The Matt Walsh Show - The Dating App SCAM That Is Destroying The Dating Pool

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00:00:55.880 I mentioned a few times in the past that I met my wife from online dating back in the early days of the online dating, the existence of online dating.

00:01:05.680 Specifically, at the time, it was eHarmony.

00:01:08.480 And that was well over a decade ago.

00:01:09.860 Actually, it was like 15 years ago when these platforms were surging in popularity.

00:01:14.300 They had just sort of come into existence recently.

00:01:17.300 And there are plenty of independent dating apps and websites, mostly websites.

00:01:21.520 there weren't a lot of apps at the time, all competing with one another to attract as many

00:01:25.820 users as possible. And because an enormous amount of venture capital money was flowing into the

00:01:30.720 industry, most of these dating services weren't worried about monetizing everything or nickel

00:01:35.340 and diming their users. They were trying to be the best platform in a very crowded market.

00:01:40.720 Now, the case of eHarmony specifically, they came up with a unique idea, a massive questionnaire

00:01:44.420 consisting of more than 450 questions. And that's how they matched people. The whole point was to

00:01:50.040 ensure that you had as much information as possible about the person that you were about to

00:01:53.680 talk to. And when you did choose to talk to someone, you could see their photo, you could

00:01:57.460 send them messages. None of this required paying a lot of extra money. Fast forward just a few

00:02:03.140 years and eHarmony made the questionnaire optional. They also reduced it by hundreds of questions and

00:02:08.220 they made that change for the same reason that every other dating service did. The less customers

00:02:13.240 know about a potential match, the more customers will be willing to pay to unlock additional

00:02:18.900 information. And maybe more importantly, if customers don't have much information about a

00:02:22.540 potential match, it's more likely the date will go poorly, which is good for the dating app because

00:02:27.640 that means the customer won't get married and delete the app. What happened with dating apps

00:02:33.000 is they developed somewhat of a perverse incentive where if they succeed in matching you with someone

00:02:41.260 and that relationship works out well and you get married, well, then they've lost a customer

00:02:45.080 by definition. So it's actually better for them if it doesn't go well. Keep coming back to them.

00:02:51.400 So pretty much every dating app has settled on a similar strategy, and that's led to catastrophic

00:02:55.640 results. It's one of the reasons why the dating market now is a total disaster. Take a look at

00:02:59.980 the stock price of Match Group, which owns the vast majority of dating services, including Hinge,

00:03:05.780 Match.com, OkCupid, Plenty of Fish, and so on. They've consolidated the market to a large degree,

00:03:12.460 which obviously eliminates competition and led to the same kinds of problems across many different

00:03:17.480 apps. So here's the stock price, which you can see they're down roughly 80%. They've been steadily

00:03:25.040 buying up all their competitors, but it hasn't worked out. They even hired someone named Bernard

00:03:29.700 Kim, who used to run Zynga, the mobile games developer. Kim was an expert at getting people

00:03:34.980 addicted to simplistic and rigged games. So Match Group brought them on board for that reason,

00:03:40.580 to get them addicted to their apps.

00:03:43.220 Now, if you've noticed that dating apps

00:03:44.720 resemble online games or gambling,

00:03:47.500 well, that's why.

00:03:48.320 There's a reason for that.

00:03:49.560 But the plan didn't work.

00:03:51.160 Match Group continued to hemorrhage users.

00:03:53.440 So after a few years, they fired Kim

00:03:55.100 and they brought in a real estate executive

00:03:56.800 to lead the company.

00:03:57.880 Meanwhile, Match's chief competitor, Bumble,

00:04:00.460 isn't doing much better.

00:04:01.920 Here's their stock price over the last five years.

00:04:05.260 Again, pretty terrible.

00:04:07.440 It's something like a 90% drop.

00:04:10.580 there really isn't any dating service that's doing better.

00:04:13.260 These are the two top players.

00:04:14.820 Bumble's revenue last year fell by around 10%.

00:04:17.220 It lost nearly a billion dollars.

00:04:19.580 Tinder lost 8% of its subscribers.

00:04:21.640 Match lost 5% of its paying members.

00:04:24.180 Around 65% of Tinder users are men.

00:04:26.760 And the match rate for men is around 5%

00:04:29.580 compared to 44% for women.

00:04:32.100 Overall, according to Pew,

00:04:33.640 around half of women report receiving

00:04:35.360 an unsolicited graphic sexual image online,

00:04:38.620 something that predominantly happens, of course,

00:04:40.080 on dating apps. There's also plenty of data to suggest that despite the prevalence of dating

00:04:45.780 apps and the way their marketing pushes hookup culture, young people simply aren't going for it.

00:04:51.400 According to one survey, more than half of single American men had zero dates in 2025.

00:04:57.120 And the New York Post reports that, quote, Americans are losing interest in sex. A government

00:05:00.740 study has found a whopping 24% of males 22 to 34 had not had sex in 22, 23, up from 9% in 2013 to 15.

00:05:10.080 For females, that number was 13% up from 8%.

00:05:12.620 And when asked if they'd had sex in the last three months, 35% of men said no.

00:05:16.760 Another big jump from 20%.

00:05:18.160 Women didn't fare much better with 31% concurring, this time around up from 21%.

00:05:23.600 So it's a bit like the SSRI numbers.

00:05:27.240 SSRIs were introduced to make everybody happier and less depressed.

00:05:30.240 And now decades later, Americans are more depressed than ever.

00:05:35.040 And dating apps have followed a similar trajectory.

00:05:37.600 They were supposed to lead to more dates and marriages, hopefully, rather than just hookups.

00:05:44.700 But the opposite is happening.

00:05:47.240 So what exactly went wrong?

00:05:49.920 How have dating apps completely and utterly failed?

00:05:53.280 And many of the people watching this right now are well aware that they failed because you've tried them and they didn't work at all.

00:05:59.760 Now, one explanation involves an economic concept known as adverse selection.

00:06:04.760 Now, the idea is that whenever you go to buy a product that may have some hidden serious defect,

00:06:09.260 like a used car, for example, you tend to demand a big discount. That's why cars lose so much of

00:06:14.640 their value when you leave the dealership. Nothing wrong with your car, but other people don't know

00:06:19.300 that. They have no idea what you've done with it since you left the dealership, and that uncertainty

00:06:23.800 all by itself lowers the value of the car substantially. And for that reason, people who

00:06:27.920 own used cars in perfect condition are hesitant to sell. They hold on to their cars for a while

00:06:32.680 longer since they know that they know that they aren't holding a lemon. And the result is that

00:06:37.160 the market for used cars gets worse. More and more lemons enter the market. The way the car market

00:06:42.220 has dealt with this problem is by providing more information to buyers. Services like Carfax and

00:06:46.820 CarMax tell you about the car's accident history, they pass inspections, and so on.

00:06:52.660 As reporter Greg Rosalski with NPR's Planet Money has pointed out, a similar problem exists in the

00:06:58.900 online dating world, except it's not so easy to get a warranty or an inspection on a potential

00:07:04.480 date. And therefore, the information gap is enormous and remains high unless you commit to

00:07:09.400 a date and do plenty of research on your own. And again, the apps themselves have the incentive to

00:07:13.980 hide this information, which is what they do, so that you pay for it. Or even better for them,

00:07:19.160 really, you go on bad dates, you're back on the dating app. So what happens as a result? Well,

00:07:24.480 high quality men and women tend to get dissatisfied with the dating apps, just like people who own

00:07:29.480 used cars in perfect condition tend to get dissatisfied with the used car market.

00:07:33.480 And when those high quality men and women abandon the apps, a death spiral results. As Greg Rosalski

00:07:40.580 puts it, quote, like lemons driving good cars out of the used car market, maybe sleazeballs push

00:07:46.640 great catches out of dating apps and ultimately ruin the quality of the whole app experience.

00:07:50.580 So people go to a new app with the hopes of finding something better, and the cycle starts again.

00:07:56.040 Now, it goes without saying how an app like Tinder involves a significant information gap.

00:08:00.540 You're told to swipe right or left based on someone's photo, and that's basically it.

00:08:06.080 But because of the consolidation in the industry, every single app works like this now.

00:08:10.500 Didn't used to, didn't back in my day, but now it is. It does.

00:08:14.780 OkCupid used to have an in-depth questionnaire like eHarmony, complete with free messaging and so on.

00:08:19.780 it was primarily built as a website you'd access on your computer, you know, on your desktop instead

00:08:25.020 of a casual app on your phone. But that was too effective as it turns out. So when OkCupid was

00:08:30.600 purchased by Match Group, they got rid of all of those features. Watch. And this isn't just

00:08:35.780 theoretical. We can take the example of OkCupid, which has actually gone through a bit of a

00:08:40.120 transformation from being a dating app that dealt with this problem of bad apples a lot better than

00:08:45.960 the new school of dating apps into gradually becoming another Tinder clone. I found this

00:08:50.220 comment of someone who described their experience, and I think it captures quite well what's

00:08:54.880 going wrong with these apps. OkCupid used to be really great before they were sold off

00:08:59.540 to Match. Match is the company that owns Tinder and Hinge and all of the other ones. It was

00:09:04.220 a pretty simple concept that worked really well. Start people off by forcing them to

00:09:08.840 answer at a minimum like 25 matching questions around things like politics, religion, handling

00:09:15.500 money hygiene etc core factors that people would consider when dating essentially but the kicker

00:09:22.940 was that you also got to specify how you would like your potential match to respond to the same

00:09:27.980 question and you got to weight that response based on how much you cared about that particular

00:09:31.700 question after about 25 questions you could always get a large enough sample size to to match people

00:09:38.180 but it worked best at matching people that had answered over a hundred questions each it was like

00:09:43.020 magic, anyone with over an 80% match on that site always ended up being a surefire, amazing

00:09:48.740 conversation. It worked a little too well, so they bought it, and then they destroyed it.

00:09:53.840 They also nuked tons of other features that OkCupid used to have, including My Best Picture,

00:09:58.300 which allowed random people to decide which of your pictures looked best as a way of sort of

00:10:02.720 helping you out. There was also a feature that would let other people suggest edits to your

00:10:07.140 entire profile and play wingman to a degree, sort of. For obvious reasons, they got rid of that.

00:10:13.780 It helped too many people improve their matches. And then again, they go on dates. It works out.

00:10:19.960 They're no longer customers. They also got rid of Crazy Blind Date because it was too fun and

00:10:25.200 spontaneous. They eliminated events and public meetups, which were a way to meet people in a

00:10:30.160 more natural setting and bond over a shared hobby. The winks and awards and forums were deleted as

00:10:36.140 Well, in the old days, OkCupid would also tell you how likely someone was to reply to a message.

00:10:41.980 And it would even let people leave a review at the bottom of your profile after you went on a date,

00:10:46.600 which admittedly could have some unpredictable and undesirable results.

00:10:50.100 But it would definitely provide more information and some opportunity for hilarity to ensue as well.

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00:11:53.180 And by the way, when Match Group bought OKCupid,

00:11:56.380 something else was eliminated too.

00:11:58.500 A bunch of blog posts from the founders of OKCupid

00:12:01.420 were immediately erased.

00:12:03.540 Those blog posts included this one,

00:12:05.220 quote,

00:12:06.280 Why you should never pay for online dating.

00:12:09.220 Sites like Match and eHarmony are in business

00:12:10.880 to get you to buy a monthly subscription.

00:12:12.700 The result, the particular way these sites have chosen

00:12:14.820 to make money creates strange incentives for them.

00:12:17.800 The only way they don't make money

00:12:19.140 is to show subscribers to other subscribers.

00:12:21.560 It's the worst thing they can do for their business

00:12:23.240 because there's no potential for new profit growth there.

00:12:25.580 Remember, the average account length is just six months

00:12:28.400 and people join for big blocks of time at once.

00:12:30.700 So getting a new customer on board is better for them than squeezing another month or two out of a current subscriber.

00:12:37.380 This is the flowchart that OkCupid included in their blog post just to drive the point home.

00:12:43.560 Which you can see, the incentives, as you can see there, are completely backwards.

00:12:48.560 Because something like 95% of accounts aren't paying the subscription fee,

00:12:52.560 these websites want to avoid matching subscribers with other subscribers.

00:12:57.080 They want to grow the number of subscribers.

00:12:58.620 And the only way to do that is to match subscribers with non-subscribers, who in general are going to be less serious about the whole process.

00:13:06.720 It's fairly straightforward and intuitive to understand, but at the same time, at the time anyway, it was remarkable for OkCupid to post something like this.

00:13:15.940 And they posted blogs like this constantly.

00:13:18.360 OkCupid had one blog post which ran the numbers from Match.com's official disclosures and found that, quote,

00:13:23.860 it turns out you are 12.4 times more likely to get married this year if you don't subscribe to

00:13:30.040 Match.com. OkCupid was relentless in criticizing their competitors because unlike their competitors,

00:13:36.780 they were clearly invested in making money through advertising and they weren't interested

00:13:40.860 in a business model that strung their customers along. But all that changed when they were bought

00:13:45.820 out. So all of those blog posts were deleted. And now OkCupid resembles yet another Tinder clone.

00:13:53.860 It became precisely the thing that it had been publicly criticizing for years. 1.00

00:13:58.400 For high-quality, interesting, and mentally stable women who are interested in a long-term relationship, all of this is a major problem. 0.99

00:14:07.800 They had less and less reason to use OkCupid, so they abandoned the site.

00:14:14.260 And the guys were left with extremely annoying matches.

00:14:16.860 Pretty much every anecdotal video you'll find on any social media platform confirms that lemons, to continue the analogy, are indeed a major problem with these apps.

00:14:28.200 Watch.

00:14:29.300 You're between the ages of 21 and 35 right now and you are online dating.

00:14:33.220 I am here to tell you, you are wasting every single second that you are on those apps. 1.00

00:14:37.900 Okay, I've gone on numerous dates with women from those apps. 1.00

00:14:41.540 I have matched with God knows how many and they always end the same.

00:14:45.020 It's always them talking all about themselves.

00:14:47.940 They talk down to you. 0.96

00:14:49.300 Some of these girls feel like because they found you on a dating app, they feel like they're like above you.

00:14:54.620 They feel like they're not also on the same exact dating app.

00:14:57.500 They're like, oh, well, I'm just on here to see what my options are.

00:15:01.000 I'm just on here to, you know, do a little swiping.

00:15:03.080 So are you.

00:15:03.800 And they think they can talk down to you for that.

00:15:06.400 God forbid you actually say get on a date and then say something that they don't love every single aspect of. 0.97

00:15:12.900 And they're going to be like, they're going to say something like, oh, that's giving insert stupid ass adjective theory or era that they found off a tick tock to describe you in some negative way. 0.95

00:15:24.180 When in reality, you're just acting like a normal human. 1.00

00:15:26.340 OK, I can't tell you how many doors I have opened for these women.

00:15:29.980 And I hear as you should instead of thank you.

00:15:33.420 And there was one in specific.

00:15:34.820 I even said, like, you know, you can say thank you instead of as you should.

00:15:38.260 And she goes, you that's giving demanding.

00:15:40.260 and i go no it's just like you know common human respect and manners to say thank you when somebody

00:15:45.520 does something you can go on tiktok search for videos about dating apps and you'll find thousands

00:15:51.160 of videos like this one here's another the longer i've had dating apps the more i realize

00:15:57.480 how pointless they are um i've had dating apps for a long time right like i've been out of a

00:16:04.120 relationship for a while and you finally give in to that like okay i'll download hinge or i'll

00:16:09.580 download tinder and you know i have over 100 matches on both whatever it's but it never leads

00:16:14.920 to anything it's like oh i have this person's attention for 25 seconds or 20 20 minutes and then

00:16:22.580 they ghost you that's happened to me plenty of times and i've probably been evicted i've probably

00:16:27.340 done that myself to the little girl um there i just don't think there's a point in dating apps

00:16:31.500 like i feel like you scroll through a dating app and you're like oh that person's attractive

00:16:34.780 but you don't think like like you're not going to get with someone that you think is attractive

00:16:38.340 but not 10 out of 10, but you'll probably swipe on them. I just feel like dating apps are so

00:16:44.240 pointless now. Like I used to get on dating apps and it's like, all right, I want to find someone

00:16:48.080 and I want to go on a date and I want to do something with them. Now I don't even have

00:16:51.860 the motivation to go on them anymore. It's just, it's the same cycle match, get ghosted, match,

00:16:58.440 ghost, match, get their phone number, get ghosted. Now, seeing these videos, you might respond by

00:17:05.520 saying, well, the people who had bad experiences will be the most vocal. That's usually how it

00:17:10.480 goes. If somebody manages to find a great match on one of these services and then get married,

00:17:14.640 they probably aren't going to spend a lot of time doing positive testimonials on TikTok or

00:17:18.700 anything like that. I know I really didn't. TikTok didn't exist at the time. But still,

00:17:24.560 on the other hand, if someone is lonely and constantly striking out and going on dates

00:17:28.960 with horrible women, then there's a good chance he'll make a video about it. And many other

00:17:32.900 frustrated people will upvote those videos. Therefore, you might conclude we can't draw

00:17:37.040 any conclusions from these kinds of social media videos. You might conclude. But if that's your

00:17:42.400 response, you're ignoring the fact that there are many, many other signals all over social media

00:17:46.680 that this problem is indeed real. And not just on social media, talk to anyone. Talk to almost

00:17:52.560 anyone who uses dating apps these days, especially young men. You hear the same story from almost

00:17:57.240 everyone. It's like unanimous. And it's a bigger problem than just dating apps are bad or women are

00:18:04.340 insufferable now. The larger issue is that, as we've discussed many times on the show, it's become 0.97

00:18:09.240 extremely difficult for young men to own a home or to earn a living through hard work alone. The

00:18:14.480 market is a lot more competitive thanks to the tens of millions of foreigners who now live in 0.78

00:18:18.380 the United States. Artificial intelligence is eliminating entire career paths from customer 0.99

00:18:23.360 service jobs to computer programming and lots of things in between. We printed so much money

00:18:27.760 during COVID that inflation remains a drag on the economy. So financially speaking, a lot of young 0.99

00:18:34.100 men are not doing well. And then to compound the problem, dating apps decide to raise their

00:18:38.940 subscription fees to ridiculous amounts as a way of signaling to women that they're going to meet

00:18:43.540 a provider if they interact with paying members instead of someone who's struggling financially.

00:18:48.300 They've completely erased the OKCupid model where you didn't have to pay a fee.

00:18:53.240 And therefore, a lot of young men are simply giving up on dating and everything else.

00:18:58.000 And on top of that, also, we should note that one of the major problems with these dating apps,

00:19:02.080 especially the way they are now without the questionnaire, like the way they used to be,

00:19:05.660 and it's all in an app, but it's all visual.

00:19:07.740 And so you have women that are making determinations on who they're going to date,

00:19:11.720 just looking at a picture very briefly for like a second and then scrolling past it. 0.93

00:19:15.940 and that is totally unnatural. The dating market has never worked that way in the history of

00:19:20.540 humanity up until now. Women are not primarily visual. And so usually for thousands of years, 1.00

00:19:27.340 if you were a man and you wanted to attract a woman, being physically attractive would help.

00:19:34.540 That was one thing that you could use to try to attract a woman. But even if you weren't

00:19:39.020 very physically attractive, well, you were meeting women in the real world. And so things like,

00:19:45.940 your personality could come into play very quickly. If you meet someone and you're able

00:19:50.780 to talk to them and be conversational and you're funny, you get a chance to sort of use those

00:19:56.220 skills and use those facets of your personality to attract a mate. And now men aren't able to do

00:20:04.620 that. And so women are making these determinations in what's a really unnatural way for women and 1.00

00:20:10.480 that it's entirely visual. And men just, you have to hope that you have a good profile picture. 0.98

00:20:15.940 which is just never the way that it works.

00:20:18.520 So the deck, the card, the deck's stacked against you.

00:20:21.020 And this is one of the reasons

00:20:21.660 that the streamer known as Asmongold is so popular.

00:20:24.880 He's easily one of the most popular streamers

00:20:26.240 on YouTube right now.

00:20:27.740 And I'll admit that I don't follow his content

00:20:29.760 on a regular basis,

00:20:30.700 which is a mixture of political commentary and gaming.

00:20:34.040 From what I've seen, he's good at what he does,

00:20:36.320 but I do know that by his own admission,

00:20:38.280 one of the reasons for Asmongold's popularity

00:20:40.140 is that he represents a tremendous number

00:20:41.820 of young people in the country.

00:20:43.240 He talks about issues they care about,

00:20:44.540 and he does it without being pretentious or fake or condescending watch men are slowly giving up

00:20:51.200 and nobody cares that's not true i gave up super fast as soon as i realized i needed to have a job

00:20:57.100 i gave up yeah seven years old i was like i'm just not gonna make it guys sorry increasingly

00:21:03.540 more and more men are giving up giving up on relationships careers and society as a whole

00:21:08.580 resentment is growing unemployment this is why my stream is getting popular by the way

00:21:12.780 employment is becoming rampant yeah keeping your head above water seems almost impossible for many

00:21:18.340 men today yeah this is leading to more men than ever dropping out of society entirely and it's

00:21:23.600 not just that men are becoming infantilized with terms like adulting now becoming three stages of

00:21:29.180 adulting for men i think it's that people have been divorced from being able to hope for anything

00:21:33.860 better than what they already have that's the real reason like you see this all the time like

00:21:39.320 because it's true that working hard will make you like working hard will increase the probability

00:21:45.200 that you will be successful but i think that like the reason why video games are so popular and so

00:21:51.360 many young guys like video games is because video games provide a guarantee that if you grind and

00:21:58.900 you work hard at something you'll see a result whereas in real life a lot of times that doesn't

00:22:04.000 happen i think that it's actually like that's why young men are drawn to video games a lot

00:22:10.660 it's because they're an equal playing field in a way that nothing else in the world really

00:22:15.840 provides them i was obviously right about that particularly for white people the deck

00:22:19.720 is again stacked against you by dei affirmative action equity and so on the economy is going well

00:22:26.360 overall in terms of gdp in the markets but for competent men who are entering the workforce for

00:22:30.340 the first time, the economy has never been more brutal. So now the dating apps, which now make

00:22:36.000 all their money through subscriptions instead of advertisements, are focusing on established,

00:22:39.940 wealthier users. They're leaving the young men behind, like every other institution in the

00:22:44.700 country. That doesn't mean that young men don't have places to find young women. For one thing,

00:22:49.200 a lot of people are meeting via Instagram or TikTok now, better or worse. They're seeing

00:22:54.160 videos from people they like and sending them a message. But there's another much better way to

00:22:58.980 find a date, and it's becoming a lot more popular. This is from a recent article in the Washington

00:23:03.140 Post of all places. Quote, why Catholicism is drawing in young Gen Z men. Young men in their

00:23:10.220 20s and 30s are increasingly drawn to the Catholic Church as they seek truth, beauty, and yes,

00:23:14.120 girlfriends. Parishes and Catholic strongholds like New York, Washington, and Chicago have all

00:23:18.900 anecdotally reported renewed interests from young men, young people, particularly young men. The 6

00:23:24.100 p.m. Sunday Mass at St. Joseph's has become a hub for New York City's young Catholics. It's

00:23:28.660 pews full of young women wearing sweater sets and silver cross necklaces and young men with

00:23:33.560 biceps straining against sleeves of their polo shirts. A huge selling point is finding a potential

00:23:38.580 partner, said Anthony Gross, though he was rolling solo. The joke is that St. Joe's is the ultimate

00:23:44.380 place to date Catholics in York because it's all the young, beautiful people that go there,

00:23:49.540 said one parishioner. Now, this trend continues and young people start meeting in church again

00:23:54.540 instead of dating apps that are designed to get them addicted and waste their money

00:23:57.820 and make sure they don't have success,

00:24:00.640 then without a doubt, it will be a massive net positive for civilization.

00:24:04.680 Even if the dating apps hadn't become complete garbage,

00:24:07.460 this would still be the ideal outcome.

00:24:10.540 If you spend your time at church trying to find a girlfriend,

00:24:13.040 and you strike out, then, well, you're also at church.

00:24:18.000 There's a huge spiritual benefit to that.

00:24:20.700 And you're outside of your house as well.

00:24:22.660 At least you've been around other people listening to scripture instead of scrolling on your phone in a dark room and occasionally, you know, charging your credit card.

00:24:32.640 I know that may sound hypocritical coming from someone who met his wife on a dating site.

00:24:38.740 So to be clear, I'm not saying that no one should ever use a dating app, even the terrible ones that exist today.

00:24:44.780 But I am saying that the apps are not remotely similar to what existed even 10 or 15 years ago.

00:24:50.380 They are now targeting a very different audience.

00:24:54.160 And if you bulk at the fact that they're constantly raising their prices, then you're not part of that audience.

00:25:01.300 That doesn't mean you need to give up, but it does mean that you should take some notes from those Catholics at St. Joseph's and put the phone down.

00:25:08.880 That's what every young man and woman did throughout all of history.

00:25:12.740 There were no phones to put down, but they met out in the real world until about 15 seconds ago.

00:25:17.780 And if the dating apps are telling us anything, it's that it's time for millions of young people to revisit that approach once again.

00:25:34.200 I do believe that if people have committed treason against the United States of America, their statues should not be in the Capitol.

00:25:42.960 History is written by the victors, and since the 1960s we've been told mostly by people

00:25:47.880 whose ancestors didn't even live here during the war that the South committed treason.

00:25:53.480 But if the Confederates were traitors, then why was Jefferson Davis never put on trial

00:25:59.840 for treason?

00:26:00.840 What were Abraham Lincoln and Andrew Johnson afraid of?

00:26:05.400 Did they know something they're not allowed to say today?

00:26:10.160 It's time for the truth.

00:26:11.160 So here it is.

00:26:12.160 Robert E. Lee was a military genius and a man of immense honor.

00:26:15.720 He was beloved by Americans from the North and South for a century after the war.

00:26:20.560 This is the real history of the Civil War.

The Matt Walsh Show - April 15, 2026

The Dating App SCAM That Is Destroying The Dating Pool

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