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00:13:54.920This woman is a chucklehead, first of all.
00:13:57.560Katanji Brown-Jackson is a chucklehead.
00:13:59.900And she just said, she said this, that they should be able to have special, you know, voting districts because it's, they can't get to the polls because they're disabled by blackness.
00:14:10.060That's basically, that's what she said.
00:14:15.560I mean, like if I, if I, if I, if I just like off the top of my head, it doesn't sound like a thing that's, that's true.
00:14:20.900And also it is, it is just another amusing episode in that Ryan Long comedy special where like it's white supremacists and woke left and they're the same because all the white supremacists will also say that thing.
00:14:32.380But Katanji Brown-Jackson apparently did say that thing.
00:14:40.280I guess I'm thinking of it, of the fact that remedial action, absent discriminatory intent, is really not a new idea in the civil rights laws.
00:14:52.420And, and my kind of paradigmatic example of this is something like the ADA.
00:14:59.480Congress passed the Americans with Disabilities Act against the backdrop of a world that was generally not accessible to people with disabilities.
00:15:09.080And so it was discriminatory in effect because these folks were not able to access these buildings.
00:15:16.480The idea in Section 2 is that we are responding to current day manifestations of past and present decisions that disadvantage minorities and make it so that they don't have equal access to the voting system.
00:15:52.860I mean, just, just for, for those who, you know, care about the law, the, the ADA was, which I think actually is a bad piece of law, but the, but the ADA originally was passed on the basis that, you know, like people in wheelchairs can't go upstairs and therefore they might need a ramp to go up into a building.
00:16:09.820And she's making the case that that's somehow like black people not having their own voting districts because they are, they're somehow historically disadvantaged.
00:16:17.020Well, I think the thing with the ADA is that disabled people are in fact disadvantaged by physical reality.
00:16:24.780That's, that's a bit of a differentiate.
00:16:51.060And, uh, we should, I, it should be getting a lot more attention than it is because this might destroy the Democrats party's ability to get, uh, get a majority in the house of representatives like ever again.
00:17:03.000Um, and, and there's, there's nothing that can really be said because what they, what they're trying to defend is the proposition that in order to avoid racial discrimination, uh, in the way that we, that, that, that district works, you have to deliberately racially discriminate by creating districts that explicitly exclude as many white people as possible.
00:17:26.120Like that, that's the argument they're trying to make and there's nothing intelligent to be said in defense of it.
00:17:31.180And so that might be the best available argument is what I'm trying to say that she came up with.
00:18:11.220All they have to do is take this wall down that was put up 60 years ago and suddenly, you know, Rod Steiger in a sheriff's hat is going to show up again.
00:18:25.120Nobody's stopping black people from voting.
00:18:26.800I mean, they say, these people think that it's a disability that if you say, oh, you need ID, like every country on earth, you need ID to vote.
00:18:56.900They want to be taken care of, something like that.
00:18:58.820I, I, who, who would vote for somebody who talks about you like that?
00:19:02.500It's, it's absolutely despicable, though it is hilarious, which for me is redeeming.
00:19:06.740You know, I'm always willing to laugh at it.
00:19:08.620And I just think I would have been really, really funny if at the end of this, John Roberts had just turned to her and say, madam, you're a chucklehead.
00:19:15.060I mean, that was just, it just made my day.
00:19:17.280Well, black men are actually starting to make that move a little bit.
00:19:20.060And I know, listen, we will get to whether or not young Republicans are allowed to Ketanji post in their group chats, you know, if they're allowed to make these sorts of racist and offensive comments.
00:19:29.980First, though, Ben, could you tell us about ExpressVPN?
00:19:33.560I would love to tell you about ExpressVPN.
00:19:35.500There's nothing more I would love to talk about than ExpressVPN, like literally in the whole wide world.
00:19:40.780Because here's the thing, Michael Moles has not been using his ExpressVPN.
00:19:44.540So the way that I know this is that ExpressVPN is supposed to protect you against hacking.
00:19:49.320It's supposed to protect you against, you know, people getting a hold of your data.
00:19:52.480And I'm not going to say that I hacked Michael Moles' email.
00:19:55.580I will say some material has come into my possession about Michael Moles' search history, such as, and I have to say, it is deeply embarrassing, like truly embarrassing, like more embarrassing than that Politico chat.
00:20:08.520Apparently, he searched his own name 36 times in the last two days.
00:20:14.100He has, believe it or not, Thomas Aquinas fan fiction, which I didn't think was an actual category of fan fiction.
00:20:20.640I don't know who he's shipping there, but it's definitely weird.
00:20:23.120He's been searching nonstop about whether Starbucks is going to start serving pumpkin spice latte yet.
00:20:28.820Like, he will not stop with this crap.
00:20:30.860And worst of all, K-pop Demon Hunter's ukulele covers.
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00:25:22.880That was nice. Does anybody even wanted to sneak up in back of Tim and just take that hat off and see if his brain is just naked under there?
00:25:29.640One of my favorite memories, honestly, like first 10 years of Daily Wire, was Jeremy Boring's 40th birthday party, where I got Ted Cruz to come to Jeremy's 40th birthday party.
00:25:39.480And then Ted proceeded to give like an actual honest-to-God stump speech at Jeremy's birthday party.
00:25:43.920You remember this? Like at a small pizza shop in the Valley. It was pretty spectacular. Good times, good times.
00:25:48.640Well, from that, I feel like, let's say, should we talk about something serious? Matt, talk about something serious.
00:25:53.200This has been far too much friendly small talk so far in this friendly fire. We got a lot of the friendly, but not the fire.
00:26:17.360So, Politico. Let's talk about Politico. This is one of the big stories happening right now.
00:26:23.200And for anyone who's not familiar, Politico published a couple days ago this big hit piece revealing the private group chat conversation of some young Republicans.
00:26:33.780And the young Republicans are not elected officials. They're not anyone that anyone's even heard of for the most part.
00:26:41.440There's one person in the group chat, apparently, who works in the Trump administration, who is not recorded having said anything.
00:26:47.900So he was in it. But as far as we know, he didn't say anything, quote unquote, offensive.
00:26:54.320But there were other comments made in the group chat as Politico reveals that were a lot of edgy jokes and a lot of a lot of a lot of offensive language that's being used in the in this group chat.
00:27:11.400And most of it, as Politico finally admits in the article, if you read all 57 paragraphs of it, they'll finally admit that, yeah, most of this is supposed to be a joke, although they don't, of course, put that in the in the headline.
00:27:24.820And, you know, that the title of the article has the quote, I love Hitler.
00:27:30.520And when you look at the context of that comment in the group in the group chat, it's very obvious that it is a joke.
00:27:38.820It's sarcasm, very much in line with the kind of sarcasm Republicans use all the time about, yeah, I'm real far right.
00:27:44.980I guess I love Hitler, you know, along the lines of me having theocratic fascist in my Twitter bio, which isn't entirely a joke, but it's mostly a joke.
00:27:53.960Right. So this is kind of this this kind of breaks down a few different ways.
00:28:00.460And for me, the story here is not the group chat, because these are private messages between people that no one knows.
00:28:10.240These are not relevant people. And the only reason why the media is showing us is the only reason why they're doing this is obviously it's a political hit.
00:28:19.940And in particular, they're trying to distract from the fact that the left has spent the last month.
00:28:26.280I mean, really much longer than that, but especially the last month, openly celebrating political violence.
00:28:30.940And now we have a attorney general candidates, probably the next attorney general of Virginia, who was was was in his own messages saying not as a joke that he wants his political opponents to die and even their children to die.
00:28:43.900And he was very specific that he was not joking about it. And so the left is looking to distract from that.
00:28:48.920And their way of doing it is by somehow obtaining these these messages and putting them out to distract us.
00:28:56.220And, you know, some Republicans have been very quick to offer their denunciations to say how offended they are, how horrible these messages are, that everybody involved should be fired, that they should never be allowed in politics again.
00:29:12.120I think that that response is foolish.
00:29:16.840I think it gives the left exactly what they want.
00:29:20.240I've I have really appreciated J.D. Vance's response.
00:29:24.300Now, I think I think the vice president has struck exactly the right chord on this because he's not going to play the game.
00:29:31.020And instead, what he's done is he's he has redirected the conversation back to the thing that the left is trying to distract us from.
00:29:38.740There's only there's one reason and one reason only that this story exists.
00:29:43.660And it's to get us to stop talking about Jay Jones and the leftists who've been celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk for the last month.
00:29:49.720That's the only reason that the story exists.
00:29:52.160And so J.D. Vance's point is, no, I'm not going to play that game with you.
00:29:55.260I'm not going to give you what you want.
00:29:57.020Instead, I'm going to redirect the conversation back to the thing that you're trying to distract us from.
00:30:00.380And I think that that's exactly exactly the right move.
00:30:03.980I think there's some disagreement about that, though.
00:30:24.780My only take on this that probably has not been said elsewhere is even the fact that we're talking about the ideology of the far right and comparing the far right to the far left.
00:30:36.200And, you know, whether or not people like Hitler or whatever is actually kind of missing the point.
00:30:40.200I strongly suspect these messages were leaked by another young Republican that has been reported.
00:30:45.980And having spent a lot of time with New York young Republicans, I promise you this whole thing is about some like petty personal grudge.
00:30:52.720And it's some power play within New York politics.
00:30:55.220And it actually has very little to do with the ideology or putative ideology of these texts.
00:31:02.140There is no comparison whatsoever between some 19-year-old kid who's making edgy jokes trying to outbaste his friend in a group chat and a former state legislator would-be top law enforcement official in Virginia saying, as you note, Matt, that he is not joking when he calls for the death of his opponents and even the death of their children.
00:31:22.960Now, the question then becomes, should we ever police our own?
00:31:27.080Should we ever have guardrails or do we say anyone, you know, to the right of Hillary is on our side?
00:31:31.040And I think the answer is obviously, yes, there have to be guardrails.
00:31:34.860Just like a nation is circumscribed by its border, so too a political coalition is circumscribed.
00:31:39.440That's what delineates it as a specific coalition.
00:31:42.140But the question is, how are we going to arrive at those guardrails?
00:31:45.960Are we going to say that anyone who ever, you know, gets caught telling an off-color joke by Politico, they're completely cast into the outer darkness?
00:32:36.660That's, I would assume, Matt included, and Matt, you told me if I'm wrong here, that, you know, there are certain things that can be said that social consequences should actually attend to.
00:32:48.380Certainly, that's true on the left, right?
00:32:49.560If you say that you want to murder the Speaker of the House and then calls the kids fascist, there should be social consequences that actually attend to that.
00:32:56.900I agree with everything you say about the difference between a private group chat between a bunch of young Republican idiots who are outbasing each other and the attorney general candidate in Virginia actually saying the thing running for office.
00:33:10.160Now, I will say I don't think these people are kids.
00:33:13.820I don't like using the sort of language of kids to describe people who really should be married and have children of their own by this point in their life.
00:33:20.480And I think the kind of loose playing with that term, as though if you're a 31-year-old, which is what one of these people was, that somehow this is the equivalent of being 17, I don't think that's true either.
00:33:36.340Again, I'm not even disagreeing with the motivations of the Politico story.
00:33:39.400In fact, even on my show today, I talked about the motivations of the Politico story, which, Matt, I agree, are completely scurrilous and designed to distract from the sort of violent rhetoric we've seen from the left.
00:33:49.120But it has led to, I think, a reactionary response on some parts of the right to say there should be no policing ever at all.
00:33:55.920No social consequences should ever attend to things that are said on the right, that it's basically just pure my side versus your side.
00:34:03.300The problem I have is, number one, I think that's immoral.
00:34:05.500And number two, I don't think that's pragmatic.
00:34:06.640I don't think that's moral because I think that there are things that get said on the right that are really, really, really ugly.
00:34:12.100And pretending those away doesn't make them go away.
00:34:33.360The difference is that I think that if somebody tries to kill Matt, there's a good shot that it's going to be a leftist.
00:34:38.660If somebody tries to kill me, it's a frickin' Agatha Christie novel.
00:34:42.480I just don't know which direction the bullet is coming from at this point given the sort of various and sundry radical extremes that exist.
00:34:49.900I'm not going to say that the right is equivalent to the left in this respect because I don't think it's been mainstreamed to nearly the same effect on the right that it has been on the left.
00:34:56.320But to pretend that it has not infiltrated a lot of very important spaces I think is sort of whistling past the graveyard.
00:35:01.320Now, again, that's not about the Politico story.
00:35:02.840That's more of a broad commentary about where we are in the movement.
00:35:05.860And as a matter of sort of morality, we all have things where, again, I'm not saying cast into the outer darkness.
00:35:13.340I'm not calling for any of these people who I think everyone knows who I'm referring to.
00:35:17.420But I don't think I'm calling for any of these people to be deplatformed or removed from YouTube or removed from Twitter.
00:35:21.240In fact, I've called for many of these people, Nick Fuentes, for example, to actually be returned to Twitter, despite the fact that we have some pretty significant disagreements, including the fact that he thinks that that I and people like me are scurrilous, you know, sons of Satan or whatever, however he would put it.
00:35:36.680You know, but, you know, that is a different thing from is this person part of, quote unquote, the movement that I belong to?
00:35:43.180And the answer there is he doesn't think I'm part of the movement that he belongs to, which he's made very clear.
00:35:47.200And so that gets into the question of there's the morality of when someone says something bad, should you condemn it?
00:35:54.000And I think that as a general matter, you can do a Winsome Sears did, right?
00:35:57.260Winsome Sears is running against the attorney general candidate in Virginia.
00:36:00.360She was asked about the Politico chat.
00:36:02.760Now you do Jay Jones, which seems to me like a pretty good answer and a good way of policing.
00:36:07.560And then when it comes to the pragmatic, can I just find you were in the group chat.
00:36:11.800Yeah, I mean, one more point on the I just want to make one more point here and then you can say whatever you want on the pragmatic side.
00:36:17.200I fundamentally disagree with this idea that the reason that the right, quote unquote, loses is because we fragment while the left is unified.
00:36:23.820The left is losing because it unified around its crazies.
00:36:34.020But that doesn't mean they should have like a decisive voice in the future of the movement.
00:36:38.460Because if you do that, you end up with the trans movement running the Democratic Party and you lose from here to forever.
00:36:42.840It's the Democratic solidarity that's destroying them, not the Democrats as a sort of fragmentary party.
00:36:48.080Hang on, let me go to Drew in just a second.
00:36:50.120I just want to respond to two things there.
00:36:52.180And the first is, and I've heard this argument that, well, the left is losing because they failed to drive out the radical elements of their party.
00:37:01.760I think there's a false premise there, though.
00:37:06.620I think, you know, Mondani, one of the most radical political figures we've ever seen in this country, is about to be the mayor of our largest city.
00:37:13.420Because there are no Republicans or moderates in New York, Matt.
00:37:17.100And it was the trans issue that killed Kamala Harris in the last election because they won't stop doing the trans issue, which is the most extreme element of the party, including, obviously, you know, what happened to Charlie.
00:37:27.140Yeah, and the trans issue was a big problem for her.
00:37:29.980But that's also, that's another thing, too, is that when we talk about the sort of the, quote, unquote, radical elements of the right versus the radical elements of the left, these are not exactly the same thing.
00:37:41.320The radical element of the left denies basic biological reality.
00:37:45.960I mean, you're militating against, you know, these basic realities that we all understand.
00:37:52.720And that's not happening on the right.
00:37:55.000There is no equivalent of that, of someone saying that men can have babies.
00:37:59.400Like, there's just no, there's no exact equivalent of that.
00:38:02.320But the second point on the Politico article itself, okay, obviously, if somebody says something publicly and they've decided to announce it to the world, well, then that's fair game for anyone to disagree and anyone to say anything they want about it.
00:38:15.640But with that in particular, I think that in almost every case, if you are speaking in private, you're having a private conversation and then somebody with obviously sinister intentions comes along and takes that private conversation and makes it public.
00:38:32.720In almost every case, my position is, and this has always been my position, I don't care.
00:39:02.980One exception is if you're running for political office and you want to be the top law enforcement official in a state and you've said privately that you think that, you know, half of your state should die.
00:39:15.620And I think probably in general, if you're running for political office, that's an exception.
00:39:19.320There are things that become fair game that otherwise wouldn't be.
00:39:22.220But outside of those exceptions, I just fundamentally disagree with the idea that we should give these people anything that they want or that we need to start now condemning things that were said in private, in conversations that had nothing to do with us.
00:39:53.400First, I agree with everything that Matt is saying in its context, in the context that we're talking about.
00:39:58.380I don't see why I should care about these people on a private chat.
00:40:01.580I don't think private chats should be revealed.
00:40:03.500And when the New York Times is spewing out perversion and racism at a level that is far, far beyond anything these people are saying and incitements to violence,
00:40:14.080I don't see why a private chat compares to the New York Times and the crap that they turn out every day.
00:40:19.220I also agree with Ben that nobody should be censored.
00:40:21.940I don't want to censor absolutely anybody.
00:41:30.900I know you said you're not supporting censorship.
00:41:34.520But if we're talking about sort of driving somebody out of the movement, alienating them, saying, you know, disowning them, that sort of thing, I absolutely, totally, very much disagree with that.
00:41:47.300Well, Matt, you might disagree on that on Tucker.
00:41:55.520Let's take Tucker off the table there for a second because, obviously, Tucker is a very fraught topic for a lot of people, myself included.
00:42:01.060But I think that, you know, I guess the question for Matt is there are certain people who you would basically say don't belong in the movement.
00:42:07.580And so the question, I think, for everybody, and I think this is one that we should openly discuss, I mean, if we're going to have these discussions, is who doesn't?
00:42:14.940Well, I'll give you a takeaway on this that is obviously timely.
00:42:19.820When Charlie was killed, you know, the guy did like 10 jobs.
00:42:23.780I mean, it takes innumerable people to fill all the things he did.
00:42:27.060The most valuable thing he did from a political coalition standpoint is he kept the coalition together, and his events were the events to go to, and his platform was really setting the agenda for the Republican Party.
00:42:40.100And Charlie made a really important point to have a coalition in which he would not be pressured to get rid of Tucker, but he also wouldn't be pressured to get rid of people who hated Tucker or who Tucker hated or whoever, you know, where the various constituencies hated them.
00:42:53.800But Charlie, furthermore, to your point, Ben, also drew a line.
00:42:57.620There were plenty of people that were not permitted into TPUSA events.
00:43:01.040And so he did this in, I think, an obviously very effective way, a way that did not fall into the perils of, you know, a movement becoming too extreme.
00:43:10.160And I just wonder if there's not a lesson that we could take from that.
00:43:13.140I mean, I think a good, here's a good rule of thumb about Charlie, by the way.
00:43:16.740How about this? How about you probably don't belong in a leadership position, shall we say, in the conservative movement if you won't just buy into the basic factual idea that Charlie Kirk was murdered by a gay man who was a trans furry lover?
00:43:32.780If you spend your days fulminating about all the other things with regard to Charlie and speculate that he was murdered by other forces, that seems to me not connected with reality.
00:43:42.620I mean, that's something that Erica has said, that's something TPUSA has said.
00:43:46.480Like, that seems like a pretty good, easy rule of thumb, that if you're spending all your days doing that, if you even tangentially are doing that, it seems, if you're trying to divide them.
00:43:55.480Matt, I thought that what you said when Charlie died was right.
00:43:58.300You know, that one of Charlie's goals was to keep the movement together.
00:44:00.780It's obviously something JD is trying to do.
00:44:02.320He's trying to keep people in the room together.
00:44:04.380I've talked publicly about the fact that Tucker called me that day, two days after Charlie was shot and said, like, let's stop, let's stop fighting.
00:44:10.840And I said, you know what, that sounds great to me.
00:44:21.980But the bottom line here is that, you know, when it comes to where you set limits, limits at some point are going to have to be set.
00:44:29.040And it seems to me that the move on the right is that because we don't like the left at all, because the left is bad, there must be no limit set.
00:44:35.480And any attempt to set a limit is somehow firing inside the tent.
00:44:38.560And what this actually leads to is many of the same people who are firing inside the tent, then turning around and claiming that you're violating the truce.
00:44:44.980Because I'll tell you what, it's Nick Fuentes who's attacking Donald Trump on a regular basis.
00:44:49.720It is Alex Jones who's attacking Donald Trump on a regular basis.
00:44:52.780I mean, it is Tucker Carlson who's attacking Donald Trump on a fairly regular basis, actually.
00:44:56.880And I think that the friendly fire should stop across the board.
00:45:35.560And I also think that, you know, it's like we're not even in a position to decide, well, who should be a leader, who should have a platform, who should be, you know, who should be getting attention in this movement.
00:45:44.060It's like, that's not up to us to decide anyway.
00:45:46.860Well, let me just say, after Charlie died, a couple of days after Charlie died, I put out a tweet where I said that I want to call a truce.
00:46:37.820And so I think that for right now, maybe we'll get back to the arguments.
00:46:41.640Maybe we'll get back to the infighting.
00:46:43.080We'll get back to that in the future, I'm sure.
00:46:44.940But for right now, I think we need to be unified against this threat, especially now, especially with the midterms coming up and the presidential election right after that.
00:46:52.720The left, if they get back into control, they're going to be out for blood even more than they ever have been.
00:46:57.020And so we need to be united against that together.
00:47:43.300But surely there is some kind of human decency level that you can cross where, no, you're not on my side.
00:47:49.880I mean, I don't understand why if you support the, you know, the cat's paw of Iran where they sit around and chant death to America, what makes you a conservative?
00:47:58.880What makes you a conservative that you say tough sounding things?
00:48:02.920I mean, that you're talking to, you know, in a loud voice about, you know, the problems of the country.
00:48:07.760What makes you a conservative if you are in favor of a regime that, you know, used to have until Trump took it away, the capacity to actually hurt us?
00:48:16.320You know, I don't understand the anti-Americanism.
00:48:21.420You're not a conservative if you are not interested in conserving and preserving and defending Western civilization.
00:48:28.380And I guess the one point I'll give in, you know, in your favor, Drew and Ben, is that I do think that there are some people who claim to be conservatives who actually are not interested in conserving Western civilization at all.
00:48:42.140And so if you don't want to conserve that, then, like, we're just not, we actually are fundamentally, because that's the thing I'm saying we need to unite to defend is Western civilization.
00:48:50.560But when you say Western civilization, that has to mean something, right?
00:48:54.040So, for example, in, you know, recently I've been talking about the Islamic takeover of Dearborn, and I've had people who I guess claim to be conservatives who are trying to tell me that actually this is a very good thing, that our country becomes Islamic.
00:49:07.360And it's like, okay, we're clearly not on the same side.
00:49:11.640You're trying to conserve Islamism, and that is not what I'm trying to conserve.
00:49:15.860So, obviously, you get to a point where those, where it's like, yeah, like, lines are drawn.
00:49:21.980And I think the line is that conserving and defending Western civilization, and anyone who's on board with that and wants to do that, I think we should work together.
00:49:32.840But if someone says, I'm not interested, I don't want your olive branch, screw you, which I have gotten that response from a lot of people, well, then that's your choice, and we've got to go somewhere.
00:49:43.500I just don't want us to make the decision, I don't want to make the decision on who's defending Western civilization according to popularity.
00:49:49.840I don't think that's the right way to do this.
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00:56:01.320People are talking about it on Twitter, but they're saying that it means that the whole LGBT identity is collapsing.
00:56:07.180That's not really clear from this study out of University of Buckingham.
00:56:11.480What is very clear is that non-binary identity, genderqueer identity, has collapsed.
00:56:17.820It peaked in the woke year of 2023, and it's just collapsed since then.
00:56:22.620There is some indication, at least from the abstract of the study, that trans identity is also following that.
00:56:29.100The L and the G seem to be actually pretty solid, but the rest of it is collapsing.
00:56:34.480This does not really surprise me at all.
00:56:36.900The reason is that the gods of the copybook headings just reassert themselves.
00:56:40.260This is the central conservative consolation, is that reality will win on a long enough timescale.
00:56:45.240I'm not even surprised that the non-binary part is leading the charge here, because the non-binary part is the most abstract version of the LGBT identity.
00:56:54.160It's just this complete androgynous illusion, whereas the L and the G and the B and the T and all that is a little more visceral,
00:57:02.440and it pertains more to sexual desire and all the rest.
00:57:04.760So that's kind of harder to extirpate.
00:57:06.080But in terms of the extreme version of these ideologies, it would seem as though they are on the precipice of being eradicated from public life entirely.
00:57:16.420To help us understand this, we bring on our Gen Z correspondent and a new member of the Daily Wire family, Isabel Brown.
00:57:39.420And if so, where are we going to get our interior designer?
00:57:41.620I'll tell you people, I have been trying to warn the world that Gen Z, the kids were all right for a very long time.
00:57:48.060Literally a year ago, a little over a year and a half ago, I should say, was laughed off set at every TV network, every radio station, every podcast,
00:57:56.060when I presented my book that it was Gen Z that was going to save America, that no one wanted to be a lame gay chick like Disney wanted us to be in South Park so beautifully predicted.
00:58:07.820The numbers, of course, needed some time to catch up, but I think the kids are going to be all right.
00:58:12.520And none of this information out of this new study shocks me.
00:58:15.180The idea of the cultural fad of the transgender cult, which is really what we've been seeing for a long time, has already been disillusioned thanks to people boldly speaking the truth.
00:58:25.740I know you guys were mentioning Charlie just a few minutes ago when I spoke on campus at the first prayer vigil at the campus that he was scheduled to speak at next, my alma mater at Colorado State.
00:58:35.220There was a young woman who came up to me, and I just think this is so indicative of the Gen Z story right now.
00:58:40.840She said, I have to tell you something. And when she started speaking to me, I was a little wondering where she was falling on the political spectrum.
00:58:47.020She gave extreme leftist vibes, but she pulled me aside and she said, I have to tell you something.
00:58:52.100Charlie Kirk saved my life from gender ideology. I thought that I was non-binary.
00:58:56.580I thought that I needed to castrate myself and take all of these puberty blockers and hormone affirming drugs.
00:59:01.920I thought I was going to end my life at one point because of all of these lies, and only one person ever had the courage to tell me the truth that I am a woman and I was created on purpose to be a woman, and that was Charlie Kirk.
00:59:12.920He wasn't mean about it. He was kind about it, but he let me have self-respect and ability to look in the mirror and love what I was seeing for the first time in my entire life.
00:59:21.800And I think of all of the work that you guys have done for the past 10 years with The Daily Wire, the efforts of people like Charlie Kirk, because people were good enough to tell the truth to the next generation when everyone else was lying to them.
00:59:33.040We are not gay anymore. That's the good news.
00:59:36.880That sounds almost too hopeful. I want to turn to Matt because, Matt, you must be torn on this.
00:59:41.740On the one hand, you've helped lead the charge against the Lavender Mafia, so I think you'll be inclined to claim a victory here.
00:59:49.000On the other hand, you're profoundly doer and pessimistic and won't want to admit that things are getting better, and maybe they're not getting better.
00:59:56.140So what is it? Are we not gay no more?
00:59:59.240So my ego is battling my pessimism is what you're saying.
01:00:05.780I think that you're right that the study that you're talking about, it's a little bit, it's not quite as clear-cut, I think, as people want it to be,
01:00:16.040because it is focused on this non-binary thing.
01:00:19.400And I don't know that we can say that Gen Z isn't gay anymore.
01:00:23.780I don't know that we have the evidence that it's becoming less gay.
01:00:26.480I think all the evidence in fact is the other way, that Gen Z is a lot more gay than any other generation.
01:00:30.420But I do think, based on this study and other studies and other data and just anecdotal observations from a lot of us, that the trans and non-binary thing, I think, is declining.
01:00:47.740And the reason why is because nobody ever really believed it to begin with.
01:00:53.720The only way, I mean, transgenderism as a concept, as we all know, has been around for a long time, has been around for many decades.
01:00:59.860It didn't explode onto the scene in this kind of mainstream way until about 10 years ago, 2015, 2016.
01:01:06.620And the way that it was able to proliferate from there and seemingly take over an entire generation is by all the people who knew better not saying anything,
01:01:17.080either because they wanted to be polite or because they were afraid of the backlash or because they thought ideologically that they had to be OK with this or some combination of the three.
01:01:26.800And so that it wasn't that people had all these people had fallen into this trance.
01:01:31.020It's that most people knew it was crazy and went along with it for those reasons.
01:03:20.340They're told that they stink if they tell the truth.
01:03:22.700They're told they're mean if they, you know, don't lie about where the virus comes from, how the virus is cured, what is working, what's not working.
01:03:31.260And the thing about transgenderism is it is a mental illness.
01:03:35.100Being homosexual is not necessarily a mental illness.
01:03:37.620If you define a mental illness as believing things that simply are not the case, then believing that you're a woman when you're a man is a mental illness by definition.
01:03:47.200But if you're a man attracted to men, then that's who you actually are.
01:03:51.140So it may be a problem, but it's not a mental illness.
01:03:53.680And so I think that the mental illness wave that was caused by the pandemic is receding.
01:04:00.560I think the way the mental illness wave expressed itself was because of what Matt was talking about, this induced mental illness of believing what the left is saying and their incredible domination, which we finally broke, of the means of communication.
01:04:13.900So if you own the academies, if you own the news media, if you own Hollywood, then it feels like everybody is telling you that you must be the wrong sex.
01:05:01.180It's late at night where I am, and I've had it.
01:05:03.820We're way too deep into the show for this much optimism.
01:05:06.140So let me explain for the pessimists in the crowd why all this is happening.
01:05:10.880The reason that this is happening is actually a good reason, but that is that trans was the ultimate victimhood status.
01:05:16.060And people are constantly seeking the ultimate victimhood status because it allows you to get away with literally anything, including forcing 99.99% of the rest of humanity to redefine reality in coordination with your ideas of yourself, which is like the greatest thing in the world from a particular perspective.
01:05:32.500It's actually quite bad for you, but from the perspective of getting one up on literally all of the rest of humanity, if you earn that incredible victimhood status that applied to trans people for like three or four years or 10 years in the United States, that's like a great place to be.
01:05:45.840And then the victimhood status went away because of things like what Matt did and what we did, obviously, here at Daily Wire over the course of the last 10 years.
01:05:52.280Insanity reasserted itself, and you're no longer considered an inherent victim because you're a man who claims to be a woman or the opposite.
01:05:58.580In fact, in some cases, you may, in fact, be an aggressor, as we have seen repeatedly from time to time.
01:06:04.560I think that non-binary is sort of the same thing.
01:06:17.340Bisexuality is usually just either straight people pretending to be gay or gay people pretending to be straight.
01:06:22.860The sort of bisexuality thing is likely to go.
01:06:25.420In fact, that's what the stats show is a huge number of people who identify as bisexual actually are just heterosexual.
01:06:30.760Like they've only had partners who are heterosexual paired in the last year or two years or five years but call themselves bisexual because it's based on your level of self-identification.
01:06:41.980The reason I'm pessimistic about Gen Z, aside from the statistics, is the fact that Gen Z, if they lose the victimhood status in terms of sexual relations, which is really what's happened, is that we were in a period where the next victimhood class was not race.
01:06:57.220And that has gone away because, frankly, it got boring and no one cared and there's nothing more to transgress.
01:07:02.960Everything had been transgressed up to and including whether men and women exist.
01:07:06.240And so what's the next victimhood status?
01:07:07.820I think the next place that the young people will go for their victimhood status is economic victimhood.
01:07:12.360So I'm optimistic that young people are going to move away from some of the crazier I'm sexually identifying as a cat routine.
01:07:21.640But I think they are going to increasingly identify as somehow economically dispossessed and then call for massive government interventionism, which is mostly what the Mamdani moment is about.
01:07:30.540So and that, by the way, is what you're seeing in the polls for young people.
01:07:33.920Young people are increasingly hot on socialism and communism.
01:07:36.640They're increasingly hot on massive government interventionism.
01:07:39.440They don't really like capitalism very much.
01:07:41.320And so I think that the next sort of victimhood status is going to go back to classic Marxist victimhood status, which is if you are poor or if you just can't get an affordable apartment in New York, it must be because the victim, the system is somehow screwing you.
01:08:23.780Also, by the way, and then some, and then a lot of some, actually.
01:08:27.800Also, by the way, Ben, you were saying people are all going to be broke under communism, whatever, you know, and they're going to have this economic class warfare.
01:08:34.240Well, even if you're completely destitute, I've got such a great deal for you to also keep up your health, and that is balance of nature.
01:08:42.120Drew, I know you're looking bad, and so I decided I brought these here, and I wanted to give these to you.
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01:09:26.160If I had known, if I had prepared for the show for even five seconds, I would have taken off this easy-to-pull-off strip, which I can pull off, and I would be able to open this up and show them to you, but I can.
01:09:37.840I can only show you the pictures of fruits and veggies on them, and they're absolutely terrific, and they make you feel terrific.
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01:10:54.560Well, after all of that pessimism about Gen Z, I'm going to give you a place where optimism blooms, the Middle East.
01:11:03.000But actually, I actually am quite optimistic about the Middle East, believe it or not, right now.
01:11:07.120And that's because we have a president named Donald J. Trump.
01:11:10.340And I've said since term one that the most successful element of Donald Trump's presidency has been his handling of the Middle East.
01:11:16.500If you can actually make deals happen in the Middle East, that's an extraordinary thing.
01:11:19.460And Donald Trump has been the only person in my lifetime who truly has made deals happen in the Middle East.
01:11:25.220So I was actually in the Israeli parliament, in the Knesset, at the invitation of the Embassy of the United States, Mike Huckabee, for the speech that President Trump gave.
01:11:38.040So first of all, I think you have to understand that the situation on the ground in Israel, the number of just the overwhelming population, their desire, their need for these 20 live hostages were held in terror tunnels for two years to come home was extraordinary.
01:11:52.980I mean, just it bled out on the streets.
01:11:54.680If you walk around the streets of any city in Israel and much of the country, you will see pictures of the hostages.
01:12:00.560And so the fact that they actually came home on a split screen, President Trump is talking in the Knesset while these people are coming home to their families at the same exact time.
01:12:08.200And the president was able to somehow get the entire world on board with a demand that Hamas give up these live hostages and that Israel not have to give up its security position in the Gaza Strip.
01:12:18.740Israel retains control over some 53 percent of the Gaza Strip and still has some security oversight of enormous amount of the rest of the Gaza Strip.
01:12:26.060By the way, all the same people who are very, very upset about, quote unquote, genocide in the Gaza Strip seem to care not one whit that since Israel has pulled back a little bit, Hamas is legitimately just pulling people out of their homes and shooting them dead in the middle of the street by the hundreds, apparently, in the Gaza Strip.
01:12:38.840But Trump's speech was just spectacular.
01:12:41.700And the amount of enjoyment in the room, I mean, Trump was going long.
01:12:52.200And, you know, we're all used to hearing President Trump do this routine because he's done it for years and years in the United States.
01:12:57.660But but the fact that he was able to, you know, come to the Middle East, bring people together who legitimately, you know, all these countries don't believe in Israel's existence.
01:13:05.860Technically, that he was able to actually bring all those people together and get live hostages out is an extraordinary accomplishment.
01:13:12.440It can only happen because Donald Trump's real estate skills from New York somehow map exactly and directly onto the Middle East in a very bizarre way.
01:13:21.040He just got rid of all the State Department conventional wisdom.
01:13:29.480I have two just two things I want to say.
01:13:31.720When I was I was watching the whole thing on TV and, you know, obviously great joy over the release of the hostages.
01:13:37.700But when I saw Donald Trump in Egypt and the leaders of the Middle East are arrayed behind him, the leaders of Europe arrayed behind him, all I could think was, holy crap, the guy has actually made America great again.
01:13:50.080It has been since Reagan that we have seen America take that kind of aggressive leadership, which also is a statement of manly governance, which I love.
01:13:59.520And finally, his statement is the open talk about God.
01:14:03.920I remember when we started The Daily Wire, you and I used to argue about whether we could use God as a as a reason when we put forward our ideas.
01:14:12.240And I kept saying we have that is the reason we believe the things we believe in.
01:14:16.340And without God, everything the left says makes sense.
01:14:19.260And I am so thrilled to see God back in the public square because I think he is he is the reason we say the things we say.
01:14:25.640And the only other thing I want to say about this is how how tough is Bibi Netanyahu that Donald Trump is the good cop?
01:14:59.520We want peace in the region for the purposes of justice.
01:15:01.640But it is an American concerned about American politics.
01:15:05.020I don't want Israel to be an issue that creates problems for us.
01:15:09.600And there have been plenty of people on the left, I guess, and also on the right who have tried to make Israel this issue that threatens the right wing coalition.
01:15:16.900And so the thing I really love about Trump getting this piece is, one, he was negotiating past the sale the whole time.
01:15:24.300He was saying, you know, hey, guys, I really hope we get a piece because otherwise I'm going to ship all the Palestinians out and I'm going to build a casino in Gaza or something.
01:15:41.740But even more than that, I just think there are people who have all sorts of views on Israel, Palestine, whether or not America should be involved in the Middle East or to what degree we should be involved.
01:15:50.420And to me, the big win for conservatives and Republicans here is not for exactly one niche view over another to win out, but for this issue to reduce in importance.
01:16:01.460And that was obviously always going to happen after the war ended, after some kind of peace was achieved, if peace could be achieved, so that we could focus on the issues that are of greater importance to Americans and that are bigger winners for the Republican Party.
01:16:15.580You know, if the Democrats were able to do this on trans, for instance, you know, where some of the Democrats realize that trans is nuts, but some of the Democrats are just totally bought in on it.
01:16:24.620There's really no way for them to win that with their base and the general public.
01:16:27.640So the only way they win is for that issue to just kind of drop down a little bit in importance.
01:16:32.140And I think that's what's probably going to happen here.
01:16:34.580And now we can focus on the things that people really, really care about.
01:16:38.460You know, the economy, immigration, all the rest.
01:16:40.440And even in terms of foreign policy, I don't know, I guess we're zapping boats in Venezuela now.
01:16:44.420To me, it's a big win, not only for global justice, but just domestically, politically.
01:16:49.260Trump just keeps throwing W's on board.
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