
unprecedented. It is a completely new, unheard of thing in the world. The idea that a man can actually
00:52:52.040
become a woman, not simply act like one or play the role of one, but become one, be one, is new
00:52:59.280
and false. And this line of argument, presented by our friends at Openly, only underscores that very
00:53:06.320
fact. It makes precisely the opposite point that it was trying to make. It proves the argument it was
00:53:12.160
meant to debunk. So it is a very bad, stupid argument for them to present, but I appreciate it.
00:53:19.900
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