The Matt Walsh Show - June 30, 2023


Matt Walsh Roasts Dumb Celebrities


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Anne Hathaway cancels her appearance on The View this week, and Jessica Chastain calls her out for being a hypocrite. But what does that have to do with abortion? And what does it mean for the future of women's reproductive rights?

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00:00:00.000 My own personal experience with abortion, and I don't think we talk about this enough,
00:00:04.360 abortion can be another word for mercy.
00:00:06.360 Our country has failed us!
00:00:13.400 I'm very excited about this daily cancellation.
00:00:15.560 I finally get a chance to cancel Anne Hathaway.
00:00:18.960 I've held a grudge against this woman ever since my wife, early in our marriage, 1.00
00:00:23.100 forced me to go to the theater with her, with her mom and her sister, to watch Les Miserables.
00:00:28.020 It was the worst experience of my life.
00:00:31.820 Every actor in the film was deeply and painfully annoying.
00:00:35.680 None of them would stop singing at all.
00:00:38.060 They sang the entire time from start to finish.
00:00:40.240 Yet even amidst all of that, Anne Hathaway managed to be irritating and insufferable 1.00
00:00:45.740 on a level that even Russell Crowe's blubbering off-key performance couldn't reach.
00:00:51.140 A couple of years later, I went with much higher hopes to go see Interstellar.
00:00:55.060 And there was Anne Hathaway again, helping to ruin the film with her cringy, saccharine speeches 1.00
00:00:59.800 about the transcendent power of love.
00:01:02.460 I wanted to see a movie about deep space exploration.
00:01:05.020 I was hoping there'd be aliens.
00:01:06.780 Instead, I got no aliens, only a little bit of space exploration,
00:01:09.500 in exchange for a lot of scenes of Anne Hathaway and Jessica Chastain sulking and whining
00:01:14.200 and giving corny sermons.
00:01:16.220 You son of a bitch.
00:01:17.380 The only thing that would have made it worse is if they started singing.
00:01:22.340 Thankfully, they didn't.
00:01:23.840 All that to say, this cancellation is a long time coming.
00:01:28.240 Hathaway's appearance this week on The View has, I think, finally provided me
00:01:31.820 the opportunity that I've been waiting for.
00:01:35.320 Let's watch.
00:01:35.740 The Devil Wears Prada didn't turn 16 this summer.
00:01:38.840 Yes.
00:01:38.980 The time flies, boy.
00:01:40.340 So you wrote this on Instagram, quote,
00:01:42.360 I am struck by the fact that the young female characters in this movie built their lives
00:01:46.480 and careers in a country that honored their right to have choice over their own reproductive
00:01:50.460 health.
00:01:51.420 See you in the fight.
00:01:52.640 So why did you write that?
00:01:54.480 Why was it important to you to write something like that?
00:01:58.200 Because we're in the fight.
00:01:59.720 We're in the fight every day.
00:02:01.020 We're in the fight every minute.
00:02:02.140 And you mentioned the Devil Wears Prada turning sweet 16.
00:02:04.920 Some 16-year-old's life has been irrevocably changed because of the current overturning
00:02:10.780 of Roe v. Wade.
00:02:11.800 I think about it all the time.
00:02:12.980 I think we all think about it all the time.
00:02:14.800 And what its implications are and what it means to live in a country that puts us in this position.
00:02:24.760 Again.
00:02:25.780 Again.
00:02:26.500 Freaking again.
00:02:27.440 Yeah.
00:02:27.920 Again.
00:02:29.280 Here we go again.
00:02:30.380 This is not a moral conversation about abortion.
00:02:34.120 Right.
00:02:34.380 This is a practical conversation about women's rights.
00:02:37.600 And by the way, human rights, because women's rights are human rights. 1.00
00:02:40.800 And the freedom that we all need to be able to choose and build our lives and have access
00:02:46.300 to excellent health care.
00:02:48.300 So let's try to sift through this.
00:02:51.000 She says that it grieves her to consider that the young female characters in Devil Wears Prada
00:02:56.660 would not be able to have abortions if the film was set in the current day. 0.79
00:03:00.300 It is, to begin with, extremely strange to worry about the availability of abortion for
00:03:05.080 fictional characters.
00:03:06.320 Also, again, not having seen it, my impression is that the movie has a rather dim view of selfish,
00:03:11.740 career-obsessed people.
00:03:14.120 That's like the Devil Wears Prada.
00:03:16.060 So part of the moral of the story, from what I understand, is that there's more to life
00:03:20.940 than professional ambition.
00:03:22.740 Yet Hathaway's takeaway is that women need to be able to kill their children so they can 1.00
00:03:26.860 focus more on career advancement.
00:03:28.900 There seems to be a little bit of a disconnect here.
00:03:30.840 She also speaks about reproductive destiny, which, of course, is exactly the sort of asinine, 0.83
00:03:35.640 hackneyed phrase you would expect Anne Hathaway to use when discussing abortion. 0.81
00:03:39.420 Um, it's, it's, it's not the sort of wording that I would ever choose, but since she brought
00:03:45.700 it up, let us ask this question.
00:03:48.680 Once a woman has conceived a child, what is her reproductive destiny? 1.00
00:03:54.540 The word destiny implies a force outside of the individual, a message, a mission from beyond
00:04:00.740 ourselves.
00:04:01.140 So what is this force?
00:04:02.940 Call it nature, call it the universe, call it, as I do, God.
00:04:05.980 What is this force trying to say to the woman?
00:04:08.960 What is her destiny now that she has conceived the child in her womb? 0.97
00:04:11.860 Is it her destiny to partake in the joy and beauty and fulfillment of motherhood?
00:04:16.100 Good idea, oh Lord.
00:04:17.380 Of course it's a good idea.
00:04:18.680 Or is it her destiny to pay some abortionist to kill her baby and throw his body into a 1.00
00:04:23.300 medical waste dumpster?
00:04:24.580 I would say the former.
00:04:25.800 Indeed, how could it be anyone's reproductive destiny to reject their reproductive capacity
00:04:31.360 and violently destroy the human life that they have reproduced?
00:04:35.060 To call such a choice reproductive destiny seems bizarre.
00:04:38.440 Hathaway also claims that she's not interested in having a moral conversation about abortion,
00:04:43.580 but rather a practical conversation about women's rights.
00:04:47.180 Well, except that a conversation about rights is automatically a conversation about morality.
00:04:53.320 You cannot extract the concept of morality from the concept of human rights.
00:04:59.260 A practical conversation, a real practical conversation, is one that is not concerned with
00:05:04.220 theories or ideas at all.
00:05:05.840 But human rights are a theory.
00:05:08.220 They are an idea.
00:05:09.640 They're a moral idea.
00:05:10.600 That isn't to say they don't exist, but rather that they exist in the moral realm.
00:05:15.500 They don't exist physically, practically, like a chair or a rock or the ocean exists.
00:05:20.040 So to say that you don't want to talk about morality, you just want to talk about human rights,
00:05:24.160 that is to speak gibberish.
00:05:26.220 Human rights are a moral concept.
00:05:28.660 The minute you bring them up, you have entered into the moral realm.
00:05:32.500 But that's not where Anne Hathaway wants to be because she knows that she can't actually
00:05:36.220 defend abortion on moral grounds.
00:05:38.520 None of these people can.
00:05:40.560 And that's the issue.
00:05:41.500 But she had more to say, and it only gets dumber from here, so let's continue.
00:05:44.060 Without going into too many details, my own personal experience with abortion, and I don't
00:05:48.980 think we talk about this enough, abortion can be another word for mercy. 0.57
00:05:54.480 We know that no two pregnancies are alike, and it follows that no two lives are alike,
00:05:58.760 that follows that no two conceptions are alike.
00:06:02.120 So how can we have a law?
00:06:04.260 How can we have a point of view on this that says we must treat everything the same?
00:06:08.820 And where I come at it from is when you allow for choice, you allow for flexibility,
00:06:14.060 which is what we need in order to be human.
00:06:18.960 Abortion is another word for mercy, she says.
00:06:21.400 But mercy for whom?
00:06:22.860 Genocide.
00:06:24.260 Mercy.
00:06:24.860 Mercy for the child who's being killed?
00:06:26.540 That's not mercy.
00:06:27.240 The child has an entire life ahead of him.
00:06:29.280 Or he should.
00:06:30.560 You're taking that away.
00:06:31.580 You're deciding for him that his life is not worth living.
00:06:34.260 You're erasing all of his potential.
00:06:36.440 All that could have been.
00:06:38.240 There's no mercy in that.
00:06:39.600 It's the opposite of mercy because it's the opposite of empathy.
00:06:42.520 And you can't have mercy without empathy.
00:06:44.060 Or do you mean that it's merciful to the woman?
00:06:46.860 Are you saying that killing a child is an act of mercy to the child's mother?
00:06:50.960 Well, no.
00:06:51.480 Mercy to the mother is to help her, to give her the resources she needs.
00:06:55.320 Mercy is what pregnancy centers provide. 1.00
00:06:57.840 Mercy is their ministry.
00:06:59.220 It's what they do.
00:07:00.460 Abortion clinics, on the other hand, are vultures.
00:07:02.780 They prey on fear and misery.
00:07:04.680 They cash in on it.
00:07:05.520 They feed off of it.
00:07:06.200 They profit off of it.
00:07:07.200 They sell guilt.
00:07:08.120 They sell regret.
00:07:08.840 They sell loneliness while taking away the love and joy of motherhood.
00:07:14.820 That's not mercy.
00:07:15.800 It's mercenary.
00:07:17.260 So whichever way Hathaway meant it, she's wrong.
00:07:20.100 Though I'm not sure she knows how she meant it because she's just babbling, which is what
00:07:23.880 most defenses of abortion boil down to.
00:07:26.300 Incoherent babble.
00:07:27.460 And that is why Anne Hathaway is today, finally, after all these years, cancer. 0.94
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00:09:01.960 For our daily cancellation, we turn to American Idol.
00:09:05.440 The most interesting thing about this show is that it is apparently still on the air.
00:09:10.460 I don't know if it's an indication that I'm out of touch or that American Idol is irrelevant,
00:09:14.080 but until this moment, I thought American Idol was canceled years ago.
00:09:18.100 Be that as it may, it was back in the cultural conversation ever so briefly this week, but
00:09:21.940 not for anything related to music or singing.
00:09:23.760 Instead, it was the story of one contestant, and more specifically, a judge's reaction to
00:09:29.020 that story that had people talking.
00:09:31.700 Watch.
00:09:31.920 In May 2018, a gunman walked into my school.
00:09:37.240 I was in art room one, and he shot up art room two before he made his way to art room
00:09:45.200 one.
00:09:47.260 Lost a lot of friends.
00:09:49.880 Eight students were killed.
00:09:52.620 Two teachers were killed.
00:09:54.560 And it's just really been negative, man.
00:09:56.680 Santa Fe's had a bad rap here since 2018.
00:10:05.660 What you doing, Katie?
00:10:07.240 Our country has failed us.
00:10:11.340 Facts.
00:10:13.260 This is not okay.
00:10:15.380 You should be singing here because you love music.
00:10:18.520 It's true.
00:10:19.560 Not because you don't have to go through that.
00:10:23.400 I agree.
00:10:24.300 You didn't have to lose eight friends.
00:10:27.560 I hope that you remind people that we have to change.
00:10:32.000 Because you know what?
00:10:33.040 I'm scared too.
00:10:35.420 They ask you how you are, you don't just have to say that.
00:10:37.240 You're fine when you're not really fine.
00:10:39.020 You just can't get into it because they would never understand.
00:10:41.620 Now, before we deal with the substance of Katy Perry's response to the extent that it
00:10:45.840 had any substance, we cannot ignore the incredible narcissism on display here by her. 0.98
00:10:50.960 You know what?
00:10:51.520 I'm scared too.
00:10:52.620 He is calmly recounting his own horrific experience, and Perry uses it as a platform to put on this
00:11:00.060 over-the-top emotional performance.
00:11:02.600 She even relates it back to herself somehow as her fellow judges comfort her.
00:11:07.440 They start patting her on the back and comforting her while the kid who was actually in the shooting
00:11:11.720 stands there and watches.
00:11:12.920 Here's a hint.
00:11:13.520 If someone is telling you about something awful that happened to them, your response should not
00:11:19.620 contain the words, I or me, unless you're saying something like, I'm so sorry, or I'm here for you.
00:11:26.700 But if you're attempting to put yourself at the center of this person's suffering or deflect from it so
00:11:32.220 that the focus is on you and your own emotions, then you are a classic narcissist.
00:11:37.760 And maybe worst of all, you're creating an incredibly awkward situation for everyone else who has to be
00:11:43.080 in the room with your lack of self-awareness.
00:11:45.900 I can only imagine how uncomfortable it must have been for that young man to be standing there,
00:11:49.060 not sure what to say or how to respond as Katy Perry launches into her camera-ready monologue 1.00
00:11:53.760 like she's auditioning for a soap opera.
00:11:56.900 You know what?
00:11:57.720 I'm scared, too.
00:11:59.260 A monologue that was planned, by the way, considering that the judges would have known ahead of time
00:12:03.260 that a contestant was coming up who'd been in a mass shooting.
00:12:06.660 I mean, I understand that this is a very cynical interpretation of events,
00:12:11.200 but I've been around long enough and I've been in media long enough
00:12:13.720 and I've met enough of these sorts of people to justify my cynicism.
00:12:18.100 But what about the actual point she was making in her scripted diatribe?
00:12:21.340 She says that the country has failed the victims and survivors of this school shooting.
00:12:26.140 And of course, she means specifically that it failed by not passing enough gun control laws
00:12:30.240 to prevent the shooting from happening.
00:12:31.740 Never mind that the shooter already broke a dozen different laws in carrying out his crime.
00:12:36.740 It's unclear how exactly it would have helped to add one or two more laws onto the pile
00:12:42.400 that the killer was already determined to disregard.
00:12:45.280 You can only make an act illegal so many times before the laws start to become redundant
00:12:50.560 and therefore useless.
00:12:53.380 Yet this is what we so often do in our culture.
00:12:55.500 When a bad thing happens, we declare that the bad thing is the result of some sort of failure.
00:13:00.600 It's always a systemic failure.
00:13:02.520 Failure of government, of policy.
00:13:04.700 People like Katy Perry take solace in the idea that all tragedies are policy failures
00:13:09.120 because, and really all bad things, you know, they say poverty is a policy failure too.
00:13:14.240 Because for one thing, it gives them an excuse to push their political agenda, obviously.
00:13:17.460 But for another, it comforts them to think that the right policies, if we could finally
00:13:21.840 land on them, would banish all the bad things from our midst.
00:13:26.100 When Perry says that the country failed because there was a school shooting, what she means
00:13:29.720 is that we ought to have a country where there are no shootings at all.
00:13:34.540 And she's right in the sense that every mass shooting and every bad thing shouldn't happen.
00:13:38.820 That's why it's a very bad thing.
00:13:40.560 If something is evil, like any evil shouldn't happen.
00:13:43.160 But Perry, like any other leftist, believes that a country without any murder, without
00:13:47.540 any bad people doing bad things, is actually practically achievable and that it can be
00:13:52.960 achieved through policy.
00:13:54.540 The irony, of course, is that the utopianists who imagine that a world of perfect peace
00:13:58.680 and harmony can really be achieved tend through their policies to create a world that is ever
00:14:03.580 farther away from peace and harmony.
00:14:05.780 Worlds like the world of Chicago, for example.
00:14:08.160 People with Katy Perry's worldview run most of our major American cities, and most of
00:14:13.420 our major American cities are violent, crime- and disease-ridden hellholes, which actually
00:14:17.140 isn't all that ironic when you realize that effective governance means understanding human
00:14:22.360 nature.
00:14:22.900 And understanding human nature means acknowledging that bad people will always exist and they
00:14:28.320 will always do bad things.
00:14:29.980 It's still true that a school shooting represents a failure.
00:14:33.020 In fact, it's a whole series of failures.
00:14:34.460 But they're mostly the kinds of failures that Katy Perry and her ilk never want to talk
00:14:39.600 about.
00:14:40.200 And they're the kinds of failures we skip over, focusing instead on debates over gun control.
00:14:45.380 And that itself is also a failure.
00:14:48.660 One which only ensures that this kind of thing will keep happening with the same or greater
00:14:53.260 frequency.
00:14:55.280 And that is why Katy Perry is today finally canceled.
00:14:59.640 And that is why Katy Perry. 0.94
00:15:08.540 She showed up for her story in theстран—
00:15:10.500 when Katy Perry is a thing, if she's a nonconist.
00:15:12.000 She knows the delay.
00:15:12.400 She likes to say she's overlusion.
00:15:13.260 She's overused by her with shouting in greenland.
00:15:14.840 She's overused by singing ineити initials.
00:15:16.100 She's overused by demanding women in the namuh quickятся as Tomya, on her really 1.00
00:15:20.000 playing together.
00:15:21.200 She died trying her out much health and herétat。 0.76