Ep. 737 - Groveling To The Mob Won’t Stop It From Consuming You
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Ellie Kemper, star of the Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, is, as it turns out, not a member of the KKK. And if she was, she would have known about it by the time she was 19 years old.
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Today on The Matt Wall Show, a Hollywood actress delivers a groveling apology to the mob,
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despite having done absolutely nothing wrong. That always goes well, doesn't it? Meanwhile,
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a prominent psychiatrist who publicly fantasized about murdering white people
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doubled down and refused to apologize. This happened on the same day. What can we learn
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from this interesting contrast? Also, five headlines, including an MSNBC analyst saying
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that she saw some American flags over the weekend and was disturbed by them. That's a direct quote.
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Also, the Biden administration officially adopts the birthing people label to describe women,
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and Trump says he's considering Ron DeSantis as a VP in 2024. I think that's a terrible idea,
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and I'll explain. Plus, in our daily cancellation, the actress Monique gets into some hot water for
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criticizing people for dressing like slobs in public. But she's right, of course. There is a
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slob epidemic in America, and we'll talk about that and much more today on The Matt Wall Show.
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Welcome again to the show. A quick note to begin. This show has grown quite a bit over the past year
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least you can do for me. You owe me. Now, on to the topic at hand, and it's a topic that begins,
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sadly, with another I told you so. Ellie Kemper is a popular Hollywood actress and star of the
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unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt and other things I haven't seen. You may recall last week when
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photos resurfaced, quote-unquote, i.e. were searched for and found and posted by someone with a vendetta
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of Kemper at the age of 19 in 1999, taking part in something called the Veiled Prophet Ball.
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She had the honor of being crowned the Queen of Love and Beauty, a title that many people in the
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audience often apply to me as it happens. 22 years later, it was decided by the Woke
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Mob that the event was actually racist and was, in fact, not only racist, but a literal KKK event.
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That was the claim. The Woke Mob last week began calling Kemper a KKK princess and slandering her
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as a member of the Klan. This was all completely made up. Ellie Kemper, star of the unbreakable
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Kimmy Schmidt, is, as it turns out, not a member of the Klan. Who would have thought? The event was
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not Klan-affiliated at all, even a little. It also wasn't racist. Apparently, the Veiled
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Prophet's Ball had been around since the 19th century, and it used to exclude black people
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and Jews. But it integrated in 1979. That's a year before Kemper was even born. And there's
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no reason that she would have known about that as a 19-year-old who just wanted to wear a fancy
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dress and go to a ball. And even if she did know about it, so what? Literally any institution
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that's been around for more than a century will have a history of unenlightened racial views.
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And that's not just the case in America, but everywhere. Okay, take any institution created
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in the 19th century or earlier, and you will find that the people who established it had views on race,
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and not just on race, but everything else, that we would find objectionable today.
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So, by the standard being applied to Kemper, anyone affiliated with any event or institution
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or organization or function that existed for more than a few decades should apologize. I mean,
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we could start with anyone who's ever attended a professional baseball game. Do you know,
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I'm sure you know about the history of professional baseball and race. You ever gone to one of those
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games, I'll need your apologies in writing. You're basically a member of the KKK.
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But I don't say any of this in order to defend Ellie Kemper. I say it only because it's true.
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I'm simply telling you the facts. As I said last week, I'm not interested in defending Ellie
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Kemper because she's been a vocal proponent of BLM. She has helped to feed the beast.
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She has bowed to the altar of the race hustlers. She has contributed to our current racial hysteria.
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And this is the consequence. And as if to prove my point even further,
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Kemper yesterday issued the expected apology. And it is as groveling and sycophantic and nauseating
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as you might anticipate. Kneeling before her slanderers and apologizing for having done
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absolutely nothing wrong, Kemper wrote in part, quote,
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The century-old organization that hosted the debutante ball had an unquestionably racist,
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sexist, and elitist past. I was not aware of the history at the time, but ignorance is not an excuse.
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I was old enough to have educated myself before getting involved. At the same time,
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I acknowledge that because of my race and my privilege, I am the beneficiary of a system that
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has dispensed unequal justice and unequal rewards. There's a very natural temptation when
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you become the subject of internet criticism to tell yourself that your detractors are getting
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it all wrong. But at some point last week, I realized that a lot of the focus, or a lot of
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the forces behind the criticism are forces that I've spent my life supporting and agreeing with.
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If my experience is an indication that organizations and institutions with past that fall short of
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these beliefs should be held to account, then I have to see this experience in a positive light.
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quote, well, yes, there it is. She stumbled on the truth, but drew the wrong conclusion from it.
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She says that the people attacking her are people she spent her life supporting and agreeing with.
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Exactly, Ellie. You supported them, and to thank you for your support, they tore you to shreds as sport.
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They tried to ruin your life and your career for nothing. Nobody was actually upset about Ellie
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Kemper. Nobody cared. Nobody cared. No one was offended by this ball that no one had even heard
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of before last week. None of them cared. It didn't mean anything to them. But they thought
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they'd ruin your life anyway, or tried to. Maybe that should tell you something, Ellie, about those
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people and their causes. She also says that ignorance is no excuse, which is a common refrain
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in these gutless, self-flagellating apologies. But in fact, just so you know, ignorance is a great
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excuse. It's actually one of the best excuses you can offer for something. In this case, there's
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nothing to be excused for because, again, she didn't do anything wrong by attending the ball.
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Yet, putting that aside, just as a general concept, if someone does something that's actually wrong,
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and they don't know that it's wrong, they're ignorant, and they didn't intend to do anything
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wrong, then their ignorance would, in fact, mitigate their moral culpability significantly.
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Depending on what the thing is, it may not get them off the hook entirely in terms of consequences,
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but it is an excuse and a pretty good one. I only make this point because the ignorance is no excuse
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thing. It goes hand in hand with the idea that intent doesn't matter. You know, if you say or do
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something and someone else feels offended by it, all that matters is how they feel. Your own personal
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intentions are irrelevant, and that's totally backwards. But this is all a mood point. Kemper
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apologized, and in apologizing, she admits guilt. She essentially confesses to a sin she didn't commit.
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Right. That's what happens when you apologize. It's like if you're brought in for murder,
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and you're, you know, in the interrogation room with the cops, and you didn't commit murder,
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but you start apologizing to them. Oh, dear God, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry. Well, that's going to be
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seen as an admission of guilt. So she assumed guilt that is not her own in order to appease the mob,
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a mob which cannot be appeased, and which will still happily rip her to pieces and throw her
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into the trash because she is nothing to them. So that happened. It could be educational, meanwhile,
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to compare this story to another one unfolding at the same time. We discussed yesterday the
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controversy surrounding Dr. Aruna Kilinani, a prominent psychiatrist who gave a lecture to the
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Yale School of Medicine, which was one long racist diatribe against white people. The most racist
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part of the racist rant, and it's actually kind of hard to pick the most racist part because the
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entire thing is racist, but the most racist part probably is when she confessed to having a strong
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urge to shoot white people in the head. And she says that she could do this, blow a white person's
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brains out just because they're white, and walk away whistling joyously with a pep in her step.
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In other words, she is a murderous, bloodthirsty, insane, anti-white bigot and is proud of it.
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The audio of this lecture was posted online. A deserved outrage ensued. None of that outrage
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coming from the left, of course. And yesterday, around the time that Ellie Kemper was apologizing
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for going to a dance in 1999, Dr. Aruna came out with her own statement, doubling down and refusing
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to apologize. She wrote, quote, too much of the discourse on race is a dry, bland regurgitation
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of new vocabulary words with no work in the unconscious. And if you want to hit the unconscious,
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you will have to feel real negative feelings. My speaking metaphorically about my own anger
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was a method for people to reflect on negative feelings, to normalize negative feelings, because
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if you don't, it will turn into a violent action. Something is emotionally dangerous about opening
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up a conversation about race. No one wants to look at their actions or face their own negative
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feelings about what they're doing. The best way to control the narrative is to focus on me and make
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me the problem, which is what I stated occurs in the dynamic of racism. My work is important and I
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stand by it. We need to heal in this country. She stands by it. She stands by her desire to shoot
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white people in the face. In fact, more than stands by it, she wants to normalize those feelings. She
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wants more people to talk about it. She wants them to be unashamed to talk about it publicly.
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Not only is she not sorry, she's proud. Her work with hating white people and wanting to kill white
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people is important, she says, and it will, it will heal the country. There you have it. The woman who did
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nothing wrong and was smeared as a racist apologized, the woman who actually is a racist and proudly so
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does not apologize. And the reason it works this way is that the real crime Ellie Kemper committed,
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what's the real crime? It's that she's white. Being white is the crime. That in the end is what she
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was apologizing for. It's what the mob wants all white people to apologize for and keep apologizing
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forever. And you can play that game if you want. You can live your life on your knees, begging
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constantly for forgiveness for sins you didn't commit. Or you can look the mob square in the face
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and say, go to hell. I apologize for nothing. Those are really your only two choices now.
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There is no in-between road available. And I know which one I choose. Now let's get to our five
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or call 800-951-7163. Okay. So we'll start here. Actually, I wanted to, I wanted to, to, uh, play this
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during the opening, but I didn't have time. Speaking of the racist, murderous psychiatrist,
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um, here is, I just want to show you, this is an example of the kind of stuff this wacko puts out
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there. Um, and it's, it's, it's, it's, this is why it's important. It's not just the kind of thing
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that this whack job puts out there into the world. It's what a lot of psychiatrists and, and quote,
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mental health professionals are saying and telling their patients. So let's just watch this.
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So part of the disconnect in white culture is that Americans think that they're at the top of
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the food chain and the most free. So white female therapists often need to think of themselves as
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very feminist. So they don't really actually have an idea that women from other countries are actually
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doing really well. They're incredibly educated. They held high status jobs and they coming here,
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they actually had to take, uh, a lower cut, an inferior job. I would point this racism out to
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your therapist. Um, people often think that coming to America is a step up and that is often how white
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America views it. Um, and for many immigrants, they actually had to step down, lose their titles,
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lose status, make enormous sacrifices that were incredibly harmful. Also white therapists don't often
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understand that immigrant parents tolerate the trauma of racism on a level that they never had
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before they left their home country. Hmm. Okay. First of all, put a damn battery in your smoke
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detector, lady. Um, do you not know how to change the batteries in your smoke detector? Some women
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don't. I've heard. Uh, second, more important, I guess a couple of questions arise here.
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And the first one is, uh, coming to America is a step down. We egotistical, arrogant white Americans,
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we assume that, uh, that coming to America is a step up for immigrants, you know, and how could we
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possibly arrive at that conclusion? What, where, where, where do we get off, uh, making that assumption?
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Well, I don't know. Maybe because they're coming here. Maybe because they chose to leave where they
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were living before and come here, you know? And so I would assume that for them, it's a step up.
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If it's not a step up, why are they here? Maybe that's the reason. So explain to me, doc,
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if it's a step down, then why the hell are they here?
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I will just say this to anyone. If you came to this country and you've discovered that it's a step
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down, you're, you're welcome to go back to wherever you came from. And that's, that's what I would do.
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If I left my home country and went somewhere else and I discovered that I had stepped down in the
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world, I would just go back. What are you doing here in that case?
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See, they want to have it both ways when it comes to immigration. They want to say, we, you know,
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we should throw open the, uh, the, the floodgates, throw open the doors, erase the borders, invite
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everybody in. And if we don't do that, it's like a human rights violation. We're, we're committing,
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you know, grievous sin against these immigrants who want to come here.
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So they want to say that on one hand, but on the other hand, they also want to say that it's a step
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down. There are countries better anyway. It's racist here. It's so much more racist and they're
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persecuted even more. No, you got to pick a lane. It's one or the other. Because if it's a step down
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and we're horrible to immigrants and there's so much racism and everything is bad and everything is
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terrible and all the minorities here are just exhausted all the time by the persecution and
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everything they saw, then that's all the more reason to close the borders and say, no, don't
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come here. It's bad here. Go back to where you came from. It's be a lot better for you. In fact,
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in that case, it's a, I think it's a, it's a, it would be an act of generosity and charity to close
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the borders down. So you really got to pick a lane, but they never do that. It's really on every
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issue. They want to have it both ways. It's, it's all the, and this is one of the advantages of being
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a relativist is that there is no objective truth. So the truth is whatever you need it to be in the
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moment. So depending on what the discussion is about, if the discussion is about the border,
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specifically in immigration, then yeah, this is a better life and let everybody come. If the
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discussion is about systemic racism, then America is a hell hole. You know, it just, it really depends.
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It's whatever they need it to be in the moment. It doesn't matter if their talking points line up
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with each other. And she says that, that, um, you know, there's more racism here than
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in the countries where these people are coming from. Really? Can you, can you tell me which,
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let's talk for a second about, you know, because I assume we're talking about non-white,
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predominantly non-white countries. I mean, if these are immigrants who are coming here and
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experience racism, then I assume we're not talking about immigrants from, you know, from,
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from a predominantly white country. Um, even though of course, immigrants from predominantly
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white countries in the, in the past have come here, for example, Irish immigrants, Italian have
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come here and experienced bigotry, but I assume that's not what she's talking about. So, um, I guess
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I would, I would like to know, give me an example of a predominantly non-white country somewhere else in
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the world that is more racially tolerant than the United States of America. That is more racially
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enlightened and tolerant than the United States of America. Can you give me an example? Because I
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don't think you can. I really don't. Give me an example of a non-white country that is more accepting
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of diversity, more progressive, more racially tolerant than the United States. I mean, where are
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these countries that you're referring to and where in fact you can be even more successful and you can
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climb the ladder even better and live the dream. And the problem is if you can name that country,
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then again, the question remains, why would anyone leave there to come here?
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All right, let's go to number two, Mara Gay, who, uh, we mentioned last week for some dumb
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thing she said, and I can't even remember what it was, but it doesn't matter. She was on MSNBC saying
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more dumb things. And, uh, this time she had some thoughts on the American flag. Now I, I saw this
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clip being posted on, on Twitter by conservatives and they were quoting her as saying that, that,
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she saw the American flag and it was disturbing her. And I actually, I don't know, I'm still
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optimistic and I try to see the best in people. You know that about me. So I actually, I, before I
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clicked on the clip, I thought, eh, you know, are they, did she really say that exactly? Or is she
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just sort of implying it? Did she actually come out and say that directly? Um, I even had a little
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bit of skepticism, but it turns out, no, that's exactly what she said. Let's listen.
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The reality is here that, uh, we have a large percentage of the American population.
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I don't know how big it is, but we have tens of millions of Trump voters who, uh, continue
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to believe that their rights as citizens are under threat by simple virtue of having to share
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the democracy with others. Um, I think, uh, as long as they see Americanness as the same
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as one with whiteness, this is going to continue. We have to figure out how to get every American
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a place at the table in this democracy, but how to separate Americanness, America from whiteness
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until we can confront that and talk about that. This is really going to continue. I was on Long
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Island this weekend, uh, visiting a really dear friend and I was really disturbed. I saw,
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you know, dozens and dozens of pickup trucks with, uh, you know, uh, explicatives against Joe Biden,
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uh, on the back of them, uh, Trump flags, and some cases, just dozens of American flags,
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which, you know, uh, is also just disturbing because essentially the message was clear. It was,
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this is my country. Okay. So she saw pickup trucks with, with, uh, all you have to do is laugh at
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the, it's all you can do is just laugh. She saw pickup trucks and she was disturbed and she saw
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American flags and she was disturbed. Just think about the bubble these people live in.
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They, they, they, they really do. You know, that's not just some populist cliche, but these are elitists
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who live in a bubble and they go outside of that bubble and they are horrified by normal things like
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pickup trucks. I'm just imagining Mara Gay, you know, walking down the street, seeing a pickup truck
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and crumpling down on the sidewalk in, in tears. Oh my God. What is that thing? What is that?
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Um, and she was disturbed by the American flag as well. She's very clear about that. You know,
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it's, it, we think back to Colin Kaepernick when he began his protest after he was benched and,
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you know, his NFL career was falling apart and that's when he discovered his, uh, his passion for
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social justice and activism, total coincidence, of course. But, and, uh, he started doing his whole
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thing and we were originally told that, that it was not a protest of the flag. It's not a protest of
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the anthem. It's all a protest of, uh, of police brutality. I mean, for years, that's what we were
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told. Meanwhile, many of us, mostly on the right, we, we, we, from the very beginning pegged this as,
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no, he's protesting the flag. That's what he's doing. Um, this is not about police brutality.
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And for years and years, the left told us that's, that's, uh, that's a libelous charge. It's not true.
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Well, now they're pretty open about it. They actually just hate the flag itself and they hate
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what it represents. They hate the fact that when someone's flying the flag, they're saying,
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this is my country. Well, yeah, Mara, that, that is what they're saying. And it is their country.
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Okay. If you're an American, it's your country. They're Americans. They're flying the American flag.
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Now let's go here. Number three, Trump was on Fox yesterday and he was asked about the possibility of,
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uh, of having Ron DeSantis as his vice presidential, as his running mate in 2024. And he said he was,
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he was open to the idea. First, let's listen to Trump, uh, talking about that.
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If you were to run for the presidency in 2024, would you consider Ron DeSantis,
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Sure I would, but you know, there are numerous people that are great. I would certainly consider
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Ron. I was, I was at the beginning of Ron. I was the first one to endorse him when he came out as a
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congressman that a lot of people didn't know. And my endorsement helped him tremendously. And I know
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him very well. He's a great guy. We have other great people. I mean, you look at some of the people
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that Republican people that have done a great job with States and you don't see that with the
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Democrats. I mean, they kept their States closed and locked down and the schools are closed. It's
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just absolutely outrageous how they get away with it. Uh, yeah, I, I just want to say now,
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I mean, there's no indication that, that Ron DeSantis is interested in this. And in fairness,
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he was, he was asked, would you consider him? And so he said, yeah. And, uh, what else is he going
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to say? He's not going to say, no, I wouldn't consider it. So can't blame him for giving that
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answer. Um, this, this is far from concern from confirming that it's an actual thing. That's
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that, that, that might happen. And I would assume that Ron DeSantis wouldn't be on board for that.
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I hope he wouldn't because this would be a terrible idea to have Ron DeSantis as Trump's
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running mate. Talk about a waste of talent. You're going to take the most effective, effective
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executive level politician, effective governor in a country. I mean, the most effective Republican
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politician at any level, I think, and make him a figurehead, make him a, a vice president
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who does nothing. Terrible idea. And the reason it's worth addressing is because I see this a lot
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online. There's, there's definitely a feeling out there among Trump supporters that they would
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love to see this happen. I see a lot of Trump DeSantis, 2024 things online, terrible, awful idea.
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If DeSantis is not running in 2024, if he's not interested in being president or running for
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president 2024, then he needs to stay governor of Florida where he's done such a phenomenal job.
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The last thing we need is for him to be vice president for Trump. And the other thing also
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to keep in mind is that Trump has an extensive history of hiring people to work for him. And
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then within a few years, he hates that person and they're at each other's throats and, and all of
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that. I mean, that's, that's the way it almost always goes with like every person Trump hires,
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who's not in his family. I know you might, you might be able to think of a few exceptions,
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but not many. And if that were to happen to DeSantis, it would just sort of sully his political
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brand. And, um, and that's the last thing we need. Now, what really needs to happen is Ron DeSantis.
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If he decides he wants to stay governor of Florida, that's fine. But if he's interested,
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then Ron DeSantis should run in 2024 and he should be the guy. And Donald Trump, if he cares about
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the cause, if he cares about the movement, he would get behind DeSantis, not as vice president,
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but he would endorse him and tell all of his supporters to go to Ron DeSantis. You know,
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DeSantis is, is the future of the Republican party. Donald Trump, who would be 78 in 2024 is not.
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Um, and putting everything else aside, I, I have been very clear and consistent that I do not
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think. And I said this with Biden and it wasn't just because it's Biden. And there are a lot of
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reasons to oppose Biden. And there were, um, during the campaign, but we could just start and end it
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with his age. 78 years old is way too old. And we're seeing this right now. 78 years old is way
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too old to run for president. It just is. You're going to, you're going to be turning 80 in the
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presidency. That is old for a Pope. Okay. That's even like Pope level old. And if it counts as old
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for a Pope, it's all, it's too old for a president. And I know the response is that, well, Trump is
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different and he's got a lot more energy and everything. Yeah, he does, but, uh, he is a
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mortal human being like the rest of us. And there are just physical realities. And one of them is that
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your mind and your body deteriorate as you get older. And when you get into your eighties or close
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to it, that process really kicks into high gear for everyone. You don't, there's no getting away
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from that or around it. So let's not do that, please. More political news. The Biden administration
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is now officially referring to women as birthing people. So here's Biden in, uh, their, their budget
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proposal. He says, uh, talking about his budget proposal, just reading the language, it says it
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reduces the maternal mortality rate and ends race-based disparities in maternal mortality.
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The United States has the highest maternal mortality rate among developed nations with an
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unacceptably high mortality rate for black American Indian, Alaskan native, and other women of color.
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To help end this high rate of maternal mortality and race-based disparities and outcomes among
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birthing people. And then it goes, it goes from there, uh, birthing people. Now, of course he still
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uses the word maternal and, you know, maternal, maternal means relating to a mother. That's what it means.
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So you can still say that, but you can't say mother anymore. We have to say birthing people.
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The Democrat party continuing to, um, erase women.
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I mean, in a, in a, in a, in a very literal sense or as literal as they possibly can.
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They are, they are trying to destroy and undermine the concept of womanhood.
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And for so long, we've, feminists have accused Republicans of doing that.
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And here's, here's what that, and for a long time, when, uh, when feminists in the left
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accused Republicans of doing that, of course it was totally nonsense.
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But I, along probably with you, I, I always thought, well, what do you mean erasing women?
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The American flag is not disturbing, but this is.
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Next we have, um, Greta Thunberg issued another proclamation condemning all of us for our selfishness.
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Primarily just because she talks about the thoughts and feelings of fish
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and how we have to respect their thoughts and feelings.
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Every year we kill more than 16 billion animals,
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But 70% of the animals we farm live inside factories.
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Those with the most power have the most responsibility.
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would I, if I were setting up my perfect world,
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you know, you people have taken this on as your cause.