The Matt Walsh Show - May 29, 2023


What Are Realistic Standards To Have When Dating?


Episode Stats

Length

8 minutes

Words per Minute

212.07454

Word Count

1,836

Sentence Count

105

Misogynist Sentences

6

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

In this episode, we discuss the modern dating scene and how we should approach dating in the modern culture. How should we approach dating? What are the phases of dating and when should we move on to the next step in a relationship?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Well, now time for everyone's favorite part of the day, maybe, the members block.
00:00:05.540 And this is where we read some emails from people asking for advice and various things.
00:00:10.240 What do we got?
00:00:11.280 From V.
00:00:12.580 Dear Mr. Walsh, I have wanted to send an email or comment for some time,
00:00:16.460 but I've always felt I'd had nothing good to ask.
00:00:19.200 However, now I have a question and have asked friends this,
00:00:21.900 and their opinions bother me, and I feel strongly I am in the right.
00:00:24.920 I'm asking to know if my opinions are vindicated
00:00:27.080 or if I am simply being unreal in my expectations.
00:00:29.240 So here it is.
00:00:30.660 I am a Christian man and have been for the last eight years.
00:00:33.040 I've been in one church this entire time,
00:00:34.720 and over the years I've found little or no love interest in my church.
00:00:38.240 For the few I have tried, they usually fell flat
00:00:40.620 because of a difference in opinion on how a courtship should go.
00:00:43.580 I believe that when you're dating someone,
00:00:44.960 you should not be talking to other potential love interests like you're at a grocery store.
00:00:48.680 I'm not talking about in a dating relationship.
00:00:50.420 I'm talking about simply devoting yourself to the person you wish to get to know
00:00:53.360 and maybe potentially date.
00:00:55.000 If I'm interested in a woman, for instance,
00:00:56.640 I would not talk to other women with the intention to date them as well.
00:01:00.520 However, it seems in today's culture, women and men court multiple people at a time
00:01:04.340 and then choose what appears to be the best option for themselves.
00:01:07.460 I don't necessarily find this to be wrong,
00:01:09.280 but I feel like if you like someone and are getting to know them
00:01:11.920 with the intention of dating them in the future,
00:01:13.900 you should not be getting to know other potential suitors at the same time.
00:01:16.440 Your thoughts and advice on this would be appreciated.
00:01:18.480 Well, so you're running into the problem.
00:01:21.080 This is one of the classic fundamental problems with the modern dating scene,
00:01:26.220 which we've talked about plenty of times,
00:01:28.320 which is that nobody knows what to call anything.
00:01:30.760 Nobody knows what to label anything.
00:01:32.440 We've had this idea that it's bad to label.
00:01:36.440 We don't want to put labels on things.
00:01:38.140 And we certainly don't want any idea of roles or responsibilities in a relationship
00:01:42.280 and certainly not in a relationship between a man and a woman.
00:01:44.980 And because we've decided that as a culture, what we end up with is a dating scene
00:01:49.740 where nobody knows what's going on.
00:01:52.560 Like nobody has any idea.
00:01:54.940 They're talking to somebody.
00:01:56.520 They don't know, like, what are the phases of it?
00:01:58.820 Where is this supposed to go?
00:02:00.180 What's the point?
00:02:01.080 And if there are phases or steps in the relationship,
00:02:05.540 when do we reach to the next step?
00:02:07.660 And how do we know we're there?
00:02:09.120 And, you know, like, what is this exactly?
00:02:11.620 So every man is wondering this and every woman's wondering this.
00:02:13.780 When they're sitting down to eat with, you know, the other person,
00:02:17.660 they're both sitting there thinking, like, what is this right now?
00:02:20.280 And what's the point of it?
00:02:21.860 And is this a thing?
00:02:24.300 Is it not a thing?
00:02:25.040 These are all questions that plague, I think, the modern dating scene.
00:02:28.440 They come into focus in your question.
00:02:32.280 Because my answer would be that if you're actually dating someone,
00:02:36.700 which would, I guess, be the modern analog for courtship,
00:02:40.480 although I think we should just get back to calling it that, courtship,
00:02:43.160 which is the process of, you know,
00:02:45.480 when you have found someone that you want to marry,
00:02:47.780 it's the process leading up to marriage.
00:02:50.440 Or rather, you know, we should say leading up to engagement,
00:02:54.700 which then leads to marriage.
00:02:56.120 In courtship, you both know, you're with one person,
00:02:59.040 and you know that the intention is to kind of figure out
00:03:02.660 whether you're going to get married.
00:03:05.440 It's a time of discernment between the two of you,
00:03:07.620 which is what dating allegedly kind of is supposed to be.
00:03:10.620 And if you're in that stage, then, yeah,
00:03:13.240 you shouldn't be talking to anybody else,
00:03:15.180 talking to anybody else in the sense of, like,
00:03:16.980 you shouldn't be, you know, still perusing the options,
00:03:19.560 because it doesn't work unless you're committed to that person
00:03:22.900 and trying to discern and figure out whether this is going to work
00:03:26.420 as a marriage.
00:03:27.660 But if you're not officially dating and you're still in the phase
00:03:33.620 of just, like, trying to meet people
00:03:35.520 and figure out who you want to date
00:03:37.540 to then lead, hopefully, to engagement and to marriage,
00:03:41.380 then, well, of course, you're going to talk to other people.
00:03:45.480 It's because how else would it work?
00:03:47.620 It's like, are you going to, you know,
00:03:48.980 so that you strike up one conversation with a woman
00:03:51.880 and you think there might be something there,
00:03:53.360 and so then you're not going to talk to anybody else
00:03:55.640 until you figure out it just doesn't work that way.
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00:04:54.920 You mentioned the word suitors.
00:04:56.460 Well, like going back to,
00:04:57.440 if we're going to go back to the old-fashioned way
00:04:59.120 of doing these things, which was better,
00:05:01.140 you had, you know, a woman had suitors
00:05:04.060 and then we landed on one arrangement
00:05:06.460 and that leads to courtship.
00:05:08.320 But, you know, there are going to be multiple suitors.
00:05:10.420 So I guess you kind of have to figure out
00:05:12.100 what it is first
00:05:12.900 and you have to be not afraid to put a label on it.
00:05:15.660 You have to know, like,
00:05:17.080 is this officially dating or not?
00:05:18.620 Are we official?
00:05:19.520 You know, people don't want to ask these things.
00:05:21.660 It's always awkward to,
00:05:23.140 like, what do you say to someone?
00:05:24.300 Would you be my girlfriend?
00:05:25.460 Like, it sounds very high school,
00:05:27.140 but you have to have some way of establishing
00:05:29.760 that, okay, we are actually dating right now.
00:05:31.680 That's what this is.
00:05:32.720 It sounds to me like you're, you know,
00:05:35.220 you're not establishing that
00:05:37.400 with any of these women that you're talking to.
00:05:39.520 If it's not established that you're officially dating,
00:05:41.440 then you can't be upset at ever talking to other people.
00:05:44.780 You know, they have no commitment to you whatsoever.
00:05:46.700 All right, we'll do one more.
00:05:48.900 This is from Liz.
00:05:50.820 It says,
00:05:51.140 Dear Matt and Sean,
00:05:52.040 My husband, 34 male, and I, 35 female,
00:05:55.120 are recently married.
00:05:56.120 We're wanting to have a baby in the next few years,
00:05:57.700 but we have some fertility concerns
00:05:59.120 due to our ages and reproductive health issues.
00:06:01.140 I started birth control at a young age, 18 years old,
00:06:03.260 and only recently have come off of it.
00:06:04.740 I was told by my parents, doctors, and peers
00:06:06.440 that this is what we're supposed to do
00:06:07.740 so you can go to college, get a job,
00:06:09.400 become established, et cetera,
00:06:10.260 and then later get married and have kids.
00:06:12.120 Now it's looking like I won't be able
00:06:13.340 to have kids in the future
00:06:14.280 and wanted to know your thoughts
00:06:15.500 on adoption and fostering.
00:06:17.100 As much as we really want to have
00:06:18.360 our own biological child,
00:06:19.600 that may not be an option for us.
00:06:21.800 Is adoption or fostering a child worth pursuing?
00:06:24.280 My husband and I are by no means wealthy
00:06:25.760 and we both must work full time.
00:06:27.880 Any advice you could give
00:06:28.660 would be greatly appreciated.
00:06:30.300 Thanks so much and love listening to your show.
00:06:32.720 Yeah, this is,
00:06:33.620 it's important that people hear your story too
00:06:35.740 because there's many stories like this.
00:06:37.160 Young women sold this story about birth control,
00:06:40.640 the magic pill that solves all your problems.
00:06:42.980 And it's like, there's no trade-offs at all.
00:06:45.340 Just take the pill.
00:06:46.160 You don't have babies.
00:06:47.120 And then because it's too early
00:06:49.900 and you haven't established yourself.
00:06:51.180 And then down the line,
00:06:52.060 whenever you want to have kids,
00:06:52.860 you can have kids.
00:06:53.560 But what it turns out
00:06:54.840 that it's not always that easy
00:06:56.460 and that there are,
00:06:57.520 it ends up being a trade-off in so many cases.
00:06:59.760 And it's a tragedy too
00:07:00.940 because it's a trade-off
00:07:01.980 that you might not understand
00:07:04.160 was a trade-off until it becomes apparent.
00:07:07.180 So, I mean, hopefully,
00:07:08.140 and there are,
00:07:08.980 if you have fertility issues
00:07:10.920 and all the rest of it,
00:07:11.640 I'm sure you're looking into,
00:07:13.020 you know, you're talking to doctors and everything.
00:07:14.980 So hopefully for you,
00:07:16.260 it'll still turn out
00:07:17.580 that you can conceive a child.
00:07:19.780 But if you can't,
00:07:20.960 what about the option of adoption and fostering?
00:07:23.440 Well, I obviously can't tell you
00:07:26.120 whether that's the right option for your family,
00:07:28.740 but it's absolutely something worth investigating
00:07:32.100 and certainly talking about and praying about.
00:07:34.460 Adoption is a beautiful vocation
00:07:37.940 and it's something that's very much needed.
00:07:41.580 You know, if you're the adopted parent of a child,
00:07:44.120 then you are the parent.
00:07:45.380 If you're the adopted mother,
00:07:46.380 you are the mother.
00:07:47.440 And, you know,
00:07:47.820 it's just as much as if you conceive the child yourself.
00:07:51.640 So, yeah, I would absolutely think about that
00:07:54.780 and pray about it
00:07:56.240 and, you know,
00:07:57.020 have a period of discerning about that as well.
00:07:58.700 You know, I've said before,
00:08:00.040 I've said many times
00:08:00.680 that I think every married couple
00:08:02.860 is called to parenthood.
00:08:07.220 You know, every woman is called to be a mother.
00:08:09.820 Every man is called to be a father.
00:08:12.460 And in many cases,
00:08:13.960 that is going to mean,
00:08:15.520 like in the biological sense of conceiving a child.
00:08:18.360 But not in every case,
00:08:19.500 there are other ways of being a mother
00:08:22.820 and of being a father.
00:08:24.020 And of course,
00:08:25.040 one of the most obvious ways is through adoption.
00:08:26.560 So, good questions there
00:08:28.980 and we will leave it there for today.
00:08:31.240 Talk to you tomorrow.
00:08:32.380 Godspeed.
00:08:32.660 Giving yourself to me
00:08:34.680 can never be wrong
00:08:36.420 if the love is true.