The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 879 - Why The Modern Dating Scene Is A Toxic Wasteland

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Wall Show, marriage rates in our country are plummeting to historic lows.

00:00:03.980 This is partly due to the fact that the modern dating scene is a miserable,

00:00:07.400 despair-inducing train wreck. We'll try to sift through the rubble today and figure out what has

00:00:10.940 gone so wrong exactly. Also, protesters across the world marched against vaccine mandates on Sunday,

00:00:16.300 and more people on the center-left are finally coming out against draconian COVID policies

00:00:21.340 two years later. Is it too little too late, or should we welcome these converts with open arms?

00:00:26.220 Plus, is war with Russia on the horizon? And in our daily cancellation, we'll discuss the

00:00:30.360 Democratic lawmaker who tried to dunk on pro-lifers only to have it backfire in

00:00:34.200 hilarious fashion. We'll talk about all that and more today on The Matt Wall Show.

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00:01:38.140 order. As a married man, you know, I look at the modern dating scene like someone who ran out of a

00:01:43.780 burning building seconds before it collapsed. Somebody on Twitter recently said that married

00:01:47.820 people these days must feel like they caught the last chopper out of Nam, and perhaps that's the 0.98

00:01:52.520 better analogy. Whichever image you prefer, the point is that I wake up every day grateful to be

00:01:56.780 married, mostly because, you know, I love my wife and my family, but also because I simply could not be

00:02:02.160 a single man in this environment. I would have already become a monk or a hermit in the woods by now.

00:02:08.620 I don't say this to rub it in the faces of people in the audience who are single. I say it more as

00:02:12.760 encouragement, really, for any who are married. Because even if you're struggling in your marriage,

00:02:16.880 even if you and your spouse have hit hard times, consider that the alternative is to wander alone

00:02:22.440 in this barren wasteland. Realize that all you have is each other. Out there, it's dark and cold,

00:02:29.480 and you'll likely die shivering and alone. So your marriage is your shelter. Be grateful for it.

00:02:35.080 Stop screwing it up. Do you really want to start over again in this environment? Would you really

00:02:40.020 prefer to be out there dating during the zombie apocalypse? Again, I'm not trying to make single

00:02:44.280 people feel bad. It's more that I'm commiserating with you. Now, many of the problems with modern

00:02:49.180 dating and with modern culture in general and dating in general were highlighted by a recent viral

00:02:54.200 phenomenon, which began on TikTok, as they often do, and then spread like herpes to other social

00:02:58.680 media platforms, which is where I became aware of it. From what I can tell, it began when a woman

00:03:03.700 used her platform to vent her frustrations about a man that she'd recently met on a dating app called

00:03:10.080 Hinge, which I didn't even know existed until I heard about this. The man, Caleb, took her out on 0.99

00:03:15.700 one date and then never talked to her again, otherwise known as a ghosting, as the kids call it now.

00:03:21.960 Other women on TikTok then chimed in with their own horror stories about the man who had quickly been

00:03:26.300 dubbed West Elm Caleb, a moniker based on where he works. And soon his name was trending nationwide.

00:03:32.260 He had been doxxed all across the internet. So here's just to give you an idea of what this is.

00:03:37.360 Here's a quick sample of one of the video testimonials. And there are like hundreds like

00:03:42.220 this. But one of the video testimonials that you might find detailing the dastardly crimes of this

00:03:49.020 Caleb character. Here it is. I matched with Caleb on Hinge and we started talking. We talked for like

00:03:56.580 two, three weeks, maybe like nothing serious. I never met this man, like literally just texting,

00:04:03.440 Snapchatting, whatever. Same thing happened that everyone's talking about. He was super weird,

00:04:09.160 like started getting very cryptic and concerning and ghosted. So he ghosted me. We stopped talking.

00:04:17.980 I went my separate way. Didn't think of this man, you know, it was nothing really going on.

00:04:25.140 And then, okay, so I go on my life. I'm minding my own business until about a month ago, sometime

00:04:33.560 during December, I see that I have a, an Instagram request, DM request or whatever. And who could it

00:04:43.620 be? Who could it be? It's him on his new Instagram account, not Caleb Hunter. Okay.

00:04:52.900 Riveting. Like I told you, I'm so glad I'm not dating anymore with, with people like this.

00:04:57.520 This is what you have to deal with. And I'm talking about the woman, not even the guy. 0.98

00:05:02.920 Now she went on in that video to post screenshots of the texts from Caleb, where he tries to get back

00:05:08.540 into her good graces after ignoring her for a year. She, she, she turns them down and that's the end of it.

00:05:12.800 So far as I can tell, all of the videos are like this. Caleb is guilty of being rude and tacky.

00:05:17.520 And for that infraction, he apparently deserves to be doxxed and publicly shamed by women who are 0.99

00:05:22.340 all almost certainly at least as shallow and selfish as he is. So there's a lot that can be said about 0.97

00:05:27.600 the lack of proportionality when the internet mob sets its sights on someone, local news stories

00:05:33.060 become global concerns and stories that wouldn't even be fit to air on the local news or to be written

00:05:38.280 on a note card and tacked to a bulletin board somewhere still turn into national affairs.

00:05:42.800 We could say plenty about that, but that's not what we're focused on today.

00:05:46.600 Dating is the issue. And this story reveals its myriad pitfalls in our current climate. The whole

00:05:52.440 scene is, is one big pit that so many millions fall into and never managed to escape. Marriage 0.76

00:05:57.460 rates are plummeting rapidly and historically in this country. So that as of two years ago,

00:06:01.740 as of just two years ago, less than half of the households in the U S consisted of married

00:06:07.140 couples and families. Now to put that in perspective in 1950, that number was 80%. So it used to be 80%

00:06:14.820 of the households featured a married couple was a family with a married couple. Now it's less than

00:06:19.680 half and the numbers are still trending downward. There are numerous reasons for this catastrophic

00:06:25.400 shift, but certainly one of the most prominent reasons is that our social system for matching people

00:06:30.720 up, pairing them off and setting them on the path towards marriage and parenthood and real adult

00:06:36.200 life is fundamentally broken. So for one thing, everyone of course is using dating apps now,

00:06:42.560 which are, which are different even from the dating sites of ancient times back in the early

00:06:45.820 two thousands. When I was, when I was single, we had the dating websites. And back then you would

00:06:50.020 fill out a lengthy profile and you'd be given in return a comparatively small group of potential

00:06:56.560 matches to contact. But now those old fashioned websites have been replaced by apps, which are

00:07:01.460 much easier to use and to peruse. And most people have more than one that they monitor at any given

00:07:05.740 time. It doesn't require any effort or commitment to use the apps and the user sort of swipes through

00:07:11.200 it very quickly, casually discarding potential matches based on nothing but a cursory glance at their

00:07:16.160 photograph. So all judgments are made visually, which already distorts the entire process because a

00:07:22.560 woman's romantic attraction is not naturally as visually based as a man's. And that's how a 0.64

00:07:29.480 slovenly ogre like myself ends up marrying a hot woman because a woman is attracted to personality,

00:07:36.040 sense of humor, intelligence, but little of that translates through an app, which means that many

00:07:42.260 quality mates are sent to the junk folder just because they're bad at taking selfies. Meanwhile, there are

00:07:48.000 far too many choices. So the modern dating scene is what happens when every beggar becomes a chooser. 0.99

00:07:54.360 Everyone is lonely and desperate for companionship, but the field is so flooded with options,

00:07:58.560 there's such a surplus that you begin to feel like, kind of like I feel when I'm in the condiment

00:08:04.120 aisle at Walmart trying to buy mustard. And there are 197 different types of mustard. And though all I

00:08:10.240 want is just regular mustard, the overwhelming array of options paralyzes me. And I'm just standing there

00:08:15.840 slack-jawed questioning whether I should be settling for just regular mustard when I could be getting 0.71

00:08:20.600 gourmet, Dijon, whole grain, honey, French, yellow, spicy, brown, white, yellow, German mustard instead.

00:08:26.260 All of modern life is plagued by this problem. Everything is plentiful and can be obtained

00:08:31.780 effortlessly and cheaply, but it's too plentiful and too effortless and too cheap. So you can turn on

00:08:38.200 your TV and watch literally any movie that's ever been made, any TV show that's ever been produced,

00:08:44.160 and yet how many nights have you wasted scrolling through the infinite catalog and then settling

00:08:48.740 on reruns of The Office because there's nothing else to watch? Well, there's plenty to watch. It's

00:08:54.260 just that you can't settle on any one thing because your awareness that there are billions of other

00:08:59.700 possibilities gives you anxiety, and it makes it so that you can never be sure that you're choosing

00:09:04.560 the absolute best option, which means that often you don't choose anything at all. So dating is like

00:09:10.020 this. Whereas before you had only the eligible single people in your town to choose from,

00:09:15.440 now you have the entire internet. You're not confined by geographic boundaries or any other

00:09:20.400 boundaries. The result, ironically, is paralysis. Now on the complete opposite end of this spectrum

00:09:26.420 are arranged marriages. Instead of a boundless, never-ending buffet of options, a young person in 0.89

00:09:32.080 a culture that practices arranged marriages will be assigned just one, and they don't even make the

00:09:36.900 choice. Their families just pair them up and say, here you go. There's far less freedom and far less

00:09:43.900 autonomy in a system of that sort, but it is without a doubt superior to our system. We would be happier.

00:09:52.100 Every person in the dating scene right now would be happier if they were just matched up with someone 0.60

00:09:55.780 against their will, actually. Of course, even after you settle on a match and you meet them in person,

00:10:04.060 a whole new set of problem arises. It would be impossible to review the whole list, but one of

00:10:09.700 the big problems is that if you're in the younger generations, you're meeting someone who was raised

00:10:15.460 on the internet just like you. Having spent their formative years staring at screens, they oftentimes

00:10:20.720 will not have developed the kind of interests and hobbies and rich interior life that could form the

00:10:27.320 basis for conversation and for interpersonal bonding. You also don't know where to go on a date or

00:10:33.080 what to do because nobody wants to do anything but stare at their phones. And as the relationship

00:10:37.760 progresses, if it does, you'll find that the internet also interferes with emotional intimacy

00:10:43.200 because there's nothing private or sacred between you. Private life doesn't exist anymore,

00:10:50.480 especially for younger people. People live their whole lives in public, sharing everything with the

00:10:55.800 world and leaving no parts of themselves emotionally or very often physically that are special or

00:11:02.020 exclusive for their significant other. And then there's the biggest hurdle of all, one which has

00:11:07.340 been standing in the way ever since the modern concept of dating was first invented decades ago,

00:11:12.800 but which has only grown larger and more insurmountable as the decades have gone by. And that is,

00:11:18.520 there's no goal with dating. There's no endpoint. There's no resolution. There's no logical progression.

00:11:23.600 So those women complain about getting ghosted by Caleb, but what are they really complaining about? 0.98

00:11:29.700 Did they see him as marriage material? Were they even looking for a man to marry? I'm guessing not.

00:11:35.820 And if not, then their relationship with Caleb was doomed to fall apart anyway, sooner than later,

00:11:41.060 just as all of their other relationships before and since have. What difference does it make if he

00:11:46.400 disappears after one date or if he sticks around and the whole thing dissolves after three months?

00:11:50.200 Who cares? You're just hopping into one car after another and each is going over a cliff. Does it

00:11:56.260 really matter if it tumbles over the edge after one mile or 10? The whole enterprise is so fundamentally

00:12:02.200 hopeless and pointless that if anything, the Calebs of the world do you a favor by wasting less of your 1.00

00:12:07.900 time. So here's the reality. There's no reason to be dating at all unless you're specifically looking

00:12:16.080 for somebody to marry. If you have no interest in marriage, then all of your romantic relationships

00:12:21.400 are doomed before they start. You're building sandcastles during high tide. It's all going to

00:12:26.720 be washed away before it can be finished. You're making a series of bad emotional investments,

00:12:32.880 pouring yourself into one leaky container after another. It's no wonder that marriage rates are 1.00

00:12:38.320 plummeting. People are exhausted by romantic relationships and jaded by the whole enterprise before

00:12:43.580 they even reach 25 years old because they've been betrayed and heartbroken and dumped and humiliated

00:12:49.180 enough for 50 lifetimes. That's what happens when you take the courtship out of dating. 0.97

00:12:56.920 Only solution is to put it back in. I mean, really forget about dating completely, in fact.

00:13:02.340 Replace dating with courting. Don't waste your time on people who have no goal for their relationship

00:13:07.420 because marriage should always be the desired endpoint. Courting is the trial period, the interview

00:13:13.380 process that both partners are undergoing. You're interviewing each other for the job.

00:13:19.100 If you approach it dating that way, it will significantly reduce your options.

00:13:23.780 That's for sure. But as we've seen, that's not necessarily a bad thing.

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00:14:51.500 Friday was what appeared to be, well on Friday we talked about the March for Life and it appeared

00:14:56.120 to be, I don't know what the official turnout numbers were for the March for Life, but it was,

00:15:00.560 if you look at the footage, it was incredible turnout as always. As we talked about on Friday,

00:15:05.100 this is 40 plus years running with the March for Life when they get hundreds of thousands of people

00:15:09.980 out. And they do it also during the coldest part of winter. And they do that because they want to

00:15:18.420 match it up with the anniversary of Roe v. Wade. They could move the March for Life to April or May,

00:15:23.440 and you could double the, probably the turnout. But these are all the people that are willing to go

00:15:29.820 to D.C. when it's freezing cold and be outside for hours at a time. When it's freezing cold,

00:15:38.660 oftentimes it's snowing, it's just sleet, whatever, all kinds of bad weather. And that was on Friday.

00:15:43.200 Okay. And then on Sunday, also in D.C., another massive rally, this time marching against vaccine

00:15:50.960 mandates and other forms of COVID-related tyranny. And here we have some footage of the crowd. Here's

00:15:57.520 what the crowd looked like. So we're here to rise above that. I think they, you pan, you see,

00:16:04.360 this looks like even bigger than the March for Life. This has got to be one of the biggest, look at this.

00:16:08.660 That's remarkable. Certainly one of the biggest political demonstrations that we've seen in D.C.

00:16:19.800 in several years at the very least. But the left showed up as well. And rather a pathetic turnout,

00:16:26.680 even more pathetic than the counter-protesters of the March for Life. So let's just watch. Here's a 0.99

00:16:32.980 random smattering of some pro-Fauci protesters. And let's hear what point they have to make or what

00:16:39.880 their position is. Let's listen. I love Fauci is what they have to say.

00:16:56.300 What? What? What? What? What? What? And these, remember, these are, these are people on the left.

00:17:02.260 They would pretend to be, uh, okay. They would pretend to be, you know, the part of the resistance.

00:17:08.840 They still consider themselves the resistance. They're, uh, you know, revolutionaries. They're

00:17:13.880 down with the system and all that kind of stuff. They still affect that kind of posture, but they're,

00:17:20.380 they're chanting. These are counter-protesters showing up to chant about how much they love a

00:17:25.520 government bureaucrat. How much they love the highest paid federal employee in American history.

00:17:32.780 This is what they've shown up to do. And, and yet they pretend to be, uh, critics of, of the system.

00:17:42.100 And it gets worse than that because some of these counter-protesters were even more aggressive.

00:17:45.600 And here's one woman who, um, showed up in a, in her van and, uh, she, she had a more, 0.99

00:17:53.500 she, she had a little bit more to say and let's, let's hear her out.

00:17:56.800 ...are going to pay for the police to shut down the road so that these white supremacists can party 1.00

00:18:08.080 and have a f***ing time celebrating their loser president! Loser Trump! Go the f***ing home! Stop invading our territory! Go the f***ing home! Take your loser president and shove him up your f***ing... 1.00

00:18:24.660 White supremacists, of course, and she's got, I don't know what's going on with her van. She has, uh, she's like a, she's, she's literally 1.00

00:18:32.040 in a serial killer van with handprints. The handprints of all of her victims are on the, uh, you can see the, you can see handprints on the windows

00:18:39.680 of people clawing to get out.

00:18:43.720 And, uh, on her way to murder her next round of victims, she, she, she decided to stop and yell at all the, um, at all the, the protesters there 0.97

00:18:50.440 because, of course, they're all, they're all white supremacists. And yet, plenty on the left, this is how they, they feel about it 0.82

00:18:56.900 and they're, they're sticking to this. But there's been this shift as well that's happened, especially over the last, you know, few months

00:19:04.240 and, and in particular over the last couple of weeks. So here's a clip from, um, from Bill Maher's show, Real Time with Bill Maher

00:19:11.880 that went massively viral over the weekend. Barry Weiss, she's a former New York Times writer

00:19:16.660 who was exiled and sort of excommunicated by the left for some of her views, but she's certainly still

00:19:24.400 not, she's, she's not on the right. I don't think she would call herself a conservative, but, um, she, she showed up 0.92

00:19:30.220 on Bill Maher and she's been getting a lot of credits from some conservatives for, uh, saying this. Let's listen.

00:19:36.220 I'm done with COVID. I'm done. It's like, I, I went so hard on COVID. I sprayed the Pringles cans that I bought

00:19:44.380 at the grocery store, stripped my clothes off because I thought COVID would be on my clothes.

00:19:48.860 Like I did it all. I watched Tiger King. I've got to the end of Spotify. Like we all did it, right?

00:19:55.780 No, no, we didn't all do it. Okay, cool. Well, here's the thing. A lot of us, a lot of us did do

00:20:00.200 it. And then we were told you get the vaccine, you get the vaccine and you get back to normal.

00:20:06.560 And we haven't gotten back to normal. And it's ridiculous at this point.

00:20:11.900 I know that so many of my liberal and progressive friends are with me on this and they do not want

00:20:17.860 to say it out loud because they are scared to be called anti-vax or to be called science denial or

00:20:24.300 to be, you know, smeared as a Trumper. I'm sorry. If you believe the science, you will look at the data

00:20:30.620 that we did not have two years ago and you will find out that cloth masks do not do anything.

00:20:37.300 You will realize that you can show your vaccine passport at a restaurant and still be asymptomatic 0.99

00:20:43.780 and carrying Omicron. And you will realize most importantly, that this is going to be remembered

00:20:48.720 by the younger generation as a catastrophic moral crime. The city of Flint, Michigan, which is 80%,

00:20:56.620 I think minority students has just announced indefinite virtual schooling. In the past two years,

00:21:02.060 we've seen among young girls, a 51% increase in self-harm. People are killing themselves.

00:21:08.420 They are anxious. They are depressed. They are lonely. That is why we need to end it more than

00:21:13.500 any inconvenience that it's been to the rest of us. I think

00:21:16.060 applause for that. And she says, we all, we all did this. We're spraying the Pringle cans. First

00:21:27.880 of all, we didn't all do that at any point. Did we, did we all do that? And I can remember

00:21:34.500 when this all first started, you know, March, 2020 going to the grocery store. And there was still

00:21:41.080 at that time, a lot that, uh, that we didn't know about COVID especially, or at least there was,

00:21:45.480 there was in terms of what we had officially been told that it wasn't, there wasn't very much.

00:21:49.960 Um, so that we were, we were all kind of in the dark and that's used as an excuse by those who bought

00:21:55.520 into the panic and the hype. Um, even the ones who bought into it for two years, you know, it's one

00:22:02.520 thing if you were a little freaked out for a couple of weeks and then you kind of started to see what was

00:22:05.940 going on, but people, you know, there are people for years that were doing this. But I can remember early on,

00:22:10.820 going to the grocery store and everybody's in masks and, uh, you know, people are like at the

00:22:16.140 grocery store, spraying down their, their produce and all this, gloves and everything on. And, uh,

00:22:22.000 in, in that was, that was back when, uh, and maybe there are people who still do this where you're

00:22:26.180 supposed to quarantine your groceries before you bring them in the house. You know, you keep them on,

00:22:31.680 uh, outside for a day so that the virus dies, you know? And I remember thinking,

00:22:38.300 you know, I doubt that it actually works this way. I doubt that the virus is so contagious

00:22:46.600 that you have to disinfect your groceries before you bring them in the house.

00:22:53.320 I doubt it. I mean, at the time I can't, I can't say for sure that it's not true. I mean,

00:22:57.480 I don't, I don't really know. I doubt it. But then I also thought, well, even if that's true,

00:23:03.720 like, if that's how deadly and contagious this thing is, that you have to disinfect your,

00:23:09.860 your, uh, produce, you got to spray down the Pringles, you got to take out, open up your box

00:23:16.440 of cereal and wipe each individual, uh, frosted flake with a Lysol wipe. If it's that contagious,

00:23:22.980 then we're doomed anyway. There's, there's just no point in even, in even trying then society's

00:23:29.080 doomed if that's the case. So that was the calculation I made very early on and decided

00:23:35.040 to basically not adjust my life at all, except in the ways that I was absolutely forced to,

00:23:39.980 because I couldn't go to a lot of places because they were shut down. But other than that, I just

00:23:43.040 lived my life as I always had. Uh, and there were a lot of people that did the same thing.

00:23:47.180 And so now we're listening to people like Barry Weiss. And, um, first of all, they, it's a little bit

00:23:52.000 frustrating because they try to frame it as, Oh, we all did this. We were all wiping down the Pringles

00:23:56.080 can. No, no, we didn't all do it. That was you. It wasn't all of us, but it's two years later.

00:24:04.460 And she's not the only one people on the, you know, I guess we would call center left

00:24:07.820 to, to the extent that the center left even exists anymore. Uh, and, and really it doesn't exist

00:24:13.180 because the left has anyone that's still on the center. They consider you to be on the right.

00:24:17.180 If you're to the right of them, you're just on the right. And that's all. And that's why they're

00:24:20.960 going to exile you as they have with Barry Weiss. But the extent that she's on the center left,

00:24:23.820 she's, she's had this, this awakening moment two years into it, which, which is, which is good,

00:24:28.580 right? It is better late than never. Um, what she said, what she just said there is good and

00:24:33.880 important. And I'm glad that it was said, but it is frustrating, um, to those of us who have been

00:24:39.800 saying it all along, not just because not, not just for ego reasons where we want credit for being

00:24:45.080 right. It's not that it's that the damage has been done. You see, in so many ways.

00:24:51.420 Now there's more damage that could be done if, if, if this stuff is continued. And so it's good to

00:24:59.140 stop the bleeding, but a lot of blood's been spilled already, metaphorically speaking, and

00:25:05.340 sometimes not, not so metaphorically when you look at the suicide rate and everything else.

00:25:10.100 So a lot of damage has been done that is simply just done.

00:25:15.580 And in a lot of ways, it's probably true to say that our society is never going to completely go

00:25:19.840 back to normal because of how profoundly twisted it's been by this and how people's brains have

00:25:26.680 been and minds have been, uh, mutated by living in this environment of overwhelming, suffocating fear

00:25:36.180 for years. So the damage has been done. And in some ways for some of this is too late.

00:25:42.220 You can't put a mask on a kid for two years, shut down school, do all of this, isolate them

00:25:50.760 for the people that have done that to their kids. You can't do that for two years and then say,

00:25:56.400 you know, I've had enough of this. I'm done with COVID. Take the mask off and then say to a little

00:26:00.820 junior, everything's okay. Pat him on the head. Go, uh, go, go be a normal child again. Just forget 0.99

00:26:04.820 about the last two years. Doesn't work that way. These are as formative years. I mean, kids are,

00:26:12.040 are sponges. They pick up everything that's happening around them. They pick up a lot of

00:26:19.520 things you don't want them to pick up. You know, I was, I was driving with my, with my two-year-old

00:26:24.500 the other day and I missed a turn and I just, I muttered like it just came out. I muttered an

00:26:29.000 expletive under my breath because I missed it. I didn't even say it loudly. And it, one of those

00:26:33.260 things, it happens as a parent. It comes out. It was a, I muttered it because I was frustrated.

00:26:37.000 And then what do I hear my two-year-old in the back set repeating me and she repeating it like

00:26:42.360 10 times in a row, right? This is what kids do. They pick up on everything around them in their

00:26:46.980 environment. They're very, very observed, observant, um, especially in their formative

00:26:50.220 years that they have to be this way. You know, biologically it's programmed this way. Uh,

00:26:56.240 and so think about all of the toxic,

00:26:58.540 the toxic messages that they have absorbed into their psyche. There may be no way to reverse the

00:27:07.140 effect for a lot of these kids, unfortunately. So what do we do with, um, somebody like Barry Weiss,

00:27:13.440 people on the left, Bill Maher, you know, who are, uh, speaking some truth about, about this issue.

00:27:18.640 Now there are some on the right is, Hey, yeah, they're, they're champions for our cause. Let's, uh,

00:27:23.160 let's celebrate them and, you know, put them on the chair and lift them up and dance around the room.

00:27:28.540 Um, and then there are others on the, on the other side of the, on the right who say, well,

00:27:32.140 no, it's too little, too late. Sorry, we got no use for you. I kind of take a middle approach

00:27:38.800 where I will embrace an alliance with someone on a particular issue in order to achieve some

00:27:48.100 worthwhile cultural goal. I think that's a smart, it's a smart battle strategy,

00:27:52.640 but what we can't do is celebrate them as conservative champions. And that's, that's the

00:27:59.060 balance that we've often not been able to strike as conservatives. And so this also, this happens a

00:28:05.280 lot when some celebrity, what was it with Nicki Minaj? A few for, for a period of time for about

00:28:10.900 48 hours, a few months ago, Nicki Minaj was the conservative champion. And I don't even remember

00:28:15.860 what it was, but she said something, it might've been cancel culture or something like that. She,

00:28:19.120 she made some comment in like an Instagram video as saying something that conservatives agree with.

00:28:24.320 And there were a lot of conservatives. Ah, yeah, let's, let's, let's invite her to CPAC. 0.99

00:28:28.040 Maybe she should, maybe she should run for president. We'll put her on the ticket with Trump. 1.00

00:28:32.420 Because she said one thing. No, the, the better approach is that she's right about this. And guess

00:28:39.720 what, Nicki Minaj, whatever this issue is, if you want to fight alongside us on this issue,

00:28:43.620 fantastic. Um, on this particular issue, but you're not a, you're not a conservative hero because of

00:28:49.740 it. So that's what I would do with this. It's the same thing with gender. You know, after the Dr.

00:28:54.060 Phil segment, I have, um, I've heard from a lot of feminists, like left-wing feminists. 1.00

00:29:02.420 Who are, and if you go to some of the, some people sent me links to some of these feminists, 1.00

00:29:06.440 uh, forums and boards and stuff, and it can be funny because they don't know what exactly to do

00:29:11.280 about this. Um, because they agree with everything I was saying about, about gender, but then they're 0.92

00:29:16.460 looking into the other things that I've said about feminism itself and how it's a cancer and like the

00:29:21.340 worst thing that's ever happened to human civilization. And so they're not as sure exactly what to do.

00:29:25.120 But my approach to them is, Hey, if you want to work on, on, um, on beating back this gender 1.00

00:29:32.660 madness, I'm, I'm with you on that. Great. We're not, we're not friends. We're not really on the

00:29:40.120 same side generally, but on this issue, we can be for, for a particular goal that we have in mind.

00:29:46.080 Um, good. That's my approach. Um, one other note on this, I want to play this Kathy Hokeel.

00:29:54.420 She's the, uh, governor up in New York and she, she has not yet. She's not ready. She's not done

00:30:00.760 with COVID. Uh, she of course is not done with it. And she says, Hey, look, the kids can wear masks

00:30:05.140 forever and it's no big deal because, uh, the kids, they, they can adapt. Let's listen.

00:30:09.540 Regarding the mask mandates, I want to know if the state has a particular number, whether that be like

00:30:15.520 a test positivity rate or a hospitalization rate that when we go under that, the mask mandates

00:30:20.380 will be lifted or is the state playing that by year? We're not playing it by year. We're going to be

00:30:25.940 driven by data and look at what we, what our situation was prior to the mandates and assess,

00:30:32.600 was that the right number to go back to? I can't say with certainty, but that is a starting point to

00:30:37.800 look at the number before we instituted these. We instituted these because we saw the storm

00:30:42.700 coming our way. We watched the global trends. We saw how quickly this escalated upward in other

00:30:49.160 countries like England and South Africa. And we knew that could hit us. That's why we took steps 0.99

00:30:54.020 literally the day, the first case arrived in New York state, which was December 2nd and announced

00:31:00.680 these, the first series of restrictions on going up for the next couple of weeks. So I think about this

00:31:06.960 a lot. I'm not going to operate in a vacuum. We're going to have data and experts and people who know

00:31:12.820 a lot about what the next trends are, but I am really looking forward to lifting them. I truly am.

00:31:19.220 I know people are tired, but I also, I'll say one thing about the kids.

00:31:23.440 My daughter had a meltdown over having to put sneakers on to go to kindergarten. 1.00

00:31:27.260 She got used to wearing sneakers in school. They just, they adapt better than adults do.

00:31:32.480 And I'm really proud of the parents who made sure that their kids understood this is very safe.

00:31:39.340 They adapt. It's like wearing, you know, the difference between a mask and shoes for kids

00:31:44.200 at school is that shoes are necessary. It's, it's necessary to wear shoes. And, uh, it's also,

00:31:53.180 it's also, it's a real safety issue wearing shoes because you step on a glass or a nail or something.

00:31:58.120 You're going to be glad you had shoes on. That's the difference. Now kids that are wearing a mask

00:32:06.520 without complaint. And I've talked about this before, cause I've seen, I've seen it myself and

00:32:11.340 we all have observed this shift taking place. Hopefully not with our own kids. I haven't

00:32:16.160 observed it with my own kids because my kids don't wear a mask and, and I've never required them to do

00:32:19.660 it. Um, but I've observed it kind of in society where again, early on you go to the grocery store,

00:32:27.160 you go around and you see kids wearing the mask and they're pulling it down and they're fidgeting

00:32:31.120 and their parents are fussing with them and say, keep the mask on. And these days, if you go to a

00:32:36.140 place where they're still masking kids, you don't see that. Um, for the most part, you see the kid,

00:32:41.980 the kids, they're wearing the mask, basically how it's supposed to be worn and they're not

00:32:46.660 messing with it very much. And they just keep it on. And you hear from parents who are very proud

00:32:51.340 of this. They said, I sent my six-year-old to school and he wears a mask for seven hours and it's not

00:32:56.080 a problem. Oh, he's adapted. Now that's not, that's not adaptation. That is, um, that's damage.

00:33:04.140 He's been damaged. He's been beaten down. I use the analogy before of a child who suffers physical

00:33:11.660 abuse at home. And this is a form of physical abuse and emotional and psychological abuse,

00:33:17.060 but a child who suffers abuse at home, maybe a abuse victim gets to a point where he barely even

00:33:24.300 reacts to the abuse, at least visibly, you know, externally. Does that mean he's adapted to it?

00:33:34.600 No, it means that the, the abuse has settled deep down into his, into his psyche, into his mind.

00:33:40.940 It means that that's how deep the damage is now for this child. And it's the same thing with the

00:33:46.220 masking stuff. All right. One other note is from the daily wire. Um, we might be on the cusp of

00:33:53.320 world war three. So on this show, world war three goes down to like the last it's in the middle of

00:33:58.480 the show at the end of a segment. I'll just throw it in there. Every other show, you're going to lead

00:34:03.240 with it. This is one of the reasons why, I mean, there are a lot of reasons why I don't want world

00:34:06.360 war three to happen. Many reasons. Um, but you know, on the list far down, but on the list is also

00:34:13.300 that, uh, I don't want to have to talk about it every single day on the show. Um, and I also don't

00:34:18.040 want to be the one show that just ignore world war three is happening. And, uh, and you know,

00:34:21.620 I ignore it. We're talking about dating, you know, instead on this show, anyway, this is from the

00:34:25.800 daily wire. It says Democrat president, Joe Biden is considering deploying us forces to Eastern

00:34:30.980 Europe as Russia is reportedly preparing to invade Ukraine at any moment. Biden is considering the

00:34:35.780 deployment of several thousand us troops, as well as warships and aircraft to NATO allies in the

00:34:41.120 Baltics and, um, Eastern Europe and expansion of American military involvement amid mounting fears

00:34:46.420 of a Russian incursion into Ukraine. The move would signal a major pivot for the Biden administration,

00:34:51.340 which up until recently was taking a restrained stance on Ukraine at a fear of provoking Russia

00:34:55.780 into invading. Okay. Just a couple of quick things I'll say about this. First of all, uh, the idea

00:35:01.500 that a leader, a national leader would send his country to war because his poll numbers are down

00:35:10.220 because he's unpopular. You know, that's not by, that's not by any means a far-fetched idea. This

00:35:16.860 history is replete with examples of that happening. There's a long history of that.

00:35:22.740 There's a, there's a lot of precedent for it. So would Joe Biden actually get us into a war with

00:35:30.280 Russia because he's sitting at 30% in the approval ratings and he wants to change the subject.

00:35:36.060 And he also knows historically that, uh, what happens with, what happens with the polls,

00:35:40.980 with presidents, when they go to war, typically they see a boost in polls, people, you know,

00:35:44.580 kind of on both sides rally behind the president. So would Biden actually do that? Absolutely. He

00:35:51.300 would. But remember for these people, the, the only thing they care about is their own political

00:35:57.640 future and their own power. And they've also convinced themselves that that's for the greater good.

00:36:03.060 And, you know, they've convinced themselves, they've convinced themselves, the people,

00:36:06.960 maybe not Joe Biden himself personally, because he's, he has lost his mind, but the people who

00:36:12.460 are really pulling the strings, people in his administration and the Biden regime, they've

00:36:16.420 also convinced themselves that the world needs them there. And so whatever they have to do to

00:36:22.440 remain in power, it's, it's really, it's for the greater good. It's for everybody's sake.

00:36:26.380 And if that means that tens of thousands, a hundred thousand people have to die in a war,

00:36:30.400 a pointless war, that's fine. It's for the greater good. As long as it, as long as it helps their

00:36:34.120 political future, that's the way they look at it. So for me with Ukraine, it's, it's very,

00:36:38.820 I don't pretend to be, um, you know, a foreign policy analyst by any means, but for me, it's pretty

00:36:45.120 simple. Um, Ukraine is its own country and, uh, it's not our country. And so I don't want to go to 1.00

00:36:58.840 war to protect it. And like I told you, it's, it's pretty damn simple for me. You know, we have our

00:37:05.980 own borders that we're not protecting and we have, uh, we have, we have, uh, violence and, and, uh,

00:37:13.040 we have all kinds of, we have our own war down at the border that we're not actually, it's really

00:37:16.480 one-sided because we're not participating in it. So the idea that we're going to go, we're going to go

00:37:20.780 6,000 miles away. We're going to go six to a country that's on the other side of the world,

00:37:26.420 6,000 miles away and send our own sons and now daughters as well to die on foreign soil,

00:37:32.920 to protect, to protect the borders of another country of Ukraine. I mean, you know, one thing

00:37:42.120 I've heard from, uh, from, from people talking about this a little bit on Twitter and, um, you know,

00:37:46.780 I've gotten the whole thing of, uh, well, Ukraine, it's, they want freedom and they want democracy.

00:37:51.900 And think about the people of Ukraine and what, okay, well then they can fight for their country.

00:37:57.080 They can fight for their own future. That's fantastic. What about the people here?

00:38:02.820 I mean, how many, maybe we could do a poll on this. How many parents want to send their children

00:38:08.500 to Ukraine to die on Ukrainian soil to protect Ukraine? How many parents will feel like their,

00:38:15.720 their, their children's lives were, were, uh, were lost in the pursuit of something worthwhile.

00:38:22.420 If that were to happen, how many parents are, are, are, would be okay with that in this country?

00:38:30.400 You know, as far as I'm concerned, this is Europe's problem. If they don't have the will

00:38:33.660 to protect their own borders and to, and then, then that's, that's, that's their issue.

00:38:40.740 It is, it's insane to me that after all of this time, I mean, I get why the people in power,

00:38:45.200 again, I understand why they want to do it. I don't agree with it. It's, it's evil. It's terrible.

00:38:48.740 I understand though. It's, it is for them. It's really self-preservation,

00:38:52.420 but if just normal Americans who are not in positions of power,

00:38:57.420 and I would like to see the poll numbers on this. I'm, I'm thinking that a war with Russia 1.00

00:39:01.800 would be very unpopular and I'm, I'm sure there have been polling, been polling already done on

00:39:05.340 it. Maybe I'd look at that, but I can't understand how any Americans could, who, who have lived 1.00

00:39:11.340 through the past several decades would still have any appetite for going overseas and losing

00:39:20.140 thousands of lives and trillions of dollars to protect democracy in countries that are not our own.

00:39:28.960 All right, let's get now to the comment section.

00:39:36.500 And you can always leave us a video comment at dailywire.com slash sweet baby comments. And I

00:39:51.480 don't think we have, do we have any, we don't have any video comments queued up, do we? Well, look,

00:39:54.700 it's a Monday. Not everything is in proper working order at this point. Uh, but you can leave those

00:40:00.860 video comments. We'll have to go. We'll have to stick with just the boring written comments for

00:40:04.160 today. Um, EJ Jeremiah says it's so insane how intolerant their side is there. They literally

00:40:10.160 are saying how dare Dr. Phil not just be propaganda for their side. Leslie says Dr. Phil had three woke

00:40:17.160 pro trans people against one Matt Walsh. How was that unfair? Maybe unfair to Matt, except Matt won on all

00:40:22.960 points. Yeah, it is, it is pretty incredible to think about. I'm still not quite over that,

00:40:27.980 over that, that, uh, I was sitting there on stage and for much of the discussion, it was three against

00:40:33.540 one, including a studio audience. Really? It was, uh, it was what, you know, 70 against one or

00:40:38.620 something, whatever the studio audience was. So three against one on stage plus a studio audience

00:40:42.460 that was not on my side. And that is, that is really a hurdle in a debate like this.

00:40:47.680 When, when the other side gets all the applause lines in terms of optics, it's hard to overcome

00:40:54.480 the optics. When someone says, this is one of the reasons why traditionally in sitcoms, they always

00:40:59.100 have a laugh track because it's easy. You can be influenced into thinking that a joke was funny if

00:41:04.120 everybody else is laughing at it. And it's the same thing with a debate. If one side is getting

00:41:08.300 all the applause and then you make a point and there's just, there's just silence. You make a really

00:41:13.880 good point. And then you look around, it's total stone cold silence. Um, optically that's hard to

00:41:19.320 get over. So they had all of that on their side. And yet at the end of the debate, they're the ones

00:41:25.960 complaining that they were ganged up on, you know, 50 against one they were ganged up on and they're

00:41:31.780 the victims of bullying. It is a pretty incredible. The other comments is Matt, you have to admit that

00:41:37.320 guy on Dr. Phil had great hair. Yeah. The non-binary, you know what? Funny enough, I was watching this 1.00

00:41:42.900 episode with my wife and I don't usually watch my own. I don't, I don't usually watch anything that

00:41:47.700 I'm in with other people. I'll watch it, but always by myself. I'll watch it like, um, like a football

00:41:53.080 player watches game tape, kind of picking myself apart, figuring out what I did wrong, but I don't

00:41:57.440 sit down with other people to watch stuff that I'm in. Um, but I made an exception, you know, in this

00:42:02.620 case, because my wife insisted. So we sat down and watched it. And, uh, my wife was disturbed

00:42:06.440 like everybody else by the sight of the people that I was on stage with. But in spite of that,

00:42:13.540 the very first thing she said when the episode started, the very first thing that she made note

00:42:17.340 of was that the guy with the beard and the dress had really nice hair. And so she remarked on that

00:42:21.720 a couple of times raving about his hair. And that is really, it's another profound demonstration of

00:42:26.820 the difference between men and women, because women will always comment on nice hair, no matter whose

00:42:33.060 hair it is, no matter the situation, it's, it's biologically ingrained. They can't stop themselves.

00:42:38.820 My wife, she could be in the process of getting murdered by a serial killer, by that woman in the 1.00

00:42:43.340 van with the, with all the handprints. And if the killer had nice hair, my wife would still take a 1.00

00:42:50.160 second to say, Hey, sorry, this is awkward, but you have great hair. What kind of shampoo do you use?

00:42:55.800 It's a good thing that Hitler didn't have nice hair because I think women would be getting themselves 1.00

00:42:58.620 in a lot of trouble constantly kind of remarking on it. Um, and then I'm all, I'm on the other end

00:43:02.700 of the spectrum because I don't notice someone's hair could be on fire in front of me. I don't

00:43:06.300 think I would notice it. So yesterday we were going out somewhere and my wife was complaining

00:43:11.780 that, that her, her hair looked terrible. She was having a bad hair day or something.

00:43:15.480 And I thought it looked perfectly fine. So she said, Oh no, I gotta, I gotta take care of it.

00:43:19.120 So she went into the bathroom to go get ready and she was gone for two hours getting ready.

00:43:24.020 And she came out and she was so happy that her hair had been fixed. And she said, look at my hair now.

00:43:27.940 And it looked exactly the same to me. So I don't, and I don't know what she was doing in there.

00:43:33.880 Like, did she watch each follicle individually with shampoo? I'm not sure. Looked great. Just,

00:43:38.840 just, you know, the same. Um, let's see. Igor says, I distinctly remember Matt saying he would

00:43:47.940 write his own slam poetry when his channel reached 500,000 subscribers. A few comments pointing that

00:43:54.480 out. I had no, I have no memory of making that promise. I don't know why I would make,

00:43:59.440 I promised to do slam poetry. Why would I, why would I promise that of all things?

00:44:05.460 What was I drunk? I might've been drunk during that episode. I don't, I don't drink before the

00:44:08.800 show, but maybe that one, maybe that's why I don't remember it. Um, okay. Well, here's the thing.

00:44:14.820 I said, once we reached 500,000, but we kind of blew past that. And now we're at 550,000.

00:44:21.800 Um, so it's too late. I think now, unfortunately, as much as I would love to, you know, as much as I

00:44:27.700 would love to hold on my end of the bargain, it's really, I said, what I said, once we're at,

00:44:31.140 or didn't I say that once we're at 500,000, I do the slam poetry, but now we're at 550.

00:44:37.540 And so I can't do it. We'll, we'll look at 600,000, maybe, you know what? A million. I'm, I'm,

00:44:43.820 I'm removing the goalpost. Let's get to a million and I will have my own, uh, my,

00:44:51.800 very own poetry that I will recite for you at 1 million. Unless I think of another excuse not to

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00:45:31.680 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:45:37.360 So today we cancel Forrest Bennett, who's a democratic lawmaker in Oklahoma who had, uh,

00:45:42.040 had what he thought was a brilliant idea last week. He tweeted out triumphantly.

00:45:47.080 This week I filed HB 3129, which codifies that a father's financial responsibility to his baby and

00:45:53.180 their mother begins at conception. If Oklahoma is going to restrict a woman's right to choose, 1.00

00:45:57.500 we sure better make sure that the men involved can't just walk away from their responsibilities.

00:46:02.880 Now this was meant to be a dunk on the evil pro-lifers who Forrest believed only opposed abortion

00:46:08.200 because of their deep hatred for women. He believed this despite the fact that the pro-life movement

00:46:13.280 is led primarily by women. Just go watch the March for Life. Watch the footage.

00:46:17.880 What about those women? Well, they must all be self-hating misanthropes, he decided. 1.00

00:46:21.940 Because to the left, the self-hating women are the ones who oppose abortion, you know, 1.00

00:46:27.180 not the ones who say cut their breasts off and try to become men. No, they're not, 0.99

00:46:30.920 they're not self-hating. It's, it's, it's the women who don't want to kill babies. 1.00

00:46:34.040 They're the self-hating ones. In any case, Forrest attempted dunk. Unfortunately for him,

00:46:39.720 hit the back of the rim, bounced back out while Forrest fell to the court, broke his arm and the

00:46:44.940 whole stadium pointed and laughed. He thought that the right would shake their fists violently and

00:46:50.840 say, you know, damn you Forrest, you foiled our patriarchal plot. But instead conservatives all 0.99

00:46:57.040 supported the bill. Everyone on the right on social media, they were all saying, this is great.

00:47:01.460 I love it. Thank you. After all, our position is that babies are human beings with rights

00:47:07.660 and that parents should be required to care for their children or else find someone who will care

00:47:12.320 for them. You owe that to your child. Your child is entitled to be cared for. We have a lot of

00:47:19.880 entitlements in our culture today. We hear a lot about what people are entitled to. Well, here's one

00:47:24.080 example of an actual entitlement. Your child is entitled to be taken care of. You have that

00:47:30.920 responsibility to your child. And again, if you can't fulfill that responsibility or don't want

00:47:35.440 to, then you find someone who will. What you cannot do is abandon them or certainly kill them 0.98

00:47:43.580 outright. That's our position. Now, of course, of course we think that this principle should apply 0.99

00:47:49.300 to men as well. In fact, a bill that codifies a father's financial responsibility to his baby

00:47:54.840 in the womb also codifies that the baby in the womb is in fact a baby. He's a person, a legal entity

00:48:02.620 who is owed certain basic legal protections. Why wouldn't we support that? Forrest could only look

00:48:09.640 around in horror as the people he was trying to anger with his bill instead cheered him on while

00:48:13.940 the people he was trying to impress instead were angry. So a day later, he tweeted this follow-up. He

00:48:18.500 said, well, this has been fun. I appreciate those who understood the message behind this bill and

00:48:24.020 those who provided sincere, constructive feedback and pointed out serious issues with practical

00:48:28.560 application. Also a great way to be reminded that 280 characters isn't enough for some discussions.

00:48:33.960 I'm muting this now because I've read most, if not all of the comments, and I hear those who came

00:48:38.220 here to help me understand angles to this that I hadn't considered. I also hear those who came here

00:48:43.200 just to be mean or condescending. And hey, it's Twitter. What was I expecting?

00:48:46.920 Let me get this out of the way. By the way, the mean people were all just the ones who said it's a

00:48:51.140 good bill and they like it. But that's mean because it's the people that it's the wrong people. He

00:48:55.700 didn't want those people to be supported. He continues, let me get this out of the way.

00:49:00.880 Obviously, I'm not moving forward with this bill as written. I'm glad many of you understood the idea,

00:49:06.060 but it clearly needs work. So to actual constituents of mine who requested that I go back to the drawing

00:49:11.140 board, I hear you. Now, what can we learn from this aside from the fact that Forrest

00:49:16.640 Bennett is a stupid, pathetic, little embarrassing goober who wrote a bill just to troll his 1.00

00:49:21.040 opponents, but instead trolled his own side by accident? I think the most important lesson is 1.00

00:49:29.400 this, aside from the fact that he's stupid and embarrassing. The second maybe is the fact that 1.00

00:49:34.820 the pro-abortion side and the left, broadly speaking, has so thoroughly insulated itself,

00:49:41.260 so completely hidden itself in its own cocoon that the people on that side have come to actually

00:49:47.100 believe the straw men that they've constructed. They're buying into their own hype. It's hard to

00:49:53.880 fathom this as someone who lives in reality, but many pro-aborts do really think that the anti-abortion

00:49:59.900 side is motivated by nothing but animosity for women. Now, it's not that they've been fooled into

00:50:05.700 thinking this by some outside force. They fooled themselves. Forrest Bennett thought that pro-lifers

00:50:12.260 would have a problem with requiring men to care for their children, even though we're the ones who 1.00

00:50:16.720 are always talking about the problem of fatherless homes. We're the ones always calling for men to 1.00

00:50:21.660 take responsibility. Our whole point, again, is that babies are people and their parents have a duty to

00:50:27.580 care for them. So how could the other side come to actually believe that the pro-life position is all

00:50:34.600 just a smokescreen and our real intention is to enslave women? Well, partly it's stupidity and 1.00

00:50:40.760 intellectual laziness, but also it's a kind of emotional self-preservation, I think. 1.00

00:50:45.740 Their own position is so morally hideous and they are so clearly and deeply in the wrong

00:50:52.380 that they wouldn't be able to face themselves or sleep at night if they allowed themselves to engage

00:50:57.660 honestly with the opposing viewpoint. Their only choice is to make a cartoon out of us.

00:51:02.580 They have to retreat into fantasy. Otherwise, they would notice the bloodstains on their hands

00:51:08.260 and the mountain of dead bodies that they're standing on. They can't handle that confrontation

00:51:13.360 with reality until reality forces itself to be seen and to be known, as happened to poor Forrest

00:51:20.560 Bennett, who is today, of course, for that reason, finally canceled. And we'll leave it there for

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Ep. 879 - Why The Modern Dating Scene Is A Toxic Wasteland

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