Ep. 929 - Award Winning Science Student Doesn’t Understand Basic Biology
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An award-winning student of the sciences tries to debate Ben Shapiro about gender ideology, and the resulting footage shows us everything wrong with academia, the sciences, and gender ideology. Plus, a teacher puts on a drag show for students, and popular YouTuber YouTubers face vicious backlash for comparing abortion to the Holocaust.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, an award-winning student of the sciences tries to debate Ben Shapiro
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about gender ideology, and the resulting footage shows us everything wrong with academia, the
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sciences, and gender ideology. Also, a black supremacist commits a terrorist attack on New
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York. There is a definite trend here that the media, of course, doesn't want to talk about,
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but we will. Plus, a teacher puts on a drag show for students, and popular YouTubers face vicious
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backlash for comparing abortion to the Holocaust. They're right, of course, but they weren't right
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when they apologized. We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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So I noticed last night that Ben Shapiro was trending on social media. And as I clicked on
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his name to find out what he had done this time, I immediately learned from many left-wing accounts
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that he had been apparently totally owned and demolished and destroyed in a debate with a
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college student during the Q&A portion of his speech at UNC Greensboro this week. Now I confess that
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I was a little biased maybe, but I was skeptical of this claim for many obvious reasons. Then I went and
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watched the trending video in question and I discovered that my skepticism was certainly
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justified, to put it mildly. More than that, in fact, the exchange encapsulates nearly everything
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that's wrong with the left's approach to debate in general and debate about gender ideology in
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particular. These flaws are only further underscored by the fact that the left is handling and applauding
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the college student in spite of the fact that he, by any objective measure and speaking now
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scientifically, made an absolute ass of himself. But don't take my word for it. Let's go to the tape
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and watch some of this. I'm a mathematician and a physicist here, a double major, and I also just
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won the most prestigious award in the country to pursue research at any institution I want,
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the National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellowship. So I think I'm pretty, you know,
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qualified to say that most of what you're saying is based on, like, old data. But my question to
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you, and so I want to automatically realize that. But sure. Um, like, for example, gender identity
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disorder, that's the DSM-4, bro. We use the DSM-5 now for psychologists to be able to talk about- I literally
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cited the DSM-5 in the speech, and it's called gender dysphoria, which is the term that I use throughout
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the speech, not gender identity disorder. You sound like a bozo, bro. And you get no f***y, and you can't even make
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your wife f***, bro, so it's good. Now, a couple of things here before we watch the rest of the clip.
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First of all, the kid makes a number of false and confused claims right off the bat, but rather than
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let Ben correct the record, he interrupts, calls Ben a bozo, because those are the insults the kids are
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using these days, apparently, and makes an obscene comment about Ben's wife. Now, we saw how Will Smith
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reacted to a comment about his own wife, and we saw that Smith was largely defended by the left for
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reacting that way, but Chris Rock didn't deserve to be smacked in the face for making such an
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incredibly mild joke. This kid, on the other hand, actually does deserve the Chris Rock treatment.
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I mean, you don't talk about a man's wife that way. I understand why Ben didn't climb down from
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the stage and up into the stands and try to commit assault during the YAF event, of course, but my
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point is simply that this is a kid who needs to learn to watch his mouth. I mean, something has gone
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seriously wrong in society when a young man feels comfortable speaking that way to another man about
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that man's wife, and one of these days, he's going to run his mouth to someone who is not standing on
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stage with cameras all around, and he'll learn his manners the hard way. Also, before devolving in
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almost immediately into ad hominems, he begins by listing his credentials. The credentials are,
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of course, completely irrelevant to the conversation and will not make his wrongness magically right,
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and that's not to say that he's lying about the credentials, though. The most concerning and
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disturbing thing is that he is not, apparently. The North State Journal, a newspaper in North
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Carolina, they looked into this, and here's what they found. Quote, one UNCG student who got to ask
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a question boasted about being a mathematician and physicist and recently winning a prestigious
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National Science Foundation Graduate Research Fellowship Award. The fellowship, which NSF says is
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the oldest graduate fellowship of its kind, spans five years, including three years of an annual stipend of
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$34,000 and a cost of education allowance of $12,000 paid to the institution. A search of the awardee list
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located four students, but only one individual, Quentin Jose Emerit, matched the questioner's description
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and received an award in Physics and Astronomy, Quantum Information Science for 2022. North State Journal
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reached out to UNCG for comment, but did not receive a response by publication time. Additionally, the Twitter
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account for the physics department limited who can see their tweets after our reporter questioned them
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about merit. So, apparently the kid with the bad haircut, who thinks you're a bozo is an argument, and who
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accuses a father of three of being a virgin, and who thinks women have penises, and who couldn't even be bothered
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to wear a shirt to the event, has indeed received a prestigious academic award. Now, rather than this fact
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causing us to see the stupid kid in a better light, it should cause us to see academia in an even worse light
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than we did before, which frankly, in my case, I didn't think was possible. Now, let's return to the clip and see what else
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So, number one, let me just say, the nice thing about having several small children that don't feel the necessity
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to have my masculinity challenged by someone like you.
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If we're using a Western colonial idea of gender, then why should it apply, if we're using, because the gender binary
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You're right, men and women don't exist in any other culture.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, think about Native Americans.
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Third gender people, I'm not saying that, third gender people exist in Native American societies,
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Western African societies, like Southern Native American societies, like Mexico, so in other places
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that are not white-dominated, like the United States or Europe, and so, so you're saying white,
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so non-white people, I'm a mathematician and a physicist, you cannot tell me.
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As a mathematician and a physicist, what in the hell do you know about human biology?
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And frankly, and frankly, I would ask another question.
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If your logic is so flawed, as a mathematician and a physicist, I would suggest that whichever
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institution gave you an award, revoke it immediately.
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I'm a mathematician and a physicist, he screams, while making one erroneous and incoherent claim
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He says that the gender binary is a Western colonial idea.
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Now, even if this were an accurate claim, if it were somehow true that Western colonialists
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were the first ones to realize that men and women exist,
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that wouldn't in and of itself disprove the gender binary.
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On the contrary, in fact, it would just be one more great and true thing that Western
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It'd be another W for Western colonialism, I guess.
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But sadly, Western colonialism cannot claim credit for that.
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The so-called gender binary is as old as humanity itself.
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It is decidedly not true at all, even a little, that non-Western countries have an idea of human
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In fact, every non-Western society on Earth and in the history of the Earth believes that
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And I defy you to provide an actual example of an exception to that rule.
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Now, they may, in some cases, have some version of cross-dressing or what we would call gender
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bending or whatever, but they don't believe that men can actually be women.
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The claim made by this leftist and by almost every leftist is the idea that men have penises
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Now, if that were true, you should be able to travel outside of the Western world and
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find hundreds of cultures that believe women can have penises.
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In fact, you don't find any cultures outside of the Western world that believe that.
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I actually went to Africa and investigated this question.
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You'll see what I discovered in my documentary, What is a Woman, when it's released in May.
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You go to whatisawoman.com and see the teaser for that.
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For now, suffice it to say that this kid is full of something and it ain't knowledge.
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This is a reference to the two spirits, quote unquote, which is allegedly the Native American
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They put it into the LGBT alphabet thing now and they put it in there.
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The problem is that the term two spirit was invented in 1990 by LGBT activists.
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That's how far back ancient Native American history of 1990 is when they came up with this.
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It's an important thing to point out, actually.
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It is gender ideology, not the gender binary, that is modern and Western.
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Gender ideology was invented in the West by Westerners very recently.
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Western liberals have taken this idea and tried to spread it throughout the world.
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That is the sort of colonization that happens these days.
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Gender ideology, it turns out, is not only modern and Western, but also in its own way, colonialist.
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As the left, as liberals in the West, try to ideologically colonize the globe.
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And that's the kind of colonization that happens.
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So this kid was on exactly the opposite side of the truth.
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Upside down, backwards, incoherent, angry, stupid, confused.
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It is terrifying to consider how often all of those things tend to go together.
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Well, I did mention ever so seamlessly my documentary, which is coming up, What is a Woman?
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Again, you can go to whatiswoman.com and see the teaser for that.
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And that's one of the things I was just thinking about watching that clip of this kid.
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You can make these claims about other cultures in the world.
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I don't think you're going to like it very much.
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But that is, as you know, that documentary and the book that's coming out as well,
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I mean, that kid was an award-winning physicist, he claims.
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But I am an award-winning women's studies scholar.
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And before that, as you know, I was an award-winning.
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And if you have not pre-ordered Johnny the Walrus yet.
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And these books will actually be shipping very, very soon, I promise.
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You can still go to Amazon and order Johnny the Walrus.
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Or go to johnnythewalrus.com and get my award-winning LGBT children's book.
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A multi-state manhunt is currently underway for the person of interest suspected of unleashing
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hell on a Brooklyn subway train during Tuesday's morning commute as a gunman fired more than
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20 rounds, leaving 10 riders wounded and 13 others injured in the ensuing chaos before
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The NYPD released photos of Frank James, 62, who rented an abandoned U-Haul that's linked
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to the shooting scene and who has made concerning, quote-unquote, threats against New York City
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Mayor Eric Adams and railed against the city's homelessness crisis.
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Commuters on the N train Tuesday morning describe how a man wearing a construction vest threw a
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smoke grenade into their subway car when it was in between stations and then opened fire.
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Terrified passengers tried to get out to the next carriage where the door was locked.
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When the train pulled into the 36th Street station in Sunset Park, the gunman fled and managed
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to escape in the middle of New York City and is still right now at large.
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Now, there is more about the suspect that is relevant that we should talk about.
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But before we get there, Kathy Hochul, the governor, she was on the scene very quickly.
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And instead, the first thing she wanted to talk about, of course, is, well, we can already
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We already know where she's going to go with this, but let's watch the clip anyway.
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So this is an active shooter situation right now in the city of New York.
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I wanted to let him know that the people of the entire state of New York stand with the
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people of this city, this community, and we say no more, no more mass shootings, no more
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disrupting lives, no more creating heartbreak for people just trying to live their lives
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And we are sick and tired of reading headlines about crime, whether they're mass shootings
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or the loss of a teenage girl or a 13-year-old.
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I'm committing the full resources of our state to fight this surge of crime, this insanity
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that is seizing our city, because we want to get back to normal.
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That's what we crave, that sense of stability and normalcy.
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And this is what the mayor and I are going to continue to work toward.
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And I thank the partners, the brave people of the MTA, the first ones who had the sense,
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the drivers of the train, to leave the station to make sure no more victims could be hurt.
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The NYPD, FDNY, state police, everyone involved in this has one purpose.
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I want to thank them for being there to help us defuse a volatile situation.
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But we'll be giving continued reports as this day unfolds.
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And, of course, Kathy Hochul is not going to be able to rise to a moment like this,
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because she's just a perpetually failed politician who's managed to fail her way up
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and ended up with the governorship without being elected to it.
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We're tired of the insanity of these crimes in the last two years.
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Of course, that is her gesturing towards, in a not-so-subtle way, gun control.
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And she's allowing the media and everybody else on the left to make that connection more explicit,
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Even though they already have strict gun laws in New York,
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and that obviously did not prevent this from happening.
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And, you know, the other thing, too, is this scumbag is still on the loose right now.
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He's at large right now and certainly at the time when that speech was given.
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So we don't want to hear right now about your plans to stop mass shootings in general.
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Because we know that what they always want to do is they want to make it about gun control.
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They want to use every crisis to their political benefit, of course.
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But the other thing that happens in the midst of that is that we take these specific situations,
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which had specific causes and which need to be addressed in specific ways,
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and then you broaden it and you turn it into this kind of abstract thing of,
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what are we going to do about mass shootings and just, like, violence in general?
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Now, before we hear, instead of immediately going to that,
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why don't you tell us how you're going to catch this actual guy who's on the loose?
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And actually, the first priority before catching him would have been to stop him from doing it in the first place,
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which it seems like you should have been able to do
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because as is so often the case with these mass killers, or in this case, attempted killers,
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So journalist Andy Ngo has some more information about Frank James
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and just reading from his Twitter thread where he's compiling a lot of this stuff
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and bringing things to light that the media, of course, is not going to tell us about.
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NYPD named Frank James as a person of interest in the Brooklyn mass shooting.
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I looked into social media like the Waukesha suspect and the Louisville BLM activist
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who allegedly tried to assassinate a mayoral candidate.
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And then he's got a whole bunch of posts from this guy.
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He was all over YouTube being very explicit about the fact that he's,
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you know, about his racist feelings about white people
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and also his violent tendencies and the fact that he wanted to kill people.
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Frank James, the Brooklyn mass shooting person of interest,
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made disturbing posts recently suggesting he was going to kill people.
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And there's a whole bunch of posts of him talking about how he wants to kill people.
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And there's also, as I said, he had a YouTube channel
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where he was pretty open about the fact that he despised white people.
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So here's just one example of one of this guy's YouTube videos
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where he's complaining about the fact that Ketanji Jackson married a white man.
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I had no idea with that African name that she would be married to a white man.
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One of my subscribers brought that to my attention.
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Okay, so there's also a video that Andy Ngo posted of.
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but he's walking down the street in New York City
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so we know that this is very clear from his social media posts.
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CNN had an article where they say that the killer,
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Many of the videos that James uploaded included references to violence,
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including at a set group of people he believed had maligned him,
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in addition to broad societal and racial groups that he appeared to hate.
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The speech was a common theme throughout James' videos,
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in which he repeatedly espoused hatred toward African Americans.
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That's the only specific racial hatred that CNN acknowledges,
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The fact that almost all of his posts were very directly targeted at,
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and yet was not apprehended by law enforcement ahead of time,
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I mean, I can't say that a male swimmer is a man without getting kicked off.
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This guy could post videos of himself walking down the street
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The attempted assassin of a mayoral candidate in Louisville,
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It's also, of course, if this had gone the other way,
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and this was a white guy ranting about non-white people,
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then we know the media would have all this stuff all over the place.
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But then also, it's important because this is not like a random pattern.
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I don't see how it's a coincidence that we live in a culture right now
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And kids are having this, even at very young ages,
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that white people are evil and responsible for all the evils in the world.
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There is this constant fomenting of hatred towards white people.
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And not just hatred, but also paranoia about white people.
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You see these mass violent crimes targeting white people.
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Is it possible that these things are being encouraged?
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And that people who are already mentally unbalanced,
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they're hearing all of this stuff about how white people are evil?
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And they're being given a welcoming environment to express
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and kind of dive deeper into their own hatreds?
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But on a mainstream level, the connection isn't going to happen
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because this story is going to fall out of the headlines.
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It's already on its way out of the headlines a day later.
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And I can guarantee you, by the end of the week,
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unless there's some new update, they catch the guy or something.
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And I'm being optimistic by saying it'll take to the end of the week.
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Probably by later today, if not tomorrow, it's gone.
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The child was killed, run over by a car during a parade.
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Because they have no interest in talking about the mainstreaming of anti-white hatred
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and how that might be contributing to these kinds of violent events.
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And also, people in the media, they don't really care if white people are the victims of violence.
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Last week, high schoolers in a Wisconsin town not far from Madison had to endure a song and dance routine
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by a French teacher from their school who was dressed in drag.
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Shannon Valladolid, the district's director of information public relations,
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reportedly admitted that staff performances are vetted by the high school's teaching faculty.
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French teacher Matthew Cashton, whose LinkedIn page states he is looking to shift away from K-12 public education
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into higher education to study abroad in programming and advising,
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performed for the students during Middleton High School's Fine Arts Week.
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Cashton strutted on to the auditorium stage in a high-cut, blue-sequined dress, red boots, and a blonde wig,
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lip-syncing and dancing to Rain On Me by pop divas Lady Gaga and Ariana Grande.
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It was all a surprise to the assembled students who apparently had no idea
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that they were about to get a drag show from one of their teachers.
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All right, so it's just a male teacher in drag strutting around in front of his minor students.
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And this is how, I mean, just think about how, like, aside from the perversion and the degeneracy involved here,
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just the gall and the bulk, can we turn this off?
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You know, the gall and the gumption to do this, to do it at all, but especially to do it right now?
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When everybody's talking about grooming in the public schools,
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and for once there's actually kind of some national focus on that issue,
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and the left is busy saying, oh, it's not happening at all,
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That you, it's apparently vetted by the administration?
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They saw this plan and said, oh, yeah, sounds good, let's do that.
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Obviously, knowing that this video is going to end up online,
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it's not going to be a secret, nothing is, especially not that.
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But they don't, speaking of not caring, they just don't care.
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From the school system, their attitude is, hey, these are our kids, not yours.
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What are you going to do, pull your kids out and homeschool them?
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We know most of you probably won't, so complain all you want.
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A Middleton Cross Plains Area School's parent alerted radio host Vicki McKenna
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I send my children to school and entrust them to teachers
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that I have to believe are professionals who won't destroy their innocence
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If Matthew Kashtin makes the decision to perform his drag show at school,
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what else does he do in the classroom with a room full of children?
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What kind of educators thought this was appropriate?
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If a teacher is a pole dancer or stripper, can they also perform for my children?
00:29:04.900
I don't care what Matthew Kashtin does outside of school.
00:29:06.900
I do care what he does at Middleton High School.
00:29:13.380
If he's doing this on camera, on stage, what does he do?
00:29:16.900
If he's willing to do that on stage with everybody watching
00:29:20.900
and when he must know that there's probably people with their phones out,
00:29:24.280
what is he doing in the classroom when he's not on stage?
00:29:28.020
And when he's pretty confident that he's not being filmed?
00:29:47.060
as we're talking about grooming and gender ideology
00:29:49.640
and indoctrination of students, a very important issue,
00:29:52.680
but I hope that it, and I think we're starting to see this now,
00:29:55.260
that the conversation also starts to include a very related issue,
00:30:08.240
and up until recently, like, nobody seemed to care,
00:30:19.980
And there's a reason why these people want so desperately
00:30:28.100
I mean, there's no reason why you would want to put on women's clothes
00:30:40.220
And this has been a problem in the school system for years and decades.
00:30:49.120
there was a study commissioned by the Department of Education
00:30:55.020
which back then found that one in ten public school students
00:31:01.940
Now, that works out to about five million victims
00:31:22.300
they were at least willing to be honest about it.
00:31:32.320
three million experienced actual sexual assault.
00:31:37.800
inappropriate conversations between teachers and students,
00:31:41.960
But it also includes actual physical sexual assault by teachers.
00:31:45.280
And if you look at those numbers from the Department of Education,
00:32:12.420
I mean, when you have a sexual abuse crisis in an institution,
00:32:23.120
and you move them around to different schools and everything,
00:32:25.380
does the problem tend to get better on its own?
00:32:29.760
It's like if you find a lump somewhere on your body
00:32:33.840
and you just decide to ignore it and hope it goes away,
00:32:46.420
And it's the same thing with the cancer in the public school system.
00:32:48.880
And that's only talking about abuse by teachers.
00:32:52.880
Abuse by students, of other students as a whole,
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The AP, again, back when some of these institutions
00:33:03.120
were willing to be a little bit honest about this,
00:33:07.480
And at that time, they found that there was 17,000 cases
00:33:14.520
in a four-year period leading up to that report.
00:33:20.660
as we've seen in Loudoun County, are downright horrific.
00:33:24.060
And we know the schools have done a manifestly terrible job
00:33:31.720
There are hundreds of deviants and perverts working in the system.
00:33:42.160
you see another story of sex abuse in the public school system.
00:33:44.900
The Postmillennial, for example, just from a couple of days ago,
00:33:47.500
they've compiled four more cases, recent cases,
00:33:51.920
of teachers charged with sexual abuse of minors.
00:33:54.880
There was a case in California, 56-year-old math teacher
00:33:57.960
faces allegations of sexual assault from at least two students.
00:34:02.760
In Florida, 30-year-old Thomas Dean, former teacher at a private school,
00:34:12.900
There was an English teacher in Iowa, faces multiple rounds of charges of sexual exploitation
00:34:19.720
And in North Carolina, 27-year-old Sean Hicks, a science teacher at Harnett Central Middle School,
00:34:24.740
faces three charges of indecent liberties with a student and is jailed on a $50,000 bond.
00:34:29.440
And there was also, this is the most recent one, in Oregon,
00:34:33.700
a middle school teacher arrested, charged with sexual abuse and incest.
00:34:42.020
blamed school district for not stopping teacher sex abuse.
00:34:47.460
This is an epidemic and it's, you know, there's 50 million kids in the school system
00:34:58.880
Maybe at some point we might start talking about it.
00:35:04.440
It says, Oklahoma Republican Governor Kevin Stitt on Tuesday signed a bill into law
00:35:08.900
that makes performing an abortion illegal in the state,
00:35:12.460
with an exception only in the case of a medical emergency.
00:35:17.140
I mean, as a governor, I represent all four million Oklahomans
00:35:19.980
and they overwhelmingly support protecting life in the state of Oklahoma.
00:35:23.240
We want Oklahoma to be the most pro-life state in the country.
00:35:25.700
We want to outlaw abortion in the state of Oklahoma.
00:35:28.420
Senate Bill 612, which cleared the state Senate last year,
00:35:32.820
makes performing an abortion or attempting to perform one a felony punishable
00:35:37.240
by a maximum fine of $100,000 or a maximum of 10 years in state prison or both.
00:35:42.540
The law does not provide exceptions in cases of rape and incest.
00:35:45.360
Under the measure, the woman would not be criminally charged or convicted
00:35:50.160
The legislation does not prohibit the use, sale, prescription, or administration of contraceptives.
00:35:57.340
And, of course, even some people who call themselves, claim to be pro-lifers
00:36:02.320
are critical of the fact that there are no exceptions for rape and incest
00:36:07.540
and those kinds of extreme, you know, very rare cases.
00:36:15.960
If you're going to outlaw abortion, there can't be an exception.
00:36:19.420
One reason is just from a practical standpoint, how do you enforce that?
00:36:25.400
If you say, oh, abortion is illegal unless you tell us that you were raped,
00:36:31.720
well, there's, there's, there's, there's, what's the enforcement mechanism there?
00:36:37.060
But more importantly, the only reason to make abortion illegal is that the child in the womb
00:36:50.540
And it is not okay to intentionally directly kill an innocent human being.
00:36:54.300
That's the only reason to make abortion illegal.
00:37:00.940
And if that's the case, that the, the person in the womb is a person and has human rights
00:37:07.360
and ought to have legal rights as well, codifying those human rights,
00:37:10.480
which they naturally have by the nature of the fact that they are human beings.
00:37:14.380
If that's the case, then it doesn't make any sense to say that, oh yeah, well, they have human rights
00:37:19.960
unless they were conceived in a certain way, in which case the rights don't, don't hold anymore.
00:37:26.040
Now you want to punish somebody for rape, punish the rapist, not the baby.
00:37:33.380
But we're starting to see this more and more from, from some in the Republican party going,
00:37:39.840
We know what's happening in Florida and some other states as well,
00:37:42.500
whether, whether it's the gender issue or abortion.
00:37:46.060
Don't just sit around and say that, well, there's a, we got to wait for the Supreme court
00:37:51.360
No, if you're pro-life, then you believe that actual human beings, children are being
00:38:00.020
systematically slaughtered in this country, which means you have to do everything in your
00:38:05.900
power to stop it and let the other side challenge you.
00:38:10.420
Let them take you to court, do whatever they're going to do.
00:38:12.060
You're under no obligation to respect Roe v. Wade.
00:38:22.940
It's not morally legitimate, which means that if you're the governor of the state,
00:38:26.220
if you're a state legislator, you can ignore it and just do what you're going to do.
00:38:29.140
Let them take you to court over it, which is what they're doing in Oklahoma,
00:38:36.020
One other thing, this is just some, some good news, more good news, actually.
00:38:39.560
From CNBC, fewer than 10,000 people are using CNN Plus on a daily basis,
00:38:45.000
two weeks into its existence, according to people familiar with the matter.
00:38:48.500
People spoke with CNBC on the condition of anonymity.
00:38:50.840
CNN Plus, that's their streaming service, it launched on March 29th.
00:38:54.760
The sufficient news streaming service, which charges $5.99 a month or about $60 annually,
00:39:01.100
only became available on Roku on Monday, still is available on Android TV.
00:39:04.680
And right now, there's, it's a big crisis at CNN because they've got,
00:39:08.280
they've got 10,000 people using their streaming service.
00:39:15.000
Which, I mean, at least that's more people than watch their normal network programming,
00:39:22.120
especially when you take airports out of the equation.
00:39:24.340
So you could look at it from a positive angle like that, I guess.
00:39:26.840
You know, you actually have to give people a reason to subscribe.
00:39:33.340
You have to give them content that they want to see,
00:39:35.020
which I think CNN, they tended to neglect that part of this equation.
00:39:40.300
Nick C says, I love how Matt's segues between topics are usually just him staring silently
00:40:05.260
Alex says, from the previous show, I was almost diagnosed with ADHD,
00:40:08.540
but my parents came in and said, no, you're not going to go on drugs
00:40:11.520
because you don't fix a five-year-old kid's unwillingness to sit down in a classroom
00:40:17.840
Well, I'm glad that your parents at least saw that.
00:40:20.280
I wish that more parents would because the fact that a young child has difficulty
00:40:26.560
sitting still in a public school environment, that's not an indication
00:40:31.440
As I always say, this is a, that that's, if there's something wrong here,
00:40:34.700
if there's a disorder, it's in the system itself that expects kids to learn that way
00:40:40.620
because most kids cannot, and especially boys cannot learn that way.
00:40:45.480
If you just sit them down at a, at a desk for seven or eight hours a day
00:40:52.100
There's a, there's a minority of kids and most of them girls who can thrive in that environment,
00:40:58.480
but it's a very specific sort of environment that presents challenges to most people.
00:41:09.440
Um, but kids, especially, especially boys can't, doesn't mean that they're disordered.
00:41:14.020
It means that there's a problem with the system itself.
00:41:15.860
Um, Anna says, why can't we flip the, why do you even care argument around?
00:41:23.860
If a trans person called me a man, I wouldn't care.
00:41:31.880
Like if I, I, I'm a man, I'm aware that I'm a man.
00:41:35.960
I don't depend on anybody else affirming me in my manhood.
00:41:40.200
And so if somebody said that I was a woman, I would just, it, I, it would be embarrassing
00:41:45.940
for them to say that it wouldn't cause any kind of crisis for me.
00:41:51.580
I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't have any identity crisis because they said that it wouldn't
00:41:56.360
cause me to plunge into despair, anything like that because I know who I am and you, Anna
00:42:04.080
Well, we find this as part of gender ideology is that you're, you are, your identity is
00:42:12.160
a very tenuous thing and it requires that in order for it to, for it to kind of be held
00:42:19.900
up intact, it requires that everyone around you constantly affirm it.
00:42:25.540
And if one person fails to affirm it, then the whole thing shatters to pieces.
00:42:28.440
And that should probably tell you something about your perception of yourself, which is
00:42:34.080
So let's see, Meredith says, or rather cool Papa J Magic says, just in case any of you
00:42:40.520
didn't know, separation of church and state was meant to prevent the state from influencing
00:42:48.940
That's how it was originally used when Thomas Jefferson used it in his letter that he wrote
00:42:55.900
It was about, it was the concern that if church and state intermingle, it's not that it's going
00:43:00.860
to cause corruption of the state, but it will cause corruption of the church.
00:43:05.420
A little historical note that I think is important.
00:43:07.600
And Joyful Catholicism says, Matt, I've been adding, if you think Matt Walsh from The Daily
00:43:11.740
Wire is hilarious, we'll probably get along just fine to all of my online dating profiles.
00:43:23.280
I think, I think, you know, maybe go a little bit farther.
00:43:25.860
Requiring your date to make an SBG loyalty pledge is probably the way to go.
00:43:31.160
And the good thing is it'll really whittle down your candidates.
00:43:36.460
You'll probably scare away like 99% who will have no idea what you're talking about, but that
00:43:44.260
Well, there's no question that leftism has been a disaster.
00:43:48.980
I don't know if you noticed that yet, but that's a little known fact about me.
00:43:52.720
That's why we're discussing it all on a very special episode of Backstage Tonight.
00:43:56.060
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00:43:59.560
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00:44:02.420
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00:44:06.100
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00:44:12.380
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00:44:34.760
Cole and Savannah LeBrant are a husband and wife duo, parents of three kids, extremely successful
00:44:40.860
Their channel, The LeBrant Fam, it's called, has over 13 million subscribers.
00:44:44.680
Most of their videos are dedicated to marriage, family life, other crowd-pleasing kinds of
00:44:49.240
topics, which have earned them a large mainstream audience comprised of people from all across
00:44:54.480
And so it took real courage then to upload their latest video, which is a 38-minute documentary
00:45:03.100
In the video, they correctly dub abortion the world's most deadly killer, and they compare
00:45:07.740
abortion, the abortion death toll, to all of the worst genocides in history, including the
00:45:10.980
Rwandan genocide, the Cambodian genocide, the Holocaust, the 60 million deaths from abortion
00:45:16.740
far outstripped the other three combined, times three.
00:45:21.520
They interview doctors, pro-life activists, medical professionals, and others about the
00:45:27.240
They also say that the money they raise from the video, which should be a pretty substantial
00:45:31.420
sum as it already has 2 million views, they're going to give that money to a pregnancy center.
00:45:34.860
So this is all, again, quite courageous, admirable, and true.
00:45:37.960
And if we know anything about our culture, it's that if you do something courageous, admirable,
00:45:42.920
and true, then you're guaranteed to be ripped to shreds for it, which is indeed what Cole
00:45:48.960
Media outlets like the Daily Mail have fanned the outrage flames with headlines like this,
00:45:54.220
sickening YouTube star couple is slammed for comparing abortion to the Holocaust and branding
00:46:01.360
Meanwhile, leftist blogs like Jezebel have been even more direct.
00:46:04.460
In fact, YouTube couple shares disgusting video comparing abortion to the Holocaust.
00:46:09.340
The LeBrant fam, who have more than 13 million subscribers, posted anti-abortion propaganda
00:46:13.680
that left viewers enraged and questioning why YouTube allowed it.
00:46:18.700
Now, YouTube is allowing it, quote unquote, for now, but their video has apparently already
00:46:25.760
As for the enraged viewers, that is true as well.
00:46:28.320
All you have to do is look up Savannah LeBrant's name on Twitter, and you'll see the sort of
00:46:35.020
So reading now, just the first few tweets that pop up, just to give you an idea.
00:46:39.820
One of them says, as someone who has had an abortion, Savannah LeBrant can quite literally
00:46:44.980
How dare you, as a woman, think it is your right to tell others what to do with their
00:46:49.360
You grew up rich and married a rich man who could help you raise your child.
00:46:54.880
Next, someone else says, F Cole and Savannah LeBrant.
00:46:58.880
And then, I hope Cole and Savannah LeBrant choke.
00:47:02.260
And also, Cole and Savannah LeBrant can rot, to be honest.
00:47:05.440
How dare you, a privileged white family with no financial issues and no hardships in the
00:47:09.240
entire world, compare abortions to the Holocaust in an attempt at guilt-tripping women who have
00:47:13.420
had abortions and to push your own crappy religious agenda?
00:47:17.740
Now, in fact, I scrolled down a good way, and I didn't see even one single post defending
00:47:24.440
But that, of course, doesn't change the fact that they're right.
00:47:30.040
And in terms of sheer body count, it is the worst Holocaust in the history of the world.
00:47:34.520
That is the inevitable conclusion that you must draw if you believe that children in the
00:47:40.440
Every pro-life person must believe that abortion is the deadliest Holocaust in history, because
00:47:48.340
that is the absolutely inescapable conclusion that follows directly from the belief that
00:47:56.120
Now, of course, I call it a belief, but our belief that humans in the womb are human is
00:48:01.220
similar to our belief that gravity exists and that, like, two plus two equals four.
00:48:06.180
There is no leap of faith required in this belief.
00:48:09.880
It is belief not in some sort of assumption, but in a fact.
00:48:14.760
The entity in the womb of a woman is a being because he exists, and he is human because he
00:48:25.560
And we know that he's alive because the whole point of the abortion is to make him not alive
00:48:32.520
Abortion is the direct intentional murder of a living human being.
00:48:36.700
This kind of murder has been carried out systematically and brutally.
00:48:40.980
There's no non-brutal way to do it over 60 million times since Roe v. Wade.
00:48:52.000
No matter how it may make you feel to hear, it is inescapable.
00:48:55.840
Now, in order to disprove or debunk the Holocaust claim, you would need to, rather than cry and
00:49:01.820
whine and do the whole how dare you routine, you would need to demonstrate that the human
00:49:06.540
in the womb is not a human or else was not alive before he was killed or else that somehow
00:49:10.920
killing an innocent and defenseless human being doesn't count as murder.
00:49:18.840
The pro-abortion side barely even attempts because they know the attempt will be futile.
00:49:22.540
So instead, they just flail about like demonically possessed lunatics, hoping that it passes
00:49:33.120
Or at least they would be if they stuck to their guns.
00:49:37.720
But this is where we get to the tragic, though not at all surprising, end of the story.
00:49:43.140
Savannah LeBrant seems to have deleted all of her tweets, but before she deleted them,
00:49:47.280
according to the Daily Mail, she posted this, quote,
00:49:49.620
We didn't mean it in a hurtful way or anything.
00:49:52.400
I do understand nothing should be compared to something like the Holocaust.
00:49:58.360
Cole edits most of our videos that are uploaded.
00:50:00.720
I do apologize for any hurtful things the video has done.
00:50:03.960
The uploading of this video was to show how we plan to help anyone going through something
00:50:07.820
or thinking of an abortion and to show our view.
00:50:10.140
I totally do agree with you on it being presented in another way.
00:50:13.160
As a mom, I'm still learning from things, and I do hope to learn from this on future documentaries
00:50:22.640
So not only does she apologize and backtrack, but she actually throws her husband under the
00:50:31.600
Now, on one hand, you may be far more generous than me, and you may be willing to cut the LeBrant
00:50:40.400
They're no doubt panicked that they may have just alienated a significant portion of their
00:50:47.460
You may be willing to forgive the groveling in that case.
00:50:53.460
Because nobody told the LeBrants that they had to make a video about abortion.
00:50:57.860
They could have just kept posting sappy, heartwarming, Hallmark stuff, the kind of stuff that's
00:51:05.360
But if you're going to tread into these waters, then you have a responsibility to stand firm
00:51:13.440
I'm so tired of people saying the right thing and then backing down immediately.
00:51:18.020
It's like we're still supposed to give them credit.
00:51:24.240
All of the credit you would get for speaking up immediately evaporates the moment you apologize.
00:51:32.380
It's actually negative now because it's better to say nothing.
00:51:35.320
It's much, much better to say nothing than to say the right thing only to apologize for
00:51:41.860
Because when you apologize, you are in effect retracting the truth you spoke and you're
00:51:47.400
validating your insane, rabid, foaming-at-the-mouth critics and you're emboldening those same rabid
00:51:54.080
dogs only further ensuring that they treat the next person just as they treated you.
00:51:59.260
If you aren't prepared and willing to stare down the mob and tell these hyenas to screw
00:52:03.720
off, then please just keep your mouth shut to begin with.
00:52:13.260
Moments when you watch the video where it seemed that maybe the LeBrants weren't fully
00:52:17.400
invested in the pro-life cause or maybe aware of what the pro-life cause even is.
00:52:24.960
As we've been filming this documentary, we've been asked by our friends, by family, by mentors,
00:52:33.400
Why are we adding flame to an already crazy burning fire?
00:52:37.960
And the answer is just if one baby is safe from this, if one mom chooses to keep her baby
00:52:44.700
But this documentary by no means is trying to illegalize abortion.
00:52:48.320
After this documentary, you're still going to have the choice.
00:52:52.900
But I know that there's going to be one mom watching, maybe five, maybe 10, maybe 100,
00:52:59.960
But just for you guys to know all the resources out there and also for us as a church and just
00:53:05.360
me and Cole even, just how much more we need to be doing.
00:53:08.940
Well, obviously, the documentary itself isn't going to illegalize abortion.
00:53:15.260
But are you saying that you don't want abortion to be illegal?
00:53:18.340
That seems to be what they're saying, especially given Savannah's response to her critics on
00:53:25.600
Somebody tweeted at her saying, quote, how disgusting of you guys to make a video like
00:53:32.900
The fact you tried comparing the Holocaust to abortions is absolutely concerning.
00:53:40.420
Now, Savannah should have responded to that by reminding this person that in abortion,
00:53:44.060
babies are also ripped from their homes, which are in the womb, and then ripped apart
00:53:49.700
But instead, she came back with a smiley face and this statement.
00:53:52.660
She said, we clearly stated in the video, it's still your choice.
00:54:10.700
At another point in the film, they say that they aren't pro-life or pro-choice, but pro-love.
00:54:17.860
Isn't that the whole point of opposing abortion?
00:54:20.300
Are you, what, taking a neutral stance on the Holocaust of infants?
00:54:23.480
There's a certain lack of commitment in the way that they framed things here, and that
00:54:29.220
probably explains why they cracked under the pressure and apologized and deleted their
00:54:34.840
They were ready to go halfway for the pro-life cause, which, granted, is farther than a lot
00:54:46.960
They thought a half measure would be good enough.
00:54:52.100
You either go all in, and you come ready for the war, or you stay home and stay out of it.
00:54:58.420
So they thought they could just dip their toes in the pool, but not dive all the way in.
00:55:02.920
And for that reason, sadly, at the end of this, it must be them today who are canceled.
00:55:19.600
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