The Matt Walsh Show - August 03, 2022


Ep. 998 - 'Gender Identity' Is Narcissism By Another Name


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 5 minutes

Words per Minute

169.56442

Word Count

11,079

Sentence Count

725

Misogynist Sentences

20

Hate Speech Sentences

28


Summary

Roe v. Wade has been overturned, and the fight for life is now finally leaving D.C. and going to the grassroots. A gender specialist is caught on tape admitting that girls as young as 12 are having their breasts chopped off, and one seemingly absurd and unimportant headline in the news today only further reveals the brutality and insanity of this practice. Also, voters in Kansas vote to protect the so-called constitutional right to abortion. We ll discuss. Whoopi Goldberg laments that college graduates are starving to death because of their student loans. Plus, the LA Times promotes Death With Dignity, also known as Suicide. And in our daily cancellation, I respond to continued attacks from a conservative gun rights activist who claims that I m hurting the conservative movement more than helping.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, a gender specialist is caught on tape admitting that girls as young
00:00:04.900 as 12 are having their breasts chopped off. And one seemingly absurd and unimportant headline
00:00:09.560 in the news today only further reveals the brutality and insanity of this practice. I'll
00:00:13.600 explain. Also, voters in Kansas vote to protect the so-called constitutional right to abortion.
00:00:18.940 How could this have happened in Kansas, of all places? We'll discuss. Whoopi Goldberg laments
00:00:23.060 that college graduates are starving to death because of their student loans. If that's true,
00:00:27.060 doesn't it only further prove that college is a terrible investment? Plus, the LA Times promotes
00:00:31.320 Death with Dignity, also known as Suicide. The latest superhero film is so bad that the studio
00:00:36.160 refuses to even release it. And in our daily cancellation, I respond to continued attacks
00:00:40.220 from a conservative gun rights activist who claims that I'm hurting the conservative movement more
00:00:44.660 than helping. Is he right? We'll talk about that and much more today on the Matt Wall Show.
00:00:57.060 Roe v. Wade has been overturned and this battle is now finally leaving D.C. and going to the
00:01:03.360 grassroots. No group in America is better positioned than 40 Days for Life to fight this battle with
00:01:08.280 about one million volunteers in a thousand cities. They hold peaceful vigils outside abortion facilities
00:01:12.460 and they have a larger presence in blue states where they're most needed, California being their
00:01:16.440 largest state of all. Some former abortion facility directors say that these vigils can cause the
00:01:20.720 abortion no-show rate to go as high as 75 percent, which of course is detrimental to their abortion
00:01:26.500 business. These law-abiding vigils have closed many abortion businesses in America and nearly half of
00:01:31.580 them were in liberal cities like San Francisco, Chicago, and Seattle, which are hardly pro-life areas.
00:01:37.300 40 Days for Life is effectively changing hearts and minds in the grassroots to end abortion.
00:01:41.660 You can check out their locations, podcasts, and free magazine at 40daysforlife.com.
00:01:46.900 What we have to always keep in mind is that the fight for life is not over. It continues. And in
00:01:51.920 fact, in many ways, it certainly enters a new phase now after Roe and in many ways an even more
00:01:56.920 important phase as we have this ability to so directly impact the laws governing abortion and to
00:02:03.180 save lives in the process. So for more information on 40 Days for Life, go to 40daysforlife.com.
00:02:09.040 The news hit like an avalanche yesterday. Explosive, shocking, the most significant event of the
00:02:16.280 year, of the decade, of the century. The headlines were published on CNN, NBC News, ABC News, Fox,
00:02:22.000 all over the media. It was trending on every social media platform. People all across this land were
00:02:26.360 shouting about it from the rooftops. Town criers were announcing it in village squares.
00:02:31.800 The earth-shattering news reverberated around the country and down through history and across space
00:02:37.660 and time. Demi Lovato is changing her pronouns again. As People Magazine reports, Demi Lovato is opening up
00:02:45.720 about her recent pronoun change about two months after updating her pronouns on Instagram, adding
00:02:50.440 she, her alongside the pronouns she'd been using since last year, which are they, them. Lovato recently
00:02:55.580 spoke to host Tamara Dia on the Spout podcast about what led to the decision. In response to Dia asking
00:03:02.340 Lovato to explain the concept of chosen pronouns like they, them, the 29-year-old singer-songwriter said,
00:03:08.060 yeah, so they, them is, I've actually adopted the pronouns of she, her again. Now, if that sentence
00:03:15.420 seemed to not make any sense, get ready for a bunch more sentences that also make no sense. Here is Lovato
00:03:21.120 explaining her decision in more detail. She, of course, updates her pronouns like Apple updates the
00:03:26.280 iPhone. And I mean both in terms of the frequency of the updates and the meaninglessness and redundancy
00:03:31.080 of the updates. But here she explains why, I think. I've actually adopted the pronouns of she,
00:03:38.280 her again. So for me, I'm such a fluid person that I don't really, I don't find that I am,
00:03:48.920 I felt like, especially last year, my energy was balanced and my masculine and feminine energy.
00:03:54.980 So that when I was faced with the choice of walking into a bathroom and it said women and men,
00:04:00.860 I didn't feel like there was a bathroom for me because I didn't feel necessarily like a woman.
00:04:05.520 I didn't feel like a man. I just felt like a human. And that's what they, them is about for me. It's
00:04:12.460 just about like feeling human at your core. Recently, I've been feeling more feminine.
00:04:18.120 Hmm. Well, there you have it. Yesterday, we, you know, yesterday you would have been banned on every
00:04:25.520 social media platform for calling Demi she, and now you'll be banned if you don't. That's how this
00:04:31.660 works. And she's simply getting in touch with her energy. Sometimes her energy is balanced.
00:04:36.420 Sometimes her energy tips towards the feminine. Sometimes it's masculine. Sometimes her energy is
00:04:41.980 low and she needs to plug into an outlet in the garage for a while. Now, obviously, none of this
00:04:46.800 makes any sense at all. This is about as credible as the four humors theory of medicine popular back
00:04:52.140 in like the middle ages. And back then they believed that a person's physical health, their mental
00:04:56.780 well-being, their personality were all determined by the balance of blood, bile, melancholy, and phlegm.
00:05:04.220 And those are the four humors. And that theory fell out of favor once the human body and the brain
00:05:08.960 were better understood and the existence of germs, you know, was discovered. Though they may have
00:05:14.800 actually been on to something on Second Thought as there are lots of people in our society today who
00:05:18.440 seem to be predominantly composed of bile and phlegm. And yet humorism was far more defensible
00:05:25.140 and credible at the time because it was the best available theory to explain these aspects of the
00:05:30.820 human person based on the information they had at the time. This gender identity nonsense, by contrast,
00:05:37.640 is a superstition invented and propagated contrary to all of the ample amounts of evidence that we have on
00:05:43.480 hand. We know that it's nonsense and yet it has taken over our culture all the same. Now, I call it
00:05:50.280 nonsense and it is, but that doesn't mean that I can't make sense of it. I do, in fact, understand
00:05:56.400 what Demi's trying to say. I think I understand what she's trying to say better than she does
00:06:02.120 because this is all simply narcissism. Lovato has a cornucopia of mental illnesses and various
00:06:09.300 addictions and that certainly plays a role. But mostly, this is the end result of spending nearly
00:06:15.220 every waking moment of your life thinking about yourself, obsessing over yourself, analyzing yourself,
00:06:20.260 and then analyzing your analysis of yourself. A person who adopts this, I guess, lifestyle choice
00:06:26.420 of narcissism will quickly conclude that though she can't make up her mind about anything and though
00:06:32.360 she, by her own admission, doesn't understand herself in the slightest, she is certainly,
00:06:36.320 she knows, more interesting, more nuanced, more complex, more richly and beautifully sketched
00:06:43.120 than most other people in the world. This is the fundamental narcissistic assumption that serves
00:06:48.300 as the basis for everything else when it comes to gender identity. The narcissist feels, you know,
00:06:54.020 feels a certain way, right, as we all feel different ways and, but they can't actually know whether
00:07:00.080 other people who share the same sex feel the same way, whether this is just how people feel,
00:07:07.660 but she assumes that they don't feel as she does because she is her, you know, she's not like anyone
00:07:13.860 else. Her feelings are different and meaningful and profound in ways that nobody else's are.
00:07:20.760 And so she can't make do with these sex categories that have proved sufficient for billions of humans
00:07:25.980 before her. She needs a whole new category because she is that transcendent, she tells herself,
00:07:32.080 in her deluded, ego-crazed mind. And this would all perhaps be something about which we could simply
00:07:39.740 shake our heads and laugh and then move on if it was a madness consigned to drug-addled Hollywood
00:07:46.620 weirdos. But it's not. You know, worst of all, of course, children are being recruited into sharing
00:07:53.040 in the same confusion and self-obsessed misery as Demi Lovato. And here is where the Lovato story
00:07:58.980 does in fact have some resonance and relevance. This is why it's actually not something that we can
00:08:04.340 simply dismiss. There's something important that can be learned from it. And that important thing is
00:08:08.780 this. Demi Lovato is a grown woman, technically. She is an adult, at least in the chronological sense of
00:08:15.660 the term. And yet she changes her gender identity, quote-unquote, every 45 seconds. She can't make
00:08:22.660 up her mind. What she said yesterday may not have any bearing on today. One minute her deepest truth
00:08:29.120 is that she's a non-binary pansexual shapeshifter. And the next minute her truth is something else
00:08:35.120 entirely. Now consider that kids are being drugged and mutilated, their bodies permanently altered
00:08:41.540 based on their own gender identity declarations, which are somehow even more fickle and transmutable
00:08:48.940 and fundamentally meaningless. Everything is fluid. Everything can be changed, except the bodies that
00:08:56.620 are butchered and poisoned based on whatever form of identity or expression a child has assumed at that
00:09:02.240 moment. There was a video recently that went viral which shows someone named Kellen Lackhard,
00:09:08.120 a so-called gender specialist, whatever that is, at Kaiser Permanente in Oakland, admitting that in
00:09:15.660 that program, Kaiser Permanente, children as young as 12 years old have had their breasts removed.
00:09:22.260 12 years old. Listen.
00:09:23.940 Yeah, I think folks have kind of covered the blockers and hormones, but I'll talk about surgical care a
00:09:28.120 little bit. In terms of masculinizing top surgery, I think 12 is the youngest who's had surgery through
00:09:34.580 our program. And in terms of general reconstructive surgeries, we haven't had anyone under the age
00:09:41.180 of 18 have phalloplasty or londrodiplasty, but we have had a few patients starting 15, I don't think
00:09:50.460 surgery actually happened, until 16 that have had bacheloplasty. Again, girls at the age of 12,
00:09:57.080 not even in high school yet, and they're having body parts removed. We also hear that boys as young
00:10:05.540 as 16, at an age when boys in particular are renowned for being impetuous and impulsive
00:10:12.080 and unintentionally self-destructive, and yet at age 16 they're being castrated.
00:10:18.220 Demi Lovato is almost 30 years old, and she can't decide what her gender energy is telling her at any
00:10:24.320 given moment. How in God's name can we take an adolescent still over a decade away from their brain
00:10:31.280 being fully formed, how can we take them seriously when they make their own declarations?
00:10:37.380 A few days ago, the radical LGBT group Stonewall tweeted that according to quote-unquote research,
00:10:44.720 and they never do specify what the research is, of course, but just research, research shows, they say,
00:10:49.400 that children as young as two can recognize their trans identity. Two. Adults in their 20s and 30s
00:10:59.200 struggle to understand their identities, apparently, but actual babies still in diapers, sleeping in
00:11:07.160 cribs, can come to realizations that escape those approaching middle age or older.
00:11:12.580 That's the point we should take away here. And it's why we actually shouldn't simply ignore
00:11:20.300 the adult celebrities and other adults who parade around, you know, with their different identity
00:11:25.540 every other month. Far from ignoring it, we should be pointing to them. We should be putting them up
00:11:32.220 on banners saying, here, look at this. With the message, leave our kids out of this.
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00:13:08.260 another set of twins on the way, as we announced yesterday. One of the big ones is transportation.
00:13:13.560 And I mentioned that it was like a day before, a couple of days before we found out about the
00:13:21.400 pregnancy. We had just bought a new family vehicle that fits exactly six people. And then, you know,
00:13:28.160 now we're expanding to a family of eight. My wife has been, she's one of these people,
00:13:33.360 and honestly, I don't understand it, but she's not alone in this. She's just been dead set on not
00:13:37.880 getting a minivan. And she still maintains, we talked about it again last night, she still maintains
00:13:42.500 the delusion that we can avoid getting any kind of van. Look, I've never bought into the anti-van
00:13:49.200 propaganda. I don't understand it. They're incredibly convenient. They may not be, you know,
00:13:53.620 as stylish, but they are practical. And I think that they're quite handsome in their own way.
00:13:58.660 My wife is so desperate that she's wondering, she's actually suggested this, can we go to like a
00:14:03.960 chauffeur service and see if we can buy one of their old limousines? Maybe we can convert an airport
00:14:10.160 shuttle or something. Anything but an actual, you know, passenger van or minivan.
00:14:16.800 It's absurd. Look, the time has come. That's another thing that you learn. And it's a big part
00:14:22.220 of parenting too, is just acceptance, you know, and being realistic. And the time has come for the
00:14:29.440 minivan. Be still. Be not afraid. We are destined for the minivan. Now the forces of nature have spoken,
00:14:36.740 and it will be fine. It will be okay. I believe that. This is not so okay though. NBC News is
00:14:42.800 reporting this. Well, actually, this is being reported all across the media because they're
00:14:47.980 very excited about it. Primary elections in several states last night. And also some ballot initiatives.
00:14:56.720 And one in particular is getting a lot of attention. Attention is probably understating it.
00:15:01.000 The Huffington Post had, you know, if you went to their website last night, in huge block letters
00:15:06.160 across the front page, it said, earthquake, deep red Kansas protects abortion. It's an earthquake.
00:15:14.440 And then they tell us in the article, Kansans decided to keep abortion protections in their state
00:15:19.400 constitution after a Tuesday vote. A huge win for pro-choice advocates that will likely set the tone
00:15:24.600 for what's to come on abortion rights nationally. Voters in the Midwest state voted against the value
00:15:30.780 them both amendment, which was created by anti-abortion Christian groups to strip protections
00:15:35.300 for abortion care from the state's constitution. The vote, which was held during a primary election,
00:15:40.060 had a historic turnout as high as the 2008 presidential election. The amendment was created
00:15:44.780 in response to a 2019 Kansas Supreme Court decision that ruled the state's constitution fundamentally
00:15:49.680 protects abortion rights. If the value them both amendment had passed, it would have opened the door
00:15:53.860 for anti-abortion rights lawmakers to pursue a total abortion ban. Now, obviously, I'm reading for
00:15:58.100 Huffington Post, and so they're framing this a certain way. Of course, it's anti-abortion rights
00:16:04.320 on one hand, and then pro-choice on the other. We can't be pro-lifers. It's not pro-life and pro-choice.
00:16:09.460 We're anti-abortion rights, so-called. Now, I think the final vote was something like,
00:16:17.340 it was like a 60-40 split or something. It might have even been, I'm not even sure if the pro-life vote
00:16:22.360 got up to 40%. I think it was in the 30s. Now, there's no doubt, in Kansas, choosing not to,
00:16:34.680 I mean, choosing to, as the headline says, protect the so-called right to abortion in Kansas, it's a
00:16:43.900 surprise. It's also a disappointment, and it's pretty depressing. There's no way around that.
00:16:47.700 But it's not that surprising when you think about it. And you remember that the Democrats,
00:16:55.140 first of all, have certain built-in advantages, no matter how red the state is.
00:16:59.980 This isn't a rationalization. This isn't a cope. It's just true. Okay, the Democrats,
00:17:06.400 first of all, have the entire media on their side, sometimes with the exception of Fox News and
00:17:13.820 sometimes not. So there's the relentless media propagandizing that's been going on and has
00:17:21.120 always gone on on every issue, especially abortion, and in particularly, you know, since the decision
00:17:26.840 from the Supreme Court. Abortion is also a billion-dollar, a multi-billion-dollar industry.
00:17:33.120 And so there's a lot more money there when it comes to an effort like this.
00:17:40.360 And then they also have the advantage, really, of being on the side where they're exploiting fear,
00:17:51.320 right? So you've got the pro-abortion side, and when it comes to this fight in Kansas and also
00:17:56.620 nationwide, the pro-abortion side, they are, of course, lying constantly. Everything they say is a lie.
00:18:03.860 But they also, what they're doing fundamentally is exploiting people's fears.
00:18:10.380 They're saying that we're going to end up in a handmaid's tale, that women are going to be
00:18:14.920 enslaved and subjugated, and somehow, because of the Supreme Court decision, next thing you know,
00:18:23.240 interracial marriage is going to be illegal. I mean, all kinds of fears. And it doesn't make any
00:18:28.040 sense. They're just throwing everything they can against the wall to see what sticks.
00:18:33.120 And then especially on an individual level, if a woman is pregnant, then all they have for the
00:18:38.820 woman is fear, fear, fear. Here's all the horrible things that will happen. You have no choice. You
00:18:46.380 have to go get an abortion. Your life will be over if you don't. That's what the pro-abortion side is
00:18:51.800 doing. Exploiting fear. On the pro-life side, on the other hand, we're calling people to something
00:19:01.600 greater, right? Calling them to respect the dignity of human life. Calling people to virtue,
00:19:10.140 to moral rightness. That's what we have. And just, it's a reality of human nature that exploiting fear
00:19:20.980 is a lot easier to do, and it can often be much more potent, and it can often be much more effective.
00:19:27.980 It's one of the sad realities of human nature. I mean, we have goodness on our side. We have the light
00:19:38.420 of truth on our side. We have love, and dignity, and joy. We have all of that on the pro-life side.
00:19:46.840 And that is all, of course, better than what they have on the pro-abortion side. But when it comes to
00:19:54.200 motivating people, especially in mass, exploiting fear can be a lot more powerful. And so that's what
00:20:02.060 the left has found. And then there's also this, too. Keep in mind. The wording of this initiative
00:20:09.660 is pretty confusing. I mean, they really couldn't have worded it any worse, truly. So here's what the
00:20:16.660 ballot said. So when the people in Kansas went to vote, here's what the ballot said. Okay.
00:20:23.100 Because Kansans value both women and children, the Constitution of the state of Kansas does not
00:20:28.180 require government funding of abortion and does not create or secure a right to abortion.
00:20:33.000 To the extent permitted by the Constitution of the United States, the people, through their elected
00:20:37.160 state representatives and state senators, may pass laws regarding abortion, including, but not limited
00:20:41.940 to, laws that account for circumstances of pregnancy resulting from rape or incest,
00:20:46.140 or circumstances of necessity to save the life of the mother. Okay. So that was the initiative that
00:20:52.240 the Kansans were faced with yesterday. A yes vote is the pro-life vote on that. So a yes vote would say
00:21:01.240 that there is no constitutionally protected right to abortion. So in a way, a yes is a no. You're saying,
00:21:07.920 yes, there is no constitutional right to abortion.
00:21:13.460 And then if you vote no, there is a constitutionally protected right to abortion.
00:21:18.220 Now it's not too difficult to figure out how to interpret this, but it's still too difficult for
00:21:24.080 a ballot initiative. Especially when you consider that on the left, this is whether we're talking about
00:21:31.500 abortion or any other issue, along with exploiting fear, they also exploit confusion and fear and
00:21:39.020 confusion are very much related. They are, they are, you know, two sides of the same coin. They're
00:21:43.600 cousins, at least first cousins. People fear what they, what they're confused about, what they don't
00:21:49.020 understand. And this is what the left always does. They obfuscate, they confuse, they want you kind
00:21:56.900 of lost in the hazy mist where you don't know exactly which way is up and what's going on.
00:22:03.280 So I have a ballot initiative that's confusingly worded is always going to help the, the left more
00:22:10.080 than it's going to help the right. All those things together is how you end up with what happened in
00:22:14.280 Kansas. Although again, it's still a quite sad state of affairs. All right, next we'll go to the view.
00:22:23.900 Speaking of a sad state of affairs, Whoopi Goldberg has been on a roll lately with incredibly bad takes
00:22:30.460 and here's her latest on student loan forgiveness. Listen. If you have worked your behind off, you've
00:22:36.680 tried to move yourself up the ladder. You talk about people can't get gas, they can't buy food,
00:22:42.960 they can't put their children through, through any kind of college. That's because they're paying
00:22:47.680 off these freaking student debts. So here's my point about this because we hear this a lot
00:22:56.260 about why we need student loan forgiveness is because you've got all these college graduates
00:23:01.280 and they've got student loan debt and they can't afford gas, they can't afford food, they can't
00:23:07.020 afford to live. Not because of inflation. It's got nothing to do with inflation. Don't blame inflation.
00:23:11.800 Don't blame the Biden administration. Nothing to do with them. It's because of these student loan
00:23:16.540 debts. And if it wasn't for that, then they'd be able to afford all these things.
00:23:20.560 And yet, the people who make these claims that college graduates don't have, they don't have
00:23:28.520 jobs good enough to afford them the basic necessities of life, the people who make that claim will still
00:23:35.140 insist that college is a necessary and worthwhile investment. I mean, you just, if that's true,
00:23:42.280 what you just said, we've got college graduates who can't even afford food. Apparently, we're not
00:23:49.900 able to get a job with their degree that was good enough to ensure that they can survive.
00:23:58.440 Then wouldn't that, putting student loan, the student loan debt problem aside for a moment,
00:24:03.840 doesn't that show that the college degree is a really bad investment?
00:24:11.740 If you can't even, if you can't even survive, you can't get a, you can't get a survival level job
00:24:16.920 after getting the degree. But they never take it that far. They never connect those dots.
00:24:26.200 Everything, when we talk about student loans, everything they say about it would seem to indicate,
00:24:31.100 and much of what they're saying is, has at least some truth to it.
00:24:38.580 Except that there's the disconnect. Because what they're saying would really seem to indicate
00:24:44.300 that, among other things, the college degree is oftentimes a bad investment. And it's just not
00:24:51.140 working out for many people. They were sold a bill of goods. They were, that's the primary reason
00:24:59.700 people, they went to college in the first place because they were told that they go to college,
00:25:02.860 they're going to get a good job afterwards. And it hasn't played out that way.
00:25:07.560 And it hasn't been playing out that way for years for a huge number of college graduates.
00:25:13.180 So maybe that means we should reassess our, you know, habit, our strategy of funneling everybody
00:25:24.760 into college directly out of high school. Especially that part of it, the directly after high school
00:25:32.020 part. It's crazy to me that we can't at least agree on this. I know I'm never going to be able
00:25:38.840 to get most people to agree with and understand that college in general is unnecessary for a large
00:25:47.240 number of people. Like that's, at least right now, I'm not going to be able to convince most people
00:25:51.580 of that. But can we, can we not at least agree that there is no reason to go into college directly
00:25:59.420 out of high school? I've been saying this forever. I could say it till I'm blue in the face. It's just,
00:26:04.160 there's no reason to do it. I, there might be a few exceptions to every rule. The exception here
00:26:09.880 might be, I don't know if you have a, if you have an athletic, if you have a full ride athletic
00:26:13.340 scholarship. Um, even if you don't have a full ride athletic scholarship for, if you, for athletics,
00:26:22.380 if one of the main reasons you want to go to college is because you're an athlete and you want
00:26:26.820 to play sports at the college level, then that could be a, you know, that's, that's a pretty good
00:26:32.040 reason maybe to go right into college out of high school. But that's the only possible exception that
00:26:39.800 I can conceive of. For everybody else, nothing bad can happen if you leave high school and then just
00:26:47.260 get a job, uh, just live for a couple of years, do whatever, live in the world for a couple of years.
00:26:55.320 There's nothing bad that can happen. You're not in a, in a race. You want to play athletics and that
00:26:59.420 does put you at a little bit of a, of a, it does put you in a race, right? But outside of that,
00:27:04.920 you're not in a race. Even if you want to become a, even if you know that you probably want to be
00:27:09.540 a doctor or a lawyer or something like that, well, you're going to be in school for years anyway.
00:27:15.280 A couple of years isn't going to make or break you. So you spend a couple of years, you, you leave
00:27:20.820 high school, spend a couple of years in the real world, you get a job, you make some money. Um,
00:27:25.840 and worst case scenario, worst case scenario is that you're behind by a couple of years,
00:27:30.800 but you have money in the bank now, but behind who, who are you racing?
00:27:34.920 Now, this is just, this is just, uh, life now. There's the, you're not, you're not racing anybody.
00:27:42.580 Well, I know why the university system doesn't encourage this approach, right? They don't
00:27:49.440 encourage kids to take a couple of years off. And I don't even like the way that's phrased.
00:27:53.460 Take a couple of years off. You're not, you're not taking off. I'm not saying that you should leave
00:28:00.880 high school and then just sit at home and do absolutely nothing for two or three years. I
00:28:04.700 wouldn't encourage that. No, you're going to do something. You're not off at all. And in fact,
00:28:09.320 you were off before. Now you're on, you're in, you're on, you're in, you're in the real world.
00:28:14.020 And the reason the university system does not encourage this is because they realize
00:28:18.360 that if these kids come out of high school and then go out into the real world for a few years,
00:28:24.200 that a large portion of them are never going to go to college because they're going to discover
00:28:29.740 that they don't need college to do what they want to do with their lives.
00:28:36.460 For, for, for many kids during that time, they're going to figure out what they want to do with
00:28:40.540 their lives. And most kids out of high school have no idea. And then you give them a couple of years,
00:28:45.100 they're going to start to figure it out. And many of them are going to discover that their career
00:28:48.200 path, their vocation doesn't require a college degree. So they're not going to go. And the university
00:28:52.540 system is going to lose out on all that money. And that's why they want the kids, they want them
00:28:58.020 in college right away before they know what hit them, before they have time to think about it.
00:29:05.220 And they want you to realize that you don't need the degree after you've already paid for it
00:29:10.600 because there are no refunds. They don't want you to realize that before you pay for it.
00:29:16.040 So that's the university system. I can understand from a pure profit-driven,
00:29:23.820 profit-motivated perspective, why they don't want you to leave high school and go out into the
00:29:29.140 real world. But everybody else, I mean, I, I, that's where I don't get it.
00:29:35.360 Especially parents who pressure their kids to go right from high school to college. It's crazy to me.
00:29:41.300 You are actively working against your child's own best interests. Doesn't make any sense.
00:29:50.020 All right. So this is quite a morbid and sad story about, um, what the LA Times calls and what all
00:29:55.620 pro-euthanasia people call euphemistically death with dignity. And I saw this circulating
00:30:01.240 yesterday online. This is, uh, the headline is one last trip, Gabriella Walsh's decision to die
00:30:07.440 and celebrate life on her own terms. And, uh, it continues with the story. It says,
00:30:14.040 Gabriella Walsh knew she wanted to die on a Saturday. If she'd settled on July 16th,
00:30:18.680 dressing that morning in a flower crown and a t-shirt with a picture of a dragonfly,
00:30:22.600 an image that had comforted her in recent weeks, she took a deep inhale from a bottle of lavender
00:30:27.340 oil and listened to a playlist of sea sounds earlier in the morning, friends and family
00:30:32.180 nuzzled up against her in bed. Rest easy. They told her and keep wandering.
00:30:35.760 I just feel like I'm going on a trip. She said calmly. Within two hours, she would drink a fatal
00:30:41.420 dose of medications prescribed under California's death with dignity law, which allows some terminally
00:30:47.460 ill patients to request drugs to end their lives. The option had given her profound comfort in her
00:30:52.440 final weeks as had knowing that in the end, she'd have, uh, Jack Bar-Sagyan, the registered nurse who
00:30:59.480 managed her hospice care and Jill Shock, a death doula at either side of her bed, a death doula.
00:31:05.740 My God. Now, we should be, uh, very wary about this idea that dignified death is suicide. We
00:31:18.880 shouldn't just be wary of it. We should reject it. Uh, we should passionately reject this idea
00:31:24.160 that the, the, the most dignified way to die is through suicide.
00:31:28.920 And of course the implication here is because she's, this was a woman who's terminally ill
00:31:34.660 with cancer and she chose death with dignity, which was suicide. Implication is that if she
00:31:41.360 had not committed suicide and, and allowed the cancer to kill her, then that is, that's an
00:31:46.140 undignified death. Yes, we should absolutely reject that. Drinking poison given to you by a
00:31:55.240 doctor is dignified. And even if you can't grasp like the moral argument against an individual
00:32:04.400 committing suicide as a means of escaping suffering, if you can't grasp the more, the
00:32:08.700 moral argument, then you should at least be able to understand the other great objection to
00:32:13.320 euthanasia, which is that it further subverts and perverts the medical profession. Um, and because
00:32:22.700 doctors should not be in the position of killing people. And I know that we kind of take it for
00:32:28.740 granted these days that doctors kill and harm people because that's what so many doctors do.
00:32:34.240 And there are billion dollar industries erected around this with abortion, with the, the gender
00:32:39.400 industry, killing, harming, mutilating, drugging, poisoning. Like doctors do that quite a bit these
00:32:46.540 days, but, but they shouldn't, that's not what medicine is. That's why traditionally the Hippocratic
00:32:53.460 oath is do no harm. I mean, the idea that poison, just the simple, the simple concept of calling poison
00:33:02.080 medicine. Well, no medicine treats, medicine is supposed to treat and heal. You have something
00:33:09.820 wrong with you and you take medicine to treat it, to heal it. Uh, so poison, if medicine is poison,
00:33:18.740 what is the disease that it's treating? Life? I guess so. Euthanasia tells us that life itself is a
00:33:28.440 disease and it can be treated with the medicine of a poison that kills somebody. One other point about
00:33:36.960 this, youth, euthanasia, especially under the euphemism of death with dignity is, um, what you
00:33:43.940 get from a death phobic culture. This is our fear of death, our refusal to acknowledge and grapple with
00:33:51.900 the reality of death that produces this. And I know it seems kind of paradoxical. It seems
00:33:55.740 counterintuitive because, um, why would you advocate for death? Why would you advocate for suicide if
00:34:01.980 you're afraid of death? Why would you be pro-death and yet afraid of it? How can you be pro-death and
00:34:09.900 rejecting it at the same time? Well, because this is an attempt to hide from the reality of death. You
00:34:18.240 know, you hear even in the story there that the suicidal person is saying, oh, I'm just going on a trip and
00:34:24.980 you have a death doula and you're taking medicine. This is actually, again, it's a paradox because you
00:34:34.380 are directly killing yourself, but it is actually the fear of death, the rejection of death, the
00:34:39.200 unwillingness to accept the reality of death and of our own mortality. What we want, and the reason why
00:34:45.400 people support euthanasia, really, is because they want to see death as something that we can
00:34:52.240 contain, that we can take control over, that we can have mastery over. You'll often hear of the, uh, of the
00:35:01.920 euthanasia victim that they were dying on their own terms. These are my terms. I'm going to do it my way.
00:35:11.320 As if they have taken, as if they've taken control over life and death. Oh yeah, the grim, grim reaper has no
00:35:18.620 purchase here. I'm going to do it my way. But that's just not how it works. Death is not something
00:35:26.240 that we can control. It is an ever-present reality. It's something that we should accept,
00:35:33.880 a reality that we should accept. Rather than, in effect, you know, using death as a means of escaping
00:35:43.240 it. All right, um, here's a story. You may, you may have heard something about this. This is the
00:35:50.300 latest from the New York Post. It says, a transgender cheerleader kicked out of a Texas
00:35:54.140 college for allegedly choking a teammate denies that there was any physical artication and intends
00:36:00.080 to sue, actually. Avery Chanel Medlock insisted, okay, we've got the pronoun issue here as it's
00:36:07.620 written, so I'm going to try to correct it as we go along. Um, Avery Chanel Medlock, 25, insisted his
00:36:12.300 side of the story wasn't heard before he was slapped with a $500 criminal citation and kicked
00:36:18.160 off of the cheer team for allegedly assaulting another cheerleader on July 24th at, um, Ranger
00:36:22.920 College. Medlock told the Post, there was no physical contact at all. I was just trying to talk it out
00:36:27.800 as an adult. Medlock, whose legal name is Avery Chanel Satchel, claims that teammate Carly Jones got upset
00:36:34.620 when she refused to buy her a vape. With the way it's pronounced, or switched around, I'm, this gets
00:36:42.160 even more confusing. So, who was, who refused to buy who a vape? I don't even know now. Medlock later
00:36:49.180 went to Carly's room to apologize, but an argument ensued rather than an assault as alleged. Medlock's
00:36:56.580 teammate then called her father who called the police. The athlete said that she was then escorted
00:37:01.400 off of university grounds and booted from Ranger College cheer team. She as in he, the guy. Okay,
00:37:06.860 it's just, it makes it impossible to understand anything, of course, uh, when we're doing this
00:37:11.480 pronoun thing. Uh, messages seeking comment from Ranger College cheerleading coach Nicholas Turner
00:37:16.480 and university officials were not immediately returned. Medlock says, if I would have assaulted
00:37:20.900 her, I'd be in jail. Um, and yet the police say that there was an assault. Okay, so that's the story
00:37:27.840 is that that was originally a story that this cheerleader who is, who is a male, but identifies as a
00:37:34.140 female as on the cheerleading squad, uh, physically assaulted. In fact, choked a, an actual female on
00:37:40.840 the team. And the original story was that he reacted that way because the female said, you know,
00:37:46.940 remarked about the fact that he has a penis and therefore isn't a woman. And he responded violently.
00:37:52.080 The father was called, the police were called, the police say that there was an assault that occurred.
00:37:56.180 And, um, even though they're just slapping the assailant with a minor fine about, you know,
00:38:01.600 about on par with what you get for a parking violation, but the assault did happen.
00:38:05.960 Now he's coming out and saying, Oh no, it never happened at all.
00:38:09.700 A couple of points here. First of all, we're going to put some of the, the, uh, pictures up on the
00:38:13.520 screen that are in the New York post article. And we've seen, and anytime the story comes up on social
00:38:18.540 media, these are the pictures attached to it. And you can see, this is the, uh, the trans cheerleader
00:38:23.340 and you can see, okay, there's another one there just filtered and Photoshop to death.
00:38:32.820 It look, look at this one right here is come on. It looks like he, it looks like he peeled off
00:38:38.340 somebody else's face and put it on. Um, when you, when you have to do that, okay, then maybe that
00:38:49.400 should tell you something like the pictures that are being circulated of this guy are, these are
00:38:55.400 not pictures. These are cartoon drawings. That's not what he looks like at all. But also maybe more
00:39:02.480 importantly, the violence is not a surprise at all as the existence of men in these spaces, in women's
00:39:09.840 sports and women's bathrooms, men claiming the label of womanhood for themselves in any context at
00:39:14.680 all. You know, this is a form of violence already. I'm going to use the left's framing against it here
00:39:20.480 because they like to say that everything is violence. Speech is violence. Silence is violence.
00:39:25.220 Uh, sometimes violence though, isn't violence, but everything else is violence. Well, I would say
00:39:31.120 that this is violence. Even before you get to the physical assault, before the physical assault
00:39:34.820 happens, it is violence because when men intrude into these spaces and they appropriate female
00:39:41.300 identities, it is an invasion, it's an intrusion. It is a, a robbery, stealing privacy, stealing a woman's
00:39:49.100 identity, stealing opportunities, all of that. And it comes with an implicit and often explicit threat
00:39:55.240 of social shaming, of loss of job, loss of status. You know, if you, if a woman protests it.
00:40:05.860 So when the man shows up, whether he says it out loud or not, and oftentimes he does say it out loud,
00:40:10.280 but even if he doesn't, the, the implied threat to all of the women is that you better go along with
00:40:16.480 this. You better let them into your spaces. You better, you better sacrifice privacy on the altar
00:40:23.060 of, uh, of this man's ego. And if you don't, bad things are going to happen to you.
00:40:30.540 So that is violence in and of itself. And then it shouldn't be a surprise when you have this sort of
00:40:38.600 implied threat that always accompanies the man as he enters into these female spaces.
00:40:47.000 It's going to be a surprise when he actually lashes out violently.
00:40:50.400 And in particular, because of the, uh, because of the sense of entitlement that's, that's encouraged.
00:40:58.780 I mean, these guys have already been told by society, you can do whatever you want.
00:41:02.960 The only thing that matters is your comfort level. The only thing that matters is how you feel.
00:41:09.880 That's all that matters. That should be your number one, number two, one through 10 list of priorities.
00:41:16.000 It's all about you. And so you put all those things together and you have a recipe for actual
00:41:22.840 physical violence against women. So this is not a surprise at all. Uh, one other thing to note,
00:41:27.240 sad news today. I'm afraid from the New York post, it says the DC comics film Batgirl will be
00:41:33.180 completely shelved by Warner brothers. A top Hollywood source told the post that means it won't hit
00:41:37.960 theaters or the streaming service, uh, HBO max fans will not see this movie at all. Uh, the reportedly
00:41:44.460 $70 million movie, which actually had a budget closer to a hundred million was doing test screenings
00:41:49.760 for audiences in anticipation of a late 2022 debut. And it would rank among the most expensive
00:41:55.300 cinematic casts off ever. So this is what, what's happening here is that they made this film
00:42:00.860 Batgirl and they spent a hundred million dollars on it. And now they're just, it's so bad that
00:42:05.840 they're simply not going to release it at all. Nobody will ever see it. That's how bad it is,
00:42:09.580 which I find quite hilarious. Uh, and also of course it's a bad movie. It's Batgirl.
00:42:18.920 There is no version of that film that can be good. It is guaranteed to be terrible.
00:42:27.600 No big surprise that your investment was wasted. And like I've said before with these female
00:42:32.980 superheroes, it doesn't even begin to work when you have a female superhero.
00:42:38.580 If the character doesn't have actual superpowers, it's absurd enough already when you give the
00:42:44.600 superhero, uh, godlike powers and everything. And, but when it's, when it's in the Batman universe
00:42:51.220 and there are no actual superpowers, and now I'm supposed to take it seriously that this,
00:42:57.920 that this girl with no superpowers is going around beating up bad guys
00:43:02.380 in her, uh, leather bat outfit. So you can't do the, the only way that these superhero films
00:43:11.080 can claim any kind of artistic credibility, um, the only way that they can be elevated,
00:43:16.720 right, is if they go with the gritty, you know, we're going to go gritty, realistic,
00:43:20.940 and that's what they do with the Batman films. Well, you can't do that when it's a,
00:43:24.600 when you've got some 23-year-old woman, you know, 112 pounds going around beating up a bunch of,
00:43:32.120 uh, a bunch of bad guys. Just doesn't work. So a hundred million dollars wasted. Pretty great
00:43:37.240 stuff. Let's get to the comment section. Congrats on the twins, Matt, says Dizzy Unknown. Will the DW
00:43:56.600 give us a last man standing type sitcom based on your life should you have twin girls? Maybe get
00:44:02.480 Tim Allen to play a grandpa. It would be a hit, just saying. Uh, you know, we really should do
00:44:07.720 something with Tim Allen. He's, it seems to be right up our alley and he's been canceled, of course,
00:44:12.400 and he was kicked off of the Buzz Lightyear, the Woka Buzz Lightyear film that just came out. So
00:44:16.240 maybe this is it. I don't know. It's not a bad idea. Candace says, okay, Matt, from where do the
00:44:22.220 stats come that you're using to assert that black people are more likely to commit violent crimes than
00:44:27.380 white people? How do crimes get counted? By crimes committed, criminal activity reported,
00:44:32.020 criminal charges filed, or convictions minus successful appeals slash overturned convictions.
00:44:37.000 Because if the stats rely on police reporting and or court convictions, and the claim is
00:44:41.300 afro-featured people are more targeted, arrested, charged, and convicted by law than folk with light
00:44:48.980 skin due to aesthetic appearance and false assumptions rather than behavioral observations,
00:44:54.140 well, then obviously the stats will reinforce the false assumptions, right? For me personally,
00:44:58.560 I tend to get uneasy when a strange unkept 25 to 50 year old white male is near me, especially if
00:45:04.440 wide-eyed because I think mass shooter, but I don't call them out or anything like that.
00:45:10.340 Okay. Well, uh, where do the stats come from? I find fair question. They come from the FBI. These
00:45:16.520 are FBI crime statistics, which consistently show year over year over year that black offenders account
00:45:21.960 for over 50% of homicides, which is a vastly disproportionate share. Okay. I mean, vastly
00:45:28.580 disproportionate. Now, um, and that's not just, I mean, the FBI crime, you go to the FBI website and
00:45:36.300 find those crime statistics, but, but any crime, any, anywhere you go, like go anywhere else, wherever
00:45:41.140 your preferred source of information is on crime statistics, they're all going to tell you that.
00:45:46.280 Now, if you're suggesting that there are hundreds of thousands of white murderers running around out
00:45:53.220 there who are let off scot-free and never pursued because of their race. And, um, if only they would
00:45:59.060 be arrested too, then it would even out the statistics. Well, if that's what you're suggesting
00:46:03.100 or, or, uh, theorizing, I'm going to need even like one single little shred of the smallest bit of
00:46:10.580 evidence to support that, but you don't have that. Do you? Because it's absurd. Okay. So we,
00:46:19.880 we can talk about why this disparity in violent crime exists. That's a good conversation to have.
00:46:26.080 And we're going to get into the collapse of the family and many other things, but, um, it's an
00:46:29.940 interesting and worthy conversation, but it does exist. It just simply does. That's a fact.
00:46:36.340 Okay. And your fears that just some, that, that any random 25 to 50 year old white male you come
00:46:44.580 across as a mass shooter, that actually is statistically unreasonable because the, uh,
00:46:53.000 proportion of mass shooters among the white population, white male population is so vanishingly
00:46:59.420 small that you may as well walk around worried that, um, you know, a meteor is going to fall on your
00:47:05.400 head. And also I should note that white males do not account for a disproportionate amount of mass
00:47:12.820 shootings either. So look, these are all the facts. These are all the statistics and they say what they
00:47:16.980 say. That's it. So you, that's my point. You, when it comes to interpreting, when it comes to
00:47:23.200 explaining all these things, that that's where we can have a more in-depth conversation and people can
00:47:29.840 have different points of view and it becomes a bit more nuanced and it's a larger conversation.
00:47:33.440 But the starting point of the statistical facts, well, those are, there's just simply are what
00:47:38.200 they are and that's it. Um, G Hibiscus says, uh, Hey Matt, just heard you were having another set of
00:47:48.960 twins. Congrats on that sweet daddy. And this really is what y'all get for saying one kid is easy.
00:47:55.440 Fair analysis. That is a fair point. Scott says, Matt, what do I win? If I can correctly guess the
00:48:01.600 names of your new set of twins, well, there's nothing to guess right now because we have no
00:48:05.120 idea what the names are. You could suggest some names. I mean, I'm open to that. I'm open to
00:48:08.440 suggestion. We take the name question all the way down to the wire. This is what we've done with
00:48:12.280 every kid. We'll be like five hours from birth and, uh, we're going through the alphabet. This is
00:48:17.160 what we end up doing is just going through the alphabet, A, B, C, and listing every name that starts
00:48:22.300 with that letter as we go down and land on something. Um, so we don't know, but again, open to
00:48:28.540 suggestions. Jenna, and I know I'm going to regret saying that I'm open to suggestions on that, but I
00:48:32.660 just said it. Jennifer says, Matt, are you rooting for one gender or another? Well, uh, they're looking
00:48:39.620 identical. So either our family is going to be four boys and two girls or four girls and two boys.
00:48:45.600 So there is very high stakes here. One team or the other is going to be vastly outnumbered here. Um,
00:48:52.040 as for which I prefer, I'll take whatever God blesses us with. There's pros and cons.
00:48:58.540 Cons either way. That's the truth. Um, boys are, they're, uh, less emotional. They're a little
00:49:04.340 bit easier to understand. They're less prone to random emotional outbursts. Uh, they're,
00:49:10.960 you know, rough and tumble. They're a lot of fun. You can pick them up and toss them around.
00:49:16.160 Girls though, on the other hand are now they, they are more prone to random confusing emotional
00:49:22.200 outbursts and all those kinds of things, but they're also much, much more helpful around the
00:49:26.160 house than boys are. Boys are basically useless around the house. That's the truth.
00:49:31.200 Like my nine-year-old daughter can, she can, you know, she can, she, she likes to, with our two-year-old,
00:49:37.580 she likes to put the two-year-old to bed. She's like, Oh, can I put her to bed? Sure. Go ahead.
00:49:43.080 So, um, girls are also less likely to break things, including, uh, their own bones and limbs and
00:49:49.040 objects around the house. So there's, you know, there are unique challenges and joys with either one.
00:49:54.000 And so it's hard to really root for one or the other. Um, and finally, Liam says, why do you get
00:50:01.680 so mad or ban someone every time people question how the sweet baby gang started? Well, you are
00:50:07.880 tempting fate by even asking that question, Liam. And today it was the wrong gamble because you're
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00:51:07.460 our daily cancellation. For our daily cancellation, we head back to history class, a subject that kids learn
00:51:17.060 every year in public school, which means that they never really learned the subject at all, of course.
00:51:21.600 It falls then to others. Sometimes it even falls to podcasters without a college degree to pick up
00:51:27.360 the slack. That's what I tried to do over the weekend and then on my show on Monday as we discussed the
00:51:31.660 issue of slavery. No need to rehash all of my points. My primary goal was to communicate the fact
00:51:36.200 that the story of slavery is much larger, much deeper, much wider ranging than the version they tell in
00:51:41.540 schools and the media and Hollywood. As I observed, white people were slaves also. Millions of them
00:51:47.260 were in fact. The trade in white slaves, especially in North Africa, but even in North America, was big
00:51:52.840 business. It's a fact, an important one. But not everybody agreed, which isn't to say that they
00:51:58.460 disagreed with the facts that I was sharing. You can't disagree with facts. You can either choose to
00:52:02.560 acknowledge them or not. But facts don't care about your feelings or your acknowledgement, it turns out.
00:52:07.380 No, the critics disagreed not with the indisputable facts about slavery that I discussed,
00:52:12.420 but rather with the fact that I was discussing them. They felt that it was horrible, Nazi-esque,
00:52:19.500 it was racist, white supremacist, to even hint that there might be more to the slavery issue
00:52:24.820 than the white enslavement of black Africans in the West from the 17th to 19th centuries.
00:52:29.640 As mentioned on the show on Monday, the critics were mostly on the left, but not solely.
00:52:33.640 Maj Touré, who's a well-known gun rights activist, was quite vigorous and relentless in his criticism.
00:52:39.720 He said that my statements about slavery were dumb, reductive, counterproductive, horrible,
00:52:44.660 retarded, his word, and many other things. He said that I was damaging the inroads that
00:52:50.540 conservatives had made with the black community. And he continued in this vein in many tweets and
00:52:55.680 videos railing against me for mentioning that white people were slaves. So finally on Monday,
00:52:59.880 he appeared on my friend Jason Whitlock's show on The Blaze to further explain his point of view.
00:53:04.620 I watched the segment, and I have to tell you that after listening to him, if anything,
00:53:08.400 I understand his criticisms less than I did before. So let's go through this together. Listen.
00:53:14.160 First, I did like what is a woman. I think Matt is usually spot on on certain things. It's similar to
00:53:22.320 a lot of conservatives. I'm very critical. It's almost like if we're going into the tactic room,
00:53:29.360 right? What does this actually prove? I just did an interview. And, you know, we discussed a guy
00:53:35.440 said, well, you know, what would be wrong with all lives matter? And I'm like, well, there's nothing
00:53:39.060 technically wrong with it. If you thought that you should have said it before BLM said black lives
00:53:43.720 matter. It's just what it is. And everybody knows. I don't really bang with BLM as an organization,
00:53:48.140 but the phrase and the reductive component. Well, this is perhaps beside the point, but for the
00:53:56.720 record, lots of us were saying all lives matter before BLM came along. That was and still is the
00:54:03.660 central motto of the pro-life movement. We didn't steal it from them. They stole it from us. We didn't
00:54:09.320 start saying all lives matter when BLM came along. We kept saying it. We were told, though,
00:54:16.100 that we had to stop saying it because somehow left-wing black activists were the only ones
00:54:20.700 allowed to decide and declare which lives mattered. But even if we had started saying it only after BLM
00:54:26.600 was formed, so what? It's still true. And besides, this is meant to be a response and corrective to
00:54:33.020 BLM militants who, in fact, as is obvious, do not believe that all lives matter. The BLM movement is a
00:54:39.520 black supremacist movement, and that's why all lives matter was and still is a necessary rejoinder to it.
00:54:44.600 By the way, Maj is the founder of an organization called Black Guns Matter. He sells t-shirts with
00:54:51.540 the phrase on it. So, Maj, were you saying Black Guns Matter before Black Lives Matter came along?
00:54:57.780 Something tells me that you weren't. Yet you can use the BLM slogan to sell shirts and advocate for
00:55:02.180 gun rights, but we can't use it to advocate for the fundamental worth and value of human life in
00:55:06.260 general? It's reductive for us to say all lives matter, but not for you to say Black Guns Matter?
00:55:11.880 Interesting. Let's continue.
00:55:16.580 And let me be clear. If we're trying to make inroads into Black communities, these types of
00:55:23.660 takes that have nothing to do with anything.
00:55:26.920 I got to stop you there again very briefly. We'll back up and play the whole clip. But
00:55:30.520 he says, my take had nothing to do with anything. Well, that's not true. I mean,
00:55:35.980 it had something to do with history, with truth, with the facts of the world that shaped human
00:55:40.080 civilization. It had something to do with the racial grievance industry, which trades on the idea
00:55:44.240 that slavery in America was a unique and unprecedented evil, when in fact it was not. It
00:55:48.560 was an evil, but not unique or unprecedented. It had something to do with lots of different things.
00:55:53.040 It had something to do with a book that I read and I wanted to talk about. It had something to do with
00:55:56.360 what happened to be on my mind at that moment. All of these are perfectly fine rationales for sharing my
00:56:02.560 thoughts. The criticism that Maj is offering here is by far the most useless, boring, and exhausting
00:56:08.120 form of criticism, and also perhaps the most common on the internet. That's why I find it so
00:56:12.280 irritating. This is the, you know, why are you talking about this? Why talk about this and not
00:56:16.420 something else? I don't care about this. Why are you discussing it? It's that whole routine.
00:56:21.480 It's a totally worthless critique. It really is. Just because you don't find a subject important or
00:56:26.900 relevant or worthy of consideration doesn't mean that nobody should ever talk about it. I don't have
00:56:31.980 to explain to you why I want to discuss something. I don't have to seek your permission ahead of time.
00:56:38.920 If you don't care about the subject or find it important, then keep moving. Keep scrolling.
00:56:42.960 No one's forcing you to participate in a conversation that you apparently find so
00:56:46.680 unworthy of your attention. It just would never, I'd never do this to people. I never go into,
00:56:52.640 go to someone else's page or listen to their podcast or whatever, and then say, why are you
00:56:56.580 talking about this? Why this? And not, not this other thing over here. It's just, the criticism makes
00:57:02.940 no sense. So we're not off to a good start, but let's continue.
00:57:07.000 These types of takes that have nothing to do with anything,
00:57:13.760 kind of like just gives extreme leftists more of a tool to utilize against us. And what I mean by that
00:57:20.760 is, if I'm a person in the middle, let's say I'm a Democrat and I'm not the extreme lefty. I think a
00:57:28.340 lot of these guys are making moves that are like reactionary to what extreme lefties do.
00:57:34.820 That doesn't advance conservative movements to people that may be in the middle in a democratic
00:57:40.500 city. So we say a thing and then an extreme leftist packages and says, see, they're minimizing
00:57:45.840 your ability or the history of the transatlantic slave trade. Now, Matt may have not been trying
00:57:52.880 to do that. I'm talking about from a tactical and strategic standpoint, the left dominates urban
00:57:59.040 and black America because they understand PR and messaging way better than the right does.
00:58:04.460 Simple and plain. They have to because they don't have many facts. Sorry, they just don't. So they have
00:58:09.340 to be very good at smoking mirrors and lying and PR because that's what a lot of public relations or
00:58:14.720 perception and reality is. This and I think maybe Matt's following maybe took it a little too,
00:58:20.940 they got a little sensitive about it, but it's always one step in the right direction with a lot
00:58:26.480 of conservatives. And then we say something that makes the job of my job a lot more difficult
00:58:32.440 because it's like, damn, that sounds like you're trying to downplay the role. And that's what every
00:58:37.860 extreme leftist is going to do. And so from a strategic and tactical standpoint,
00:58:42.480 this does not spread conservative values or make the job better. We keep going with this
00:58:47.820 facts don't care about your feelings concept. And how has that been working out for us by not
00:58:53.000 expressing any type of empathy first? Well, it's worked out pretty well, actually. Thank you for
00:58:58.280 asking. Refusing to be emotionally blackmailed by dishonest, manipulative cry bullies has been a
00:59:03.340 tremendously successful approach. It's one of the reasons why the guy who coined that phrase is one
00:59:08.040 of the most influential thinkers in the country. And the company he co-founded is making inroads
00:59:11.960 into the culture in ways that nobody else on the right ever has, certainly including our friend
00:59:16.460 Maj. But let's back it up a bit. Maj accuses me of being reactionary, right? Reacting to the left.
00:59:23.740 And yet his entire critique centers around the left and how he thinks we should react to it.
00:59:30.900 Well, we can't say that. The radical left will use it against us.
00:59:34.780 He suggests that the black community will be easily duped by the dishonest talking points of the left
00:59:39.760 and so that we should calibrate our approach accordingly. He does allow generously that
00:59:45.060 perhaps I wasn't trying to minimize the transatlantic slave trade. Maybe I wasn't. But he says that the
00:59:50.560 left will accuse me of doing that. So let me see if I have this right. You're worried that the left
00:59:55.620 will accuse me of something dishonestly? And so your strategy is to head them off at the pass and
01:00:00.400 accuse me of it first? Now, Maj, you're a smart guy. I know that you're not dumb enough to believe
01:00:06.180 that I was minimizing the slave trade or indeed that any rational person would ever do that.
01:00:13.520 Suggesting that I even might have tried to minimize the slave trade by talking about other forms of
01:00:17.780 slavery, it's like suggesting that I might be minimizing kidney cancer by talking about lung cancer.
01:00:22.780 It's an incoherent, ridiculous, fundamentally dishonest accusation, and you know it.
01:00:31.160 Everybody understands that slavery in America was a terrible evil. Nobody suggests otherwise.
01:00:40.300 Everybody agrees that it was bad, which is all the more reason why perhaps at this point,
01:00:45.400 it might be time to expand the conversation to talk about the forms of slavery that lots of people
01:00:50.880 don't even know existed. We talk about slavery all the time in America, the American form of slavery.
01:00:58.860 Kids learn about it. They make movies about it. Activists scream about it. It is a constant,
01:01:04.100 ever-present historical reality. Nobody has forgotten it. Nobody could ever forget it.
01:01:09.760 Everyone knows that it happened and everyone agrees that it was unspeakably evil and it should
01:01:14.060 not have happened. Everybody, everybody. Okay. Which is good, right? It's good that everybody
01:01:23.400 knows it happened and everyone thinks it's bad. Success on that subject. Should that be the end
01:01:30.340 of the slavery conversation or might we at this juncture widen the lens a little bit to try to get a
01:01:38.600 look at the fuller picture? Now, it seems that you would prefer that we keep the lens narrow and
01:01:47.140 rather than admitting that your preference is your preference, you try to farm it off to the radical
01:01:52.160 left, claiming that you're only telling me what they will say. And sure, yeah, the left does say that
01:01:58.540 any discussion of historical atrocities not centered around the plight of black Africans in America is
01:02:03.460 inherently racist. They do say that and they're wrong. You're saying it too and you are also wrong.
01:02:10.960 Now, you talk about tactics and strategy. You use the word interchangeably like they mean the same
01:02:16.560 thing. They don't. Strategy is your overall approach to the war. Tactics are the maneuvers,
01:02:22.720 the individual steps, specific actions that you take in service to that strategy. I'm not splitting hairs
01:02:27.260 here. I mean, the difference is actually important because you say that we should avoid certain
01:02:31.020 uncomfortable truths strategically and also tactically. But which is it? Is this our strategy? Is our
01:02:36.940 strategy to abandon the truth, cede the entire historical and racial narrative to the left in
01:02:41.700 hopes of outflanking them to their left? If so, then sure. I mean, only talking about slavery or racial
01:02:47.980 injustices in terms that the left demands is a good tactic. But it's a tactic and a strategy that loses
01:02:54.760 the war. It is a surrender. See, my goal, my strategy and my tactic are actually all the same for me
01:03:02.180 because I'm a simple man. So for me, it's the truth. I just say what is true. If I say something
01:03:10.380 and it's not true, you know, if I inadvertently say something, I'm incorrect about what I'm saying
01:03:15.260 and you have a counter argument that proves that it's incorrect, then I will listen.
01:03:19.760 And if you can convince me that it was incorrect, then I'll change my point of view. But if you admit
01:03:25.840 that I'm saying the truth and you still criticize me for saying it, well, I'm just not interested in
01:03:33.260 that critique. I'm really not. If one person is saying the truth and the other person doesn't want
01:03:39.560 to hear the truth, whatever their reason, the problem lies entirely 100% with the latter. So you say,
01:03:47.080 well, what about all the people who don't want to hear about this? That's their problem. That's not
01:03:51.340 my problem. There is something wrong with them that they don't want to hear a truth. And in this case,
01:03:59.600 they don't want to hear a truth about the way the entire world worked for thousands of years.
01:04:05.800 That's their problem, not mine. As for me, you know, I think what our culture lacks most of all is not
01:04:12.920 empathy. It's not feeling. It's not pity or patronizing pats on the head, but truth. And anyone
01:04:20.400 who stands against truth or insists that the truth be muffled or silenced or withheld is today, I'm afraid
01:04:28.780 to say, Maj, canceled. And we'll leave it there for today. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.
01:04:34.540 Have a great day. Godspeed.
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