The Matt Walsh Show - August 07, 2026


I Am Uncancelling the Daily Cancellation


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00:00:57.800 Long-time fans of this show will remember the daily cancellation segment, which was unceremoniously disbanded some months ago.
00:01:05.320 We've always intended to bring the segment back as a weekly installment, where once a week we cancel whichever person, place, or thing most richly deserves it, according to me.
00:01:15.540 And it's taken us a few months to launch the new segment because we've been deliberating over what to call it.
00:01:20.420 And finally, after many weeks of heated debate and many sleepless nights and fervent prayers, a moment of inspiration at last came to me.
00:01:28.380 We should call the Weekly Cancellation the Weekly Cancellation.
00:01:37.560 I proposed this name to my producers.
00:01:39.880 They wept with joy and hailed my genius, which they're contractually obligated to do in response to any of my suggestions as a condition of their employment.
00:01:47.380 But anyway, our inaugural weekly cancellation must go to Arizona State University.
00:01:54.340 Now, ASU earns this prestigious honor after announcing that it will be the first major university to offer a degree in being an influencer.
00:02:03.380 As Yahoo Finance reports, the university has introduced a new Bachelor of Arts in content creation through its Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication,
00:02:13.040 giving students the opportunity to earn a four-year degree focused on becoming professional
00:02:17.420 content creators, digital storytellers, and influencers. Now, there's no word on who will
00:02:22.840 be teaching this course. Perhaps we can expect to see Professor Clavicular, Professor Sneko.
00:02:28.480 It's been clear for years that most universities don't have a policy prohibiting the mentally
00:02:32.200 handicapped from getting jobs on the faculty, so Sneko shouldn't run into any problems.
00:02:36.820 There are also obviously no policies against Muslim communists, but I repeat myself. 0.64
00:02:40.860 And all these mentions of Snego raise the obvious question, which is, who the hell is that? 0.84
00:02:45.160 And the answer is that it doesn't matter. 1.00
00:02:47.080 Swap in any random influencer with the IQ of Parmesan cheese, and you get the point that this is a very stupid idea. 0.99
00:02:54.260 But ASU is not alone. 0.97
00:02:55.320 CNN reports that Syracuse University is launching its own interdisciplinary minor designed to prepare students for careers in content creation,
00:03:03.100 digital entrepreneurship, and the broader ecosystem supporting creators and online businesses.
00:03:09.080 But ASU was apparently the first school to offer students the opportunity to major in influencerdom.
00:03:15.180 Various articles on the subject insist that this new degree path makes sense because half of Gen Z aspires to be influencers.
00:03:23.360 The influencer economy, which is a phrase that I sadly did not make up, is growing rapidly, we're told.
00:03:29.340 The Yahoo Finance report informs us that annual influencer marketing budgets have grown 171% since last year.
00:03:38.140 the average influencer today earns apparently more than $90,000 a year, roughly on par with
00:03:44.340 the average salary of a registered nurse. And as COVID showed us, the average nurse wants to 0.88
00:03:50.440 be an influencer too, but you don't need a bachelor's degree to be a nurse. So if any
00:03:55.580 nurse wants to make the career jump to becoming a full-time influencer, they'll need to go back 1.00
00:04:00.540 to school for a few more years. At least that's how it'll work if ASU has its way. 1.00
00:04:05.760 More from the Yahoo article.
00:04:08.020 Quote, according to ASU, students will learn content strategy, personal branding, audience analytics,
00:04:13.140 multimedia production, podcasting, social media marketing, and videography
00:04:17.700 while building their own online presence.
00:04:20.920 They'll learn how to analyze performance across multiple platforms,
00:04:24.240 test different content strategies, and improve results using audience data.
00:04:29.480 One of the program's most attention-grabbing offerings is a course called How to Become an Influencer.
00:04:34.060 Students can also choose classes in podcasting, on-camera presence, social media foundations,
00:04:40.180 photography, videography, editing, vocal delivery, and interpersonal influence.
00:04:46.040 Well, you know, it's very good that they'll be offering classes in podcasting.
00:04:49.500 Take it from me.
00:04:50.380 You know, podcasting is serious business.
00:04:53.020 You can't embark on a podcasting career without years of training and preparation.
00:04:58.620 Now, I've been in this business so long that they didn't have podcasting classes when I
00:05:02.660 started out.
00:05:03.780 I had to learn the old-fashioned way, which of course meant that as a fledgling podcaster,
00:05:08.060 according to the customs of the day, I was sent into the wilderness where I wandered for 40 days
00:05:14.120 and 40 nights. Finally, I came to a tall mountain and I ascended it. And at the top, I found the
00:05:20.300 great podcasting guru who imparted to me the timeless podcasting wisdom of our forebears.
00:05:26.700 He spoke to me of the ancients, you know, the great podcasters of legend, Joe Rogan, Adam Carolla,
00:05:31.600 Tom Green. And then I was given a hallucinogenic substance and I went on a vision quest and my
00:05:38.280 brain was permanently damaged and I became slightly psychotic, which as you've noticed
00:05:42.240 is a prerequisite for podcasting. And I did all this and I never even got a degree out of the
00:05:46.940 bargain. So times are certainly changing. Now, what does this degree program entail?
00:05:52.300 Will they just be reading books written by podcasters? Now, it must involve more than
00:05:57.980 that, especially because most podcasters haven't written a book. In fact, most podcasters have
00:06:02.900 never read a book. And it turns out that there is more than just reading books, there's a hands-on
00:06:07.940 element to this program. Quote, the curriculum culminates in a capstone project where students
00:06:13.440 are expected to grow a real audience. So instead of simply submitting a paper, students select a
00:06:19.520 platform such as TikTok or YouTube, develop a content strategy, publish original work throughout
00:06:26.100 the semester and demonstrate measurable audience growth. By graduation, students are expected to
00:06:30.760 have an established platform with followers and engagement metrics that they can show potential
00:06:35.240 employers or sponsors. Yes, grow a real audience. How quaint. How adorable. Most of the top
00:06:42.880 influencers and podcasters don't have real audiences. If ASU wanted to actually help
00:06:47.320 students pursue a successful, modern career in influencing, they'd teach them how to harness
00:06:52.720 armies of bots, which is how it's actually done. Now, as one of the few podcasters who's never
00:06:58.860 used bots, I'd actually be interested in getting that information just for educational purposes.
00:07:04.000 I'm not sure how one contacts the bot farms and works out an arrangement with them. Is there an
00:07:09.000 email address I should contact? No one's ever explained that to me. I don't know. I am aware
00:07:14.220 that there's nothing new about universities offering frivolous degrees. I mean, you can go
00:07:19.800 to major college campuses across the country right now.
00:07:22.260 You can get degrees in like puppetry or pop culture
00:07:25.500 or scuba diving or auctioneering or baking
00:07:28.300 or costume design or bagpiping. 0.97
00:07:31.780 You can get even more useless and fake degrees 0.93
00:07:34.080 like women's studies or psychology. 0.98
00:07:36.820 But a degree of becoming an influencer
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00:09:02.360 the clearest evidence you could ask for if you somehow needed more evidence that the university
00:09:06.060 system is a giant scam. Out-of-state tuition at ASU runs up to $40,000 a year. Now, if I were
00:09:13.640 offering a $40,000 a year course in podcasting, I would be shut down by the FBI and arrested as a
00:09:20.700 scam artist, and rightfully so. And yet my course in podcasting, while no doubt worthless, would
00:09:26.120 still be more credible and more worthwhile than whatever classes ASU might offer on the subject,
00:09:31.840 because I at least have a successful podcast.
00:09:35.080 I mean, I don't know who's going to teach the class at Arizona State,
00:09:37.320 but I can be fairly certain that it's not going to be someone
00:09:40.260 who's actually done the thing at a high level.
00:09:43.280 And this, of course, is a much larger problem in academia
00:09:46.080 that many people have remarked on over the years
00:09:48.320 related to subjects that are far more important than podcasting.
00:09:51.800 As the saying goes, those who can do, those who can't teach.
00:09:55.980 Somebody might add that those who can't do or teach podcast,
00:09:59.280 but that would be a really hurtful thing to say 1.00
00:10:02.040 and also obviously true.
00:10:04.260 ASU, in any case, isn't worried about providing
00:10:06.400 a useful education and being an influencer or a podcaster
00:10:08.900 if there could even be such a thing
00:10:10.360 as a useful education in that topic,
00:10:12.080 which there most certainly cannot.
00:10:14.140 The university system, to include ASU,
00:10:16.920 is obviously a business.
00:10:18.940 So they're as worried about the effectiveness
00:10:20.760 of your education as Apple is concerned
00:10:23.660 about the longevity of your iPhone.
00:10:26.420 The incentives actually run the other way.
00:10:28.180 Apple wants you to buy a new phone every few years, so they don't want the phone to last for a decade.
00:10:34.160 And the university system wants you to come back for more education.
00:10:39.120 You know, if you couldn't get the job you wanted with just that bachelor's degree, come back for a master's.
00:10:43.700 Come back for a doctorate.
00:10:45.360 Maybe come back for a second bachelor's or a third, which is exactly what millions of people do.
00:10:49.800 And that's why 50% of all federal student loan debt is held by graduate students.
00:10:54.500 The university system wants you to keep crawling back on hands and knees for an education that is worth less and less with each passing year.
00:11:02.560 It is just a matter of statistical reality now to say that college degrees have never cost more or been worth less.
00:11:11.760 Tuition rates have gone up on average by 100% over the past couple of decades.
00:11:17.200 Meanwhile, record numbers of young college graduates are unemployed or underemployed.
00:11:21.460 35% of college graduates of all age groups are working jobs that don't require any bachelor's
00:11:28.220 degree. And for recent college graduates, that number is closer to half. Now, you might hope
00:11:33.420 that fortunes will change for those recent college grads. But according to one prominent study, 73%
00:11:38.600 of college grads who start out underemployed will remain underemployed a decade after graduating.
00:11:44.740 And those numbers are also trending in the wrong direction. Now, could any other business
00:11:48.660 get away with selling a product that has plummeted in effectiveness while skyrocketing
00:11:54.720 in price at the exact same time? Well, you might argue that certain businesses have gotten away
00:11:59.400 with exactly that, such as basically all businesses. And you'd probably be right,
00:12:04.400 but none of those businesses, aside from maybe gambling sites, are making their money
00:12:08.140 by plunging 18-year-olds into a lifetime of six-figure debt. I mean, this is a Bernie
00:12:13.580 Madoff-level scam being run by almost every university in the country to the tune of trillions
00:12:19.940 of dollars. So it's actually a Bernie Madoff-level scam times about a million, give or take. Now,
00:12:25.200 some will say that a college education isn't just about getting a job. It's also something that has
00:12:30.600 value for its own sake, right? But, you know, that excuse doesn't work because the education itself,
00:12:36.320 when judged just as an education and not as a career strategy, is still garbage. A recent survey 0.97
00:12:42.580 they found that a large preponderance of college students failed to answer basic questions about
00:12:47.640 U.S. history and civics, such as identifying the length of terms for U.S. senators, naming the
00:12:53.900 father of the U.S. Constitution, explaining what the 13th Amendment accomplished. A larger
00:12:58.720 preponderance probably can't tell you what the word preponderance means. I mean, college students
00:13:02.280 and college graduates now possess a level of ignorance that should be unacceptable for third
00:13:08.300 graders, much less grown adults, who've been in formal schooling for a decade and a half.
00:13:14.020 The average four-year education in America, when you factor in living expenses on top of tuition,
00:13:19.540 now costs just north of $160,000 in total. So if the value of an education is going to primarily
00:13:26.800 be the education itself, if the idea is general enlightenment and knowledge, it cannot cost the
00:13:34.260 equivalent of three years of the average American salary without even factoring an interest on the
00:13:39.740 loan. That is far too high a premium to put on education for its own sake, especially when the
00:13:44.860 education is so shoddy, and even more especially when every book ever written and all of the
00:13:49.740 accumulated knowledge of mankind is available to anyone who wants it anytime. But the most
00:13:54.940 important point here isn't that the university system is a godforsaken scam. That does need to
00:13:59.740 be said, but if you've followed my work for a while, you know that I've already said that many
00:14:04.060 times over for good reason. In terms of villains in the Matt Wall Show universe, colleges rank just
00:14:10.020 below trans activists and Christopher Nolan. So that ground is well trodden. We've been over it.
00:14:17.280 The most important point for our purposes today is that college degree or not, being an influencer
00:14:23.380 is not a profession that anybody should actively pursue. So the fact that half of Gen Z aspires
00:14:29.540 to be influencers is perhaps the most deeply depressing fact about a generation that is 0.83
00:14:34.620 constantly providing us with new reasons to be deeply depressed. And I realize, I realize that
00:14:40.240 some will see this as ironic considering the source. I might be accused of being an influencer
00:14:45.940 myself. Now, I believe I'm innocent of that charge. If we arrive at a day when influencers are being
00:14:52.580 hunted down, arrested, put on trial, executed, and I'm not saying I want that to happen.
00:14:58.020 I'm also not saying that I don't want that to happen
00:15:00.860 Then I'm confident that my innocence will be easily established in a court of law
00:15:05.040 I can be exonerated simply based on the fact that I have a well-established long-running disdain for selfies
00:15:10.400 Which are the number one tool of the influencer trade
00:15:13.180 I've never even taken a selfie in my entire life. Not once
00:15:16.640 Aside from pictures I snap with the fish that I catch, but
00:15:19.860 That doesn't count as a selfie at worst. They're like selfies in name, but not in spirit
00:15:24.160 And aside from that i'm much too cynical and ill-tempered to be an influencer
00:15:27.760 Okay, influencers as a species are bubbly, enthusiastic, excitable, retarded, and I am 0.90
00:15:34.900 none of those things, or most only one of them. So I don't fit the psychological profile, 0.89
00:15:39.200 and I should be acquitted on all charges, I think. But whether you indict me as an influencer or not,
00:15:44.140 the point remains, this is not a career path. Now, there's nothing wrong with wanting to have
00:15:49.600 influence, but influence should be a byproduct of excellence. It should be the sort of gravitational
00:15:56.840 pull that naturally comes from doing something substantial and doing it well. And the irony is
00:16:02.840 that people who pursue influence for its own sake will never actually have very much influence at
00:16:08.040 all. I mean, that's the dirty little secret. That's not really a secret about influencers.
00:16:11.220 They have no influence, or at least they have very little influence. I mean, for the most part,
00:16:15.300 their influence is an illusion. They're able to sell that illusion to sponsors and advertisers
00:16:19.840 for profit, but it's like a bubble. And in a weird way, the influencer bubble is so thin
00:16:25.060 and so imaginary that it feels paradoxically indestructible. Because how can a bubble pop
00:16:31.600 when it doesn't exist to begin with? And none of this bothers the influencers because, as it turns
00:16:36.620 out, influencers don't actually desire influence. What they desire is attention. Now, in our culture,
00:16:43.180 we conflate influence with attention, which is an understandable mistake. After all, in order to
00:16:47.700 influence someone, you first need to get their attention. It stands to reason that a person who
00:16:52.800 gets a lot of attention must wield a lot of influence, but the attention attracted by
00:16:57.320 influencers is of such a fractured and fleeting variety that there is but scant influence attached
00:17:03.400 to it. You know, an influencer might get the public's attention for a million cumulative
00:17:07.320 hours in a given month or year or whatever, but that chunk of time is divided into tiny pieces
00:17:12.660 among millions of people. Each person only engages with them for a few seconds at a time.
00:17:17.680 So the influencer is just one meaningless piece of content in an endless stream of content.
00:17:22.800 And that's how you end up with influencers
00:17:24.060 who have millions of followers,
00:17:26.060 content that's been viewed hundreds of millions of times
00:17:28.640 and are virtually unknown.
00:17:31.500 You know, there are plenty of influencers
00:17:32.560 with objectively large platforms
00:17:34.060 who could walk through any Walmart in America for hours
00:17:37.120 and never be stopped by a single fan
00:17:39.480 or recognized by anyone.
00:17:41.200 Millions of followers, yet still essentially anonymous,
00:17:43.680 should really tell you something.
00:17:45.140 And this then is the worst thing about influencers.
00:17:46.860 It's not that the job, if you can call it a job,
00:17:48.820 is shallow and narcissistic, though it is.
00:17:51.140 It's that it's fake. 0.51
00:17:52.020 It's an illusion. Now, there are people who make their living producing content on the internet and
00:17:57.200 also through that content have influence. But they have influence because the content they make
00:18:02.600 actually has value. They're good at doing something. They have real skill. Their influence
00:18:07.480 is a byproduct of that skill. So if you want to go create something and distribute it through
00:18:13.420 the internet in some form, go ahead. I'd certainly be the last person to try to dissuade you from
00:18:17.400 doing that. But if all you want is attention for its own sake, if all you seek is the shallow,
00:18:23.580 virtually non-existent influence of an influencer, then you're better off doing anything else.
00:18:29.460 And the last thing you should be doing is spending 40 grand a year on a degree in the subject.
00:18:35.260 That degree will be fake, just as most degrees are fake, just as the university system is fake.
00:18:41.840 So on second thought, if you insist on getting any college degree,
00:18:44.360 maybe it might as well be an influencer degree.
00:18:47.160 It's going to be worthless either way.
00:18:48.980 And that, more than anything,
00:18:50.700 is why Arizona State University
00:18:52.420 is today
00:18:54.160 canceled.