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00:01:28.880 I think marriage can be successful, of course. It's just not something that's as scalable as we

00:01:34.860 as a society are trying to pretend it is. Marriage is like the lottery, probably not gonna win.

00:01:39.600 I've spent a lot of time in my career defending the institution of marriage. And I defend it because

00:01:44.520 it's the bedrock of civilization, so it deserves defending. And I defend it because it's under

00:01:49.000 constant attack, so it needs defending. And one of the most troubling developments in recent years,

00:01:53.500 which we've discussed on this show in the past, is that these attacks are increasingly waged not

00:01:58.120 just from the left, but from certain noisy segments of the right as well. Some right-wing influencers

00:02:04.180 with legions of young, mostly male fans, have decided that men should abandon marriage and family

00:02:10.920 life and go their own way. And these influencers, many of whom consider themselves a part of the

00:02:15.960 so-called red pill movement, pretend to despise feminists and yet have essentially arrived at the 1.00

00:02:22.520 same conclusion as feminists, which is that we should give up on the family. The two sides hate 1.00

00:02:27.860 marriage almost as much as they hate each other. Now, one of these influencers is a woman named Pearl 1.00

00:02:33.040 Davis, who has garnered a relatively large following on YouTube and various social media platforms.

00:02:37.740 She's in her mid-twenties, single and childless, and yet full of opinions about modern marriage

00:02:43.300 and family life, a subject that she has no personal insight into whatsoever. She spent the past few

00:02:50.200 days on the internet complaining about quote-unquote trad cons like myself, who she says promote the

00:02:56.220 nuclear family despite not understanding what it's really like. Yes, we men who actually have wives and

00:03:02.100 children don't know what it's like to be married, but a woman who is not married and has no children 0.99

00:03:06.620 does know what it's like. In one of her tweets, she wrote, quote, the trad cons push marriage because 0.96

00:03:12.520 they aren't old enough to know better. They don't know the reality of what they're pushing.

00:03:16.460 This is accompanied by a picture of myself, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles. We aren't old enough

00:03:20.640 to know better and don't know the reality of what we're pushing, yet a woman who is younger than us

00:03:25.100 and single does know better and does understand this reality. In other posts, she goes on to say that

00:03:30.720 marriage is a terrible deal for men. And she later explains, quote, would you ever sign a contract that

00:03:36.200 fails 75% of the time where your business partner is paid to break the contract? Why would you

00:03:41.720 encourage men to sign that contract until the terms are fixed? Now, you may be surprised to learn

00:03:47.680 that marriages fail at a rate of 75%. The figure that people like this normally use is 50%. And the

00:03:55.760 claim that 50% of marriages end in divorce is already spurious, and we'll have more on that in a moment,

00:04:00.340 but 75%? I was wondering where that number came from, so I scrolled down and I saw something

00:04:06.160 that she reposted from an alleged lawyer who said this, quote, it's not 50-50, that only accounts

00:04:11.520 for divorces. Another 25% on the negative side for miserable men trapped in cheaper to keep her

00:04:17.740 marriages unwilling to risk financial destruction and loss of their children. 75% chance of a devastatingly

00:04:24.560 bad outcome is just a bad plan. No sane person would enter into a commercial contract on such terms.

00:04:30.880 Now, I did ask him where he got this 75% figure from, and he wouldn't say. Apparently, the magic

00:04:39.120 statistic fairy came and whispered it in his ear. Now, for her part, Pearl later tweeted a picture of

00:04:44.860 Pierce Brosnan with his wife of 20 years, and she questioned whether the marriage counts as successful

00:04:51.400 since Brosnan's wife has put on some weight at the age of 60. So, apparently, even if they're happy

00:04:59.180 and have remained married for two decades, they still might fall into that 75% failure rate because

00:05:05.300 they have not both remained in supermodel condition into their 60s. This debate on social media brought

00:05:11.320 out the rest of the marriage skeptical crowd on the right. A bunch of these red pill influencers 0.77

00:05:16.480 decided to hop on an emergency Zoom call and spend two hours talking about me and the rest of the Daily

00:05:22.820 Wire crew and our reckless promotion of society's most fundamental institution.

00:05:28.200 Now, there's one clip here that you should see. This is apparently a divorce lawyer who says that

00:05:36.200 the failure rate for marriage is not 50% and it's not 75%. It is, in fact, even higher. Listen.

00:05:45.440 I think marriage can be successful, of course. It's just not something that's as scalable as we,

00:05:51.200 as a society, are trying to pretend it is. Marriage is, and I've said this a hundred times and I'll say

00:05:56.140 it a hundred more. Marriage is like the lottery. You are probably not going to win. Okay? You're

00:06:02.920 probably not going to win. Don't make that your 401k. You're probably not going to win. But if you win,

00:06:10.140 what you win is so great that I don't blame you for buying a ticket and trying. I personally don't

00:06:17.320 buy lottery tickets. But when somebody says, yeah, I played a lottery. Hey man, somebody's got to win.

00:06:22.060 And you know what? As long as you're not blowing money that you need for food or to put shoes on

00:06:25.960 your kid's feet, you're not hurting anybody. Go out, give it a try. So I always tell people, listen,

00:06:31.040 marriage, when it works, when you have somebody who's married 20 plus years and they're still crazy

00:06:35.460 about each other, that is the exception, not the rule. But when you do it, it's phenomenal. It's

00:06:41.480 phenomenal. So why not buy the ticket, take the ride, but have a prenup? Wear a seatbelt, guys.

00:06:46.420 You can be a safe driver, but wear a seatbelt. So a happy marriage, he says, is like winning

00:06:52.480 the lottery. And the thing about the lottery is that almost everybody loses. This is a perfect

00:06:58.400 summation of how this entire club views marriage and the message that they're sending to young men

00:07:05.120 in particular. Sure, it can be great, they concede, but only if you're insanely lucky.

00:07:10.480 Everybody else is screwed. This is a rather bleak view of marriage, and thankfully, 0.58

00:07:16.260 it's also nonsense. First of all, the claim that marriage isn't scalable is obviously ridiculous 0.96

00:07:22.920 because marriage has served as the bedrock of human society since time immemorial. It has already

00:07:30.160 happened at the scale of civilization for thousands of years. Now, the divorce lawyers come along and say

00:07:37.200 you know this thing that society has been doing forever? Turns out it doesn't work.

00:07:43.740 Unless you're the one in a million. It's ridiculous. It's a ridiculous claim. 0.99

00:07:50.520 Now, what about the failure rate of marriages in our culture? We've heard 50%. We've heard 75%. 0.96

00:07:55.520 We just heard that they fail at a rate similar to the rate that people lose the lottery,

00:08:00.260 which would mean higher than 99%, a lot higher. Yet, these kinds of astronomical odds are not based

00:08:08.600 in anything but the doom and gloom speculations of the people inventing them. There is no evidence

00:08:14.920 that having a happy marriage is as unlikely as winning the lottery or that 75% of marriages end in

00:08:21.680 misery. And what about the 50% number? Well, this is at least is a familiar statistic. It's something

00:08:27.740 that you've probably heard before. 50% of marriages end in divorce. It's familiar, but it is bogus.

00:08:35.240 And one way that you know that it's bogus is that people have been claiming that 50% of marriages end

00:08:41.000 in divorce since I was a kid. I've been hearing that my whole life. And that would mean that divorce

00:08:47.920 rates are static across time. But of course, that isn't the case. In fact, we know that divorce rates

00:08:53.020 have gone down in recent years. So where does the 50% figure come from? Apparently, it's a holdover

00:09:00.180 from the 1980s, which is when people first started citing that statistic. It's not true today. And it's

00:09:06.380 actually not clear that it was true even in the 80s either. So what is the actual divorce rate?

00:09:13.300 It's a little bit hard to determine. Probably our best guess is based on U.S. census data,

00:09:19.020 which according to the most recent figures, says that about 35% of American adults who have been

00:09:24.780 married have been divorced. So it's not exactly going to give us a precisely scientific figure of

00:09:32.240 what the divorce rate is, but it's as close as we're going to get, 35%. And 35% is high. I mean,

00:09:39.400 it's way too high. It's not 50% though. And it's not 75%. And it's not 99%. And it's definitely not

00:09:48.020 lottery odds. Still, isn't it terrifying to think that if you get married, your chance of failure is

00:09:55.820 35% and the chance of success is only 65% at the most. You know, even if we go with that number,

00:10:03.140 isn't that still very, very scary? Isn't it high enough that it should dissuade anyone from attempting

00:10:08.460 it? The answer to that question is no. And here's why. If the divorce rate is 35%, or even if it's 50%,

00:10:19.820 it does not follow that your own particular marriage has a 35% or 50% chance of failure.

00:10:28.380 Now, I'm not saying that you should be cocky or reckless, or that you should see yourself as

00:10:33.080 invincible. I am saying that you shouldn't, on the other extreme, see yourself as passive debris

00:10:41.620 floating helplessly on the tide of statistical likelihoods. Because you are an individual.

00:10:48.980 Your marriage is an individual thing. And its chances of failure are not set by society at large.

00:10:57.100 So here's an example to illustrate what I mean. And this is really, really important

00:11:01.720 to understand. Because as marriage rates fall, and those are falling, the thing that convinces so 0.94

00:11:11.540 many people to not marry in the first place are numbers like this. And this misconception that,

00:11:17.180 well, look at the divorce rate, and that is my own specific chance of getting divorced.

00:11:24.100 And I'm here to tell you that that's not how it works. So here's, I think this illustrates it.

00:11:30.560 The obesity rate in the United States is over 40%. Does that mean that your own chances of becoming

00:11:39.200 obese are 40%? No, it doesn't. Your chances might be 5%. They might be practically zero. Or they might

00:11:49.100 be quite a bit higher than 40%. That's because obesity is the result of behavior and choices.

00:11:55.780 If you do not engage in the behavior or make the choices that lead to obesity, you will not become

00:12:02.700 obese. The fact that 40% of people around you are fat does not mean that you automatically have a 40%

00:12:10.920 obesity risk. Now let's take another example. Car accidents. Americans get into car accidents at a

00:12:19.040 certain rate. I'm not sure what the rate is. It doesn't matter for our purposes. What does matter is that

00:12:23.460 your own individual chance of getting into a car accident is not the same as every other driver

00:12:30.000 on the road. The people who compile statistics will say things like, motorists have an X percent chance

00:12:35.040 of getting into a collision. But you are not just a generic motorist. You are an individual.

00:12:42.060 Now you can never bring your own chance of dying in a fiery car wreck down to zero.

00:12:45.860 But if you're responsible, if you're a responsible driver, then obviously your chances of getting into

00:12:51.800 an accident are much lower than the chances of someone who is not responsible. All of those

00:12:57.040 stupid drivers who don't understand the basic rules of the road and like to tweet and eat while they drive 1.00

00:13:02.500 and everything else, they're inflating the numbers for everyone. Now they're also making the roads more 1.00

00:13:08.180 dangerous for everyone. They are actually actively making your own chances of getting into a car accident

00:13:14.580 higher because the roads are filled with stupid people. But your chances are not as high as their 1.00

00:13:21.400 chances. You do not share their level of risk unless you're as dumb as they are. Because again, you are an 1.00

00:13:28.420 individual, not a mere statistic. So what about marriage? It's true that even if you do everything right,

00:13:37.620 things can still fall apart if your spouse doesn't follow that program. Now if you both do everything

00:13:43.280 right or even most things right, then your chance of divorce is basically zero. But you can do

00:13:49.840 everything on your end and maybe your spouse doesn't do the same and then it falls apart anyway and that

00:13:54.880 happens and it's terrible, but it happens. It's also true that there are many, many things you can do

00:14:02.100 in your marriage and before your marriage to make it much more secure than the average.

00:14:08.400 Obvious things. Like you can marry someone who shares your same fundamental values. Not everyone

00:14:14.580 does that. In fact, a lot of people don't. A lot of people go into marriages knowing ahead of time

00:14:20.760 that they're marrying someone who doesn't share their fundamental values.

00:14:25.980 Their chances of divorce are going to be somewhere much higher than yours if you don't make that

00:14:32.320 basic entry-level mistake that they have made. You can do other things. Like you can state from

00:14:40.140 the outset that you both in principle don't believe in divorce and won't consider it as a viable option

00:14:45.580 for solving any marital difficulties you may experience down the line. You can have a strong

00:14:50.340 and shared faith. You can establish from the beginning a habit of honest communication. You can make time for

00:14:56.860 each other. You can continue to date even or especially as your lives get busier and you start

00:15:01.880 having kids and so on. You can make a strong effort to be patient with and grateful to each other. You

00:15:06.440 can take care of your body and your appearance. You can do all these things and more. Now, I'm not saying

00:15:11.680 that if you do all of this, it will bring your divorce chance down to zero. I'm not denying that there

00:15:16.380 are plenty of people out there who did all this, at least on their own end, and yet still ended up

00:15:21.380 divorce. That's not my point. My point is that the divorce rate doesn't take any of that into account.

00:15:27.560 The people who take none of these basic steps are lumped in with the people who do all of it,

00:15:32.320 and we're supposed to believe that both groups have an equal chance of marital failure. That's just not

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00:16:55.280 expressvpn.com slash walshyt. We opened the show yesterday with a discussion about the crisis of

00:17:01.940 masculinity and the rise of Andrew Tate. And to very briefly summarize the key points made in that

00:17:07.500 conversation, boys are growing up in a culture that is openly hostile to masculinity, and many are forced

00:17:13.080 to navigate the minefield without the benefits of strong male role models to show them the path. And this

00:17:18.900 crisis is self-perpetuating. It grows exponentially because the young men with absentee fathers

00:17:24.980 eventually become absentee fathers themselves, repeating the cycle indefinitely unto infinity.

00:17:30.600 And into this field of confusion and man hatred steps guys like Andrew Tate and others, quickly

00:17:37.020 earning an enormous following of young men who understandably flock to somebody who has a message

00:17:41.820 that embraces masculinity rather than treating it like a disease. Andrew Tate, very often good at

00:17:48.440 identifying the problems in our culture as they pertain to the situation that men face,

00:17:52.620 and deserves credit for speaking up in defense of masculinity rather than denigrating it and calling

00:17:57.760 for its eradication, essentially. But in my view, he misses the mark when it comes to the remedy. He

00:18:02.840 seems to basically understand the disease, but he doesn't have the right prescription for it, or at

00:18:07.280 least the full prescription. Yes, men should reject the programming that our culture wants to subject 0.75

00:18:12.920 them to, programming which seeks to neuter and feminize them. Yes, they should work hard. They should take

00:18:18.240 care of their minds and their bodies. Yes, they should strive for success, including financial

00:18:22.400 success. But a life of hedonism and materialism and luxurious wealth, remaining unmarried while sleeping

00:18:29.600 with dozens of different women and so on, is not the ideal to strive towards. Rather, what men are

00:18:36.800 called to and created for, and the only sort of life that will be truly happy, that they'll find true

00:18:42.600 happiness and joy in, is a life of service as protector and provider. Men, the vast majority of

00:18:49.840 men anyway, are called to be husbands and fathers, to be leaders of their families. Now, they may be

00:18:54.700 called to lead in other ways too, but first they must care for their families. If there's any saving

00:18:59.620 our civilization at this point, which I think there is, but if there is, this is how it will be done,

00:19:06.900 and this is who will do it. It's not going to be saved by influencers who are sitting in front of

00:19:12.760 cameras, whether the guy in front of the camera is Andrew Tate or me or anyone else. It'll be saved

00:19:18.460 through the formation and preservation of strong, intact, loving, and well-led families. That is the

00:19:26.940 only way. It is the only way forward. If every man in the country starts going to the gym and starts

00:19:34.420 making lots of money and starts having sex with lots of attractive women, and yet they don't get

00:19:40.060 married and stay married and have children and raise and love those children, then we will still 0.99

00:19:47.520 be headed to ruin. It'll be a slightly different kind of ruin, but ruin all the same. Those men

00:19:54.120 themselves will ultimately find the happiness that they are able to derive in that lifestyle.

00:20:00.480 They'll find that it's shallow and it's fleeting, and in the end, they'll die alone, loved by no

00:20:06.160 one, loving no one, remembered by no one, leaving no legacy behind. The feminized and neutered and 1.00

00:20:14.160 effeminate man that our left-wing culture seeks to create, and then this other sort of man, both

00:20:19.200 unmarried, both childless, will look very similar in the end, having taken two very different paths

00:20:26.420 just to arrive together at essentially the same place. It's the family man, the devoted father

00:20:32.740 and husband, whose different path actually leads to a different and much better conclusion.

00:20:40.480 Now, I've of course been preaching this message for as long as I've had an audience to preach to,

00:20:45.500 and I have found that there are like two or three basic responses or rebuttals, I guess, that

00:20:50.960 I always hear from young men who may, for the most part, line up with me ideologically, but who doubt

00:20:56.260 the wisdom of the get married and have kids prescription. And I was greeted with these same

00:21:02.800 responses after the show yesterday and many messages and comments. What I'd like to do today is answer

00:21:07.760 the objections, or at least what seems to be the one principal objection. The claim that I so often hear

00:21:16.020 is that, well, marriage and family life is a trap. It's a scam, especially for men. The whole thing 0.98

00:21:23.560 is rigged against us. There is nothing for a man to do, but give up on the entire enterprise and go

00:21:29.420 his own way. In fact, there's a whole movement online, men go their own way. And that's basically

00:21:34.900 the idea. Just give up on this stuff and do something else. This argument was summarized in a

00:21:41.860 comment from a listener named Joshua, which I'll read, because I think it just is representative

00:21:45.880 of this sort of mentality. He says, still sounds like Matt and most trad cons definition of what

00:21:51.640 masculinity means is exclusively through the lens of women and children's wants and needs. 1.00

00:21:56.800 Unfortunately, that ideal will no longer work in the modern world with birth control, hookup culture,

00:22:01.760 social media, and court systems that favor women and the denigration of traditional masculinity. 1.00

00:22:07.180 I don't agree with all of Tate's views, but it sure beats Matt's prescriptions for young men.

00:22:12.340 Again, I've read a great many comments making the same kind of point. A private message from another

00:22:16.300 listener has a similar theme. It says, Matt, I agree with many of your opinions, but your message

00:22:20.000 to men is off base. Young men follow Andrew Tate because his lifestyle is the ideal, whether you

00:22:24.540 admit it or not. Wealth, fame, status, beautiful women were biologically programmed to want those 1.00

00:22:29.960 things. Marriage is a losing game. The only solution in modern society is to reject the life of service, 0.95

00:22:35.820 as you call it. So what is the problem with this view? Well, to begin with, it's nothing less than

00:22:44.460 a full, unconditional surrender to the culture. It's true that the culture has increasingly made 0.88

00:22:50.540 difficult for both men and women to form and maintain strong, intact, lasting families. And

00:22:57.220 that's because the elites who run our society don't want you to live that kind of life.

00:23:02.720 They prefer that you focus on your individual wants, on fulfilling your own needs and satisfying

00:23:11.060 your own desires. That's what they prefer for you. That's the life they want for you. A self-focused

00:23:17.300 life is precisely the sort of life they wish for you. Makes you easier to manipulate, less of a threat

00:23:24.460 to their agenda. Not really a threat at all. I mean, if you're just out there focused on yourself,

00:23:31.200 you know, being a consumer, buying lots of things for yourself, consuming things for yourself,

00:23:36.920 you know, and all the rest of it, you're not a threat to their agenda at all. I mean, you're

00:23:42.840 going along with it. All of the things mentioned by Joshua in his comment,

00:23:50.920 all of those things represent a conspiracy against the family. He's right about that.

00:23:57.780 The way the family court systems are set up, birth control, all the rest of it.

00:24:02.000 It's an attack on the family. So what is the answer? To give up? To give the conspirators

00:24:09.600 exactly what they want? To reward them for their efforts by turning your back on the very thing

00:24:15.360 they've been assaulting for decades? The family is the fortress that they have been attacking.

00:24:22.940 And you can defend it with your life or you can wave the white flag. But if you choose to surrender,

00:24:29.700 then at least be honest about what you're doing. Be honest. This is not a rejection of the left's

00:24:36.400 agenda, of a cultural elite's agenda. You are submitting to it. It is a submission.

00:24:42.140 It is certainly not the strong or masculine response to run away and abandon your post.

00:24:50.760 To stop fighting because the fight is too difficult. I mean, that approaches many things,

00:24:56.120 but it certainly isn't manly. And where do you go instead? I mean, what is the next move?

00:25:03.380 To give up on the family is to give up on human civilization, seeing as how there cannot be a

00:25:08.620 human civilization without the family. So what's plan B after you've given up on civilization?

00:25:14.340 What's next? You're also giving up on yourself, on your own legacy, your own bloodline. You are

00:25:20.880 descended from a long line of men stretching back thousands of years who formed families and raised

00:25:26.920 children, often under circumstances far more dire than what we face.

00:25:32.040 And you're giving up on them too. You are surrendering your future and your past. You're

00:25:40.800 giving up on everything. And what is your consolation prize? Finding financial success?

00:25:48.740 I mean, the unfortunate irony is that many of the people that, many of the men who give up on these

00:25:53.800 things in favor of, well, I'll just focus on myself and try to be financially successful.

00:25:57.320 Many of them are never even going to be financially successful. So they end up with just

00:26:01.340 nothing. They end up broke and alone with nothing. But even if you find it, the financial success,

00:26:11.960 so what? I mean, who cares about money if you have nothing meaningful to spend it on?

00:26:17.020 I have money. I don't have Andrew Tate's money, but I have money. And nearly all the joy and happiness

00:26:23.000 I derive from having money is that it allows me to provide for my family.

00:26:28.840 That's pretty much it. That's the entire thing. That's why I like having the money is that I find

00:26:34.080 great pleasure in being able to care for a wife and six kids. Proud of that fact. If I didn't have

00:26:40.260 them, the money would mean very little to me. I mean, I could buy nice things and drive a fancy car

00:26:45.220 and live in my nice house alone. But for what? Now, does that mean that if you start a family that

00:26:54.020 you're guaranteed to live a joyful and fulfilled life? Well, of course not. It's a risk.

00:27:00.200 And yes, the risks are in some ways much greater in modern times. We have all been poisoned by this

00:27:06.460 demonic culture to one extent or another. We are all poisoned. 0.82

00:27:10.020 Poisoned. If you marry someone, you are marrying someone who has been poisoned, who has ingested the

00:27:17.300 poison, who has taken a drink from the well of modern culture. Everybody has, as have you. And yes,

00:27:26.580 if things go sideways, if you're a man, you marry a woman and your wife turns out to be a disloyal 0.58

00:27:32.980 vulture, or if you turn out to be a disloyal vulture, or you both do, the deck will be stacked against

00:27:40.820 you in court. There's no question about that. Divorce may ruin your life. And if you give your

00:27:49.460 heart to someone, if you bind yourself to them, not only through the marriage vow, but then also 0.93

00:27:53.460 through children you conceive together, then they will have all they need to rip your guts out and burn 1.00

00:28:01.240 your life to the ground. That is absolutely true. That's the risk. Okay. But it's a risk worth taking. 0.99

00:28:10.160 Every great joy can become a great tragedy if you aren't careful or if you have very bad luck.

00:28:18.120 That's true. So is the answer then to forego all joy? To say, forget about joy because it might not

00:28:26.120 work out? To embrace a life of loneliness and misery because you're worried that if you aim higher,

00:28:32.480 you'll end up lonely and miserable? You're worried that in the end, you'll end up in this state. So

00:28:40.240 instead you say, well, I might as well just live in this state to begin with. It doesn't make any sense.

00:28:46.200 So you take the risk and you mitigate the risk at the same time by being smart about who you marry and

00:28:53.720 by grounding your marriage and your family in faith and mutual devotion and by working hard every day

00:29:01.040 to hold up your own end of the bargain. Because yeah, there are some men out there who do everything

00:29:06.060 right and they're great men and they're devoted to their families and they're intensely loyal and all

00:29:12.540 of that and their families fall apart anyway because they accidentally married a soulless disloyal 1.00

00:29:17.560 scumbag. I mean, that does happen and sometimes it happens in the reverse. But that's not, that's not 0.99

00:29:25.440 the majority of cases. Most of the time it takes two to tango, two to get married, two to ruin the

00:29:32.300 marriage, which means that marriage is not a mere roll of the dice. There's quite a lot you can do to

00:29:40.420 secure your good fortune. That's why I never cared about the statistics. You know, when I was getting

00:29:46.080 married and I heard about this statistically, this is, I'm not a statistic. I'm not just some number

00:29:52.100 on a spreadsheet and neither is my wife. We're human beings. I'm not subject to statistics.

00:29:59.940 Not merely subject to them. Because the one thing statistics don't take into account are choices.

00:30:09.140 It's about the choices you make. Whether your marriage works or not, it's about choices that

00:30:14.220 are made in the marriage. If one or both of you make bad choices, your chances are going to be very

00:30:23.400 poor. If you make good choices, they won't be. That's what it is. And yet the risk is always there.

00:30:29.940 So will you live in fear of it? Or will you have the courage and go forward anyway?

The Matt Walsh Show - October 18, 2025

Marriage Is Under Attack ｜ Proof For Your Liberal Friend

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