The Megyn Kelly Show - America Approves of Trump's Diverse Cabinet, and Jack Smith DROPS Charges, with Stu Buguiere and Stephen L. Miller

00:00:00.660 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday at noon east.

00:00:12.000 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and happy Monday. It's Thanksgiving

00:00:16.940 week. Can I tell you, it's kind of weird for me because we already celebrated Thanksgiving.

00:00:21.280 We do it every year. We call it Fakesgiving because it's much easier to get my whole family

00:00:26.680 together on a day other than the day. And so we did it. And so I kind of feel like everybody's

00:00:30.760 just playing catch up at this point. Come on, let's get going. And actually it had the added

00:00:35.260 benefit of adding a bunch more days in between Thanksgiving and Christmas for me, which is

00:00:39.480 kind of convenient shopping wise, et cetera. In any event, I look forward to having the day off

00:00:44.560 and to hearing about how all of you celebrate this Thursday. What's it going to be? Football?

00:00:51.760 Delicious snacks that you don't eat for the rest of the year? I mean, like,

00:00:55.760 I literally think it's the only day of the year I ever eat stuffing or cranberry sauce.

00:01:00.440 What other day do you eat that? Do you guys eat that other than on Thanksgiving? Anyway,

00:01:04.280 let me know. Megan at MegynKelley.com. On this particular Monday before Thanksgiving,

00:01:10.220 President-elect Donald Trump's cabinet is now complete. All that's left is the confirmation

00:01:14.060 process. That ought to be fun. And even the Trump-hating media is admitting that this is

00:01:20.360 the most ideologically diverse cabinet ever. One nominee is even getting praise from Randy

00:01:28.020 Weingarten, which is not, not, not good. It's not good. We'll get into it. And also the Surgeon

00:01:36.160 General is getting big praise from one of the COVID Nazis who is in total lockstep with Anthony Fauci.

00:01:43.320 Also not good. There is a new poll from CBS News showing massive support for President-elect Trump

00:01:51.700 from the American public right now. Womp womp. That's going to upset the media. They're not going

00:01:56.220 to like that. And they will do their level best to turn that around just as quickly as they can.

00:02:00.900 Joining me today for the full show, it's Stu and Steez. Stu Bergeer, he is the host of Stu

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00:03:24.580 Guys, welcome back. Thanks, Megan. Good to see you. I have stuffing four days a week.

00:03:33.320 Seriously. I don't know why you guys don't. Do you ever, like literally on any other day of the

00:03:38.680 year, do you have stuffing? Sure. It's great with chicken. Like you just get the stovetop stuff. I do

00:03:43.860 this one from scratch, but yeah, why not? It's wonderful. You make it at home. Okay. Yeah.

00:03:48.820 Megan, you're describing an American failure here, a cultural failure. We should be eating more

00:03:53.020 stuffing, more cranberry sauce. Yeah. We should be having Thanksgiving like twice a week.

00:03:59.740 The Brits have Sunday night roast dinner. I mean, we can, we can steal that tradition from them.

00:04:04.360 Make America healthy again. Lye green beans. I don't know. And pumpkin pie. That's another thing.

00:04:08.640 It's a one time a year. Am I wrong? I don't eat pie. Pumpkin pie has a season. I think you get the

00:04:15.900 sea. It's Thanksgiving to Christmas. I feel like I have it at Christmas sometimes too, but you're right.

00:04:20.340 No, I'm wrong. No, you're doing it wrong. You're only allowed to have pumpkin pie on Thanksgiving

00:04:27.500 and cranberry sauce. Wait a minute. Steez, you're not having cranberry sauce on any day

00:04:32.560 other than Thanksgiving, are you? Sometimes. Yeah. It's great. Like turkey sandwiches and stuff

00:04:38.340 like that. Yeah. The kind, you know, there's only one kind. It's the kind you get out of the

00:04:42.980 can and you slice it with a knife and those, they fall over. Yeah. I mean, my culture is

00:04:50.160 not your, you know, snack here. Okay. So no, you, you just get some cranberries, you throw

00:04:55.100 some bourbon, some orange juice, some brown sugar into a thing and simmer it. And it's

00:04:59.840 great. It lasts for like two weeks. Don't be the guy who's overstepping us and saying you

00:05:04.260 make your own cranberry sauce. I do. Don't do that. Don't you dare. Just like, just like

00:05:09.460 the pilgrims did. I don't know if you saw that on Twitter. I was, I was researching, I

00:05:14.880 was researching cranberry sauce recently. I was just like looking at some stuff and it

00:05:18.980 came across a website that had a land acknowledgement in the blurb about cranberry sauce. It basically

00:05:25.580 said, you know, the cranberries were here when the colon and the colonizers came and they came

00:05:30.560 from Europeans and to give to the natives whose land we are on to this day. And I'm like, ma'am,

00:05:35.600 I don't need a land acknowledgement for cranberry sauce. Imagine sitting there at the table and

00:05:41.560 someone says, this is, this is great cranberry sauce. How did, where did you buy, did you make

00:05:45.660 this? Well, it's a long story. Please sit down because it goes back to our indigenous tribes.

00:05:51.580 And, and abuse. It's funny because I have tried, my audience has heard these stories, but many times

00:05:56.880 over the years to cook a Thanksgiving dinner, even though I don't cook. And every single time it's

00:06:01.940 been an utter disaster, including a fire when John O'Hurley of Seinfeld fame and his beautiful

00:06:07.920 wife, Lisa, both of whom are dear friends of ours were over. And, um, we almost set our house on fire,

00:06:13.340 which is when John O'Hurley yelled out, I've got Sean George on speed dial, which is a fancy

00:06:18.300 restaurant in New York. Anyway, now that I'm hosting like an extended family, I mean, I don't even try

00:06:24.560 everybody knows no one would come if they found out I was doing the cooking. So I hire a caterer

00:06:30.440 and, uh, well, I've done it different ways. I've, or I've gotten the food, you know, at the grocery

00:06:34.440 store in advance, but then I screwed that up one year. I left half of the groceries at the whole

00:06:38.920 foods. So by the time we got to actual Thanksgiving dinner, I only had half of the stuff. It was a very

00:06:43.900 paltry serving. Okay. But anyway, now this year I hired a caterer second year in a row. And can I tell

00:06:51.080 you what's great about it? If you get the caterer to do your Thanksgiving dinner, like three weeks

00:06:55.660 before Thanksgiving, everyone's available. They're cheap. Relatively speaking, everyone's ready to

00:07:01.720 help because it's not Thanksgiving. It was so much easier. You're going to, you're going to have to

00:07:06.580 start checking the immigration status of some of those caterers now, because they're just gone.

00:07:10.800 According to the libs who think that we're just deporting housekeepers and crop pickers and food

00:07:16.460 washers and everything like that. That's one of my favorite things that they just stumble into.

00:07:20.200 Um, so just make sure, make sure, you know, you, you, you have one that's legal, you know,

00:07:24.660 this year. I mean, I, that's Mr. Trump isn't going to allow those next year. So just so we're all

00:07:31.020 clear. Um, okay. So anyway, that's Thanksgiving. We've got that covered now. Let's, we might as well

00:07:37.340 begin with the unfair attacks on our wonderful profession of journalism. Um, Joe Scarborough this

00:07:44.940 morning is outraged. And I do mean outraged about people attacking the press. Um,

00:07:50.200 as a factual and unimportant. He's, he's had about enough of this guys, Stu, take a listen to him.

00:07:56.920 Um, speaking with Axios is Jim Vander high. Here's what happened. Vander high, um, made some remarks at

00:08:03.700 the national press club. I guess he got an award and then he got up there and, you know, performed

00:08:09.880 a nice act on the press that were there. Like you matter. And then Joe Scarborough, Scarborough did his

00:08:17.700 best imitation of JLo with her same messaging in advance of the election, 2024. You matter,

00:08:24.820 you matter. Here he is. Listen,

00:08:27.220 Elon Musk sits on Twitter every day or X today saying like, we are the media. You are the media.

00:08:36.140 My message to Elon Musk is bull. You're not the media. Like being a reporter's hard,

00:08:42.980 really hard. No, it's not. You have to care. You have to do the hard work. You have to get up every

00:08:50.720 single day and say, I want to get to the closest approximation of the truth without any fear,

00:08:55.140 without any favoritism. You don't do that by popping off on Twitter. You don't do that by

00:09:01.460 having an opinion. You do it by doing the hard work. They're clapping. They're clapping on the

00:09:12.960 set of morning, Joe. It's very hard, very hard. Super gear to sit there as Joe Scarborough does each

00:09:18.720 morning and say best Biden ever, ever two months before we saw him implode on the

00:09:25.080 debate stage. He's sharp as a tack. And they nailed that coverage the entire time. In fact,

00:09:30.980 they told us all the way up to the very end, how sharp he was until the second they decided

00:09:35.180 to turn on their journalism skills and create a new golden era of journalism that lasted

00:09:41.480 approximately two weeks until Kamala Harris had the nomination. Because that's basically what

00:09:46.000 happened. It's funny that for those two weeks, they really did do their jobs like that. Like they

00:09:51.220 actually were really impressed. They were able to, to suss out every single back room rumor about,

00:09:57.600 you know, every single time Donald or Joe Biden had fallen down in the middle of some fundraiser,

00:10:04.160 every politician or celebrity that was there, they knew every little detail. They knew all of a sudden

00:10:10.060 that he hadn't met with it, with his cabinet in over a year, all this stuff they were able to suss out

00:10:15.380 in a couple of weeks, the second they believed it would help them and that he was now hurting them.

00:10:20.600 And of course, then they went right back to praising Kamala and acting like she was wonderful

00:10:24.920 the entire time. It's pathetic. And, you know, it's funny because when he talks about, you know,

00:10:32.040 journalism is not just popping off on Twitter. First of all, they're all there. They're all doing that.

00:10:37.340 I see them. I'm on Twitter and I see all these journalists there popping off all the time

00:10:42.060 with their non-journalistic opinions. This entire election to me more than anything else

00:10:47.460 was an experiment into, to see if the mainstream media still have that power.

00:10:53.180 Could they convince Americans that actually know the last four years were great. Actually,

00:10:58.060 Bidenomics was working. Actually, the border wasn't that big of a deal. Actually,

00:11:01.540 the Afghanistan thing went well, exactly how they planned it to go. Actually, he was as sharp

00:11:06.340 as attack. And what we found out was it doesn't work anymore. Yes, the media still has influence.

00:11:13.420 Yes, it can still do things, but they are no longer capable of taking America by the collar and dragging

00:11:19.340 it to the solution that they desire. That is something they're feeling real, real panic about.

00:11:27.260 I mean, this has been their entire lives to grow up, to be a journalist, to be able to take American

00:11:33.060 opinion and inform it to your every whim and desire. That is dead. And that's what Elon's

00:11:38.520 talking about. And he's right. It's no accident, Stephen, that you have Jen Psaki the night that

00:11:44.740 Kamala lost saying, we've got to take a real look at these social media influencers and that the

00:11:50.080 digital lane and think about regulating them because they played a major role in this election

00:11:54.920 and it's wrong. And now you're having all these articles done about alternative places for news,

00:12:00.520 like podcasts and how dangerous this is. And then you have Vanda High, who co-founded Axios and

00:12:07.160 Scarborough going off about how what MSNBC does matters. And here's a little bit more of Joe

00:12:13.940 Scarborough doing that. Continues to need to be said when all of the garbage is flying around on social

00:12:21.220 media, lying about reporters, lying about the hard work they do. Why this is so important right now,

00:12:27.360 more than ever, is because critics of the press are feeling more empowered than ever to lie more

00:12:35.940 than ever. What you do matters. What the New York Times does matters. What the Wall Street Journal does

00:12:44.940 matters. What Jonathan Lemire does matters. What the Financial Times does matters. What NBC News and

00:12:53.620 MSNBC reporters do matters. So you stir up shit. And you, you, you, the more you can get people angry,

00:13:01.140 the more followers you get. But also now it's monetized to help you lie. The more you hate,

00:13:08.600 the more you make. Yeah, there you go. I like that. Hey, Rev, did you preach for your next weekend?

00:13:13.560 That'll go viral. Okay. Joy Reid was literally saying that if Trump won,

00:13:19.420 they were going to start locking up brown people. So maybe spare me on the lectures of you stir people

00:13:26.060 up and then make money. It's no accident that MSNBC's ratings are in the toilet. They're being

00:13:33.300 spun off because reputationally they're a nightmare for Comcast and NBC. These are the biggest losers at

00:13:40.480 the party with their little pocket squares. And they've been spun off to go sit in the part with

00:13:45.460 the non-alcohol punch. And they're still trying to tell us, Steve, that they're the main people at

00:13:51.260 the party and they matter. There's no prom king without me. Yeah. I mean, Morning Joe is just

00:13:58.820 basically performing the news and that's kind of their whole shtick. It's, you know, they believe

00:14:04.020 they exist in some kind of Aaron Sorkanized universe where they are the most important character

00:14:09.180 of the entire media ecosphere and they're just not anymore. And as someone who partakes in media

00:14:15.900 criticism for a career for my podcast, I've said, you know, these people have the least amount of

00:14:21.000 influence I've ever seen in my life. And that's something that I kind of push out there to a lot

00:14:25.280 of other influencers are on the right like that. It's okay to admit that, yeah, these people upset

00:14:30.960 you and they are professional performers. They are professional liars. But this election,

00:14:35.780 like Stu said, was really a referendum on all of that stuff. What they're doing isn't working.

00:14:40.740 And Jim Vanderheib is interesting. He was one of the guys who walked around post-election,

00:14:45.420 you know, going to places like MSNBC, going to places like Politico and just saying,

00:14:48.900 you know, it's really hard to find good journalists out there. You know, it's a hard industry.

00:14:53.840 And Jim Vanderheib Axios has not hired anybody from, say, the Free Beacon who broke

00:14:58.080 the story of Claudine Gay's plagiarism. They should get a Pulitzer for that story and they won't.

00:15:03.560 So it's not that there aren't good reporters. It's that these guys are locked inside of their

00:15:07.920 own, I hate to say the cliche, their own calcified bubble where we can't go hire a good reporter

00:15:14.220 from, say, the Free Beacon. We can't go hire a good reporter from the Daily Caller who will

00:15:18.060 report on pro-life issues. They froze out half of the country. And now they're complaining that

00:15:24.820 half the country is not listening to them. And as far as Twitter X is concerned,

00:15:29.860 Harry Enten from CNN just had a poll where he showed that Twitter X and X is the platform as

00:15:36.100 it exists now is as ideologically balanced as it ever has been. It's 48% left, 47% right-leaning,

00:15:43.980 and they can't take that. They lost 20% of the conversation and they all packed their bags and

00:15:49.400 then went and colonized another social media platform like they always do. And so that's really

00:15:54.200 what this is about. And so, yeah, Morning Joe sitting there pounding his fist on the table,

00:15:59.080 it just does not resonate like this would have two years ago because Joe Scarborough believed he had

00:16:04.380 the ear of the White House. And he did. And this is what they have to show for it now.

00:16:09.920 Yeah. But he doesn't have the ear of anybody who is in the center or right of center.

00:16:14.700 He's trying to worm his way back into Trump world. Everybody knows what that little play

00:16:22.480 date at Mar-a-Lago was about. They see ratings with Trump. And so I predicted by the time this

00:16:28.100 month is out or by December is out, he's going to have Donald Trump calling his show again and

00:16:32.640 get all the people at CNN, the Brian Seltzers and everyone talking about it and getting on

00:16:36.740 their typewriters. And that's going to be the business model. And that's why you're seeing some

00:16:41.640 of these traditional outlets decide, oh, maybe we should talk to Hitler instead of just calling

00:16:47.740 him Hitler. And so it was all a show. Trump can't save him. Trump, Trump calling in to Morning Joe

00:16:53.600 cannot save Morning Joe. They've already exposed themselves, Stu, as just in the tank for the other

00:17:02.740 side and full of loathing for the other side. And there is no one who is center right who's going to

00:17:09.720 say, oh, I'm going to give them a fresh look because Donald Trump sat down with him. Everyone

00:17:14.360 in America, in the world knows that Trump's oxygen is news coverage. And we'll understand if he goes

00:17:21.040 on that show, it's because he loves to see himself talked about in the news. And if he can get these

00:17:26.380 worms into giving him good coverage by giving them an interview every once in a while, he'll do that.

00:17:31.320 But no one's going to think, oh, I'll reevaluate them now that Trump sat with them for 15.

00:17:37.180 No, no, absolutely. In fact, I think if anything, it's it's the opposite. Like it's people will see

00:17:43.200 through it and their own audience who is incentivized for them to be saying anything negative about

00:17:49.140 Donald Trump will hate them for it. I mean, it's a really strange move, honestly, for them to go talk

00:17:53.880 to Donald Trump, because if anything, it provides their audience a reason to dislike them more, because

00:18:02.300 if they see them as kissing up to Donald Trump, it's probably bad for them. Right. There's no one who's

00:18:06.360 on MSNBC looking for actual coverage of the news. That's not why you go to that place.

00:18:11.260 Maybe some people go to CNN for that. Still, nobody goes to MSNBC for that. And who's going

00:18:17.440 to be incentivized by this? The person who says, you know what? Wow, we really blew this and we

00:18:21.740 missed something serious with the American people. Their social media following isn't going to,

00:18:26.940 you know, to praise them for that. You know, Joy Reid is the type of person who gets rewarded

00:18:32.020 out of a situation like this because she will get more and more extreme. She'll double down.

00:18:36.120 She'll say the reason we lost is because of racism and sexism and, you know, transphobism

00:18:42.300 or whatever other thing they're going to accuse people of. And their followers will praise them

00:18:46.620 for it. And you know what? If they did try to have a real reckoning, their audience would push back

00:18:52.800 on them, I think, enough so that someone else would step into that role and take over the cheerleader

00:18:57.980 for whatever left wing fantasy they want. The nerve, the nerve that they would try to

00:19:03.760 distinguish because you heard their Jim, Jim Vande Hei saying, talking about the importance

00:19:10.640 of a free press and slamming opinionated influencers who are popping off on Twitter. He's so angry

00:19:16.380 about those who just pop off on Twitter. And then Scarborough too, looking at them saying,

00:19:19.960 you know, like we here at MSNBC, we matter. As if we should look at Russia, Russia, Russia,

00:19:26.220 Rachel Maddow, Russia Maddow, and Joy Reid, who all she does is spew racist tropes. That's it.

00:19:34.200 That's all she does is spew racism about Donald Trump, not to mention the rest of their pathetic

00:19:38.600 lineup. We should be looking at them as the credible ones. It's very irritating to them

00:19:44.460 that there are people on X who have a platform and people in the digital lane like us that have a

00:19:51.560 platform that others are listening to because that's not factual, you see. And by the way,

00:19:57.100 many of us are reporters, are journalists, and would put our credentials up against anyone up and

00:20:04.520 down that lineup any day of the week. These same outlets, I'll just speak about the one, Axios,

00:20:12.920 because it's Jim Vande Hei up there, Steve. It was his outlet that was trying to say Kamala Harris was

00:20:18.880 never the border czar. That is a title she never actually had. Quoting here from an article by

00:20:25.620 Steph W. Knight, July 24th, 2024. You go back to April 14th, 2021, Axios. Kamala Harris was appointed

00:20:36.200 by Biden as border czar. Then June 23rd, 2021, Kamala Harris was put in charge by Joe Biden of solving

00:20:45.340 the migrant surge at the southern border. But as soon as she declares for president,

00:20:50.080 she was never the border czar. And then when she got slammed online for this ridiculousness,

00:20:56.860 they added an editor's note. This article has been updated and clarified to note that Axios was among

00:21:02.340 the news outlets that incorrectly labeled Harris a border czar. And these are the people who want to

00:21:08.560 lecture the rest of us. Yeah, that was a pretty good example. And the other one Stu brought up is

00:21:15.920 we were told for months and months, even by Kamala Harris and Nancy Pelosi, how sharp Joe Biden was.

00:21:21.680 They smeared Robert Herr when Herr described him as he did in her report, which seemed to be more

00:21:27.300 generous as more stuff comes out. And even up to the fact where Joe Biden has to be pushed off the

00:21:34.180 stage by Barack Obama, and Obama's own advisors said, well, that's not really what happened.

00:21:38.560 They're just really good friends. I had an eyewitness account on my podcast who saw Biden

00:21:43.800 at Normandy and just said, this guy's gone. His brain is applesauce. An eyewitness person said this.

00:21:49.820 We were all called conspiracy theorists. We were called chief fake artists right up until the moment

00:21:54.100 when they couldn't hide him anymore on the debate stage. And I thought what was interesting,

00:21:58.220 Semaphore Media run by Ben Smith, formerly BuzzFeed, they went and they talked to the pod Save America

00:22:03.200 Bros about what happened with Joe Biden. And I thought, how come you guys aren't reaching out

00:22:08.140 to the people who have been saying this for the last three years? Where is the apology from the

00:22:13.660 Semaphores, from the Axios, from the MSNBCs? Like you said, Joe Scarborough saying this is the best

00:22:19.980 Biden we've ever seen. And then two weeks later, like it never happened. He's like, he needs to get

00:22:24.840 out and they move on. And then they expect the rest of us to just not notice. And that was kind of

00:22:29.940 how incensed I got with that whole thing. It's like, there's some of us that Axios and the media

00:22:35.180 might disagree with because we're on the political right, but we were right about Biden's condition,

00:22:39.860 whatever it might be. It could be an affliction. It could just be old age, whatever it is. We were

00:22:45.300 right about this and they can't, they will not reach out to anyone who was on the political right

00:22:49.320 and say, Hey, you know, what do you think now that he's out and stuff like that? They still go and

00:22:54.580 talk to the pod bros who lied to their audience for a living on behalf of Joe Biden, the democratic

00:22:59.920 party. And that has a lot to do with this. And like I said, you can have Vanderheed walking around

00:23:04.580 going, where are all the good reporters? And it's simply because they have an ideological stance

00:23:09.260 that they will not break under any circumstances, including this last election, uh, which was as much

00:23:14.980 a referendum on their behavior and their industry than it was on anything else in this country.

00:23:19.380 God, you're so right. I'm just thinking about the examples. We were right about Kamala Harris

00:23:24.600 being unable to resonate at all with anybody in this country other than the far left. Everybody

00:23:30.540 predicted this. I mean, we were on the air every day talking about how inept she was and how she

00:23:34.560 was too stupid to become the first female president. We, and I know you guys too, raising questions all

00:23:40.020 along about whether Tim Walz was the answer to her Midwestern man problem. I miss him. As, as people who

00:23:46.280 actually do understand the center right and men, I miss him too, but like they should have listened.

00:23:51.440 They should have said, you know, people who actually surround themselves with guys like that

00:23:55.020 are telling us this ain't going to do it. Well, maybe we should listen. When we said the trans issue

00:24:00.520 is getting very, very big and you ignore it at your own peril. Go, go ahead and tune it. Go ahead

00:24:06.700 and ask Ben Smith. He doesn't have your answers with all due respect. He doesn't have your answers.

00:24:13.720 It's a very good point. Stu, your thoughts on it.

00:24:16.280 Yeah. And it's, it's totally true. And I think like if, if you are relegated to pounding on the

00:24:22.560 desk and saying what we do matters, it doesn't, I promise you it doesn't. I mean, I think back to

00:24:29.180 the high school years and asking girls to prom and then just pounding my finger, my fist on the desk

00:24:35.600 over and over again and saying, I am good looking and I am attractive and I am interesting and I do

00:24:40.940 have abs. It doesn't work. People know it's not true. It doesn't work like that. People know if

00:24:47.760 you're interesting. They know if what you're doing matters and what the American people said in November

00:24:53.420 to this whole question was, no, we don't believe you anymore. We've seen you lie to us way too many

00:24:59.460 times. All the things you just mentioned and so many more, Megan, people looked at with their own eyes,

00:25:04.860 evaluated themselves as actually intelligent individuals and said, these people are lying to us.

00:25:11.760 I don't trust them anymore. I'm looking to other sources. They found the truth in other places.

00:25:16.620 And that's the, that is the punishment for all of this bad behavior over multiple decades that has

00:25:22.500 only been getting worse and worse and worse and worse. I don't think there's a way back for them.

00:25:26.100 Now on this front, uh, there's news today, courtesy of Marjorie Taylor green, who I guess has been

00:25:32.520 appointed to head the congressional subcommittee that's supposed to help doge Elons and Vivek's,

00:25:39.320 you know, government department of government efficiency. They're supposed to work from the

00:25:44.300 congressional angle on helping suggest cuts for doge. Uh, and she mentioned in an interview with

00:25:50.560 Maria Bartiromo, NPR, NPR gets almost a hundred million dollars of taxpayer money a year, 91 million.

00:26:00.740 That's crazy. Um, Saurabh, uh, Armani, Armani was out on, um, X yesterday calling attention to a

00:26:10.120 segment he had just listened to where they were saying women are not the only ones who get periods

00:26:14.420 women. I don't wish to fund that. I don't wish to fund that message. It is not objective.

00:26:20.120 And it is not truthful. And our team put together some examples of our own on NPR is reporting that

00:26:27.740 all of us are paying for watch. He also doubled down on those comments he made recently calling

00:26:34.500 Democrats, the enemy from within and suggested using the military against them. Latinos want to

00:26:40.460 be white. They want to be with the cool kids. President Biden's classified document troubles are

00:26:46.740 piling up. His lawyers announced they had found more files at his home in Wilmington, Delaware,

00:26:52.060 and congressional Republicans pounced. Turns out it's not unusual for outgoing government officials

00:26:57.300 to find classified documents laying around. I've known several people who have retired and after

00:27:04.020 they retire, they're going through their box and it's like, whoa, how did that get in here?

00:27:08.260 Republican Glenn Youngkin is a former private equity CEO who picked up Republican criticism of

00:27:13.860 schools, often criticizing them for things the schools don't teach.

00:27:17.000 And it's worth noting here that critical race theory isn't actually in Virginia's K through 12

00:27:21.340 curriculum. Okay. So he's going to ban a thing that isn't happening. Is Terry McAuliffe,

00:27:26.260 the Democrat, even bothering to respond to that? Or do people in Virginia get it? Like this is not real.

00:27:33.100 Your taxpayer dollars. Hard at work still.

00:27:36.020 Incredible. And, you know, as somebody who's done radio for a long time, you know, it's one of those

00:27:42.680 things that people like doing radio. They actually like doing it. People like doing podcasts. People

00:27:46.860 like doing shows on Sirius XM. It's something that people try to get into. We don't need to fund any

00:27:53.000 radio station. People will go out and find their own information that they want. And the NPR is like,

00:28:00.640 imagine, I can't even imagine going through that. It's coming up through commercial radio where you have to

00:28:04.860 actually work hard to get people to listen to you. That's not what NPR is. They know that funding's

00:28:10.120 there. They know that that is there. And if they walk that left wing line, the funding will continue

00:28:14.660 and continue and continue. This is the exact thing. This is the thing I'm probably most optimistic about

00:28:18.840 when it comes to an incoming Trump administration looking for stuff like this. There's no reason we

00:28:24.160 should be spending a hundred million dollars propping up a crappy radio station. That's just going to

00:28:29.220 spout left wing lies, even if it was spouting conservative lies or conservative truths. It's

00:28:34.840 still would make no sense for the federal government to be involved in it. Get rid of

00:28:39.120 this stuff. There's so much of this that we can get rid of. And if you read, you know, read, I read

00:28:44.840 Elon Musk that out of the biography from last year, this is what he does. I mean, the reason why we

00:28:51.320 know who Elon Musk is is because he's taken this approach to every company he's ever worked at

00:28:55.680 to great success. And, you know, him, the vague working together with Trump being there with real

00:29:02.420 enforce behind it. There's reasons for actual optimism for the first time, probably since

00:29:08.140 Ronald Reagan, uh, when it comes to this type of stuff. And it's going to be difficult as Reagan

00:29:12.400 found out, but I think there's real hope here. I want to see Edward Scissorhands. That's who I want

00:29:17.340 to see go in and take care of NPR and, and the likes, Steven, let me give you a couple more

00:29:21.740 examples of NPR. I know you don't really need them, but it's kind of fun to go down memory lane

00:29:26.080 when we have discussions like this. Now that it actually could be on the chopping block,

00:29:29.740 they're 91 million. It's fun to see exactly why it should happen. Okay. Um, headline in 2022,

00:29:36.320 when Trump announced for president breaking Donald Trump, who tried to overthrow the results of the

00:29:42.000 2020 presidential election and inspired a deadly riot at the Capitol in a desperate attempt to keep

00:29:46.320 himself in power has filed to run for president again in 2024. Here's a 2022 tweet on emojis.

00:29:53.420 Some white people may choose, and then they've got like the white thumbs up sign emoji, but it's a

00:29:59.240 little bit more yellow because it feels neutral. But some academics argue opting out of the white

00:30:06.100 thumbs up, uh, emoji signals a lack of awareness about white privilege akin to society associating

00:30:13.860 whiteness with being raceless. I don't understand any of that, but they're trying to shame us again.

00:30:18.880 Um, nobody understands. She was of course murdered by a, an, an illegal from Venezuela. His name is

00:30:26.260 Jose Abarra and he was given life in prison without the possibility of parole last week. The NPR headline,

00:30:31.480 a man has been convicted of murder and the killing of Lake and Riley. Just a man. He's not, not an

00:30:37.900 illegal, not from Venezuelan, not part of a Venezuela street gang, by the way, similar sins committed

00:30:43.540 by WAPO Associated Press, Reuters, NBC, CBS. Just a man, a man was convicted. Then NPR most recently

00:30:51.780 slandered Rich Lowry, our friend who was on this podcast late at night. I think it was after, what

00:30:59.520 was it after? One of the breaking news events. It was one of, one of the, uh, debates probably. Um,

00:31:05.340 I was an assassination attempt. Who can keep track? It was a session, it's a assassination.

00:31:09.820 Which one? I know. Right. And he, um, he merged his words. He was trying to say immigrants and

00:31:18.520 migrants. And he made a sound that sounded like the N word. And anybody who's paid any attention

00:31:23.460 to Rich Lowry in any of his 30 years in the public eye knows that it would literally be an impossibility

00:31:29.100 for Rich Lowry to even think such a word, nevermind to utter it aloud on the airwaves.

00:31:34.180 But NPR dispatched C, just the letter C, Mandler, no actual first name, to say that his pronunciation

00:31:44.560 sounded like the N word to some, and then used media matters as C's source. Having a hard time coming

00:31:54.700 to any conclusion besides the obvious one about what Lowry catches himself blurting out here,

00:31:59.680 C is like some trans justice advocate as it turns out and smeared Rich Lowry, which was then later

00:32:07.240 admitted by NPR after it was publicly shamed by Rich Lowry himself among others. And then there's

00:32:13.640 the Uri Berliner piece in the free press where he detailed how far they'd gone to the left and how

00:32:19.300 there was really no saving it. And he ultimately got let go, right? Didn't he get fired from NPR after

00:32:24.360 that whole thing? I think, I think, I think he, I think he resigned. I think he resigned, um, shortly

00:32:29.040 after. Separated from the company, I remember. Yeah. It's not just uncoupling. Yes. So, I mean, that you

00:32:35.680 tell me whether we should be giving this company a hundred million dollars a year. I realize it's

00:32:39.240 teaspoons in the ocean because we've got 30 trillion plus in debt, but like this seems like a good

00:32:45.900 teaspoon. Yeah. You have to start somewhere with this stuff. I wrote in 2020 that NPR should finally

00:32:51.800 be defunded when they wrote a piece, uh, Hannah Allum, uh, who's a reporter out of New York for

00:32:56.580 them, uh, wrote a piece saying right-wing extremists are turning their vehicles into weapons. And she

00:33:01.900 cited Charlottesville. She started, she, uh, cited an example of a car hitting someone and driving off

00:33:08.840 in a protest. And that wasn't what happened. It was a black female driver who got stuck because of

00:33:14.220 the protesters surrounding her car and she drove off and she, and the NPR tried to make this sound like

00:33:20.500 it was linked to Charlottesville, uh, when that guy hit his gas pedal, ended up killing one

00:33:25.620 protester. And they use that one example to try and go improve this narrative that there are right

00:33:31.180 wing yahoos all over the country speeding into protesters. And it wasn't the case. They flat out

00:33:36.640 lied. They never corrected it. And again, we called it out. You're, you're also overlooking when the

00:33:42.280 Hunter Biden laptop story came out. And, uh, of course that we know what happened with the New York

00:33:47.480 Post. New York Post, uh, was frozen off of Twitter for that because of activists in Twitter and

00:33:52.940 Facebook. Andy Slavitt from Facebook said, we're going to propose this story until we can confirm

00:33:58.020 it. He was a comms director for Barbara Boxer in California. And this happens. And then NPR releases

00:34:04.980 a statement saying, some of you are wondering why we're not covering the Hunter Biden laptop story

00:34:09.080 because we don't, we don't, we don't cover stories that are not interesting to our audience.

00:34:13.560 Yes. And so this really is, I'm fine. If NPR wants to exist, let Alex Soros fund NPR or,

00:34:20.780 you know, Pierre Odomayor, let him fund NPR. Um, it'll be a good day when the schools have all

00:34:26.220 the money that they need and NPR has to hold a bake sale. Yes. I forgot. How can I forget about

00:34:32.040 that one? Um, here's what happened with Erie Berliner. He was given a five day suspension

00:34:36.460 without pay for failing to secure approval for his outside work, his piece on them. And then he

00:34:42.760 resigned on April 17 saying, I cannot work in a newsroom where I am disparaged and began working

00:34:47.780 at the free press in June, which is where he belongs. But he was at NPR since 1999. It's a

00:34:53.200 disgusting, it's a disgusting journalistic outlet. I mean, it's just propaganda and that's fine. If

00:34:58.840 you want to label yourself that and just come out openly as you know, left wing, like those pod guys,

00:35:03.480 great, do it. You know, there's, there's a market for you. The left is begging for that kind of crap

00:35:07.380 right now. They're pretending that they don't have any outlets that they're all right wing podcasts

00:35:11.380 that control the world. Um, it, no, the left has some of the biggest and we're all funded by

00:35:17.740 billionaires. Yeah. And, but like, they just pretend that they're neutral. So that's, that's

00:35:23.440 why they can sit over there being like, geez, if only we could break into the podcasting world,

00:35:27.380 like, hello, yours are the top two in virtually all polls or ratings, you know, listings of how

00:35:34.740 podcasts are doing. You just won't admit that they're left wing. Okay. That's the media updates.

00:35:39.060 When we come back, we're going to talk about the pickle the media's in because of the Trump picks,

00:35:43.760 because the latest poll shows that they have some 60% of support from the American people right now.

00:35:51.360 The people are loving this Trump cabinet. It's very diverse as we discussed ideologically,

00:35:56.920 but also in the ways the left cares about. And, uh, so far people are like, cool. So what does the

00:36:02.620 media do with that? The desperate media that wants to be relevant, that wants to be told this by JLo.

00:36:08.000 You matter. Your voice and your vote matters.

00:36:13.500 No, actually, no. What are they going to do? Are they going to just dump, dump, dump on all

00:36:18.680 of the Trump picks, or are they going to try to play it straight? We'll ask Stu and Steez right after

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00:37:19.140 Before we get to the Trump cabinet, there's news just breaking on Politico as we came to air.

00:37:28.640 Kamala Harris is telling her advisors and allies to keep her political options open, saying she's in

00:37:36.820 the best position to run against Trump four years from now, with some 40 percent of the Democrat party

00:37:43.520 behind her, which is the highest by far. Nobody else even has double digits. And she could be eyeing

00:37:49.980 a run for California governor and has said repeatedly in phone calls, quote, I am staying in the fight.

00:37:58.640 You go, girl. You got this. Yeah, that's excellent news. Don't let them tell you you can't do it, right?

00:38:04.660 I mean, that's like, Christmas came early. How do you like that, Steve?

00:38:09.180 Yeah, I think part of this comes from the fact that when Hillary Clinton lost in 2016,

00:38:15.240 she was rewarded with book deals. And, you know, it wasn't kind of, hey, how come you just lost to

00:38:21.160 this orange, goofy clown guy? It was, you know, it was stolen. It was Russia. And Hillary Clinton

00:38:25.940 remains in the good graces. And I think that that's what they're going to at least attempt to do with

00:38:31.080 Kamala Harris. The problem is Harris has no apparatus in the Democratic Party. She has no real

00:38:36.020 base of support. I think this is mostly a fundraising scheme because her campaign is

00:38:40.520 still $20 million in debt. So keep me out there. Keep me on the speaking circuit. Keep me going.

00:38:46.240 She has a debt to pay off. I thought it was one of the funniest things when Trump offered to pay off

00:38:50.660 that debt. I think that would be absolutely hilarious. Take, you know, take the $20 million

00:38:54.660 from NPR and give it to Kamala Harris, pay off the debt, and off we go. But that's mainly what this is.

00:38:59.360 This is a finance ploy. This is a ploy to keep fundraising and keep, you know, keep the coffers

00:39:05.820 open. I don't see, I mean, maybe California governor because that's, you know, California is

00:39:11.560 their own crazy island as it is anyway. But good luck. Have fun running in 2028.

00:39:17.960 I think she can do it. I think Steve is being too hard on her stupid gear. I think she can do this.

00:39:24.120 She just, we're going to get over our racism. John Oliver told Donald Trump to do it. Jump in

00:39:31.720 the race and do it. So just be careful what you wish for here. Stephen L. Miller, I have zero

00:39:36.260 concerns. I'm fine. Put it on the record. Do you have any idea the number of things I've said about

00:39:40.900 Kamala Harris, all of which proved true? So Stu, do you think there's any actual possibility here?

00:39:47.580 Because they said this snap poll of the 28 field, which by the way, would not be against Trump. It

00:39:52.720 would probably be against Vance or whoever the Republicans decide to run because Trump's term

00:39:56.660 limited. Finds Harris at 41%, 41, and all the rest. Newsom, Shapiro, Walls. He's back in the mix

00:40:04.980 too. It's like an independent, like without her, he could run. Buttigieg, AOC, Gretchen Whitmer,

00:40:11.740 J.B. Pritzker. He's too busy transing kids. I don't know how he's going to find the time.

00:40:16.400 Andy Beshear and others all in the single digits. She's it still. Come on. She's got all the

00:40:22.300 momentum behind her. I love it. Do it. Kamala, run. Kamala, run. Uh, I, this is a great example

00:40:29.420 of bipartisanship in action. Democratic voters apparently want more Kamala. And so do we,

00:40:35.600 uh, please. I, I beg of you, uh, may Kamala Harris, the nominee. Uh, she is, look, she,

00:40:42.660 this wasn't, um, she had, this wasn't the easiest thing in the world. She was dealing with a really

00:40:46.780 terrible, uh, administration record, which by the way, she was a big part of and was in the room

00:40:51.740 for every important, uh, conversation and could not think of anything. She wanted to go differently.

00:40:56.060 Uh, so that was, uh, made a little bit of sense that she would get punished for that as well.

00:40:59.800 But I mean, honestly, like, can I see you're going to California and winning? Probably,

00:41:05.420 probably she can become governor of California. Who cares? Truly though, who gives two shits if she

00:41:11.040 becomes governor of California? I don't care what happens to them. I love my friends in California,

00:41:14.480 but you're already electing a bunch of nutcases. How much worse could it possibly get it? She's

00:41:19.680 their problem. You choose to live in the people's Republic of California. I get it. The weather's

00:41:23.680 nice, but that's up to you. If she's my problem, it's a much bigger deal. She's the country's problem.

00:41:29.220 It's a much bigger deal. That's never going to happen. Clip it, run it and rerun it. Uh,

00:41:36.600 been there, done. That was an utter and complete failure. Okay. The Trump cabinet though,

00:41:41.860 not a failure, very well received so far, uh, CBS poll, 59% of those polled approve of his choices

00:41:52.820 so far, 59% this time in 17, when he was assembling his first cabinet, or at least as January 17,

00:42:01.380 only 37% approve, which is so interesting, Stu, because that cabinet was much less loyal to Trump,

00:42:11.100 much less MAGA ish than this cabinet. So what do you make of the way Trump has approached this and

00:42:18.500 how well it's being received, especially by the way, if you look inside the numbers by young people.

00:42:24.740 Yeah, it's really fascinating. I wouldn't have predicted that big of a split between the two.

00:42:29.680 I mean, I guess Trump coming in the first time was seen, it was a real shock, I think to the nation

00:42:34.000 that he won here, it's a little bit different, right? In 2024, people are looking back at his

00:42:39.960 term as president is positive and they see it. They remember it. Well, they remember the economy

00:42:45.600 doing well. And I think they see a candidate that won an election fair and square and should have the

00:42:51.520 rights to get to the type of people that he wants in these positions. You know, he, he was elected and

00:42:57.380 you know, he of course has to go through the Senate. There's a process that goes on there that we

00:43:01.960 should respect, but when it comes down to it, it should be people that can execute the vision

00:43:07.040 of Donald Trump, right? But that's what these people are doing within the bounds of the constitution

00:43:12.860 and the law. And it's interesting to see that. I, I wonder, I mean, look, do I really think the

00:43:18.960 American people have that well-developed of an opinion of Pam Bondi? I mean, probably not,

00:43:23.560 right? Like, I mean, I don't think that that's what's happening there. I think they're looking at

00:43:27.280 Donald Trump and saying, you know, we, we trust this guy's judgment. I know everyone says it's crazy.

00:43:31.500 We heard all that. We heard the pitch from Joe Scarborough for all of these years that he was

00:43:36.460 a Nazi, that he was going to put in all sorts of people that were going to be fascists. We've

00:43:41.420 looked at that whole thing. We don't buy it. We didn't buy it. That's why he's going back in

00:43:45.420 office and he was elected. And we're going to trust his judgment here. I mean, I think it's more of a

00:43:49.200 generally positive view toward Trump with the exception of some of the names that are a little bit

00:43:54.840 different. You know, I think these people are seeing the fact that he's willing to maybe reach out

00:43:59.140 across the aisle as a positive. I think that's helping him as well. So, I mean,

00:44:03.860 he's in a good position and so far, I think he's executed this one. Well, under this is CBS news

00:44:10.040 poll again, under 30, he has, this is among those who approve, which is, as I said, almost 60% of

00:44:16.280 those polled. Among those under 30 year olds have a 65 percentage point approval rating of the choices

00:44:24.500 Trump has made so far. 30 to 44 year olds, 62% goes down a little with 45 to 64 year olds, but not

00:44:33.100 much. It's down to 57, still very high, 65 and up 52%. So that the greatest support is with the under

00:44:40.580 30 crowd, Steve. And I think in part, this is just my guess, but my, my guess in part is I think they

00:44:48.420 like the RFKJ, Marty McCary, Maha strain of this. I think they like Elon and Vivek. I think they like

00:44:59.260 people who are going to go in there and bust it up. And I actually think they probably like

00:45:02.800 Tulsi and JD, um, and people who are pushing back on some of the forever wars, which are not

00:45:10.340 popular with the young people. Yeah, that's, that's sort of how I view this kind of in that

00:45:17.220 generation as well, not under 30, obviously, but in the Gen X generation, as I sit here and I kind of

00:45:22.300 see how Trump has kind of been mainstreamed now. I mean, you have athletes doing his, his goofy dance

00:45:29.080 on, on pitches and on fields. And so there's part of that, that they're, they don't feel like they're

00:45:33.980 in the minority anymore. It's kind of like they can exhale and just, you know, uh, say and believe

00:45:38.880 what they want. And I I'm kind of in this reserving judgment for Trump's cabinet because

00:45:43.560 the last, I think what Trump's election was this time around was just stopping the insanity of Joe

00:45:49.280 Biden's administration. I don't think a lot of it is a hundred percent. We're voting for Trump

00:45:54.000 because we like Trump. Biden came in, uh, right after kind of COVID had kind of passed. He was

00:45:59.500 brought in to be the kind old man who isn't going to yell on social media at three in the morning.

00:46:04.340 He was going to calm the waters and he was just going to steer the ship and get everything back to

00:46:08.160 normal. And there was nothing about the Biden administration that was normal, whether it's

00:46:12.840 gender ideology, uh, infecting the, the, the department of defense. So the state department

00:46:17.520 or Iranian spy rings in the state department, um, the, the race equity platform, the DEI platform

00:46:23.420 that they pushed. And I really think everyone just said we're, we're through with this much

00:46:28.240 like journalism. Expertise was a suicide. And so I think Trump's just bringing in these people.

00:46:33.540 And I think it's, let's just see, it may work. It may not. Uh, I have reservations about several of

00:46:38.780 the cabinet officials, but Trump's election this time around is what happens when everything breaks.

00:46:44.540 And I mean, every institution is, uh, captured by progressive media, uh, academia, Hollywood,

00:46:50.920 it's all one sided view and people are tired of it. And they're not only just tired of that,

00:46:55.700 they're tired of every time they speak out and objection to it, they might lose their job.

00:47:00.060 They might lose friends right now. They're telling people to ignore your family if they voted a

00:47:05.260 certain way. And so that's how I kind of view the cabinet again, some of it may work. Some of it may

00:47:10.820 not. Um, but I'm sitting here going like, I don't really care if Pete Hegseth doesn't have any

00:47:16.160 administrative experience at Raytheon. I don't care. Um, you know, I, I liked that Tulsi Gabbard was

00:47:22.660 targeted, uh, by the, you know, the national intelligence and she's now in charge of it. Uh, Jay Bhattacharya,

00:47:29.220 who was targeted by Francis Collins and Anthony Fauci to be kicked off social media is now going

00:47:34.120 to be leading the NIH. That's what this election was about. It's you guys have gotten this, you've

00:47:39.620 right. You guys have gotten this extraordinarily wrong for the past four years. So now we're going

00:47:44.880 to bring in the people who you not only disagreed with, you went after and targeted them either

00:47:50.380 through censorship, through, uh, the department of justice, uh, department of defense or whatever.

00:47:55.500 How many fun, fine degrees did the people have who put together that brilliant Afghanistan

00:48:00.060 withdrawal plan? That's really what this is about. So I don't really have strong, strong opinions on

00:48:06.020 Trump's cabinet picks. Let's see how they do. Yeah. I love that summary. Meanwhile, and we're

00:48:12.380 going to get into the specifics. We have to take a break a couple minutes, but, um, I love this Peter

00:48:16.820 Baker of the New York times reaction. I know you guys reacted to this, or at least I saw you did

00:48:20.940 Steve. He tweets out on Friday night because Trump made a bunch of announcements, filling out the

00:48:26.000 remaining holes in the cabinet, uh, a new HUD secretary, labor secretary, FDA chief, CDC director,

00:48:32.500 surgeon general, labor secretary, OMB director, deputy national security advisor, counterterrorism

00:48:37.640 chief and treasury secretary all on a Friday night. It's going to be an exhausting four years,

00:48:43.500 no sleep or rest. And, uh, one response was from Sean Agnew who writes,

00:48:49.040 I'm so sorry. This is happening to you, Peter. Yeah. Why I, I responded to him and I asked why

00:48:54.980 weren't the last four years exhausting for you while he's accepting awards from the white house

00:48:59.300 correspondence association and Joe Biden. This is the kind of shit that we, we see and we talk about,

00:49:04.380 which is you took four years off. Why weren't the last four years exhausting for you? Do you know

00:49:08.960 what you're even saying right now? Now I'm going to have to work, but it's so amazing.

00:49:13.780 I know he's going to play his little violin out there too. Like, Oh, I'm so tired. No sleep and

00:49:19.520 no rest. I'm trying to vet all these terrible people as opposed to maybe like finding out how

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00:51:59.820 apply. We're going to talk about Pete Hegseth. I asked the audience last week after we did two deep

00:52:08.460 dives on the allegations against him, including going through the police report in great detail.

00:52:14.080 This is my copy of it, um, for their thoughts. And I, we got hundreds of emails. I love the ones that

00:52:22.640 are like, I know you never read these, even though I tell them I do read them. Yes, I do. Meg Storm

00:52:26.640 gets them together and she set collates them and sends them to me. And I do read them. And I will tell

00:52:30.800 you that the sum and substance of the opinions, if I had to characterize the overall response is that

00:52:37.900 the audience is not impressed with Pete's moral character at all. Um, and a lot of people were a

00:52:44.520 lot harsher on the judgment of his marital infidelities than I was. And the many male and

00:52:52.860 female listeners thought it was a deal breaker for the particular position he's applying for as a

00:52:59.160 department of defense chief saying that's a position where you cannot be compromised. You got to be able

00:53:04.120 to keep it in your pants. You can't be tempted. You got to have self-control. And this history of

00:53:09.160 his with cheating on three wives does not suggest he's got it. And these are Pete fans like that

00:53:13.600 wrote in. So just for what it's worth, this is my audience, which is not a far left audience saying

00:53:18.460 we don't like it. And we do think it matters. Not everybody, but a large number, more than half

00:53:23.900 felt that way, but literally nobody believes the rape allegations. I mean, not, not one audience

00:53:31.100 member believes is bullshit. What I call bullshit coming out of this woman who he met at this

00:53:37.020 conference in Monterey, California in 17. And he says had consensual sex with, and she says

00:53:41.520 turned into a rape before I get to all that. Um, one of the things that we're seeing in the coverage

00:53:47.640 here is USA today did this whole back and forth on the intoxication level and how alcohol clouded

00:53:55.420 Pete's, uh, clouded the allegations. And they're writing about how, um, Tim, uh, Pete's lawyer,

00:54:01.780 Tim Parlatori is telling media outlets that Hegseth was visibly intoxicated, but they have a former Utah

00:54:08.000 sex crime and claims crimes investigator on record saying, well, that's not true because he described

00:54:15.920 himself as sober, carefully talking through a consensual encounter. Every step of the way he was

00:54:23.080 saying everything to make himself look at the best possible light with the police. So USA today

00:54:27.260 thinks they've got police in a, in a gotcha moment because they say Pete told cops he was sober,

00:54:33.680 whereas his lawyer is saying now he was visibly intoxicated. Here is what Pete said to the cops

00:54:40.180 in the actual police report, which I will read from right now. Um, there was a party in the after an

00:54:45.900 after party in the hotel suites. There was a birthday celebration. Alcohol was provided at the

00:54:50.000 after party. Hegseth stated he did not drink hard alcohol, but consumed beer at the after party.

00:54:56.660 Um, blah, blah, blah. No one at the bar was blacked out drunk. Hegseth stated he remembered being

00:55:03.920 led from the bar by someone stated he was buzzed, but not intoxicated buzzed, but not intoxicated,

00:55:11.320 which does not suggest sober. It's something in between really drunk and totally sober. Um,

00:55:19.780 he did not know who was leading him from the bar. He did not remember being chastised for being too

00:55:23.800 loud. He did not remember an argument by the pool. He did not remember being belligerent with anyone.

00:55:29.780 Um, all of which had been told to the cops by others. So in any event, that's the big Delta

00:55:34.300 that USA today thinks it's caught Pete in that he said he was buzzed, but not intoxicated. Now the

00:55:40.440 lawyer says visibly intoxicated because that's what everybody else who looked at him said he was

00:55:44.380 whatever USA today. And before we get into this, speaking of being visibly intoxicated,

00:55:50.300 I know what I'm talking about because here on this show on Friday, they served up martinis. And

00:55:56.000 by they, I mean, my team, when the ladies from red scare came over and I'm not going to ask where

00:56:00.580 our drinks are. I was going to ask where our drinks are in the red studio. You got to be here. But

00:56:05.600 I'm not used to drinking martinis. I'm certainly not used to drinking them in the middle of the day.

00:56:09.980 And, um, it was to the point, like I had, I had one and I did drink it over the course of an hour.

00:56:17.560 And apparently I don't hold my liquor as well as they used to, because after the show ended,

00:56:21.980 I could barely spit out the ads, which is when we tape the ads when we're done. And I guess my team

00:56:27.100 was rolling on it. I may, I can't, anyway, they thought it was so worthwhile that they made a cut

00:56:33.540 of it. And I am now going to show you what it's like to be visibly intoxicated.

00:56:38.040 I've never done the ads after a martini. Maybe I have, and I just don't remember,

00:56:43.440 but I'll do my best. Every day, the rhetoric gets more and more divisive. There's panic

00:56:48.460 with some people willing to say or do anything if they think it will help their side win.

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00:57:25.360 In my defense, Stu, durable weave, every time I say it, it makes me laugh. It's like,

00:57:31.000 what is that? I think that seems like what I see on late night, you know, hosts' heads.

00:57:35.240 It's a durable weave.

00:57:38.340 I love that, the durable weave. I love that because, like, every syllable was an adventure.

00:57:44.760 Like, it was, each one was a roller coaster. You'd get halfway through and it would slow down

00:57:49.960 and go into slow motion and then speed up again. And that's after one martini? That's,

00:57:56.200 that was incredible. I think I want a whole show of Megan like that. I want,

00:58:01.780 I feel like we have, we plan a day out where we have, we all, we all come together again

00:58:07.300 and Megan's just doing shots throughout the show and we see what it's like at the end because

00:58:12.320 that would be incredible.

00:58:14.500 It's not going to end well, but I am a, I am a happy drunk. I will say that I,

00:58:18.220 I don't usually transfer over into angry or bitter or depressed. It's, you know, it's fun.

00:58:24.620 There's so much to laugh about. And the ad copy with respect to our advertisers,

00:58:28.020 apparently is hilarious when you've had a drink or two. Um, and the ladies from Red Scare had a

00:58:33.360 good time with it too. But back to Pete and the news of the day, let me give you a little bit more

00:58:38.500 from the absolutely dishonest media coverage around Pete Hegseth. USA Today goes through,

00:58:46.300 okay, it's, it's account of what allegedly happened around 4 a.m. Sunday, the alleged victim

00:58:52.500 returned to her hotel room and attended activities for the women's group, uh, that morning. There is

00:58:58.040 nothing in here nor in virtually any report about the fact that the alleged victim, when she returned

00:59:04.260 home to her house or to her hotel room at 4 a.m. was sober, looked sober. According to her husband,

00:59:11.600 the husband went on record with the cops saying she wasn't slurring. She was standing fine.

00:59:16.160 Nothing in the USA Today report on that. And NBC news, we went through some of this on Friday,

00:59:23.460 you know, the vaunted organization that Joe Scarborough said, we report facts. We matter.

00:59:29.000 What we do is important. What did they do? Did they report that, um, Jane Doe, the accuser was seen

00:59:35.620 by an eyewitness flirting with Pete Hegseth at the bar, including touching his leg or arm prior to the

00:59:40.440 alleged rape. No, they did not report that. Did they report that cops say videotapes show her at

00:59:46.060 1 15 a.m. after the only drink she allegedly had smiling while walking and locking arms with him

00:59:51.780 on the way out of the bar? They say she was not stumbling or looking drunk that the videotapes show

00:59:56.360 that they did not report a word about the smiling. They did report the arms locked. They only cited the

01:00:02.480 hotel employee, but in fact, there were two videos and three eyewitnesses. NBC, um, did they report that

01:00:09.400 she refused the police's request to participate in a pretext call to try to get Hegseth on tape

01:00:15.920 talking about the alleged crime after the fact, and she wouldn't do it? No, they did not report on

01:00:22.600 that either. Did they report that, um, Pete says it was consensual. And after the fact, she told him

01:00:30.840 that she was going to tell her husband, she fell asleep in somebody's room and that the husband

01:00:36.620 told cops simultaneously that when she got home, she told the husband that she must have fallen asleep.

01:00:43.200 They only report half the story that Hegseth told that to the cops and did not provide what

01:00:49.980 is verifying information from the husband in the police reports that indeed the very same thing

01:00:56.520 Pete Hegseth says she promised him she would do is what the husband said she did when she got back to

01:01:03.620 their hotel room 4 a.m. looking totally sober and not drugged. There is not a single publication,

01:01:10.840 not one that is reporting on the implausibility of this woman alleging she had one glass of champagne

01:01:17.780 around midnight, leaving that bar around 1 15, being seen on videotape at 1 15 and 1 30 a.m.

01:01:24.400 totally fine and not drunk being seen by two eyewitnesses in the bar, totally fine and not drunk being

01:01:29.540 seen by a hotel front desk clerk at 1 30 a.m. when he chastised them at the bar at the pool for being

01:01:34.300 too loud, appearing totally fine and not drunk. So 1 30 a.m. she is not drunk and no one has suggested

01:01:40.360 otherwise. And then 4 a.m. the husband is appearing, is describing somebody who looks totally fine and

01:01:46.600 not drug. When was she drugged? When was she drugged? When was she drugged? When was she drugged?

01:01:52.120 Where is that? In any of the media reports? Nowhere. They're too focused on Pete's alleged

01:01:59.580 inconsistency by saying allegedly that he was totally sober, whereas his lawyer says he was

01:02:05.160 intoxicated. And then you look back at the police report and they got even that wrong, Stu.

01:02:10.120 Yeah, it seems like all of this is wrong. And of course, they're going after this for a reason,

01:02:14.880 right? They want to sink this nomination and the media is reporting it this way for a reason.

01:02:19.620 You know, as you point out, it's not the best story in the world. And I'm sure Pete wishes it

01:02:24.540 wasn't true. You know, the parts of it that he's acknowledged are not ideal, suboptimal,

01:02:30.220 to say the least. You know, that being said, of course, you know, criminal activity like this is

01:02:35.220 way, way beyond what we're talking about. And, you know, honestly, you go to Washington, D.C.,

01:02:40.680 and it's going to be difficult to find people. Seemingly, it's very hard to find people who haven't

01:02:45.780 gone down and had these personal issues. I mean, you know, I got news for you. If you have

01:02:49.560 problems with Pete Hegseth, wait until you get a load of RFKs history going back with women. It's

01:02:54.600 not pretty. Yikes. You have a point.

01:02:59.680 It's going to be true. And they're not alone. I do prefer the old school way, I think, where,

01:03:04.740 you know, like we should be able to find people who can do these jobs, who can keep this stuff

01:03:09.500 together, you know, for important gigs like, you know, running the Pentagon. You know, it's an

01:03:15.120 important job. I wish we could find that. From what I know of Pete, I don't know him well, but

01:03:19.100 people that I know have interacted with him had a really high praise for him, generally speaking.

01:03:27.120 But it does feel like they're going down this road, and it's going to be difficult to get through a

01:03:30.960 confirmation because you have one side that says believe all women, of course, unless

01:03:34.900 it's one of their own being accused, then they don't believe them at all. And the other side,

01:03:39.620 you still have, I think, a bunch of old school Republicans who have an attachment to the way

01:03:45.060 things used to go. And whether that's just morally or just more of a larger military, more aggressive

01:03:52.000 military that are going to be looking at someone like Pete Hegseth and being and questioning whether

01:03:55.860 he's going to execute their vision of things. So it's probably going to be difficult, but I still

01:04:00.800 think he has a chance. I mean, you don't think he's disqualified from getting through confirmation

01:04:04.900 because of this. Do you, Megan? I don't think so. I don't think he should be. This is totally

01:04:09.100 unfair. If they're going to disqualify him over something, then OK, look at his marital history.

01:04:13.740 And if you think that rises to the level, I mean, that's at least not in dispute. But this is a

01:04:17.920 totally bullshit allegation, in my view. I just think it's so readily apparent that it's made up.

01:04:22.380 And I think this would be very, very unfair to tank him over. If you want to say he's not qualified,

01:04:26.780 you want to talk about stuff we know he did, that's all fair game. And I think even Pete would say that.

01:04:30.620 But you know what the problem is here, Stephen, is that you could potentially get to a situation,

01:04:35.080 so far this woman hasn't come forward. And I've said I would interview her very fairly

01:04:39.080 notwithstanding my opinion of her story. I would interview her very fairly. But she is

01:04:44.400 possibly going to come forward. I mean, they usually pop up in some way, shape, or form,

01:04:50.240 especially with the Democrats who are going to be salivating over this woman looking to give her

01:04:54.120 a Christine Blasey Ford moment. And that the Trump campaign, well, team, is not going to want to allow.

01:05:00.840 That this whole thing gets like, goes off the rails into another Blasey Ford type

01:05:06.300 inquisition. And it's like, is it worth it? Right? Because there are a lot of qualified people

01:05:11.880 you could put in this position. Yeah, if they don't like Pete Eggstead's marriage history,

01:05:17.160 what do they hear about the guy who appointed him? I think a lot of this, and I haven't,

01:05:23.320 in all honesty, and I'll tell you why, I haven't dug into the nitty gritty details of this story.

01:05:29.000 Because I think like a lot of other normies, this is why you don't smear a Supreme Court justice

01:05:35.180 nominee with zero evidence that he had even met his accuser. Because when you get real things that

01:05:41.300 come out like this, people tune it out. They say, you're just trying to Brett Kavanaugh, this guy.

01:05:46.640 No, and this is what I'm saying, though. Was he criminally charged for any of this behavior?

01:05:51.780 I don't think so. Okay.

01:05:53.640 No. And so, yeah, we can talk. Exactly. No criminal charges on this. And so, yeah,

01:05:59.120 you're right. It doesn't look good. It's Trump's giving himself a headache. But Trump's also the

01:06:03.340 guy who basically, when they were calling on him to pull the Kavanaugh nomination, he said, no.

01:06:07.880 He said, we're going to go forward with this, and you're going to back up. And there are a lot of

01:06:11.300 people who are Trump critics who are not on his side, myself included, who saw the Brett Kavanaugh

01:06:17.300 moment as a kind of a radicalization moment that said, if they're going to do this to this guy,

01:06:22.680 who there's no evidence he had even met Christine Blasey Ford. And now you have another questionable

01:06:29.700 morality nominee coming forward before the Senate, which he's going to have to explain this behavior,

01:06:35.320 and then they're going to have to decide if he's contrite enough or if he's honest enough

01:06:38.520 and vote on it. But this is why you don't – the Me Too movement doesn't go after stand-up

01:06:43.940 comedians over a bad date. You don't send a spreadsheet around called the Shitty Media Men's List

01:06:49.700 with anonymous accusations to avoid lawsuits. They blew a lot of credibility with the Me Too

01:06:57.320 movement, who Rose McGowan is still the only person to come out of that entire thing with

01:07:01.080 her integrity intact. And then they also blew a lot of credibility over Brett Kavanaugh.

01:07:05.880 And this is why you don't do that, because now you have a guy who made some questionable

01:07:10.980 decisions in his personal life. He's going to have to answer for them. But when you say, well,

01:07:15.660 they're going to pull the nomination, no, he's not. This is Trump's bread and butter. We're going

01:07:20.600 to double down, and we're going to defend him, and we're not going to give them a scalp. If Pete

01:07:25.440 Hegseth wants to withdraw, he can do that, similar to Matt Gaetz. You can just withdraw and save everyone

01:07:30.760 the headache. But again, this is why you don't engage in the kind of scorched-earth politics that

01:07:36.780 Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi did with Brett Kavanaugh and Dianne Feinstein, who led that whole kind of

01:07:43.600 thing, because they were going to lose control of the Supreme Court. And this is now the situation.

01:07:47.960 This is very similar to what I said about how you get-

01:07:50.600 We don't know whether she's going to come forward. I mean, it appears that she may be under some sort

01:07:55.620 of a non-disclosure agreement that was reported that Pete, several years later, she came back to

01:07:59.180 him asking for money.

01:07:59.900 Yeah, NBC or somebody can pay her lawyers. Yeah, whoever she goes to, 60 minutes, they can pay for

01:08:06.360 her legal.

01:08:07.460 Yes, you're saying that they'll make it worth their while to come forward.

01:08:10.020 But if she does, this is the thing. So if you come forward with your name, then the media starts

01:08:18.220 digging on you, Stu. And the thing that-

01:08:21.020 Do they?

01:08:22.480 Well, here's what's so unfair. It is unfair that these women can hurl this accusation,

01:08:29.360 and it's out there. And we know Pete Hegseth has been accused of rape. They just keep putting that

01:08:33.480 in every- And we don't know anything about the accuser. I mean, this could be, I have no idea. I don't

01:08:38.200 know who this is. It could be the least credible human being on earth. She could have a long list

01:08:43.700 of lies in her past. She could have accused somebody else in her past, falsely. That would

01:08:48.940 be relevant to know, would it not? Like, what? We don't get to know any of that because her

01:08:55.420 anonymity is protected. Now, I'll tell you something. We recently had an experience with this,

01:09:01.980 with Doug Emhoff being accused by somebody, not of rape, but of slapping her across the face.

01:09:07.900 Completely blacked out.

01:09:09.520 And let me tell you something. We did a deep dive on her. We did figure out who it was,

01:09:13.960 and we did a deep dive on this woman to see whether she had credibility problems. She was a

01:09:18.420 nutcase. There was reason to be very suspect of her. And we did not find any of those things,

01:09:24.580 but we did not rush to air with her name, nor were we given permission to. So I don't know what the

01:09:30.640 media is going to do about this woman. And I don't know whether this woman's going to come forward,

01:09:33.540 but, you know, there are risks. There are real risks because she comes forward and turns into

01:09:37.920 a circus. Stu, I don't know that team Trump is going to think Pete's worth it with all due respect

01:09:42.500 to Pete. And, um, if she does that, she's fair game and she's definitely going to take a lot of

01:09:49.140 incoming. That's going to make her feel very uncomfortable. Yeah. I mean, it can't be a positive

01:09:53.680 thing to go through. Obviously, if it's a real accusation, it's obviously horrible. If it's not,

01:09:58.860 you'd expect a carefully rolled out, uh, unveiling of who this person is with media pieces that are

01:10:06.100 fawning over her that we will get right before the confirmation hearings begin. Uh, that's I would

01:10:11.640 expect nothing less from the media and the left working together. Uh, I don't know, you know,

01:10:16.200 who she is. I don't know what happened in that room. None of us do, but like, you know, part of

01:10:19.500 this is like, this isn't the, I listened to your, your whole breakdown of this story, Megan, and it was

01:10:24.840 the, by far the most detailed that I've heard anywhere in the media that went through all of

01:10:28.900 this stuff. And it, you know, it takes somebody who actually knows the law and cares about the

01:10:34.380 process to go through it with any accuracy. And it doesn't seem like the media has any interest in

01:10:38.500 that just saying, Hey, this person's accused of rape in most people's minds when they're not

01:10:44.000 focused on this day to day basis is automatically disqualifying. It doesn't feel like you could ever

01:10:49.320 go through that until it happens to you. It feels like this foreign thing where, I mean, how could

01:10:54.360 they possibly, um, you know, be innocent of this? Why were they being accused? I heard someone on Fox

01:10:59.200 news say almost exactly that, which was, you know, I, this is a woman, she said she had gone through a

01:11:04.420 situation like this. She had gone, God forbid, had to go do a rape kit. She's like, no one would

01:11:08.420 choose to do something like this. And like that, I think connects with a lot of people who would do

01:11:13.560 that. On the other hand, what we're talking about here is a life destroying event. If there is not

01:11:19.300 another excuse for her behavior that night, night, her life is over. She's ruined her marriage.

01:11:24.720 She's ruined her relationship with her children. She's probably, you know, ruined any, any reputation

01:11:30.140 she has in town with her friends. Everything is destroyed. I'm not saying that that's what she,

01:11:36.480 you know, she came up with an excuse. I don't know, but it's absolutely human in a moment like that to

01:11:42.280 come up with some excuse that would explain away what you did. And we, we were requested for a

01:11:49.840 while that we were just going to believe all women as if women never came up with a, never made a bad

01:11:56.060 life choice. Like they make bad life choices just like dudes do. And sometimes they do really devious

01:12:01.520 things just like guys do. That is very, very normal. And I will say, whenever we talk about these types

01:12:06.440 of issues, the people who come to me and are very, very clear about that point are women. I knew women

01:12:12.000 like this. I went to college with women who manipulated their boyfriends, who said things

01:12:16.400 like this all the time. It's women who are intricately involved and have been in those

01:12:20.640 moments and have friends who have made terrible choices like that. So to act like this accusation

01:12:25.960 proves that it's true is completely false. I don't think the American people are in the same position

01:12:31.940 where they're going to just believe these things reflexively anymore. I think because of the

01:12:36.340 Kavanaugh thing and the Me Too generation sort of like fading out, there is a little bit of

01:12:40.820 skepticism here, but we should be fair here. These things should be proven in a court of law.

01:12:45.280 They should, they can't be just dragged out through the media like this.

01:12:48.160 And in this case, obviously the cops did not think there was even probable cause to believe her,

01:12:53.240 which is a much lower standard that that's the standard to bring a charge, probable cause.

01:12:57.980 They, the prosecution did not believe it was there. They did not arrest him. They did not

01:13:03.280 decide to prosecute him. And by the way, you know, the fact that she was married when this happened

01:13:07.720 and that her husband and her two children were down the hall in the same hotel must be reported

01:13:14.140 by the news media. Another failing in this, um, the associated press report just states that the

01:13:20.480 husband was quote, the woman's partner, the woman's partner. Well, what's that? I mean,

01:13:25.680 that's being married is a much bigger commitment, um, than, than just being a partner associated

01:13:31.780 press, which you should know just a couple more failings by them. Uh, do USA today and the

01:13:38.000 associated press report that Jane Doe was seen by an eyewitness flirting with Pete touching his leg

01:13:42.860 around. Like we went through with NBC. No, neither one does. Um, does the AP report that two witnesses

01:13:51.120 at the bar say she appeared fine and not drugged and does the USA today, USA today cited one witness

01:13:57.640 and the associated press doesn't mention it at all. Um, do they point out that the videotapes show

01:14:05.320 her at one 15 AM smiling while walking and locking arms with him on the way out of the bar, uh, and

01:14:10.020 say that she did not look drunk or stumble USA today, nothing on the smiling AP, nothing. They

01:14:15.600 say absolutely nothing about the videotapes, the smiling or the locking arms. This is such bullshit.

01:14:20.300 Do they report on how the front desk guy saw them at one 30 and said she didn't look intoxicated at

01:14:24.920 all. USA today. No associated press. No. I mean, I could go on. No, no, no. I'm just looking at all

01:14:32.340 those same lists, refusing the cops to request to participate in a pretext call. No, no, no. Did

01:14:39.080 they point out that the timeline doesn't make sense for something being slipped into a drink?

01:14:44.580 When could it possibly have happened? USA today. No associated press. No. I mean, it's just,

01:14:49.740 it's, it's, it's too much. Um, I want to say one thing. The, the audience had a, and maybe

01:14:56.160 next door, maybe we can post some of these comments cause they were actually very interesting.

01:15:00.640 Um, if you want to email me, by the way, it's Megan at megankelly.com. A lot of law enforcement,

01:15:06.180 uh, nurses and prosecutors emailed me who listened to the show with really interesting thoughts.

01:15:14.300 And one, I believe this is a prosecutor who handled sex crimes or it was a nurse who does

01:15:20.500 sexual assault exams, but it was somebody was standing to, to know, um, said the reason she

01:15:25.960 may have waited to go get the exam from the alleged day of the rape, which was the wee hours of Saturday

01:15:33.080 into Sunday. And then she didn't actually get the exam until Thursday is because she said by that

01:15:39.300 point, rohypnol would be out of your system. And so it would not appear suspicious if she had to

01:15:45.220 give a blood test that there was no date rape drug found if she, or maybe it was urine. I can't

01:15:51.200 remember one, one or the other. She said by, by Thursday, it would be out and no nurse or prosecutor

01:15:57.220 would be expecting to find it. Whereas if she got the exam right after they would know definitively

01:16:03.360 whether she'd been drugged. I thought that was very interesting. Many of the audience members

01:16:08.640 thought this may have been a setup by her and, or the husband that she'd been texting the husband

01:16:15.080 about how Pete looked like a creep. And these ladies are making comments about Pete, but she,

01:16:19.940 he reminded her of some guy where the husband said, Oh, you mean the guy who tried to sleep with my wife,

01:16:25.280 um, who they were calling TDB. And some of our audience was like, that stands for total douchebag,

01:16:31.860 which maybe that's right. I don't know. Uh, either way that was interesting. And they think

01:16:37.780 the whole thing was a setup that these two were creating a dialogue. I don't think it's a setup

01:16:41.760 because I don't think the husband would have told the cop she looked fine at 4am. If he was part of

01:16:47.040 a setup, he would have said she came home looking out of it, you know, makeup smeared. She didn't know

01:16:53.180 where she'd been. Like he would not inadvertently have thrown her under the bus like this. Um,

01:17:00.200 and then a lot of the audience pointed out that they thought it was weird. The husband was there

01:17:05.340 in the hotel to begin with. And given his comment about somebody else having tried to sleep with his

01:17:11.000 wife, they said, why was the husband there? Like what, what husband takes the kids and goes and stays

01:17:16.640 at the hotel when the wife is just, you know, some low level handler at a Republican women's

01:17:22.800 conference. Why did they do that? Why were they there? Did he have reason to suspect her from a

01:17:27.640 prior incident, et cetera? That's all. The audience is smart. They raised some good points. Okay. I'll

01:17:34.040 say one other thing before I move on to other nominees. Pete, I know has had a bit of a religious

01:17:41.680 evolution over the past couple of years. He's definitely leaned a lot more into his faith,

01:17:47.940 his Christian faith. And so, you know, the audience can decide for themselves whether they

01:17:52.900 think that'll change his behavior when it comes to wives, et cetera, or whether they care. But I know

01:17:58.200 that. I know that from his friends and our mutual friends. That's part of the reason they're going

01:18:02.760 after his tattoos, by the way, because of that reformation that he's gone under. That's why they're

01:18:07.140 going after the tattoos. So it's, I mean, your, your, your, your best point is, yeah, your best

01:18:13.240 point is how they leave out press media bias and journalistic bias. Isn't about how they lean in a

01:18:18.800 story. It's about the details that they feel like they have to omit to push the narrative that they

01:18:23.560 want to push, whether it's the immigration status of a brutal murderer who great we're financing his

01:18:29.720 stay now for the rest of his life. Um, if it's the details of somebody that they say is a victim of

01:18:35.820 sexual assault, if you have to omit details from a story, um, it proves like what you're doing is

01:18:41.860 not journalism. And, and this is an exact kind of thing that you would say to somebody like Jim

01:18:46.280 Vanderhay and say, if you're going to report on this, report the whole thing. And if you leave out

01:18:51.080 stuff, there's a reason why you've decided to leave it out. And it's not just because of editorial

01:18:55.380 length or time. Um, we saw this for 60 minutes. If this, if this kind of allegation were made against

01:19:01.760 Barack Obama, do you think the media would have left on the editing room floor, all of those

01:19:08.020 exonerating facts? Well, yeah, of course, of course not. Um, they would do, they would go after the

01:19:13.480 accuser, which is what we've seen that we've seen that happen. You mentioned the Doug Emhoff thing.

01:19:17.840 That's a perfect example of how that was completely blacked out during the course of the campaign.

01:19:23.080 And people were shouting this from the rooftops. Okay. So, uh, Doug Emhoff was interviewed on several

01:19:28.960 occasions and the only time he was asked about it, he said, this is a distraction and the journalist

01:19:34.140 moved on. And this is again, part of it where we see how accusations are covered both against people

01:19:39.900 on the political right and people on the political left. And they can argue that Doug Emhoff wasn't

01:19:44.040 running for office all they want. He would, he would have been first gentleman of the United States

01:19:47.500 and had enormous influence over the sitting president. And so again, people see this, they see what

01:19:53.240 is covered. They see what is not. And like I said, when you blow so much credibility on something

01:19:58.780 like Brett Kavanaugh, now here comes Pete Hegseth, who again has to explain his behavior. I fully

01:20:04.080 believe that. Uh, and, and the Senate is going to have to do their job, which they are granted to

01:20:08.440 with the constitution of the United States. But normies see this and they go, well, you, you did

01:20:14.100 this to Brett Kavanaugh. You've done this to whatever you can argue about the EG, you can, you can argue

01:20:19.580 about the EG Carroll stuff with Donald Trump. Um, and people, yeah, you not only played it, you overplayed

01:20:26.140 it. And so again, whether it's true or not, people just tune this stuff out. They just say,

01:20:30.980 yeah, you lied to me about this one. You lied to me about this one. You won't cover something

01:20:34.700 like Doug Emhoff. And now you're trying to push this. Isn't it incredible how all of a sudden the

01:20:39.760 media can rediscover accusations of assault and abuse after not talking about it for five

01:20:45.840 months of a presidential campaign, because they were afraid that if we're the one that writes the

01:20:49.900 story about Doug Emhoff and it leads to Donald Trump walking back into the white house,

01:20:54.420 your happy hours are over. You don't get book party invites. You don't get invited on MSNBC.

01:21:00.200 And that's really what the state of journalism is today. They care more about their social status

01:21:04.520 than they do telling the truth. Very much so. Here's what's so annoying though, like that

01:21:08.300 I don't need them to disbelieve this accuser. And I didn't need them to believe the Emhoff accuser.

01:21:17.140 Right. You just need to report the facts. That's never been my position. They just need to report

01:21:21.040 on it. They wouldn't report on Doug Emhoff. Would I normally be doing story after story on

01:21:27.400 the first spouse's infidelities and also alleged assaults? That one would have made the news no

01:21:35.360 matter what. Of prior women, not this current candidate, but prior women? No. The reason that

01:21:42.840 was such a story is because the media made him our new face of non-toxic masculinity.

01:21:50.380 Yeah. That was the thing, Stu. They were shoving him down our throat as like the new kinder,

01:21:56.360 gentler sweater wearing antidote to these toxic Republican men. And then it was game on. He

01:22:04.380 accepted it. He leaned into it. He paraded himself all over the media as that guy.

01:22:09.760 So it was game on in discovering who Doug Emhoff actually was. I mean, I'll say this for Pete.

01:22:17.340 He's not, in my experience, been out there parading himself as some sort of paragon of virtue when it

01:22:23.900 comes to his female history. So that's one point in his favor. I get it, ladies. I mean, I have a lot

01:22:31.220 of women in the audience who are not ready to forgive cheating on three wives. I get it,

01:22:36.660 sisters. I get it. It's just, you know, to Steve's point. But we're explaining why it's

01:22:41.220 tolerated. Let me finish. We have a president who did that too. And it may be, Stu, that

01:22:46.920 that's it. Trump took up all the goodwill. There's no more goodwill to hand out to the

01:22:52.660 cabinet members. And he gets hung up on that. But I'll give you the last word, Stu, on Pete,

01:22:58.180 and then we'll move on.

01:22:59.720 Yeah. I'll just say that, first of all, with Doug Emhoff, when it really is an incredibly low-key

01:23:05.700 insult when you tell a man that he's redefining masculinity. I don't know. That's not a compliment.

01:23:12.320 That's not how that works at all. You know, I feel like with Pete, you know, part of this too,

01:23:18.580 I think is, you know, he's not trying to redefine masculinity. People just look at him and know,

01:23:23.160 he's a dude, you know, he's a military guy. He, you know, they keep putting these pictures out of,

01:23:27.420 out of, uh, out of him and like, you know, no shirt on. And, and they're like, oh, can you believe

01:23:33.280 this guy's going to be secretary of defense? And I'm like, are you running his like promotional

01:23:37.140 campaign? Like people are going to love this. They're going to love somebody who can just stand

01:23:40.920 up and be a guy. And, and look at, you know, the fact that, you know, his behavior has not aligned

01:23:46.640 with what we would want out of, out of a, as out of a husband in these particular situations is,

01:23:52.240 I think part of the noise around him, you know, they're going to come after that. We all know

01:23:57.760 they're going to bring these things up. I just think that they have just burned themselves so

01:24:03.300 many times over this and have taken what is a good, a good instinct to try to make sure that

01:24:09.360 terrible men are responsible for their behavior. Like that, the Me Too movement could have had real

01:24:15.440 good that came out of it. You know, the message of not believe all women, but that all women should

01:24:19.840 be taken seriously. They should be taken seriously, not just brushed off. And they blew it. They took

01:24:25.120 all that goodwill. And they had no interest in Joe Biden. None. Tara Reid, her story was buried.

01:24:30.220 I know. No, I'm sick of it. I think most people are sick of it. I mean, if I were Pete, I'd go up

01:24:33.440 there and I'd say, I am humiliated about what happened in my personal relationships. And since

01:24:37.840 then I've done a lot of work to regain the trust of my spouse and those I've hurt. And I'm just going to

01:24:42.960 leave it at that. And I'm, I am not going to go into detail on private relationships between me and

01:24:48.020 other women. And I will say this in Pete's defense. Um, you never know. I'm not suggesting his prior

01:24:54.920 wives of doing anything. I have zero knowledge on this front. So please just know that, but you just

01:24:58.920 never know what's happening in somebody's marriage. You don't know whether the other person, you know,

01:25:03.780 and I get it. Like I'm, I'm not making excuses. I'm just saying if I were Pete, that's how I would

01:25:10.080 handle that because they don't know. These senators don't know what, what was the status between Pete and

01:25:15.540 his wives? Like what, what was deteriorating? Why did he make these choices? I don't really care.

01:25:19.860 I don't think the American public cares. It's true. He knows it's true. He should admit it,

01:25:24.320 apologize for it, express regret over his bad personal behavior and see if you can get them

01:25:28.580 to move on. The potential criminal charges, a much different matter that he's going to have to

01:25:32.660 wrestle with. He's going to have to wrestle with it. And Trump has to decide whether he wants to watch

01:25:36.840 that play out on the airwaves. Okay. Uh, let's move on. Cause there's a lot of other stuff we

01:25:41.400 should get at to, including this just breaking special counsel, Jack Smith moves to dismiss

01:25:47.020 election interference case against Trump. Oh, wow. Six case. But time, time to assess the

01:25:56.120 unprecedented circumstances of pending criminal cases against, uh, of a pending criminal case

01:26:02.900 against the incoming president. Um, he wants the case dismissed without prejudiced without prejudice

01:26:11.460 because he's a douche bag. Um, because he wants the ability to bring it again after Trump leaves

01:26:18.980 office. Um, and now they're pointing out the media, you know, that this, this actually leaves open the

01:26:25.720 possibility that Trump could pardon himself to foreclose the possibility of legal jeopardy in the

01:26:31.200 future. Please do it. Do it. Donald Trump, that the country does not want to see this nonsense

01:26:37.480 go on. This is ridiculous. Jack Smith has made a fool out of himself. If there's any way to prove

01:26:45.740 that these, if these cases seem to be politically motivated to stop Trump from becoming president

01:26:50.900 again, when he's elected and they all just go, ah, we tried close the case. That's a pretty good

01:26:56.360 indicator, uh, that they didn't really mean what they said in all of this stuff. And, uh, you know,

01:27:01.760 I'm not a fan of what happened on January 6th, but the insurrection thing, the 14th amendment

01:27:05.900 that it wasn't ever charged with this. We can argue about the legality of the fake electors,

01:27:09.980 but really, if you really did commit these crimes against the country and democracy and you just fold

01:27:15.640 shop when he wins, it's kind of like the end of democracy, Hitler talk. We called him Hitler. It was

01:27:20.960 gonna be the end of democracy. And then he wins. And now it's like, we'll work with him. Oh yeah,

01:27:25.220 let's go have lunch with him. It's all, it was the way that the way, and this was another thing

01:27:29.460 about talking about getting back to normal, Joe Biden's justice department led by Merrick Garland,

01:27:33.880 who was Obama's Supreme court nominee, who never sat on the court because of Donald Trump.

01:27:38.200 Of course, these were weaponized investigations and it had never been done in the history of our

01:27:43.220 country. And if you recall, you know, back when Obama was elected, they asked Obama, are you going

01:27:48.120 to go after Cheney and Wolfowitz for Abu Ghraib and war crimes? And he just said, no, we're going to move

01:27:53.200 forward because it's what's best for the country. When they asked Trump about Hillary Clinton in 2016,

01:27:57.860 he kind of did that. I was just shitting. I'm not going to charge. I'm not going to lock her up,

01:28:01.100 whatever. And then in 2020, here's Joe Biden going, we're going to investigate him and we're going to

01:28:05.780 charge him with crimes. And again, this was one of these things that you, and you opened the door

01:28:11.640 for this, right? Oh yeah. Alvin Bragg, Stormy Daniels. Speaking of January 6th, this is in the news

01:28:18.640 just this week, guys, that the cop who fatally shot Ashley Babbitt, 36 years old at the J6

01:28:25.860 riot, who's been absolutely made a hero of by the left, instead of like asking serious questions

01:28:33.680 about whether she was doing something that deserved her being shot on Capitol Hill, you know,

01:28:40.800 did they see a weapon? Was there something? I've granted she was trying to break through a door.

01:28:44.300 I get it. So were a lot of other people. What was she doing that suggested she was an imminent

01:28:48.960 threat, that she was out to do harm? What we've learned now, thanks to the House Administration

01:28:56.460 Committee's Subcommittee on Oversight, which is GOP-led, they released a letter last week

01:29:02.100 showing that this cop, Captain Michael Byrd, 56, has a long disciplinary record that includes leaving

01:29:10.880 his loaded handgun in a public bathroom in the Capitol Visitor Center, improperly firing his gun

01:29:17.040 at a car near his home while off duty, and abusing a Maryland cop who tried to stop him from entering a

01:29:25.340 high school football field, again, while off duty. Then they said that there are at least three entries

01:29:32.920 in his internal affairs record that are missing, according to the chairman of the committee.

01:29:42.520 This is disturbing, and the media will never, never cover the shooting death of Ashley Babbitt

01:29:51.720 fairly, Stu, because she was there on J6, she was inside the Capitol, and she was trying to push her

01:29:59.760 way in, along with some other angry rioters. However, you don't get the death penalty for that,

01:30:07.520 and that's what this cop unleashed on her, and it appears to have had some history of being negligent

01:30:13.840 with respect to his duties and his firearm. It's kind of fascinating in that every other shooting by a

01:30:22.320 police officer of someone that I can ever remember got the exact, excuse me, opposite treatment by the

01:30:29.460 media. Like, they always take the side of the person who was shot, whether it was legitimate or not.

01:30:34.320 I mean, look, I don't think it was the right, you know, you don't want to be inside of a building like

01:30:38.080 that and pushing forward when you see an officer there, like, probably not a good idea to do what

01:30:43.340 she did. But as you point out, you know, that's, we would hope that it could be handled in literally

01:30:48.060 any other way. And all of these prosecutions, all of these storytelling, all the storytelling by the

01:30:54.600 media, has gone for one purpose, which was to keep Donald Trump out of the job he's about to enter.

01:30:59.420 And they tried really hard on this, you know, coming out now and saying, well, we're going to

01:31:03.700 drop these investigations, we're dropping these cases, is like coming out after the Super Bowl and

01:31:08.200 going to the press conference after and saying, well, you know what, well, we forfeit. Well, sorry,

01:31:12.420 you've already lost. Like, their whole goal was to try to get a jury to look at these cases,

01:31:17.600 take them seriously and punish Donald Trump. And in a way, they got it. They got their case heard.

01:31:23.080 They got a jury, not of 12 people, but of 150 million people who came out a few weeks ago and

01:31:29.600 said, you know what, we saw all this evidence, we don't buy it. That's the end of the day. I mean,

01:31:34.480 I think if people really believe that Donald Trump had tried to overthrow democracy and destroy the

01:31:39.100 country, and they believe those charges, he probably wouldn't have won, even with the terrible record

01:31:45.500 of Biden and Harris. At the end of the day, they didn't believe it. And this is infuriating to the

01:31:50.260 left that put all their eggs in this basket and watched each one of them crack.

01:31:54.380 You know, you look back, Jonathan Turley, by the way, just the news broke the story that I just

01:31:58.560 brought you about Ashley Babbitt and this cop who shot her. But you look at this story, Jonathan

01:32:03.240 Turley actually did a good long piece on his blog, jonathanturley.org, about it, Steve. And he was

01:32:09.140 saying that, correctly, that liberal pundits often refer to the number of officers who died that day.

01:32:17.840 And the truth is, not a single officer died that day on January. Not one, not one. The only person

01:32:23.820 to die that day was Ashley Babbitt, who was shot by what appears to have been a trigger-happy cop

01:32:29.600 with a long history of disciplinary action against him. I mean, why isn't this everywhere? This guy

01:32:39.120 appears to have been a serious problem long before he ever saw Ashley Babbitt. And he points out how the

01:32:46.660 media lionized him and portrayed the killing of Babbitt as clearly justified, which is in sharp

01:32:51.780 contrast to the approach the media has taken in other shootings by law enforcement. An unjustified

01:32:56.460 killing by police on that day was inconsistent with the public narrative pushed by the pundits and the

01:33:00.880 press. And the truth is that President Trump had offered 10,000 National Guards, uh, Guardsmen,

01:33:08.180 and it was rejected. Pelosi didn't want it. They didn't want to make it look worse than it was. And

01:33:15.080 they were worried that somehow Trump might use these troops in some way that they might find

01:33:19.460 objectionable. Um, and Ashley Babbitt, who was wrong in her actions, but certainly continues,

01:33:26.380 but the penalty for breaking a window and unauthorized entry is not death in this country.

01:33:32.780 They won't investigate this guy. They did already in cleared him of charges. It's just,

01:33:36.680 it's a different narrative about what happened that day that you won't hear on these so-called

01:33:41.640 truth loving media outlets like MSNBC, Steven.

01:33:47.160 Yeah, I do think that that it should be part of the story of this as if, you know, did you have a

01:33:52.140 guy who was feeling a little bit more gung-ho than he should have? Uh, I think I'm harder on Ashley

01:33:57.200 Babbitt than a lot of people on the political right. I think that if you're somebody who breaks

01:34:01.200 into the Capitol building or if you jump the white house fence, for example, at that point,

01:34:05.460 you're playing with your life and no, that doesn't mean that she deserved to die or anything like

01:34:09.160 that, but she had many of these folks were like, yeah, I don't do. And that's what I mean. And

01:34:13.180 that's what I mean. There's a lot of this where, um, this is one of the problems with, you know,

01:34:17.180 the charges around January six is there was clearly people that should have been charged

01:34:20.840 with crimes. And then you get kind of like the MAGA grandma going through thinking she's on a tour

01:34:25.940 and to Stu's point about cops. Right. And to Stu's point about this, and this is a, this is the best

01:34:31.600 thing about this, which is right. They take the police officer's point of view, no matter what,

01:34:35.260 no matter what on this side, when we just spent an entire summer of riots over cops, shooting people

01:34:42.020 like Jacob Blake, who had a knife. And then of course we had George Floyd, isn't it? Uh, this is

01:34:47.160 the problem. And this is what the media environment, the media fostered. When you basically say there's

01:34:51.180 not going to be any penalty for burning down communities, or we saw staging, uh, capital houses

01:34:58.100 over things like abortion or Kavanaugh in places like Michigan and Wisconsin, eventually the other team

01:35:03.840 thinks that they can get away with it. And I think that had a lot to do with the behavior on January

01:35:08.180 six, which is, Hey, these people are storming the Supreme court building over Brett Kavanaugh.

01:35:13.320 Nothing's being arrested on them. We've had a Charlottesville every week in this country since

01:35:17.740 last October 7th. And these people aren't arrested. They are just, they, they break into buildings and

01:35:22.940 they set up encampments on the tents and they're just allowed to do this stuff. And people on the

01:35:28.000 political rights see this and they go, how are these people allowed to do this? How are they allowed to

01:35:32.440 block traffic? How are they allowed to burn down businesses? How are they allowed to storm

01:35:36.360 capital houses with no repercussions whatsoever? And I think that that had a lot to do with,

01:35:42.080 well, if they can do it, we're going to do it too. And that also explains a lot of Trumpism in a vacuum,

01:35:47.640 which is you're going to get away with this. How come these people aren't getting away with it?

01:35:52.120 And then they go and they vote. Yeah, you're right. It explains some of his cabinet picks like

01:35:57.700 Matt Gaetz, just the big middle finger. That did not work out, but let's spend the time we have

01:36:02.560 left on this one cabinet pick in particular, because I love Marty McCary at FDA. That's awesome.

01:36:08.880 Of course, I love RFKJ who will be overseeing if he gets confirmed all of HHS, which is great.

01:36:16.120 And then you've got the Surgeon General about whom I have more questions still. Dr. Janet

01:36:21.020 Nesha Watt for Surgeon General, medical director at CityMD, a network of urgent care centers in New

01:36:29.400 York and New Jersey, a Fox News contributor. She's the sister-in-law of Representative Michael

01:36:35.660 Walls, who's Trump's pick for NSA. And I'll bet you dollars to donuts, this guy said. Take her,

01:36:42.600 take her. Because being the person who runs CityMD and went to med school in the Caribbean,

01:36:50.220 I know, I know, elitist, whatever. But let's face it, that is not where our best doctors come

01:36:56.140 from, generally. It's just not. Sorry. Those schools are a lot easier to get into and have

01:37:00.560 generally different standards. Not that she's going to be operating on people. She's the chief

01:37:04.740 spokesperson. So her time on Fox News may have convinced Trump she can do it. She's very pro-Trump.

01:37:09.600 But I don't really care about that stuff so much as I care about the fact that she loves masking.

01:37:14.200 She loved the vaccine. She loved to mask the children. Long into the pandemic,

01:37:21.700 past the point where the rest of us were saying, stop that. Right. Get your kid boosted and get

01:37:27.780 your kid vaxxed. Oh, yeah, your under 12 kid can get vaxxed. August of 2021, saying, wear a mask,

01:37:35.760 wear a mask. Delta's different. June of 2021, downplaying the risk of myocarditis in kids who

01:37:43.760 get the vax. October of 2021, talking about kids getting the COVID jab and how the risks are

01:37:50.120 extremely low. January of 22, still promoting all the boosters and the vaccines and masks and how

01:37:58.560 beneficial they are. The point is, Stu, she didn't see through any of it. Unlike people, even McCary was

01:38:06.900 pro some of this stuff in the beginning, but got there at the same time she was writing op-eds,

01:38:10.760 calling for more masks. And he was writing them saying, no, that was bullshit. Take the mask off

01:38:16.340 right now. Yeah. And of course, as we all remember, when the words 15 days to slow the spread were

01:38:24.520 uttered, Donald Trump and Anthony Fauci were on the same stage uttering them. So a lot of people early

01:38:30.700 on in the pandemic said all sorts of things. And I think there's some grace that is appropriate for a lot

01:38:36.660 of them to be in 2021 and in 2022 saying those things you think would be basically just disqualifying

01:38:44.620 for an incoming Trump administration. You know, Trump obviously was, you know, had some very early

01:38:51.160 instincts to try to shut some things down and see what we could do to slow what was going on.

01:38:56.840 He was off of that bandwagon pretty darn quickly. I mean, I think there's a distinction for Trump in

01:39:01.900 particular when it comes to just the vaccines. And then I think Trump is at odds with a lot of the

01:39:06.940 people in his base as to, you know, the success level of what occurred there. He doesn't talk about

01:39:12.240 it all that much, but I think he's pretty proud of his record on that. And, you know, the fact that

01:39:16.900 he is appointing people like RFK Jr., who are very much on the opposite side of that, shows that he's

01:39:23.400 willing to take other viewpoints. This one, though, doesn't seem, you know, you kind of understand

01:39:28.160 RFK. RFK did something very important for Donald Trump during the campaign. There's no surprise that

01:39:32.620 he would be rewarded. This one, though, just does seem weird. And maybe he didn't have all the

01:39:37.060 information about where she stood on a lot of these issues. I mean, I, I, I'm not in favor of this person

01:39:43.220 at all based on what I've seen. I, I'm sorry. Um, August of 21, she's interviewing with Pete

01:39:49.200 Hegseth on Fox saying Delta's different. If you want to protect yourself, wear a mask. Here's Marty

01:39:55.740 McCary the same month, August, 2021 op-ed in the wall street journal, making the case against masks

01:40:02.380 for children. Very different. Like either you see the evidence and you can be a leader on it

01:40:06.960 or you don't, and you can't. And people who got COVID that wrong should not be in charge of the

01:40:13.840 next gen of our health officials or spokespeople. Um, I'm, I'm against it. Sorry, but I am. Okay,

01:40:21.000 guys, it's a pleasure. Thanks you. Thank you both so much for being here. And, uh, thank you all for

01:40:25.760 joining me today. We're going to spend the rest of the week doing a deep dive into Trump's incoming

01:40:30.360 cabinet. We've interviewed most of them and we'll have that for you tomorrow.

01:40:37.480 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:40:51.000 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - November 25, 2024

America Approves of Trump's Diverse Cabinet, and Jack Smith DROPS Charges, with Stu Buguiere and Stephen L. Miller ｜ Ep. 953

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