Ep. 757 - Yes Of Course We Should Legislate Morality
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Many people claim that we should not be legislating morality or forcing our morality on others. I disagree. I think that s exactly what we should do. And I'll explain why today. And our 5 headlines: Jeff Bezos launches himself into space, the American Academy of Pediatrics calls for children to wear masks as the new school year starts, as we remain stuck in this never-ending time warp, and also new and damning revelations about the state representative of Minnesota who claims he was racially profiled during a traffic stop. And in our daily cancellation, we'll discuss a viral video which shows that some Americans literally don't know what century they're currently living in. All of that and much more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, many people claim that we should not be legislating morality or
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forcing our morality on others. I disagree. I think that's exactly what we should do,
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and I'll explain why today. And our five headlines, Jeff Bezos launches himself into
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space. The American Academy of Pediatrics calls for children to wear masks as the new school year
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starts, as we remain stuck in this never-ending time warp. And also new and damning revelations
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about the state representative of Minnesota who claims he was racially profiled during a traffic
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stop. And NPR puts out a hit piece on The Daily Wire, and in our daily cancellation, we'll discuss
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a viral video which shows that some Americans literally don't know what century they're
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currently living in. All of that and much more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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Now, we discussed yesterday the story of the self-proclaimed conservative porn star,
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quote-unquote, who has found many defenders on the right after she was kicked out of a conference
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for conservative high school students. Today, it's apparently consistent with our values to have
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hardcore porn stars at events for teenagers. In a few years, no doubt, these same conservatives will
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be insisting that just because someone is in a cannibal sex cult, that shouldn't preclude them
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from becoming a youth pastor. Dems are the real cannibal phobes. But I've already said all that
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needs to be said on that topic and probably more than needs to be said about it, as is my custom.
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Instead, I'd like to focus in on and analyze a claim that's been made in relation to this subject,
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and has also been made, of course, countless times before. The claim that you're familiar with
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is that we should not be trying to enforce our morality or legislate our morality or impose
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our morality. Instead, we should be advocates for freedom. We should simply leave people alone and
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let them live as they choose. You've heard this, I'm sure, over and over again. Maybe you've said
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it yourself over and over again. Never mind that this really has nothing to do with the porn star at the
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student conference thing. It doesn't, but that's fine. It's an interesting discussion nonetheless.
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And it's important because it brings us back to some very fundamental questions.
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So, should we want to enforce our morality or even legislate our morality, thereby imposing it
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on other people who may or may not agree with it? The answer is, emphatically, yes, we should.
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Definitely. So, here's a basic concept, and we can't get anywhere, really, until we've grasped it.
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All laws are based in morality. Every piece of legislation ever written anywhere on earth for
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all of time has legislated morality. Every law everywhere always represents an imposition of
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morality. Everyone who lives in a country governed by laws lives, therefore, in a country where morality
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is being forced on them. There are no exceptions to this. You cannot escape it. Laws against murder,
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everyone agrees with those, except if it's murder inside the womb. But laws against murder are based
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on the belief that murder is evil. If murder was not evil, then it shouldn't be illegal. If murder was
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good, then we should be allowed to do it. Nothing that is truly good should be illegal. That doesn't mean
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that all evil things should be illegal, necessarily, but it does mean that only what is evil should be
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illegal, and all that is good should be legal. Everyone basically agrees with this intuitively
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until it's pointed out. So, what I just said there, that's how everyone operates. You just assume that
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until someone says it out loud, and then for some reason, many people become disturbed by the belief
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that they themselves have always held without fully realizing it. This applies with the really
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important laws. The big laws, like the laws against murder, goes all the way down to traffic laws.
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The law requiring you to wear a seatbelt is grounded in the idea that seatbelts protect people from harm,
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and it's morally good to protect people from harm. Every law either forbids people from doing something
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or requires them to do something. I can't really think of any law that doesn't do, in effect, one of
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those things. Why are we forbidding people from doing that thing, whatever it is? Well, because that
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thing is bad, or so the government claims. Why are we requiring them to do something? Well, because
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that thing is good, or so the government claims. Obviously, the moral code that informs any given law can be
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wrong, horribly wrong in some cases, but there must be some kind of moral code. If you dig to the bottom
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of any law, and you find that there is no moral code or moral claim informing it, then that law
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should be, then that law by definition would be arbitrary, which would make it tyrannical, and it
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shouldn't exist. I mean, what would an amoral or non-moral law even be? How would it be justified?
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What would that look like? What would it sound like? A legislator would say, I'm introducing a
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bill to make it illegal to wear a red shirt on Tuesdays between three and four o'clock.
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And the public would say, would ask, why? Why that law? Is it harmful? Is it bad to wear a red
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shirt during that time? Where is this coming from? No, no, no. It isn't bad, but still, it should be
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illegal. At least I'm not legislating morality. Even the people who say they don't want the government
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to legislate morality would have a problem with a law like that precisely because it doesn't
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legislate morality. Whenever a law is proposed, the first thing everyone wants to know is whether
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that law has a moral basis. That's like the only thing anyone cares about with any law. That's what
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every argument about every law is really about. If a law doesn't have a moral basis or if the moral
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argument for it is not persuasive, then we oppose the law. This is how everyone operates, even as
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most of us claim that we don't want any laws to be based on morality. And that's because we're very
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confused. And we haven't taken even 15 seconds to figure out what we actually believe and why we
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believe it. Now, the way people try to get around this is by saying, well, I don't want laws that are
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moral or religious. I just want the law to protect my rights. That's all I want. Now, people should be
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able to do whatever they want as long as they aren't hurting me or taking my rights away.
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There are a number of serious problems with that logic, starting with the fact that the whole idea
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of your rights is a religious idea from the start. I hate to tell you. It is, well, I don't hate to
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tell you, but you might hate to hear it. It is almost entirely based on the belief, human rights, I mean,
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entirely based on the belief that we are created by a supernatural power and imbued with these human
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rights during that process. That's what it says in the Declaration of Independence. And that's really
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the only basis for inherent human rights that anyone has ever come up with. The doctrine of human rights
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is just that. It's a doctrine. Human rights were not discovered by science. They aren't a fact that can be
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seen. You can't open up someone's body during an autopsy and say, well, that's where the human rights are
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right there. Doesn't work that way. They don't exist, human rights, in any physical sense except written in the
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law. But we all believe or claim to believe that the law doesn't invent the right so much as protect what is
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already inherently, though invisibly present. If the government invented rights, if the government
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decided who has rights and who doesn't, then you'd never be able to claim that the government is
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infringing on your rights because they're the ones who decide. So if you have ever claimed that the
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government is infringing on your rights, then you are claiming that human rights are this inherent,
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invisible, supernatural thing, which is a religious idea, a spiritual idea. If you believe in inherent
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human rights, you are religious. You are. And aside from that, wherever these rights come from,
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why exactly shouldn't someone take them away from you? Why shouldn't someone harm you?
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I don't want anyone to legislate morality. I just don't think you should be hurting me.
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Well, why not? Why shouldn't I go up and punch you right in the nose? Why shouldn't I shoot you in
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the head? Yeah, because it hurts, I imagine. You don't like it. It would make you sad.
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And then you'd be dead. Okay, but why should I give a damn about that? Why does that matter?
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See, eventually, whether you like it or not, you have to say that your rights should be protected
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and you should be preserved from physical harm because it's evil to take your rights away or
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cause you harm. Whatever it is that you think should be legally prohibited, your reason for
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holding that position is that you think that thing or that act is morally wrong.
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What is the point here? Is this just semantics? No, this is as far from semantics as it gets.
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What we're talking about is the nature of law itself. I would call that anything but semantics.
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And we can't really have a coherent and fruitful conversation about laws unless we all understand
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what they are and why they exist. That's why we don't have any fruitful conversations or debates
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in this country at all because no one knows what they believe.
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We're using a lot of terms, laws, rights, equality. Very few people have stopped to even think about
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what they're saying or what any of that means or where it comes from.
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Now, once we do understand these things, once we've all acknowledged that laws are moral constructs
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by definition, and we've dispensed with this don't legislate morality silliness, this childish garbage,
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then we can talk about the morals themselves. Because just because all laws have a moral basis,
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that doesn't mean all laws are moral. Obviously not. The morals that the laws are rooted in can be wrong,
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sometimes horrifically, murderously wrong, going back to abortion. The people who argue for the laws
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that protect abortion rights, they're making a moral argument for those laws. Saying it's wrong to
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infringe on a woman's bodily autonomy, so on and so forth. It's just that the moral argument they're
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making is bad and wrong. See, our criticism of the law, in the case of abortion, for example,
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is not that it has a moral basis. It's not that, oh, you're imposing morals on me.
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It's that it has a bad moral basis. We want a law, a system, a country, a society grounded in good morals,
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correct morals, not bad morals. Not to oversimplify, but that's it. We certainly don't want a country
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grounded in no morals at all. We're not nihilists. Even most nihilists aren't really nihilists. If
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they were really nihilists, they would have, they'd be dead by now from suicide. So this is what we have
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to get around to, especially as conservatives. And it's a simple concept. We are fighting for a moral
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society, moral laws, moral government. And that's a good thing to fight for. It's nothing to be ashamed
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of. We should say it out loud and then get to work. Now let's get to our five headlines.
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slash careers. So Jeff Bezos launched himself into space. Today is the second billionaire in a week to do
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that. Richard Branson was before him. The internet has reacted to this, and I think he launched this
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morning, and I'm pretty sure he came back down safely. I never did check. I assume if Jeff Bezos
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had exploded or was drifting off to Jupiter right now, I probably would have seen that in the news.
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So he launched into space, came back down safely, and the internet has reacted to the news as you'd
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expect. Lots of people complaining that Bezos is rich. There's a lot of that. Lots of people laughing
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because the spaceship looks like a penis. Typical thoughtful type of analysis that you anticipate
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from social media. And I'm okay with all that. You know, the phallus jokes, the general Jeff Bezos
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hate, fine. I mean, the ship does look kind of like a penis, and that is sort of funny. And Jeff Bezos
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is pretty awful. I'm certainly not a Jeff Bezos apologist or fan. However, what I can't abide are the
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people acting like. It's insignificant or boring that private individuals are now launching themselves
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into space. It's a big deal, and it does matter, and it's a good thing, and it's also impressive.
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As much as I don't like Jeff Bezos, it is impressive that he started this company in his garage
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30 years ago, and now he's launching himself into space with a rocket ship that he funded with his own
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money. I mean, I'd call that impressive. We can acknowledge that, can't we?
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But beyond that, beyond Jeff Bezos himself, you know, this is, it's a good development,
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and it's exciting to be on the cusp of this. As I explained last week, yes, right now, suborbital
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space is a playground for billionaires. That's true. That's what it is right now. But many new
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advancements start that way. There was a time when a basic blender, you know, would have cost you the
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equivalent of like 500 bucks. There was a time when only rich people had cars or microwaves or TVs,
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you know, and the list goes on. But that's at the beginning. So we're at the beginning of something,
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and with the government deciding not to push out into space and explore, because that's the other
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thing I've heard that, oh, we, you know, we went to the moon decades ago, and now he's just going to
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suborbital space. What's the big deal? That's not impressive. Well, I, again, I do think it's pretty
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impressive to go to space at all. It's probably more impressive than anything you've done in your
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life. Um, but, uh, even, even more than that, you know, the fact that we went to the moon and then
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just stopped going, well, that's, that's the government. And so now we have private individuals,
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private actors, um, who are pushing out, innovating and sparking perhaps what will be a new age
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of discovery and innovation. How is that not exciting to you? I don't get it. Be excited about this.
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Damn you. Um, and here's, here's the other thing you need. Yeah. Jeff Bezos is, uh, is an a-hole,
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but you need rich a-holes to do stuff like this. I mean, history shows us that that's what you need.
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Elon Musk wants to send people to Mars. Is that, is that insane to do that? Maybe.
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Maybe. I mean, who would want to go to Mars right now? Even way in the future, there's actually some
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sort of colony built on Mars. Who would want to go live there in this desolate wasteland where you
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got to live in a bubble? Who would want to do that? I mean, I don't want to do it. I'm not signing up
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for it. It's kind of a crazy thing to do. And you could argue all you want that is a massive waste of
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money. Well, you need, if we want to push new boundaries and explore and discover and, um, expand
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our horizons in a very little, literal sense, then you need people with lots of money at their disposal
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who are willing to do things that seem insane and suicidal.
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That's been the case for explorers and discoverers going back centuries and centuries.
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And, uh, now you've got billionaires stepping up to do it. And, uh, I got to say, I mean, of all the
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things they could be spending their money on, I think this is one of the best things they could
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be spending their money on. I think it was Jeff Bezos also bought, I think he was the billionaire,
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maybe it was someone else, another billionaire who bought one of the, recently bought one of the
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biggest yachts in the world with its own pride, with its own backup yacht that goes with it,
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its own support yacht. And you get a billionaire spending money on stuff like that. Um, which is
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nothing but pure vanity and nothing more and vanity and luxury. This might be vanity too,
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but it could take us, you know, in a, in a, in an exciting direction as a species. And so I'm in
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favor of that. All right. This is from, uh, here's something that I'm not in favor of. This is from NBC.
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It says everyone older than age two should wear masks, regardless of vaccination status. When
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schools reopen in the fall, according to updated guidance from the American Academy of Pediatrics
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released on Monday, the leading national pediatrician group said it recommends universal masking
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because so much of the student population isn't yet eligible for vaccination. It's not clear how
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quickly that will change or how likely parents will be to get their younger children dosed when the
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federal government approves shots for kids under 12. Uh, let me be one parent to step up right now and
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say, even though I'm not sending my kids to public school, uh, my kids also certainly will not be
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in line to get dosed whenever that possibility opens up for them. I will, we will be respectfully
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declining. Thank you very much. Oh, you want to inject this, uh, drug into my children's arm to
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protect them from an illness that poses almost no risks to that to them already. Tempting, but no,
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thank you. Uh, it continues research consistently shows opening schools in person doesn't generally
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increase community COVID transmission when masks and other protocols are employed and the emergence
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of more contagious variants, some of which are linked to more severe outcomes poses a particular threat
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to people who aren't vaccinated. Uh, and that's why we're going to put the masks on kids over the age of
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two. So three-year-olds in preschool are going to be masked. Forget about the studies that have shown
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that, that, uh, this is doing more harm than good because of all the bacteria and the grossness that's
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accumulating in these masks. And these kids are breathing in all day to protect them from a virus
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that once again poses almost no risk to them. And that was the case when this thing was raging out
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of control and there was no vaccine and, uh, and very little herd immunity at all. That was the case
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a year ago, a year and a half ago. We knew that there was no reason to shut the schools down or put
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masks on kids last year. And how much more is that the case now when hundreds of millions of adults
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have acquired immunity, either from prior infection or from the, from the vaccine?
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There is no getting around this. It, it, it, it, it is just a fact that the flu poses a greater
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threat to young kids, especially now than COVID ever has. That is a statistical fact.
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So if we're putting masks on the kids for COVID, then they should just be wearing masks all the time,
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everywhere, never ending. And if you, and if you're proposing, if you support masking kids now,
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you should have been, you should have been arguing for that five years ago, 10 years ago. You should
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have always been arguing for that. There's no getting around this. And so the people who advocate
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masking kids, how do they get around it? They, they simply ignore this reality. You can't get them to
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acknowledge it. You're, you, you can, you can try to beat this into their skulls as much as you
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metaphorically, as much as you, as much as you want. There's, there is just a, there's a resistance
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there. They have their own immunity. They're immune from reason and logic. I've tried this so many
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times. I'm sure you have also, where they're talking to somebody in person or online and they
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say, well, we need, we need masks on kids. It's still, it's still out there. They're not vaccinated.
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Yes, but it poses almost no risk to them. The flu is a greater risk. What don't you understand
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about you? Grab them by the collar. Why is this so difficult? And it's a blank stare.
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Their brains have been so warped by the, by the panic porn being pushed on them that they can't,
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it, it, it doesn't sink in. And it doesn't help when you got guys like Fauci who appeared on CNN
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yesterday, uh, saying that, uh, the American Academy of Pediatrics telling us to muzzle our
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three-year-olds. He says it's a, it's a reasonable thing to do. Let's listen to Fauci.
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Well, I think that's along the same lines as what we've seen with the health authorities
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in Los Angeles, which in the general population has said the same thing, that when you have
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a degree of viral dynamics in the community and you have a substantial proportion of the population
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that is unvaccinated, that you really want to go the extra step, the extra mile to make sure that
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there's not a lot of transmission, even breakthrough infections among vaccinated individuals. And for
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that reason, you can understand why the, uh, the American Academy of Pediatrics might want to do
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that. They just want to be extra safe. I think, you know, it's important. The CDC recommendations
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may be at variance with that, but in, in, in, in every respect, the CDC always leaves open
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the flexibility at the part of local agencies, local enterprises, local cities and states to make
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a judgment call based on the situation on the ground. So I think that the American Academy of
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Pediatrics, you know, they're a thoughtful group. They analyze the situation. And if they feel that
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that's the way to go, I think that's reasonable thing to do.
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Yeah. Pure, pure, pure cowardice from Fauci. You can tell from his answer, I would almost prefer to
00:24:58.620
hear him. Uh, I would prefer not to hear him at all. Let me be clear, but it would be not quite as
00:25:08.160
bad, but still bad if he was more aggressive about it and said, Oh, absolutely. We need to have masks on
00:25:13.720
kids. You know, this is, this is what we need to do. And he was, he was much more direct and aggressive
00:25:18.400
about it, but you could tell from his answer that he knows that the kids don't need to wear masks. He knows
00:25:23.840
that he's just trying the best he can to rationalize what the American Academy of Pediatrics is saying
00:25:29.960
here for no reason other than, you know, there, he thinks they're sort of on the same team. He's going to
00:25:35.840
have their back. He doesn't care about the kids, much less about the truth, but, uh, the American Academy
00:25:41.580
of Pediatrics, maybe, maybe they go to the same cocktail parties, the people there and him, and he doesn't want
00:25:46.940
to upset them. I don't know what the reasoning is, but he knows that there's no reason for this. It's thoughtful.
00:25:56.260
This is a thought, thoughtful and reasonable. No, it's not. It's, it's, it's the opposite of that. This is the
00:26:01.460
opposite of thoughtful because the precedent that you're setting here, what you're, what you're saying is that there
00:26:10.260
needs to be zero risk of COVID. There needs to be zero COVID and zero risk before we can take the
00:26:17.040
masks off. Because right now for kids, especially at the age group we're talking about, the threat is
00:26:24.340
as close to zero as it can get. Can't get much closer without being zero. The threat, especially of
00:26:31.460
severe, uh, reaction to COVID for kids close to zero.
00:26:40.260
Uh, and if that's not good enough, then what you're saying is we need zero risk,
00:26:45.940
which means never take the mask off because there's never going to be zero risk.
00:26:52.680
And even if there was, even if we could eradicate COVID completely, it didn't exist anymore.
00:26:58.140
COVID-19 out is gone, which, which isn't going to happen. That was never really in the cards.
00:27:04.520
It's always going to be there. It's going to be around probably more of a seasonal thing. And there's a
00:27:09.180
vaccine for it now, but even if we could eradicate it, so now there's zero risk of that, but there's,
00:27:16.240
but there's, there's not zero risk of it. There are plenty of other things out there
00:27:20.900
where the risk is above zero. So is this the only risk we're worried about? And once that goes away,
00:27:29.240
If you're saying zero risk of COVID, why just COVID? Why not zero risk of anything else?
00:27:39.300
It doesn't make any logical sense. It's not thoughtful in the slightest. And this is why
00:27:44.620
one of the great casualties, not just of the pandemic, but before that and beyond it is that
00:27:48.940
health authorities, so-called health authorities and the entire medical industry has completely lost
00:27:53.880
both its scientific credibility and its moral standing. It has lost its moral and scientific
00:27:59.240
credibility. Again, that's not only because of COVID. These are the same people who tell us that
00:28:05.320
we should, you know, start giving hormone pills and, uh, gender affirmation surgeries to minors.
00:28:12.140
So they would lose their scientific credibility and moral standing based on that alone.
00:28:17.360
But this is only speeding up that process. Nobody cares what these people have to say anymore.
00:28:21.580
No one's listening except the most deluded people.
00:28:31.760
All right. Uh, moving on an update to a story that we've covered on the show. You may recall
00:28:36.080
representative John Thompson. He's the Minnesota state representative who was pulled over
00:28:40.060
for a traffic violation and then immediately claimed that he was racially profiled. It was a lie.
00:28:44.800
Of course he wasn't. And they released the body cam footage and nothing inappropriate happened in the
00:28:49.100
body cam footage. He committed a violation. They pulled him over. The cop was nice and respectful,
00:28:53.180
even as Thompson was, was belligerent and angry and accusing him of racism. But it also turned out
00:28:58.140
that Thompson had a suspended license, a suspended out of state license. Um, if he doesn't, he doesn't
00:29:04.940
have any license and the license was suspended because he wasn't paying child support payments. So the
00:29:11.180
guy's a deadbeat dad, big surprise there. Um, but, but he doesn't have a license in the state he represents.
00:29:19.060
In fact, as it has developed over the last week or so, it's not clear that he's a resident at all
00:29:24.420
of the state he represents, much less the district. And he's been asked about this. There was a video of
00:29:31.740
someone who saw him at the airport and was saying, you know, representative, are you a resident of your own
00:29:39.680
district? And he wouldn't answer the question. And now this from Fox nine, uh, in St. Paul, it says in searching
00:29:48.740
for state representative, John Thompson's residency, Fox nine has uncovered four cases of domestic violence with
00:29:54.560
allegations that Thompson punched, hit and choked women. According to the police reports from 2003 to 2009, in some
00:30:01.660
cases, the assaults happen in the presence of young children. Questions about Thompson's residency were
00:30:06.160
raised after he was stopped by St. Paul police on July 4th for not having a front license plate. Uh, he
00:30:10.820
accused them of, uh, uh, racial profiling. We know about that. Okay. The domestic violence cases stretch
00:30:15.420
back to 2003 in superior Wisconsin, when Thompson was arrested after he allegedly struck his girlfriend
00:30:20.800
in the face with an open and closed fist. The woman's five-year-old daughter witnessed the assault,
00:30:26.180
which happened in a supermarket parking lot. Thompson's girlfriend said she and her child were
00:30:30.940
homeless and declined to cooperate. Uh, Thompson apparently fled the scene in that case.
00:30:36.980
Thompson allegedly attacked the same girlfriend nearly a year later on in August of 2004 at her
00:30:42.200
apartment. Police arrived after a 911 hangup call. Um, she said that Thompson choked her and then,
00:30:51.100
uh, she said she ran out of the apartment screaming, but Thompson grabbed her and dragged her back to the
00:30:56.500
apartment. She said she tried to escape through a window. She told police Thompson became angry when
00:31:01.900
she dialed 911 from another phone and began hitting her in the head, punching her in the face. And then
00:31:06.040
then he grabbed her and threw her into the kitchen table, which broke all of her children witness the
00:31:12.160
assault. Um, and then in September, what else do we have here? It's September, 2009. St. Paul police
00:31:19.480
officers responded to a call of domestic violence involving Thompson and two women. Thompson and the
00:31:23.820
women were fighting about a cell phone he received from another girlfriend. It's unclear from the report
00:31:27.880
if it's the girlfriend from the previous case. Uh, during the, that 2009 incident, according to reports,
00:31:33.660
as the yelling escalated, Thompson pulled out his penis in front of his girlfriend and two young
00:31:38.440
children and said, I'm the man you can all. And then he had some sexually explicit things to say. Um, and
00:31:45.820
then he, there was another case of domestic violence as well. So this is someone allegedly involved in a,
00:31:51.500
is allegedly a serial domestic abuser. Who's also, who's also exposed himself to children.
00:31:59.460
We know that part of it. The left has no problem with that whatsoever. Um, and they really don't
00:32:03.760
have a problem with the domestic violence either, especially when it comes to these BLM martyrs.
00:32:09.840
It, it, it is, it is really incredible how consistent this is. You know, I always point this out
00:32:16.660
and I can, and continually pointing it out because it keeps happening. These BLM martyrs and John
00:32:23.160
Thompson tried to be, he wants to be one of them, tried to martyr himself. Um, almost always, it turns
00:32:32.180
out that these are violent abusers of women. And yet again, it's the same thing here and no big
00:32:39.120
surprise, actually, because here's John Thompson before he was elected. This is back in 2020.
00:32:46.840
Before he was elected, standing outside of a white family's house where kids are present,
00:32:52.660
screaming at them for having a blue lives matter sign in their yard. Let's listen to that.
00:32:58.120
Black skin, I mean, I'm a black man being terrorized by this f***ing clansman right here.
00:33:03.420
We are terrorized by the Grand Wizard. Y'all got the Grand Wizard living in your f***ing
00:33:08.880
neighborhood. All the clans exist in Hugo, Minnesota. And it's right here. Don't run now.
00:33:14.340
Don't run now, racist white people. I'm here. Oh yeah, we pull up. We pull the f***ing out.
00:33:21.800
And we're here. Come on over here with your blue lives matter saying. Blue lives ain't s***ing.
00:33:27.060
And if people in Hugo don't support black people, f***ing Hugo, Minnesota.
00:33:31.240
Yeah, he's being terrorized by the family, those women. It's all women out there, including kids.
00:33:44.440
He's terrorized by them because of what a sign they have in the yard.
00:33:49.000
And after that incident, which went viral, at least locally, he was elected. And not in spite of that.
00:33:58.840
These voters elected him because of that. They want these scumbag pieces of garbage representing
00:34:06.260
them. That's what they want. And they get exactly, and this is what you get when you elect people like
00:34:12.060
this. This is exactly what you get. Voters in his district, you absolute morons.
00:34:19.760
You are bad people also for electing someone like that. That is a moral failing to elect someone
00:34:28.940
like that. You elected him because you liked the way he screamed at white people. What other
00:34:36.300
qualifications did he bring to the table? He's not even a resident of your district. He doesn't
00:34:41.200
even live with you. But he really liked how he, you know, how he showed those white girls
00:34:48.240
what's what. This is not, we got to stop acting like voters are, you know, innocent, helpless
00:34:56.840
victims. You went to the polls and voted for this guy. You're not much better than him.
00:35:03.260
Just, this guy's a liar, a fraud, an abuser, a horrible scumbag garbage person.
00:35:14.060
And yeah, you know, elect him to represent you. Well, he represents you. You want him to represent
00:35:20.000
you. And so he does. He's garbage. I don't know if the shoe fits. You wanted him representing
00:35:28.020
you. All right, moving on. NPR has, um, exposed the daily wire. This is quite the, uh, quite
00:35:38.940
the expose. So apparently the daily wire of which, uh, I, I may shock you to learn I am
00:35:45.280
employed by the daily wire. Uh, so we do pretty well on Facebook and that's, that's a problem.
00:35:51.900
That's a, that's a big issue that people, people on Facebook like to engage with our content.
00:35:56.700
That's a big problem. And so the NPR has this, uh, article, uh, expose a written by miles
00:36:03.760
parks. And the headline is outrage as a business model, how Ben Shapiro is using Facebook to
00:36:10.120
build an empire. Of course, we're talking about all the irony of the media, uh, the mainstream
00:36:16.800
left-wing media claiming that we're using outrage as a business model. I mean, they, that,
00:36:23.340
they spent the last, why is it that the ratings in the mainstream media and the audience is taking
00:36:29.040
a nosedive right now? Because their whole business model for the last five years has been nothing but
00:36:34.780
outrage over Donald Trump. And now he's not in the scene anymore and they got nothing else to talk
00:36:39.300
about. They have to find some other target for their outrage. And their target in this case is us.
00:36:47.040
Ironically, as they accuse us of doing the exact same thing. This is the same media that sent a
00:36:53.540
lynch mob after some, after some, some, some kids in DC because they were smiling at a native American
00:37:00.520
man. They made that into a national story and they're worried about outrage being used as a
00:37:07.820
business model. Okay. But here's what miles parks has to say. Uh, the conservative podcast hosts,
00:37:13.120
Ben Shapiro and author's personal Facebook page has more followers in the Washington post and he
00:37:18.040
drives an engagement machine unparalleled by anything else on the world's biggest social
00:37:22.240
networking site. An NPR analysis of social media data found that over the past year,
00:37:27.000
stories published by the site, Shapiro founded the daily wire received more like shares and
00:37:31.600
comments on Facebook than any other news publisher by a wide margin. Even legacy news organizations have
00:37:37.540
broken major stories or produce groundbreaking investigative work, but don't come anywhere close.
00:37:42.300
Well, sucks for them. What can I say? Daily wire articles with headlines, such as book review proof
00:37:49.360
that wokeness is projection by nervous racist white woman who can't talk to minorities without
00:37:53.720
elaborate codes regularly garner tens of thousands of shares for the site. And Shapiro is turning that
00:37:58.540
Facebook reach into a rapidly expanding cost-efficient media empire. One that experts worry may be further,
00:38:05.100
furthering polarization in the United States. Well, if the experts are worried,
00:38:10.180
then what can you say? It continues. The daily wire has turned anger into an art form and recycled
00:38:18.860
content into a business model. In May, the daily wire generated more Facebook engagement on its
00:38:25.080
articles than the New York times, the Washington post, NBC news, and CNN combined. This, all this is
00:38:30.580
blatantly is jealousy. They are jealous of the traffic we get. And that's, that's all this is. These are like
00:38:39.180
the teenage girls jealous of, of one of the other teenage girls and spreading rumors about her. That's,
00:38:46.060
that's all this comes back to really. This is a mean girls thing. Um, and of course, in reality,
00:38:53.660
in reality, Facebook is doing quite a lot to throttle our traffic and keep our engagement down.
00:39:03.540
Believe you me, Facebook is aware of this problem that, uh, people with unapproved opinions are having
00:39:11.260
some success, you know, uh, interacting with people and, uh, and engaging with people on their platform.
00:39:19.340
And they're, they're, they are taking steps to address it. And that's all. And that really is
00:39:24.460
what this article is, is meant to do. Even though, as far as I read, and honestly, I didn't read the
00:39:29.800
entire thing. Um, I did skim through to see if my own name was mentioned like a narcissist. And, uh,
00:39:37.000
what I'm most offended by is that it wasn't, I mean, I'm spreading hate and outrage too. I don't get a
00:39:43.080
mention. I think that's pretty outrageous, but, um, as far as I could tell, they don't, they don't,
00:39:50.840
they stopped short of directly calling for Facebook to kick us off of their platform,
00:39:55.420
but that is what they're calling for. Very, very thinly veiled. What they're saying to Facebook is,
00:40:01.300
Hey, hint, hint, nudge, nudge. This is a problem. You've got these right wingers that are using your
00:40:08.000
platform and they've got an audience. Maybe someone should do something about that. I don't
00:40:13.420
know. Wink. That's all, that's all this comes back to, but what do they actually have a problem
00:40:19.440
with? I mean, let's, why is it that the daily wire is so successful on Facebook? Is it a conspiracy?
00:40:30.200
Is Facebook going out of their way to help us? Clearly not. That would appear to be the left-wing
00:40:37.420
media. What they're insinuating is that, is that Facebook, what, as a right wing bias is trying to
00:40:44.560
help us, trying to help Ben Shapiro and the daily wire. No, um, we do well on Facebook in spite of
00:40:53.580
Facebook's, you know, algorithm and, and, and the things that they've done, the policy they put in
00:40:58.660
place in spite of that, simply because, and I'll tell you what it is, people like the content.
00:41:07.420
If you can believe it, people enjoy the content we're putting out there. It speaks to them.
00:41:14.460
And so they engage with it. That's our secret sauce. I don't want to give away the whole
00:41:21.520
business model, but that, that really is it. People like it. Um, and, uh, and they engage with it.
00:41:29.680
And that is the media is real problem. I hate to tell you, it's not, it's, it's not us. It's you
00:41:37.880
that they have a problem. They don't think that you should like this kind of content. You should
00:41:43.760
not agree with these kinds of opinions. You should agree with them. And if they can't convince you,
00:41:49.780
then instead what they want to do is knock out all the competitors so that their opinions are the
00:41:54.760
only ones available and you have no choice, but to engage with their opinions and, uh, and to be
00:41:59.800
exposed to their opinions. And maybe if you're exposed to it for long enough, you'll, you'll be
00:42:03.720
beaten down into submission and start agreeing with them. That ultimately is the plan. Uh, and
00:42:10.000
that's why we, uh, we want more people. We want more people so we can spread our outrage and our,
00:42:16.740
and our hatred even more. So you can get a daily wire. Uh, you can become a daily wire subscriber today
00:42:22.260
using coupon code, you mad, you M a D, and you can get 25% off. And that way, if, if the Facebook
00:42:30.660
does take the hint here and try to shut us down, if you're a daily wire subscriber, then you don't
00:42:34.800
have to worry about, you don't have to use Facebook as the gatekeeper to access us. So we would
00:42:39.420
certainly suggest doing that. All right. I got to leave time for this because we have to move on to
00:42:43.080
our reading the YouTube comments. I'm very excited about what we have in store. Um, kind of a special
00:42:49.180
edition of reading the YouTube comments today. Um, it, it, this is something that was brought to my
00:42:56.420
attention. Um, it's a video from YouTube user Sloopy 107. That's Sloopy 107 is a YouTube user
00:43:04.400
who has written what I think is the sweet baby gang anthem. Um, she was inspired by the sweet baby gang
00:43:13.240
to break out into song. We'll play a short clip of it, but make sure to go to her channel. You could see
00:43:18.320
the entire thing. It's certainly worth, worth watching the entire thing. Um, and I wanted to
00:43:22.740
experience this for the first time with all of you, my sweet babies. So I haven't listened to very
00:43:27.740
much of it, but, um, here it is. Let's, let's all listen together.
00:43:31.320
We're the sweet baby gang. God bless America. From sea to shining sea, we're denouncing propaganda.
00:43:47.100
We're the sweet baby gang. We're the truth slate pair. We're the sweet baby gang. Ask why if you dare.
00:43:56.400
We get our five headlines and our daily cancellation. With reality and brevity,
00:44:04.780
we get the news of the nation. From a heart that any abuela would love. Speaking truth while searching
00:44:15.220
for those aliens above. We're the sweet baby gang. We're the sweet baby gang. God bless America.
00:44:24.140
From sea to shining sea, we're denouncing propaganda. We're the sweet baby gang. We're the truth slate pair.
00:44:34.720
We're the sweet baby gang. Ask why if you dare.
00:44:38.360
Discernment, perspective, evidence, and reason. Cringy tick tocks and
00:44:47.240
Psaki's male reasons. The sweet baby gang is no quarter for commies. As far as we're concerned,
00:44:59.840
It's beautiful. It's really a tear coming to my eye. That I think is, and I don't want to
00:45:08.780
overstate it, and it's not just because it's about me, but I think you can make an argument
00:45:15.260
that that is the greatest artistic achievement, certainly in modern history, possibly of all
00:45:24.200
time. I don't think anyone has ever picked up a guitar or any musical instrument
00:45:32.580
and used their voice to create music more beautiful, more true and more profound than
00:45:42.220
what you just heard. Absolutely a stunning performance. There's music that will live on
00:45:52.920
in my heart for all time. So, Sloopy107, I do not ban you from the show. You are, what's
00:46:00.840
the opposite of banned? I need something else. I need a pause ignited, canonized, whatever it
00:46:06.820
is. I thank you for sharing that beautiful music with us.
00:46:11.380
As we discussed, NPR is using hyperbolic lies to accuse The Daily Wire of spreading hyperbolic
00:46:18.320
lies and hate and outrage and sadness all across the land. The establishment media tries
00:46:24.120
so hard to dominate every source of information, and when they can't, they're sore losers, mean
00:46:29.540
girls about it. Unfortunately for NPR and other legacy media, but fortunately for you, we're
00:46:33.820
hitting them again this time on podcast. Daily Wire presents Morning Wire, our daily news podcast
00:46:38.560
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00:46:52.200
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00:46:56.480
so you don't miss a beat. And also, while the White House attempts to censor anything they deem
00:47:01.920
misinformation is, and this is extraordinarily upsetting, it accurately depicts all of the themes
00:47:07.240
in Ben Shapiro's new book, The Authoritarian Moment, which hits bookshelves next Tuesday,
00:47:11.700
July 27th, so it's almost here. And it will be a huge event because Ben will be doing a live
00:47:18.300
stream book signing next Tuesday, so you can pre-order your signed copy now at dailywire.com
00:47:23.420
slash Ben. When you do, you'll be asked to type in a question at checkout, and then maybe
00:47:27.780
he'll answer that question, and you'll certainly get your signed copy. So get your copy at dailywire.com
00:47:33.220
slash Ben right now, so you don't miss out. Now let's get to our daily cancellation.
00:47:36.560
So it seems almost cheap to play this video for a daily cancellation because these things are a
00:47:46.160
dime a dozen, but the fact that they're a dime a dozen is precisely the point. I'm not sure when
00:47:50.880
this was originally filmed. Seems to be recent, but it went viral yesterday. This is conservative
00:47:54.720
commentator Caitlin Bennett doing one of those trusty, always fruitful, dumb guy on the street
00:47:58.920
interviews. Again, you've seen these a million times, and that's the problem. But this one is perhaps
00:48:07.940
What year did America declare its independence? Girl, July 1st, 1989. What year did Christopher
00:48:17.180
Columbus discover the Americas? Love Christopher, don't know. I mean, I'm done. Don't know. Christopher
00:48:21.880
was in 1976? How many years make up a century? Isn't it a thousand? What year was George W. Bush elected
00:48:29.820
president? The 1800s, I'm assuming? I don't know. Who was the last president of the 1990s?
00:48:41.000
1990s? Oh, uh, I actually have no idea. Nixon? What year was Barack Obama elected president?
00:48:49.240
I don't even know. What century are we currently living in? Let's just go 50th century. I don't know.
00:48:54.600
America was discovered in 1976 and declared independence on July 1st, 1989. Seems like a
00:49:01.680
pretty quick timeline. But then again, we are living in the 50th century. So all that stuff
00:49:05.220
happened, what, like 3,000 years ago? This is, needless to say, some extremely dumb stuff.
00:49:13.440
You have to try to be this dumb. It must be exhausting to be so overwhelmingly moronic on a
00:49:18.600
daily basis. Every hour of the day. Can you imagine? If I had to carry this level of stupidity
00:49:24.640
around with me all the time, I'd collapse and have a heart attack. The coroner would say,
00:49:28.420
yep, looks like you had a fatal case of the dumbs. Third one this week. It's an epidemic.
00:49:33.280
Now, all of the necessary qualifiers must be added that these were the dumbest of the dumb
00:49:37.360
who made it into the clip. Presumably, plenty of people answered the question easily and were
00:49:42.780
summarily cut from the final edit. But even so, it is way too easy to go out and get content like
00:49:49.720
this. We know that these kinds of videos are the tip of the idiot iceberg. There's been a great
00:49:55.340
many surveys and polls with larger sample sizes that have come to similar conclusions. Think of
00:49:59.760
that C-SPAN poll a few years ago that found half of Americans can't name one sitting Supreme Court
00:50:05.240
justice. There was a survey in 2019 that found 20% of Americans can't correctly identify a single
00:50:12.040
branch of government. A poll in 2017 showed that almost 40% can't cite any of the rights protected
00:50:18.900
in the First Amendment. The Woodrow Wilson National Fellowship Foundation gave a basic history exam to
00:50:23.960
41,000 American adults a year or two ago and found that 60% couldn't pass it. Another survey found that
00:50:31.360
almost 40% of Americans think that Benjamin Franklin invented the light bulb. 12% thought Eisenhower was a
00:50:37.480
civil war general. A civil war general, Eisenhower. I could go on and on and on. The point is that
00:50:45.820
stupidity is a national crisis. I believe that it is. And what makes it worse is that there is no
00:50:52.580
mitigating circumstance to let the stupid people off the hook. No adult with a brain capable of basic
00:50:59.680
functioning has any cover here. None of them have an excuse because everyone has access to the
00:51:06.640
accumulated knowledge of all mankind right at their fingertips. Everyone can find any information
00:51:13.220
they want. And accessing it is as easy as moving their thumbs across a screen. It's not like it was
00:51:20.340
in, say, 1890 when huge swaths of the population were never taught how to read. And their only source of
00:51:27.320
information about the outside world and current events was maybe at best a weekly newspaper that
00:51:32.480
a lot of them couldn't read. And then whatever scuttlebutt you heard around town, if you were
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within a day's travel of any kind of town. If they wanted to know something, if there was information
00:51:42.560
that they didn't have that they wanted, there was obviously no search engine with which to find it.
00:51:50.000
Although I would like to interview those same people and ask them, when do you think Google was
00:51:53.920
invented? I don't know, 1573? But if someone back in those days, you know, they couldn't use a search
00:52:03.040
engine. If they wanted to know something, they could ask someone or they could try to find the
00:52:07.320
information in whatever books were accessible. And if the information wasn't there, if nobody around
00:52:13.160
them knew it and it wasn't in a book, then they just weren't ever going to know that thing.
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They would have to say, well, I guess I'm not going to know that. There were so many things
00:52:25.280
about the world that a person in those days may have wanted to know, but simply could not know
00:52:30.240
because there was no way to acquire the knowledge. Compare that to today. If I want to know, for
00:52:37.840
instance, how many earths can fit in the sun, 1.3 million, or how old the oldest living vertebrate,
00:52:44.900
500-year-old Greenland shark is, or whether the pain in my back is a sign that I'm dying of a rare
00:52:50.100
bone disease? Yes. I can just look it up on the internet and have the answer in the blink of an
00:52:54.020
eye. And yet with this tool, with this vast expanse of knowledge readily available, still we choose
00:53:01.300
dumbness. It's like a guy in the desert collapsing and dying of thirst while wearing a camelback full of
00:53:08.500
water. It almost doesn't make any sense. So how does this happen? How do we end up snatching
00:53:16.600
imbecility from the jaws of knowledge? Well, part of the blame goes to the school system,
00:53:21.840
which has utterly failed to do the one thing it is supposed to do, and which we're paying good money
00:53:26.540
for it to do. Part of the blame goes to the media, which muddies the water with lies and half-truths.
00:53:32.440
Part of the blame goes to the internet itself, which offers knowledge, but also offers cheap and
00:53:36.500
constant distraction. It gives you the choice to feed your mind or numb it. Expand your horizons
00:53:44.220
or lose yourself in the fog. Most people, it turns out, prefer the numb and the fog because it's easy
00:53:50.660
and it keeps you from thinking about uncomfortable things like your own mortality, which I believe is
00:53:55.820
the primary motivator that drives our screen addiction in the first place, is that we don't
00:53:59.800
want to think about our mortality. But notice the word choice. The one thing about modern society
00:54:05.980
for all of its flaws is that it offers a lot of choices, more choices than anyone in history
00:54:13.760
ever had. Too many choices, it turns out. But they are choices all the same. Whether you use the
00:54:20.800
internet to make yourself smarter and more interesting, which you can do, or dumber and
00:54:25.740
duller is a choice. And that's why after partial blame has been doled out this way and that,
00:54:32.800
the rest, the majority, must fall on the ignoramuses themselves, whose obliviousness and foolishness
00:54:39.680
is as much a moral failing as an intellectual one. And that's why, and you knew this was coming back
00:54:45.980
around, because it always does, everyone in that video and all the videos like it should not be
00:54:52.200
allowed to vote. It is a, we make a mockery of ourselves by allowing all of those people to vote.
00:54:59.500
And it's also why, and you definitely knew this was coming, they're all canceled.
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Well, let's not focus on all those negative things. Let us, let us, let us focus on the song,
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the Sweet Baby song that is now in all of our hearts as we go about our day. And we'll leave
00:55:17.340
it there for today. We're going to let Sweet Baby play us out? We are. Have a great day, everyone.
00:55:23.680
We're the Sweet Baby Gang, and God bless America.
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