Ep. 699 - Bad Things Happen When You Resist Arrest
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Summary
The body cam footage of Daunte Wright has been released, and we re going to have the uncomfortable conversation about that footage, and about Wright s death, that the media refuses to have. Also, some bizarre and chilling footage from the press conference with the Brooklyn Center Police Chief. The media on camera tries to convince him in real time that the rioting he just experienced was not actually rioting, it didn t really happen. The White House unveils its strategy to convince white conservatives to get vaccinated. And our daily cancellation will cancel the actor who formerly voiced the character Apu on the Simpsons.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, the body cam footage of Dante Wright's death has been released.
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Today, we're going to have the uncomfortable conversation about that footage and about
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Wright's death that the media refuses to have. Also, five headlines, including some bizarre
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and chilling footage from the press conference with the Brooklyn Center police chief. The media
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on camera tries to convince him in real time that the rioting he just experienced was not actually
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rioting. It didn't really happen. Also, the White House unveils its strategy to convince white
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conservatives to get vaccinated. It's as cartoonish and insulting as you might expect.
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And our daily cancellation will cancel the actor who formerly voiced the character Apu on The
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Simpsons and who now says that he wants to apologize to each Indian person individually
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for that character. You know that's getting him canceled. We'll talk about that and much
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Rioting continued in Minneapolis last night as looters, anarchists, and other assorted scumbags
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took advantage of the implicit permission they've been given to steal and destroy at will. We know
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this is the way it works now. If there's a police shooting, well, only a police shooting of a black
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person. Of course, as we discussed yesterday, police shooting of a white person, we're not
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supposed to care about that. But police shooting of a black person, what that means is that you're
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allowed to just go out and destroy things. That's the precedent we've set now. One store that got hit
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especially hard was a Dollar Tree in downtown Minneapolis. The store was ransacked, vandalized,
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and then set on fire. Now let's watch some brief footage of the aftermath. And even more importantly,
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I want you to listen to this clip. Let's listen.
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All right. You hear that? It sounds like people laughing and joking around after they just randomly
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destroyed a local business for no reason. The media tells us that the people who did this are
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emotionally distraught, angry, striving in their own unique way for racial justice.
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From the look and sound of it, it seems to me that these people just thought it'd be kind of fun to
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steal and burn some stuff. That's it. Now, all kinds of jokes could be made here about the whole idea
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of looting a Dollar Tree of all places. I mean, a store that already practically gives its items away
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for free and you loot there. But there really isn't anything funny about it. The fact is that low-income
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people in that city rely on the Dollar Tree and places like Dollar Tree for household goods and
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groceries. The, quote, protesters decided to speak out against police brutality by once again
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victimizing members of their own community. And they are protesters again, of course, just so we
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know. After a brief detour on January 6, 2021, we're back now to calling rioters protesters and using
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euphemisms like unrest to describe the mass destruction of property. So make sure to update
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your language guides accordingly. Meanwhile, the police on Monday afternoon, before the second
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round of rioting kicked off, released the body cam footage of the attempted arrest and then shooting
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of Daunte Wright. Initial reports were that Wright was pulled over for having an air freshener in his
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car. This was immediately translated through the demented translation engine known as Twitter into Daunte
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Wright having been shot by police for having an air freshener. As expected, none of this is anywhere
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within the vicinity of the ballpark of the truth. Not true at all. Wright was stopped for an expired
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registration. Not an unusual thing to be stopped for. I myself have been stopped for the same reason
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on more than one occasion, mostly because I have a deep phobia of sitting in the DMV and I'll put it off
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for as long as possible, basically until they pull me over and give me a fine. That's when I know that
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it's time to do it. In Wright's case, the cops, upon stopping him, found out that there was a warrant
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for his arrest. He was wanted on a weapons charge and had skipped his court date. Wright had a rap
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sheet extending beyond even that, including an arrest for aggravated robbery a few months prior.
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The Brooklyn Center police chief said that Wright was shot accidentally after he resisted arrest and
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climbed back into his car to try and escape. One of the arresting officers, a female, pulled her gun
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when she meant to go for her taser. Now, the body cam footage seems to fully support the claim
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that it was accidental. And this is disturbing, obviously, so I'll give you that warning, but let's
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okay so the main reason i want to play that because if you're listening to the audio you
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couldn't see what happened there but uh he they were arresting right and he and he broke free
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tried to get into his car um but it's what you hear her say at the end it's obvious from her
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reaction that she didn't mean to shoot him you know now that's no excuse of course and it wouldn't
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get her out of and i suspect it will not get her out of the criminal charges that are probably
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coming any officer that can't tell the difference between a taser and a gun shouldn't be on the force
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that's uncontroversial i think we all agree nearly everyone's on the same page on that score and there
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is i would guess near universal agreement that she should not have made the mistake she made
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everyone agrees she'll now be held accountable for that mistake if we were interested in making
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actually useful reforms to the police however what we talk about now is how a female police officer
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who obviously can't physically subdue suspects and also isn't competent with her service weapon
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managed to remain on the force for we're told now 26 years there's quite a lot of talk about police
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reform but this is reform the reform we really need and it's it's the one that we don't talk about
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it is a hazard to have cops on the force who can be easily overpowered by almost any male suspect
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that they come across um and that's going to put them in a position either where suspects get away
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or where they have to resort to a taser or a gun where more where a more physically well-matched
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police officer may not have needed to use either but again the police reformers on the left they don't
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want to have that conversation i mean a female police officer 26 years on the force um this now is a
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middle-aged woman she's not going to be physically subduing anyone and obviously not competent with
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her with her service weapon 26 years she made it
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but like i said we don't want to talk about that even less do we want to talk about and have the
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conversation about dante wright's behavior now i realize that by saying what i'm about to say i put
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myself in line for all kinds of angry accusations that i'm a heartless victim blaming sob and so forth
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but the truth is that i actually don't want people to die talk about an uncontroversial view
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what should be uncontroversial i don't want people to die i don't want people to be shot by the cops
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i don't want cops to end up in the position that this female officer is now in i don't want any of this
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it's all bad everything about this is bad i don't want any of it and anyone who feels this way
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who actually wants to preserve human life along with peace and law and order while we're at it
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would acknowledge the following reality which is this if dante wright had not resisted arrest
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he would be alive today period he was wanted on a valid warrant okay this wasn't some ticky-tack
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thing this was not him getting shot in the process of a traffic stop no he was found in possession of
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a firearm that's what the warrant was about that according to minnesota state law he was too young
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to possess also he has a history of drug and robbery arrests which would probably make him
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ineligible for a permit i imagine what this all means is that he broke the law and the police have
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a right and responsibility to bring him in they were doing so peacefully without a problem okay until
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wright pushed the officer away and tried to speed away in his car planning i suppose to lead the
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officers on a high speed chase with a passenger in the vehicle with him this was a very bad plan
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it is a plan with literally no possible positive outcome if you're wanted on a warrant and then you
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run from the cops absolute best case scenario is that you end up getting apprehended a little bit
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later and now you have a whole slew of new charges on top of the original one you buy yourself maybe a
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few minutes of extra freedom in exchange you get a few years extra in prison so best case scenario
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when you do what dante wright did there is you go to prison for longer that's best case worst case
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is what happened to dante wright there is no plausible scenario where wright runs away and actually
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evades the police successfully and then lives happily ever after that's not going to happen it's either
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prison or the hospital or the morgue the moment that dante wright pushed the police officers away
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and got back in his car he made a decision that was absolutely guaranteed to lead to the hospital the
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prison or the morgue no other possible options the only outcomes when you do what wright did
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which means that if we want young men like wright to avoid prisons and avoid the hospitals and
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avoid the morgues and i do then our message should be don't do that am i saying that wright is
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partially responsible for his own death yes of course he is he made a choice a bad choice any legal choice
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that set off a series of events which resulted in his death does that absolve the police officer no
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you know two people can be responsible for an event that happens that that is quite often the case
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so she is also responsible there's lots of responsibility to go around but when you absolve
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wright and people like wright when you absolve him completely
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all you're doing is encouraging more dante wright's which means more death and more suffering
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and more mother's mourning you are not the compassionate one in that case
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you may get to play the compassionate one on the internet or out in the streets when you're protesting
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quote-unquote but in truth you are a callous and amoral person because you don't really care you
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would rather stand on dante wright's grave and posture than actually do and say things that
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might discourage the next young man for making the same self-destructive choice
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but we're all expected to play this game right the media tells us that dante wright was shot during a
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traffic stop as if there is no difference at all between a man who gets shot in the head executed
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simply for going 12 miles over the limit like he's speeding the cops walk over and just shoot him dead
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and say that's what you get for speeding you know they want it they want us to pretend that there's
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no difference between that and a wanted fugitive fugitive who pushes the police away and tries to
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speed off in his car when they're arresting him we're supposed to see the latter scenario as
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identical to the former when we know that they are not identical this is just another common sense
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insight that many people are hectored into pretending that they don't see or understand
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and as we refuse either due to cowardice or ideological commitments or whatever else
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to acknowledge the very clear role that the george floyd's and dante wrights of the world play in
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their own demises more and more suffer that same demise their lives don't actually matter to the
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at home there was um i had a difficult moment with my daughter few last week we were sitting down on
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the couch it's kind of a kind of a parenting scare i guess we were sitting down on the couch
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and uh she turns me out of the blue and she tells me my seven-year-old daughter she tells me that she
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wants to be a vegetarian and now the and she didn't know the word actually at first she said that
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she's she said daddy what's the when someone only eats vegetables and i said vegetarian and she said
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yeah i want to i'm that that's what i want to be of course i'm thinking to myself no daughter of my
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no daughter of mine is going to be a vegetarian but i you know i realized that there were there
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were signs leading up to this like for example uh earlier last summer we were out i was out fishing
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with her and she caught like it was like a bluegill or something and she pulled the hook out and i guess
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caused some internal bleeding it happened threw the fish back in catch and release and the fish
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bob back up to the surface and was just laying there right and then she pointed to the fish and
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said daddy why is the fish laying there i said oh he's probably uh probably sleeping you know took a
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lot out of him when you caught him and then it started bleeding and she said what but why what's the
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red why is it bleeding and then i had to admit well he's yeah you might have killed him it's okay
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though don't worry she and she was devastated by that absolutely devastated i think that was the
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beginning of her animal rights activism but anyway fast forward she tells me she's a vegetarian
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and i'm pretty distraught over that because i can't imagine having a vegetarian in the house
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but um the next day i'm talking to her again and she tells me that uh she decided that she's a
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vegetarian but she can still eat chicken nuggets so she'll make an exception for that and the day after
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that she said that well i'm a vegetarian but i can eat chicken nuggets but also of course like
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sausage and bacon with breakfast i can have that and then each each successive day she started adding
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more meat products onto her vegetarian diet until now she's just back she's a vegetarian who also
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eats meat which is fine which is perfectly valid that is a self-identity that i can respect
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uh and you know and her trajectory of vegetarianism i think follows a similar trajectory of a lot of people
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who you know announce themselves to be vegetarian all right um so number one the governor
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of minnesota yesterday gave a press conference talking about the dante wright case and um let's
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listen we'll just we'll listen in quickly to see what he has to say about this nothing terribly
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interesting it's a lot of what you would expect but to me the highlight is more what he doesn't say
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during the press conference so let's take a listen and so some of the things that we can do
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and and we need to be very clear about is um this state this community and this nation needs to have
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a place to grieve and to express in many places their anger that this continues to go on and their
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expectation that things need to be different and need to change and so our commitment of making sure
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that those that are exercising their first amendment rights and those that are asking no demanding
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that changes changes that are happening in other states like maryland we saw last week
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changes that are making a difference changes that are reducing the chance of these types of things
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happening um we need to make sure that that space is available and we also though need to hold at the
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same time that those that wish to do harm or destruction to property or to put people at risk
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it will not be tolerated and we have known for many months that as this trial and the focus of this
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nation was on this trial that there would be those that want to do both those that want to bring about
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change those that want to express their constitutional rights those that are angry heartbroken sad fed up
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tired all of the things that they have every reason to feel but we also know and we saw it again last
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night those that would try and take advantage of this to create chaos or damage will not be tolerated
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heartbroken i'm so heartbroken i have to steal these shoes i'm just so i'm so distraught
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i had what could i do but take these shoes it's my only solace right he says it's not going to be
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tolerated he said that and then that night they went and burned down a dollar tree and well first they
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stole all the stuff out of the dollar tree and then they burned it down and uh we played the video for
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people are just milling around casually laughing having a great time
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but that's see when he says we're not going to tolerate the destruction that's what he means what
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he means is um we will tolerate it actually you can do whatever you want we will uh maybe we'll send
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you a sternly worded letter condemning it or not even really condemning it because that's a little bit
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strong but uh asking if you would consider maybe not burning down buildings in the future
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but the real and he went on in the press conference as i said the real headline is what he didn't say
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and um here's one thing that he didn't say uh what he didn't say was this shooting had nothing to do
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with racism which it didn't clearly there is absolutely no reason to think that this had
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anything to do with racism they were arresting the guy because he had an outstanding warrant
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what else are the cops going to do when you have an outstanding warrant and um and then the shooting
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occurred when he started to resist arrest and the and the the cop pulled the wrong weapon now
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if you're if you're suggesting that race where does race come into play here
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there is no connection to racism whatsoever not only has the governor not said that but he's implied
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the opposite in fact um right after the event happened that night he sent out a tweet saying
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this is on sunday night i'm closely monitoring the situation in brooklyn center gwen and i are praying
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for dante wright's family as our state mourns another life of a black man taken by law enforcement
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clearly implying there's a connection to racism here another life of a black man taken by law
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enforcement he included the race there for a reason to imply that this is race related and all through
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the press conference that's what he's doing once again if you really cared about preserving human life
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and um and certainly if you cared about law and order then you would get up there in front of your
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people and you would say as the leader as the governor you would say this had this was a terrible
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thing it had nothing to do with racism whatsoever you know the officer will be held accountable for
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the mistake that she made which was terrible had nothing to do with racism dante wright was not killed
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because he's a black man in fact of all of the police shootings that blm has protested and by
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protested we mean um burn burn and destroy uh other people's property but of all those police shootings
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not a single one has had any confirmed link or even plausible theoretical link to racism not a single
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one they have been wrong about the racism link every single time year after year after year incident
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after incident they are wrong about that every single time and usually they're wrong about almost
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everything else they say about the case also now the police chief um i wanted to play this for you too
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he's he's uh uh giving his own briefing to the media and here he is um talking about the rioting
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and having the the people in the media the press try to convince him to his face that he didn't
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actually experience the rioting that he personally experienced what what led to you to issue a
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dispersal order and then on the back end of that 10 minute dispersal order then to issue out uh co2
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canisters and gas uh for the crowd so yeah just so everybody's clear i was front front and center at
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so i was we were being the officers that were putting themselves in harm's way were being pelted
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with frozen cans of pop they were being pelted with concrete blocks and yes we had our helmets on
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and we had other protection gear but an officer was injured hit in the head with a brick brick
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that was a hennepin county deputy he was transported to the hospital so we had to make decisions we had
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to disperse the crowd because we can't allow our officers to be harmed and i've already answered
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the question i believe about your lighting i know that's a that's a big deal with you and i understand
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that but i thought i'd explain that myself so that is i told you it's my decision and that's why i made
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that decision there was no rioting you could almost imagine them like a cartoon they've got the pocket
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watch out and they're hypnotizing him and they're hoping that he has the little you know squirrels
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swirls in his eyes there was no rioting there was no rioting um no there was he he was just there
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his officers were hit in the head with bricks there were buildings burned down we just saw the footage
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of looting that's going on i mean it it feels fruitless and pointless to even point out when the
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media is lying but what else are we gonna do but point it out you know let them do it and and and not
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even make the observation but the lying here is so brazen
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i i hate to keep using the term orwellian it's so overused but but in this case i i there's no other
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term that applies as well as that term does where they are lying to you about what you are seeing
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with your own eyes and telling you that you're not seeing what you're seeing
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there was no rioting it's it's not even like they won't even do us the favor they're insulting
00:25:00.760
our intelligence so much so they think they can tell us that there was no rioting at all rather than
00:25:06.580
a slightly more plausible lie or or you know taking the approach of saying yeah there was
00:25:11.980
rioting but it's justified for this and that reason that is also insane and stupid and wrong
00:25:16.660
but at least you're acknowledging some of the reality in that case now as it happens from the left we
00:25:23.160
actually get both of those things on one hand they tell us that there's no rioting on the other
00:25:27.080
hand they tell us that uh well if there is rioting it's justified it's not it doesn't exist but if it
00:25:32.720
does exist then it's here's why it's justified trying to play play both ends of it there all right
00:25:39.880
um this is a report from what is this from nbc and uh i'll read a little bit it's a long report
00:25:45.600
it says in semi-private encrypted chats neo-nazis and other far-right extremists planned planned rallies
00:25:53.400
and dozens of cities on sunday to promote their racist movements and spread their ideologies to
00:25:58.460
larger audiences hyped by organizers as events that would make quote the whole the whole world tremble
00:26:03.940
the rallies ran into a major problem hardly anyone showed up so this was this past sunday
00:26:09.140
the quote white lives matter rallies the first major real world organizing efforts by white supremacists
00:26:16.200
since 2018 were planned on the encrypted app telegram after many aligned groups were alleged to have
00:26:21.940
taken place uh taken part in the uh in the january 6th storming of the u.s capital the poor showing
00:26:28.320
underscores how the country's unpopular and disorganized extremist movements have been driven
00:26:32.800
underground by increased scrutiny from media law enforcement agencies and far-left activists who
00:26:36.900
infiltrate their private online spaces and disrupt their attempts to communicate and organize okay so
00:26:42.700
and it goes on it goes on forever after that but the point is this is nbc spiking the football
00:26:49.680
because there was uh supposed uh supposed quote-unquote white supremacist rallies that were that were going
00:26:54.940
to happen on wednesday on sunday now i don't know anything about these rallies at all i never heard of
00:27:00.120
them like like like anyone else like the first you hear about it is from the media so i don't know who
00:27:07.320
was involved in organizing it no clue um and this you really can't do this but taking their word for it
00:27:18.000
that there actually were quote-unquote white supremacist rallies being planned in the first
00:27:22.600
place let's just assume we can believe the media which i don't believe anything they say
00:27:26.440
but then even by their own admission here what they're telling us is that the white supremacists
00:27:37.320
can't even get hardly anyone to show up for a rally
00:27:40.780
okay and yet at the same time they want us to believe that white supremacy is the number one
00:27:50.260
threat we face as a society once again trying to have it both ways there's no rioting but the
00:27:58.000
rioting is justified and here uh look at these look at these crazy white supremacists uh the they can't
00:28:04.580
even get anyone out to their rallies also they're a major threat and um and it's the number one problem
00:28:09.460
we face as a society like which is it are these a bunch of fringe wacko morons who can't even
00:28:18.540
organize a rally or should we be living in fear of these people because white supremacy uh infiltrates
00:28:26.920
every aspect and every institution of our society it seems to me that it sort of has to be one of the
00:28:34.380
other doesn't it now as it happens i think the way that it's presented in this particular nbc article
00:28:43.300
nbc news article is is much closer to the truth white supremacy is not a real problem in the united
00:28:52.680
states the number of actual professed white supremacists there's another reason we have to
00:29:00.640
be careful because we also know that the media they call everything white supremacy and they also
00:29:05.480
think that any conservative is white supremacist so when they say a white supremacist group was planning
00:29:10.500
a rally i don't know what they mean i don't know if they mean just a normal conservative group or
00:29:22.920
the numbers are so low and it is so fringe that uh it's not an issue it's not something we really
00:29:31.240
have to worry about this is not a real problem in society the the the white supremacy has become
00:29:37.560
and we get this even from this particular nbc news article it's become the most delusional moral panic
00:29:46.260
that our society has seen in probably modern american history
00:29:52.420
the left is going around everywhere they think they see white supremacy around every corner
00:30:00.200
there are white supremacists lurking everywhere meanwhile there's like 10 of them
00:30:08.460
no racial supremacy in america is a problem but it's not white supremacy
00:30:17.280
that's not the kind of racial supremacy that's gone mainstream
00:30:22.800
and that's not the kind of racial supremacist movement that can attract thousands of people
00:30:31.200
and those are not the kinds of racial supremacists that are burning down buildings across the country
00:30:37.640
um let's see if you're if you're uh you know if you're out there right now think about getting
00:30:46.340
back to life eating and drinking in public again and all that dr fauci wants you to know that he does
00:30:51.160
not approve you must cease and desist immediately with your eating and uh your speaking and other
00:30:57.300
kinds of revelry and frivolity you have to stop that immediately he does not approve here he is
00:31:02.060
explaining why what is your message tonight to both vaccinated and unvaccinated americans
00:31:08.180
as to what they should and should not be doing right now for example
00:31:11.940
eating and drinking indoors in restaurants and bars is that okay now
00:31:16.480
no it's still not okay for the simple reason that the level of infection the dynamics of infection
00:31:23.820
in the community are still really disturbingly high like just yesterday there were close to 80
00:31:31.040
000 new infections and we've been hanging around 60 70 75 000 so if you're not vaccinated please
00:31:40.460
get vaccinated as soon as vaccine becomes available to you and if you are vaccinated please remember
00:31:48.380
that you still have to be careful and not get involved in crowded situations particularly indoors where
00:31:56.020
people are not wearing masks and for the time being until we show definitively that a person who's
00:32:03.580
vaccinated does not get the subclinical infection and can spread to others you should also continue to
00:32:10.580
wear a mask for the time being okay so once again you can't you can't do that you can do it
00:32:18.360
but it's not going to have the effect you're hoping when you say to all americans please get
00:32:24.500
vaccinated and by the way when you do get vaccinated stay locked in your home and uh live in fear of
00:32:30.720
crowded spaces and don't go out to eat and don't live your normal life because the rest of that
00:32:36.340
sentence you know it negate the the the uh the end of that sentence negates the first part of it
00:32:41.160
the only the only vaccination message and we'll get to here in a second
00:32:48.360
uh the biden administration and what they're how they're going about convincing people to get
00:32:53.500
vaccinated especially conservatives we'll play that in a second but i can tell you the only message
00:32:59.600
that will really convince people to run out and get vaccinated
00:33:04.020
is is if you're saying get vaccinated and get back to your normal life and not
00:33:10.860
get vaccinated or we won't allow you to get back to to your normal life
00:33:15.680
because when you add that compulsion into it that's going to backfire and it should
00:33:21.540
no if you're speaking look if you're dealing with people who just really aren't that worried about
00:33:27.960
the coronavirus then they're probably not getting vaccinated there's nothing you can say there
00:33:31.080
but if you're when you if we're talking about a a segment of the population that has been concerned
00:33:37.660
about the coronavirus yet they're hesitant about the vaccine and you want them to get vaccinated
00:33:43.860
and the message to them is get vaccinated get back to normal life you know then get back get
00:33:50.000
vaccinated and now you don't have to be concerned anymore and you can get back to normal life
00:33:52.860
not because we're forcing it but just because now you don't have to have those concerns
00:33:56.020
as i've said many times i my opinion on whether or not people should get vaccinated is i don't have
00:34:03.720
an opinion that's a decision you have to make on your own i don't i don't i don't when i look at
00:34:08.920
some other person i don't have an opinion about what shots they should go out go to the doctor and get
00:34:13.620
entirely their choice but if you're in the camp of we want to convince people you vaccinated then
00:34:20.380
this is the only message uh certainly it cannot be the message that we get from jen saki in the
00:34:25.060
white house let's listen we're also investing three billion dollars to states and community
00:34:30.160
based organizations to strengthen vaccine confidence in the highest risk and hardest hit
00:34:34.520
communities and often people uh think of that as just black and brown communities and that is not
00:34:39.360
as you've noted that is also conservative communities white evangelicals it's a range of
00:34:44.080
communities around the country what we found to be most effective is to work with these local
00:34:49.060
organizations so faith-based organizations community health organizations civic leaders and others who can
00:34:54.820
really get this message deeply uh in communities we've also had a number of our um members of our
00:35:01.480
covet team from dr fauci and uh and dr collins uh participate as an example participate in a range of
00:35:09.280
media interviews you know an example is dr collins participated in the 700 club dr nunez smith hosted a
00:35:15.720
faith leaders roundtable uh we're also looking for we've run psas on the deadliest catch we're engaged with
00:35:22.000
nascar and country music tv we're looking for a range of creative ways to get directly connected
00:35:28.000
to white conservative communities we won't always be the best messengers but we're still trying to meet
00:35:32.720
people where they are but also empower local organizations we're engaged with nascar country music tv
00:35:39.700
the deadliest catch well hot dog i seen that there psa on the country music television
00:35:45.160
guess i'm gonna go get me a vaccination that's a that's what they imagine as conservatives that's
00:35:51.880
what they imagine we're we're doing we're just waiting for a country music star to tell us
00:35:56.380
now we'll go get that vaccination now how about instead of treating people like morons speak to
00:36:02.800
them like adults and have the message i just said before get the vaccination get back to your normal
00:36:09.760
life though as i said that's going to be difficult for someone like me because i've been living my
00:36:15.240
normal life this entire time but for those who haven't that might be the best way to approach it
00:36:20.100
okay let's go to reading the youtube comments this is from j maran he says uh i'm uncomfortable with
00:36:27.040
the fact that every time there's an officer involved shooting the public just casually accepts that a riot
00:36:32.060
will follow the world is laughing at us this yes this is one of the many intolerable unacceptable
00:36:39.680
things that we are being told we have to just tolerate and accept i agree with you there um
00:36:45.060
william harper says same situation matt describes here what the police happened to me about
00:36:50.500
21 years ago a cop got behind me and turned on his lights we were on an overpass so i slowed down and
00:36:55.860
waited till we were off the overpass to stop about a third to a half of a mile he ordered me out of a
00:37:00.360
car handcuffed me took me in and charged me with felony fleeing with ten thousand dollar bond one
00:37:06.220
and a half year later one and a half years later two lawyers 30 hours of community service and fifteen
00:37:11.820
hundred dollars the charges were dropped cops can be jerks and can make your life difficult for doing
00:37:17.660
very little wrong sometimes yeah well that's i i said yesterday i had a i had a situation like that
00:37:23.460
where i waited too long to pull over uh because i thought it was the right thing to do i learned that it
00:37:27.640
wasn't but uh my experience was i got the speeding ticket and i went about my day you had a much worse
00:37:32.940
experience um but all this goes to show right that yeah there are cops out there that are jerks no
00:37:40.020
question about it there are also cops out there that will try to violate your rights there's also no doubt
00:37:44.200
about that but i'm sure you would agree william that if you had tried to fight this injustice
00:37:53.040
by punching the police officer then your problems would have been a hell of a lot worse
00:37:58.300
instead you fought it in court which is the right place to fight it and it it's it's annoying it's
00:38:05.020
worse than annoying you got to spend a lot of money it's probably rather than annoying it's infuriating
00:38:09.520
but you're in a situation now that you don't want to be in nothing you could do about that
00:38:14.620
now you have to think what's the best way of getting out of this situation
00:38:18.260
100 of the time the best way is through the court system
00:38:23.000
that's that is the best of all of the not great options right and sometimes in life we are faced with
00:38:30.420
with uh you know there's a fork in the road and neither option is great but one is a lot worse than
00:38:37.100
the other um shun chi says a much better argument i make as a mexican-american all the time mexican-americans
00:38:47.200
are killed by cops at the same rate why are they now what why are they are there now brown lives
00:38:52.840
matter riots because we know they probably were doing something stupid and got themselves shot and
00:38:57.560
we believe in family and hard work case closed well no i think um you know mexican-american
00:39:04.620
that's always an interesting category uh racially because from the media's perspective and the left
00:39:12.240
whether or not you get included you know as white or as a person of color it it really depends
00:39:21.300
on your usefulness to the left's agenda that's kind of how that works um
00:39:26.460
and uh william says our culture has lost a healthy sense of shame for shameful conduct
00:39:34.100
yeah this is absolutely one of the major problems that we face
00:39:36.900
that there there are a lot of people in this country who through conditioning
00:39:42.240
they simply don't feel the kind of shame that they should feel when they do shameful things
00:39:47.520
and that's why they'll you know you go in loot a dollar store what you're on camera the whole time
00:39:55.280
waving to the camera not only should you be worried about prosecution well i guess maybe you shouldn't be
00:40:01.160
worried about that in minneapolis because they're not going to prosecute you but at the least you should
00:40:04.240
feel ashamed of this this is a shameful embarrassing thing you're you're you're taking advantage of the
00:40:09.140
death of a young man to steal from a dollar tree where poor people go to buy their groceries aren't
00:40:14.220
you ashamed of that no not capable of shame and finally another comment says the experts say matt
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walsh has the best podcast of all time i also happen to be the experts well thank you for that and
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this is why i always say or have not always said but will now say in this one case trust the experts
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download the podcast and as always leave a five-star review if you like what you hear now let's get to
00:42:15.500
our daily cancellation today we're going to cancel hank azaria he's an actor best known for his work
00:42:23.280
on the simpsons a show which stopped being funny um in 1998 i'd say but has lingered on since then
00:42:30.180
wandering through the hillside way past its expiration date half dead flesh rotting slowly decomposing like
00:42:37.540
a zombie or you know joe biden now azaria's most beloved character was that of apu the indian-american
00:42:43.760
owner of uh quickie mart in the show this character caused really no controversy for about 25 years
00:42:49.980
there's no reason why it should have caused controversy yes the character was a stereotype
00:42:53.660
but then every character on the simpsons is a stereotype that's where the majority of the humor
00:42:57.560
comes from on the show or came from at least back when the show had humor as stereotypes go it was not
00:43:03.640
a particularly negative one apu was hard-working lovable charming he wasn't a dumb oaf like homer the
00:43:11.780
stereotype of a white suburban dad he wasn't a miserly decrepit old coot like mr burns the
00:43:17.060
stereotype of a rich white geezer he was a one of the more positive and flattering characters on the
00:43:22.880
show and that's how he was viewed by most people until a few years ago when we decided that it was
00:43:28.260
offensive or more precisely when i say we decided one guy decided that it was offensive and made a whole
00:43:33.240
documentary called the problem with apu explaining why it offended him now the appropriate response when
00:43:40.760
someone makes a documentary to complain about a cartoon character that offended him is some mixture
00:43:46.460
of confused glaring and derisive laughter but the simpsons reaction eventually was to apologize
00:43:52.680
and to get rid of the character entirely and that brings us to hank azaria who eventually stepped
00:43:57.480
down from the role and has been on apology tour to make amends ever since he desperately wants people
00:44:02.600
to forgive him for playing this character reason recently he appeared on a podcast called armchair
00:44:07.880
expert hosted by dax shepherd and uh someone named mona the conversation inevitably turned to the
00:44:14.020
apu controversy and the discussion the discussion became perhaps perhaps the most cancelable thing
00:44:19.480
that i have ever canceled on this show this conversation that you're about to hear snippets of
00:44:25.340
is excruciating but also instructive so we have to endure it together we'll get through this together
00:44:32.640
at least at least part of it so first i want you to hear how dax the host sets up the conversation i
00:44:39.760
want you to listen to this okay so one thing we have to talk about which i don't think you'll be afraid
00:44:43.920
to talk about at all but people who listen to this show obviously probably be aware of this and
00:44:48.420
obviously monica is also indian so this is a great person to be involved in this conversation what i know
00:44:53.960
of your response based on the movie there was a movie right the problem with apu yes which was a
00:44:59.240
documentary film calling out the character of apu and my voicing of it yeah and man you want to talk
00:45:06.800
about if it were me the temptation i would have to defend myself because i would feel like someone was
00:45:12.680
calling me personally a racist and my identity would be on the line like i'll fight to the death to prove
00:45:18.520
to you i'm not a racist the fact that your response was such that the maker of the film publicly thanked you
00:45:25.660
for how you responded to it again to bring it all back to a i mean it has to be in the mix right like
00:45:31.460
can you make that response without the work you've done listen to the language there i would fight to
00:45:37.660
the death to prove i'm not a racist and he would this stands in contrast to my own approach as someone
00:45:44.480
who won't even like fight you in a thumb war to prove i'm not a racist i won't i literally won't lift
00:45:50.420
a finger to prove i'm not a racist i won't do a single thing at all to prove i'm not a racist
00:45:54.300
and that's because i'm not a monkey with a tambourine marching around and making noises at
00:45:59.460
your best i'm not a a puppet dancing on your string i'm not a dog barking like man whatever
00:46:04.880
analogy you prefer it's not my job to prove anything to you and i don't care to i'm not going
00:46:12.160
to be held hostage by the bogus labels you throw at me and considering the fact that all white people
00:46:17.780
are called racist for literally everything we do and say all the time the term has lost all meaning
00:46:22.240
and power i don't care when people try to pin it on me it doesn't mean anything it has no impact
00:46:28.320
and this is how you really neutralize the labeling tactic if somebody says you're racist and you break
00:46:36.760
down in tears like dax here begging them screaming no i'm not i swear i'm not please believe me i'm not
00:46:42.840
they already win and you already lose the whole point of them calling you that was to get exactly
00:46:48.920
that reaction which is why it frustrates them so much when they say you're racist and you respond
00:46:55.300
with a yawn and say oh you think so okay well you're not going to deny it
00:47:01.480
they don't know what to do with that you're not following the script and you shouldn't but dax does
00:47:09.560
there are a lot of people like dax out there many of them named dax as it happens people whose
00:47:14.340
identities are so tied up in and dependent upon approval for mainstream society that they can't
00:47:20.440
bear losing it to lose that approval would be an act of suicide in their minds you know to to accept
00:47:28.280
the fact that people are calling you racist to them to someone like dax that is like committing
00:47:32.200
suicide it would be to lose everything that gives their lives meaning and value this makes them very
00:47:38.400
easy to control and manipulate and you hear that through the rest of this interview these two
00:47:42.920
grown men you know using the language of of 19 year old blue-haired feminist dance theory majors
00:47:49.540
that's what they sound like and and and groveling constantly to the woman on the show mona who is
00:47:55.740
apparently indian but let's listen to some of that if we can stomach it here they are groveling and
00:48:00.500
proving again how not racist they are uh in in their discussion with uh with the indian uh woman on the
00:48:06.280
show let's listen congratulating me for the response because i have a big part in creating
00:48:11.240
the problem to begin with so nothing takes that away except maybe an amends over time which i'm
00:48:16.980
attempting to make but and i'm interested to hear monica i'd love to i don't want to put you on the
00:48:21.320
spot nor don't put you in the position of a person of color having to like uh talk about any of this
00:48:26.480
be the mouthpiece yeah i may not want to but well this goes perfect she'll be consoling us by the end
00:48:32.000
of this which is the greatest pleasures a marginalized person can have i'm hoping to bring
00:48:36.900
a very take a side back door into white fragility and you take care of me
00:48:41.160
listening to that i was half expecting both of these guys to strip off their shirts fall to their knees
00:49:32.280
Apparently he thinks black lives matter. I don't know if you picked up on that.
00:49:37.640
If virtue signaling ever becomes an Olympic sport, we will have some of the best competitors on the globe, no doubt.
00:49:44.920
Speaking of virtue signaling, Hank Azaria went on to explain how he came to the conclusion that the cartoon character he voiced was racist.
00:49:51.120
This involved, among other things, attending seminars.
00:49:55.240
So I needed to educate myself a lot, because on the one hand, I didn't want to knee-jerk respond to, like, what could have been...
00:50:03.440
I'm like, is this 17 hipsters in a microbrewery in Brooklyn just deciding?
00:50:08.140
Or is this, like, a real thing? Is this, like, indicative?
00:50:10.960
I know it's just a cartoon character, but is this representative of an example, a true example of structural racism, at least as it relates to show business in this country?
00:50:28.640
I talked to a lot of people who knew a lot about racism in this country.
00:50:34.620
I kind of went back and forth and back and forth.
00:50:36.900
And I know from program to keep my mouth shut until I have some idea of what the hell I'm talking about.
00:50:43.320
Now, I'm disappointed that he doesn't provide more details on the racist cartoon seminars.
00:50:49.360
Are these the same seminars that explain how Pepe Le Pew promotes rape culture?
00:50:54.640
Maybe they need to have a whole separate event to cover that subject.
00:50:58.220
In any case, Azaria's main concern seems to be that he's contributed to spreading the stereotype about Indian people owning convenience stores.
00:51:05.300
When he talks about that in the interview, what he doesn't understand is that such a stereotype would exist even without the Simpsons.
00:51:18.400
Because lots of Indian people own convenience stores.
00:51:29.860
It takes intelligence and competence to be successful.
00:51:33.200
Especially when you have these scumbags running in and burning it down.
00:51:36.420
The real stereotype here is that Indian people came to this country and immediately became entrepreneurs.
00:51:47.480
How offensive to accuse them of being industrious.
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Now, admittedly, the Indian woman on the show, Mona, explains later in the show that the stereotype is only part of the problem.
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So she says that if there was an Indian person in every show, then Apu may not have been as much of a problem.
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But as it happens, Indian people don't appear very often on American television.
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Most Indian people don't become actors because they don't want to be actors.
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Many become business owners, doctors, engineers.
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She's worried about representation in Hollywood.
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And by the way, Indian people have their own Hollywood, too, and it makes billions of dollars a year.
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But her concern is representation on American sitcoms and stuff like that.
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What she doesn't explain is where we should siphon from in order to get these Indian actors.
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I mean, if you want a bunch more Indian actors, then you need more Indian people to become actors.
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We need a lot of Indian people who are doing other things right now to become actors in order to get the representation that she wants.
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So should we pull some of those Indian surgeons out of their jobs?
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Grab some of those Indian scientists and tech people?
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Both now extremely successful in their careers.
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Should I recruit them to become voice actors on cartoon shows instead?
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By the way, notice how Mona is worried about representation in Hollywood.
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But she isn't worried about the lack of Indian representation among, say, I don't know, garbage collectors.
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That's the funny thing about the people who scream about representation.
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The representation demands that they make are very specific and quite arbitrary.
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And based on their own personal subjective priorities.
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You never, ever hear them complain about the lack of female garbage collectors and roofers.
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And by the way, I've like never seen a female garbage collector or roofer.
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Why? Because the people doing the complaining don't think that those jobs are important or worthy.
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They think it's much more important to be on TV.
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Be all that as it may, Hank Azaria is still wracked with guilt.
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Indeed, he says in the interview that he wants to apologize to every Indian person individually.
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There are about 1.3 billion of them, last I counted.
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And, you know, maybe this would be a good way for him to spend the rest of his life.
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He can fly to India and, you know, walk through the towns and countrysides apologizing to each Indian person for voicing a cartoon character.
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He can especially, I think he should start, actually, by going into the slums in the cities.
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Find people in squalid, impoverished, destitute conditions.
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Starving, dying, in need of basic human necessities.
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And, you know, he can go up to someone like that.
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He can lean down to them and say, I am so, so sorry for that cartoon character.
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And in their eyes, he will perhaps see himself for the utterly ridiculous person that he is.
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And with any luck, they'll look back at him and say, among other things, you're canceled.
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