Ep. 922 - The Shocking Case That Reveals The True Horrors Of Abortion
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Summary
Pro-abortion activist group Pro-Life Action News obtained photos of the bodies of five unborn children who had been murdered at an abortion clinic in Washington, D.C. Pro-abortion activists claim that the government is covering up the crime and refusing to press charges.
Transcript
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, horrific photographic evidence suggests that a prominent abortion clinic in D.C. is killing babies after they're born, but the D.C. government is running cover for the clinic and refusing to investigate.
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We'll discuss also Elon Musk buys a big stake in Twitter, and liberal female journalists cry about being traumatized by mean comments on the Internet.
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The Daily Wire gets a mention on SNL, and Brian Stelter on CNN shocks no one by coming out in defense of child groomers.
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In our Daily Cancellation, a conservative pro-life website criticizes me for my Dr. Phil appearance. Why? Well, I read the article, and I'm still not sure.
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We'll talk about that, all of that, and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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One of the consequences of spending time on social media is that you're likely to encounter, without warning, as you mindlessly scroll along, images of violence and death.
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It's always unsettling to see such things, of course, but it's all the more jarring and, after a while, desensitizing to see them out of nowhere,
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sandwiched in between, like, a news article about the Grammys and a gif of a cat or something.
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Death becomes just another bit of content in this context, floating by on the endless river of content.
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Early last week, we saw a prime example of this kind of thing, when footage of a 14-year-old boy falling to his death from an Orlando theme park ride started making the rounds.
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I happened across the video without knowing what it was or why it was posted, and like millions of other people.
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I watched the boy fall, heard his body hit the ground, something that none of us needed to see or should have seen, but we saw it.
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On Friday, many of us were again confronted with images that we did not bargain for, even amid all the brutality and despair casually posted to social media platforms every day.
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They are, in fact, the worst things I think I've ever seen.
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Yet, in this case, they are images that we actually should see, as much as we might be haunted and sickened by them.
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Lila Rose, president of the pro-life organization Live Action, posted photos of five unborn children who had been aborted in D.C.
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in an abortion clinic operated by Dr., quote-unquote, Cesar Santangelo.
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The bodies of the victims were obtained by a group called Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising, which is a pro-life activist group,
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who report that they obtained them from a whistleblower inside the clinic, and they then contacted the D.C. Homicide Unit about the bodies.
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Now, according to this group and sources who spoke to Live Action,
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at least some of these children may have been aborted after they were born, infanticide,
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or may have been subjected to an illegal partial birth abortion.
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Physician experts have told Live Action News that five aborted children in a D.C. apartment appeared to have been viable human beings,
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raising questions about potential legal and serious ethical violations by the abortion clinic.
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Dr. Robin Perucci, a neonatal specialist, told Live Action News,
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I can say with confidence that these babies died at an age when they were viable, premature people.
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In her Friday morning comments, she noted that she was going to work in a NICU where she would, quote,
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Now, all you have to do is look at the images, which I'm not going to show you here, but you can easily find them,
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and you can see that these were fully formed infant children.
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The very advanced stage of development, as well as the injuries you can visibly see on their bodies,
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along with the report from the clinic whistleblower, all lend credence to the claim that a federal crime was committed.
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This looks like Gosnell all over again, Gosnell 2.0.
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And as with Gosnell, who was able to operate his house of horrors in Philadelphia for decades without consequence,
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I mean, in his case, literally blood smattered, smeared on the walls, dead bodies in refrigerators and that sort of thing,
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And it was like that for decades in the middle of a major American city.
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City officials had little interest in getting involved.
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the city medical examiner does not plan at this time to perform autopsies on the five, quote, unquote, fetuses
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police removed from a Capitol Hill row house earlier this week, according to two D.C. officials with knowledge of the case,
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even though the group involved in their discovery claims that the fetuses were all late-term abortions performed illegally.
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Now, put aside for a moment the nature of the injuries, the report from the whistleblower, the stage of fetal development.
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All of that aside, wouldn't the simple fact that you were given five dead bodies, five dead and mutilated bodies,
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wouldn't that be enough reason to warrant an autopsy?
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I mean, somebody calls you up and gives you a tip and says,
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we've got five dead bodies here and you come and claim them, aren't you wondering how they died?
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Shouldn't law enforcement officials be curious about how these children died?
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Do taxpayers in D.C. not pay the salary of the city medical examiner precisely for cases like this,
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cases where people are dead and it's not clear how they died?
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The police announced mere moments after discovering the bodies.
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They held a press conference and they said there's no reason to think that an illegal abortion occurred.
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But how could they possibly know that just by looking?
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Well, what's going on is that the wagons are circling.
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The abortion industry is funded and protected by the government to such an extent that the abortion industry
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is basically its own quasi-governmental agency at this point.
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When the Center for Medical Progress conducted an undercover investigation of Planned Parenthood a few years ago
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and exposed on video unequivocally that the organization is harvesting organs and selling body parts
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and this was proven, you have Planned Parenthood officials on video admitting it.
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The cops raided the journalists who revealed these crimes.
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They're the ones who were threatened with prison time.
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The organization who committed the crimes suffered no consequences at all.
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By the way, didn't even get their federal funding cut off even after Republicans took control of the government.
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It was after this that we had a Republican president and Republican Congress
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and they just kept sending that money to Planned Parenthood.
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Now I asked rhetorically why the medical examiner is not interested to find out how these people died.
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The answer, of course, is that the authorities do not recognize the people as people.
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And that's really what makes these images and this story so important.
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You know, most of the conversation around this story will be about whether those children were victims of illegal abortions
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But we have to realize it's also quite possible they were not.
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Late-term abortion, that is the killing of fully developed, viable infants who can easily survive outside the womb,
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The clinic where these murders occurred boasts that it will kill babies at 27 weeks or later.
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Again, these are babies that just give birth to them and they can survive.
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They'll need a little bit of medical attention.
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I mean, every, actually, in fact, every newborn who was born needs attention.
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And it's no different for a baby born at 27, 28, 29, 30 weeks.
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But these are not blobs of cells, they're babies.
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If you've seen a newborn, you have seen a maybe slightly bigger version of what a baby killed during late-term abortion looks like.
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I think we would make a mistake in focusing too much on the question of whether they were aborted illegally or not.
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And if a crime occurred, then those responsible should go to prison.
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But the greater point here is that it's quite possible and common to murder an infant, crush his skull, dismember him without committing any crime at all, according to the laws on the books.
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The pro-abortion movement, they would like you to believe, if you happen across these images, they'd prefer if you don't see them at all.
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But if you do, they would like you to believe that the images of these mangled and bloodied infants are anomalous.
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They are, in fact, something other than abortion.
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If you support abortion, this is what you support.
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Thousands of babies who look just like this, who look like infants, who are infants, not fetuses, are butchered every year in this country.
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Again, if you've ever seen a newborn baby, which I'm sure you have, if you support abortion, you support dismembering that baby and throwing him into a dumpster.
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Because that's what abortions do, abortion clinics do.
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Now, you could put every other issue and debate aside and boil it down to this.
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One side of the ideological divide believes that it is good to dismember infants.
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They also believe that it's good to castrate children should any children survive the womb.
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That should be enough, I think, to make your judgment about who the bad guys are.
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You know, of course, there are many, many leftists out there just begging to be canceled.
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All right, let's start with a little bit of good news for a change.
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It says Tesla CEO Elon Musk has become left-wing social media platform Twitter's largest shareholder, taking 9.2% stake in the company.
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Musk now has four times as many shares as Twitter founder Jack Dorsey, who owns just 2.25%.
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Bloomberg reported Twitter shares surged about 26% of pre-market trading after the regulator filing released Monday detailing Musk buying the holding.
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The stake is worth about $3 billion based on Friday's market close.
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The move comes after Musk teased a shakeup of Twitter or possible plans to build a new social media platform that promotes free speech.
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He started talking a few weeks ago about, well, he's been talking for a while about it, but especially a few weeks ago about free speech and Twitter.
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He put a survey out asking his followers, do they think that Twitter protects free speech?
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And then Musk said, well, I'm going to do something about this.
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Somebody with that much money and that much power doing this.
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Now, when I heard that Elon Musk was talking about making a competitor platform to Twitter, that would be better than nothing.
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But it's not nearly as effective as what he's doing now.
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If you want, if you actually, this is what I've been saying all along about all these social media competitors, whether it's Parler or Getter or Gab or Trump's social media platform, which is, by the way, is a total embarrassing failure.
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He doesn't even use it himself, which is why I said a lot of you people called me naysayers.
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I was accused of being a naysayer when we heard about Trump planning his own social media platform.
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And I said it's going to, like, fizzle out right away.
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But as I've been saying all along, if you're going to do the competitor platform to Twitter, then you can't just make another version of Twitter.
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You have to, there has to be some kind of innovation.
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You have to give people a reason to use this instead.
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But if what you have made is just an off-market, off-brand, generic Twitter, there's no reason for anyone to use it.
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But the other big thing is that to compete, this is the way it's set up now.
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If you want to compete with Twitter or Facebook, you're going to need to have, like, tens of billions of dollars to throw around just to start.
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Just to get on the map, you need to have tens of billions to even have a chance to compete with these platforms.
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And if you don't have that kind of money to throw around, it's, it's, it's, there's certainly no chance that you're going to make a dent in, you might be able to make a little niche for yourself,
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but you're not going to be able to make a dent in Facebook, Twitter, TikTok.
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I think the better strategy is what Musk is doing.
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Is, you know what, I'm going to, they've already got this thing set up.
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The hundreds of billions of dollars in development have already been poured into it.
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And, um, there may be hope for us yet for some of us on the, on, on Twitter.
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I kind of assumed I, I gave myself, you know, Babylon B is already gone.
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I gave myself maybe six to eight months of life left on Twitter before they finally throw the ax down.
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We may live longer than that now with, uh, Elon Musk taking over.
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It says, accused cry bully Taylor Lorenz said she has suffered severe PTSD from being a journalist
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and broke down in an MSNBC interview on Friday.
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On Friday's Meet the Press Daily show on MSNBC, host Chuck Todd briefly discussed government statistics
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about online harassment in women before turning it over to correspondent Morgan Radford,
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who, uh, did an interview with Washington Post columnist Lorenz, who covers technology and online culture.
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Um, so let's, let's begin first with the setup from Chuck Todd talking about this, uh, problem of online harassment.
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And he says that it's a, it's a problem that especially impacts women and especially female journalists.
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This week, the White House proclaimed April as National Sexual Assault Awareness and Prevention Month.
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One of the fastest growing threats to women is online harassment.
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The latest government statistics show one in three women under the age of 35 have experienced a type of essentially sexual harassment online.
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It's often underreported and many times not taken seriously, despite its serious risks to mental health and physical safety.
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The Biden administration is now committed to a new global partnership for action on gender-based online harassment and abuse.
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The goal, deliver an action plan on combating technology-facilitated gender-based violence by the end of this year.
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She's been doing some reporting on the impact of this type of harassment, especially, uh, the impact it has on women in journalism.
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And, and it's not even a close call, Morgan, as nasty as the attacks can be on, on, on some of us in this business.
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And, you know, before this was all sort of anecdotal, but now we have hard data.
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I mean, this is one of the biggest issues facing female journalists right now.
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Well, we'll get to the, um, the actual example because they do bring in, in, in fairness, they bring in, because if you're skeptical, well, they have a, they have a victim story that they share with us.
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But I actually think that Chuck Todd understates the problem to begin with because he says that one in three women under the age of 35 experience online harassment.
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Well, it's actually three in three women under the age of 35 and, uh, three in three women of any age who have been online for more than 30 seconds have been harassed.
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But the other thing is that that's also true for men.
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Like literally anyone who has spent more than half an hour on the internet at any point in their life, their lives has been harassed.
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And the, the larger of a platform you have, the more people you're interacting with, um, the more people who know that you exist, the more, the more that you're going to be harassed.
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Um, you could just sift through my email inbox, messages, comments, it's, it's all there.
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So this is, this is part of the, this is, this comes with the territory with the internet.
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Um, but we can't even begin to have any serious conversation about this issue.
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However serious the issue actually is, but we can't begin to really talk about it.
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If you're determined to talk about it through the lens of identity politics and left-wing victimology 101.
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If that's how you want to talk about it, we're not going to be able to have any serious conversation.
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As evidenced by Taylor Lorenz, uh, again, Washington Post columnist.
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And she, she came on to talk about her experiences, by the way, she's also not under the age of 35.
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And so this is the example they give us for some reason.
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And here she is, um, talking about the trauma that she suffered because of online harassment.
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Then also you'll see there's these, there's many people that are tweeting, um, you know, here's,
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You feel like any little piece of information that gets out on you will be used by the worst
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So just put your phone down, lady, just put your phone down, go do something else with
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your, if you can't handle it, then do something else with your life.
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I mean, there, there are people who go overseas.
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They're in, they're in, uh, you know, armed conflicts.
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They come home from war and they're not reacting the way that you are.
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And even if they do, you're putting yourself, when you use a phrase, when you use a term like
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However, you are putting yourself on the same plane as, um, uh, people who watch their friends
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get, get, uh, blown to pieces on the battlefield.
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You're putting yourself in the same conversation on the same level.
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I haven't run any, any, any tests at all on you.
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And yet, and yet, yes, I can sit here from a distance and say, you do not have PTSD.
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Need to be stronger or find another line of work.
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If someone says, uh, uh, uh, you, you soulless C word.
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And that's like 600 times a day, those sorts of comments.
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Now, bringing your family into it, all that kind of stuff.
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It shouldn't happen, but it happens to all of us.
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Once you bring my, my kids and my family into it.
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Now, so there are two things to establish here.
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Because the first thing we should point out, maybe the most important thing about Taylor
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Lorenz, is that she is guilty of this kind of thing herself.
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This is what makes it all the more ironic and ridiculous to bring her on to talk about
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She is one of the, um, architects of cancel culture.
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She has, she's one of these quote unquote journalists who's whipped up mobs against people,
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try to get them canceled, try to get them harassed.
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Trying to foment exactly the kind of outrage against other people that she says traumatizes
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It seems like you are actually kind of soulless.
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If you're traumatized by being insulted by people and yet, and so you consider it to be
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a traumatizing event and yet you try to put other people in that position, that just makes
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We also have to establish that a lot of this is, it does fall into the category of just suck
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Because if you, if you have to, you have to make a choice.
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You know, anyone with a, with a platform, you didn't get it by accident.
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You have to work some, some of us harder than others, but you still have to work and actually
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try to build a platform, the kind of platform where they even want, where they're even asking
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you to come on cable news and talk about your experiences.
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And if you're going to make that effort, then you have to be prepared to deal with the
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And because we live in the modern age, we live in the age of the internet, it's going
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And a lot of it's going to be quite vulgar and maybe a little bit upsetting.
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But if you can't deal with that, then you can't deal with being a journalist and you need
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As rough as it, as, as rough and tumble as it can get on the internet, the great thing
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And so you can always just put down your phone and live your life.
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I feel that sometimes when, um, when the mob's coming after me and everybody's really upset
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about something that I said, and you know, I'm getting thousands of people coming after
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It actually is quite satisfying that I can just put my phone down and go fishing or something.
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And there's all these people out there on the internet who are so mad.
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And then the third point is that it is also true that the internet, the anonymity that comes
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with the internet, um, it gives people, they feel license to say the kinds of things that
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Um, I mean, I could say that again, this is something, again, I could say from experience.
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That I talk about all these, all these things people say to me, um, I've never encountered
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Like every day I could go online, check my inbox, whatever, look at the comments.
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And there's all these people's, ah, you're a piece of crap.
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Um, nobody has ever come up to me, to me in public and said that to my face ever, not once.
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So these are all a bunch of cowards for the most part, they hide behind the anonymity
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And, uh, the internet enables people to do that.
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And so I think that there is a conversation that we can have, um, about why, why is it
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that people act this way to each other on the internet?
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I know we like to think that, uh, well, the internet isn't the real world.
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It's the real world because these are actual human beings who are using this communication
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And whatever you say on the internet, that's you saying it.
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They might want to, if you're the kind of, if you are a troll, if you're one of these vicious
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trolls on the internet and you say a lot of terrible things, uh, you might want to comfort
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yourself by telling yourself, that's not really me.
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I, you know, I would never say that in real life.
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What is it that drives people to behave that way?
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Why does the anonymity bring this out of people?
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I mean, all these, it's an interesting conversation at least, but we can't really have it.
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If we again insist on having it through the lens of identity politics, the left's victimhood
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hierarchy, because they don't even want to start the conversation unless they can establish
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at the outset that their preferred victim groups are the primary victims of this thing.
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When in fact, this is a ubiquitous problem that everybody on the internet experiences.
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And if we're not going to acknowledge that from the outset of the conversation, then there's
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Staying in the realm of cable news here, elsewhere in cable news, Brian Stelter is taking on the
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No surprise that this perverted potato is in favor of grooming children.
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So he brought on another creep by the name of Charlotte Clymer, who's a male who identifies
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as a woman, and asked some real hard questions.
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You know, this is what journalism is all about, folks.
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Charlotte, I think we should start with the history of this.
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There is an ugly history in the United States of portraying gays, lesbians, transgender people
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as perverts, as predators who are preying on children.
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And when I see some of the coverage in the last week, it seems to me they are just repeating
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Serving up the hard question right from the beginning.
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But the thing I really, what it says on the screen there, it says, LGBTQ community, latest
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The LGBT community is, they're the latest to be caught up in this culture war.
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And Stelter obviously begins this with, from a false premise, that all of the criticism
00:30:09.700
on the right about the grooming of children, that it's really targeted at LGBT people, that's
00:30:16.660
What we're talking about specifically when it comes to the Florida law are teachers who
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want to use their position as teachers to indoctrinate, to sexually indoctrinate children.
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And there are plenty of heterosexual teachers who are radical leftists who do the same thing.
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I don't care if they're LGBT, if they're straight, it doesn't matter.
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The point is that I don't want you sexually indoctrinating children.
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However you personally sexually identify is irrelevant.
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And then another false premise that says on the screen, LGBT community latest to be caught
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The LGBT community for the last several decades has been incessantly waging a culture war.
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And now they find themselves caught in a culture war.
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Activists who incessantly wage culture war find themselves caught in a culture war.
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And it's pretty, maybe every season of SNL you get, if there's however many, you know,
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20 cumulative hours of programming, probably more than that.
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And it just so happens that the Daily Wire got a mention on SNL over the weekend.
00:31:52.440
The conservative media organization, the Daily Wire, said they'll spend $100 million to create
00:31:58.560
children's programming to counter woke media companies.
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Programs will include Clifford the Big Straight Dog.
00:32:09.380
And one fish, two fish, that's how many fish genders there are.
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I saw that clip yesterday and the wheels started turning because that last idea is actually pretty
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One fish, two fish, that's how many fish genders there are.
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And, you know, look, the Daily Wire getting a mention on Saturday Night Live, what you have
00:32:37.480
to understand is that they would much rather ignore us.
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So the fact that we get a mention at all, it means that they can't ignore us anymore because
00:32:49.540
And it was actually, it was a pretty decent joke.
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And we're going to go back first to ancient history.
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It can be hard to remember the things that happened way back in the past.
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But if you can think back all the way to last October, October of 2021, here's what Colin
00:33:09.740
Kaepernick, social justice activist, here's what he was saying back in October of 2021.
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They don't want you to understand is what's being established is a power dynamic.
00:33:23.980
Before they put you on the field, teams poke, pride, and examine you, searching for any
00:34:17.860
Yeah, so it was October of 2021, and the NFL is slavery, and these poor, helpless slaves
00:34:36.460
The fact that they're being paid for their work to begin with, you would think, already
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First of all, even if you're not getting paid, if you're volunteering to do any kind of job
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at all, and you have your wits about you, and you can consent to it, then it's not slavery.
00:35:01.960
And then if you're getting paid, it's especially not slavery.
00:35:03.960
And if you're getting paid $20 million a year, you would think it's as far from slavery as you
00:35:09.380
It's actually the diametric opposite of slavery.
00:35:12.320
If you've never heard of slavery, and somebody wanted to explain it to you, they could say,
00:35:19.960
But that's how Colin Kaepernick saw it anyway, as of six months ago.
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Now let's fast forward to this weekend, and here's what Colin Kaepernick is saying now.
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We want to make sure that we come out, we show everyone, I can still play, still throw it,
00:35:34.520
and really just looking for an opportunity for a door to open, to have that be a pathway
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to be able to get back in there, get a starting job, and lead a team to a championship.
00:35:48.820
But if there's an NFL scout, any member of an NFL organization watching you today, what
00:35:53.800
is your message directly to them after the years that you have been off the, on the, off
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Yeah, my message to the NFL is, look, I'm a good player.
00:36:11.260
And I just want a chance to be a slave on your plantation where my dignity will be destroyed.
00:36:24.800
This guy is, I don't think it's an exaggeration to say he's the most blatant con artist in modern
00:36:35.200
I don't, I can't think of, uh, someone who would take that title from him.
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Um, so he's, he's at least that he's the most blatant and most successful con artist in
00:36:52.600
modern American, maybe in the history of the world.
00:36:56.800
The way that he's been able to profit off of this racket, off of this grift, uh, while
00:37:03.500
making no attempt to appear sincere or consistent.
00:37:11.740
And, but it, it should go without saying that, um, look, no NFL team is going to hire this
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So I'm not going to say that no NFL team is going to do it.
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Now I'd give it like a 40% chance actually that he does end up on an NFL roster in the
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And, but that's going to be because the NFL, you know, the Roger Goodell and the suits
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No coach would actually choose to bring this guy on.
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He went one in 10, his last season in the, in the league.
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He was already on the, he'd already hit his prime and was descending into the pits when
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And so you bring him on and you're getting a guy who maybe is good enough to be a backup.
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Maybe that's the most you could possibly hope for.
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And in exchange for that, you're getting all of the publicity, you're getting all that.
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And you're getting a guy who, you know, ahead of time will accuse you of racism.
00:38:26.680
If you don't start him, even if you start a quarterback, who's also black, you can start
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a quarterback who's blacker than he is, and you're still going to be accused of racism
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So, you know that ahead of time, why would any coach sign up for that?
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If they're forced to, they will, which maybe they will be.
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Mike says, Matt, I'm disappointed that you completely ignored April Fool's Day.
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My kids had an April Fool's joke and they were really excited about this.
00:39:10.880
I got home from work and as soon as I, as soon as I walked in the door, they're, they're
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like, daddy, daddy, you got to open the fridge.
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And I, so I was thinking like, this is why, why are you, why do I, why do I have to look
00:39:26.940
So it's the milk has gone bad and it's, you get it?
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He's got a knife and he's got the ski mask and everything.
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So in case I didn't get the joke, I think the milk has gone bad.
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Oh no, that is, I gotta say that's top quality dad humor.
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So they already are getting the dad jokes down like that.
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So that was a, that was a, that was a proud papa moment.
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Uh, well, we also have this, by the way, I got to give a shout out to crane and company.
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They're the new sports, uh, show that we just started a few weeks ago.
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Great show, by the way, you got to go check them out.
00:40:05.680
You can download the podcast on Apple podcasts and they're down in New Orleans for the final
00:40:10.680
And they happened to cross a member of the sweet baby gang.
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Who's a walking around downtown New Orleans, wearing the sweet baby gang t-shirt representing
00:40:18.160
just totally confusing everybody he walks by now in New Orleans, you're used to seeing a
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lot of weird things and everything, but, um, that a bearded man in a diaper is probably
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So, uh, shout out to the sweet baby gang there.
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They like to rub situations like sleeping with others, uh, to their, in the faces of their
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Everything a narcissist does is right in their mind, even though it's bad to normal people.
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But to be more specific, I think that as a narcissist, they believe that they are more complex,
00:41:01.700
more interesting, more sort of nuanced spirits than everybody else.
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And so they think that, you know, even if they do something that's technically wrong,
00:41:11.000
their reason, they're just sort of so far above the rest of us that, uh, they have reasons
00:41:17.200
And, and I think that's kind of what you get with Jada Smith.
00:41:21.200
Uh, Amanda says, my three-year-old announced this morning that she's a kitty cat.
00:41:25.100
Obviously she knows who she is better than we do.
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We're trying to figure out if we need to call the vet first or just go forward with getting
00:41:33.600
Hey, you're joking, but this is actually happening in schools.
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This is really 100% happening that there are maybe not three-year-olds, but older than that,
00:41:44.680
you know, kids in third and fourth grade who identify as animals and their teachers are
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supposed to treat them as animals and respect that self-identification.
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That is a relatively frequent occurrence in schools these days.
00:42:02.480
Yet another, um, milestone on the slippery slope that we were told would never happen.
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It's, we were told for years, it's completely absurd.
00:42:11.740
It's offensive to even suggest that if we respect people's quote unquote gender identity,
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eventually we're going to have to respect their species identity.
00:42:20.940
Up until, I don't know, yesterday, we were told that, uh, no, that's a, that's a,
00:42:25.240
that's transphobic, come on, that's paranoid, that's insane.
00:42:34.420
Um, Lenny says, my problem with this show is that Matt spends hour upon hour complaining
00:42:40.920
about all the problems in society, but never offers a solution.
00:42:43.640
What's the point of talking about this if you aren't going to try to solve it?
00:42:51.420
I actually try to go out and implement my solutions too.
00:42:54.440
So I don't just talk about them, but putting that aside, you know, I actually believe that
00:42:58.760
this obsession, and I hear this a lot from people about, oh, why aren't you talking about
00:43:04.260
This obsession with solutions is sort of a cop-out.
00:43:12.720
Like there's no point talking about or thinking about anything if it can't easily be fixed or
00:43:22.940
And so what you're really saying is that there's, there's no value in simply understanding.
00:43:31.140
I think that there's, even if there's something going on, if there's a problem in society and
00:43:35.620
we can't immediately solve it, and if I notice a problem, but I don't have your five point
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plan, do this, do this, do this, and we'll solve it.
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No, there's, there's a lot of value in understanding in general, value and understanding, also value
00:43:58.560
I think this is also, this is one of the reasons why we're, um, so death phobic in our culture.
00:44:04.760
Um, of course, everybody, everyone's afraid of death to a certain extent, but we're afraid
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And then COVID-19 comes along and people lose their minds, um, and collapse into this state
00:44:21.040
of paranoia because they've never even thought about the fact that they're mortal beings.
00:44:27.520
It's like, well, why, why think about our mortality?
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You can, you can delay it for a while, but not even that long, but you're still going to
00:44:43.420
Another one of the uncomfortable aspects of life that I don't have a five point, I don't
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Um, and yet I still think we should confront it and talk about it.
00:44:54.500
So that's the case for many things in our culture.
00:44:57.520
And finally, Matthew Jordan says, Matt, the answer we all need is which fast food place
00:45:04.240
Uh, Arby's has the best French fries, hands down, no question about it.
00:45:08.060
Uh, the worst are McDonald's and McDonald's French fries have actually gotten worse over
00:45:12.800
I think, you know, kids, the kids these days don't realize 20 years ago, the McDonald's
00:45:26.820
So they're the worst, most overrated are Chick-fil-A.
00:45:32.440
Well, I'm sure you, I know you all heard, cause you heard about it on this show, uh,
00:45:40.360
Daily Wire had a town hall meeting where co-CEO God King Jeremy Boring announced our $100 million
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We're getting involved in kids entertainment because I can tell you, parents like myself
00:45:51.480
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00:46:00.700
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So I'm going to respond to something that perhaps on its own is not worth a response,
00:46:47.300
but it represents a larger trend and it's, uh, it's that larger trend that concerns me.
00:46:51.620
So one thing I've noticed over the past, uh, several years, but especially the past several
00:46:56.260
months is that there's a certain segment of the right that somehow can't handle winning
00:47:01.980
or maybe they don't want to win or perhaps they're envious that they're not the ones
00:47:07.740
Like they don't want to win if they won't get special credit for it.
00:47:11.360
Whatever it is, um, whatever we hear at the Daily Wire have success with something, there
00:47:15.380
are those on the right who seem utterly determined to find fault with it.
00:47:19.820
Often these are critics who never do anything of note themselves, never land any significant
00:47:23.640
blows in the culture war, never move the needle at all, never put anything on the line.
00:47:28.020
Instead, they relegate themselves to the sidelines while pointing out every perceived flaw
00:47:31.900
in those who were actually down in the arena fighting the battles.
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As Teddy Roosevelt observed in his man in the arena speech, there are many who confine
00:47:39.160
themselves to criticism of the way others do what they themselves dare not even attempt.
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Now today I want to focus on just one example of this kind of thing, a conservative ostensibly
00:47:50.200
on my side who seems absolutely desperate to criticize what most on our side would consider
00:47:56.740
So the website LifeSite News, which is a pro-life news organization that I have vocally supported
00:48:00.920
and amplified many times over the years, I appreciate their journalism, they just published
00:48:05.140
an article written by, um, a guy named Nick Bell with this headline, Matt Walsh's debate
00:48:10.360
with transgender activists on Dr. Phil's show left a lot to be desired.
00:48:15.200
Now this is far from the first time I've encountered criticism from the right for my Dr.
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Uh, you know, I flew out to Los Angeles to appear on mainstream television in front of
00:48:23.060
a hostile audience on a panel where I was out number three to one.
00:48:25.800
There was a risk because I knew that if I choked or floundered, it would be an embarrassment
00:48:29.080
that potentially in my career may never fully recover from.
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But fortunately the embarrassment was all on the other side of the debate, a debate that's
00:48:34.960
been viewed many millions of times and represents, I think, one of the first times that some
00:48:38.880
of these basic arguments against trans ideology have been presented to a mainstream audience.
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Um, so that's all, it's all good, you know, you'd think.
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But that's not enough for the Nick Bells of the world.
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My appearance left a lot to be desired, he says.
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He sits back, reflecting two months after the fact, and has decided that my efforts were
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Yes, you took on three gender ideologues on national television and humiliated them.
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He mutters from the bleachers, but could you have done more?
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Now, I'm not, look, I'm not taking issue with the general concept of criticism.
00:49:08.080
I'm not saying that other people on the right should refrain from criticizing me or the Daily
00:49:12.480
Wire or anybody else for the sake of being a team player or whatever.
00:49:15.620
Criticism from an ally can be good and valuable.
00:49:20.720
But when that criticism is petty and irrelevant and weird and desperate, as it so often is,
00:49:28.560
you begin to suspect that there's some other motivation lying under the surface.
00:49:32.340
And I do have that suspicion about this article, as the author Bell seems to spend most of the
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essay grasping around in the dark for something to criticize.
00:49:43.080
Now, for the record, not to split beard hairs here, but the one with the beard is a man,
00:50:09.220
the other's a woman, I wouldn't call either hybrid appealing, personally.
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And I definitely don't think my opponents on stage were well-meaning or kind or likable
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And it is indeed a big ask that I should deny reality for their sake.
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Now, he goes on in circuitous fashion, circling around whatever point he seems to want to make.
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Seems to think that I was caught up too much in semantics by focusing on the definition
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of a woman rather than the more important issues.
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make the case that transgenderism inflicts unacceptable damage not only on those who dissent
00:50:46.220
from it, but also on the transgenders themselves, as well as children caught up in a social contagion.
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Much of Walsh's appearance on Dr. Phil exemplified the predicament of conservatives
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when they forfeit this crucial piece of their argument.
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How did I forfeit the claim that transgenderism hurts kids?
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I specifically make that point during the episode.
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You'd be hard-pressed to find anyone in media anywhere who makes that point more often than I do.
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Walsh went on to bring up the destruction of women's sports,
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the dangers of allowing men into women's bathrooms,
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as other reasons to oppose the transgender agenda.
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He mentioned the rape in Loudoun County, Virginia,
00:51:23.440
of a girl by a boy dressed in a skirt this past year that occurred in a women's bathroom.
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But the left-wing professor easily fends Walsh off by saying that she does not support
00:51:31.880
open bathrooms where anyone can go in, showing how easily the left can neutralize the dangerous
00:51:36.540
bathroom argument by simply taking a compromise position, in this case separate bathrooms for
00:51:41.320
the transgendered, that allows them to avoid truly justifying the transgender position.
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The thing is, that's not the position that the professor took in the episode.
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She absolutely did not endorse separate bathrooms for transgender people.
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They want men in the women's room, nothing less than that.
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They're not going to take a third bathroom for trans people.
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because I don't see why we should make any special accommodations for people who are
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Just use the bathroom in accordance with your biological sex.
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But the left, they don't want that compromise either.
00:52:18.580
Because to do that admits that these are, that, you know, the trans, the quote unquote trans
00:52:25.000
woman is not really a woman, and they can't admit that.
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So that's why it's a very good thing for us to, you know, talk about this on a national,
00:52:32.780
on a national stage, specifically the bathroom issue.
00:52:36.200
We want to corner them into trying to defend it, because it's a, it's a perverse and insane
00:52:44.240
The more they talk about it, the better it is for us.
00:52:48.580
So yeah, if you, if you are on a stage in front of a lot of people talking about this
00:52:51.940
issue, you shouldn't be talking about bathrooms the entire time, but that should definitely
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So, because you want to force them to confront them, force them in front of all these people
00:53:04.540
to say that they want men in the women's room and that the women who are uncomfortable
00:53:13.240
So what exact point does the author have to make that's so important he felt the need to
00:53:16.120
say it two months later? Well, as best as I can tell, his primary contention is this,
00:53:20.820
which he states early in his piece. Isn't it a bit hair splitting to insist on perfect
00:53:25.300
logical rigor if the alternative would lead to transgender people feeling dramatically
00:53:29.480
less mental anguish? Would that alternative lead to less suicide? Would it allow the transgenders
00:53:34.620
to lead happier lives? Later concluding his thoughts, he follows up on the same theme.
00:53:38.740
He says, instead, the right should focus on the fact that the very thing these confused
00:53:42.360
people are seeking their happiness will be harder and harder to find the further they
00:53:46.160
go down this road. Walsh gets closest to this sort of argument when he briefly takes exception
00:53:50.040
to the transgender agenda being foisted on kids but failed to develop the argument.
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As a result, much of its force was squandered. This dynamic is a microcosm for the state of
00:53:58.940
the debate writ large. The right would be better served by shifting the argument from an exclusive
00:54:03.240
focus on girls' sports and dangerous bathrooms to the well-being of the gender-confused and the
00:54:08.100
increased likelihood for confusion among children. The argument for truth and honesty
00:54:12.000
in sex and gender is dramatically more powerful when the true stakes of the issue,
00:54:16.300
the happiness and wholeness of real vulnerable people, are at the forefront.
00:54:20.380
Now, you wonder if Bell actually watched the Dr. Phil appearance or if maybe he spent the
00:54:23.520
last two months trying to find a reason to disprove of the performance and couldn't find one,
00:54:28.760
but he owed the editors an article so he decided to pull this one out of his drafts and submit it
00:54:32.180
anyway. Whatever twisted path led to this thing being published, the fact is that I do not focus
00:54:37.780
the debate exclusively on sports and bathrooms. I just don't do that. So what's the real problem
00:54:41.880
here? A lot left to be desired? What's left to be desired exactly? He devoted 2,000 words to the
00:54:47.180
subject and I still have no idea. He's also wrong. This is the most important thing. Lots of other
00:54:52.780
conservatives are wrong about this also. So it's an important point. The primary focus of our argument
00:55:00.760
against gender ideology should not be the well-being or happiness of the gender confused. It also
00:55:07.960
shouldn't be protecting children. That shouldn't be the primary focus. That's not our first point.
00:55:15.240
Now, these are obviously very, very important things and we should emphasize them and fight for them,
00:55:20.680
obviously. But the primary point in our argument against gender ideology is that gender ideology
00:55:28.240
itself is false and incoherent. That's the main point. If you make something else your primary
00:55:35.580
focus, you're surrendering the strongest argument, which is that the left's entire position is insane,
00:55:42.420
garbled, nonsensical, hollow. It's wrong. They're wrong. Simple as that. They are making claims that are
00:55:49.620
wrong. The fact that the false claims harm people is secondary because the reason they harm people is that
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they are false. You can't argue for gender ideology's harmfulness until you've established
00:56:02.320
its wrongness. That's what makes it harmful is that it's wrong. If it were true that a boy might be a
00:56:11.140
girl trapped inside of a boy's body and that he, well, if that's true, then who are we to say it's
00:56:16.400
harmful for him to go out and pursue his true female identity? It's not true. It's a lie.
00:56:22.820
And that's why it's so harmful. And so you have to start by establishing that it is a lie, that it's
00:56:27.520
false. That's the point of the what is a woman question. It's not semantics. It's crucial.
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It's the core of our argument. It is our argument. So maybe I'm being hard on the author. Maybe he's
00:56:40.920
sincerely just confused about my strategy on Dr. Phil, my overall approach to this issue. But it does
00:56:45.740
seem to fit into a pattern of people on the right, some people, noticing a victory on our side and
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then laboring strenuously to discredit it, no matter how trivial or trifling they have to be in their
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