Rioting ravages another American city after a black man is killed by police. Yet, hundreds of white people have been killed by cops over the past year, and there has not been one protest or riot over any of them. What does that tell us? Also, five headlines: The media is already beginning to preemptively slander the jurors in the Derek Chauvin case, and the Governor of Arkansas continues his media tour to try and justify his support for child castration. Also, polls show that many Americans would like The Rock to run for President. Why? We ll talk about that, plus our daily cancellation, and much more, today on the Matt Wall Show.
00:13:30.220What frightens him? He's just discovered how juries work. He never knew how juries this,
00:13:37.420this guy, I don't know what this guy's name is. Um, we'll just, we'll just for simple, simple,
00:13:42.480you know, to make it simple, we'll just call him a moron because that's what he is. So this moron
00:13:46.900has just discovered how juries work in the United States. That's what, that's what frightens him.
00:13:53.460What frightens him is that the jury is objective. You know, it scares me. Is it going to be objective?
00:13:58.080You know, what really frightens me in this case is that the juror, the jury, um, didn't go into this
00:14:03.480with a verdict already in mind. They didn't go into this with preconceived assumptions.
00:14:10.800And by the way, they probably did. Okay. Um, we, we can't really know what's going on inside their
00:14:16.000minds, but here, here's what he is worried that the jury selection process may have worked exactly as
00:14:27.180it's supposed to work. Now, if you care about things like justice and truth and, you know,
00:14:33.660the, the rule of law, uh, which of course nobody on MSNBC does, but if you do,
00:14:38.180then your concern about jury selection in any case is the opposite of that.
00:14:43.320What you're worried about is that there are people who slip through the cracks who already made up
00:14:47.560their mind before going in. And there's no way to, you can go through the whole process of jury
00:14:51.460selection. You're going to end up, especially with a high profile case, you could very easily end up
00:14:55.780with people like that. The whole jury could be people that have already made up their mind.
00:14:58.900How do you know? Can't know for sure, but that should be the worry.
00:15:04.460He's concerned that they might be ignorant about the case going in. Yeah, moron. That's exactly how
00:15:09.760it's supposed to work. You want to find people who never heard of the case. And then the first time
00:15:16.860they're hearing about it is when they're hearing both sides presented in a court of law. It's very
00:15:21.680difficult to find those kinds of people, especially with a case like this, but that's what you're
00:15:24.820supposed to look for. This is just like, this is as dumb as who was it? Chelsea Handler who sent out
00:15:35.800a tweet a few weeks ago saying that it's outrageous that we would be giving Derek Chauvin a trial when
00:15:41.700we all saw the crime on video. What kind of country is this where we give a man a trial?
00:15:47.100What kind of country is it where we can't just take him out back and, you know, put one in his head
00:15:51.980behind the shed somewhere? She, she was, she was outraged by the simple fact of someone receiving
00:16:02.080a trial in front of a jury of their peers. And he's outraged by the same thing.
00:16:08.060This is just, I mean, we can laugh about it because it's so stupid. You know, maybe I should,
00:16:12.700I should pause and step, step back and even apologize. I've been calling him a moron this
00:16:19.080whole time and I shouldn't be saying that because that lets him off the hook, you know, to call him
00:16:24.680a moron or Chelsea Handler. Well, Chelsea Handler probably really is just a moron, but moron lets
00:16:30.820them off the hook. I mean, they know better. This is evil. This is an evil person who you just heard
00:16:37.180there. He obviously knows how juries work and that that is how a jury is supposed to work.
00:16:45.900But he is setting up ahead of time to try to ruin these people's lives. If they don't
00:16:51.060come to the verdict that, that, um, you know, he arrived at a verdict in his head
00:16:55.900a second after seeing the video, didn't need any additional information, nothing. He already decided.
00:17:02.000In fact, he decided the verdict on the George Floyd case before it even happened.
00:17:15.500Okay. He had decided that morning when George Floyd was still alive and walking around,
00:17:21.400he had decided a year before that. Okay. He, cause he's already decided that if a white police officer
00:17:28.660kills black men, it is racism, period. He's already decided that. And he wants jurors who
00:17:36.520have the same delusion that he does. Absolutely contemptible. It really is because think, I
00:17:44.420mean, these jurors, man, you talk about a lose, lose situation, you know, and, and their whole
00:17:54.800lives at the, after this probably going to be ruined because of guys like that. All right,
00:18:01.160let's move on. Number two. Okay. I wanted to play this. Um, so we have another alleged police
00:18:06.940brutality video that, that went viral and a lawsuit has been filed by the alleged victim.
00:18:13.800Lieutenant Karen Nazario of Virginia is a army Lieutenant. He obviously didn't die. Hence he,
00:18:20.640you know, filed a lawsuit personally, but he was pepper sprayed and taken to the ground during a
00:18:24.920traffic stop. Recently, the full video is several minutes long. We can't play the whole thing,
00:18:28.620but, um, as always, we'll play part of it. As always, the video fails to show what led up to this.
00:18:35.120Um, but here's the part or part of the part that we are able to see. Let's watch what's going on.
00:18:41.340You're fixing to ride the lightning, son. Get out of the car now. Get out of the car now. Get out of the car.
00:18:52.820Sir, just get out the car. Work with us and we'll talk to you. Get out the car. You received our order.
00:18:58.340Obey it. I'm, I'm, I'm honestly afraid to get out. Can I? Yeah, you should be. Get out. Get out. Get out.
00:19:05.340He's got his hands out the window, but he's not, he's not getting out of the car. Now. I have not committed any crime. You're being stopped by a traffic violation. You're not cooperating at this point right now.
00:19:13.740You're under arrest for, you're being detained. Okay. You're being detained for obstruction of justice.
00:19:18.020I take violation. I do not have to get out. You haven't even told me why I'm being stopped.
00:19:22.500Really? Get out of the car now. Get out of the car. Get out of the car. Get your hands off me. Get your hands off me.
00:19:28.060You know what? Get your hands off me. Not a problem. Get back up, Daniel. I didn't do anything. Don't do that.
00:19:34.100Sir, get out of the car now. Hey, sir. Get out of the car now. Sir, I'm trying to talk to you. Get out. Okay. I'm trying to talk. Get out.
00:19:40.540Just get out of my car. Can you please relax? Get out. Get out of the car right now. Now.
00:19:45.840This is not how you treat a vet. I'm actively serving this country and this is how you're going to treat me?
00:19:50.200Back up, Daniel. I didn't do anything. Back up. Whoa, hold on. What's going on? Hold on.
00:19:54.740Okay. Then he just pepper sprayed him. Like I said, there's a lot more to the video than that.
00:20:02.420You know, that was as much as we can play on the show. So the officer there that pepper sprayed, Lieutenant Nazario, has been fired.
00:20:15.300And already you could now, you watch video like that, especially just the clip we just played.
00:20:20.660But even if you watch the entire video, you can go online and find it.
00:20:22.860Again, you don't see what leads up to it. So there's still context missing.
00:20:29.920But that's enough to say, okay, it appears the police officers are, number one, you got two problems.
00:20:36.920Just as a non-expert, I'm looking at that. My immediate reaction is officers are being more aggressive than they need to be.
00:20:44.960And they also seem to be, they're kind of contradicting each other.
00:20:48.080Because the one officer is like reaching his hand in, is going to help the guy get out.
00:20:51.780And the other one's saying, no, don't reach your hand in.
00:20:53.280Like they can't even, they're not exactly on the same page. That's a problem.
00:20:56.540And the other officer is saying stuff like, you know, you're fixing to ride the light, lightning sun.
00:21:20.260And I thought what he had to say was, and this is always so incredible when you, on the rare occasion, when you get to hear something like this.
00:21:26.340Because here is someone offering their perspective on a alleged police brutality incident.
00:21:33.600And it's a balanced, reasonable, non-emotional perspective.
00:21:38.500And I really appreciated it for that reason.
00:23:05.140The cop at the end should not have said, don't report this because now it makes you seem like you're doing something wrong.
00:23:09.980So, I mean, there was wrong on both parts, but there was more wrong on the lieutenant's part who thought that it was now his place to start checking the cops.
00:23:49.060It's just, it's so refreshing because you rarely hear that anymore about these kinds of incidents.
00:23:53.640Because what happens is something like this occurs, and you have to, immediately, we stuff it into a certain narrative, and it can't, we can never have, you know, something happens, and it just happened, and that's it.
00:24:11.620And it's an isolated incident, and you come to any conclusion you want to, and then you move on.
00:24:22.720Everything that happens, especially if it's on camera and it involves police and a black man, everything that happens, it's a national crisis.
00:24:33.480It's a symptom of some great, you know, some deep-seated problem.
00:24:41.620And also, you have to put all the blame on one side or the other.
00:24:48.260And usually, taking police out of it for a second, in most human interactions that turn hostile, most of the time, there's going to be some amount of blame on both sides.
00:25:03.800Most of the time, it takes two to tango.
00:25:05.700It doesn't, again, it doesn't matter if it's police, it involves the police or not.
00:25:13.240If you're watching a video where interaction between two people escalates in this way, most of the time, it's not going to be only one party that is fully responsible.
00:25:26.360So, I think that seems pretty reasonable.
00:25:30.880And by the way, something not totally dissimilar to this actually has happened to me.
00:25:35.760I wasn't pepper-sprayed by the police, but years ago, when I think I was probably 19 or 20 years old, I was driving along residential neighborhood.
00:25:44.440I was getting pulled over for speeding, and I was speeding, I hate to admit.
00:25:49.520And the cop, you know, they put the lights on, and it seemed to me, okay, we're on a residential road.