Ep. 867 - Why Multiple Personality Syndrome Is The Hottest New Fad
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The hottest new trend on social media right now is "Multiple Personality Disorder." Lots of people, especially kids, are pretending that they suffer from this debilitating mental illness. How did this trend come about and why? Also, Aaron Rodgers has clearly earned the MVP title this year in the NFL. But some sports writers say that he shouldn t be eligible because he s not vaccinated. Plus, Pope Francis condemns couples who have pets instead of kids. And women at the University of Pennsylvania consider boycotting in protest of the dude who was allowed to play on the swim team. Finally, in our daily cancellation, I will once and for all and finally cancel superhero movies.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, throwback edition, the hottest new trend on social media right now
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is multiple personality disorder. Lots of people, especially kids, are pretending that they suffer
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from this debilitating mental illness. How did this trend come about and why? We'll talk about
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that today. Also, Aaron Rodgers has clearly earned the MVP title this year in the NFL,
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but some sports writers say that he shouldn't be eligible because he's not vaccinated.
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Plus, Pope Francis condemns couples who have pets instead of kids, proving again that even a broken
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pope is right every once in a while. And women at the University of Pennsylvania consider boycotting
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in protest of the dude who was allowed to play on the swim team. They consider it. They consider
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boycotting. Just consider it. Finally, in our daily cancellation, I will once and for all and finally
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cancel superhero movies. All of them. They're all canceled. We'll do that today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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Well, welcome to the show today. We're just at the beginning of what's supposed to be a major
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winter storm here in Nashville. And by major winter storm, I mean like, you know, four or five inches
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or something. But four or five inches counts as a major storm around these parts, especially because
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of the apocalyptic panic that grips hold of everybody on the roadways as soon as one single
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flake falls from the sky. The flake doesn't even have to fall from the sky, actually. I mean,
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the drivers around here, if they see a flake of dandruff fall from their own heads while they're
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driving, they'll still freak out and plunge right into the nearest ditch. What all that means is that
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I can't get on the roads right now because I value my life. And so instead of going to my normal studio,
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I am back in my original studio. I'm getting in touch with my roots today, back in the car,
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talking to my dashboard once again, thoroughly confusing my neighbor who just walked out of his
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house and was obviously confused about what's happening here. Now, I could have recorded in my
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house, which I'm sitting right next to right now in the driveway. But the problem is that all four of
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my kids are home right now. And the only way to keep them quiet for an hour would be to,
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I don't know, lock them in some sort of soundproof box in the attic. But CPS generally frowns upon that
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kind of parenting strategy. And so this is what we're doing. Also, it just felt right. It feels
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right to be here again in the car. So we start with this. If a lab in China has proven to be a
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factory for viral contagions in the world, then the internet, social media in particular, and especially
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TikTok is a factory for a different kind of contagion, social contagion. Destructive and degrading and
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behaviors and lifestyle choices, concepts, ideas can go from fringe to trendy to mainstream quite
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literally overnight, right? What was unusual one minute might be ubiquitous the next. And people,
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especially young people, can get caught in the current and drown before they even notice that
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their shoes are wet. Here is perhaps the latest example and maybe the strangest. Also a very
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instructive example. Over on TikTok, there is apparently an intense interest in multiple
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personality disorder or DID, dissociative identity disorder is what they call it now. Hashtags related
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to this topic have millions of entries. I mean, hundreds of millions of entries. That's how much interest
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is. That's how popular it is. And many of them are from users claiming to have DID themselves.
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The trend has grown large enough that even Good Morning America has noticed. And they did a report
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on it a couple of days ago. Watch this. Now to the rise in teens on TikTok who are self-diagnosing
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themselves with rare mental health disorders that they probably don't have after watching videos
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on the social platform. It's a story we first saw in the Wall Street Journal. And Ariel Reshef joins us
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with more on this. Ariel, good morning. Good morning to you, Mary. Yeah, those videos have been
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viewed hundreds of millions of times. And while experts say this may be elevating a conversation
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about mental health, self-diagnosis can be a dangerous, slippery slope.
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DID typically occurs between the ages of six and nine.
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This morning, experts warning about what they call a troubling trend on TikTok that could leave some
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teens believing they have a serious mental disorder.
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Posts with the hashtag disassociative identity disorder and borderline personality disorder
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viewed hundreds of millions of times. Some of those videos listing possible signs to look out for
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Right. So now in these videos, and again, there are many of them,
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the alleged multiple personality sufferer will usually refer to themselves as the system.
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That's how these people refer to themselves. They are the system. And the system is the word they use
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to describe the whole collective of personalities that they have in their heads. And then each
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individual personality is called an altar. And they will then usually introduce each altar in their
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videos, each personality, and sometimes put on a different voice for each one. But that requires a
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certain amount of talent that most of these people don't have. And so most of the videos are kind
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Hi, my name is Becca. I'm the host of the system.
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Hi, I'm Bella. I don't really know what role I have in the system because I am a new alter.
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So my name is Rosa. I am the caretaker of the system.
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What's up? It's Jamie. I'm the primary protector of the system.
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Hi, my name is Vega. I am the sexual protector of the system.
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Hey, I'm Kai. I am a trauma holder and gatekeeper for the system. I work very closely with another
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alter, Nick, who is an internal caretaker. He does not really front.
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So you see, that's how multiple personality disorder works, apparently. All of the personalities
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are aware of each other and they work together. They hold meetings and conferences. They send
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memos back and forth and emails and everything. This is what happens, I guess, when you have 14
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personalities and they're all boring as hell. Though some members of the alleged DID community
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on TikTok, they do try to keep things a little bit more interesting. So here's a guy whose
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personalities are more antagonistic towards one another, which makes it more interesting. Watch.
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This is day in the life of somebody that has dissociative identity disorder. Let's go.
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Hi, everyone. It's Annie and I'm going to be in charge of cleaning today.
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That means I'm going to be out. I'm going to be listening to my music and I get a nice couple
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hours just to myself. This is really nice because I tried to get some time out yesterday and I
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couldn't. And since I'm going to be out for a little bit, I changed into my clothes. This is my
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necklace and this is a shirt somebody sent me. Hi, everybody. It's Alex. Annie got jalapeno in her eye
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and then switched out immediately. So I had to switch in and now I'm having to deal with the pain.
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So thank you, Annie. Hi, everybody. It's April. This is the before shot.
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And this is an after shot. This is why I'm in control of what the body looks like. The boys
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would make it look homeless. Now, the impression of DID that you get from videos like this is that
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a person with this disorder has sort of a cohort of little gnomes or gremlins living in his skull,
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driving him around, fighting for control of the steering wheel. And most of the videos are like
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this. And they've been extremely effective in convincing other people on the site, mostly kids,
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that they too can have multiple personalities. The problem, of course, there are a lot of problems.
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One of them is that this is how split personalities work in movies and TV shows,
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not in real life. There was a bestselling book called Sybil back in the 70s. I think they made a
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movie about the book as well. And that's the one that first popularized this concept of multiple
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personality disorder. Before that, it existed as a clinical concept, but it wasn't in the mainstream
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the way that it is now. And in that book, the patient Sybil, real name Shirley Mason,
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has a condition that works kind of like what you see in the TikTok videos, kind of like what you see
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in the movies. What was an M. Night Shyamalan movie split where the guy has 15 different personalities
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and some of them are serial killers and some of them aren't. And so Shirley Mason Sybil had something
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sort of like that. Problem though, the book was based on a lie. The whole thing was a hoax. It was
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a fraud. Even so, it's cemented into the minds of the American public and people this idea. And
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people have been convincing themselves that they suffer from this fake version of the illness ever
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since. Now, of course, I say fake version of the illness as if there's a real version.
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I don't think there is. Now, this is very much a live debate in the psychiatric field right now.
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Some so-called mental health experts will argue that DID exists, but it's very different from the
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cinematic portrayals. And others will say that the whole thing is a category error, that it doesn't
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exist at all. It's an invention of the psychiatric field itself. Now, according to this argument,
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which I find extremely persuasive, there's only a very, very, very small number of patients who would
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even potentially qualify for this diagnosis. And then among that small group, a certain portion
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of them are simply faking it. That's the problem with a lot of mental illnesses, in fact, is that
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despite what you're often told or what you might think, with a lot of these illnesses,
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they have not located the illness in the physical brain itself. Because if they had, they wouldn't
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call it a mental illness. They would call it a brain disease or a neurological condition.
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Well, those are distinct categories. So if they're calling it a mental illness, it means
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that they have not with any, with any, they have certainly not conclusively located the
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illness within the brain. And if you haven't located the illness physically, then it's really
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just theoretical whether it physically exists or not. And so that's, that's, that's another
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idea about multiple personality disorder, that it doesn't exist, that it's only a very, very
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small group of people who potentially would even qualify for it. Many of them are faking
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it. And then there's also another portion that have been convinced, they're not faking it
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intentionally. They've just been convinced through cultural and therapeutic influences
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that they have the disorder when they really don't. So it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
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Now, at any rate, it certainly can be said that those who believe in the existence of legitimate
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multiple personality disorder have never come close to actually proving that it exists.
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All they could do is produce examples of people who claim to have it, which is far from the
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sort of proof that they would really need. Is it even possible for a single mind to contain
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multiple distinct personalities, distinct minds within itself, which are separate from each
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other and not aware of what the other is thinking? How does that even work? Is it possible
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for a mind to be compartmentalized in that way? It's an extraordinary concept, which requires
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extraordinary evidence to prove, and none of that evidence has been provided. But that's all
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somewhat academic, right? Whether split personalities exist or not, we can hopefully all agree
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that 10 million people on TikTok didn't all suddenly start suffering from the illness all at the same
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time. This trend is without a doubt a result of both self-delusion and deliberate fraud,
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and often kind of a mix of the two. Maybe it begins as a deliberate fraud, and then people
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actually succeed in convincing themselves that they really have it. I used to be very good at this
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kind of thing when I was a kid, when I would pretend that I was six, I didn't have to go to school,
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and then by late morning, I'd actually start feeling sick because I was so good at acting the part.
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And I think something like that happens sometimes with these mental illnesses.
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Now, the more interesting and important question is why exactly so many people would want to convince
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the world and themselves that they suffer from what would be a debilitating mental illness.
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I think there are a few answers to that. One is the most obvious point that the mentally ill are a
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victim class. Victimhood is power in our culture, as we know. The more victim labels you can claim,
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the more power, the more social credit you accrue. Also, too, many people lack anything approaching
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a real identity or a real personality, mostly because they've been staring at screens every
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waking moment of their lives and letting the internet do all of their thinking for them.
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And they have almost no internal dialogue. They have almost no internal life at all.
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And because of this, you know, they tend to adopt a quantity over quality approach to personality.
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Usually, this will come in the form of adopting different pronouns, different sex and gender
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identities. But this latest thing is even better because it allows them to literally take on
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more than one personality. All of the personalities are dull and uninteresting,
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but what they lack in substance, they make up for in sheer numbers, I guess.
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Three, related to this, mental illness in general is especially trendy in its own right,
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largely for the reasons covered by the first two points. And four, this all stems from our
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fundamentally disjointed and essentially superstitious view of the self.
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So we see the self, ourselves, the self generally, not as a continuous, holistic, coherent thing,
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but as an arbitrary amalgamation of our desires and our hopes and our preferences in any given
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moment. We're constantly in the process of uncreating and recreating ourselves. Our self of five
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minutes ago doesn't necessarily bear any relation to our self of right now. And our self of right now
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may be entirely different from the self that takes the field tomorrow. We see ourselves in this
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culture today as these kinds of shape-shifting changelings, lacking any concrete overriding identity.
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And according to this view of things, really, we all have dissociative identity disorder because it's
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easy to dissociate from an identity when you don't really have one at all to begin with.
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All right, I got to hurry up and get through this show so I can go out and I can go out there,
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out just outside my car here and hit the slopes. And by that, I mean sled down the hill.
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In the backyard in my kid's $5 plastic saucer sled. You know, I mentioned this on the show
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yesterday and that I like to, you know, go sledding when it snows. And lots of people seem
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surprised and sort of taken aback and maybe slightly disturbed by this image of me going
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sledding and enjoying myself. Because that's not really on brand. I mean, sledding is not on brand
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and enjoying myself is not on brand. Enjoyment is not part of my brand. But I want to clarify,
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just to try to put an end to the PR crisis that has happened because of this rumor that I enjoy
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myself. My kids know that this is not about enjoyment, okay? My kids know that I always have
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to use the sleds first. And I have to play with any cool toys that they get. I have to play with
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them first. And I have to eat all their candy. And, you know, and I do that because it's about
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making sure that they're safe. It's about making sure that these things are safe for them.
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So this is a sacrifice on my part that I take on. Like, for example, the other day, my son took
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his allowance money and he used it to buy a remote control car for himself. A cheap one. Okay,
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believe me, we don't give these kids much in the way of allowance. So he had to save for about four
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years to buy a $12 toy. But anyway, he brought it home. And I, of course, had to play with it first
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just to make sure that it, you know, that it was safe, that it didn't explode or, you know,
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go haywire and start bumping into people's shins or whatever. And then when I started chasing the dog
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around the kitchen with a remote control car, that was all about safety. It was just making sure that
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it's safe. It's all safety. And my kids are so used to this now that every time they get a new toy or
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they have a new piece of candy or whatever, and I come into the room, they always ask me timidly.
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They say, Daddy, can you please not check if it's safe? Can we just use it ourselves?
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Well, what do you mean? You want me to forsake my fatherly duty? No, children. No. This hurts me
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more than it hurts you. Believe me. But I have to do what I have to do. You'll understand when you're
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older. Okay, this is what love is all about. All right. So first of all, we'll start here. Today is
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January 6th. You've probably heard by now. The most important of days. The most solemn
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of days. The holiest. The most tragic. The most significant. It's a day when almost every show
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will be talking about the fact that today is today and what today means and what it means
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and what it meant a year ago and what it means today and what it will mean next year. Both right
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and left shows. We'll be talking about January 6th on January 6th and the fact that it is January 6th,
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which is why I will not say anything else about it. Moving on. Second, Aaron Rodgers is the odds-on
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favorite to win MVP this year in the NFL because statistically he's had a great season and he's
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playing well. His team is playing well. But some sports writers have decided that he doesn't deserve
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to be MVP because he isn't vaccinated. Chicago sports writer Hub Arkush was on a local radio show
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yesterday in Chicago where he explained why he didn't vote for Rodgers. And again, it's got nothing to do
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it's all about his medical choices. Roger. Do you have an MVP vote this year, Hub?
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I do. Yeah, I'm one of the AP. There's 50 of us who vote and I am one of us.
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And are you, did you reveal that you're not voting for Aaron Rodgers? Is that correct?
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I did. Yeah. I mean, I've been pretty consistent about that all year. I don't think you can be the
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biggest jerk in the league and punish your team and your organization and your fan base the way he did
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and be the most valuable player. Has he been the most valuable on the field? Yeah,
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you could make that argument, but I don't think he is clearly that much more valuable than Jonathan
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Taylor or Cooper Cup or maybe even Tom Brady. And so from where I sit, the rest of it is why he's
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not going to be my choice. Do I think he's going to win it? Probably. You know, a lot of the voters
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don't approach it the same way that I do. Others do who I've spoken to. But one of the ways we get to
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keep being voters is we're not allowed to say who we are voting for until after the award has been
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announced. I'm probably pushing the envelope by saying who I'm not voting for. But we're not
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really supposed to reveal our votes. Okay. So we're going to decide MVP based on personal medical
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decisions that Aaron Rodgers has made. And as we've gone over a million times, you know, the argument
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that, well, it's not really personal because it affects other people, because you can affect other
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people if you don't get vaccinated. That argument, that was weak. When a year ago, when these vaccines
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first came out, now it's not just weak, it's it's moot. It's a moot point. You can't make that argument
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anymore. You can make it, but you're not gonna be taken seriously. Because vaccinated or not, everyone's
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spreading the virus. So the your whole argument about how it's reckless, you know, to not get
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vaccinated. You're not just being reckless with your own health, but you're putting other people in
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danger. That's that is the argument that all this stuff is based on the mandates, everything. It's all
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based on the idea that you're putting other people in danger if you don't get vaccinated. Well, that never
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really made sense, because if the vaccines prevent transmission, then as long as you're vaccinated, you
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have nothing to worry about. But now we know they don't. And so everyone's in the same boat. But you know,
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part of this is also just this is also when we look at the politicization, politicization of sports
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and when they're lecturing about vaccines or whatever, you know, part of this is a fact that
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a lot of these sports writers are dyed in the wool lefties. So we know that. But also, I think at a
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deeper level, psychologically, they want their job to be a lot more important than it really is.
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I think at a certain level, they they realize and they they acknowledge that they do what they do
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for a living is really kind of stupid and frivolous. And I say that as someone who enjoys sports and I
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like watching sports and I'll listen to sports analysts drone on sometimes. But I even when I'm
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sitting there and I'm watching sports analysts, I'm listening to sports analysts argue about who's the MVP
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or whatever, you know, who who played the best game yesterday. I'm listening to these arguments.
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I still recognize that this is very, very stupid, really. It's one thing to watch the sport, but the
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discussion around it. It's really kind of dumb. And if this is what you do for a living every single
00:24:07.560
day, then I think some of these people that's that's that's why look, if this is what you do for a
00:24:11.700
living, you talk about sports and and you embrace that, like this is what I do. It's it's it's
00:24:18.400
entertainment. I'm I'm an entertainer and and that's fine. Then I say, well, that's that's
00:24:23.340
perfectly noble. That's perfectly fine. OK, I I do a podcast for a living here. I am in my car right
00:24:29.920
now. How important can I be? So as long as you will embrace that, that's what it is. It's just
00:24:34.760
entertainment. Sports is entertainment. And if you're a sports writer, then you also, in effect,
00:24:40.820
are an entertainer because that's all that this is all about. But I think that there are some
00:24:48.360
sports writers, sports analysts who who want to be more important than that. And when you think about
00:24:55.100
the discussion, what this guy what's this guy's name again? Hub Arkush. He's brought on to talk
00:25:01.200
about MVP. What is that? The most let's have it. Let's have a discussion and let's debate for
00:25:08.520
months on end who the most valuable player is, which is a totally arbitrary doesn't even make
00:25:14.640
really any sense. The most valuable player to his own team. Well, each team has their own most
00:25:20.380
valuable player. So who's the most valuable list of all the valuable players? What does that mean?
00:25:25.740
Why does it matter? Who who exactly put you in charge of declaring that? Who cares what you
00:25:32.080
declare? It's all arbitrary, but they want to find some deeper social significance to what they're
00:25:37.220
doing because of their own ego, their own narcissism, their own vanity. They don't want to admit that,
00:25:42.560
hey, we're just entertainers. This is all entertainment. That's all it is. And so I think that's what a lot
00:25:46.020
of this politicization is all about. OK, meanwhile, Whoopi Goldberg has been gone from the view because she
00:25:51.280
got COVID, even though she's been vaccinated three times. And she came out of the view yesterday to
00:25:56.380
talk about how shocked she is that she did everything right and she still got COVID.
00:26:02.260
I left a couple of weeks ago, just before the break, because somebody I had been around
00:26:09.300
tested positive for coronavirus. So I left. So I've been gone a long time, I feel. And I was all excited
00:26:17.180
and, you know, they have to test us. And so they sent people to test me and they tested me. And it
00:26:25.360
was like, oh, no, you're not you're not coming back. We're not sending anybody to your house. You
00:26:30.660
have Corona. And it was like, wait, what? What? It was it was a shock because, you know, I'm triple
00:26:36.960
vaxxed. I haven't been anywhere. I haven't done anything. But that's the that's the thing about
00:26:41.560
the Omicron. You just don't know where it is. You don't know where it is. Who's got it?
00:26:46.460
Who's passing it? So, you know, it's one of those things where you think I've done everything I was
00:26:51.740
supposed to do. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't it doesn't stop Omicron. And that's the problem
00:26:57.020
with a variant because it gets stronger and does different stuff to you. So, you know,
00:27:04.060
unless everybody gets vaccinated, this is what we're going to be facing.
00:27:08.580
OK, first of all, it's really cold in this in this car. I didn't really think about that. It's about
00:27:12.760
20 degrees outside and I can't have the car on because that'd make that'd be a distracting
00:27:17.940
noise. So I'm just sitting here freezing anyway. Whoopi Goldberg is is really shocked and appalled
00:27:24.940
and almost sort of offended by the universe that it's put her in this position. She says,
00:27:32.260
I did everything right and I still got it. Well, yeah. Now, maybe connect the dots on that.
00:27:39.800
You've spent years doing it. You have adjusted your life. You have your life has revolved around
00:27:45.940
this for years. You've been wearing masks. You've been you've you've been injecting everything they
00:27:50.560
tell you to inject every time big pharma comes out with another another another vial of
00:27:56.100
of drugs. And they say, inject this into your body. You say, oh, yep, here's my arm. You present
00:28:02.440
it dutifully to be injected with it. And you do all of that. And you've secluded yourself from your
00:28:08.860
family, all of that. And yet you still got it. OK, so you've you've realized that now connect the next
00:28:17.720
dot. Just what does that mean? Does that mean that, well, now you've got to double down
00:28:24.360
and inject yourself with even more stuff and wear five masks now instead of four and isolate
00:28:33.280
yourself even more. No, it means that it's futile, that there's no reason to do it, that you're going
00:28:40.340
to get sick. Everyone's going to get sick and then you're good. And then most likely you're going to
00:28:44.420
be fine. And then you're gonna go back to living your life and down the road from now, maybe a year
00:28:49.600
from now, maybe two years, maybe five years, you'll probably get sick again with COVID.
00:28:54.360
And then eventually you'll get sick with something, probably not COVID, that will kill
00:28:58.840
you. And that will be it. So live your life. OK, and then there's there's this one more thing
00:29:04.520
on COVID. Here is user that darn chat on TikTok giving her reflections on the last two years.
00:29:11.820
And she is by far not alone, I think, in feeling this way, unfortunately. Listen.
00:29:18.040
I usually have no problem finding words for things, but lately I just I'm at a loss. Every
00:29:25.320
single person I talk to is drowning. And for me, the day to day, it's fine. It's not fine,
00:29:31.600
but it's fine. I'm getting through it. And I feel like I've been in a state of grief now for what,
00:29:37.580
two years? Grief that my kid will never go to a story time at the library. My kids haven't had
00:29:43.100
birthday parties. My grandparents have never met my two year old. There's grief around what I've
00:29:47.980
had to face through difficult conversations with loved ones, learning that there is a drastic
00:29:53.540
difference between my values and theirs. Grief in having to face that we are only cogs in a machine
00:29:59.420
that despite the fact when capitalism failed early pandemic and so many people stepped up to care for
00:30:05.940
each other. The systems that be want to continue to make survival an individual effort. I feel grief
00:30:13.000
over isolation. I feel grief that my kids have to grow up with a mom in survival mode and morning
00:30:19.280
routine and access to dreams because it just feels like there's no end. Every day as a parent is
00:30:26.140
assessing risk and trying to figure out what fat to trim. Yeah, it is really cold in here.
00:30:32.180
Can you see my breath yet? It's very cold in this car. Anyway, what was she talking about? Yeah,
00:30:39.600
yeah. This is, unfortunately, she says she feels all this grief and everything. And
00:30:44.680
these are all things that she's, that she has done to herself. These are all choices that she has made
00:30:49.520
for no good reason whatsoever. She has decided to destroy her life and that's, that's her own decision.
00:30:55.320
But unfortunately she has kids and it's not their decision. And she's destroying their life as well.
00:31:01.320
But what we have to understand, unfortunately, is that, you know, there, there's no rescuing these
00:31:07.080
people. Um, I mean, that woman there, there's, there's, her brain is broken. I don't think there's
00:31:13.640
any way to rescue her now. As I've been talking about this, this part of what this has been about
00:31:19.820
from the beginning is that people are, people like this woman here who had been living in this
00:31:27.440
kind of psychological bubble and had insulated themselves in their luxury, had been insulated,
00:31:34.480
insulated themselves from, from the reality of the human condition and from the reality of their
00:31:39.520
own mortality, finally face, forced to, to confront the reality of human mortality. They just, in,
00:31:46.600
in that confrontation, it, it, something snapped in their heads and they, they weren't able to face
00:31:52.700
it because that's all this has been about. Someone, someone like her, she's young. She appears to be
00:32:00.620
healthy. COVID has posed almost no threat to her at all this entire time, but it is a threat. I mean,
00:32:11.260
it's out there. It could kill you. And, um, and there are many other things that could kill you
00:32:17.200
too, but this is the, but this is being shoved down your throat every second of the day.
00:32:22.740
And so it just, it made her realize her along with millions of other people very early on,
00:32:28.860
it was like this moment for them where they, they realized, Oh my gosh, there's, I'm a human being.
00:32:33.180
I'm, I'm, I'm mortal. I could die. I am totally vulnerable and naked and exposed in my, in, in the
00:32:43.700
human condition. I am this frail, pathetic little thing here for only a temporary period of time
00:32:50.800
and everything out there could kill me at any second.
00:32:55.100
Now some, some people who are a bit more reflective have always known that and have lived every day
00:33:02.900
with that awareness. And we've learned how to just cope with it, but she never did. She never
00:33:08.680
learned how to cope with it. And, um, all of this came on all at once and it broke her and so many
00:33:15.980
others. And I'm not sure that there's any rescuing them now psychologically. And that's a, that's a great
00:33:21.580
tragedy because again, if we can't rescue them, it means that's gonna be very difficult to rescue
00:33:27.220
their kids. All right. Uh, moving on this from the New York post says Pope Francis 85 had some choice
00:33:36.480
words. Pope Francis, 85 years old, by the way, that's not his name. Pope Francis 85. Um, Pope
00:33:42.580
Francis had some choice words for the childless at the Vatican on Wednesday and remarks to a general
00:33:47.860
audience. The Catholic church had called out couples who have chosen not to have children
00:33:52.140
and opted to have pets. Instead, the Pope said, quote, today, we see a form of selfishness.
00:33:58.080
We see that some people do not want to have a child. Sometimes they have one and that's it,
00:34:03.540
but they have dogs and cats that take the place of the children. He suggested that, uh, couples who
00:34:08.880
can't bear children should look into adoption. The cost of which can tally up to $70,000. The Pope
00:34:14.260
went on, went on, how many children in the world are waiting for someone to take care
00:34:17.800
of them? It's a risk. Yes. Having a child is always a risk either naturally or by adoption,
00:34:22.620
but it is riskier not to have them. It is riskier to deny fatherhood or to deny motherhood,
00:34:27.880
be it real or spiritual. Um, well, it's not very often that I get to say that I agree with Pope
00:34:35.700
Francis about something. As I said, even a book, even a broken Pope is right. Well, he's certainly
00:34:40.020
not right twice a day, but maybe twice a decade he's right about something. And so this is one of
00:34:44.660
those times. Um, it's, it almost sounds like Pope Francis has been listening to the Matt
00:34:50.060
Walsh show. Maybe he listens to my podcast. I don't know, because this is something you've
00:34:53.800
heard me rant and rave about many times. Look, and we need to clarify for the people who struggle
00:35:00.400
with this for some reason. When we talk about this, nobody is saying that you have some kind of moral
00:35:07.860
failing. If you're not able to have kids, obviously, um, nobody's saying that it's a moral failing to
00:35:17.080
have pets. Well, I would almost go that far, but I'm not going to go that far, especially because
00:35:22.420
unfortunately we have pets. Uh, so that's, that's not the point. The point is when a choice is made
00:35:29.660
by couples, you know, who could, who could be parents when a choice is made to be the parent of,
00:35:38.060
uh, of animals rather than human beings. That's when it becomes a moral failing. That is selfishness.
00:35:45.740
That is you giving up on the human species. And in fact, as Pope Francis points out, if you're a
00:35:54.540
couple and, um, and you can't have kids again, not your fault, but that's when you're, you, you are,
00:36:01.540
uh, prime candidates to go adopt any of the, any of the many children out there who are languishing in
00:36:08.660
the adoption system or in foster homes. Now adoption isn't, isn't for everyone necessarily. I mean,
00:36:15.320
that's something you got to reflect about and pray about, but, but, uh, but, you know, if you,
00:36:20.660
if you can't have kids rather than going out and adopting 15 dogs or something, it's certainly worth
00:36:28.080
considering whether one of these children right now who have, I mean, think about kids who are
00:36:34.380
suffering in this way. It's, it's unthinkable. Now, fortunately, um, young, young, very young
00:36:42.880
children, babies, there's a wait list two miles long for babies who are up for adoption. They're
00:36:50.840
not going to be in the system for very long, but a child who's a little bit older is six or seven
00:36:55.720
years old and ends up in the system, ends up in a foster home, uh, ends up in the adoption system.
00:37:01.940
You know, there's, they're just, there aren't that many candidates out there waiting to adopt kids
00:37:06.780
that age. And so that's a great thing that you could do is to become a parent of one of those
00:37:11.600
children. It's something to consider. But mainly, I think what we're talking about here is the choice
00:37:16.880
again, to forego being an actual parent of human beings. And instead you're going to be a parent
00:37:24.040
of animals. Um, I, I do think that there's a fair amount of selfishness that comes into this.
00:37:32.400
You know, the, why is it that people love having pets? And when they talk, when you, when you,
00:37:38.760
when you hear people say that, uh, they prefer dogs over people, you know, you know, you know,
00:37:44.960
how much that annoys me when I hear people say that, especially because I know why they're saying
00:37:49.380
it. Why do they prefer dogs over people? Well, because dogs are not nearly as challenging as
00:37:54.840
people. Dogs don't, don't require sacrifice of you the same way, the same way people do.
00:38:02.780
A dog is just going to sit there. He's going to be very happy to see you all the time. He has very
00:38:08.240
little, he has, he has very little of his, of his own identity, you know, so he's not going to impose
00:38:14.020
his own identity on you in that way. He is there for you. Um, uh, and, and his, his life revolves around
00:38:24.720
you. And that's, and that's why people love dogs that much because it makes them feel better about
00:38:33.800
themselves. Cause when you get a dog, that dog's life is going to revolve entirely around you.
00:38:39.540
Doesn't make it bad to have a dog, but that is why people like dogs. Human beings are different.
00:38:45.460
You know, a human being, they're going to be, they're going to have their own identity
00:38:47.860
and their life is not going to revolve entirely around you. As very young children, that tends to be
00:38:54.140
the way it goes, but as they get older, they start to develop their own identity.
00:38:58.980
And, um, that's when there's even more of a sacrifice required of you. That also means that
00:39:04.760
the love in that relationship is much more meaningful because it's also, this is, this is also a choice
00:39:12.680
made by both people. So it's all self-serving, I think. Okay. Um, this is from the Daily Wire.
00:39:21.020
There are several women on the University of Pennsylvania swim team considered boycotting
00:39:25.640
their final home meet in protest of transgender teammate Leah Thomas's physical advantages and
00:39:30.800
dominance. The women ultimately decided not to go through with the boycott. The Daily Mail reported
00:39:35.340
fearing that they would be banned from the Ivy League championship. The women also discussed
00:39:39.280
participating in a false start. A source close to the team told the Daily Mail, um,
00:39:44.420
they've been ignored by both Penn and the NCAA. And there's a feeling amongst some of the girls
00:39:50.960
that they should make some sort of statement, seize the opportunity while they have a spotlight on them
00:39:58.820
So they were, they were thinking about staging a protest. They were thinking about boycotting.
00:40:04.320
They were thinking about refusing to take part in all of this. Um, but then ultimately they decided
00:40:09.280
otherwise, well, I have to say it's good that they were thinking about it,
00:40:12.960
but we need to graduate beyond the point of simply thinking about it and actually doing.
00:40:20.940
So I understand why they didn't go through with it because they're worried about the consequences
00:40:26.580
to their career. They're, they're worried about, um, what will happen. They're worried about being
00:40:34.000
punished by the Ivy league or whatever. So, so I, I get that, but at a certain point,
00:40:40.460
we need to be willing to make sacrifices in order to take a stand for what's right,
00:40:49.260
to take a stand for basic sanity and truth and moral decency.
00:40:56.340
If we're ruling that out, if we are ruling courage out and we're saying, well, we want to solve all
00:41:03.160
these problems in a way that will not require courage. Well then forget it, pack it in, forget it.
00:41:11.840
None of these problems, civilization is done. Abandon all hope at that point. If we're ruling
00:41:18.700
out courage, because yeah, it would, it would require courage. It's, it's not fair to these
00:41:23.420
girls that they were put in this position. It's not fair that, that, um, refusing to participate in
00:41:29.060
the charade of a swim meet where there's a guy competing against girls. It's not fair that that
00:41:34.260
could, um, create significant blowback for them. None of that is fair, but, but, but that's, that's
00:41:41.620
life. That, that's what they're faced with. That's the reality. It shouldn't be that way, but it is.
00:41:49.840
And so if you want to help make sure that it's not going to be that way for the next group,
00:41:53.740
then you need to stand up and do the right thing. Not just think about it, do it. Yes, it, it, it,
00:42:01.080
it, it may cause problems for you. It may hurt your career. It may damage your reputation,
00:42:06.780
but there are times in life when that's, when you're called upon to make those kinds of sacrifices.
00:42:16.040
I am at the point of, of victim blaming with this. I really am.
00:42:25.160
You know, the, the people, the women who choose to participate in these kinds of events,
00:42:33.860
when there's men involved, the parents who don't pull their kids out,
00:42:39.220
all the people who go along with it. I mean, I, I think they all deserve some of the blame now
00:42:47.240
because there's something you could do about it and you're not doing it.
00:42:55.820
If all of these girls got together and said, we are not doing this. We're not going to participate
00:43:00.480
in this. This is a farce. Everyone knows that it's a farce. Everyone knows that it's wrong.
00:43:05.320
And we're not going to play this game. If every girl did that, or even half of them,
00:43:16.860
Time to step up. Time to step up, ladies. All right. Uh, from the New York post, it says the
00:43:21.220
pizza chain, Little Caesars is bumping the price of its famous hot and ready pizza above $5 for the
00:43:26.700
first time in a quarter century. The price of the promotional pie, which was first introduced in 1997
00:43:31.640
is increasing by 11% to $5 and 55 cents. So inflation claims another victim. Um, but I do have
00:43:39.820
to say, and this is pretty bad because $5 is already way overpriced for what they're selling.
00:43:46.280
Little Caesars pizza taste wise is indistinguishable from the box it comes in. So it's actually kind of
00:43:52.660
a nice deal because it's, it's a two for one. You can eat the pizza and then eat the cardboard box
00:43:57.540
that it comes in and they're like the same thing. They taste the same. Little Caesars pizza is a,
00:44:03.080
is a pizza box with, um, hot ketchup smeared across and a little bit of mozzarella cheese.
00:44:10.000
And that's, that's the whole recipe. Little Caesars is so bad that it makes dominoes seem edible by
00:44:15.940
comparison. That's how bad it is. And now it's going to be $5 and 55 cents. Thanks a lot, Joe Biden.
00:44:22.040
Let's get down to the comment section. Oh man, I can't feel my toes at this point. So we got to
00:44:37.040
hurry up through this. Uh, Jesse Miller says I could totally imagine Matt out in the snow,
00:44:41.260
taking sledding super seriously. Well, I do take it seriously because again, it's all about safety
00:44:45.100
for my kids and, um, it's a very serious business. Phillip says I've been in law enforcement since
00:44:50.000
1991. I must say something. If any of the Capitol police officers who are present on January 6th
00:44:54.580
are traumatized by that event, then they should probably seek another career because they're
00:44:58.300
not cut out to be in law enforcement. Uh, yeah, I think, I think what you're saying is valid,
00:45:03.860
especially because we have not heard, um, any of the officers who were subjected to the BLM riots
00:45:12.600
complaining about their trauma. Von Ronken says the cry circle tradition was absolutely hilarious.
00:45:19.160
This hilarious. This is my pain and suffering and that of my family. And you find that hilarious.
00:45:32.280
These open vulnerable moments that we have as a family where we sit around in a circle and weep.
00:45:39.600
Well, I'm glad to know that, that our pain is funny to you. You're banned from the show. Yes,
00:45:45.740
I can still ban you from the show, even as I'm sitting in my car. Um, and, uh, let's see. James
00:45:52.180
says, Matt, I'm a mortgage loan officer. Seeing how interested in my business you are and how much
00:45:56.640
you truly appreciate it makes me happier than I can express. Well, yeah, mortgages are one of my great
00:46:01.160
passions in life. Um, just like all of, all of our, um, advertisers, all of our sponsors, you know,
00:46:07.880
I'm passionate. I think, I think it really comes through in the way that I read the advertisements.
00:46:11.840
Um, Constantine says armed robbery should unironically carry the death penalty.
00:46:19.420
I think there's a much better argument that can be made for the death penalty for all armed robbers
00:46:23.840
than the, than misdemeanor as what it is in Manhattan. Now it's a misdemeanor.
00:46:29.920
Um, and oh, there was a good one that I gotta, I gotta read. Oh, here it is. Here's Johnny says,
00:46:37.580
Hey Matt, I think you'll find this story interesting. So yesterday I went into a department
00:46:41.740
store while sporting my brand new sweet baby gang t-shirt that I got for Christmas this year.
00:46:46.380
When it was my turn to check out, I approached the counter with my things.
00:46:49.580
As the cashier began scanning, he soon took notice of my shirt and asked me with a smile.
00:46:53.900
So what does your shirt mean anyway? As I started to open my mouth to explain,
00:46:57.620
another store worker close by interrupted while laughing and goes, yeah, is that like a daycare
00:47:02.060
center or something? How dare he? How dare he? I was a little bit offended, but I just wanted to
00:47:09.060
move on with my day. So I simply said back to him, no, it's actually more of an inside joke. At that
00:47:14.020
moment, the cashier asked me, so what's the joke? At this point I was pretty ticked off. I then adjusted
00:47:18.600
my posture, began to arch my shoulders back to assert my dominance, uh, made close, made, made close eye
00:47:25.200
contact with both of them and proudly said aloud, the first rule of sweet baby gang is nobody talks about
00:47:30.340
sweet baby gang. They both laughed loudly and the coworker began to walk away while shaking his
00:47:35.480
head saying, oh, MFG man. Wow. The cashier still chuckling a bit, then asked seriously, dude.
00:47:42.180
I looked him stone cold in the face, stared right into his eyes and sternly replied, yes. He then
00:47:47.800
seemed taken aback and even froze for a second before responding to me. He then leaned over to the
00:47:52.120
counter towards me and whispered in my ear, how can I become a member?
00:47:55.440
I have to say, normally when someone tells me ahead of time how I'm going to respond to a story,
00:48:03.460
oh, you'll like this. Oh, you'll think this is funny. Oh, you'll find this interesting.
00:48:07.060
Normally when they do that, I'll react the opposite way just out of spite because I don't like being
00:48:10.580
told what to do. But in this case, yeah, I did indeed find that very interesting. Um, that was a far
00:48:16.520
more interesting story than anything in any Marvel movie, for example. And this just shows the beauty of
00:48:22.540
the sweet baby gang, I think, because it confuses people and it makes them very uncomfortable and it
00:48:28.800
causes really awkward conversations. But then in the end, in the midst of the chaos, their defenses
00:48:35.040
are broken down and that's when we grab them. You know, that's when we take hold of them.
00:48:41.280
And before they, before they know it, they're in the cult too. So masterfully done, Johnny,
00:48:46.680
my good and faithful servant. Tomorrow's a huge day for the Daily Wire and the lawsuit against the
00:48:51.420
Biden administration's tyrannical vaccine mandates. Why is that? Because it's the day the Supreme
00:48:55.240
Court will convene to hear arguments on the legality and constitutionality of the Biden's,
00:49:00.300
uh, Biden administration's dissent into all out medical tyranny. That's why we need to make sure
00:49:06.240
that we have as many signatures as we possibly can on our do not comply petition. Um, and we've
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already got 1 million. We want to add more. Go to dailywire.com slash do not comply. It's dailywire.com
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slash do not comply and sign that petition. Now, now let's get to our daily cancellation.
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You know, over the last couple of days, I've spoken about my experience watching the latest
00:49:29.320
Spider-Man film over Christmas break. Um, as a father, um, again, called upon to make many harrowing
00:49:35.180
sacrifices for my children and taking them to see Spider-Man was just the latest. In fact,
00:49:39.180
many of my fatherly sacrifices have to do with, uh, enduring awful movies, you know, and it's a burden
00:49:45.040
that I carry with, with, uh, with silent dignity, I think. Well, maybe not silent and not dignity
00:49:51.480
because I complain about it all the time, but still the point is that I watched Spider-Man.
00:49:55.840
I didn't like it to say the least. And during the comment section of the show, um, I have briefly
00:50:00.880
made my case against it, but this conversation has provoked anger from the audience and even
00:50:06.900
dissension within the ranks at the daily wire. My own producers, Sean and McKenna are Marvel
00:50:12.060
apologists themselves. And I'm told by a source that when I was making fun of Spider-Man yesterday
00:50:16.540
on the show, the people in the control room were shaking their heads scornfully because they didn't
00:50:21.880
approve of what I was saying. Things have gotten very, very tense. We just hired a new intern for
00:50:27.280
the show, uh, this week. And I had to send her to my car yesterday to start my car for me in case
00:50:32.400
somebody had planted a bomb or something. Cause that's, that's how serious this is. But one thing
00:50:37.480
you know about me is that when people get upset about something that I say, that just encourages
00:50:42.380
me to say it again, louder and longer. I have, as you know, the maturity of a four-year-old,
00:50:47.640
which means that I should actually be the target audience for Marvel movies, but they still don't
00:50:52.060
resonate with me because although I have the maturity of a, of a toddler, uh, I still have the brain of an
00:50:56.980
adult, which unfortunately precludes me from enjoying anything that Marvel has to offer. And so today
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we're moving beyond just the latest Spider-Man movie. And instead we're going to expand the scope
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of our inquiry. And finally, once in for all, cancel Marvel itself, all Marvel movies. They're
00:51:15.320
all canceled. Indeed, all superhero movies of all types are canceled. And I'll explain why the first
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problem with superhero movies is that they're all exactly the same and they exist primarily to sell
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merchandise. These films are basically 95 minute Mattel commercials only with less plot and worse
00:51:34.400
acting. Now I'm being generous when I say less plot, because that implies the basic existence of
00:51:39.700
some kind of plot. Now, superhero movies in the nineties were merely light on plot. Superhero movies
00:51:46.300
these days are entirely plot less. And that's because of the advent of franchise filmmaking and world
00:51:52.580
building. And that's turned every movie into a setup for the next movie, which itself is a
00:51:57.840
setup for the next one on and on into the infinite abyss. Nothing can ever really happen. There could
00:52:03.680
be no substantial progress, no final resolution, no real character development, no actual triumph for
00:52:11.080
defeat because it's always just setting it up for the next one. Each installment, none of these
00:52:17.180
installments exist on their own. None of them stand on their own as films. They just exist because
00:52:24.880
they got to set up the next one and the next one and the next one. You may as well pay $18 to watch
00:52:29.660
Thor play solitaire for two hours or something. I mean, it's, it's, it's the same in the end.
00:52:35.800
10,000 years from now, as, as the next installment of Spider-Man is released to the screens that we'll
00:52:40.740
all have permanently implanted in our eyeballs at that point, I think philosophers will be debating
00:52:45.980
whether these superhero franchises even had a beginning at all. They may well conclude that there was
00:52:52.000
no prime mover, no first cause in the Marvel and DC universe. These movies always existed telling the
00:52:59.360
exact same stories with the exact same actors since before the beginning of time itself. Now, don't get
00:53:06.760
me wrong. Um, I don't hate superhero movies as a concept. I have nothing against a fanciful tale about
00:53:15.480
a man in a rubber suit fighting bad guys, bad guys who through approximately 20 million story arcs
00:53:23.000
still have not thought to simply walk up to their nemesis and shoot him directly in the face.
00:53:29.140
Now I'm no expert on the mythology of Marvel or DC, but I'm pretty sure a bullet to the face would
00:53:35.120
dispatch almost all of the heroes in all of the universes. I know, except for Superman and a few
00:53:40.600
others, but the rest, I mean, Spider-Man just walk up to him and shoot him in the head. And that's,
00:53:46.860
that's it. That's the end of that. But these are issues with story and superhero movies don't exist
00:53:53.960
to tell stories. They don't exist because someone really felt passionate about telling another story
00:53:59.200
about Aquaman beating up a tiger shark or whatever. They exist to perpetuate a brand. Now, all filmmakers
00:54:07.900
want to make money. Every movie is supposed to make money, though lots of them don't. But for
00:54:13.720
these superhero franchises, that's the be all and end all. That's the alpha and omega. That's the only
00:54:19.040
point. The films are not inventions of storytellers, but of corporate focus groups. They are things made
00:54:27.440
simply to exploit a market. Now it's a very large market and a profitable one. And it's one that I
00:54:33.240
would sell my soul and exploit also if I could make a billion dollars doing it. But that's all this is
00:54:37.860
about. Now, when I talk about this, I'm often accused of taking the stories too seriously.
00:54:43.840
But that's exactly the problem. I don't take them seriously because I can't. I take them as
00:54:48.420
seriously as I take like a Geico commercial. And the problem is that the writers don't take the
00:54:53.380
stories seriously either, which is why they're at the point now of throwing everything into the mix
00:54:57.680
just to keep the franchise going. Superpowers, magic, miraculous technology, throw it all in.
00:55:05.000
Whatever is needed in each successive moment to propel it to the next moment.
00:55:10.460
And each moment is inherently meaningless because it only exists to set up the next one.
00:55:15.840
And then at the end, you can erase everybody's memory and do it all over again in the next movie.
00:55:23.320
They aren't writers at all. They're glorified content aggregators.
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All of these Marvel script writers, they should be writing listicles for BuzzFeed.
00:55:37.620
Because that's what the movies really are. They're kind of just like clickbait content.
00:55:43.320
In the era of content creation, that's what these movies are. They're simply content.
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It's Marvel saying, well, here's two and a half hours.
00:55:58.900
They shovel more slop into the mouths of an ever eager and compliant public,
00:56:03.940
always ready to eat whatever is served to them.
00:56:12.320
And I urge you to free yourself of their clutches.
00:56:17.240
I urge you to join me in saying to comic book movies,
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So I'm going to stop the show and go inside and warm up
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Which would be, speaking of content, would be interesting content.
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