The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 969 - Journalist Tries To Debunk ‘What Is A Woman,’ Fails Miserably

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, it finally happened. One brave left-wing journalist watched and reviewed

00:00:05.320 what is a woman, and they didn't like it, shockingly. Also, the January 6th hearings were

00:00:09.860 held last night, and nobody cares. I certainly don't. More shocking and damning revelations

00:00:13.760 about the law enforcement response, or lack thereof, in Uvalde, Texas. Plus, a former NBA

00:00:18.660 star opens up about his quote-unquote trans child. Parents sue Instagram for the damage that it did

00:00:24.220 to their daughter. And our daily cancellation, Old Navy tries to virtue signal to the body

00:00:28.740 positivity crowd, and it backfires in a major and hilarious way. We'll talk about all that

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00:01:42.700 Well, as you know, the left has tried its best to ignore my film, What is a Woman, even as it has

00:01:48.060 dominated the conversation, become the most popular streaming movie in the country this month,

00:01:51.940 according to Rotten Tomatoes. That's not to say they haven't criticized the documentary. They

00:01:55.920 have. It's just that they've criticized it from a safe distance and without actually watching it

00:02:00.840 first. But it's come to my attention that one person on the left and one left-wing publication

00:02:06.720 did actually watch the movie. And just this one, as far as I know, or they claim to have watched it

00:02:13.320 anyway. And I would be remiss if I did not acknowledge this brave soul and honor her for her efforts.

00:02:18.580 But I can only give full credit if she watches the film and then engages with it and criticizes it

00:02:24.440 honestly. And it's on this last step that the writer Aaron Rook of the publication LGBTQ Nation

00:02:30.100 kind of tends to falter. Still, I think it could be worthwhile to go through this critique because

00:02:36.560 it shows, once again, I think, just how totally flimsy and bereft of logic the other side of this

00:02:42.500 discussion truly is. While trying to debunk the film, she only manages to prove most of the major

00:02:48.660 points in the film, as we'll see. So Rook delivers her commentary in a review titled, quote,

00:02:55.840 The Dangerous Deception of Matt Walsh's documentary, What is a Woman? We watched Matt Walsh's anti-trans

00:03:01.560 propaganda, so you don't have to. Spoiler alert, it's full of transphobic lies. 0.93

00:03:07.920 That sounds pretty bad. Full of transphobic lies. Now, before delving into what she claims are the 0.97

00:03:15.120 myths propagated by the film, Rook writes, quote, The film is slickly produced, thank you, and includes

00:03:21.920 interviews with some reputable sources. But Walsh seems more interested in exposing these efforts,

00:03:27.220 these experts, than actually learning from them. He also allows his anti-transgender sources to spout

00:03:33.300 off dangerous disinformation unchecked. Now, that's incorrect. I was not interested in exposing

00:03:40.100 them, and I did not expose them. They exposed themselves, figuratively anyway. I mean, one guy

00:03:45.960 in San Francisco literally exposed himself. But as for the so-called experts, they exposed the

00:03:51.100 vacuousness of their own worldview. I didn't do anything except provide them a forum for this

00:03:55.420 self-destruction, and that's all we did. That was the whole point. We just asked questions.

00:04:00.480 She then proceeds to list the film's most malignant myths. Now, let's go through these.

00:04:06.280 These are the myths propagated in my film. It says, myth, trans people who medically transition

00:04:14.560 are at increased risk of suicide. And she explains, in an effort to portray gender transition as dangerous,

00:04:21.840 the film includes the assertion that transition makes people suicidal. This claim is likely rooted 0.76

00:04:27.740 in a misinterpretation of the research promoted by anti-transgender psychiatrist Dr. Paul McHugh

00:04:33.020 in a 2014 Wall Street Journal op-ed. But the 2011 Swedish study he references was not designed to

00:04:39.020 evaluate the efficacy of gender affirmation surgeries and its authors caution against such

00:04:43.620 an interpretation. Trans journalist Kristen Williams interviewed lead author Dr. Cecilia Dejing,

00:04:50.640 who expressed her frustration at the ways in which her research had been misrepresented.

00:04:54.720 Quote, I've even seen professors use my work to support ridiculous claims. I've often had to

00:05:00.280 respond myself by commenting on articles, speaking with journalists, and talking about this problem

00:05:04.800 at conferences. People who misuse the study always omit the fact that the study clearly states that it's

00:05:09.720 not an evaluation of gender dysphoria treatment. If we look at the literature, we find that several

00:05:13.580 recent studies conclude that WPATH standards of care compliant treatment decrease gender dysphoria

00:05:19.440 and improve mental health. Okay, now, the fact that the authors of the study, the Swedish study,

00:05:27.480 were not trying to prove that gender affirmation surgery, quote unquote, big scare quotes around that,

00:05:34.000 increases suicidality, and yet they proved it anyway, only makes the results more compelling,

00:05:41.300 not less. That study, no matter what the authors of the study would prefer or how they'd like us to read

00:05:48.220 the data, clearly shows that trans people are the most suicidal a decade after the surgery.

00:05:55.540 Again, according to the author of the study, as this article points out, this one author,

00:05:59.940 that's not what she was trying to prove. That's not what she set out to do, and yet she proved it.

00:06:05.000 So, these are results that cut against the biases, apparently, of the people who conducted the study,

00:06:11.440 which just makes the results all the more convincing. This is what the data shows, plain as day.

00:06:19.280 And that's why in this attempt to debunk the, quote, myth, the writer never actually says outright

00:06:24.700 that the claim about suicidality is wrong. She cautions against misinterpretation, but does not

00:06:30.460 attempt to refute it because she can't. And that's because the data is clear. In fact, every study that's

00:06:36.640 ever been done by anyone, anywhere, shows that trans people, pre-op, post-op, no-op, affirmed, 0.86

00:06:43.300 unaffirmed, no matter what, have suicide rates significantly higher than the general population.

00:06:49.820 This clearly indicates that there is something deeper going on inside the mind, that it's a

00:06:55.380 problem in the mind, which is why surgeries can't fix it. And as this study shows, don't fix it.

00:07:02.960 You know what else our friend Erin doesn't do? She doesn't provide any contrary evidence at all. 0.98

00:07:10.220 This is a theme that will continue throughout the article. And it continues with any attempt to

00:07:14.280 debunk my movie or to debunk any of the arguments that we make on the anti-gender ideology side.

00:07:22.140 They never present any evidence to prove their assertion. She debunks the claims in my film

00:07:27.640 without really refuting them and without providing any evidence to support her position.

00:07:34.420 So kind of a rough start, but let's see if things maybe get a little bit better.

00:07:38.840 Continuing, it says, quote, myth, gender-affirming surgeries are experimental and dangerous.

00:07:46.060 She explains, some of the worst fear-mongering comes from transgender man, Scott Nugent, 1.00

00:07:51.580 who is on a crusade against medical transition for youth. In the film, Nugent says that gender-affirming

00:07:56.440 surgery comes with a 67% complication risk and shows the scar from his phalloplasty-related

00:08:01.740 skin graft for dramatic effect. Phalloplasty, a complex procedure, is not without risk of

00:08:06.560 complications. However, rates are much lower than the 67% Nugent claims and vary depending

00:08:12.260 on the approach taken by the surgeon. A 2017 study found that rates of urethral complications

00:08:17.300 were between 31.5% and 32.8%, depending on the approach. It's also not the most commonly

00:08:22.660 sought transition-related surgery. Transmasculine individuals are much more likely to seek a double

00:08:26.880 mastectomy, aka top surgery, which has a complication rate of about 12%. And many trans people don't 1.00

00:08:32.000 seek any surgical interventions, which casts doubt on his claim that for every child convinced

00:08:36.320 to transition, big pharma rakes in 1.3 million. Okay. Now, actually, the 67% figure may be vastly

00:08:47.320 understating it, depending on what study you look at, and also depending on how you define

00:08:51.360 complication. But let's just go with her figure. For the sake of argument, she's trying to debunk 1.00

00:08:58.460 the myth, quote-unquote, that gender-affirming surgeries are experimental and dangerous.

00:09:04.880 And she does so by favorably citing a study that says rates of complication are over 30%.

00:09:10.600 That's extraordinarily high. 30% complication rate? She's taking the very low end of the complication

00:09:20.480 rate, okay? The most generous study she could find, and she still must admit it's a rate at a minimum,

00:09:27.640 at best, of over 30%. And this proves that it's not dangerous? How so? And how in the world could this

00:09:38.340 prove that it's not experimental? She takes refuge in the fact that double mastectomies have only, 0.99

00:09:44.080 only a 12% complication rate, still very high. But she ignores the fact that the primary

00:09:50.000 complication with cutting off a woman's healthy breasts is that you've cut off a woman's healthy 1.00

00:09:56.140 breasts. The complication is that you've removed a piece of her body, a piece of her, and you've done 1.00

00:10:01.500 it on the theory that it will help her to be a man, even though she can never be a man, and chopping

00:10:05.620 off her breasts will bring her no closer to manhood than she was when she still had them. 1.00

00:10:10.540 The fact that there are allegedly only, quote unquote, additional complications in 12% of cases

00:10:15.860 does not rescue you from this fact. It's the surgery itself that's the problem.

00:10:22.400 Even if everything goes perfectly well when you're cutting the breasts off of a woman, 1.00

00:10:28.520 you're still cutting her breasts off. And that's the issue. You are removing healthy body parts, 1.00

00:10:34.120 and often you're doing this to young girls who would not even be allowed to legally get tattoos

00:10:39.280 because they've been judged too young for it. Finally, it's insisted that many trans people 0.66

00:10:45.300 don't get surgeries, which she says casts doubt on the claim that every child who transitions rakes in

00:10:50.640 1.3 million for Big Pharma. Now, with this rebuttal, the writer is simply pretending, I guess,

00:10:55.580 that hormone pills and puberty blockers don't exist. Because obviously, when we're talking about

00:11:00.480 the money that Big Pharma makes off of all of this, we're primarily talking about the pills

00:11:05.560 and the injections. But okay, none of that exists apparently. Okay. Incredible. Now,

00:11:12.780 that concludes basically the closest thing to an attempt at a real rebuttal that you'll find in

00:11:17.120 the article, though she does continue listing myths while the debunking efforts get lazier and lazier as

00:11:22.060 she goes along. She addresses the myth in the film that, quote, real transgender people are rare.

00:11:27.720 And she does this by pointing to a UCLA study that claims 0.6% of the population is trans. Now,

00:11:34.940 that would still qualify as rare by any definition of the word rare that I've ever heard, 0.6%.

00:11:40.140 But she then notes that a recent Pew study found that 5% of young people identify as trans.

00:11:47.700 But that doesn't refute anything we say in the film. In fact, we claim in the film that trans

00:11:53.040 identification is skyrocketing among young people. She's agreeing with us, not refuting us. That's our

00:11:57.420 point. Okay. So again, using the numbers presented, 0.6% general population. Fine. That's still

00:12:05.440 insanely high, but fine. What 0.6%? 5% for people under 30. How in the world do you explain that? 0.69

00:12:15.120 Well, our point is that this astronomical rise is due to social contagions and indoctrination.

00:12:21.120 She makes no attempt to address that. Next, she tries to debunk my claim that children can't choose

00:12:26.000 their own gender. And she does that by ensuring us that, in fact, it's, quote, widely accepted by 0.99

00:12:32.220 pediatric professionals that children can choose their genders. That's it. It's widely accepted. So

00:12:37.860 move on. Now, it's true. It is widely accepted. And one of the main points of our film is to reveal

00:12:44.980 that this wide acceptance is not rooted in any coherent underlying logic. Like, I totally agree that

00:12:51.620 it's widely accepted. That's one of the reasons we made the movie. But what we're trying to discover

00:12:56.400 is why is it so widely accepted? And what we discovered is that it's not widely accepted based

00:13:03.560 on any kind of rational, logical basis, unless you want to talk about profit motive as a rational,

00:13:10.300 logical basis. Finally, she seeks to debunk the myth, quote, unquote, that transgender identities are a

00:13:16.940 modern Western invention. And she claims that on this topic, quote, Walsh hasn't done his homework.

00:13:25.060 Well, I literally went to Africa. I mean, it's hard to do more homework than that on something like

00:13:32.540 this. The writer, on the other hand, did much more extensive research by Googling it for five

00:13:37.260 seconds. And from her Googling, she learned about Native American two-spirit identities and the

00:13:43.040 Ahidra in India. And she says that these are examples of non-Western trans identities.

00:13:49.560 The problem is that the two-spirit designation was invented by LGBT activists in America in the 90s.

00:13:56.040 So it is itself a modern Western invention. Okay, the Comanche on the Great Plains weren't going 1.00

00:14:02.140 around calling themselves two-spirit and transgender. It didn't exist. As for the alleged variation in

00:14:11.360 India, the groups she refers to are not traditionally seen as trans in the way that we use the term,

00:14:16.920 this is a spiritual concept, often referring to eunuchs who undergo castration rituals. 0.80

00:14:23.800 This is not the same as the belief that men can actually be women. Okay, so this is a really

00:14:30.740 important point. To prove that transgenderism is not uniquely modern and Western, you would have to find 1.00

00:14:38.860 non-Western cultures where they believe men can actually literally be women and women can literally

00:14:47.460 be men. Not spiritually or figuratively or performatively, but literally. You'd have to find

00:14:55.340 somewhere that believes a pregnant person can be a man, an actual man. And you'd have to prove that 1.00

00:15:03.140 this culture had this idea, came up with it on its own, and that it wasn't introduced to them by

00:15:08.340 Westerners. Now, you won't find that because it doesn't exist. I'll just make it easy for you. 1.00

00:15:14.960 Not going to find it. It doesn't exist. Just as you won't find any actual rebuttals in this rebuttal

00:15:20.280 or in any other rebuttal of what is a woman. But she did watch the movie at least. Next time,

00:15:26.780 she should probably watch it with her eyes open and the earplugs out. She might actually learn something.

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00:16:54.140 was last night and I just don't care at all. I mean, I'm so bored by this story. I had a whole

00:17:02.400 thing here. I have articles. I was going to, I really don't care. I'm not even going to talk

00:17:07.900 about it. I, I, this, this story is a, it's an affront to me. I think as a, as a news commentator,

00:17:15.040 as someone who has to, I have to make my living talking about the news and current events and the

00:17:22.080 way they keep cycling back to January 6th. And I'm supposed to keep finding things to say about it.

00:17:29.240 I got nothing else to say about it. I have nothing else to say. It happened. Uh, I wish it shouldn't

00:17:36.940 have happened. It was a bad thing. You know, it was, it was stupid. It was a very stupid thing

00:17:41.220 to go rushing into the Capitol, taking selfies at Nancy Pelosi's desk. Very, very stupid. Um, 1.00

00:17:48.060 that's it. That's really all there is to say about it. Um, and I, I certainly am not interested

00:17:56.080 in hearing these lawmakers reliving their trauma, talking about how traumatized they are. It's just,

00:18:02.680 it's so I'm bored. I'm bored to death by it. I really am. And I think everybody else is too.

00:18:11.380 There's just, there's no, there's no interest in this. I mean, they, they put this thing on prime

00:18:16.320 time intentionally, you know, cause they'd done the hearings before they've done. How many hearings

00:18:22.160 have they done on this, on this stupid thing already? They've done many hearings and a lot of 1.00

00:18:25.780 times they're doing them, you know, during the day and nobody's watching, no one cares, no one's

00:18:29.980 talking about it. And so then they thought, you know what, let's, let's wait till everyone's home

00:18:33.420 from work and we'll put it on prime time, prime time viewing. And then people will care. And still

00:18:38.740 no one cares, especially me. So moving on, here's something I do care about. Uh, police officers,

00:18:45.380 this is from daily wire police officers waited outside Robb elementary school for more than an

00:18:49.220 hour, despite being armed with knowledge that there were still children trapped inside with the

00:18:54.360 gunman still alive and possibly wounded. According to an article published yesterday,

00:18:59.740 detailing an investigation undertaken by the New York times into the widely panned police response

00:19:04.840 to the tragic shooting in Uvalde, Texas, body camera footage and documentation suggests that

00:19:08.780 the initial claims made by law enforcement were false. Uvalde school district, top cop Pedro

00:19:14.140 Arrandondo, who was in charge at the scene of the shooting reported that he was unaware students

00:19:19.940 were dialing 9-1-1 from inside the classroom. One even taking a phone from her deceased teacher

00:19:25.160 in order to do so, but the times report suggests otherwise quote, heavily armed officers delayed

00:19:30.440 confronting a gunman in, uh, in Uvalde, Texas for more than an hour, despite supervisors at the scene

00:19:35.820 being told that some trapped with him in two elementary classrooms were in need of medical treatment.

00:19:41.480 And this is according to new, uh, video footage. So they straight up lied. Okay. They were told

00:19:46.020 that there are, that there are still people alive in this classroom, people who need medical treatment

00:19:52.640 desperately, and they still waited an hour. Uh, instead of the documents show they waited for

00:19:58.260 protective equipment to lower the risk to law enforcement officers. So it might seem a lot of

00:20:06.220 this is, it might seem like the things that we already knew, but these are, um, now we have actual

00:20:12.540 evidence. I mean, it seemed almost immediately that something, uh, that the story we were told by

00:20:18.960 law enforcement was not true. And then we started getting, we, you know, we started seeing videos of

00:20:25.040 parents outside the school desperately wanting to go in. We see the cops kind of standing around

00:20:29.740 and the information's trickling in and then it trickles in, in a way that allows them to try to

00:20:35.380 massage the story in a certain way to make them to, to, um, you know, mitigate their own fault here.

00:20:43.520 But now with the body camera footage, 911, 911 records, it's a hundred percent clear

00:20:49.840 that the, this lunatic was in the classroom with children. Children were still alive in that classroom.

00:20:58.140 Um, he continued shooting during the course of that hour, executing these, these kids. Um,

00:21:07.120 others were laying there needing medical attention. How many died because they weren't getting medical

00:21:13.520 attention in the first hour? We don't know that yet. Maybe eventually we'll find that out.

00:21:20.460 And now we know that they, they were standing outside largely because they were waiting for

00:21:25.920 protective equipment so that they didn't get hurt going in there. This is the, uh, this is the biggest

00:21:32.820 law enforcement scandal of all time. I think I can't think of anything bigger than this.

00:21:40.020 And I, I, this is just for the sake of, uh, obviously for the sake of justice, but also for the sake of

00:21:48.160 civilized society, you know, so we can stave off the, the chaos and anarchy that we're already seeing

00:21:56.320 in so many cities. Uh, if we want to, if we don't want that to get a lot worse, then the people

00:22:02.600 responsible for this need to not just be fired, but put in prison. I mean, you need to start

00:22:06.940 arresting people. The officers that were there on the scene waiting outside, they should all be under

00:22:12.620 arrest. And the police, the, the law enforcement official who was in charge there lying about it

00:22:20.700 should all be under arrest. I mean, this is, this is necessary because if you don't do that,

00:22:27.180 then it's just going to be impossible for people to have any trust in law enforcement. I mean, in order,

00:22:37.260 in order to maintain or, or restore any sort of trust in our institutions, including law enforcement,

00:22:43.860 you need to hold people accountable in a situation like this.

00:22:49.480 All right. So we told you about, uh, moving on to this, we told you about Redskins coach,

00:22:54.440 Jack Del Rio, who tweeted something yesterday, a couple of days ago, saying that the BLM riots were

00:22:59.500 worse than January 6th, which they were. Uh, and then he doubled down in a press conference and,

00:23:05.480 but then he, then he folded. And as, as I learned live on the air yesterday, very disappointed to

00:23:10.300 learn. I was, I was, I was trying to give him credit as one of the very few guys in a situation

00:23:15.200 like this says something, people are upset. Then he does a press conference. He doubles down in the

00:23:19.820 press conference. Very rarely happens. And the thing is, I don't even care what the situation is,

00:23:25.720 what you said. In this case, it happens that he said something that was true. And I agree with,

00:23:29.780 but even if, even if he hadn't, I don't even care what it is. You say something people are

00:23:35.380 upset. And then you double down. I have respect for that. But then, uh, shortly after doubling

00:23:41.900 down, he decides to fold and apologize, apologize to all the people that were hurt by his tweet,

00:23:46.620 you know, because there are a lot of people out there who were deeply hurt because Jack Del Rio,

00:23:52.580 almost nobody, unless you're, unless you're an avid football fan, you know, you have no idea who Jack

00:23:57.120 Del Rio is. And if you are an avid football fan, you've hurt, you know who he is, but you certainly

00:24:02.440 don't, there's, there's no opinion he could offer that's going to cause any emotional or physical

00:24:06.780 pain to you. But he apologized to the people that he hurt. And, um, the question is, will that apology

00:24:13.280 save him? And we already know the answer to that. So here's Yahoo Sports. Derek Johnson,

00:24:17.660 the president of the NAACP called for the resignation or dismissal of Washington commander's

00:24:23.740 defensive coordinator, Jack Del Rio for his Wednesday comments about January 6th attack on the U.S.

00:24:27.900 Capitol. He says it's time for Jack Del Rio to resign or be terminated. His comments could not

00:24:33.020 have been more offensive and ignorant. The January 6th insurrection, insurrection and attempted coup was 0.97

00:24:38.540 far more than a dustup. Each day we learn more and more on just how close our democracy came to

00:24:43.140 autocracy. Downplaying the insurrection by comparing it to nationwide protests, which are in response to

00:24:48.200 a public lynching is twisted. You can't coach a majority black team while turning your back on the

00:24:53.240 black community. It's time for you to pack up and step off the field. So the apology was, it's not 1.00

00:24:59.980 that, okay, he had an opinion, he expressed it. And then a day later, he, he reinforces that opinion,

00:25:09.120 doubles down on it. And then a couple hours later, he's apologizing. Did he realize that this opinion

00:25:13.760 that he's held this entire time in the, in a couple hours after that press conference, did he realize he was

00:25:18.800 wrong in the opinion? He was incorrect? No. So he knows that he's right about what he said, but he apologized

00:25:25.480 anyway to avoid exactly this, but it doesn't matter because it doesn't matter if you apologize. It makes no,

00:25:31.720 it actually makes no difference whatsoever. It is not going to have any effect on the backlash. The people who

00:25:38.240 want to fire you for your opinion are still going to want you fired, whether you apologize or not. You could, you could

00:25:44.320 drop to your knees in tears and beg them, beg them tearfully to accept your apology and to let you keep

00:25:53.900 your job. It will not make a difference. I wanted to play this clip also. ESPN, of course, they're very

00:26:01.440 offended about this and they're talking a lot about it. This, this gives them a chance, you know, to do what

00:26:05.200 they love to do, which is to talk about anything but sports. So see if you can make heads or tails of

00:26:09.540 this, here's Ryan Clark, a former NFL player and now NFL analyst. And here he is giving his take on,

00:26:17.680 on this controversy. For me, the insensitive, insensitivity in which he approached it.

00:26:23.760 When you're talking about these protests, if you're speaking after Jacob Blake, there are people that

00:26:27.820 lost their lives. Kyle Rittenhouse killed two people during that protest. There were officers out there

00:26:33.620 with AR-15s or officers out there with assault rifles policing the people who were protesting.

00:26:39.320 And so now when you look at a person in Jack Del Rio that has to sit in the room in Washington that

00:26:44.580 is 85% African-American and he, and you have to know as a player, he is either not aware or doesn't

00:26:52.160 care enough about the people he works with or the people or communities they come from to be smart

00:26:57.680 enough not to say this. My problem and issue is when you're talking about what Jack Del Rio is saying,

00:27:03.760 he's saying this, that one wrong is better because of the people involved. Now you can think that's

00:27:10.020 because those people think like him or feel like him or support the same things that he supports.

00:27:15.020 Or you can think that's because those people look like him. Many of the people in the rooms Jack

00:27:20.020 Del Rio coaches in don't look like him.

00:27:22.400 I just, most of that's basically incoherent. And these people, like sports analysts, not all of them,

00:27:30.540 many of them are so stupid. And he, I watched this whole clip of him and he just rambles. Like, what are 1.00

00:27:38.980 you even trying to say? What I did pick up on though, is that the insensitivity of the harmful language.

00:27:46.080 This is a form of football. This guy was on, I think he played defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

00:27:50.660 Okay. This guy's playing defense. He's, he's, he's hitting people for a living.

00:27:56.680 Maybe that's part of the reason why he can't string together a coherent sentence anymore, but

00:28:00.000 this is what he does for a living. And now he, and now he's on TV. What the hell happened

00:28:03.940 to a, I know it's a standard complaint these days, but now you have football players.

00:28:11.480 He was being insensitive in his language. His opinion was harmful. My God, man, have some self-respect.

00:28:20.660 Um, and how does this have anything to do with race? What's racist about it? Well,

00:28:25.120 of course there's no way to explain that whatsoever. Um, this says his, his opinion that he expressed

00:28:30.820 had nothing to do with, with race, obviously, but somehow NAACP is chiming in. So if you're

00:28:38.100 against rioting, then that's racist.

00:28:40.760 I mean, that's, you're, you're linking. So to, to oppose rioting has happened in 2020

00:28:49.220 in cities across the country. That is an anti-black opinion.

00:28:56.080 If anything, that seems like the rather kind of a racist claim to make. Um, we'll stay in

00:29:01.680 the, kind of in the sports world here, or at least former sports stars. This is also from

00:29:05.240 Daily Wire. It says, former NBA star Dwayne Wade told CNN that he fears for his transgender child,

00:29:10.140 Zaya, and disagrees with legislation that would make gender affirming procedures on children illegal.

00:29:15.800 Now, Dwayne Wade is married to Gabrielle Union, who is a Hollywood actress. And they have,

00:29:24.940 it was a, because this is a boy who at a very young age, they declared is, is actually a girl.

00:29:31.120 Um, and like so many of these parents, you know, it's bad enough that they're transitioning their 1.00

00:29:38.020 child, but also, of course, they have to tell the whole world about it, which, and this is

00:29:43.620 intentional, but also has the effect of cementing that child in that identity, that false identity.

00:29:51.580 Because once you've taken this little kid who doesn't know any better, uh, and then, and you're

00:29:56.060 parading him around to the entire world, say, look at this. Well, he can't back away from it now.

00:30:04.520 You've made him into a, into an activist. You've made him into a leader of a movement.

00:30:13.200 Anyway, here he is on CNN talking a little bit about this, about his, his fears, you know, as,

00:30:18.520 as the parent of a quote, trans child, he's deeply afraid. Let's find out why.

00:30:22.340 I mean, just overnight, Louisiana enacted an anti-trans sports ban. It's not the first state

00:30:28.280 to do so. The governor there, um, called it discriminatory, distressing. And I wonder what

00:30:34.480 your reaction is and your message to lawmakers in states where these bans are, are happening.

00:30:40.440 You know, you're, you, you guys are going through this in your own family and I wonder what you think.

00:30:44.720 Yeah. I, I, to me, it's a, it's a, it's a joke. I mean, this is our life. We live this.

00:30:50.440 And so when you're out there making rules and if you're not experiencing this, if you're not

00:30:54.880 living this and you're just out there signing away and making laws, that's not right. That's

00:30:58.800 a joke. Like come and live, come and live a day in my world with my daughter, come and see how it

00:31:03.180 is to walk through this world as, as her. Right. Like, like, like I just think like we, we losing,

00:31:09.160 we, we losing our humane, like we, we losing our, the human side of us. Um, and it's, it's,

00:31:15.980 it's as sad as it is, as, as blessed as my daughter is to have parents who, who can support

00:31:20.560 her. I'm still afraid every moment she leaves our house and not just because of gun, gun

00:31:25.440 violence, but because of the way that people perceive her in this world. Right.

00:31:32.320 Yeah. Well, Dwayne, you know, I, we, we, we can't really walk in the shoes of, of your

00:31:38.420 daughter or understand what it's like to be your daughter because your daughter doesn't

00:31:44.720 exist. That's not your daughter. That's your son. Okay. That's a boy. And he has, you

00:31:53.060 know, something else. And this is something that, uh, Scott Nugent said in our film, what

00:31:57.480 is a woman that I thought was like everything else in that interview is very well put and

00:32:03.020 very powerful. She said that you don't have the right to do this. You do not have the right

00:32:07.520 to do this to your child. You do not have the right to transition your child. You don't 1.00

00:32:10.260 have that right. You don't have that right. Okay. You don't have the right to make that

00:32:15.480 decision for your child. And don't sit here and tell me that your child made that decision

00:32:20.340 because your child did not. Children can't make decisions like that. They can't consent

00:32:26.140 to that. They literally cannot. They don't have the abilities to do it, which is why I'm pretty

00:32:35.020 sure that if your son wanted to, you mentioned gun violence, should he be allowed to go buy

00:32:44.120 a gun at this age? Should it be legal for him to go buy a gun? Oh no. Why not? Okay.

00:32:52.580 Why shouldn't 12 year olds be allowed to buy guns? Explain to me. Explain to me why a 12 year 0.95

00:32:56.400 old can't buy a gun. See, you can't explain it. You cannot explain it without, without saying

00:33:03.200 something about how, about their, their lack of psychological and neurological development.

00:33:12.580 Okay. Whatever explanation you give for why 12 year olds shouldn't be allowed to buy guns,

00:33:15.500 it's going to have something to do with the fact that they're not fully developed in their brains.

00:33:19.600 They can't be trusted. They're, they're immature. They're reckless. They don't think far enough 0.73

00:33:24.660 into the future. That's your answer, right? That's your reason. Yeah. Well, that's also why they

00:33:32.140 can't choose their own genders, of course. Um, let's see. Okay. So this one, I just saw this 0.58

00:33:40.320 number right before we went on the air. So this is from the website bounding into comics. And

00:33:45.760 they mentioned something about, uh, what is a woman here? They say, so letterboxd is a social 0.99

00:33:51.420 platform that allegedly allows users to post and share their opinions about movies, whether new or old.

00:33:56.540 However, social media users noticed that something was radically different about the review list for

00:34:01.260 what is a woman. Namely, there are no reviews. Letterboxd has hidden. Okay. Listen to this

00:34:08.340 letter, letterboxd. Now this is, again, this is a site, uh, I guess kind of like Rotten Tomatoes,

00:34:13.800 except in this site, it's a special emphasis on, you know, users rating the film. So letterboxd has

00:34:23.140 hidden all reviews and ratings of the movie from public view. If you're not registered with

00:34:28.080 letterboxd, all reviews of the movie are completely hidden from site. And the rating bar that's

00:34:32.420 displayed to showcase the average score of a film has been removed. Unregistered viewers are unable to

00:34:37.620 see any reviews for the film, both negative and positive. If you're registered with letterboxd,

00:34:42.360 the site only allows you to view the reviews of people in your friends list who've already reviewed

00:34:46.660 the movie. If you go to the review screen as a registered user, it shows no reviews for the film,

00:34:51.700 despite the fact that over 1700 registered users have watched the movie as of this writing.

00:34:56.840 Um, on the reviews of page for what is a woman, you're only allowed to view the star ratings people

00:35:02.080 have given the film, but you're not allowed to read the reviews of the movie unless you go directly

00:35:05.440 to the user's page and read the review. Every other movie on the site has the listed ratings page,

00:35:09.620 recent reviews and popular reviews shown without restriction. This is just, it's just, I mean,

00:35:16.320 it's remarkable, isn't it? They are so terrified of this movie. They really are. I, I don't think,

00:35:22.240 I know I'm kind of biased and I'm, I'm, I'm promoting the movie, but has any movie in recent

00:35:28.620 history made them this afraid? Like, have they ever, has this ever happened to any other movie?

00:35:34.880 They're going this far out of their way to make sure that you can't talk about it.

00:35:38.880 censoring the review, the user reviews of the movie. That's how afraid they are of this film.

00:35:48.000 It is really incredible. And if you haven't watched the movie yet and subscribe to what to

00:35:53.200 daily wire, uh, and, or go to what, what is woman.com and subscribe to watch the movie.

00:35:56.860 This is all the more reason why you ought to do that. Okay. One of the story I really wanted to

00:35:59.780 mention here, this is from the post-millennial, um, in a, uh, an article written by Ashley St.

00:36:06.380 Claire. It says a family in California is suing Meta. That's the, now the parent company for

00:36:11.920 Facebook for their daughter's eating disorder and self-harm following her addiction to Meta's

00:36:16.900 platforms. The family of Alexis Spence is looking to hold the social media giant accountable for

00:36:21.960 severe mental health struggles they claim are a result of Meta's deliberate efforts to get preteens

00:36:26.700 addicted to their products. One group out of Seattle, the social media victims law center has taken

00:36:31.640 on Alexis, Alexis Spence's case to sue Meta on behalf of the, uh, young girl for allowing her

00:36:37.240 and countless other children to access products, which Meta knows are addictive, harmful, and

00:36:40.820 dangerous. Um, the family says that their once confident and happy daughter, Alexis, began

00:36:46.720 developing signs of depression and anxiety shortly after secretly opening an Instagram account

00:36:50.100 at just 11 years old. Through Instagram, she was exposed to a plethora of dangerous content,

00:36:54.900 including sexually explicit messages and photos from adults, as well as solicitation of sexual acts.

00:36:59.180 At 12 years old, Spence was drawing pictures of herself next to her phone with a thought bubble 1.00

00:37:04.900 above her head, saying things like kill yourself and stupid fat worthless. Spence continued to have 1.00

00:37:10.900 a severe decline in her mental health, resulting in a life-threatening eating disorder and suicidal

00:37:15.020 ideations, all of which her family attributes to social media addiction and the content Instagram

00:37:20.180 exposed her to. Now, uh, a couple of things here. I am fully on board for holding these social

00:37:29.160 media platforms accountable, especially for the damage they're doing to kids. Fully on board for

00:37:33.620 that. And they are knowingly, willingly, intentionally damaging kids in this way. And they're trying to

00:37:40.400 get kids addicted to this stuff. They know how bad it is for them. And so anything that can be done to

00:37:44.800 hold them accountable, I think is great. Sue them, whatever you can do. Fully on board for that.

00:37:50.600 Absolutely. But then there's the other part of this. There's the other piece of the puzzle,

00:37:55.880 the other part of the story, which is that this is an 11 year old girl who has access to Instagram.

00:38:03.860 Now it does say, it's not clear in the article how she accessed Instagram. It says that she opened,

00:38:10.000 okay, she opened the, uh, the account secretly. Her parents didn't know about it. So it's not as

00:38:15.940 though this isn't as bad as parents who even know that they're very young kids are on social media and

00:38:20.360 they're okay with it. But then you have to ask, well, how did she get on Instagram?

00:38:26.580 And I think we can assume based on context here that she got on Instagram because she was given a phone.

00:38:34.180 Um, now it's possible she could have opened an Instagram account some other way. You know,

00:38:38.780 maybe she used a friend's phone. She used a computer at school, something like that. If there's some

00:38:43.700 kind of family desktop in the house, maybe she went there. So we don't know exactly, but it seems like,

00:38:48.220 especially given the fact that she's drawing pictures, you know, with her, she's drawing

00:38:51.780 pictures of her sitting, sitting next to her phone, which tells me that she has a phone. Okay. So if,

00:38:56.440 if that's correct, then these parents gave their daughter a phone at 11 years old with open access

00:39:06.140 to the internet, open enough that she could open an Instagram account. Like they, they didn't even

00:39:13.420 block the social media platforms, which at a minimum, if you're going to give your kid a phone with

00:39:17.940 internet access, you can go in and block certain websites, block any website you want. So it seems

00:39:25.060 they didn't even do that, but a better option instead of giving your kid a phone and then

00:39:31.560 blocking websites, better option is just don't give her the phone. And if you really feel like

00:39:38.180 your child needs a phone for safety, because this is, this is one of the excuses parents always give

00:39:42.240 that I need a way to get in touch with my, with my kid. Now, of course, for most of human history,

00:39:48.860 parents did not have a way to immediately get in touch with their kid every second of the day

00:39:54.160 by calling them on some device that came around in their pockets and kids, you know, most kids

00:39:59.240 survive just fine without it. But if you feel like you need that, then you can give your kid a phone

00:40:03.960 that has no internet capability whatsoever. They do make phones like that.

00:40:07.160 So you really got to go out of your way and invest the money in one of these devices that's going to

00:40:16.300 do such incredible damage to your child. So I'm of, I'm, I'm a little bit split on this. I'm of two

00:40:22.760 minds. On one hand, yes, hold the social media platforms accountable. On the other hand, the parents

00:40:29.520 here are potentially looking to rake in millions of dollars in a lawsuit, yet they're the ones who gave

00:40:35.520 a phone to their kid. Okay. The blame starts with the parents. And then you go to the social media

00:40:44.240 platforms. And this is not like 50% blame. It's, it's not, we're dividing up blame. It's a hundred

00:40:51.280 percent blame goes to everybody. The social media platforms, big tech companies, they're 100% to

00:40:57.180 blame for the things that they do. But you as a parent are 100% to blame for the decisions that you

00:41:03.000 make, including giving your kid a phone. It's just inexcusable. There is no good reason for it.

00:41:10.380 And I, I, I say this somewhat rhetorically because I can understand, but in a certain sense, I can't

00:41:16.740 understand why parents continue to do this, knowing the damage that it does. Here's what we know.

00:41:25.280 If you give your 11 year old a smartphone with internet access, there's no positive result.

00:41:32.660 Okay. Nothing good's going to come of that. It's not going to enhance their lives in any way. It's not

00:41:37.260 going to make them more fulfilled, more happy. It's not going to make them better people. There's

00:41:42.380 zero chance that that happens. It will do damage. It's just a matter of how much damage will it do.

00:41:48.760 And so you give them the phone with internet access, hoping that it's not as much damage as

00:41:52.960 it could be. So now you're just playing damage control at best. A lot of parents don't even

00:41:58.800 do damage control. They just give the phone, internet access, and then say, oh, go ahead,

00:42:02.060 go up to your room. Kids sitting up in their room hours a day. It's, it's, it's nighttime. Your kid

00:42:07.440 went to bed. They've got a phone with them. You have no idea what they're doing. You, you know,

00:42:13.260 this, this world of insanity and filth that's opened up to them and they've got their phone

00:42:20.040 in their beds with them at night and you're, well, you just go to sleep. Not, no, I wouldn't

00:42:24.380 be able to sleep at night if I knew that my child had access to this kind of stuff and

00:42:29.480 I have no idea what he's doing. I wouldn't be able to, I wouldn't be able to sleep. I would

00:42:35.160 say to these parents, literally, how do you sleep at night? I don't, I don't know how you

00:42:38.220 do it. I wouldn't be able to. Do you spend any time on the internet? You know,

00:42:43.240 what's out there. You know how easy it is to access. Oh, but if we don't give our kid

00:42:49.360 a phone with internet access, then there'll be, there'll be weird. You know, it'll be weird

00:42:54.240 because all their friends have it. So you're the parent. Yeah, it will seem weird and their,

00:43:02.560 their friends will think they're weird. So what, why does that matter to you? You're the parent.

00:43:07.660 Yeah. Yeah. It's okay for a kid to, to be so invested in that and, and, and conforming

00:43:13.560 and, and the thing that they fear most of all is that they'll be seen as weird by their

00:43:17.780 peers. So I understand that your kid as a, as a child who's immersed in this world and

00:43:23.060 can't see past the nose on her face that for her, that's the worst thing in the world to

00:43:28.060 be judged by her peers. But you're the adult, you're supposed to know better. You know that

00:43:34.000 she's going to grow up and, and she's going to gradually leave school behind and none of this

00:43:41.020 is going to matter anymore. It's a, it's unbelievable to me. Stop giving your phones to

00:43:49.180 your kids, please. I beg you all, parents. Let's get now to our daily cancellation.

00:43:53.360 Who's bringing shopping carts back to the rightful place. We're becoming saints here in the sweet

00:44:04.420 baby gang. Death from above says, Matt, you misgendered Natalie Wynn. You referred to Natalie

00:44:12.720 as her when in fact, Natalie is a him, which would add more context to his position on drag queens and

00:44:17.420 kids. Uh, I, you know, I was just going based on the name. Always a risky move these days. I had no

00:44:21.880 idea. Um, but thanks for the correction. Mel says, I thought you were unfair to professor Dave. He was

00:44:27.720 a lot more objective than you make him seem. He even says in his video that males have an advantage

00:44:32.620 over biological females in sports. Yeah, he does say that in the video. Now in my response to so-called

00:44:38.860 professor Dave, and I'm starting very much to suspect that he's not a real professor though,

00:44:42.840 who knows? I mean, there are plenty of real professors as we discovered who are idiots, but, 1.00

00:44:47.200 uh, I was responding to his criticisms of the right. And then he does have a little portion at the end 0.99

00:44:55.540 where he criticizes the left on the gender issue. Mostly criticizes them essentially for not being

00:45:00.300 liberal enough, but he does mention, he does say this, yeah, that, um, he admits that biological males

00:45:06.520 have advantages over biological females in sports. Now, am I supposed to give him a, what am I, give him a pat 1.00

00:45:11.180 on the back, give him a cookie because he said that? You have no choice but to admit that. There's no way

00:45:15.340 around it. You have to admit it. But where does he go from there? He says in the video that, uh,

00:45:21.820 biological males have advantages over females, but he does not say that they should therefore be

00:45:28.000 excluded from female sports. And he, uh, he, in his cop-out is that, well, I don't care about sports, so

00:45:32.800 it's not up to me what, what team they play on. What an absolute, so you know that it's unfair, but you're

00:45:40.580 still unwilling to say that they shouldn't be allowed to do it.

00:45:46.840 Well, that doesn't, uh, that doesn't make it more objective. That just makes him more of an

00:45:49.700 intellectual coward. I did him a favor by not mentioning that. 0.99

00:45:54.620 All right, Jake says, Matt, I'm curious about your vision for what is a woman. What do you

00:45:59.360 ultimately hope it achieves? You know what I hope for, for the film? I hope that it makes itself

00:46:05.260 irrelevant. That's my ultimate hope. My ultimate hope is that what is a woman will be totally 1.00

00:46:10.100 irrelevant at some point in the future. Um, I wanted to get to a point where people see this

00:46:15.040 movie and they're, it's like a snapshot of a bygone era. It's like an anthropological study for

00:46:22.420 them. It's a time capsule where they can look back and see it and say, what the hell was happening

00:46:27.080 back then? That's what I hope. Um, I hope for a time when nothing in the film is remotely relevant

00:46:35.720 to anybody because we don't live in a totally insane society anymore.

00:46:40.660 Uh, Rose says, I watched your documentary, Matt, and you interviewed sane psychiatrists and therapists

00:46:47.400 as a therapist. I need to know, does that give you some hope that some of us are fighting back

00:46:50.820 and not going with the insanity to poison and destroy kids? It definitely, it gives me some

00:46:54.680 hope that there are some sane, good psychiatrists and therapists out there. Um, but unfortunately,

00:47:00.640 as you know, Rose, there's not enough. And even to the, even from the sane ones that I talked to,

00:47:08.040 like they all told me that, um, that the deck is stacked against them. And just by talking about

00:47:15.180 this publicly, they've offered themselves up to be sort of exiled from the industry,

00:47:21.840 which is good. It takes a lot of courage to speak out, but it just shows you that how deep the

00:47:28.200 rot is within these institutions. So I have some hope in some individual people in these institutions

00:47:35.280 who have a lot of courage and are willing to say the truth. Uh, but institutionally, I have like no

00:47:40.600 hope for the institutions. Let's see. Sam says, Kelly J. Keene reviewed your film and called herself

00:47:48.560 a female-ist rather than a feminist because she's interested in defending females. What do you think of 1.00

00:47:53.280 that? I know you're not a fan of feminism. Uh, female-ist is a interesting, you know, interesting 1.00

00:48:00.300 offshoot, interesting variation. I just don't think you need an ist. See, I don't, I don't have a,

00:48:04.140 I don't feel the need for any ist or ism when it comes to this. Um, when it comes to my defense of

00:48:10.420 biological reality, I guess I am now a biologist because I'm talking about this, but I don't really

00:48:15.680 think I need an ist or ism or a label to attach to that. It's just, uh, like Don Sucker, the Star Wars

00:48:21.900 shop owner said in the film. It's just common sense. Common sense-ism. How about that? Maybe

00:48:27.220 we'll go with that. Um, and Andrew says, I have another criticism of Professor Dave. If gender 1.00

00:48:35.020 can only be understood through complex neurobiology, why are we allowing kids to decide their own gender

00:48:40.260 instead of only allowing post-graduate college students? Uh, yes, exactly. That's one of the

00:48:46.920 many, I mean, here's one of the problems when you're trying to respond to the gender ideologues. 0.96

00:48:51.260 And I, you know, and I try to be as thorough as possible, pick it apart piece by piece,

00:48:55.380 but everything they say is just, is, is layered in so much contradiction and incoherence that,

00:49:02.660 um, you're always going to, you know, you're going to miss a few points and that's one of them.

00:49:06.400 Very good point though. Well, as, uh, as you've heard, uh, what is a woman is a huge success. 0.91

00:49:11.140 It's something that, I mean, it's, it's certainly exceeded my own expectations for what would happen

00:49:15.800 with this film and it's only a week and a half into it. So first of all, thank you for that. We

00:49:19.180 couldn't do it without you guys, without, without our subscribers. And also, um, this weekend is

00:49:24.760 the pride parade in DC. So we've got some, uh, we've got some, some things in store. We had

00:49:29.940 skywriters at the women's March and this weekend we're going to have a mobile truck showing clips 0.97

00:49:33.760 from what is a woman at the pride parade in DC. I'm very excited about that because I think there

00:49:37.800 are probably a lot of people at the pride parade who haven't had a chance to see the movie yet.

00:49:41.480 And so we want to make sure that they see it. It's just very nice of us. I mean,

00:49:45.160 we're kind of giving this away for free and you know, in the, in the process, we're changing the

00:49:49.440 gender ideology conversation and fighting back in the culture, which has never been more important

00:49:53.360 and more relevant. So celebrate pride month and the pride parade by watching what is a woman. 0.99

00:49:58.560 And if you've already seen it, then make sure to tell your friends to watch as well,

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00:50:14.760 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

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00:50:25.300 in a Greek epic poem that one who goes woke shall thus soon, as we know, go broke. Old Navy

00:50:32.040 was the latest company to learn this ancient truism with their failed experiment in plus-sized

00:50:37.260 clothing. Sorry, not plus-sized clothing. This is inclusive sizing is what they call it. That's the

00:50:41.820 new PC term of art because clothing must be inclusive. It must include skinny people,

00:50:47.760 normal-sized people, fat people, morbidly obese people, people for whom morbid obesity is a weight

00:50:53.660 loss goal. Like everyone must be included. A clothing company cannot really show off its virtue

00:50:58.640 and its commitment to inclusivity unless it sells pants that could double as boat covers. Okay. And,

00:51:04.180 and even if nobody can actually fit in those pants, and so nobody's going to buy them, you could still

00:51:09.400 show off the pants, fly them like an enormous flag to signal your wokeness to the world. It's a good way 0.96

00:51:15.320 to earn applause. It's just not a great way to earn money. And as Old Navy discovered, you kind of need

00:51:20.560 to earn money if you want your business to survive. Here's the Wall Street Journal. It says,

00:51:24.460 Old Navy set out to make clothes shopping more inclusive for women of all body types. 1.00

00:51:28.980 It ended up with too many extra small and extra large items and too few of the rest. A mismatch

00:51:34.600 that frustrated customers and contributed to fail, to falling sales and a management shakeup.

00:51:40.180 That's what paused there for a second. Um, why just women? See, we, so they, they, they did the 1.00

00:51:47.120 inclusive sizing for women. Well, the Old Navy, it's been a while since I've been in Old Navy, but they do 0.96

00:51:52.400 sell men's clothing too, don't they? I know they at least sell cargo shorts for men. So we note once again,

00:51:58.460 how the body positivity stuff focus, focuses almost entirely on women. This is why there are 0.99

00:52:03.960 no plus size male models. Have you noticed that nobody is ever using men in their fatness is

00:52:09.900 beautiful campaigns. When's the last time you saw a dude with a huge pot belly on a, on a billboard

00:52:15.580 with the words, love yourself or be confident at any size or whatever else. Never. Unless it's a

00:52:22.500 pregnant man. Okay. Then you might see it, but otherwise you don't see it. And that's because it doesn't 1.00

00:52:27.280 exist. That's because nobody cares actually, if men hate themselves. Indeed, men are supposed to

00:52:31.960 hate themselves unless they're gay or they belong to some other victim group. Um, left-wing 0.97

00:52:36.120 victimology means that nothing they say can ever be applied consistently. That's the point. There are

00:52:41.140 no universal principles in leftist thought, which is why most men are excluded from most of this.

00:52:46.260 But back to the article, it says, billed as one of the biggest launches in the brand's history,

00:52:50.640 Old Navy in August began offering all women's clothing sizes in size zero to 30 and X extra

00:52:57.880 small to four X, making it one of the first retailers to play such a big bet on inclusive

00:53:03.560 sizing. The big, big bet. I don't know if that was a pun. It did away with separate petite and 0.94

00:53:08.820 plus size departments and grouped all sizes of each style together. Mannequins and varying body shapes

00:53:14.360 displayed the new wares. All sizes of a style were priced the same, which was a break with an

00:53:20.360 industry practice in which retailers charge more for larger sizes. This is the largest integrated

00:53:24.760 launch in the brand's history and an important growth driver for the business for years to come,

00:53:28.780 according to the, uh, Gap chief executive, Sonia Singal. Now, um, just a note here, plus size

00:53:37.040 clothing costs more because it requires more material to make. And clothing is separated into

00:53:42.940 different sections because it's easier for customers to find what they're looking for that way.

00:53:46.820 And generally clothing stores will have much fewer options in the three X and four X sizes because

00:53:52.140 there are far fewer people who fit those sizes. Now I'm no business guru. Okay. Nobody's inviting

00:53:57.840 me to be an investor on shark tank or anything, but I do at least know that if you create more

00:54:03.340 expensive products, charge less for them, make the customer experience more frustrating

00:54:08.300 intentionally, make it harder for customers to find what they want. And you intentionally stock

00:54:13.320 more products that fewer of your customers want to buy, you will lose money. And it turns out that

00:54:19.400 old Navy did, uh, going back to the article, it says soon after, however, old Navy sales started to

00:54:24.080 nosedive last month, Nancy green, the chain's president and chief executive stepped down after

00:54:28.800 less than two years running the brand gap worn that sales for the spring quarter would fall short

00:54:33.160 of expectations in part due to the troubles at old Navy, the extended sizes were the culprit.

00:54:37.140 According to current and former employees stores were selling out of the middle sizes and were stuck

00:54:41.440 with piles of very small and very large sizes. The employee said to clear out the excess goods,

00:54:46.460 old Navy put a large quantity of women's clothing on sale this spring, which contrasts with other

00:54:50.880 retailers that have held the line on discounting because of strong demand and supply chain challenges.

00:54:55.940 Now, ultimately old Navy announced that it would be removing the inclusive sizes from 75 of its stores.

00:55:02.440 And this has enraged body positivity advocates who as always, um, are not going to give you points

00:55:08.540 for trying old Navy tried to appease them, lost millions of dollars, and then had to backtrack.

00:55:15.680 But the body positivity folks demand that old Navy fully drive itself into bankruptcy

00:55:19.540 because that's what would make them feel better about themselves.

00:55:23.620 For example, one fat liberation quote unquote advocate on Tik TOK actually checked to see how

00:55:29.180 many old Navy stores no longer sell plus size clothing. And in the process, she uncovered a major scandal.

00:55:35.460 Watch this. Remember the statement that old Navy keeps saying that they're only cutting back plus

00:55:41.480 sizes in 75 stores in the U S I may have done something bad. This is what it looks like. If

00:55:47.580 the plus size are carried there, see how it says shop plus women's here and see how this one has nothing. 1.00

00:55:54.380 I made an Excel spreadsheet and I'm going through each state and you can see there's a good number

00:56:03.700 that don't carry plus sizes. So far, I have only gotten through six states, but there's a total of

00:56:11.520 a hundred that do not carry plus sizes more than 75. It's going to take me a while, but should I keep

00:56:20.060 going? Sure. Why not? You got nothing, nothing better to do. Apparently, uh, continue making your

00:56:25.720 spreadsheet. Maybe, um, you know, consider hopping on a treadmill while you're tabulating the results.

00:56:31.240 I don't say that to be rude. Okay. There's an important point, important point here. This person is going

00:56:36.300 through all of this effort to find stores with plus size clothing, spending hours researching every old Navy

00:56:43.000 location in the country, making spreadsheets, filming Tik TOK videos. She's devoted her life to fat

00:56:48.420 liberation. She's doing all of this when she could simply go on a diet and none of this would be an 0.93

00:56:53.620 issue. See the real way to achieve fat liberation is to eat a salad. Now, of course you can't even point

00:57:00.240 this out anymore without sounding like a bully. That's because we consider it bullying to do or say

00:57:05.560 anything that might cause another person to engage in any sort of honest self-criticism.

00:57:09.220 Well, depending on who the other person is, as noted, no principle is universal in our culture,

00:57:14.180 but if the person's in a favored class, you must not ever cause them to look critically at

00:57:18.620 themselves or at their own behavior. You can be guilty of bullying in this regard, even if you're

00:57:24.040 not trying. So for example, this is pretty incredible. Listen to this. Um, Sydney Sweeney is an

00:57:30.080 actress, I think, and she showed up to the MTV awards this past weekend because apparently the MTV

00:57:35.020 awards happened this past weekend. And like so many young women at so many MTV award ceremonies

00:57:41.060 before her, Sweeney was dressed in clothing that barely qualifies as clothing at all. She was scantily

00:57:45.680 clad in other words, and now she's being criticized, criticized largely by young leftists on social

00:57:51.540 media for her immodest attire. They have a problem with her lack of modesty, not because they care about 1.00

00:57:59.300 modesty per se, but because her physical appearance makes them feel bad about themselves.

00:58:05.040 So here's the Yahoo article about the controversy. It says, although Sweeney pulls it off beautifully,

00:58:10.560 reluctance from onlookers to praise the outfit has less to do with styling than it does the messaging

00:58:15.060 about beauty and body standards. Quote, no shade to beautiful Sydney, but I'm sad we're seeing more

00:58:21.160 of this ultra low rise waist and ultra flat tummy look again. According to one person on Instagram,

00:58:26.120 someone else said, so coveted yet unachievable for so many of us with different builds.

00:58:31.680 Someone else said, watch body positivity go down the drain once the low ride fashion takes over 1.00

00:58:36.920 again. And someone else said, low rise never again. Young generations, learn from the past.

00:58:42.800 Don't ruin your body. Similar sentiments have been expressed by body acceptance advocates who have

00:58:48.260 watched the micro miniskirts comeback. The trend is among others from the early 2000s that have seen a

00:58:52.980 resurgence. However, it is seemingly the most exclusive. Quote, this set is created with this very thin

00:58:59.440 body in mind. It's not created for plus. And so that in and of itself is frustrating. According to some

00:59:05.980 co-founder of something called power of plus, quote, a lot of it too feels very glorifying of a body type that

00:59:12.740 we've been working against actively for many years now. Wait, hold on a second. We've been working

00:59:20.060 against a body type. I thought we're supposed to accept all body types. See, they're criticizing not

00:59:26.540 just the outfit, but the body type, the body itself. They don't have a problem with the way the clothing

00:59:32.320 looks. They certainly don't have a problem with women wearing skimpy outfits. If that was Lizzo 1.00

00:59:37.120 dressed like that at the awards ceremony, which she probably was if she was there, they'd be tripping 0.99

00:59:42.520 over themselves to extol her beauty and boldness. I mean, Lizzo could, and I think she's actually done

00:59:47.440 this, just walk down the red carpet completely nude. And they would be saying, this is the

00:59:52.220 greatest thing they've ever seen in their lives. No, they have a problem when it comes to this woman

00:59:58.180 with that kind of body, namely an in-shape healthy body, because it makes them feel bad about their

01:00:04.160 bodies. And anything that makes them feel bad is bad. Even some other person's actual entire body

01:00:11.700 can be bad if looking at it makes them feel bad. This, by the way, is the reason why left-wing

01:00:18.160 trans activists have such disdain for women. Because actual women remind them of what they'll 1.00

01:00:23.800 never be, and that makes them feel bad. And so women are bad, and they're morally entitled to 1.00

01:00:29.060 treat them that way. This is the madness that inevitably results from emphasizing self-perception 0.99

01:00:35.100 over reality. When we declare that affirmation is necessary for emotional well-being, and that

01:00:41.340 emotional well-being is just as important, if not more important, than physical well-being,

01:00:45.880 this is where we end up. Soon they're going to be strapping skinny women onto gurneys and force-feeding 1.00

01:00:51.680 them Cinnabons just to make sure that everyone is equally fat and unhealthy, so that none of us ever 0.77

01:00:56.240 have to feel bad about being fat and unhealthy ourselves. This is the mentality that Old Navy tried to

01:01:01.680 cater to, and they paid the expected price. That's why they are today canceled. And that'll do it for

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