The Matt Walsh Show - February 21, 2026


The Truth About White People No One Wants To Hear

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curiosity and exploration
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Matt Walsh
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Edmund Hillary Elizabeth Bond Daniel Boone Kit Carson Sherpa Tenzing Norgay Amendra Bishd Yuri Gagarin Joe Cotisol Eskimos Colleen
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In this episode of Mythology and Conspiracy Theories, Alex Blumberg is joined by Elizabeth Bond to debate whether or not there is any such thing as a white, Western culture, and if so, who was the first white person to conquer the highest peak on Earth and the deepest depths of the ocean.

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00:00:16.560 So, you know, a lot of what we do on the show is debunk myths,
00:00:19.980 dismantle false narratives and talk about the important facts,
00:00:24.580 especially about American history that people don't want you to know about.
00:00:28.740 And earlier this week on X, I commented on, and on the show,
00:00:33.800 I commented on the remarkable fact that the desire among Western people,
00:00:40.700 Europeans, Americans, white people, in other words, historically, 0.60
00:00:47.160 the desire for adventure and exploration is one of the things that makes them historically unique.
00:00:53.100 And so when we talk about Western culture,
00:00:57.740 AOC pretends that there's no such thing as white people.
00:01:01.020 There's no such thing as Western culture.
00:01:02.840 Well, that's part of what it is.
00:01:04.300 That's one of the things, one of the defining characteristics of it that sets it apart from other cultures. 0.98
00:01:08.340 I wrote earlier this week, Europeans and eventually Americans explored the entire world,
00:01:11.940 mapped and charted every ocean and populated landmass.
00:01:14.080 And then when they got bored in the 19th, 20th centuries,
00:01:15.940 decided they might as well go to the North Pole and down to Antarctica,
00:01:18.560 then up to the highest peak on Earth and down to the deepest depths of the ocean.
00:01:21.820 When all that was done, they went to space.
00:01:23.660 The greatest indictment of our education system is that most kids will graduate grade school
00:01:27.220 and then college without even the slightest appreciation of this absolutely remarkable story.
00:01:33.280 So nothing but pure facts there, just that all that is obviously true.
00:01:37.280 I'll read you some of the responses that I got to that, and we'll go through some of them.
00:01:42.560 Placentapod, don't know if that's his Christian name or not, writes,
00:01:45.940 Yes, so you want the learning target to be appreciate how much better my culture is than everyone else's?
00:01:53.320 Yeah, sort of.
00:01:55.540 Yeah, kind of.
00:01:56.600 Kind of.
00:01:57.100 You could say that.
00:01:59.160 A fundamental goal of the education system in the West should be to give children an appreciation
00:02:04.540 of the things that make Western civilization exceptional.
00:02:08.580 Yes, a fundamental goal of the education system in your civilization should be to instill in children,
00:02:15.040 instill in the next generation an appreciation of and a gratitude for your civilization.
00:02:21.680 That should not be scandalous.
00:02:24.280 That should just be obvious.
00:02:26.260 It should be one of those things that's so obvious it doesn't need to be said.
00:02:29.400 And yet it does. 1.00
00:02:32.880 Because you have idiots like this who say, 1.00
00:02:34.560 What, you want people to appreciate that our culture is better? 1.00
00:02:38.260 Of course I do.
00:02:39.840 Of course I do, because number one, it is better.
00:02:41.880 And number two, this is our culture.
00:02:44.760 It's our country here in America.
00:02:47.060 Yes, of course you want people to have that view of it.
00:02:52.420 Especially when it happens to be objectively true.
00:02:54.900 Elizabeth Bond responded with this.
00:03:01.380 The highest peak Everest was first conquered by a New Zealander, Edmund Hillary, and Nepalese-Indian,
00:03:07.940 Tenzing Norgay.
00:03:09.360 And in fact, most who went to conquer Everest today, who want to conquer it, will not make it without the aid of a Sherpa guide,
00:03:14.920 no matter how European they are.
00:03:16.480 By the way, you know that someone, when somebody starts, when someone writes something and they start what they have written with the words, 0.95
00:03:27.980 Ur or Um, you know that whatever follows is going to be the dumbest thing you've ever read. 0.97
00:03:32.920 You know it's going to be the dumbest, most pompous thing you've ever read. 0.96
00:03:35.320 When someone actually writes, Um, um, are you sure about that? 0.98
00:03:40.020 Ur, I don't know about that.
00:03:41.660 Yes, Edmund Hillary was from New Zealand.
00:03:48.480 Why do you think, what, you think he got me on that?
00:03:50.920 I said that exploration is, you know, it's Westerners who made it to the highest peaks and the lowest depths.
00:04:00.280 And you think he got, you think he got a gotcha?
00:04:02.900 Because it was actually, he was from New Zealand.
00:04:05.160 Gotcha there.
00:04:07.740 What do you think New Zealand is?
00:04:09.080 New Zealand is Western civilization.
00:04:13.040 New Zealand was settled by Europeans in the 19th century.
00:04:18.680 Okay.
00:04:19.200 That is Western culture.
00:04:21.660 Even if they're on the other side of the world geographically, how did they get there?
00:04:26.640 How do you think they got there?
00:04:28.720 Elizabeth?
00:04:30.500 These are Europeans who got there on ships. 0.72
00:04:33.180 Another amazing accomplishment of European, uh, civilization.
00:04:42.540 So if, if, if, if Edmund Hillary was a, was an aborigine, then you'd, then you'd have me. 0.94
00:04:50.100 If he was aborigine, then that would be, yeah, you'd, you'd, then you'd have me. 0.99
00:04:55.380 That would be a gotcha.
00:04:56.300 You'd have me on that one, but he wasn't.
00:04:57.800 Yeah, there are no aborigine explorers.
00:05:02.120 I'm afraid to tell you there are no aborigines going around the world, accomplishing anything. 1.00
00:05:07.880 Frankly, as for his, uh, Sherpa guide.
00:05:11.660 Sure.
00:05:11.860 He had a guide just like a lot of polar explorers had enlisted Eskimos.
00:05:15.560 Uh, sorry, Inuits to help them, um, you know, European settlers and conquerors in North America and South America and Central America. 1.00
00:05:25.240 They had native guides and translators that they used.
00:05:28.600 Yeah.
00:05:29.840 But that doesn't take away, uh, you know, the, uh, European explorers and, and, uh, settlers in the Pacific islands.
00:05:38.320 Again, had translators guides that doesn't take away from the fact that the Europeans are the ones who did all this. 0.52
00:05:46.640 In fact, it just kind of underscores really my point.
00:05:49.880 When you consider that there were natives who lived near Mount Everest, but never thought to climb it.
00:05:56.420 And you had natives who lived in the Arctic, never tried to make it to the North pole. 0.96
00:06:02.400 And you had natives who lived in what is now the continental United States, but never explored beyond their own territory.
00:06:08.320 And then Europeans come from half a world away from an entirely different world. 0.97
00:06:13.760 And they have more curiosity about these people's neighborhoods than they did.
00:06:22.240 And I think that that not only does that not undermine my point, but instead it underscores it.
00:06:29.860 Instead, it, it, it highlights my point.
00:06:31.540 I mean, that is my point.
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00:07:32.120 Amendra Bishd wrote, the drive to explore is a species trait.
00:07:38.760 Europe industrialized it.
00:07:40.600 Other civilizations pioneered it in different eras.
00:07:43.040 Modern space exploration is multinational.
00:07:45.140 The remarkable story isn't Western civilization alone.
00:07:48.080 It's human civilization, uneven, competitive, often brutal, but relentlessly expansionist.
00:07:53.400 Well, space exploration is multinational, but only in a way that again proves my point.
00:08:02.520 First of all, space exploration was pioneered by the United States and, and the Soviets.
00:08:10.080 Uh, and now the major players are the United States, uh, the European space agency, maybe
00:08:17.820 like Germany, then you do have other countries like Japan and China.
00:08:21.940 No African country has launched a person into space.
00:08:29.060 At all.
00:08:29.720 Um, no central or South American country has independently launched a person in a space.
00:08:35.360 There have been a few South, uh, I think it's a central South American country.
00:08:39.980 I meant to say no central, no African country has launched a person in a space independently.
00:08:43.660 No central South American country has launched a person into space independently.
00:08:47.340 There have been a few, I think South Americans who have gone to space, hitching a ride on someone 1.00
00:08:54.160 else's space program and their launch, but none of these countries have independently done
00:08:59.580 it.
00:09:00.800 Here we are 60 years after the first man went into space, Yuri Gagarin, Soviet, and they still
00:09:06.960 haven't done it.
00:09:07.460 So this again, kind of proves my point.
00:09:09.640 Japan and China obviously are not white Western countries.
00:09:13.320 Um, East Asian countries, China, Japan, South Korea are advanced.
00:09:18.460 Although even they never had, uh, an age of exploration the way that Europeans did. 1.00
00:09:24.880 You know, with a few except even them with a few exceptions, they, they mostly explored their
00:09:31.420 own regions, explored and conquered their own regions.
00:09:37.440 Um, the whole idea of like, I'm going to get in this ship and just go across this huge
00:09:43.780 ocean to a place where I don't even know where I'm going.
00:09:46.240 We're just going to go across this huge ocean, probably going to die on the way.
00:09:49.940 If we don't, we're going to end up in some other place.
00:09:52.020 I have no clue what it is, never been there.
00:09:53.980 And we're probably going to die there.
00:09:55.280 Like that, that is something that again, with a few exceptions from other parts of the world,
00:10:00.660 very few is, is something that was, was almost entirely unique to Western civilization.
00:10:09.380 No one else was doing this.
00:10:14.580 Uh, Joe Cutis says every one of those journeys was motivated by greed.
00:10:21.600 Okay.
00:10:23.040 It's not even worth responding to.
00:10:24.980 It was greed, greed motive.
00:10:26.740 First of all, even if that were true.
00:10:28.120 So when you, when you say greed, what you're talking about is the, the drive for resources,
00:10:35.860 which is not greed, by the way, in and of itself, an inordinate desire for material possessions.
00:10:44.360 That is greed.
00:10:46.060 Whether someone has an inordinate desire for it is that's, I can't say, I can't look inside their souls.
00:10:51.640 I especially can't do it 500 years after the fact, neither can you, but just getting in a ship
00:10:59.000 and going to another part of the world in search of resources, that's not greed.
00:11:03.920 That is need.
00:11:05.500 Like you need resources in order to exist, in order for your civilization to exist at all.
00:11:10.400 And so, yeah, like people had to do that back in the day.
00:11:16.060 I know these days you sit around at your house and you have Amazon prime show up and everything
00:11:22.000 is provided to you like magic.
00:11:24.220 You flip a light, you flip a switch, lights turn on, you pick up your phone.
00:11:28.400 It works, right?
00:11:29.820 You take it all for granted that, Hey, why would anyone ever need to get into a ship and
00:11:33.680 go to some other country, go to some other part of the world looking for resources?
00:11:37.940 Why? 1.00
00:11:38.280 Oh, those greedy bastards. 1.00
00:11:39.480 Why didn't they just go to their fridge and open it? 1.00
00:11:44.140 Why couldn't they just go to their, um, go to their cupboard and open it and all the
00:11:47.600 spices are right there.
00:11:50.120 What are they doing?
00:11:50.960 Go to all these other places looking for spices.
00:11:55.060 Yeah.
00:11:55.420 That's the way that it used to work.
00:11:57.860 These things that you take totally for granted back hundreds of years ago, this was like people,
00:12:05.200 people died for it.
00:12:09.480 Um, and that's not greed.
00:12:12.720 That is, that is, that was just necessary in order to survive.
00:12:15.540 But that's also not the primary thing that drove, um, that these explorers and, and, and
00:12:24.100 pioneers.
00:12:24.640 That's, it's, it's not, that's not what drove it.
00:12:28.860 The primary thing that drove it was in many cases, curiosity, like wanting to see what's
00:12:35.840 there, going to a place just to see what's there.
00:12:41.200 I mean, Europeans had a deep hunger to just understand the world that they lived in.
00:12:47.740 What does this world look like?
00:12:49.280 What else is here?
00:12:50.140 How big are these oceans?
00:12:52.140 What other land is there?
00:12:54.360 They just wanted to know.
00:12:56.460 A desire to know for its own sake is what drove a lot of this.
00:12:59.940 And also a desire to spread the gospel.
00:13:02.060 They were, they were driven by, uh, Christian, by their Christian virtue and their Christian, 0.90
00:13:08.480 uh, principles.
00:13:09.600 And by the call that we all have as Christians to go forth and spread the gospel.
00:13:15.620 And that is, that's also what drove a lot of it.
00:13:18.420 Uh, finally, Colleen writes, yeah, well, the obscure Eskimo who assisted in the effort
00:13:22.520 gets the Google homepage recognition, especially if she, if it's a she, the guy who achieved 0.69
00:13:27.520 the extraordinary thing is ignored entirely.
00:13:30.260 Yeah, exactly.
00:13:31.160 I mean, that's why the average kid in school probably knows more about Sacagawea than,
00:13:37.400 than they do about somebody like Kit Carson or Daniel Boone.
00:13:43.160 Um, they probably never even heard of Kit Carson, maybe not Daniel Boone either.
00:13:49.120 And the average kid in school, cause the education system is a failure.
00:13:51.600 They also probably don't know much about Sacagawea, but they probably at least know,
00:13:54.900 they know a thing or two.
00:13:56.400 They know that she existed.
00:13:58.700 Um, and that's one of the most tragic things about the anti-white, anti-male obsession of
00:14:03.780 our media and our education system, especially is that there are so many fascinating stories
00:14:08.740 out there that are never told.
00:14:11.600 Uh, there are so many incredible people, uh, so many incredible men worthy of admiration
00:14:19.120 who achieved these unimaginable feats.
00:14:25.180 And we don't even know about it, or the average American doesn't know about them because, you
00:14:32.040 know, the stories are not diverse.
00:14:35.560 That, I mean, I'm not telling you anything you don't already know, right?
00:14:37.720 That, that, that, that is the, the reason why most of the greatest and most important stories
00:14:44.940 in the history of the United States and of Western civilization more broadly are never told.
00:14:49.760 Um, the, the, the reason simply is that the, the heroes of those stories are for the most
00:15:00.040 part white and even worse for the left, for the most part, white men.
00:15:07.100 And so that's hundreds of years of history that we just can't, if you're going to talk
00:15:13.600 about it, you got to find, find a different hero for the story, find someone else, find
00:15:18.600 the random Eskimo, even if you have to invent her, it doesn't matter.
00:15:21.820 Just like find someone can't be this white guy.
00:15:27.060 That's the tragedy of it, but not to make this all one big commercial, but that's one
00:15:31.600 of the, uh, reasons why we created my series, real history, um, where we tell the real story
00:15:37.480 of American history and world history.
00:15:39.620 That's why it's really important to do.
00:15:41.420 Someone has to do it.
00:15:42.400 We're doing it.
00:15:42.980 And you should go right now to dailywire.com, become a subscriber and watch the series.