The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 725 - Another Celebrity Comes Out As Two People

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, another pop star comes out as non-binary and demands that we use 1.00

00:00:04.980 they, them pronouns. Lots of people, even conservatives, seem perfectly willing to go

00:00:08.720 along with the preferred pronoun thing these days, but I'll explain why we shouldn't and why the issue

00:00:13.320 does in fact matter. Also, five headlines including BLM finds its newest martyr, a 10-year-old boy

00:00:19.180 speaks out eloquently against the masking insanity, and airlines will start weighing passengers before

00:00:25.000 boarding. That'll be interesting. In our daily cancellation, I have the distinct honor and

00:00:28.200 privilege of canceling Chris Cuomo again, and I'll explain why all of that and more today on the Matt

00:00:33.560 Walsh Show. Lately, the pop singer Demi Lovato has been on quite the journey for publicity. Sorry,

00:00:48.000 I mean self-discovery. After coming out as queer, her word, and then pansexual, she's now decided that

00:00:54.660 she's actually, no, she's not that, she's non-binary, and she'll be using they, them pronouns

00:00:59.500 from this point forward, or at least until a trendier option presents itself. The mainstream

00:01:03.800 media has been all over this breaking news, and the headlines have been as weird and headache-inducing

00:01:08.260 as you might expect. In an article, CBS News article, confusingly titled, Demi Lovato announces they are

00:01:15.440 non-binary and changing their pronouns, they reported the following. This is a reading from the article now.

00:01:20.400 It says, see if you can follow along. It says, singer Demi Lovato has announced that they are

00:01:26.220 non-binary and are changing their pronouns to they, them. They said that the revelation followed a,

00:01:31.360 quote, a lot of healing and self-reflective work. In a Twitter video early Wednesday morning

00:01:36.060 introducing their new podcast, the pop singer says they don't identify as male or female. On their

00:01:41.440 podcast, Lovato said that, quote, it would mean the world if people used their correct pronouns,

00:01:46.780 but they will be accepting if people accidentally use she, her pronouns, and they just want them to

00:01:54.020 be making the effort. I can't even follow it, and I'm reading it. Now, look, if you went into a coma

00:02:00.160 sometime in the year 2015 or so and had just now woken up, the preceding paragraph would be rather

00:02:05.120 bewildering. You would be forgiven for assuming that Demi Lovato is the name for some sort of group or

00:02:11.320 collective. If you heard someone say, I saw Demi Lovato in concert and they were really good, you would

00:02:18.940 immediately conclude that Demi Lovato is an entire band, not one single person. This conclusion would be

00:02:24.600 justified as it would be based on the rules of the English language. Little would you know that Demi

00:02:29.640 Lovato is a single individual, and also, by the way, that she's not that good in concert. For the record,

00:02:34.760 here is Lovato herself, or themselves, explaining why she slash they has slash have made this change.

00:02:45.260 This is 4D with Demi Lovato.

00:02:52.680 Living in the fourth dimension means existing consciously in both time and space, but for me,

00:02:57.860 it means having conversations that transcend the typical discourse. I want to take this moment to

00:03:03.080 share something very personal with you. Over the past year and a half, I've been doing some healing

00:03:07.620 and self-reflective work, and through this work, I've had the revelation that I identify as non-binary.

00:03:13.640 With that said, I'll officially be changing my pronouns to they-them. I feel that this best 1.00

00:03:18.620 represents the fluidity I feel in my gender expression and allows me to feel most authentic

00:03:22.980 and true to the person I both know I am and still am discovering. In this first episode, I'm excited to

00:03:29.380 share with you what this means to me and what it may look like for other people. I want to make it

00:03:34.280 clear that I'm still learning and coming into myself, and I don't claim to be an expert or a

00:03:39.160 spokesperson.

00:03:40.540 Now, it's helpful that she began her explanation the way that she did so that it would be painfully

00:03:45.480 clear that the whole thing is nothing but ridiculous psychobabble. Living in the fourth

00:03:49.700 dimension means existing consciously in both time and space. What is that supposed to mean?

00:03:54.080 What other option do we have but to exist consciously in both time and space? Can I exist

00:03:59.660 consciously in space but not time? Can I exist in neither space nor time? Can I be a spaceless,

00:04:06.140 timeless, shapeless vapor floating aimlessly through an eternal abyss? I suppose it's only a matter of time

00:04:12.700 before Demi Lovato assumes that identity for herself or for themselves. As I've often argued,

00:04:19.300 the proliferation of these ambiguous alternative identities is really, when it comes down to it,

00:04:24.240 a proliferation of narcissism. Lovato can't explain what identifying as non-binary means. 0.54

00:04:31.000 She can't tell us how she arrived at this conclusion about herself. None of this can be made coherent

00:04:36.080 because it doesn't really mean anything. What she's trying to say, actually, is that she is more

00:04:42.200 complex and interesting than the average person. She's not sure who she is exactly, but she's sure

00:04:49.180 that whoever she is, she must not be what everyone else is. Her identity transcends all labels except

00:04:56.860 the 15 different labels she's given herself over the last six months. But look, that's all her concern.

00:05:03.360 She's free to play whatever word game she wants to play. She's free to make whatever claims about

00:05:08.240 herself that she wants to make. The problem is that we are not simply asked to leave people alone

00:05:15.740 and let them live how they want and identify how they want. That used to be the request or what

00:05:22.100 seemed like a request at the time to some people. Just let people live how they want. Let them be,

00:05:28.420 right? It's not the case anymore. It's now demanded that we participate, that we take active roles in

00:05:36.920 affirming and supporting the self-identity of strangers. I'm fine with leaving people alone.

00:05:43.080 If I heard through the grapevine that my neighbor, three doors down, identifies as a cantaloupe,

00:05:48.440 I'm not going to go knock on his door and scream at him to leave his cantaloupe fantasies behind.

00:05:53.220 You're not a cantaloupe, damn it! I wouldn't do that. But if I'm told that I must in any way affirm

00:05:59.980 or reinforce the cantaloupe delusion, then I will have to respectfully decline. He can think whatever he

00:06:07.700 wants, but he can't force me to think it or to pretend that I think it. I'm not intruding on his

00:06:14.380 life when I protest or resist such an imposition. I am stopping him from intruding on mine. He might

00:06:22.180 live in a world where men can be cantaloupes, but I don't. I live in the real world and I'd like to

00:06:28.940 remain here. That's my lifestyle choice and I will insist that it be respected. And so it goes with

00:06:36.320 pronouns. A pronoun is a grammatical construct. It's part of language. It's not a pet that you

00:06:45.200 can own. It's not your pet goldfish. It's not a fashion accessory that you can wear. You don't

00:06:51.340 get your own pronouns just as you don't get your own prepositions or your own adverbs. I suppose a

00:06:58.900 man might have a special affinity for the preposition on, but that doesn't change what

00:07:04.360 the word on means. If he is not sitting on a chair, but says that he identifies as sitting on

00:07:10.920 it because his preferred preposition is on, that wouldn't change his actual physical relationship

00:07:16.680 to the chair in real life. And by demanding that we all pretend that the word on means off and off

00:07:22.780 means on, he is the one trying to impose himself on us or off of us as the case may be. For the sake

00:07:30.840 of preserving language as a tool for conveying meaning, which is the whole reason why language exists

00:07:37.220 in the first place, we would have to resist those efforts. In the English language, the word he

00:07:44.860 is a pronoun that refers to males. She refers to females. That's how it works in English.

00:07:53.140 They refers either to multiple people or to an unknown person. It would be perfectly valid to say, 0.86

00:07:59.880 for example, look, someone left their wallet here. I hope they come back for it.

00:08:05.140 Or I hope they don't come back for it if you're a less honest person. But it would not be valid to say,

00:08:10.780 look, my friend George left their wallet here. I hope they come back for it.

00:08:15.320 That doesn't make any sense because I know who George is. I know that he's male.

00:08:21.360 I know that he's only one person, not Siamese twins. The word they in that context would be

00:08:27.160 deceptive and confusing, and it would fail to convey meaning, which again is the entire point of

00:08:33.900 language. In fact, they in that context, let's say that my friend George is non-binary, whatever

00:08:40.380 exactly that means. And I use the word they. What am I actually saying? What meaning am I conveying?

00:08:48.560 Because he's a male and he's only one person. So they in that context is referring to his perception

00:08:55.980 of himself. It's referring to his feelings about himself. But that is not what pronouns are supposed

00:09:05.260 to do. Pronouns are not concerned with your self-perception or how you feel. We have language.

00:09:14.660 We have words that can talk about that. But when we are using pronouns, it is a reference to who an

00:09:23.400 individual actually is. Not how they see themselves. Not how they feel. That's irrelevant to the pronoun.

00:09:30.940 Now, it's true that language evolves over time, but the preferred pronoun phenomenon is not an example

00:09:40.180 of linguistic evolution. Let's be very clear about this. The people pushing this change are indeed

00:09:46.840 pushing it. They're not just observing that it's already happened. It is a top-down change. It's not

00:09:54.040 inorganic development. The cultural powers that be have decided that certain words should no longer

00:10:00.820 mean what they have always meant, though they can't be bothered to tell us what those words

00:10:04.180 should mean now instead. They are, by force and coercion, attempting to remove the meaning from words

00:10:10.140 without replacing the words with new meaning. Language develops naturally over time in order to

00:10:17.020 better convey meaning. In our case, language is being manipulated intentionally in order to make it

00:10:22.600 less meaningful. That is a very, very different thing.

00:10:30.060 Why does all this matter? I would hope it'd be obvious by now. Language matters. We cannot have a human

00:10:37.960 society without it. Truth matters. We cannot have a society worth living in without it. We are witnessing

00:10:46.740 an attack on both language and truth, and thus on society. And that matters.

00:10:54.340 And it only requires a little backbone to oppose it. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:12:22.260 I want to play this first. This is not a headline, really, but I got to play it anyway. The giant toad,

00:12:29.060 Bill de Blasio. Every other day, he's got a press conference embarrassing himself. And I didn't give

00:12:35.740 him credit, embarrassing himself in new and unexpected and interesting ways. So here's the,

00:12:41.280 if you're not, if you're only listening, you're going to have to go later, watch the video on

00:12:44.100 YouTube or on dailywire.com because you got, you got to, you got to see the visual to get the full

00:12:47.600 effect. But let's, let's play. Here's Bill de Blasio yesterday at his daily press briefing.

00:12:52.100 But the biggest victory for the Nets is yet to come. The Nets are stepping up for Brooklyn,

00:13:01.360 for the whole city of New York. The Nets are now going to be joining the battle against COVID

00:13:06.900 with a mobile vaccination site right outside Barclays Center.

00:13:11.400 He's, uh, so he's wearing, the problem there is not so much what he's saying. It's, it's what he's

00:13:17.580 wearing. He's wearing a ball cap and a Jersey. And, uh, he looks like, like Benjamin Button there

00:13:23.960 or something. He looks like a school guidance counselor at a pep rally. Now, you know what

00:13:29.260 he looks like? He looks like a, what am I looking for? He looks like a massive tool is what he looks

00:13:34.020 like. I can just imagine this guy in that outfit trying to fit in and coming up to you like,

00:13:40.600 Hey bro, did you catch the sports competition yesterday evening? Man, our home team really,

00:13:45.720 really scored some points. It was wild. I've never seen a team make so many touchdowns in one evening

00:13:52.280 in one inning. Incredible. That's, and this guy was, every time I see him, like what if you're,

00:14:00.760 and I know to, to try to get into the, to the mindset of a voter in New York city, it's, it's a

00:14:06.200 fruitless task and rather disturbing to disturbing journey into that mind. But, but what about him

00:14:13.160 when he's running for mayor? What about him made you say, Oh, I gotta, I need that guy in charge of

00:14:20.760 this city that I'm living in. I really want to, I want someone who lives in New York city to explain

00:14:26.480 that to me. If you live in New York city and you voted for Bill de Blasio, I, and I, and I mean this

00:14:32.140 sincerely, I'm not trying to attack you, even though you're an idiot. I, I really want to know

00:14:39.780 why, what, what about him did you like? Maybe, maybe it's me. Maybe I'm not seeing it.

00:14:48.360 Maybe it's not him. It's me. I don't know.

00:14:50.240 All right. Let's move on to our first real headline here. The latest BLM martyr is Andrew 0.98

00:14:56.620 Brown. He was a man in North Carolina who was shot and killed by the cops a month or so ago

00:15:02.560 while they were trying to arrest him. He was a drug dealer. He had, as always with these things,

00:15:09.420 he had a long rap sheet arrested dozens of times already. He was convicted of resisting arrest also

00:15:14.020 on like four other occasions, charged with resisting arrest on 10 other occasions. He was

00:15:20.740 shot. The media says while unarmed. And that's been the report. That's what we've been hearing from

00:15:28.060 the media for weeks now that there's another unarmed black man that was shot by the cops,

00:15:33.720 but that's not actually true. The local prosecutor held a press conference yesterday and announced

00:15:37.360 that the cops in the case will not face charges. And that has a lot to do with the fact that Brown

00:15:42.120 was not really unarmed. He was in a vehicle and he was using it as a weapon.

00:15:48.680 So that might technically count in the way that they figure out these statistics. That might

00:15:54.960 technically count as quote unquote unarmed, but in reality, he's not unarmed. He's got a weapon.

00:16:02.200 Which is this large metal contraption that he is sitting in and steering in the direction of

00:16:08.620 officers. Now I would play the body cam footage for you and I would like to play it, but, and it was

00:16:14.180 released yesterday as well during that press conference with the prosecutor. But if I do that,

00:16:19.120 I've learned that YouTube will use it as an excuse to lock the show down and put the, the, uh, put the

00:16:24.340 age lock on it or whatever. So I'm not going to do that. You can go and watch it online easily if

00:16:29.320 you want, but you can clearly see the guy in the body cam footage when the cops show up, whole bunch

00:16:36.320 of them. There's a whole bunch of them and they had their guns drawn because this is a known drug

00:16:40.520 dealer with a long rap sheet. And so they came in, you know, ready. Then he also someone who's,

00:16:45.620 who has resisted arrest many times in the past. So they're prepared for that. Um, they come in,

00:16:50.840 they're screaming at him to surrender. Instead, he gets into his car and drives it right at a group of

00:16:56.380 officers. That's when they opened fire and he was killed in the process. Now, Andrew Brown's family

00:17:01.420 though, is of course, asking the feds to get involved, which I would not be surprised at all

00:17:06.680 if they do. Uh, this is from CNN. It says the attorneys for the family of Andrew Brown Jr.

00:17:11.720 are asking the department of justice to intervene after a North Carolina district attorney.

00:17:15.660 So the deputies would not be charged in connection to his fatal shooting.

00:17:19.560 Uh, the attorney said in a statement on Tuesday, we certainly got neither transparency nor justice today.

00:17:23.960 We request that the federal department of justice intervene immediately.

00:17:28.100 District attorney, Andrew Womble announced Tuesday, the deputies who, who fatally shot Brown last

00:17:33.180 month were justified in using deadly force, a finding that the attorney described as an insult

00:17:37.740 and a slap in the face. Womble also played four body camera, uh, videos to the public for the first

00:17:43.420 time on Tuesday. Brown's family and community have called for a public full public release of the

00:17:48.540 videos since his death on April 21st. And now they've gotten it. It's been released.

00:17:53.960 Um, the three deputies who fired at Brown, a 42 year old black man while attempting to serve

00:17:58.100 warrants will also be reinstated and retrained. Uh, Wooten said, uh, however, he said disciplinary

00:18:05.520 action would be taken against the deputies who responded to the scene quote, while the district

00:18:10.000 attorney concluded that no criminal law was violated, this was a terrible and tragic outcome

00:18:14.100 and we could do better. That doesn't really make a lot of sense to me. If you're saying that

00:18:19.120 no law was violated, they didn't do anything wrong, then I understand he's trying to thread

00:18:24.140 the needle here and make a compromise and give a little bit to both, to both sides. There's

00:18:28.640 no point in doing that because either you arrest all of the officers and charge them with murder

00:18:35.160 and then convict them or anything short of that is not going to be satisfying to BLM.

00:18:43.760 So if you're not going to do that, then you might as well, there's no point in, um, throwing

00:18:50.200 them any kind of bone at all because it's not going to make a difference. And in this case,

00:18:54.460 it's, it's pretty clear. He gets into his car, you drive at a group of officers and he gets

00:19:00.860 shot. That's something that you do, you know, and this is something that I, that I've brought

00:19:06.500 up before, but, uh, it, it isn't discussed very often, but it's worth thinking about and

00:19:13.820 talking about. If we could just for a second, get away from analyzing the behavior of the

00:19:21.160 police officers, there's more than enough of that. We've done, we've done a lot of that

00:19:26.900 of talking about how the police officers respond, but what about getting inside the head of somebody

00:19:32.860 like Andrew Brown? Why would you do that? You're, you are a criminal. They're coming

00:19:41.320 to arrest you. You're committing crimes. Fair is fair. Okay. Um, and you've got, there

00:19:48.020 are, I don't know, five, six, seven, I'm not sure how many police officers there, but, but

00:19:51.960 a whole group of police officers heavily armed and they're rolling up in their vans. They're

00:19:57.440 out there. They got their guns drawn and you get in your car and you try to drive away.

00:20:02.880 What, what do you think is going to happen? What's the best case scenario in your mind?

00:20:08.920 How do you think this is going to play out? You, you must know if you are at all a sane

00:20:15.680 individual, you must know that the moment you make that decision, your chances of dying

00:20:20.640 have just increased 100 fold. If you had stopped right there and got down on the ground, put

00:20:28.260 your hands up and did everything they said, your chances of dying are basically non-existent

00:20:32.080 if you follow all their instructions. Um, you start to resist and then the chances go up.

00:20:40.820 You do something like get into the car and drive towards a group of them, even if you didn't

00:20:44.300 mean to hit them, which of course, as far as they're concerned, like they're not going to

00:20:48.860 know your intentions, you're driving a car towards them. They have every right to assume

00:20:52.740 that you're trying to hit them and you're a deadly threat and they're going to treat

00:20:55.120 you that way. But even if you didn't mean to, even if that wasn't your intention, you

00:21:02.340 must know that your chances of getting shot and killed have gone up dramatically. And if

00:21:07.500 you're not shot and killed, well, what then? So you get into a high speed chase, uh, the police

00:21:12.740 show up, the helicopter comes, you're not going to escape the helicopter. You're not going

00:21:15.700 to get away unless you're a secret CIA agent or something. You've got the whole plan ready

00:21:23.960 to go. You've got your go bag. You've got your, your passports, new identity. And even

00:21:29.600 then, I'm not sure you're getting away, but this is an action movie and you're an action

00:21:34.100 hero and you've got the whole plan in place. Maybe you do, but short of that, you're not

00:21:38.640 going to get away. All you're doing now is at best increasing your coming prison sentence.

00:21:45.840 Significantly. And yet that's the choice that Andrew Brown made. It's the same choice that

00:21:52.120 Dante Wright made. Most of the BLM martyrs, it's the choice that they made. So I think 1.00

00:21:58.680 our question should be, why don't they value their own lives? This is not about police officers

00:22:08.120 understanding that black lives matter. Police officers know that everyone knows that, but

00:22:15.980 Andrew Brown didn't seem to think that his own life mattered. So maybe we should be talking

00:22:21.480 about that. Dante Wright didn't seem to value his own life. He was willing to throw it away

00:22:29.160 for nothing. To throw it away in exchange for nothing, gaining nothing from it.

00:22:39.780 Maybe we should be talking, but we can't talk about that because all we can do is talk about

00:22:42.460 the police officers. All right. Number two, this is from Fox News. It says a 10 year old boy,

00:22:47.480 a Florida boy slammed his local school board during a public meeting last week, calling the district's

00:22:51.840 mask mandate unfair to kids during an emergency session on reopening guidelines.

00:22:55.580 The boy later identified as John begins by describing himself as a student at Felix A.

00:23:01.080 Williams Elementary School in Martin County. And we'll play the, some of his remarks in just a

00:23:05.440 second, but not to get, not the spoiler alert here, not to spoil the ending, but following his

00:23:10.140 remarks, the board voted four to one to keep masks mandatory for the remaining days of the current

00:23:16.080 school year. In spite of what he had to say, the kids pleading with them, can we take the masks off?

00:23:20.700 There's no reason for us to have the masks on to begin with. They elected to keep the masks on anyway,

00:23:25.100 but I thought, uh, this kid, I mean, he's 10 years old and, uh, this is pretty eloquent for anyone of

00:23:34.140 any age, let alone a 10 year old. Let's, uh, let's listen.

00:23:37.320 I expected school to be a little bit different in the beginning, but I didn't think it would stay

00:23:43.620 this way all year long. And I was surprised by the rules. A lot of them didn't make any sense to me.

00:23:50.780 Like the fact that we were not allowed to play on the playground or have student council or turn

00:23:56.300 to face each other at lunch. And we also have to wear masks outside at PE and on track.

00:24:03.980 I love my school and all, but my teachers seem really stressed and that makes me feel bad.

00:24:08.780 One teacher walks around with a clipboard full of referrals for any student whose mask isn't on

00:24:13.020 properly. It makes me feel scared. That same teacher yells at us having our mask down to drink

00:24:18.780 water while we are outside in car line. She told us we had to wait until we were in our parents' car

00:24:24.060 to have a drink of water. She had her mask down the entire time while she was yelling at us, 1.00

00:24:29.500 which makes me and all my friends very mad. My mask also sticks to my face when it's really hot and it

00:24:35.420 makes it hard to breathe. I feel like I can't catch my breath and that makes me feel claustrophobic and

00:24:40.540 anxious. It's really stressful. I finished taking all of my alpha says and I had a hard time focusing

00:24:47.820 with a mask on. A few weeks ago, I ran into my teacher outside of school. She didn't even recognize

00:24:53.020 me because she's never seen my face before.

00:24:55.900 That last part there is just sad. It's also sad that this is a 10-year-old boy making a far more

00:25:06.140 compelling argument against wearing masks than any adult on the other side of the issue has made

00:25:11.660 in favor of children wearing the masks. Because they've never made any argument at all, really.

00:25:16.780 It's their own fear and disregard for the kids. That's all it is. There's never really any argument

00:25:24.740 presented. And that was longer than that. He went on for two and a half, three minutes.

00:25:31.620 Again, 10-year-old boy laying out the case. This is why we should be wearing the masks.

00:25:36.340 Trying to explain it to adults four or five times his age. Makes no difference. They keep the masks in

00:25:42.660 place anyway. I was reading some of the responses online to this. And of course, there were people

00:25:48.900 saying, oh, he didn't write that. This is parents. This is mom wrote it and is using him

00:25:55.700 as a prop. I think that's really ironic because I guarantee you

00:26:00.980 most of the people making that claim about that kid that he's being used. He didn't really write

00:26:07.220 it. This isn't his choice. Most of those people are the exact same people who, if that 10-year-old boy

00:26:12.100 was identifying as a girl, they'd be applauding it. If that 10-year-old boy was dressed up as a drag queen, 0.99

00:26:17.100 they'd be applauding it. Now, in that case, it's not about the parents making a decision or the

00:26:21.500 parents using the child. But here, they have it exactly backwards, of course. Because normally,

00:26:28.300 I don't like it when kids are used to make statements. Political statements.

00:26:38.120 Statements of any kind, really. I think kids should just be kids. This is different

00:26:42.000 for a really obvious reason. He is the one directly affected. Okay, this is not so often

00:26:50.800 what you get. You get this especially from the left. The parents have their own political and

00:26:55.120 ideological priorities that have nothing to do with the kids. And they use the kid as a mouthpiece

00:26:59.420 or a mascot for their own priorities. It's not helping the kid at all. In this case, though,

00:27:07.000 the kids are the ones affected. They are very much caught up in this.

00:27:14.540 And we haven't really heard from the kids at all. They don't have a voice.

00:27:18.660 It's been all the adults arguing about it. And then finally, a kid gets up there and speaks for

00:27:23.520 himself. And you have a bunch of adults say, shut up, kid. Let the adults talk about

00:27:30.380 whether you should be muzzled for the rest of the school year for no reason.

00:27:37.640 I'm sure his mother, I'm sure his parents probably did help him come up with that. Good for them.

00:27:42.760 You know what they're doing? They're teaching their son

00:27:45.580 to stand up for himself, to speak up for himself.

00:27:51.760 That's an important

00:27:52.820 ability for a person to have, for a child to develop.

00:27:57.340 So well, well done to, uh, to the child and the parents, but not so much the members of the

00:28:04.800 school board. And you can't believe that they, they, they, I mean, of course you can believe it, but

00:28:10.140 they said too bad. They had no response to the kid, but too bad. Wear the mask anyway.

00:28:17.800 All right. Moving now reading from raw story, which is a leftist rag online rag. Um,

00:28:24.120 it says Jacob Chansley dubbed the QAnon shaman in the media is among the most famous of the capital

00:28:30.100 rioters who was facing federal criminal charges in connection with the January 6th insurrection.

00:28:34.120 Albert Watkins, Chan Chansley's attorney discussed his clients with talking points memo, talking point

00:28:40.560 memos, Matt Shuham, which talking point points memo is another leftist rag. Um, anyway,

00:28:47.580 so talking points memo has this quote from Matt Shuham or rather Matt Shuham is talking points memo.

00:28:56.400 Albert Watkins is the attorney. Okay. I'm all kinds of confused. Um, has a quote from the lawyer.

00:29:03.940 Again, this is QAnon shaman's lawyer supposed to be representing him in this federal case. 0.65

00:29:12.400 And this is what his lawyer says about him. This is the quote as much of it as, as I can read anyway.

00:29:20.960 He says a lot of these defendants, and I'm going to use the colloquial term, perhaps disrespectfully,

00:29:26.060 but they're all effing short bus people. These are people with brain damage. They're effing retarded. 1.00

00:29:32.960 They're on the damn spectrum, but there are brothers, our sisters, our neighbors, our coworkers.

00:29:37.500 They're part of our country. These aren't bad people. They don't have a prior criminal history.

00:29:42.920 They were subjected to four plus years of damn propaganda, the likes of which the world has

00:29:48.120 not seen since effing Hitler. Okay. That is the lawyer for Jacob Chansley, the quote unquote QAnon

00:29:57.540 shaman. His lawyer is saying that about him, that he's quote effing retarded and is a short bus person. 0.95

00:30:03.780 Um, leaving aside the demeaning and degrading language, uh, to, to people with learning 0.99

00:30:12.040 disabilities and so on this, if you want to understand why a lot of these people that were

00:30:18.600 involved in the Capitol riot, uh, why some of them are still languishing in prison, getting hunted down,

00:30:24.840 having these being charged with, uh, crimes that could carry 20 years in prison, clearly way beyond

00:30:32.980 what is, what is justified according to the law. And, uh, it, this, this helps clarify it a little

00:30:39.260 bit because this is, you know, this is the kind of caliber of lawyer they're able to get to represent

00:30:45.120 them. They have the entire system against them so much so that even their lawyer is against them.

00:30:54.840 It does make me wonder, um, speaking of, uh, of these people, where, where is, where is Trump on

00:31:02.340 this? Why isn't he speaking on their behalf? These are his supporters that are being hunted down like

00:31:09.760 dogs and thrown in cages. The federal government wants to, wants to pin decades on them in prison

00:31:17.660 for trespassing. And doing that while BLM rioters, people who burned down police stations,

00:31:28.040 burned down convenience stores, assaulted police officers. Most of them have never even been

00:31:34.320 arrested. They're just out there. Some of them are still out in the street.

00:31:37.100 You have, you know, Antifa anarchists waging an assault on a federal courthouse for months.

00:31:49.200 Many of them never even arrested for it. Not once arrested.

00:31:56.520 While in this case, the entire force of the federal government is coming down.

00:32:00.140 There's no question. This is politically motivated. No doubt about as a political witch hunt. There's

00:32:06.200 no doubt. And it's outrageous. It's unjust. Um, especially when you compare it to the,

00:32:15.580 to the non-response, uh, to the BLM rioters. And so I, I am wondering what, why Trump isn't speaking

00:32:23.860 up on their behalf a little bit more. Has he said anything? And if he said anything, it hasn't been

00:32:31.980 much. All right. This is from, okay. This is from the daily. I'm, I'm almost, I'm regretting them

00:32:41.060 about to read this because it's such an upsetting and horrible story, but I'll read it anyway. It's

00:32:44.600 from the daily wire. It says an 18 year old, uh, an 18 year old snatched a sleeping four-year-old boy

00:32:48.660 from his Dallas home early Saturday morning and brutally beat him to death, leaving his lifeless

00:32:53.460 bloodied body in a street court documents and video surveillance reportedly show the child

00:32:58.720 identified Monday as cash. Gurnan was living with his biological father's former girlfriend.

00:33:03.920 Cash and his twin brother were left in the woman's care after their father disappeared in March.

00:33:07.940 The boy's biological mother says she doesn't did not know her twins were in the care of her former,

00:33:12.400 of the former girlfriend and had been searching for her boys. She is now with cash's twin.

00:33:17.940 Darren Brown, 18 has been arrested and charged with kidnapping and burglary.

00:33:21.500 More charges are expected as forensic is reviewed. The alleged killer's bond is set at 1.5 million.

00:33:28.000 Um, the daily mail reported that Brown was wearing an ankle monitor when he was detained.

00:33:33.900 So he's wearing an ankle monitor. He breaks into the house, kidnaps this kid

00:33:37.540 and brutalizes him and kills him and leaves him bloody on the ground, dead. This is a four-year-old.

00:33:46.500 Um, I'm searching for things I can say about this that won't get me in a lot of trouble.

00:33:55.080 All I will say, and we'll leave it at this, that this is why we need the death penalty for cases like

00:33:59.980 this. Public, a public execution, I think would be really appropriate in a case like this,

00:34:05.600 but certainly at least an execution of some kind.

00:34:12.040 This is, in cases like this, this is what put me over the edge to being pro-death penalty

00:34:17.460 after being against it for a while.

00:34:18.640 But there are some crimes that are beyond imagining. You, you, you can't even, you can't wrap your head

00:34:28.000 around them. They're so horrific that when a person does it, there, there is no other response

00:34:35.480 from a civilized society, but to rid society of that person permanently.

00:34:40.420 What would be the, anyone who's against capital punishment, what,

00:34:45.680 what would be the better approach? So we take Darren Brown, he's 18. You put him in prison and

00:34:55.560 you're going to need to put him in protective custody for his entire life. Of course, the other

00:35:00.260 option is to put him in general population and to tell the prison guards to just get a little

00:35:04.000 distracted for a few moments and look the other way and let the prison population do what it's going

00:35:09.020 to do. I'd be fine with that too, but assuming you're not going to do that. So you're going to

00:35:12.480 put him in, um, in protective custody, which is more expensive for the taxpayer for the rest of

00:35:19.120 his life. He's 18. He's going to, let's say he lives until he's, you know, he could live another

00:35:22.720 easily another 60 years or more, six decades of taxpayers, not only feeding and housing this guy,

00:35:31.660 but paying extra to protect him. And for what, for what purpose? What, what are we

00:35:38.960 going to gain from that? What does he gain from that? This isn't about rehabilitating him to send

00:35:46.120 him out back out in society. He's never going to be out in society ever again. So it's not that.

00:35:53.980 Is it about redemption? Is it about him, uh, you know, coming to confront the, his, his own heinous

00:36:00.240 crimes that, that, that can happen with a death penalty too. In fact, I think the death penalty

00:36:05.500 facilitates that when you know, when there's a date set and you know that you're going to die on this

00:36:11.200 day, it certainly gives you a chance, um, to confront your own sins. So I just don't see,

00:36:23.900 I don't see the point. I don't see the argument for keeping someone like that alive

00:36:26.300 for six decades in prison, just for them to die naturally. Anyway, I don't see it.

00:36:33.320 All right. Finally, this is from the New York post. Um, in a measure that will likely irk flyers,

00:36:39.500 airlines could soon require plus size passengers to step on the scale or provide their weight

00:36:44.060 before boarding the aircraft. The initiative, which was outlined in a recent federal aviation

00:36:48.920 administration advisory strikes to provide, strives to provide new data on average passenger

00:36:53.940 weights as the current numbers reportedly don't reflect today's sky high obesity rates.

00:36:59.420 And in turn, this would help ensure aircrafts, especially the small ones don't exceed their

00:37:03.260 allowable weight limit. So this is a little disturbing because what we're being told is that,

00:37:08.940 um, there's the standard weight limit for airplanes, but that was all calculated before Americans got

00:37:16.520 really fat. And so now it has to be recalibrated and we need to figure out just how fat everyone is

00:37:20.560 before they get on a flight. And so that's why people need to get, need to get weighed. All I ask,

00:37:25.160 this is the only thing I'm asking is that the weights be announced on the intercom.

00:37:29.540 We could do like a public weigh in before the flight, uh, or else maybe each passenger as they

00:37:34.880 board their weight could be announced almost like a boxer coming, coming to the ring. All right,

00:37:40.380 boarding now it's Mrs. Shelby Johnson weighing in at 195 pounds, something like that. I don't know.

00:37:46.560 And then the good thing is if you, when everyone gets on the, on the flight, if you realize that

00:37:50.660 you're a little bit overweight, then the captain could come over the intercom and say, okay,

00:37:54.740 ladies and gentlemen, we're, we're currently 267 pounds overweight. Fortunately, that means we 0.97

00:37:59.700 only need to lose one passenger, passenger in a 12 a you're going to have to leave. You know,

00:38:04.520 it makes it easier. All I'm saying is that the fly experience is already degrading and dehumanizing.

00:38:10.200 So we might as well go all in and it'd be a great incentive to lose weight also. Um, all right,

00:38:17.980 let's move now to reading the YouTube comments. This is from Robert McGregor says three of my

00:38:21.940 favorite thing things shrimp to eat the Matt wall show and Marvel's Avengers dude, you're tearing me

00:38:27.260 apart. Well, Robert, you have to, you have to choose. You can't have us all. I'm drawing a line

00:38:33.580 right here. It's me or the shrimp and the Avengers choose wisely. Autumn says my orthodontist office

00:38:42.540 is still making me wear a mask. Even though I'm fully vaccinated, they told me that they have to

00:38:48.220 wait until the board of dentistry says that they can change policy. Your orthodontist is telling you

00:38:54.000 to wear a mask. Do you have to wear the mask when they're doing, when they're working on your teeth?

00:38:58.700 I wonder how that works or no, because we know that's not it. You have to wear a mask in the waiting

00:39:02.980 room. And when you're walking into, um, you know, the room with the chair, but then you take the mask

00:39:09.540 off and they have, they have their, their hands in your mouth. Makes a lot of sense. Um, Justin

00:39:17.560 Pirro says at least some good has come of all this mayor Lightfoot is going to keep that mug covered for

00:39:23.280 us. And I can't thank her enough for it. Well, listen, that's very rude, but I also say, you know,

00:39:28.960 maybe that is one advantage of the, uh, people who are perpetually masking. Maybe we can assume

00:39:34.120 that they're all ugly and they're trying to hide their shame. So really, if you see someone still

00:39:38.840 masking at this point, cause I believe in empathy and everything, um, and I'm very compassionate

00:39:43.500 persons. I think you could, you know, assume that they're wearing it because they're ugly and just

00:39:48.020 walk up to them and say, listen, um, it's okay to be hideous. You don't have to be ashamed.

00:39:53.000 Take that mask off. I think they'd really appreciate that. Finally, Bill Zussner says,

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00:42:07.180 now let's get to our Daily Cancellation. So today we have the great privilege of once again

00:42:15.380 canceling Chris Cuomo. So after the Supreme Court announced on Monday that it would rule on

00:42:21.660 Mississippi's law banning abortion after 15 weeks, potentially putting Roe v. Wade on the chopping

00:42:25.720 block, the left and the media have been trying desperately to explain why we must not infringe

00:42:30.300 on a mother's God-given right to have her children dismembered. They've not done a very good job of making

00:42:35.480 this case, though. And although I should say in fairness to them, it's not really possible to make

00:42:39.840 a good case for such a hideously depraved thing. CNN anchor Chris Cuomo, continuing his lifelong contest

00:42:46.420 with his brother, Andrew, to see who can be the biggest embarrassment in the family, demonstrated this

00:42:51.100 difficulty during a monologue on his show a couple of nights ago. Cuomo spent two minutes laying out his

00:42:55.900 argument in defense of Roe, and the end result is a muddled, indecipherable mess of half-baked

00:43:02.420 talking points and ad hominem attacks. It was exactly the sort of thing we so often hear from

00:43:07.420 people on his side of the issue, which is why it might be worth dissecting in some detail. So we're

00:43:12.200 going to take this piece by piece and watch his monologue, and I'll respond to it. Let's start here.

00:43:18.620 All right, here is a bolo. Be on the lookout. We're about to see if Mitch McConnell's Supreme Court

00:43:23.860 mission pays off. It's now a six to three decidedly conservative court. And it now says the Supreme Court

00:43:30.640 of the United States that it will hear a case that could remove a woman's right to control her own 0.98

00:43:34.940 body. Remove a woman's right to control her own body? That might be a fair characterization if 1.00

00:43:40.860 Mississippi was mandating that women have chips installed in their brains that would enable the 1.00

00:43:45.080 governor to steer them around like remote control cars. But that's not the law at issue here. As far

00:43:50.740 as I know, no such law has been proposed anywhere. And if any law is proposed like that, I will oppose it.

00:43:55.080 The issue here is whether women have the right to destroy someone else's body. Yes, the other body 1.00

00:44:03.040 is dependent on their own body for survival. But does a body's dependence on your own give you the

00:44:09.580 moral and legal right to exterminate it? Even if that other body is your own child, do you have that 0.99

00:44:15.720 right? And if you say that a mother has the right to destroy any body dependent on her own for survival, 0.91

00:44:21.680 then, as we talked about yesterday, you must explain why that logic should not also apply

00:44:26.160 outside of the womb as much as it applies inside it. Born children are just as dependent and helpless,

00:44:32.920 especially at their youngest ages. Why shouldn't their dependence also negate their right to exist?

00:44:38.660 Or perhaps you think it should. However you sort through all of this, we should be clear that this

00:44:44.180 is the question. It is a question about a woman's rights over another human's body. 1.00

00:44:49.620 It is not a question about her rights over her own body. Just to be clear. Let's continue.

00:44:58.420 Dobbs v. Jackson, Mississippi, Women's Health Organization. It tests a state law that bans

00:45:04.780 almost all efforts to end a pregnancy after 15 weeks, including pregnancies resulting from incest

00:45:11.280 or rape. Legally, the issue is fetal viability. When does what is inside a woman become a person 0.87

00:45:20.340 with rights under the law? You would think we would have impaneled experts on a special commission

00:45:27.800 by now to see what the science says, right? But we don't seem to have the intellectual curiosity

00:45:32.480 about this issue because it's not really about science. It has become a culture war. It's a

00:45:38.060 political lever to use as a distraction from policy and solving problems to allow people to get up in

00:45:44.560 their religion and their righteousness over any sense of what science suggests.

00:45:50.780 Cuomo says that abortion has become a culture war issue, apparently under the impression that there

00:45:56.200 was a time when it was not a culture war issue. Even more absurd, he pegs pro-lifers as the ones who

00:46:02.040 shy away from the personhood debate. What he doesn't realize or pretends not to realize is that

00:46:07.160 we build our whole case around personhood. We advocate for personhood amendments and personhood

00:46:12.840 laws. We want nothing more than to talk about personhood. Though we don't want to leave the

00:46:18.600 issue up to a panel of experts, we've seen what a mess self-appointed experts can make of things,

00:46:23.680 and I'm not quite sure who the experts on personhood would be anyway. Cuomo believes that

00:46:28.340 the scientists can settle it. But all the scientists can tell us is that a person is a human being.

00:46:34.220 If you wish to draw some distinction between human being and person, then you are making a legal and

00:46:41.380 moral case, not a scientific one. You're also attempting the same trick that advocates of

00:46:46.240 slavery pulled, the same trick that has served as the foundation and justification for many of the 0.90

00:46:50.220 world's greatest atrocities and genocides throughout history. History proves that nothing good ever happens

00:46:54.860 when you attempt to draw a dividing line between human and person.

00:47:00.160 That is one of the reasons why pro-lifers are happy to stick with a scientific answer on this question.

00:47:04.740 A person is a human being, plain and simple. Anyone claiming otherwise has the burden of proof

00:47:10.260 entirely on their own shoulders. But the pro-abortion side has never tried to meet that burden.

00:47:16.420 They tell us that an unborn human isn't a person, and yet they won't tell us what a person actually is.

00:47:21.600 They're the ones who don't want to talk about personhood. They'd be even less interested in

00:47:27.120 commissioning a panel of experts than even we are. You think Planned Parenthood would welcome

00:47:33.520 an expert commission panel to figure out when personhood begins? You think Planned Parenthood

00:47:41.080 would want that to happen? You think NARAL would want that to happen? So Cuomo has this part of the

00:47:46.040 issue completely backwards, and he has every other part backwards too, of course. Let's keep watching.

00:47:50.120 Though medical capabilities may be moving the point of viability well short of what it was assumed to

00:47:57.220 be in 1973 with Roe v. Wade. So you'd think some of the proponents of harsher measures would want

00:48:03.420 the science involved. Most Americans want the court to uphold Roe v. Wade, which found women have liberty 0.88

00:48:12.120 over their own body as a right to privacy, a privacy right under the 14th Amendment. 62 uphold, 24 overturned.

00:48:19.800 But again, it's not about science or consensus. It's about dividing lines.

00:48:24.520 What? He calls for a scientific discussion, and then as if it counts as scientific evidence,

00:48:30.640 he appeals to an ABC News survey. What does that have to do with anything? Who cares what the public

00:48:36.220 thinks? He directly conflates the two, or at least puts them on equal footing, by talking about science

00:48:42.020 or consensus. He's not even referring to a consensus of scientists here, but a narrow and

00:48:47.160 limited consensus of random people who took an ABC News poll. What the hell do I care about? What does

00:48:52.580 that matter at all? What scientific weight does that have? If we're trying to figure out whether

00:49:00.120 an unborn human is a person, what, you want to decide it based on ABC News surveys? So things have gone

00:49:07.260 fully off of the logical rails here. Now it's time for the real train wreck to begin.

00:49:13.000 Legislating to the far right, white fright vote. Flooding the zone with 536 bills that abridge a woman's 0.98

00:49:22.120 right to control her own body in 46 states. It's just like voting rights in one way. You see?

00:49:30.500 It seems like the far right only cares about protecting humans before they are born.

00:49:36.220 Sure, why not throw it all in? I mean, the racist label, the voting rights talking point,

00:49:40.660 the thing about pro-lifers only caring about people before they're born. Put it all in the blender,

00:49:44.400 like a rhetorical smoothie. You might as well. Never mind that the voting rights issue has nothing to

00:49:48.580 do with anything. Never mind that pro-life racism is so bizarrely self-sabotaging. Black babies are

00:49:55.480 killed disproportionately by abortion. The end of abortion would mean a dramatic increase in the

00:50:00.260 black population. That is one strange racist conspiracy, you have to admit. Or perhaps it's 0.92

00:50:07.260 not a racist conspiracy at all. As for the claim that pro-lifers only care about people before they're

00:50:12.420 born, which is a boring and repetitive talking point we hear all the time, even if that were

00:50:18.480 true, it would still be preferable to the total disregard for human life so often displayed by

00:50:23.080 Chris Cuomo and his ideological compatriots. But it's not true, of course. It doesn't make any sense.

00:50:29.280 The whole reason why pro-lifers care about the unborn is that we draw no moral distinction

00:50:35.740 between them and born humans. That's our argument. If we thought that born humans had no value,

00:50:43.980 as Chris Cuomo suggests, then we'd feel the same about the unborn. Our entire position is based on

00:50:50.320 the premise that human life has inherent value. Inherent means you can't gain it or lose it.

00:50:57.120 You have it always. If we didn't believe that, if we didn't care about human life,

00:51:04.580 then we wouldn't be pro-life. This should be obvious, unless you really have convinced yourself

00:51:10.880 that the pro-life movement is nothing but a handmaid's tale plot to enslave women.

00:51:15.060 Another quite odd plot, we have to say, given that so many pro-lifers are themselves women. 0.95

00:51:20.680 I mean, go to the March for Life sometime, go to a fundraising banquet for a pregnancy resource

00:51:24.280 center, go stand a vigil at an abortion clinic. You're going to find a majority of women in all 0.97

00:51:28.700 of those places almost every time. It would seem that this is not a plot to control women's bodies

00:51:34.120 after all. It would seem that we pro-lifers just really do oppose the murder of defenseless and

00:51:39.340 innocent human beings. Who would have thought? Who could have imagined? Well, Cuomo didn't think.

00:51:46.920 And he doesn't think in general. But unfortunately, that doesn't stop him from talking.

00:51:52.160 And for that reason today, he is canceled. And we'll leave it there.

00:51:56.920 Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great day. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - May 19, 2021

Ep. 725 - Another Celebrity Comes Out As Two People

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