The Matt Walsh Show - August 01, 2022


Ep. 996 - White Slaves, And Other Inconvenient Historical Facts


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 4 minutes

Words per Minute

177.1556

Word Count

11,364

Sentence Count

715

Misogynist Sentences

29

Hate Speech Sentences

31


Summary

The outrage mob is coming after me because I mentioned the forbidden historical fact that white people were slaves too. But why is this fact forbidden, and why does it matter? We ll discuss. Also, the Biden administration gears up to forgive student loans. Plus, a Democrat congresswoman flips off her Republican colleagues and then cries sexism to excuse herself. And our daily cancellation at Artis goes viral with dozens of comics bitterly complaining about her husband. We ll talk about all that and much more today on the Matt Walsh Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, the outrage mob is coming after me because I mentioned the forbidden historical fact that white people were slaves too.
00:00:07.560 But why is this fact forbidden and why does it matter? We'll discuss.
00:00:10.660 Also, the Biden administration gears up to forgive student loans, and by forgive we mean transfer the loans to people who didn't take them out.
00:00:16.940 Plus, a Democrat congresswoman flips off her Republican colleagues and then cries sexism to excuse herself.
00:00:21.820 And our daily cancellation at Artis goes viral with dozens of comics bitterly complaining about her husband.
00:00:27.240 We'll talk about all that and much more today on the Matt Walsh Show.
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00:02:02.740 You know, over the weekend, I finished the book Skeletons on the Zahara.
00:02:07.720 It tells the story of James Riley, captain of the merchant ship Commerce, which shipwrecked off the coast of North Africa in 1815.
00:02:15.000 Riley, along with his entire crew, found themselves stranded in the vast Saharan desert,
00:02:19.480 where they began to die from thirst and exposure almost immediately.
00:02:23.880 That was only the beginning of their troubles, of course.
00:02:25.820 The men were soon seized and enslaved by a band of desert nomads.
00:02:29.300 And from that point, the crew was split off in different directions as each man was sold and traded from one nomad to the next.
00:02:35.780 They were abused, starved, beaten, found themselves on a hierarchy where white slaves,
00:02:40.660 Christian dogs, as they were called in Arabic, occupied a rung on the social ladder somewhere well beneath camels and probably donkeys.
00:02:48.200 And at one point, Captain James Riley was traded for an old blanket, just to give you an idea of how much they were valued.
00:02:53.720 Several of the slaves were lost into the interior of the continent and never were heard from or seen again.
00:03:00.540 Doomed to live out their lives in bondage, though their lives would have been mercifully short.
00:03:05.000 You could only live so long when you're being used as a pack animal in the desert and forced to subsist on snails and camel urine,
00:03:11.640 which is what they were consuming most of the time.
00:03:14.000 But Riley and a few of his men managed to escape with the assistance of a comparatively merciful Arab
00:03:19.480 who ransomed them for several hundred dollars and a couple of muskets.
00:03:23.820 Yet, the survivors never escaped the physical or mental trauma of their experiences, and most of them died relatively young.
00:03:31.620 But two of them, including Riley, did publish books about their experiences,
00:03:35.460 and both books were sensations at the time that they were published.
00:03:39.020 Captain James Riley would become a household name.
00:03:42.060 Even Abraham Lincoln named his book Sufferings in Africa as one of his greatest inspirations.
00:03:46.380 The funny thing, though, is that this incredible and true tale,
00:03:51.400 which was once widely known and renowned across the country,
00:03:54.940 has faded into obscurity in recent years.
00:03:58.380 In fact, the author of Skeletons on the Zahara, Dean King,
00:04:02.600 only found out about the story and decided to write a book about it
00:04:05.500 after stumbling across an old, dusty, leather-bound copy of Riley's memoir
00:04:10.820 while researching another book at the New York Yacht Club Library in 1995.
00:04:14.740 It's the only reason he even knew about this.
00:04:18.540 So, why don't more people know about this story?
00:04:21.160 Why isn't it taught in schools?
00:04:23.200 Why haven't there been movies made based on it?
00:04:25.660 It is an incredible story.
00:04:27.640 The book was actually adapted as a screenplay before it was even published
00:04:31.080 with DreamWorks attached back in, like, 2001.
00:04:34.180 But the film was never made.
00:04:35.580 And then five years, or rather ten years later, in 2010,
00:04:38.720 another screenplay was written.
00:04:40.420 But that project also fizzled out.
00:04:42.600 The movie was never made.
00:04:43.320 Well, there's no mystery here, of course.
00:04:46.700 This story has fallen into the cracks of history
00:04:48.980 because it touches the tip of an iceberg
00:04:50.760 that our educational establishment, the media, and Hollywood
00:04:53.980 would all prefer that we not acknowledge or explore.
00:04:57.360 And that would be the subject of white slaves in Africa.
00:05:01.520 Riley and his men were not the only ones, not by a long shot.
00:05:04.600 In fact, over the course of a few centuries,
00:05:06.660 well over a million white people were enslaved in northern Africa.
00:05:10.580 A million.
00:05:11.060 Some of them detained and enslaved after being shipwrecked,
00:05:15.520 but the vast majority were abducted right off of ships still at sea
00:05:18.460 or from coastal European communities by Muslim raiders
00:05:21.720 who carried them back to Africa to be sold, traded, or ransomed.
00:05:25.720 In some cases, entire communities, coastal European communities, were ransacked.
00:05:32.320 Hundreds of people captured at one time.
00:05:34.440 You know, the United States fought a whole war, a series of them, the Barbary Wars,
00:05:39.180 to put a stop to this practice.
00:05:41.280 There's a reason, though, that school curricula tends to skip over that conflict,
00:05:44.840 going from, you know, the Revolutionary War to the War of 1812 to the Civil War,
00:05:50.120 hop, skipping, and jumping over some of these more uncomfortable and troublesome episodes.
00:05:54.960 There's a concerted effort in our society to erase, ignore, and cover up
00:06:00.420 not just the story of white slaves in Africa,
00:06:03.580 but almost the entire global history of slavery in general.
00:06:08.060 The impression that we're supposed to have is that the transatlantic slave trade,
00:06:12.980 white Westerners enslaving Africans,
00:06:14.800 which was actually only a small piece of the transatlantic slave trade,
00:06:18.200 but that's the only form of slavery that ever existed.
00:06:20.500 That's the impression we're supposed to have.
00:06:21.640 Black Africans were the victims, white Americans and Europeans were the villains.
00:06:26.660 End of story.
00:06:28.300 And this is indeed what many people believe,
00:06:30.760 because that is what our culture wants them to believe.
00:06:34.760 This point was driven home when I posted a thread
00:06:37.820 about the true history of slavery to Twitter on Saturday.
00:06:41.260 Thinking about all these issues, you know, after having just finished the book,
00:06:44.900 I posted this.
00:06:46.040 This is what I said.
00:06:47.600 Well over one million whites were enslaved in Northern Africa
00:06:50.600 between the 16th and 19th centuries, most of them abducted and sold by Muslim pirates.
00:06:54.540 Africans were raiding Europe for slaves for hundreds of years.
00:06:57.300 The school system has totally erased this fact from history.
00:07:00.560 Continuing.
00:07:01.480 Of course, white people were enslaved in other parts of Africa too
00:07:03.960 and across the world for centuries, including in North America,
00:07:06.260 where white servants, quote unquote, were shipped to the colonies by the thousands.
00:07:10.620 Slavery in America didn't begin in 1619.
00:07:12.960 White children were being kidnapped and sold into servitude in the colonies before that.
00:07:16.600 And of course, slavery existed in the Americas for hundreds of years prior to Europeans ever
00:07:20.960 setting foot there.
00:07:21.760 Indian tribes all practiced slavery.
00:07:24.060 Slavery persisted in non-Western countries long after it had been abolished in the West.
00:07:28.380 Slavery was an accepted institution in Africa and Asia for millennia,
00:07:31.760 and it seems to have never occurred to any of these societies
00:07:33.640 that there might have been something wrong with the practice.
00:07:36.200 And of course, the African slave trade was mostly furnished by Africans capturing other Africans
00:07:40.380 and selling them into bondage.
00:07:41.980 The African slave trade was abolished by the West, not by Africa.
00:07:46.460 Slavery remained legal in parts of Africa well into the 20th century.
00:07:50.700 Actually, I should have said that slavery was abolished against the,
00:07:55.600 not just, you know, without the help of the non-Western world,
00:07:58.040 but against the objections of the non-Western world was the slave trade abolished.
00:08:02.680 Everything I wrote there is as true as it is unknown to the average American.
00:08:06.900 But predictably, the outrage mob has been screaming at me for the past two days because of this,
00:08:13.200 calling me a Nazi, accusing me of excusing or justifying or minimizing the enslavement
00:08:18.920 of black people, accusing me of upholding white supremacy, quote unquote.
00:08:23.900 My messages and emails have been, as you can imagine, even more colorful than that.
00:08:28.380 But the attacks have come from the right as well.
00:08:31.680 This is not all from the left.
00:08:32.580 Maj Touré is a prominent gun rights activist.
00:08:36.880 Maybe you've seen him on Fox News, maybe you've seen him on YouTube.
00:08:40.100 He launched into a tirade that included many tweets and several videos about me.
00:08:44.560 Beginning with this response, he said,
00:08:46.340 Dumb, reductive, and horrible attempt at justifying the transatlantic slave trade take here.
00:08:52.480 Conservatives love going full retard and damaging any inroads into black communities with these kind of takes.
00:08:58.180 I just big up, dude, for the what is a woman film and then this.
00:09:02.580 Yes, how dare I say something he disagrees with after he just said he likes my movie.
00:09:07.240 I should have known that his endorsement of my film puts me in debt to him for life.
00:09:10.280 I didn't realize that.
00:09:12.820 Others on the right agreed with him, including Aja Smith, who's a GOP congressional candidate,
00:09:17.220 who tweeted,
00:09:18.280 Maj was correct for calling him out.
00:09:20.200 Far too long.
00:09:20.960 Folks are silent when they see and hear a wrong.
00:09:23.700 That's why we're in this disinformation that we're in.
00:09:26.020 Now, despite my urging, I could not get Smith to explain what part of my statement was disinformation.
00:09:33.380 Most of the people angry at me for talking about this issue could not even begin to explain,
00:09:37.820 didn't try to explain, how or why I'm wrong.
00:09:41.800 There was at least one exception.
00:09:43.180 Well-known Twitch streamer, to the extent that any Twitch streamer can be called well-known,
00:09:47.320 Hassan Piker, tried to debunk at least one of the things that I said about slavery.
00:09:52.000 Let's listen to that attempt.
00:09:53.160 Matt Walsh.
00:09:55.480 Well, over one million whites were enslaved in North Africa between the 16th and 19th centuries.
00:09:59.360 Most of them abducted and sold by Muslim pirates.
00:10:01.300 Africans were raiding Europe for slaves for hundreds of years.
00:10:03.840 The school system has totally erased this fact from history.
00:10:06.780 First of all, you know, the glories of Muslim pirates doing that was erased,
00:10:16.160 probably because the Western world was embarrassed by the L that they held,
00:10:20.640 most likely to the Ottoman Empire.
00:10:22.640 Most frequently to the Ottoman Empire, the sick man of Europe.
00:10:26.460 Okay.
00:10:28.780 Of course, white people were enslaved in other parts of Africa too and across the world for centuries,
00:10:32.780 including in North America, where white servants were shipped to the colonies by the thousands.
00:10:37.600 Matt Walsh is doing the classic like chattel slavery is the same as indentured servitude,
00:10:42.100 which of course it's not.
00:10:43.460 Indentured servitude in and of itself is, of course, still completely unacceptable, obviously.
00:10:49.220 But the main differences in that situation is that you can actually purchase your way,
00:10:54.720 you can purchase your freedom.
00:10:55.800 Not that it's like super likely or whatever, but you can do that
00:10:58.420 where there was no purchasing of your freedom as a black slave, okay?
00:11:02.820 Your child was immediately also seen as property, whereas indentured servitude doesn't work that way as well.
00:11:09.600 And that's precisely why there is a difference between the way that like Irishmen
00:11:17.860 or the way that Italians or the way that like whoever the fuck we're talking about in this situation
00:11:22.400 were able to assimilate or be welcomed into white society in comparison to black people,
00:11:30.460 which Matt Walsh, of course, still doesn't want to welcome into white society.
00:11:35.620 So there you go.
00:11:36.840 Now, we're going to be generous and ignore the part where he refers to the glories,
00:11:43.600 his words, of Muslims enslaving white people.
00:11:46.460 He considers that a glory.
00:11:49.140 And instead, we're going to focus on his claims about indentured servitude.
00:11:52.380 This is totally different from chattel slavery, he says.
00:11:55.880 And I've heard a lot of this.
00:11:56.860 You hear a lot of this, this attempt to distinguish chattel slavery from other kinds of slavery.
00:12:01.720 Well, in the West, there was chattel slavery, which is so much worse than all the other kinds of slavery.
00:12:05.380 Well, chattel just means property, right?
00:12:07.660 So chattel slavery is when the slave is property.
00:12:10.820 Well, that's slavery.
00:12:11.760 That's the definition of slavery is when someone is made property.
00:12:16.100 So there is no coherent distinction to be made between slavery and chattel slavery.
00:12:22.780 This is just what people do when they, in fact, are looking to minimize or justify one type of slavery
00:12:28.840 and separate it from other types.
00:12:31.940 In the indentured servitude thing, he says, well, this is very different.
00:12:34.860 But that's also incorrect.
00:12:36.580 In a book called White Cargo, The Forgotten History of Britain's White Slaves in America,
00:12:40.260 authors Don Jordan and Michael Walsh explain, no relation, by the way, as far as I know,
00:12:44.380 that in most cases, an indentured servant, so-called, was simply a slave by another name.
00:12:50.740 The servants were bought, sold, and traded like any other slave, like any other property.
00:12:56.860 And though their period of bondage was supposed to be temporary,
00:12:59.780 oftentimes they were kept in servitude for life after their sentence was complete
00:13:05.040 because there was no one around to enforce the terms of the deal.
00:13:09.260 Many others were worked to death long before they could be freed.
00:13:12.340 Many of these, quote-unquote, indentured servants, when they were shipped to the Americas,
00:13:17.340 died within a year because they were worked to death.
00:13:20.760 They were worked harder than you worked your livestock.
00:13:23.760 Also, as the authors explain, many of the servants did not choose that arrangement at all.
00:13:30.020 Kids were kidnapped off the street and sold into servitude.
00:13:33.860 Others were coaxed there on false pretenses and then enslaved.
00:13:37.820 So yes, there were white slaves in America.
00:13:40.060 There were a lot of them.
00:13:41.800 As a New York Times review of White Cargo says in its concluding sentence,
00:13:45.360 this again is the New York Times, which wrote this, but this was 15 years ago,
00:13:49.280 there are probably tens of millions of Americans who are descended from white slaves without even knowing it.
00:13:56.780 You don't often hear that brought up in the reparations conversation, do you?
00:14:01.520 Now, the fact that white people were slaves should not come as a surprise anyway,
00:14:05.360 given that the word slaves comes from Slav
00:14:08.140 because Slavic people historically were so often enslaved.
00:14:13.120 Was the enslavement of black people in America completely different in its barbarity
00:14:17.120 from all other forms of slavery across the world and throughout history?
00:14:20.400 No.
00:14:21.280 We've already discussed the conditions of white slaves in Africa
00:14:23.820 and of white children abducted and shipped to America and then literally worked to death.
00:14:27.380 What we see very quickly from any honest study of the history of slavery
00:14:30.500 is that it was unspeakably brutal in all of its forms.
00:14:35.980 Galley slaves on Arab ships were kept in chains for years at a time,
00:14:39.640 not allowed to leave the ship.
00:14:41.580 And then if a British patrol approached and they thought that the slaves were going to be liberated,
00:14:45.240 they would just cut their throats and throw them overboard.
00:14:48.900 Slaves in the Americas before the arrival of Europeans,
00:14:51.740 that is, slaves owned by Native American tribes because they all owned slaves,
00:14:55.220 were frequently tortured and brutalized, especially in Mesoamerica,
00:14:58.360 where they often would be gutted, dismembered, and sometimes cannibalized during religious rituals.
00:15:04.140 It was not good to be a slave anywhere, let's just say.
00:15:06.960 Maybe we could leave it at that.
00:15:09.700 America was not unique in its relationship with slavery.
00:15:12.580 It wasn't even unique in its exploitation of the transatlantic slave trade.
00:15:17.160 Most slaves from Africa were shipped not to the U.S., but to the Middle East and South America.
00:15:23.460 What makes the U.S.A. different for most countries is not that it had slaves.
00:15:28.180 In that fact, it's on the same footing as literally every other country that had existed on Earth until that point,
00:15:33.220 but that it had slaves for such a comparatively short amount of time.
00:15:36.260 But does this matter?
00:15:41.380 I mean, should we be talking about any of this?
00:15:44.760 Well, yes, it matters.
00:15:46.440 It matters because it's true,
00:15:49.020 and it's a truth that a lot of people aren't aware of,
00:15:52.740 and it matters because we cannot study history,
00:15:57.400 and most importantly, learn from it,
00:15:59.680 if we're determined to only look at little pieces of the bigger stories.
00:16:06.160 That's why it matters most of all.
00:16:10.040 Slavery was not America's sin or the Western world's sin.
00:16:14.440 It was the entire world's sin.
00:16:17.740 One that the Western world ultimately did far more to stamp out and rectify than anyone else.
00:16:23.840 This is the entire world.
00:16:25.320 I mean, for thousands of years.
00:16:27.780 It's not just that slavery existed for thousands of years.
00:16:30.240 It's that for thousands of years across the world,
00:16:32.760 it hardly even occurred to anyone,
00:16:35.900 even some of the greatest philosophical and religious thinkers for thousands of years across the world,
00:16:42.340 hardly even occurred to anyone that there might be something wrong with the practice in and of itself.
00:16:47.780 There are people who spoke out against the conditions of slaves, against the abuse of slaves,
00:16:51.380 but very, it's very, very rarely did you hear anyone even get close to criticizing slavery as an institution.
00:17:00.660 This was a massive moral blind spot that virtually everyone who existed on Earth for thousands of years shared.
00:17:10.600 That's an important story.
00:17:17.220 That there could be a blind spot like that, that everyone shares.
00:17:23.700 Something we should probably talk about and think about and learn from.
00:17:29.500 Because as I said, it's the truth.
00:17:30.860 And the thing about the truth is that the more you tell me not to say it, the louder I'll be about it.
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00:19:02.540 So, this, you know, this is just, this is how it goes.
00:19:07.160 You tell me to stop talking about it, then I do a 15-minute monologue about it to start the week.
00:19:11.120 That's just the way this works.
00:19:13.420 And, in fact, that ended up, that ended up superseding what I was going to start the show with today originally,
00:19:21.400 which was the issue of student loans.
00:19:23.980 Because there's a couple of things going on on that issue that are important.
00:19:27.940 So, first of all, we have this from NPR.
00:19:30.480 It says, a new report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office finds the U.S. Department of Education
00:19:34.800 miscalculated the cost of the federal student loan program.
00:19:40.160 Miscalculated is a generous understatement, let's say.
00:19:45.180 From 1997 to 2021, the Education Department estimated that payments from federal direct student loans
00:19:51.060 would generate $114 billion for the government.
00:19:55.640 But the Government Accountability Office found that, as of 2021,
00:20:00.320 the program had actually cost the government an estimated $197 billion.
00:20:06.000 A percentage of that shortfall, $102 billion,
00:20:08.740 stems from the unprecedented federal student loan payment pause that began under the CARES Act of 2020.
00:20:13.880 The pause has been extended several times under former President Trump and President Biden.
00:20:17.900 The most recent extension runs through August 31st.
00:20:20.280 A bigger reason for the $311 billion difference, report says,
00:20:24.960 is that initial predictions did not account for the high percentage of borrowers
00:20:28.580 who ended up enrolling in income-driven repayment plans.
00:20:31.880 About half of all direct loans are now paid through these plans,
00:20:34.500 which are designed to help people who can't afford to make large monthly payments
00:20:37.780 and which promise loan cancellation after 20 to 25 years.
00:20:41.060 So, what do we learn from this?
00:20:42.340 First of all, the Department of Education is incompetent, useless, should not exist,
00:20:45.960 and it's really bad at estimating the costs of things.
00:20:50.200 To the extent of estimating a $114 billion windfall,
00:20:55.500 that in reality becomes a nearly $200 billion loss, a money pit.
00:21:01.200 And that should make you really nervous about this.
00:21:03.500 This is a story from Business Insider.
00:21:05.100 It says,
00:21:05.240 The Education Department is ready to cancel student debt once President Joe Biden gives the word,
00:21:10.140 according to Politico.
00:21:10.980 On Thursday, Politico released a report detailing internal memos within the Education Department
00:21:15.040 on plans to carry out broad student loan forgiveness.
00:21:17.740 Biden has considered moving to cancel $10,000 in student debt for borrowers making under $150,000.
00:21:23.400 And the report says the department is prepared to provide that relief within months of any announcement
00:21:27.300 for borrowers whose income information is available.
00:21:29.680 For example, borrowers without income information readily available to the department would apply
00:21:35.780 through a form on studentave.gov to self-certify their income and qualifications for relief per the report.
00:21:42.720 So, the Department of Education is ready to do this.
00:21:45.160 The most recent student loan pause, as it said, is up at the end of this month that just began.
00:21:52.600 So, either Biden is going to kick the can down the road some more and pause it again,
00:21:57.320 which I wouldn't be surprised if he does because he's just going to keep pausing until we get to the midterms,
00:22:01.320 which at this point it would take, I think, one more pause and you're past the midterms.
00:22:04.500 Or he's going to institute some sort of student loan forgiveness.
00:22:10.100 Now, on this issue of student debt and so-called forgiveness,
00:22:15.600 which is a euphemism that I'm using myself because I'm reading it in these articles,
00:22:19.480 but it is, we should keep in mind, it is a euphemism.
00:22:21.600 Because it's actually not possible.
00:22:24.220 This is not something that anyone has a magic wand where they can wave it and say,
00:22:28.180 oh, you are forgiven.
00:22:29.760 Go in peace, my child.
00:22:31.300 You are absolved of your debts.
00:22:34.420 No, as I always point out, this is not student loan forgiveness.
00:22:37.520 It is student loan transferal.
00:22:39.700 It is debt transferal, not debt forgiveness.
00:22:43.100 All debt forgiveness is debt transferal.
00:22:46.920 Because somebody is left holding the bag.
00:22:49.340 Someone has to pay the debt.
00:22:50.480 It's just a matter of who is it going to be.
00:22:55.760 And on that topic of who it's going to be,
00:22:57.920 I thought this poll from Nina Turner, who's a, I don't know, she's a leftist mouthpiece.
00:23:03.220 She has a blue check on Twitter, so she must be important.
00:23:06.320 She was, she sent out this poll about student debt,
00:23:10.280 and she obviously wanted it to go a certain way.
00:23:13.160 The way she phrases the poll, she says,
00:23:14.880 should the president cancel student debt?
00:23:17.140 And then the options are, no, people should suffer.
00:23:21.860 Yes, $10,000.
00:23:23.840 Yes, $50,000.
00:23:24.980 Or cancel all of it, in exclamation points.
00:23:27.960 Now, she's phrased it that way because obviously she's hoping that everyone will hit on,
00:23:31.860 hit the cancel all of it option there.
00:23:34.660 I mean, obviously, when you phrase it, no, people should suffer,
00:23:37.720 no one's going to click on that.
00:23:40.140 But in fact, people did.
00:23:41.380 So what she ended up with is almost 69% of the respondents of her poll answered,
00:23:48.160 no, people should suffer.
00:23:51.460 And I actually, even though this was not intentional,
00:23:55.440 and the way she phrased it was meant to skew the results in favor of debt forgiveness,
00:24:00.100 I actually love the way she phrased it because inadvertently she brings up a good point.
00:24:08.140 And it's a question of who should suffer.
00:24:13.200 And when you answer no, you know, when you say no,
00:24:16.320 the president should not cancel student debt,
00:24:20.000 you're saying no, people should suffer, but not just people in general.
00:24:24.820 Well, it's that the people who took out the loans should suffer because of those loans.
00:24:33.120 Yes, that's my position.
00:24:35.880 And if that sounds cruel or uncaring,
00:24:39.120 well, how could you think that people should suffer
00:24:40.640 from the consequences of the choices they made?
00:24:44.520 Well, because, and look, I would love it if nobody ever had to suffer ever again.
00:24:48.300 That would be my preference.
00:24:49.540 So if that was the poll, you know,
00:24:55.340 if there was a poll where we could click a certain option or press a button
00:24:58.860 and no one ever has to suffer again, then I would take that option.
00:25:03.520 But unfortunately, we live in reality.
00:25:06.500 And that's never the option in reality.
00:25:09.240 So really, it's a question of not whether people should suffer,
00:25:12.740 but who should suffer.
00:25:14.320 There is some suffering that's going to happen.
00:25:16.960 It just is.
00:25:19.540 Who's going to have to carry that burden?
00:25:22.120 There is a cross that has to be carried.
00:25:24.420 Someone's going to have to carry it.
00:25:25.380 Who's it going to be?
00:25:25.980 Well, there are two options.
00:25:29.120 Either the mostly upper class college graduates who took out these loans
00:25:35.620 can suffer because of them.
00:25:37.980 You know, that's one option.
00:25:39.980 Or the people who didn't take out the loans can suffer
00:25:44.320 because of the loans that the upper class college grads took out.
00:25:50.200 People who took out the loans suffer or the people who didn't suffer.
00:25:55.700 And another way you could break this down is that, you know,
00:25:58.800 upper class college grads can suffer or middle class working class people can suffer.
00:26:02.680 And of those two options, yeah, the people who took out the loans should do the suffering
00:26:08.140 for the choices that they made.
00:26:12.080 The person who should suffer from the mistake is the person who made it.
00:26:15.440 Yes, definitely.
00:26:19.700 That's, there's not much to even think about there.
00:26:23.540 And let's make no mistake about this, that if we have student debt, quote unquote, forgiveness,
00:26:29.780 yeah, it might be, it might be a temporary relief for the people who, you know, just look and,
00:26:36.220 oh, my debt's gone away.
00:26:38.660 But there's going to be a lot of suffering because of it.
00:26:40.760 I mean, that money is going to come from somewhere.
00:26:45.760 And as much as the Democrats might claim, oh, it's going to come from billionaires.
00:26:49.420 No, it's going to come from the working class because it always does.
00:26:53.140 They're always the ones who end up holding the bag.
00:26:55.100 And then there are other consequences, too, like inflation.
00:27:02.960 Okay, inflation that is already causing much suffering.
00:27:08.720 And now you're talking about canceling all student debt, now inflation.
00:27:11.940 Is that going to help inflation or hurt it?
00:27:16.180 Is that going to help us in battling inflation or is that going to hurt us is the question.
00:27:21.180 So this would mean suffering for a lot of people and it would mean suffering for the people
00:27:24.500 who did not make that choice to begin with.
00:27:30.440 This is just, it's, it's, it's not a fun reality.
00:27:34.660 And in fact, I am sympathetic.
00:27:37.460 I'm sympathetic to the people who took out these loans because they were duped into it
00:27:43.800 and they were convinced, you know, by the education system, by their high school guidance counselors,
00:27:52.220 by their own parents, by the media, by everybody, by the college, you know, by the university
00:27:57.540 system, especially that they have to take out these loans and purchase this really expensive
00:28:02.440 piece of paper, purchase the degree, because if they don't, then they're going to be failures
00:28:06.840 and they're never going to have any chances at success in life.
00:28:09.660 That's a lie.
00:28:10.480 It's a scam, but, uh, there were a lot of people that were duped into it and I feel bad for those
00:28:15.860 people.
00:28:16.200 I'm very sympathetic to them, but my sympathy dries up the moment you take your hand and
00:28:24.460 try to reach into somebody else's pocket.
00:28:27.320 Okay.
00:28:28.840 The moment you try to offload your suffering onto someone else, that's when my sympathy goes
00:28:34.760 away just like that.
00:28:35.440 It's gone.
00:28:35.820 It evaporates.
00:28:36.380 I have none left for you.
00:28:40.240 Now, if you are carrying this burden with, uh, some stoicism, you know, if you're, if
00:28:46.840 you're carrying it with some courage and strength and saying that like, this is really, really
00:28:50.760 hard and it's not fair and I was lied to and I paid six figures for this stupid piece
00:28:59.320 of paper, which has done nothing for me, but you carry it because there's no other choice
00:29:05.900 and the last thing you're going to do is expect anyone else to carry it for you.
00:29:09.640 You know, if you do that, then, then all the sympathy in the world.
00:29:16.220 There's just no, there is no magic wand way around this.
00:29:18.800 What we can start thinking about and talking about is what do we do going forward?
00:29:26.840 Because we're left with this really difficult situation.
00:29:30.120 Um, and it's a very unfair situation for a lot of people.
00:29:34.640 It's just that, you know, it, yes, I think it's, it is, it is unfair.
00:29:37.620 I mean, the idea like 18 years old, you can make a choice like this.
00:29:40.620 These 18 year old kids don't know what they're doing.
00:29:42.020 So it is unfair.
00:29:44.780 It's just that it becomes even more unfair.
00:29:46.900 So if it's, if it's already unfair in many ways to expect people who took out these loans
00:29:51.440 when they're 18 to pay them back, how much more unfair is it to expect people who never
00:29:55.660 took out the loans to pay them back?
00:29:59.080 But if we want to rectify the unfair situation in the future, what we have to do is start telling
00:30:07.560 people the truth, start telling kids the truth.
00:30:09.440 You don't need to go to college.
00:30:13.240 It's not just that college is unnecessary.
00:30:15.320 It is that it is a, it is in many cases malignant.
00:30:20.600 And the college, the university system's overall effect on the culture has been generally malignant
00:30:26.780 for decades now.
00:30:31.660 You can just sidestep that completely and go off and have a lot of success in life.
00:30:37.180 It is possible.
00:30:37.780 And the really great thing is that if you do, if you do just leap right over this thing
00:30:44.880 that they told, this step that they told you you had to take and you go off and you live
00:30:49.180 your life down the line, when you're, when you're older and you actually have some financial
00:30:55.660 means, if you decide that you actually do want to go to college, you still can.
00:30:59.200 It's, it'll still be there for you.
00:31:00.460 That's the truth we should be telling.
00:31:05.060 Okay.
00:31:07.140 It's from the daily wire.
00:31:08.060 It says, um, well, first of all, Thursday night was the, um, the congressional baseball
00:31:14.560 game where Republicans won 10 to zero.
00:31:18.140 And which is, which is pretty funny already.
00:31:20.420 Of course, it was only five years ago that Republicans were attacked, um, during a baseball,
00:31:26.480 during a baseball game by a crazed Bernie bro who went there with a hit list intent on
00:31:32.080 murdering GOP lawmakers.
00:31:34.340 And, um, so you might think that given that history, that this would be, you know, a congressional
00:31:40.460 baseball game is a, is a time for displays of unity and brotherly love.
00:31:45.080 You might think that if you're brain damaged, but if not, you're, you're not surprised to
00:31:49.320 see this representative Linda Sanchez, a Democrat from California after I believe striking out,
00:31:55.720 we can only assume she's, uh, walking by the GOP dugout and then she does this.
00:32:00.220 Let's play this clip here.
00:32:01.280 She, she flips them off as she walks by lead off the inning.
00:32:04.240 We'll get a pinch runner down there.
00:32:05.760 The fist bump.
00:32:06.980 We'll get an eye on who the pinch runner is going to be.
00:32:08.820 It looks like it's going to be Jeffries and she will come off to a nice ovation.
00:32:15.080 Well, not much reaction from the flip off there.
00:32:20.740 So, okay.
00:32:22.500 I might've been unfair to her.
00:32:23.500 I guess I take from the context there that she, she did, she did get a hit, but then she
00:32:27.720 had a pinch.
00:32:28.240 She has someone running for her.
00:32:29.520 She has a pinch runner.
00:32:31.340 No big surprise there, but she, she goes by the dugout and she just flips off the Republicans.
00:32:38.020 I mean, this is like, this is a lawmaker, right?
00:32:40.460 This is someone who's supposed to, there was a time when you expected, there's never been
00:32:45.900 a time when, when politics was anything but a rough and tumble sport, but there was a time
00:32:50.220 when you would expect some measure of decorum and dignity and statesmanship from your elected
00:32:58.960 leaders.
00:32:59.340 Even when they were pummeling each other over the head, when, you know, when arguments in
00:33:06.000 Congress became physically violent, still there was some dignity and decorum to it.
00:33:11.760 Now we just don't expect that at all.
00:33:13.260 So it's not a surprise to see that, but here's her excuse from the daily wire.
00:33:16.840 She said, says a Democrat representative, Linda Sanchez claimed in a statement Friday afternoon
00:33:20.680 that she flipped off the Republican dugout during Thursday night's congressional baseball
00:33:24.420 game because she heard a sexist remark being made as she ran back to the Democrats' dugout.
00:33:31.580 The statement read, the congressional baseball game is one of my favorite events of the year.
00:33:34.940 It's a great cause and brings both sides of the aisle together for a night off from partisan
00:33:38.760 politics.
00:33:39.640 That's why it really struck a nerve when I heard an offensive and misogynistic comment from
00:33:43.320 the Republican side on my way back to the dugout.
00:33:47.540 So there was a, it was an offensive and misogynistic comment that was made to her.
00:33:50.800 She doesn't say what the comment was and I guess being very charitable, she never meant,
00:33:57.240 she never says who, who said it.
00:34:00.740 Well, this excuse didn't really land and that's why a day later she clarified the story yet
00:34:06.560 again.
00:34:06.880 This is from Red State.
00:34:07.740 It says, now Sanchez is clarifying her story again.
00:34:11.280 She's now saying it wasn't the Republican team that made the comment.
00:34:14.460 She says, quote, it wasn't the team.
00:34:17.060 It was an obnoxious fan who shouts misogynistic S at me every single year.
00:34:22.600 But she still went after a Republican.
00:34:24.580 She says, actually they, you know, she's the victim here.
00:34:27.340 She says, if the Republican women would have stood up and said, that's not acceptable instead
00:34:32.280 of, you know, trashing me for my response, then we might have a place where there's no
00:34:36.860 misogyny that's tolerated by anybody anywhere.
00:34:39.760 And yet, amid all these excuses that she's offering, she still has not, she's not told
00:34:47.380 us what the comment was.
00:34:50.380 And she even says, well, it wasn't now, you know, it wasn't the, it wasn't the Republican,
00:34:54.760 it wasn't the actual Republicans themselves.
00:34:56.160 It was someone on their side up in the, in the stands who, who made the comment, but she
00:35:00.540 knows who the guy is because she says he's there every year.
00:35:03.620 But very nice of her to not mention his name because Democrats are known for that, right?
00:35:10.940 Of course.
00:35:12.720 They're very reticent to throw anybody under the bus, to name names, to send the outrage
00:35:18.240 mob after anybody.
00:35:19.280 They never do that kind of thing.
00:35:22.260 All right, this is, uh, moving on.
00:35:23.700 This is New York Post.
00:35:24.320 It says, there's a chance the identity of the winner of the $1.3 billion mega millions
00:35:29.560 jackpot will never be known, thanks to an Illinois law allowing people who score more
00:35:34.060 than $250,000 to keep their name secret.
00:35:36.940 The winning ticket to the mind-boggling fortune was sold at the Speedy Cafe Speedway gas station,
00:35:43.140 um, according to lottery officials.
00:35:45.740 And, uh, but no one yet has come forward to claim the prize.
00:35:48.980 So that's the news.
00:35:49.700 There's a, there was, the jackpot was up to $1.3 billion.
00:35:53.060 Someone claimed it.
00:35:54.480 We still don't know who.
00:35:55.300 So this apparently is not the highest jackpot that the lottery's ever had.
00:36:00.680 $1.5 billion.
00:36:02.680 What don't have a billion dollars in the lottery that somebody won back in 2018 and we still
00:36:07.520 don't know who that person was either.
00:36:09.620 Probably a smart move to not tell people who you are if you win a billion dollars in the
00:36:13.220 lottery.
00:36:13.940 I only mention this because, and I know this is one of those things that for whatever reason
00:36:18.900 nobody cares about, but just, just FYI, you know, lotteries are one of the most indefensible
00:36:27.160 and dystopian things that we all take for granted.
00:36:31.500 We all just kind of accept that the lottery exists and lots of people like it and they
00:36:35.940 think it's a lot of fun.
00:36:36.760 Um, but this is an actual gambling ring run by the government.
00:36:42.340 And in the case of the mega millions, it's a, I guess, a consortium of, uh, consortium
00:36:47.480 of, of, of state governments.
00:36:49.600 But however they divvy it up, this is the government, state governments, um, governmental powers that
00:36:56.000 are running a gambling ring.
00:36:59.380 And, and this happens even as many other forms of private gambling are banned.
00:37:04.340 In some states, in fact, I think there's at least, I don't know, there's, there's several,
00:37:09.100 I don't know how many, five, six maybe, uh, states where the only form of gambling that's
00:37:14.400 allowed is that which the government runs and profits off of.
00:37:17.840 So they've banned all forms of gambling.
00:37:20.640 You know, you can't do sports gambling.
00:37:22.760 There's no slot machines.
00:37:24.300 There's no casinos.
00:37:25.140 You can't bet on cards.
00:37:26.000 You can't bet on anything.
00:37:27.040 Oh, but they have the lottery though.
00:37:28.340 You can bet on that.
00:37:29.000 And that's, by the way, the one form of gambling where you're the least likely to win.
00:37:37.060 That's, that's the worst form.
00:37:39.700 It's just as addictive as, if not more so, any other form of gambling.
00:37:43.620 But the difference is that unlike sport, like with sports betting, you could actually get
00:37:46.700 good at it and, uh, and win money consistently.
00:37:49.500 I know people who do, uh, but with, uh, with the lottery, there's no way to master it and
00:37:55.140 eventually win consistently.
00:37:56.340 And yet that's the one kind that's allowed in a lot of states.
00:38:00.980 Um, and the reason that they give, just add insult to injury, the reason given for banning
00:38:06.220 these other forms of gambling in other states is, uh, they always give moral reasons.
00:38:10.680 They say, well, gambling is bad.
00:38:12.220 You shouldn't be doing it.
00:38:12.820 It's harmful.
00:38:13.500 It's addictive.
00:38:16.520 And yet the very agents of the government making this argument are running their own
00:38:21.620 gambling ring.
00:38:24.500 Uh, and what is the lottery?
00:38:25.500 It's, of course, it's a tax on the poor.
00:38:28.440 It's a tax on ignorant people.
00:38:30.240 It's a tax on addicts, people who, you know, dump.
00:38:35.440 I mean, we've all, we've all been at the gas station standing behind some pathetic sight
00:38:41.000 of a person dumping like $90.
00:38:43.620 And you could tell it's, this is like, this is their gas money and, and grocery bill for
00:38:48.440 the week and dumping it all into scratch-offs.
00:38:50.740 Or jackpot lottery tickets.
00:38:56.660 And the thing is, you're never going to win.
00:39:00.800 Almost certainly.
00:39:01.600 And if you do win, it's worse than not winning because it's almost certain to destroy your
00:39:07.160 life.
00:39:09.380 Like, it's one thing to hit it big on sports betting, but to just take someone, some average
00:39:16.940 person and hand them like $900 million is, uh, that's almost a death sentence.
00:39:23.060 Guaranteeing it's going to ruin, rip their lives apart.
00:39:27.820 Uh, they're going to die of an overdose, all the rest of it.
00:39:29.820 We've seen that many, many times.
00:39:32.580 Yeah, it's just one of the, I guess it's because there, there are so many corrupt and inexcusable
00:39:36.860 and indefensible things that the government does that you have to, you have to pick your
00:39:39.260 spots a little bit.
00:39:40.440 And so I guess we kind of, kind of gloss over this one, which maybe is somewhat understandable.
00:39:46.760 All right.
00:39:47.080 I also wanted to mention this.
00:39:47.840 This is from ESPN, um, news hot off the presses here.
00:39:50.680 It says Cleveland Browns quarterback, Deshaun Watson will serve a six game suspension for
00:39:54.720 violating the league's personal conduct policy following accusations of sexual misconduct.
00:40:00.180 So if you haven't followed this story at all, um, Deshaun Watson is a superstar quarterback
00:40:09.600 now for the Cleveland Browns after being traded from the Houston Texans.
00:40:13.960 And now he's going to get a six game suspension.
00:40:16.040 And this is after being accused of, um, um, of sexual assault by, I think we're up to 26
00:40:25.540 women, all of them massage therapists.
00:40:29.940 So it's the same story they all tell where they were either assaulted or, you know, harassed
00:40:36.540 in very graphic ways while giving Deshaun Watson a massage.
00:40:40.440 And what we know about him is that he has, is that while he was in Houston, he cycled through
00:40:46.560 like 40 different masseuses over the course of like a year or two.
00:40:50.860 That's a normal thing, isn't it?
00:40:54.660 26 women come out and say, this is what happened to them.
00:40:58.380 And now he's facing a six game suspension.
00:41:01.860 No, no monetary fine either being added on top of that.
00:41:05.340 And this is where, you know, it's important to distinguish between a lot of the Me Too
00:41:12.260 stuff and something like this.
00:41:15.200 Because during the height of the Me Too hysteria, there were plenty of men who suffered far worse
00:41:21.280 consequences while being accused of things not nearly as bad as this.
00:41:29.040 But this is what Me Too does is one thing it does is that it, you know, kind of just discredits
00:41:33.460 everybody all at once.
00:41:34.620 Anyone who makes an accusation is discredited.
00:41:37.600 And in this case, yeah, it's, there isn't any physical evidence because of the nature
00:41:41.780 of the accusation that if, if he did physically sexually assault or harass someone during a
00:41:48.040 massage, there would, what kind of physical evidence could there possibly be of that?
00:41:54.160 And so all you're left with is the accusations, but 26?
00:41:57.540 Six?
00:42:00.440 Now it's true.
00:42:01.080 Just because one woman comes out and accuses a famous man of doing something doesn't mean
00:42:04.420 he did it.
00:42:05.520 If another woman comes out and corroborates and said, same thing happened to me, doesn't
00:42:10.200 mean it's true.
00:42:11.640 Another woman comes out also doesn't mean it's true.
00:42:13.720 But at a certain point, when you get into the 20s, you do have to stop and think like,
00:42:18.980 there's something going on here.
00:42:22.080 This is not a problem that anybody else has.
00:42:24.460 Lots of guys go get massages and none of them have ever been accused of 25 women of sexual
00:42:33.100 harassment.
00:42:36.540 And yet, interestingly enough, even though there are plenty of men at the height of the
00:42:41.280 Me Too hysteria who are accused of far less, had far less evidence against them, because
00:42:48.760 25 accusations, I mean, that is a form of evidence, right?
00:42:51.400 That's testimony against you, and yet suffered far worse repercussions.
00:42:59.920 I wonder why that is.
00:43:02.440 All right, one other thing I want to mention before we get to the comment section.
00:43:05.660 This is from Live Science.
00:43:10.620 It said, explorers have discovered a series of mysterious, perfectly aligned holes punched
00:43:14.680 into the seafloor, roughly 1.6 miles beneath the ocean surface, and they have no idea who
00:43:20.120 or what made them.
00:43:21.640 The strange holes were spotted by the crew of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's
00:43:26.720 Explorer Vessel as they investigated the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, a mostly unexplored region of the seafloor
00:43:31.940 that is part of the world's largest mountain range.
00:43:34.760 The holes form a straight line and appear at irregularly repeating distances, and they
00:43:38.360 are surrounded by tiny mounds of sediment.
00:43:41.960 And no one knows exactly where these holes came from.
00:43:44.460 What's so fascinating about this, as I once again try to convince you to care about a science
00:43:50.240 story, what's fascinating is how little we actually know about our oceans and what's
00:43:55.420 happening in them.
00:43:56.100 80% of the world's oceans remain unexplored.
00:43:58.800 That's because the oceans are so vast, obviously, but also they're so inhospitable to, if not
00:44:03.320 life in general, then at least us.
00:44:05.040 Because deep down in the ocean, it's extremely dark and cold.
00:44:08.360 The water pressure, if you go all the way down to the deepest part of the Marianas Trench,
00:44:11.900 six or seven miles down, you're talking about 15,000 pounds of pressure per square inch,
00:44:16.100 which is the equivalent of having like a bunch of tanks or cement trucks stacked on top of
00:44:20.460 you.
00:44:21.120 And yet there are all kinds of life forms living deep in the ocean anyway.
00:44:24.360 Who are, who are able to survive in those conditions.
00:44:28.320 And we don't know anything about most of them.
00:44:31.120 And who knows what else is going on down there?
00:44:33.640 Like I said, 80% unexplored.
00:44:36.000 70% of the, of the earth is covered in oceans.
00:44:38.560 80% of that 70% is unexplored.
00:44:40.500 We have no idea what's going on.
00:44:43.900 Who aren't, who knows who or what made those holes?
00:44:48.600 We may never know, but it was probably aliens is the point I was getting to.
00:44:53.840 Ultimately.
00:44:54.960 Let's get now to the comment section.
00:44:57.220 Daily cancellations are the law and order of the day.
00:45:02.660 We the sweet baby gang.
00:45:08.120 Sprint Kick says, this human filing cabinet would be something seen on Mars where the atmosphere
00:45:13.280 is totally unsustainable for human life.
00:45:15.720 The fact that the elites think this would be a good idea here really illustrates their contempt
00:45:19.920 for humanity.
00:45:20.560 The guy who's referring to the city of the future that we talked about on, uh, on Thursday's
00:45:25.260 show.
00:45:25.880 And this is something that they're supposedly going to build in Saudi Arabia.
00:45:29.020 And then they, and then they hope to export it to other countries, including our own,
00:45:32.440 which just a long, they call it the line, but really it's just a long, vast rectangle where
00:45:39.440 they want to stuff all of the people.
00:45:41.660 And you would live there between these mirrored walls your whole life and never leave.
00:45:47.440 Um, and yeah, it does, it does kind of remind you of what you would put on a planet if it
00:45:51.480 was a total wasteland that couldn't sustain human life.
00:45:54.600 And the other point there is that Mars and Venus are, are, you know, you mentioned Mars, Venus
00:46:02.500 as well.
00:46:03.420 Good case studies, I think, in the sort of inevitable course of all planets, because, because both
00:46:10.660 of them were once like earth, you know, they had oceans and atmospheres and everything probably
00:46:15.040 had life on them, but now they're barren wastelands.
00:46:18.200 And it's not because anybody was driving SUVs on those planets three billion years ago, as
00:46:25.820 far as we know, but just because this is the course of nature.
00:46:29.880 This is the course of the universe and it's inevitable and there's nothing you can really
00:46:35.980 do to stop it.
00:46:38.700 Um, Zachary Todd says, I'm glad someone else is finally calling out the BS midget just randomly
00:46:44.620 went from being normal to being a slur without any explanation.
00:46:48.200 Well, it's like I said, there's this absurd idea that the comfort level of the speaker,
00:46:53.480 when it comes to speaking, right?
00:46:55.720 The comfort level of you as the speaker doesn't matter.
00:46:58.700 It's only the comfort level of the person hearing whatever you're saying that matters,
00:47:02.940 which doesn't make any sense to me.
00:47:06.900 So some people, for whatever reason, feel more comfortable hearing little people than midget,
00:47:12.340 which, which is fine if that's what they prefer.
00:47:14.160 And if that's what they want to say, but I don't feel more comfortable saying that.
00:47:19.040 It feels weird to me to say little people instead of midget.
00:47:22.280 And since I'm the one speaking, shouldn't it be up to me what words I use based on my
00:47:27.260 own comfort level, based on what feels right to me?
00:47:29.640 Annie says, Matt, to this day, I regret objecting when my husband tried to confront some pervert
00:47:38.480 who came into the ladies' room.
00:47:39.920 My marriage would be better today if I just sat quietly and let him deck the guy.
00:47:44.340 We've come to a point in our culture where women don't know how to be protected any more
00:47:48.580 than men know how to protect us.
00:47:50.160 So I think that's a really important insight there.
00:47:54.260 It's not just men losing the instincts and the ability, the desire, the will to protect women.
00:48:03.760 But on the other side of it, you know, women should allow themselves to be protected by men.
00:48:11.640 So both of these things are happening all at once.
00:48:13.700 Mike says, I'm roughly the same age as Matt, and I remember in elementary school believing
00:48:21.040 that if AIDS didn't get me, it would be the acid rain.
00:48:24.460 Those were the childhood propaganda of our time.
00:48:28.360 Yeah, and we've talked about, you know, we've been over this, especially in the 90s.
00:48:35.520 If you made the mistake of going to elementary school in the 90s, which at least is better
00:48:39.820 than going to elementary school now, but there are a lot of things you didn't have to deal
00:48:43.120 with in the 90s in elementary school that kids today do have to deal with.
00:48:47.080 But one of the big things in the 90s in elementary school is that you were told about AIDS, and
00:48:52.080 you were told that anyone can get it, and you're like basically just walking past someone in a
00:48:56.220 hallway, you can contract AIDS.
00:48:58.000 And I do always wonder if all of this AIDS propaganda and paranoia being, you know,
00:49:07.140 shoved into the minds of kids in the 90s, if that has helped to turn us into
00:49:12.260 hypochondriacs.
00:49:15.860 And then when you get to the COVID panic and the way that especially my generation has
00:49:20.420 reacted to it, many of them still walking around with masks on, you know, is it because
00:49:24.540 of like the mental conditioning that started way back 30 years ago?
00:49:29.860 I do wonder that.
00:49:32.480 And finally, another comment says, I think it's really hard to fall in deep and genuine
00:49:36.460 love with anyone if you don't like them even a little bit on the outside.
00:49:39.760 We have to be honest.
00:49:41.120 Men, and yes, women too, do take looks into consideration, even if they don't want to
00:49:45.080 admit it.
00:49:45.700 We need to stop going by the exceptions to the rule.
00:49:48.280 Those who don't take even a small amount of looks into consideration.
00:49:51.200 Well, it's not just a matter of taking looks into consideration, right?
00:49:53.380 Your looks are part of who you are.
00:49:56.320 It's how the other person knows you.
00:49:58.840 It's how they experience your presence.
00:50:02.900 Your physical body is not just a container.
00:50:05.180 We aren't hermit crabs living in shells, right?
00:50:08.580 Now, the difference for women is that their perception of your physical attractiveness is
00:50:14.280 more determined by aspects of you that are not physical.
00:50:19.060 So, like, if a woman finds you smart and thinks that you're kind and generous and funny, especially
00:50:26.620 funny, then she'll begin to perceive you as more physically attractive, even if in reality
00:50:32.660 you look like a giant toad.
00:50:35.020 And that's very good for men.
00:50:37.220 Because without this advantage, we would, most of us, probably die alone.
00:50:41.820 All right, so this is the moment in the show where in years past I would have read you an
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00:50:46.940 I would have said something like, hey, you millions of listeners, I love Harry's, go
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00:50:52.000 But I'm not going to do that because I don't love Harry's.
00:50:54.400 I hate Harry's, in fact.
00:50:55.580 If you don't know the story by now, Harry's used to advertise on our shows until someone
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00:51:04.540 This was too much for our sponsor who pulled their ads due to values misalignment.
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00:51:27.040 People love this product for good reason.
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00:51:49.980 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.
00:51:55.540 Today we cancel Mary Catherine Starr, who is the artist, podcaster, consultant, professional
00:52:01.240 yoga instructor with pronouns in her bio, though that last detail I'm sure would already have
00:52:05.840 been assumed, who's amassed a large online following through her viral comics depicting
00:52:10.660 motherhood as she sees it.
00:52:13.460 Now if you spend any time on social media, you may have already encountered one or two
00:52:16.340 or 20 of these mom life comics where Starr shares her relatable insights into marriage.
00:52:21.840 Relatable to her anyway, and I suppose to the band of bitter, sullen women who follow her
00:52:26.280 and share her content.
00:52:27.680 It becomes clear rather quickly after glancing at her work that Starr really does not enjoy
00:52:31.680 motherhood very much, doesn't like her husband very much, and is now attempting to
00:52:34.740 make her resentment seem inspirational.
00:52:38.520 Much of it centers around, as a glowing profile in the Huffington Post explains, the unfair
00:52:42.540 ways that society views moms versus dads.
00:52:46.140 Except that these viral comics often seem less relevant to society and more based on whatever
00:52:51.340 petty gripe she has about her husband on any particular day.
00:52:54.820 For example, one of her recent offerings, which has circulated widely on social media, is captioned,
00:53:00.480 one of the many differences between me and my husband.
00:53:03.820 In one panel, we see her staring at a peach on the table, and the thought bubble says,
00:53:07.860 oh look, the last ripe peach.
00:53:09.840 I'll save it for the kids.
00:53:10.920 They love peaches so much.
00:53:12.860 And the next panel shows her husband, and his thought bubble says, oh look, the last ripe
00:53:17.320 peach.
00:53:17.760 I'll use it as a special treat in my daily smoothie.
00:53:21.880 Now surely her husband deserves this public shaming for having the audacity to eat the food
00:53:25.720 in his own house.
00:53:26.480 And he gets shamed for many other things, too.
00:53:29.000 In another comic, this one with nearly 20,000 likes on Instagram, she tells us the saga of
00:53:34.100 her husband having trouble finding things.
00:53:37.020 It says, we're sitting down to eat breakfast.
00:53:39.180 My husband is still in the kitchen.
00:53:40.680 I say, will you grab a bib for Teddy?
00:53:43.440 He says, where are the bibs?
00:53:45.480 What I want to say in response is, they're in the same place they've been for the past five
00:53:49.340 years, in the same place I put them every time I washed them and put them away.
00:53:52.600 Presumably the same place you've gotten them from a thousand times before.
00:53:55.520 Unless, of course, you've never gotten either one of our kids a bib in the past five years.
00:54:00.860 But what I actually say, in the corner cabinet, the same place they've always been.
00:54:05.480 And that, my friends, is called self-control.
00:54:08.280 Nothing like bitching about your spouse publicly while also congratulating yourself for being
00:54:12.640 passive-aggressive.
00:54:14.120 Oftentimes, she seems to make no attempt to be humorous at all.
00:54:16.740 I'm being generous in assuming that some of this is at least supposed to be somewhat funny,
00:54:20.540 I guess.
00:54:20.960 I don't know.
00:54:21.220 So, and in these other cases, she just simply lectures her husband directly, like this one.
00:54:27.860 It says, me trying to explain our household dynamics in terms my husband understands.
00:54:33.040 Then we see her saying, on most sports teams, you have a superstar or a playmaker who makes
00:54:37.760 things happen.
00:54:38.740 That's me.
00:54:39.760 Then you often have that one person who just stands around waiting for other people to
00:54:43.280 make plays or shoot the ball.
00:54:44.880 That's you.
00:54:45.500 We need you to step up so we can win as a team.
00:54:49.600 Now, here we see the danger of making a sports analogy when you've never watched a single
00:54:53.600 sporting event in your entire life.
00:54:55.420 But we're going to return to that in just a moment.
00:54:57.180 There are many other examples we don't need to cycle through.
00:54:59.760 She has comments complaining that her husband doesn't carry as many grocery bags from the
00:55:03.420 car as she does.
00:55:04.960 Another where she complains that her husband gets to work out alone while she has to work
00:55:08.680 out with her kids draped all over her.
00:55:10.920 However, she complains that once he wore a winter hat that was hers without her permission.
00:55:17.480 She has a whole comic about that.
00:55:19.080 She complains that he takes up too much room on the couch when he naps.
00:55:22.580 She complains that he gets to nap in the first place and she doesn't.
00:55:28.220 She complains that he takes too long to run errands.
00:55:30.480 She has many comments complaining that her husband spends too much time going to the bathroom.
00:55:34.520 This is a theme she returns to over and over again.
00:55:37.140 Her husband's defecation habits have been thoroughly chronicled by this woman.
00:55:41.340 She even has a Father's Day card that she's created, which centers around this theme.
00:55:45.640 It says, this Father's Day, take as much time as you need in the bathroom.
00:55:50.120 Oh wait, that's you every day.
00:55:52.120 So this Father's Day, take as much time as you need in the bathroom and I promise not
00:55:55.320 to say anything about it.
00:55:56.600 Well, I'll try my very best.
00:55:59.040 While this is passive aggressive, it's at least a little bit nicer than the Mother's Day card
00:56:02.940 that I wish her husband would give to her sometime.
00:56:06.360 It could say something like, happy Mother's Day.
00:56:08.220 Being with you is at least better than being fed feet first into a wood chipper.
00:56:13.540 Though the wood chipper is looking better every day.
00:56:16.260 Her husband, we can assume, lacks the gumption to say anything like that to her.
00:56:19.380 But others on the internet have spoken up on his behalf, suggesting that maybe she should
00:56:23.060 stop incessantly whining publicly about her marriage.
00:56:26.280 Maybe this is something she could do in counseling or something.
00:56:30.020 In response to the critics this weekend, she martyred herself some more, posting a defiant
00:56:33.900 response on Instagram and extensively quoting Taylor Swift lyrics at the same time.
00:56:38.400 And she, of course, chalked the criticism up to sexism and said that anyone who disagrees
00:56:42.400 with her approach will be blocked, which certainly is the least intimidating threat ever issued
00:56:48.120 in the history of threats.
00:56:49.040 But at the risk of maybe suffering the same fate, I want to offer some thoughts to this
00:56:55.100 woman about her marriage.
00:56:57.300 I mean, given that she's talking publicly about it, I guess it's fair game.
00:57:00.920 First of all, I don't know how many of these complaints accurately describe her husband's
00:57:06.160 behavior.
00:57:07.160 There's no reason to think that any of them are 100% fair.
00:57:10.260 I do know that many of them certainly don't accurately describe husbands in general as
00:57:16.760 she claims they do.
00:57:18.080 I've never met a man who doesn't take immense pride in his ability to transport an entire
00:57:22.800 trunk full of grocery bags into the kitchen in one trip.
00:57:26.080 That's what men do.
00:57:27.060 That's like, we love doing that.
00:57:29.040 As for having kids draped all over you while exercising, I actually encourage my kids to
00:57:32.800 do that to me because it adds extra resistance and makes for a more effective workout.
00:57:37.340 Also, it puts them to good use for a change.
00:57:39.080 It might be true that men take longer to complete one specific bathroom activity, but this is
00:57:44.460 balanced out by the amount of time that women take to do everything else in the bathroom.
00:57:48.680 And do we as men have a habit of forgetting where things are in the house, often staring
00:57:52.800 helplessly at our own kitchen cabinets and pantries as if this is the first time we've
00:57:56.640 ever laid eyes on them?
00:57:58.780 Yes.
00:57:59.280 I mean, that stereotype is, I admit, richly deserved.
00:58:02.440 But here's the bigger question.
00:58:05.720 So what?
00:58:06.320 Sure, Mary, your husband isn't perfect.
00:58:10.040 No husband is.
00:58:11.700 All husbands are deeply and irretrievably flawed.
00:58:15.840 Yes, the rumors are true.
00:58:17.960 As a wife, you will not be able to turn your husband into a perfect specimen of faultless
00:58:24.220 humanity.
00:58:25.640 You especially won't be able to accomplish that by scolding, nagging, or whining.
00:58:29.760 That approach always, and I mean always, has the opposite effect.
00:58:35.200 The only thing you can do is decide whether you will obsessively focus on your husband's
00:58:41.840 flaws or not.
00:58:43.600 You have to decide if you want to be a martyr or simply a wife.
00:58:49.540 A martyr or simply a mother.
00:58:51.780 Do you want to stew in the juices of your own resentment, constantly adding to the broth
00:58:56.860 with new groans and gripes?
00:58:59.580 Or do you want to actually be happy and content, or at least have a chance of happiness and contentment?
00:59:06.900 Are you going to be so resentful over the chores you do around the house that simply being around you
00:59:12.820 becomes a chore for everybody else?
00:59:15.520 This is what you have the power to control.
00:59:17.220 And so does your husband for himself.
00:59:20.560 Because despite what you apparently believe, your husband certainly has a whole litany of
00:59:26.080 complaints about you.
00:59:27.840 He may not say them out loud very often or post about them on the internet because he respects
00:59:33.620 you more than you respect him, but he has them.
00:59:37.360 No husband is perfect, yes, but neither is any wife.
00:59:40.500 And that's especially true in your case.
00:59:41.920 I wonder, have you ever taken a break during one of your self-pity sessions to reflect on the things
00:59:49.200 that you might be doing wrong?
00:59:51.680 You've devoted hours and days and months and years to thinking about, talking about, crying about,
00:59:57.540 screaming about all the many ways that you're put upon, oppressed, unappreciated.
01:00:01.700 But have you ever at any point allowed for even one second of honest self-reflection?
01:00:07.680 If you feel that your husband is so oblivious to his failings that you need to point them out 75 times
01:00:13.460 a day, have you considered the possibility that you might suffer from the same blind spot?
01:00:19.600 Or worse, are you aware of your failings and yet you justify them to yourself by comparing them
01:00:24.560 to your husband's failings?
01:00:26.920 And if this is the case, and I'm certain that it is, have you considered that he might be doing
01:00:30.200 the same thing?
01:00:31.960 Perhaps your marriage is stuck in a cycle of self-rationalization and self-martyrdom,
01:00:35.960 and it will continue in that circle all the way around the drain.
01:00:40.800 One other thought.
01:00:42.380 Your sports analogy was instructive, but not for the reason that you hoped.
01:00:46.380 You say that there's always the one guy on the team who stands around doing nothing.
01:00:51.720 Now that might be true on amateur teams like in Little League or Pop Warner or on the Detroit Lions,
01:00:57.180 but in the big leagues, everyone on the field or on the court is involved.
01:01:02.260 They all have a role.
01:01:03.400 They're all doing something on every play, even if they appear to be doing not much at
01:01:08.240 all.
01:01:09.480 So someone who doesn't understand football might watch the action, you know, from whistle
01:01:13.360 to whistle and conclude that the left tackle is mostly just a spectator.
01:01:17.100 But those who know the game understand that he has an indispensable role to play, even if
01:01:21.060 it's less glamorous, less highlight worthy, less praised.
01:01:24.760 And even if he tends to only get his name called when he screws up.
01:01:29.440 In spite of that, he's in the trenches on every play, filling a role that no one else
01:01:33.360 on the team could possibly fill.
01:01:35.640 So I wonder if you might misinterpret your marriage in the same way that you misinterpret
01:01:40.420 football.
01:01:41.000 Just because you don't appreciate or understand all the ways that your husband contributes,
01:01:46.400 that doesn't mean he isn't contributing.
01:01:50.160 I mean, this could be less a problem with his effort and more a problem with your self-centered
01:01:54.360 refusal to even attempt to see things from his perspective.
01:01:57.980 You're the superstar, the playmaker in your own mind.
01:02:00.500 And just like any other player who elevates himself while denigrating his team, you're
01:02:06.320 doing more harm than good.
01:02:08.360 You're destroying your team, in fact, while telling yourself that you're the only one helping
01:02:12.540 it succeed.
01:02:14.780 So I would recommend that you try watching a game before saying anything else about sports
01:02:18.360 and also try looking in the mirror before saying anything else about your marriage.
01:02:24.200 But you don't have to look in the mirror to know that you are today still canceled.
01:02:28.440 And I'll leave it there for today.
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