The Matt Walsh Show - Matt RESPONDS To Ben's Unhinged Rant

00:00:00.000 Over the weekend, I was callously attacked in a YouTube video by a notorious far-right extremist by the name of Ben Shapiro.

00:00:07.020 Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Stop it for a second. Just stop it. That's so... Oh my god. Oh my god.

00:00:12.300 Ben waged this brutal cyber assault against me because of a recent video of mine where I listed the top five most overrated movies of all time.

00:00:22.060 And Ben decided to issue a rebuttal to my list, even though I explicitly say at the beginning of my original video that my list is incontrovertibly correct and is not up for discussion.

00:00:32.760 Did Ben not hear that disclaimer? What part of not up for discussion did you not understand, Ben?

00:00:41.600 Now, there's not enough time for me to explain my list in detail again. You can go to that video and hear it for yourself.

00:00:47.440 Just to briefly summarize, the top five most overrated films of all time, as declared by me and by science, are Shawshank Redemption, Toy Story, The Dark Knight, the entire Marvel Cinematic Universe, and all of the Star Wars films, including and especially the originals.

00:01:06.940 No!

00:01:07.340 Area is sanitized. All targets destroyed. Solid copy. No movement detected.

00:01:21.280 Now, some people have speculated that the whole reason I made this list and singled out those particular movies was solely to troll Ben Shapiro.

00:01:30.500 That is the wild conspiracy theory floating out there on the internet.

00:01:33.840 But I ask you this. Do I seem like the kind of guy who would take the time to record a video just to troll someone?

00:01:41.860 Am I so petty and contrarian and immature that I would make a video designed solely to annoy and antagonize one of the owners of the company I work for?

00:01:52.960 I think we all know the answer to that question.

00:01:54.740 Now, today I want to respond to this unprovoked assault and onslaught from someone who I thought was a friend.

00:02:03.900 I'm not going to even acknowledge his rebuttal to my points about Toy Story, Shawshank Redemption, Star Wars, or Marvel.

00:02:10.820 Frankly, I'm so obviously correct about all those films that it would be almost insulting to the viewer for me to bother defending the point.

00:02:16.820 My arguments were expressed so eloquently and presented with such striking lucidity and depth of analysis that it would be pointless to elaborate.

00:02:25.180 It would be like asking Michelangelo to recreate the Statue of David.

00:02:28.560 He could do it, certainly, but why should he waste his time repeating himself?

00:02:32.780 Instead, I'm going to focus only on Ben's response to my arguments against the Dark Knight.

00:02:38.880 Ben is very fond of the Dark Knight.

00:02:41.560 He talks about it all the time.

00:02:43.220 He told me he watches the movie once a week and weeps each time.

00:02:48.000 He didn't say that specifically, but I read between the lines.

00:02:50.840 The point is that he loves the movie, and that probably explains why his response on this movie in particular was so vicious and so hurtful.

00:03:02.100 Watch.

00:03:02.960 Number three, The Dark Knight.

00:03:05.060 Oh, shut the f*** up. 0.99

00:03:05.620 Once again, good film.

00:03:07.400 It just isn't the masterpiece that people make it out to be.

00:03:10.260 Without Heath Ledger's great performance, this movie wouldn't be remembered for anything in particular.

00:03:15.400 Oh, you mean one of the key roles in the film is actually crucial to the film?

00:03:19.940 Truly one of the stupidest arguments I have ever heard, Matt.

00:03:22.940 Without the Academy Award-winning Best Villain in Film History in the film, it's a different movie.

00:03:29.260 Ta-da! 1.00

00:03:30.340 I could do that with literally anything.

00:03:32.360 You know, the New Testament without Jesus, not nearly as good.

00:03:35.240 Like, take Heath Ledger out of it.

00:03:37.060 What does anyone remember about this movie?

00:03:38.420 Who cares about this movie except for that?

00:03:40.640 What?

00:03:40.720 It's great by Batman movie standards, but it's not great as a piece of cinema.

00:03:44.680 Ah, man, I thought my jokes were bad.

00:03:47.340 Okay, first of all, Ben, please watch The Language.

00:03:51.240 Language!

00:03:53.980 Second, please watch The Sarcasm.

00:03:55.940 I would never stoop to being sarcastic.

00:03:58.020 I expected more from you.

00:03:59.500 Third, yeah, you really understood my argument, didn't you?

00:04:01.960 I'm not saying that if you take the Joker character out of the film, it's not a great film anymore.

00:04:06.420 That's not my point.

00:04:07.580 You would be correct to point out that any film is bad if you take out its most compelling characters.

00:04:11.640 That's not my argument.

00:04:12.700 I'm saying that the Joker character is actually not that great.

00:04:16.640 Heath Ledger's performance of the character elevates it beyond what it would otherwise be.

00:04:21.500 The Joker in the script is kind of hokey and corny.

00:04:24.740 The Joker that Heath Ledger creates in spite of the film and the script is compelling.

00:04:29.060 I'll give you an example.

00:04:29.640 One of the Joker's first lines in the film, I think his first line, is, whatever doesn't kill you only makes you...

00:04:34.640 Stranger.

00:04:38.560 That is a bad line.

00:04:40.160 That's just a bad line to have.

00:04:41.780 That is not the kind of line you find in a cinematic masterpiece.

00:04:44.360 In fact, if that line is in your movie, it's not a masterpiece.

00:04:48.020 I don't care what else happens.

00:04:49.760 Automatically, it's not a masterpiece.

00:04:51.240 But Ledger managed to deliver that line in a way that disguised its corniness.

00:04:56.700 Compare this to, say, Vito Corleone in The Godfather.

00:04:59.480 Obviously, Marlon Brando's performance in the role is legendary,

00:05:02.220 but the character was so brilliantly written and the film around him so incredible

00:05:05.060 that it would have still been a great film with another capable actor in the role.

00:05:08.140 The same cannot be said of The Dark Knight.

00:05:09.800 Without that one performance, not the character, the performance,

00:05:13.100 the film would not be remembered for anything, actually.

00:05:16.640 Also, the Joker is not the greatest villain in cinema history.

00:05:18.920 That title belongs unquestionably to Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men. 0.68

00:05:22.640 He is both more menacing and more interesting than the Joker.

00:05:25.180 There's not one scene in The Dark Knight that even comes close to matching,

00:05:28.160 even just the gas station scene in No Country for Old Men.

00:05:31.100 And Joker in The Dark Knight never had one line that matches Anton Chigurh's 0.60

00:05:35.080 immortal question posed to Woody Harrelson's character.

00:05:37.780 If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what is was the rule.

00:05:41.660 So he conveyed the Joker's philosophy far more effectively

00:05:44.640 and in a much more clever way than the Joker ever did.

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00:06:53.080 How does the Joker wire an entire hospital with enough explosives to demolish it in 15

00:06:58.760 seconds without anyone noticing?

00:07:01.340 This is a working hospital.

00:07:03.060 People are in it 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

00:07:05.460 How did you, you wired the whole thing.

00:07:07.080 It's not even just like one part of it explodes.

00:07:08.820 The whole thing is taken down.

00:07:10.100 Wait, wait, that's it.

00:07:10.900 That's his critique.

00:07:11.660 His critique is like the practicality of wiring a building to explode.

00:07:14.180 I mean, yes, that's correct.

00:07:16.040 Gotham City's a s*** show.

00:07:17.200 They have a literal insane asylum where they keep people and every five minutes people

00:07:21.760 break out of the insane asylum.

00:07:23.680 Also, has he been to a hospital recently?

00:07:25.440 They're not really all that well run.

00:07:27.420 I remember when my wife was in residency.

00:07:29.780 Yeah, man.

00:07:30.540 I mean, not that I would have committed a criminal act like the Joker, but I don't feel

00:07:32.780 like it would have been that hard.

00:07:33.680 You don't think it'd be hard to wire the entire hospital to explode?

00:07:37.220 Do you know how many explosives will be needed to blow up an entire hospital?

00:07:40.320 A lot.

00:07:44.180 I don't know exactly how much.

00:07:45.240 I started to Google it, but then I realized that I might be putting myself on an FBI watch

00:07:48.920 list with a Google search like that.

00:07:51.600 Of course, I'm probably already on an FBI watch list.

00:07:54.160 In any case, this is a massive demolition project that would take many hours to complete.

00:07:58.520 Even with lax security, it just isn't close to realistic.

00:08:01.100 Now, I know you might say, well, it's a Batman movie.

00:08:02.980 It's not supposed to be realistic.

00:08:04.120 You can't have it both ways, Ben.

00:08:05.160 You can't tell me that it's this gritty, mature, Oscar-worthy Batman film, but then

00:08:09.160 also insist that it's just a silly superhero flick, so it doesn't matter if it's not believable.

00:08:13.920 Which is it?

00:08:14.680 You can't just hide behind Gotham City as a show.

00:08:17.120 No, this movie is a show.

00:08:18.680 The script is a show.

00:08:20.300 You, sir, are a show.

00:08:22.460 Now, the movie hopes that you won't notice that problem because you'll be distracted

00:08:25.200 by, like, the moment in the hospital when Joker shows up in Two-Face's room wearing

00:08:30.300 a surgical mask and isn't noticed by Two-Face until he takes the mask off.

00:08:35.040 But even with the mask on, you can still tell that he has white face paint and black

00:08:38.800 paint around his eyes.

00:08:40.000 So how did Two-Face, the criminal genius, not notice that?

00:08:42.600 Well, maybe it's because Two-Face isn't a criminal genius in this.

00:08:45.020 He's a villain for about a half a scene, and then he's dead.

00:08:48.180 It's like Christopher Nolan forgot to include Two-Face.

00:08:50.680 They're about to put the movie out.

00:08:52.040 It's like a week, and the movie's going to come out, and someone says, well, we forgot.

00:08:54.460 We're going to put Two-Face in this thing.

00:08:55.800 Oh, yeah.

00:08:56.300 Then they've got to go back.

00:08:57.200 What are you talking about?

00:08:58.480 That's the entire character arc of Two-Face.

00:09:00.280 You don't change anything in the movie at all.

00:09:02.120 No, what?

00:09:03.340 Are you kidding me?

00:09:04.360 Are you kidding me?

00:09:05.160 Stop it for a second.

00:09:05.980 Just stop it.

00:09:06.500 That's so...

00:09:07.160 Oh, my God.

00:09:08.020 Oh, my God.

00:09:08.740 The entire plot point in the film is that Two-Face is supposed to be a representation

00:09:14.700 of the fallen state of humanity, right?

00:09:16.780 He goes from the hero to the villain, and the whole point is that all hopes for sort of

00:09:22.920 cleanliness in Gotham City can be obliterated.

00:09:25.680 And if you have too much of an idealistic view about what humanity is, which is what

00:09:30.880 Harvey Dent has for most of the movie, then you end up falling, because once you fall,

00:09:34.940 you really fall hard.

00:09:36.020 Oh, was that the message?

00:09:43.120 Wow, how profound.

00:09:44.400 You shut up! 0.99

00:09:45.160 Sometimes good people become bad people.

00:09:47.900 Amazing.

00:09:48.540 Christopher Nolan, again, demonstrating his profound understanding of the human condition

00:09:51.600 with this insight that my five-year-old daughter could offer.

00:09:54.580 Yes, I understand that Harvey Dent had an idealistic view of humanity and then ends up becoming

00:09:58.220 everything he was fighting against.

00:09:59.460 I get that.

00:09:59.960 How could I not get it?

00:10:00.820 Nolan beats you over the head with that message over and over again.

00:10:03.360 The whole movie is just Christopher Nolan bashing you in the skull with a two-by-four, screaming

00:10:07.740 his philosophical ideas at you.

00:10:09.280 Each character takes turn giving speeches for the entire movie.

00:10:13.280 The whole movie is just one speech after another.

00:10:15.580 We freaking get it, okay?

00:10:16.980 I get it.

00:10:18.040 I get it.

00:10:18.600 Now, the problem is that the characters spend so much time giving speeches that they forget

00:10:22.080 to be actual characters.

00:10:23.280 Harvey Dent flips like a switch from super good guy to super bad guy with almost no runway

00:10:27.180 in between.

00:10:27.960 Not to mention those burns on his face would be fatal, okay?

00:10:30.700 He would not still be alive like that.

00:10:33.360 No.

00:10:34.240 There's just no way somebody survives having half of their head melted away.

00:10:39.080 Okay, Nolan was so obsessed with having everything look realistic that he actually ended up with

00:10:43.280 a two-face that was less realistic than the one from the cartoons.

00:10:47.140 In fact, I would go so far as to say that the Batman animated series from the 90s not only

00:10:51.680 had a far superior two-face character, but was all around in every way a superior product

00:10:55.760 to Nolan's version.

00:10:56.600 Indeed, I would also say the 90s cartoon Batman is the best thing Mark Hamill ever did.

00:11:01.240 I can't think of a single other thing Mark Hamill starred in that would match the Batman cartoon.

00:11:06.540 These are not just opinions that I'm coming up with right now on the spot to annoy you

00:11:09.340 even more, or if they are, I also think that they might be kind of true.

00:11:13.280 Potentially.

00:11:13.960 Anyway, I think I've made my point.

00:11:15.560 I don't want to make the same mistake Christopher Nolan made in The Dark Knight by repeating

00:11:19.180 myself over and over again.

00:11:20.320 I don't want this segment to run long like The Dark Knight did at a punishing run at runtime

00:11:24.360 of two and a half hours.

00:11:25.520 There is no excuse for a movie about a superhero in a rubber costume running around doing karate

00:11:31.360 against the bad guys to go longer than 85 minutes.

00:11:34.120 90 minutes at the absolute most.

00:11:35.800 No one only had 90 minutes of story.

00:11:37.560 The additional hour consisted of each character delivering the State of the Union address.

00:11:41.440 It's 90 minutes of story and an hour of speeches.

00:11:44.340 That's why I could even argue that Batman Forever starring Val Kilmer was better than The Dark Knight.

00:11:49.060 At least it got to the point much quicker and it had a better two-face.

00:11:51.480 But the worst two-face of all is you, Ben.

00:11:54.620 I am still in shock that after all this time working together, you would attack me so savagely.

00:12:00.320 I'm both horrified and offended by this unprovoked assault.

00:12:04.240 But more than that, I'm disappointed.

00:12:06.200 Your video was the most disappointing thing I've seen since The Dark Knight.

00:12:11.420 And that is why both The Dark Knight and you, Ben Shapiro, are today canceled.

00:12:21.480 By the way, Ben Hazard and you, Ben Shapiro, are today in jail.

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The Matt Walsh Show - November 16, 2024

Matt RESPONDS To Ben's Unhinged Rant

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