The Matt Walsh Show - The Daily Wire Election Night Coverage

00:00:00.060 Hey everybody, this is Matt Walsh. Drop everything you're doing and check out the latest episode of Daily Wire Backstage.

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00:00:15.360 Welcome to the backstage coverage of the 2022 midterm elections.

00:00:20.360 This is the Daily Wire Plus. We're really glad that you're here with us.

00:00:23.760 Back in the olden times, when we first started this company, we would gather for a thing called Election Day.

00:00:28.520 And in our Election Day coverage, we would just stay with you until the results were known.

00:00:33.080 But that's back when this was a thriving republic.

00:00:35.380 Now that we've descended into third world madness, I cannot promise that we will still be with you 72 to 120 hours from now

00:00:42.100 when the final results are actually tallied before they're contested and then tallied again.

00:00:46.200 But we plan to be with you for a damn long time.

00:00:48.720 I'm joined tonight by my good friend, Ben Shapiro, my old friend, Andrew Klavan. 0.82

00:00:53.580 I mean, we've been friends a long time, and he's very old.

00:00:56.900 Matt Walsh.

00:00:57.740 And here tonight, to replace Clay Travis, who was the only man on the panel brave enough to wear red,

00:01:04.420 to lead with confidence, now Candice showing us all how it's done.

00:01:08.620 I just felt like I had to wear this. It was the only way to guarantee a red wave.

00:01:13.180 I'm just showing up.

00:01:14.540 Fabulous. Tell us, you've been watching, we've been here, you've been backstage,

00:01:18.540 you're probably a little bit more up-to-date on what's happening out there than we are.

00:01:21.380 How are you feeling about the night?

00:01:22.420 I feel great about the night.

00:01:23.560 I mean, obviously, I'm sure you guys have already discussed it, so I don't want to be redundant,

00:01:26.620 but the Maricopa thing is just like, what?

00:01:29.460 We actually have not talked about it.

00:01:30.940 How is it always Maricopa?

00:01:32.620 Well, you know, it's really important, Candice, to remember for all Americans,

00:01:35.920 do not take your right to vote for granted,

00:01:38.560 because there are people who live in places like North Korea and Afghanistan

00:01:42.700 and Maricopa County who don't have that right.

00:01:45.580 So, cherish it.

00:01:46.760 So, 20% of the voting machines are not able to tabulate the votes.

00:01:51.180 20% in the entire county.

00:01:52.980 That's just, it's unbelievable.

00:01:54.000 It doesn't even...

00:01:54.320 It took them by surprise.

00:01:55.400 Yeah.

00:01:55.580 The election took them by surprise.

00:01:56.360 They just don't know what they're going to do about it, and they're working on the issues,

00:01:59.500 and of course, people are already ahead, saying,

00:02:01.840 this is just the Republicans trying to pretend that there's some cheating.

00:02:03.940 Why don't you give us an understanding, a good explanation,

00:02:07.560 for why 20% of machines throughout an entire county in the free and fair elections that we have in America

00:02:13.820 are not working, and they've had years to work on these issues,

00:02:16.320 knowing that that was the place where all of the election lawsuits took place

00:02:19.740 when Trump said that there was, you know, trouble during the 2020 election.

00:02:23.240 You would think they would resolve the issues.

00:02:24.880 Why are we so invested now in these electronic voting machines in the first place?

00:02:30.580 They're terrible.

00:02:31.220 Britain doesn't use them, and they have a much better system.

00:02:33.160 I think you've got the answer, right?

00:02:35.480 Some people keep asking.

00:02:36.680 They say, well, you know, we know that paper ballots work,

00:02:39.900 and we know that there are no questions, and you get the answer on election night,

00:02:42.420 so why do we keep using these voting machines where it drags out for days and weeks,

00:02:46.260 and, oh, I got my answer.

00:02:47.460 Okay, never mind.

00:02:48.480 So, forgive me, because I haven't actually followed, like,

00:02:51.100 what the actual machines in Arizona are, so is it like you punch a screen,

00:02:53.920 or is it like you take a ballot, you fill out...

00:02:55.180 So I kid you not.

00:02:56.220 And then you feed it.

00:02:56.980 You feed that in Florida, too.

00:02:58.420 I voted early, like, three weeks ago.

00:03:00.000 It was exactly that machine.

00:03:00.800 They got the results same night.

00:03:01.840 It's just incompetence.

00:03:02.520 It's just incompetence. 1.00

00:03:03.300 It's not about how the machines are stupid or something. 1.00

00:03:05.100 It's incompetence. 1.00

00:03:05.740 The people who are there don't know what the hell they're doing.

00:03:07.100 I thought it was funny.

00:03:07.680 A lot of coincidences.

00:03:08.520 The White House spokeswoman said today, or yesterday,

00:03:12.880 when she was preparing everyone for the fact that it's going to take weeks to count the ballots,

00:03:17.000 she said, well, this is how it should work in modern elections.

00:03:20.900 And I'm like, so in modern time?

00:03:23.420 In 2022, it should take longer to count the ballots than it took in 1802?

00:03:26.740 Could we go back to some medieval elections, please?

00:03:28.800 Right, exactly.

00:03:29.060 To be a little more efficient.

00:03:31.000 By the way, a quick update on the Virginia 7th.

00:03:33.260 That is the Abigail Spanberger race. 0.98

00:03:34.480 She's currently losing by 10 points in that race. 1.00

00:03:37.040 Wow.

00:03:37.260 That's the Virginia 7th.

00:03:38.340 So that's a bellwether race.

00:03:39.960 And the Virginia 2nd district, it looks like Elaine Lurie is going to go down to defeat in that district as well. 1.00

00:03:44.180 It's going to be a good night.

00:03:45.780 Yeah.

00:03:45.960 That is.

00:03:46.380 And, you know, also, I mean, on this point, you raise it, Candace, of how everyone's talking about voter fraud,

00:03:52.480 whether it's going to be, if the Republicans have a great night, then the Democrats are going to say that we rigged the election.

00:03:57.680 And if the Democrats pull out some crucial races, then we're going to say that they rigged the election.

00:04:02.100 And that's just a fact, that everyone is an election denier, and it's for two reasons.

00:04:08.240 The Democrats say that it's illegitimate when the Republicans win because the Democrats don't consider us legitimate participants in our democracy.

00:04:15.960 And Biden says that we're terrorists and fascists, and our very existence poses a threat to the country.

00:04:20.940 And then we don't believe it when they win close elections because they rig the elections and brag about it in time magazine.

00:04:28.240 The distinction, though, is that Democrats don't talk about voter fraud.

00:04:32.200 For them, it's voter suppression. 0.61

00:04:33.480 Suppression.

00:04:34.040 They're already talking.

00:04:34.720 And the thing about voter suppression, it's a much more unfalsifiable theory.

00:04:37.800 Yes.

00:04:38.220 Because you can always just say, well, more people would have turned out if you hadn't suppressed the vote.

00:04:42.860 Even with very high voter participation.

00:04:45.440 They actually said.

00:04:46.340 As Abrams said, you can have a high voter participation and voter suppression at the same time.

00:04:51.360 They're already lying.

00:04:52.540 They're in that state.

00:04:53.260 It's one of the reasons why their whole war on democracy nonsense is just not being paid attention to.

00:04:56.700 Because the same Democrats who are out to say, oh, you denied an election.

00:04:59.360 Oh, you're saying voter fraud.

00:05:00.620 We all know.

00:05:01.540 I mean, they already started.

00:05:02.240 Jason Johnson on MSNBC was already going nuts like three hours ago because he knew which way this night is going to go.

00:05:07.120 He was already going absolutely ape-leap over the notion that there was voter suppression in Georgia.

00:05:13.180 There's no voter suppression in Georgia.

00:05:14.400 There were simultaneous articles that were coming out saying the wait time at Georgia polling places is three minutes.

00:05:18.920 Three.

00:05:19.480 It sounds just like Iraq 2005 with the purple fingers in the air.

00:05:22.340 We should also underscore what they consider to be voter suppression because it's actually humorous and it's good to laugh at. 0.92

00:05:27.320 It's like black Americans don't know how to get ID. 1.00

00:05:29.860 Yep. 0.99

00:05:30.600 That's the thing.

00:05:31.560 And we really should talk about how difficult it is.

00:05:34.640 The latest one, they say that voters are being starved and not given water because you're not, you can't get, and I kid you, I'm walking to the polls today with sweet little Alisa and she turns to me totally deadpan.

00:05:44.900 She goes, Mac, I'm just so hungry.

00:05:48.200 Where's my steak?

00:05:49.420 Where's my caviar?

00:05:50.260 If you can't bribe them outside of the polling place, it's voter fraud.

00:05:55.440 It's like the actual Democrat position.

00:05:57.220 If you cannot, well, how are they supposed to stand there without free cigarettes?

00:06:00.180 By the way, you're supposed to stand in line and not get free cigarettes.

00:06:01.980 As long as we're talking about the soft bigotry of low expectations, can we talk about what a racist Joe Biden is for a second?

00:06:06.680 So Joe Biden was asked the other day, he's like, what did you do for black voters?

00:06:09.360 He's like, well, I did get rid of marijuana convictions.

00:06:12.440 Dude, like, what?

00:06:17.400 Like, that's your first, and then he went to a historically black college and university, and he's like, you know, you guys can be just as smart.

00:06:22.760 He literally said this.

00:06:23.720 He was like, what?

00:06:25.200 You guys can be just as smart.

00:06:27.060 He's like, everybody else can be just as smart.

00:06:29.340 What?

00:06:30.000 How does he get, I mean, like, granted he's senile, but like. 0.65

00:06:32.580 But he's also a terrible person. 0.80

00:06:34.820 He's always been a terrible person. 0.99

00:06:36.680 He's been dishonest. 0.99

00:06:37.500 He's been venal.

00:06:38.140 I'm sure he's taking 10% of everything on Thursday.

00:06:40.620 And he lies and lies and lies.

00:06:43.100 And to talk about throwing him under the bus, the New York Times actually fact-checked him, checked him the other day and said, you know, everything he says is actually untrue.

00:06:51.460 Like, almost everything.

00:06:52.280 They actually debunked almost everything.

00:06:53.980 And the Washington Post now has the infinite Pinocchios for him, you know?

00:06:57.940 So they're done with it.

00:06:59.320 They're done with Joe.

00:07:00.040 Joe's gone.

00:07:00.340 The floodgates have opened, right?

00:07:01.180 I mean, George Will, you saw how he went after with, like, a claw hammer.

00:07:05.220 He went after Biden.

00:07:06.440 It was one of the most brutal pieces I've ever seen, especially for a guy who voted for Biden, right?

00:07:09.440 He went after Biden, and then he went after Kamala, too.

00:07:11.440 Kamala's just standing there, and he's just like, well, I'm at this. 0.97

00:07:14.320 I'm just going to take you out because you're terrible.

00:07:16.660 And all he does for the Kamala Harris stuff is he just quotes her.

00:07:19.440 He just literally quotes her.

00:07:20.400 It's amazing.

00:07:21.260 Think about Biden. 1.00

00:07:21.940 Just a couple days ago, Biden, he lashed out at some people that were holding signs outside of his speech and called them idiots. 1.00

00:07:27.040 And, like, that's actually, that's the kind of thing that Trump never did. 0.99

00:07:31.400 I mean, Trump will go after the media, go after his political opponents, and he's ruthless.

00:07:34.700 But he never actually attacked just normal people.

00:07:36.720 Yeah.

00:07:36.920 Right.

00:07:37.040 And this is something that Biden does all the time.

00:07:38.820 He goes after just regular people. 0.99

00:07:40.260 He's fat. 0.94

00:07:40.740 Right. 0.99

00:07:41.440 But those are the people they hate.

00:07:44.820 They hate the regular people.

00:07:45.620 Right, because the truth is that the people that Trump hates tend to be elites that he hangs out with.

00:07:49.520 But he actually kind of hates them and scorns them.

00:07:50.900 He actually kind of likes, like, the welders and the firefighters.

00:07:52.680 And the people that Biden actually likes are all the people he pretends to hate, which are, like, the rich people in those rooms.

00:07:57.560 But he hates the common man.

00:07:59.280 Oh, my God.

00:07:59.860 Like, he scorns the common man. 1.00

00:08:01.020 Those people are dullards and idiots. 1.00

00:08:02.520 Those are the people that you use as the rubes and the suckers that you can get ahead. 1.00

00:08:06.000 By the way, exit poll from my favorite state of Florida.

00:08:08.960 Ron DeSantis won Latino voters by 13 points.

00:08:11.380 Wow.

00:08:11.740 By 30 Latinos. 0.97

00:08:13.220 I don't know how he did it among Latinxs, though.

00:08:14.300 He won them by 13 points.

00:08:15.200 He won them by 13 points.

00:08:16.440 56 to 43.

00:08:17.500 He won Latinos outright 56 to 33.

00:08:19.500 Now, it is true.

00:08:20.520 It is true that in.

00:08:21.760 It isn't.

00:08:22.400 It is true that in Florida, a lot of the Latino vote is made up by Cubans.

00:08:25.940 Yeah.

00:08:26.180 Yeah.

00:08:26.440 No, but there's a heavy Venezuelan population.

00:08:29.180 And a heavy Venezuelan population.

00:08:30.700 I don't know what socialism is.

00:08:32.180 Yeah.

00:08:32.460 Yeah, that's right.

00:08:33.120 So that you can't really see them.

00:08:33.880 By the way, South Texas is about to see a red wave also.

00:08:36.540 And South Texas is not Cuban. 0.98

00:08:38.640 So the Hispanic vote is not, not only is it not a reliably Democratic vote, this is the thing.

00:08:42.880 This comes back to what you do, Matt.

00:08:44.280 You know, the fact is, and also what you did, Candace, I think two things people have missed about the Hispanic vote.

00:08:49.160 One, they don't like trans and kids, as it turns out.

00:08:51.480 Latinos are socially very, very, very conservative.

00:08:54.580 Very conservative.

00:08:55.540 And two, the Democratic Party, in embracing Black Lives Matter and basically suggesting that all people of color are exactly the same.

00:09:02.320 And therefore, you could group into one group, the people of color.

00:09:05.600 And the Hispanics would also be in favor of defunding. 0.53

00:09:07.440 But black people weren't in favor of defunding the police.

00:09:09.300 Only Democrats were in favor of defunding the police.

00:09:11.340 So they treat blacks as a voter bloc.

00:09:12.960 And then they treat blacks and Hispanics as a voter bloc.

00:09:15.620 And then they treat blacks, Hispanics, and Asians as a voter bloc while simultaneously saying that Asians should not be able to get into college.

00:09:21.500 It's like, I can't imagine why you guys are losing.

00:09:23.700 Maybe it's because you just keep creating these labels that no one actually can.

00:09:27.500 By the way, Hispanics don't even categorize themselves that way.

00:09:29.820 If you ask a Hispanic person where they are from, they will say, what country? 1.00

00:09:33.720 Right?

00:09:34.920 Nobody says, I'm Hispanic.

00:09:36.260 They say, I'm from Cuba.

00:09:37.340 I mean, even that categorization didn't really exist until the 1970s.

00:09:41.100 It was sort of a Ford Foundation creation, you know.

00:09:43.500 I wonder if now Joe Biden will run for re-election on Build the Wall.

00:09:46.660 I think that's why we're going to keep those people out of the country.

00:09:49.160 What is the push?

00:09:49.820 It doesn't make sense.

00:09:50.400 It doesn't add up.

00:09:50.920 Like, what is their push for open borders?

00:09:52.500 Because it's showing you that the country, Latino voters, are going right. 0.98

00:09:56.460 So what is their push?

00:09:57.620 Like, what are they trying to do?

00:09:58.700 I think what they're going to try to do eventually is to welfarize people over the border.

00:10:02.780 They're not going to have any IDs.

00:10:03.960 You know, they're not going to have anything.

00:10:04.760 And they'll say, oh, we're just going to make you a citizen overnight if you vote for us.

00:10:07.140 And then that will be the big push, you know.

00:10:08.940 Like, they'll vote illegally and then they'll promise them a bunch of things and kind of turn them into black America circa 1960s. 0.94

00:10:15.360 You know what I mean?

00:10:16.060 Hilarious.

00:10:16.440 It didn't work, though.

00:10:17.480 Offer them welfare handouts because they don't have anything.

00:10:19.900 By the way, remember that time that Ron DeSantis was going to lose the election because he sent some Hispanic illegal immigrants up to Martha's Vineyard? 1.00

00:10:25.600 Remember that time?

00:10:26.140 And now he's winning by 16 points.

00:10:27.960 By the way, Sean Trendy has an update on Georgia.

00:10:30.360 So he says that right now Walker is running about four points behind Kemp.

00:10:33.860 If that holds consistently, then Kemp has to get more than 54 percent of the raw vote in order for Walker to surpass the 50 percent.

00:10:39.760 That could happen.

00:10:40.620 Which is possible.

00:10:41.120 That's possible.

00:10:41.860 But that's close.

00:10:42.400 That's a close thing.

00:10:43.220 And again, candidate equality matters.

00:10:44.720 Yeah, I think that part of what we're seeing is that the Democrats starting in the 60s ran a very cynical play to categorize people in the country, divide them off from one another, and then try to build a coalition out of the pieces.

00:11:01.060 The sort of not, let's call it non-majoritarian pieces.

00:11:03.460 So divide you by race, divide you by gender, divide you by income bracket, take everything that's not majority and build a majority out of that.

00:11:12.540 But it turns out people don't like being categorized and people don't like being treated like Chesney.

00:11:17.300 They don't like racism, you mean?

00:11:18.460 And during one of Donald Trump's positive effects on the electorate is that he essentially reached over and just took some of those categories that they had consolidated for themselves and he offered them an alternative.

00:11:31.240 And now these blocks that the left created are no longer their blocks anymore.

00:11:36.020 And I think what you'll see is that more and more of the Democrats are just going to be the party of college-educated white elites.

00:11:44.460 They're already there.

00:11:45.300 I also think that when you think about how Democrats think about Hispanics or how they think about black Americans or Jews, for that matter, whenever they think of these groups, they think of a single person that they know who is black or is Hispanic.

00:11:57.280 And then they think, well, all of them must be like that.

00:11:59.000 So they know a Hispanic person.

00:11:59.940 That Hispanic person, they love illegal immigration. 1.00

00:12:02.060 So if we run on illegal immigration, we'll totally win all the Hispanics. 1.00

00:12:05.220 And it turns out that by polling data, Hispanics don't love illegal immigration.

00:12:08.700 They actually don't like it very much at all, which is why the big surprise of 2016 is that Donald Trump runs a campaign where he's like, that Mexican judge is terrible.

00:12:15.020 And then he wins exactly the same percentages that Mitt Romney won in 2012, running not that way.

00:12:20.240 And the same thing is true with black Americans. 0.99

00:12:22.460 The Democrats, they're like, you know, my black friend also hates the police.

00:12:26.220 And my black friend, who I went to Wellesley with, thinks that we should defund the police.

00:12:29.820 And meanwhile, they're like, people in Baltimore are like, what the?

00:12:33.120 We need some police around here.

00:12:34.440 Yeah, exactly.

00:12:35.300 Where are the police?

00:12:36.560 This is not the way that you do this stuff.

00:12:38.420 But I'll go back to a point that I made earlier.

00:12:41.340 The Twitterization of our politics has hurt Democrats so much worse than it's hurt Republicans because they've created this bubble for themselves.

00:12:46.700 The media, their Praetorian Guard, have protected them to such an extent.

00:12:50.060 They have no immune system.

00:12:50.980 Democrats have no immune system at this point.

00:12:53.140 It's basically like the rich kids who would get polio really easily back in the 1920s because they'd never been exposed to mud.

00:12:59.400 And then all the poor kids wouldn't get polio because they'd be out, like, playing and they'd have an immune system that had actually developed.

00:13:03.620 But they also don't understand how porous the Internet is because toward the end, for the beginning of the Internet age, when TV was basically dominant, they really had sealed off the information system.

00:13:15.380 They really were living in that bubble.

00:13:17.000 But the Internet is pretty hard to seal off.

00:13:19.800 It's everywhere.

00:13:20.560 Actually, the thing about the Internet, too, is that if you're using it, you need to have a VPN.

00:13:26.820 Whoa, man.

00:13:28.100 Wow.

00:13:28.380 That was pretty good.

00:13:28.760 That was good.

00:13:29.820 That was like, how are you push?

00:13:31.400 I just ruined it by celebrating.

00:13:32.700 It's okay.

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00:14:51.340 I wanted to say something about the Twitter thing, which is really interesting.

00:14:54.060 Maybe, Matt, you noticed this as well.

00:14:55.580 Because one of the things that boggled my mind before Elon got there and kind of made everybody run and spread some light was that the trends on Twitter never made sense.

00:15:04.560 Like, what was the chances that Trans Visibility Day was trending three times a week, right?

00:15:10.180 And I would go, these trends make no sense.

00:15:11.740 It's so clear that their manufacturing trends aren't actually trends.

00:15:14.320 72 likes.

00:15:15.440 Yes.

00:15:16.280 But then now, all of a sudden, you look, and I'm looking at the trends today, and it's all like red tsunami.

00:15:22.280 Maricopa County.

00:15:22.920 Yes, it's all suddenly very conservative trends all the time.

00:15:26.740 So, I thought that was really fascinating, and it's very clear that they were manufacturing those trends.

00:15:31.340 It's never been lost on me that the three people, three of the people at this table, Matt, Ben, and Candace, would literally trend three times a week.

00:15:40.540 It doesn't matter what you guys did.

00:15:42.400 And they had a methodology.

00:15:43.340 But always negatively.

00:15:44.380 Always.

00:15:44.760 Every single time.

00:15:45.960 One account, he tweets one 10-second video of us, and then suddenly it's trending.

00:15:49.520 Well, what would happen, the pattern I noticed, and it was actually kind of fun, because you could see it.

00:15:52.920 Is that you'd have a good day, right?

00:15:54.740 You'd have like a good day, a good story would come out, and it would get a lot of coverage.

00:15:58.480 And then you wouldn't trend.

00:15:59.720 And then the next day, there would be like a tiny story with no coverage.

00:16:01.800 Right.

00:16:02.020 And then they would trend that.

00:16:02.820 That would be the thing that they trended.

00:16:04.260 They would like glom on to the old trend in order to create the new trend.

00:16:06.540 Actually, I'm kind of curious.

00:16:07.320 How many followers have you randomly picked up since Elon took over Twitter?

00:16:10.720 Oh, my gosh.

00:16:11.440 So many.

00:16:11.940 I'm up 85,000.

00:16:13.740 200,000?

00:16:14.760 Yeah.

00:16:15.120 Yeah, you know, when What Is a Woman came out, We Were Climbing, What Is a Woman was trending.

00:16:19.700 It was climbing into the top five, and then just magically it disappeared and never returned to the top trends ever.

00:16:26.240 Well, they also killed trends.

00:16:27.440 Right.

00:16:27.720 It was there, and then the next second it was gone.

00:16:30.880 And no matter what happened, it never went back again.

00:16:32.720 Just like your gender. 1.00

00:16:34.540 It is gone.

00:16:35.400 I was going to ask, have any of you trended for a good reason before?

00:16:38.620 I guess you did make a trend, at least, out of What Is a Woman in that first time.

00:16:41.680 Right, until they got rid of it.

00:16:42.780 They said, you can't trend for that.

00:16:43.680 But that's good.

00:16:44.200 Never, not once. 0.99

00:16:44.820 And I used to play this game because I knew they were manufacturing trends, is that when they would force me to trend over something really stupid,

00:16:49.880 I would pretend I didn't understand what I was trending over, and I would be like, thank you so much.

00:16:53.840 I'm so glad to see that I'm trending over my new documentary.

00:16:56.460 And they instantly would kill the trend.

00:16:59.820 Thank you so much.

00:17:01.440 My documentary is trending.

00:17:03.340 Fun and quick update from VA10.

00:17:05.080 So VA10 is that district I mentioned earlier that is a D-plus-18 district.

00:17:08.460 Currently, Hung Kao, who is, as the name might suggest, not a white man,

00:17:11.660 he is currently up slightly on Jennifer Wexson, the Democrat incumbent.

00:17:16.180 That is a D-plus-18 district.

00:17:17.960 There's a reason why.

00:17:18.880 People were wondering, why is Jill Biden and Joe, they actually went and campaigned there, like, in the last two days.

00:17:23.060 Why are they campaigning in a D-plus-18 district?

00:17:25.280 That doesn't make any sense.

00:17:26.260 Wow.

00:17:26.380 That's the reason they were campaigning in a D-plus-18 district.

00:17:28.600 Well, let's get an update on what's going on in some of these races by going to our Election Wire team.

00:17:33.560 We've got John Bickley and Cabot Phillips here to let us know.

00:17:36.960 They're following this a lot more closely than we can because they're not, you know, eating popcorn and gabfesting

00:17:41.460 and talking about how great it is that we trend on Twitter all the time.

00:17:44.720 These guys will never trend on Twitter.

00:17:46.800 That is an absolute fact.

00:17:47.580 They're working for a living.

00:17:48.500 Yeah, they're working for a living.

00:17:50.060 And they're here to let us know what's going on.

00:17:51.600 So, there's an update from the state of Arkansas.

00:17:54.400 Sarah Huckabee Sanders is officially the next governor of Arkansas.

00:17:58.100 That race has been called.

00:17:59.140 Not a huge surprise, but definitely a big name for Republicans.

00:18:02.080 Going out to Georgia, the latest polling results were about 36 percent in.

00:18:06.880 Raphael Warnock is at 53.

00:18:08.680 Herschel Walker, 45.4.

00:18:11.080 Abrams, 49.7.

00:18:13.020 Kemp, 49.7.

00:18:14.460 Now, these numbers are a bit deceiving.

00:18:16.060 The reason we're seeing it skewed for Democrats right now,

00:18:18.360 Fulton County, which includes Atlanta and is by far the most populous county in the state,

00:18:22.400 is at 62 percent reporting right now.

00:18:24.180 So, most of those numbers are coming from there.

00:18:25.920 We're also seeing a good number of votes come in from Gwinnett, DeKalb, Cobb,

00:18:29.460 all those counties surrounding Atlanta.

00:18:30.860 So, definitely expect it to get tighter in Georgia.

00:18:33.680 The big number we're tracking right now is how close to Governor Kemp,

00:18:37.440 Herschel Walker, can stay.

00:18:38.640 Right now, he's down by about 4.3 points.

00:18:41.860 So, if you expect Kemp to get around 55 points,

00:18:44.680 Walker, you'd expect also to get above 50 percent based on the trends that we've seen so far.

00:18:48.560 So, keep an eye on that.

00:18:49.240 As long as Walker's within four to five points,

00:18:52.280 it should bode well for Republican chances there in the Senate.

00:18:55.480 Just a little bit of a, you know, look back at Florida.

00:18:57.800 Obviously, the race has already been called for DeSantis.

00:18:59.740 He's about 57 percent right now.

00:19:02.000 For context, in 2018, Ron DeSantis won the governor's race by 30,000 votes.

00:19:06.600 He is up 1.1 million votes right now, 30,000 to 1.1 million.

00:19:11.780 Charlie Crist, also the first candidate to lose statewide race at all three parties,

00:19:16.580 independent, Republican, and Democrat now.

00:19:18.600 Just a notable award there.

00:19:21.080 And finally, there have been four House pickups so far that have been called.

00:19:24.580 All four have been among Republicans, and all four have been in the state of Florida.

00:19:29.500 So, Florida is, as you guys said earlier, it's looking more and more like a red state.

00:19:33.660 Solid pickups there.

00:19:34.300 But we'll keep an eye on Georgia right now.

00:19:35.720 Pennsylvania results also starting to come in.

00:19:37.180 We'll have an update a little later from there.

00:19:40.720 Thank you, Cabot.

00:19:41.500 And do we have any word yet on who will be the next pope?

00:19:44.760 You know?

00:19:46.120 Well, Stacey Abrams.

00:19:47.380 Stacey Abrams has declared herself.

00:19:48.840 Oh, she was the last pope.

00:19:49.840 She named the pope.

00:19:50.740 You mean the current pope.

00:19:51.960 Stacey Abrams.

00:19:53.100 We have not mentioned the moon.

00:19:55.020 Have we mentioned the moon is literally red?

00:19:56.320 Turning, turning, turning, blood, red, yeah.

00:19:58.140 I did not know that.

00:19:58.940 A blood moon.

00:19:59.480 We've got a blood moon today.

00:20:00.540 There's actually a red moon on the red.

00:20:02.580 Are we the baddies?

00:20:05.300 Did you see the CBS News clip that was going around a little bit earlier today where CBS

00:20:08.560 News went around Florida looking for a Charlie Chris supporter?

00:20:10.980 Oh.

00:20:11.180 And they literally could not find a Charlie Chris supporter.

00:20:13.720 It's super funny.

00:20:14.800 They're, like, walking around, the reporter's like, do any of you support Charlie?

00:20:17.380 They're like, who?

00:20:18.760 Charlie, what?

00:20:19.780 Yeah, they said we could only find him at Charlie Chris rallies.

00:20:22.020 Yeah.

00:20:22.640 At least they can.

00:20:23.260 Charlie Chris has run out of parties.

00:20:24.640 Like, he literally has run every party on the ballot.

00:20:26.800 There are no more parties for Charlie Chris.

00:20:28.280 He tweeted it earlier today.

00:20:30.320 Today is the day we vote Ron DeSantis out.

00:20:32.280 This one goes alongside the congratulations to the future president.

00:20:35.160 Happy birthday to this future president.

00:20:36.880 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:37.700 Can't be on an amazingly bad tweet.

00:20:40.280 They are, I do love the Democrats because they won't quit on a candidate just because they've

00:20:44.480 got a few losses to their name.

00:20:45.840 Like, Beto is a genuinely terrible candidate.

00:20:48.700 There isn't, there is not a human being on Earth who isn't, like, a 28-year-old disgruntled

00:20:55.480 housewife who thinks that Beto O'Rourke could be elected to any office. 1.00

00:21:00.000 And he's never been anything.

00:21:01.360 He was a backbench congressman.

00:21:03.100 Then he lost a bunch of races.

00:21:05.000 And he, and he's not even a great skateboarder.

00:21:07.440 How many times do you, like, try out for the team before you realize you just don't have it?

00:21:10.560 You know what I mean?

00:21:10.980 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:11.040 And five.

00:21:11.640 How much money do they waste? 1.00

00:21:12.200 I mean, I'm just guessing.

00:21:13.480 Because the Democrats have a habit of making stars out of complete incompetence, they then

00:21:17.540 dump endless sums of money into these races.

00:21:19.980 I mean, you know how much money they put behind Stacey Abrams? 0.99

00:21:21.920 Well, that's why they keep running, because that's actually a way to sustain your lifestyle

00:21:25.880 when you just keep running.

00:21:27.120 She's much more egregious than Beto, I think.

00:21:29.380 Because at least Beto has something of a personality, I suppose.

00:21:33.120 But Stacey Abrams is just nothing. 1.00

00:21:34.740 She has nothing at all.

00:21:36.180 She doesn't even have charisma. 1.00

00:21:37.260 And they keep trying to insist.

00:21:38.600 They demand that we believe that she has some sort of political sensation.

00:21:41.920 It's the other side of the fact that Republicans or conservatives don't pay enough attention

00:21:46.020 to storytelling, because they believe the facts will carry us through.

00:21:49.200 But the other side is they don't pay attention to the facts at all.

00:21:51.700 And they believe the story is all that matters.

00:21:54.420 We haven't got the messaging.

00:21:55.640 We're not telling our story. 0.96

00:21:56.740 Your story stinks. 0.84

00:21:57.980 I have a question. 0.93

00:21:58.480 Can you feel democracy dying right now?

00:21:59.980 I can feel it. 0.76

00:22:00.980 I tried to kill it at the polls. 0.98

00:22:04.100 This will be the last.

00:22:05.140 I mean, the good news is we won't have to do this again, right?

00:22:06.760 I mean, this will be the last election.

00:22:09.200 I've been reliably informed there will be no more elections after this ever again.

00:22:11.580 What's really interesting about this is the emergency never ends.

00:22:15.160 So that, like, when global cooling becomes global warming, there's absolutely no break.

00:22:20.340 And people say, well, maybe global nothing.

00:22:22.480 Maybe we're fine.

00:22:23.120 And when democracy doesn't die, if Republicans win and democracy doesn't die, there will

00:22:27.520 be no change in the state of emergency.

00:22:29.740 Well, this, I think, is especially pronounced in this race.

00:22:32.920 We're talking about this absolute vacuity, this vapidity in the Democrat candidates.

00:22:38.080 And the same cannot be...

00:22:39.080 I don't even know what vacuity or vacuity are.

00:22:40.960 They sound really nice.

00:22:42.300 And they're alliterative.

00:22:44.000 So you're not seeing that with the Republicans this year.

00:22:47.700 The Republicans have a clear message.

00:22:49.100 Some people aren't going to like the clear message.

00:22:50.480 But you look at a candidate like J.D. Vance in Ohio, he's not just giving you the same

00:22:55.360 tired old, well, you know, I'm going to cut your taxes kind of stuff.

00:22:58.160 He's saying we need to have a pro-family policy.

00:23:01.700 He's like talking about Victor Orban on the campaign trail.

00:23:04.120 He's got a vision.

00:23:05.380 This is what I mean.

00:23:06.120 This is a new Republican Party coming in.

00:23:08.060 It's not the same old guys.

00:23:09.380 And I think it's better.

00:23:10.400 And I think that the old Republican Party should give way and let them start to come in.

00:23:13.800 Totally.

00:23:14.080 And what's interesting...

00:23:14.620 Come on! 0.61

00:23:15.320 This is...

00:23:16.040 I'm going to meh you now.

00:23:18.740 That's what I'm usually...

00:23:19.660 That's what I'm usually more right than I am.

00:23:21.340 So you tell me.

00:23:22.220 What unifies the Dr. Oz campaign and the...

00:23:24.600 No, the Dr. Oz...

00:23:25.320 Or what unifies the campaigns of Ted Bud in North Carolina and J.D. Vance?

00:23:31.260 Those are both competitive races.

00:23:32.600 And Ted Bud's going to win.

00:23:33.680 But the answer is that this entire campaign, like all midterm campaigns, is Donald Sutherland

00:23:38.200 at the end of Body Snatchers pointing at the Democrats and going like...

00:23:41.100 That's all that's happening right here.

00:23:42.780 And you can hang on that.

00:23:44.040 There's a full...

00:23:45.300 Well, fine.

00:23:46.260 Let's see how Blake Masters does in Arizona before we triumph.

00:23:48.300 No, no.

00:23:49.220 I said if.

00:23:50.080 I said if.

00:23:50.700 But the thing is, what Noel says...

00:23:52.320 I like Blake, by the way.

00:23:52.980 I want Blake to win.

00:23:53.720 My point is that if you're saying that the nationalist conservative agenda has now been

00:23:57.180 completely justified by J.D. Vance...

00:23:58.580 No, no.

00:23:58.900 No, no.

00:23:59.280 No, no.

00:23:59.360 Come on.

00:24:00.000 Come on.

00:24:00.800 That's not it.

00:24:01.680 What Noel said is, I think, half true.

00:24:04.080 It's not Trump.

00:24:05.120 It's what Trump represents.

00:24:06.380 Yes.

00:24:06.660 This is the voice of the people.

00:24:08.560 It is the voice of the people.

00:24:09.640 They do want...

00:24:10.300 They want some government spending.

00:24:13.040 As Henry Olsen said years and years ago, Republicans are going to have to accept that there's such a thing

00:24:17.280 as a welfare state and stop talking about something that's not coming back.

00:24:20.880 But they do not want this radical, crazed agenda that has been put forward, and the Republicans

00:24:26.740 have not been strong enough.

00:24:28.060 I mean, this is the thing.

00:24:29.240 You know, John McCain, Jeb Bush, who they thought was going to be their candidate of all

00:24:35.420 people, Mitt Romney, these guys have got to go.

00:24:37.880 These guys do not represent anybody but a party in the middle of Washington.

00:24:41.960 They don't represent the people. 0.84

00:24:43.640 And the reason I mention J.D. and Blake, too, I really hope Blake pulls it out, but that's

00:24:49.700 going to be a tougher race.

00:24:50.560 But the reason I mention this, and I say, maybe you like the vision, maybe you don't

00:24:53.340 like the vision, but when you look at the Democrats, what is the Democrats' position

00:24:56.860 on crime?

00:24:57.620 Let all the criminals out of jail, and also, we're going to be really tough on crime.

00:25:00.780 What's their position on immigration?

00:25:02.040 Open up the borders.

00:25:02.860 We're going to be really tough on the borders.

00:25:04.340 What's their position on foreign policy?

00:25:05.980 What's their position on anything?

00:25:07.240 They have no position.

00:25:08.200 They are actually represented by Joe Biden, wandering around aimlessly on stage.

00:25:13.180 They have no governing agenda.

00:25:14.460 And I was going to say, they were just releasing, I mean, essentially, they were going to run

00:25:17.800 on abortion, right?

00:25:19.660 And they were just releasing scary movie trailers, which were actually funny.

00:25:23.640 Like, they were, I was like, this must be an SNL skit, but it was really them being like,

00:25:26.960 this is what's going to happen if you allow Republicans to win.

00:25:30.260 And it turned out that...

00:25:30.820 There's a cute baby in the closet, like, oh, that's cute.

00:25:33.160 It was totally weird.

00:25:34.440 I was like, is this actually, this is going to be their big pitch?

00:25:36.340 And it turned out, which is really interesting, and I said this when people were, you know,

00:25:40.080 talking about the Supreme Court and Roe v. Wade, I said, this is going to be inconsequential.

00:25:43.840 This is going to be inconsequential.

00:25:44.900 Because what is going to matter is people, the prices at the grocery store, what's happening

00:25:49.680 at the gas pump, the pain, this is going to not even be secondary or tertiary.

00:25:53.020 It's not even going to be a thought when they show up.

00:25:55.740 And that's exactly what we're seeing tonight.

00:25:57.040 I think that the reality is we're not very good at articulating a vision.

00:26:01.320 There's a lot of conflict of vision going on right now in the Republican Party.

00:26:04.600 I agree that all that is true, but I think the impact of it is somewhat marginal.

00:26:09.500 I think for the most part, people vote against.

00:26:13.180 And there are a few moments in history where that isn't true.

00:26:17.260 But I would actually say that the ascension of Obama in 2008 was an aspirational...

00:26:22.040 Yeah, no one was voting against John McCain.

00:26:23.760 That was an aspirational moment.

00:26:25.040 That's in the primaries.

00:26:25.860 But for the most part, Americans vote against.

00:26:29.580 And this is why I think it was a huge mistake for Donald Trump to make himself central to

00:26:35.080 his own re-election efforts in 2008.

00:26:38.580 He, you know, by sort of constitutionally, he puts his name in big gold letters on the

00:26:43.640 side of things.

00:26:44.380 The 2008 election would have been a good time for him not to have put his name in big

00:26:48.440 gold letters on the side of things.

00:26:49.780 Because it should have been a referendum on what the Democrats had just did around COVID

00:26:54.060 around the country, what they had just did around BLM with the riots around the country.

00:26:58.680 President Trump, though, he couldn't let it not be about himself.

00:27:02.180 This election is not about Donald Trump.

00:27:04.720 It's not really about the Republicans at all.

00:27:06.500 It's about the very real consequences of Democratic policies on very real human beings for the last

00:27:12.140 24 and really, we have to say, 36 months.

00:27:14.740 Oh, I agree with that.

00:27:16.020 All I'm pointing out is that the people who are coming in are a new generation with actually 1.00

00:27:19.900 new vision.

00:27:20.660 And that's going to continue.

00:27:21.820 That's not going to stop.

00:27:23.000 I agree with that.

00:27:23.800 I mean, I agree that people are voting against the Democrats.

00:27:26.460 They would have to be.

00:27:27.040 I mentioned earlier those exit polls.

00:27:28.620 The shift in Florida 2020-2022 in Latino exit polls, that's a 20-point shift.

00:27:33.460 That is a full 20-point shift.

00:27:35.660 And if the black vote shifts to 20%, the Democrats, I don't know where the Democrats are.

00:27:39.880 Or 15%.

00:27:40.640 The other thing about the Hispanic vote, too, is that in the Hispanic community, if we

00:27:45.500 could even call it that, as we talked about, it's kind of a made-up label.

00:27:48.380 But they also have multi-generational households.

00:27:51.000 These are very family-oriented people.

00:27:53.100 And so when you have the Democrats making this explicit run against the family itself,

00:27:58.220 against the family unit, I mean, the Black Lives Matter for a while on their website had

00:28:01.680 the destruction of the, whatever the phrasing was.

00:28:04.460 The nuclear family.

00:28:05.140 Right.

00:28:05.360 They want to take down the nuclear family. 0.81

00:28:06.380 They're explicitly saying that, well, you're not going to appeal to Hispanics or any culture

00:28:11.600 that values the family still.

00:28:13.320 You're not going to appeal to them with a message like that.

00:28:15.160 Which, by the way, is a shout-out to Anna Paulina in Florida, a friend of ours.

00:28:18.480 She won, which is super exciting.

00:28:19.800 She worked really hard for years, lost in the past, and now she's won.

00:28:23.900 And just congrats to Anna Paulina. 0.98

00:28:25.280 She's a wonderful person.

00:28:26.260 Republicans picked up three seats in Florida so far.

00:28:28.300 That's amazing.

00:28:29.020 I want to get a little reaction from social media because, well, we make a lot of our living 0.96

00:28:33.320 on social media, and it's a very, very silly place.

00:28:36.140 And so we have Daily Wire's crack social media team monitoring the situation, and they're

00:28:41.660 going to come to us now and give us a little insight.

00:28:45.140 Hey, guys.

00:28:46.180 This is your social media team here.

00:28:47.720 I'm Gracie.

00:28:48.480 And I'm Regan.

00:28:49.120 And we have been monitoring Twitter literally since the sun came up.

00:28:53.220 The entire day.

00:28:54.360 It's been what was expected a dumpster fire.

00:28:58.320 Of course, as per usual.

00:28:59.560 It's almost like to the level of when Elon took over Twitter and the liberals were losing

00:29:04.680 it, saying, like, you know, what's happening to Twitter?

00:29:07.580 They keep freaking out.

00:29:08.460 And we expected that online, obviously, which is kind of why we're here, to kind of give

00:29:11.980 you guys a little bit of insight.

00:29:13.460 And we think it's kind of ironic that they're hating on democracy, right?

00:29:16.300 That's the biggest thing.

00:29:17.360 Well, actually, there's a threat to democracy.

00:29:20.080 So dramatic.

00:29:21.100 Yes.

00:29:21.500 So dramatic.

00:29:22.240 That is to be expected.

00:29:23.860 One of the things they said is this.

00:29:25.180 People of America, if there was ever a time to vote blue, now is it.

00:29:30.220 Dramatic.

00:29:30.960 Prove the polls wrong.

00:29:32.220 Yes.

00:29:32.640 Prove the media wrong.

00:29:33.840 Yeah.

00:29:34.360 Prove Putin wrong.

00:29:35.560 What's Putin?

00:29:36.160 I love how they call us the extremists, but the language that they use is, like, so extreme.

00:29:42.800 Yes.

00:29:43.000 It's wild.

00:29:43.660 And they just keep pulling things out of thin air.

00:29:45.620 Prove Elon Musk wrong.

00:29:47.380 Reject fascism.

00:29:48.940 Reject greed.

00:29:50.000 Extremism.

00:29:50.540 Extremism.

00:29:50.980 Yes.

00:29:51.340 To the degree.

00:29:52.140 And vote blue to save America.

00:29:53.820 So we just keep seeing that trend.

00:29:54.880 Like, vote blue to save America.

00:29:56.680 Vote blue to save democracy.

00:29:57.860 And it's kind of getting old, right?

00:29:59.400 It's kind of getting old.

00:30:00.240 And it's literally everyone.

00:30:01.860 But something I love about Twitter, there are some positives, some silver linings.

00:30:05.160 Of course.

00:30:05.440 Is that there have been some good tweets, some good memes that have come out of this.

00:30:09.080 People being funny, of course, as per usual.

00:30:11.440 And so one of the things that we like is to try to find some based takes, right?

00:30:15.000 Because a lot of times there's not a lot of logic that's happening on Twitter.

00:30:17.900 And so when we can find a little glimpse of logic, we love it, right?

00:30:21.100 Hopefully we'll see more of that coming up.

00:30:22.740 In theory.

00:30:23.320 So here's someone that this actually makes sense.

00:30:26.200 The same ones threatening you about the death of democracy are the same people who had no problem with the NSA mass surveillance.

00:30:33.520 Accurate.

00:30:34.420 Engaged in mass censorship.

00:30:36.880 Locked people down.

00:30:38.180 Seems extreme.

00:30:39.400 Yes.

00:30:39.760 Yes, exactly.

00:30:40.720 Fired people for not getting the vax.

00:30:42.820 And kept kids out of school for nearly two years.

00:30:45.320 Two years.

00:30:45.800 So this guy is spot on, right?

00:30:47.000 We're finally seeing a little bit of base takes.

00:30:49.200 But again, it's hard to find here on Twitter, as most of y'all know, watching this.

00:30:53.860 Also, we wanted to give a little bit of, you know, one other kind of leftist that I thought was funny.

00:30:59.200 All right.

00:30:59.540 Can I share him?

00:31:00.120 Okay.

00:31:00.560 He said, if election day, it's election day, y'all.

00:31:03.460 Who's ready to save democracy by voting blue down the ballot?

00:31:07.220 And what I think about funny is, with him, is his bio has, you know, the American flag, which I was kind of impressed.

00:31:12.960 Surprise.

00:31:13.460 Good start.

00:31:14.140 Good start.

00:31:14.640 But then, of course, it says, supports Ukraine.

00:31:16.580 Because all of these leftists seem to have the Ukrainian flag in their bio.

00:31:19.640 Kind of reminds me of Jen Rubin, who, her username for a while was, like, Jennifer Pro-Democracy Rubin or something. 0.98

00:31:26.420 Yes, exactly.

00:31:26.820 Exactly.

00:31:27.400 It's got to be in your bio.

00:31:28.620 And something that's also just interesting with woke entertainment, Rob Reiner said, don't let democracy die.

00:31:34.980 Vote blue.

00:31:35.700 Yes, exactly.

00:31:36.440 It's just, it's a lot of vote blue, vote blue.

00:31:38.200 It's everywhere.

00:31:38.640 The irony, though, is they keep talking about democracy.

00:31:41.340 But the weird thing is, they're all out voting.

00:31:43.980 So they are doing.

00:31:45.860 Participating.

00:31:46.340 Exactly.

00:31:46.820 Participating.

00:31:47.360 Safely, effectively.

00:31:48.640 So it's very ironic.

00:31:50.060 Again, that's the theme we keep seeing with what they're saying versus what's actually happening out there in the world right now.

00:31:54.200 Kind of reminds me of last week when all the leftists were absolutely freaking out about Twitter being, like, you know, the worst thing ever.

00:32:00.240 But they're complaining about free speech on Twitter.

00:32:03.820 Yes.

00:32:04.280 The irony is not lost in this.

00:32:05.740 I assume you guys as well.

00:32:07.280 Now, obviously, we wanted to share a few other ones that we just thought was funny.

00:32:10.040 Ben, of course, because Ben is obviously having the most based takes on Twitter.

00:32:14.440 Keep it up.

00:32:14.840 We're expecting a lot.

00:32:15.520 We keep reading your tweets.

00:32:16.420 And we will admit that this is a homer take.

00:32:18.240 Yes.

00:32:18.600 We're cheating a little bit.

00:32:19.540 But we just wanted to read Ben's.

00:32:20.380 He said, just remember, if you don't vote today, the clown from it will haunt your dreams.

00:32:24.840 So he's keeping the drama alive because if the left's going to be this dramatic, the right better pull out some drama as well.

00:32:29.860 Seriously.

00:32:30.680 Keep it up, Ben.

00:32:31.900 All right, guys.

00:32:32.520 Back to you.

00:32:33.600 I'll be completely honest and say if Ben had tweeted that exact same tweet last election, it would have gotten labeled with a warning.

00:32:40.380 I don't think I'm going to.

00:32:41.780 That's exactly right.

00:32:42.500 100%.

00:32:42.860 Yes.

00:32:43.340 You're right.

00:32:44.000 Sadly.

00:32:44.360 Couldn't agree more.

00:32:45.660 Thank you to Gracie and Reagan.

00:32:46.740 You guys keep us posted on what goes on throughout the rest of the night.

00:32:48.840 We'll be checking back in.

00:32:49.940 We're about to win a seat in Rhode Island.

00:32:51.540 Come on.

00:32:52.380 Rhode Island, which hasn't happened since I believe the earth began turning.

00:32:56.060 The Rhode Island second congressional district.

00:32:58.740 Alan Fung, who is a Republican mayor over there, is about to defeat, it looks like, an incoming state general treasurer, the Democrat nominee.

00:33:06.680 A Democrat retired in this seat.

00:33:08.100 A Republican is leading in that seat, which is not a sane result.

00:33:12.700 That is a crazy result.

00:33:14.520 Meanwhile, the New York Times is now tweeting out, I kid you not, five ways to soothe election stress.

00:33:19.300 What?

00:33:20.020 What?

00:33:20.360 Election deniers?

00:33:20.880 Oh, yeah.

00:33:21.440 There's so much election stress.

00:33:23.320 So here are the five ways they recommend to soothe election stress.

00:33:25.640 We should all try these.

00:33:26.740 Try five finger breathing.

00:33:28.720 Trace the outside of your hand with your pointer finger.

00:33:30.500 Wait, slow down.

00:33:31.020 When you trace up, breathe in.

00:33:33.520 When you trace down, breathe out, guys.

00:33:36.040 That feels great.

00:33:37.560 Keep going.

00:33:38.100 I feel so much better.

00:33:39.120 Cool down.

00:33:39.900 I don't think we can do this one.

00:33:41.240 Plunge your face into a bowl with ice water from 15 to 30 seconds.

00:33:44.100 Give me a minute.

00:33:46.420 Move.

00:33:47.280 Even a walk around the block can offer some relief for an uneasy mind.

00:33:50.880 This one.

00:33:52.100 Breathe like a baby.

00:33:53.780 I'm not kidding.

00:33:54.440 What?

00:33:54.600 That's what it says.

00:33:54.900 It says breathe like a baby.

00:33:56.220 Focus on expanding your belly as you breathe, which can send more oxygen to your brain. 1.00

00:33:59.980 I thought it was like, have a doctor swatch you on the ass. 1.00

00:34:04.420 How does whiskey not make the list? 0.99

00:34:06.260 This can't be recently published.

00:34:08.980 This is within the last hour and a half.

00:34:10.780 I can't believe that.

00:34:11.360 But you know what you're doing?

00:34:12.240 I just cannot believe that.

00:34:13.440 In the election, then the way to soothe yourself is to do a stogie breathing and plunge your

00:34:18.260 face into a glass of whiskey.

00:34:20.020 That works for me.

00:34:21.300 No matter what's out of there.

00:34:22.420 That is so, I don't know what to say about the state of journalism.

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00:34:36.480 Are you going to make a steak pun?

00:34:38.140 Wait.

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00:34:45.220 The stakes.

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00:36:26.440 So our friend Jordan Peterson only eats steak.

00:36:29.940 Yes.

00:36:30.360 So it's not a joke.

00:36:31.620 For breakfast, he will eat 30 ounces of ribeye.

00:36:34.960 Holy Moses.

00:36:35.840 If you go to Amarillo, Texas and eat the famous steak where they'll give it to you for free if you can finish, it's 72 ounces.

00:36:43.080 That's an average Tuesday.

00:36:44.800 That's just a Tuesday for Dr. Jordan Peterson.

00:36:47.200 He eats so much steak.

00:36:48.320 I'm going to get through the holidays before I try it, but I'm really tempted.

00:36:52.600 You know, once you get past all the delicious treats that come around Christmas.

00:36:56.560 And I think GoodRanchers needs to sponsor the Jeremy Goes on the Carnivore diet.

00:37:01.560 Oh, yeah.

00:37:01.860 They make great steaks.

00:37:03.940 I have, well, no online following, but I sit near people with a huge online following.

00:37:10.180 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:10.560 I feel like it should just be GoodRanchers nonstop.

00:37:12.880 They'll lose about a million dollars in meat, but we'll have a good time.

00:37:16.520 Exactly.

00:37:17.140 I just want to mention on that Rhode Island second congressional district, that district went by, for the Democrat, by 17 points last time.

00:37:22.740 No.

00:37:23.340 Wow.

00:37:23.680 You're looking like a 20% swing across the board here in some of these races.

00:37:26.700 Could be.

00:37:27.060 I mean, some of these races, and again, right now we're still waiting on returns at all, basically, from Pennsylvania.

00:37:33.460 They're counting the mail-in ballots.

00:37:34.500 The mail-in right now is showing Fetterman only trailing the performance of Josh Shapiro, who's widely expected to win that gubernatorial race, by about four points.

00:37:41.500 If that were to hold Fetterman, it would win the Senate fairly easily, or either that or Shapiro is not running that far ahead of Mastriano, right?

00:37:47.500 One of those two things has to be true, but there's wide gaps is what...

00:37:51.300 There's Shapiro's speech this week.

00:37:53.420 The whole left was praising it as like the second coming of Barack Obama.

00:37:57.520 I found the whole thing, other than something of the energy and something of the cadence.

00:38:00.940 Yeah, he had some energy.

00:38:02.040 He had some energy.

00:38:02.480 The substance of the speech was horrifying.

00:38:04.360 But I always felt Obama had no substance, too.

00:38:06.840 I mean, Obama, his whole, you know, there was not a red America, there was not a blue America.

00:38:11.500 I always thought it was so vapid.

00:38:13.220 Are you trying to get us kicked off?

00:38:14.780 Yeah, I know.

00:38:15.220 We're going to totally...

00:38:16.200 I just...

00:38:16.660 I always thought his rhetoric, though it sounded kind of pretty, I always thought that was totally empty.

00:38:20.780 And so, in that regard, maybe Josh Shapiro is the next guy.

00:38:23.440 You guys, he spoke full sentences.

00:38:24.200 That's a lot for the left right now.

00:38:25.640 Yeah, right.

00:38:25.840 Why don't you guys stop being so harsh?

00:38:27.160 We've got Joe Biden.

00:38:28.760 I'll be honest.

00:38:29.400 In my lifetime, it's a lot for any American president.

00:38:32.360 Speak a full sentence.

00:38:33.360 Yeah, speak a full sentence.

00:38:34.800 So, right now, let's give them that.

00:38:35.980 Kemp is up on Abrams by about five points.

00:38:37.860 He's up 52 to 47, as we suggested before.

00:38:40.920 If Walker is going to win or at least avoid losing tonight, you know, at least...

00:38:46.840 Could be a runoff. 0.99

00:38:47.400 Could be a runoff. 0.99

00:38:48.580 Kemp really needs to be up in the 54% range.

00:38:51.200 How many are...

00:38:51.780 How many...

00:38:52.280 What percent reporting?

00:38:53.060 That's 44% reporting.

00:38:54.720 Could theoretically happen, but that's like almost 2 million votes.

00:38:57.620 Has the early voting been counted?

00:38:59.640 I don't know how it works in Georgia.

00:39:01.400 Whether they pre-count the early vote, I'll check.

00:39:02.720 Why don't we go to our ElectionWire friends and see if they have any insight into what's

00:39:07.180 happening down in Georgia, what it's going to take to win there.

00:39:09.720 We've got Cabot Phillips and John Bickley over at ElectionWire.

00:39:13.240 Thank you, guys.

00:39:25.580 Hey.

00:39:26.700 Tell me to not have Tom Bickley over at ElectionWire.

00:39:29.700 I was enjoying that.

00:39:30.760 Yeah.

00:39:32.260 I'm on.

00:39:33.400 I'm joined by Robert Cahaley from Trafalgar Group.

00:39:35.880 That was fun, you know.

00:39:36.920 We partnered with Trafalgar Group for a bunch of exclusive polls.

00:39:42.200 They do a lot of, you know, digging in deep to these polls, talk to a lot of Americans.

00:39:47.860 Always have polls that are at least 1,000 voters.

00:39:51.640 What are we seeing so far?

00:39:53.180 Any insights from particularly Florida and Georgia?

00:39:56.100 Florida is very different than the rest of the country.

00:40:03.000 And then I've been categorizing Florida for the most of this entire campaign is not really

00:40:07.500 a swing state anymore.

00:40:09.180 So what we are seeing in Georgia is Walker is behind Kemp, but he isn't behind far enough

00:40:16.420 that if Kemp gets the numbers we're expecting, which is, you know, an eight to nine point victory,

00:40:21.780 and if Walker stays within five or six, then that's a victory of that runoff for Walker.

00:40:26.940 So if Walker can maintain that small distance behind Kemp, that's pretty good.

00:40:32.700 It puts him in a pretty good position to have a good night.

00:40:35.160 Yeah, some of the gaps we're looking at now are just about 2 percent maybe behind Kemp,

00:40:39.880 which is really good for Walker.

00:40:41.200 That's tremendous if he stays there.

00:40:42.420 If that can hold up, that'd be impressive.

00:40:44.700 And as Cabot noted, we've seen a lot of the pretty heavily blue counties coming in.

00:40:49.260 Another good sign for Republicans there. 0.79

00:40:51.820 And also a lot of early vote.

00:40:53.440 And the early vote this year in Georgia is not quite as lopsided as it has been in the past.

00:40:59.560 But, I mean, when you're half of the vote in and the Republicans aren't getting destroyed,

00:41:04.700 that is a very, that points to a very big night.

00:41:08.060 One more question.

00:41:08.720 You know, with the early vote, we can, the states look different in terms of how they're

00:41:12.620 going to count them.

00:41:13.680 Pennsylvania, we've been warned by all the Democrats, it's going to take a long time to count those.

00:41:17.880 It's different, though, obviously in Florida, where we have, what, 80 percent of the vote

00:41:22.640 in already.

00:41:23.940 What about Georgia?

00:41:25.320 Well, Georgia, the new election law is certainly making it easier with the way that they're

00:41:29.700 demanding a little more accountability.

00:41:31.800 And frankly, there's a lot of people watching now.

00:41:34.420 And the requirement for the signatures and the ID verification is going to mean a little

00:41:40.020 bit less of what was in the past.

00:41:41.980 But also because it's in-person early vote, it's much easier to count than the absentee

00:41:47.540 ballots.

00:41:48.220 Now, we have had, as usual, problems.

00:41:51.000 I think Cobb County had 1,100 absentee ballots that were mailed the day before the election.

00:41:55.700 Yeah.

00:41:55.920 And there's already a lawsuit on that.

00:41:57.680 Surprise, surprise, a lawsuit in Georgia.

00:41:59.340 Maybe people aren't happy with the way it might turn out.

00:42:01.660 So lawsuit in Georgia, two or so lawsuits in Arizona.

00:42:05.420 It's already getting, you know, controversial.

00:42:08.220 But thanks a lot.

00:42:09.080 We'll be back with Robert in the future.

00:42:10.860 Thank you guys very much.

00:42:13.940 It's too early to say if we have a red wave, but it's certainly a strong night for Republicans

00:42:18.560 right out of the gate.

00:42:19.600 Did you, I voted early too because I was going to be here and I had to vote in person.

00:42:24.100 I walked in, they checked my ID, they asked me my middle name, which isn't on my driver's

00:42:28.680 license, because they had it in their, and then they showed me on the computer.

00:42:32.620 They said, we are now saying that you have voted on the computer.

00:42:35.580 It was actually, I felt pretty secure.

00:42:37.600 I mean, it was well done.

00:42:38.780 Same in Tennessee.

00:42:39.400 See, I did not vote early because I'm an American, but I went to the local Presbyterian

00:42:44.100 church this morning and I walked in the, I, because I've been in California for over

00:42:49.020 20 years.

00:42:49.600 I walked up and said, you know, Jeremy Borey, I'm here to vote.

00:42:52.320 And she said, oh, sweetie, I just need your ID.

00:42:54.680 And I was a little taken aback for a moment.

00:42:56.720 I thought I was going to have to call the diversity police or something and shut this operation 1.00

00:43:00.500 down.

00:43:00.800 But no, it turns out it was incredibly simple.

00:43:03.000 And once I handed them my ID, they were very quickly able to identify who I am.

00:43:08.060 But if you voted at the, we'll explain it to you later.

00:43:12.540 As a black woman, I don't expect you to understand it. 0.98

00:43:14.540 You have to explain, talk slow. 0.89

00:43:16.320 Jeremy, if you voted in a Presbyterian church, did you even need to cast your vote or was it

00:43:20.500 all just sort of predestined to occur?

00:43:23.760 Good night, everybody.

00:43:25.860 Drive safely.

00:43:28.440 So we've talked a little bit about this tonight, but not since Candace was with us.

00:43:32.280 And I think it's incredibly important.

00:43:34.300 A lot of people that are watching right now, they're optimistic.

00:43:37.420 They're hopeful that we're going to win.

00:43:38.540 But they're wondering, what does it mean if we win?

00:43:41.360 Republicans, OK, we pick up seats in the House.

00:43:43.840 OK, we get a majority in the Senate.

00:43:45.900 What are the, in my actual life that I'm actually living, where gasoline is too expensive,

00:43:50.440 the dollar is not worth what it's supposed to be, food prices are going up, I don't want

00:43:54.200 to just eat Chef Boyardee, as Michael said, and as Democrat politicians have actually suggested.

00:43:59.700 What is the practical effect of a win tonight?

00:44:03.600 Well, you know, I don't think that we're going to see much change at the pump, but that's one

00:44:07.660 thing.

00:44:07.900 There's nothing that is going to move these guys off the dime of climate emergency.

00:44:11.580 It is, they are, they are all in on this idea, which even the New York Times, actually, if

00:44:16.900 you're reading the small print in the New York Times, even they are admitting that this

00:44:20.080 existential climate emergency doesn't exist.

00:44:22.540 It hasn't, it never has, and it's all an illusion.

00:44:26.140 So I don't think it's going to have the kinds of effects on the things that matter, the crime

00:44:31.480 wave.

00:44:31.720 The reason it's not is because ever since Obama, the Democrats have taken the position that

00:44:37.080 if the voters get it wrong, they are going to continue on their path.

00:44:40.660 It used to be, take Bill Clinton, we got, you know, shellacked, whatever the word he

00:44:44.520 used was, I think that was Obama's, but he got, you know, also shellacked, and he said,

00:44:49.060 we're going to change, and they moved to the center.

00:44:51.240 That no longer happens in the Democrat Party.

00:44:53.080 They are so dominated by their base.

00:44:54.820 So I don't think we're going to see the kind of change we want to see, but if the Democrats

00:44:59.620 continue doing what they're doing, we're going to see a lot of change come two years

00:45:03.100 from now.

00:45:03.340 You know, there is also a story that people are not talking about, but it was a news alert that

00:45:07.560 popped up today, which is that Ukraine President Vladimir Zelensky said he'd be willing to

00:45:12.400 negotiate a peace with Russia if certain criteria are met.

00:45:16.580 And the fact that this came on the American Election Day, I think, is no coincidence.

00:45:20.700 Everyone around the world watches the American polls because we are the global hegemon, we

00:45:24.620 are the empire, they are all vassal states in some way or other.

00:45:28.740 And that actually...

00:45:30.080 Slightly put in all sense.

00:45:30.940 Well, yes, you know what I mean, to be really subtle about it.

00:45:33.800 And it matters because the Republicans are coming in as much more skeptical of an open

00:45:39.420 check on Ukraine.

00:45:40.760 And so we'll see how the Republicans play it.

00:45:42.780 I don't think they're going to come out as anti-Ukraine, but I think you're going to

00:45:45.500 see a lot more scrutiny into how that money is being spent.

00:45:49.100 And so that could add a lot of pressure for a resolution in that war.

00:45:52.960 And that actually could affect energy prices, and it certainly would probably make...

00:45:56.520 And also, while Candace is here, I feel like I can count on you to be with me about impeaching

00:46:02.280 Biden immediately.

00:46:03.340 I am 100% on board to impeaching Biden immediately.

00:46:06.760 Candace already impeached him. 1.00

00:46:07.800 Hold on.

00:46:08.520 I just have one.

00:46:09.400 This...

00:46:10.460 I don't want to get too caught up on technicalities.

00:46:13.140 For what? 0.99

00:46:15.060 Don't be ridiculous. 1.00

00:46:16.340 It's a ridiculous question. 1.00

00:46:17.560 It doesn't matter. 0.99

00:46:18.180 Just impeach him.

00:46:19.000 Impeach him, and we'll figure it out afterwards.

00:46:21.280 You got to impeach him to find out what she impeach him. 0.97

00:46:24.220 That's exactly how it works.

00:46:25.840 Why do you guys want Kamala Harris so bad? 0.99

00:46:28.320 Honestly, I do.

00:46:29.640 I think I do. 1.00

00:46:30.500 Like I said before, I didn't realize how stupid she was. 1.00

00:46:33.480 Like, I honestly, I was so focused on, like, the Trump versus Biden thing... 1.00

00:46:36.340 You're allowed to say that.

00:46:37.020 ...that she flew under the radar for me. 1.00

00:46:39.060 And I am so impressed with her stupidity that I do want her to have a bigger platform. 1.00

00:46:43.140 I do. 1.00

00:46:43.520 Also, Kamala Harris has this thing about Venn diagrams. 0.96

00:46:46.940 I love nuclear football.

00:46:48.540 She loves Venn.

00:46:49.140 My favorite big president, you just get nuclear footballs, and I love footballs, and I love

00:46:53.300 nuclear footballs.

00:46:53.580 Who doesn't love footballs?

00:46:54.640 And also, what's so bizarre is...

00:46:55.980 Both the two circles and the three.

00:46:57.000 Yeah, it's not bizarre.

00:46:58.060 Yeah, and the middle circles...

00:46:58.320 What's fascinating is how much black America hates Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:47:01.360 Yeah. 0.66

00:47:01.460 It's incredible.

00:47:02.800 I mean, they just have to be going.

00:47:04.220 I would think anyone at any risk of being lumped in or labeled on the basis of a Kamala

00:47:09.780 Harris is going to hate her.

00:47:10.820 And so that's going to be all women. 0.99

00:47:12.680 That's going to be black America. 1.00

00:47:14.080 America, and if you guys have your way and win with impeaching Joe Biden, it will be

00:47:17.920 all Americans who are suddenly being lumped in together with this...

00:47:21.620 It's just so unlikable. 1.00

00:47:22.640 And every time she opens her mouth, I'm like, that was really dumb. 0.97

00:47:25.880 My favorite thing, I do love the My Favorite Things tour. 0.92

00:47:28.440 It's like Julie Andrews, My Favorite Things tour.

00:47:30.140 Mm-hmm.

00:47:30.680 Yep.

00:47:30.880 It's like, you know, dew drops and...

00:47:32.620 Raindrops on roses.

00:47:33.880 Right.

00:47:34.280 Venn diagrams.

00:47:35.180 Yeah.

00:47:35.380 School buses.

00:47:36.720 Electric school buses.

00:47:37.600 When the dog bites.

00:47:39.660 Outer space.

00:47:40.180 When Joe Biden sniffs.

00:47:42.740 Sorry, I had to.

00:47:43.740 Actually, that was relate.

00:47:45.080 When she was at the DNP talking to, like, some random officers about outer space, like,

00:47:52.280 looking at North Korea.

00:47:53.340 That was my favorite.

00:47:54.300 I found that very relatable, actually.

00:47:56.100 Like, this is my...

00:47:56.760 I do like her.

00:47:57.540 I don't know.

00:47:58.120 It's my consolation tonight on Pennsylvania, because if things don't go well for Dr.

00:48:03.220 Oz, if we have the majority in the Senate and Dr.

00:48:06.560 Oz loses and John Fetterman wins, I know Republicans are going to be pulling their hair out.

00:48:11.620 I do think it will be kind of funny.

00:48:14.260 I will get a kick out of it, because we'll get control of the Senate, and I'll get pretty

00:48:17.920 good content for, like, six years.

00:48:19.800 So I'm not terribly upset about...

00:48:21.500 Also, Dr. Oz is not a good candidate, but that's...

00:48:24.100 I know we have to be unified tonight.

00:48:25.420 Go out and vote for Dr. Oz, but he just is not a good candidate.

00:48:27.660 And so if we can keep control of the Senate and still get, you know, Kamala as president

00:48:33.920 and John Fetterman as senator, that's kind of hilarious.

00:48:35.620 And that's my pitch, because it's good for our shows to have content, and we need Kamala

00:48:39.540 Harris to...

00:48:39.760 If I were to Tiffany Cross, and we do have to fill, right?

00:48:42.000 I mean, without Tiffany Cross, that's, like, at least five to seven percent of my content

00:48:45.700 on a regular basis.

00:48:47.160 So just to supply demand, I hear you.

00:48:49.200 Rex Chapman has a very important response to what's happening tonight.

00:48:52.860 It involves some cursing.

00:48:55.920 Effing...

00:48:56.240 No bleeps.

00:48:56.760 Just do it.

00:48:57.820 Really?

00:48:58.520 No.

00:48:58.800 No.

00:48:59.000 Oh, wait.

00:49:00.300 I'll be there for a second.

00:49:01.620 This is your brand.

00:49:02.200 With the impulses.

00:49:02.960 This is, in fact, my brand.

00:49:04.160 You have a point.

00:49:05.040 The funny thing about bleeping my brand is, if my producers know, basically, at the studio,

00:49:09.520 it's been after dark pretty much all the time.

00:49:12.460 Everybody who knows me off the air knows that, like, yeah.

00:49:14.580 It can be very important.

00:49:15.060 Anyway, Rex Chapman.

00:49:16.420 Effing Rand Paul.

00:49:17.340 Effing Ron DeSantis.

00:49:18.360 Effing Marco Rubio.

00:49:19.260 Our democracy is absolutely positively effed.

00:49:22.460 That's Rex Chapman.

00:49:23.820 But he'll always have his bizarre love for Nancy Pelosi's big, big brain.

00:49:26.780 So, that's the important thing.

00:49:28.780 That is sexy.

00:49:29.780 Very intellectual.

00:49:30.980 So much...

00:49:31.460 What a sexy brain. 0.99

00:49:32.200 Well, as he points out, though, nothing says democracy is effed quite like the majority

00:49:37.680 of people making their opinion known at the polls and then getting what they want.

00:49:40.800 By voting.

00:49:41.900 Yeah.

00:49:42.800 Yeah, it's totally sold down.

00:49:44.160 One thing that I really do want to see, on a more serious note, though, and I know that

00:49:47.720 a lot of parents saw me on this, like, some accountability regarding COVID, some shrinking

00:49:51.180 of the bureaucrats.

00:49:52.240 Like, the idea that they just took two years of everybody's lives and tortured children,

00:49:55.740 and then I go back to Stacey Abrams, where, I mean, for me, etched into my mind is that

00:50:01.280 photo of her sitting in front of kindergartners.

00:50:03.680 She's the only one not wearing a mask.

00:50:04.820 I cannot wait to forgive them.

00:50:07.760 I cannot wait to forget.

00:50:09.220 I cannot wait to move forward in a country with amnesty for all COVID. 1.00

00:50:14.660 It's like, we all did stuff.

00:50:15.540 You can't hold people accountable for the things they do to others for their own benefit.

00:50:21.600 By the way, Jeremy...

00:50:22.460 You can see all these articles now?

00:50:23.200 It's not Christian. 1.00

00:50:23.800 We all did stuff.

00:50:24.760 Like, they tormented us, sure, but it's like, we were tormented.

00:50:28.180 It's like, we all did stuff, you know?

00:50:29.520 We got crazy and whatever. 0.98

00:50:31.020 We yelled at our grandmas and told them that they should all die alone, but let's just... 0.99

00:50:34.420 We just need a COVID amnesty. 0.93

00:50:34.820 We're always whining about, oh, you're letting my grandmother die alone.

00:50:37.740 I'm all whining, you know?

00:50:39.320 It's genuinely...

00:50:40.340 It is genuinely un-Christian to forgive and give this blanket amnesty for COVID policy, 0.90

00:50:48.140 because it was to say that we have some sort of moral obligation to treat people who have

00:50:55.640 power over us with the grace that Christ shows to those whom he has power over is a complete

00:51:01.920 inversion of Christian doctrine.

00:51:03.740 And also justice is a part of Christian thought also.

00:51:06.840 I mean, the forgiveness has to follow upon an apology and a recognition...

00:51:09.780 Repent.

00:51:10.120 Like repentance?

00:51:10.940 Yeah.

00:51:11.060 Like, you have to repent.

00:51:12.260 Repent your sin.

00:51:13.000 And then maybe, like, it is amazing to watch as all these people who wish to do the same

00:51:17.400 thing over again.

00:51:18.000 Of course they do.

00:51:18.760 Yeah, they do it tomorrow.

00:51:19.480 Like, in the same article where Emily Oster was saying, we should all have repentance and

00:51:23.980 all this, she was saying, well, maybe we should still vax the kids. 0.68

00:51:25.880 And it's like, what the...

00:51:26.680 I don't understand.

00:51:28.540 Maybe the newborn infants need a vax or two, but, you know, a little COVID vax.

00:51:31.960 It's totally safe and effective for now.

00:51:33.480 Totally safe and effective as long as...

00:51:35.960 And also the things they're claiming they did in that article, she also says that, well, you

00:51:40.440 know, in April of that year, I was hiking with masks on with my family in the woods and...

00:51:45.460 And we didn't know.

00:51:46.200 We didn't know.

00:51:46.640 It's like, no, well, I...

00:51:47.580 We all...

00:51:47.980 Everyone here knew.

00:51:49.020 So, like, why didn't you know?

00:51:50.900 We protected against bears.

00:51:52.600 That's why you put a face mask in the woods.

00:51:54.420 That's true.

00:51:54.760 Well, but only...

00:51:55.120 Only in 90.

00:51:57.020 Yeah.

00:51:57.880 The bear can't recognize you.

00:51:59.040 So, we have a guest who's ready to join us now.

00:52:02.480 I'm very excited, not only because she's a friend, but she's also an absolute champion.

00:52:07.900 And they're telling me in my ear, not quite yet.

00:52:09.300 So, this is just like...

00:52:10.640 What a teaser.

00:52:11.180 This is the night.

00:52:12.160 Wow.

00:52:12.620 Yeah.

00:52:13.020 This is absolutely the night in which all things that can go wrong will, and the person

00:52:18.440 who's humiliated will always be me.

00:52:20.500 No, it's fine.

00:52:21.340 You guys have big following.

00:52:22.440 No one will ever blame you.

00:52:23.460 Oh, Ben's so great.

00:52:25.200 Oh, we love Candace.

00:52:26.460 Oh, Matt's documentary this.

00:52:27.940 Oh, every time Jeremy talks, he says something's going to happen, and it doesn't.

00:52:32.100 I don't even know why they have him here.

00:52:33.920 What a bummer.

00:52:35.360 Just terrible.

00:52:36.380 Can you tell me who she is?

00:52:37.880 Yeah, I'm going to go ahead and talk about her for a minute.

00:52:39.720 Yeah, all right.

00:52:40.100 It's our friend Harmeet Dillon, who, in addition to being just a champion for justice, who helped

00:52:45.300 represent us at the Supreme Court, not at the Supreme Court, but in our battle in the

00:52:49.880 courts against Biden's unconstitutional vaccine mandates, which is something that we don't

00:52:54.340 brag on ourselves about often enough.

00:52:56.260 The first company in the nation to sue Joe Biden to stop the mandates.

00:52:59.920 I've seen Harmeet, in all of these situations, just be an absolute stone-cold killer.

00:53:09.600 She's 100% not ready to join us yet.

00:53:11.980 Yeah.

00:53:12.280 But I just wanted to say nice to meet you.

00:53:13.380 That's a great tease.

00:53:13.920 I do want to say that she was also in the BLM documentary that we did.

00:53:17.420 She is just an incredible human being.

00:53:19.340 I actually, I didn't know she was joining, and I'm very excited that she's joining.

00:53:22.120 Oh, she's not joining at this point.

00:53:25.760 The chances of that happening.

00:53:27.500 Let us down again.

00:53:28.460 Frickin' Maricopa County voting machines are more reliable.

00:53:30.900 I was going to say, she's on that right now, too.

00:53:33.500 She's tweeting about that, talking about filing early lawsuits.

00:53:35.660 I actually, can we cut to somebody who's not ready, though, yet?

00:53:38.160 Yeah.

00:53:38.680 I actually did say, though, I told our technical team here, I said, guys, do not get the Maricopa

00:53:44.400 County cameras and switchboard.

00:53:46.740 It's not going to turn out well.

00:53:47.860 That's always where you go wrong.

00:53:49.220 Right now, by the way, I'll just give you a quick Georgia update, since we're just sitting

00:53:51.940 here anyway.

00:53:52.660 I think 54% reporting.

00:53:54.320 Warnock is up 51-47 over Walker, so he's running a little bit stronger than I think people would

00:53:59.100 want him to.

00:53:59.760 I'd love to hear what Harmeet has to say about that.

00:54:01.740 We're not going to.

00:54:02.460 We never will.

00:54:03.560 Never will.

00:54:03.980 The other race that is surprisingly tight, hopefully it'll open up a little bit, is the North Carolina

00:54:08.980 center race.

00:54:09.620 Ted Budd right now is running very close to Sherry Beasley.

00:54:12.760 He was supposed to beat her in most of the polls by somewhere between four and six points.

00:54:16.080 Right now, he's only up by 0.3.

00:54:18.800 He's up by approximately 6,000 votes out of 2.6 million cast, something like that.

00:54:23.720 You would expect that the rural votes come in a little bit later, usually after the city

00:54:26.700 votes.

00:54:26.720 Yeah, what percentage is reporting?

00:54:27.260 So right now, that's only 58% reporting, so you'd expect that to widen a little bit,

00:54:30.640 but that's a closer race than I think people had sort of foreseen at this point.

00:54:34.600 It's kind of a mixed bag, right? 0.99

00:54:35.880 Like, the areas where Republicans have done, like, an amazing job, they're kicking ass. 0.87

00:54:39.920 And in places where they're kind of like, nobody knows, then they're kind of, meh. 0.97

00:54:45.060 Have you tried breathing like a baby?

00:54:47.020 I will.

00:54:47.760 I will.

00:54:48.300 It's also, I think, challenging because we have controlled media, essentially, in this

00:54:54.620 country.

00:54:54.940 The left absolutely dominates almost all of our major institutions.

00:54:58.180 And the reason that they were running so hard on the red wave story 14 days ago is

00:55:02.540 to create fear among Democrats and motivate them to go to the polls.

00:55:07.260 That's true.

00:55:07.520 If you were looking at a blue wave two weeks ago, they would have been downplaying it in

00:55:10.940 all the institutional press.

00:55:12.040 Right.

00:55:12.320 Because they wouldn't have wanted to create a fear response among conservatives.

00:55:16.080 And, you know, that's just, every election conservatives have to overcome the institutional

00:55:21.880 deficit.

00:55:22.980 And that institutional deficit, I think, has gotten worse and worse and worse over the

00:55:26.620 years.

00:55:27.400 And that may, one of the encouraging things is that conservatives tend to adapt quickly.

00:55:31.680 So the Democrats, you know, we were talking about this earlier, the Democrats will create

00:55:34.440 some new mechanism within two, four years when they, social media, conservatives dominated

00:55:40.960 social media in the early days, which is why they had to start actually shadow banning

00:55:44.460 and banning conservatives.

00:55:46.080 So I think that we do a good job of overcoming all those institutional hurdles.

00:55:50.180 But what do you think they cost us?

00:55:51.300 Five?

00:55:51.960 Is it five points?

00:55:52.820 Is it 10 points in every single election?

00:55:55.220 Well, I mean, just by banning the New York Post story, it cost Trump 12 points.

00:55:58.860 It cost the presidency.

00:55:59.580 Yeah, the presidency.

00:56:00.940 By a lot.

00:56:01.560 By a lot, actually, you know.

00:56:03.400 Yeah.

00:56:03.940 So that's obviously a huge problem.

00:56:06.520 It's interesting, though, you mentioned this mixed bag that we're getting.

00:56:09.320 It seems like a red wave.

00:56:10.480 It seems like a red tsunami.

00:56:11.760 But then, you know, ah, man, we should have had Georgia.

00:56:13.920 Ah, man, we should have, you know.

00:56:15.200 And I really, the only state that I'm really focused on right now, and I know that we don't

00:56:20.100 have numbers for it yet, is New York.

00:56:22.100 I know you're a second.

00:56:23.020 I can't, I'm all about New York.

00:56:24.840 I actually think Lee Zeldin could pull it out.

00:56:27.640 Now, as corrupt as New York is, I mean, there are, you know, we were joking, not really

00:56:31.740 joking, about Philadelphia is a corrupt city, and they mess with the votes, and that's

00:56:35.400 gone on for decades.

00:56:36.660 New York is actually not as bad.

00:56:38.840 As corrupt as New York is, usually you get the numbers in relatively, you know, quickly.

00:56:44.160 And so you could get, I think you could get a Lee Zeldin win.

00:56:47.540 I think you probably will get a win in New York 17.

00:56:50.520 There, but we don't have the numbers yet.

00:56:53.060 Like Harmeet.

00:56:53.740 Zeldin's strong run is going to help the down market candidates, but I cannot picture

00:56:59.420 him winning, actually winning, because just the numbers alone, you know, it used to be

00:57:03.580 that upstate New York was heavily Republican, but it's not anymore.

00:57:07.580 So if he wins even 30% in the city, he is going to have an uphill climb, making a majority.

00:57:14.500 Well, right now, coming to us from, no, coming to us from Arizona, at the Cary Lake campaign,

00:57:21.140 I can't believe it, we actually have Harmeet K.

00:57:23.260 Dillon here with us.

00:57:25.760 Oh, we're not.

00:57:27.160 Harmeet, we see you.

00:57:31.520 Lying again, Jeremy.

00:57:32.820 Yeah, Jeremy.

00:57:33.520 Listen, I don't know who you want to blame.

00:57:35.240 The signal is a little interrupted.

00:57:36.740 Hi, guys.

00:57:37.500 Not Jeremy.

00:57:38.000 Hey, Harmeet.

00:57:38.660 There you are.

00:57:39.340 How are you?

00:57:39.640 Hi, hi, I'm sorry.

00:57:44.060 I'm in a crowded conference room here, just at the end of a hearing, so there may be a

00:57:47.880 lot of other noise here.

00:57:50.200 Sorry about that.

00:57:51.700 Not at all.

00:57:52.300 Tell us what's happening there.

00:57:59.600 All right, we're going to try to get Harmeet back here in a little bit, but we're going

00:58:02.760 to move on right now, because we have a bad...

00:58:04.420 Harmeet is at a hearing in Iraq right now, so...

00:58:06.800 If you're going to captain this ship, man...

00:58:08.280 Listen, it is not Harmeet's fault.

00:58:10.920 She's in a third world country.

00:58:13.840 She's trying to... 0.87

00:58:14.840 Yeah, she's in Maricopa County here.

00:58:17.020 You can't expect anything to work there.

00:58:18.580 I want to go back to my happy place, Flora.

00:58:22.080 Brian DeSantis is currently up by 20 points.

00:58:26.620 This is now getting embarrassing.

00:58:28.480 He's up 59 to 40 over Charlie Crist.

00:58:31.520 4.3 million votes to 2.9 million votes.

00:58:34.120 He's up 1.4 million votes.

00:58:35.340 And at his victory party, people are chanting two more years, which is...

00:58:40.180 I mean, what is the argument?

00:58:44.560 It's actually hysterically funny.

00:58:45.660 That's really funny.

00:58:46.560 What is the argument against him in 2024?

00:58:49.320 I don't even...

00:58:50.160 I don't see it.

00:58:50.980 What's the argument against him?

00:58:51.480 It's not Donald Trump.

00:58:52.320 That's the argument against him.

00:58:52.900 And will Trump's voters follow him if he wins the primary?

00:58:58.520 And does Ron DeSantis play retail nationally?

00:59:02.320 I'm not saying he doesn't.

00:59:03.560 He's done an incredible job in Florida.

00:59:05.120 He's like the greatest governor of my lifetime.

00:59:06.860 But Donald Trump is a singular individual.

00:59:09.780 He is the biggest rock star in the last 40 years.

00:59:13.320 He's got a magnetic quality to him.

00:59:15.180 I know he's got lots of negatives that everyone hates.

00:59:17.720 But the guy is just a unique case.

00:59:20.420 But like all rock stars...

00:59:21.100 I'm not worried about DeSantis on the...

00:59:22.460 Right.

00:59:22.800 Yeah, right.

00:59:23.500 I will say that there's a thing that he's done over the past four days.

00:59:27.520 He's been attacking DeSantis.

00:59:29.000 Yeah.

00:59:29.340 And it's not playing.

00:59:30.220 Not effective.

00:59:30.660 It is not playing the way that his attacks played in 2016.

00:59:33.740 Maybe it's because it's early.

00:59:35.000 Maybe it's because we're in the middle of midterm.

00:59:36.460 The timing.

00:59:36.760 The timing is terrible.

00:59:38.100 Ron DeSantisimonious is a terrible nickname.

00:59:39.760 I'm just going to put it out there.

00:59:40.600 Trump is really good at branding.

00:59:42.020 And that's a bad...

00:59:43.020 That one is never going to see the light of day again.

00:59:44.540 He's never going back to Ron DeSantisimonious. 0.62

00:59:46.060 It stinks.

00:59:46.460 It's a terrible brand. 0.99

00:59:47.820 It doesn't even apply.

00:59:48.940 You don't think of Sanctimonious.

00:59:50.820 Right, exactly.

00:59:51.580 The thing you miss, though...

00:59:53.900 Many of Trump's nicknames don't work.

00:59:56.660 But what he's always had is the feedback loop of Twitter.

00:59:59.440 And so he rolls them out.

01:00:02.280 Well, he had one for Hillary, like... 0.70

01:00:04.140 No Stamina Hillary. 1.00

01:00:05.800 No Stamina Hillary. 1.00

01:00:06.480 That didn't go anywhere.

01:00:07.540 He throws them out, like improv, and he measures the reaction.

01:00:10.960 But they've cut him off from his feedback mechanism.

01:00:13.120 He still has the live audiences when he does his rallies, and that's important.

01:00:16.760 But his real feedback mechanism was Twitter.

01:00:19.100 I think that, you know, it's not for nothing that they banned him.

01:00:23.660 I also think one of the things that's been happening here, and he...

01:00:27.340 Like today, he attacked DeSantis by saying, if he runs in 2024, then, you know, I know

01:00:31.840 more about him than anybody except his wife, which is a real...

01:00:35.160 No, he said except perhaps his wife.

01:00:38.580 Which, like, weird if true.

01:00:40.580 Weird if true, that Donald Trump knows Ron DeSantis better than anyone except his wife.

01:00:44.320 Like a weird...

01:00:45.720 I wouldn't have predicted it.

01:00:47.040 I didn't have that on my bill.

01:00:48.420 I'm curious.

01:00:49.020 Yeah, I'm curious.

01:00:49.840 Strangely curious.

01:00:50.680 But the reason that that's not playing is because, again, Ron DeSantis, unlike everybody

01:00:57.240 else who ran against Trump in 2016, except for...

01:01:01.040 Was Perry running in 2016?

01:01:03.080 Was that 2012?

01:01:03.960 I think it was 2012.

01:01:04.460 Perry was 2012.

01:01:04.940 So everyone else who was running against Trump was a senator.

01:01:08.960 Yeah.

01:01:09.960 The fact is, Jeb had been a governor 1,000 years ago.

01:01:13.960 Right.

01:01:14.440 So what that means is that he wasn't running from anyone who had a national brand in terms

01:01:18.700 of being very, very good at governing things.

01:01:20.720 Yeah.

01:01:21.160 And DeSantis has a very good record of being able to govern.

01:01:24.620 And so it's going to be fascinating to see how it plays out.

01:01:25.860 There's another...

01:01:26.400 Trump is going to make the argument, I was a good president, I did good things as president.

01:01:29.300 And DeSantis is going to say, that's true.

01:01:30.500 All of that's true.

01:01:31.060 It's time for a new approach.

01:01:32.300 I know how to govern a state.

01:01:33.580 I know how to fire everybody who needs to be fired.

01:01:35.300 I know how to run these things the way they need to be run.

01:01:37.580 I took a state that, again, 30,000 vote advantage in the last election, 1.4 million vote

01:01:43.600 advantage in the next election.

01:01:44.340 They're trying to build this narrative about DeSantis, too.

01:01:46.400 The thing, after Trump launched his attack on DeSantis, there were some Trump supporters

01:01:50.620 on Twitter that were trying to build this narrative of the problem with DeSantis is the establishment.

01:01:54.520 The establishment is behind him.

01:01:55.640 They had all these unsourced, anonymous sources saying that Paul Ryan and Kevin, you know,

01:02:01.380 all these establishment guys are getting behind DeSantis.

01:02:06.620 But the problem with that is, first of all, it's unsourced, who cares?

01:02:09.240 Second, it's like the other problem you run into with Trump is that he's endorsed all

01:02:12.280 these guys.

01:02:12.720 And he also hired a lot of them when he was president.

01:02:14.880 But the more perceptive, I think, version of that attack is that, and it's a unique challenge

01:02:21.740 for Ron DeSantis right now.

01:02:23.200 DeSantis' big plus and his chief sales pitch is he's the bigger, better Trump.

01:02:29.140 He's Trump 2.0.

01:02:30.160 He's Trump with all the positives, none of the negatives, right?

01:02:32.440 Very competent, very bright.

01:02:33.980 Okay.

01:02:34.300 That's the pitch for him.

01:02:35.240 But his role in the race right now is for the anti-Trump vote.

01:02:39.640 So there are a lot of people who hated Trump, who have hated Trump for a long time, who

01:02:43.520 like DeSantis.

01:02:44.740 And that's not DeSantis' fault.

01:02:46.680 So it could be an advantage to him because he could unite the party in a unique way.

01:02:51.540 Or if Trump keeps going headlong against...

01:02:54.380 The people who are the most ardent for DeSantis are actually former Trumpers.

01:02:57.480 Yeah.

01:02:57.860 No.

01:02:58.340 I haven't really had the inside track on this story.

01:03:00.580 So I can drop a little gossip.

01:03:02.880 Yeah.

01:03:03.380 But so basically what's happened is that obviously DeSantis barely won his race for governor,

01:03:09.680 the gubernatorial race for his time.

01:03:10.800 It was because Trump flew down and he saved him and really dragged him over the finish

01:03:14.740 line, which is a fact.

01:03:16.380 And because Trump dragged him over the finish line, when Trump has been like obviously fighting

01:03:20.560 2020 election stuff, and DeSantis has kindly really asserted himself as a governor,

01:03:24.380 by the way, the real reason.

01:03:26.000 DeSantis, if you want to give me a thank you for taking down Andrew Gillum, I'm the one

01:03:28.440 that broke that story about him.

01:03:30.780 Anytime you want to call to DeSantis and say thank you, that's two things I've done for

01:03:33.340 him.

01:03:33.440 We've got to keep a little thing.

01:03:35.740 Ambassador to the Bahamas.

01:03:36.860 Yeah, right?

01:03:37.400 Exactly.

01:03:37.760 That's all I'm saying.

01:03:38.620 Ambassador to Guam.

01:03:41.220 Unless it tips into the sea.

01:03:44.220 But anyways, I'm kidding.

01:03:46.000 But so it's really interesting because he basically feels that because he got him over the finish

01:03:50.980 line that it would be the right thing for DeSantis to do.

01:03:54.380 Is to concede and allow him to run again in 2024.

01:03:56.520 Now we can talk politics, talk about what's proper.

01:03:58.520 We can talk about the royal family and what you should do and what you shouldn't do.

01:04:02.120 And Ron DeSantis has not come out and said, I'm not going to run because I appreciate

01:04:07.000 you and that I really kind of wouldn't be here without you.

01:04:09.780 And that in the background has really gotten Trump quite angry.

01:04:12.920 Now, what I also will say, here's what I'm an expert on also, is I think I do more

01:04:17.160 on the ground traveling than all of you guys in terms of speeches that I do every week,

01:04:20.220 everywhere.

01:04:21.020 It is changing.

01:04:22.280 Ben is correct.

01:04:23.440 Trump supporters are starting to lean into DeSantis.

01:04:26.100 Yep.

01:04:26.640 And they're starting to say, and these are, by the way, some of his biggest donors as

01:04:30.900 well behind closed doors who have said to me that, you know, they are, you know, what

01:04:35.500 do you think about DeSantis?

01:04:36.080 What do you think about DeSantis?

01:04:37.000 There's something that they like better about DeSantis because he's less reactive.

01:04:40.360 He sometimes lets certain things go.

01:04:42.840 And it seems like a better oiled machine that's happening down in Florida.

01:04:47.080 And I will say just my personal experience.

01:04:50.060 And I, I could, I don't think I could have been more of a vocal Trump supporter, but I

01:04:53.560 was deeply upset with him when we did that interview.

01:04:56.560 And I went down there, Mar-a-Lago, I could not have given him a more fair interview.

01:04:59.700 Obviously, everybody knows my stance on vaccines.

01:05:01.520 I couldn't be more vocal about the fact that I don't vax my children.

01:05:03.820 I don't vax myself.

01:05:05.000 And I asked him a question about vaccines and he was like, they're the best things.

01:05:08.140 They're so amazing.

01:05:08.700 And then his own base got upset with that.

01:05:11.700 His own base got upset with that.

01:05:13.160 He said it.

01:05:14.100 And then he was mad at me because his base got mad at what he said.

01:05:17.460 And I thought to myself, that's a bit arrogant.

01:05:19.200 Okay.

01:05:19.500 You got your, I literally gave you the nicest interview ever.

01:05:23.680 You're mad at how, what you said, because this is when he kind of wasn't understanding

01:05:27.160 that his base was not pro vaccine.

01:05:28.700 Like there was like this, this random period where he wasn't quite understanding that getting

01:05:32.540 on stage and saying, and there's go, we're going to give more vaccines.

01:05:35.160 And I'm the one, cause he was so proud that he rushed the vaccines, but there was a

01:05:38.280 disconnect between like, we're not happy about that.

01:05:40.920 We don't.

01:05:41.140 And, and then he sort of blamed it on me.

01:05:43.140 He got very upset with me for, I don't know what, like what not, like censoring what he

01:05:48.180 said on my show.

01:05:49.080 I just say that the, the, also the problem. 0.95

01:05:51.500 Arrogant.

01:05:52.280 Yeah. 0.74

01:05:52.440 The problem with this idea that, well, DeSantis can run in 2028 and Trump will be the guy

01:05:56.780 in 2024.

01:05:57.280 Well, the assumption is that a Republican will be able to win after another Trump term, which,

01:06:04.000 which is like, that's a pretty big assumption.

01:06:06.000 Or another Trump loss.

01:06:07.540 I mean, there are a few, so there are a few, we talked about on the upsides of DeSantis.

01:06:10.660 One of the downsides of Trump that nobody's mentioning, it doesn't have to, him as a

01:06:13.500 person at all.

01:06:14.560 He's only eligible for one more term and he's going to be 82 in 2020, 2028.

01:06:19.020 Okay.

01:06:19.380 Which means that he is very old.

01:06:21.400 And again, even if he ran and he won, you were foregoing the possibility of an eight year

01:06:25.400 span for a popular president.

01:06:27.440 Even if Trump were to be reelected in, in 2024, he's constitutionally barred from running

01:06:32.280 for, for a third term.

01:06:33.320 But the idea would be a 12 year Reagan Bush. 0.98

01:06:35.740 But he's a lame duck the second you. 0.96

01:06:37.860 Right. 0.99

01:06:38.560 That's correct.

01:06:39.360 And so he doesn't have the ability to actually.

01:06:40.900 I will remind you guys that DeSantis.

01:06:42.200 The real thing is in campaigning, no one has yet figured out how to defeat Trump's vicious,

01:06:47.900 his viciousness, his cruelty, his ability to brand people.

01:06:51.480 But he's good.

01:06:52.460 And DeSantis is not good on the campaign trail.

01:06:54.180 He's really good at it.

01:06:55.180 And, you know, and, and Biden only won because Trump kind of defeated himself, kind of positioned

01:06:59.560 himself wrongly and because of COVID.

01:07:01.380 And they changed all the rules.

01:07:02.540 Yeah.

01:07:02.940 And they changed all the rules.

01:07:03.720 And they suppressed the laptop store.

01:07:06.100 I'm not saying, I'm not saying DeSantis can't do it.

01:07:08.140 I'm just saying he's going to have to find a way.

01:07:09.840 I don't think there's a skeleton key to debating Trump because Trump debates kind of like a

01:07:13.200 seventh grader, right?

01:07:13.940 He kind of hits you with an insult.

01:07:15.480 Right.

01:07:15.600 And then there's no comeback.

01:07:16.820 But it's fine. 0.97

01:07:16.980 I mean, it's like, how do you, how do you respond to a guy saying that your wife's ugly? 0.95

01:07:20.100 Yeah. 0.77

01:07:20.260 What are you supposed to do with that?

01:07:21.140 A Rand Paul's face.

01:07:21.660 What do you do exactly?

01:07:22.920 Right.

01:07:23.100 And so, and so, but, but.

01:07:24.440 It really is genius. 0.96

01:07:25.200 You either punch him, in which case you lose. 0.94

01:07:27.580 You lose.

01:07:27.980 Or you don't punch him, in which case you lose, right?

01:07:30.180 He is an entertainer.

01:07:31.340 And that is part of it.

01:07:32.260 But I think, but here's the thing.

01:07:33.600 Him attacking, again, any of the other figures in 2016 who looked like Lilliputians next to 0.68

01:07:38.240 him because he was very famous and because, and mostly because the media had decided that

01:07:41.280 Trump was the enemy in 2016.

01:07:42.960 And so the base was like, well, if he's the enemy, then he's my man.

01:07:45.340 And right now the base perceives that the media hate DeSantis, if not as much as Trump, nearly.

01:07:50.500 I mean, they made DeSantis.

01:07:51.400 And Trump didn't have a record either.

01:07:52.820 I mean, what DeSantis can do in a primary is say, you handed the country over to Fauci.

01:07:59.320 Yes.

01:07:59.920 That's right.

01:08:00.540 And that's pretty much all he has to say.

01:08:03.460 And that's going to be.

01:08:03.760 President, you had a good three years.

01:08:05.480 Right.

01:08:05.700 Year four, you gave the country to Fauci.

01:08:07.820 Right.

01:08:08.180 By the way, a couple of disappointments tonight.

01:08:10.300 They're now calling the races.

01:08:12.160 I'd said VA7, VA10, RI2, right?

01:08:15.040 That's the Rhode Island seat.

01:08:16.060 That those look like they might swing Republican.

01:08:17.800 It looks like they're now calling all three of those for the Democrats.

01:08:20.840 So, you know, maybe.

01:08:22.380 So we should start thinking, is it red tsunami or red wave?

01:08:25.580 Maybe red wave to red tide, right?

01:08:26.800 We'll see how this all plays out.

01:08:27.880 Should I change my dress?

01:08:29.360 Yeah.

01:08:29.760 We're still going to take the house.

01:08:31.320 We took the house.

01:08:31.700 We took the house.

01:08:31.720 Or a fuchsia.

01:08:32.900 Yeah.

01:08:33.220 Okay.

01:08:33.780 Okay.

01:08:34.240 Just making sure.

01:08:34.880 There is also, you know, just one last point on the weirdness of the Trump-DeSantis thing.

01:08:39.620 It's the first time that I have noticed that Trump took the first shot at someone.

01:08:46.520 One of Trump's defining features is he doesn't strike first.

01:08:50.380 He gets even a minor insult and then just clobbers the person on the head.

01:08:54.680 But Rosie O'Donnell hit him first. 0.99

01:08:56.520 You know, Little Marco and, you know, Low Energy Jeb and all the rest hit him first,

01:09:01.760 and then he hits him back.

01:09:02.920 DeSantis has not hit Trump.

01:09:04.480 By the way, that is, I think, it feels like campaigning out of fear from Trump.

01:09:08.740 It is.

01:09:08.900 It does feel.

01:09:09.340 It does.

01:09:09.620 It feels like what he's trying to do.

01:09:11.120 Because if you think about it strategically, what you figure is it's still 2020.

01:09:14.760 Like, I may not be an expert on a lot of things, but I know what a calendar is.

01:09:17.340 And it's currently November of 2022, and the election is not until November of 2024.

01:09:21.640 No one announces the day after the midterm or the week after the midterm.

01:09:25.300 The only reason you're doing that is because you're trying to preemptively crowd out the 0.97

01:09:27.920 field.

01:09:28.220 It's like if you're playing poker and you're playing Texas Hold'em and somebody gives you your

01:09:32.800 pocket, and the first thing you do is you go all in, right?

01:09:35.360 The only reason you're doing that is because you're trying to buy everybody out of the pot,

01:09:37.900 right?

01:09:38.020 You're just trying to make sure that everybody dumps out because they don't want to take 0.87

01:09:40.260 the risk.

01:09:40.620 That's why he's doing that.

01:09:41.540 If he really felt like he was in solid position, what he would do is he'd wait for everybody

01:09:44.700 else to jump in, and then he'd just clean them.

01:09:46.320 And he'd just wait for six months, wait for other people to jump in, and then just move

01:09:49.120 them out.

01:09:49.320 All right.

01:09:49.500 So let's make it fun.

01:09:50.180 Election is today.

01:09:51.140 DeSantis and Trump are on the ballot.

01:09:53.180 Ben, you first.

01:09:54.260 You only know what you know about them right now.

01:09:56.860 Who would I vote for in the primary?

01:09:58.220 I'd vote for DeSantis in the primary.

01:10:02.800 I don't endorse in primaries. 1.00

01:10:06.060 Boy, are you a chicken shit. 1.00

01:10:08.280 I just won't throw Trump under the bus. 1.00

01:10:10.440 I just love the guy.

01:10:11.920 I know he did all these bad things, but he did so many good things.

01:10:15.280 He got us Roe v. Wade, and so I just think I can't throw the guy under the bus. 0.59

01:10:19.500 It's not under the bus.

01:10:20.260 I mean, DeSantis is the only guy.

01:10:21.240 I asked you what button you were putting.

01:10:24.020 I'll eat that delicious jelly bean.

01:10:25.560 You can't talk to the ballots.

01:10:28.460 You've got to actually just make a decision.

01:10:29.940 Trump or DeSantis.

01:10:30.560 No, I don't deal in hypotheticals, Gandish, other than every day.

01:10:34.580 Who do you think would be more effective in a general election?

01:10:37.180 Not who would you vote for?

01:10:38.000 I'm not convinced.

01:10:39.420 Trump in a general election.

01:10:40.740 That's what I was going to say.

01:10:41.340 You think Trump would be more effective in a general election?

01:10:43.120 He could be.

01:10:43.600 DeSantis is better in the actual office, I think.

01:10:45.960 And Trump, you're talking about campaigning and going out there.

01:10:49.300 Trump is going to be able to move people.

01:10:50.800 DeSantis, do not forget how bad he was next to Andrew Gillum.

01:10:53.500 Andrew Gillum was like selling salt to a slug.

01:10:55.560 I was like, man, I might vote for the Socialists.

01:10:57.500 I mean, DeSantis was uncomfortable.

01:10:58.920 He wasn't likable.

01:10:59.680 I've also seen him in private circles as governor.

01:11:02.220 And he just kind of comes across as like a frustrated and angry sometimes and doesn't

01:11:06.340 play well on stage.

01:11:07.720 But on the general election, you're not factoring in.

01:11:09.460 This is one of the reasons why I would go with DeSantis in the primary if this was the

01:11:13.140 option, is that if it's Trump, then like what Ben's been saying is that now the election

01:11:19.260 is about Trump rather than being about Biden.

01:11:22.220 And I want 2024 to be about Biden and his failures.

01:11:26.340 Trump gets in and it's about him.

01:11:27.360 But it probably won't be about Biden, period, because Biden probably won't run again.

01:11:30.820 No, but the question is, who's it going to be?

01:11:32.120 But it'll still be about Biden.

01:11:33.580 Do you know a single person in the United States who doesn't already have a set opinion

01:11:36.240 on Donald Trump?

01:11:37.040 No, of course not.

01:11:37.480 Who's the independent?

01:11:38.680 The independence does not exist with Donald Trump.

01:11:40.100 It just doesn't exist.

01:11:41.060 I mean, it's not even a voting possibility.

01:11:43.740 Every single person has their mind made up about Donald Trump.

01:11:45.580 But what about Biden?

01:11:46.900 Has Biden been so bad that now the people that really hated Trump are now missing him?

01:11:50.340 Because my sisters are now, you know, people that were over in Blue Land are suddenly like,

01:11:54.720 I do not care.

01:11:55.420 Give us Trump back.

01:11:56.080 I'm seeing the Post and like, I don't care.

01:11:57.360 I mean, that would be fascinating.

01:11:58.720 But the thing is, the push to get them over from Biden to DeSantis is less than the push

01:12:03.980 necessary to get them over from Biden to Trump.

01:12:05.280 Because there's a built-in sort of hatred of Trump.

01:12:07.300 Watch those gas prices.

01:12:08.480 I mean, I think either one of them would win, especially if they're running against Biden.

01:12:11.940 But I like DeSantis' chances a little bit more.

01:12:13.960 I think that the chances right now of Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton being president are

01:12:20.500 almost equal.

01:12:21.960 Like, Donald Trump lost the election to Joe Biden.

01:12:28.000 We can talk about why.

01:12:29.180 We can talk about the vote, the rigging of the election.

01:12:31.500 We can talk about the suppression of the Hunter's laptop story.

01:12:34.400 But there are the very peculiar circumstances around COVID, obviously.

01:12:38.480 But it did happen.

01:12:40.100 There was an election. 0.99

01:12:41.040 Donald Trump was the loser of the election.

01:12:42.580 And to say, well, we want that rematch, I think is bad. 0.92

01:12:49.540 To say that, I think the Democrats will say, well, let's rematch with Hillary. 1.00

01:12:54.600 I would love that.

01:12:55.680 And she has an actual chance of being elected president because those 100,000 people up in 0.80

01:13:01.180 the Rust Belt who didn't vote last time because they thought that she was going to win, that's 0.98

01:13:04.760 not going to happen now.

01:13:05.680 Trump is the most polarizing political figure in my lifetime in public life.

01:13:10.300 That is not to say that he can't win.

01:13:11.520 He won in 2016.

01:13:13.960 He can win.

01:13:15.440 But he can also lose.

01:13:17.280 We know that he can lose an election.

01:13:19.040 We know that he can lose an election against Joe Biden.

01:13:21.440 I think that Donald Trump should be disqualified from being the Republican nominee because of

01:13:26.180 the way that he deliberately caused the Republican Party to lose the runoffs in Georgia.

01:13:32.600 He campaigned at the end.

01:13:33.820 He can't pay for them at the end.

01:13:34.760 He spent a month saying, do not vote.

01:13:36.880 I'm just going to keep throwing.

01:13:37.480 Do not vote.

01:13:39.000 The idea that you were to send someone to be the head of your party who cost you, not

01:13:44.480 cost you because of incompetence, cost you by deliberately telling people not to vote

01:13:48.220 for the Republicans in the Senate is unconscionable to me.

01:13:50.660 But he is not disqualified.

01:13:52.360 Yeah.

01:13:52.440 So, I think he should be disqualified.

01:13:55.660 He's not disqualified.

01:13:56.800 So, when people say, you would vote for Donald Trump?

01:13:59.000 Yes.

01:14:00.060 Ron or DeSantis?

01:14:02.060 In the primary, I would support DeSantis because DeSantis did not deliberately give away the

01:14:06.680 state of Georgia.

01:14:07.440 But if Donald Trump is the nominee, will I vote for him to be president?

01:14:11.280 Yes, I can both believe that Donald Trump should be disqualified and also acknowledge the reality

01:14:16.260 that he is not disqualified.

01:14:18.200 And because he's not disqualified, he may ascend again to be the nominee.

01:14:21.120 And if he's the nominee running against these Democrats, it's not going to be very hard

01:14:25.340 to go into the booth and pull the lever for him.

01:14:26.680 I disagree that he's more likely to win the general.

01:14:28.500 First of all, the idea of him running against Biden is almost unimaginable.

01:14:32.280 The guy can barely talk anymore.

01:14:34.480 He can't.

01:14:35.160 Biden's not going to run again.

01:14:36.280 Biden's not going to run again.

01:14:37.300 So, we don't know who he's going to be running against, which, of course, makes all the difference.

01:14:40.100 But I think DeSantis is much more likely to win the general.

01:14:42.980 He's somebody that you can recognize as a politician.

01:14:45.900 Being a politician is a profession.

01:14:47.900 It is something that people who do it do it better than other people who are not professional.

01:14:51.500 He's very good at it and very effective.

01:14:53.080 And I think Trump, you know, he won the first time by a sliver by creating a, you know, a collection

01:15:00.620 of states that people didn't see coming and Hillary very much didn't see coming.

01:15:05.980 He hasn't been, he wasn't able to repeat it in 2020.

01:15:08.580 And I don't think he'll be able to.

01:15:09.880 But the argument, like, yes, I'm not disagreeing.

01:15:12.720 I know it sounds like I'm sort of down on DeSantis here.

01:15:15.700 I'm not.

01:15:16.160 The guy is just a star and he's doing a great job.

01:15:19.180 But so much of DeSantis comes out of Trump, not just the election victory, some of the

01:15:24.420 mannerisms.

01:15:25.040 Oh, I agree.

01:15:25.440 And some of the vision.

01:15:26.240 And so when people say, well, DeSantis is just a sort of new and improved version, sure,

01:15:31.780 that might be the case in a normal year.

01:15:33.480 But in a normal year, you don't have a one-term president who's running again.

01:15:36.580 And so there is this question of, one, he's way up in the polls for now, though that obviously

01:15:42.140 could change.

01:15:42.760 And I am somewhat persuaded by our friend Alan Estrin's argument that this is the Trump

01:15:50.320 show, that we were all, we all turned on the rally last night because there was a rumor

01:15:56.560 that he might announce that it doesn't matter if you wanted him to announce last night, if

01:16:01.440 you didn't want him to announce last night, it's, I think Alan's exact words in a text

01:16:06.300 thread with Michael and I were something along the lines of, it doesn't matter, you need

01:16:10.900 to pee, but the commercial break is almost over, and the master storyteller is almost

01:16:15.060 back on the screen, and you will not get up out of your chair.

01:16:17.900 It is Trump.

01:16:19.280 So here's the thing.

01:16:19.920 I don't think-

01:16:20.240 It's Trump's world.

01:16:20.740 I don't know that DeSantis can defeat Trump.

01:16:22.640 I think exhaustion can defeat Trump.

01:16:24.420 Meaning I think that there are a lot of Republicans, I think a lot of the support that you're talking

01:16:27.300 about, people moving from Trump to DeSantis, not because they're looking at DeSantis and

01:16:30.040 they're like, this guy's the greatest politician in the history of humanity, he is really good

01:16:33.260 at what he does, but you're right, as a retail politician, he's not unbelievable at retail

01:16:36.860 politics by any stretch of the imagination.

01:16:38.620 I think there's a certain level of exhaustion that has set in with people, and you see it

01:16:42.380 in the reaction to the way that he has gone after DeSantis, which is like, God, just, can

01:16:46.460 you, like, some discipline, like, just a little bit, can you, like, at some point, can you

01:16:49.880 just stop, just stop, just stop what you're doing.

01:16:51.680 Please put the party first in an election that you're not even in.

01:16:54.980 Right, exactly.

01:16:55.580 Sometimes I wonder who is advising him, you know, because I do think that he would have definitely

01:16:59.380 benefited from a period of silence after everything, and then I started seeing traces, because

01:17:03.280 I was, when, you know, when I sat down with him and I was trying to get something out

01:17:06.100 of him, of like, what is your vision, like, COVID's happened, he was just so obsessed with

01:17:11.520 the election in the same way that Hillary was obsessed with the election, and I thought,

01:17:14.780 okay, I understand this happened, I'm on your side, I'm furious about the election, we're

01:17:18.460 all furious about the election, but people's children are being masked in schools, and I now

01:17:22.140 need you to be here in this year.

01:17:24.480 That's the thing, right, that's the big one.

01:17:25.800 And I didn't know what his vision was for the future, I knew what his vision was for

01:17:30.080 in 2020, and why he's angry about 2020, and he's going to have to be able to pivot and

01:17:34.860 maneuver that, and this comes from someone who, I mean, I could not have been a bigger

01:17:38.300 Trump fan.

01:17:39.180 Of course, yeah.

01:17:39.600 I still love Trump, I think he's amazing, I agree with you that he's electric, DeSantis

01:17:43.520 is just not going to be able to create that electricity against him.

01:17:45.260 Virtually no one, virtually no one can come back from losing a general election in this

01:17:50.480 country.

01:17:50.900 It does psychic damage to you.

01:17:52.420 It is different than losing in a primary, right?

01:17:55.580 When you are in the actual show, and you lose, you become Man, Pig, Bear, or whatever.

01:18:01.540 I mean, Mitt Romney is half of the man that he was before 2012.

01:18:06.180 It's Hillary.

01:18:06.960 But Grover, Killary.

01:18:08.260 There's something else that happened.

01:18:09.120 It's crazy, she still talks about it.

01:18:10.480 The appeal of Trump in 2016 was, he's taking the bullet so that you don't have to, right?

01:18:16.040 They loved him until five seconds ago, and now he's running, and they hate his guts.

01:18:18.700 And the reason they hate his guts is not really because they hate his guts, it's because they

01:18:20.900 hate you. 0.92

01:18:21.600 They despise you, and he's standing out front, and he's taking the arrow for you.

01:18:24.960 And in his presidency, that was the impression that you got.

01:18:27.400 It's like, they keep aiming at you, but they keep hitting him.

01:18:29.640 He's taking the bullet for you.

01:18:30.640 And then after 2020, and his obsession with the election, it became, now I need all of you

01:18:35.040 guys to take the bullet for me.

01:18:35.960 You guys, I want you to talk nonstop, not about Joe Biden, not about inflation, not about

01:18:39.320 Afghanistan, not about transing the kids.

01:18:40.820 I want you to talk about the election.

01:18:42.240 Like, he's calling up Blake Masters in the middle of an election cycle, and being like,

01:18:45.480 but Blake, you're not doing enough to talk about the election of 2020.

01:18:48.520 It's like, well, but that's not Blake Masters' job right now.

01:18:51.300 His job is to win a Senate seat, and it's your job to help him win the Senate.

01:18:53.820 That is a really great insight, Ben, that he was taking the bullet for us, and then he

01:18:58.760 asked us to take the bullet for him.

01:18:59.800 But we're being joined right now by Rich Barrett, the People's Pundit.

01:19:03.960 But we're really glad to have him here, and he's tracking some of these elections down

01:19:08.480 at the precinct level in a way that we haven't been tonight, and I think people are probably

01:19:12.340 very interested.

01:19:13.720 Rich, thanks for joining us.

01:19:15.480 Yeah, thanks for having me.

01:19:16.340 It's good to be here.

01:19:17.860 Tell us what's happening on the ground.

01:19:20.640 You know, it's a little bit odd, actually.

01:19:22.960 You know, it's not exactly what you'd expect looking at some of the national exit polls, but

01:19:27.960 you know, they shift and they change over time.

01:19:29.920 It does look like to me that Republicans are underperforming expectations in some of the

01:19:34.920 Sun Belt areas while doing fantastically well in areas that people thought probably were

01:19:40.600 a little out of reach, in some areas in Virginia, some areas in the Northeast.

01:19:45.740 So it is still early, and we'll see how it shakes out.

01:19:48.440 But I'd be really surprised if Republicans underperformed in Georgia or North Carolina and overperformed

01:19:55.020 in Nevada.

01:19:55.600 So as a pollster, that's a state that terrifies me.

01:19:59.940 It's the one and only state where polls typically overstate Republican support.

01:20:05.500 And we, you know, we may have understated it, but we'll just have to see.

01:20:09.840 Votes count more than polls.

01:20:13.420 What races are you watching right now that you think are going to be the indicators for

01:20:17.020 the evening?

01:20:18.660 Right now, I'm looking at, as far as the Senate, I'm looking at North Carolina and Georgia.

01:20:23.000 I mean, of course, Pennsylvania as well, and I will be looking at Arizona and Nevada when

01:20:28.080 we get there.

01:20:28.840 But I'll tell you, in Georgia, Walker is running further behind Kemp than polls expected.

01:20:35.500 And it's really, much of it is coming from the Atlanta metro area and in the counties outside

01:20:39.700 of Savannah.

01:20:40.800 So if that doesn't pick up, which it could, you know, there could be, it's going to tighten,

01:20:46.660 but there could be a little bit of a surprise there.

01:20:48.260 And then in North Carolina, Ted Budd has a lead, but going into this election, it did

01:20:53.120 look like, and I pulled it myself a month and a half ago, it did look like Ted Budd had

01:20:56.860 a pretty strong advantage.

01:20:58.360 There are a lot of blue votes left out there.

01:21:00.320 Budd is leading.

01:21:01.240 He's got a couple of 10, you know, 32,000, it looks like right now.

01:21:07.060 You know, and that's when you're a Republican in a midterm election in a state like North Carolina,

01:21:12.160 you want to have a widened out, at least at this point.

01:21:14.900 And in areas like Wake County, it doesn't look like, and that's in North Carolina.

01:21:19.780 You have to get in the thirties in Wake County.

01:21:21.820 When that election day vote comes in, it will, it will, you know, bring him up.

01:21:26.700 But, you know, it's just a little bit funny to me to see, you know, tighter than expected

01:21:30.960 in North Carolina, but Republicans looking like they're going to take at least two out

01:21:34.940 of three of the races that we were looking at in Virginia, which is two, seven, and 10.

01:21:40.080 And Hong Kao was giving it one heck of a run, but Wexton has pulled ahead and there's a blue

01:21:46.240 vote out that remains.

01:21:48.100 It's, it's not over, but you know, the trajectory has changed.

01:21:51.960 Rich, thank you.

01:21:52.720 We're going to be checking back in with you a little bit later in the evening.

01:21:55.200 Appreciate your insights.

01:21:57.140 And thanks for having me.

01:21:57.920 All the best.

01:21:58.840 Thank you.

01:21:59.680 And it's been a little bit since we showed off.

01:22:01.620 So, and mostly because I think some of us could probably use a bathroom break.

01:22:04.880 I want to introduce the world to a little bit more great content that you can expect

01:22:09.080 from the Daily Wire Plus.

01:22:12.200 Why in the world did I start working with the Daily Wire?

01:22:15.840 I joined forces with a platform that affords me the opportunity to say whatever I want and

01:22:21.220 to put out whatever content I wish to make with no caveats, stipulations, permissions, or

01:22:27.500 finger wagging.

01:22:28.680 We could not be more pumped up and ecstatic about having Jordan Peterson at Daily Wire Plus.

01:22:34.880 Working with them has allowed me to embark on a series of documentaries and specials.

01:22:39.820 This conservative media company is allowing all of my ideas to flourish or wither on the vine

01:22:46.500 in accordance with their merit.

01:22:50.240 Marriage is one of those all-in games.

01:22:54.320 One of the unacceptable ideas with gender fluidity is that identity is subjectively defined

01:22:59.520 because that's preposterous.

01:23:01.460 I thought of the Museum of the Bible as kind of a backwards fundamentalist enterprise

01:23:06.400 and that turned out to be unbelievably wrong.

01:23:10.160 You have to say to yourself, I will do good nonetheless.

01:23:16.560 Join the real counterculture.

01:23:18.400 To be bound together in marriage is a very difficult thing.

01:23:30.080 There are many forces that will pull you apart.

01:23:33.740 I'm going to tell you the truth.

01:23:37.220 It can be completely anarchic.

01:23:39.080 Neither of you ever know what the hell is going on.

01:23:41.300 And so now you're bored by your partner.

01:23:42.840 That's you.

01:23:44.400 That's you.

01:23:45.300 You've got to put some effort into it.

01:23:47.040 This isn't nothing.

01:23:48.380 When you fall in love with someone, you see that infinite wellspring of mystery.

01:23:52.680 It's granted to you as a gift.

01:23:54.380 You'll find that that one person you're with is way more interesting than any plethora of

01:23:59.380 short-term shallow relationships that you could possibly imagine.

01:24:02.680 How can we set this up that's better than either of us initially envisioned?

01:24:10.540 I was a therapist for a long time and I talked to a lot of people about their marriages.

01:24:14.740 I've been married 33 years as of two days ago and it's gone pretty damn well.

01:24:18.900 As a married couple, you're going to face together everything that life can throw at you.

01:24:25.360 You're hard pressed to find anything better in life.

01:24:32.680 Coming out of our Backstage Live this June when we first announced that Dr. Peterson was

01:24:44.500 going to be joining Daily Wire Plus, one of the big questions that everyone had is how

01:24:48.780 much content will there be?

01:24:50.420 And it's taken us a minute to create this really premium.

01:24:53.380 I mean, if you think back to when the company first started, you weren't there.

01:24:56.440 Back in the pool house, right?

01:24:58.700 Sherman Oaks, we basically shot everything either in front of black curtains or on a

01:25:03.900 green screen.

01:25:05.760 Now we have Dr. Jordan Peterson doing content all over the world.

01:25:08.500 You look at the production value of this special on marriage.

01:25:12.020 I think it's an incredibly special piece of content.

01:25:15.180 By the end of this year, we will have created more premium Daily Wire Plus original content

01:25:21.940 that you can't find anywhere else with Dr. Peterson than we actually have with all of our

01:25:26.320 talent combined in the history of the company.

01:25:28.380 It's been a monumental effort over these last several months to create this amazing new

01:25:34.180 catalog of content.

01:25:35.480 And if you'll remember the best conversation we had at Backstage Live, and I think the best

01:25:38.440 conversation we've ever had as a company was on this very topic of marriage.

01:25:42.220 I think it's something that's so incredibly important to our audience.

01:25:45.660 And on nights like tonight where we spend a lot of our time, obviously, and appropriately

01:25:49.940 on politics, I think it's just important not to lose sight of the fact that the work

01:25:54.340 that we're doing at Daily Wire Plus is not all political.

01:25:58.360 You know, politics is an important function of a citizen in a democracy.

01:26:03.000 It's an important thing that we do to try to safeguard our culture.

01:26:07.360 But culture is not politics.

01:26:09.640 Culture is not defined by politics.

01:26:11.700 If anything, politics is defined by culture.

01:26:13.960 Some of our fans were talking this afternoon about, you know, the rise of ideas like transgenderism,

01:26:20.260 the rise of ideas like gay marriage, and they were saying, you know, we're destroying our

01:26:26.060 culture with these things.

01:26:27.920 And I don't actually think that that's the accurate point of view.

01:26:31.220 I think we are destroying our culture.

01:26:33.880 And these things are growing in some ways out of that destruction the way that algae

01:26:38.520 grows on a dirty aquarium.

01:26:40.140 The algae doesn't make the aquarium dirty.

01:26:42.160 The algae is a reaction to how dirty the aquarium is.

01:26:44.960 You know, there have been, for example, people with gender dysphoria engaging in cross-dressing

01:26:51.340 or trying to, what's the term they used to use, pass?

01:26:57.040 Yeah, yeah.

01:26:57.560 Trying to pass.

01:26:58.520 To pass as women. 1.00

01:26:59.020 Yeah.

01:26:59.600 For hundreds of years.

01:27:01.300 I mean, that's always forever.

01:27:02.520 Forever.

01:27:04.040 We, as a culture, we generally were very tolerant of it.

01:27:07.020 We generally didn't take...

01:27:08.600 It was against the law in a lot of places, including San Francisco.

01:27:11.720 It was against the law, but it was one of those things that, for the most part, people

01:27:14.200 ignored.

01:27:15.100 And if anything, people had pity for.

01:27:16.960 They sort of understood that there are going to be certain people who are broken.

01:27:20.300 In a fallen world, there are going to be a certain number of broken people, and a healthy

01:27:24.400 society should be able to absorb those broken people for the most part. 0.87

01:27:28.240 What we're seeing now is all of those things that a healthy society can absorb cannot be absorbed

01:27:35.040 by an unhealthy society.

01:27:36.660 And those things start to grow sort of on the carcass of what your culture used to be.

01:27:40.560 You don't fix your culture through politics, and you don't fix your culture even through

01:27:45.180 fighting the symptoms within the culture.

01:27:47.120 You have to fight your culture... 1.00

01:27:48.580 You have to save your culture at the level of culture.

01:27:51.740 That's right.

01:27:53.120 I think that's...

01:27:53.560 Changing the law, though, is not a terrible thing, too.

01:27:55.020 I mean, the law is also a teacher, you know?

01:27:56.820 So I agree with you.

01:27:57.500 Of course, you know, there are these cultural things that bubble up, and that affects our

01:28:01.140 law.

01:28:01.800 But the law also affects the way that people behave, and it creates different...

01:28:05.420 You know, we always talk about government incentives.

01:28:07.540 Well, people react to incentives.

01:28:09.140 And so, obviously, that's true.

01:28:10.760 But if the government comes in and says, you know, parents, you need to trans your kids, 0.94

01:28:14.460 or else we're going to take them away from you, that is going to create more transgender 1.00

01:28:17.960 people.

01:28:18.260 For sure.

01:28:18.560 But I don't think it's an accurate look at what's happened here.

01:28:20.980 What's fundamentally happened isn't that the government said, trans your kids, or we're

01:28:24.280 going to take them away.

01:28:25.460 What happened is trans started to explode in the culture. 0.94

01:28:29.040 And then the government races, in particular leftists in the government's race, to catch up

01:28:33.760 and try to sort of codify and encourage them.

01:28:36.300 I don't think that that's quite right either, though.

01:28:38.220 I think the thing is, when you talk about the law this way, you have to remember, you're

01:28:42.480 talking about a free country.

01:28:43.900 If the law becomes oppressive, then the law is not doing its job in a free country.

01:28:47.980 We want to remain free.

01:28:49.020 The first thing we want to do...

01:28:50.160 Am I talking about a free country?

01:28:51.280 Well, the first thing we want is to remain a free country.

01:28:54.780 So you do have to change cultural matters by cultural means in order to remain free.

01:28:59.900 You cannot say to people, suddenly, you know, we're going to take your children away if

01:29:04.560 you don't trans them, which is what the woman... 1.00

01:29:06.480 But when I raise the point of laws against transvestitism, we had laws against that forever. 0.94

01:29:11.380 I mean, in San Francisco and in lots of places.

01:29:13.640 But Jeremy's point is right.

01:29:14.580 We didn't really enforce a lot of these things, and they just gave the government a power that

01:29:19.140 it shouldn't have...

01:29:19.560 J. Edgar Hoover was a cross-dresser, just pointing that out. 0.86

01:29:21.860 That's right.

01:29:22.380 Might be relevant.

01:29:23.160 The government should not have the power to choose, oh, I'm not going to go after this

01:29:27.960 person, J. Edgar Hoover, who's cross-dressing, but I am going to go after you because I don't 1.00

01:29:31.380 like you.

01:29:31.740 They should not have that power.

01:29:32.560 Arbitrary expressions of the government.

01:29:34.720 Yes.

01:29:34.780 And the thing is...

01:29:35.740 But the big thing is, the big thing is, you can't have tolerance without a norm.

01:29:39.780 If you do not have...

01:29:40.760 You can't tolerate people if you're not...

01:29:42.820 You haven't got a solid norm from which you are saying, yes, you're not part of the norm,

01:29:47.540 but we tolerate.

01:29:48.400 I think politicians...

01:29:49.300 And that's the Nietzschean argument that the left has been making, that there should be

01:29:52.780 no norm.

01:29:53.440 Yeah.

01:29:53.540 And I think politics is more dynamic than, I think, either of the views that have been

01:29:57.360 expressed.

01:29:57.740 It's not like culture predates the law, or the law predates culture.

01:30:01.040 It's culture predates the law, which predates the culture.

01:30:02.380 Of course.

01:30:02.680 No, I agree.

01:30:03.360 And so the first thing that has to be done in many of these cases is to stop the law in

01:30:07.280 its tracks and then to start rolling back the law. 0.95

01:30:10.640 And that's pushing in almost Sisyphean ways.

01:30:14.380 Because the bulls are back up the hill.

01:30:16.540 And that's what you're starting to see from Republicans on the transing of the kids, right?

01:30:19.660 Because it's actually not in the states where they are forcibly trying to take the kids

01:30:23.860 away from parents that you're starting to see sort of this push.

01:30:27.480 It's starting with, if you stop it early, you can roll it back, right?

01:30:31.120 Tennessee is not a place where, culturally speaking, you're going to be able to pass

01:30:34.800 a law in the state legislature like you would in California, where it's like, well, if you're

01:30:38.200 unwilling to trans your kids, we're taking your kids. 1.00

01:30:39.640 Like, that crap ain't going to fly in Tennessee, which means... 0.99

01:30:41.800 And yet, at Vanderbilt, they were performing these euphemistically gender-affirming surgeries. 0.99

01:30:48.520 That's what I'm saying.

01:30:48.900 You have to stop the bleeding edge at the bleeding edge.

01:30:51.400 It's a double-pronged approach, right?

01:30:53.740 Which is why, in Tennessee, by the way, tomorrow, they're going to officially file the bill

01:30:59.200 which will ban the transing of kids.

01:31:01.000 Good for you on that one.

01:31:02.280 And also, it will give victims the chance to sue and be compensated.

01:31:08.120 So that's going to be filed tomorrow.

01:31:10.040 You can't neglect one or the other.

01:31:12.920 You have to also...

01:31:13.480 But we've seen how quickly, with the Defense of Marriage Act, for instance, how quickly

01:31:17.100 things can change if the culture is shifting and if people who are leaders and have an effect

01:31:22.000 on the culture shift the minds of people.

01:31:24.680 You know, the law...

01:31:26.000 I mean, just like the Constitution isn't going to defend us if we don't believe in the Constitution.

01:31:29.700 And that's the only point.

01:31:31.340 But my point on it is that we are saying now the law is very oppressive and it used to

01:31:35.780 be very free.

01:31:36.380 But on all of these issues, for all of American history until the 1960s...

01:31:40.380 It wasn't oppressive because the culture supported the law.

01:31:42.480 It becomes oppressive when the law is acting against the culture.

01:31:45.520 But in many cases, the law weakened before these things gained popularity.

01:31:49.120 So, you know, the Supreme Court comes down and says, you can't have the Bible in schools.

01:31:52.840 You can't have prayer in schools.

01:31:54.160 We're going to basically endorse the sexual revolution from the level of the government. 0.99

01:31:58.960 That was before any of those things were mainstream.

01:32:01.160 And then what happens?

01:32:02.240 You get the age of Aquarius in the 60s after that.

01:32:04.220 I'm not sure you're right about this.

01:32:05.460 I think that when you study the Supreme Court more closely, they actually follow the country.

01:32:10.260 That's also true.

01:32:11.520 That's also...

01:32:11.940 No, no, no.

01:32:12.180 I mean, well, to Ben's point, though, there is a...

01:32:13.900 What I would say is they follow what they believe to be the vanguard of the country.

01:32:17.220 Yeah.

01:32:17.360 You saw them do this in Obergefell, right?

01:32:18.780 So in Obergefell, there was not a clear majority of the country that was ready to legalize the

01:32:22.620 state there.

01:32:22.960 No, no.

01:32:23.380 That is not...

01:32:24.180 No, that's true.

01:32:24.540 Right.

01:32:24.820 Most of the states in the country had not legalized or at least mandated from the state

01:32:28.440 that the state is going to involve itself in same-sex marriage.

01:32:31.340 What happened is that the court said there's a trend, and the trend is occurring, and now

01:32:34.220 we're going to force this trend to become the dominant force in American life.

01:32:37.760 Same thing with abortion. 1.00

01:32:38.380 Same thing with abortion. 1.00

01:32:39.200 Same thing with the Bible.

01:32:39.660 Those are the two bad examples of...

01:32:42.840 And the left is very good at forcing a change and then five seconds later convincing everyone

01:32:48.740 that it's...

01:32:50.020 To take it for granted.

01:32:50.960 That it could never be any other way.

01:32:53.280 Which, by the way...

01:32:53.740 It's been this way for five seconds, but it could never be any way but this.

01:32:57.980 We've talked about what the United States Senate should do. 0.97

01:33:00.160 You want to talk about a place where Republicans are completely cowardly. 0.96

01:33:03.200 It is on same-sex marriage. 0.91

01:33:04.740 You have Republicans right now who are going to vote in the Senate to enshrine same-sex

01:33:07.680 marriage as part of the law.

01:33:08.620 I'm sorry.

01:33:08.800 Like Dr. Oz.

01:33:09.180 That's an absurdity.

01:33:09.960 Yeah.

01:33:10.300 That's an absurdity.

01:33:11.140 On all these cultural issues, I think they're spineless.

01:33:14.220 I don't understand...

01:33:15.200 I don't understand why they don't stand for what they stand for.

01:33:17.240 I actually think that, in terms of human history, actually, biology underpins everything.

01:33:22.940 Biology determines the culture, and then culture determined the law. 0.98

01:33:26.340 And then law saw an opportunity and realized that we could have more law if we impacted

01:33:30.040 the culture.

01:33:30.920 And so now that's what you get when you have these two things that are fighting.

01:33:33.660 It's like, oh, wait a minute.

01:33:34.420 Culture's actually really powerful.

01:33:35.500 And maybe more still if you impact biology.

01:33:37.460 Yeah.

01:33:38.560 No, but true.

01:33:39.660 It's like it started here, and then everyone saw an opportunity, and now we're kind of

01:33:43.400 going to the beginning where they're like, yeah, that's exactly what's happened.

01:33:45.920 And again, I do think, again, this changing of the guard, which has been going on now for

01:33:50.840 20 years and is going to go on for another 15 at least, is part of all this.

01:33:55.140 Because when you have a big change like this, it suddenly seems like everything is possible.

01:33:59.320 You go through this, you guys are too young to have gone through a midlife period.

01:34:02.500 But when you go through a midlife period, you suddenly think like, maybe I should be

01:34:05.000 a fighter pilot, you know?

01:34:06.300 And I think we're going through a period like that where people say, maybe a man can become 0.93

01:34:09.520 a woman.

01:34:09.840 And like, that's just going to go away because it's just not true.

01:34:12.780 And ultimately, I think that this moment, which I think is a moment of madness, I think

01:34:17.340 we're seeing the madness of crowds on the sexual issue.

01:34:20.040 I think that that's going to pass away.

01:34:21.920 But it doesn't mean it's going to pass away back into the 50s.

01:34:23.820 You think transgenderism just passes away?

01:34:25.620 I think the idea of-

01:34:26.260 Yeah, it has to.

01:34:27.000 Biology always wins. 1.00

01:34:28.040 Yes, I think the massive, the idea of sweeping transgenderism will pass away. 0.81

01:34:32.020 What Jeremy said before is true, that this is part of human life.

01:34:34.080 I think that the transing of kids is going away. 1.00

01:34:36.500 Yeah.

01:34:36.740 We're beating that.

01:34:37.380 But transgenderism as a concept, I think we've got, we've got probably generations

01:34:42.780 before we defeat it.

01:34:43.340 But on that point, the thing about it, you will never have a society where there isn't

01:34:48.080 transgenderism.

01:34:48.680 That's right.

01:34:48.840 We've never had a society where there wasn't transgenderism.

01:34:50.960 Well, it exists as in there are people who are confused by their gender, but the idea,

01:34:54.080 like-

01:34:54.360 The concept.

01:34:55.160 That we are validating it as a concept.

01:34:57.460 Yeah.

01:34:57.700 I think we've got-

01:34:58.460 I think it will go away.

01:34:59.400 I do.

01:34:59.840 I think because the kids that are doing the surgeries now are going to grow up and become

01:35:02.400 the adults, and then they're going to be-

01:35:03.560 Well, but the problem is, right now, most conservatives-

01:35:07.360 Most conservatives aren't even making-

01:35:09.500 Oh.

01:35:10.800 That was-

01:35:11.340 Somebody has heard.

01:35:12.060 That's the red wave.

01:35:12.820 It's Harmy Dillons! 0.96

01:35:14.240 Yeah.

01:35:14.440 My secret.

01:35:16.920 They just brought the ballots in, actually, for America.

01:35:19.860 You know, but this actually, what we're talking about here on transgenderism and self-identity,

01:35:24.900 I think it relates at a much deeper level to what we're talking about.

01:35:28.140 And we bring up Owen Barfield on every single episode of this show, and it relates here.

01:35:31.660 Because we say biology is bedrock, I think there's something even more bedrock, which

01:35:35.040 is representations, how we view ourselves.

01:35:37.660 And so, when we have this view, you know, post-1960s of, we're this free country, do

01:35:42.260 whatever you want, I think that's not historically what America was.

01:35:45.480 I think there were many more stringent social laws for most of American history than we have

01:35:50.080 today.

01:35:50.940 And we can call them oppressive, but the people didn't really view them as oppressive.

01:35:54.000 And so, you think of something like, now we call ourselves a liberal democracy, where

01:35:57.840 it's our sacred democracy.

01:35:58.940 You always hear about it all the time.

01:36:00.040 That phrase barely appeared in English literature until the 1940s or 50s.

01:36:04.820 That's not how America conceived of itself.

01:36:06.340 It's mostly Lionel Trilling kind of stuff.

01:36:07.720 It's Lionel Trilling stuff.

01:36:08.780 And so, Drew, when you say there is a changing of the guard here, and the party is changing,

01:36:13.160 the vision of the country is changing, that is the most perceptive comment of the whole

01:36:17.260 midterm, as far as I'm concerned, which is, I go back to Cardinal Manning a lot.

01:36:21.080 He says, there is a day that will come that will change the confident judgment, that will

01:36:25.180 reverse the confident judgments of men.

01:36:26.900 And that's what's happening now.

01:36:28.120 Not just self-identity on gender, self-identity as a nation.

01:36:32.060 Yeah, no, I agree with you.

01:36:32.880 I think we're going through a midlife crisis.

01:36:34.680 You know, all this stuff about whatever you were talking about makes me think about hallow.

01:36:42.540 That's funny.

01:36:42.940 It does.

01:36:43.420 Yeah, it does.

01:36:44.500 Yeah, we need faith.

01:36:45.900 Oh, yeah.

01:36:46.640 That was a good trend.

01:36:47.480 We need God.

01:36:48.400 Cardinal Manning, tell them, don't make me do these things.

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01:38:11.660 Some sad news.

01:38:15.700 Beto O'Rourke has lost.

01:38:17.900 No, I know.

01:38:18.940 I didn't want to be the best.

01:38:19.880 You said news.

01:38:22.020 Ben, breathe like a baby.

01:38:23.220 Breathe like a baby.

01:38:27.300 So next question, obviously.

01:38:28.320 You're taking away all my material.

01:38:29.380 How am I supposed to do a show around here?

01:38:31.100 Don't worry.

01:38:31.720 This just means he's going to run for president.

01:38:33.360 No, but he already ran for president.

01:38:34.860 He likes to try something different.

01:38:35.820 He did Senate, and then he did president, and now he did governor.

01:38:37.980 EU.

01:38:38.100 EU.

01:38:38.540 EU.

01:38:38.840 UN Secretary General.

01:38:40.020 He could be Pope.

01:38:41.580 Pope.

01:38:42.200 He could actually be Pope.

01:38:43.240 Is he popopulae these days, maybe?

01:38:44.880 Would he be worse than Francis or better than Francis?

01:38:46.660 You know, what is he?

01:38:47.940 Better.

01:38:48.160 That's a toss-up.

01:38:49.880 Yeah.

01:38:50.800 I do.

01:38:51.520 Have we talked on that?

01:38:52.360 We've talked off stage.

01:38:53.180 I don't know if we've talked on the show.

01:38:54.920 What happens if Francis dies before Benedict?

01:38:57.400 Sure would be weird, wouldn't it?

01:39:00.100 What would it mean?

01:39:01.220 What would it have?

01:39:01.540 Sure would be weird.

01:39:02.400 Why are you saying that, Mike?

01:39:03.320 Yeah, the way you said that was very...

01:39:05.320 I'm saying it in a weird way.

01:39:06.180 It's kind of weird because some people think that you can't resign the papacy, you know?

01:39:10.120 And it's kind of weird.

01:39:10.720 And then the Pope, Benedict, resigned for health reasons like 10 years ago almost.

01:39:15.960 And he just kept on living.

01:39:16.700 Yeah.

01:39:16.900 Kept on living and writing some things that look like encyclicals.

01:39:19.700 So anyway, it's just really weird.

01:39:20.880 And dressing exactly like he's the Pope?

01:39:22.460 Yeah, it's just weird is, I guess, what I'm saying.

01:39:24.580 What?

01:39:25.360 Come on.

01:39:26.460 Explain it.

01:39:27.640 I wouldn't even endorse Trump or DeSantis.

01:39:29.860 I'm just saying things are weird, man.

01:39:31.320 I don't know.

01:39:31.940 We live in interesting times.

01:39:33.760 So wait.

01:39:34.600 First of all, this is...

01:39:36.520 Explain an outsider.

01:39:38.600 I'll finish before this election special is over.

01:39:42.040 As an outsider, it seems to me that Benedict resigned for no reason and then the Antichrist

01:39:45.940 took over.

01:39:46.480 Now, is that a fairly accurate...

01:39:48.020 You know, to put it more charitably, some have suggested an anti-Pope.

01:39:51.280 But I don't know.

01:39:52.180 I mean, it's more complicated than all that.

01:39:54.180 But it is kind of weird.

01:39:56.220 You know, it's only happened at most one other time that a Pope has resigned.

01:39:59.720 Well, you always qualify that.

01:40:01.080 Whenever you talk about it, you say it's only happened at most once.

01:40:04.540 Because I don't know that you can resign the Papacy.

01:40:06.020 So you don't know that it's ever happened, in other words.

01:40:07.640 Yeah.

01:40:08.200 Yeah.

01:40:08.680 It's just a very...

01:40:10.500 Wouldn't that sort of be like, if the divine line of kings is broken, that every Pope since

01:40:14.980 then has been not the Pope?

01:40:15.800 No.

01:40:16.100 No.

01:40:16.420 Not necessarily.

01:40:17.680 I mean, there are longstanding questions of this.

01:40:19.980 And, you know, when the Papacy moved to Avignon, there were anti-Popes in Rome and all sorts.

01:40:23.860 You know, the thing is...

01:40:24.780 Was there like an anti-Anti-Pope?

01:40:25.740 There was...

01:40:26.280 Yeah.

01:40:26.760 When you become an anti-Anti-Pope, are you just the Pope?

01:40:28.780 It's like anti-Trump.

01:40:29.440 Yeah.

01:40:30.240 That's right.

01:40:30.880 Anti-Anti-Trump.

01:40:31.240 Like, is that how that works?

01:40:32.260 So, you know, but it is an open question.

01:40:35.880 And I'm actually not being all that coy in that truly my whole opinion on the thing is

01:40:40.680 it's just kind of weird.

01:40:43.380 And ultimately, you know, the thing when it comes to the Catholic Church, I believe, is

01:40:47.540 ultimately the Holy Spirit is guiding it and will never leave the Church.

01:40:50.460 When it comes to the American presidency, you know, I think we might have a little more power. 0.61

01:40:54.400 What you're going to say is if you resign the Papacy, you have an obligation to just die. 0.99

01:40:59.200 Soon. 0.98

01:41:00.000 Like, you can't hang around the Pope.

01:41:01.520 I don't know that one can resign, really, you know?

01:41:03.520 I mean, it's kind of odd.

01:41:04.600 The person I would most like to see elected Pope is our good friend Stephen Crowder.

01:41:07.840 He's joining us right now.

01:41:09.340 What?

01:41:10.680 Listen, he'd be a great Pope.

01:41:12.220 He does everything that a Pope, as a Protestant, Stephen Crowder has all the qualities of a 0.99

01:41:17.580 great Pope.

01:41:17.980 Is this an ad?

01:41:18.740 Yeah.

01:41:19.800 He's got a beard.

01:41:21.580 He's genuinely funny. 0.97

01:41:23.000 He wears silly hats. 0.86

01:41:24.760 And he's always packing heat. 0.99

01:41:27.040 I should be Pope, right?

01:41:28.620 What am I missing?

01:41:29.120 Anything that had to do with being a Pope, though, is my question.

01:41:31.580 Well, I said I'm a Protestant.

01:41:33.480 I don't really peddle in, like, all these, like, virtue and chastity.

01:41:37.440 Not for me.

01:41:38.260 Stephen Crowder from Louder with Crowder here with us.

01:41:41.160 And I think we're also here with him.

01:41:42.200 I think it's kind of a cross-stream thing.

01:41:43.420 I don't fully understand it. 0.92

01:41:44.680 I also don't know how long I can keep talking before they just put him on the freaking screen. 0.88

01:41:48.700 Hey, Stephen Crowder. 0.87

01:41:49.840 No, not mine.

01:41:50.700 And this is also important because Kemp, right, when we're talking about Kemp and Abrams,

01:41:54.680 they tried to accuse...

01:41:55.640 Remember, this is the...

01:41:56.520 If you go watch that film on HBO, we can say this.

01:41:58.860 Maybe we can even show some of it on Rumble.

01:42:00.540 Kill Chain on HBO.

01:42:01.880 This is a whole documentary about vote fraud with Stacey Abrams and with Kemp.

01:42:04.960 And guess what?

01:42:05.540 They showed how you could hack Dominion voting machines live in that film.

01:42:09.380 And they tried to suggest that Kemp did it and then said, by the way, no, we were totally

01:42:12.240 wrong about that.

01:42:12.880 It could never happen.

01:42:13.340 Daily Wire is ready to go.

01:42:13.920 We're watching.

01:42:14.340 Are they ready to go?

01:42:15.060 Are they ready to go?

01:42:16.060 Let's steal her in. 0.99

01:42:16.860 I don't want to get pissed off.

01:42:18.220 An amazing job right now.

01:42:19.840 Stephen Crowder, I just said that you should be the next Pope.

01:42:23.700 Tell me why I'm wrong.

01:42:24.400 All right, Daily Wire, the whole troupe.

01:42:26.280 Are you there?

01:42:27.940 We are.

01:42:28.880 We are.

01:42:29.760 We were just talking about how you should be the next Pope.

01:42:32.720 Why should I...

01:42:33.540 What?

01:42:33.800 Well, I couldn't pull off the red shoes.

01:42:37.920 The Prada is not flattering on everybody.

01:42:40.320 That's true.

01:42:41.380 Well, Knowles and Walsh obviously are the resident Catholics there.

01:42:44.340 What is it?

01:42:44.880 Is it?

01:42:45.440 This is my understanding that not only is there someone who makes the shoes for the Pope,

01:42:47.860 which I understand.

01:42:49.340 And there is someone who makes some other shoes, but there is someone who exclusively

01:42:53.440 makes the red shoes.

01:42:55.000 Yeah.

01:42:55.740 Yeah.

01:42:56.200 I mean, I don't have a pair, unfortunately.

01:42:58.240 I'm not sufficiently high up in the hierarchy.

01:43:01.720 But I don't know.

01:43:02.460 Someday, if you are in power, Stephen, I hope that I get a pair.

01:43:06.160 Well, I don't know.

01:43:06.800 If I'd be a Pope with a nice pair of Vans.

01:43:09.200 Yeah.

01:43:11.860 The American Pope.

01:43:13.420 Daily Wire, what are you guys...

01:43:14.860 Have you guys been following...

01:43:15.780 Obviously, I know you've been following the election.

01:43:17.120 What have you been covering here on the Arizona stuff?

01:43:21.160 Because I think you guys...

01:43:22.160 I have to be careful.

01:43:22.980 We're on Rumble here tonight.

01:43:23.960 We're not on YouTube for reasons.

01:43:25.420 We had Carrie Lick on our street. 1.00

01:43:26.060 Well, I'd just like to say this, Stephen, just for YouTube, you know.

01:43:28.980 Obviously, there are never any questions about election integrity, and I believe anything

01:43:35.060 that the government tells me.

01:43:36.820 Amen.

01:43:37.400 Yes, absolutely.

01:43:38.040 Are we good?

01:43:38.900 We're good?

01:43:39.240 Yeah, we're covering it.

01:43:40.420 Jason Campbell is sitting at his laptop going, I've almost got him.

01:43:44.740 I've almost got him.

01:43:45.580 No, I'm not going to come on and get you guys in trouble.

01:43:48.500 Believe me, I'm not going to say anything to get you guys in trouble.

01:43:49.920 We'll talk about it afterwards on Rumble, because the Arizona stuff is bizarre, and we

01:43:55.360 just watched on CNN.

01:43:56.160 They said, we fixed the problems, and did you...

01:43:58.120 I don't know if you saw this on CNN.

01:43:59.560 Hey, Andrew.

01:44:00.140 Nice to see you, by the way.

01:44:00.900 Hey.

01:44:01.600 And Ben and Candace.

01:44:02.540 Candace, you're the smallest from me, from the depth of field, because I'm looking at

01:44:05.520 a camera, and you're also...

01:44:06.380 Oh, hi, Candace.

01:44:07.060 Okay, looking lovely.

01:44:07.700 You make everyone... 1.00

01:44:08.300 You make all these guys look like shit. 1.00

01:44:10.560 So... 1.00

01:44:11.000 I think I'm courage it takes to sit next to me.

01:44:14.360 I'm not being facetious at all.

01:44:16.080 No, I don't.

01:44:16.640 They just, on CNN...

01:44:18.340 Hold on a second here.

01:44:19.660 I have to bring this up, because it's screwing up my iPad.

01:44:22.340 On CNN, they sent someone out to Nevada.

01:44:24.740 Was it, Gerald?

01:44:26.740 It was Nevada.

01:44:27.260 I'm sorry, what?

01:44:27.720 They sent someone out to Nevada on CNN.

01:44:29.180 Las Vegas.

01:44:30.420 Nevada.

01:44:31.220 Yeah, yeah.

01:44:31.640 Yes.

01:44:31.940 I'm saying I'm being more specific.

01:44:32.760 I'm sorry, guys.

01:44:33.480 This is a disaster.

01:44:34.140 I was drinking water.

01:44:34.620 So they sent someone out to Nevada to go look at a poll, right?

01:44:37.060 To go look at a voting precinct.

01:44:38.320 And, of course, we know Nevada is very likely going to be red by a significant margin. 0.69

01:44:42.660 And, of course, we know that same-day voting favors Republicans.

01:44:44.940 Now, I guarantee you this is what happened.

01:44:46.700 And let me explain to you.

01:44:47.540 And you tell me if you think that I'm being presumptuous.

01:44:49.440 So he goes out there.

01:44:50.840 And he's in a mall that looks like Fast Times at Ridgemont High, as one does.

01:44:53.780 And so he goes there.

01:44:55.000 And I bet you the CNN producer said, look, it's same-day voting.

01:44:58.060 That's going to be heavily Republican.

01:44:59.460 And this is not going to go well for us in Nevada.

01:45:01.100 We need you to find a precinct where same-day voting is going to lean heavily blue.

01:45:06.740 And he said, say no more.

01:45:08.440 And he's talking to people in line underneath a Mercado, Super Mercado sign, not a word of English written.

01:45:19.800 That's not a great story.

01:45:21.980 No, no.

01:45:22.600 I'm saying that's the only place he could find anyone because the Telemundo offices weren't available.

01:45:27.160 It's the only place that he could find majority Democrat voters.

01:45:30.580 He was just like, hey, who are you voting for?

01:45:32.220 I am voting for a Democrat, and that was it.

01:45:34.180 I think the problem is that I just didn't understand the joke.

01:45:37.620 No, it's not a joke.

01:45:38.700 This actually just happened on CNN.

01:45:40.040 He's underneath the sign that says Super Mercado.

01:45:43.040 It's where he went, an entirely Hispanic area.

01:45:45.580 That's a really good Spanish accent you got going there.

01:45:49.360 Super Mercado.

01:45:50.880 Well, sorry, we can't all be Dominican, or whatever the hell it is.

01:45:54.560 Yeah.

01:45:56.760 You weave quite a tail.

01:45:59.320 We can't all look like we're walking around in a perfect Dominican brown suede evening gown.

01:46:04.560 Rub it in my face, Candace.

01:46:07.380 That's just not fair.

01:46:08.980 So, Stephen, who's going to win and who's going to lose?

01:46:12.020 Just tell us that.

01:46:13.080 As the Pope.

01:46:15.320 Yes.

01:46:15.920 As the Vans Pope.

01:46:17.460 Yes.

01:46:18.100 I'm the new Vans Pope.

01:46:19.520 I will say this.

01:46:21.140 I would have expected Arizona, Carrie Lake, you know, if not for all the... 1.00

01:46:28.180 Questions?

01:46:30.820 Irregularities?

01:46:31.680 Strange coincidences?

01:46:32.620 Excellent voting procedures.

01:46:34.180 Mm.

01:46:34.740 Yeah.

01:46:35.460 I think...

01:46:36.080 Listen, I'm troubled by what's going on in Maricopa County.

01:46:39.900 I think that it's unconscionable that you can't, in the United States of America, in the year of our Lord, respectfully, 2022...

01:46:45.960 Don't tell that to me.

01:46:48.720 Tell that to Ben.

01:46:49.440 Yeah.

01:46:49.760 That you can't...

01:46:50.580 That you can't actually effectuate an election successfully is unbelievable.

01:46:56.060 But I still think Carrie Lake's going to win. 1.00

01:46:59.000 I think that we're going to spend all evening fretting about Arizona, and Arizona's actually going to be a bright spot by the time that the evening's over.

01:47:05.080 I'm a little bit more concerned about Herschel Walker down in Georgia.

01:47:09.220 I'm a little bit more concerned about Dr. Oz over in Pennsylvania.

01:47:12.400 I'm a little bit more concerned that we're going to lose races where it isn't because the voting machines aren't working.

01:47:19.660 I have a feeling we're going to still fare...

01:47:21.340 I hope...

01:47:21.840 I mean, I'll be the first to admit if I'm wrong, but I'm hopeful that Arizona's actually going to break our way, even with all these irregularities.

01:47:28.120 Well, I agree with you, and I was just talking about...

01:47:30.020 You know, obviously, you guys are the political experts.

01:47:31.920 I'm just a comedian with a horrible Hispanic accent. 1.00

01:47:35.100 But I will say... 0.88

01:47:36.220 I took offense to that.

01:47:36.920 Maybe someone can clarify for me.

01:47:40.560 Explain this to me like I'm a dummy without getting banned from YouTube.

01:47:44.020 I was about to say, hold on.

01:47:44.820 They're on YouTube.

01:47:45.980 We're not.

01:47:46.380 We have the freedom of not being there right now.

01:47:47.880 Yes, and genuinely, I know you guys are probably on edge because I'm not going to do anything like that.

01:47:52.880 You guys are in trouble.

01:47:54.700 I promise you, you have my word.

01:47:56.400 But here's my question.

01:47:57.760 They're talking...

01:47:58.400 And, Jeremy, to what you were just discussing there.

01:48:00.940 Okay, Arizona.

01:48:01.760 I think it'll be a bright spot long term.

01:48:05.420 But, and this is something we sort of have all accepted, and I just was discussing this.

01:48:10.520 They're saying, hey, we will have a certain percentage of the vote tonight until we might have 99%.

01:48:16.640 They just said this on CNN by Friday, once we count the early voting.

01:48:20.660 Now, hold on a second.

01:48:21.400 If I may, just go with me for a second.

01:48:23.180 Wouldn't it stand to reason that the early voting could be counted early?

01:48:28.880 I don't understand why the same-day voting is counted today, and the early voting is counted Friday. 0.87

01:48:35.840 Your thoughts, I may be functionally retarded. 0.86

01:48:38.220 I've never heard a valid explanation. 1.00

01:48:39.720 Yeah, so this is actually idiotic state law in places like Pennsylvania as well. 0.98

01:48:44.620 In Florida, that's not the way it works, right? 0.98

01:48:46.360 My home, wonderful state of Florida, which I've been praising all night long for being the best state in America.

01:48:51.880 Florida, they do count all of the election ballots early as they come in,

01:48:56.800 and that's why they're able to get out all of the election tabulations in like an hour and a half of the polls closing.

01:49:00.860 In Pennsylvania, they are legally not allowed, by law, to count the early ballots until the polls close.

01:49:05.820 That's it.

01:49:06.220 Well, hold on.

01:49:07.260 Pennsylvania, they don't follow their own laws.

01:49:09.820 Okay.

01:49:10.300 They don't follow their own law.

01:49:12.660 They don't throw out the law.

01:49:14.220 The law.

01:49:15.260 But that's true. 0.98

01:49:16.640 But what I'm saying is that a lot of these states just have crap voting procedures, 0.83

01:49:19.820 and that just didn't get fixed from 2020. 0.88

01:49:23.840 And, you know, in some states like Arizona, there's no excuse for it because Republicans were,

01:49:27.640 well, actually Katie Hobbs is running the place in Arizona, right? 1.00

01:49:29.760 Well, Katie Hobbs is Secretary of State who also has the final say in that. 1.00

01:49:33.000 Right.

01:49:33.340 A lot of coincidence.

01:49:33.840 That's amazing in Arizona, yeah.

01:49:35.300 And in Nevada, it's the Democrats who are running the thing.

01:49:37.720 In places like Pennsylvania and Georgia, there really is no excuse for not fixing the voting procedures at this point 0.99

01:49:42.280 because this is third, it really is third world crap. 0.94

01:49:44.860 But isn't the problem... 0.99

01:49:45.860 It's not even third world crap. 0.98

01:49:47.440 You dip your finger in the purple ink. 0.95

01:49:49.420 You put your finger on the person you want.

01:49:51.440 That's how they do it in the third world. 1.00

01:49:52.580 And then somebody counts the purple dots.

01:49:54.440 You can do it all in a day.

01:49:55.800 But we're worse than the third world. 0.99

01:49:57.340 Isn't the problem not the counting of the early votes?

01:50:00.640 I don't know if we're allowed to say this, but isn't the problem the early votes?

01:50:03.920 I mean, you shouldn't be voting for two months.

01:50:05.640 I thought for an election.

01:50:06.560 Isn't the problem the switching?

01:50:07.920 Yeah, yeah.

01:50:08.620 And all the fraud that takes place.

01:50:10.520 But that's secondary.

01:50:11.600 A joke.

01:50:11.820 A joke.

01:50:12.100 Of course, we're joking.

01:50:12.940 We're joking.

01:50:13.360 But isn't, you know, we shouldn't have two months of voting, right?

01:50:16.740 I mean, that's a big problem.

01:50:18.100 Republicans need to come out against it and stop it and stop saying,

01:50:21.320 well, we're just going to fix it around the margins.

01:50:23.360 Don't fix it around the margins.

01:50:24.440 The only reason they have early voting is because they exploited COVID

01:50:27.100 to pretend that this cough was the reason why we had to destroy all our election laws.

01:50:30.600 And then they kept it in place implausibly in this election.

01:50:33.380 And they're going to keep it until we stop it.

01:50:34.660 You have two years to plan your day, to carve out some time to go vote.

01:50:39.400 Two years to figure that out.

01:50:40.660 There's no reason why you can't do it.

01:50:41.720 Okay, I have another question also, actually.

01:50:43.580 And this one is about the state Republican parties.

01:50:45.100 This is a real question.

01:50:46.380 Why is it that the best state in the country, Florida,

01:50:48.580 they could rack up voter registrations for the Republican Party

01:50:51.480 to the point where they were actually out-registering the Democrats by this election cycle?

01:50:55.340 And in Arizona and in Georgia and in Pennsylvania,

01:50:57.500 apparently everybody just went to sleep for two years instead of actually registering voters.

01:51:01.340 What the hell are you doing?

01:51:02.460 This is why Zeldin can't win in New York, because they have no organization.

01:51:07.320 Every single Republican who wins builds his own kind of world for himself.

01:51:12.080 Where every Democrat who wins builds a coalition, you know, builds a machine.

01:51:15.620 Builds the machine.

01:51:16.180 Well, I think in Arizona, there's a little, obviously you can't underestimate the idea of,

01:51:20.500 you know, Hobbes being Secretary of State, who was planning all along to run for governor.

01:51:24.560 And I do think that Carrie Lake kind of emerged because there weren't a ton of strong people in Arizona. 0.52

01:51:28.920 Once she emerged, she emerged very, very strongly.

01:51:31.140 And you look at that gap that was made up as quickly as it was.

01:51:33.860 Here's my point with Carrie Lake and Hobbes.

01:51:36.460 All right.

01:51:37.780 You are, you're Hobbes.

01:51:39.100 Okay.

01:51:39.640 You're ahead.

01:51:40.400 Now the gap has tightened.

01:51:42.000 Now you're losing.

01:51:43.240 You're not showing up for media.

01:51:44.660 You're not hitting the ground.

01:51:45.720 So we can talk about Republicans not being very active, but think about this for a second.

01:51:48.600 You're not really hitting the ground running.

01:51:49.840 Not a super effective grassroots campaign.

01:51:51.360 And then you don't even show up for a debate when, at that point, at best, it was a statistical heat.

01:51:57.420 At worst, she was already, it's like she didn't want to win.

01:52:00.500 But, you know, hey, why does that matter when the voting machines go down?

01:52:03.620 Maybe she knew she might get lucky and have 20% of the machines just magically go. 0.97

01:52:08.140 Maybe, I'm just saying, maybe she had a dream and then suddenly she got lucky.

01:52:11.060 20% of the machines go out, you know, this is YouTube.

01:52:13.840 I want to keep this user friendly. 0.98

01:52:16.020 No, you're going to see Candace Owens doesn't give a shit about YouTube. 1.00

01:52:18.680 That's what I think about you. 0.97

01:52:21.360 Candace can tell jokes just as funny as Steven.

01:52:24.580 Yeah, there we go.

01:52:25.900 Yes, yes.

01:52:27.060 I'll have Candace go up with Dave at the Ryman.

01:52:30.320 We'll do it.

01:52:30.980 Yes. 0.62

01:52:33.780 Except we should warn you, Dave's crowd is a little bit white supremacy.

01:52:38.100 Yeah.

01:52:39.060 It's fun.

01:52:39.580 It's Candace.

01:52:40.560 We're from Southern California.

01:52:42.140 It's white supremacist adjacent.

01:52:44.600 Right, right.

01:52:46.120 Yeah.

01:52:46.460 Well, Ben Shapiro really brings them in.

01:52:48.100 Talk about canvassing.

01:52:49.040 Oh, my gosh.

01:52:49.740 He looks like if Ed Furlong didn't get shot at the end of American history, yes.

01:52:56.400 He would be Ben today.

01:53:00.060 You know, I love each other.

01:53:02.000 Your move, Candace.

01:53:04.140 Try and come on down to my dark corner of the world.

01:53:06.820 And I mean that figuratively, not the beautiful.

01:53:08.920 You know, every time you make jokes like that, Steven, it reminds me of one of the great days of my life.

01:53:13.180 The time that you were waterboarded.

01:53:14.320 Mine, too.

01:53:17.560 I loved it.

01:53:18.620 That was a wonderful time for everybody.

01:53:21.560 That was a Christmas episode, was it not?

01:53:23.640 It was in celebration of our Lord and Savior.

01:53:26.880 It was, you got to watch me waterboard, if I recall correctly.

01:53:30.840 So that was...

01:53:31.440 Everyone move your chairs back from Ben about six inches.

01:53:34.060 He's going to spontaneously combust.

01:53:35.580 It's true.

01:53:36.460 That wasn't a...

01:53:37.780 Go ahead.

01:53:38.320 Go ahead.

01:53:38.520 Did I tell you, Ben, that I tried to cheat that, the waterboarding?

01:53:41.420 For people who don't know, I thought I...

01:53:42.780 Yeah, what happened is they put the cloth over my face.

01:53:44.880 Remember, it was Tim Kennedy.

01:53:45.860 And I thought that if I stuck my tongue out, I'd create like a pup tent effect.

01:53:49.700 And the water wouldn't go.

01:53:50.800 But it's so immediate.

01:53:52.080 I was like, ah!

01:53:52.940 It just makes it worse.

01:53:56.380 So it's like I thought that I'd figured something out that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed missed.

01:54:02.320 Did I tell you to enjoy waterboarding?

01:54:04.220 Like, it was one of the great days, and I was so excited to see Stephen suffer.

01:54:10.820 Yeah.

01:54:12.480 And he took it like such a man.

01:54:14.740 Yeah.

01:54:14.960 I hate to say anything kind about him.

01:54:17.980 He would have lasted, at Gitmo, he would have lasted like 11 and a half seconds, which

01:54:24.300 would have been an all-time record.

01:54:26.420 And I was so angry that he suffered so little that I went upstairs and clogged his crapper.

01:54:30.700 He's trying to get out ahead of it, because he knew I was going to bring that up anyway.

01:54:36.960 He took an awkward decker.

01:54:39.900 In his brand new beautiful house.

01:54:42.780 Yes.

01:54:43.860 Let me hear from you.

01:54:44.740 What are your sort of flyer predictions there?

01:54:47.080 I mean, the one that I sort of, I said, you know, I think an upset could be Oregon.

01:54:50.780 I think 10-pack Skotek could be going down.

01:54:53.900 And then I think that Hochul wins, but I said by less than four.

01:54:56.960 Those were kind of the ones that, oh, and I think that Evers, or Evers, sorry, loses

01:55:01.760 in Wisconsin, Democrat there.

01:55:03.560 But what do you guys have as far as long shots or sort of what you would call predictions

01:55:07.280 that maybe are off the beaten path?

01:55:08.740 You know, I was a little bit more optimistic, I'll admit, like two hours ago.

01:55:12.780 And I think that as the night wears on and as I have to spend more time with you, I become

01:55:17.840 more pessimistic about the state of the world.

01:55:19.820 And so some of my upset predictions, like Hochul, I actually thought had a chance of losing

01:55:23.620 that race.

01:55:24.260 I doubt at this point, given sort of the returns that we've seen, that she's going

01:55:28.060 to lose that race.

01:55:29.280 Also, I think that the estimates that Republicans were going to take 53, 54 seats in the Senate,

01:55:34.020 those are starting to look a little bit outpaced right now in Georgia.

01:55:36.920 Walker and Warnock look like they may go to a runoff.

01:55:39.020 That may be the most plausible possibility right there.

01:55:42.160 Well, it's a good thing they're the pro ball player. 1.00

01:55:43.620 He can run that shit. 0.99

01:55:46.280 Well, I mean, the good news is we can always come up with some extra children who may be of 1.00

01:55:49.180 age at this point.

01:55:49.740 I mean, maybe they can finally tip this thing over into the victory category for the Republicans

01:55:55.600 in Georgia.

01:55:56.800 But it's the joke is right there.

01:55:59.040 I had to take it.

01:56:00.640 When you open it, you have to go for it.

01:56:03.280 You run to daylight.

01:56:04.180 Run to daylight, guys.

01:56:07.840 We've had an ongoing joke about Herschel Walker campaigning against demon babies, which 1.00

01:56:11.980 makes sense to only people watching this.

01:56:13.380 Yes, that's true. 0.90

01:56:14.960 Fool me once, demon baby, but demon baby is not going to fool me again. 0.99

01:56:18.140 We need to throw them all in the potter. 0.99

01:56:19.740 The demon baby is an epidemic in the country. 1.00

01:56:21.840 I'm going to take out every last demon baby. 0.99

01:56:23.640 Because it sounds like something he would actually do. 0.99

01:56:25.500 You think they look like regular babies, but they're not.

01:56:28.280 You look at that baby.

01:56:29.240 You say, that baby looked like the Gerber baby.

01:56:31.360 I say, you mispronounced demon baby.

01:56:32.900 Your baby look at me cross. 0.97

01:56:33.940 I drown.

01:56:34.540 Yep. 0.91

01:56:34.920 That's the only way to handle demon baby. 1.00

01:56:37.080 Got to drown the demon baby. 1.00

01:56:38.260 And I, when I was sheriff, I drowned every last damn demon baby that I saw. 1.00

01:56:43.340 And I'm going to drown every last damn demon baby that I come across. 1.00

01:56:46.360 Whether it's a runoff, walk off, demon baby off, I'll go off with your demon baby. 1.00

01:56:50.160 Is your baby crying out in there playing? 0.99

01:56:51.500 You had a point, I think.

01:56:53.880 I loved the Daily Wire.

01:56:55.660 It was still a great time.

01:56:57.540 Some of the best times of my life.

01:56:58.540 It was.

01:56:59.680 The best times of my life.

01:57:00.760 Is that the vitamin C song playing? 1.00

01:57:03.000 Damn it. 1.00

01:57:05.560 You know, Ben, why do you have to be such a pessimist? 1.00

01:57:08.040 I mean, aside from the fact that I'm here on your stream.

01:57:09.760 But I don't see any reason that we wouldn't be able to pull the old Senate majority here.

01:57:16.640 Really, if Fetterman wins, we still only need two, unless they've called some things during this interview.

01:57:22.440 That's totally within the realm of possibility.

01:57:24.180 Again, I don't think that.

01:57:25.200 I think the Republicans, I think 51 is still, you know, very, very, very plausible, actually.

01:57:30.520 But I think that 53, 54, which is kind of how the night started, which is, we're going to take New Hampshire.

01:57:34.960 We're going to take Pennsylvania.

01:57:35.660 We're going to take Arizona.

01:57:36.660 We're going to take Georgia.

01:57:37.220 We're going to take Nevada.

01:57:38.040 Maybe we'll take Washington state.

01:57:40.300 Like, I think that some of those things have started to, you know, reality has started to creep in.

01:57:44.440 Still, it can be a good night for Republicans.

01:57:46.440 Listen, Republicans having the House alone means that Joe Biden's agenda is now over and he's not effectively president anymore because he just can't get anything through.

01:57:53.360 But with that said, like, my, you know, it's late at night.

01:57:59.460 We're hanging out with you.

01:58:01.040 It's a dark time for all of us.

01:58:02.420 And, you know, one of the things that just occurs to me is that candidate quality actually matters just a little bit.

01:58:08.600 And this has been my message of the evening.

01:58:09.920 No, I agree with you.

01:58:10.380 I agree with you.

01:58:11.480 And I also, hey, guys, for everyone else not named Ben, when was the crossover moment that Ben got a stylist?

01:58:16.680 Because I don't know when it happened.

01:58:18.020 It was a night and day difference.

01:58:19.240 Slappy's revenge?

01:58:23.080 No, Ben went, Ben, you know this.

01:58:24.580 You went from, you know, like golf shirts like Gerald here.

01:58:26.800 Whoa, whoa, whoa.

01:58:27.840 Don't throw me in here.

01:58:28.700 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:58:29.780 And then all of a sudden you started looking like you were, you know, a Xenia ad.

01:58:33.400 Hugo Boss, whatever.

01:58:34.400 I was going to say Hugo Boss, but then I realized the whole not.

01:58:36.460 This is 100% true.

01:58:37.800 Yeah.

01:58:38.180 No, I mean, you're right.

01:58:39.320 It was certainly after I wasn't killed at the end of American History X.

01:58:44.480 Celebrated life.

01:58:45.040 And you were growing a beard for a time.

01:58:45.800 Yeah, that was a zigzag that I was sorry about.

01:58:48.320 You were growing a beard and then you just shaved it.

01:58:49.140 I faked y'all out.

01:58:49.980 It was the most important political story of 2020. 0.88

01:58:52.440 Well, he shaved off the beard because Kanye thought he was a Jewish werewolf, by God. 0.74

01:59:03.900 Howling at the moon. 1.00

01:59:05.180 Try and play me for a fool. 1.00

01:59:06.920 Dan. 1.00

01:59:07.560 Ha.

01:59:08.920 Where is he?

01:59:13.840 Oh, man.

01:59:14.580 This is why we can't have nice things.

01:59:16.740 Like friendships or a company.

01:59:18.220 Well, look, guys, I think, hey, Andrew, you don't ever, Andrew, you never call me anymore.

01:59:24.880 Andrew, you never call me anymore, bro.

01:59:26.020 I know.

01:59:26.120 You never talk to me.

01:59:26.500 This one's for Candace.

01:59:27.680 You used to call me all the time and say, please, get me a job.

01:59:30.040 And now I never hear from you anymore.

01:59:31.720 Once I realized you had no power.

01:59:34.300 I kept telling you, I kept telling you, I kept telling you, no one could place you, Stephen.

01:59:39.640 I'm sorry.

01:59:40.700 And all those long nights for nothing.

01:59:45.900 All right.

01:59:46.520 Well, look, guys, I appreciate, I think there's a lot to, do you think, do you think we'll have

01:59:50.000 any, final question, do you think we'll have any concrete results here tonight?

01:59:52.540 Do you think we'll actually be able to make some calls?

01:59:53.980 I know the media doesn't want us to be able to.

01:59:55.640 Jean-Jean-Pierre was very clear.

01:59:57.260 It could take months to count the election, and that means the election is working.

02:00:02.000 So let's all calm down.

02:00:03.680 You know, there's only, there's only one race I care about, Stephen. 1.00

02:00:06.580 You asked for long shots.

02:00:07.860 I, my, my, my, my, my, my race.

02:00:11.940 That goes without saying.

02:00:14.120 That's the, is it New York 7th?

02:00:16.300 For real, right?

02:00:17.280 So, yeah, yeah, I'm sort of.

02:00:18.760 Okay, he can make, he can make that joke.

02:00:20.280 He's an Italian, right?

02:00:21.080 He's part Sicilian, the Southern Italian.

02:00:22.620 The Sicilians have always occupied an ambiguous racial territory, which is very helpful.

02:00:28.180 The race that I'm looking at is New York 17.

02:00:30.540 Sean Patrick Maloney is the head of the DCCC Campaign Committee.

02:00:33.700 And, you know, he could lose.

02:00:35.360 I don't know that he will.

02:00:36.380 If he loses, though, that is a message to not just some random Democrat in New York.

02:00:41.800 It's a message to the whole campaign.

02:00:44.060 It's a message, actually, to the entire party in the House.

02:00:47.340 And so there's a very, very good shot we will get those results tonight.

02:00:51.420 That would be extraordinarily satisfying.

02:00:54.120 And then on those crucial races, we're probably going to have to wait until 2027 to figure out what happened.

02:00:58.940 Yeah.

02:00:59.320 Well, I think, I think you're right.

02:01:00.820 And I will say this, too.

02:01:01.480 I think this is, this is what, obviously, I don't think this is the most important election of our lifetime.

02:01:05.520 I think it's the precursor to the most important election of our lifetime in 2024.

02:01:08.360 That's, that's how I see it.

02:01:09.620 And that's why I see the gubernatorial races.

02:01:11.060 You know, I think you guys would probably agree most indicative of where we would be if you were to hold a national election today, because obviously with the House, obviously with the Senate, less so.

02:01:21.240 But kind of as you veer more towards governorships, you're talking about local politics, which is why local politics are so important.

02:01:27.620 You know, how effective you are with kind of a campaign, right?

02:01:29.840 You can have red states that have entirely blue races or entirely blue victories.

02:01:34.380 The governorships here and the momentum that we're seeing there is, I think, a pretty strong indicator of where we're going in 2024.

02:01:39.580 And I think, you know, the last election that we covered, you know, was a sort of a referendum on legacy media.

02:01:44.780 And last we checked here, we're not on YouTube.

02:01:47.520 We're not on Facebook tonight.

02:01:48.980 But, you know, I mean, 350, 400,000 people, something like that on Rumble.

02:01:54.200 This is a sort of a referendum right now on YouTube.

02:01:57.080 And I think it's a good thing.

02:01:57.860 You guys are building your own platform, obviously, with Daily Wire.

02:02:01.040 But this is, I think, a tectonic shift of people realizing we all want to be off of these platforms.

02:02:06.180 But there isn't a viable alternative tonight.

02:02:08.660 Enough people are migrating away that I do think that's a really big win just beyond the politics.

02:02:13.920 But I will leave you guys with with this.

02:02:16.980 Candace is actually she she brought up a very good point about Jean-Pierre.

02:02:21.380 Then that's how, you know, the election is working.

02:02:23.140 I couldn't hear. I think that was the person you were quoting. Right, Candace?

02:02:26.080 Yeah, that's right.

02:02:26.700 Yeah. And the thing is, they could not be a more, you know, that's the most apt person to to be making that comparison.

02:02:33.820 Because do you know why that Herschel Walker tell you that Jean-Pierre, that is one grown up, grown ass demon, baby. 0.98

02:02:40.760 Deadly Wire, thank you so much. We'll be back later. 0.99

02:02:42.280 All right. Thanks, Stephen, for destroying your company.

02:02:49.400 I hope I get that guy in the Secret Santa this year.

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02:04:13.400 Wow. That's a dude who says stuff.

02:04:16.500 We've been here long enough now to have stale popcorn.

02:04:18.680 It's just like, they have to actually refresh our plastic food.

02:04:22.620 Yep.

02:04:23.080 It's unbelievable.

02:04:24.420 And yet, we are no closer to the answers that we desire.

02:04:29.720 Georgia looks like it's going to head for runoff. 1.00

02:04:32.020 If I have to predict things right now, Georgia looks like it's headed that way right now.

02:04:34.940 Herschel Walker's in a very, very narrow lead over Raphael Warnock.

02:04:38.740 He's at 49.4, and Raphael Warnock's at 48.7.

02:04:42.860 But, you know, again, that Libertarian Party candidate, those Libertarians, man, you can't trust them.

02:04:46.960 Yeah.

02:04:47.140 1.9% from the Libertarian Party drawing away from Herschel Walker.

02:04:50.880 That would have put him over the top.

02:04:51.820 So, instead, we'll get yet another runoff, which is just riveting, exciting stuff.

02:04:56.520 There's nothing I love better than a good Georgia runoff.

02:04:58.460 They work out amazingly well for all of us.

02:05:00.740 Meanwhile, the results have started to come in from Arizona, where all the voting machines are beautifully run.

02:05:05.880 And Mark Kelly is right now up against Blake Masters, 56-41, but that's with 38% reporting, so those numbers mean nothing.

02:05:13.960 Obviously, the urban areas tend to bring in the numbers first.

02:05:17.440 Meanwhile, over in Pennsylvania, we're starting to see some numbers with 49% reporting.

02:05:21.560 John Fetterman is up 51-47 over Mehmet Oz.

02:05:25.380 Again, the mail-in ballots have not been counted, so you'd imagine the numbers are a little bit better for Fetterman than that at this early stage.

02:05:31.780 Again, there's a bit of a blue mirage that happens at the beginning of the night when all of the early towns get counted, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Allentown.

02:05:39.020 And then it's a little bit later in the evening when some of the rural areas come in.

02:05:43.160 So, you know, right now, if you're ballparking this thing, it's not looking, like, amazing for Republicans in the Senate.

02:05:48.800 In the House, it's looking a little bit better.

02:05:51.840 They already called Colorado for the Democrat.

02:05:53.340 So that race, which at one point was considered maybe a plausible win for the Republicans, with Michael Bennett running against, what's his name, O'Brien, that race has been called, like, right off the bat.

02:06:04.380 So that is where things stand.

02:06:07.240 There's also news out of Arizona.

02:06:09.600 Rachel Maddow, my doppelganger, is reporting, and just to let you know that it's not only Republicans who are claiming voter fraud and shenanigans,

02:06:18.440 Rachel Maddow is reporting that Arizona Republicans are intimidating Democrat voters with guns.

02:06:26.360 I assume this is, you know, these are white supremacist Nigerians in MAGA hats, you know, taking subway sandwiches from every Democrat voter in Arizona. 1.00

02:06:35.540 But she is on air reporting that right now.

02:06:38.120 It does look like there has been one reversal.

02:06:39.640 I suggested earlier that the networks were calling Virginia second for the Democrat.

02:06:43.260 They've now reversed that.

02:06:44.940 The Republican State Senator Jen Kiggins will defeat Elaine Luria in Virginia's second congressional district.

02:06:50.100 That's what I thought was, yeah.

02:06:51.060 That's good news.

02:06:51.860 That is good news.

02:06:52.600 That's a race that I thought was gone.

02:06:54.520 Here's my sheet of paper with all the margins on it right now.

02:06:57.520 That district, the Luria district, was a Biden plus five.

02:07:00.960 Wow.

02:07:01.220 It was a D plus six.

02:07:02.680 So, again, looks like a red tide, not a red wave, is kind of how I would describe it.

02:07:06.780 I'll take it.

02:07:07.480 If Oz...

02:07:08.380 I'd call it, what'd you call it, Crimson Tide?

02:07:10.400 If Oz actually loses, if he loses to a guy with brain damage, we talk about accountability.

02:07:14.520 There has to be accountability for the Republicans that got behind Oz in the primary.

02:07:18.500 Like, you're going to actually lose to a guy that can't even speak.

02:07:21.000 But unfortunately, the Republican most notably who got behind Oz in the primary is Donald Trump.

02:07:28.340 And as far as I can tell, he did it exclusively on the basis that Dr. Oz was also on TV.

02:07:34.460 Yeah.

02:07:34.620 You know what, listen, I think Oz is...

02:07:38.820 I'm going to keep my mouth open for the jelly bean.

02:07:41.440 Listen, I think Oz is a terrible candidate.

02:07:43.740 I am infuriated by him. 0.99

02:07:45.820 It's just, he's just awful.

02:07:47.880 But David McCormick, who I think was probably better, but he was fairly squishy on a lot of issues.

02:07:54.140 Kathy Barnett was the conservative in that primary.

02:07:56.680 There was a broad consensus.

02:07:57.940 Again, I thought she was great, but there was a broad consensus she wouldn't be strong in a general.

02:08:01.700 So a lot of people in the party came out against her.

02:08:03.880 But you had, like, Sean Hannity telling people that they essentially didn't have a place in the party if they didn't support her.

02:08:11.680 Yes, no, look, I thought the Oz shilling was disgusting, and I don't like Oz, really, at all.

02:08:17.060 But the point that you make, Matt, which is that can you believe this guy with brain damage is going to beat Oz?

02:08:23.360 Because I think if the situation were reversed, and I'm up against, let's say the Democrat had this fully functioning brain, such as Democrats have,

02:08:31.020 but, you know, was advocating for, you know, abortion on demand and transing the kids and destroy the economy and open borders and all the rest of it, 0.84

02:08:37.420 and then you had a Republican who had suffered a stroke, I would gleefully vote for the Republican,

02:08:41.880 knowing that his wife would actually take the seat or they'd just appoint some new guy to take it, or just knowing that his staff would run it.

02:08:47.920 So I get why Democrats would do it, because the power of a senator is not what it was 100 years ago.

02:08:53.460 You know, 100 years ago, senators had many more responsibilities.

02:08:56.860 A lot of that has been outsourced to the bureaucracy.

02:08:59.100 Fetterman was always running to be just a rubber stamp for Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden anyway.

02:09:02.580 So I'm not terribly surprised.

02:09:04.620 I mean, I think yellow dog Democrats are the people who would vote for a yellow dog over any Republican. 0.53

02:09:09.220 The same way I feel about Herschel Walker, you know.

02:09:10.700 I feel like, do you want to vote for the guy whose girlfriends have had an abortion,

02:09:14.720 or for the guy who will actually make abortion legal until the kid is two years old?

02:09:18.540 I agree with you, but just the fact, I mean, you're a doctor running against a guy with brain damage.

02:09:22.220 How do you not leverage that in an effective way?

02:09:25.420 Well, he tried.

02:09:26.000 He actually, his campaign went after Fetterman on the brain damage issue,

02:09:31.180 and it read kind of ugly, I think.

02:09:33.360 Well, no, it's what I'm saying, but I think they went after him in the wrong way.

02:09:36.560 Like, Oz, especially in the debate, I thought that was a missed opportunity for him.

02:09:41.700 He should have been, like, showing concern, like pity for him.

02:09:44.980 Yeah, yeah.

02:09:45.660 I really feel sorry for this guy, and, you know, as a doctor, I feel sorry.

02:09:49.600 I think that would have been a better approach, and it would have made him look...

02:09:52.340 Again, the health issue was always going to be secondary.

02:09:55.360 In fact, I think there's a world, if it turns out that the Pennsylvania sentencing goes to Fetterman,

02:10:00.180 and there's a world where the health issue actually took away from the main line of the campaign,

02:10:05.060 meaning that what really should have happened in this campaign is that Fetterman's policy should have been an issue

02:10:09.280 because he is a terrible candidate.

02:10:12.020 I mean, if you look at his policy positions, this is a guy who has talked openly about cutting fracking in Pennsylvania.

02:10:16.520 This is a guy who is abortion on demand until point of birth.

02:10:19.620 He said his number one priority was freeing murderers from birth.

02:10:22.100 Right.

02:10:22.260 He was going to free one-third of all criminals in the state of Pennsylvania.

02:10:24.460 I mean, these are radical policies, but because, almost in the same way the Democrats got distracted by the shiny abortion object, 0.56

02:10:29.340 and they're like, let's throw a bajillion dollars at abortion while everybody's worried about inflation.

02:10:32.660 In Pennsylvania, it felt like, because it was the low-hanging fruit, not because it was so obvious,

02:10:36.340 and honestly, he felt bad for the guy.

02:10:37.580 Like, when I watched that debate, I felt bad for him because he literally, it was hard to watch.

02:10:41.800 I mean, it's like, what?

02:10:42.720 He's a person who was not fully functional trying in public to do this thing.

02:10:46.940 Everybody got distracted by the fact, this is crazy.

02:10:48.820 We could actually elect a senator who can't speak sentences, and they got distracted by the fact that senator who can't speak sentences is going to vote like Bernie Sanders,

02:10:54.840 and it seems like if you're talking about, like, what's more relevant to voters, maybe what's more relevant to voters,

02:10:59.060 because how often have you watched a senator speak?

02:11:00.980 Well, I think there's also a cynicism on the right that says, because Donald Trump won an unexpected victory in 2016,

02:11:10.780 we should only run famous people now. 0.98

02:11:13.120 Well, the cynicism of it is, the voters are so dumb, they'll vote for a celebrity. 0.95

02:11:19.620 But with Herschel Walker on the ropes tonight, with Dr. Oz on the ropes tonight, 0.98

02:11:24.220 hopefully it disabuses us of this particular cynicism.

02:11:27.840 But it's a longstanding issue.

02:11:29.080 I mean, you think of going back to Sonny Bono, I mean, going back to Jesse Ventura or Arnold Schwarzenegger,

02:11:34.400 all these, you know, celebrities run in politics. 0.95

02:11:37.940 Politics is show business for ugly people.

02:11:39.640 But I agree, I don't think it is, you can't just say the guy that had a big TV show, he'll be a shoe-in to the race.

02:11:45.060 It just doesn't happen.

02:11:46.420 It doesn't work that way.

02:11:47.700 So our friends over at ElectionWire are going to give us an update on some of the races that they've been following throughout the evening.

02:11:53.460 We're counting on them to be able to look at their computers while we all stare at each other

02:11:58.740 and make Steven Crowder jokes and try not to get canceled.

02:12:02.560 So they're tracking the races at a much more granular level, and they're here to give us an update now.

02:12:08.060 So we've got a few calls coming in from Decision Desk, which we're using this evening.

02:12:12.840 The Oklahoma governor's race we mentioned earlier that had seemed like a toss-up.

02:12:16.660 Republican Governor Kevin Stitt has just come out on top there.

02:12:19.580 Decision Desk Osco calling the Pennsylvania governor's race for Josh Shapiro.

02:12:23.900 In the Pennsylvania race right now, 53% in.

02:12:26.480 Fetterman is up 51.1 to 46.6.

02:12:29.340 And in that governor's race, Fetterman is trailing Josh Shapiro by about 5.5 points.

02:12:34.000 That's generally where he needs to be.

02:12:35.440 The betting market's also now overwhelmingly going for Fetterman after Oz was at about 70% earlier today.

02:12:41.340 There is good news for Republicans, though, in the state of North Carolina.

02:12:43.920 It was very tight earlier.

02:12:45.340 Ted Budd is now pulling ahead of Sherry Beasley, 51.1 to 46.9, with about 90% in right now.

02:12:51.020 And in Ohio, J.D. Vance is up 54 to 46 on Tim Ryan with 75% in.

02:12:56.780 Starting to get early results out of Wisconsin, 50% in.

02:12:59.200 Mandela Barnes up 50.5 over Ron Johnson, the incumbent, 49.5.

02:13:04.060 We're still expecting that to tighten as more results come in.

02:13:06.480 And then in Michigan, 23% in.

02:13:08.220 Gretchen Whitmer is up 51.3 on Tudor Dixon, 47.1.

02:13:12.140 So, again, kind of a mixed bag.

02:13:13.600 That's what we've been seeing all evening.

02:13:15.080 But we're expecting a lot of these races to continue to be tight as more results come in in these more Republican-leaning districts.

02:13:22.180 Cabot Phillips, thank you.

02:13:23.540 And we're being joined now from the Manhattan Institute, I think one of the most important journalists in the country today, our good friend Chris Ruffa.

02:13:29.520 Chris, what are you seeing from your vantage?

02:13:35.460 What's happening out there?

02:13:37.060 Look, I think this is undoubtedly a big night for the governor of Florida, Ron DeSantis.

02:13:42.080 I think his brand of muscular culture war politics has shown that it is nationally resonant.

02:13:48.800 He's outperforming all of his peers.

02:13:50.780 He's flipped Latinos. 0.99

02:13:52.080 He's flipped urban districts.

02:13:53.200 I think he's really riding high tonight, pioneering a new model of conservative politics.

02:13:58.480 And then I think, on the other hand, someone like Dr. Oz, as you guys were saying, is running a lackluster campaign.

02:14:03.500 He didn't draw contrast.

02:14:04.960 He didn't have any crisp policy positions.

02:14:07.260 He didn't take any risks.

02:14:09.040 And I think that that's really what it comes down to.

02:14:10.900 People want to know that you're a politician willing to stand on principle, to stand on issues, to draw strong contrast.

02:14:16.860 And Dr. Oz, I think, played the role on television of being the doctor that everyone liked.

02:14:22.700 But in politics, you have to accept that half of the country will not like you.

02:14:27.100 And there's nobody that leans into that more effectively than Ron DeSantis.

02:14:31.320 Yeah, it turns out that the quality of the candidate actually matters in these races.

02:14:38.100 And you can't be cynical, is what we were just talking about beforehand.

02:14:41.040 You can't be cynical as a party going into these races about who can win.

02:14:45.180 That cynicism can play out in multiple ways.

02:14:47.220 There's a kind of establishment cynicism that maybe you experience some degree of with a Dr. Oz.

02:14:52.500 Because, I think, that you experienced with Mitt Romney in the 2016, I'm sorry, Jeb Bush in the 2016 primaries, or Mitt Romney even in the 2012 election.

02:15:01.760 Or McCain.

02:15:02.460 Or McCain.

02:15:03.100 But there's a populist version of the cynicism, too, where even as far back as the Tea Party, the grassroots would put up candidates, I think, who were very low-quality candidates, but who kind of had this sort of red meat appeal.

02:15:15.940 It turns out in politics, some vetting actually has to happen.

02:15:18.680 It's not just about people who you sort of constitutionally resonate with.

02:15:21.820 You have to find people who are actually going to be able to go through the rigor of it.

02:15:24.680 I mean, you said that politics, Michael, is showbiz for ugly people. 0.97

02:15:28.080 Showbiz for ugly people. 0.95

02:15:29.120 And that gives me some hope that I might one day ascend in public office.

02:15:33.140 But the one thing that I've certainly observed in my time dealing with politics is that the kind of person who can endure the rigors of a campaign and actually thrive in it.

02:15:43.680 I mean, this is not a quality that the average person has.

02:15:46.380 I know for a fact that I do not have it.

02:15:49.280 And, you know, these races are grueling.

02:15:52.240 They put these people, they put their families.

02:15:53.980 I mean, Ben made the point that he's actually sad seeing Fetterman up there.

02:15:59.020 I feel that way every time I see the president of the United States.

02:16:01.120 I have an actual sadness, an actual pity that we're abusing this human in the way that we are.

02:16:09.140 And you can say, ah, he earns it.

02:16:10.660 Oh, he's been a bad guy.

02:16:11.560 I'm not trying to make it offensive to Joe Biden.

02:16:15.600 I'm saying that it's an ugly thing that we've done.

02:16:18.360 It's an incredibly hard job.

02:16:19.980 And I think that the party did not have the discipline that it needed, sort of at the establishment or grassroots level.

02:16:27.180 It was kind of interesting, too, with an Oz candidate, because Trump has been pretty good at picking candidates, and he's changed the Republican Party, and there's this new thing.

02:16:37.500 And you look at a J.D. Vance, he's obviously moving the party in a new direction.

02:16:40.980 But then Oz, as you point out, Chris, Oz was just this old, I mean, the guy was...

02:16:46.520 Oz was on TV.

02:16:47.280 Oz was on TV, but Oz was, you know, he'd go on radio lambasting pro-lifers, and then he goes out, he says, I'm going to vote to redefine marriage in the Senate.

02:16:54.780 And you just think, and all I'm going to do is cut your taxes.

02:16:57.220 By the way, one common thread with low-quality candidates, I'm thinking of Christine O'Donnell in Delaware during the Tea Party wave, they have really bad ads. 0.96

02:17:07.140 Their media is really bad, and Oz had terrible ads, and Christine O'Donnell had terrible ads, and that poor woman in California, who I like personally, but she was not a great candidate, forget her name now, she had terrible ads.

02:17:18.480 There's just this odd thing that the people who are peddling this kind of old, dated politics, that is reflected in their media.

02:17:29.240 And you saw it instantly with Oz.

02:17:30.740 You think, the TV guys should have good TV ads, but they just didn't connect at all.

02:17:34.300 And I think, by contrast, Fetterman had a really strong communications plan, a strong campaign.

02:17:40.980 He had people dressing up as vegetables, making fun of Dr. Oz for the crudité.

02:17:45.860 He had a lighthearted campaign, a fun campaign that felt frivolous at times, but also felt like it was something that was on the moment, made Dr. Oz feel a little bit dated.

02:17:56.820 Dr. Oz felt like daytime television in 1995, whereas Fetterman was able to create this buffer zone around him.

02:18:03.620 You have a candidate that can't even fulfill a full sentence, and yet his comms people, I think, were pretty successful.

02:18:09.940 And I think that the digital strategy has to get smarter for all these campaigns.

02:18:14.960 And I think that, again, DeSantis and other candidates in that vein are showing that actual risk-taking is rewarded in the ballot box, provided that you do it in a sophisticated and disciplined way.

02:18:26.220 Yeah. What are the stakes?

02:18:28.200 I'd like to hear your thoughts before we go.

02:18:29.780 I mean, obviously, it seems—I shouldn't say obviously, but it seems that the Republicans are at least going to take the House.

02:18:35.540 That's going to do something to blunt President Biden's agenda.

02:18:38.960 But really, what are the stakes?

02:18:41.100 What's the difference?

02:18:41.760 If we get that majority in the Senate, if we get more than a simple majority in the Senate, what matters tonight and what doesn't?

02:18:48.360 I think ultimately what matters is what policies start to get formulated, policies start to get developed, and policy programs start to get mapped out for the future.

02:18:58.500 And then I think down ballot, it's really important.

02:19:00.760 All of the actual reforms that are going to affect people in their day-to-day lives are happening in state legislatures.

02:19:06.820 And so I think what we saw with critical race theory, this blitz through the legislative bodies in 22 states, we're going to see again in Republican-led state legislatures.

02:19:17.640 And so I think people have to focus their fire locally to get things done.

02:19:22.040 And in D.C., it's about who's going to rise to the top, who's going to take control of the Republican apparatus, and what kind of policy items from people like J.D. Vance, the younger generation, that is more comfortable with this kind of combative culture war politics, are they going to actually translate those political victories into substantive policy proposals?

02:19:41.820 All right, Chris.

02:19:42.680 Well, we appreciate you.

02:19:43.520 Appreciate the good work that you're doing out there on so many important issues, most notably CRT and the transing of our kids.

02:19:49.000 I mean, you're just really helping to lead the fight.

02:19:51.760 And I say that even though Matt Walsh is sitting right here.

02:19:54.160 Thank you for having us tonight.

02:19:55.920 How dare you.

02:19:56.640 Good to see you.

02:19:57.900 See you.

02:19:58.660 And we're joined now by the president of the Judicial Crisis Network, Carrie Severino.

02:20:03.360 Thanks for being with us.

02:20:04.140 Great to be here.

02:20:04.980 So what happens?

02:20:06.560 We get the Senate.

02:20:07.380 How are we able to block the president on judicial appointments?

02:20:10.300 What power will we have if we win that we won't have if we lose?

02:20:13.300 Yeah.

02:20:13.740 Well, remember, the last time that the Senate and the White House splitting made such a huge difference was in 2016.

02:20:20.500 When you have the Senate and the White House of a different party, that's really the American people tapping the brakes on what's going on with the presidency.

02:20:27.440 Right now, even with the barest majority possible, which is 50 votes, not even a majority, with the tiebreaker, basically the Senate's been putting anyone that the president wants to get across, the board, across.

02:20:40.320 He has Donald Trump made records putting judges on.

02:20:43.580 Biden has broken those records.

02:20:45.220 So there has been no moderating effect of having any kind of middle ground on this 50 votes because, unfortunately, while Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema stand up every once in a while, they don't stand up on judges and they voted for every single judge.

02:20:58.760 So there will be a huge change because, first of all, there will be a chance that maybe there's actually some of the more radical judges you could actually defeat.

02:21:06.960 But there's also a lot of control of the pace that the Senate majority leader will have and control of the committee process.

02:21:15.360 So there will be an opportunity to really highlight in committee some of the outrageous and radical judges that Biden is putting up.

02:21:22.560 Yeah. The courts are the one thing that we still have, right?

02:21:26.120 I mean, since 2020, almost the only places we've been able to block Biden's agenda have been at the Supreme Court level.

02:21:32.760 If we're able to blunt his ability to appoint future judges, does that set us up in future elections to be able to do more beyond just the Supreme Court?

02:21:42.860 I mean, do we have do we have advantages earlier in that process to put a stop to some of the I mean, you know, if he loses the House, he loses the Senate.

02:21:49.920 He's going to start using executive orders in a way that, you know, we've probably never seen before the frequency of executive orders.

02:21:57.080 The courts are really the only bulwark against that, aren't they?

02:21:59.600 Yeah. I mean, I think this shows the wisdom of the last administration putting a priority on that because all of his executive orders are just out the window immediately.

02:22:08.080 You know, the legislature has shifted. They're doing everything they can to undo stuff as fast as possible.

02:22:12.520 So it's the courts are really the backstop. And particularly when Biden feels backed into a corner and just has to do the pen and phone thing that Obama, you know, so popularized the courts.

02:22:23.740 This is why administrative law, which sounds so boring, has suddenly become really important at the Supreme Court, because it's these administrative agencies and these bureaucrats that that the president is going to be deploying to just, well, we can't get this passed in Congress.

02:22:36.060 We'll just declare an emergency and do it do it some other way. Right. Or you're stretch.

02:22:40.200 We'll find a statute that was passed 60 years ago and decide that it means that we can, you know, delay evictions or something.

02:22:45.920 You know, they find all these different things. That's what the courts are here to do is to keep those separations of powers in place.

02:22:52.540 And I think, you know, thank God we have the Supreme Court that we do and the appellate courts as well.

02:22:58.240 So the fewer of the Biden appointees that are going to be the rubber stance for his his agenda we can have on those courts, the better chance we have of keeping those courts.

02:23:08.180 You know, one big hobby horse of the conservatives over the last 10 years or so has has been on this point of administrative law on Chevron deference, specifically this idea that the courts just defer to the administrative agencies to interpret their own regulations.

02:23:21.100 Now, conservatives actually, including Scalia, used to be pro-deferring to the administrative state.

02:23:28.500 Then in recent years, they've shifted very much against the administrative state and made this big move against Chevron to overrule Chevron deference.

02:23:35.920 Now we've got a 6-3 technically, but really 5-4 conservative court.

02:23:41.520 So, OK, if this is such a big issue, is the court going to overrule Chevron?

02:23:45.300 I think more likely what you're going to see is they just start not applying it in as many cases.

02:23:51.460 So Chevron is the case that says the agency interprets the law.

02:23:54.980 The law is actually passed by Congress.

02:23:56.540 The agency is interpreting the law, sometimes in creative ways, right?

02:23:59.940 And the courts, I think Scalia's idea is the courts are crazy.

02:24:03.660 We don't want the judges doing this.

02:24:05.260 It would be better to just defer to the executive agency.

02:24:07.700 So I think he was trying to get the activism out of it.

02:24:11.020 But, of course, we know that our agency bureaucrats can be every bit as activist as judges, maybe more so.

02:24:17.720 So everything we've realized out of the prying pan and into the fire on that.

02:24:20.760 I think what you're going to see is the courts just deciding maybe we're not going to use this framework that we have to defer to agencies.

02:24:28.300 There's a lot of questions that have been raised constitutionally about how could that even be legal?

02:24:32.420 How could that be constitutional to let them decide what the law is?

02:24:35.400 So whether they go full overruling it or whether they just decide we're going to stop really applying it,

02:24:41.900 I think you're going to see Chevron not playing a big role in the way the court's looking at it.

02:24:47.420 Do you think, I mean, we've talked about this a little bit tonight, but with the Dobbs decision,

02:24:52.240 with the overturning of Roe, with the Democrats going all in on abortion,

02:24:57.740 a new focus on the courts, protests, still to this day, protests outside of the Republican-appointed jurists on the court,

02:25:05.400 how is the role of the court changing in American life right now?

02:25:10.340 And from a political point of view, it seems to me that the Democrats are demonstrating tonight

02:25:16.840 that turning court losses into political gain isn't as easy as it looked

02:25:22.660 when the Republicans were doing it after Roe for 40 years.

02:25:25.900 Exactly.

02:25:26.340 Well, I think at the end of the day, what the American people really want to see is judges that are actually bound by the law.

02:25:31.220 So for a long time, we had a court that was just willing to do whatever the Democrats wanted.

02:25:35.940 And what you're seeing now is a temper tantrum because they finally lost control of that.

02:25:40.120 They're like, wait, wait, we can't just go to the court and ask for something and they give us, you know,

02:25:44.460 Ronald Reagan said, go back, get a half loaf, go back for the other half.

02:25:46.900 They would just go to the courts for the other half and the other half, the court would give them the other half

02:25:50.600 and then some salami and some mustard to go with it.

02:25:53.180 But now the court's finally saying, actually, you know, you're getting what you had.

02:25:57.360 And I think that's part of the reason they're not able to turn it into the victories is because how can you get upset

02:26:03.100 about the court just doing what the Constitution says?

02:26:05.760 I think that's returning it to the American people. 0.62

02:26:07.700 So even if, you know, whether you want a lot of protection for fetal life,

02:26:11.200 whether you want abortion to be legal all nine months, now it's in the American people's camp

02:26:16.660 and they can make those calls and they're going to make a lot of different calls across the country.

02:26:22.300 But we are still seeing that temper tantrum in terms of the intimidation, you know, people on their lawns,

02:26:28.180 you know, politicians threatening to pack the court, all that kind of thing,

02:26:31.840 hoping that, well, even if we don't have the justice to the court, maybe we can try to strong arm them.

02:26:36.460 Maybe we can try to threaten and bully them into ruling our way.

02:26:39.460 So let's say we get 51 at least.

02:26:42.100 Hopefully we get 52 senators, 53, but maybe that won't happen.

02:26:44.820 Let's say we get 51.

02:26:46.300 Okay, now if a Supreme Court justice dies or retires, now Biden's got some new nominee.

02:26:53.680 Can the Republicans and will the Republicans in the Senate hold out, pull a cocaine Mitch,

02:26:59.940 say we are not going to confirm a justice until the next presidential election?

02:27:04.260 Well, he did it once, right?

02:27:06.060 He did it once.

02:27:06.220 This is why we have Justice Gorsuch.

02:27:09.180 It's probably why we had Donald Trump as president was because Leader McConnell made that call and said,

02:27:14.200 hey, we're going to all stay together.

02:27:15.760 And in their defense, the other Republicans stuck with him.

02:27:20.040 I think, you know, obviously it depends on the specific politics of what happens when.

02:27:25.500 But I don't think any Republican senator should vote for a nominee to the court that's not going to be willing to interpret the Constitution as it's written.

02:27:34.100 They take an oath to uphold the Constitution, too, right?

02:27:36.060 So if you're voting for someone who thinks the Constitution means whatever they felt like after, you know, in the morning,

02:27:41.400 that is not upholding your oath to the Constitution.

02:27:43.660 So I would hope that regardless of, you know, I hope Biden doesn't get any more vacancies.

02:27:48.360 Whenever it is, I would hope that they wouldn't be willing to vote for someone.

02:27:51.360 You know, there's a dirty little secret here, too, that you're not allowed to talk about.

02:27:54.760 But it's late, and we've been talking nonstop for four hours, and we're all getting a little loopy.

02:28:01.100 The Democrats' recent appointments to the Supreme Court are humiliating to the court.

02:28:06.280 I mean, Elena Keegan is a legal mind.

02:28:09.520 Yeah, it's a pretty serious resume.

02:28:11.300 I disagree with a lot of her ideas.

02:28:13.420 But she is a legitimate jurist on the court.

02:28:15.680 You can't say the same for Sonia Sotomayor.

02:28:17.480 You can't say...

02:28:19.280 Oh, my goodness.

02:28:20.480 Ketanji.

02:28:20.840 Ketanji.

02:28:21.160 Thank you.

02:28:21.460 If you can't define what a woman is, I don't mean to disparage.

02:28:25.780 The Democrats are essentially at this point putting partisan political actors on the court and not actual legal minds.

02:28:32.820 I mean, what impact is that going to have over time?

02:28:35.520 If the court is only an extension of a sort of what we might think of as like party rule, political party rule,

02:28:43.960 doesn't that weaken the very intentions or weaken the court and change the role that the court plays in our society?

02:28:52.800 Well, I think Biden already, we're seeing the consequences of the fact that when he had an option,

02:28:58.020 he had several, even within his must-appointed black woman, he had a lot of different options.

02:29:02.020 He chose the most radical option he had.

02:29:05.240 And I actually think in the long run that's not going to be helpful to him.

02:29:08.140 And we've seen her so far on the bench.

02:29:10.320 She's much more along the lines of a Sotomayor. 0.80

02:29:12.620 She's just trying to get in these rhetorical points, not making the kinds of questions and arguments that might be appealing to peel off a swing vote. 1.00

02:29:23.100 Great.

02:29:23.700 That's great in my camp, right?

02:29:25.180 She's not—Lena Kagan is doing stuff like that. 0.88

02:29:28.460 By trying to go with the most radical nominees you can find, you know, sometimes that isn't a strategy if it's not someone who can make a compelling argument.

02:29:36.440 What I think was so great about Trump's nominees, I really do think they're people who can make very compelling arguments.

02:29:42.200 And, you know, some justices are immune to rational discussion, but you're someone who can move intellectually the ball forward is what you really should be looking for.

02:29:51.960 What effect do you think there will be in the fact that the Supreme Court decision leaked, we've just moved past that, there's been no accountability whatsoever?

02:30:00.740 Like, what does that mean for the future?

02:30:02.420 It seems like we're never going to find out who did it.

02:30:05.280 There's never going to be any kind of punishment whatsoever, so.

02:30:08.620 Yeah, I mean, I think that is the worst thing that could have happened after that, right?

02:30:11.380 If they had a very short window where everyone was under the same roof, and if they didn't find the person then, they're not going to find them.

02:30:16.880 I think this is horrible for the institution because no one knows who they can trust.

02:30:20.580 And time will tell whether we have more leaks.

02:30:23.240 It used to be that was the one institution in D.C. that did not leak.

02:30:26.180 And you knew everyone was going to be professional and it was on both sides of the aisle.

02:30:30.460 That's not the case anymore, and I think it sends a horrible message.

02:30:33.640 You know, as someone who's raised several kids myself, you don't, if you reward bad behavior, you're just going to get more bad behavior.

02:30:40.340 Do you have a sense, though, Carrie, that because there's, you know, gossip all around D.C., I think I not only know who did it, but I think I actually know the person who did it.

02:30:51.900 But, listen, there's all gossip, I'm not going to say the name, you know, but there's a lot of scuttlebutt and all.

02:30:57.260 Do you think it is the case that the people at the court actually do have a strong hunch of who it is and, for whatever reason, Chief Justice Roberts doesn't want to get involved in all of this?

02:31:09.240 Or do you think legitimately they just don't know at the court and so anyone, you know, to the right or left of you could have been the leaker?

02:31:14.900 Well, you know, my, when I was clerking at the court, one of the big messages I got from the Chief Justice that he gave to all the clerks was,

02:31:21.140 under no circumstances should you ever violate any confidences or you will be dead to us all.

02:31:26.260 So it was really shocking to me that he didn't do more to find the person.

02:31:31.260 If he knows who it is, then the only reason I can think of they wouldn't be, you know, disclosing it is it's another justice or it's someone in his chambers that's going to be really embarrassing.

02:31:41.300 I don't know.

02:31:41.560 But do you think if it were a clerk in another, then you think he wouldn't do that?

02:31:45.660 I don't know.

02:31:46.060 I think if the other justices had a sense, I think it would be hard for them to sit by and let this person just, I mean, look, that clerk is probably out somewhere getting their student loans forgiven, you know,

02:31:56.200 while collecting a $400,000 bonus for starting at a law firm somewhere.

02:32:02.240 I mean, that's outrageous.

02:32:02.920 Do you think it's a new norm?

02:32:03.780 Is this a new norm now?

02:32:05.140 I think that's what we're going to find out.

02:32:06.680 You know, is it the new norm?

02:32:07.520 I hope it's not because that's a huge blow for the court as an institution to not be able to.

02:32:14.900 I mean, even think about Bush versus Gore, very contentious here.

02:32:18.400 I heard that there were like fistfights breaking out and someone got pushed in one of the fountains during a clerk happy hour.

02:32:23.300 Like it was very contentious.

02:32:24.720 There were not leaks, let alone a leak of an entire opinion.

02:32:28.660 The justices weren't even like having very good conversations together for a long time after that, it seems like.

02:32:33.980 So it's just shocking to me, obviously it's a really important decision, but that it would result in that kind of a leak and then, you know, assassination attempts, all of this stuff.

02:32:43.540 It's just a huge step backwards for what used to be one of the few institutions people could trust.

02:32:48.820 I wonder, you know, one of the themes of the night is election denialism, you know, and of course the Democrats have been denying elections for a very long time.

02:32:57.080 It's really starting in earnest in 2000 and Republicans have lots of questions about 2020, I think for good reason.

02:33:03.100 And so it's both sides just, you know, for their own reasons, don't really trust the elections.

02:33:08.180 And then the court was this one institution that was supposed to be kind of above this sort of petty squabbling.

02:33:14.380 And then that seems from my vantage to be collapsing as well.

02:33:19.080 So is that real or is it just this is the way it always was, you know, stop catastrophizing,

02:33:24.280 nostalgia's history after a few drinks or are things really getting quite bad?

02:33:28.280 You know, I think it ebbs and flows.

02:33:31.140 There have definitely been times when the court had horrible, you know, internal things.

02:33:36.580 You know, one justice wouldn't sit with another justice because he's Jewish, all these different things like that. 0.86

02:33:39.900 I mean, really, really intense personal disputes.

02:33:43.420 So I don't want to say this is the worst it's ever been by a long shot.

02:33:47.260 It does seem, you know, that relationships are not as close as they were, you know, during the 90s and early, early 2000s.

02:33:57.260 But, you know, I think this is not helping with the league and things.

02:34:01.900 I think it was an important point we skipped over.

02:34:04.740 There was a fist fight and someone got pushed into a fountain?

02:34:07.340 This is lore.

02:34:09.160 You know, there's a weekly clerk happy hour.

02:34:11.240 And the clerks all, you know, you get along with each other.

02:34:13.080 You're coming from different perspectives.

02:34:14.440 I heard someone got pushed into the fountain during one of these.

02:34:16.840 I wasn't there to see it.

02:34:19.120 It wasn't an actual justice, was it?

02:34:20.340 Not, oh, no, not a justice.

02:34:21.600 We're talking clerks.

02:34:22.480 Not quite the caning of Sumner.

02:34:24.600 You could really hurt someone.

02:34:25.800 These justices are not young.

02:34:26.980 It's kind of ironic that John Roberts is supposed to be the great defender of the court's reputation.

02:34:31.360 The court's reputation is spiraling downward at the same time.

02:34:34.480 I wonder if it gives him any second thoughts.

02:34:36.320 You know, it's kind of like the parent trying to be the cool parent by, like, buying the kids beer or something.

02:34:42.020 That's not actually how you gain their respect.

02:34:43.540 You might gain some popularity points over a very short term.

02:34:46.420 But over the long term, they don't really respect you.

02:34:48.920 Over the long term, they want to know the difference between a tax and a penalty.

02:34:54.440 Like, do we really trust that you're going to decide something based on the law or you're just kind of finger to the wind?

02:34:58.400 What's going to get the best poll results?

02:35:02.360 That's not going to get, maybe in the short term it does.

02:35:04.620 In the long term, I think we're seeing the court's integrity tanking.

02:35:07.880 And that's because it looks like they look at politicians.

02:35:10.680 Terry, thank you so much for coming on and talking to us tonight.

02:35:12.660 Have a great night.

02:35:13.300 Really appreciate it.

02:35:15.060 And we haven't shown off in a little bit.

02:35:16.960 Too long.

02:35:17.440 So while they bring in a chair and get Ben Shapiro back on the set, we're going to show you some more of what's going on over at Daily Wire Plus.

02:35:23.160 What is a woman? 1.00

02:35:29.360 Can you tell me that?

02:35:33.500 Well, you're at the Women's March.

02:35:34.520 You must have some idea.

02:35:35.340 Please, if one person could tell me what a woman is. 0.99

02:35:37.580 You are not here for women. 1.00

02:35:39.280 We ask you to leave.

02:35:40.660 What is that?

02:35:43.420 I'm a husband.

02:35:44.300 I'm a father for, I host a talk show.

02:35:46.660 I give speeches.

02:35:47.640 I write books.

02:35:48.740 I like to make sense of things.

02:35:50.000 A woman is not anything in particular. 0.90

02:35:52.000 There is not one particular thing.

02:35:53.700 It could be many things to many people. 0.99

02:35:55.640 Some women have penises, right? 1.00

02:35:57.220 Some men have vaginas. 1.00

02:35:58.500 I like scented candles. 1.00

02:35:59.640 I've watched Sex and the City.

02:36:00.860 Yeah.

02:36:01.300 How do I know if I'm a woman?

02:36:02.840 That's a great question.

02:36:03.940 You're not a scientist.

02:36:05.000 You're not a gender studies major. 1.00

02:36:06.260 No.

02:36:06.700 How do you know that you're a man? 1.00

02:36:08.380 I guess because I got a dick. 1.00

02:36:14.200 Can a man become a woman? 1.00

02:36:16.420 I'm not a woman, so I can't really answer that.

02:36:21.520 Women only know what women are. 1.00

02:36:23.240 Are you a cat?

02:36:24.600 No.

02:36:25.260 Can you tell me what a cat is?

02:36:28.260 Do you want to tell us what a woman is? 1.00

02:36:31.720 I'm a biological woman that medically transitioned to appear like a male.

02:36:37.180 I will never be a man.

02:36:39.980 And so they go on the internet and they're told that all their problems will be solved if they become a man.

02:36:44.800 So you worry that there could be a sort of social contagion element of this?

02:36:49.180 A teeny tiny bit, maybe.

02:36:51.020 It got me at 42.

02:36:53.080 Your child doesn't have a chance.

02:36:57.500 And you're affirming it with hormones that have never been used in this way.

02:37:03.120 Puberty blockers, which are completely reversible.

02:37:06.160 Completely reversible.

02:37:07.400 One of the drugs used is Lupron, right?

02:37:09.160 Which has actually been used to chemically fast rate sex events.

02:37:12.400 You know what? I'm not sure that we should continue with this interview.

02:37:16.340 You don't want to talk about the drugs that you give to kids?

02:37:19.960 How can they be removing the healthy breasts of 15-year-old girls? 0.87

02:37:23.820 There are masculine girls. There are feminine boys. 0.70

02:37:26.760 What are we going to do about that? Carve them up?

02:37:28.920 How can this whole thing be happening, Matt?

02:37:30.780 I wanted us to have a safe place to be able to talk about this.

02:37:36.400 Part of me wants to ask why you care so much.

02:37:38.520 I care about the truth.

02:37:39.580 I care about children.

02:37:40.880 I care about the women who are having their opportunities stolen from them. 1.00

02:37:43.940 Is it transphobic to tell the truth?

02:37:46.680 The interview's over.

02:37:47.640 Let's turn off the cameras.

02:37:48.480 Excuse me.

02:37:49.100 I just wanted to know, what is a woman? 1.00

02:37:50.920 And you're not going to find out.

02:37:52.160 Based on what I'm saying, would you ever want to move to America?

02:37:54.880 They say no.

02:37:56.740 Never.

02:37:57.100 Never.

02:37:57.160 Never.

02:37:57.260 Never.

02:37:57.360 Never.

02:38:00.780 I hope you enjoyed it a little bit.

02:38:10.660 We'll see when it comes out.

02:38:30.780 You know who I am.

02:38:33.540 Huh?

02:38:34.100 And I have no doubt that God will forgive you.

02:38:37.900 But I hate God.

02:38:48.240 Are we going to make it out here?

02:38:50.300 I know it's been hard.

02:38:52.400 This is our dream, Hattie.

02:38:54.120 Build a home on land we can call our own.

02:38:56.980 Just got to have a little grit.

02:38:58.060 I'm heading to town, grabbing supplies.

02:39:07.920 Look after your mom gone, won't you?

02:39:15.620 Mighty fine morning to you, ma'am.

02:39:17.760 And to you.

02:39:18.320 Is your husband at home?

02:39:24.640 Get behind the stove with your sister. 1.00

02:39:27.040 They came looking for your pa.

02:39:28.440 That's why they're out there taking their time.

02:39:31.240 Just take where you want and go.

02:39:34.060 But what we want is you.

02:39:37.020 Your father's walking into a trap.

02:39:39.780 It's our turn to protect him.

02:39:43.740 She is a sensible woman.

02:39:45.980 Mrs. McAllister ain't cut out for this. 1.00

02:39:47.800 Deep down, you're the toughest woman in this territory.

02:39:54.980 Those killers outside, they're going to feel God's wrath. 1.00

02:40:03.400 Kill them all! 1.00

02:40:04.280 Hey, a couple of quick updates from the battleground Senate states. 0.99

02:40:25.880 We've got in Ohio, J.D. Vance is pulling ahead 53.8 over Democrat Tim Ryan, 46.2.

02:40:33.620 That's with 75% of the vote in.

02:40:35.580 That's a pretty good position for him.

02:40:37.520 He's about where he's been polling, about 5% above.

02:40:40.760 In the Senate race in North Carolina, Ted Budd is also in good position.

02:40:45.300 That's with 92% of the vote in.

02:40:47.360 He's at 51, Beasley, 47, again about where he's polling.

02:40:53.740 That seems like it's going to be called pretty soon.

02:40:56.800 John Fetterman in Pennsylvania is still leading.

02:40:59.740 Dr. Oz, that's a 49.8% to 47.9%.

02:41:05.080 That's with 90% of the vote in.

02:41:07.080 And again, there's a lot of early voting.

02:41:08.920 Usually favors Democrats.

02:41:11.140 Looks very good for Fetterman.

02:41:13.360 Josh Shapiro, the race has been called for him as the governor of Pennsylvania.

02:41:18.580 Decision desk called that.

02:41:19.980 And then finally in Georgia, Warnock is still slightly trailing Walker.

02:41:24.580 So Walker's in decent position, 1%.

02:41:27.040 But that's with 83%.

02:41:29.100 I just got that backwards.

02:41:30.640 Warnock's ahead, 1%.

02:41:32.120 Walker's down 1% now with 83% reporting.

02:41:36.260 Not looking great for Walker.

02:41:38.940 But again, one of them has to exceed 50%.

02:41:42.760 Will that happen?

02:41:44.780 Not certain.

02:41:46.060 But there are some Democratic-heavy counties that aren't fully in.

02:41:50.480 Something like 20% to 30% not reported.

02:41:53.120 That's not great for Walker.

02:41:54.760 That's it.

02:41:56.400 Back to you guys.

02:41:58.320 Thank you, John.

02:41:59.100 And joining us again.

02:42:00.940 Yeah, we're back.

02:42:02.120 Billy Whittle.

02:42:03.520 Hi.

02:42:04.440 Bill, not the blowout that we were expecting tonight

02:42:07.140 or that we had hoped for at any rate.

02:42:09.540 Do you still have hope that we're going to carry the Senate?

02:42:11.600 I do.

02:42:13.520 But part of me is walking around thinking the beatings will continue until morale improves, you know.

02:42:17.800 So if you get two out of three, there are some things that you can do on offense, you know, instead of just, like, stopping the train.

02:42:26.400 I always thought if we were able to get control of the Senate, I think what we ought to do is we ought to put together a number of bills that are constructed in such a way

02:42:37.660 that when Biden vetoes them, he basically tanks himself by doing so.

02:42:45.660 The Fair Play for Our Daughters Act, for example, of 2023, which basically says that, you know,

02:42:50.840 of the millions and millions and millions of young women that compete in athletics, 0.71

02:42:54.500 it's not fair that one or two people whose feelings are hurt are taking that away from our daughters.

02:42:59.000 We're empowering women and so on.

02:43:01.060 So fair play for our daughters. 0.57

02:43:02.400 Send it to them and have them veto it.

02:43:03.860 And you do the same thing for any of these things.

02:43:06.160 You put them together in such a way.

02:43:07.800 You're still telling the truth, not lying.

02:43:10.020 But what it seems to me that the only offense...

02:43:12.200 The problem is Republicans, if they even had the political sense to put that bill together,

02:43:15.760 would call it, like, the Title IX Restoration and Fair Improvement Act or something.

02:43:20.840 This is why we're in the trouble we're in, right?

02:43:22.800 Because our team does not, Evan Sayek called it rhetorical intelligence, and we're real low on that.

02:43:30.340 But somebody's got to get out there and start giving the Republican Party some ideas about how to actually win hearts.

02:43:38.100 You know, we've talked about this before.

02:43:39.800 I think that over the course of the last 30, 40 years, the Democrats have been so effective at using emotion to override reason

02:43:46.660 that now conservatives think that anything that has any emotion in it at all is automatically bad, you know?

02:43:52.760 And people don't vote based on how they think.

02:43:55.280 They vote based on how they feel.

02:43:57.480 And we should be going for the feels, and we're not.

02:44:00.780 And we're paying for it.

02:44:03.300 Feelings don't care about your facts, Ben.

02:44:04.680 So we are, I mean, along those lines, we should...

02:44:08.640 Not to put too fine a point on it. 0.98

02:44:09.760 Stop running shitty candidates. 0.98

02:44:11.880 That is the lesson of this evening thus far. 0.98

02:44:15.180 If you run a very good candidate in Florida, you win by 20.

02:44:17.500 And if you run a very weak candidate, you lose to a person who has brain malfunction in Pennsylvania.

02:44:22.180 Yeah.

02:44:22.340 And right now, it looks like Fetterman is going to win the seat in Pennsylvania.

02:44:25.640 It looks as though Georgia is going to a runoff because Walker is an exceedingly weak candidate.

02:44:29.680 And a runoff in Georgia is not good for him.

02:44:31.060 A runoff in Georgia is very bad because you don't have Brian Kemp to drag you up the ticket the way that you did in this particular election

02:44:35.940 because Brian Kemp is a good candidate.

02:44:37.240 You can see in that same race, he took Stacey Abrams to the woodshed.

02:44:39.680 Stacey Abrams was the darling of the Democratic Party, and Kemp is going to win handily in that race.

02:44:43.860 Meanwhile, Waffle Warnock is a disaster area of a candidate, and Herschel Walker is going to end up in a runoff,

02:44:48.340 which odds are that he may not end up winning that particular race, and so that's another one you can chalk up to a bad candidate.

02:44:56.860 Lauren Voebert right now is on the rocks in Colorado. 0.99

02:44:59.540 That is not a district she should be losing.

02:45:01.040 Right now, she is down by four to five points in Colorado.

02:45:03.940 Still time to pull it out?

02:45:05.100 Still some time.

02:45:06.300 We'll see how that goes. 1.00

02:45:07.160 Don Baltic getting his ass kicked over in New Hampshire. 1.00

02:45:09.460 That is not a close race. 0.99

02:45:10.840 That was expected by a lot of pollsters to be much, much closer than it ended up being.

02:45:14.280 Baltic was the person that the Democrats handpicked to run against Maggie Hassan.

02:45:18.100 They ran a bunch of ads against Baltic's opponents because they figured that Baltic would be the person easiest to beat,

02:45:23.560 and it turns out that that looks to be correct, that that race has already been called.

02:45:26.480 Baltic is done in New Hampshire.

02:45:27.960 So that means that of the races that were on the board at this point,

02:45:30.980 and there are still polls that are open in a lot of these other states,

02:45:33.980 of the races that were on the board at the beginning of the night,

02:45:35.660 Republicans have lost a seat they could have held in Pennsylvania

02:45:38.920 or look to be losing that seat.

02:45:41.340 Georgia is, at best, a toss-up.

02:45:43.580 New Hampshire is gone.

02:45:45.360 And now we're headed out west,

02:45:46.740 and basically you have to bank the Republicans taking the Senate on holding on Nevada,

02:45:51.100 which would be a testament to Laxalt's quality as a candidate.

02:45:54.180 He's the strongest of these candidates.

02:45:55.860 And then we'll have to see how Masters does in Arizona,

02:45:59.260 if Lake can drag him up the ticket.

02:46:01.220 But we are seeing some ticket splitting, right?

02:46:02.560 In New Hampshire, you saw significant ticket splitting. 0.98

02:46:04.160 So Newton won handily, and Baltic got his butt kicked. 0.94

02:46:06.340 So what this says, once again, to Republicans, 0.98

02:46:09.680 the message is always the same. 0.99

02:46:12.900 Don't run shitty candidates 0.97

02:46:15.120 and put the onus on the other guys to defend their policies. 0.98

02:46:18.400 That's it.

02:46:19.140 That's the whole thing.

02:46:20.300 Don't go crazy.

02:46:21.400 Don't think that the environment is so bad

02:46:24.860 that you can run whomever you please

02:46:26.940 and you're still going to win.

02:46:28.480 Don't spit into the wind

02:46:29.840 and then expect that it's not going to come back at you.

02:46:32.280 I'll actually say that the Federman-Oz situation 0.99

02:46:36.720 that's playing out tonight

02:46:37.680 is a lesson that we did not learn in 2020.

02:46:40.820 Everyone said in 2020,

02:46:41.920 Donald Trump can't lose.

02:46:44.040 Joe Biden is a vegetable.

02:46:45.840 Joe Biden won't even leave his basement.

02:46:47.480 Joe Biden can't even string a sentence together.

02:46:49.820 You underestimate what people are willing to tolerate

02:46:54.440 to see their candidate win

02:46:57.340 or see their party win.

02:46:58.840 And they're not, people are not making their decision

02:47:03.100 on the quality of,

02:47:04.720 they're not exclusively making the decision

02:47:07.660 on the quality of the candidate

02:47:09.280 in such a way that you can run.

02:47:11.460 Yeah.

02:47:12.000 I mean, Sean Trendy is now predicting

02:47:13.260 that the Republicans don't take the Senate.

02:47:15.000 He says the Democrats are more likely to pick up a seat

02:47:16.940 and end up at 51

02:47:18.300 than the Republicans are likely to keep it a split,

02:47:20.640 which is not how this night was supposed to go.

02:47:22.580 And it is certainly not how this night was supposed to go

02:47:25.040 by any of the available metrics historically.

02:47:27.200 The Democrats would pick up a Senate seat

02:47:28.880 in an election year

02:47:30.060 where the president of the United States

02:47:31.080 is running at 43%,

02:47:32.180 where 70 plus percent of the American public

02:47:34.860 believes that the economy is moving

02:47:36.240 in the wrong direction.

02:47:38.500 And where you're going to end up picking up,

02:47:41.300 Republicans will end up picking up

02:47:42.300 when all this is said in maybe between 20 and 25 seats

02:47:45.180 in the House.

02:47:46.060 They'll end up with a fairly solid majority in the House.

02:47:48.520 You're not supposed to lose every single close race.

02:47:51.120 And there are a bunch of toss-up races.

02:47:52.640 There are like 25 toss-up races,

02:47:54.060 24 and 25 toss-up races in the House.

02:47:55.800 And Republicans are only going to pick up

02:47:57.720 maybe seven of those.

02:47:59.080 So this is a wave that was blunted

02:48:00.800 by, again, lack of enthusiasm in particular.

02:48:05.080 Again, because, and this is the thing,

02:48:06.720 you have the proof.

02:48:08.360 In a state where Republicans ran strong candidates

02:48:10.840 up and down the ballot,

02:48:12.120 they whomped people.

02:48:14.160 Florida is a great example.

02:48:15.300 They ran a great governor candidate.

02:48:16.620 They ran two very strong senatorial candidates.

02:48:18.420 They ran a bevy of excellent House candidates.

02:48:20.440 And they whomped everybody.

02:48:21.820 And they did the organization.

02:48:22.840 They did the hard work.

02:48:23.500 And they did really, really well.

02:48:25.300 Tonight feels like 2012 felt to me.

02:48:28.680 You know, where everybody thought,

02:48:29.880 okay, he's going to go in real strong.

02:48:31.240 And Romney hasn't prepared a concession speech.

02:48:34.460 You know, and we're watching all these numbers.

02:48:36.200 And that's closer than it should be.

02:48:37.740 And why is that even on the board, you know?

02:48:40.000 Yeah.

02:48:40.380 And expectations were pretty high.

02:48:42.880 Certainly mine were.

02:48:43.560 I think there is some, like, some long-term good news.

02:48:47.900 Because, well, we're all friends with Andrew Breitbart.

02:48:50.440 The late, great, departed Andrew Breitbart.

02:48:52.560 But when he said politics is downstream of culture,

02:48:55.200 the reason for that is because culture can react much faster than politics.

02:48:59.880 You make a decision about what TV shows you watch,

02:49:02.400 what movies you go to,

02:49:03.120 you make those decisions on an hourly basis.

02:49:05.460 You make a political decision every two years.

02:49:07.920 And the one thing that I've noticed a lot,

02:49:09.820 not looking downstream, but looking upstream,

02:49:11.860 is that a bunch of, like, pop culture channels

02:49:13.940 that I would watch just to talk about Star Trek

02:49:15.960 or whatever, Lord of the Rings,

02:49:18.540 these guys haven't become Republicans exactly,

02:49:20.680 although many of them almost have.

02:49:22.780 But the amount of politics

02:49:24.860 that entered these pop culture discussions

02:49:27.280 and the hatred, just the raw hatred for woke politics,

02:49:32.220 just the disgust of it.

02:49:34.240 So if you're looking at what young people are doing,

02:49:37.680 they are not buying into this stuff.

02:49:40.200 No one's buying Rey Skywalker action figures.

02:49:42.880 They don't want anything to do with it.

02:49:44.460 The Star Trek is dead.

02:49:45.440 Star Wars is dead.

02:49:46.220 And people say, what difference does that make?

02:49:47.980 Well, the reason they're dead

02:49:49.140 is because they got a healthy injection of left-wing politics 0.71

02:49:52.180 and it killed them.

02:49:53.880 And non-political people now are talking politically

02:49:57.760 and they're not so much talking about

02:49:59.620 how much they like conservatives,

02:50:01.040 but they're talking about how much they hate the woke,

02:50:03.080 which brings us, of course, to the main point.

02:50:05.380 And that is, we know what the woke agenda is.

02:50:08.040 What's our agenda?

02:50:09.540 Well, I think Herschel Walker is making some live remarks

02:50:13.900 and we're going to try to join those in just a moment.

02:50:16.340 Then we're going to kick it over

02:50:17.120 to the Election Wire guys.

02:50:18.640 Our friends at Trafalgar are doing some polling

02:50:20.500 and their results are a little different

02:50:24.380 than what we're seeing kind of in a lot of the reporting

02:50:27.140 that's happening right now.

02:50:28.000 So it'll be nice to hear a different perspective as we go.

02:50:31.560 And then hopefully we'll be joined by Megan Kelly

02:50:33.740 shortly after that.

02:50:34.660 So we have still a lot of great voices coming to you tonight.

02:50:37.240 We know it's been a long night.

02:50:38.160 We appreciate you sticking with us.

02:50:40.400 In the olden days, back in the heady bygone days of 2016,

02:50:44.980 we all drank heavily when we did this show.

02:50:47.860 And it made for some really funny moments,

02:50:50.360 but we're certainly not doing that tonight.

02:50:55.040 It looks like we're going to go over right now

02:50:56.980 to Cabot Phillips and the Election Wire team

02:50:58.880 and hear about the polling that the Trafalgar group is doing.

02:51:03.780 Poll analysis.

02:51:04.980 Desk call in the Senate.

02:51:06.720 Don Bolduc has been defeated by incumbent Democrat Maggie Hassan,

02:51:10.540 a race that we obviously,

02:51:11.840 a lot of people were hoping was going to be closer.

02:51:13.260 It looks like it's already been called by decision desk.

02:51:16.360 So we're going to keep an eye on that one.

02:51:17.660 A couple, few, a few more updates.

02:51:19.600 We mentioned earlier, Pennsylvania.

02:51:21.300 We had a mistake in the air.

02:51:22.360 There was not 90%, 73% reporting right now in Pennsylvania,

02:51:26.520 and it's getting a lot tighter.

02:51:28.620 It's Fetterman right now, 49.3%.

02:51:30.800 Dr. Oz at 48.3%.

02:51:33.140 So Pennsylvania very much in play.

02:51:36.180 Same with Georgia.

02:51:37.100 We're going to get some more data coming in there,

02:51:38.640 but right now 86% reporting.

02:51:41.260 We've got 49.4% for Walker.

02:51:43.500 Warnock is at 48.5%.

02:51:45.820 Now, again, Fulton County, we still need 15% of their vote.

02:51:48.920 Gwinnett, we're still waiting on 44% of their vote.

02:51:51.000 DeKalb, 32%.

02:51:52.420 So there are some populous counties around Atlanta

02:51:54.720 that do go, tend to go overwhelmingly Democrat.

02:51:57.780 So expect things to tighten in Georgia.

02:52:00.040 And if it does, in fact, tighten,

02:52:01.980 you're probably not going to see any of the candidates

02:52:03.780 getting to 50 tonight if the trends continue that way.

02:52:07.840 But Robert Haley from Trafalgar Group.

02:52:10.580 Robert, what is a state where you've seen kind of a surprise

02:52:14.400 in the state that's playing out kind of how we expect it from Fulton?

02:52:17.600 Yeah, I think New Hampshire and Ohio are part of the examples.

02:52:21.400 Ohio is one that everybody was saying was going to be very competitive.

02:52:24.600 We never really believed it would be competitive.

02:52:26.900 I think the margin's eight now.

02:52:28.160 It's probably going to grow to more than that.

02:52:30.620 New Hampshire is a state where everybody had within two or three percent

02:52:34.760 on either side, and it looks like it's a blowout.

02:52:37.980 And now New Hampshire people are very clever

02:52:39.540 and not always forthcoming with their opinions.

02:52:42.140 But there's perfect examples of two that are just completely in line

02:52:46.920 with what it looked like it was going to be and then way off.

02:52:50.720 And as the guys were talking about earlier,

02:52:52.260 how kind of the eyes of the Republicans are now shifting out west,

02:52:55.260 looking at Arizona and Nevada as two spots that they're going to need to get to 51.

02:52:59.440 As those results start coming in, where should we be watching in Arizona and Nevada?

02:53:04.500 Well, I think you should.

02:53:05.440 I mean, obviously, we've always thought Nevada was going to be a win,

02:53:09.480 just like we thought Ohio was going to be a win,

02:53:11.400 just like we thought North Carolina was going to be a win.

02:53:13.220 We didn't really see those as the ones that were tossed up for tonight.

02:53:17.120 So I think affirming that that turns out the way we expected in Nevada,

02:53:22.380 it's going to really go to Arizona and seeing how far behind Masters is from Lake.

02:53:29.340 If Masters stays within four or five points of Lake, I think he makes it.

02:53:33.500 If he sinks a little wider, he's not going to.

02:53:36.600 But it looks like right now he is that close.

02:53:39.700 And what we also know about Arizona is those votes that are going to be favoring Lake and Masters

02:53:46.720 were going to come in at the end and not the beginning.

02:53:49.900 And it's kind of where it's supposed to be.

02:53:53.220 One final question for you.

02:53:54.300 On Pennsylvania, we mentioned candidates trailing governors.

02:53:57.600 Right now, Fetterman is about five and a half points behind Shapiro,

02:54:01.840 about north or south of there.

02:54:04.100 Do you think in the end, if he stays within five and a half points of where Shapiro was,

02:54:07.160 that it'll be enough to put him ahead?

02:54:08.400 No, I think Fetterman's got to be a little more competitive than that.

02:54:13.120 Because where Shapiro is, you've got a situation that Fetterman has people who might actually agree

02:54:21.600 with his philosophy more but just don't think he's competent and he's losing a lot of those.

02:54:27.300 I mean, the only thing Oz is really suffering from, the real problem, is the out-of-town guy.

02:54:32.320 I mean, if he didn't have that corporate bagger thing on his back, he would already be there.

02:54:37.160 But I think that that margin is separate enough that it is easily a split, can be a split decision in Pennsylvania.

02:54:44.300 All right, well, the night is young.

02:54:45.340 We're going to be talking to you a lot, some more.

02:54:46.660 We're going to keep digging into all these numbers.

02:54:48.540 Back to you guys.

02:54:50.540 You know, Ben, you were talking about the quality of the candidates.

02:54:53.080 And it just reminded me of, like, the hockey win, you know, in 1980.

02:54:59.440 They've got professionals on the team.

02:55:01.780 And we have hopeful, chipper amateurs.

02:55:05.120 They play professional politics.

02:55:07.380 It's their religion.

02:55:07.980 It's their job.

02:55:08.600 It's their hobby.

02:55:10.140 It's everything.

02:55:10.620 And it's tough, you know, because if your entire political persuasion is we need less politics, you're not going to drop people who are really good at that conversion.

02:55:20.280 I think this is the thing with the Republicans, though.

02:55:22.380 I think they are in this shift and they have not found their feet.

02:55:25.440 I mean, I just believe that this is – I think the Democrats ultimately are dooming themselves, even though –

02:55:31.360 I agree.

02:55:31.680 You know, but I think that the Republicans have a chance to renew.

02:55:35.260 They have a chance to change.

02:55:37.100 You know, one thing you might think would happen in a democratic republic is you might listen to the people a little bit.

02:55:43.980 We were talking about this a minute ago.

02:55:45.620 I think the people repeatedly in the last 20 years of elections have been saying, move it back somewhere in the middle.

02:55:52.260 Move it back.

02:55:52.720 You know, they keep overcorrecting.

02:55:55.220 The politicians keep overcorrecting.

02:55:57.340 They elected Joe Biden for normalcy.

02:55:59.180 And instead he's turned into, you know, like – he thinks he's FDR.

02:56:02.980 He's a lot more like a bad Stalin or something like this, you know. 0.66

02:56:06.620 But no, he's gone all the way to the left.

02:56:09.600 The people never voted for that.

02:56:10.840 They don't want it.

02:56:12.000 On the other hand, we do the same thing.

02:56:13.620 We don't speak to the social issues that people care about that move people emotionally.

02:56:18.240 You're talking about the fact that we're emotionally stunted on this.

02:56:22.300 The Republicans are emotionally stunted on this.

02:56:24.100 They will not listen to the things that matter.

02:56:26.140 They didn't – you didn't hear a lot of big campaigning on the teacher issue, on the stuff that's been going to –

02:56:32.680 But all of this requires a baseline level of confidence.

02:56:34.660 I agree with you, Ben.

02:56:36.020 No, I'm not –

02:56:36.440 Because –

02:56:37.020 I'm not – we're not arguing.

02:56:38.540 Yeah.

02:56:38.860 You know, when you look at – here's the thing.

02:56:41.140 Some of the more radical candidates, the people like Baldick, right, they were talking about some of this stuff.

02:56:45.000 The problem is there wasn't a baseline level of understanding that they could even do the job in a competent fashion.

02:56:49.680 The same thing is true for Herschel Walker in Georgia.

02:56:51.260 If you look at the exit polls, people are saying this is not a person who I trust to actually be able to do the job.

02:56:55.900 You can do the culture war stuff, and it's the icing on the cake.

02:56:59.000 But the cake has to be competent governance.

02:57:01.360 And this is what you're seeing – again, I'm going to use DeSantis as the best example because he's the only one who's winning a huge victory now, like an overwhelming victory.

02:57:07.040 He and Kemp, actually.

02:57:07.680 We can talk Kemp, too.

02:57:08.680 Kemp ran directly in the teeth of a lot of what Trump was saying about him.

02:57:11.880 Trump didn't want him to be the gubernatorial candidate.

02:57:14.500 He ripped on him for a solid year and a half.

02:57:16.520 After the election of 2020, he suggested that it was Kemp's fault that he had lost Georgia.

02:57:21.020 And Kemp said, listen, I've done a good job in this state.

02:57:23.020 I've made sure the state stayed open.

02:57:24.440 I was competent.

02:57:25.500 And on top of that, there will be some icing on culture war issues, and we can do all that.

02:57:29.920 And people are like, okay, this guy's competent.

02:57:31.500 I trust this guy with this job.

02:57:32.660 And the same thing with DeSantis, except even more so.

02:57:34.920 And then you look at sort of – so when we talk culture war, because that's what we do for a living,

02:57:40.400 and when we talk about the issues that are really important to America,

02:57:42.180 and I think the cultural issues are in many ways more important than the day-to-day in terms of the direction of the country over the long haul,

02:57:48.860 when it comes to actually voting, in the same way that people will be polled and they'll say,

02:57:52.780 I hate Congress. 0.94

02:57:53.340 Congress is terrible. 0.99

02:57:54.000 It's really bad.

02:57:54.560 And then just keep voting for the same congressperson because they understand that the person –

02:57:58.040 or they believe the person has a baseline level of competence.

02:58:00.600 The Republicans have to stop putting up candidates who is appealing to the kind of most passionate side of them,

02:58:06.880 as opposed to the candidate who they believe can actually convince people that they're going to be somewhat decent at the job.

02:58:12.860 And this is something that you've all have in over at AEI.

02:58:15.740 He's made this point.

02:58:16.320 He's correct.

02:58:17.020 That Congress, for Republicans and for Democrats too, for everyone,

02:58:20.600 it used to be that the institutions shaped the people coming into them.

02:58:23.840 The idea was that you went into Congress to become a congressperson.

02:58:26.800 And then when you were a congressperson, you did the things that congresspeople do.

02:58:29.800 And now you go into the institution and you don't use it as an – it doesn't shape you.

02:58:33.460 You shape it.

02:58:34.100 You are supposed to use it as a platform.

02:58:35.380 Now you're going to grow your Instagram following.

02:58:37.020 You're going to get on Fox News.

02:58:37.820 You're going to make sure that everybody hears what you have to say about a particular given topic.

02:58:41.340 Well, that may be a great way of building your following.

02:58:43.100 It is not a particularly great way of winning elections, as it turns out.

02:58:46.100 And we – I think everybody – I think in 2008, and particularly in 2012, Democrats got high on their own supply.

02:58:53.080 And I think in 2016, Republicans got high on their own supply and they still haven't come down yet.

02:58:56.260 And the lesson that Democrats learned from 2012 is there is a forever coalition of minority voters 1.00

02:59:00.640 that we can cobble together who will continue to vote for us no matter how stupid and crazy and woke we are. 0.99

02:59:04.920 And they got smacked in the face by Donald Trump in 2016 on that basis and then smacked in the face in terms of the House over the course of the subsequent years. 0.99

02:59:13.000 Republicans in 2016 ran Donald Trump and they got high on their own supply, which was we can be as bombastic and break all the rules as we want.

02:59:19.460 They don't understand.

02:59:20.200 Obama was a unique candidate.

02:59:21.460 Trump was a unique candidate.

02:59:22.440 There are no more Obamas. 0.89

02:59:23.280 There are no more Trumps.

02:59:24.680 Carrie Lake is a unique talent. 0.98

02:59:26.960 But it's hard to find unique talents.

02:59:28.280 You know what is actually a lot easier to do?

02:59:30.300 Finding steady, competent people who are not going to blow it out of the water.

02:59:34.160 Not everybody needs to run for president.

02:59:35.620 We need 400 people who aren't going to run for president.

02:59:37.180 I think it needs to be a little bit more holistic than this.

02:59:40.120 I don't think you can divide it.

02:59:41.140 First of all, I completely agree.

02:59:43.160 We were talking about this as a guy coming in and asking for a job and saying my values are the same, but I am going to bankrupt your company.

02:59:48.660 No, the first thing, he's got to do the job.

02:59:50.340 And that's absolutely true.

02:59:51.660 But if you look at Glenn Youngkin, I think he's the perfect example.

02:59:54.000 He's kind of a typical Chamber of Commerce Republican, but it wasn't until he picked up on the education issue that he really started to move forward.

03:00:04.240 It's not that, oh, yes, you should have hammered that more.

03:00:07.940 You know, Gorka was ragging on him for not being more Trumpy.

03:00:11.620 And I was thinking, no, this is a purple state.

03:00:13.640 But it's a holistic approach.

03:00:15.220 It's a way of looking at the world that Youngkin finally at least imitated that put him over the top.

03:00:20.180 And I think that you're right it begins with competence, and you're right it begins with political competence, and you're also right that Obama and Trump were outliers.

03:00:28.840 But also, you know, it is part of a way of life.

03:00:32.380 You know, you think about prosperity and freedom because you also think that children should learn certain things and not other things.

03:00:39.480 It's all one point of view.

03:00:41.320 And I think that Republicans have just been too shy in the old British sense of cowardice, of cowardly, in talking about their whole vision and in talking about a vision in and of itself.

03:00:52.780 Yeah.

03:00:52.980 So like the two breakout candidates of this election are Carrie Lake and DeSantis, right?

03:00:57.820 I mean, DeSantis is already there, but just performance out of the park.

03:01:00.920 And to me, the one thing that they both have in common immediately and obviously is not just the conviction of their beliefs, but they have rhetorical dexterity.

03:01:09.860 When somebody comes at them with an attack question, they don't just take it.

03:01:13.000 And not only do they not just take it, they come back with an answer that backfoots the person who's asking the questions.

03:01:18.300 I remember when, just a couple days ago, when Carrie was asked a question about the woman whose son died of a heart attack the next day.

03:01:25.800 And I thought, okay, is she going to go after this woman? 0.98

03:01:29.060 She said, look, you've just lost your childhood.

03:01:30.760 I'm not going to come down on you.

03:01:33.660 That's dexterity.

03:01:35.500 That's the ability to think on your feet and the ability to maintain a positive image of yourself.

03:01:42.500 But the bigger problem is, you know, what is it that we stand for?

03:01:45.660 If you're trying to conserve something, you are essentially saying no all the time.

03:01:50.880 It's just a logical conclusion, right?

03:01:53.120 Everybody wants to change this.

03:01:54.300 We like it the way it is.

03:01:55.100 So we say no, no, no, no, no.

03:01:56.960 But that's not winning.

03:01:59.100 The people, the big Hispanic drift and all this other stuff, it's not so much that people are coming to the Republicans as they're running away from the Democrats.

03:02:05.320 That's correct.

03:02:05.880 So how do you hold on to these people?

03:02:09.700 We're doing all stick and no carrot, right?

03:02:12.620 And we got a great carrot.

03:02:14.180 And we're not able to basically formulate it in a way that people can connect.

03:02:20.160 This is my problem with the philosophy that people vote against something.

03:02:24.100 I think that's a half truth.

03:02:25.660 I understand that, of course, you know, when the economy is bad, when prices are going nuts and all this stuff, that they're going to vote against that.

03:02:33.020 But you do have to give them something to vote for.

03:02:35.020 You really do.

03:02:35.860 You have to stand for something.

03:02:37.380 And it isn't enough.

03:02:40.440 Conservatism that is purely no, no, no, we don't want to change is not enough to move people forward because the world changes and things have to change.

03:02:47.580 I mean, you and I have talked about this a million times.

03:02:49.520 We don't actually want to go back to the 50s.

03:02:51.760 We want to have some of those values move into this new world that we're in.

03:02:55.220 And I just think that Republicans have been bad at this.

03:02:58.480 And Trump was good at it.

03:03:00.160 Trump was good at visionary politics, you know.

03:03:02.220 He wasn't good at actually governing.

03:03:04.240 I don't think he wasn't as good at governing as we wish he had been.

03:03:07.600 But he was good at, like, visionary politics.

03:03:10.200 And you can say anything you want about him.

03:03:11.940 But I understood what he represented when he was on stage.

03:03:15.020 And a lot of times with these guys, I just don't.

03:03:17.120 And I think that just reactionary gestures and reactionary gestures and basic, you know, all capitalism all the time are not winning ideas.

03:03:26.580 Nobody said that all capitalism all the time is going to win.

03:03:29.020 And I agree with you that Republicans should engage on social issues, particularly the stuff about kids.

03:03:34.460 And that's what Glenn Youngkin showed.

03:03:35.980 At the core of Glenn Youngkin was a guy who was not scary.

03:03:38.960 Democrats tried to make him scary, and they couldn't make him scary.

03:03:41.220 And Democrats are trying to make a bunch of candidates scary, and they're succeeding in making them scary.

03:03:44.880 Because they're not good candidates.

03:03:46.340 I mean, I'm looking at these Ohio results.

03:03:47.960 J.D. Vance won.

03:03:49.080 That is a red state.

03:03:50.060 He did not win a double-digit victory.

03:03:51.920 He should be winning a double-digit victory in Ohio.

03:03:53.740 That is an underperformance by J.D. Vance, even if he wins the seat, which he did.

03:03:57.920 Ohio 13, that was a Biden plus three seat.

03:04:00.820 Trump endorsed a beauty queen over there.

03:04:02.780 And Amelia Sykes held the seat.

03:04:03.980 That's a Biden plus three.

03:04:04.820 Biden's had 43 percent approval in a blood-red state like Ohio now.

03:04:08.440 Macy Kaptor is in Ohio 9.

03:04:10.000 That is a Trump seat.

03:04:10.920 That's a seat Trump won.

03:04:12.200 She's a Democrat.

03:04:13.160 She held the seat against another Trump candidate.

03:04:15.400 This is not just a—the three scenarios I laid out at the front, red trickle, red tide, red wave.

03:04:22.280 This is a red trickle.

03:04:23.380 This is not a red tide.

03:04:24.260 This is not a red wave.

03:04:24.980 This is at best a red trickle.

03:04:26.320 So I want to go to our friend Megan Kelly, who's joining us right now, to get a little bit of insight.

03:04:30.540 We've all been talking, Megan, for the last five hours nonstop.

03:04:34.400 None of us have gotten up from our seats.

03:04:35.760 We're loopy.

03:04:37.200 We're inarticulate.

03:04:38.180 There's actually slurred speech happening.

03:04:40.340 Please save us.

03:04:41.480 Give us a—inject new life into us.

03:04:44.160 Well, I have to tell you, I haven't listened to the whole thing, but I feel like people got themselves all wound up

03:04:51.540 that it was going to be the tsunami, and now they're failing to see that this is a big night, okay?

03:04:57.300 Can we just remember that just about four weeks ago, it looked like absolute devastation

03:05:03.000 compared to where we were a couple months before that.

03:05:05.420 The Democrats had the wind at their back after Dobbs.

03:05:08.540 Trump dominated August with Mar-a-Lago.

03:05:11.440 The Republicans' numbers were free-falling from astronomical heights back down to really dire numbers.

03:05:18.740 And then, like a miracle, in mid-September, things started to change, and their fortunes started to look better again.

03:05:25.700 And let's say they don't win another seat in the House, or in the Senate, that they don't win the Senate tonight, which I still think they will.

03:05:33.540 But if they don't, and they only win the House, it's huge.

03:05:36.500 It's obstruction.

03:05:37.580 It stops the agenda.

03:05:39.240 There will be no more Inflation Reduction Act nonsense.

03:05:43.600 January 6th distractions are over.

03:05:45.960 Their primetime show is done.

03:05:47.660 Like, they needed to be stopped.

03:05:49.940 They were out of control.

03:05:51.560 And at a minimum, it appears that the American people have said, and seen, on the nonsense that we've been witness to for the past two years.

03:06:00.040 So that is cause for celebration.

03:06:02.680 I'm with Elon Musk.

03:06:03.780 I like divided government, too.

03:06:06.400 Whether they win the Senate or not, I don't know.

03:06:08.380 But I'll tell you what, I could make a good case, if I wanted a Republican president in 2024, that it is better for the GOP to not be in control of both branches of Congress.

03:06:19.840 The more they control, the more they're going to get blamed.

03:06:22.900 The more, I've watched this for many years now from the anchor's desk, the more they control, the more the Democrats have their foil to say,

03:06:30.720 we were going to do all these amazing things for you, except for that evil Mitch McConnell, you know, and that evil Kevin McCarthy.

03:06:36.980 It's going to be a lot tougher if they control the Senate and the GOP controls the House. 0.98

03:06:41.860 Right now, I'm feeling good, because I think we're getting divided government.

03:06:45.440 I don't really care that much about whether the Republicans control both houses of Congress.

03:06:51.000 I think you're right about candidate quality.

03:06:53.040 But I think we're also learning that the Democrats are truly, deeply ideological on some of these crazy issues.

03:06:59.160 And the Republicans are just going to have to get real.

03:07:01.700 They're going to have to get in there and get dirty and fight those battles where the Dems are. 1.00

03:07:05.340 And it was always a bad map for us in the Senate.

03:07:07.940 We've known that for the last two years.

03:07:09.780 We knew that this would be the hard one.

03:07:11.820 And things are more advantageous for us just from a straight map point of view two years from now.

03:07:17.400 There is a real opportunity for Republicans to have a great 2024.

03:07:22.560 And to your point, if we stop their agenda in the House, if we stop the Biden agenda in the House,

03:07:26.840 just that alone will be cause to continue drinking well into whatever ultimate date they finally stop counting votes.

03:07:34.080 The only big thing, you know, the biggest thing that would be looming if the Dems controlled the Senate

03:07:39.520 would be a Supreme Court retirement or death, right?

03:07:42.920 A Supreme Court vacancy of some kind, because obviously the Democrats would control that. 0.82

03:07:48.100 I don't know of one that is pending on the GOP side.

03:07:53.680 I don't think Clarence Thomas has any plans of retiring under Joe Biden.

03:07:57.640 Now, God forbid, something worse happened to him.

03:08:00.760 Yeah, but still, it's 6-3 right now.

03:08:03.220 So, I mean, forgive me for just being all about the numbers and not the humanity,

03:08:06.640 but there's a little cushion.

03:08:08.540 Very little, right?

03:08:09.520 Because John Roberts isn't exactly the most reliable.

03:08:13.060 I'm just saying, like, the downside to the GOP not winning the Senate is really not that large.

03:08:18.060 I realize it's a disappointment for people who wanted the tsunami,

03:08:20.760 but look, remember how you felt September 1st.

03:08:23.880 Listen, you're exactly right that Republicans should certainly be relieved if they end up with the House,

03:08:27.600 because anything that stops Biden's agenda is great.

03:08:31.140 I do wonder what you think about the sort of big winner of the night is going to be on the Republican side,

03:08:36.900 DeSantis, who just crushed it in Florida.

03:08:38.540 He's winning by 20 points in Florida and dragging the entire Republican Party to victory across Florida.

03:08:43.460 Meanwhile, I just want to read you.

03:08:45.000 This is Donald Trump's only tweet since the election on Truth Social.

03:08:47.500 You ready for this?

03:08:48.260 Here it is.

03:08:48.720 This is Donald Trump's response to the election so far.

03:08:51.040 Joe O'Day lost big, capital B-I-G.

03:08:54.460 Make America great again.

03:08:55.860 Joe O'Day is the Republican candidate in Colorado who was not sufficiently pro-Trump.

03:09:00.180 That is his only comment so far on the election,

03:09:02.340 is that Joe O'Day lost big in Colorado.

03:09:04.760 Make America great again by keeping Michael Bennett in the Senate.

03:09:07.340 I just, I don't know how this is going to play.

03:09:09.060 Like, at a certain point, aren't people tired of this?

03:09:11.140 I'm sorry.

03:09:11.680 It's a really good question.

03:09:12.800 That's what's on my mind.

03:09:14.260 Like, I'm sorry.

03:09:15.560 This is extraordinarily exhausting.

03:09:17.280 He spent the last two days and a half attacking Ron DeSantis,

03:09:20.180 who's the only big winner of the election,

03:09:21.900 and who expended actual resources trying to get other senators elected.

03:09:25.200 And then his first statement during the election is ripping on Joe O'Day.

03:09:29.440 That's his move?

03:09:30.560 Okay.

03:09:31.040 Can I tell you what you sound like to me, Ben?

03:09:32.720 Ben, you sound like there's no way the Republican Party is going to stand by him

03:09:36.940 after that attack on John McCain.

03:09:38.000 Oh, no, I'm not saying that.

03:09:39.320 No, I'm just saying that.

03:09:40.340 I'm not crazy.

03:09:40.960 I'm not crazy.

03:09:41.660 I'm not, yeah.

03:09:41.980 Right?

03:09:42.100 It's just another, no, they are not going to get sick of it.

03:09:45.420 No, they are not going to abandon him over this.

03:09:48.180 No, the hardcore Trump faithful is not mad about any of that.

03:09:51.780 And they don't really love Ron DeSantis anywhere near as much as they love Trump,

03:09:55.260 so he can get away with it.

03:09:56.280 You don't think that they're going to hold Trump responsible for picking candidates

03:10:00.640 by whether or not they think he was truly elected or not?

03:10:04.040 No, I don't.

03:10:05.940 I think that's a brand of religion.

03:10:07.520 This is the most depressing thing you've said.

03:10:08.980 Yeah, that is pretty depressing.

03:10:10.960 You're encouraging me that we had kept the House,

03:10:13.020 and now you're depressing me that the former president,

03:10:16.400 who's lost his 27th in Georgia, nominated Dr. Oz,

03:10:19.760 Herschel Walker, Blake Masters, and Tom Balduck.

03:10:23.380 I said it earlier, you should be disqualified from leading the Republican Party

03:10:29.880 because he went out of his way to cost us the Senate when he lost the election in 2020.

03:10:35.800 He went out of his way to make sure the Republicans did not control the Senate.

03:10:39.400 He told people for a month, do not vote.

03:10:42.140 He was not disqualified on that basis.

03:10:44.680 Why on a night that's going to be framed?

03:10:47.980 Listen, the Republicans are going to frame tonight as a victory no matter what.

03:10:50.640 If we get the House, that's enough.

03:10:52.320 We'll frame it as a victory.

03:10:54.120 In a victory, we're certainly not going to blame Donald Trump

03:10:56.480 for things that we wouldn't even blame him for when it ended in our defeat.

03:11:00.940 I think you're absolutely right.

03:11:02.740 Let's not forget, it's not just Blake Masters and Don Balduck.

03:11:05.780 It's also Carrie Lake and J.D. Vance.

03:11:08.860 And they'll have enough on there.

03:11:10.600 And we don't know about Herschel Walker.

03:11:12.940 He's complicated.

03:11:13.820 But anyway, he's got enough in the win column to spin it.

03:11:20.580 And let's face it, his ardent fans don't really need to be spun anyway.

03:11:24.660 They're already with him.

03:11:25.660 Whatever you say, we're grateful.

03:11:28.080 We owe it all to you.

03:11:29.660 DeSantis owes it all to you.

03:11:31.380 You just proceed as you want.

03:11:32.580 The only way forward is for Trump to decide he doesn't want to run.

03:11:38.320 There's no one who can take him down.

03:11:39.960 Man, I mean, I hate to disagree with you, and I hope that you're wrong, obviously.

03:11:46.400 I think that, you know, because Trump can't hold himself back,

03:11:50.120 he will take a pot shot at DeSantis within the next 48 hours.

03:11:52.680 Oh, yeah.

03:11:52.940 100%.

03:11:53.240 I mean, just without a doubt.

03:11:55.200 And I'm sorry, but the only thing that, I mean, maybe I'm too online

03:11:58.620 or maybe I have too many Republican friends,

03:12:00.040 but the only thing Republicans feel good about tonight is Florida.

03:12:03.440 It's like the only thing that Republicans feel like really good.

03:12:05.400 And I'm not just like, okay, we can console ourselves,

03:12:08.660 we'll do the New York Times calming ourselves

03:12:11.080 by putting our face in cold water thing,

03:12:12.780 and then we'll realize that we have the House.

03:12:14.360 The only thing that people are truly pumped up about

03:12:16.040 is the fact that Florida was great for Republicans tonight.

03:12:18.440 When Trump goes out there within the next week

03:12:20.380 because he's declaring for the presidency,

03:12:21.860 and he starts just ripping on the only state that did well for Republicans

03:12:25.320 while celebrating Joe O'Day losing in Colorado to a Democrat, like...

03:12:29.600 All right, I'm going to make you feel better about that, too.

03:12:30.680 Will Sanity, will someone, like, be sane?

03:12:33.300 I'm going to make you feel better about that.

03:12:33.560 Like, for five seconds?

03:12:34.460 Here, I got you. I got you, Ben.

03:12:37.780 Here, so I, believe it or not, I recognize all of Donald Trump's flaws.

03:12:42.460 I do.

03:12:44.620 But I, he's polling better and better

03:12:48.800 in these hypothetical matchups against Joe Biden

03:12:51.200 or some hypothetical Democrat.

03:12:52.780 I am not convinced that he cannot beat a Democrat,

03:12:57.140 that he might not, that he's not the best choice to take on that role.

03:13:00.560 He is the 800-pound gorilla.

03:13:02.300 He knows even better than DeSantis how to fight.

03:13:05.060 He's got a way bigger name recognition and some brand loyalty.

03:13:09.000 The GOP will get on board with him.

03:13:11.420 And unlike somebody like DeSantis, if there's a fight,

03:13:14.180 his core faithful will be out there for him.

03:13:16.220 They will get to the polls for Donald Trump.

03:13:18.120 That is fair.

03:13:18.540 And the rest of the Republicans will come home the way they did the last time.

03:13:21.860 And I know that he's a little untethered.

03:13:26.460 But if I could refer you back to the actual policies that he put in place,

03:13:32.660 most of us really like them.

03:13:34.220 So it may be like one of these, again, like, oh, what happened?

03:13:39.360 But, you know, there's something to wrap around yourself when you go to bed tonight,

03:13:44.240 like a Supreme Court justice and taxes and someone who fights the woke wars that we're all in.

03:13:49.860 There's also just understanding whose movie it is.

03:13:52.920 It is Donald Trump's movie.

03:13:54.720 We are all bit parts, right?

03:13:58.340 In the movie that is Donald Trump's movie,

03:14:00.500 his name is right there at the beginning.

03:14:01.780 It said Trump across the screen.

03:14:03.940 And narrative is an actual power that exists in the universe.

03:14:08.720 It's as much a...

03:14:09.880 I don't think that narrative is just something that we create to help us understand the world.

03:14:14.080 I think it's something that exists because the world is the way that it is.

03:14:17.540 And it is Donald Trump's story right up until it isn't.

03:14:22.100 It's never...

03:14:23.020 There are things that have happened in my lifetime in politics

03:14:25.500 that you simply could not have scripted.

03:14:28.720 They would have told you it was too on the nose.

03:14:30.400 You couldn't have made up that on the eve of the election in 2004,

03:14:38.340 literal Osama bin Laden would endorse John Kerry from a cave somewhere in Pakistan.

03:14:46.560 That our cartoon character president, George W. Bush,

03:14:50.980 would be running against a cartoon adversary, John Kerry,

03:14:53.760 and the supervillain from season one would show back up to endorse John Kerry.

03:14:58.700 You can't make that up.

03:14:59.820 Donald Trump's entire life in American politics is just that moment stretched out across now what will be eight years.

03:15:07.520 This goes to what Drew was saying earlier.

03:15:09.380 So if you look at the last series of presidential elections,

03:15:12.220 you could basically divide them into elections that got people to come out to vote for

03:15:17.040 or elections that got people to come out to vote against, right?

03:15:20.700 George Bush was never the kind of guy that people were like waving flags.

03:15:24.160 Trump is a vote for candidate.

03:15:25.640 Bobby Kennedy was a vote for candidate.

03:15:27.740 Ronald Reagan was a vote for candidate.

03:15:29.500 Barack Obama was a vote for candidate, right?

03:15:31.820 These are political presidential candidates who people are excited about getting into office.

03:15:37.080 But if you look at the 2004 election, right, it's like, which one of these guys do I like less?

03:15:42.140 And I think that the ability to have a vote for president is the most important thing.

03:15:50.720 He's not on the ballot tonight.

03:15:52.660 And he's the only person I've seen that gets people to vote.

03:15:58.000 Well, you've seen his rallies, right?

03:15:59.680 Now, the question is, how wide does that go?

03:16:01.560 And a little discipline would help.

03:16:04.060 But nevertheless, he's a vote for guy.

03:16:07.340 There are people who, millions of people who are like, I'm in.

03:16:11.780 And Biden is a vote against guy, right?

03:16:15.680 He was elected to the degree that he was elected in 2020.

03:16:18.120 It was a vote against Trump is what got.

03:16:19.720 But nobody gets up in the morning and goes,

03:16:21.780 I think I'm going to go out and look at pictures of Joe Biden again today.

03:16:24.720 Because he's not a vote for guy.

03:16:26.740 He's a vote against guy.

03:16:27.880 And so you kind of have to hold on to your strengths when you've got them.

03:16:31.980 So here you've got this vote for guy in Donald Trump.

03:16:34.520 Can we do something to turn down the negatives a little bit?

03:16:37.280 You know, can we just kind of?

03:16:38.500 No.

03:16:39.200 No.

03:16:40.660 DeSantis is proving that he's a vote for guy also.

03:16:43.300 But DeSantis' ad in Florida, Ben, the one ad that was making all the headway for him,

03:16:49.200 was the ad of all of these regular people saying he did this, he did this.

03:16:53.000 He governed, right?

03:16:54.500 He was competent.

03:16:55.220 He produced a clearly operating, functional American state.

03:17:00.940 And so you've got to have the ability to deliver on that, too.

03:17:04.540 Yeah.

03:17:04.760 Well, I totally agree with that.

03:17:06.160 Just going to note a couple more results since I'm in a depressive mood.

03:17:09.860 Oh, good.

03:17:10.160 The Republicans have lost Steve Chabot in Ohio District 1.

03:17:14.740 So Democrats actually flipped a Republican district in Ohio.

03:17:18.340 So that's not going amazing.

03:17:19.280 I think that we're a little bit early on the, like, we're all, you know, I want to keep

03:17:24.480 an eye on Carrie Lake's election in Arizona.

03:17:26.340 It's still very early.

03:17:27.160 That was a very tight race.

03:17:28.140 We're treating that as a foregone conclusion that she gets elected over there. 1.00

03:17:31.260 You know, it's way too early to announce whether she's going to get actually elected 0.99

03:17:34.840 governor in Arizona.

03:17:37.040 The polls were all over the place.

03:17:38.140 There were some that were showing her up really big against Hobbes, and there were ones

03:17:40.220 that were showing her up, like, very, very narrow against Hobbes.

03:17:42.360 So I'll be curious to see how that one works out as well.

03:17:45.540 Listen, I will acknowledge there are people who love Donald Trump with a fiery passion

03:17:49.940 of a thousand suns.

03:17:51.580 Also, there's not a single human being in the United States who doesn't have an opinion

03:17:54.520 about Donald Trump.

03:17:55.140 That's right.

03:17:55.720 Everyone has an opinion.

03:17:56.960 There are no independents when it comes to Donald Trump.

03:17:58.860 There's no one who's flipping on Donald Trump.

03:18:00.320 The hardest thing in politics is to flip somebody not from one party to the other, but from a

03:18:04.760 candidate they've already voted not for to that candidate.

03:18:08.000 That is an explicit admission that you did it wrong.

03:18:10.080 And you never see that.

03:18:11.480 It doesn't happen.

03:18:12.360 It just doesn't happen in politics. 0.92

03:18:13.920 The people are like, you know, that Trump I didn't vote for him in 2020, but gosh darn

03:18:17.720 it, you know, now I've just, I've changed my mind.

03:18:19.760 I've decided it's a completely new ballgame, and I'm wrong.

03:18:22.220 How many Republicans, I mean, this is exactly what you're seeing inside the Republican Party

03:18:24.640 now.

03:18:25.040 How many Republicans are looking at Trump, and they're like, I love that guy, and then

03:18:27.900 they're like, man, I just can't, I can't stand it.

03:18:29.600 Like, people make up their mind, and then their mind is made up.

03:18:32.060 People love him because no one can tell him what to do.

03:18:35.300 And people hate him because no one can tell him what to do.

03:18:38.520 And that's the dichotomy of the guy.

03:18:40.700 That's the, that's the...

03:18:42.320 All I want...

03:18:43.360 And we can, and because we cannot look away.

03:18:45.840 We're sitting here talking about Donald Trump.

03:18:48.480 He is not even running in any of the races that are actually up for grabs tonight.

03:18:53.880 But this is the thing, he is.

03:18:55.200 Well, he's running, he is running for president.

03:18:56.800 I'm sorry, he is.

03:18:57.560 I mean, he's running for president across this entire race.

03:18:59.440 He handpicked a bunch of candidates, and they all are underperforming so far.

03:19:03.120 You cannot name a Donald Trump candidate who has overperformed so far.

03:19:05.760 Maybe Carrie Lake will? 1.00

03:19:06.580 We don't know yet.

03:19:07.380 Maybe Blake Masters will?

03:19:08.420 We don't know yet.

03:19:09.260 But those are the only two left.

03:19:10.620 And there don't, there's no rocket ships anyway, you know.

03:19:12.620 That's exactly right.

03:19:13.960 Every other candidate that he has picked is either going to lose or is going to end up in a runoff.

03:19:18.960 I like Megan better than I like any of you.

03:19:21.820 Megan, leave us with a nice thought before we have to let you get back to your evening.

03:19:25.780 Well, I'm thinking about, you know, Barack Obama, who had no coattails.

03:19:29.000 Barack Obama was very good at getting himself elected, but not so much at getting other people elected.

03:19:33.400 And Trump may be kind of in the same boat.

03:19:35.680 But the thing about Donald Trump is, look at America right now.

03:19:38.820 I know you guys, you're into policy.

03:19:40.740 You like what Ron DeSantis is doing in Florida, and I get it, you know, and I get it too.

03:19:44.940 But let's not kid ourselves.

03:19:46.480 Ron DeSantis does not have anywhere near the personality that Donald Trump does.

03:19:51.960 No one does.

03:19:53.280 No one, right?

03:19:54.580 Not any political candidate.

03:19:56.500 And his ability to use humor, to disarm people, to make fun of himself occasionally, you know, to just make people laugh.

03:20:04.300 Don't underestimate that.

03:20:05.720 That is one of the things that made Donald Trump charming in the eyes of millions of Americans who weren't even ready to vote for him.

03:20:12.160 And I will say that this is one area in which he does outshine DeSantis.

03:20:16.780 DeSantis is not like, I saw him smile tonight for like the first time.

03:20:20.920 And, you know, as a woman, I'm kind of out here and I like his policy.

03:20:23.580 And all my friends love DeSantis, don't get me wrong.

03:20:25.720 And they would definitely vote for him.

03:20:26.940 But he's not like exactly charming.

03:20:30.560 Trump has got this ability to sort of charm you and make you want to like have dinner with him and get to know him better and like have a beer with him, even though he doesn't drink, and spend time with him.

03:20:38.280 And the people who know DeSantis well have told me this is his weakness.

03:20:41.880 Like, this is the thing that the GOP is going to have to work on with him to make him a little bit more sticky, you know, so that people feel they have something to connect to.

03:20:49.900 So, look, the Republican Party, America, they'll be done with Donald Trump when they're done with Donald Trump.

03:20:55.720 And it is very possible they're not done with Donald Trump.

03:20:59.180 And it's also very possible he's the only man who can beat Joe Biden, who, believe it or not, may still be the next nominee for the Democrats.

03:21:09.200 So, anyway, it's going to work out the way it should.

03:21:11.820 And I'll give you one last thing, referring back to my earlier point.

03:21:16.220 If all hell breaks loose and the Democrats wind up losing the House and losing the Senate tonight, whoever the GOP nominee is on the Republican side will 100 percent win.

03:21:27.500 It'll be so much easier if the Dems maintain power for the next two years in a uniform way.

03:21:32.780 That's awesome.

03:21:33.620 Megyn Kelly, thank you very much for spending time with us.

03:21:36.100 See you guys.

03:21:37.500 Okay, I got a drink now.

03:21:39.600 So, Mike Cernovich, okay, who I've had disagreements with Mike Cernovich, he tweeted out 11 minutes ago,

03:21:46.100 Trump has zero shot at 2024 General after tonight.

03:21:48.500 This isn't up for debate.

03:21:49.360 Cernovich, by the way, is like, you want to talk about people who are very on the Trump train?

03:21:53.460 Mike was very on the Trump train.

03:21:55.020 I was around in 2015 when he had no chance and accurately said he'd win through biggest inauguration event in 2017.

03:21:59.620 Times change or he changed or whatever.

03:22:01.460 DeSantis in 2024 or accept total defeat.

03:22:03.420 Like, you're seeing there is a cadre of Trump supporters who are just, they would like to win.

03:22:09.260 And they're not seeing the winning.

03:22:10.880 Trump's entire brand was, I win.

03:22:12.420 And you know what?

03:22:12.980 Since 2016, he has not won.

03:22:14.640 I think you're...

03:22:15.320 He's not been a good ex-president.

03:22:16.900 I disagree with the idea that Trump, what makes him appealing is that he's charming and you want to spend time with him.

03:22:22.000 I think it's more...

03:22:23.120 I think it's exactly that, that he wins and he gets stuff done.

03:22:26.560 Right.

03:22:26.800 And that's the brand.

03:22:28.300 And if DeSantis can demonstrate that he's better at that than Trump...

03:22:31.860 I mean, I know this isn't scientific, but I put a Twitter poll up a couple days ago.

03:22:35.920 Who would make a better general election candidate?

03:22:37.940 150,000 votes.

03:22:40.520 And DeSantis was ahead 76 to 24 percent.

03:22:42.920 Now, I know it's not a scientific poll, but I mean, if I had done that same Twitter poll in 2016 on any other...

03:22:48.260 Yeah.

03:22:48.500 Trump versus any other candidate, it would have been the reverse.

03:22:50.760 I know.

03:22:51.140 I can't tell whether this is because I've purified my audience of people who only want to hear about how great Donald Trump is.

03:22:56.960 But it used to be I couldn't say anything negative about Trump without people coming down...

03:23:02.840 You're dead to me. 0.97

03:23:03.560 Yeah, you're dead to me.

03:23:05.000 Now, it's just not true anymore, especially when I've said that he's not...

03:23:09.000 You know, he was for three years a great president, a terrific president.

03:23:13.480 He's not a good ex-president.

03:23:15.120 And this thing where he picks candidates according to whether they support his Steele narrative, I don't know how widespread that is.

03:23:23.600 So the answer is to take Ron DeSantis, bronze him up, give him kind of a blonde wig, have him tie his tie a little long in the front, and then run him as Trump, but then govern as DeSantis.

03:23:36.020 Because that's really it, right?

03:23:37.460 It's almost like you want Trump to campaign for DeSantis.

03:23:41.080 That's what you really want.

03:23:42.000 It's like the ideal world.

03:23:42.980 Because DeSantis is clearly a very, very capable governor.

03:23:46.940 Also, I would like to put forward the just minority idea that it's entirely possible that he is not going to announce that he's running whenever he's set his new...

03:23:55.860 On the 15th?

03:23:56.540 Yeah.

03:23:56.940 I think that there's an above-average chance that he doesn't announce.

03:24:01.400 Yeah.

03:24:01.600 I think what he's going to do on November 15th, more likely, is say everything short of I'm running.

03:24:07.300 Yeah.

03:24:07.820 It would be like, he will essentially just give a campaign speech.

03:24:13.160 Here's what we're going to do.

03:24:15.320 You know, we're going to win.

03:24:17.540 It's going to be all...

03:24:18.020 But he won't actually say, I'm running.

03:24:20.080 And I think that it's because up until he legally declares for the presidency, he raises money through his leadership pack.

03:24:27.600 And his leadership pack, he can spend...

03:24:29.440 Yep.

03:24:29.680 That money is very fungible.

03:24:31.200 He can spend it on himself.

03:24:32.480 He can spend it on his airplane.

03:24:33.540 He can spend it on his clothes.

03:24:34.540 Because the reason, you've never seen anyone declare for the presidency within two weeks of the midterm, two years out.

03:24:43.460 No one does it.

03:24:44.280 The reason is, once you declare, all of the regulations come in on what you can do with money, on what you can do with media.

03:24:52.120 I mean, there's a real question about, is the existence of truth social an in-kind contribution?

03:24:58.260 These are all considerations he has to make when he declares.

03:25:03.100 It is not...

03:25:04.280 It would not be in anyone's interest to declare this early.

03:25:06.960 Least of all, Donald Trump, whose fundraising prowess at this stage is so enormous, whose lifestyle is so expensive.

03:25:16.580 Now, what he wants to do is clear the field right from the beginning.

03:25:19.740 He thinks if he doesn't declare now, other people are going to start getting in.

03:25:23.540 That's the thing that he wants to avoid.

03:25:24.720 But I don't know that he wants that more than he wants the money for the next 12 months.

03:25:29.520 Plus, he's a showman.

03:25:30.440 I have to just point out for me.

03:25:31.940 And the showman in him, any showman knows that ultimately the key to this is the tease, right?

03:25:37.740 That's what showmen are really selling.

03:25:39.960 They're selling this kind of ambiguity.

03:25:41.660 It's like, you think I'm going to do this?

03:25:43.220 Probably I will, but I might not.

03:25:44.880 And it keeps people interested.

03:25:46.580 He's got an incredible sense of that kind of...

03:25:48.680 He does have a good sense of timing.

03:25:49.700 And I think that if he has any brains at all when it comes to timing, which we know he does,

03:25:53.040 he's got to imagine that people are not going to be in love with him at this very instant.

03:25:58.340 Like, if he announces next week, people are going to...

03:26:00.020 There's going to be a widespread yawning and kind of an annoyance after...

03:26:04.760 Republicans are not going to be in a good mood after tonight.

03:26:07.200 Not the way this election is going.

03:26:08.720 And so the idea that what's going to put them in a good mood is Donald Trump declaring

03:26:11.040 seems quite flawed at best.

03:26:14.360 By the way, single best election analysis I've seen is it looks like Republicans ran a bunch of good...

03:26:17.860 This is from a guy named Galen Orsik.

03:26:19.840 He says, it seems like Republicans ran a bunch of good candidates in a lot of Biden double-digit seats

03:26:23.660 and came up just short, and ran crap candidates in many single-digit seats and came up short likewise.

03:26:27.880 Meaning, like, when they thought that it was close, they thought, no problem, we got this. 0.99

03:26:31.160 They ran a bunch of weak candidates.

03:26:32.280 When they thought that it was outside the margin of error, they were like,

03:26:34.720 we better run a super strong candidate in this district.

03:26:36.960 And then because it was outside margin of error, they came up just short.

03:26:38.840 That seems bad accurate to me.

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03:26:42.040 Wow.

03:26:42.320 That wasn't even an attempt at a segue.

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03:28:32.240 Drew, you and I have known each other for 10 years, and I had no idea that you knew that much about stamps.

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03:28:43.060 Gentlemen, it's good to join you again.

03:28:44.800 I think I'm here now as the cherub prince.

03:28:47.960 I'm not the god king, but I am the cherub prince.

03:28:50.160 And I've been gone now for, whatever, 20, 30 minutes.

03:28:53.820 It was pleasurable.

03:28:54.740 It was.

03:28:55.480 I thought it was kind of peaceful here.

03:28:57.120 Did we, has the tsunami taken place since I've been gone?

03:29:00.700 Not only has the tsunami not taken place, my friend, it turns out that Republicans are poised to lose another seat in North Carolina.

03:29:06.240 It was an open seat, and it looks like Republican Bo Hines was favored there, and it looks like he's about to lose to it.

03:29:10.300 Is Bo, Bo is actually a friend of mine.

03:29:12.180 Well, doesn't look like he's going to be a congressman.

03:29:14.640 And is, and Lauren is having trouble? Lauren Boebert?

03:29:17.160 Lauren Boebert is also in serious trouble in Colorado.

03:29:19.540 Gosh.

03:29:19.900 There is actually a not insignificant possibility that Republicans do not take the House, which would just be unbelievable.

03:29:28.200 Right now, the famed New York Times needle still says that the Republicans have a 75% shot in retaining control of the House.

03:29:36.380 The chance of winning Senate control is starting to lean toward the Democrats.

03:29:41.220 That was a 93% shot at the beginning of the night.

03:29:43.960 So all these elections, there are a lot of elections that should not be going in the Democrat direction that are going in the Democrat direction.

03:29:49.520 I'm also seeing reported by Daily Wire, so, you know, take it with a grain of salt.

03:29:53.480 But I just saw on Twitter that Dr. Oz plans to address supporters momentarily.

03:29:58.360 I did see that.

03:29:58.840 And so he's down right now.

03:30:01.080 He's down.

03:30:01.560 It's not, he's not down by a ton, but he's down by a significant margin with a lot, with 77%, I think, of the votes in now.

03:30:09.480 That's going to be the talk of the town tomorrow, I assume, if Dr. Oz loses to a man with brain damage.

03:30:15.320 I mean, that will be the headline, right?

03:30:16.600 But what about Tudor Dixon versus Gretchen Whitmer?

03:30:20.100 I haven't seen any results there yet.

03:30:21.720 I do have one piece of good news, because since I've been like Debbie Downer all night, it started off real positive, and then it just has been all one direction since.

03:30:28.780 One piece of good news is that the Republicans flipped New York 17, 18, 19.

03:30:33.040 17, baby! 0.98

03:30:34.040 All right, good night.

03:30:35.820 I'm just, I'm so happy.

03:30:38.060 I worked that race where Sean Maloney beat, kicked out my good Republican friend, Nan Hayworth, and then he just took it over, and he's just this slimy Clinton Democrat.

03:30:47.940 And then he took over the Democrat Congressional Committee, and he's out.

03:30:51.400 The guy who planned the Democrats' House strategy, boom, lost his own seat.

03:30:56.120 That's a huge win.

03:30:57.420 They flipped New York 17, 18, 19.

03:30:59.800 Awesome.

03:31:00.240 And they flipped Iowa 3. 0.94

03:31:01.780 Democrats flipped Ohio 1, and they won that open North Carolina seat.

03:31:06.120 I was just talking about Zeldin is done against Hochul.

03:31:08.580 But Zeldin's performance did lift those up.

03:31:10.880 Yes, he did.

03:31:11.520 He did.

03:31:11.900 That was sort of the...

03:31:13.180 That was kind of the idea.

03:31:14.320 Yeah, that's exactly right.

03:31:15.460 So you can win almost anywhere if you've got a good candidate, good ground game, discipline on the message, good messaging.

03:31:22.160 You know, we were talking earlier about the media, how every candidate who was kind of a shaky candidate in the Tea Party days put together real shaky ads.

03:31:30.040 You know, you have to be able to tell people what you're about. 0.82

03:31:33.880 I think one thing that's worth noting here is that also, you know, there have been a lot of elections where a bunch of crap Republicans kind of got swept into the House on these giant waves.

03:31:42.420 Here I'm thinking about 2010 where Republicans picked up 63 seats famously.

03:31:45.360 The baseline of them winning the 63 seats before that is that they had like 170 seats in the House.

03:31:51.600 They ended up with a majority of about 230 after that 63-seat swing.

03:31:56.860 And so what that meant is that necessarily it was almost regression to the mean for the Democrats.

03:32:02.200 The Democrats had an oversized majority.

03:32:03.880 And so when the Republicans came in and they took 60 seats, they ended up with 230-odd seats.

03:32:07.960 If Republicans end up with a bare majority, this is what I was saying at the beginning of the night as far as the red trickle, when Republicans end up winning 15, 20 seats, they still end up with the majority.

03:32:16.540 What that means is that they're actually in territory where it's a little harder to win those seats.

03:32:20.560 Yeah, it's that simple.

03:32:21.000 Meaning that the regression, it doesn't exist as much, right?

03:32:23.260 You're not talking about Democrats existing in R-plus-10 districts.

03:32:27.120 You're talking about Democrats existing in D-plus-3 districts or R-plus-3 districts.

03:32:32.180 And it's harder to win in those districts.

03:32:33.560 You have to run better candidates.

03:32:34.620 And so Republicans were running as though it was going to be an easy election because of the size of the wave.

03:32:39.860 But simple stats would suggest that it actually wasn't that.

03:32:42.380 They weren't going to get 40 seats.

03:32:43.380 They weren't going to get 50 seats even at the outside.

03:32:45.680 Like a great night would have been them getting 30 seats.

03:32:47.580 I don't think they're going to hit that.

03:32:48.960 They may not hit 20 at this rate.

03:32:50.180 I mean, there wasn't a single, I don't think there was a single Democrat Senate candidate running in a place where Trump won.

03:32:58.420 I think they had all of, they were all on their own, on their home territory.

03:33:02.020 Yeah, that's right.

03:33:02.680 That's right.

03:33:03.460 There's 14, 14 of the Republicans were running in Biden's states.

03:33:07.080 But big Latino shifts and some black shifts.

03:33:09.460 So we've said earlier that those appear to be people who are running from the Democratic Party,

03:33:14.600 not so much running toward the Republican Party,

03:33:16.180 but certainly significant numbers of people tonight voted Republican either for the first time in their lives

03:33:20.680 or for the first time in a long time.

03:33:22.480 So how do you hold on to those people?

03:33:24.360 You know, if they're running away from what the Democratic Party has become, that's nice.

03:33:29.800 But it would be especially nice if we had something to present to them that would...

03:33:34.220 You know, it would be a mistake, by the way.

03:33:36.240 DeSantis, no doubt, a competent, you know, highly competent governor.

03:33:41.540 But he did some very bold social moves.

03:33:44.540 I mean, this Disney thing.

03:33:45.500 Yeah, man.

03:33:46.460 And when he did that thing with Disney, the Republicans were whining about it.

03:33:50.740 I don't know.

03:33:51.120 Oh, man, no.

03:33:51.540 And I thought, no, this is a good move.

03:33:53.780 I agreed that it was a good move.

03:33:55.900 The thing about DeSantis is that he had established such unbelievable credibility with the public in Florida

03:34:00.740 that they were willing to go along with him in picking social issues.

03:34:04.800 It didn't look like a distraction from his governance.

03:34:06.580 It looked like an addition to his governance.

03:34:08.480 Very often what you'll see from politicians...

03:34:09.720 That's what I'm saying. 0.99

03:34:10.140 Yeah, very often you'll see from politicians, like, I'm doing a crap job governing. 0.97

03:34:13.220 Therefore, here's a red meat issue. 0.91

03:34:15.120 And they just throw it out there.

03:34:16.120 You see it from Democrats with abortion.

03:34:17.680 You see it from Republicans sometimes on sort of fringe things that are considered fringe social issues.

03:34:22.320 For DeSantis, it was part and parcel of his broader agenda, which is, I stand with parents.

03:34:26.960 And that was built on top of the, I'm not going to force you to mask your kids.

03:34:30.260 I'm not going to take your kids out of school.

03:34:31.800 I'm going to make sure that your kids aren't forced to get a vac.

03:34:33.820 I'm going to do all of these things for you.

03:34:36.000 And on top of that, I'm going to make sure your kids aren't indoctrinated.

03:34:38.320 And he did.

03:34:38.960 And he did.

03:34:39.660 And that's why, again, they would do these polls in Florida.

03:34:42.820 And the National Democrats would be like, this is so crazy.

03:34:45.400 It's so radical.

03:34:45.920 And then they'd poll these issues in Florida.

03:34:47.160 And they'd find these were actually real popular issues in Florida.

03:34:49.980 But it's a different thing when Ron DeSantis, very competent governor who's able to handle a hurricane, does it.

03:34:55.460 Versus when Doug Mastriano, quasi-crazy person, apparently, does it in Pennsylvania.

03:35:00.720 When Doug Mastriano campaigns on that, people are like, well, yeah, but that's also attached to, like, all this other stuff that you're saying over here.

03:35:08.000 It's an adjunct to sort of the main event.

03:35:11.800 But to Bill's point, you know, the press, whatever you do as a Republican, the press are going to ask you,

03:35:16.980 well, what about a 12-year-old girl who gets pregnant when she's raped by her father? 0.77

03:35:21.740 Right.

03:35:21.960 And they're going to ask you those questions.

03:35:23.860 And I think that those are the things every Republican, he gets that question.

03:35:28.400 Anybody could have told me he was going to get that question.

03:35:30.080 And they're all like, yeah, you know.

03:35:32.200 And you have to have a holistic approach.

03:35:34.440 You're absolutely right about this, Ben.

03:35:36.280 We have no argument about the competence issue.

03:35:38.480 And I think it's everything with a politician.

03:35:40.620 These guys aren't supposed to be executives.

03:35:43.280 They're supposed to run things.

03:35:44.440 You know, they're supposed to run the thing that they're given.

03:35:47.120 But you have to have a holistic, a visionary kind of approach.

03:35:50.240 This is where I think that the – I keep coming back to the same theme of competence because I think that the Democrats' pitch on democracy doesn't hold.

03:35:56.600 And it wasn't going to hold.

03:35:58.120 Yeah. 0.97

03:35:58.540 But the one thing it did is it made some people in the Republican Party look clownish. 0.93

03:36:02.860 And when you're able to make the other party look clownish – 0.90

03:36:05.400 It's always good.

03:36:05.920 It's a very positive thing for your own party, right?

03:36:09.100 The whole art of politics is make it very difficult to vote for your opponent and make it very easy to vote for you.

03:36:13.100 Yeah.

03:36:13.260 And the Democrats did not make it easy to vote for themselves.

03:36:17.120 But they did make it kind of hard to vote for some of the Republicans, right?

03:36:19.820 They did a fairly good job at labeling some of the Republicans.

03:36:21.780 And the Republicans did a good job of falling right into those boxes sometimes in competitive House races, in a lot of these Senate races.

03:36:29.280 And Republicans need to understand that it's easy to make it hard to vote for the Democrats.

03:36:34.240 That part's the easy part because what they're doing is so crazy and so nutty.

03:36:37.540 But you actually have to make it really easy to vote for you.

03:36:40.240 And what makes it easy to vote for you is that you appear as though you can do the job.

03:36:44.600 You don't appear as though your chief mechanism is attention-getting.

03:36:48.920 Or mean.

03:36:49.780 Or mean.

03:36:50.420 Or mean.

03:36:51.020 Like when Carrie Lake deferred to that woman whose son had died. 0.99

03:36:54.240 I'm not going to –

03:36:55.340 I agree.

03:36:55.800 You can even outlast some of the sort of more fringy positions that are perceived, like the election stuff from Carrie Lake.

03:37:02.300 You can outlive that if you are perceived as not mean, if you are perceived as baseline competent.

03:37:06.740 Ronald Reagan, you could hate everything Reagan stood for, but it's virtually impossible to hate the guy because he just didn't carry any venom with him.

03:37:13.420 You know, it just – it was just clearly a good-natured guy.

03:37:16.320 I mean, that's the Oz campaign.

03:37:17.840 So the Oz campaign is not about anything other than he just appeared feckless.

03:37:22.660 Yeah.

03:37:22.820 He appeared incompetent, right?

03:37:24.000 He was getting hit with crudité and –

03:37:26.220 He couldn't pronounce them in the groceries.

03:37:26.940 And your houses in Pennsylvania.

03:37:28.660 And he wasn't super well-versed on the issues.

03:37:31.480 And Fetterman's a – I mean, just put aside his physical condition. 0.99

03:37:35.180 The dude's a clown. 1.00

03:37:36.140 He's a lifelong clown. 1.00

03:37:37.280 I mean, like he's been, as I've said before, a career useless person who's been living on his parents' money while being mayor of a city that has 1,800 people in it. 0.99

03:37:45.060 Okay?

03:37:45.380 Literally, my HOA has more people than John Fetterman's city that he was mayor of.

03:37:49.920 If I were mayor of my HOA, I would have –

03:37:52.000 Doesn't it conflict with your point, though?

03:37:54.460 I mean, why are they able to run a clown and win?

03:37:57.060 Oz had no – he also had – what was his campaign about?

03:38:00.800 It had no message.

03:38:01.660 That's the answer.

03:38:03.280 A lot of these Republicans, that's the question, what is your campaign actually about?

03:38:08.760 What's the national message of the Republican Party?

03:38:11.320 Well, so this ties into this question of leadership.

03:38:14.160 And we all know tomorrow – well, we know that we're going to get one presidential candidate next week.

03:38:18.400 But the question is, who is the kingmaker?

03:38:20.300 So just before I came on, I overheard the chatter about, you know, Trump as kingmaker seems to be weakening because some of his candidates didn't do very well.

03:38:29.980 Then that raises the question, is DeSantis the kingmaker?

03:38:33.320 DeSantis' pick in Colorado, who Trump snubbed, he lost, Joe Odea – I don't even know how to pronounce the guy's name.

03:38:39.820 It wasn't DeSantis' pick.

03:38:41.040 We're all –

03:38:41.320 But he endorsed him, and Trump wouldn't endorse him.

03:38:43.460 We're all talking about –

03:38:44.280 Wait, so DeSantis – so your case, in favor of Donald Trump being good at endorsing people –

03:38:48.740 No, no, no, I'm not making that case at all.

03:38:50.300 Celebrated the loss of a Democrat – of a Republican –

03:38:52.560 No, no, no, but I'm not making that case at all.

03:38:53.940 I'm just saying that we've said here on the show, Donald Trump is kingmaker.

03:38:58.940 He's done.

03:38:59.760 So then the question is, who's the kingmaker?

03:39:01.740 The next natural person would be Ron DeSantis.

03:39:04.680 But one of the picks where Ron DeSantis diverged from Donald Trump was this race in Colorado.

03:39:09.860 That guy lost, too.

03:39:10.940 So is DeSantis the kingmaker?

03:39:12.640 Is someone else the kingmaker?

03:39:14.020 He's the governor of a state.

03:39:15.100 In his state, he cleaned the hell up.

03:39:16.720 I think the fact that we're having this conversation is an indication for why we don't win as much as we should.

03:39:22.160 Because we're talking about candidates, and we're not talking about the message.

03:39:25.420 We're talking about which person, what person.

03:39:27.620 Without questioning your points about you have to have effective candidates, yes. 0.64

03:39:32.320 But ultimately, if you think about it, if you look at the Democratic Party, you have Fetterman who's got serious brain impairment.

03:39:39.860 So does Dianne Feinstein.

03:39:41.120 So does Nancy Pelosi.

03:39:42.420 So does Joe Biden. 1.00

03:39:43.660 Kamala Harris was just born stupid. 1.00

03:39:45.620 But people continue to vote for them because they're not voting for them. 1.00

03:39:49.960 They're voting for the message.

03:39:50.960 They're voting for what that thing is.

03:39:52.780 They know what it is, and they vote for it.

03:39:55.080 And they vote for it despite the fact that they're voting for Joe Biden.

03:39:59.600 There's nobody out there thinking Joe Biden's awesome.

03:40:01.640 They're voting for Biden because of what his message is.

03:40:06.040 I happen to disagree with that message, but I know what it is.

03:40:09.200 If you say woke policy to me, I know exactly what that means.

03:40:13.700 How would you describe Republican policy?

03:40:16.320 What would you say?

03:40:18.220 Yeah, well, different races are different, but I guess that's why I'm asking this question.

03:40:21.940 What's the national message?

03:40:23.000 Well, it diverges, and you're seeing that play out in different races.

03:40:25.740 But that's why I'm asking the question about leadership.

03:40:27.760 So looking, forget about even the presidential contest, just who is leading the Republican Party?

03:40:33.100 You remember after George Bush, the Democrats had this line.

03:40:37.640 They said, Rush Limbaugh is the de facto leader of the Republican Party.

03:40:41.700 And, you know, Rush was fabulous, but that was just a campaign line from Democrats.

03:40:45.780 So I'm just, that is my question.

03:40:47.580 Well, DeSantis doesn't have to be kingmaker because he's the governor.

03:40:50.000 I mean, that should be Trump because he's not currently in office.

03:40:53.400 That's typically he'd be fulfilling that role.

03:40:55.860 But if he's not, then who is?

03:40:57.720 Well, maybe there isn't one.

03:40:58.800 But I think one of the problems the Republicans have is that, right, to your point, I mean,

03:41:03.960 with a lot of these Democrats, at least from the public perception side of it,

03:41:08.100 they know what their candidates are about.

03:41:10.660 And even if they seem to be kind of crazy, they sort of believe what they're saying.

03:41:13.700 I mean, I think with Republicans, the public perception is that there are more Republican

03:41:18.720 politicians or candidates who are just kind of out there saying stuff.

03:41:22.900 And they're just, that's all they're doing.

03:41:24.580 Like, like Oz is a perfect example of just a guy out there just saying whatever.

03:41:28.680 And I think the Republicans have more of that.

03:41:31.780 At least the public perceives the Republican Party has more of that.

03:41:35.040 Also, there was also a timing issue.

03:41:37.140 So in the Oz race, if you actually watch the dynamics of the Oz race, 0.53

03:41:39.800 Fetterman opened this massive lead early, huge lead on Oz, like right out of the gate.

03:41:44.700 And the reason is because he spent a lot of money attacking Oz and wrecking him right out the gate.

03:41:51.220 Right. Like the campaign opened.

03:41:52.500 He was like, I'm going to label Oz.

03:41:53.880 You watch Oz's unfavorables go just sky high almost immediately.

03:41:57.260 And so then Oz spends the rest of the race trying to drag himself back into the race.

03:42:01.700 So the question is, you know, why are people voting for Fetterman?

03:42:04.520 The answer is they weren't.

03:42:05.260 They were voting against Oz because this is a mistake that Republicans routinely make, by the way.

03:42:08.740 Trump doesn't make this.

03:42:09.640 This is the one thing where, like Trump actually, he'll never let anybody wreck him before he wrecks them.

03:42:13.900 He plays bumper cars really well.

03:42:16.100 And so if he feels even the threat of somebody, this is why he's preempting DeSantis right now.

03:42:20.620 He immediately goes out there and he hits them first.

03:42:23.060 But Republicans have a nasty habit of thinking, don't worry, people don't pay attention until the last month of the election.

03:42:28.520 And that's when I'll claw my way back in.

03:42:30.300 And by that point, you're trying to recharacterize your own candidacy.

03:42:32.880 And if you're a bad candidate, it's impossible to recharacterize your own candidacy.

03:42:35.740 I maintain that this entire discussion is tactics.

03:42:38.100 And I'm talking strategy.

03:42:40.360 That's fair.

03:42:40.900 Tens of millions of people voted for Joe Biden because they love Bobby Kennedy.

03:42:46.160 Right?

03:42:47.100 That's the answer.

03:42:48.460 They're voting for Joe Biden because of the love that they had for Bobby Kennedy.

03:42:52.280 And that message has been consistent.

03:42:55.840 It's diverged, but it's been consistent.

03:42:57.960 You said, well, the messaging is kind of varying depending on the candidate.

03:43:00.560 Well, it shouldn't, right?

03:43:02.220 It shouldn't.

03:43:03.000 There is a cause that we all believe in that the reason we're sitting in these chairs.

03:43:07.120 But there's a big difference between, you know, Oz runs a chamber of commerce race.

03:43:11.260 I'm going to lower your taxes and sell the culture down the river. 1.00

03:43:13.880 And J.D. Vance and Blake Masters run these extremely cultural, nationally minded, pro-family campaigns.

03:43:21.700 And who knows?

03:43:22.380 Blake right now doesn't seem to be doing very well.

03:43:24.060 J.D. obviously won the race.

03:43:25.060 So, but those messages are quite divergent.

03:43:28.540 Yeah, but mourning in America with Ronald Reagan in 84, your 5,000 votes, a complete sweep, everything.

03:43:36.220 And you've got make America great again in 2016.

03:43:39.420 These are positive messages and they're clear.

03:43:42.520 We know what it means.

03:43:43.500 They're not policy messages.

03:43:45.540 They're virtually spiritual messages, right?

03:43:47.980 This is the key to victory.

03:43:50.780 And all you have to do is just look at the scoreboard.

03:43:52.240 You look at the electoral map for Reagan's two wins, right?

03:43:56.340 It's unbelievable.

03:43:57.960 And it's because he came out here, he came into the race with very few negatives compared to Trump.

03:44:03.820 He wasn't nearly as annoying as Trump could be.

03:44:06.180 But mostly he came out with, I have a vision for America that's a better place.

03:44:11.800 He didn't come out running against Hubert Humphrey or Johnson or Carter.

03:44:16.080 He didn't even be running against him.

03:44:16.940 Basically, Carter wasn't even there.

03:44:18.300 It's like, you've had your chance.

03:44:19.400 He came out with this, it's morning in America.

03:44:22.040 We can always renew this nation.

03:44:23.800 It's not the end of our days.

03:44:25.500 It's not our finest hour.

03:44:26.580 We're just getting started.

03:44:27.760 And that resonated with everybody, everybody.

03:44:31.540 And so there are people who are still voting Republican because of how much they love Ronald Reagan.

03:44:35.240 And the thing about Donald Trump is he has the ability to generate tremendous excitement because people believe he's not beholden to anybody.

03:44:45.100 And I believe that, too, certainly.

03:44:47.420 But the one thing that seems to be missing is that kind of almost like that happy warrior commitment to the sunrise instead of this kind of sniping at people.

03:44:57.600 Well, I mean, sort of the locus of his attention is not the principle.

03:45:00.600 The locus of attention is him.

03:45:02.160 It's him all.

03:45:02.640 And in 2016, it seemed like it was more to principle because he actually got caught up in it.

03:45:06.680 And I think that since then, since 2020 particularly, because of the election, I think that the locus of attention has been inward focused.

03:45:12.560 And it's been a real problem for him.

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03:46:33.480 That's a great thing to do online.

03:46:35.580 Another great thing to do online, peruse social media, though sometimes it makes us pull our hair out.

03:46:40.860 So fortunately, we have two lovely ladies doing it for us. 1.00

03:46:43.960 Ladies, what's going on on the Twitters, etc?

03:46:46.360 Okay, guys.

03:46:47.740 Obviously, this red wave is not necessarily going exactly as we thought it would.

03:46:52.820 But I can't say that the Dems are all that happy about it online.

03:46:56.840 No, because as we know, you can never please the left.

03:46:59.460 They will always be angry about something.

03:47:01.120 You can never please the mob.

03:47:02.120 So this Twitter account, I'm not sure if it's a troll or not, but this just caught my attention, says,

03:47:08.240 As a gender-fluid lesbian, I do not feel safe living in the U.S.

03:47:12.400 This is why I always carry a knife with me.

03:47:15.480 I still can't decide whether or not to move to Canada or Sweden, but at least those two are better than here.

03:47:21.240 Which, okay, again, this could be a troll, but the fact that...

03:47:24.420 The fact that we don't know is the scary part.

03:47:26.580 Unbelievable.

03:47:27.480 Unbelievable.

03:47:27.640 There's also something else that I found that was sort of appalling, but it was interesting.

03:47:31.240 At a polling station, this is what it looked like.

03:47:34.280 And if you see this picture, it's just a bunch of rainbow flags.

03:47:36.320 And I feel like there's one, I don't know, there's one flag that seems to be missing from this photo.

03:47:39.920 And it's just crazy thinking about the Georgia voting laws and the fact that, like, campaigns couldn't give people, you know, water, and yet this is allowed.

03:47:47.300 Yes.

03:47:47.660 And speaking of Georgia, there was something funny that Stacey Abrams posted, which is this.

03:47:52.300 Little Miss future governor of the great state of Georgia.

03:47:54.800 R.I.P.

03:47:55.280 And then, swipe, seems kind of reminiscent of something else we saw a couple years ago.

03:47:59.460 Happy birthday to this future president.

03:48:01.960 Both of which didn't end up turning out in their favor.

03:48:04.380 So tough.

03:48:05.080 So tough.

03:48:06.320 But I feel like there was one thing that we really need to talk about tonight.

03:48:09.200 This stood out above them all.

03:48:11.200 Thankfully, Comfortably Smug made us aware of it.

03:48:14.640 LOL.

03:48:15.280 New York Times telling Dems to literally breathe like a baby to cope.

03:48:19.720 To cope.

03:48:20.480 And we should walk through a few of these quick steps because we find it incredibly interesting.

03:48:24.100 Thank you, New York Times, also, just for helping me through this evening.

03:48:27.520 So their first tip is to try five-finger breathing.

03:48:32.180 Trace the outside of your hand with your pointer finger.

03:48:35.340 When you trace up, breathe in.

03:48:37.560 When you trace down, breathe out.

03:48:40.120 You can't make this stuff up.

03:48:41.480 They also said cool down.

03:48:42.840 Plunge your face into a bowl with ice water for 15 to 30 seconds.

03:48:46.200 You should get a bowl of ice.

03:48:48.060 Guys, remember the ice bucket challenge?

03:48:50.420 That's what New York Times is asking you to do.

03:48:52.520 They're telling us to move, to walk around.

03:48:54.420 This is my favorite one.

03:48:55.420 Breathe like a baby.

03:48:56.260 What does that mean?

03:48:57.620 They elaborate.

03:48:59.060 Focus on expanding your belly as you breathe, which can send more oxygen to your brain.

03:49:03.640 See, this is the difference between the left and the right, is that things might go our

03:49:07.580 way or might not go exactly, you know, as we planned, and yet I can still breathe.

03:49:12.240 Yeah.

03:49:12.660 We don't need a step-by-step on how to function.

03:49:15.040 And then it says, limit your scrolling.

03:49:17.620 Consider plotting out specific times when you will look for election updates.

03:49:21.860 Yes.

03:49:22.380 So apparently spending too much time on Twitter is not necessarily a good thing, according

03:49:26.500 to New York Times.

03:49:27.300 Apparently not.

03:49:28.760 Which is good for us.

03:49:30.080 We should probably step away from our screens for a little bit, and we'll send it back to you

03:49:33.200 guys after a short commercial.

03:49:35.400 Last night.

03:49:40.100 We're fighting for people who cannot fight for themselves and shouldn't have to. 0.99

03:49:43.480 Public schools covered up the rape of a 14-year-old girl at the hands of a boy wearing a skirt.

03:49:48.240 They arrested the father of the victim.

03:49:50.120 Students are being exposed to pornography in schools. 0.98

03:49:53.260 One book describes a fourth-grade boy performing oral sex on an adult male. 1.00

03:49:57.740 The transgender stuff, it's just demonic. 1.00

03:50:00.000 We are talking about things they don't want to talk about. 0.99

03:50:02.320 A man cannot become a woman. 1.00

03:50:05.960 A woman cannot become a man. 1.00

03:50:07.220 Gender-affirming health care is a euphemism.

03:50:09.000 It's taking your sex and it is denying it. 0.99

03:50:10.420 It's pretending your sex does not exist. 0.97

03:50:11.760 It was about four years ago when I first posed the question, what is a woman?

03:50:16.080 What is a woman? 1.00

03:50:17.020 What is a woman? 1.00

03:50:17.780 That's a great question.

03:50:20.560 We have exposed to Vanderbilt's child mutilation practices.

03:50:23.880 We're going to pass this bill and it's going to be illegal in this state.

03:50:26.660 That's going to happen.

03:50:27.540 We have made sexual indoctrination of children and medical child abuse enormous national issues.

03:50:34.180 We're not going to rest until every child is protected from this madness.

03:50:39.480 I think there are a lot of different things that President Trump did for the country that will be long remembered.

03:50:56.920 making America energy independent and putting pressure on other countries to step up.

03:51:04.080 He said some crazy stuff during the campaign.

03:51:06.680 I thought there's no way in hell this guy's going to be president of the United States.

03:51:10.460 People did not know what to expect.

03:51:12.060 Because remember, you're the first president in U.S. history to have zero political experience.

03:51:17.480 Observe, protect, and defend.

03:51:19.120 American energy that's helping make our economy the envy of the world. 0.65

03:51:23.500 President Trump represented an existential threat to the corrupt political class.

03:51:30.700 This is the moment.

03:51:32.400 This is a major turning point moment.

03:51:35.480 Why do you keep calling this the Chinese virus?

03:51:38.400 It comes from China.

03:51:40.440 These are acts of domestic terror.

03:51:44.000 It was the most consequential presidency.

03:51:47.320 Stay loose.

03:51:48.060 Be cool.

03:51:50.000 Watch what's going to happen.

03:51:58.540 And we're back.

03:51:59.820 We're happy to be here joining you for our 2022 election coverage here at The Daily Wire.

03:52:04.040 That's an overstatement.

03:52:04.880 It goes on and on and on and on.

03:52:07.700 Here where we are in Middle Tennessee, it's after 11 o'clock, I think, and we're trying to decide how long do we go.

03:52:15.080 Some of these votes may not be counted tonight.

03:52:16.760 But I haven't given you all the bad news.

03:52:18.200 Would you like more bad news?

03:52:19.560 I've got plenty of it.

03:52:20.680 Ben has lots of dour news for us.

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03:53:20.940 It really is a remarkable thing.

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03:54:48.180 You've seen it with the work Matt's been doing, even at the Statehouse a month ago with his Stop the Mutilation rally.

03:54:56.300 I mean, we are, there's teeth to what we're doing.

03:54:59.380 It's not just vanity.

03:55:00.460 Although, some of it is just my own vanity.

03:55:04.420 I will confess that every now and then you start a razor company just so you can feel like a really cool guy.

03:55:11.360 Fight back against the SOBs over at Harry's. 0.93

03:55:14.420 Tonight's not going exactly the way that we had all hoped.

03:55:17.000 We thought maybe at the beginning of the night there could be. 0.99

03:55:19.040 It sucks, man. 1.00

03:55:19.120 It just sucks. 1.00

03:55:20.140 It sucks. 1.00

03:55:21.640 You know, to be, I'm not going to be the voice of optimism. 0.95

03:55:25.640 But, you know, if we do take the House, even if it's by three seats.

03:55:31.420 And I know, the fact that we have to say if is crazy.

03:55:33.700 Yeah, it's crazy.

03:55:34.600 This is nuts.

03:55:35.300 And I don't think, I mean, the Senate, we could still take the Senate.

03:55:39.360 And even if we take them both by one seat, that is a big win and that actually does impede Joe Biden.

03:55:45.200 And it's not what we wanted, but.

03:55:47.460 So what if we lose?

03:55:48.340 Is that also a big win?

03:55:50.160 Losing is not winning.

03:55:51.200 I would like to push back in a negative direction for a change.

03:55:55.340 You know, because I was listening to Megan and she's a really smart lady. 0.99

03:55:59.340 She really is incisive when she's talking about these things.

03:56:02.200 But, you know, these guys, the Democrats need to be rebuked.

03:56:06.860 And they're not going to be rebuked in the way they should have been.

03:56:09.540 And I don't really know.

03:56:11.060 I think, yeah, part of that is badly picked, some badly picked candidates.

03:56:14.680 But I don't know if that's the whole story.

03:56:16.200 I think that there is just a confusion and a division in the Republican Party that is not ready for the fight at hand. 0.99

03:56:24.500 These guys, everything the Democrats touch turns to crap. 0.99

03:56:28.060 Every single thing they put their fingers on gets worse. 1.00

03:56:30.780 This has been true for 60, 70 years.

03:56:33.040 They, you know, who's a Jason Riley wrote that book about blacks saying, please stop helping us. 0.66

03:56:40.240 You know, I think we could all say that to the Democrats.

03:56:42.240 Please stop helping us.

03:56:43.480 You know, just leave us alone because you make everything worse.

03:56:45.540 And yet, and yet, the electorate has not rebuked them in the manner they've deserved.

03:56:52.000 And I think that that's a bad thing.

03:56:53.680 I mean, I think that, like, I think we're still going to take the House.

03:56:57.040 I think we have a chance at the Senate.

03:56:58.740 It's going to be a lot less in the House than it's probably going to be your trickle numbers.

03:57:03.320 I mean, it's like right now.

03:57:04.740 Yeah.

03:57:04.980 We're talking like they're forecasting seven seats.

03:57:08.640 Maybe, yeah.

03:57:09.360 Seven seats, less than ten seats.

03:57:11.420 I think it's going to be more than ten.

03:57:13.500 Well, it's the job of the Republicans to articulate what that rebuke is supposed to be exactly.

03:57:17.080 I agree with you.

03:57:17.880 And they didn't do that.

03:57:19.160 And to go back to what we were saying before, it really comes down to what is your message?

03:57:24.220 What's the Republican Party's message?

03:57:25.560 What does it stand for?

03:57:26.460 These candidates, what do they stand for?

03:57:27.960 And I just, the curse of the Republican Party has been this way for years now, is these candidates, you listen to them talk, and I just don't, I don't, they're just saying things.

03:57:38.800 I don't believe that they believe anything they're saying.

03:57:41.160 They're just sort of talking at random and, you know, picking up talking points, whatever works, and they say it.

03:57:47.660 I mean, of course, that's, all politicians do that to a certain extent.

03:57:49.900 Yeah, Biden, Schumer, Pelosi.

03:57:51.520 I mean, that's true of them, too, I think.

03:57:53.100 It's worse than the Republicans, I think.

03:57:56.600 And, you know, I go back, I always go back to the fact that, you know, the GOP hated Reagan.

03:58:01.940 They didn't want him.

03:58:03.020 The minute he was gone, I mean, obviously Bush was vice president, but they kind of pushed Bush on him to begin with, and he got this mediocrity.

03:58:09.240 I mean, the Bushes, both Bushes were good people.

03:58:13.100 I like them personally, but they were not conservatives.

03:58:16.160 As Buckley said, they were conservative, but they were not a conservative.

03:58:20.640 Yeah, right.

03:58:21.120 And that made all the difference.

03:58:23.100 And I think that, you know, when you think about the Mitt Rom, the John McCains, and the Jeb Bushes, who they would have run if they could have, this is a party without a vision, without any real goal that they're trying to get.

03:58:35.680 It's like the Tories in England.

03:58:37.040 They're just playing to do not lose good.

03:58:38.740 I want to push back a tiny bit with a question.

03:58:42.020 There is a question that we haven't asked since the mood turned dour.

03:58:45.440 And that is, what role, if any, was played by, in the last week of this campaign, Donald Trump reasserted himself in a major way into the national conversation.

03:58:57.500 He started attacking Ron DeSantis.

03:59:00.200 He held a giant rally last night, which, you know, everyone from Benny Johnson to Seb Gorka was intimating would be him announcing for the presidency on the eve of the election, which makes a voter.

03:59:16.800 Maybe it's one of these young...

03:59:18.000 He leaked to Axios a week ago that he's going to announce, so we know he's announcing.

03:59:21.500 It's just a question of, like, which day he's doing it.

03:59:23.060 He thrusts himself back into the conversation at a time when this election should not have in any way been by him.

03:59:29.260 Did that have an impact on what's actually happening to that?

03:59:33.600 But of course it doesn't.

03:59:35.040 I think that, I don't know, I think he might pay a price for that.

03:59:38.560 I think that he is, you know, I thought for three years he was one of the best presidents of my lifetime.

03:59:43.940 I really did.

03:59:44.520 I thought he did wonderful things.

03:59:46.460 If he'd only overturned, appointed the justices who overturned Roe, he would have been in the Hall of Fame for me.

03:59:52.620 But even so, he was better than that.

03:59:54.260 He did really good things.

03:59:56.300 He did, he was, could be incredibly annoying, but he was really terrific, and I celebrated him.

04:00:02.220 After he lost that election, and you're right, it seems to drive people crazy.

04:00:06.740 I mean, you know, Al Gore started to think the world was going to end and sold that.

04:00:10.960 I met Mike Dukakis once in college.

04:00:12.880 This was, what, decades after he lost?

04:00:15.460 And we weren't even going to ask him about that race in 92.

04:00:19.140 Within five minutes he brought it up.

04:00:20.840 And it was angry as though it happened the day before.

04:00:23.260 Jimmy Carter is still an angry man.

04:00:25.180 You can see it.

04:00:25.800 There's a lot of that rage.

04:00:27.040 You know, it's obviously a tough thing, but a guy with his ego, with Trump's ego, I think it's just absolutely transformative.

04:00:34.560 And it has transformed him from an egotist to an utter egotist, you know.

04:00:39.340 I mean, he was always about himself, but now he's not about anything else.

04:00:42.760 I think it's dangerous. 1.00

04:00:43.780 Okay, so this football team sucks. 0.99

04:00:45.360 Okay, let's put it this way. 0.99

04:00:46.340 And some coaches need to be fired.

04:00:48.200 Yeah.

04:00:48.580 So are we going to fire some coaches or not?

04:00:50.340 I mean, that's really what the Republican Party is going to have to ask itself.

04:00:52.880 And I don't just mean Trump here.

04:00:53.780 I mean, like, where's the House leadership?

04:00:56.060 Yeah.

04:00:56.260 Okay, Kevin McCarthy led a House that had 212 seats into an election with a historically unpopular president and an economy that's in the middle of an incipient recession and a 40-year high in inflation.

04:01:08.220 And he's going to pick up less than 10 seats.

04:01:11.020 Does he need to get, like, where's the leadership class of the Republican Party?

04:01:15.660 It does not exist.

04:01:16.900 And the one place it does exist, the Republicans did really, really well.

04:01:20.080 Right?

04:01:20.560 And so the question is, where's the leadership class of the National Republican Party?

04:01:25.300 Donald Trump is not the leader of the National Republican Party because the only thing that he leads is Donald Trump.

04:01:29.720 He's not leading the Republican Party because he's not interested in the Republican Party.

04:01:32.220 He's literally tweeting out against a candidate in his own party who lost and attacking members of his own party in the middle of election cycles who are not sufficiently bending the knee to him.

04:01:42.440 So he's clearly not the leader of the Republican Party in any real sense, in the sense that a coach is a person who leads the team onto the field so that they achieve victory as a team.

04:01:49.360 That's not something that Trump is interested in.

04:01:51.100 He's interested in him.

04:01:52.260 And if there's some sort of ancillary victory that the team achieves, great.

04:01:56.060 But the other thing to remember is Donald Trump in 2016 was not a Republican in any—

04:02:02.360 Again, I mean, he took—it was a hostile takeover of the party.

04:02:04.580 This is not a moral critique of Donald Trump.

04:02:06.480 This is a simple description of the situation.

04:02:08.360 He is not the leader of the Republican team.

04:02:09.560 But that's what I'm saying.

04:02:10.380 He never was a Republican.

04:02:11.440 That's fine.

04:02:12.060 I agree with you.

04:02:13.880 All of that's true.

04:02:14.700 And none of this is, again, to sort of ignore all the good things that he did while he was president of the United States.

04:02:20.320 But he's not the leader of anything other than Donald Trump.

04:02:22.260 This has always been true of Donald Trump.

04:02:23.800 If there was ancillary crossover, it was ancillary.

04:02:26.060 So he's not the leader.

04:02:27.320 McCarthy clearly is not a leader because he presented no agenda at all.

04:02:30.840 And not only that, he was unable to dissociate from Trump to the extent that the election was not about Trump.

04:02:35.760 You would figure that he would do what he would have to do in order to make sure that his own House members could win.

04:02:41.300 Namely, do whatever he had to do to take the hit from Trump.

04:02:46.080 He's in a safe district, McCarthy.

04:02:47.580 You know, take the hit from Trump and create room between the other House candidates and Trump sufficient that they could win.

04:02:54.520 He didn't.

04:02:55.660 So where exactly is the House leadership in all of this?

04:02:59.220 You know, McConnell, I will say, he did his best to intervene in, again, this is not me standing for Mitch McConnell.

04:03:05.320 I've got a lot of problems with Mitch McConnell.

04:03:06.340 McConnell tried to intervene in a bunch of Senate races where Donald Trump basically overruled him in the primaries, and he got none of his favorite candidates.

04:03:12.720 He wanted Dave McCormick in Pennsylvania.

04:03:14.580 He did not want Herschel Walker in Georgia.

04:03:17.720 He did not want Blake Masters in Arizona.

04:03:19.580 But then is that not to say that Trump is the leader of the Republican Party in that he overrules the rest of the leaders?

04:03:23.660 Well, I mean, no.

04:03:24.760 So he's the leader in the Republican Party in the sense that he can put his thumb on the scale. 0.98

04:03:28.960 But he's not a leader in the sense that he actually gives a crap whether the team wins or not. 0.96

04:03:33.060 I mean, he proved that in Georgia last time around. 0.94

04:03:34.680 Trump definitely hasn't helped.

04:03:37.520 But like you've been saying all night, this is really candidate quality.

04:03:39.740 I agree with you.

04:03:40.580 And, you know, I was saying before about these Republican candidates who are just saying things they don't believe what they're saying.

04:03:45.200 And you said, what about Schumer and Pelosi and that sort of thing?

04:03:47.460 And, yeah, that's true on the Democrat side of it.

04:03:49.460 But at the same time, how many conservatives are in the Democrat Party masquerading as liberals?

04:03:54.700 So, like, it doesn't exist.

04:03:55.600 Right, right.

04:03:56.040 Whereas in the Republican Party, you've got Dr. Oz is a far left.

04:04:00.780 He's a far leftist.

04:04:02.100 I mean, he was shilling for transing the kids in 2011.

04:04:05.980 And an abortion months ago.

04:04:07.680 Right.

04:04:07.900 And they nominate him for the – they give him the nomination.

04:04:10.940 And then voters are saying, why the hell would we go with this guy?

04:04:13.680 You know, if we want a liberal Democrat, we just – we got the real deal here.

04:04:17.220 Why would we go with this guy?

04:04:18.780 The Republicans do that.

04:04:20.100 They take – you take leftists that don't believe any of this stuff.

04:04:23.520 They may hold up Manchin, but I think it would be a week.

04:04:26.700 I think their argument would be –

04:04:27.680 It could be the one possible example.

04:04:29.320 The exception that proves the rule.

04:04:30.680 I'd like to invite on now our good friend Dennis Prager from PragerU, among other things.

04:04:37.200 Noteworthy author, noteworthy radio host.

04:04:39.400 But I think that PragerU will outlive almost anything on the internet today as far as just being an amazing, lasting legacy of unbelievable intellectual content for particularly young people, but I think anyone, to really understand the world in which they live.

04:04:56.240 Dennis, thank you so much for coming on.

04:04:57.980 Listen, it's late in the evening.

04:04:59.480 We're slurring our words.

04:05:00.960 I've already said, like, munch of munch of fuzzy sushi.

04:05:04.760 I don't know.

04:05:05.240 We really need the help of a seasoned and professional broadcaster, so thank you.

04:05:11.320 Well, first of all, I'm on Danish time.

04:05:14.780 I just came in from Denmark.

04:05:16.640 Oh, my God.

04:05:17.160 Oh, wow.

04:05:17.760 So I don't even know – I don't know what time it is.

04:05:19.980 I am theoretically three hours behind you, two hours behind you, and seven hours ahead of you.

04:05:26.900 So it's a non-issue.

04:05:28.100 I just want to tell you guys, I have never joined a conversation – and this is rare for me to speak like this – where I have nothing brilliant to add.

04:05:40.800 You guys, I'm telling you, you guys have covered this so well.

04:05:45.760 I will only say in my own words what a bunch of you have said, and I have said this, though, longer than you because I'm older than all of you, I think.

04:05:56.580 And I will tell you, I have said to every Republican that I have ever met, every Republican candidate, every Republican in office, you have no message.

04:06:07.920 Your message has to be what the left is doing to the United States, and the Democratic Party is the party of the left.

04:06:13.860 Right. That is it. That is your raison d'etre, to stop the damage that they are doing.

04:06:19.700 Most Americans, even now, would believe that most of those things are damaging.

04:06:25.120 Keeping kids out of school for two years, rendering our schools to be sexualized objects, to make kids aware of their sexuality when they don't even have one,

04:06:35.540 to have drag queen story hours in kindergarten.

04:06:40.020 These are the issues, and you can win on these.

04:06:44.880 But you're right. I don't know what Kevin McCarthy stands for.

04:06:48.560 You're entirely right.

04:06:50.160 And all these other candidates.

04:06:52.080 You've said it beautifully.

04:06:53.760 If you don't have a compelling message that you believe in, then you won't win.

04:07:00.280 So, Dennis, I do want to ask you about, you know, the questions have quickly turned from 2022 to 2024 as it becomes clear that Republican, the wave just does not exist.

04:07:11.880 It's not even a tide.

04:07:12.820 It may not even be a trickle.

04:07:14.220 It may be a reverse trickle, depending on how this evening goes by the end of it.

04:07:17.080 But the question has quickly turned to 2024 because one silver lining to me that, you know, since I've been Debbie Downer literally all night, that Democrats will have learned nothing.

04:07:27.700 In fact, they will continue to double down on this.

04:07:29.720 So they will continue to double down on the woke.

04:07:31.240 They'll continue to double down on the transiting of the kids.

04:07:33.300 They'll continue to double down on the spending.

04:07:35.620 All of it.

04:07:36.080 They're going to take this as a repudiation of any critique of any of their agenda.

04:07:39.920 They're doing an amazing job is the takeaway here.

04:07:42.040 And so they're just going to continue to do exactly what they've been doing this whole time. 0.97

04:07:45.900 At the same time, hopefully Republicans can learn some valuable lessons like stop running shitty candidates.

04:07:51.100 Also, it would be good if Republicans would would start actually moving toward people who are practically good at their jobs and capable of mobilizing serious numbers of votes in favor. 0.77

04:08:01.200 In other words, get professional about 2024 and start treating it like it's a serious topic as opposed to we can screw around for two years in the hopes that the pure failure of the Democrats will somehow land a bunch of us incompetents in power.

04:08:14.140 Maybe the so maybe that's the silver lining is that everybody, all the Republicans get smacked for being incompetent and the Democrats don't any learn any of the lessons that would save them going forward to 2024.

04:08:24.060 That's the only possible silver lining for me on this one.

04:08:26.220 Yeah, I'll call that a silver lining if we hold the House.

04:08:28.920 Yeah, agreed.

04:08:30.220 You're right.

04:08:31.360 It'll be a silver lining if if we win the House.

04:08:35.580 It's it's beyond belief.

04:08:39.340 The reason that I'm hesitating is I don't like to convey sadness.

04:08:46.660 It's sort of like it's it's sort of forbidden in my profession as a talk show host.

04:08:53.140 But I I I built a reputation for being honest.

04:08:57.320 Look, whatever one makes of it, it is sad that half of this country is not scared of the left.

04:09:06.500 That's it.

04:09:08.000 Yeah, what is there to say they have ruined everything they have touched what they have done to the medical profession that has it's one of the few things that I haven't heard them mentioned and may well have been I didn't hear everything.

04:09:18.280 I was on an airplane, but just what they've the American Medical Association announces a few years ago that birth certificates should not list gender slash sex because we don't know what it is.

04:09:31.660 The American Medical Association, that the children's hospitals of the country are now united in one voice in saying that it is a good thing for girls who say they're boys to get mastectomies at the age of 18.

04:09:43.480 If we can't win on those things, if we can't become, I was just suggested to me, the party of parents that that worked in Virginia, it's certainly a big deal in Florida.

04:09:56.160 Just say that we care about parental authority without its society crumbles.

04:10:01.520 I mean, they have given us a grand canyonesque size of things to run on, and we don't.

04:10:10.320 Yeah, Shapiro in Pennsylvania said, freedom isn't telling your children what books they can read.

04:10:16.920 No, that is freedom.

04:10:18.220 Freedom is telling your children what books they can and can't read.

04:10:21.820 I want to know, being of Sicilian extraction, who I can blame. 1.00

04:10:25.800 You know, I want to point, because, you know, I'm more open than most people to suggestions of voter shenanigans and the late counts that drag on.

04:10:34.040 And maybe that's, some of that's going on in Arizona, I guess that remains to be seen.

04:10:37.480 But that's not what's going on in a lot of the country.

04:10:39.380 I don't think that's what's, I don't think Republicans can point to voter fraud or rigging or things to account for at least the vast majority of these lawsuits.

04:10:47.860 Fetterman in Pennsylvania.

04:10:48.800 Fetterman, I'm not blaming, you know, ballots coming in in the middle of the night.

04:10:52.520 That's not what happened there.

04:10:53.480 And so, I don't think Republicans can credibly, in most places, blame that.

04:10:57.800 And so, what do we blame?

04:10:59.300 Do we blame the RINOs, the House leadership, Trump, the voters, the, what do we blame?

04:11:09.140 Well, if it was posed in any way to me, I thought Ben's idea of firing coaches.

04:11:15.620 When you should win the game and you lose, then most people would look for a new coach or a bunch of new coaches.

04:11:26.120 However, it's so much larger than any one individual.

04:11:29.420 If you, why do all of you and I, and we're not alone, why do we understand what is at stake with Democrats and the left winning, and that is not conveyed by the Republican Party as a rule?

04:11:46.820 Tell me.

04:11:47.700 I just, that's the riddle.

04:11:49.900 Well, why do we understand and they don't?

04:11:53.040 I can take a stab at an answer to that, Dennis.

04:11:56.000 It's because Washington, D.C. is on the East Coast.

04:11:59.980 It's because the kinds of people who can afford, generally speaking, to make a run for public office have already had success in their life, and most of them in that success have moved to urban settings, they've moved to coastal settings, and their own children don't share the values that the party purports to represent.

04:12:23.480 And so you end up in this very interesting situation where, you know, Drew and I talk about this sometimes, it's true for everyone here except Matt, but we're coastal guys, you know, we've all spent 20 years in L.A., or Ben's been his entire life in Southern California, you've spent your entire professional life in Southern California.

04:12:43.580 We are not rural Texans, we're not rural Tennesseeans, we're not rural Panhandle of Florida Floridians.

04:12:55.320 We, I think part of what distinguishes us, perhaps, living in the environments that we've had, is that we have some sort of character trait which has allowed us to be, perhaps we're contrarians.

04:13:09.980 And so in the environment of living in L.A., if it radicalized us, it radicalized us even further to the right.

04:13:16.880 But I think that that isn't the reaction that most people in those environments have.

04:13:20.840 I think the longer you serve in D.C., the longer you're in party leadership, the more removed you become from the sensibilities of the people that you represent, the more removed you become from the sort of traditional conservatism, we might argue about some of the disagreements, but the general things that we're all trying to promote.

04:13:39.860 And the more your kids go to very nice schools, and your kids have very liberal educations, and you're surrounded your friends, your young staff, in all of these ways, you're being pulled leftward.

04:13:52.600 And what you're left with is either you're still a conservative, but your suit doesn't fit very well, it's uncomfortable when you put it on, you're a little bit embarrassed in front of your friends, you're a little bit embarrassed in front of your kids.

04:14:05.640 Your kids are either themselves questioning their sexuality, your kids are questioning their gender identity, or their friend who they're in school who you've known since they were a little kid and they come over.

04:14:20.080 You're just immersed in the world of the left.

04:14:23.620 And because you're so immersed in the world of the left, it's not necessarily that you don't believe your own values anymore.

04:14:29.120 It's just that they don't, they don't form well.

04:14:33.020 You're not proud of them.

04:14:33.120 You're not proud of them.

04:14:34.080 That's exactly right.

04:14:35.660 I really do think that for my entire life, I mean, Mitt Romney was ashamed of conservatives.

04:14:43.020 I don't hate Mitt Romney the way others hate Mitt Romney.

04:14:46.800 Most people hate Mitt Romney because Donald Trump hated Mitt Romney.

04:14:49.720 I never let Donald Trump tell me what to hate.

04:14:52.200 Other people hate Mitt Romney because he lost.

04:14:54.040 But if you're going to hate losers, you wouldn't have any friends in the Republican Party.

04:14:58.860 I never wanted Mitt Romney to be our nominee.

04:15:01.640 I opposed him in the primaries in 2012.

04:15:04.160 I never believed that he could win.

04:15:05.920 It's not because of a hatred of Mitt Romney.

04:15:07.720 He's a big lib.

04:15:08.960 I think he's a good man.

04:15:10.940 He's just a big lib.

04:15:14.040 Mitt Romney wasn't proud of my dad.

04:15:15.880 I think actually part of what people like about Donald Trump, who's also not a conservative in any sort of constitutional way,

04:15:22.780 but Donald Trump kind of is proud of my dad.

04:15:25.000 He really communicates.

04:15:26.400 Hugs the American flag.

04:15:27.520 Yeah, he hugged the American flag.

04:15:28.980 He likes the country.

04:15:30.100 He likes people who work with their hands.

04:15:32.340 Now, is some of that showbiz?

04:15:34.160 I don't know.

04:15:34.760 I don't know Donald Trump.

04:15:36.000 He certainly communicates that.

04:15:37.520 And in communicating that, he was able to build a coalition that a lot of these Republicans aren't able to put together.

04:15:42.700 Yes, it's that he fights, but I don't think it's just that he fights.

04:15:45.980 I think that it's that...

04:15:46.820 It's that he chased after a Marine's hat when it blew off his head.

04:15:50.380 He didn't even think about it.

04:15:51.440 That was not posed.

04:15:52.780 That was something he just did.

04:15:53.920 He just picked it up.

04:15:54.620 And I think any one of us would have done it, but he did it, and I don't think Barack Obama would have done it.

04:15:58.560 Right.

04:15:59.080 Yeah, that's right.

04:16:00.720 He wasn't a big lib.

04:16:02.460 You mentioned the people who, they don't wear the jacket comfortably.

04:16:09.380 I totally agree with that.

04:16:10.520 But I tend to focus on the forest more than trees.

04:16:15.640 It's not here or there.

04:16:17.020 It's just my nature.

04:16:18.860 So I will never forget, I began lecturing at the age of 21.

04:16:23.800 It's a very odd life.

04:16:25.100 It's not important to get into it, but I did.

04:16:27.420 And in my 20s, I would look at audiences, and of course they were my parents' age, and I would say to them,

04:16:34.060 you know, you all said you wanted to give my generation, the baby boomers, you wanted to give us everything you didn't have. 0.94

04:16:42.800 Yeah.

04:16:42.960 And that was generally material benefits and freedom.

04:16:48.760 And you did.

04:16:50.940 You gave us everything you didn't have, and you never gave us what you did have.

04:16:56.560 I said that when I was 25 to parents.

04:17:00.180 This is very, very old, this problem.

04:17:03.260 That, as I have often put it, Christians didn't know how to explain Christianity. 1.00

04:17:10.400 Jews didn't know how to explain Judaism. 0.98

04:17:12.560 Americans didn't know how to explain America. 0.95

04:17:14.960 Conservatives didn't know how to explain conservatism.

04:17:17.240 And we are suffering, to this day, from those lapses.

04:17:24.000 I think that there's a combo, a little bit.

04:17:27.200 One is that we're certainly suffering from the inability to convey that traditional wisdom is just commonsensical,

04:17:32.360 and it's not threatening, it's just common sense.

04:17:34.560 And a lot of conservatives have no capacity to just convey that in non-embarrassed fashion,

04:17:39.440 the way that you're talking about, Jeremy.

04:17:40.840 And at the same time, there are a lot of conservatives, because they're uncomfortable in their own skin,

04:17:44.660 who are not willing to stand up and say uncomfortable things to, for example, Trump.

04:17:52.500 And it puts them in an uncomfortable position.

04:17:54.360 And you see this.

04:17:55.280 I mean, the Republicans are going to dramatically underperform, I promise you again, with suburban women tonight. 1.00

04:18:00.200 They will.

04:18:00.560 I mean, when you see the results come in, you will see that they dramatically underperformed with suburban women again.

04:18:05.560 And I think one of the reasons that you will see that is because, again,

04:18:09.720 if you are going to create in a lab what a good Republican looks like,

04:18:13.720 it looks like somebody who's extremely strong in traditional values, somebody who looks like a protector,

04:18:18.540 somebody who looks like they are not beholden to whatever sort of weird conspiracy theory of the week is out there,

04:18:24.040 because they're so afraid of either their own base or what Donald Trump is going to tweet about them,

04:18:27.900 and a person who is baseline competent.

04:18:30.320 If you get all four of those things, you end up with Ron DeSantis or Brian Kemp.

04:18:33.640 And if you get only a few of those things, you end up with the vast majority of the Republican Party.

04:18:37.380 And people are not going to trust you.

04:18:39.840 I mean, like, I don't know what a lot of these Republicans believe on any of those things.

04:18:44.100 I don't know if they believe in traditional values.

04:18:45.440 I don't know if they believe the stuff that they're saying about elections

04:18:48.040 or if they're saying it just because they feel like they're pressured to say it.

04:18:50.760 I don't know if they are competent in their jobs because they've never had a job to do.

04:18:56.820 I mean, they literally sit in Congress all day and don't govern.

04:18:59.360 So I don't even know what exactly they do.

04:19:01.540 So they don't have any of those elements that make me desperate.

04:19:04.820 Like, I think a lot of Republicans today came out because they were desperate to vote against the Democrats.

04:19:09.420 But I don't think that there were a lot of Republicans who came out today

04:19:11.840 because they were desperate to vote in favor of the Republicans, except in Florida,

04:19:14.540 where they were desperate to vote for the Republicans.

04:19:17.180 Right? Like, Charlie Crist is not a candidate.

04:19:18.740 That wasn't a competitive race in the first place.

04:19:20.320 I showed up to vote. My wife showed up to vote.

04:19:21.760 Everyone I know showed up to vote in Florida simply to say this agenda requires support.

04:19:28.020 It requires support because this agenda is worth exploring.

04:19:30.380 And it's a good agenda.

04:19:31.820 And the Democrats need to be stopped.

04:19:32.960 And this is a signal to the rest of the Democrats that they need to be stopped.

04:19:35.640 I think one of the things that Dennis is noticing, because I've noticed it too,

04:19:38.540 and it may be generational that we notice it,

04:19:41.000 I think a certain madness is crossing, blowing across the country.

04:19:45.220 I think it has to, I personally think it has to do with a lot of epochs that are ending

04:19:49.040 in a new Internet age that is still only beginning.

04:19:52.200 But whatever it has to do with, when you talk to people, for instance, about transgenderism,

04:19:56.820 sane people, you know, people who should be sane, people who should be sensible,

04:19:59.340 and you say what is obvious, that you can say anything you want about a transgender woman,

04:20:03.280 for instance.

04:20:03.780 One thing you can't say about him is that he's a woman.

04:20:05.940 That's just not true.

04:20:07.040 I mean, and when you say that to people, their eyes kind of glaze over.

04:20:10.460 And I kind of feel that a certain level of sanity is just not present at this moment.

04:20:17.060 And we have to hope it's going to come back.

04:20:18.500 I believe it's going to come back.

04:20:19.600 It always does come back.

04:20:20.560 That's kind of the Yankee sensibility. 0.95

04:20:22.300 But when it comes back, things are not going to be the same.

04:20:24.780 Things are changing.

04:20:25.940 Some tremendous change is going on that we haven't quite parsed yet.

04:20:29.720 Guys like, to me, guys like Obama and Donald Trump are the end of something.

04:20:33.040 They're not the beginning of anything.

04:20:34.620 But what is about to begin hasn't really shown its head yet.

04:20:38.140 And it's in moments like this when we lose just our common sense, a kind of craziness,

04:20:45.060 just the madness of crowds takes place.

04:20:47.240 And I think we're going through it.

04:20:48.160 I have conversations with people that I think should be down to earth, that I think should

04:20:51.800 be sane, where I say things that are so obviously true.

04:20:55.060 They're not a question of values.

04:20:56.360 They're not a question of anything.

04:20:59.120 But the truth is human right.

04:21:00.360 And they don't understand.

04:21:01.500 Let me ask you, if we had a referendum in the country, do you think that men who say they

04:21:08.460 are women should be allowed to compete against women in women's sports? 1.00

04:21:12.460 What do you think the vote would be?

04:21:13.720 I think if it were a secret vote, the vote would be completely no.

04:21:17.220 They should not be allowed.

04:21:18.260 A hundred to zero.

04:21:19.580 Right.

04:21:19.880 Why don't we, why don't Republicans then race, run races on that issue, for example?

04:21:26.520 Exactly.

04:21:27.260 Well, I think that is a good issue.

04:21:29.540 I agree with Ben that there has to be a base level of competence.

04:21:32.960 You also have to be able to say, this is what I'm going to do with the economy.

04:21:36.040 This isn't how I'm going to handle crime and inflation.

04:21:38.580 But yeah, I agree with you.

04:21:39.840 I agree with you.

04:21:40.360 Why don't they?

04:21:40.820 They're afraid.

04:21:41.360 They're wrapped up in a media bubble.

04:21:42.900 They're wrapped up in a social media bubble of their own making.

04:21:45.860 They fear, they fear the New York Times more than they fear God.

04:21:51.180 But look at, that is the way I, that is the way I am a religious person.

04:21:54.400 I'm not sure they can tell the difference.

04:21:55.740 The media, the media message after this is going to be that those kinds of issues, the 0.92

04:21:59.900 trans issue, it's a loser for, for conservatives. 1.00

04:22:02.360 But the, but the, but most Republicans didn't really go anywhere near it during their campaign.

04:22:05.780 That's right.

04:22:06.320 They maybe mentioned it like as a peripheral thing, but the few, I mean, I'm trying to think

04:22:10.700 of an example, who's a Republican that made a credible case on that issue and for parental

04:22:16.820 rights and lost.

04:22:18.220 Is there an example of that?

04:22:19.180 I mean, DeSantis is the perfect example of someone who did that and won.

04:22:22.500 So I think that, yeah.

04:22:23.540 Dennis, I mean, so I'm going to ask you what has been kind of the running question of the

04:22:27.580 night.

04:22:27.740 So what does this say for you about moving forward to 2024, given the fact that DeSantis

04:22:32.860 has wildly overperformed and, and that a lot of Trump candidates look like they're in

04:22:37.620 trouble?

04:22:38.080 What does this say to you about leadership of the Republican party going forward?

04:22:41.460 So, okay.

04:22:43.760 I have come to the conclusion that there really is such a thing as Trump derangement syndrome.

04:22:49.720 I never used the term for four years of his presidency.

04:22:53.880 I thought it was a little wild.

04:22:55.560 I now I'm convinced it exists, but I am now also convinced that the opposite exists.

04:23:01.100 Trump preoccupation syndrome, whatever, whatever term one would like to use, not suffering from

04:23:08.660 either.

04:23:09.620 Uh, uh, I don't think, let's put it this way.

04:23:13.800 If Donald Trump were to say, I am not running because I don't think I should be the issue.

04:23:21.140 Rather, the damage the left and the Democrats are doing should be the issue.

04:23:25.780 The man would be regarded by most people on our side as a saint.

04:23:31.100 Yes.

04:23:32.500 Yes.

04:23:33.100 But, but Dennis, if my grandma had wheels, she'd be a wagon. 1.00

04:23:36.140 Okay.

04:23:39.220 Correct.

04:23:40.200 That is correct.

04:23:41.400 Now, Ben could tell you the original Yiddish version of that.

04:23:45.240 I don't know if it goes over.

04:23:47.280 Exactly.

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04:25:48.020 I felt, you know, I really roused it for the end.

04:25:51.760 We're going to go hear from our team over at Election Wire for one last check-in on what's

04:25:55.500 happening at the polls.

04:25:57.000 So here to help us out with that is John Bickley.

04:25:59.400 Hey, all right.

04:26:02.760 Going to me.

04:26:03.820 Hey, guys.

04:26:04.720 So I'm joined by Robert Cahaley here.

04:26:07.820 We're going to talk about some of the things that we're looking at at the end of the night

04:26:10.800 as we're kind of coming close to the end.

04:26:13.820 A lot to unpack in terms of the Senate.

04:26:17.440 So we've got a couple of things still hanging around.

04:26:19.940 We've got some races confirmed.

04:26:22.420 I can give a quick rundown of those before you get to Robert.

04:26:24.580 Let's do it.

04:26:25.020 Just to give you guys a feel for where we're at right now.

04:26:27.400 In the house, a couple of races we've been keeping our eyes on.

04:26:30.000 Lauren Boebert, it does look like she's going to be defeated. 0.98

04:26:32.540 She's down 51-48 right now.

04:26:34.500 She spoke to the crowd, said it's too close to call, but that she will not be making any

04:26:38.120 more statements tonight.

04:26:39.300 This one's from Michael Knowles.

04:26:40.260 Sean Patrick Maloney, barring a miracle, is going to lose.

04:26:42.920 He's down 53-46 right now with over 90% reporting.

04:26:46.940 And we talked about Florida, how it's been a lot of good news there.

04:26:48.840 It's not all good news from Florida, though.

04:26:51.000 In the 10th Congressional District, we're looking at the first Gen Zer in Congress who 1.00

04:26:55.960 just won Maxwell Frost.

04:26:58.620 He is an avowed socialist and a Bernie Sanders supporter, so the new youngest member of Congress.

04:27:03.860 Now to the Senate in Georgia, the race that is still the closest one that we're seeing

04:27:07.300 around the country.

04:27:08.300 Warnock is up 49.3 to 48.6.

04:27:11.600 It looks like the best case right now for Republicans is that Warnock does not get to 50

04:27:15.440 and that it goes to a runoff.

04:27:17.180 One more point, kind of to what you guys have been talking about all night.

04:27:20.900 The two candidates that Trump went after, that's Brian Kemp, the governor, and Secretary

04:27:25.660 of State Brad Raffensperger, both won tonight.

04:27:28.480 Walker, the only one at the statewide level that has not won for Republicans.

04:27:32.060 In Arizona, it's not looking good for Republicans again.

04:27:34.740 Mark Kelly, 57.8.

04:27:36.040 Blake Masters, 40.

04:27:37.500 Katie Hobbs with a 56-43 lead over Carrie Lake.

04:27:41.500 Pennsylvania, also not looking good, 49.4 for Fetterman to 48.2 for Oz with about 88%

04:27:48.320 of the vote in.

04:27:49.540 New York Times has given it over a 95% chance for John Fetterman there in Pennsylvania.

04:27:56.060 Some of the races that are close for Republicans that look good.

04:27:58.260 Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer holds just a 50.1 to 48.2 lead over Tudor Dixon, very close there. 0.98

04:28:04.060 And in Wisconsin, Senator Ron Johnson incumbent is up 51.5 to 48.5 over Mandela Barnes.

04:28:10.880 John, to you and Robert.

04:28:13.020 Yeah, so we're looking at sort of a mixed bag there.

04:28:15.780 Some of the races we thought would go Republicans' way did in the Senate.

04:28:20.860 So we had, you know, J.D. Vance did quite well.

04:28:24.340 Ted Budd pulled it off, right?

04:28:26.920 But Wisconsin is pretty close.

04:28:28.880 Ron Johnson's now leading by about four.

04:28:32.020 There's 81% in.

04:28:34.000 How do you feel about that race?

04:28:35.480 I still think, you know, in the end, a lot of this was about incumbency.

04:28:39.740 And so a lot of incumbents had a hard time.

04:28:41.920 And so we were always worried that Johnson might have a little bit of a hard time

04:28:45.460 as compared to some of the other, you know, some of the other races with more popular candidates.

04:28:50.220 But it's amazing because the Democrats were sure that North Carolina and Ohio

04:28:54.820 were going to be places they had a real shot and they didn't.

04:28:58.280 And then they were less confident about places like Pennsylvania early on after the debate

04:29:05.840 and Arizona as it started to change.

04:29:08.460 So a lot of what's happening tonight is kind of topsy-turvy.

04:29:12.880 It's hard to predict here.

04:29:14.860 There's not a clear pattern.

04:29:15.980 No, absolutely.

04:29:17.200 And it really is very much state to state.

04:29:19.040 And one of the points they've made over there is this idea about message.

04:29:23.500 I mean, message does matter because without message, you're down to personalities.

04:29:28.160 And personality traits can be things that are immeasurable, that people just determined.

04:29:32.960 And one of the things we did early on this year was we kept asking about how they feel about the Democrats' messages,

04:29:39.160 and they were rejecting it.

04:29:40.100 And then just recently we said, have the Republicans made the case to win your votes?

04:29:45.020 And the answer was no.

04:29:46.640 And so it was you have to have more than just rejecting Democrats.

04:29:50.020 You have to get people to give them a reason to vote for you.

04:29:54.360 And some of the more controversial issues that the Republicans were hesitant to touch that,

04:29:59.660 for example, the governor of Florida was not hesitant to touch,

04:30:03.440 these are the hot-button issues that did move.

04:30:05.420 And we had a very big victory there.

04:30:08.340 So, you know, we looked toward what's going to happen in Nevada

04:30:11.580 and then the possible runoff in Georgia, which stinks because there goes vacation.

04:30:18.180 But the Senate could still be in balance.

04:30:21.260 We could have a replay of two years ago where the entire Senate raced on what happens in the Georgia runoff.

04:30:26.680 Right.

04:30:26.840 So it comes down to really Georgia-Nevada at this point.

04:30:32.200 Arizona, how do you feel about that race?

04:30:34.280 Arizona looks bad, but remembering that the early vote is predominantly all that's in now.

04:30:40.200 So it might get tighter in Arizona.

04:30:42.660 It certainly can.

04:30:43.600 I mean, for example, Michigan looked a lot worse an hour ago than it does now.

04:30:47.720 So that remains to be seen.

04:30:49.820 But in Georgia, traditionally, if you are an incumbent and you get a runoff, that's bad news.

04:30:56.500 Incumbents don't tend to win runoffs.

04:30:57.700 And with Carrie Lake underperforming at this point, it's about 50% in.

04:31:01.780 We were kind of hoping she would pull Blake Masters across the finish line.

04:31:04.860 Maybe not going to happen.

04:31:05.780 She's leading Masters.

04:31:07.420 Yeah.

04:31:08.220 She has a higher percentage of the vote, but not enough to guarantee that both of them will get there,

04:31:15.000 depending upon what's left and how it comes in.

04:31:17.440 More work to do.

04:31:18.240 Thank you.

04:31:19.600 Back to you guys.

04:31:21.460 Hideously terrible news, all.

04:31:24.620 So, yeah, this is not an exciting evening.

04:31:28.880 You know, kind of like many of my dates before I met my wife.

04:31:34.520 Start up optimistic.

04:31:36.420 Ben uses the term many.

04:31:39.360 You went on three.

04:31:40.220 You're right.

04:31:40.700 Many of my dates.

04:31:41.800 Several.

04:31:46.080 Yeah, I mean, again, I'm just going to go back to the simple fact that if you are getting state-by-state results,

04:31:52.980 this means you did not run a national race, one, which is the messaging issue.

04:31:56.380 And two, that candidates differ race by race.

04:31:58.320 So we keep coming back to the same message over and over.

04:32:00.520 The only way that changes is if you actually have a non-empty-shell leadership at the top of the party

04:32:07.420 that is willing to put forward a program.

04:32:10.400 And Newt Gingrich won a bajillion seats in 1994 because he put forward an actual program.

04:32:14.100 There was no actual program that was put forward by the Republican House.

04:32:17.620 That's a good point.

04:32:18.180 And Kevin McCarthy is not an inspiring figure in any way, shape, or form.

04:32:22.160 I know Kevin McCarthy, and he's a very nice person.

04:32:24.200 But I don't see how you can underperform to this extent

04:32:27.580 and still hope to be seen as sort of the durable leader of the Republican Party in the House.

04:32:35.320 And I will say this.

04:32:36.620 There's, you know, again, I sound like the routine Mitch McConnell defender here.

04:32:39.580 He spent $234 million from the Senate fund.

04:32:43.000 Donald Trump spent about $0.27 and picked three-quarters of the candidates in the Senate.

04:32:46.760 About $100 million.

04:32:47.600 I'm not anti-cocaine Mitch.

04:32:49.780 By the way, I will also mention that if you actually watched, 0.72

04:32:53.740 one of the most ridiculous things in this entire race was Donald Trump sent out a fundraising letter,

04:32:58.320 I believe it was for Blake Masters, from his listserv. 0.75

04:33:01.500 And it showed what the division of the money was that you gave.

04:33:04.980 It was $0.99 to Donald Trump's PAC and $0.01 to Blake Masters.

04:33:09.380 Okay, that is not raising money for Blake Masters, as it turns out. 0.96

04:33:14.520 Listen, if the Republican Party is going to be foolish enough that there are no recriminations

04:33:18.240 for the people who actually picked the worst candidates in the race, 0.94

04:33:20.820 refused to fund them, and then left them out to dry while celebrating Joe O'Day losing in Colorado,

04:33:25.680 then you get what you deserve.

04:33:26.860 I'm sorry, you get what you deserve. 0.88

04:33:27.940 Again, I'll vote for that guy if he's the nominee, because the Democrats are worse.

04:33:31.180 But you don't have to do that.

04:33:32.740 You could, like, theoretically have a thought about maybe this isn't the best idea.

04:33:36.360 How many times are we going to run this same play over and over and over?

04:33:39.320 Well, at least one more.

04:33:40.880 You mention Blake Masters, though, and we'll see what happens with Blake.

04:33:44.200 But it's an interesting test case because Blake Masters and J.D. Vance were basically the same

04:33:50.060 candidate with the same background, with the same backers, with the same platform,

04:33:54.680 with the same actually kind of interesting departure from the old GOP stuff.

04:33:58.480 And J.D. wins, and Blake is in trouble right now.

04:34:01.060 And who knows when we'll find out if he wins or loses.

04:34:02.640 Well, I mean, I will give you a very, very easy answer for that.

04:34:06.240 And that is that Donald Trump won Ohio with 53% of the vote while Biden received 45% of the vote in Ohio.

04:34:11.400 And Donald Trump lost Arizona.

04:34:12.480 All they're doing is mirroring Trump's exact results in those states.

04:34:15.780 By the way, Dr. Oz mirrored Trump's exact results in Pennsylvania.

04:34:19.120 By the way, Herschel Walker is mirroring Trump's exact results in Georgia.

04:34:22.080 Almost as though if Donald Trump picks a candidate and then that person gets exactly the same percentage

04:34:26.600 of the vote in those states, there is a correlation.

04:34:29.020 Isn't that strange?

04:34:29.760 There is worth also pointing out the role of spoilers, which we haven't really talked about.

04:34:33.300 Oh, the libertarians.

04:34:34.120 The libertarians.

04:34:34.780 Because if you look right now at the Fetterman-Oz race, the libertarians got 1.4% of the vote.

04:34:40.580 If Oz got that 1.4%, it puts him over Fetterman.

04:34:43.820 And it actually, well, we'll see how the vote shakes out for the rest of the night.

04:34:47.700 It actually theoretically could push him up to 50.

04:34:49.660 But nevertheless, it would put him over Fetterman.

04:34:51.540 And then you look at Warnock and Herschel Walker.

04:34:54.140 The libertarian gets 2% of the vote.

04:34:56.260 That puts Herschel over 50%.

04:34:59.360 You don't want to be yelling at Jill Stewart because your own party is drama.

04:35:01.840 I certainly do.

04:35:03.520 I definitely want to.

04:35:04.580 No, no, you've got to be.

04:35:05.540 By the way, they called the race for Fetterman.

04:35:07.180 That one's over.

04:35:07.960 That is over, yeah.

04:35:09.580 Did Oz concede?

04:35:10.480 There's one other piece that we haven't really talked much about, which is the demographics

04:35:14.280 in the country from an age point of view are changing.

04:35:17.740 You know, such a peculiar thing that we elected Barack Obama and then ascended another boomer

04:35:24.120 and then ascended Joe Biden, who's not even a boomer.

04:35:27.560 He's older than the boomers. 0.81

04:35:28.660 I mean, it's a very peculiar moment in history when you're getting older and older, generationally

04:35:33.860 older and older and older, three presidents in a row.

04:35:35.900 At the same time that boomers are no longer the largest voting age demographic in the country,

04:35:43.180 that now belongs to the millennials.

04:35:47.860 Republicans like to say, well, but they don't vote.

04:35:50.440 But over time they do.

04:35:52.020 The millennials aren't. 0.93

04:35:52.940 When we think of millennials, everybody thinks about the 20-year-old who works at your office.

04:35:56.520 I mean, I have bad news for you.

04:35:57.560 The 20-year-old who works at your office is not a millennial.

04:36:00.440 The millennials are well into adulthood now.

04:36:03.460 They are beginning to move into the age where you actually do cast votes.

04:36:07.420 It's early to see.

04:36:08.360 I mean, we're going to have to see some numbers over the next 72 hours probably before we can

04:36:11.860 really make any kind of claim about this.

04:36:13.660 But it may be that part of what we're experiencing right now is an actual generational shift within

04:36:19.000 the electorate that our pollsters do not yet know how to measure because they've been measuring

04:36:25.060 the same group of people for the last 40 years.

04:36:27.060 I agree.

04:36:27.520 I agree.

04:36:28.100 I think it's a big deal.

04:36:29.660 I think this is the whole deal.

04:36:31.440 I mean, you know, this is, you are getting a generation coming up who are born into an 1.00

04:36:35.800 internet world.

04:36:36.840 We don't even know what the, you know, we, this whole group, I hate to say it, but we're

04:36:41.060 all too old to understand what it is to be born into an internet world.

04:36:44.980 It is, it's a changing of the guard and it really is.

04:36:48.840 And I just don't think the furniture, I don't think the gravity has come back into the room

04:36:52.100 yet and the furniture has fallen down.

04:36:53.460 We know what the room looks like yet.

04:36:54.720 It's still early.

04:36:55.600 These things happen slower than the speed of podcasting.

04:36:58.200 But you know what we haven't celebrated tonight?

04:37:00.580 For the first time since 1993, Guam will be sending a Republican delegate to Washington,

04:37:06.420 D.C.

04:37:07.220 They did in fact tip Guam, not quite into the ocean, but in the, the man was a prophet.

04:37:13.600 He was a prophet.

04:37:14.760 The man was a prophet.

04:37:15.460 No one knew.

04:37:15.820 Dennis, when you go on the air tomorrow, what are you going to say?

04:37:20.580 I'll talk about Denmark.

04:37:28.940 That will be my temptation.

04:37:31.260 I've been taking notes to tell you the truth.

04:37:33.740 I've been taking notes while you guys have been, been talking.

04:37:37.460 You know, it's very interesting.

04:37:39.320 All of you have experienced this at some time.

04:37:41.500 Being away for five days in Europe, obviously, they're talking about other things.

04:37:48.020 Although I will tell you, the knowledge of American politics and American life among Europeans, 0.96

04:37:56.420 at least Europeans who care about issues, is astonishing. 0.78

04:37:59.840 The people that I spoke to, the Free Press Society in Denmark, these people could be on your panel and talk about Arizona and Wisconsin.

04:38:11.000 It's eerie.

04:38:12.720 But I'll tell you what I'll leave you with.

04:38:16.420 And since you don't embarrass people who give dour news, I will just tell you, for the first time in my life, a long life, America is now seen as exporting bad ideas.

04:38:34.440 This is a first in American history.

04:38:39.780 When in Hong Kong they marched for freedom, they marched with an American flag.

04:38:45.780 There was no greater sight than an American flag for people who loved liberty.

04:38:49.660 And now, you know, they've shut down, in Europe, they have shut down virtually every single children's hospital that was doing the things that we do.

04:39:01.440 The affirmation of trans that takes place routinely in American children's hospitals is not happening in Europe, including in socialist, quote unquote, socialist countries.

04:39:12.400 So, it's a perilous time.

04:39:20.180 And I'll just say to Drew, who said, you know, I think you said the pendulum swings or something to that effect, or Yankee sensibility will return.

04:39:31.360 Whenever I hear that, you know, in the long run, truth wins out, or in the long run, the good prevails,

04:39:38.400 I always think about what happens during the long run, how many lives are ruined during that run.

04:39:48.340 It's absolutely true.

04:39:50.140 So, it's not, for me, a consolation.

04:39:52.680 Sorry.

04:39:54.980 God wins is a good recommendation of God.

04:39:58.680 Sorry, recommendation of, say, the next 40 years of American politics.

04:40:03.800 Dennis, thank you for joining us.

04:40:05.180 And everyone go over and listen to The Dennis Prager Show tomorrow.

04:40:07.940 All these guys will have podcasts tomorrow.

04:40:10.100 The good news is I'll be sleeping soundly in my bed.

04:40:13.080 But we're going to take a break now so that these guys can get a little rest.

04:40:15.800 We'll have results for you.

04:40:17.820 By the first shows tomorrow, a lot more will be known than is known tonight.

04:40:22.840 It's an easy evening to be dour.

04:40:25.120 And we should, you know, it's not wrong to mourn with others while they mourn.

04:40:29.700 It's not wrong to face reality.

04:40:31.320 This is not the night that Republicans had hoped for.

04:40:34.440 At the same time, we have a lot of fight left in us.

04:40:37.540 We have a lot of fight left in us as a country.

04:40:39.320 We have a lot of fight left in us as conservatives.

04:40:41.720 Have a lot of fight left in us at Daily Wire.

04:40:44.060 Come back tomorrow and we'll see what we can mobilize and we'll get back to work.

04:40:47.320 We'll see you next week.

04:40:54.720 Bye.

04:40:57.240 Keep back.

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