The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 751 - The Truth About Caitlyn Jenner

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Caitlyn Jenner attended CPAC over the weekend,

00:00:03.700 reigniting the debate about whether this person in any sense represents conservatism.

00:00:08.060 I will give an emphatic no to that question. Also, our five headlines, including Cubans

00:00:12.680 waving American flags as they protest communism. Ben Carson upsets a lot of people with an entirely

00:00:17.640 correct, by the way, statement about the black family and the San Francisco gay men's chorus

00:00:22.060 after releasing that song, warning that they're coming for our children, have now decided that

00:00:26.560 they are the victims because of the backlash they received in response to it. And in our

00:00:31.020 daily cancellation, we'll discuss Kamala Harris's claim that rural Americans don't have access to 1.00

00:00:36.280 photocopiers. As a former rural American myself, I have some thoughts about that and much more today

00:00:42.240 on the Matt Wall Show. The great conservative hope Caitlyn Jenner was attending CPAC and

00:00:56.540 Dallas over the weekend. Now, in fairness to CPAC, as far as I know, he was not there to give a

00:01:01.520 speech, nor was he involved in any other official sort of capacity, as far as I know. But he did

00:01:05.720 hit the interview circuit where he rattled off a series of Republican cliches. This sort of thing

00:01:11.240 apparently still impresses some of the more mentally deficient members of the right wing. Here's Jenner, 0.93

00:01:16.280 for example, talking to, this is Right Side Broadcasting Network at CPAC and explaining,

00:01:23.680 generally speaking, his kind of approach and his stance as a conservative. Let's listen.

00:01:29.860 Yes, there are so many career politicians out there. It is, is it going to be an easy job? No,

00:01:35.580 no. But as an outsider, I am not the one who gave us the highest tax rates in the nation,

00:01:40.580 one of the highest tax rates in the nation. Regulations on top of regulations.

00:01:44.440 The list goes on and on and on of what you say the career politicians have done to the state of

00:01:51.960 California. I don't owe one special interest any favor whatsoever. I don't owe one union.

00:02:00.400 What I want to do is come in and represent the people. Right now, the people in California are

00:02:05.800 not represented. I'm an outsider. Taxes are bad. Regulations, career politicians, special interests,

00:02:12.480 the people, rah, rah, rah. So tired of hearing this. You might as well put a bunch of conservative

00:02:17.520 buzzwords into a magic eight ball and shake it up and see what it says. You might as well interview

00:02:22.240 a magic eight ball stuffed with conservative talking points. If you can still be swept off your feet by

00:02:28.500 this kind of thing from a Republican politician or want to be a Republican politician, then I don't know

00:02:33.680 what to tell you. I could teach a literal parrot, like an actual parrot, a bird, to say everything

00:02:39.660 that Jenner just said there. And that's all he has, by the way. That's his whole pitch. Standard

00:02:44.220 issue, Republican claptrap. Doesn't get much deeper than that. Proving the point here, Jenner did have 1.00

00:02:48.940 an opportunity at CPAC to talk about his vision for the America First movement and what America First

00:02:55.220 means to him personally. And here's what he said. Here with Caitlyn Jenner.

00:03:00.120 Hello. Tell me, what does America First mean to you? It means exactly what it says. We need to

00:03:06.380 put America first. I have been around this country for a long time. You know, I've lived out in

00:03:12.140 California for 48 years. I've seen what is happening out there. We're losing the state. 18,000 companies

00:03:19.860 have left high taxes, this and that. We got to put America first. We got to put the people of California

00:03:25.660 first. And that's what I'm fighting for. America first means, you know, America first. That's the

00:03:34.840 thing about being America first. I just, I really believe in America being first. It's just such,

00:03:39.980 you know, America, it's an America firsty type of thing. This and that. Vote for me.

00:03:48.160 That was my favorite part of the answer was this and that. You know, as high taxes and businesses and

00:03:53.520 this and that. No, you don't get to this and that because I know about the taxes. But what else?

00:03:58.840 Give me a little bit more than that. You can't this and that your way out of this.

00:04:04.740 Somehow I am not persuaded. And yet I'm constantly reminded by conservatives that this is different.

00:04:09.260 Sure, Jenner is at best a typical establishment Republican type at best serving up a bunch of

00:04:15.800 reheated microwaved GOP talking points from 2003. But he's doing it while wearing a dress. And that

00:04:23.060 changes everything. Yes, what makes Jenner especially appealing, what makes him a more

00:04:28.100 compelling candidate than your typical pre-programmed republibot is that he also offers us the

00:04:34.500 opportunity to completely abandon our defense of biological reality by embracing the trans agenda 0.95

00:04:39.220 and left-wing gender theory all in one fell swoop. This is supposed to be a selling point somehow. 0.85

00:04:45.140 Now, for the mass of deluded saps who do consider it a selling point, I thought this would be a good 1.00

00:04:53.120 opportunity to review a few things about Jenner. In fact, we could do this in chronological order.

00:05:01.560 Some things that maybe have been forgotten. Starting shortly after Jenner's stunning announcement

00:05:06.960 that he is becoming a woman and going up until now, let's review the positions that he's taken

00:05:12.240 and the sorts of things he's been saying and advocating. We can begin in 2015. Here's a clip

00:05:18.560 that has kind of flown under the radar for the last six years. Now that Jenner is being embraced

00:05:23.480 as a representative of the conservative movement, I think it warrants a second look. This is Jenner

00:05:27.560 at an LGBT fundraiser. This was about six years ago. Recounting a hilarious and heartwarming

00:05:33.660 incident that occurred in his home when his children were much younger. Listen.

00:05:37.840 One daughter was stealing the other daughter's clothes. Okay. So she set her computer up in

00:05:44.040 the room and she put on that like security device that if anybody walked in, it would videotape

00:05:48.880 them. Okay. I didn't know that. Okay. So everybody's gone. I got like three or four hours. Let's try

00:05:59.800 on a few things here. And, and I come and all of a sudden the kids come home and I hear this big

00:06:07.700 commotion going on in the other room. And Chris goes, uh, uh, uh, here. Uh, yeah, sometimes I was

00:06:14.980 very stealthy. I, I, honestly, I went all these years. I mean, I, I would go to hotels, prostitutes

00:06:19.780 this and that, and never get caught. I have to, I'm proud of that. Okay. Proud of that. Not to be 0.55

00:06:28.360 clear, just so we're all on the same page here, I think it was pretty, pretty clear cut, but he went

00:06:34.260 into his daughter's room and tried on her clothes. Um, now imagine how traumatizing it would be for a

00:06:41.740 young girl to, uh, find out it. Maybe if you're, if you're a woman watching this and you think back

00:06:47.040 to when you were younger, just imagine finding out that your dad is invading your privacy,

00:06:54.600 rifling through your closets and drawers and wearing your clothing. When you leave the home,

00:06:59.980 if a girl confided in you that like today, if a young girl came up and confided in you,

00:07:05.420 that her dad had done this, you'd probably call the police. I mean, you would assume rightly that

00:07:10.160 the child is not safe in that home. You wouldn't tell her to laugh it off. Oh, there's old dad up to

00:07:15.980 his crazy hijinks again. You know, dad's wearing their daughter's clothing. Happens all the time.

00:07:22.420 In fact, even if this was, um, you know, even this, even this was a mom acting like this,

00:07:28.240 let's pretend this is a woman doing this, sneaking into her daughter's room to try on her clothes. 1.00

00:07:33.340 It would be extremely weird and creepy and a sign that something is not right in that home. But this

00:07:38.320 is not the mom, despite what we may be told now. This is the dad cross-dressing in his daughter's 0.82

00:07:44.020 clothing. And he does, he does refer to it that way, by the way, as cross-dressing.

00:07:51.480 We can all agree that, that this is disturbing and inappropriate at an absolute minimum.

00:07:56.120 We can all agree with that until the father comes out as quote trans, at which point it magically 0.99

00:08:01.720 becomes laudable. I mean, the audience is literally applauding it, clapping.

00:08:07.700 And then Jenner is embraced as a champion of conservative values.

00:08:13.880 Continue on our tour here, uh, our tour. Here is Jenner sometime in 2016 on Tucker Carlson

00:08:19.120 in a clip that was reposted to Twitter by a guy named, uh, Bryson Gray. And, uh, which is good

00:08:24.060 to be reposted so we can all remember this. Um, but here's Jenner confessing where his real

00:08:30.700 loyalties lie. And you can listen here. Is it America? Is it his States? Uh, not really. Listen,

00:08:36.180 my loyalty to not lie with the Republican party, my loyalties. And what I'm fighting for is my

00:08:41.780 community, the LGBT community, and particularly the trans issues that are out there because there

00:08:46.980 are many of them. Um, and so that's where my fight is. Okay. His loyalties lie primarily not with his

00:08:54.180 country, not with his state, but with the LGBT community. This is, this is not America first, 1.00

00:08:58.040 rather it is quite expressly LGBT first, America first and LGBT first are not the same thing

00:09:04.120 and will never be the same thing. Finally, in a clip that we, we have played on the show before

00:09:09.080 here is Jenner only a few months ago, um, explaining that he does support males in women's sports,

00:09:15.640 but with one qualifier. And it's a qualifier that only makes his position more demented and extreme.

00:09:21.000 Listen, and you notice, I did not say in that statement, trans women, I said, biological boys.

00:09:28.480 What I would do as, as governor, I would put together a commission. Trans women can compete 1.00

00:09:34.240 in the Olympics. They compete in the NCAA, but when it gets down to the high school level,

00:09:38.400 there's no guide rules. There's no rules and regulations how they can. And trans women who 1.00

00:09:43.440 are truly trans, who at a very young age, you know, started proper medical treatment. They've

00:09:49.360 grown up as girls. Of course they should be able to compete in girls sports. But yeah, 0.93

00:09:54.880 as some guy who hasn't done any therapy, hasn't done anything, there has to be a review board.

00:10:01.200 I would be the first governor to put together a review board to review each case, such a small

00:10:05.600 issue. It's like a non issue that's out there. And I would be surprised if there's 30 trans athletes

00:10:12.240 in the entire state. He's not running as a trans activist. He says, even though he's previously

00:10:18.480 said that his loyalties are with the LGBT community and trans issues primarily. More to the point,

00:10:24.160 all at once, we see that Jenner not only supports putting males in girls sports,

00:10:28.240 but he also supports medical treatment, quote unquote, for boys at, quote, a very young age

00:10:33.760 to transition them into girls. He doesn't specify what he means by very young age, but

00:10:41.200 we all know what that means. And he wants some sort of state commission put in place to examine

00:10:47.200 these boys and determine if they have received enough medical treatment, quote unquote, to now

00:10:51.360 officially qualify his girls. How's that going to work? We're gonna have some commission of weirdos 1.00

00:10:59.200 who bring these boys in and take a look and say, yeah, he's a girl. He'll pass. Throw him in the 0.98

00:11:06.800 girls track team. This one, no, he's got, you got to do two more years of hormones on this one. 1.00

00:11:12.560 That position is actually worse than the typical left wing stance on this issue. And frankly,

00:11:18.880 before Jenner came along with this idea, I didn't know it could get worse.

00:11:24.160 So what are we left with? A man who confessed to cross-dressing in his young daughter's clothing

00:11:29.920 now identifies as a woman and says that his loyalties are with the LGBT community and who

00:11:33.600 supports medicating young boys to turn them into girls and who holds no authentic conservative views

00:11:39.600 that he can explain or defend with any coherency or depth. That's it. But then again, he has an

00:11:46.240 R next to his name and he uses words like tax cuts and regulations. And that's enough apparently for him

00:11:52.000 to be accepted as a conservative, which is to say that the word conservative, much like the word woman,

00:11:58.320 no longer means anything at all. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:13:18.320 So this is exciting starting off here. Uh, number one with a report from the daily wire,

00:13:24.240 Sir Richard Branson on Sunday won the space race among his fellow billionaires. We've got this,

00:13:28.720 the billionaire space race has been happening and Richard Branson won it rocketing to an altitude

00:13:34.160 of more than 53 miles above the earth considered space by us agencies. And doing so he became the

00:13:39.120 first earthling to soar into space in his own vehicle. Um, so this was the first private

00:13:45.120 first guy to take his own spaceship into space, uh, in a, now, uh, we should also stipulate,

00:13:53.600 uh, he, he, he was only up there. I think it was this, okay. 14 minute flight Branson at the age of 70,

00:14:00.560 uh, the founder of Virgin airlines and now Virgin Galactic beat out rival Jeff Bezos, founder of

00:14:05.920 Amazon, who's planning to fly to space in a rocket just nine days from now. Uh, you gotta, 1.00

00:14:11.680 you gotta feel bad for Jeff Bezos on that one. Maybe not about 500 people, including Branson's

00:14:17.040 wife, children, and grandchildren who had gathered at the runway in truth or consequences. Um,

00:14:22.160 New Mexico cheered when the space plane landed. So he was up there for, uh, it was, uh, 14 minutes

00:14:29.920 and there was like three minutes of flightlessness. So it's, it's, it's about as, as low as you could go

00:14:38.080 while still being considered space. And that's where he went. Now, you know, I see online, there

00:14:44.400 are people saying that, oh, okay, well this is, this is what space flight is going to be now. It's

00:14:49.360 just something for rich people to do. And that's all this is. And what's the big deal. It's never

00:14:54.240 going to be accessible to normal people. Uh, there's never going to be a time when like people like me

00:14:59.200 and you or can go up into space. And that may be true, but you also have to keep in mind that

00:15:06.720 this is always the precursor to something being available to the masses. I mean, anytime there's

00:15:13.840 some extraordinary new technology, it all, maybe not always, but oftentimes it begins with rich people

00:15:20.720 before it gets to everybody else, uh, cell phones, cars, microwaves, TVs. I mean, I can still remember

00:15:30.640 a time when having a big screen TV was a, was a big deal and was like a sign of wealth and privilege

00:15:36.240 in the nineties. And I'd go to my, you know, I go to my, my, I had a friend and his dad was like a

00:15:41.200 lawyer or something and they had a big screen TV and the thing was like 900 tons. The picture

00:15:47.040 quality was terrible. And it probably costs like 10 grand. Now anyone can buy one for 300 bucks at

00:15:53.360 Walmart and they hang on your wall. So that's generally the way things go. Um, and right now

00:16:01.100 space is this activity for rich people, but won't necessarily always be that way. Um, that's my

00:16:08.600 positive spin on it. And you don't often get positive spins from me, but there it is. Another

00:16:13.680 positive element for this from the daily wire as well says massive protests erupt on

00:16:16.900 Sunday in Cuba as, uh, citizens of the island nation demanded an end to the communist dictatorship

00:16:21.960 as they suffer in poverty while having limited freedom. The New York times reported quote in a

00:16:26.300 country known for repressive crackdowns on dissent, the rallies were widely reviewed as astonishing

00:16:30.520 quote activists and analysts called it the first time that so many people had openly protested against

00:16:35.860 the communist government since the so-called, um, since, uh, the uprising in 1994 in a huge way of

00:16:42.900 Cuba, Cubans leaving the country by sea. There were also people, a lot of images of,

00:16:46.740 of this online, you probably saw many of them, uh, some of the protesters waving American flags.

00:16:52.500 And there's the kind of sad irony that's been observed. Um, where you've got some Cubans who have a 0.99

00:17:01.880 more, uh, a more patriotic attachment to the United States of America than many Americans do.

00:17:08.320 Um, you know, when you see this and you see people in Cuba under a communist regime

00:17:16.060 rebelling against that regime and rightfully so, there's always this question that comes up

00:17:22.920 and it's really, it's, we, we get away from the economic, from the specifically economic

00:17:29.080 questions and just broaden it and talk about human flourishing, human wellbeing,

00:17:34.260 because that's what we should be concerned about. Um, and at the end of the day, the best system

00:17:44.000 is going to be a system that, that helps the most people flourish as human beings. So has there ever

00:17:50.200 been a time when we look back in history, we know the people in Cuba are not flourishing and they 1.00

00:17:56.400 certainly don't feel like they're flourishing, which is why what's, this is happening now.

00:17:59.840 Has there ever been a time when communism increased human flourishing?

00:18:10.080 When, when a communist system was not in place and then it was put in place and suddenly now there

00:18:15.480 is more human flourishing and we see an increase in human wellbeing. Has that ever happened in history?

00:18:24.660 Is there one example of that happening? The answer of course is no. Now the, the advocates

00:18:32.500 for communism in America today, and unfortunately there are many of them,

00:18:36.900 if they had an example, they would just provide it because I'm not the first person to think of

00:18:44.640 this argument. This, this is the, really the argument against communism, um, is that we don't

00:18:51.940 have to talk in theory about it. It's not a theory. It's an actual system. We've seen how it works

00:18:56.900 and we've seen every single time misery, despair, and death.

00:19:04.940 So at a certain point, you, maybe you learn a lesson from that.

00:19:09.840 Now, if the advocates had even one example, they would point to it, but they never do.

00:19:14.960 Instead, what do we always get? We always get the tried and true rejoinder that, well, that's not

00:19:19.760 real communism. Real communism has never been tried. All of these are fake. They thought it

00:19:26.820 was going to be real communism and then it turned out it was fake communism. So we got to keep on

00:19:30.020 trying until we get the real thing. Um, next year, Ben Carson was at, was also at CPAC and he was,

00:19:40.380 uh, interviewed on stage, talked about many subjects, but at a certain point he starts talking about the,

00:19:46.840 the state of the black family here in the United States. What he said here has caused lots of

00:19:52.360 controversy and outrage from the left and the right. People are, are, are very upset at, uh,

00:19:59.300 Ben Carson for saying this, but let's both listen to it. And then, I don't know, we'll, we'll decide if

00:20:03.180 there's anything wrong with what he said. Let's listen.

00:20:05.180 When you look at what the black community has been through, uh, go all the way back to slavery.

00:20:11.260 It was the family, the strong family units and the faith in God that got people through that.

00:20:19.940 They got people through Jim Crow, through severe segregation, uh, through all the difficulties.

00:20:29.340 But what really had a negative impact was when the government came along and said,

00:20:36.300 dear, dear, you poor little thing, I'm going to take care of all your needs and started implementing 1.00

00:20:42.140 policies that were destructive to family formation. Those are the things that have hurt the black 0.60

00:20:48.540 community the most. Um, okay. That's what he said. I, I, of course, when I hear someone say something

00:20:59.340 like that, I know that it's going to be quote unquote controversial, but as far as the substance of

00:21:03.900 what he's saying, there's nothing controversial about that. Um, what we know, this is a, just a fact

00:21:10.500 that the black community in modern America is in dire straits. And that's an understatement. 0.51

00:21:18.420 There's never been anything like what we're witnessing right now in terms of the state of the black

00:21:23.680 community. There's, there's never been a community, um, that has so thoroughly abandoned the nuclear family 0.96

00:21:33.640 70% fatherless rate. We all know the statistics and that itself is also kind of an understatement

00:21:39.440 because I think if you go into the, if you were to specify, um, in the cities and the inner cities

00:21:44.920 where the crime problem is the worst fatherless rate is higher than 70%. We've never seen anything like

00:21:52.500 that. Um, and it's, it's, it's an increasing problem across the country, not just in the black community

00:22:02.040 also, we should know, but it is especially a problem there. It's a catastrophic situation.

00:22:08.760 Um, we've never seen anything like this in the history of the world. Um, we've never seen so many

00:22:18.200 kids growing up without dads. This is another thing. Uh, this is a, something that's proposed by

00:22:27.780 the left that we abandoned the nuclear family. Black lives matter for a long time, had that on their 1.00

00:22:32.700 website, whatever their phrasing was. I don't, I don't remember exactly the phrase because they,

00:22:36.780 because they scrubbed it from their website after they got a lot of criticism, which isn't to say

00:22:41.320 that it's not part of their agenda anymore, but they, it's, it's not part of their, uh, public

00:22:45.320 agenda. They're not going to put it out there for you to read, but it was something like undermine

00:22:49.260 the, the nuclear family or something along those lines. We have to free ourselves of the nuclear 1.00

00:22:54.380 family. Well, now we're getting a look at what that, what actually happens. What, what does that

00:22:59.220 look like in practice when we free ourselves from the patriarchal bonds of the, of the nuclear family?

00:23:06.080 What we see is just, just like we see with communism, despair, death, utter unimaginable

00:23:12.220 horror, which is what we're witnessing in the cities. And that's his point that, uh, we could talk

00:23:22.240 about what are the causes of the collapse of the nuclear family in the black community, but we,

00:23:27.420 we need to start with acknowledging that it is, it's a real thing. It is happening.

00:23:32.140 There's not one simple cause that we can point to,

00:23:35.200 but it's pretty clear that the government programs that have been put in place over the last

00:23:44.020 several decades meant to help the black family have not helped.

00:23:49.680 The black family is in a worse state today than it was before these policies were put in place.

00:23:54.860 That's the observation that he's making. Pretty obvious, pretty straightforward. 0.66

00:24:02.860 Um, and someone who is more than qualified to make that observation, by the way.

00:24:08.340 All right, next here, this is from, uh, SanFranciscoGate.com. The, you remember the San

00:24:14.560 Francisco Gay Men's Chorus. Uh, they put out this song. I, we have to play the song again for you,

00:24:19.200 just to, just to remind you what we're talking about. Um, but the San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus,

00:24:23.140 they put out a song last week where they're saying that they're coming for our children.

00:24:28.420 They want to convert our children. Let's play the song again. And we can all remember 0.96

00:24:31.300 this, uh, musical masterpiece.

00:24:33.260 You think we're sinful. You fight against our rights. You say we all lead lives. You can't respect.

00:24:44.960 But you're just frightened. You think that we'll corrupt your kids. If our agenda goes unchecked.

00:24:53.020 We'll convert your children. Happens bit by bit, quietly and subtly, and you will barely notice it.

00:25:10.780 You can keep them from disco. Worn about San Francisco. Make them wear pleated pants. We don't care.

00:25:21.280 We'll convert your children. We'll make them tolerant and fair.

00:25:26.960 Okay. And then it gets, and then we get the, the entire chorus saying, we're coming for your children.

00:25:32.640 They repeat that over and over again. Um, and they know, as far as I know, there was no gun to their

00:25:39.460 head, forcing them to do this. They made a decision. I mean, they put, that's just a decision.

00:25:45.200 They put a lot of time and effort into writing this song, producing it, singing it, performing it,

00:25:51.440 putting it out there for the world. And, uh, the response was very negative from a lot of people

00:25:58.700 and thank God it was negative. But now the San Francisco gay men's chorus, uh, they're saying

00:26:05.240 they're the victims, just so you know, the fact that, um, this repulsive piece of propaganda

00:26:12.840 they put out there received a negative reaction that makes them the victims feel sorry for them.

00:26:18.140 Not our children who they say they are quote coming for, but they're the victim. So from sfgate.com

00:26:26.120 says the San Francisco gay men's chorus says its members are being harassed online and receiving

00:26:31.080 death threats after a satirical video, satirical video that prominently features the phrase will 0.78

00:26:37.380 convert your children when viral among conservatives, those dastardly conservative conservatives pounce

00:26:44.740 the video, which is no longer public on the group's official accounts, but can be found

00:26:49.400 elsewhere online was first posted Thursday last week. The chorus says it did not start

00:26:53.340 picking up steam in right-wing spaces until the middle of this week. Uh, and then they put

00:26:58.240 out a statement. In fact, I have a statement here. It says, this is the statement from the gay 1.00

00:27:04.380 men's chorus says the San Francisco gay men's chorus was founded in part to fight discrimination

00:27:07.960 and bigotry against all peoples. Today, our chorus members are facing death threats,

00:27:12.560 vile attacks, false accusations, doxing, and other forms of harassment because of our satirical

00:27:17.600 video performance message from the gay community. We let's just stop there. What is it satirizing? 0.98

00:27:24.180 Exactly. You're satirizing yourself. Are you satirizing your own agenda? What is the satire?

00:27:31.520 We placed the video in private mode to quell the intolerance and hateful responses from mostly

00:27:38.340 anonymous people. Upon reflection, we've made it live again for all to see, uh, the obviously

00:27:43.860 satirical tongue-in-cheek humor. We want everyone to judge for themselves. We will not allow ourselves,

00:27:49.340 even in the face of death threats, to retreat or bow to attempts to twist our words, meaning

00:27:54.160 self-deprecation and humor. Oh, it's self-deprecation now. They're making fun of themselves.

00:28:01.520 Did that, did that come through at all in what you just listened to there or you watched the

00:28:06.360 entire video? Self-deprecation. Um, we are thankful for the efforts of the San Francisco

00:28:14.300 Police Department and law enforcement for their quick response and assistance in handling these

00:28:17.440 threats. The San Francisco Gay Men's Chorus is dedicated to being role models, teaching,

00:28:22.240 and spreading the message of love, inclusion, humor, and celebration through our music. Oh, love and

00:28:27.820 inclusion. Is, uh, that's, that's, it's all about love and inclusion. When you tell parents

00:28:36.040 we're coming for your children. You know, we, we need to, to teach your kids like the, the

00:28:44.280 best possible interpretation, the most generous interpretation for the San Francisco Gay Men's

00:28:51.640 Chorus is that this was a song meant to mock conservative parents and to send the message

00:28:58.140 to us that we're not capable of raising kind, uh, good people. And that's why we need the San

00:29:06.220 Francisco Gay Men's Chorus to step in and, uh, and the LGBT community, generally speaking,

00:29:10.220 to teach our kids how to be kind and generous and tolerant and loving and accepting. That again is

00:29:17.440 the best possible interpretation. And even on the best possible interpretation, uh, people reacted

00:29:25.580 as exactly as anyone should expect them to react. What do you think people are going to do? Of course

00:29:32.360 they're going to be angry. I don't condone death threats, but like I always say with this, anytime

00:29:39.340 someone gets backlash online for doing or saying something that's truly objectionable, they always

00:29:44.680 claim, Oh, I got this. I got hundreds and hundreds of death threats. Maybe you did. I don't actually

00:29:50.060 believe it until you produce the receipts and you show us, um, this idea that there's this deluge of,

00:29:57.460 of, of death threats, maybe, but I don't believe anyone who claims that until you, until you prove it.

00:30:03.360 And even then that does nothing to get you off the hook. Yeah. You shouldn't be getting death

00:30:11.860 threats, but you also shouldn't have put out the content that you put out.

00:30:15.060 And as far as people reacting in general, just hatefully, yeah, that's fully justified.

00:30:26.620 It's a hateful message you put out there

00:30:28.600 and it gets a hateful. I hate the message,

00:30:33.220 the message that you want to convert my children. You're coming for my children. Um, I'm not capable

00:30:40.560 of raising them to be loving and all of these things. And I need your assistance. I hate that

00:30:46.120 message. And so my response is going to be hateful towards the message that you decided to put out

00:30:51.780 there. You're not the victim at all. Now on a similar theme here, um, this is from RT.com.

00:31:04.060 Um, it says officials in London's Redbridge borough were left red faced after a library event

00:31:10.720 designed to promote reading. Supposedly we'll put the pictures up here. Okay. There's the picture.

00:31:18.340 Um, and if you're, if you're listening on, uh, you know, Apple podcasts or the digital podcast,

00:31:22.520 you got to go over to YouTube or daily wire, just so you can see, just so you could see this,

00:31:25.640 the picture here to fully appreciate what we're dealing with. So this is the, um, this was an event

00:31:30.320 designed to promote reading among kids. And it featured a monkey character in a costume that

00:31:35.420 included a dangling fake genitalia and exposed buttocks. So this is some guy in a rainbow. 0.98

00:31:41.860 They're calling that a monkey costume. I don't know what that is. Some kind of furry,

00:31:46.740 hairy freak in a rainbow costume with a, with a, a large fake penis hanging from his costume and exposed 1.00

00:31:54.740 buttocks. He went to the library, um, to promote reading among kids. Why do you need that? 1.00

00:32:07.220 It's a good message. Telling kids that they should read fully, fully support that message.

00:32:12.860 Why do you need him? Why, why is that the vehicle for that message?

00:32:17.520 Well, for the same reason that drag queens are the vehicle, because it's not really about reading at

00:32:21.880 all. It's about desensitizing and, uh, and, and normalizing this behavior to kids.

00:32:28.420 So this library decided to go this direction. Um, and there were a lot of complaints. Shockingly,

00:32:36.040 people were offended by that. I mean, it is a costume designed, every aspect of the costume

00:32:42.120 is designed to offend people.

00:32:43.920 But now the library and the, the, the, uh, Mandinga arts troupe that put all this together,

00:32:52.000 they've, uh, apologized and said, well, we're not going to do that again. And they're acting

00:32:57.820 surprised, much like what the San Francisco gay men scores. They're acting surprised. Like I had no 0.98

00:33:02.060 idea people would be upset by this. All we did was send a guy in a hairy rainbow monkey suit 1.00

00:33:08.060 with, uh, with a dildo and exposed buttocks. All we did was send them in a light to a library to 1.00

00:33:14.000 talk to kids. What? You have a problem with that? Well, I had no idea.

00:33:20.720 No, this was, uh, they knew what they were doing.

00:33:25.880 And this is all part of the desensitization process, but they went a little too far too fast.

00:33:32.080 Same with the song from the gay men's chorus. They knew exactly what they were doing. 1.00

00:33:38.060 They're not at all surprised. People are upset.

00:33:41.660 They just didn't think this many people would be upset and that the reaction would be

00:33:45.160 as, uh, as strident as it is. This is all about desensitizing and normalizing.

00:33:53.320 And sometimes the people who are, who have put themselves in charge of that,

00:33:58.440 of that agenda, they go a little too far too fast and they have to back up and say, Oh, okay. Okay.

00:34:03.900 Nevermind. Maybe we'll try this again in five years. Maybe we'll send the guy in the monkey suit

00:34:10.440 back into the library five years from now. Maybe people will be ready for it then.

00:34:14.780 And you know something? They probably will be. Sad to say. All right. Next, uh, finally here,

00:34:20.500 a, uh, I want to show you this video ride at a carnival because there's an important lesson here.

00:34:26.660 This is a lesson of safety. This is at the Cherry Festival in Traverse City, Michigan.

00:34:30.900 One of those rides, like every carnival ride, it just goes around and around in circles. That's

00:34:35.980 all the carnival rides do. And, um, let's play the video here so you can see presumably a lot of

00:34:40.960 kids up on that ride and the carnival ride almost falls over. But this is terrifying.

00:34:49.840 Carnival ride is about to, there are other angles on this that show, um, that I think show it a little

00:34:55.120 bit better, but this is the angle that I, that I had. Carnival ride is about to fall over while it's

00:34:59.760 spinning. And then a bunch of men run over to grab onto it and kind of counterweight.

00:35:07.840 And they, they, they, they probably saved some lives doing that. So credit to them for that.

00:35:14.860 And the carnival ride operator also, when I first saw this video, it looked like the carnival ride

00:35:19.220 and I was kind of, I showed this video to my wife and I was, I felt bad. I was slandering the

00:35:23.640 carnival ride operator because it looked to me like he ran away, but he didn't. It turns out he jumped

00:35:27.700 off. I guess he hit the kill, kill switch. And then he was the first one to hang onto the ride,

00:35:32.180 um, and try to recruit other people to come over and help. And yeah, like I said, he could have saved

00:35:37.240 lives, but the lesson here, aside from these men, uh, doing the right thing and, uh, and which is

00:35:45.680 great instead of standing around, there's someone standing around filming it, but instead of everyone

00:35:49.760 standing around filming, Oh, I wonder what's going to happen next. You actually have, it looks like 15 or

00:35:54.220 20 guys leap into action, which is, which is good. But the other lesson here is never go on a ride

00:36:02.780 that was just pulled off of a truck and reassembled in a parking lot. And three days from now, we'll be

00:36:10.480 broken down again and put into a truck and sent to another parking lot. So general, you go to an

00:36:17.700 amusement park. I mean, those are rides that are permanent. They're put in place. There are all kinds

00:36:22.440 of those things are checked all the time. And still we have accidents every once in a while,

00:36:26.060 very rarely, but accidents on carnival rides are much more common because these are, they're put

00:36:32.740 on a truck and they're brought to a parking lot and then they're assembled by who knows.

00:36:38.220 It's not like there's some real stringent policy in place for checking these things.

00:36:44.380 And, uh, it's just, it's not the safest idea to do that. Uh, and I, I know we all grew up with

00:36:51.620 carnival rides. Our parents grew up with it. This might be one of those things. I I'm all about

00:36:57.280 history and tradition, hanging onto the traditions of our childhood. Maybe the traveling carnival

00:37:03.800 thing is one thing we should leave in the past. Possibly. Let's move now to reading the YouTube

00:37:09.280 comments. This is from Lauren says, your fans are crying out for sweet baby gang merchandise. Don't

00:37:13.760 let this be a missed opportunity, Matt. Uh, I I'm trying not to, by the way, I tried to explain

00:37:18.800 people have been tweeting at my wife with the sweet baby gang, hashtag sweet baby gang. 1.00

00:37:23.940 And she, she was not aware. Um, my wife so far is not in the sweet baby gang. She didn't even know

00:37:28.780 that it existed. And so I was put in the position that we were eating dinner and she's like, so what

00:37:34.080 is a sweet baby gang? And I had to explain it to her. And as I'm explaining it, I just realized this

00:37:39.800 is the kind of thing you can't explain. And we should never explain. If anyone ever asks you,

00:37:46.080 what does it mean to be in the sweet baby gang? You just, it's like, it's like fight club. We don't

00:37:49.880 talk about it. Um, Angie says, never, ever play vax that thing up again. Well, don't tell me what

00:37:59.660 to do, Angie. Angie, you should know better than to tell me what to do. Play the song.

00:38:04.080 Okay. I think I made the point. I think I made the point that what do you think's going to happen?

00:38:33.100 Angie, you should know, but I have the maturity of a four-year-old. You tell me not to do it and

00:38:38.980 I'm going to do it. Um, Jesse says, I want sweet baby gang attire. Capitalize on this, Matthew.

00:38:46.640 Another comment, crying out for sweet baby gang shirt. I'm tearing up looking at it.

00:38:52.240 This is just, this is a quick sampling of comments. The people have spoken. They want

00:38:57.520 the sweet baby gang merchandise. Um, another comment says, I want a sweet baby gang shirt. However,

00:39:02.380 I feel it should be more vague so that everyone is always left scratching their heads about what it

00:39:07.020 means. But you're telling me, so you're saying the shirt as it's still, where is the shirt? Okay.

00:39:15.060 This shirt is not going to make people scratch their heads wondering you're telling me that.

00:39:19.840 So you want a shirt that this will not make people scratch their heads wondering what the hell that

00:39:24.160 means. That's what you're telling me. That's the greatest thing about this shirt is people will see

00:39:29.500 that and be totally confused and disturbed by it. Um, Maximilian says, Matt, you should, uh,

00:39:37.480 totally wear the sweet baby gang t-shirt as your new hideous Friday shirt. Hideous? Well,

00:39:43.900 you're banned from the show. So you're not going to see what shirt I wear on Friday because you're

00:39:46.640 not allowed to watch anymore. Uh, Alex says as someone with a master's degree in history,

00:39:50.780 I concur with Matt on the general worthlessness of these degrees.

00:39:54.180 I have heard this over and over again from people with master's degrees. So I don't know

00:39:59.600 what else you need to know. If you're, if you're thinking about spending the money on a master's

00:40:03.940 degree, um, just talk to people who've gotten them. Don't take it from me. I don't have, okay. I have

00:40:09.920 no college degree at all. What do I know about it? Fine. Talk to people who've gotten the master's

00:40:14.180 degree and ask them if they think it was a worthwhile investment. Pull like 10 random people

00:40:20.460 and see what responses you get. Um, Alex says, not only is Matt the type of guy to avoid the

00:40:28.160 elevator for avoid holding the elevator for a random stranger, but he would also be the guy

00:40:32.760 to push the closed door button in hopes that it closes the elevator door faster. Well, I always

00:40:37.540 push the closed door button every time. And certainly, yeah, it's, it's very convenient because

00:40:42.240 the closed door button's right next to the open door button or the hold door button. And so when

00:40:47.380 someone's running down the hallway, Oh, hold that, hold that. You can always, you're, you're

00:40:51.120 pressing the closed button while saying, Oh, I'm trying to, sorry, this dang thing isn't working.

00:40:56.580 And, uh, finally, Jose says, I'm throwing away a third of my life in a classroom, but at least

00:41:02.620 it's to become a doctor. Well, that's see, that's, you're throwing away a third of your life in a

00:41:08.860 classroom. If you're, if you just keep going back into the classroom, because you don't know what

00:41:13.680 else to do, which is what a lot of people do. They keep getting more and more degrees and finding

00:41:17.680 more and more reasons to go back to school because they have no real plan for afterwards.

00:41:24.160 Um, but with graduate school, just like with, with, uh, with undergrad, there is a place for it.

00:41:32.680 I've always said that. I think probably 90% of the people who go to any kind of school after high

00:41:39.240 school, it's a waste of time. They don't really need to do it, but that leaves 10% who really need

00:41:43.800 to go. And if you want to be a doctor, I fully support, I think it's a, I think it's a good idea

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00:44:03.120 get now to our daily cancellation. Today for our daily cancellation, I must once again cancel

00:44:09.800 Kamala Harris. Now at this point, the bar for Kamala cancellations is pretty high. If I canceled her 0.99

00:44:14.760 every time she said something embarrassing or stupid, we'd never be able to talk about anyone else during 1.00

00:44:18.820 this segment. So she has to really bring the good stuff in order to earn it. And she really did earn it 1.00

00:44:25.420 this time. Listen.

00:44:26.880 Is agreeing to voter ID one of those compromises that you'd support?

00:44:30.580 I don't think that we should underestimate what that could mean. Because in some people's mind, that

00:44:41.380 means, well, you're going to have to Xerox or photocopy your ID to send it in to prove you are

00:44:50.500 who you are. Well, there are a whole lot of people, especially people who live in rural communities

00:44:54.320 who don't, there's no kinkos, there's no office max near them. People have to understand that when 0.92

00:44:59.920 we're talking about voter ID laws, be clear about who you have in mind and what would be required of

00:45:06.760 them to prove who they are. Of course, people have to prove who they are, but not in a way that makes

00:45:13.860 it almost impossible for them to prove who they are. Almost impossible. So there she was on BET

00:45:21.020 giving her thoughts on voter ID. Credit where it's due. She is correct that for people in rural 0.99

00:45:26.640 communities, there's no kinkos nearby to photocopy an ID. That's because kinkos doesn't exist and has not

00:45:32.600 existed for like 15 years or something. Rural Americans are as near to kinkos as they are to, 1.00

00:45:38.000 I don't know, a heckinger's or an Ames department store. And because they don't exist. And come to

00:45:43.840 think of it, she's correct about the rest of what she said also. I just moved from a rural community

00:45:48.400 where I lived. And the only photocopier we had was an old Amish man named Gabriel who would produce a 0.99

00:45:53.540 sketch using coal and parchment paper in exchange for a bale of hay and three years of corn. But old Gabe

00:45:59.480 didn't work as fast as he did in his younger years. So it would take a good six months for you

00:46:03.360 to get the document sometimes. I didn't even know that these newfangled photocopiers existed until

00:46:08.940 I moved to the city. In fact, I walked into a Staples. I got here to Nashville and it's my first

00:46:13.800 time being around buildings and cars and everything. And I walked into a Staples and I saw people

00:46:21.200 reproducing images with these large noisy machines. And the first thing I thought was that it was some

00:46:26.400 kind of sorcery, especially because it stopped working the minute I dumped a gallon of holy

00:46:30.420 water on it. These dang city folk are in league with the devil, I tell you. Actually, I do unironically 0.53

00:46:37.940 believe that many people in the city are in league with the devil, but that has nothing to do with

00:46:41.400 their photocopier technology, which contrary to Kamala Harris's claim, we did have access to out in

00:46:46.660 the country. In fact, we had computers and phones, not to mention electricity and running water.

00:46:51.340 We even had them there, fancy things that kept our food all cold and icy-like. Refrigerator,

00:46:57.940 I think it was called. As a matter of fact, even though I was a simple country boy, I knew,

00:47:04.740 and this is what I did, because I was a little bit far away from the nearest place to photocopy.

00:47:10.420 And so I knew that I could make photocopies on my phone. Anyone can download an app for free that

00:47:17.240 will scan any physical document. There's a nice little tip for you if you didn't know that.

00:47:20.780 It's really convenient. I also knew that I could buy a copier and printer if I wanted to. I could

00:47:26.180 go on, what's the, the internets and go to Amazon. You could order one, they'll send it to your house.

00:47:32.440 Or if need be, I could get in my horse-drawn carriage and make the journey to FedEx or Staples

00:47:36.640 or the post office or any of a dozen other places that can handle the complicated task of

00:47:41.440 photocopying an ID. Whatever method of photocopy you prefer, the good thing is that wherever you live,

00:47:47.840 if you want to participate in a presidential election, you have four whole years to figure

00:47:53.640 it out. Is there anyone in America who can look back at the last four years of their lives and say

00:47:59.740 that during that entire time frame, they were simply unable to make it to a Staples?

00:48:06.060 Even Gabriel, the Amish guy could get it done in four years. Even if the nearest Staples was 400 miles 1.00

00:48:11.980 away and I was living out in the wilderness and I had to walk the whole distance and yet somehow I

00:48:17.520 had an ID in the first place, I could still do it in four years with time left over, time to spare.

00:48:24.280 There is quite literally no conceivable reason why any single human being in the modern United States

00:48:30.400 should be prevented from voting by voter ID laws. And that's probably why people like Kamala Harris 1.00

00:48:36.620 never provided any actual examples of any specific real life people who wanted to vote

00:48:43.680 and yet were unable to vote because during the course of the preceding four years, they were unable

00:48:49.880 to get an ID and or make a photocopy of one. I contend that such a person does not exist.

00:48:57.660 And note that if such a person did exist, it still would not prove that voter ID laws are bad or

00:49:02.740 unreasonable or cumbersome. That the law is cumbersome to a small minority of extremely

00:49:07.360 incompetent people is not an argument against the law itself. But the anti-voter ID position is so

00:49:12.940 absurd, so lacking in any factual basis whatsoever, that I doubt that any small minority exists.

00:49:20.280 They exist only in the imaginations of infantilizing politicians like Kamala Harris who think that

00:49:25.640 rural Americans exist in some kind of 18th century time warp. Or at least they pretend to think that. 0.98

00:49:33.520 As fun as it is to mock this sort of thing, we can't make the mistake of believing that Kamala Harris

00:49:40.220 actually believes it. If she did, then she would be stupid and sheltered and ignorant in the extreme, 1.00

00:49:46.000 but still basically well-meaning. She's not well-meaning. She knows, they all know, that any adult human in 1.00

00:49:54.340 the country can easily qualify to vote even under the most stringent voter ID laws currently being

00:50:00.620 enacted or proposed. All these laws will do is confirm that the people voting are who they say

00:50:06.540 they are, just as you have to prove that you are who you say you are in order to do almost anything

00:50:10.940 else in adult life. From buying alcohol, to renting a car, to staying at a hotel, to procuring an

00:50:15.360 apartment or a home, etc., the people who oppose the laws then oppose them because they want the

00:50:20.640 process of voting to be far less secure than the process of buying a six-pack of Heineken at the

00:50:27.000 gas station. And why is that? Because they want voter fraud. There is no other reason to take the 0.85

00:50:36.420 position that they've taken. That is pretty clear. And for that reason, Kamala Harris is canceled.

00:50:46.120 And we'll leave it there for today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great day.

00:50:51.620 Godspeed.

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00:51:40.620 Today on the Ben Shapiro Show, massive pro-freedom demonstrations break out in Cuba.

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The Matt Walsh Show - July 12, 2021

Ep. 751 - The Truth About Caitlyn Jenner

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