Ep. 823 - The Spoiled, Privileged Brats Who Wish They Were Oppressed
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Summary
Netflix employees protest Dave Chappelle's new comedy special, but it's not big enough. Plus, the WNBA celebrates National pronoun day, the State Department celebrates Pronouns Day, and Donald Trump launches his own social media platform, is it on its way to wild success or doomed to failure?
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, the LGBT Netflix employees finally held their big walkout yesterday
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to protest Dave Chappelle and biological science. Only it wasn't big, just a small assortment of
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people gathered for the demonstration. Many on the right think that the pathetic turnout was a
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failure and an embarrassment for the left, but I think they're missing the point completely.
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We'll talk about that. Also, the State Department celebrates National Pronouns Day, which is a thing
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now. And Donald Trump launches his own social media platform. Is it on its way to wild success
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or doomed to failure? Plus, the WNBA holds a parade in Chicago yesterday, and you have to see the
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footage to really appreciate it. In our daily cancellation, I must cancel a Republican
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candidate for a political ad. You've got to be careful watching as it may cause a fatal case
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of the cringe. We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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So yesterday, after much media buildup and extraordinary hype, a small collection of
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LGBT Netflix employees and their supporters rallied outside of Netflix headquarters in protest of a
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comedy special. A few dozen people showed up with a ratio of about three reporters to every one
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protester. It was reminiscent of a Joe Biden rally, both in terms of crowd size and demographic.
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Netflix itself has over 12,000 employees. Of those 12,000, maybe 12 participated in the walkout.
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And those 12 had significant support from not only the media, but Hollywood. Various trans and
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trans-affirming celebrities released statements and videos throwing their weight behind the protesters.
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Elliot Page, formerly Ellen Page, the Wachowski sisters, formerly the Wachowski brothers,
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Wanda Sykes, formerly Wanda Sykes, all along with many other celebrities to voice their support for
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the Netflix employees who were offended because Dave Chappelle said that women have vaginas.
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There were more obscure supporters on the scene as well. The Daily Beast gives us this story,
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quote, comedian Seven Graham, who is intersex, trans-mask, non-binary, and uses he, they pronouns,
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was in attendance at the protest, telling the Daily Beast they felt the special crossed the line.
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Quote, I actually found myself crying watching this special because it says some very difficult,
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very painful, very untrue things about who trans people are. Graham said, this special will be used
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by people to fuel that transphobia that has a very real world effect for trans people. As soon as I
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heard that trans employees were speaking out and amazing activists like Ashley Marie Preston were
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stepping up and organizing this demonstration, I knew that I had to go. Fellow protester Nick Bewick
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agreed, says, I was angry for days and I'm a fan of Dave Chappelle. I've been a fan since 2003. I've seen
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every single one of his episodes. I've seen every single special. Sticks and Stones kind of touched upon a few
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things, but it didn't really bother me as bad. This seemed gratuitously aimed at us and it wasn't
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funny. It was gratuitously mean. It was gratuitously not funny. It was just self-glorification,
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self-masturbation. I'm rich and famous. Let me spew out all the things that I think as if he was some
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sort of messiah. I think he got it twisted. So many people worship him and he's so out of touch.
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Yeah, who do you think you are, Dave Chappelle, giving your opinion like that? Who do you think you are?
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Some kind of messiah? You must have a messianic complex if you would dare give your opinion
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or tell jokes at a comedy special. See, I'm trying as hard as I can to picture a professed comedian
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sitting in his living room, watching a Dave Chappelle stand-up special and weeping.
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And I'm just having trouble conjuring that image. We have to keep in mind that the people in this
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assembly are, shall we say, special. And so, for example, just to put an image with the lining,
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let me play a clip of one of the protesters explaining why he or they or whatever showed
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up on Wednesday. Watch this. Yeah, my name is David Huggard. I'm a non-binary individual.
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I also go by the persona of Eureka O'Hara, which has been debuted on Repulse Drag Race,
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uh, Season 9, 10, All-Star 6, and HBO's We're Here.
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Okay, can I, uh, first name you gave me, can we spell that for you?
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David, D-A-V-I-D-H-U-G-G-A-R-D, and then Eureka, E-U-R-E-K-A-O-H-A-R-A.
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Amazing. So, I mean, firstly, I mean, like, why is it so important to be out here today?
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Yeah, no, it's important to be out here today because we have to stand in solidarity with each other.
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Obviously, uh, Ashley Marie Preston is a great advocate and a huge sister of mine,
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um, also a trans woman. As a non-binary person, we as trans people and non-binary people aren't
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getting visibility or respect in the entertainment industry to begin with. And to have something
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like Dave Stupel's special not be noted that it's promoting discrimination and hate conversation
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is very, um, hurtful to the activism and the cause that we're trying to progress ourselves in the
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industry. Well, it's good to see Brian Stelter getting involved in the community. But remember,
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this is someone we're supposed to listen to and take seriously. Eureka O'Hara deserves our attention
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and our respect. Also remember, they're not visible enough, even though 14 of them walked
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around carrying signs for an hour and they made it into the headlines of every major news publication.
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But still, not visible enough. And we need to make, we need, we need to make sure we're not having
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hate conversations, says Mr. Eureka. So we've progressed past hate speech and now it's hate
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conversation. Some conversations themselves are hateful. To simply talk about certain subjects
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is now an act of hate. That's what the activists are trying to tell us. And it explains why they
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responded violently to a quote unquote counter protester who showed up yesterday with a provocative
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and offensive sign that said, we like Dave and jokes are funny. That may seem like the most innocuous
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and innocent statement ever written on a sign in the whole history of signs, but that's not how the
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LGBT activists viewed it. Let's see how they responded.
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Now again, remember the sign says, we like jokes. They're angrily tearing it up.
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He's got a weapon. He's got a weapon. He's got a weapon.
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We're not trying to have anything to talk to you. I'm not to talk to anything.
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Okay. So to recap, he stood there peacefully with a sign that said jokes are funny.
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They accosted him, tore his sign apart, started shouting that he had a weapon and, uh, which is
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a great thing to do because there are cops all around and they're shouting, he has a weapon.
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I mean, you know, as far as they're concerned, they'd be fine getting the guy killed. They don't
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care. And that really is true. By the way, they're shouting, he's got a weapon because he's holding
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the stick that the sign was attached to that they just destroyed. And if a cop pulled out a gun
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and just shot him there on the spot, they'd be happy. They really would be. And then they got in
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his face and they tried to shove him, you know, out of the protest, but don't worry. The media made
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sure to report this incident fairly. Here's Variety. Um, here's their headline. At times,
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the Netflix walkout situation threatened to devolve as counter protesters pushed against trans
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speakers. That's the media's framing, doing everything they can, as always, to earn the enemy of the
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people moniker that, uh, that Trump gave them. Now let's think about the privilege on display here.
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The LGBT people at this protest belong to the most pampered, coddled, uh, celebrated, elevated,
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and disproportionately visible demographic in America. Some of them apparently also work for
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Netflix, one of the richest and most powerful corporations in the world. They live in Silicon
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Valley, employed by a fortune 500 company. They are applauded and worshiped just for existing.
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They are the very definition of privilege. And yet they pretend to be victimized over a comedy special.
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One guy tells one joke they don't like, and it's a national emergency. Everybody can bow before them,
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lay palms before their feet as they walk, follow them around cheering and fawning over them. And if one
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person, just one says anything mildly critical or makes a joke at their expense, they will collapse into a
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puddle and demand an FBI investigation and they'll get it. They'll get what they want because they
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always do. And that's why the small size of the protest is not an embarrassment for them. I mean,
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we can make fun of it. We can laugh it off, but they aren't ashamed. Why should they be ashamed?
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The crowd size is a symbol of power. The crowd displays its power by being small.
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Think about it. If you could go by yourself and stand outside of a major corporation's headquarters
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with a sign demanding that they take some sort of action at your behest and it worked and you got
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what you wanted, would that image of you standing there alone, a crowd of one, be embarrassing?
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No, quite the opposite. We console ourselves with reassurances that these people are in the
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minority and they are, but they run everything and they get exactly what they want every single
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time. And it's not so reassuring when you look at it like that. So I hope you can see by now.
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And if you listen to the show, you must see it because I'm hammering on the point all the time,
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but I hope you can see that this stuff is not just about gender or sexuality. It's certainly not
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about Dave Chappelle. What we're living through is a giant social experiment. It's the biggest social
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experiment in world history. And what the experimenters are trying to find out is this.
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Can a vocal and powerful minority alter the majority's perception of reality, not simply
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influence their opinions or convince them to adopt a new position, but fundamentally change their very
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perception of reality itself. Primarily by screaming, threatening, and cajoling them.
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Can the human instinct for self-preservation, the natural desire to avoid confrontation,
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can these be exploited to such an extent that millions or billions of people can be made to not
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only tacitly tolerate a bizarre idea, but to actually over time, believe it themselves.
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You know, if they, in the minority, act like a statement of basic truth is wildly offensive,
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dangerous, harmful, it's going to get people killed. If they do that, and they do it often
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enough, can they not only convince millions of people to keep quiet, but eventually can they
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convince those timid masses to really believe that the truth is offensive and that it being
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offensive makes it somehow not actually true? That's the experiment we're all living through
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right now. Those are the questions that the social engineers are trying to answer. And so far,
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sad to say, the answer for many people has been yes. Now let's get to our five headlines.
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You know, guys, I really hate being proved right. That's one of the themes of this show. I'm proved
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right so often, but I wish it wasn't this way. I don't want to be right about the things that I say.
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I just am. And that happened again this week when I discussed a few days ago, you know, the issue of
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pilots on planes who give their passengers too much information. Remember, I said, you know, you don't need
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to tell us what's going on up there. Just get us from point A to point B. None of the people on the
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plane, none of the passengers, we don't know how it works. Any additional information you give us
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because we lack the base of knowledge to process and understand that information is just going to
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add to our anxiety and our fear. So as if to prove me right, as if to illustrate my point, we were at
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the airport yesterday in Grand Rapids getting ready to leave and head home. But today, as you can see,
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we're still in a hotel. We're still here in Grand Rapids. And that's because the plane broke.
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Unfortunately, it broke before we boarded it. And we couldn't get another flight that night because
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apparently Grand Rapids is in the middle of the Amazon rainforest. And there's one flight coming and
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leaving per month or something. So we had to cancel the flight entirely. We had to rebook on another
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airline for today. And by the way, the only direct flight that we could find was on an airline called
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Allegiant, which I don't even think I'd ever heard of before yesterday. And so we'll be boarding that
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flight today. And I made the mistake of looking up Allegiant safety record this morning. And it's
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not great is all I can say. It's just, it's not good. Allegiant is a budget airline below spirit.
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Okay. Allegiant planes, they don't even have wings. They actually just roll down the windows and they
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have their passenger, the passengers stick their arms out and flap up and down. You know,
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it's like the modern version of the Roman galley ship. Flight attendants walk up and down the aisle
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with whips. Flap faster. Flap. Anyway, that's all beside the point. The point is that while we were
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at the gate, before we rebooked, the gate agent on the intercom, got on the intercom and said this,
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and this is a direct quote. I swear to you, this is what he said. He said, sorry for the delay,
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ladies and gentlemen, we're having mechanical issues with the plane. They're going to shut the plane off
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and turn it back on and hope the issue disappears. That is exactly what he said.
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As if the plane runs on windows 98, he might as well have said that, you know,
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they're going to hit control alt delete and just see what happens. Turn it off and back on again.
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Maybe next pull out the cartridge and blow on it. I don't know. How is that the solution? That's the
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way I fix all technical issues, but I'm a moron. That can't actually be the way the world works.
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That can't be what commercial airline pilots do. You're telling me that they're just as confused
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and mystified as the rest of us. They're looking at the problem and going, I got nothing. I don't
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know. Just turn it off. Turn it on again. We'll see. These planes are up in the air and parent,
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apparently nobody knows they're up in the air and no one knows how they got there or what they're
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doing. That's, that's the way I'm interpreting this. No one has any idea what's going on.
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Hope the issue disappears. Wouldn't you want to know where the issue went?
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And if it's likely to return, is that what the pilots are doing up in that mysterious little
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room? The co-pilot says to the pilot, Hey, you know, there's a, there's a blinking red light here
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with a skull and crossbones and it's saying danger, danger. What should we do about it?
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Yeah. I don't know. Turn it off back on again. Sure. It'll be fine. My God, we're doomed. We are
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doomed. Nope. No one. That's, that's the lesson kids. You have to understand this. This is a,
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this is a, one of the realities of life that you realize as an adult and you're horrified when you
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realize it, but no one has any idea what they're doing anywhere with anything. Everyone is clueless
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and we're just walking around blind and that is life. All right. So speaking of clueless,
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the state department has an important message for the people of the earth. And here's the message
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they tweeted out yesterday. It says today on international pronouns day, we share why many
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people list pronouns on their email and social media profiles, read more here. And then if
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you click and it goes to share.america.gov. So this is a government website shared by the
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state department. And there's a whole article about, about pronouns. It says, I'll read some
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of it. It says in the United States, it's becoming increasingly common for people to share their
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pronouns. Third person, personal pronouns are used to describe a person or people in English,
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American grammar as the subject, as the object, or the possessive. These pronouns include the
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gender neutral, they, them, theirs, words that traditionally refer to a plural number, but that
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today are used by some individuals who identify as gender non-binary or who prefer not to share
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gender information. Other pronouns include the feminine, she, her, hers, and the masculine, he, him,
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his. Some people are pioneering gender neutral pronouns, such as z, z, z, zers.
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This is a government website. This is a government website. This is the state department
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putting z, z, zers, zers out into the world, officially endorsing it.
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And then, I don't need to keep reading this. I can't keep reading it. I'll have, I'll, my, I'll have an
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aneurysm if I do. I have to tell you, when I, when I, when I encounter this kind of, this kind of
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thing, of course, my first reaction is just sheer embarrassment that this is the U.S. State Department
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ostensibly supposed to represent us, represent the United States of America, and this is what
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they're exporting out into the world. And this is what, this is, this is, this is a, an intentional
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act. I mean, this goes beyond merely pandering to the left.
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This is the religion that our government right now is exporting into the world. This is the ideology.
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It's a religion of self-creation, of self-worship, a religion that rejects truth as a category,
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rejects truth as a category, not just has a different idea about truth or has a different
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idea about what is true and what isn't, but rejects it as a tragic, as a category. There
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is no truth. What is truth? As Pontius Pilate said, say, in a way is the Pontius Pilate religion.
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Now, what is truth? The truth is whatever you make it, whatever you decide that it is.
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And this is what the United States of America, this is what they want the United States of
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America to represent on earth. We used to talk about how we wanted the U.S. to represent
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freedom to all the peoples of the earth. Perhaps we should have been more specific because now
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we represent freedom from reality, freedom from truth, freedom from moral decency.
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Freedom from even biological realities, biological science. Freedom from our own bodies.
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That's what we represent. But when I see this, along with feeling embarrassed,
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I also can't help but every time it makes me mad and angry at the right. I mean, yeah, at the left,
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but it's fruitless, it's pointless, it's redundant at this point to be angry at the left. Of course,
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I am, but even more so at the right. Because maybe ultimately there was nothing we could have done
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about this, about this slide into madness. Even if we had all been on the ball about it from the
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beginning, it may have still ended up this way. I don't know. But the fact is that so many people on
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the right for years were just whistling past the graveyard with this stuff. And they would say about
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the pronoun issue, oh, who cares about that? Just call people what they want. Why are you so focused
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on this? Why are you talking about it? This is a small issue. This is a side show. This is a
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distraction. For years and years, that's what I heard. I don't hear it anymore. I mean, I've been
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on these issues, as you know, from day one. And for years, the criticism I would get from people on
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the right is these issues don't matter. It doesn't make a difference. This is superficial.
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This is a phase. It'll go away. Why are you paying attention to it? Just don't pay attention to it,
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and it'll go away. Right? Like Jurassic Park with the T-Rex. Don't move. Its vision is based on
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movement. Stand there still, and it will walk past you. For years, that's what I heard. And I don't
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hear it anymore. Because even the dumbest, most clueless, most oblivious, muddled-brained people
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on the right, even they, even the ones in that category are starting to see that, oh, wow,
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this is a big deal. This is a war on truth. I mean, we are marching into total lunacy and madness.
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And there is no end in sight. And it, oh, it actually matters. Who would have thought?
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Like, if this is your wake-up call that the State Department
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is celebrating International Pronouns Day and talking about Z-Zim-Zers,
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you know, if you thought this was a phase and it would just go away, it's a silly childhood thing,
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you know, and now the State Department is promoting it. And if this is your wake-up call,
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silenced by many major platforms, former President Donald Trump is launching his own social media app,
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Trump Media and Technology Group and Digital World Acquisition Group, which is already listed
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on the NASDAQ, have entered into a merger to form a new company, chaired by the former president,
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according to a press release. Trump says the group will form a rival to the Liberal Media Consortium,
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in which its first step will be launching a new social media platform called Truth Social.
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And truth is all in caps. I'm not sure if that's supposed to be an acronym or something, but
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a better version will be available to invited guests in November, according to a release.
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Trump said in a statement, we live in a world where the Taliban has a huge presence on Twitter,
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yet your favorite American president has been silenced. According to the release,
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the company was formed using a special purpose acquisition company, yada, yada, yada, et cetera.
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So Truth Social is going to be the, going to be the platform and it'll join, you know,
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Parler and Gab and some of the other alternative social media platforms founded by people on the right.
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Now, I don't know if it'll be successful or not. I hope it is, right? I think it would be great to
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have competition for Twitter and Facebook and Instagram and to have a platform where, you know,
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there actually is free speech and it's not controlled by ideologues on the left and all of that kind of
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stuff. I mean, I think it'll be great. So I would root for it, but I'm very skeptical
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about Trump's social media platform. I'm skeptical of all the right wing, you know, social media
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platforms. And there are three reasons. One is that so far, you know, most of these alternative
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platforms, there's no innovation. Like there's nothing really interesting happening, technically
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speaking, with the sites and you go to it and the sites look like, and they feel like
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knockoffs. This is the problem that on the right, we've had in many areas of the culture
00:25:21.800
where we're trying to come up with responses to what they're doing on the left, but we end
00:25:26.160
up just imitating what they're doing on the left.
00:25:29.060
And then the result is something that's, it's just, it's not as interesting. It's not as cool
00:25:36.660
to the average user or someone in the audience. I mean, look at, this has been the fatal flaw
00:25:44.480
of Christian rock music since its inception. That there really isn't any innovation going
00:25:51.120
on. It's just, let's try to sound like that kind of music over there. We're going to base
00:25:55.940
our whole style and everything off of that. We're going to be the, you know, we're going
00:25:59.960
to be the Christian version of that. And so in these right-wing media platforms, social
00:26:04.760
media platforms, I guess they go into it saying, let's be the right-wing version of Twitter.
00:26:10.880
And you do that, you're already doomed because you're not going to be a better Twitter than
00:26:14.880
Twitter. Twitter has been doing this for over a decade. They've got billions and billions
00:26:20.580
of dollars. They've been extremely successful. You're not going to be a better Twitter than
00:26:23.940
Twitter. You have to do something completely different. And usually that's not the way
00:26:28.820
it goes. And so it's not a success. The other problem is that, you know, echo chambers are
00:26:34.280
boring. I've used some of these platforms and it's kind of like, I'm there, everybody agrees
00:26:39.320
with me. And it's kind of like, I, I guess it's, it's nice to be around people that you agree
00:26:45.580
with, but especially someone like me, I like to mix it up a little bit. I like to know that
00:26:50.720
I'm going to say something and people who don't agree with me are going to see it.
00:26:54.980
And you, you take that element out of it and it's not nearly as fun. And then, but then
00:26:58.360
the third, here's the big thing. This is the big and most important thing. And this is why
00:27:03.960
I say to conservatives say, Oh, I'm done with Twitter. I'm done with Facebook. I'm, I'm,
00:27:07.060
I'm, I'm done. I'm logging off. And then they, they ask me why, why haven't you, why are you
00:27:12.940
still using it? Well, because I can use Twitter to try and drive the conversation and to, and
00:27:24.680
to bring attention to issues and to ideas and to things that the media does wants to bury.
00:27:32.020
So that that's a function of Twitter. And I've used it that way successfully. Many times,
00:27:38.260
many people on the right half to drive the conversation, to bring things to the forefront
00:27:43.340
that would not be at the forefront. Look at what's happening with school boards across the country
00:27:47.880
right now. You think that this would be happening without, without the, the, the unwitting help of
00:27:54.640
Twitter and Facebook? No, it wouldn't be. Do you think we could have organized a movement like that
00:28:01.000
on, um, you know, parlor or, or one of these right-wing social media platforms? No,
00:28:06.440
because you're, you're only, you're with your own people. It doesn't have,
00:28:12.520
doesn't have the same cultural purchase. It's very insular. And so you can do that. You can
00:28:19.160
actually have talk about social media influencers. You can actually have influence by using these
00:28:24.600
platforms, um, and driving cultural conversations. And that just doesn't, you know, there are no
00:28:30.180
influencers on these other right-wing platforms. There isn't, I mean, there, there are influencers who
00:28:35.860
are influencers on, on the major platforms and then they go over there, but those platforms
00:28:42.080
haven't, um, haven't birthed their own influencers. So that's a problem. It doesn't mean that we
00:28:49.200
shouldn't try, but I think it's important to have those issues in mind and try to address those
00:28:54.920
problems with whatever platform you're trying to develop. All right. So let's go, where else are we
00:29:00.900
going? Okay. This is great. Um, the WNBA team, Chicago Sky won the WNBA championship a few days
00:29:08.240
ago. Now, normally this is where you might expect that I'm going to make a bunch of jokes
00:29:14.860
about how nobody watches the WNBA and how, you know, I didn't even know that the championship
00:29:20.560
happened or even that the WNBA had championships at all. I figured they probably didn't keep score,
00:29:26.080
you know, but, um, I'm not saying that I'm not going to joke about that. And I'm not going to
00:29:30.980
make any comments about the Chicago sky and how it sounds like a brand of girly $11 wine that they
00:29:35.380
serve at baby showers. I'm not going to make any comments like that. You know, I'm not going to
00:29:40.400
talk about how the dunk contest at the WNBA all-star game is more like horseshoes where they score
00:29:46.660
based on who gets the closest. Um, I'm not doing that. Those are jokes I'm not making because I'm not
00:29:53.220
a rude person and I'm not a sexist and they play their hearts out. And before you claim that nobody
00:30:00.640
goes to the games, consider the fact that most of these players have parents and they have aunts and
00:30:04.300
uncles and I'm sure their families are supportive and they come to these games. Okay. And that really
00:30:09.300
adds up. So anyway, all that to lead into this, uh, let's play this. This is a footage of the Chicago
00:30:16.660
cloud victory parade. I saw this footage yesterday and I really felt it's, it's the saddest thing I've ever
00:30:22.440
seen. Imagine throwing a parade in the middle of downtown Chicago and nobody shows up. You thought
00:30:31.140
that, that Joe Biden rallies were the saddest thing, but this somehow tops even that. I think
00:30:36.480
Joe Biden could have, could have a parade. He could throw a parade and he would probably get a better
00:30:39.960
turnout, but this is, I'm not making fun of it. This is not me making fun of it. I I'm, this is me
00:30:45.300
expressing sympathy. I mean, they, this is so sad. They should build a monument in the middle of Chicago
00:30:50.560
to this parade where future generations can come and weep and wail before it. It is, it's
00:30:57.220
a tragedy. We will all remember the day, October 20th, 2021. Where were you when the Chicago sky
00:31:05.480
victory parade took place and nobody came? Uh, poor, poor ladies, but you know, you see that
00:31:13.500
kind of turnout, they have a championship. No one even knows the championship happened, but
00:31:18.540
WNBA players, they should be paid the same as, uh, as, as NBA players. They should, they should get
00:31:24.680
the same, right? They get, they get 15 people to their games. They got two people at the parade.
00:31:32.800
Both just happened to be walking their dogs and they stopped and looked at it and they should be
00:31:37.520
paid exactly the same as NBA players. Keep that in mind because that, that is a, that's what equity
00:31:41.480
and inclusion is all about. All right. Let's, uh, so I wanted to play, I wanted to not play,
00:31:47.700
but I want to show you this as well. This is from Christopher Lamb. He's a Rome correspondent for,
00:31:53.180
uh, media outlet called the tablet, uh, reporting on, uh, a sermon or a speech delivered by Pope Francis
00:32:01.180
and Pope Francis is, was, uh, giving some, some credit, some props to the George Floyd,
00:32:07.020
the BLM protesters, always very topical and on the ball is Pope Francis. And so he's chiming in on
00:32:13.740
this, you know, two years later. And he says of the BLM movement in response to George Floyd,
00:32:20.680
where there was rioting and violence all across the country, terrorizing cities for six months.
00:32:26.880
He says, this movement did not pass by on the other side of the road when it saw the injury to
00:32:33.000
human dignity caused by an abuse of power. Yes. The BLM movement is concerned with the, uh, with
00:32:41.780
protecting the dignity of the human person. That's right. Pope Francis. And that's what they,
00:32:49.320
that's really what they were standing for. I think is, is human dignity.
00:32:54.720
That's why you, you know, run into a CVS and steal everything you can run out with an armful of
00:32:59.920
merchandise and burn the place down on your way out. That's, that's your way of saying
00:33:03.600
that human dignity and human life is very important.
00:33:08.700
I really think this Pope's pontificate has been, it's been good and useful
00:33:12.900
in one sense, only in how it's served to sort of symbolize and encapsulate, um, all of the problems
00:33:21.760
with the church in modern times. It kind of, it all can be boiled down to this. Not that Pope Francis
00:33:27.540
is causing all of those problems because these problems, um, predate him.
00:33:34.040
And in many ways he is a, well, he is certainly more a symptom of, of the problems than a cause of
00:33:39.620
them, but he does, he does kind of symbolize that it's everything that's wrong with the church
00:33:45.060
in, in, in the West in modern times with church leadership, hopelessly out of touch,
00:33:52.940
uh, afraid to take real moral stands on issues that matter.
00:34:02.820
Not at all in, in connection with, you know, the lives of real human beings, the people that
00:34:10.620
come and sit in the pews, not concerned about, not, not, not aware of, of, of the issues that
00:34:17.000
these people are dealing with every single day. Now, this is not the case in, in, in every
00:34:23.740
church, but in a great many of them, you know, I've had this experience many times attending
00:34:30.860
churches all across the country, you know, in many of the States I've visited. And oftentimes
00:34:36.400
you go into those churches and you sit down in the pews and, um, it, it, it should be, it
00:34:43.880
should for, for one thing, be a respite from all of the madness out in the culture, because
00:34:48.820
you're coming in there after a week, another week spent in this decaying, uh, culture,
00:34:57.540
another week spent as a parent trying to shield your, your kids from the corruption and the
00:35:03.320
perversion, um, that, that threatens them and threatens their innocence. And you come in
00:35:08.900
kind of battered and broken and you sit down in the pew and it should be for one, a respite
00:35:14.400
and a rest from all of that. And it should be inspiring and motivating, um, preparing
00:35:24.600
you to, to go back to battle because that's what it is as Christians in the culture. We
00:35:28.740
are, we are in, in a state of constant spiritual battle and that's not new. I mean, that's, that
00:35:35.740
has always been the case. We've, we've known that you read it in the gospels. This is what
00:35:38.700
we're promised is, is that we will be, um, in, in a battle until, until the end times
00:35:43.720
when the battle is finally won and over. And that's the good thing is that we've, we've
00:35:47.640
read the last page of the book. We know how the story ends, but in the meantime, um, it's,
00:35:52.340
it is going to be a real, a real battle. Um, but that battle has, has, has taken an, you
00:36:00.340
know, an extra profound, I think, uh, toll on us in recent times and we're losing the
00:36:05.580
battle culturally. So we're sort of the guerrilla warriors. Now we're not on the most powerful
00:36:11.240
side. Uh, we don't have all of these levers of power. So we're more, this has become a
00:36:16.400
kind of spiritual guerrilla warfare. And the point is in, in that environment, given what
00:36:22.320
we're dealing with, you go into church and you want to hear the priest or the pastor get
00:36:27.380
up there and you want to know that he understands that that's the environment you are in as the
00:36:34.600
faithful. And you want to hear something that speaks to that and that it's useful and that
00:36:40.100
will equip you spiritually for the next week of battles. And very often you don't hear any
00:36:46.740
of that. You hear something that sounds like, you know, at best, it sounds like a seminar
00:36:56.880
on teamwork that you might hear from an HR representative at your work or, or you, you
00:37:04.100
hear more of the madness and lunacy that you already got in the culture. It's not the case
00:37:09.980
everywhere. There are churches where there's that are certainly an exception, but unfortunately
00:37:13.100
they are an exception. Okay. Finally. So Katie Couric has, uh, she's been out, out of the spotlight
00:37:18.720
for, for a while. Uh, but apparently she's still alive and kicking, which is good. And she's
00:37:23.880
got a book coming out and it's, I guess it's a tell all memoir where she throws all of her
00:37:28.600
former colleagues under the bus, which is always a fun time. And she was, uh, giving a, she was,
00:37:33.480
she was doing an interview on NBC or ABC or whatever it was. And I thought it was interesting
00:37:38.720
that first she talks about sexism in the news industry and how she, she encountered a lot
00:37:43.360
of sexism and how, how sexism oppresses and suppresses women. And you know, it deprives them
00:37:49.600
of opportunities and everything. So you knew that there was going to be that claim. But
00:37:53.940
then at another point in this interview, and I guess in the book as well, she talks about
00:37:59.040
her own, as a woman, her own relationship with her female colleagues and, um, how, how,
00:38:05.480
how far she went to help them. And, uh, apparently not very far at all. Listen to this.
00:38:11.080
Well, let's talk about that because you talked openly about female mentorship. You said you were,
00:38:17.220
you had your own insecurities, you know, you felt like you had to protect your turf.
00:38:21.680
Those were your words. Yeah. Are you, I mean, do you regret that now? I mean,
00:38:25.860
what's your perspective on it now? You said, um, I was less welcoming when charismatic female
00:38:31.180
correspondents entered my spear. There were only a few coveted spots for women. I felt like I had
00:38:35.560
to protect my turf. Yeah. I mean, I think that's brutally honest, you know, I think that I have
00:38:40.560
mentored scores of women, um, many of who still work on this show and in the control room.
00:38:46.420
Hi ladies. But, um, you know, I think that when there are very few jobs for women and men are
00:38:53.840
making decisions, not necessarily based on, you know, the right criteria that sometimes you do get
00:39:01.680
insecure and sometimes you do get territorial. I think it's human nature. I think anyone in a
00:39:06.860
high profile position, uh, in a coveted spot. And I think even outside the TV industry, both women
00:39:13.320
and men have felt that occasionally, I just was honest enough to admit it. I think.
00:39:18.740
And to be clear, did you ever actively try to sabotage another female on-air correspondent?
00:39:24.180
Never, never, never. I think I just wish that maybe I had extended myself more and shown people
00:39:29.540
the rope, but ropes a little bit more. But I think when people are outwardly kind of vying for your job,
00:39:36.000
it is hard to be generous. I think. I love that. She, she says in the book that, well,
00:39:41.800
you know, I didn't really want to help out charismatic and talented females. I felt threatened
00:39:46.640
by them, but I did mentor a lot of other women, like the ones in the control room. Hi ladies.
00:39:53.120
Of course saying that, well, they're not charismatic and talented, so they didn't threaten me at all.
00:39:56.980
Um, but this is, of course she tries to disperse the blame out to, and you always love when people
00:40:04.580
do this, they say, well, yeah, I did this, but everyone does this. No, not everyone. There are
00:40:09.880
people who are, who are perfectly willing to mentor others and don't feel threatened by everybody else
00:40:13.640
in their industry. That's kind of a you thing, but it, it does show this, um, reality that, that does
00:40:21.220
go beyond Katie Couric, but that doesn't often enter the conversation when we talk about the
00:40:27.520
resistance, allegedly that women face in the corporate world or in media or whatever industry.
00:40:33.420
And we're told that, um, they don't get the same opportunities and that they, you know,
00:40:36.720
they have this, this extra, these extra roadblocks that are thrown in front of them.
00:40:40.340
And that is always attributed to sexism as Katie Couric does in the book and earlier in the interview.
00:40:44.740
But then she says that she herself as a woman felt threatened by other women and didn't want to help them out.
00:40:51.220
Which you, in honest moments, you hear from women a lot that oftentimes the most resistance
00:41:01.800
and the most hostility that they experience at work is from other women, not from men.
00:41:08.920
But Katie Couric wants to have it both ways. And she said, yeah, it's sexism, but at the same time,
00:41:15.980
yeah, what it's a, it's a sexist industry. And so I, I guess I made my way to the top and, uh,
00:41:21.220
I don't want to help anyone else get there. There are only a few spots. That's the way she
00:41:25.300
rationalizes it. But I think the truth is pretty obvious. Okay. Let's now read the comments.
00:41:30.060
Never gets old. Those sweet, sweet sounds of the Sweet Baby Gang anthem. It never gets old. Not to me anyway.
00:41:51.320
Gareth says, with Matt traveling so much, I'm extra careful to return my cart just in case he's lurking
00:41:57.580
in the parking lot somewhere. And that's good. That's fear. That's what I want you to feel.
00:42:01.800
I want you to feel like there's a, there is an eye watching over you, an ever watchful eye watching,
00:42:08.140
especially when you're in the parking lot. And you know something there is, even if it's not me,
00:42:13.240
God is watching. He sees every single shopping cart you've ever left in the parking lot.
00:42:20.940
And you will answer for that in this life or the next. So help me God. Uh, Daniel Pack says,
00:42:28.820
Matt, Morning Wire is the only podcast that values your time and the truth. Me, but I'm listening to
00:42:34.480
your podcast right now. Well, yeah, but as, as we've established in many of the ads we do on the show,
00:42:39.040
you shouldn't be listening to this podcast. There are better podcasts. The Morning Wire values your
00:42:43.420
time and the truth. I don't value, I value the truth, but I don't value your time. So I don't,
00:42:47.440
I don't have both. I do care about the truth, but your time is not important to me, which is why I'll
00:42:51.580
ramble on, you know, about shopping carts or, uh, about urinals for, for 17 minutes. Uh, so there
00:42:57.700
are better podcasts than you could, the Jordan, um, the Jordan, the, uh, the Jordan show, my guy,
00:43:03.260
Jordan, another, another great show that you could listen to. Be Cozy says,
00:43:08.320
I can't believe Matt's talking about ZOCs, zookeepers of color, but ignoring the larger
00:43:14.080
marginalized BISOC community. I guess that'd be black indigenous zookeepers of color. Uh, yeah,
00:43:21.960
I guess I should have mentioned them as well. Um, and when you say that, I realized that
00:43:26.980
both BIPOC and BISOC sound like maybe an antidepressant or a Star Trek character, one or the other.
00:43:37.480
Um, Pet Uspy says, hair's looking a little rowdy today, Matt. That hotel life is rough,
00:43:46.000
I guess. First of all, stop body shaming. Second of all, um, this is one of the sacrifices I have
00:43:52.280
to make. It's one of the trials and tribulations that I face is that I don't, uh, they don't send
00:43:57.520
a stylist and a makeup artist with me. And so I got to make do, I got to rough it much. You know,
00:44:01.600
I really feel connected in, in, when I'm traveling to the pioneers on the Oregon trail. Um, uh, the,
00:44:08.400
the pioneers, you know, for, forging West, uh, having nothing but their clothes on their back
00:44:14.420
and whatever they could fit into their wagons. And I, I feel, I, I feel connected to that because
00:44:18.260
I have to travel with no makeup artist, no stylist.
00:44:27.520
It's tough, but I get through it. Um, another comment says, I actually do enjoy the food at
00:44:32.980
Hooters. I know I sound like the guy who said, the guys who say they read Playboy for the articles,
00:44:37.400
but the wings at Hooters are above average, certainly better than Applebee's or Chili's. Well,
00:44:41.820
you know that I'm not a hater of Applebee's or Chili's. I've said that before. I think, um,
00:44:47.720
it's a solid option. You know what you're going to get. I don't have this, this elitist mentality
00:44:52.440
about chain restaurants. However, still, as far as the wings go, saying Hooters has better wings
00:45:00.000
than Applebee's or Chili's. That's like saying, it's like walking into somebody's apartment and
00:45:03.280
saying, oh, wow, this is way nicer than living in a tent made out of trash bags under a bridge.
00:45:07.920
Um, Daniel says, Matt doesn't realize he's a celebrity. Now, if I saw him in a bathroom,
00:45:14.400
I'd totally say hi and ask for an autograph. Obviously not before he washed his hands. And
00:45:18.640
then I would, um, sue you for sexual harassment because that is sexual harassment. And that,
00:45:22.720
that I think is where we need to go with this conversation as it evolves. That, um, speaking
00:45:28.180
to another man in a restroom is a form of, I, I think it's a form of sexual harassment. And, uh,
00:45:36.060
at least that is how I'm going to interpret it right now from now on, which really makes it
00:45:42.820
much weirder and more awkward. Uh, Mike says, Matt's missing a trick. The only thing to do with
00:45:48.680
a commercial flight is to sleep through the whole horrible experience. Can't imagine anything more
00:45:52.980
certain to snooze-ify than an airline info pack. Challenge yourself to get past page three awake.
00:45:59.460
Um, yeah, I can't sleep on planes. I don't understand the people that do that. I can't sleep
00:46:04.740
in airports. I can't, I, you see people in airports that are sprawled out on the ground.
00:46:12.380
I mean, I was in air at this national airport the other day on our way here before we got stuck and
00:46:17.580
stranded here. There were people, there weren't a lot of seats in the national airport. It's kind
00:46:22.100
of cramped there and not the greatest airport. I have to say I like Nashville, but the airport could
00:46:25.100
do some work. And there are people sprawled out just on the ground in the hallway sleeping. And
00:46:31.000
you, you're going to, you are going to allow yourself to sink into unconsciousness around
00:46:38.700
hordes of strangers, people you don't know. And you're going to have, have your body laying there
00:46:47.660
unconscious. I can't, I can't do that. That, that, that requires a certain amount of trust
00:46:53.320
in, in other people who you don't know that I just don't have.
00:46:58.760
And finally, John says the one time I was sitting in the exit row in a plane, I actually read the
00:47:02.380
info just out of curiosity about what it was. Matt's being self-conscious. Come on, man, grow a pair
00:47:06.980
and stop worrying about people's opinions like a little girl. I, I think, I think it's the other
00:47:11.640
way around as men. We, you know, this is, this is a stereotype, but it's true. We don't, we don't
00:47:16.540
read directions. We don't ask for directions. I mean, that part's, we have GPS now, so we don't have
00:47:21.680
shame about asking GPS for directions. But as far as read, like reading instructions or assembling
00:47:26.900
something, you get something from Ikea, we, you know, we always say, well, we could just do it
00:47:30.520
ourselves. So that's, that's the way I look at it with the exit row. I don't know what I'm supposed
00:47:34.720
to do, but if the plane goes down, first of all, we're all probably going to die anyway. So it will
00:47:39.660
be a non-issue, but if somehow we do survive, I'll figure it out when we're in the moment and then
00:47:45.960
we'll all die because of that, because I'm unprepared. So that's, that's the way a true man
00:47:49.480
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Some of you will not like the daily cancellation today. It's okay if you don't like it.
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You're banned from the show, of course, if you refuse to applaud everything that I do and say,
00:49:48.900
but we can part ways on amicable terms, even so. And the reason you might not like it is that today
00:49:54.640
is going to be another case of friendly fire. I have to criticize someone who is ostensibly on my side,
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and there are those on my side who don't approve of criticism, which is pointed back in this
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direction. They say that we should all be on the same team and we should focus our critical energy
00:50:08.720
outward, not inward. But anybody who's ever actually been on a team knows that some of the
00:50:13.500
harshest and most useful criticism you'll receive is from your teammates. After all, they're the ones
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who want you to improve. They have a stake in your improvement. That's the way teams work. A team which
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refuses to engage in self-criticism is a team that loses. And so I say all of that talking about teams.
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But the subject of my criticism today is a politician. And I hesitate really to say that
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any politician is on my team. At least I won't trust that any politician is a real teammate until
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they've proven it. And after they've proven it, they have to continue to prove it and prove it some
00:50:44.900
more every day. A politician has to earn my trust. And even after they've earned it, I still don't trust
00:50:50.440
them. So with all that in mind, we turn to Michelle Fiore. She's a Republican candidate for governor in
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Nevada. Now, I don't know anything about Michelle Fiore. She might make a tremendous governor or she
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might not. I don't know. All I know is what I learned in the ad that I'm about to play. I certainly
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agree with the positions she lays out in the ad. I like the positions. I hate everything else about
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I'm Michelle Fiore, and I'm running for governor. I spent my whole life fighting the establishment.
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I was the first female majority leader in Nevada Assembly and one of the first electeds to endorse
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Donald J. Trump. And you better believe I was attacked for it. Washington Post called me a
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gun-toting calendar girl. And Politico Magazine said that I was the Lady Trump, and I don't care.
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We need outsiders, fighters, not the same old boring, moderate, compromised, blue blazer politicians.
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Let's start with a three-shot plan. Ban vaccine mandates, ban critical race theory, and stop voter
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fraud. The Joe Biden administration is coming after me. I'm Michelle Fiore, and I'm ready for the fight.
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Now, admittedly, it does seem that she keeps abreast of the issues. But aside from that, I mean,
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this is everything I hate about GOP political ads. It's like a greatest hits of Republican cringe.
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She pulls up with a pickup truck with a Trump 2024 sticker on the back. In fact, she mentions Trump
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three times in a one-minute ad, as if her positive feelings about Donald Trump are her primary
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qualification for the governorship. And then we got the generic twangy guitar riff in the background,
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and she struts through the desert in an extremely impractical red dress and leather jacket
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combination with the gun strapped to her hip. She hits all the talking points that are about as
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generic as the guitar riff. Did you know she's an outsider and a fighter and not the same old
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politician? Fascinating. A truly groundbreaking claim. I mean, this is the first time I've ever
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heard something like that in a political ad. I should also mention that I've been frozen in a
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cryogenic vault since 1732. Maybe that's why I've never heard it. Michelle then pulls out, you know,
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the sidearm and shoots some beer bottles. Though noticeably, we don't actually see her hitting the
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bottles. The camera cuts away right before the trigger press. And at the end, her name comes up
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on the screen in flaming letters in a style that makes you think her last name is Fieri, not Fiori.
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The idea behind an ad like this, of course, is that it's supposed to make us right-wingers feel
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like she's one of us. She gets us. She's down with the cause. But instead, it just feels lame as hell.
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The very epitome of trying too hard. And the ultimate effect is the opposite of what's intended.
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Rather than feeling like she's one of us, it feels more like she's an outsider.
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You know, not in the way she wants us to think she's an outsider. And it's trying to sort of ape
00:53:53.320
our style and speech and mannerisms. It feels like she went to Party City and picked up an average
00:53:58.700
Joe or Jane conservative costume. Really, it feels exactly as it is. Like she paid a lot of money to
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some PR firm so that someone who's never held a gun or been inside a pickup truck could tell her how
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to connect with people who do live that way based on surveys and other data points.
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Truly, I can't think of anything less authentic than a political ad that looks and sounds like a
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truck commercial. Watching it, I half expected her to tell us that she got the highest customer
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satisfaction award from J.D. Power & Associates. That's how contrived it all seemed.
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From the ad, I don't know who the real Michelle Fiore is. All I see is some corny Frankenstein
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constructed by a focus group. Nothing real here. You might as well cut out all the superfluous stuff
00:54:41.580
and just stand in front of the camera shouting, guns, trucks, freedom, Trump, explosions, Trump,
00:54:46.540
fire, Trump, guitar. That's all the ad contains anyway. The rest is just connective tissue meant
00:54:52.300
to hold all the pandering and bumper sticker sloganeering together. It's cheesy is what I'm
00:54:57.260
trying to say. And it's fake and it's hollow. And worst of all, it's patronizing. This is the kind of
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ad that I would make if I was running for political office and if I believe that my voting base was
00:55:07.300
comprised of shallow, dimwitted, easily impressed morons. All gimmick, no substance. Now granted,
00:55:14.620
one can only expect so much from a political advertisement. But the problem is that the all
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gimmick, no substance thing, that's all we've ever gotten from the GOP as a whole for 30 years.
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The ad is supposed to make me think that Michelle is different from your average Republican politician,
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but instead it puts her right in line with all the rest of them. Because this is what they all do.
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This is what they all give us. If you want to impress me, present something that makes me think
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you're something more than a pandering puppet who thinks folksiness is an acceptable substitute for
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authenticity. All of this, and we haven't even mentioned the worst infraction, the beer bottles
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she shot or someone shot were still full of beer. At least drink the beer before you destroy the
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bottles. For God's sake, have some respect. That alone is enough reason, though there are plenty
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more, to say to Michelle Fiore, unfortunately, you are canceled. And we'll leave it there for today.
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Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Have a great day. Godspeed.
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