The Matt Walsh Show - April 04, 2022


Ep. 922 - The Shocking Case That Reveals The True Horrors Of Abortion


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Pro-abortion activist group Pro-Life Action News obtained photos of the bodies of five unborn children who had been murdered at an abortion clinic in Washington, D.C. Pro-abortion activists claim that the government is covering up the crime and refusing to press charges.

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00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, horrific photographic evidence suggests that a prominent abortion clinic in D.C. is killing babies after they're born, but the D.C. government is running cover for the clinic and refusing to investigate.
00:00:10.260 We'll discuss also Elon Musk buys a big stake in Twitter, and liberal female journalists cry about being traumatized by mean comments on the Internet. 0.99
00:00:18.400 The Daily Wire gets a mention on SNL, and Brian Stelter on CNN shocks no one by coming out in defense of child groomers.
00:00:24.980 In our Daily Cancellation, a conservative pro-life website criticizes me for my Dr. Phil appearance. Why? Well, I read the article, and I'm still not sure.
00:00:31.760 We'll talk about that, all of that, and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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00:01:42.600 One of the consequences of spending time on social media is that you're likely to encounter, without warning, as you mindlessly scroll along, images of violence and death.
00:01:52.340 It's always unsettling to see such things, of course, but it's all the more jarring and, after a while, desensitizing to see them out of nowhere,
00:01:59.100 sandwiched in between, like, a news article about the Grammys and a gif of a cat or something.
00:02:04.760 Death becomes just another bit of content in this context, floating by on the endless river of content.
00:02:10.820 Early last week, we saw a prime example of this kind of thing, when footage of a 14-year-old boy falling to his death from an Orlando theme park ride started making the rounds.
00:02:21.420 Terrible tragedy.
00:02:22.440 I happened across the video without knowing what it was or why it was posted, and like millions of other people.
00:02:28.080 I watched the boy fall, heard his body hit the ground, something that none of us needed to see or should have seen, but we saw it.
00:02:37.120 On Friday, many of us were again confronted with images that we did not bargain for, even amid all the brutality and despair casually posted to social media platforms every day.
00:02:48.000 These stood out.
00:02:49.500 They are, in fact, the worst things I think I've ever seen.
00:02:52.520 Wish I hadn't seen them.
00:02:53.500 Yet, in this case, they are images that we actually should see, as much as we might be haunted and sickened by them.
00:03:00.720 Lila Rose, president of the pro-life organization Live Action, posted photos of five unborn children who had been aborted in D.C.
00:03:08.520 in an abortion clinic operated by Dr., quote-unquote, Cesar Santangelo.
00:03:13.580 The bodies of the victims were obtained by a group called Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising, which is a pro-life activist group,
00:03:21.020 who report that they obtained them from a whistleblower inside the clinic, and they then contacted the D.C. Homicide Unit about the bodies.
00:03:30.560 Now, according to this group and sources who spoke to Live Action,
00:03:33.760 at least some of these children may have been aborted after they were born, infanticide,
00:03:39.680 or may have been subjected to an illegal partial birth abortion.
00:03:43.360 Here's more from Live Action.
00:03:44.620 It says,
00:03:44.980 Physician experts have told Live Action News that five aborted children in a D.C. apartment appeared to have been viable human beings,
00:03:52.220 raising questions about potential legal and serious ethical violations by the abortion clinic.
00:03:57.160 Dr. Robin Perucci, a neonatal specialist, told Live Action News,
00:04:00.940 I can say with confidence that these babies died at an age when they were viable, premature people.
00:04:07.020 In her Friday morning comments, she noted that she was going to work in a NICU where she would, quote,
00:04:12.280 care for little ones this size and age.
00:04:15.040 Now, all you have to do is look at the images, which I'm not going to show you here, but you can easily find them,
00:04:19.800 and you can see that these were fully formed infant children.
00:04:24.800 The very advanced stage of development, as well as the injuries you can visibly see on their bodies,
00:04:30.940 along with the report from the clinic whistleblower, all lend credence to the claim that a federal crime was committed.
00:04:38.720 This looks like Gosnell all over again, Gosnell 2.0.
00:04:42.640 And as with Gosnell, who was able to operate his house of horrors in Philadelphia for decades without consequence,
00:04:49.420 I mean, in his case, literally blood smattered, smeared on the walls, dead bodies in refrigerators and that sort of thing,
00:04:59.380 just an absolute horror show.
00:05:02.300 And it was like that for decades in the middle of a major American city.
00:05:07.460 City officials had little interest in getting involved.
00:05:09.840 And the same thing is happening here.
00:05:12.640 The Washington Post reports this morning,
00:05:14.500 the city medical examiner does not plan at this time to perform autopsies on the five, quote, unquote, fetuses
00:05:20.500 police removed from a Capitol Hill row house earlier this week, according to two D.C. officials with knowledge of the case,
00:05:25.980 even though the group involved in their discovery claims that the fetuses were all late-term abortions performed illegally.
00:05:31.800 Not going to perform an autopsy?
00:05:35.820 Now, put aside for a moment the nature of the injuries, the report from the whistleblower, the stage of fetal development.
00:05:43.800 All of that aside, wouldn't the simple fact that you were given five dead bodies, five dead and mutilated bodies,
00:05:51.880 wouldn't that be enough reason to warrant an autopsy?
00:05:55.800 I mean, somebody calls you up and gives you a tip and says,
00:05:59.680 we've got five dead bodies here and you come and claim them, aren't you wondering how they died?
00:06:07.380 How would you not perform an autopsy?
00:06:09.440 Wouldn't that be the first thing you do?
00:06:12.600 Shouldn't law enforcement officials be curious about how these children died?
00:06:17.280 Do taxpayers in D.C. not pay the salary of the city medical examiner precisely for cases like this,
00:06:22.820 cases where people are dead and it's not clear how they died?
00:06:25.400 The police announced mere moments after discovering the bodies.
00:06:30.040 They held a press conference and they said there's no reason to think that an illegal abortion occurred.
00:06:35.380 But how could they possibly know that just by looking?
00:06:39.620 What's going on here?
00:06:41.700 Well, what's going on is that the wagons are circling.
00:06:45.180 The abortion industry is funded and protected by the government to such an extent that the abortion industry
00:06:50.380 is basically its own quasi-governmental agency at this point.
00:06:53.840 When the Center for Medical Progress conducted an undercover investigation of Planned Parenthood a few years ago
00:06:59.360 and exposed on video unequivocally that the organization is harvesting organs and selling body parts
00:07:07.460 and this was proven, you have Planned Parenthood officials on video admitting it.
00:07:15.080 What happened then?
00:07:16.640 The cops raided the journalists who revealed these crimes.
00:07:19.760 They're the ones who were threatened with prison time.
00:07:23.880 The organization who committed the crimes suffered no consequences at all.
00:07:29.080 Didn't even get their funding cut off.
00:07:31.980 By the way, didn't even get their federal funding cut off even after Republicans took control of the government.
00:07:39.860 It was after this that we had a Republican president and Republican Congress
00:07:44.380 and they just kept sending that money to Planned Parenthood.
00:07:48.640 The government protects its own.
00:07:51.200 The abortion industry is its own.
00:07:54.840 Now I asked rhetorically why the medical examiner is not interested to find out how these people died.
00:08:01.760 The answer, of course, is that the authorities do not recognize the people as people.
00:08:06.940 And that's really what makes these images and this story so important.
00:08:12.460 You know, most of the conversation around this story will be about whether those children were victims of illegal abortions
00:08:18.840 or post-birth abortions. 0.89
00:08:22.380 But we have to realize it's also quite possible they were not.
00:08:26.260 Late-term abortion, that is the killing of fully developed, viable infants who can easily survive outside the womb,
00:08:33.680 that is legal in D.C.
00:08:35.000 The clinic where these murders occurred boasts that it will kill babies at 27 weeks or later.
00:08:43.800 Again, these are babies that just give birth to them and they can survive.
00:08:46.800 They'll need a little bit of medical attention.
00:08:50.760 I mean, every, actually, in fact, every newborn who was born needs attention.
00:08:56.100 And it's no different for a baby born at 27, 28, 29, 30 weeks.
00:09:01.580 But these are not blobs of cells, they're babies.
00:09:05.000 If you've seen a newborn, you have seen a maybe slightly bigger version of what a baby killed during late-term abortion looks like.
00:09:13.140 That's why the images are important.
00:09:17.900 I think we would make a mistake in focusing too much on the question of whether they were aborted illegally or not.
00:09:24.600 That's an important question.
00:09:26.480 And if a crime occurred, then those responsible should go to prison.
00:09:29.100 But the greater point here is that it's quite possible and common to murder an infant, crush his skull, dismember him without committing any crime at all, according to the laws on the books.
00:09:41.520 The pro-abortion movement, they would like you to believe, if you happen across these images, they'd prefer if you don't see them at all.
00:09:48.940 But if you do, they would like you to believe that the images of these mangled and bloodied infants are anomalous.
00:09:54.780 They're an exception.
00:09:56.200 They are, in fact, something other than abortion.
00:09:59.540 That's a lie.
00:10:01.060 This is what abortion is. 1.00
00:10:02.500 If you support abortion, this is what you support. 0.99
00:10:07.920 Thousands of babies who look just like this, who look like infants, who are infants, not fetuses, are butchered every year in this country.
00:10:17.640 This is what it comes down to.
00:10:21.040 Again, if you've ever seen a newborn baby, which I'm sure you have, if you support abortion, you support dismembering that baby and throwing him into a dumpster.
00:10:31.640 Because that's what abortions do, abortion clinics do. 1.00
00:10:34.780 Now, you could put every other issue and debate aside and boil it down to this.
00:10:40.700 One side of the ideological divide believes that it is good to dismember infants.
00:10:47.480 They also believe that it's good to castrate children should any children survive the womb.
00:10:52.900 This is really all you need to know.
00:10:56.080 That should be enough, I think, to make your judgment about who the bad guys are.
00:10:59.360 Now, let's get to our five headlines.
00:11:08.080 You know, of course, there are many, many leftists out there just begging to be canceled.
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00:12:32.160 All right, let's start with a little bit of good news for a change.
00:12:35.920 This is from The Daily Wire.
00:12:36.760 It says Tesla CEO Elon Musk has become left-wing social media platform Twitter's largest shareholder, taking 9.2% stake in the company.
00:12:47.320 Musk now has four times as many shares as Twitter founder Jack Dorsey, who owns just 2.25%.
00:12:53.120 Bloomberg reported Twitter shares surged about 26% of pre-market trading after the regulator filing released Monday detailing Musk buying the holding.
00:13:01.120 The stake is worth about $3 billion based on Friday's market close.
00:13:06.760 The move comes after Musk teased a shakeup of Twitter or possible plans to build a new social media platform that promotes free speech.
00:13:13.260 He started talking a few weeks ago about, well, he's been talking for a while about it, but especially a few weeks ago about free speech and Twitter.
00:13:20.080 He put a survey out asking his followers, do they think that Twitter protects free speech?
00:13:26.300 Of course, the answer is no.
00:13:27.780 I think it was like 70% of people said no.
00:13:30.300 And then Musk said, well, I'm going to do something about this.
00:13:33.160 And then today we find out what it is.
00:13:34.340 He just bought 9% of the company.
00:13:36.160 It really is incredible.
00:13:39.760 And this is exactly what we need.
00:13:42.620 Somebody with that much money and that much power doing this.
00:13:46.640 Now, when I heard that Elon Musk was talking about making a competitor platform to Twitter, that would be better than nothing.
00:13:54.960 But it's not nearly as effective as what he's doing now.
00:13:58.560 If you want, if you actually, this is what I've been saying all along about all these social media competitors, whether it's Parler or Getter or Gab or Trump's social media platform, which is, by the way, is a total embarrassing failure.
00:14:14.120 He doesn't even use it himself, which is why I said a lot of you people called me naysayers.
00:14:19.980 Yes, you people for criticizing me.
00:14:23.520 I was accused of being a naysayer when we heard about Trump planning his own social media platform.
00:14:28.540 And I said it's going to, like, fizzle out right away.
00:14:31.260 That's exactly what happened.
00:14:32.460 He doesn't even use it.
00:14:34.880 Because there are a lot of reasons for it.
00:14:37.160 But as I've been saying all along, if you're going to do the competitor platform to Twitter, then you can't just make another version of Twitter.
00:14:45.860 You have to, there has to be some kind of innovation.
00:14:47.560 You have to give people a reason to use this instead.
00:14:51.160 But if what you have made is just an off-market, off-brand, generic Twitter, there's no reason for anyone to use it.
00:14:57.440 I'll just use Twitter in that case.
00:15:00.380 But the other big thing is that to compete, this is the way it's set up now.
00:15:04.400 If you want to compete with Twitter or Facebook, you're going to need to have, like, tens of billions of dollars to throw around just to start.
00:15:14.320 Just to get on the map, you need to have tens of billions to even have a chance to compete with these platforms.
00:15:21.920 And if you don't have that kind of money to throw around, it's, it's, it's, there's certainly no chance that you're going to make a dent in, you might be able to make a little niche for yourself,
00:15:32.640 but you're not going to be able to make a dent in Facebook, Twitter, TikTok.
00:15:37.240 I think the better strategy is what Musk is doing.
00:15:40.360 Is, you know what, I'm going to, they've already got this thing set up.
00:15:43.820 They have the platform.
00:15:46.760 The hundreds of billions of dollars in development have already been poured into it.
00:15:50.440 So now I'm just going to take it over.
00:15:53.740 Much better strategy.
00:15:54.760 And, um, there may be hope for us yet for some of us on the, on, on Twitter.
00:16:01.400 I kind of assumed I, I gave myself, you know, Babylon B is already gone.
00:16:05.620 I gave myself maybe six to eight months of life left on Twitter before they finally throw the ax down.
00:16:11.600 Um, who knows?
00:16:13.800 We may live longer than that now with, uh, Elon Musk taking over.
00:16:16.900 All right, this is from the Post Millennial.
00:16:18.520 It says, accused cry bully Taylor Lorenz said she has suffered severe PTSD from being a journalist
00:16:24.660 and broke down in an MSNBC interview on Friday.
00:16:28.900 On Friday's Meet the Press Daily show on MSNBC, host Chuck Todd briefly discussed government statistics
00:16:33.420 about online harassment in women before turning it over to correspondent Morgan Radford,
00:16:37.740 who, uh, did an interview with Washington Post columnist Lorenz, who covers technology and online culture.
00:16:43.500 Um, so let's, let's begin first with the setup from Chuck Todd talking about this, uh, problem of online harassment.
00:16:50.840 And he says that it's a, it's a problem that especially impacts women and especially female journalists.
00:16:57.060 They're the victims of this.
00:16:58.460 Let's listen to that.
00:17:00.940 Welcome back.
00:17:01.960 This week, the White House proclaimed April as National Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month.
00:17:06.960 One of the fastest growing threats to women is online harassment. 1.00
00:17:10.500 The latest government statistics show one in three women under the age of 35 have experienced a type of essentially sexual harassment online.
00:17:18.040 It's often underreported and many times not taken seriously, despite its serious risks to mental health and physical safety.
00:17:24.700 The Biden administration is now committed to a new global partnership for action on gender-based online harassment and abuse.
00:17:30.720 The goal, deliver an action plan on combating technology-facilitated gender-based violence by the end of this year.
00:17:36.760 Morgan Radford joins me now.
00:17:38.120 She's been doing some reporting on the impact of this type of harassment, especially, uh, the impact it has on women in journalism. 1.00
00:17:45.580 And, and it's not even a close call, Morgan, as nasty as the attacks can be on, on, on some of us in this business.
00:17:51.960 If you're a woman, it is at another level. 1.00
00:17:55.720 That's right, Chuck.
00:17:56.660 And, you know, before this was all sort of anecdotal, but now we have hard data.
00:18:00.740 I mean, this is one of the biggest issues facing female journalists right now. 1.00
00:18:05.080 Well, we'll get to the, um, the actual example because they do bring in, in, in fairness, they bring in, because if you're skeptical, well, they have a, they have a victim story that they share with us.
00:18:17.520 But I actually think that Chuck Todd understates the problem to begin with because he says that one in three women under the age of 35 experience online harassment.
00:18:28.740 Well, it's actually three in three women under the age of 35 and, uh, three in three women of any age who have been online for more than 30 seconds have been harassed.
00:18:38.160 But the other thing is that that's also true for men.
00:18:40.660 Like literally anyone who has spent more than half an hour on the internet at any point in their life, their lives has been harassed.
00:18:48.640 It comes with the territory.
00:18:50.380 We all experience it, every single one of us.
00:18:53.400 And the, the larger of a platform you have, the more people you're interacting with, um, the more people who know that you exist, the more, the more that you're going to be harassed.
00:19:06.860 It's not a good thing.
00:19:08.160 I don't like it.
00:19:09.660 I don't enjoy it.
00:19:12.080 Um, I experience it all the time.
00:19:14.040 Um, you could just sift through my email inbox, messages, comments, it's, it's all there.
00:19:24.480 So this is, this is part of the, this is, this comes with the territory with the internet.
00:19:30.400 Is it good?
00:19:31.380 No, it's not good.
00:19:33.760 Um, but we can't even begin to have any serious conversation about this issue.
00:19:41.040 However serious the issue actually is, but we can't begin to really talk about it.
00:19:46.380 If you're determined to talk about it through the lens of identity politics and left-wing victimology 101.
00:19:55.980 If that's how you want to talk about it, we're not going to be able to have any serious conversation.
00:20:01.400 As evidenced by Taylor Lorenz, uh, again, Washington Post columnist.
00:20:06.580 And she, she came on to talk about her experiences, by the way, she's also not under the age of 35.
00:20:11.420 I think she's in like her forties.
00:20:12.860 And so this is the example they give us for some reason.
00:20:15.880 And here she is, um, talking about the trauma that she suffered because of online harassment.
00:20:20.640 Listen.
00:20:22.040 Hey, nice job on that story.
00:20:24.560 You soulless effing c**t. 1.00
00:20:26.780 Then also you'll see there's these, there's many people that are tweeting, um, you know, here's,
00:20:32.380 these are Taylor Lorenz's loved ones.
00:20:34.120 They have photos.
00:20:35.200 Wow.
00:20:35.440 These are all photos of your family members.
00:20:37.180 Yeah.
00:20:37.440 Children.
00:20:38.120 Yeah.
00:20:38.580 They'll, they'll threaten children.
00:20:40.100 They'll threaten my parents.
00:20:41.840 I've had to remove every single social tie.
00:20:45.100 I had severe PTSD from this.
00:20:47.260 I, I contemplated suicide.
00:20:48.660 It got really bad.
00:20:50.180 You feel like any little piece of information that gets out on you will be used by the worst
00:20:56.420 people on the internet to destroy your life.
00:20:58.480 And it's so isolating and terrifying.
00:21:03.620 It's horrifying.
00:21:06.860 I'm so sorry.
00:21:08.780 It's overwhelming.
00:21:10.240 It's really hard.
00:21:13.980 So just put your phone down, lady, just put your phone down, go do something else with 1.00
00:21:18.500 your, if you can't handle it, then do something else with your life.
00:21:22.020 You're traumatized by your PTSD.
00:21:26.040 I mean, there, there are people who go overseas.
00:21:28.040 They're in, they're in, uh, you know, armed conflicts.
00:21:31.780 They go to war.
00:21:32.620 They come home from war and they're not reacting the way that you are.
00:21:36.200 And even if they do, you're putting yourself, when you use a phrase, when you use a term like
00:21:40.400 PTSD, you have post-traumatic stress disorder.
00:21:44.280 However, you are putting yourself on the same plane as, um, uh, people who watch their friends
00:21:51.380 get, get, uh, blown to pieces on the battlefield.
00:21:54.660 You're putting yourself in the same conversation on the same level.
00:21:57.560 You do not have PTSD.
00:21:59.260 No, you don't.
00:22:00.320 I'm not your psychiatrist.
00:22:01.940 I'm not your therapist.
00:22:03.180 I haven't run any, any, any tests at all on you.
00:22:05.960 And yet, and yet, yes, I can sit here from a distance and say, you do not have PTSD.
00:22:11.160 You just need to grow up.
00:22:14.520 This is weakness.
00:22:16.300 You're weak.
00:22:18.180 Need to be stronger or find another line of work.
00:22:22.240 I mean, that's the example that she gives us.
00:22:24.700 If someone says, uh, uh, uh, you, you soulless C word.
00:22:29.220 I get that.
00:22:30.720 And that's like 600 times a day, those sorts of comments.
00:22:38.280 And that's the, that's the best you could do.
00:22:41.880 That's the worst example you can give us.
00:22:45.060 Now, bringing your family into it, all that kind of stuff.
00:22:47.820 That's terrible.
00:22:49.580 That's absolutely terrible.
00:22:50.600 It shouldn't happen, but it happens to all of us.
00:22:52.740 It happens to me.
00:22:53.800 I hate it.
00:22:54.640 I don't like it.
00:22:56.360 It does.
00:22:56.680 That makes me angry.
00:22:57.360 Once you bring my, my kids and my family into it.
00:23:01.820 But, um, we all experience it.
00:23:07.080 Without a doubt.
00:23:07.820 There is, it is, it is true.
00:23:12.560 Now, so there are two things to establish here.
00:23:14.820 Actually, there are three.
00:23:15.640 Because the first thing we should point out, maybe the most important thing about Taylor
00:23:18.480 Lorenz, is that she is guilty of this kind of thing herself.
00:23:22.620 This is what makes it all the more ironic and ridiculous to bring her on to talk about
00:23:26.480 it.
00:23:26.620 She is one of the, um, architects of cancel culture.
00:23:30.980 She has, she's one of these quote unquote journalists who's whipped up mobs against people, 0.99
00:23:35.680 try to get them canceled, try to get them harassed.
00:23:37.620 Trying to foment exactly the kind of outrage against other people that she says traumatizes
00:23:46.000 her.
00:23:47.180 And how much worse does that make you?
00:23:50.060 It seems like you are actually kind of soulless.
00:23:53.400 If you're traumatized by being insulted by people and yet, and so you consider it to be
00:23:57.980 a traumatizing event and yet you try to put other people in that position, that just makes
00:24:05.460 you a horrible person.
00:24:11.100 So that's one thing we have to establish.
00:24:14.000 We also have to establish that a lot of this is, it does fall into the category of just suck
00:24:18.960 it up, buttercup, and deal with it.
00:24:21.900 Because if you, if you have to, you have to make a choice.
00:24:25.020 You know, anyone with a, with a platform, you didn't get it by accident.
00:24:31.240 I know this from experience.
00:24:32.360 You have to work some, some of us harder than others, but you still have to work and actually
00:24:37.480 try to build a platform, the kind of platform where they even want, where they're even asking
00:24:43.340 you to come on cable news and talk about your experiences.
00:24:46.760 So a lot of effort went into that.
00:24:50.060 And if you're going to make that effort, then you have to be prepared to deal with the
00:24:53.920 criticism.
00:24:56.180 And because we live in the modern age, we live in the age of the internet, it's going
00:25:00.040 to be a whole lot of criticism.
00:25:02.340 And a lot of it's going to be quite vulgar and maybe a little bit upsetting.
00:25:08.940 But if you can't deal with that, then you can't deal with being a journalist and you need
00:25:12.340 to find a different line of work.
00:25:14.560 Because here's the one advantage.
00:25:16.140 This is the great thing.
00:25:17.060 As rough as it, as, as rough and tumble as it can get on the internet, the great thing
00:25:23.580 is that it still exists in your phone.
00:25:27.240 And so you can always just put down your phone and live your life.
00:25:31.380 And there's a lot of power in that too.
00:25:37.140 You know, I've, I've, I've noticed that.
00:25:38.640 I feel that sometimes when, um, when the mob's coming after me and everybody's really upset
00:25:43.660 about something that I said, and you know, I'm getting thousands of people coming after
00:25:47.780 me.
00:25:48.320 It actually is quite satisfying that I can just put my phone down and go fishing or something.
00:25:54.960 And there's all these people out there on the internet who are so mad.
00:25:57.700 And then you say, I don't even know it.
00:25:59.080 I'm not even reading it.
00:26:01.760 So you have that ability.
00:26:04.900 And then the third point is that it is also true that the internet, the anonymity that comes
00:26:13.880 with the internet, um, it gives people, they feel license to say the kinds of things that
00:26:20.440 they would never say to you in person.
00:26:23.620 Um, I mean, I could say that again, this is something, again, I could say from experience.
00:26:27.700 That I talk about all these, all these things people say to me, um, I've never encountered
00:26:35.080 it in public.
00:26:36.500 Like every day I could go online, check my inbox, whatever, look at the comments.
00:26:41.940 And there's all these people's, ah, you're a piece of crap.
00:26:44.140 You're this and that.
00:26:45.200 Um, nobody has ever come up to me, to me in public and said that to my face ever, not once.
00:26:50.820 So these are all a bunch of cowards for the most part, they hide behind the anonymity
00:26:56.200 and everything.
00:26:57.140 And, uh, the internet enables people to do that.
00:27:00.280 And so I think that there is a conversation that we can have, um, about why, why is it
00:27:10.620 that people act this way to each other on the internet?
00:27:13.220 What does it say about us?
00:27:15.820 I know we like to think that, uh, well, the internet isn't the real world.
00:27:19.300 And so it's a totally different thing.
00:27:21.960 And you hear that all the time.
00:27:23.520 Well, Twitter isn't the real world.
00:27:24.600 Well, yes, it is.
00:27:25.360 It's the real world because these are actual human beings who are using this communication
00:27:30.180 tool to speak to each other.
00:27:32.980 That's, it's the real world.
00:27:34.340 And whatever you say on the internet, that's you saying it.
00:27:37.600 They might want to, if you're the kind of, if you are a troll, if you're one of these vicious
00:27:41.300 trolls on the internet and you say a lot of terrible things, uh, you might want to comfort
00:27:45.200 yourself by telling yourself, that's not really me.
00:27:47.880 That's just internet me.
00:27:49.420 That's the me in the YouTube comments.
00:27:51.020 I'm telling someone to kill themselves.
00:27:52.320 I, you know, I would never say that in real life.
00:27:54.080 No, you are saying it in real life.
00:27:55.660 This is reality.
00:27:58.760 So we could talk about that.
00:27:59.980 What is it that drives people to behave that way?
00:28:01.880 Why does the anonymity bring this out of people?
00:28:04.380 What does it say?
00:28:04.920 I mean, all these, it's an interesting conversation at least, but we can't really have it.
00:28:11.300 If we again insist on having it through the lens of identity politics, the left's victimhood
00:28:18.560 hierarchy, because they don't even want to start the conversation unless they can establish
00:28:24.920 at the outset that their preferred victim groups are the primary victims of this thing.
00:28:35.320 When in fact, this is a ubiquitous problem that everybody on the internet experiences.
00:28:41.300 And if we're not going to acknowledge that from the outset of the conversation, then there's
00:28:47.440 no point in having the conversation.
00:28:50.040 All right.
00:28:51.120 Staying in the realm of cable news here, elsewhere in cable news, Brian Stelter is taking on the
00:28:56.700 anti-grooming laws in Florida.
00:28:58.740 No surprise that this perverted potato is in favor of grooming children. 0.97
00:29:04.040 So he brought on another creep by the name of Charlotte Clymer, who's a male who identifies
00:29:08.580 as a woman, and asked some real hard questions.
00:29:12.760 You know, this is what journalism is all about, folks.
00:29:15.420 Listen to this.
00:29:16.320 Charlotte, I think we should start with the history of this.
00:29:18.920 There is an ugly history in the United States of portraying gays, lesbians, transgender people
00:29:23.720 as perverts, as predators who are preying on children.
00:29:27.800 And when I see some of the coverage in the last week, it seems to me they are just repeating
00:29:33.200 an ugly history.
00:29:34.940 Good morning, Brian.
00:29:36.060 Yeah, it's exasperating.
00:29:40.700 Always with the hard questions there.
00:29:43.300 Serving up the hard question right from the beginning.
00:29:46.740 But the thing I really, what it says on the screen there, it says, LGBTQ community, latest
00:29:51.940 to be caught in culture war.
00:29:53.680 Now, let's think about that for a second.
00:29:57.680 The LGBT community is, they're the latest to be caught up in this culture war.
00:30:02.360 And Stelter obviously begins this with, from a false premise, that all of the criticism
00:30:09.700 on the right about the grooming of children, that it's really targeted at LGBT people, that's
00:30:15.160 actually not the case.
00:30:16.660 What we're talking about specifically when it comes to the Florida law are teachers who
00:30:21.840 want to use their position as teachers to indoctrinate, to sexually indoctrinate children.
00:30:26.800 And there are plenty of heterosexual teachers who are radical leftists who do the same thing.
00:30:33.580 I don't care if they're LGBT, if they're straight, it doesn't matter. 1.00
00:30:37.720 That makes no difference to me.
00:30:40.160 The point is that I don't want you sexually indoctrinating children.
00:30:43.620 However you personally sexually identify is irrelevant.
00:30:46.440 That's the point.
00:30:48.160 Leave it out of the conversation.
00:30:49.440 The kids don't need to hear about that.
00:30:53.760 So that's a false premise to begin with.
00:30:55.680 And then another false premise that says on the screen, LGBT community latest to be caught 0.92
00:30:59.500 in culture war.
00:31:00.600 Yeah, I wonder how this happened.
00:31:01.720 How did this happen exactly?
00:31:03.080 The LGBT community for the last several decades has been incessantly waging a culture war. 1.00
00:31:11.880 And now they find themselves caught in a culture war.
00:31:15.540 How did that happen?
00:31:16.500 That's a mystery.
00:31:17.240 Activists who incessantly wage culture war find themselves caught in a culture war.
00:31:24.840 Funny how that works, isn't it?
00:31:27.260 Next we got, we'll go over to SNL.
00:31:31.640 And it's pretty, maybe every season of SNL you get, if there's however many, you know,
00:31:38.240 20 cumulative hours of programming, probably more than that.
00:31:41.100 You might get five minutes of good content.
00:31:46.460 And so this is part of the five minutes.
00:31:48.080 And it just so happens that the Daily Wire got a mention on SNL over the weekend.
00:31:51.440 So let's listen to that.
00:31:52.440 The conservative media organization, the Daily Wire, said they'll spend $100 million to create
00:31:58.560 children's programming to counter woke media companies.
00:32:02.280 Programs will include Clifford the Big Straight Dog.
00:32:05.980 And Canto, but in English.
00:32:09.380 And one fish, two fish, that's how many fish genders there are. 1.00
00:32:13.160 I saw that clip yesterday and the wheels started turning because that last idea is actually pretty
00:32:23.620 good.
00:32:24.020 One fish, two fish, that's how many fish genders there are. 1.00
00:32:26.140 I actually like that idea.
00:32:27.060 I might take that and run with it.
00:32:31.620 And, you know, look, the Daily Wire getting a mention on Saturday Night Live, what you have
00:32:37.480 to understand is that they would much rather ignore us.
00:32:42.620 So the fact that we get a mention at all, it means that they can't ignore us anymore because
00:32:46.820 of what we're doing.
00:32:47.360 So that's a victory in and of itself.
00:32:49.540 And it was actually, it was a pretty decent joke.
00:32:52.580 I'll give them that.
00:32:54.080 All right, let's move to this.
00:32:55.840 And we're going to go back first to ancient history.
00:32:59.040 It can be hard to remember the things that happened way back in the past.
00:33:02.240 But if you can think back all the way to last October, October of 2021, here's what Colin
00:33:09.740 Kaepernick, social justice activist, here's what he was saying back in October of 2021.
00:33:14.720 So this is like six months ago.
00:33:16.180 Let's watch this again.
00:33:17.760 They don't want you to understand is what's being established is a power dynamic.
00:33:23.980 Before they put you on the field, teams poke, pride, and examine you, searching for any
00:33:31.520 defect that might affect your performance.
00:33:34.780 No boundary respected.
00:33:36.860 No dignity left intact.
00:33:48.420 Come on, boy, hurry up.
00:33:50.600 Look at that shape there.
00:33:52.100 Look at this.
00:33:54.340 Mr. Farmer, I got your bid.
00:33:56.100 30, James.
00:33:57.020 30 to you.
00:33:57.860 100.
00:33:58.540 100.
00:33:58.800 Solid.
00:33:59.060 Next one coming up.
00:34:00.620 Best one we got.
00:34:03.620 500.
00:34:04.420 500.
00:34:05.620 600.
00:34:06.760 Yeah.
00:34:09.460 Look at this here.
00:34:11.180 Come on.
00:34:11.680 Who wants this?
00:34:14.180 700.
00:34:15.020 There we go now.
00:34:16.380 Look now.
00:34:17.280 1,000.
00:34:17.860 Yeah, so it was October of 2021, and the NFL is slavery, and these poor, helpless slaves
00:34:28.400 in the NFL who are paid $20 million contracts.
00:34:33.620 But that doesn't matter.
00:34:36.460 The fact that they're being paid for their work to begin with, you would think, already
00:34:43.660 disqualifies them from the status of slave.
00:34:47.060 First of all, even if you're not getting paid, if you're volunteering to do any kind of job
00:34:53.700 at all, and you have your wits about you, and you can consent to it, then it's not slavery.
00:35:01.960 And then if you're getting paid, it's especially not slavery.
00:35:03.960 And if you're getting paid $20 million a year, you would think it's as far from slavery as you
00:35:08.660 can actually get.
00:35:09.380 It's actually the diametric opposite of slavery.
00:35:12.320 If you've never heard of slavery, and somebody wanted to explain it to you, they could say,
00:35:16.420 look at an NFL player.
00:35:17.660 It's the opposite of that, is what slavery is.
00:35:19.960 But that's how Colin Kaepernick saw it anyway, as of six months ago.
00:35:24.500 Now let's fast forward to this weekend, and here's what Colin Kaepernick is saying now.
00:35:29.440 We want to make sure that we come out, we show everyone, I can still play, still throw it,
00:35:34.520 and really just looking for an opportunity for a door to open, to have that be a pathway
00:35:41.980 to be able to get back in there, get a starting job, and lead a team to a championship.
00:35:47.640 And that's your message right there.
00:35:48.820 But if there's an NFL scout, any member of an NFL organization watching you today, what
00:35:53.800 is your message directly to them after the years that you have been off the, on the, off
00:35:58.240 the field?
00:35:58.760 What is your message to NFL teams?
00:36:01.340 That I can help make you a better team.
00:36:03.220 I can help you win games.
00:36:06.000 This guy.
00:36:07.660 Yeah, my message to the NFL is, look, I'm a good player.
00:36:10.240 I want to play for you.
00:36:11.260 And I just want a chance to be a slave on your plantation where my dignity will be destroyed.
00:36:16.720 Uh, I'm, I'm a great candidate for this.
00:36:18.940 You could destroy my dignity anytime.
00:36:21.180 I think I'd make a great slave.
00:36:24.800 This guy is, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say he's the most blatant con artist in modern
00:36:34.440 American history.
00:36:35.200 I don't, I can't think of, uh, someone who would take that title from him.
00:36:42.240 And yet he's been incredibly successful.
00:36:44.680 Um, so he's, he's at least that he's the most blatant and most successful con artist in
00:36:52.600 modern American, maybe in the history of the world.
00:36:54.140 I don't know.
00:36:56.800 The way that he's been able to profit off of this racket, off of this grift, uh, while
00:37:03.500 making no attempt to appear sincere or consistent.
00:37:06.920 And it really is, uh, it really is incredible.
00:37:11.740 And, but it, it should go without saying that, um, look, no NFL team is going to hire this
00:37:18.240 guy unless they're forced to.
00:37:19.920 So I'm not going to say that no NFL team is going to do it.
00:37:22.380 It's, it is possible.
00:37:24.480 Now I'd give it like a 40% chance actually that he does end up on an NFL roster in the
00:37:29.420 next, potentially for this next season.
00:37:31.640 And, but that's going to be because the NFL, you know, the Roger Goodell and the suits
00:37:37.940 in the NFL basically force him on a team.
00:37:41.820 No coach would actually choose to bring this guy on.
00:37:44.180 He's 33 years old, 32 or 33.
00:37:49.580 Hasn't played for six or seven years.
00:37:52.480 He went one in 10, his last season in the, in the league.
00:37:55.680 He was already on the, he'd already hit his prime and was descending into the pits when
00:38:04.240 he left the league six, seven years ago.
00:38:05.840 And he's, he's not going to be any better now.
00:38:09.260 And so you bring him on and you're getting a guy who maybe is good enough to be a backup.
00:38:13.820 Maybe that's the most you could possibly hope for.
00:38:17.300 And in exchange for that, you're getting all of the publicity, you're getting all that.
00:38:21.700 And you're getting a guy who, you know, ahead of time will accuse you of racism.
00:38:26.680 If you don't start him, even if you start a quarterback, who's also black, you can start 0.92
00:38:32.880 a quarterback who's blacker than he is, and you're still going to be accused of racism
00:38:36.500 if you don't start him.
00:38:37.160 So, you know that ahead of time, why would any coach sign up for that?
00:38:41.900 If they're forced to, they will, which maybe they will be.
00:38:46.540 Let's get now to the comment section.
00:38:47.900 Let's see.
00:38:59.660 Mike says, Matt, I'm disappointed that you completely ignored April Fool's Day.
00:39:02.920 I guess I did, but my kids did not ignore it.
00:39:06.480 So this is, this was my kids.
00:39:08.140 My kids had an April Fool's joke and they were really excited about this.
00:39:10.880 I got home from work and as soon as I, as soon as I walked in the door, they're, they're
00:39:14.900 like, daddy, daddy, you got to open the fridge.
00:39:17.140 The milk has gone bad.
00:39:19.080 And I, so I was thinking like, this is why, why are you, why do I, why do I have to look
00:39:23.580 at the milk as soon as I walk in the door?
00:39:24.900 And then this is what they showed me.
00:39:26.940 So it's the milk has gone bad and it's, you get it?
00:39:29.620 Cause it's a, it's like the milk has gone.
00:39:31.680 He's got a knife and he's got the ski mask and everything.
00:39:34.400 And they also put the sign there.
00:39:35.920 So in case I didn't get the joke, I think the milk has gone bad.
00:39:38.600 Oh no, that is, I gotta say that's top quality dad humor.
00:39:44.960 And this is from eight year olds.
00:39:47.320 So they already are getting the dad jokes down like that.
00:39:51.720 So that was a, that was a, that was a proud papa moment.
00:39:54.180 Um, let's see, what else do we got?
00:39:56.720 Uh, well, we also have this, by the way, I got to give a shout out to crane and company.
00:40:00.680 They're the new sports, uh, show that we just started a few weeks ago.
00:40:04.200 Great show, by the way, you got to go check them out.
00:40:05.680 You can download the podcast on Apple podcasts and they're down in New Orleans for the final
00:40:10.280 four.
00:40:10.680 And they happened to cross a member of the sweet baby gang.
00:40:13.060 Who's a walking around downtown New Orleans, wearing the sweet baby gang t-shirt representing
00:40:18.160 just totally confusing everybody he walks by now in New Orleans, you're used to seeing a 0.54
00:40:24.600 lot of weird things and everything, but, um, that a bearded man in a diaper is probably
00:40:31.500 not something that you see every day.
00:40:32.920 So, uh, shout out to the sweet baby gang there. 1.00
00:40:36.880 All right, let's see.
00:40:38.180 Henry says, Jada is a classic narcissist.
00:40:41.140 They like to rub situations like sleeping with others, uh, to their, in the faces of their
00:40:45.960 spouses.
00:40:46.660 They have no remorse about doing it.
00:40:49.480 Everything a narcissist does is right in their mind, even though it's bad to normal people.
00:40:54.080 Uh, yeah, they think they're right.
00:40:55.620 Yes.
00:40:55.880 But to be more specific, I think that as a narcissist, they believe that they are more complex,
00:41:01.700 more interesting, more sort of nuanced spirits than everybody else.
00:41:07.420 And so they think that, you know, even if they do something that's technically wrong,
00:41:11.000 their reason, they're just sort of so far above the rest of us that, uh, they have reasons
00:41:15.980 that we can't understand.
00:41:17.200 And, and I think that's kind of what you get with Jada Smith.
00:41:21.200 Uh, Amanda says, my three-year-old announced this morning that she's a kitty cat. 0.99
00:41:25.100 Obviously she knows who she is better than we do.
00:41:27.360 We're trying to figure out if we need to call the vet first or just go forward with getting
00:41:31.280 her a litter box and food bowl.
00:41:33.600 Hey, you're joking, but this is actually happening in schools.
00:41:36.640 This is really 100% happening that there are maybe not three-year-olds, but older than that,
00:41:44.680 you know, kids in third and fourth grade who identify as animals and their teachers are
00:41:50.680 supposed to treat them as animals and respect that self-identification.
00:41:54.060 That is a real thing.
00:41:55.360 That is a relatively frequent occurrence in schools these days.
00:42:02.480 Yet another, um, milestone on the slippery slope that we were told would never happen.
00:42:09.040 It's, we were told for years, it's completely absurd.
00:42:11.740 It's offensive to even suggest that if we respect people's quote unquote gender identity, 0.72
00:42:17.640 eventually we're going to have to respect their species identity.
00:42:20.940 Up until, I don't know, yesterday, we were told that, uh, no, that's a, that's a,
00:42:25.240 that's transphobic, come on, that's paranoid, that's insane.
00:42:29.420 That's a fallacy to argue that way.
00:42:30.960 Well, it's actually happening.
00:42:34.420 Um, Lenny says, my problem with this show is that Matt spends hour upon hour complaining
00:42:40.920 about all the problems in society, but never offers a solution.
00:42:43.640 What's the point of talking about this if you aren't going to try to solve it?
00:42:48.760 Well, first of all, that isn't true.
00:42:50.240 I do talk about solutions.
00:42:51.420 I actually try to go out and implement my solutions too.
00:42:54.440 So I don't just talk about them, but putting that aside, you know, I actually believe that
00:42:58.760 this obsession, and I hear this a lot from people about, oh, why aren't you talking about
00:43:02.660 the solutions?
00:43:04.260 This obsession with solutions is sort of a cop-out.
00:43:08.960 Um, this solution oriented thing.
00:43:12.720 Like there's no point talking about or thinking about anything if it can't easily be fixed or
00:43:18.680 solved.
00:43:19.200 That's, that's what you're saying.
00:43:22.940 And so what you're really saying is that there's, there's no value in simply understanding.
00:43:30.060 And I disagree.
00:43:31.140 I think that there's, even if there's something going on, if there's a problem in society and
00:43:35.620 we can't immediately solve it, and if I notice a problem, but I don't have your five point
00:43:42.000 plan, do this, do this, do this, and we'll solve it.
00:43:45.600 Does that mean we should just ignore it?
00:43:46.860 We shouldn't talk about it?
00:43:47.440 No, there's, there's a lot of value in understanding in general, value and understanding, also value
00:43:52.980 and understanding the world you're living in.
00:43:55.520 You should want to understand things.
00:43:58.560 I think this is also, this is one of the reasons why we're, um, so death phobic in our culture.
00:44:04.760 Um, of course, everybody, everyone's afraid of death to a certain extent, but we're afraid
00:44:09.940 of thinking about or talking about death.
00:44:11.980 And then COVID-19 comes along and people lose their minds, um, and collapse into this state
00:44:21.040 of paranoia because they've never even thought about the fact that they're mortal beings.
00:44:25.740 And I think this, this kind of ties into it.
00:44:27.520 It's like, well, why, why think about our mortality?
00:44:30.560 Why think about death?
00:44:31.400 Because we can't solve it.
00:44:33.400 We're all going to die.
00:44:34.480 You can't do anything about it.
00:44:35.540 You can, you can delay it for a while, but not even that long, but you're still going to
00:44:39.740 be mortal.
00:44:40.060 You can't solve death yet.
00:44:43.420 Another one of the uncomfortable aspects of life that I don't have a five point, I don't
00:44:47.000 even have a 20 point plan to solve death.
00:44:49.500 Um, and yet I still think we should confront it and talk about it.
00:44:54.500 So that's the case for many things in our culture.
00:44:57.520 And finally, Matthew Jordan says, Matt, the answer we all need is which fast food place
00:45:02.780 has the best French fries?
00:45:04.240 Uh, Arby's has the best French fries, hands down, no question about it.
00:45:08.060 Uh, the worst are McDonald's and McDonald's French fries have actually gotten worse over
00:45:12.120 time.
00:45:12.800 I think, you know, kids, the kids these days don't realize 20 years ago, the McDonald's
00:45:16.700 fry was, uh, sufficient.
00:45:18.920 At least it was, it was adequate.
00:45:20.560 And now it's, they're like soggy and cold.
00:45:23.360 They don't even put salt on them anymore.
00:45:25.080 They're undercooked.
00:45:26.080 It's disgusting.
00:45:26.820 So they're the worst, most overrated are Chick-fil-A.
00:45:29.140 Uh, not bad, but not worth all the hype.
00:45:32.440 Well, I'm sure you, I know you all heard, cause you heard about it on this show, uh,
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00:46:43.820 So I'm going to respond to something that perhaps on its own is not worth a response,
00:46:47.300 but it represents a larger trend and it's, uh, it's that larger trend that concerns me.
00:46:51.620 So one thing I've noticed over the past, uh, several years, but especially the past several
00:46:56.260 months is that there's a certain segment of the right that somehow can't handle winning
00:47:01.980 or maybe they don't want to win or perhaps they're envious that they're not the ones
00:47:06.120 personally achieving these victories.
00:47:07.740 Like they don't want to win if they won't get special credit for it.
00:47:11.360 Whatever it is, um, whatever we hear at the Daily Wire have success with something, there
00:47:15.380 are those on the right who seem utterly determined to find fault with it.
00:47:19.820 Often these are critics who never do anything of note themselves, never land any significant
00:47:23.640 blows in the culture war, never move the needle at all, never put anything on the line.
00:47:28.020 Instead, they relegate themselves to the sidelines while pointing out every perceived flaw
00:47:31.900 in those who were actually down in the arena fighting the battles.
00:47:35.460 As Teddy Roosevelt observed in his man in the arena speech, there are many who confine
00:47:39.160 themselves to criticism of the way others do what they themselves dare not even attempt.
00:47:44.960 Now today I want to focus on just one example of this kind of thing, a conservative ostensibly
00:47:50.200 on my side who seems absolutely desperate to criticize what most on our side would consider
00:47:54.780 to be a big win.
00:47:56.740 So the website LifeSite News, which is a pro-life news organization that I have vocally supported
00:48:00.920 and amplified many times over the years, I appreciate their journalism, they just published
00:48:05.140 an article written by, um, a guy named Nick Bell with this headline, Matt Walsh's debate
00:48:10.360 with transgender activists on Dr. Phil's show left a lot to be desired.
00:48:15.200 Now this is far from the first time I've encountered criticism from the right for my Dr.
00:48:19.180 Phil appearance.
00:48:20.100 Uh, you know, I flew out to Los Angeles to appear on mainstream television in front of
00:48:23.060 a hostile audience on a panel where I was out number three to one.
00:48:25.800 There was a risk because I knew that if I choked or floundered, it would be an embarrassment
00:48:29.080 that potentially in my career may never fully recover from.
00:48:32.240 But fortunately the embarrassment was all on the other side of the debate, a debate that's
00:48:34.960 been viewed many millions of times and represents, I think, one of the first times that some
00:48:38.880 of these basic arguments against trans ideology have been presented to a mainstream audience.
00:48:44.020 Um, so that's all, it's all good, you know, you'd think.
00:48:45.900 But that's not enough for the Nick Bells of the world.
00:48:47.800 My appearance left a lot to be desired, he says.
00:48:50.360 He sits back, reflecting two months after the fact, and has decided that my efforts were
00:48:54.280 simply not good enough.
00:48:55.280 Yes, you took on three gender ideologues on national television and humiliated them.
00:48:59.160 He mutters from the bleachers, but could you have done more?
00:49:02.060 And could you have done it better?
00:49:03.980 Now, I'm not, look, I'm not taking issue with the general concept of criticism.
00:49:08.080 I'm not saying that other people on the right should refrain from criticizing me or the Daily
00:49:12.480 Wire or anybody else for the sake of being a team player or whatever.
00:49:15.620 Criticism from an ally can be good and valuable.
00:49:19.040 We need to be able to do that.
00:49:20.720 But when that criticism is petty and irrelevant and weird and desperate, as it so often is,
00:49:28.560 you begin to suspect that there's some other motivation lying under the surface.
00:49:32.340 And I do have that suspicion about this article, as the author Bell seems to spend most of the
00:49:37.700 essay grasping around in the dark for something to criticize.
00:49:41.060 He begins with this odd paragraph.
00:49:42.620 He says, quote,
00:49:43.080 Now, for the record, not to split beard hairs here, but the one with the beard is a man,
00:50:09.220 the other's a woman, I wouldn't call either hybrid appealing, personally. 1.00
00:50:15.140 And I definitely don't think my opponents on stage were well-meaning or kind or likable
00:50:20.260 or anything like that.
00:50:21.680 And it is indeed a big ask that I should deny reality for their sake.
00:50:26.700 Now, he goes on in circuitous fashion, circling around whatever point he seems to want to make.
00:50:31.360 Seems to think that I was caught up too much in semantics by focusing on the definition
00:50:35.080 of a woman rather than the more important issues. 0.78
00:50:37.020 He then makes this really bizarre claim.
00:50:39.540 He says that conservatives must, quote,
00:50:41.840 make the case that transgenderism inflicts unacceptable damage not only on those who dissent 0.98
00:50:46.220 from it, but also on the transgenders themselves, as well as children caught up in a social contagion.
00:50:51.480 Much of Walsh's appearance on Dr. Phil exemplified the predicament of conservatives
00:50:54.900 when they forfeit this crucial piece of their argument.
00:50:58.460 Well, what?
00:50:59.220 How did I forfeit the claim that transgenderism hurts kids? 0.99
00:51:02.800 I specifically make that point during the episode.
00:51:05.160 I make that point all the time.
00:51:06.100 You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in media anywhere who makes that point more often than I do.
00:51:12.340 Things get stranger from here.
00:51:13.740 Bell writes, quote,
00:51:14.720 Walsh went on to bring up the destruction of women's sports, 1.00
00:51:17.080 the dangers of allowing men into women's bathrooms, 0.99
00:51:19.320 as other reasons to oppose the transgender agenda.
00:51:21.400 He mentioned the rape in Loudoun County, Virginia,
00:51:23.440 of a girl by a boy dressed in a skirt this past year that occurred in a women's bathroom.
00:51:27.460 But the left-wing professor easily fends Walsh off by saying that she does not support 0.91
00:51:31.880 open bathrooms where anyone can go in, showing how easily the left can neutralize the dangerous
00:51:36.540 bathroom argument by simply taking a compromise position, in this case separate bathrooms for
00:51:41.320 the transgendered, that allows them to avoid truly justifying the transgender position. 0.88
00:51:46.360 The thing is, that's not the position that the professor took in the episode.
00:51:49.300 She absolutely did not endorse separate bathrooms for transgender people.
00:51:53.040 No leftist endorses that position.
00:51:56.460 That doesn't exist on the left.
00:51:57.840 It can't.
00:51:59.060 They want men in the women's room, nothing less than that. 1.00
00:52:02.220 They're not going to take a third bathroom for trans people. 0.78
00:52:06.080 Now, I don't want that compromise either,
00:52:08.140 because I don't see why we should make any special accommodations for people who are 1.00
00:52:11.500 confused about their gender.
00:52:13.240 Just use the bathroom in accordance with your biological sex. 0.99
00:52:16.080 But the left, they don't want that compromise either.
00:52:18.580 Because to do that admits that these are, that, you know, the trans, the quote unquote trans 0.74
00:52:25.000 woman is not really a woman, and they can't admit that. 1.00
00:52:28.140 So that's why it's a very good thing for us to, you know, talk about this on a national,
00:52:32.780 on a national stage, specifically the bathroom issue.
00:52:36.200 We want to corner them into trying to defend it, because it's a, it's a perverse and insane
00:52:42.780 case they're making.
00:52:44.240 The more they talk about it, the better it is for us.
00:52:48.580 So yeah, if you, if you are on a stage in front of a lot of people talking about this
00:52:51.940 issue, you shouldn't be talking about bathrooms the entire time, but that should definitely
00:52:56.940 be a feature of your argument.
00:53:00.040 So, because you want to force them to confront them, force them in front of all these people
00:53:04.540 to say that they want men in the women's room and that the women who are uncomfortable 0.99
00:53:09.980 with it, it's, that's too bad for them.
00:53:13.240 So what exact point does the author have to make that's so important he felt the need to
00:53:16.120 say it two months later? Well, as best as I can tell, his primary contention is this,
00:53:20.820 which he states early in his piece. Isn't it a bit hair splitting to insist on perfect
00:53:25.300 logical rigor if the alternative would lead to transgender people feeling dramatically
00:53:29.480 less mental anguish? Would that alternative lead to less suicide? Would it allow the transgenders 1.00
00:53:34.620 to lead happier lives? Later concluding his thoughts, he follows up on the same theme.
00:53:38.740 He says, instead, the right should focus on the fact that the very thing these confused
00:53:42.360 people are seeking their happiness will be harder and harder to find the further they
00:53:46.160 go down this road. Walsh gets closest to this sort of argument when he briefly takes exception
00:53:50.040 to the transgender agenda being foisted on kids but failed to develop the argument.
00:53:54.300 As a result, much of its force was squandered. This dynamic is a microcosm for the state of
00:53:58.940 the debate writ large. The right would be better served by shifting the argument from an exclusive
00:54:03.240 focus on girls' sports and dangerous bathrooms to the well-being of the gender-confused and the 1.00
00:54:08.100 increased likelihood for confusion among children. The argument for truth and honesty
00:54:12.000 in sex and gender is dramatically more powerful when the true stakes of the issue,
00:54:16.300 the happiness and wholeness of real vulnerable people, are at the forefront.
00:54:20.380 Now, you wonder if Bell actually watched the Dr. Phil appearance or if maybe he spent the
00:54:23.520 last two months trying to find a reason to disprove of the performance and couldn't find one,
00:54:28.760 but he owed the editors an article so he decided to pull this one out of his drafts and submit it
00:54:32.180 anyway. Whatever twisted path led to this thing being published, the fact is that I do not focus
00:54:37.780 the debate exclusively on sports and bathrooms. I just don't do that. So what's the real problem
00:54:41.880 here? A lot left to be desired? What's left to be desired exactly? He devoted 2,000 words to the
00:54:47.180 subject and I still have no idea. He's also wrong. This is the most important thing. Lots of other
00:54:52.780 conservatives are wrong about this also. So it's an important point. The primary focus of our argument
00:55:00.760 against gender ideology should not be the well-being or happiness of the gender confused. It also 0.89
00:55:07.960 shouldn't be protecting children. That shouldn't be the primary focus. That's not our first point.
00:55:15.240 Now, these are obviously very, very important things and we should emphasize them and fight for them,
00:55:20.680 obviously. But the primary point in our argument against gender ideology is that gender ideology
00:55:28.240 itself is false and incoherent. That's the main point. If you make something else your primary
00:55:35.580 focus, you're surrendering the strongest argument, which is that the left's entire position is insane,
00:55:42.420 garbled, nonsensical, hollow. It's wrong. They're wrong. Simple as that. They are making claims that are
00:55:49.620 wrong. The fact that the false claims harm people is secondary because the reason they harm people is that
00:55:56.900 they are false. You can't argue for gender ideology's harmfulness until you've established
00:56:02.320 its wrongness. That's what makes it harmful is that it's wrong. If it were true that a boy might be a
00:56:11.140 girl trapped inside of a boy's body and that he, well, if that's true, then who are we to say it's
00:56:16.400 harmful for him to go out and pursue his true female identity? It's not true. It's a lie. 0.99
00:56:22.820 And that's why it's so harmful. And so you have to start by establishing that it is a lie, that it's
00:56:27.520 false. That's the point of the what is a woman question. It's not semantics. It's crucial.
00:56:33.920 It's the core of our argument. It is our argument. So maybe I'm being hard on the author. Maybe he's
00:56:40.920 sincerely just confused about my strategy on Dr. Phil, my overall approach to this issue. But it does
00:56:45.740 seem to fit into a pattern of people on the right, some people, noticing a victory on our side and
00:56:53.520 then laboring strenuously to discredit it, no matter how trivial or trifling they have to be in their
00:56:58.600 efforts. We already know what Teddy Roosevelt had to say about such people. I'm not as eloquent as him,
00:57:04.020 so instead I'll just say to them, you're canceled. And we'll leave it there for today. Thanks for
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