Kamala’s Final Moment: Election 2024
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2 hours and 7 minutes
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Summary
Dennis Prager, Matt Walsh, and all the rest of the Daily Wire team react to the historic election victory for Donald Trump in the midterms. They discuss why this was such a big win, and what it means for the future of the country.
Transcript
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He is Dennis Prager, followed perhaps by Matt Walsh.
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Dennis, you would appreciate the showbiz of this joint.
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We decided that we were going to make this video, right?
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Where all the Daily Wire hosts in black and white sort of silhouetted lighting were going
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They lined us all up in front of the LED wall, and they framed up the picture, and then the
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director came over and said, yeah, you're all too short except for Matt Walsh.
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So we're going to make you stand on a box, and we're going to make you stand on a box,
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I wish you had been there so that Matt would know the humiliating reality of being asked
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So guys, on a scale of one to ten, how good are you feeling right now?
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Like really, can we, let's just like enjoy, right?
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There's going to be so many more battles in the future.
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I understand that it feels in the moment as though, you know, the thousand-year reign
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But in reality, there will be battles for tomorrow.
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But let's just like, you know, take a moment to just bask in the awesomeness that is America
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I mean, seriously, the American people stood up on their hind legs, and they said, no, we
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You have been proclaiming that Donald Trump is not normal for eight years at this point.
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For eight long years, you've been claiming that he's not normal.
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And what you mean by that is that he acts kind of weird and says kind of funny things.
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But the actual normal that we want is, you know, like to be able to live with our families
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without you bothering us and telling us that our kids are members of the opposite sex and
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that we ought to be able to keep the property, that we build wealth and actually create things
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And that we ought to be able to have a safe and secure border and that we ought to be able
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Normal is what my parents wanted, what my grandparents wanted.
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And what Donald Trump does is he brings back the normal.
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And so the normies rose up yesterday and in a fit of righteous wrath, smote down the
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That also could be slightly sleep deprivation because two hours, about 48 in the last 48
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But to me, and I, you know, we talked about this last night, but what I keep coming back
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to is that this, this really feels like just a, a total rejection of, of the leftist project
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on, on pretty much every count, certainly on all the, on all the big counts.
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Um, abortion, DEI, trans, uh, the, the economy, crime, immigration.
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This was just a total rejection of the leftist position and all that.
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Now you hesitate to say that because it makes it sound like, well, it's over.
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Now it's just a matter of, well, we know that, that we know we have a winning argument on
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all of these things that we have the winning argument, but to translate the winning argument
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into actual victory, you know, beyond this election, uh, legislative victories, policy
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Can I just say before everybody else jumps in, I want to give a special shout out to Matt
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Walsh because I was talking with Jeremy and Dennis a little bit earlier.
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Listen, everybody at this company has been working unbelievably hard to make things like
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And that's what we do here, which is why you should in fact, go subscribe and join
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us 47% off with code Trump because he's the 47th president.
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But Matt's three big sort of hits over the past course of the past three, four years.
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What is a woman which made the trans issue absolutely toxic to the left and was used in
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every single major campaign, this election cycle, the Budweiser boycott, which was the
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American people saying you are not allowed to just leverage down on us a bunch of trash that
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we don't want. And then combine that with what you just did with am I racist, where you
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completely exposed DEI for the grift that it is. And you were knocking out the legs of
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their stool. And, and those are all major, major components of what just happened to
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the democratic party last night. So special shout out to Matt has worked hard. And of course
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the entire company, which, I mean, let's be real about this. Only Jeremy boring would
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have made those films and, and would, would have, would have produced those films. Only
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I would have signed off at a very tangential level on those films and let everybody else
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do the work and then, you know, reap the benefits, which is what I do here. And, uh, but that,
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that's it. But Matt, like really spectacular job on that.
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I'd like, if I may, I want to describe, I analyze my own self. So last night to my shock,
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I, I didn't feel happiness. I've, I felt overwhelmingly shock and relief today. It's
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all happiness, but I, I figured out why. And I gave this analogy on my radio show. If you
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see a drunk driver just about to hurt a loved one, maybe kill them or certainly terribly injured
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them at, at minimal. And then at the last moment, it hits a lamppost. The drunk driver hits a lamppost.
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Then what do you feel? You don't feel elation at that moment. You feel shock and relief that the
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drunk driver is the left. The lamppost is the American people. The analogy to me is perfect.
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That's what happened. And that's why I understand my first reaction was not, wow, terrific.
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You're, you're, you're beloved. My country is my beloved just as, as, as my family, believe it or
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not. I mean, if, if I don't have my country, yes, it's wonderful to still have your family, but
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people had their families in the Soviet union. It didn't, it didn't compensate for what they had
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there. So that, that is my transition from relief to happiness, like the drunk driver.
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I think that's beautiful. I think it is a perfect analogy. And when I, you know, every time that I've
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been drunk and almost about to hit the lamppost, I have nowhere to go with that because like Matt
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Walsh, I slept two hours, so I can't finish any joke. Instead, I'm going to kick this thing over
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to our dear friend, host of the Megyn Kelly show. I think one of the most important shows that is not
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on the Daily Wire. Uh, and always a pleasure to have here with us, Megyn Kelly. Hey guys,
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how's it going? Did you feel relief or did you feel happiness? Joy, cometh in the morning.
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Cometh in the morning. Uh, I felt both, uh, but I, I'm more in the happiness camp. I just feel like
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the, the people who are chopping up our children and opening our border and allowing these illegals
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to kill our young women are evil and must be stopped. They absolutely have to be fought and
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defeated. We tried being nice. They didn't listen. And therefore it was hand to hand combat and we
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won, we won. And so I feel incredibly gratified and hopeful about the fact that that nonsense is
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going to stop and soon. And we finally have a powerful warrior in the top position and there's
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actual real agenda items he can do to stop those things I just mentioned.
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You know, Megyn, unlike the rest of us who are mostly partisan hacks, if I'm being honest,
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you're, you're an actual journalist and yet you did something that I don't think you've ever done in
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your career. And you came out and endorsed Donald Trump, spoke at his, his final rally, if I'm not
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mistaken, right before on the eve of the election. Uh, what, what went into making that decision and what
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was it like, you know, being in a friendly position with someone with whom you had so publicly
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sparred in the past? Uh, yeah, we've had our ups and downs, Trump and I, um, but it's complicated,
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as I always say, because I am not just a booster of his, you know, I am a journalist. And so when
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he does stuff that I disagree with or that, you know, I, I feel an obligation to critique, I do it.
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And for some reason I get under his skin, you know, he doesn't like it when I critique him.
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Um, and that's fine. I understand it. That's part of my business. So it's been, you know, rocky at
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times, including in the past year, but net net, he knows I'm a supporter of his and I know he's
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going to do controversial things and attack me. If I quote attack him, that's how he sees it.
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Nonetheless, none of that matters. You know, this is about the country, the future of our country.
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And he, there's, there's just no question. He's the, he's the man for the job right now. Even,
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even if they had a normal Democrat, I would have felt that very clearly he's, he's a fighter. And
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that's exactly what we need. That bloodied in danger guy who stands up there with a fist is exactly
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what we need to fight these people who are not just not withstanding what you heard this morning
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on morning, Joe going to roll over on any of their radical agenda. They're not there. Their leftist
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based base will not allow it. They're too beholden to them. I mean, I, I think Matt Walsh knows this
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firsthand. They, these little darlings are really important to them. They are not going to let go of
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the trans radical ideology. They are not going to let Rachel Levine go into the night and be forgotten.
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And this stuff matters to them. So we need that guy. We need the guy who stood by Brett Kavanaugh.
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We need the guy who got up when shot. And so if, for me, it was a no brainer ultimately when,
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when asked like, do I show up there and support him on his last night with the message in particular
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to women who might be gettable for Donald Trump, but on the fence about him still. And considering,
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can I handle him for four more years? And I just felt like the second point is they'd been so
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overwhelmed. They'd been deluged with information about how, if you're a good woman, if you care
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about women's rights, there's only one clear choice and it's her. And I felt like being somebody who is
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more, you know, middle of the road in her politics, I could speak to them. I could, I could speak their
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language to convince them as to why there is only one clear choice and it, and it's him, not her.
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Well, I'm glad that you were able to have that conversation. Obviously Trump actually managed to pick
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up a few points with women in the election, which is sort of to everyone's great surprise. And I
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don't think, uh, you, you obviously played some role in that. And I think it's very brave of you
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to show your shoulders here now that the Reich has begun. Obviously it's all handmaid's tales from now
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on. Megan, where's your bonnet? I don't see any bonnet on you. Megan, you know, I want to get your take
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on, on sort of the left's reaction to this. So last night we were having a discussion as this all emerged
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and we were experiencing the sheer joy and wonder of the evening, uh, as to how they were actually
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going to react as who they were going to blame. My suggestion, because as always, I was wise and
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brilliant was that they would blame the American people. Uh, and they, they promptly have, have been
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doing just that. And it feels like this election has finally loosed the fetters upon them. And they
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are now finally just going to say the thing they've always wanted to say about the American people,
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which is that we're a bunch of rubes and hicks and horrible people. And it's not about social
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media. It's not about the Russians. It's just about us. So it feels like they're just going
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deeper into the crevasse. I mean, we've had so many examples of that this morning. They of course
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have been railing about these damn Latinos who for years now they've been calling white adjacent
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as they express their conservatism. And so they've got to be written off because they are a minority
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group, but it's not okay because they're not pro Democrat. And you know, that can kick you out of
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the cool club and suddenly you're white adjacent. And that means I guess you're going to get mocked on
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the view every day. Then speaking of the view, you had Sonny Hostin come out today and, um,
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rail on these damn uneducated people who are to blame for her loss. They're uneducated.
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And of course, by that, what she means is non-college educated, which in her elite world,
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she went to Harvard, her son's at Harvard. Uh, you're dumb.
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But her son is definitely at Harvard and her daughter's probably there. And she's railing today
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about her daughters, how her daughter has less civil rights than she had. Why again? You live
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in New York. You can get an abortion one day before birth. Well, I don't know what she's referring to,
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but she's deeply concerned about the civil rights of her child and our country. And they are all
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multimillionaires, including Sonny and her daughter. And they live in a state that looks like Mar-a-Lago,
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but she wants to go out there and cry like a victim, just like we saw from Michelle Obama and
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Beyonce and JLo and Oprah, who have been made billionaires in some cases from this country.
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But when we don't do what they say, we have to be berated for our racism, our sexism,
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I'm just glad that Michelle Obama will have exactly one single moment in her entire life
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Well, I mean, the celebrity factor was so annoying throughout the whole thing,
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and it didn't work for them. And they don't learn. They did this with Hillary Clinton.
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You know, who on the Democratic side didn't stop to say, who is Trump doing well with? Oh,
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it's the working class across all races. Well, how can we reach them? Oh, I've got it.
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Taylor Swift. She's going to be able to rule in these white working class guys,
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these Hispanic guys who are feeling absolutely not. They didn't even try. They're just so drunk
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on celebrity that they did the trick. They always do.
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At least Taylor Swift is genuinely beloved and talented. I don't understand how we live in a time
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where Cardi B can be invited by the sitting vice president of the United States to address her
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supporters and give an endorsement. I mean, it's not. What does Cardi B famous for doing?
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All my hilarious responses to that are unspeakable.
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She literally tweeted out something like, what does pee taste like? And then she gets invited
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I have a Kamala Harris joke here, but I cannot say it.
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In the last two days of the campaign, Kamala also had, I believe it was Jennifer Lopez,
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Christina Aguilera, and the rapper Fat Joe, which are really powerful celebrity endorsements
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J-Lo was out there like, I want to speak to Latinos and how terrible what they said about
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Puerto Rico was and going on. Meanwhile, that didn't move the needle at all. This is how out
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of touch they are. And I think about the Oprah. Remember the Oprah round table?
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I do wonder with J-Lo, I do wonder if people looked at her past judgments with men,
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like P. Diddy, who she dated, and went, maybe she makes bad decisions about men kind of generally.
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I mean, when you're just going through the white party list for your final reach out for the
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campaign, it feels not like a great thing, probably.
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Exactly right. I mean, not to mention, I don't like bringing people's kids into it,
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but she's obviously got a kid who is having identity issues. She's got a stepkid who's having
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identity issues. This is no accident. You know, they live in this world in which identity is
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everything. It gets prized. It gets pushed. They get social rewards for having said kids.
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They're conducting social experiments on their own children. Then they want to get out there and
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lecture us about the future of the country. And I'm so thrilled that America saw right through this
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BS. And not only did they see through it, it was definitely one of the issues that rose to the top
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of this campaign, and it made people vote. Megyn Kelly, thank you very much for spending some time
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with us on this joyous day. By the way, did I promise? Did I promise I would take a drink?
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Yes. So is this the time to do that? It is. I was going to say yes. So I think people need to
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understand the last time I had whiskey, I literally don't remember. I'm not opposed to it. I don't,
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I love tobacco. You won't remember that either. Not with this whiskey. Dennis, I would get to make
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you drink alone. I understand. So what are you giving me so I can tell people what I had?
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A little Balvenie 12, double wood. Balvenie 12? Yeah. Oh, Balvenie. Sounds like a shampoo to me.
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I don't understand. Balvenie 12. Is it a scotch? What is it? Do you like drinking? Oh, you don't
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either? We were going to save this. Yeah, for what? Well, let's let the people at home see this great
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moment from last night's show where we learned that Dennis had not had a drink in some of our
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lifetimes. Here's my vow then. If Trump wins, I will drink anything you give me, which is more
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than I have drunk in 50 years. I love tobacco. I don't like alcohol. I will drink. You will raise
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a glass. There's no question about it. And so. Well, I'm really on tape here. Yeah. Okay. I give
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you. You're a man of your word. I am a man of my word. So what, what, I do know this question. What
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proof is it? It's a, that's 600 proof, I think. Oh, you know, you're a savior. That was cruel.
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Oh, you'll find, you'll find out soon enough. This is, this is to make it masculine and official.
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Mm-hmm. Wow. That is a form of Harrison. Oh, I get an umbrella. That is cool.
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To join? Yes, that is correct. Yes. If I have to, if I have to drink, it's with you guys. I want
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to do it. All right. You don't drink? I do, but I'm not a dissower. Not a dissower. Okay. By the way,
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do you all love this? I'm just curious. I have no issue with that. Yeah. Okay. So. I basically
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don't drink. You too? I basically don't drink, but I drink, I'll have a drink. Okay. Here we go.
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And I drink for the two of us, actually, so it balances out. You take both glasses. I do. I can't
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wait for Dennis to start speaking in cursive during Kamala's speech. It's tasty. It is tasty.
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This is a letdown because the setup was you would drink anything we hand to you. Yeah. Oh,
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where his mind went is really the man who exposes DEI. They are setting up. No, I'm not
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joking. This, it's tasty. We just got him off the wagon for the first time in day. Dennis
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is going to end up in a gutter now. So seriously, what is it known? Is it a scotch? Is it a what
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is it? Single malt scotch. Single malt scotch. My son loves it. My father loved it. I,
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I am the black sheep in my family. Dennis, if you drink any more, you'll be eligible to
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run for president as the vice president. I can't believe I'm enjoying it. I can't
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believe it. Well, and by the way, Dennis, you think your first glass is good? The third
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and fourth glass. The seventh is the best one. Yeah. They're over at Howard University right
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now. So the best is this with the cigar. Where's the story with the cigars? I put in an order
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for cigars. I don't know. There will be cigars. Okay. Listen, this is what happens. This
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is what happens when you want to surprise Dennis Prager with a little pink umbrella.
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I specifically told the team to have all this ready for after the concession speech. We're
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going to have a nice cigar. Oh, I blew it by mentioning. You blew it. I mean, it's fine.
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I'm sorry. Well, you should have told me. That would help. I will say that while we did think
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about funny things to make you drink, there's nothing. I who do not drink essential. I'm not
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a teetotaler, but you can see teetotaling from where I am. But even I will say that on a day
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like today, whiskey has never tasted better. Yes. That's right. Maybe that's a factor in why
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I'm liking it. Although I am starting to feel a little swirl. In the celebratory spirit,
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you might have noticed I'm wearing a sort of wide late 90s tie. That is because my mother gave me
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this tie. And I think about 2003, I don't, I'm not bragging or nothing. It is a part of the official
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Donald J. Trump tie collection. There you go. I don't know where she got it. It might have been
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at TJ Maxx. It might have been at Macy's. I don't know. I have had it in my closet for about 20 years.
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It's obviously held up very well, as has the president. And I figure if one does not wear the
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DJ T tie today, because I actually feel real vindicated about this whole thing. You know,
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many people tolerate Trump because they say, I don't like his tweets or whatever, but I like his
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policy. I like the guy, especially being a New Yorker. I like the guy. And so I've thought he's
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actually a pretty good candidate. And people say he's a terrible candidate, but, you know, he somehow
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makes it across. I thought he was a pretty good candidate. And then 2020 happened. And I said, okay,
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I don't know. Maybe we'll see. The fact that this guy won the Electoral College by a lot,
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that he won the popular vote, that he assembled this coalition that is unlike a coalition that any
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Republican has done in my lifetime, at least. I think we have to conclude he's a good candidate.
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The guy, he did something. He's a political genius. He's a political genius. And he makes nice times.
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It's just a weird form of genius. That's all. It's hard to, you know, I mean,
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geniuses do things that you've never seen before and they break all the rules and sometimes they
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get it. I don't think that 20, I don't believe that in 2016, Donald Trump did anything particularly
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spectacular. I think that Hillary Clinton did something spectacular. She failed spectacular.
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Being a terrible candidate. That's right. Which is why he was, as I've said before,
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why he was able to win with fewer votes, say in Wisconsin than Mitt Romney lost Wisconsin with,
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right? But what you cannot deny is someone then coming back and winning not only an overwhelming
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majority in the electoral college, but also winning the popular vote. And what that tells
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you is that while what Trump did in 2016 may or may not have been spectacular, what he did
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in 2024 is a true feat of political. Indisputable.
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Only the greatest politicians are able to accomplish what he just accomplished.
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I shouldn't say he's a political genius. He has a genius that he can look at something.
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He's like a guy who can look at the Rubik's Cube of life and solve it. You know, he just does it.
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You, I've seen him do it again and again, and you can see him shift almost when he's talking.
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You can see him, you read the field and all this stuff and he just figured it out. And I think,
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by the way, I just want to add this, throw this out there. I think it's going to be a great
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presidency. I think it's going to be the best second term we've ever seen because he has
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actually taken four years. God has arranged it. So he's taken four years to learn what he needed,
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There's another thing to add there, which is in 2020, if he had won,
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he would have been settled to the Democratic Congress. In 2024, he has an overwhelmingly
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Republican Senate. The Republicans are going to take the house. He's actually going to have a
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majority that he can work with. And if you want more good news, because, you know, I bear glad,
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I bring glad tidings. The electoral college, I've mentioned this before, that they screwed up the
00:23:25.480
census in 2020. There are actual extra votes in the South that were not properly counted. I am calling
00:23:30.620
right now on the Congress of the United States, the President of the United States, to pass
00:23:34.680
legislation that allows for the recapitulation of the census figures sufficient so that in the
00:23:41.440
2028 election, those votes actually shift to the states where they belong, because that's where
00:23:45.920
those votes belong. People being disenfranchised right now in Florida, people being disenfranchised
00:23:50.280
right now in Texas, because the count is not correct. And then in 2030, there's going to be
00:23:54.520
another census. And if that census goes how people think that census is going to go,
00:23:58.000
12 electoral college votes are going to shift from blue states to deep red states. None of those
00:24:04.100
are in the Rust Belt. That's three to Florida. That's four to Texas. That's one to Arizona.
00:24:10.740
That's one to Idaho. That's, I believe, one to Georgia.
00:24:16.100
So what do you think the Democrats are going to try to do about that? Because there's no way they
00:24:24.420
can just sit and allow that to happen. So what's their move? I mean, I think they just lose,
00:24:30.300
frankly. I mean, I don't think their move was the open border. Right. And I think that I think that
00:24:35.120
they do not. Here's here's the thing. I don't see what their next move is, because the problem for
00:24:40.660
them is that Donald Trump occupied the other half of the agenda. Right. So if their agenda was
00:24:45.400
normally two things, right, one was the kind of woke, racialist, intersectional crap. And then one
00:24:50.080
of it was the sort of Bernie Sanders, socialistic redistributionist stuff. The truth is that there's
00:24:55.080
some crossover between the stuff that Trump has said about entitlements and where Bernie Sanders
00:24:58.500
is on entitlements. Like the most, the most robust arguments that have used, been used against
00:25:01.880
Republicans in my lifetime on the financial stuff where Paul Ryan shoving granny off the cliff and
00:25:05.740
all the rest of it. You can't use that on Trump and you're not going to be able to use it on vans
00:25:08.940
because the Republican party has basically said, all right, you guys want to ride across the cliff?
00:25:12.720
Like we can't stop you. So I guess that's the way it's going to go. And with that off the table,
00:25:17.280
that by the way, abortion is off the table too. I'm pointing this out right now.
00:25:20.740
Abortion is a live issue in this election. It will not be a live issue in 2028. And the reason it
00:25:24.500
will not be a live issue in 2028 is every state will have already picked the abortion regime
00:25:28.460
that it actually wants. And the Supreme court will have already spoken by 2028 and said there cannot
00:25:33.240
be widespread federal legislation on abortion, which means it will be relegated back to the states.
00:25:38.760
And by the way, you saw some of this last night, right? So for example, Missouri did pass a
00:25:41.840
referendum. That was a pro-abortion referendum in Missouri and Missouri went by 10 points to Donald Trump.
00:25:46.400
So people are already shifting away from thinking of their congressperson, senators,
00:25:50.640
and presidents as people with a fundamental task on abortion. They're thinking of their
00:25:53.920
governors and their state legislatures as the people with the fundamental task on abortion.
00:25:57.140
So you take abortion away from the Democrats on the federal level, you take entitlements away
00:26:00.180
from Democrats on the federal level. What precisely do they have? Higher taxes and weak foreign policy
00:26:04.740
and an open border? What's the agenda? Those are like the three least popular items.
00:26:08.880
I don't understand what you're missing about joy, brat, and vibe.
00:26:13.000
You know, another thing, if Trump had won in 2020, he still would have had COVID and they still would
00:26:20.160
have had COVID to beat him up with. It was right in the middle. And he would have had to deal with
00:26:25.080
inflation. It was spending that was being pushed by Democrats, but Republicans led it through or
00:26:30.740
didn't have the strength to stop it. Although Biden amped it up. Biden amped it up with the
00:26:33.820
inflation reduction. Increased inflation. My favorite name, yeah. But he would have been dealing
00:26:39.040
with a lot of economic challenges. Yeah. Well, part of the grace that's, obviously the country
00:26:43.360
received enormous mercy from God here, but so did Donald Trump because Donald Trump deserves a lot
00:26:50.760
of blame for what happened in 2020. You know, COVID isn't just a thing that happened to Donald Trump,
00:26:56.080
although certainly it was weaponized against Donald Trump by not just the domestic left,
00:27:00.740
but I think even the global left. But also the worst aspects of Donald Trump's presidency
00:27:05.420
were his handling of COVID. And in a way, God spared him from having to be the one who paid
00:27:10.860
the immediate price for those policies that he allowed to happen. I mean, he surrendered the
00:27:14.320
country to Anthony Fauci for months and months and months. You know, although you're right,
00:27:19.440
I think you're too hard on him since every other Western leader did the same thing except
00:27:24.680
Ron Sanders. Except Sweden. Eventually. But I don't think this is fair. I think that we should hold
00:27:30.100
Donald Trump to a high standard. I don't think we should hold him to no standard. Donald Trump,
00:27:33.980
hold on. Donald Trump doesn't purport to be like every other Western leader. He purports to be the
00:27:39.060
one of one, the wrecking ball, the guy who can't be pushed around, the guy who sees through the
00:27:43.160
bull crap, the guy who doesn't buy the conspiracies. And I would further say that when we point to the
00:27:48.380
way that the global Western leaders responded to COVID, I believe that a large portion of what
00:27:54.460
originally inspired their response was attempting to defeat Donald Trump, meaning that I even think
00:27:59.360
that the heads of states of other nations were engaged in some level in a try to defeat Donald
00:28:04.880
Trump because he had made them all crazy. And when Donald Trump gave his, we're going to reopen
00:28:09.560
on Easter Sunday speech, which was basically America will rise again on the day that Christ rose.
00:28:16.340
It was one of the great speeches, I believe, in American presidential history.
00:28:20.820
Had he done it, I would have voted four times for him.
00:28:23.920
No, I agree with you about that. I agree with you. I don't think he handled it well. I'm not sure.
00:28:29.180
Again, I just think you're being too hard on him. There was this thing. You know,
00:28:32.520
who would you listen to if a plague came through?
00:28:36.100
Literally last night, though, we were saying that maybe he shouldn't have gone to war in
00:28:39.420
Afghanistan when literally any president of the United States, left, right, center,
00:28:44.280
RFK Jr., Ron Paul, would have bombed Afghanistan over 9-11.
00:28:49.560
First, I agree that Trump did the wrong thing, but also George W. Bush had a freedom agenda for
00:28:58.020
the Middle East, which was a big mistake. George W. Bush developed a freedom agenda for the Middle
00:29:03.200
East after 9-11 and the realization that we had to go to war in Afghanistan. That's what I'm saying.
00:29:08.280
But anyone would have gone to war in Afghanistan. Hold on. Donald Trump would go to war in Afghanistan
00:29:12.520
if they knocked down the 20th power. I think that you're arguing past each other just a little bit
00:29:16.280
in the sense that whether it's not a matter of blame. The reality is that bad decisions were
00:29:20.620
made during 2020 by President Trump, decisions that none of us liked. He got a reprieve by the
00:29:26.880
American people. The American people were giving Donald Trump a lot of credit. He deserves an
00:29:30.960
enormous amount of credit, right? I mean, I really think that, I mean, I read the famous Teddy
00:29:34.820
Roosevelt quote on the air today about the man in the arena, right? I mean, that really is Donald Trump.
00:29:39.220
He deserves an enormous amount of credit. The people who deserve the credit are the people who voted for
00:29:42.840
Donald Trump. The people who showed up in droves to vote for Donald Trump because they rejected
00:29:47.500
all the things that they were being told about themselves and about their country.
00:29:51.120
Now, there are a lot of people, I mentioned this before, but Sam Harris and I had this conversation
00:29:55.360
about Trump versus Kamala. And he was saying, ah, on character grounds, don't you care about the
00:29:59.440
character of the president? And said, you know what I really care about? I care about the character of
00:30:02.620
the American people. And I care less about the character of the president of the United States.
00:30:06.580
What I want from the president of the United States is to fix the toilet. I care a lot about the
00:30:09.940
character of the American people. And it says something deep and abidingly true about the
00:30:13.420
character of the American people. They were willing to stand up in the face of a tsunami of lies about
00:30:18.200
Donald Trump, a blizzard of lies, unlike anything I've ever seen in my lifetime. The last month of
00:30:22.700
this campaign alone was just lie after lie after lie. A tsunami of lies, you don't even need to add
00:30:27.620
about Donald Trump. They stood up against the tsunami of lies. This is what, I am convinced that
00:30:34.240
they're charged that Trump always lies. And the Washington Post, which is almost defunct,
00:30:40.600
listed 2,000 lies, allegedly. But name one lie of Donald Trump that compares to the Russian collusion
00:30:50.360
with the Trump campaign lie. Name one that compares to men give birth. The list of lies from the left
00:30:59.620
is so enormous. 51 heads of intelligence said that the, the, uh, the, um, Hunter Biden laptop was
00:31:08.000
Russian disinformation. But by the way, many of those were actively in the government, which is
00:31:14.260
treason. But this is sort of why I totally see your point, Ben, that, you know, in answer to a Sam
00:31:20.020
Harris of the world, you can say, look, I don't really care about the politicians as individuals. I care
00:31:24.340
about what they represent, the people who support them. But I also think we don't have to concede the
00:31:28.680
point. Donald Trump has much better character than Kamala Harris and then Joe Biden. That's right.
00:31:33.700
And then any of these Democrats. That's correct. I agree with that. But the point that I was making
00:31:37.080
is because I'm trying to argue in that case to the median voter who's looking at this and may have
00:31:41.300
problems with how Donald Trump acts on the public stage. Yeah. But I mean, I started that little,
00:31:45.700
that little speech right there by saying that he is the man in the arena. Yeah. Okay. The, the,
00:31:50.160
the thing is, as I said yesterday, I'll go back to it. The best biblical, the best biblical
00:31:55.460
analog to Donald Trump is not King David. It is Noah. He is a man for the time. He is a complete
00:32:01.580
man. He's, he's, he's, he's, he's, right? Like in his generation, he is a complete person in his
00:32:10.320
generation. Okay. It's a flood generation and flood generation. You need a man who builds an arc.
00:32:14.100
Donald Trump is a man who builds the arc and then the floodwaters recede. And then he goes out and
00:32:18.580
guess what? If you read the story of Noah, he does some pretty bad crap right after that. But the
00:32:21.880
reality is he was a ish tzaddik, tamim, complete, hayab adorotav, right? In his generation,
00:32:28.120
he's built for the, this is a time built for Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a man built for his time.
00:32:32.400
And, and this is, it's times that make great leaders. Okay. Abraham Lincoln in 1830 is not
00:32:36.500
a great leader. Right. And Winston Churchill in 1920 is not a great leader. I mean, he's out of
00:32:40.240
government by 1920 and, and Bibi Netanyahu five years ago is, is, you know, in trouble. And now he's a man
00:32:46.500
for his, like great leaders are made by the time in which they live. And this time demanded Donald Trump
00:32:51.360
rose to be the man for that time. We're moments away from vice president Kamala Harris walking
00:32:56.580
out to hopefully speed us some delicious leftist tears. In the meantime, we have Daily Wire's very
00:33:02.020
own Spencer Lindquist at Howard University, where the vice president is about to speak.
00:33:06.420
Spencer, how are things going over there? Oh, that's right. So last night in the early hours
00:33:11.880
of the night, it was very optimistic. There was music pumping. People were excited. And we saw that
00:33:17.200
start to die down, especially when North Carolina was called for Trump tonight really is nothing like
00:33:22.720
last night in those early hours. The crowd is probably have maybe I'd say 30 or 40% of the
00:33:27.620
people that were here last night are now here. We've got shots of virtually empty bleachers.
00:33:32.420
And I'm seeing, you know, very sad faces, people giving each other hugs and just patiently waiting
00:33:36.840
for Harris to take the stage. So has anything burned down yet? I mean, that's the real question.
00:33:42.420
When do they start burning stuff? Or are they, have they been so neutered by President Trump,
00:33:46.600
who has saved all the dogs and the cats in Springfield, by the way? Have they been so neutered
00:33:50.700
that it is no longer possible for them to, to them, for them to riot?
00:33:55.620
You know, we haven't seen any violence, any, any, really even any protesting. Last night,
00:33:59.660
afterwards, we went over to the White House to see if there would be people gathering outside,
00:34:02.840
if there'd be protesters, if there'd be rioters. And there was really nothing. It was, it was
00:34:07.680
basically dead quiet. And, you know, maybe they've just tired themselves out after a decade of going
00:34:13.100
up against this man, who, of course, has just been bouncing back from, from everything they've
00:34:16.920
laid against him. Spencer, do you know when Kate McKinnon plans to croak out a whining dirge of Leonard
00:34:25.440
Cohen's? Maya Rudolph, Maya Rudolph. It's Maya Rudolph. It's Maya Rudolph, right? You're right. You're
00:34:30.000
right. Oh, well, that'll be better then. Maya Rudolph, she's pretty good, actually. You know,
00:34:33.640
that'll, I'm still, I guess this Saturday is the answer. She's a real talent. Yeah.
00:34:38.560
Any predictions on what you'll say? Spencer, have you heard anything there? You know, I,
00:34:44.280
you know, we, we've talked to a couple people and really, you know, um, kind of the question
00:34:51.380
that's on my mind is why people are actually coming back. Because last night, you know, when that
00:34:56.420
co-chair came out, the, the co-chair of the campaign, the co-chair came out and said,
00:35:01.800
she's not going to be addressing you tonight. You've got to wait until tomorrow. And by that
00:35:05.000
point, we were already pretty certain on the outcome. A lot of people made the decision to
00:35:08.700
just not come back out. Some people came here, you know, it is a historical moment, um, with,
00:35:14.600
without a doubt. So some people are just here. It's definitely historic that Donald Trump
00:35:18.320
is defeating, vanquishing his second female opponent for president. His nickname is the
00:35:23.600
glass ceiling. That was the New York Times theory. That was their biggest single theory
00:35:28.080
that it was a woman. Yeah. Remember I asked last night, what are they going to say? Yeah. So
00:35:33.540
now, now they, they're blaming it on misogyny. Sure. No, that, that makes perfect sense.
00:35:38.820
That's why he got a two point bounce among women. Yeah. Women know what that. Those voters.
00:35:45.400
Tough eating women. I'm sorry, Spencer. I cut you off to make a joke. That's just how we do it
00:35:50.200
around here. Are people starting to take down their boards around the DC area?
00:35:58.440
You know, uh, the DC area right now, I mean, we were out kind of just walking the streets earlier
00:36:02.760
and it's pretty quiet. You know, this is a D plus, I mean, it's 80 or 90% Democrat really within the
00:36:08.680
district itself. So the mood is somber, even just on the streets of DC, but of course, specifically
00:36:14.980
here in this party, it is especially somber and I'm seeing people kind of, I saw one group sitting
00:36:20.000
in a circle kind of commiserating, um, and talking about what the next four years look like. Of
00:36:24.980
course, those are all Harris supporters. Uh, and they were there kind of reassuring each
00:36:29.700
other, hugging each other. Uh, uh, it looked like a little bit of a, uh, you know, a therapy
00:36:33.700
circle almost. Spencer, has anyone, is he here? Is he here? Yeah. Spencer, has anyone seen
00:36:40.020
you smiling? I think a couple people have caught me. I went up to, to, uh, to go up and
00:36:48.040
interview a few people. They saw the grin. Um, I don't think it worked. Laugh directly in their
00:36:53.880
faces. Get it on camera. Spencer Lindquist, thanks for being with us. If you insist. From
00:37:01.040
Howard University, where Vice President Kamala Harris is expected to take the stage any moment
00:37:05.780
to give her a concession. Can I say one thing about the speech? It, it does, she does have
00:37:10.480
the opportunity to actually give an important speech and, uh, she could actually say some
00:37:14.220
things that, uh, you know, to, to, in, to, in, in some way, if not unify the country, at least
00:37:20.660
assure her supporters that this guy is not actually Hitler. Matt, I have a question. It's not going
00:37:25.060
to happen. It will not happen. It will, it will not happen in a thousand years. I'm just pointing
00:37:29.380
out that like, this doesn't have to be a totally useless speech. She could do something. She could,
00:37:33.760
it could be, if she had any integrity at all, she could actually help the country with this speech,
00:37:38.220
but she won't. Why deal with counterfactuals? Totally throw Joe Biden under the bus.
00:37:42.700
Yeah, that would be entertaining. I mean, I think instead of saying what she should say,
00:37:45.560
let's say what we're rooting for her to say. So what I'm rooting for her to say is for her to
00:37:49.200
come out and be like, listen, we all knew old Joe had to go in 2022 and he didn't go in 2022.
00:37:54.520
Instead he stuck around and then he stuck me with his bag and I had to somehow run this thing
00:37:58.640
across the finish line. Don't blame me. Don't blame, don't blame me. It wasn't me.
00:38:02.180
It was Joe. And then somebody is going to have to come drag Doug Emhoff off the stage before he
00:38:07.900
spots a nanny. Wait, you think they're still married? I think Doug Emhoff is the happiest
00:38:12.540
man in America today. I think the idea that he wanted to be first gentleman is ridiculous on
00:38:16.220
its face. Like that is it. That is a dude, given his personal history, that is somebody who's very
00:38:20.920
happy to be going back to Beverly Hills. Yes. Yes. Isn't the only thing that she can blame
00:38:25.760
just that the Don Corleone lament, if only we had more time. Yeah. That's what I'm thinking. Yeah.
00:38:32.740
You have to understand it was a last minute thing and we did, we did the best we could for that.
00:38:37.360
Yeah. Cause then it doesn't offend anybody. She doesn't have to take responsibility. It is
00:38:41.940
plausible. I mean, it was absurd that they swapped out their nominee at the last minute.
00:38:46.160
Well, you know, what I'm looking forward to is her next run.
00:38:48.840
That's really what I'm looking for. I think Kamala Harris 4.0 will be so much better than
00:38:55.020
Kamala Harris 3.0 ever was. Yes. I mean, each upgrade has been treated with just rapturous
00:39:00.320
joy by media. So I'm really, I can't imagine it's like the iPhone 16, just a new, a new reissue
00:39:06.120
that's just going to get better with every single update. The reason she gets better.
00:39:09.560
There is a way forward to Matt's point really, where the cooler heads in the Democrat parties
00:39:15.760
start to seize back the party from the, the, the, only rhetorically it will, it will be
00:39:20.860
pure rhetoric. Well, they always govern too far to the left. Okay. Just, that's very
00:39:24.680
important that, that everyone know that they will, they will veer toward the center. You
00:39:29.160
know, we really overdid it on X, Y, and Z. And then as soon as they have power, they will
00:39:34.080
go back to X, Y, and Z. Yeah, that's exactly right. That's probably true.
00:39:36.660
So here's a question from a daily wire member. If you're not a member, please consider joining
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00:39:45.360
is the 47th president and our members make it possible for us to do the work that we
00:39:49.600
do. Uh, is there any concern that the left won't give up power come January? No, not in
00:39:55.420
my mind. No. They just got clobbered. If it were close, then maybe, but they just got totally
00:39:59.480
creamed. Right. That's going to be fun though. Kamala gets to preside over the certification.
00:40:03.380
Yeah. The great loser, uh, a, one of the great losers is the New York times. Oh, this is
00:40:10.600
really important that people understand this. The New York times is no longer, I will never,
00:40:15.700
I was telling Ben early, I will never use the term mainstream media again. It is just
00:40:20.540
left-wing media. They are the outliers. We are now much more mainstream. Yeah. Prager,
00:40:27.240
you daily wire, all the, uh, you know, uh, Megan Kelly, Joe Rogan. I mean, all the whole gang,
00:40:33.860
we are now mainstream. They are left-wing media. The only people that read the New York times are
00:40:41.540
leftists. It is a fact. It's, it is, that is it. They had the, the New York times now realizes
00:40:48.340
to some extent, I don't think fully, they have no influence on the country. None to say to the
00:40:54.620
average American, you know, the New York times said you, you might as well say, well, Harvard said,
00:41:00.160
yeah, right. It is a tragedy because a, the New York times is the best digital media company in
00:41:07.160
the world, which is an amazing thing to say. Four years ago, they weren't a digital media company
00:41:11.020
at all. It's one of, they are blockbuster who became Netflix. It's the greatest transformation
00:41:17.220
I've ever seen of a company, maybe in, maybe in history. The other reason it's tragic is they still
00:41:23.840
do the best journalism of any publication in the world. It's no one on the right can yet field
00:41:29.980
a fraction of the actual investigative journalistic power that can be fielded by the New York times.
00:41:36.820
We can't field a fraction of the Washington Post. We can't field a fraction of the wall
00:41:40.840
street journal. And so to see that, well, just those three that I just named, they, they control
00:41:46.520
something like 80% of all the actual investigative firepower in the country. It is, it is a real loss
00:41:53.520
to the country that those institutions, which were always of the left have become leftist,
00:41:59.020
which is, which is different. They've become instruments of the Democrat. By the way, just
00:42:02.860
if you're talking though, about raw news, I know I read one of the only newspapers I read every day.
00:42:10.940
By the way, I do read the New York times physical edition, not just digital every day, just for the
00:42:15.560
record. But that's just to know what the left is saying, not to, not to really learn about the
00:42:20.040
world. The Telegraph in Britain, that is a magnificent newspaper. The Epoch Times is a
00:42:27.380
magnificent newspaper, in my opinion. We, the National Post in Canada, I mean, they, they, they're not,
00:42:35.600
they don't have the money to have reporters in Rwanda. Yeah. But, but there are new sources
00:42:42.660
worthy of noting. But it is, it is true. You're absolutely right that they have all that firepower,
00:42:47.440
but they have been, become kind of porn. I mean, I was thinking about on this morning that they
00:42:52.600
really have been relegated to porn. And by the way, the Daily Wire, you guys have a lot of news.
00:42:58.120
Yeah. I mean, I don't want to, I go to you for news. Yeah. But we don't have to record. The other
00:43:02.780
thing is that what, what they realized is that as their, as their margins began to shrink,
00:43:07.960
they became fan service. That's right. And the most ardent fans were left-wingers. And so they just
00:43:11.840
kept doubling down on their fan service. Audience capture is, it's a vicious circle. Audience capture is one of the,
00:43:16.580
the truly pernicious phenomena of, of the digital age. I mean, and you can tell because I think the
00:43:21.980
only person at the New York Times who voted for Trump in all likelihood is Ross Duthat, right? I
00:43:26.780
mean, Ross is the only one probably even considered that. At the Washington Post, there's literally no
00:43:30.880
one. Yeah. Right. The Washington Post, I think that now that Hugh Hewitt stepped away, right? Right.
00:43:35.420
Now that Hugh Hewitt, there's, there's literally no one there. Wait, Hugh Hewitt, I hadn't heard that.
00:43:39.460
Yeah. I get it. It's fantastic. But it's, but since, so, so every major newspaper,
00:43:45.640
the biggest newspapers in the country don't have anyone who's even writing for their editorial
00:43:49.020
page who can even say that they voted for a person the majority of Americans voted for in the last
00:43:53.980
election cycle. At the New York Times, the conservatives who do, who are allowed to contribute
00:43:59.120
to the editorial section, all voted for Kamala. Other than Ross Duthat. Right. But he's truly,
00:44:04.180
he's the one. Well, first of all, you say all. It's three. It's three. Yeah. And I'm still don't know,
00:44:09.440
I, I don't know. I know what's conservative about Brett Stevens. Obviously Ross Duthat. But
00:44:15.200
what is conservative about David French? Well, I think that David French is still
00:44:19.820
committed to most of the same values that he was committed to. Does it come through in his column?
00:44:25.320
I don't think it is. Well, no. There's no evidence. Ten years ago, he was a libertarian. And that's why
00:44:29.140
he gets the credit today. Because he is so outraged by Donald Trump that he's willing to side
00:44:35.060
against the people who want to advance the things that he writes in favor of. Well, it's a conservative
00:44:39.940
case. He's abandoned our values out of hatred of Trump. That's called derangement. Well, that is
00:44:45.380
true. Well, certainly I think it's, it is, it is derangement. No question about it. I don't think
00:44:50.220
that it's the same as him being a leftist. It is. Correct. Correct. The practical effect is the same.
00:44:54.540
Yes. That's, well, that's all that matters. The practical effect is right. He's become a
00:44:57.760
quizzling for the left in a bizarre belief that if he does so, eventually a right that he approves of
00:45:03.040
will emerge. That's right. You know, I was on, today I was on Piers Morgan's show with Joe Walsh,
00:45:07.780
who was a right-wing radio host and congressman who then, I think he ran for president, but you
00:45:11.740
know, he just supports Democrats now. And, and he said, we were arguing about something. He said,
00:45:15.520
but Michael, you don't understand. I'm, you know, I'm a, I'm a Republican. I'm not a Democrat. And I
00:45:19.620
thought, you know, I actually kind of liked the guy, but I thought, man, you can't, I think you get
00:45:23.480
like three election cycles. If you don't vote for a Republican, you're out. Okay. And it is true that
00:45:29.480
their derangement causes them to also not support any other Republicans. So when you have, right,
00:45:34.400
listen, I said last night, I think Jonah Goldberg is one of the greatest writers in the country.
00:45:39.100
And yet he can't even support a Ron DeSantis. They can't even just support a Ron DeSantis
00:45:42.940
because Trump has made them so mad that anything that isn't like Jeb Bush, they're going to oppose.
00:45:49.600
It's completely self-inflicted wounds because they, I had, Jonah Goldberg did a course for,
00:45:55.600
did a video for PragerU. Jonah Goldberg, I think liberal fascism is one of the most important books
00:46:01.560
of the last 50 years. And, and, and he, he, he has rendered himself less important. I don't know.
00:46:10.120
That's why the arrangement is, is not an, an invalid word.
00:46:14.880
Well, because I think that one of the things that that's been, it is happening on, on a lot of
00:46:18.780
sides of the aisle is we now have gotten to the point in American life where if people don't vote the
00:46:23.740
way you want, you're disappointed in the people. And you can't function in democracy where you're
00:46:30.180
constantly disappointed with the people. Makes it very difficult to actually believe in the country
00:46:34.920
when you're constantly disappointed. But Ben, what's the Mencken quote?
00:46:38.040
Democracy is the theory that the common people deserve, know what they want, deserve to get it good and hard.
00:46:43.920
Right. Yeah. And, and, and that's, and that's, that's true, but it also means that you have to
00:46:48.340
have faith that eventually they're going to make some good decisions and that if they make a decision
00:46:52.040
that you don't like, maybe there were some decent reasons. Especially to be disappointed with, to have
00:46:55.580
these commentators that are disappointed in the people. Well, your whole job, our whole job is to
00:47:00.400
convince the people. It's what we do for a living. And so if the people, uh, aren't agreeing with you,
00:47:05.720
then you can be disappointed in them or you can be disappointed in yourself. You didn't make the case.
00:47:08.740
That is absolutely true. And it's the people's country. Ultimately they get to choose how they
00:47:15.280
want to live. And this is exactly my point last night of, I didn't want Donald Trump to be the
00:47:19.080
nominee. I didn't vote for him in the primary. That's what primaries are for. The majority of
00:47:24.380
Republican primary voters disagreed with me. They win. Now Donald Trump is the nominee. The question
00:47:29.620
before me isn't who the question before me in, in November of 2024, isn't who would I like to see
00:47:36.280
be the Republican nominee for president? Right. That is, that question is settled. Yes. There is
00:47:41.680
one. Perfect. That's right. And you know, on this point of people kind of coming together, the
00:47:46.980
Republicans did unify here in the general and, and the election was conducted efficiently and with
00:47:52.480
sufficient margin that we, Hey, we found out on election. I remember when we used to do that.
00:47:55.700
And so I think it gave people, and this, this actually is important for the Democrats,
00:48:00.860
even if they won't admit it now, it gave people a confidence that the system still holds.
00:48:06.000
And that the people's choices are still reflected. It's another reason it's a big
00:48:10.320
evening. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, I'd said before the election that the worst case scenario,
00:48:15.120
the worst case was Kamala narrow, right? That if I had to have like order of what was good for the
00:48:19.120
country, Trump big, Trump narrow, Kamala big, Kamala narrow. If you're looking at like things that
00:48:24.440
are, cause the worst case scenario that would have been terrible for the country is Kamala sneaking it
00:48:28.440
out at 3 AM by a margin of two votes in Wisconsin. It would have been awful for the country at every
00:48:33.000
possible level. So we got the best possible scenario because God has shined upon this country
00:48:37.660
once again, but you know, it is, it is a very good thing. That's why I think you're not seeing
00:48:41.820
because it was a clear cut victory. I think that that's, that, that is a good thing. And again,
00:48:47.040
Democrats are going to have to go back to the drawing board and they're going to have to think
00:48:49.440
to themselves about what they have done wrong. You're going to have to go back to the corner.
00:48:52.700
You're going to have to read your homework. You're going to have to figure out exactly what it was
00:48:56.200
that went wrong. Because if you think about Barack Obama as a singular figure who was elected for a
00:49:00.820
host of reasons that really had very little to do with his policy, which is actually what he was,
00:49:04.800
right? I mean, he was a singular figure in himself. He's a great speaker, obviously his
00:49:08.580
personal characteristics, his race, all of that kind of stuff. The last successful national
00:49:13.000
democratic politician, truly successful as Bill Clinton, who today would be characterized as a
00:49:17.280
moderate Republican by his agenda. How do you run on a left-wing agenda that the American people
00:49:22.600
do not like without the signal power of a Barack Obama? And so the question is, they're either
00:49:28.460
going to have to find another cult figure, which is what Obama was. They're going to find a celebrity
00:49:31.460
cult figure like Barack Obama, or they're going to have to start re-examining the agenda of, say,
00:49:36.420
James Carville and Bill Clinton, and maybe start looking at the blue dog Democrats once again.
00:49:41.980
I think that that's right. And I think that they're actually, look, the only sane reaction to a defeat
00:49:46.200
like this is to say, where have we gone wrong? And if you come up with the idea that it's messaging,
00:49:51.080
which is what they usually do, then you're never going to get anywhere. Because that's what
00:49:54.360
Dennis was saying before. That's right. Thank you. That's exactly it. It's just going to be a
00:49:58.740
rhetorical change. I can't think of a single major left-wing figure who will say, gee, maybe I really
00:50:08.840
am wrong on a person being able to change sex. It's inconceivable to me. They're in there in the rank
00:50:16.840
and file. There are actually some of them in there in the media. The question is whether they can yank
00:50:21.240
back the party from... Who's they? The people who are going to be sane about this do exist on the
00:50:27.600
left. Can you name a name? No, no, I'm not giving you a hard time. I can't think of anyone.
00:50:32.020
Believe it or not, on the gender issue, Van Jones. So actually, there are Democrats of color who are
00:50:36.960
more likely to be the people who yank them back on those issues than the white Democrats. The white
00:50:41.360
Democrats are the nudges of the Democrats. Or even Don Lemon when he's being candid. He also tends to
00:50:46.580
track a little more toward the middle when he's not being pushed by CNN. Look at Cuomo now, Chris Cuomo.
00:50:51.060
Will any of them say, you know, maybe America was not founded in 1619? I'm not kidding. That's a
00:50:58.820
biggie. That's as big as men give birth. America was founded in 1619. I was giving you the list of
00:51:04.200
lies. There's an enormous one. That's right. Well, here's an idea. What if we just keep
00:51:08.140
beating them until they do learn the lesson? Michael, here's a question from a DailyWire.com
00:51:12.560
subscriber. Again, if you're not a subscriber, DailyWire.com slash subscribe for 47% off
00:51:16.780
promo code Trump. Will the truth of all the corruption finally come out now? Will leftists
00:51:22.140
see the lies that they swallowed? There are people in our lives that bought all the lies and they still
00:51:26.680
think we're the bad guys. Will they be able to see the truth once Trump takes office? No, those are
00:51:33.040
two separate questions. The first, will all the corruption come out? No. Everyone is broadly aware
00:51:38.540
of the great corruption in our government and our culture. Both sides of the aisle are aware of it and
00:51:42.720
they disagree a little bit over the nature of it, but they're aware of it. And some of that will
00:51:46.080
come out and I think Trump will clean house to as great a degree as he can in the federal bureaucracy
00:51:50.580
in particular. And that will be difficult and it will be unsatisfying, but I think he can get
00:51:54.460
somewhere. In terms of will Democrats see the error of their ways? No, I don't think so. I think it's
00:52:00.200
going to take them a little while longer to do that because they've really bought in and they've
00:52:04.860
accepted their views not so much as a matter of practical political conciliation or,
00:52:11.700
you know, just, you know, resignation, but rather as a matter of deep religious faith.
00:52:18.060
And so they- I want to know in light of what you're saying, I'm waiting to see the left-wing
00:52:23.480
source because it was almost universal that says, wow, America elected Hitler. Will, why don't they
00:52:30.980
own up to the staggering horror of calling him Hitler? So say the new republic had a picture of Hitler
00:52:39.180
in the face of Donald Trump. Will the new republic now say America elected Hitler? And if they think
00:52:46.260
that, why are they staying? Jews started to leave Germany when Hitler was elected.
00:52:53.860
Well, Richard Deere did say that he's going to Spain. We have Tim Walz, governor of Minnesota, now
00:52:58.240
entering the arena here. It's not a arena, I suppose.
00:53:00.920
Giant. This is another giant. Giant among men. Weirdly, he still looks happy and no one knows
00:53:06.260
why. Now, he's just kind of being weird. I do want to say, Dennis, you're a very large,
00:53:13.540
perhaps the largest on earth Jewish man. How many times have you been to Israel in your life?
00:53:17.720
25. Yeah. Tim Walz, Israel is an American ally. It's the ancestral homeland of your people. It's
00:53:26.520
the center of your religion. And Tim Walz has been 30 times to China, a country with, a country
00:53:36.400
that is not his ancestral homeland, that is not the center of his religion, and that currently has
00:53:44.760
hundreds of nuclear weapons pointed at us. And we've been engaged in a Cold War for 50 years.
00:53:50.100
Yeah, that's pretty devastating. It's a remarkable one.
00:53:53.600
Vice President Kamala Harris walking to the podium. We'll rejoin you as soon as the
00:54:14.760
Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, everyone.
00:54:44.760
Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon. Thank you all. Thank you, thank you. Thank you.
00:55:00.640
Thank you. So let me say, and I love you back. And I love you back. So let me say, my heart is full
00:55:13.220
today. My heart is full today, full of gratitude for the trust you have placed in me, full of love
00:55:24.000
for our country, and full of resolve. The outcome of this election is not what we wanted, not what we
00:55:34.300
fought for, not what we voted for. But hear me when I say, hear me when I say, the light of America's promise
00:55:47.020
will always burn bright. As long as we never give up, and as long as we keep fighting.
00:56:01.940
To my beloved Doug and our family, I love you so very much.
00:56:12.720
To President Biden and Dr. Biden, thank you for your faith and support. To Governor Walz and the
00:56:25.940
Walz family, I know your service to our nation will continue. And to my extraordinary team,
00:56:36.880
to the volunteers who gave so much of themselves, to the poll workers and the local election officials,
00:56:48.660
I thank you. I thank you all. Look, I am so proud of the race we ran and the way we ran it.
00:56:58.960
And the way we ran it. Over the 107 days of this campaign, we have been intentional about building
00:57:10.240
community and building coalitions, bringing people together from every walk of life and background,
00:57:19.820
united by love of country with enthusiasm and joy in our fight for America's future.
00:57:28.120
And we did it with the knowledge that we all have so much more in common than what separates us.
00:57:41.380
Now, I know folks are feeling and experiencing a range of emotions right now. I get it.
00:57:51.040
But we must accept the results of this election. Earlier today,
00:57:56.340
I spoke with President-elect Trump and congratulated him on his victory. I also told him
00:58:02.880
that we will help him and his team with their transition and that we will engage in a peaceful
00:58:12.020
A fundamental principle of American democracy is that when we lose an election, we accept the results.
00:58:26.560
That principle, as much as any other, distinguishes democracy from monarchy or tyranny.
00:58:34.340
And anyone who seeks the public trust must honor it. At the same time, in our nation, we owe loyalty
00:58:47.060
not to a president or a party, but to the Constitution of the United States.
00:58:53.280
And loyalty to our conscience and to our God. My allegiance to all three is why I am here
00:59:08.720
to say, while I concede this election, I do not concede the fight that fueled this campaign.
00:59:18.600
The fight, the fight for freedom, for opportunity, for fairness, and the dignity of all people.
00:59:35.140
A fight for the ideals at the heart of our nation. The ideals that reflect America at our best.
00:59:53.700
I will never give up the fight for a future where Americans can pursue their dreams, ambitions,
01:00:01.820
and aspirations. Where the women of America have the freedom to make decisions about their own body
01:00:09.400
and not have their government telling them what to do.
01:00:14.180
We will never give up the fight to protect our schools and our streets from gun violence.
01:00:22.180
And America, we will never give up the fight for our democracy, for the rule of law, for equal justice,
01:00:35.960
and for the sacred idea that every one of us, no matter who we are or where we start out,
01:00:45.000
has certain fundamental rights and freedoms that must be respected and upheld.
01:00:52.080
And we will continue to wage this fight in the voting booth, in the courts, and in the public square.
01:01:06.080
And we will also wage it in quieter ways, in how we live our lives.
01:01:13.860
By treating one another with kindness and respect.
01:01:19.020
By looking in the face of a stranger and seeing a neighbor.
01:01:25.420
By always using our strength to lift people up, to fight for the dignity that all people deserve.
01:01:52.520
Hard work can be joyful work, and the fight for our country is always worth it.
01:02:14.120
To the young people who are watching, it is okay to feel sad and disappointed.
01:02:27.460
On the campaign, I would often say, when we fight, we win.
01:02:50.180
Don't ever stop trying to make the world a better place.
01:03:01.680
When anyone tells you something is impossible because it has never been done before.
01:03:14.900
You have the capacity to do extraordinary good in the world.
01:03:21.020
And so to everyone who is watching, do not despair.
01:03:32.240
This is a time to organize, to mobilize, and to stay engaged for the sake of freedom and justice
01:03:47.680
and the future that we all know we can build together.
01:03:53.300
Look, many of you know I started out as a prosecutor, and throughout my career,
01:03:57.300
I saw people at some of the worst times in their lives, people who had suffered great harm
01:04:03.620
and great pain, and yet found within themselves the strength and the courage and the resolve
01:04:15.000
to take the stand to take a stand, to fight for justice, to fight for themselves, to fight for others.
01:04:43.580
There's an adage an historian once called a law of history, true of every society across the ages.
01:04:54.700
The adage is, only when it is dark enough can you see the stars.
01:05:04.180
I know many people feel like we are entering a dark time.
01:05:08.640
But for the benefit of us all, I hope that is not the case.
01:05:16.420
America, if it is, let us fill the sky with the light of a brilliant, brilliant billion of stars.
01:05:26.140
The light, the light of optimism, of faith, of truth, and service.
01:05:39.240
And may that work guide us even in the face of setbacks toward the extraordinary promise of the United States of America.
01:06:10.980
And may God bless the United States of America.
01:06:18.380
Well, folks, that is Kamala Harris, Vice President of the United States.
01:06:32.460
And, lady, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you.
01:06:35.920
I got to say, she was a little more naturalistic than usual.
01:06:40.000
Obviously, she's a permanent resident of the Uncanny Valley, so she could only take short trips outside the Uncanny Valley.
01:06:45.540
She seemed to make it almost to the border of the Uncanny Valley that time.
01:06:48.520
But, unfortunately, she was then dragged screaming back to the center of the Uncanny Valley for the finale of the speech,
01:06:53.520
where she talked about how there would be a billion points of light, not just a thousand, a billion, yay, perhaps a trillion, perhaps a trillion, trillion.
01:07:01.420
So many points of light because, you know, when it gets real dark, you can see the stars outside.
01:07:05.860
And that means that now that it's really dark, you can be a star, too, just like J-Lo or something.
01:07:17.220
And that little concession speech was also a big nothing burger.
01:07:19.780
So there are a few things she could have said that would have been useful, like, for example, you remember that time I said that my opponent's Hitler?
01:07:26.320
She said you're going to be fine, but it's very hard to square that with my opponent is Hitler and you need to vote to stop him.
01:07:37.300
It is very difficult to square all the things that she said on the campaign trail about the threats to America.
01:07:42.340
There will be giant internment camps, what Democrats were saying, that every woman in America was going to be put under the gun,
01:07:49.000
that essentially all rights would be stripped from you with the sort of inspirational rhetoric she was using right there.
01:07:56.440
If she had campaigned as this Kamala Harris, maybe she would have had a better shot.
01:07:59.160
If she hadn't tried the scare tactic of claiming that Donald Trump was Hitler with seven mustaches and more orange,
01:08:04.700
if she hadn't tried that, maybe people would have taken her more seriously, or maybe they wouldn't,
01:08:08.420
because it turns out that was just a bunch of platitudinous nonsense.
01:08:10.920
Again, in the end, the thing about Kamala Harris is nothing, because she is nothing.
01:08:17.900
That speech could have been given by 1,000 different Democrats, nay, a billion stars of Democrats.
01:08:23.740
It could have been any Democrat in the United States who gave that list of platitudes and bumper stickers
01:08:28.080
that mean absolutely nothing when ripped out of any sort of context or any sort of meaning.
01:08:32.700
And because that is the case, what you have to do is look behind the facade that is Kamala Harris of the Democratic Party.
01:08:40.320
Honestly, I would feel bad for her if I thought that she actually were a real human being.
01:08:44.220
But the fact that she is an NPC and that she effectively is just a stand-in for a party,
01:08:50.780
don't feel bad for the party that she represents, because that party is lying to you.
01:08:54.520
They put up these platitudes and these bumper stickers so you don't look through the veil.
01:08:58.820
They don't want you to see the actual policies they pursue.
01:09:01.340
This lady who says that she was a prosecutor, this same person suggested on a questionnaire from the ACLU
01:09:06.660
that taxpayers should fund the transition of illegal immigrant prisoners.
01:09:10.560
This same person who is talking about how to be friendly to the stranger who you just meet on the street,
01:09:15.940
that same person was personally attempting to bail rioters out of prison during the George Floyd riots in Minneapolis.
01:09:22.660
The same person who is telling you that young people, you ought to have hope in the future,
01:09:26.360
was also telling young people that they effectively don't have any hope in the future
01:09:29.340
unless they're having their student loan debt relieved by the grace of government.
01:09:36.820
The rhetoric is completely empty because Kamala Harris is completely empty,
01:09:41.540
It's why no one, I noticed that for all the talk in the media about how she was brat and joy
01:09:45.380
and a wonderful candidate, joy reads that she ran a flawless, flawless campaign.
01:09:50.220
That for all of that, ain't nobody talking about her running again in 2028.
01:09:54.320
If she's that great a candidate, they should be talking about that.
01:09:57.760
So I think we can all bid a fond farewell to Kamala Harris from the public scene.
01:10:01.700
We can bid a fond farewell to Tim Walls, who will be as memorable as Tim Kaine,
01:10:06.500
meaning that in about six months' time, you won't remember who he is,
01:10:09.020
except he sort of reminded one of Don Rickles in some sort of bizarre way.
01:10:15.060
And that's going to be the last you hear of Kamala Harris.
01:10:22.920
Can I say, I'm disappointed that she did not announce her re-election bid during that speech.
01:10:28.060
That's what I was hoping for out of the speech, and we didn't get it.
01:10:31.560
But maybe they'll run, like, they're just running progressively more unpleasant women with each election.
01:10:41.400
She did a relatively good job on the speech, but I think she did a good job because it's relatively easy for her to be gracious.
01:10:49.520
She had no business being the nominee in the first place.
01:10:54.000
She's already made it so much further in politics than she ever deserved.
01:10:57.260
So for her, I guess she can think, all right, well, you know, on this fluke, I almost became president.
01:11:01.880
I made it to be VP when I really had no business doing that.
01:11:07.520
It's not just the bizarre policies that those speeches cover up.
01:11:11.500
It's the open policy, the central policies, things like price controls, which is a Soviet idea,
01:11:17.060
the taxing the money that you've made on your house but haven't realized yet, which is pure robbery,
01:11:22.560
the misinformation idea that they are going to decide what misinformation is,
01:11:28.200
Those are central ideas to the Democrat Party, and they're completely anti-American and unconstitutional.
01:11:34.700
And it's, you know, we pick on these things, and we should, we pick on these things like, you know,
01:11:39.280
funding trans operations for people in federal prison.
01:11:43.080
But their open policies, their central policies are absolutely disastrous.
01:11:47.500
So I agree that the election was a repudiation of leftism, which is basically Matt's point at the top of the show.
01:11:54.760
And I agree with Ben that in many ways Kamala wasn't even a person running for president so much as she was a position,
01:12:01.440
you know, she occupied a space on behalf of the machine itself.
01:12:05.500
They needed something that looked approximately like a human to carry forth their ideas.
01:12:14.020
And had the person we just watched for the last 12 or 15 minutes run for president the last 120 days,
01:12:20.780
it's not clear to me that Donald Trump would have emerged victorious.
01:12:23.860
Because even though the speech was, even though the speech.
01:12:28.160
I know that you guys granted Donald Trump immense superpowers.
01:12:31.240
But that person we just watched on stage was credible.
01:12:41.700
they flip wildly between election and election on different policies.
01:12:45.280
I have never seen the person who just stood at that podium.
01:12:47.800
I, as a follower of American politics, much more closely than most, one might say,
01:12:52.440
I've never even met the person who just walked out to that podium.
01:13:03.320
She gave a speech that had a sort of political rabble-rousing kind of spirit,
01:13:08.580
but didn't actually say anything particularly divisive or particularly offensive.
01:13:13.700
I mean, certainly her Valium dealer either died last night, ran out of stock.
01:13:22.420
And that person might could have made a run for president.
01:13:25.060
A lot of people give their best speeches in concession because the pressure's off
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And I don't grant Donald Trump superpowers, but he did get shot in the head and fight back.
01:13:38.480
I think Donald Trump does a lot of good things.
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I become the most anti-Trump that I ever am when I'm sitting here hearing all the supernatural
01:13:48.580
The thing is, the reason that that wouldn't have worked is because at the beginning she
01:14:05.660
You can see all the tricks that are being played.
01:14:09.120
And so this whole attempt to portray herself as a sort of, you know, just family woman who
01:14:15.080
cares about the normie life, that doesn't work for more than five seconds at a time.
01:14:19.660
And the minute that you think about it, it really, really doesn't work.
01:14:22.840
And so, you know, again, I think it's sort of offensive when people play act at it.
01:14:33.680
You know, the one where I'm married and I have four kids and I live in a stable household
01:14:38.020
And I come home from a job and I take care of my kids.
01:14:43.540
Don't pretend that you're a member of my normie community while you're out partying a drag
01:14:47.760
queen story hour with your weird husband, Doug.
01:14:51.560
In fact, to offer up something actually kind about Donald Trump, I actually think that
01:14:56.120
part of his unique charm is that he never plays like a normie.
01:14:59.900
So when he goes to drive the garbage truck, he doesn't take off his $3,000 shirt and tie
01:15:08.900
When he goes to work at McDonald's, he is the famous, wealthy, self-aware, self-deprecating
01:15:17.160
It's not, he doesn't put on the costume of normalcy.
01:15:27.560
When I was down in the Rio Grande Valley with Cruz, the fact is, Jill Biden had visited
01:15:33.200
And that's the community where she made the famous breakfast tacos speech.
01:15:36.320
Where you're all, you had the wide variety of humanity, just like the wide variety of
01:15:43.880
They're still like, what the, what in the, like, what the, meanwhile, Donald Trump would
01:15:49.320
be like, Cinco de Mayo, here's my taco bowl, love it.
01:15:54.800
And they don't feel disrespected by that because guess what?
01:15:57.020
Donald Trump isn't pretending to be Mexican and he's not pretending that he knows anything
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He's like, yeah, I went down to the local restaurant.
01:16:05.780
After that, after the garbage truck stunt, he goes to a rally and he spends five minutes
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telling a hilarious off-the-cuff story about how ridiculous the whole thing was.
01:16:15.660
And how he was, he was afraid that he wouldn't be able to get up the, get up into the truck
01:16:21.020
And then he, but he keeps the vest on because it's slimming and he's fat.
01:16:24.020
You know, it's like, and you watch it, it's hilarious.
01:16:26.980
And you realize that, I mean, this is the difference.
01:16:29.860
There's so many differences between him and Kamala, but this especially, that Kamala is
01:16:33.340
totally incapable of that, both speaking off the cuff and being funny for five minutes
01:16:37.420
or for even one minute, but also to be self-deprecating in that way.
01:16:41.120
That's just very, here's an interesting question.
01:16:46.880
When, when Trump first stepped on the scene in 2015, 2016, he did not do self-deprecating.
01:16:52.240
He had that great line, that great line where he said, I'm supposed to do self-deprecating
01:16:57.020
Remember what the, but he also, he also had that moment.
01:17:00.620
He had that moment on the other podcast, the name of which escapes me, where he said, where
01:17:05.820
he said, when you invent an ugly name to call somebody, it's got to be like, phew, phew.
01:17:11.060
And I just thought like, that's, that is brilliant because he's actually telling you he's a character.
01:17:15.640
You know, he's playing the character to some degree and he's, he's happy to let you know
01:17:19.680
Here's a question that is worth posing to people in your life that loathed him and loved
01:17:31.920
And it just occurred to me now, ask them, do you think you know Donald Trump?
01:17:44.780
See, this is a great point, Dennis, because we're, we're, we're saying she did a good job
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on this speech, let, let's not confuse her with Pericles here.
01:17:51.280
We're saying she did a good job because she didn't sound deranged or drugged up or comatose.
01:17:58.260
And so I, I agree with your point, Jeremy, that she would have done better for sure.
01:18:02.100
If we saw that candidate, I think she would have done better to like 235 electoral votes.
01:18:07.980
You know, I don't think, I don't, I think she's getting a little bump out of that, but she
01:18:11.040
still didn't offer anything to your point, Ben.
01:18:13.500
She tried this at the beginning of the, of the campaign.
01:18:18.480
One thing that might've helped her in the campaign is if people could have pinned her
01:18:22.120
down on a policy position or an achievement ever once, even in her life.
01:18:27.380
But, but she tried to be all things to all people and without any actual convictions,
01:18:33.260
And I think the other thing that that happened is that when, even when she would tell stories
01:18:36.320
about herself, they would betray nothing about her.
01:18:39.520
She'd say she, she, she obviously relished in telling the story about how Joe Biden
01:18:43.520
called her and said that he was dropping out and how she said, are you okay, Joe?
01:18:48.080
Are you, that was her first, are you okay, Joe?
01:18:49.680
But she said, she was doing an interview and she's like, you want to know a detail that
01:19:06.360
And you know, something that you know about Donald Trump, you know why, for example,
01:19:11.600
Because he has actually told us why he doesn't drink or do drugs because of his brother.
01:19:15.760
And so like, like these are things that if you're talking about like personal, authentic
01:19:18.900
details, these are actual things that do matter.
01:19:21.800
I do want to raise a glass to the person who's even happier than we are today.
01:19:25.380
And that of course is Dr. Joe Biden, the greatest doctor in America.
01:19:29.980
Jill, if you're watching this, a tribute to you, madam, because let me just say you and your
01:19:34.840
husband did an excellent job of just putting that knife directly between Kamala Harris and
01:19:39.020
shoulder blades in the late stages of this campaign.
01:19:42.820
You and Donald J. Trump, you will meet on a beach in Zihuataneo after, where you will
01:19:49.000
be friends, lifelong friends one day, because it is, it is, I have to say, Jill hates Kamala,
01:19:58.620
And the happiest person today, I'm not sure is President Trump.
01:20:01.960
The happiest person today might in fact be Joseph Robinette Biden.
01:20:10.020
Kamala Harris, not the brightest bulb, is introduced to Dr. Jill Biden.
01:20:17.900
Dr. Jill Biden writes a prescription on a napkin to Kamala Harris.
01:20:23.920
Kamala Harris doesn't know that Dr. Jill Biden isn't a doctor.
01:20:28.620
Kamala Harris goes and gets that prescription filled.
01:20:31.900
She is stoned for 118 straight days, can't form a cogent sentence, drifts through her
01:20:39.500
Jeremy, I've noticed a sort of light motif to your commentary on this.
01:20:42.560
On the, on the day after losing, the prescription runs out.
01:20:46.920
She walks out on stage, not even sure how she came to be here.
01:20:50.120
Suddenly she's cogent and coherent, not still not smart, still thinks that Dr. Jill Biden is
01:20:59.540
You know, I will say as insulting as the narrative that the media ran out, that Joe Biden was
01:21:04.620
mentally competent, which was the most insulting narrative.
01:21:06.900
And I think it really did have a market effect on this campaign.
01:21:09.080
Like if Joe Biden had been the campaign since, if, if Kamala Harris had been the candidate
01:21:12.940
since 2022 or 2023, this is a very different looking race.
01:21:16.220
I think the fact that Joe Biden did stick around that long and that that lie was promulgated
01:21:21.240
And that she, and that she contributed to that.
01:21:22.760
And that she contributed and maintained that lie till today.
01:21:24.920
We'll still say that behind closed doors, man's doing back handsprings and such that,
01:21:28.520
that, that, that the other lie that I can't, there, there's so many lies about Kamala
01:21:33.100
Harris and her, and her entire campaign that I cannot abide.
01:21:35.500
And obviously the one personally that I cannot abide is Doug Emhoff Jew.
01:21:39.100
Like if I have to hear Doug Emhoff as an emissary of the Jewish people one more time, I'm going
01:21:43.760
to, my head will turn 360 like Linda Blair in The Exorcist.
01:21:49.020
But the, the real lie that they kept saying is they kept telling us how qualified and
01:22:00.600
And I know Donald Trump got ripped up and down for saying that she was a low IQ person.
01:22:06.960
She's not an ADIQ person, but this is not a person who's two standard deviations above
01:22:12.100
You watch her speak and she's doing an impression of what a middle brow person thinks a very
01:22:19.600
And that lie was so transparent and so obvious.
01:22:22.440
And they kept saying that she was intellectually outclassing him.
01:22:25.020
And all you got was just this, just like pap and pap and memorized pap.
01:22:32.740
Donald Trump, for all of his flaws, the man has an innate grasp of important things.
01:22:38.880
And it turns out that an innate grasp of important things is significantly more important than
01:22:43.220
your ability to regurgitate platitudes that you memorized in the back room before a debate.
01:22:48.720
The other lie is that there's one thing that I'm the only person in American public life
01:22:53.520
who I heard talk about the reality of how our enemies perceived us elevating a woman of
01:22:59.340
no merit to run the world's sole global superpower.
01:23:02.520
It's amazing to me that we just ran this race and no one talked about what it would mean for
01:23:09.620
There's another unique point of view that I heard during this race.
01:23:12.340
And it came from Matt Walsh, who is the only person I've heard have the audacity to point
01:23:17.700
out that she is not a parent, that she gave speech after speech after speech, talking about
01:23:24.260
how one of the hardest things she's done in her life was parent children, which she never
01:23:30.420
She married a man with a 20-year-old, which is an adult, and a 15-year-old, which I know
01:23:36.740
the world's a little different now than it used to be.
01:23:38.400
See, my parents cannot tell you what I did from the ages of 14 to today, right?
01:23:50.040
I'm not trying to take away any contributions that she may have made in their lives.
01:23:53.800
But when you tell someone that parenting is the hardest thing you'll ever do, that is
01:24:02.320
He was also, he wouldn't have said this, but it's also true that women grow wise raising
01:24:08.440
children in the same way men grow wise working.
01:24:11.200
And that is really what, where women, why older women, you talk to them and they don't
01:24:17.420
They don't have to think in the same way men do.
01:24:18.920
And they say things and you go like, oh yeah, that's right.
01:24:20.940
That actually is telling me something I didn't see before.
01:24:26.640
It doesn't matter that you have a leader with no children.
01:24:29.460
It matters if you have too many leaders with no children.
01:24:31.480
I mean, this is what makes, this is what invests you and gives you flesh in the future.
01:24:35.360
And I think that that, that actually is an important fact about her.
01:24:40.900
And I'm not saying it is because of, she doesn't have children, but it's because she
01:24:47.460
I'm not saying also though, though I do think the left makes a point when they say her sex
01:24:54.860
I know plenty of women who wouldn't vote for a woman to be president.
01:24:58.340
And it's politically incorrect to say so, but there are plenty of women who feel that
01:25:03.680
Because they think men and women are different.
01:25:10.740
Thatcher is a PM or I don't know, Empress Maria Teresia or Queen Elizabeth, you know,
01:25:15.500
so it really, and, and women possessing, you know.
01:25:18.100
Although Queen Elizabeth wasn't actually a head of state.
01:25:25.060
But also grant the Thatcher exception, grant the Maria Teresia exception, grant, those are
01:25:29.960
exceptions, you know, and she ain't, Kamala ain't no Margaret Thatcher.
01:25:35.960
At least, at least when our enemies around the world who have no respect whatsoever for
01:25:39.680
women, who do not believe that women can be strong.
01:25:43.280
The Chinese don't believe that a female president is going to be a credible threat against them.
01:25:47.900
Vladimir Putin doesn't believe that a female president can be a credible threat against
01:25:51.160
The Iranians don't believe that a female president can be a credible threat against them.
01:25:54.660
At least when they look at Hillary Clinton, who did stare them down as secretary of state,
01:25:58.880
whose husband had been president and deployed the United States military, who was kind of
01:26:05.140
At least when they looked at her, there was, it was possible, they would at least have to
01:26:10.660
They don't look at Kamala Harris and feel any of that.
01:26:13.680
And I'm sorry, the world doesn't work based on American values, on very, by the way,
01:26:20.940
The world works on strength and is run by bad men.
01:26:24.600
And bad men don't look at Kamala Harris and think, oh, I wouldn't test her.
01:26:28.580
They look at Kamala Harris and think, I am taking Taiwan.
01:26:32.500
And by the way, she doesn't understand the thing you're saying, right?
01:26:36.240
One of the reports that came out like a week and a half before the election was that
01:26:40.260
report in the New York Times that said that very early on she started receiving intelligence
01:26:44.680
And one of the first things she did when she read the intelligence briefings is she thought
01:26:48.360
that the intelligence briefers were using gendered language to describe female leaders
01:26:53.540
And so she literally called up the members of the intelligence community and asked them
01:26:58.180
why they were using sexist language to describe female leaders of foreign countries.
01:27:02.540
And this led to the formation of a DEI committee in the intelligence community in order to
01:27:07.960
It turned out, by the way, they weren't using gendered language.
01:27:10.320
They still built up an actual structure inside the intelligence community to make sure the
01:27:16.140
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I have a friend in New York who is a devout Jew who is as shattered by October 7th as
01:30:25.060
Ben, who was, I would say, he was shattered by October 7th.
01:30:38.940
So I've told her what I think in very mild mannered terms.
01:30:43.900
And she doesn't believe me because she's got that Democrat thing.
01:30:47.700
So I said to her today, this is going to be a great presidency.
01:30:53.500
Watch what this president does, not what the media says he does.
01:30:59.440
And just tell me if he's not better for the things that you care deeply about.
01:31:04.420
She's almost been all Israel since this has happened.
01:31:12.700
If it hasn't worked already, I have doubts that it's going to work in the future.
01:31:16.260
Again, the reason I don't believe you is not because you are innately non-credible,
01:31:24.920
The real reason I have trouble believing that is if somebody is truly shattered by October
01:31:32.440
If it changed your entire personality, I don't know how you can look yourself in the mirror
01:31:36.500
and look at what Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have done to the state of Israel in the middle
01:31:40.460
of an existential war on seven fronts, and then say that Donald Trump, the most pro-Israel
01:31:44.860
president in American history, bar none, there are no close competitors, that you are so
01:31:51.120
bewildered and befuddled by Donald Trump that you have to vote for Kamala Harris, who couldn't
01:31:54.720
bring herself to even say that Israel was not coming a genocide when people were protesting
01:32:00.200
Yeah, she gets all her news from places like the New York Times, and so she thinks, oh,
01:32:06.820
And the New York Times was not shattered by October 7th, so she gets her news from something
01:32:16.100
But that's the part I find bewildering, because I don't know how you could read the New York
01:32:18.900
Times, which runs stories that, shall we say, are mildly non-credible about things like
01:32:24.880
Israeli soldiers shooting children in the head for sport, right?
01:32:28.540
They ran a front page story suggesting that's what Israeli soldiers were doing.
01:32:31.340
And then they ran x-rays that were clearly not credible x-rays, along with that story.
01:32:37.860
Every Orthodox Jew that I know canceled the New York Times in 1997.
01:32:42.960
Because that was the year that they ran on the front page of the New York Times a photo
01:32:47.540
showing an Israeli soldier who was defending a kid who was having the crap kicked out of
01:32:54.200
And they ran the story, there's a bleeding kid, soldier, and they ran the caption underneath
01:32:59.640
the picture suggesting that it was an Israeli soldier beating a Palestinian child.
01:33:03.520
They ran it on the front page of the New York Times.
01:33:05.780
And every single Jew that I know, except for Dennis, who has to read it for informational
01:33:08.940
purposes, every single Jew that I know canceled the New York Times if they cared about that.
01:33:13.460
The New York Times has been a laughingstock in the Orthodox Jewish community.
01:33:15.700
But she's not getting that she's not that into news.
01:33:18.380
By the way, I should point out that Donald Trump did great with the Jews this election.
01:33:26.980
He won in excess of 43% of the vote in New York.
01:33:30.600
One third of New York City went for Donald, New York City went for Donald Trump in this
01:33:35.740
There were trucks that were broadcasting songs in Yiddish about voting.
01:33:39.420
I showed one to Knowles before the actual, but it was amazing.
01:33:42.300
They're going through Lakewood, New Jersey with a school bus blasting out in Yiddish.
01:33:47.700
I want to say that this is a place where I think you have a little bit of a blind spot then.
01:33:53.840
And it's because you have a very high expectation of people generally, and particularly have a
01:34:02.220
very high expectation of your fellow Jews, the truth is most people are only beginning
01:34:09.140
to wake up to the fact that the media is not credible.
01:34:14.920
And it is incredibly hard to change your priors.
01:34:18.780
I mean, it's almost impossible for a person to change their priors.
01:34:22.200
It requires the one thing that humans are the most loathe to do, which is admit that they
01:34:28.520
And I'm not exaggerating when I say people literally take their own lives because that
01:34:35.160
Than changing their view of themselves and their view of the world.
01:34:41.540
I don't think it does that much good to name them because we have had relationships with
01:34:45.540
them in the past, but we have friends who act today as though Donald Trump were never president
01:34:56.360
There is no, there is, they are not impacted at all by the actual record of the man being
01:35:03.060
They're, they're still reacting to him as though it were the year 2016 because they came to
01:35:09.260
By the way, I came to that same conclusion in 2016.
01:35:11.920
I wrote a series of letters to my friend Dennis Prager in 2016.
01:35:19.200
The presidency of Donald Trump was the test of the theories that I put forward in 2016.
01:35:26.420
And I can tell you how that's impacted how I see Donald Trump.
01:35:30.400
I want to react to your point about people not giving up what they have held, which is,
01:35:35.460
that's the great book, The God That Failed, about people who believed in communism and
01:35:40.300
then saw that it was the greatest mass murder movement in the history of humanity.
01:35:45.540
So, uh, what people need to understand, and I, this is the central message of my, of my
01:35:53.020
life's work has been the consequences of secularism.
01:35:59.840
That's been the most constant theme of all of my work.
01:36:03.820
And the answer is that people do not stop being religious.
01:36:10.540
Secular religions simply substitute for Judaism and Christianity.
01:36:25.560
And, uh, a, a, a, a, an environmentalist is as likely to give up the belief that the world
01:36:32.700
is about to implode from global warming as a Christian is going to give up belief in Christ.
01:36:47.580
I don't, they say it's from GK Chesterton, but we have no proof that he said it, but he
01:36:53.800
But whoever said it, when people stop believing in God, they don't believe in nothing.
01:37:02.180
And it's only secular people who say men give birth.
01:37:06.600
Not all secular people say it, but only secular people say it.
01:37:11.380
Why that alone doesn't keep people or convince people that God is necessary, even if you don't
01:37:19.260
believe, you don't know there's a God, I don't care.
01:37:21.440
I want you to understand what Douglas Murray, who was an agnostic, understands the end of
01:37:29.380
You know, the thing that I'll say also to you, Jeremy, is you're right.
01:37:33.320
I do hold religious people and my fellow Orthodox Jews to a higher standard.
01:37:38.240
And that's because they're supposedly holding themselves to a higher standard.
01:37:41.660
So there is a higher burden on you if you're a religious person to hold up the facts of the
01:37:47.100
world against the religious values that you claim to hold central to you.
01:37:50.240
You know, the thing as a religious person that you are called upon to do is to place aside
01:37:56.360
your personal valuation of particular situations in favor of the values that are actually eternal.
01:38:02.720
And so if you are having such a hard time giving up your perception that the New York
01:38:05.980
Times is a solid and wonderful newspaper, they are unwilling to see through that because
01:38:10.380
for some reason that holds an identity to you in some way.
01:38:14.860
No matter how many times your fellow Orthodox Jews are saying to you, for example, look at what
01:38:19.580
he's actually doing, just look at it, then that betrays a lack of, it does betray a lack of principle
01:38:28.480
So listen, ignorance is a defense, but at a certain point, ignorance is no longer a defense, right?
01:38:32.620
Of course, I'm defending Drew's friend whom I do not know or know anything about only because
01:38:40.380
I'm a Zionist shill and I assume that at some point, at some point I'll be paid for my defense
01:38:48.920
But no, all I'm saying is that the very fact that she said to Drew today, okay, I'll do
01:38:56.740
that, means that in this one individual case, there's some hope.
01:39:00.720
I don't think that we can say that this is a person for whom we can conclude that ignorance
01:39:05.780
I think this is a person who possibly is in the process of waking up to their ignorance
01:39:10.320
and it's difficult particularly, I bring this up sometimes on the show, right?
01:39:15.560
It's difficult for people like us who spend our time advocating for values.
01:39:20.940
And when you advocate for values, you're necessarily advocating for black and white.
01:39:31.080
But no humans live within the realm of absolutes.
01:39:33.620
Humans live in the very, very messy thing called reality.
01:39:36.800
And in the messy place called reality, when we say, I only say this for the audience, you
01:39:42.780
But when we say, for example, you know, if you want to have a successful life, it's
01:39:47.540
There's really only three things you need to know.
01:39:58.580
But Ben has cited this study many times that the three most determinative things, don't
01:40:06.540
But most people to whom we're speaking, if they're not already living the life that we're
01:40:12.160
trying to call them to, have already failed at one or two or three of those things.
01:40:16.620
And so we have to make sure that while we're advocating for our set of values, we leave
01:40:20.320
room for people to live in the messy world and draw near to, because by the way, we also
01:40:31.520
And we have maybe different points of view about exactly how that's accomplished.
01:40:33.920
But that's the only place where I'm pushing back.
01:40:37.880
And pushing back in particular, because I know that I think that you, in some ways,
01:40:43.020
because of your superpowers, in some ways, because of them, it can be hard for you sometimes
01:40:48.200
to see that mere mortals sometimes are striving towards something, because...
01:40:53.120
But I will say that I think particularly because the last year has been what the last year
01:40:58.180
It is an angering thing that people have not woken up earlier.
01:41:03.160
I mean, again, I hope that your friend really holds by that.
01:41:09.760
I hope that the whole American people take this opportunity, frankly, to reconsider the
01:41:13.860
inevitability and the reality of Donald Trump's second presidency and stop looking at it through
01:41:18.280
the prism of MSNBC's linguistic inability to understand Donald Trump and start looking
01:41:25.280
Because I think 51% of the population in the United States already concluded their life was
01:41:31.560
A lot of people, even on the left, have said that voters paid attention to the fact that
01:41:37.300
And I hope that your friend will make the check payable to Jeremy D.
01:41:44.240
Yeah, we also just can't underestimate the extent to which most anti-Trump, maybe not
01:41:48.520
your friend, but the extent to which many anti-Trump people have just organized their
01:41:53.560
whole identity around the simple fact of being anti-Trump.
01:41:57.720
And, you know, we talk about the cult of personality around Trump, but there's this, like, there's
01:42:05.320
this, on the other side, there's a strange sort of answer to that where, which I'm not
01:42:12.460
sure we've ever seen that before, around a particular person where you've got millions
01:42:16.940
of people who find their identity in hating that one individual person.
01:42:21.280
Well, there is a deep religious phenomenon going on, which is, like so much of liberalism,
01:42:26.480
just an ape and an inversion of Christianity, which is in Christianity, especially drawing
01:42:31.200
from the Neoplatonic tradition that comes up through the scholastics in Christianity,
01:42:35.660
going back to St. Augustine even, there's this notion that existence is good.
01:42:42.540
We're not living in a Manichean dualist world where there's the good force and the bad force
01:42:49.380
And evil, in the Christian view, is the privation of the good.
01:42:53.460
In modern liberal ideology, there really is no absolute good.
01:43:01.000
There is the pure incarnation of evil in Hitler, where you could say even Hitler is not Hitler,
01:43:08.040
When they say Trump is Hitler, they're saying evil is evil.
01:43:11.580
He's the, he's the, but that is, that is an inversion of the Christian view.
01:43:15.360
There have been three major horror movies that came out in the last year in which there was
01:43:22.760
I'd never, I'd never seen, even one of them was a sequel to The Exorcist.
01:43:25.820
There was, they were possessed, but there was no God.
01:43:30.460
And you could bring in all these other religious traditions to exercise them.
01:43:33.200
Yes, any religious tradition was as good as any other.
01:43:35.860
I've never seen that in a horror movie before, where the evil is pure and the evil exists.
01:43:46.640
I'm going to ask three questions from dailywire.com members.
01:43:49.960
These are people who support the work that we do, and I think receive good value from it.
01:43:54.300
For example, access to all the shows, access to the films made by, well, only Matt Walsh
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You can go over to dailywire.com, slash subscribe, become a member.
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It'll never, I'll never get tired of saying it.
01:44:16.120
And there'll never be a 48th, so this promo code will last for a thousand years.
01:44:23.280
He promised me that we would win so much, I'd be tired of winning.
01:44:34.560
So, as a preamble to this first question, I want to tell you about the most moving moment
01:44:42.820
Actually, Caleb experienced it, and then independently, I experienced it.
01:44:45.860
I think Caleb experienced the actual moment of it, and I experienced a version of it a few
01:45:03.280
Because, so we probably all had a moment of this.
01:45:06.460
The whole thing was happening, and our dear friend, Siaka, Black Jeremy, walked up and
01:45:13.000
said, he put his arms around me, and he said, I'm not going to prison.
01:45:21.580
Siaka did not engage in any violence on January 6th, but he was there.
01:45:26.020
He had his home raided by the FBI in Southern California two years ago.
01:45:33.960
He had his home raided two years ago in Southern California, and then an entire year after having
01:45:40.620
his home raided by armed agents, he flew out here for the premiere of Lady Ballers, which
01:45:45.120
he had played a small and very, very funny role in.
01:45:48.260
And when he flew home, they pulled him out of line at the airport in LA and arrested him.
01:45:53.720
They had had years, three years to have done this.
01:45:58.520
In fact, they had raided his home and still not, and they arrested him at that moment.
01:46:01.920
And so here was Siaka realizing, and I say this to say, there are genuine, genuine consequences
01:46:09.740
And here was a man realizing in real time what this means for him as a person.
01:46:15.540
And the question from the member is, do you think Trump will pardon everyone from January
01:46:20.020
6th and the people that were jailed for praying in front of the abortion clinics?
01:46:23.880
I think he, if he doesn't, that would be the worst possible sign that, that he's not going
01:46:31.200
to use this opportunity to advance his agenda in any, in any meaningful way.
01:46:40.820
He might not, pardon every single, there may have been people who actually committed acts
01:46:44.500
There were people, there were people on January 6th who deserve to be in jail.
01:46:47.240
And there's an important point to make, looking down the barrel that we have a Republican
01:46:53.840
White House, Senate, and probably House, when the member asked this question about people
01:47:00.420
who are jailed for praying in front of abortion clinics, they're talking about a law called
01:47:04.840
the FACE Act, which was passed in the 90s, it was under Bill Clinton, it was a dishonest
01:47:09.340
law from the start, because it said it was going to protect access to abortion clinics
01:47:13.380
on one end, and places of worship on the other.
01:47:15.820
And that second part was completely fake, it was contrived to get the law through, that
01:47:20.560
is not what the law is used for, the law is used to punish pro-lifers.
01:47:24.000
And pregnancy, pregnancy centers too, it's supposed to protect.
01:47:27.840
And they've been burned down and nothing has been done.
01:47:29.100
Of course, and never, it is only used to go after pro-lifers who demonstrate peacefully
01:47:35.780
And I am calling on Republican lawmakers in the House and in the Senate, and on President
01:47:41.160
Trump, who's the most pro-life president we've ever had, please put all your political capital
01:47:46.660
that you got behind repealing the FACE Act, which is one of the most unjust laws in the
01:47:52.380
It's beautiful, innocent people, 75-year-old women, who all they do is pray peacefully in
01:47:58.260
front of abortion clinics, are sitting in prison right now, in nasty, dangerous prisons, because
01:48:04.620
It's one of the gravest injustices in the country.
01:48:07.220
Every Republican lawmaker, get up when you're sworn into office and repeal the FACE Act,
01:48:13.680
Absolutely, but before that is repealed and that needs to happen, Trump also just needs
01:48:21.200
There are old women who are right now going to federal prison for praying in front of abortion
01:48:26.240
And so that's something that, and I truly believe he'll do this almost right away.
01:48:31.100
How do you think, I love asking questions, how do you think Merrick Garland will be regarded
01:48:43.400
He turned out to be a very bad human being, and that was, the portrayal of him when he
01:48:52.060
was nominated for the Supreme Court was angelic, and he turned out to be diabolic.
01:48:57.780
Well, it may even be the case that he was a better man.
01:49:15.620
And it seems to me that Merrick Garland gave in to this hatred.
01:49:19.680
So it's one of these great philosophic questions to which there may be an answer.
01:49:26.360
Can you know anyone, including yourself, until you're tested?
01:49:36.320
Yes, and it goes to my fundamental problem, as we've been discussing this of late, too,
01:49:41.320
with Christians in America in particular, with evangelicals who abstain from the political
01:49:47.680
process to maintain their vision of their own purity.
01:49:54.880
That doesn't mean that God punishes those whom he loves.
01:49:57.740
It doesn't mean that God breaks those whom he loves.
01:50:02.880
I think it's a New Testament idea, but that a bruised reed he will not break.
01:50:14.820
So I think that, no, you cannot know yourself until you are tested.
01:50:18.360
And I believe that it is the responsibility of a man to go out into the world where the
01:50:24.740
And if you abstain from life to maintain your idyllic view of yourself, what you're actually
01:50:30.720
doing is saying, I would rather not be tested and see myself as good than be tested and find
01:50:37.940
out, or probably more accurately, it's not be tested and find out.
01:50:44.660
You know, it's an interesting paradox that, as Jordan said last night, and this is absolutely
01:50:49.020
true, the left looks at every relationship in terms of power.
01:50:53.940
And yet they never question what it's going to do to people to have the power, for instance,
01:50:58.080
to redistribute wealth, which is, to me, the great flaw in Marxism is that there's this
01:51:02.480
entity, the state that is going to do all these things, but nobody's going to have any
01:51:06.180
And, you know, the minute you give people that power, they become corrupt.
01:51:11.100
So in terms of tests, I'd like to share something that I addressed to Christians about, yeah,
01:51:17.500
a year ago, after October 7th, when a certain eruption, I don't want to overstate how much,
01:51:23.500
but a certain eruption of anti-Semitism took place in the most pro-Jewish, non-Jewish country
01:51:27.940
in the history of the world since perhaps Darius's Persia.
01:51:31.100
And what I'd said was, a lot of, not a lot, but I'm reading reports of Jews taking down
01:51:40.980
The mezuzah is this little box containing a little part of the Torah, love God with all
01:51:47.700
your heart, and the credo of Judaism, hero Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.
01:51:51.620
And I said, instead of Jews taking it down, why don't Christians put up a mezuzah on their
01:52:00.240
And I want to just say, and I'm almost holding back tears, the number of Christians who sent
01:52:07.460
me pictures of themselves standing in front of their door with a mezuzah, and this is a
01:52:13.220
perfect, the Daily Wire is a perfect vehicle for that project.
01:52:18.280
This, this, you're not defying the Gestapo, you're not risking your life or limb, but you
01:52:25.620
are doing something heroic, just putting that little box on your doorpost.
01:52:30.800
I know several people who started wearing Jewish stars, which-
01:52:35.960
Patty, an incredibly devout Catholic and actress and Nashville resident and longtime friend
01:52:41.300
of all of ours, I think, really took up that, yep, took up that cause.
01:52:45.160
It was, it's basically, it's not in any way for a Christian a violation of anything.
01:52:52.800
Love God and love your neighbor, the two great principles.
01:52:58.340
Instead of putting the mezuzah up, could I just wear a giant strimal?
01:53:08.460
Or put a picture of you wearing one instead of the mezuzah.
01:53:13.900
What concess, this is actually, this is my favorite question of all the questions asked
01:53:17.440
by dailywire.com members during the broadcast today.
01:53:20.620
What concessions should be made by Republicans to keep this level of participation and support
01:53:27.840
Essentially, Donald Trump picked up enormous gains among non-traditionally conservative voters.
01:53:37.740
It's what continued compromises should be made to keep that coalition.
01:53:43.540
He spoke in a somewhat mealy-mouthed way on abortion, which was the one issue the Democrats
01:53:48.940
Other than that, and I don't think he conceded much, if anything, in principle.
01:53:54.060
Bobby Kennedy was scandalized by his own party.
01:53:59.200
The people on the left were just, the left had gone too far.
01:54:04.180
And so they started to make this turn of their heads and their minds to the right.
01:54:10.900
Just as, I don't know, when I was younger, I was less conservative.
01:54:13.540
I was always kind of conservative, but I've become deeper in my conservatism over time.
01:54:18.340
Let's welcome Kennedy or Elon, wherever they are.
01:54:21.240
But let's invite them to come a little deeper into conservatism.
01:54:24.900
I think, you know, they're on our team now, and team politics is important.
01:54:29.760
So that's very idealistic, and I think almost totally wrong.
01:54:32.760
So I think the reason I say that is because Donald Trump went through the Republican national
01:54:37.960
platform and stripped three quarters of the policy out of it.
01:54:40.840
And he forcibly dissociated from Project 2025 and then said publicly a week before the
01:54:47.500
election, anyone whose name was in Project 2025 could not be part of the administration.
01:54:51.860
So the idea that he didn't make concessions in order to win a broader coalition is not
01:54:55.600
Now, I think the answer to the question is, it's situational.
01:54:59.160
Okay, so one of the things that I think is really important, particularly in our line
01:55:02.040
of work, is to separate the principled from the pragmatic.
01:55:07.380
And when you are in the practice of politics, the principle has to be tempered by pragmatism.
01:55:12.300
So it's our job to say how far politicians are straying from principle.
01:55:15.860
And then it's their job to try and get 80% of the pie.
01:55:19.260
And so the question is, how much do you have to give up in order to continue to receive
01:55:26.600
It was a landslide in the terms that we use for presidential elections.
01:55:30.680
I mean, like, normally, if you say 51-48, that's now considered a presidential landslide.
01:55:35.140
But in any other area of American life, if you said that you had a room of
01:55:37.360
100 people and 51 voted one way and 48 voted the other, you wouldn't go, my God, that's
01:55:42.200
In other words, this is a very, very tightly divided country still, clearly, right?
01:55:46.740
We've had three consecutive, incredibly tight elections.
01:55:49.540
And if you go back before Barack Obama, you had a very tight election in 2004 and a very
01:55:56.060
What that means is William F. Buckley, who is now widely derided for reasons that escape
01:56:03.980
William F. Buckley once said that the purpose of a primary is to select the most plausible
01:56:14.660
Who is the, what is the most conservative thing that you can push and still win?
01:56:19.140
It sounds like ugly to us because we're in the business of principle.
01:56:21.920
And it should sound ugly because pragmatism is dirtying.
01:56:25.240
It's what you said about, you know, religious people getting involved in politics.
01:56:27.800
It means that you have to make concessions and bargains with things that you don't like.
01:56:31.300
Listen, as you say, I'm, I'm, Jeremy and I are exactly the same on the pro-life issue.
01:56:35.120
I'd love a candidate who came out and tomorrow said constitutional amendment banning all abortion
01:56:40.040
Also, that is a great way to alienate Elon Musk and alienate Joe Rogan and all the people
01:56:45.460
who voted for, if, if, if Donald Trump had run on a platform that we all approve of socially,
01:56:51.000
Like traditional marriage, for example, traditional, let's say he went back to like the 2004 Republican
01:56:57.800
Even up to, even if you took the George W. Bush position with exceptions for rape and incest,
01:57:07.360
The, the entire, the Republican party just jettisoned two thirds of its economic program
01:57:14.640
The Tea Party was all about government spending in national debt.
01:57:17.260
Donald Trump spent the most money of any president in history up until Joe Biden.
01:57:21.380
And, and so that was jettisoned in order to win votes.
01:57:24.440
Pretending that didn't happen doesn't make the thing go away.
01:57:26.620
And I think, and I also think it's dangerous to pretend that it did because then you actually
01:57:30.360
are sacrificing the principle, but you didn't change the principle.
01:57:33.300
The principle is in fact being negotiated in order to achieve the thing.
01:57:41.360
I think though, there's a little idealism in this view of things too, though, because
01:57:44.820
we, we all remember the halcyon days of the Tea Party, the Tea Party in office did not accomplish
01:57:51.380
Republicans have not cut spending since Calvin Coolidge, by my, by my calculation.
01:57:56.280
So, you know, the point I'm making is that the revealed preferences of the American people
01:58:01.720
Here's where the American people are by pretty much every poll statistic.
01:58:04.500
And regardless, this is not about what we want.
01:58:09.700
If you were to take like a national average, okay, because we're doing national elections,
01:58:14.860
New York's going to have abortions till they're nine.
01:58:16.740
But like on the average, the American people are somewhere between 12 and 15 weeks on abortion
01:58:21.360
If you're looking at, if you're looking at entitlement spending, the American people
01:58:28.260
They want that maintained and they get very, very scared.
01:58:30.640
Anytime anyone talks about a serious entitlement reform, including smart ones, like the one
01:58:33.920
that should have been done in 2005, when George W. Bush essentially recommended, you know,
01:58:38.040
for all the hatred we have, his proposal on social security would have made this country
01:58:43.960
He suggested that we just take what you were putting into social security and put in a private
01:58:46.980
savings account that would have been invested in the stock market.
01:58:51.460
The stock market is currently riding at 43,000, the Dow Jones Industrial Average.
01:58:55.100
I don't remember what it was riding at in 2005.
01:59:06.740
They want some abortion restrictions, but not tons of abortion restrictions.
01:59:10.460
They don't seem to care too much about gay marriage anymore.
01:59:14.180
They want school choice and they want the border closed.
01:59:26.320
They want a strong American military that deters war and prevents foreign actors from doing bad
01:59:39.280
I mean, and it'll be interesting to see, by the way, I do wonder when it comes to mass
01:59:42.760
deportations, whether the revealed preference of the American people will be different from
01:59:48.100
Because I think when most people think mass deportations, they're thinking of the Venezuelan
01:59:51.260
gang members who are taking over apartment buildings in Colorado.
01:59:53.740
They're not thinking of, you know, the gardeners in Los Angeles.
01:59:59.300
That's why he's not going to do it, by the way.
02:00:00.360
The other thing we're really fortunate about is we need some structural changes that nobody
02:00:06.480
You know, the whole thing about the bureaucracy, about Chevron, those are huge, huge deals.
02:00:11.080
Because they, you know, I think of Trump, you know, before the running back, I hate to
02:00:16.960
Before the running back can take off, some 300-pound guy has got to knock the lineman out
02:00:26.920
You know, you should teach this stuff to Tim Walton.
02:00:29.820
You know, when you're running a pick six play...
02:00:31.920
No, I think this is the moment when the future of conservatism, the structure of the future
02:00:44.160
I would like to read one thing to everyone and then ask Dennis Prager a question before
02:00:55.100
But I suspect you should grab your leftist here's tumblers.
02:00:59.340
From the official Barack Obama Twitter account, here is our official statement on the results
02:01:10.540
Statement by President and Mrs. Obama on the 2024 presidential election.
02:01:14.600
They've decided to put out a written statement because, as we know, they're very camera shy.
02:01:18.260
Over the last few weeks and through Election Day, millions of Americans cast their votes,
02:01:26.020
not just for president, but for leaders at every level.
02:01:28.780
Now the results are in, and we want to congratulate President Trump and Senator Vance on their victory.
02:01:33.740
This is obviously not the outcome we had hoped for, given our profound disagreements
02:01:37.480
with the Republican ticket on a whole host of issues.
02:01:39.840
But living in a democracy is about recognizing that our point of view won't always win out
02:01:43.700
and being willing to accept the peaceful transfer of power.
02:01:46.960
Michelle and I couldn't be prouder of Vice President Harris and Governor Walz
02:01:49.980
to extraordinary public servants who ran a remarkable campaign.
02:01:54.340
And we will always be grateful to the staff and volunteers who poured their heart and soul
02:01:58.140
into electing public servants they truly believed in.
02:02:02.740
As I said on the campaign trail, America has been through a lot over the last few years,
02:02:08.960
from an historic pandemic and price hikes resulting from that pandemic to rapid change
02:02:13.220
and the feeling a lot of folks have that no matter how hard they work,
02:02:18.000
Those conditions have created headwinds for Democratic incumbents around the world,
02:02:21.740
and last night showed that America is not immune.
02:02:24.160
The good news is these problems are solvable, but only if we listen to each other,
02:02:27.460
and only if we abide by the core constitutional principles and democratic norms that made this
02:02:33.500
In a country as big and diverse as ours, we won't always see eye to eye on everything,
02:02:37.340
but progress requires us to extend good faith and grace, even to people with whom we deeply
02:02:42.680
That's how we've come this far, and it's how we'll keep building a country that is more
02:02:46.080
fair and more just and more equal and more free.
02:02:52.620
I want to say that this is a very gracious statement,
02:02:55.620
much like her very gracious statement, probably written by the same person,
02:02:59.740
and it is obvious that they are setting up their next move.
02:03:05.260
They're saying, we believe in the peaceful transfer of power, which is obviously a repudiation
02:03:09.540
of Trump, and they're saying that we have to abide by the Constitution.
02:03:14.820
They are obviously prepping to shift toward a full assault against Donald Trump for being
02:03:22.660
If it's not the first time they've trotted out this particular play, I don't think it
02:03:31.680
I know that's not in the Constitution, but practically twice as in it.
02:03:35.200
Well, the biggest problem that they've got is that what are the things that he's going
02:03:38.680
to do that they're going to claim are anti-democratic?
02:03:43.800
If that's your best shot, my dude, I don't think that's going anywhere.
02:03:48.100
I mean, these are people who wanted to kill the filibuster five seconds ago and pack the
02:03:54.360
Now they're not going to want to touch the filibuster for the rest of time.
02:04:04.220
And pass a national abortion ban and reinstitute Project 2025.
02:04:09.180
Dennis, before we part company, you promised Ben and I a story about your sons.
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I told you that during our sessions that I had said publicly that the happiest day in
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And that includes, I would add in my speeches, the day my two sons were born.
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So the first question anyone asks me is, have your kids, have your sons heard you say that?
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This is what I got unsolicited from my two sons.
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I didn't know if we would, I didn't want to interrupt with my personal, but it is so precious.
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And if I just can't, I probably can't, if I, there are so many texts here.
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So basically, first I get a text from my older son.
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And it's basically, I wish I had word for word.
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So my older son says, now, the day your two sons were born is your third happiest day in your life.
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When you start laughing when you're alone, you know something is really funny.
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So that, that was, so for those who wonder how my kids reacted, then my younger son texts,
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his, last night was happier than the day I was born.
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Dennis, thanks for spending this time with you.
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And to our Daily Wire subscribers, thank you and everybody watching at home.
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And we look forward to seeing you down the road.
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There's never been a better time to be in the fight.
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Maybe we'll just keep drinking and clinking glasses forever.
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Here's a little glance at how we ended the night last night.
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America showed up and said that we don't want that cringe win.
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What a historic moment and no better place to be than the Daily Wire, baby.
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Everybody wants to know what would have happened if we didn't win.