The Matt Walsh Show - Proof For Your Liberal Friend： The South African “White Genocide” Is Not Fake News

00:00:00.000 Ever since the death of Nelson Mandela, it's fair to call Cyril Ramaphoso, one of the few

00:00:18.000 surviving founding fathers of post-apartheid South Africa. He helped to write the country's

00:00:23.300 new constitution, which would supposedly usher in a new era of prosperity and equality. He also

00:00:28.360 oversaw the transition to the new government. And as South Africa descended into lawlessness

00:00:32.780 and squalor over the ensuing 30 years, Ramaphoso gradually accumulated more wealth and power until

00:00:37.440 he finally became the country's president in 2018. He's currently worth something like half a billion

00:00:42.320 dollars, even as the vast majority of South Africans now live in extreme poverty. What

00:00:48.260 this means is that Ramaphoso is the personification of South Africa's post-colonial experiment. When

00:00:54.400 he drafted the new constitution, he presumably did not foresee that by 2025, the country would

00:00:59.060 have the single highest unemployment rate of any country in the world at 40%. He certainly didn't

00:01:04.540 tell anyone that he eventually planned to sign new laws that would disenfranchise and rob white 0.96

00:01:08.960 farmers or that white people would be systematically slaughtered in their homes. But all that has 0.71

00:01:13.700 happened. And yet for all this time, no one and certainly no world leader has held this deranged

00:01:19.820 despot accountable for any of that. Instead, it's been something of a tradition in Washington to

00:01:24.580 pretend that South Africa is somehow a great ally to the United States and to treat Ramaphosa as royalty

00:01:30.340 as Joe Biden did a few years ago. But that tradition came to a very abrupt end yesterday in the Oval Office

00:01:36.420 when Donald Trump did something that no other political figure has ever done. He told Ramaphosa to

00:01:41.720 his face in the most public form imaginable that he's a fraud who is overseeing a white genocide. 0.96

00:01:47.660 In the process, Trump took a blowtorch to a mythology that pretty much every politician from both parties 0.95

00:01:53.300 has been desperate to uphold for several decades. Now, in order to understand the importance of what

00:01:59.980 Donald Trump communicated here, you have to first see exactly how he communicated it. First, of course,

00:02:05.540 Ramaphosa asked the United States for money because that's any visiting dignitary now. That's just that's

00:02:11.860 what they do. They come hat in hand as beggars asking for our money. And in this case,

00:02:17.420 he's done that because he's he's run his country into the ground and they can't even feed themselves

00:02:21.500 anymore. Then a reporter asked a patronizing question about what it would take for Trump to

00:02:26.640 stop repeating supposedly false claims about white genocide in South Africa. In other words,

00:02:31.360 the reporter is basically calling Trump a liar and asking him what it would take for him to stop lying.

00:02:35.760 And here's how that went. Our main, main real reason for being here is to foster trade and investment

00:02:45.700 so that we are able to grow our economy, your support. And so that we are also able to address

00:02:53.660 all these societal problems because criminality thrives when people are unemployed, when they have

00:03:00.640 no other hope to eke out a living. So that is what we need to resolve.

00:03:05.640 Mr. President, what will it take for you to be convinced that there's no white genocide in South Africa?

00:03:12.640 Well, I can answer that for President.

00:03:15.640 It will take President Trump listening to the voices of South Africa, some of whom are his good friends.

00:03:35.340 So after begging for cash, Ramaphosa validates what the reporter is saying, patronizes, is being patronizing

00:03:46.180 to the president of the United States, to our president. He says Donald Trump needs to listen

00:03:51.600 to the people of South Africa in order to stop lying about the alleged genocide of white people.

00:03:56.440 Probably the most obnoxious answer that he could have come up with, especially after dozens of South Africans 1.00

00:04:00.080 just fled the country in fear of their lives. But Trump was prepared for it. First of all,

00:04:04.680 Trump asked one of the white golfers that Ramaphosa brought with him, this is a two-time U.S. Open winner

00:04:11.580 named Ratif Goosen, what the situation was like in South Africa. And the golfer responded that his

00:04:17.280 father's friends who own farms had been murdered and the farms are constantly being torched. Watch.

00:04:24.020 I grew up in an area in South Africa that is a farmland area, Polakwani. And there is some issues up there,

00:04:32.600 obviously. My dad was a property developer as well as a part-time farmer. And yeah, some of these buddy farmers

00:04:40.900 got killed. The farm is still going. My brother's running. But it's a constant battle with farms trying

00:04:48.500 to get, they're trying to burn the farms down to chase you away. So it is a concern to try and make a living as a farmer.

00:04:57.500 And at the end, they, you know, without farmers, there's no food on the plate. So we need, we need

00:05:02.700 the farmers to produce the food. He wouldn't do it. He wouldn't even want to do what you're doing.

00:05:07.000 They love farming. They don't want to leave. But it's a struggle. Yeah. And, you know, food, food and fresh water

00:05:13.740 is the most important thing in life. You know, about those two things you can't supply. How is the water there?

00:05:19.100 The water is great, obviously. All the water comes out of the borehole, out of ground for us.

00:05:26.300 None of them. But yeah, it is a battle to get the water out sometimes when all the equipment gets stolen all the time that you're trying to get the water out.

00:05:34.100 So does your family and your brother, do they feel safe on the farm?

00:05:37.100 They live behind electric fences, you know, try and be at night safe. But it is, it is constant whenever you leave that, that something could happen.

00:05:50.100 And, you know, both of them has been attacked in their houses. My mom's been attacked in the house when she was 80. So it is, it is difficult.

00:06:02.100 So this is a pretty extraordinary moment, because keep in mind, this is one of the golfers that the president of South Africa brought to the Oval Office

00:06:10.100 as part of the South Africa's, you know, delegation, hoping he'd neutralize the supposedly fake narrative, quote unquote, about white genocide.

00:06:18.100 This is one of the people that the president of South Africa demanded obnoxiously that Trump listen to.

00:06:24.100 He said, all you have to do is listen to these people. And then it's like, you know, this is essentially a witness for the defense, you know, basically.

00:06:32.100 And this is what he says. So it didn't exactly go as planned, which probably tells you something about the level of planning that South Africa's government is capable of.

00:06:42.100 And things only got worse from there as Trump dimmed the lights in the Oval Office and played a tape of South African politicians openly calling for the murders of white farmers.

00:06:51.100 In other words, Trump once again called Ramaphosa's bluff. He listened to the calls for genocide coming from South Africans and he made Ramaphosa and the rest of the world listen to it as well.

00:07:01.100 And as you watch this, notice the expression on the South African president's face as he genuinely cannot believe what's happening. Watch.

00:07:10.100 It has to be responded to. Let me see the articles, please, if you would. And excuse me, turn the lights down. Turn the lights down and just put this on. It's right behind you.

00:07:23.100 There's nothing you can do. There's nothing this parliament can do. With or without you, people are going to occupy land. We require no permission from you, from the president, from no one.

00:07:36.100 We don't care. We don't care. We can do whatever you want to do. Who are you to tell us whether we can occupy land or not? We are going to occupy land, South Africa.

00:07:45.100 A revolution demands that at some point there must be killing because the killing is part of a revolution act. 0.99

00:07:55.100 Soon to kill the mother. Kill the poor, the farmer. Kill the poor, the farmer. 1.00

00:08:06.100 Kill the poor, the farmer. Kill the poor, the farmer. Kill the poor, the farmer. 1.00

00:08:15.100 Look, these are articles over the last few days. Death of people. Death. Death. Death. 1.00

00:08:27.100 Horrible death. Death. I don't know. To pick anyone. White South Africans are fleeing because of the violence and racist laws. And this is all. I mean, I'll give these to you.

00:08:43.100 So when you say, what would I like to do? I don't know what to do. Look at this. White South African couples say that they were attacked violently.

00:08:52.100 Well, I could do that. Look, here's burial sites all over the place. These are all white farmers that are being buried.

00:09:01.100 So just, I mean, it's an incredible moment. Again, remember the South African president, what cued this up perfectly.

00:09:09.100 And, um, you, I mean, you couldn't have, you could not have scripted it any better, uh, where the South African president said, well, what, you know, what Trump needs to do is just listen.

00:09:20.100 And so then Trump says, okay, we'll listen. Yeah, let's, let's do that. Let's, Hey, what do you think? Let's all listen. Let's all, let's all just listen for a moment.

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00:10:04.320 Try to imagine that you run South Africa. You're in charge of the African National Congress, not exactly an enviable position. Your country has the highest unemployment rate in the entire world. Since the end of apartheid, which was supposedly the greatest evil to ever befall mankind, a lot of bad things have been happening. The power grid has collapsed along with the export markets and any semblance of public safety.

00:10:24.340 Headlines like this one are common. As you can see, it reads,

00:10:29.280 Grandmother 71 dies of shock after she was forced to watch her three granddaughters being raped at gunpoint at her home in South Africa.

00:10:36.960 And there's plenty more where that came from because you have turned your country into the living embodiment of DEI to disastrous results.

00:10:43.220 And then, to your horror, the President of the United States decides to shine an international spotlight on your incompetence.

00:10:49.500 He makes it impossible to hide what's going on in South Africa.

00:10:52.980 Specifically, the President allows white citizens of South Africa to flee to the U.S.

00:10:57.000 so they can escape all the anti-white violence and race-based land seizures that you've implemented in your failing country.

00:11:02.840 And unsurprisingly, a lot of white people take the United States up on the offer. 0.65

00:11:06.420 They decide that it's better to uproot their entire families and fly halfway across the world than to spend another second under your rule in South Africa.

00:11:14.580 Now, if you have an ounce of shame, that would have to be extremely, monumentally embarrassing.

00:11:21.340 I mean, there are politicians in Japan who would quit, you know, quite literally commit, like, ritualistic suicide under those circumstances.

00:11:28.440 The job of any government is to look after the well-being of its own people.

00:11:34.300 And once the most productive members of society start leaving at great personal cost to themselves, then you have failed as a leader and as a government.

00:11:44.020 You are illegitimate.

00:11:45.540 And you have no one else to blame. 0.98

00:11:47.800 And you should resign in shame at the absolute minimum.

00:11:51.440 But the African National Congress has decided on the opposite course of action.

00:11:54.240 And rather than engage in any kind of introspection, they decided to attack the white refugees who have just fled to America. 0.62

00:12:00.100 They're not showing any interest in keeping any of the remaining Afrikaners from fleeing, even though they're responsible for maintaining the vast majority of usable farmland in the country. 0.93

00:12:09.560 They're also not interested in contesting the notion that white people are going to be persecuted in their country.

00:12:14.620 Instead, the African National Congress released this statement the other day.

00:12:19.300 As you can see, the statement reads, quote,

00:12:21.360 They flee not from persecution, but from justice, equality, and accountability for historic privilege.

00:12:27.260 The statement goes on to describe the refugees as cowardly and says that they are offended by a democratic society working to redress past injustices.

00:12:34.600 Then there's this concluding line, which really sells the message.

00:12:38.440 Quote,

00:12:39.000 Ours is not a broken or failing state.

00:12:41.640 It's a people's democracy advancing against the tides of distortion and destructive, divisive narratives.

00:12:47.020 Close quote.

00:12:48.500 Well, this is one of those, you know, those things that's less true for having been said, as the saying goes.

00:12:54.360 If you're running a highly functional, stable country,

00:12:57.380 then you're not going to end your press release out of nowhere by declaring that you're not a broken or failing state.

00:13:02.380 No state that isn't a failing state has ever had to clarify in a statement that they aren't a failing state.

00:13:09.080 And it's like walking up to your wife unprompted and announcing that you're not having an affair.

00:13:14.540 But none of these people are especially bright, so they're not aware of the implications of what they're saying,

00:13:19.460 no matter how obvious those implications might be.

00:13:21.980 It also explains why, in effect, their message is essentially an explicit threat to every white person in South Africa.

00:13:27.200 And they're also attempting to coax the refugees back with a promise of giving them the opportunity

00:13:33.920 to be held accountable for historical injustices.

00:13:37.460 They're basically saying, hey, guys, can you come back so we can persecute you?

00:13:40.580 This isn't fair.

00:13:41.520 We were going to persecute you, and then you left.

00:13:43.260 That's not fair.

00:13:45.040 Now, with this statement, they are validating everything the Trump administration says about the country.

00:13:48.480 No person of any race should be subjected to land seizures or violence as part of accountability for historic privilege,

00:13:55.680 whatever the heck that means.

00:13:57.060 But that's what the government of South Africa is now demanding by their own admission.

00:14:01.060 And it's what the political left is demanding in this country, too.

00:14:03.940 In the days since the first 59 white refugees arrived from South Africa,

00:14:08.440 political commentators on the left have been melting down to a degree that's truly hard to comprehend,

00:14:13.620 even given everything we already know about these people.

00:14:15.460 What we're seeing is primal rage and hysteria.

00:14:19.520 I mean, it's a level of anti-white race hatred that needs to be exposed,

00:14:23.660 or else very soon, you know, we're going to start to look a lot like South Africa.

00:14:28.140 So let's start with Don Lemon, who no longer has the need to temper his passion for white genocide 0.81

00:14:32.920 now that he's not on cable news.

00:14:35.460 Not that cable news personalities are tempering it very much, as we'll see later on.

00:14:38.740 But anyway, here's Don Lemon. 0.60

00:14:40.700 So this South African farmer, which is the most blatantly obvious racist ever, 0.72

00:14:50.600 it is blatantly obvious the way that we treat white South Africans, 0.81

00:14:56.060 who, by the way, for the most part, and I am generalizing here,

00:14:59.640 some of the wealthiest people are well-to-do people in the country.

00:15:02.940 They speak their language.

00:15:04.540 They're not just taking land away from white South African farmers.

00:15:09.740 White South Africans, about 9% of the population, owned 87% of the fertile land.

00:15:17.880 Okay?

00:15:18.740 Today, black South Africans make up more than 90% of the population,

00:15:23.760 and they only hold about 4% of all privately owned land.

00:15:28.960 So what they're trying to do is say, hey, we need to fix an historical injustice

00:15:34.660 and figure out if you're not using that land to farm,

00:15:40.080 then we need to have some of that land, not taking all of your entire farm,

00:15:43.820 that's not what's happening, and we need to what?

00:15:46.000 There needs to be equity.

00:15:47.480 And now people are crying because the playing field is being leveled,

00:15:50.900 and so therefore it is now discrimination.

00:15:53.700 Okay, so notice what is being said here.

00:15:55.920 Notice he says that white people own most of the fertile land in South Africa.

00:16:00.380 The word fertile is doing a lot of work there because, you know,

00:16:03.960 if you know anything about farmland, even if you don't know anything about it,

00:16:07.240 you should still know that it's possible to ruin it.

00:16:10.360 I mean, it's possible to do a very bad job of maintaining it,

00:16:13.380 and it's not as though you could just give a farm to a random person off the street

00:16:17.980 and rest assured that it's going to be fertile in 10 years.

00:16:21.960 And we know that for a few reasons.

00:16:23.460 First of all, it's common sense.

00:16:24.480 And second, Zimbabwe already tried this.

00:16:27.900 Several decades ago, they made the decision to seize farms from whites, 1.00

00:16:31.680 give them to black citizens.

00:16:33.580 After all, what could go wrong? 0.93

00:16:35.040 Well, you know, I mean, Zimbabwe was the breadbasket of Africa, supposedly.

00:16:39.760 Well, as it turns out, a lot can go wrong, like a whole lot.

00:16:44.900 And before long, Zimbabwe needed to import food because they couldn't make their own.

00:16:49.380 And eventually, the government gave up on the idea.

00:16:52.640 They gave the farmland back to the white people. 0.94

00:16:55.720 This is a Bloomberg News article from a few years ago.

00:16:57.900 Quote, Zimbabwe gives land back to white farmers after wrecking economy.

00:17:02.820 Two decades after President Robert Mugabe wrecked Zimbabwe's economy by urging black subsistence 1.00

00:17:08.480 farmers to violently force white commercial farmers and their workers off the land,

00:17:13.200 his successor has thrown in the towel.

00:17:14.800 The seizures that began in 2000 were ratified by the government,

00:17:17.980 which said they were needed to address colonial imbalances.

00:17:21.020 A vibrant agricultural industry that exported tobacco and roses and grew most of the food

00:17:26.120 the nation needed collapsed.

00:17:27.940 Periodic food shortages ensued.

00:17:29.560 Inflation became the world's highest and the manufacturing industry was decimated.

00:17:33.300 What was one of Africa's richest countries became one of its poorest.

00:17:36.840 Close quote.

00:17:38.440 Okay, so in other words, it turns out that when you use the government to redistribute

00:17:43.260 fertile farmland to correct some alleged injustice, what you get is famine.

00:17:49.480 Okay, that's what equity means in practice.

00:17:52.420 It's what always happens when you take land from people who are managing it properly

00:17:56.380 and redistribute it on the basis of race.

00:18:01.080 Competence matters, especially when you're talking about a country's food supply.

00:18:05.400 And make no mistake, the reason those white people control the farmland in South Africa 0.99

00:18:09.840 is because historically, they're competent.

00:18:13.700 They bought it.

00:18:14.500 They maintained it for generations.

00:18:16.460 Nobody handed it to them or maintained it for them.

00:18:19.380 The fact that it's still fertile, again, you can ruin farmland.

00:18:23.360 It's still fertile, even by Don Lemon's own testimony.

00:18:26.920 It's still fertile after generations.

00:18:28.940 What does that mean?

00:18:29.480 It means that they are properly managing the land. 0.88

00:18:32.040 And in many cases, they were there long before black South Africans arrived and demanded their property. 0.96

00:18:38.520 Now, in this debate, we are well past the point where the left can scream apartheid

00:18:42.660 and just get whatever they want.

00:18:43.800 Post-apartheid South Africa is simply too great of a disaster by every available metric.

00:18:48.120 And by the way, apartheid was nothing like what's currently being enacted in South Africa.

00:18:51.960 As we discussed the other day, you know, there were far fewer race-based laws under apartheid

00:18:56.720 than there are right now in South Africa.

00:18:58.340 And the race-based laws under apartheid, by and large, were directed at enforcing racial separation,

00:19:03.780 not large-scale farm seizures by the government without any limiting principle whatsoever.

The Matt Walsh Show - May 31, 2025

Proof For Your Liberal Friend： The South African “White Genocide” Is Not Fake News

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