The Matt Walsh Show - July 17, 2026


Everyone Needs To Know The Real Story of Daniel Boone


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Daniel Boone, the pioneer, trailblazer, and eventual folk hero of the American frontier, had been captured by the Shawnee while out collecting salt in 1778. He was given a new name, Sheltui, which means Big Turtle, and taken into captivity.

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00:01:13.560 blows landed on him. If he fell, the consequences were clear. He would be beaten to death on the
00:01:19.480 spot. If he made it to the end, still standing, the reward was a little less clear. He might be
00:01:24.400 allowed to live, or he might not. Boone did not hesitate. He weaved his way through the gauntlet,
00:01:29.380 making it from one end to the other quickly. While sustaining relatively minor injuries,
00:01:33.740 the Shawnee chief, a man called Blackfish, was impressed. So impressed that he decided to let
00:01:39.260 Daniel Boone live, at least for now. He would take Boone as a prisoner, and in keeping with
00:01:44.060 the custom of many Indian tribes, give him a new name, Sheltui, which means big turtle.
00:01:49.960 It was February of 1778.
00:01:52.660 Daniel Boone, the pioneer, trailblazer, and eventual folk hero of the American frontier,
00:01:58.580 had been captured by the Shawnee while out collecting salt.
00:02:01.840 In those days, and in that part of the country, still in its infancy,
00:02:05.380 getting salt was not as simple as running to the grocery store,
00:02:08.960 and salt itself was not merely a seasoning to make your food taste better.
00:02:12.740 It was a vital survival necessity.
00:02:14.680 Salt was how you preserve meat.
00:02:16.920 And back in Boonesboro, the settlement that Boone founded, they were running dangerously low.
00:02:22.260 So Boone set out with a group of 30 men to the Salt Springs, about 60 miles away.
00:02:27.020 It was an arduous task, which would take several weeks to complete.
00:02:30.180 And it would leave the settlement, one of only a scattered few in the wilderness of Kentucky, vulnerable to attack.
00:02:36.100 But they had no choice.
00:02:37.740 The Shawnee found Boone and his men while they were out near the Salt Spring.
00:02:40.860 Boone's group was badly outnumbered, had no hope of resistance.
00:02:44.960 The even worse news was that a number of Shawnee wanted to execute all the prisoners outright.
00:02:49.540 And there was news somehow even worse than that.
00:02:52.160 This same Shawnee party was on its way to Boonesboro,
00:02:54.940 which, with Boone and his company captured, was almost entirely defenseless.
00:02:58.920 Boone's wife and children, and the wives and children of many of the rest of the men, were sitting ducks.
00:03:04.100 But Daniel Boone was crafty when he needed to be.
00:03:06.660 He convinced Blackfish that if they left the settlement alone for the winter,
00:03:11.080 he would personally accompany the Shawnee back to the settlement in the spring and persuade the
00:03:15.700 residents to surrender peacefully. Boone was apparently convincing enough in this ruse that
00:03:20.660 some of his own men thought he had turned traitor, a fact that down the line would lead to a
00:03:25.380 court-martial. For now, Blackfish bought Boone's argument and he was persuaded to let all the men
00:03:30.660 live as prisoners, but first they, or at least Boone, would have to run and survive the gauntlet,
00:03:35.780 which he did. Boone remained in captivity for several months, long enough that the people back
00:03:40.680 in Boonesboro, to include his wife and children,
00:03:42.880 gave him up for dead.
00:03:44.180 But things changed in June of 1778.
00:03:46.260 Boone learned that Blackfish was planning
00:03:48.260 to assemble a war party and descend on Boonesboro.
00:03:51.560 He had apparently abandoned his plans for diplomacy.
00:03:54.360 Boone knew that he had to make a move and make it fast.
00:03:57.200 So he made a run for it.
00:03:58.400 He escaped the Shawnee Village
00:03:59.740 and fled into the wilderness.
00:04:01.640 He would have to make it home in time
00:04:03.000 to warn them of the coming attack,
00:04:04.700 but there was a problem.
00:04:05.880 Home was 160 miles away.
00:04:08.500 160 miles through the wilderness,
00:04:10.280 a distance that Boone would have to travel mostly on foot
00:04:13.780 after his horse collapsed and died early in the journey.
00:04:16.900 Now, it's hard for our modern minds
00:04:18.180 to appreciate a distance like 160 miles.
00:04:21.140 And these days, we might drive that length in an afternoon.
00:04:23.440 When you factor in a Starbucks stop
00:04:25.520 and maybe a bathroom break, it should take about three hours.
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00:04:33.560 and an army of natives on their way 1.00
00:04:35.040 to murder your entire family is a different matter entirely. 1.00
00:04:39.560 And this must all be done with almost no provisions.
00:04:41.820 Indeed, we know that Boone carried very little.
00:04:44.540 Whatever supplies he had could not have amounted to much.
00:04:47.240 One account suggests that during the entire journey,
00:04:49.700 he ate only a single meal and a small piece of dried venison.
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00:04:55.160 the broader reality is not a doubt.
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00:04:59.840 He was fleeing for his life
00:05:01.680 and for the lives of everybody in the settlement.
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00:06:20.440 Daniel Boone was born in Pennsylvania in 1734, more than four decades before the United States would even exist as a country.
00:06:27.240 The frontier of the British colonies lay far to the east of where most Americans live today.
00:06:32.980 Beyond it stretched millions of acres of forest, mountains, rivers, and wilderness that Europeans had barely explored.
00:06:39.980 Much of the continent remained a blank space on the map.
00:06:42.820 From an early age, he seemed drawn to it.
00:06:45.440 Boone learned to hunt as a boy and quickly developed a reputation for spending long stretches of time alone in the woods.
00:06:51.240 While most people viewed the wilderness as an obstacle, something to be conquered or endured,
00:06:56.320 Boone was at home there.
00:06:57.620 He could navigate by landmarks that other people barely noticed,
00:07:01.100 track animals through dense forest, survive with remarkably little.
00:07:05.760 These skills were not unique on the frontier.
00:07:07.500 Many men possessed them.
00:07:08.540 What was unusual was Boone's appetite for the unknown.
00:07:12.160 Now, most settlers wanted to build a life at the edge of civilization.
00:07:15.020 Boone always seemed more interested in what lay beyond the edge, out in the wild.
00:07:19.940 In 1773, Boone, by now married with eight children,
00:07:22.720 and led a party of roughly 50 people into the wilds
00:07:25.740 of the Kentucky territory.
00:07:27.380 He had first heard the stories two decades earlier,
00:07:30.000 tales of a land thick with game, rich and wild,
00:07:33.120 and all but untouched by European hands.
00:07:35.820 Now he meant to go out and see it for himself
00:07:37.960 and to bring his family with him,
00:07:39.240 to establish what would be one of the first
00:07:41.360 Anglo-American settlements in Kentucky.
00:07:43.680 But the frontier rarely let such ambitions pass 0.95
00:07:46.680 without exacting a price,
00:07:47.920 and as so often happened out there,
00:07:49.860 tragedy struck before they ever arrived.
00:07:52.520 Along the way, a small detachment sent back to retrieve supplies lost its way trying to rejoin Boone's main party.
00:07:59.540 Somewhere in that confusion, the group was ambushed by Indian warriors.
00:08:02.940 Among them was Boone's own son.
00:08:05.880 16-year-old James was tortured, butchered, and left mutilated and dead alongside five others.
00:08:12.020 Daniel Boone came upon the grisly scene later that same day.
00:08:16.380 The whole company, traumatized by what they saw and gutted by the loss, resolved to return, turn back.
00:08:22.520 Boone urged them to press on he still wanted to go but it was no use two years later in 1775 Boone
00:08:28.800 tried again he went back into the very wilderness that had swallowed his son's life a place that had
00:08:33.920 every reason to haunt him and every reason to keep him away this time he led a band of about 30
00:08:39.560 heavily armed men with axes and together they hacked and cut their way through the Cumberland
00:08:44.400 Gap carving open a path to the land west of the Appalachian Mountains yet even then the wilderness
00:08:50.580 was not finished testing him.
00:08:52.280 Only days before reaching their destination,
00:08:54.280 Boone's party was ambushed once more.
00:08:56.600 Two of his men were killed.
00:08:57.960 But this time, they held their ground,
00:08:59.160 fought off the attack, and pressed on.
00:09:00.840 In April of that year, on the banks of the Kentucky River,
00:09:02.940 Daniel Boone raised a small fort,
00:09:04.620 a refuge for his family and several others.
00:09:07.300 He called it Boonesboro.
00:09:08.680 Now, of course, life in a little fortress in the wilderness,
00:09:11.420 ringed by hostile natives, was anything but easy.
00:09:14.360 The fort was under near-constant threat.
00:09:17.100 And about a year after it was built,
00:09:18.280 the Boone family suffered yet another brush with tragedy,
00:09:20.580 Boone's 13-year-old daughter, Jemima, had gone canoeing with two friends within sight of the
00:09:25.920 walls when they were spotted by an Indian raiding party, a mixed band of Shawnee and Cherokee
00:09:30.760 warriors. The girls were pulled from the boat and carried off. Their captors meant to take them
00:09:35.300 north, all the way across the Ohio, and deep into Shawnee territory. When Daniel Boone learned that
00:09:40.000 his daughter had been taken, he gathered a small group of men and set off after them. Fortunately,
00:09:44.000 the girls had the presence of mind to leave a trail, snapping branches, dropping torn scraps 0.99
00:09:48.560 of fabric along the way, a thread for Boone to follow through the trees. Three days later,
00:09:54.060 the rescue party crept up on the Indians as they ate breakfast over a campfire. The men opened fire,
00:09:58.800 cutting down several of the captors. The rest scattered into the wilderness. The girls were
00:10:03.460 recovered alive and mostly unharmed. As the story goes, one of the warriors killed that morning was
00:10:08.780 a son of Chief Blackfish, the very same chief who would take Boone himself prisoner three years
00:10:14.300 later. So as Boone tore through the forest in 1778, it was not the first desperate dash he had
00:10:19.900 made to save his family. He completed that journey 160 miles, the bulk of it on foot, in just five
00:10:26.200 days. He reached Boone's burrow and the family and neighbors who had long since given him up for dead
00:10:32.080 in September. Blackfish and the Shawnee had not yet arrived. There was still time to ready the
00:10:37.640 fort for battle. And so that's exactly what they set about doing. A few days later, the enemy force
00:10:42.760 appeared. Boone counted more than 400 Indians, mostly Shawnee, a scattering of Cherokees and
00:10:48.320 Delawares, at least 12 French Canadian militiamen fighting on behalf of the British. Against this
00:10:53.100 formidable host, Boone had at the very most 60 men, maybe as few as 40. He'd just run for his
00:10:59.520 life across 160 miles of wilderness. Now he'd have to stand and fight for it and for the lives of
00:11:05.500 everybody inside the fort. The siege dragged on for some 10 days. The Shawnee tried every tactic
00:11:10.980 they could devise at one point they even attempted to tunnel beneath the walls of the fort but after
00:11:15.540 a week and a half of fighting they abandoned the effort and withdrew boone's men had suffered only
00:11:20.580 five or six casualties the fort had held and the settlement survived having saved boomsboro
00:11:25.700 daniel boone would go on to claim nearly 100 000 acres of kentucky land and yet before the century
00:11:32.020 was out by 1798 he would lose every last acre of it boone was a brilliant pioneer but he was no
00:11:38.900 businessman. The fine print of land titles and deeds was simply beyond him or beneath his
00:11:45.440 interest. He was a man who would always rather be out in the woods instead of bent over paperwork
00:11:50.040 at the county clerk's office. Boone, who had fought in one of the final battles of the
00:11:54.400 Revolutionary War, later tried to volunteer for the War of 1812, only to be turned away on the
00:11:59.540 entirely reasonable grounds that he was 78 years old. But Daniel Boone was not a man who took such
00:12:04.380 hints. Five years later, not long after the death of his wife, at the age of 82, he set out on what
00:12:11.180 proved to be his last great expedition into the wild. He pushed deep into uncharted territory
00:12:17.000 along the Missouri River. The journey stretched on for six months, and it carried with it
00:12:22.120 one final brush with hostile Indians. Boone was forced to lie hidden in the brush for
00:12:27.140 20 days to elude a band of Osage warriors. He made it home alive, sick, spent, exhausted,
00:12:33.620 but hauling with him a heavy load of valuable furs.
00:12:37.540 In 1820, Daniel Boone's remarkable life came at last to its end.
00:12:41.300 He died in Missouri and was buried there beside his wife on the family farm.
00:12:45.820 25 years later, a delegation from Kentucky with the blessing of Boone's family
00:12:49.640 exhumed his grave and carried him to be reburied in Frankfurt.
00:12:54.620 And from that act sprang a mystery that endures to this day.
00:12:58.320 Locals in Missouri have long insisted that the Kentucky delegation dug up the wrong body. 0.53
00:13:03.320 More than a century afterward, a forensic analysis suggested they may have been right, 0.94
00:13:07.740 that the remains reburied in Kentucky might have belonged to a black man,
00:13:11.320 in all likelihood one of the family's slaves.
00:13:13.420 The riddle was never solved, which is why even now you can visit the official grave of Daniel Boone in Missouri
00:13:17.760 and his other official grave in Kentucky.
00:13:19.740 Both states maintain with equal conviction that they hold the final resting place of Daniel Boone.
00:13:25.800 Perhaps a fitting epilogue for a man who, more than anything else in his life,
00:13:29.440 could never quite stay in one place for very long.
00:13:32.600 once upon a time there was a country not just a country but a big one an empire in that empire
00:13:47.300 there was an upper middle class family where two boys were raised by their mother loved books
00:13:53.120 uncle tom's cabin the bible their father admired the country's leaders were patriotic and happy
00:14:00.240 Both sons went to universities where they were radicalized.
00:14:03.900 One of the brothers read a book and convinced him to try to shoot the country's leader.
00:14:07.820 He was hanged.
00:14:09.160 The other brother read the same books, but decided to lead a movement.
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00:14:17.020 Then they took over the unions, and again, no one seemed to care.
00:14:19.800 Then they created their own media organizations and took over the cities.
00:14:23.140 And again, most people just ignored them.
00:14:25.420 Change, after all, was something they could believe in.
00:14:28.520 Until it was too late.
00:14:29.460 Sound familiar? This is the real history of communism, the Russian Revolution. 0.52