Ruthless's Michael Duncan, Josh Holmes, and the man known to the Twitter world as comfortably smug join host Megyn Kelly to discuss the latest in the race for governor of Virginia between Democrat Terry McAuliffe and Republican Lt. Gov. Ralph Northam.
00:35:08.740He says you're seeing a power dynamic be established.
00:35:12.040You're about to get paid multi-millions of dollars.
00:35:14.740A job interview generally has a power dynamic.
00:35:16.980I mean, for him to be like, OK, you're at the combine and they're timing how quick you run 40 yards to slavery.
00:35:24.760I mean, it denigrates the history of slavery where people were forced or taken from their families and he's comparing them to people getting multi-million contracts.
00:35:50.340I mean, look, this is Colin Kaepernick is one of the most deeply of his time characters that I can think of in that the progressive left has become over the last 10 years entirely a victimhood culture.
00:36:05.040And you cannot have any control of your own destiny.
00:36:09.420It's all predestined by people who are, you know, controlling what you do, what you think, where you can go, how much money you can make, which is, you know, the exact opposite of the American dream and everything the conservatives fight for on a day-to-day basis.
00:36:22.440But where that goes now, extrapolated out, is that there's a constituency for it, right?
00:36:27.900And I find it so fascinating, so fascinating that Netflix, which is twisting itself into knots to try to defend Dave Chappelle, is now encountering zero resistance from the mainstream media about something like that, which is, I mean, I don't know anyone who doesn't find something like that deeply, deeply offensive.
00:36:47.240It's so, so he, just a couple of points on it.
00:36:50.200It's, by the way, it's called Colin in black and white, if you care to waste your time watching it.
00:36:55.580They, he says, okay, you heard the line, what they don't want you to understand, this is the NFL, is what's being established is a power dynamic.
00:37:03.540And of course it's like, yes, and you are a player trying, you know, like, are the players supposed to be the ones who cast themselves into the role of teammate?
00:37:11.840Or do we understand that there's a management structure and an ownership structure that is responsible for drafting you and picking you?
00:37:18.380Then he goes on, before they put you on the field, teams poke, prod, and examine you, searching for any defect that might affect your performance.
00:38:02.000So he makes it sound like they're doing strip searches of the players.
00:38:05.620And this is where he makes the leap to slavery.
00:38:08.140So, I mean, it's just the absurdity to compare what he willingly went through.
00:38:13.020And by the way, I'm told that in his role as, you know, former quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers, his deal wound up being worth forty three million dollars to being a slave is a real F you America moment.
00:38:29.180And I think it's an F you Colin Kaepernick moment.
00:38:31.680I can't believe somebody at Netflix didn't get up and walk their asses out over this bullshit propaganda about our country, the NFL, white people in general.
00:38:45.860Not to mention the fact that he's making literally tens of millions of dollars from Nike, which is operating in a five iron away from a concentration camp.
00:39:09.160I mean, he's been the beneficiary of outrage that he alone has created that he's parlayed into multiple contracts with massive corporate entities, all of which have their own moral dilemmas.
00:39:23.040He's laughing all the way to the bank.
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00:40:31.760All right, guys, so I've been following the Alec Baldwin thing.
00:40:34.060It's kind of interesting just to watch how it plays out and how the media covers it, right?
00:40:37.980And it's been, in my estimation, a pretty quick rush to cover for him, downplay his role in it.
00:40:42.900And I realize he did not intend to shoot the cinematographer on set of his movie, Rust, which is now not going to come out, he says.
00:40:50.380But he did take a gun on set and point it at somebody, and it went off.
00:40:57.040I don't know whether he pulled the trigger or if it went off accidentally, but it went off.
00:41:00.940And you are not supposed to point a gun at somebody, even if you believe it's loaded with blanks or dummy rounds as an actor on set.
00:41:08.860So there is some potential culpability on his part there.
00:41:12.020And he was a producer of this movie, which had multiple safety violations, according to reports.
00:41:17.040So he's in it. He's in the hot seat, potentially legally, as we discussed with Alan Dershowitz yesterday.
00:41:23.400Media loves to cover for somebody like Alec Baldwin because not because he's a Hollywood celebrity.
00:41:28.980I doubt they'd be doing this for Clint Eastwood.
00:41:31.320It's because he's a lefty and he's a committed lefty and he hates Trump.
00:41:35.520And he literally was the embodiment of Trump for Saturday Night Live and ripped him to shreds.
00:41:40.260And I think their instinct with somebody like that is cover, cover, cover.
00:41:43.760Now, when it's a real life police officer like Kim Potter, who makes a mistake, higher charge of responsibility, not trying to say it's the same thing.
00:41:53.280But we saw that woman's mistake unfold on national television when she accidentally discharged her firearm instead of her taser.
00:42:53.360Um, she now is going on trial, guys, uh, facing 15 years or more.
00:43:00.800Prosecutors saw prosecutors have sought an upward departure in the sentencing guidelines for this cop who doesn't have some long history of problems.
00:43:10.360They want her thrown away without the key and couldn't care less that it was an accident or not.
00:43:17.940And to me, it just sort of shows the difference in how our society is leaning right now.
00:43:22.460At least the leftists are leaning when it comes to accidental awfulness, right?
00:43:35.200Well, look, I mean, both are incredibly tragic events, right, Megan?
00:43:39.500I mean, these are, these are, are areas where people lost their lives.
00:43:43.260I see them totally differently in the Potter case.
00:43:46.220I think this is one of the, of the moment issues that we are facing as a society when it comes to police and doing their job, right?
00:43:54.300This is a situation, clearly she's made a mistake.
00:43:57.280Uh, and if she made a mistake in close proximity to all of the public outrage that would follow the George Floyd, uh, murder in Minneapolis, um, the proximity of it alone has caused prosecutors to take this incredibly seriously.
00:44:13.060As you said, I didn't know this, but, but if they're seeking enhanced sentencing guidelines, that seems absolutely absurd, but it is part of the national dialogue that we, that we are having.
00:44:23.700We as conservatives, I think need to provide a better balance on this and speak to these issues a little bit more specifically than, than just the fact that crime's rising, right?
00:44:34.440We all know that we also have an obligation to defend law enforcement officers in my view, who are out there risking their lives, trying to keep our communities safe and know that accidents do happen.
00:44:46.580And they're thrown into complicated situations.
00:44:49.920I mean, obviously the media would like to focus on an accidental discharge and not, you know, a suspect fleeing, right?
00:44:57.000Or you have these other cases where you remember the knife attack where there were the two young women were LeBron tweeted about and, and, and this one girl is, has the other girl pinned against a car and she has a knife and she is shot by an officer responding on the scene to a high pressure situation where you have to make snap judgments.
00:45:17.380These officers have a very, very hard job.
00:45:19.420When the media reported it, no one was talking about the knife.
00:45:21.420There were media people who are saying it was just, you know, it's just a childhood knife fight, which is the wildest thing.
00:45:28.020I mean, I don't recall any knife fights from my childhood.
00:45:30.100So I guess, I guess I, I say that, I say that as another sort of answer to your question, Megan.
00:45:34.820And that is like also the media, you know, in the aftermath of George Floyd has really changed the way that they report out these stories.
00:45:44.860And I mean, I think part of it is to generate more outrage and to generate more clicks and more revenue.
00:45:50.520And to take something as, you know, horrific and a tragedy, an accidental discharge to this level where now we're in court trying to enhance punishments, I think reflects that, that change in the way that the discussion is, is, has, happens through the media.
00:46:09.960We used to be able to look and see an accident and identify as an accident, as a terrible human failing in the moment and not try to pretend it's something akin to murder.
00:46:21.640And that's, I think what should happen in the case of Kim Potter was clearly an accidental discharge and she should not be thrown in jail for 15 plus years.
00:46:29.360And nor should Alec Baldwin, even though he, he'll have to answer for why he did point the gun.
00:46:34.660In any event, all of it plays out in the national eye and as does Ruthless with Michael Josh and Comfortably Smug, the ever elusive.
00:46:42.680Thanks so much for being with us, you guys.
00:46:57.440Joining me now is Selena Zito, a columnist for the Washington Examiner and a reporter who has traveled all over the country talking to everyday folks, including in Virginia, the battleground state voting today on its next governor.
00:47:10.060We're going to talk about Virginia, yes, but also the media's meltdown around Tucker Carlson's January 6th documentary.
00:47:17.860You can find all of Selena's work, by the way, at Selena, S-A-L-E-N-A-Z-O-Z-I-T-O dot com.
00:48:13.860I guess Larry's lost his marbles, but playing right into the McAuliffe closing message of playing the race card, trying to stir up minority voters in Virginia to fear Glenn Youngkin and his supporters as some sort of white nationalists.
00:48:29.840I saw this behavior with Dr. Sabato beginning in 2015.
00:48:34.640And it's sort of part of, you know, what I've talked about.
00:48:39.020What I think about a lot is our cultural curators, people that are leaders in corporations, institutions, large media, academia, and sports entities who sort of live in the same super zip codes and do not share the same values as the people that they either are trying to sell something to or are trying to get their butts in their seats or are trying to instruct them on things that they're supposed to be experts on.
00:49:07.240And, you know, if Dr. Sabato had spent any time at all listening to voters, he would have understood that this election cycle has absolutely nothing to do with race.
00:49:21.760It's a very locally driven, it's a very locally driven, localism driven election cycle that has to do with things that have to do with family, education, community, crime and safety.
00:49:33.460And those are the top issues with voters and and to to just dismiss it out of hand as being about race, which is something that unfortunately happens in our profession a lot, sort of takes away the values of what is important to voters.
00:49:56.160Well, I mean, to me, there is an element of race on the ballot, but it's not with respect to, oh, white nationalists versus, you know, people who want to fight racism.
00:50:05.100It's about the infiltration into our K through 12 schools of this very divisive ideology and method of teaching that white people are oppressors.
00:50:14.960Black people are the oppressed, which both both sides, both colors, both all groups find offensive.
00:50:21.480Right. Black people don't want no longer want to be told no more want to be told that they're oppressed than white people want to be told they're the oppressors, especially children who have nothing to do with any of this.
00:50:29.740So I think that is definitely one of the things being debated down there, but not in the way that he dismisses if McAuliffe loses.
00:50:38.140It's a it's basically a white backlash, which is what he said.
00:50:41.840Now, let me ask you about this, because the CRT problem down in Virginia is the same CRT problem we're having in states across this country where this this terrible ideology is being taught to children as young as five and six years old.
00:50:55.940And if you listen to our media right now, I mean, if you were to listen, well, forget McAuliffe, Biden, our education secretary, Cardona, just went on the view and said we don't teach CRT in schools K through 12.
00:51:08.260It's a lie. It's a lie. As a mom of three young school children, I can tell you it's 100 percent true that they're teaching some derision of of CRT in our schools.
00:51:19.820I don't care what you call you if it's classical law school, critical race theory. Who gives a shit? It's some it's some relative of that, but they deny it.
00:51:29.040And I'll just give you one example this morning. So I every morning I listen to the left and the right podcast and I read the left and the right.
00:51:35.820And this morning I did my daily listen to NPR's podcast. And here was how they were covering the Virginia race and CRT.
00:51:42.480Virginia's odd year elections are often seen as representative of national trends. Democrat Terry McAuliffe was governor once before and campaigned on his past performance.
00:51:52.140Republican Glenn Youngkin is a former private equity CEO who picked up Republican criticism of schools, often criticizing them for things the schools don't teach.
00:52:01.420We did see very different strategies for animating the base. For Youngkin, that means drawing on conservative anxieties around education.
00:52:08.260At a packed rally at an airport hangar, he first cited Martin Luther King Jr. saying we should judge people based on their character, not race.
00:52:16.300Then he said schools were teaching students to view everything through the lens of race.
00:52:20.340And so on day one, I will ban critical race theory from being in our schools.
00:52:25.440And it's worth noting here that critical race theory isn't actually in Virginia's K through 12 curriculum.
00:52:31.000OK, so he's going to ban a thing that isn't happening.
00:52:33.500Is Terry McAuliffe, the Democrat, even bothering to respond to that or do people in Virginia get it like this is not real?
00:52:49.780And it really sort of is an example of lack of critical or, you know, just sort of going in and finding out what's happening rather than saying how you feel about something as a reporter.
00:53:05.420You know, there's there's a lack of intellectual curiosity.
00:53:08.640Let's go in and find out what's going on.
00:53:10.880Let's go in and see if this is happening.
00:53:13.160And then the other problem is, Megan, and I think this is important to point out, is that a lot of these reporters who, again, as I talked about, live in these sort of super zip codes and, you know, sort of share values with a lot of things that are important to Democrats, might not even see it as critical race theory.
00:53:35.220They might look at that and say, oh, this is how I feel.
00:54:06.340My children are now in private school and are thriving.
00:54:09.340We had specifically moved into a case out of LCPS due to the swift and uncompromising political agenda of superintendents Williams, Ziegler, and the school board that have forced upon us.
00:54:20.220First, it was in early spring of 2020 when my six-year-old somberly came to me and asked me if she was born evil because she was a white person, something she learned in a history lesson at school.
00:54:29.620Then you kept the schools closed for a year and a half despite the science indicating that it was safe for kids to return.
00:54:34.780And now you've covered up a rape, then arrested, humiliated, and falsely accused her parents of being domestic terrorists.
00:54:40.520I wish I could return my kids to LCPS.
00:54:42.960Private school is expensive and I want my kids to be able to walk home from school with their friends in their own community.
00:54:48.200I refuse to allow you to destroy our schools.
00:55:04.760So here's an interesting thing, Megan.
00:55:06.800I actually wrote about this last year.
00:55:09.040This movement away from how, you know, sort of Democrats and how critical race theory has been presented began very granularly when parents were all of a sudden at home with their children in 2020.
00:55:28.000And they're hearing and seeing in a more intimate and in-your-face way of how their children were being taught and what they were being taught.
00:55:38.500And then that sort of snowballed into all of a sudden realizing, oh, my goodness, look how much power a school board has over my children in terms of what they learned.
00:55:49.260And then another layer was at is look how much power a teacher's union has.
00:55:54.540And so this the building blocks of this movement began, I would argue, in the spring of 2020 and has just continued to snowball as parents have understood the influence that that has been sort of taught to their their children in a way that they didn't understand when they sent their kids off to school.
00:56:16.060Yeah. And this is a massive dodge and massive gaslighting by the Democrats and the media who are trying to tell us that critical race theory is not taught in K through 12.
00:56:27.500You can call it whatever the hell you want.
00:56:34.480What's real is that woman, six year old, was taught that she's evil because she's white, that in my kid's school, the teachers were told that in every classroom where white children learn, there is a future killer cop.
00:56:46.420And then you've got reporting by Azra Namani, who's part of Parents Defending Education, a great, great group who's just come out with a piece saying in Fairfax County Public Schools, that's Virginia, but this could be any county America.
00:56:58.960She's been provided with documents showing that one of their staffers, Rob Kerr, has been teaching a weekly two hour course to the teachers.
00:57:07.520Why do they want the teachers to have this education so they can impart it to the children?
00:57:10.840They can go into the school armed with this information at Marshall High School in Virginia called How to Be an Anti-Racist Educator.
00:57:44.000All white people are intrinsic oppressors of minorities and especially black people.
00:57:49.360Education officials and politicians are denying all of this.
00:57:51.960Right. But but this particular woman, Bettina Love, has got a long history of problematic teachings that go on and on about how dangerous white people are, how white people are to blame for the oppression of black people.
00:58:05.820And I could go on and on with a long list of all the stuff that she has said.
00:58:08.980But it's divisive and it's problematic.
00:58:10.600And it's what's got parents so outraged, Selena.
00:58:13.840And it's what could actually change this gubernatorial race today.
00:58:17.140Absolutely. And I think what is interesting is that, you know, if you talk and you and or listen to black voters and Hispanic voters in Virginia, they are as infuriated about this teaching, this critical race teaching or what a theory teacher or whatever.
00:58:37.560Again, it's probably going to get different names to try to sort of dilute that name, but they are as equally frustrated as white parents are.
00:58:50.100These are people that live in their neighborhood.
00:58:52.160These are their kids play with each other's kids.
00:58:54.920Why would you create a tension that doesn't, you know, need to exist?
00:58:58.980And I think the other thing that is interesting, because I travel so much across the country, I have never seen so many signs for new people running for school board in small towns and medium towns and suburban areas all over the Great Lakes Midwest and down through Appalachia and in through Virginia as I have this time.
00:59:21.140But I think we're going to see a lot of turnover in school boards because parents are getting more involved as they start to understand that they have the power to run and be a part of the solution and not be part of the problem.
00:59:36.800Mm hmm. Why would a school district require teachers to listen to Bettina Love, who, again, this is according to Chris Rufo, his earlier reporting on her.
00:59:49.340But the latest reporting is that she's being taught in the in the Fairfax County Public Schools.
00:59:54.000Why would you want somebody to have access to your child's teacher who says as follows?
00:59:57.840Just a couple examples of her. This is Rufo's reporting.
01:00:00.280She once gave a presentation to the San Diego Unified School System, saying racism runs deep in the United States and blacks alone know who America really is.
01:00:09.980She believes children learn better from teachers of the same race.
01:00:13.800She doesn't like whites teaching blacks or I don't know how she feels about the opposite.
01:00:18.560She says public schools do not see blacks as human, that public schools are guilty of systemic anti blackness and the spirit murder of black and brown babies.
01:00:28.840She says whites are directly responsible for the plight of, quote, dark children.
01:01:03.020But the point is that is manifesting in our schools, from our teachers.
01:01:08.880And ultimately, as that woman said, out of the mouths of babes when they come home, not understanding why they're being shamed for a pigmentation over which they have zero control.
01:01:18.780Right. Absolutely. And, you know, you just that list of things you just said is so disheartening is not the right reaction.
01:01:48.500Not every parent has the capabilities of doing homeschooling.
01:01:50.800So that's where you then see parents getting involved in public schools.
01:01:55.820And that's why you see people running for school board or making their voice known at school board meetings and getting involved with the Parent Teachers Association.
01:02:05.500All kinds of great movements in American culture and American history always begin at the ground level, no matter what they have been, from civil rights to to abolition.
01:02:17.480All of those things began at the ground level, began in communities.
01:02:24.240I have I have said for for months, this election cycle beginning today, all across the country, I'm really interested in following a lot of races across the country, not just Virginia, on very local races.
01:02:39.500This is an inside outside moment where it's not just left and right.
01:02:45.360Left and right pretty much means tight, close elections like we saw last year, like we saw the presidential in the House and the Senate.
01:02:53.780Right. Everything's pretty much down the middle.
01:02:56.380This inside outside thing always hurts the party in power.
01:03:01.120We saw it in 2006 when the Republicans lost those midterm elections.
01:03:06.880We saw it again in 2010, again in 2014.
01:03:11.020And I think that that's where we are headed.
01:03:13.400And again in 2018 for the Democrats over the Republicans.
01:03:18.200But I think that we are, again, in another way because people are unsatisfied with who we sent to Washington.
01:03:26.560You know, we send people we sent the America sent Biden and sent the Democrats to Washington, not the huge mandate, not with a big, overwhelming majority.
01:03:37.760They listen to what they ran on, they ran on being, you know, things are going to get calm, we're going to return to normal.
01:03:45.200And Washington, once again, misreads why they were sent and decides that they're just going to spend like a bunch of drunken sailors and, you know, sort of redo our society.
01:03:57.440And that's why people are are upset with with Democrats.
01:04:01.900It's not that they love Republicans again or that they are in love with Republicans.
01:04:14.840The inside is the elites who are elected and are sitting in the side, the beltway outsiders are, in this case, parents nationwide, Democrat and Republican who are saying you don't have a mandate to shove this kind of stuff down the throats of our kids to spend on our kids dime to pull troops out of Afghanistan in the way that you did.
01:04:36.380Like you were not given this blank check to push through the these, you know, crazy agenda items that do not reflect our values, whether we have a D or an R after our names.
01:04:48.760Yes, this is very independent driven and it's taking along people along with it.
01:04:57.720It's it's adding to the coalition to the party that is out of power, which is the Republicans.
01:05:03.260And the best thing they could do is not do anything at all in terms of earning these voters.
01:05:11.140And and I think that, you know, one of the things that we we sort of miss is just how.
01:05:21.480How death Washington has become and their negligence on a lot of issues.
01:05:28.860You know, one of the Afghanistan has had more of an impact than I think anybody really realized.
01:05:37.120But when I when that happened in late August, I saw a dramatic shift among suburban independent voters.
01:05:45.000I saw them move away from the Democrats and they have not moved back because it's not because they didn't want America to leave Afghanistan.
01:05:56.480However, there's a nuance there where, you know, Democratic reporters tend to forget to ask the second, third and fourth question.
01:06:08.000Negligent that believe that it did not live up to American standards and they have moved away and the Democrats have done nothing in a series of successive events to earn them back.
01:06:19.560It's so funny because it's like they the administration told us that it was handled perfectly.
01:07:36.080It's no different than Republican leaning voters voting against Republicans, even if it was against their own interest in 2018 in those midterms and or against their own interest in 2020 when voting for president.
01:07:51.920They aren't as tribal as as we are led to believe.
01:07:56.340They are voters for very independent thinking.
01:07:59.340And all you have to do is look at how much the ballots are are split in a lot of states like Wisconsin and Michigan and Pennsylvania.
01:08:09.460Let's just take Pennsylvania as an example in 2020.
01:09:36.680So they're so angry about Tucker doing this.
01:09:39.980Everything Tucker does gets this kind of reaction.
01:09:42.340We're going to talk about it just a little bit.
01:09:45.360So let's talk about Tucker, my pal Tucker Carlson, who I do love and I love that he upsets people.
01:09:55.940And he takes risks and that's fine by me.
01:09:58.480I mean, I think we need some risk taking.
01:10:00.680It gets celebrated when it hurts a Republican.
01:10:03.160It doesn't get celebrated when it's somebody like Tucker as saying something that might be that might undermine a narrative that has taken hold.
01:11:02.640And they sort of suggest that there were some rebel rousers within this group who meant to stoke violence, confrontation, problems.
01:11:12.480Some may have been FBI, some may have been sort of left-leaning agitators, but they were not necessarily all diehard Trumpkins who believed they were there to storm the Capitol and stop the steal.
01:11:26.460So that leads me to my question to you, which is the – okay, that's his perspective.
01:11:32.220That's actually how most Republicans feel.
01:11:34.500If you look at the polls, that's actually how most Republicans feel.
01:13:17.660So the first to your point about risk taking, you know, Purdue President Mitch Daniels this year, I don't know if you heard it, did this incredible speech to all the students, encouraging them to take risks.
01:13:34.700And so I commend Tucker Carlson for taking that risk and going into a place and looking at something from a different worldview.
01:13:52.460And even more importantly, taking a look at it to me, I haven't seen it yet, but it appears as though this is a 365 look at what happened, warts and all, and sort of some intellectual curiosity as to what really happened.
01:14:11.520And how did it start and where did the grains of this begin?
01:14:16.020Yeah, well, the they're getting criticized.
01:14:19.520He's getting criticized for suggesting, was this a false flag operation?
01:14:23.660And what that means is, is he positing that, in fact, this whole thing was really being pushed by, say, Democrats or the FBI versus Trump supporters and Trump himself?
01:14:35.060And as I understand it, a question is being raised based on what we saw with Governor Whitmer, where remember, there was there was reporting that she was the target of this kidnapping plot and they were going to do terrible things to her.
01:14:50.500And then it turned out something like nine of the 15 guys who were allegedly hatching this plot on her were FBI and were pushing it.
01:14:58.220And it does raise a legitimate question in that case about, is this like an FBI infiltration so that they can report on and keep an eye on a crime?
01:15:07.400Or is this the FBI creating a crime that would not have otherwise taken place in the hopes of catching a couple of losers on the criminality hook?
01:15:18.640And if that's the way the question gets asked and there's evidence that there and there already there is some evidence that there was some law enforcement infiltrating on nine on one six.
01:15:27.440From what I understand, why is it not a fair question to at least ask that false flag exactly?
01:15:32.860But to what extent was law enforcement involved?
01:15:35.380To what extent were Democratic operatives involved?
01:16:13.360And wherever that takes us, that is what happened.
01:16:17.300No matter how, no matter, no matter if it's what we want it to be or not, we should, as journalists, ask the questions and get to the and get to the result.
01:16:30.100By the way, the New York Times is reporting that at least two FBI informants were involved on January 6th.
01:16:36.400So this is not like the actual facts of this are coming out bit by bit in the in the months post dating January 6th and a good reporter follows them.
01:16:45.380And you don't if you don't have ideological blinders on this would be a fascinating story.
01:16:49.460If there really is a significant FBI role or government role or Democrat role in creating what we saw on January 6th, which, I mean, was terrible.
01:16:58.640There's no question, you know, hurting cops and people getting hurt.
01:17:01.320And so the death of Ashley, all of it was awful to watch.
01:17:05.120We should absolutely know who had a hand in it on both sides, whether they were law enforcement, meaning to keep an eye or who overstepped and crossed over into entrapment or Dems looking to create problems in the sort of the way Antifa does at some of these events.
01:18:00.520And that's that's what leads people who aren't as powerful as Tucker with as big a platform to say, I'm not touching that with a 10 foot pole.
01:18:06.520People who might be more open minded to pursuing facts.
01:18:11.320When you see something getting silenced, when you see someone getting silenced, there's this this initial or this intuitive reaction to pull back because you're afraid of the ramifications.
01:18:24.140You're afraid of of the impact that it's going to have on your personal life or your professional life.
01:18:29.660I watched the New York Times reporter just get crushed yesterday because he interviewed someone who was a swing voter.
01:18:37.620And all of a sudden, you know, he's being accused of not being fair.
01:18:42.300And it was the fairest story I saw about this election.
01:18:46.620So there are the consequences that happen in this in this very connected world where people who have no names and no faces can, in fact, destroy your life or at least put a dent in it.
01:19:05.580And then you've got the Netflix situation where, you know, Ted Sarandos gets pummeled by his staff or airing the Dave Chappelle comedy, comedy special.
01:19:14.160Um, and yet all those Netflix employees are fine with Colin Kaepernick coming out there and saying that the NFL draft or, you know, the combine is the same thing as slave trades.
01:19:25.920And that I guess football players who voluntarily put themselves up in the hopes and dreams of making it into the NFL are the same as slaves.
01:19:53.880And I don't ever use that word lightly just to watch that and, and to watch this really just terrible storytelling that, that makes quite the leap as to how someone is treated in the NFL.
01:20:08.640Uh, it's, it's, it does nothing, nothing good for our culture.
01:20:13.640It does nothing good to mend any kind of, kind of divide that exists.
01:20:17.880And it only further goes to divide us as a country and also as a culture.
01:20:23.160And then, which circles right back to the inside outside thing that I talked about.
01:20:28.320And that, and, and, and, and it is our cultural curators that are pushing this.
01:20:32.960Look, Dave Chappelle, I remember the first time that my son put a show on, on television and, and he was a teenager at the time.
01:20:47.400And, and, and I think that you see independent minded and conservative people tend to lean towards, um, appreciating my, you know, they might not agree with everything that he says, appreciate that, that risk-taking, right.
01:21:02.900That putting it out there and, and doing what he does, which is comedy.
01:21:14.620I grew up with George Carlin, which shows how old I am.
01:21:17.500Um, but those men were also the great risk takers.
01:21:21.140Can you, can you imagine, I mean, the fact that Colin Kaepernick is a black man should not excuse him dismissing the slave trade as he did.
01:21:31.480The nerve to compare it to the NFL draft.
01:21:35.620I mean, to me, it is like the most offensive thing I've seen in a long time.
01:21:39.200And that's saying something in modern day America.
01:21:44.520One is Halloween and the next is Christmas.
01:21:47.140Um, I talked with, about Alec Baldwin with our earlier panel, the guys from Ruthless, but Alec Baldwin and his weird wife, Hilaria, the fake Spaniard.
01:21:55.660Um, she, they, in the midst of this whole scandal, Selena, that she decides to post their Halloween photo.
01:22:04.280He killed a woman 10 days ago and I'm sure he's very stressed out.
01:22:10.540She decides to post their weird family Halloween photo.