Andrew Schulz and Bill Maher - Megyn Kelly's "Double Feature" of Fascinating Interviews
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Comedian Andrew Schultz stops by to chat about his new Netflix special, Life If You Go On Netflix, It s One Of The Top Shows Right Now, and the challenges of becoming a dad. Bill Maher stops by for an interview at SiriusXM HQ in New York that was at times funny, and at times feisty, and well, you be the judge of how it went.
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footy prime daily. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM channel 111 every weekday
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at New East. Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly, and welcome to our Sunday double feature mega episode.
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Today, two conversations with two comedians that brought the whole range of emotions.
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First up, I adore Andrew Schultz. He is so funny. Just thinking about our exchanges makes me laugh.
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He's brilliant. He came here to the Red Studio last year. He's been on many times since the
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beginning of our show. But this was a hilarious exchange where he really opened up about becoming
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a dad and wrestling with the challenges of IVF. It was so funny. You are going to adore this
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exchange. Bill Maher is our second up today. Bill and I have talked throughout the years on this
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show and on his. But in 2024, he came by for an interview at SiriusXM HQ in New York that was at
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times funny and at times feisty. Let's just say he was totally unprepared. And well, you be the
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judge of how it went. Enjoy today's double feature and see you tomorrow. Oh, do we have a treat for
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you today. Buckle up. One of the funniest people in America is with me for the full show right here
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in studio. Comedian Andrew Schultz has a new Netflix special out this week called Life. If
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you go on Netflix, it's one of the top shows right now. You can't miss it and you shouldn't
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miss it. It's only an hour. You will laugh and believe it or not, you will cry too. It's actually
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very touching. At times, I did not expect that. And I was just saying to him before we got started,
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I watched it the same way I watch all Andrew Schultz content like this. Oh, I'm afraid.
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What do you, stand up there and grow a mustache?
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Actually, if you want to know, it's about my wife and I trying to make a baby.
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Hey, everybody, this dumbass right here has a special about his low sperm count, and it's on Netflix.
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I mean, you were actually one of my first guests.
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You know, we just celebrated episode 500 or 1,000, I don't know, 1,000.
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you were like on the ground floor yeah yeah i remember i was in california for that but then
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i saw you this is like right after i saw you at the borgo yes that's right yeah but i didn't come
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up and bother you know that's right that's i forgot that yeah and now look at you i mean now
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your career is just taken off no things have been cool things yeah really cool and personally i mean
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the funniest bit you ever did and it's still one of my favorites this is from a special not like
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on this show, but you were talking about your then girlfriend and how obsessed she was with
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crime shows. I can totally relate to this. And how I remember you did this bit on how, you know,
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you'd watch NFL football with her and she'd be like, and some guy would have a compound fracture
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with the blood everywhere in the bone. And every guy, you know, be like, oh my God. And she'd be
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like, when is someone coming to murder him? Yeah. Yeah. It's like not savage enough. Yeah.
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Why do you guys like the serial killer stuff? I have my own theories. I think it's because like
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when you grow up you know who gets murdered who gets attacked who gets stolen young women yeah
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we're the victims and so like it's instilled in you from an early age by your parents by your
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friends by your teachers by tv the news like you're the victim like and so you know you walk
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around everywhere like oh my god and then you there's a morbid fascination with what happens
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to others like how do i prevent that from happening to me yeah i think that's why so yeah it's fear
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based so this is like this yeah gigantic fear you have yeah we're working something out yeah you
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You know, it's like the same way my 11-year-old likes to watch shark videos all the time.
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Because he thinks he's going to get eaten by a shark.
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I'm embarrassed to tell you that I've been dreaming lately about the AM update that we've been doing as a new pod that we've launched in our feed.
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Because I do it either really late or early morning and it's just on my mind.
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yeah right that's well this is your passion yeah this is what you dedicate your life to you see
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but i could relate to didn't you say did i hear this in the special that you were saying your
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girlfriend always dreams about you cheating on her oh yeah my wife yeah she dreams about me
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cheating on her yeah yeah so i've had that dream with doug too and if i have that dream the next
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day i am such a bitch to him right it is it is funny that you punish us for it right but yeah
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yeah that was what i was saying i think in the special it's like why can't i have those dreams
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it's almost like you're like go go through it walking through it yeah i was like i'd like to
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know exactly but yeah it was it's almost as like you know god shot like the dream arrow and like
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it was just like a degree off you know he was supposed to put that in my brain yeah exactly
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it was weird i don't really have dreams where where i'm cheating on her or where she's cheating
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on you i think i might have had something and i woke up upset i think it's like this is my sexism
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coming out but like when a when a woman cheats like even in like a movie like my my thought is
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like who wrote this yeah this is twisted shit like like if i watch a serial killer thing i'm
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like okay this is what it is but if i see like a woman being unfaithful in something i'm like
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there is a diabolical madman out there writing this shit like we need to like lock him up like
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why would you promote this we're lost as a society i've become this like really conservative
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christian like i'm just like what is the american foundation and nuclear families being destroyed
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oh god look at me getting all you're getting really excited worked up about it yeah i know
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i mean i my girlfriends and i have had this talks this talk many times like would you leave would
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you definitely leave your husband or your boyfriend if you found out he was cheating yeah and then of
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course you get into well is it a one-off or is it like a full-blown blown affair with somebody else
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yeah yeah yeah and honestly most of the women i know have the same answer to both which is no i
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would not leave isn't that but also they have children right yeah that changes the entire
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game yeah it it's also like oh but yeah this is good wait a minute so we can cheat is that
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literally every friend of doug's right now is texting him hall pass no we're going to columbia
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doug not not saying that oh let's see it's just you know like that's that's a oh you know you know
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what i'm curious your take on this like i was talking to some some of the uh the women that
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work with me and um you know there's this like this prominence in uh we're talking about
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relationships now like talking about like red flags and ick culture have you heard about this
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no i must be too old okay so like a lot of women talk about like red flags and icks they have with
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men like little things that they do that annoy them okay and um it could be something like small
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like if it's raining and a guy lifts his shoulders i don't like that it like really turns me off to
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him that's tough exactly so and like they're really like nuanced and specific and i was like
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what do you i was asking like what do you think that's about and um this is my suspicion i think
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that like there's so much pressure for women to be with somebody that they maybe would rather be
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with somebody they don't really like than be alone like their moms are constantly going hey you got
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to get married you got to have someone and then you're with someone you don't like oh god and
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when you're around someone you don't like everything about them annoys you no you can't
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have that no and then you're gonna let them get on top of you never no never how could you but if
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you really love someone like you said they can go to columbia with the boys it has an op the
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opposite effect it's like nothing bothers me nothing at all it's all really cute yeah my it's
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funny because i can't think of a thing about doug that bothers me like that and even after we just
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celebrate our 17th man he's the man uh we just celebrated our 17th wedding anniversary on
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saturday yeah and honestly like even after 17 years of marriage he doesn't do anything that
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like grosses me out he's like i don't know i just find him very me neither he's not the dreamboat
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this guy but he is very funny about not about me but other people that like his number one thing
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that drives him nuts and his brother has it too and i think it's called mesothelioma not like the
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lung disease you get disease you get but it's i may be saying it wrong it's like having sex with
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dead people no it's where you can't stand the sound of somebody chewing ah it drives i was way
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off insane yeah yeah mesothelioma is like the lung disease and this is mesothelioma i gotta i gotta
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look it up but he doesn't like hearing people mesophonia thank you steve krakauer yeah mesophonia
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right where you it drives you nuts if you can really hear somebody chewing chew yeah okay and
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there's somebody in the extended family who's like every time you sit down with this person
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they get a big bowl of raw carrots and start like dying it and both yeah brothers are like
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yeah yeah we can't deal with this yeah doug yeah doug's got his idiosyncrasies which you
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gotta put up with he does so are you a quiet chewer then i'm actually pretty quiet yeah good
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yeah i'm really kind of proud of it yeah i have pretty good table manners that's you'll see this
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with your new daughter i mean that's something with your kids that i have to like bestow manners
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upon them you you can never let up that it's like they don't hear they don't listen you could tell
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them 10 000 times and they still don't listen you don't go to the food the food comes to you yeah
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you know like all the little things and still small bites small bites and still you see your
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kid with like a mountain of food shoving it in there you're like oh i can't send you out into
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the world like this my parents never taught me table manners they didn't never told me i learned
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table manners from the titanic what you know you know this team where like the the leonardo di
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happy with those she's like uh the the long go from outside in with the forks like that's literally
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the moment i remember i had a girlfriend i was like in denmark with like her family and i was
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like using my thumb to shovel salad onto a fork and the father like put his hand on my wrist and
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was like please use the silverware no yeah oh the humiliation some viking i still have some
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questions i have to say i never took you know any sort of manners classes though i would love to get
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some for my kids if somebody offered that i would totally hire this what is that called
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uh etiquette classes like class yeah yeah class yeah this is what they do down south right we're
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raised like wolves that's why we don't have a lot of it i'm watching you whatever i see works
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you know we ate out every meal or like had delivery yes so there wasn't exactly like this
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big display i don't remember my parents ever correcting table manners you just it's something
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i i picked up on later in life when i got to be more of a professional person yeah but i still
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have questions like here's one question for the audience maybe they know maybe you know this
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when you're eating soup do you go outside in or know that i know you're supposed to go
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from the front to the back i know you're supposed to i don't do that from the front to the back it
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is stupid but it's an extra motion like why would you move the food further away from you
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this is this like pretentious like british shit where they're it's like really wealthy people
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have to find a way to make you feel insecure about you not having money and then when everybody
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started wearing suits it's like all right well we got to belittle them somehow oh if you see
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somebody moving the spoon out then they really have money i hate this shit i i what i love about
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america is the lack of rules in that regard yes like we're not trying to keep up with the joneses
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well here's my question on it though in addition to those um what do you do with the soup spoon
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when you are in the middle you want to put it down and or when you're done does it go
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right back in the soup or does it go on the little i accidentally move it off the table and it falls
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and i go oh god and then somebody gets that's not okay no it's either supposed to go right back in
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the soup which is what i think you're supposed to do yeah or you're supposed to put it on the
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plate like the saucer underneath the soup that plate that's holding the soup bowl yes yes yes
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but one of them signifies to the waiter that you're finished and one signifies you're still
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eating i with the soup that's true too i just made that up okay but it seems like it makes sense i
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do know what to do on the plate when you want to signify you're done uh knife in between the fork
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fork and knife at five o'clock yes like ones that well i guess 10 of five at 10 of five
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so one's at the 10 and one's at the five on your plate yeah that i got yeah that's my one thing
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isn't it crazy that we have to like speak in code to the waiters at the restaurant right
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like yo yeah that works right i'm done yeah yeah nothing left on the plate are you a good tipper
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But can I tell you something kind of surprising?
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Well, I always want to be overly generous to the waste.
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that is i gotta tell you something it i never and i go women don't usually tip i just want to
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point point that out oh that's not a big thing that one's important to me you that is you will
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never read a report about me being a bad tipper i wow i'm not going 50 what do you go 50 i go like
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25 or something like that you know i keep it round i got this from sean hannity who tips
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100 percent he does yes oh wow i'm like that's too much no no that's guilt something's going on
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something's going on he's a really generous guy he's harassing waitresses something's happening
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where he's paying them off a hundred percent is guilt there's something wrong but i gotta be
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honest with you this is he's taken no i mean sean is a great guy you're not doing this but you're
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not at all where's my camera you're not at all doing this but i would tip 100 too if i was taking
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my girlfriend to the fucking thing and i didn't want anybody to know about it but sean would never
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do that and that's not the case not it listen he does not he does not need to stray he's with
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Ainsley he's good well listen I was gonna say I would have I would kind of expect that when I go
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back to these same restaurants and have the same waiter like maybe I'd get a little bit more white
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glove treatment yeah I noticed absolutely no white glove treatment I don't I don't think it really
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counts so I just have to feel good about it in my heart yeah which I do not the reason why we do it
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I mean it would be nice if somebody was like thanks thanks for it but isn't it the worst when
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you're like at the bar and you're like i'm gonna fucking tip the but this bartender big and you go
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to put the money down and they walk away and now you gotta just stand there until they come back
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and notice i need your recognition that i left that like this needs to be very clear you know
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my 13 year old daughter just asked this question at the dinner table last night this is where it's
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going for you um she said is any act of charity ever for the other person or is it all purely
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or is it isn't it all selfish um i would like to believe that we are capable of of altruism but i
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think that there are like percentages of selfishness for sure like if you're doing it to
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get to heaven that seems pretty selfish yeah that's that's what she was saying and she was
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saying even just to make yourself feel good there's an element of selfishness in it and then
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my brother-in-law said what if you threw yourself on a grenade and she said no still you're doing it
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like there's some piece of you that's doing it to feel good about saving somebody or you might be
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like awarded the medal of honor if you're you know like there's something in there 13 very cynical
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can i curse on this is that cool okay wow we couldn't have on andrew schultz if you could
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not that's a good point that's a good point wow that is uh that is a sophisticated thought for a
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13 year old i know has she watched everything everywhere all at once yes well she she watches
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some of the dateline specials with me that's probably part of it though tonight she's got
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that side where she's even philosophical and cynical in some ways but tonight she'll be starring
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as ursula in the little mermaid at her school play did she pick ursula no she tried out for it yeah
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so she wanted ursula yeah we gotta keep an eye on this girl right here we gotta keep a very close
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watch on this girl this is because that it is i think that what she's what she's approaching is
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like a very realistic way of looking at life you know which is a but sometimes having that view of
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humanity can be difficult to handle yeah that's a really sophisticated view of it's very hard with
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a with a mother who's in news and a father who is as cynical and funny as doug is yes it's just
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there our kids have a very healthy sense of humor which you would appreciate but like very realistic
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yeah you know yeah i'm trying to think like what is the like the positive impact of that is you can
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have probably like really mature conversations with them yeah she's definitely ahead of her time
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what is her school did it it's a private school it's all girls i will say it's more woke than i
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would like but not as woke as the one we pulled her from in new york city that's the the conversation
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i have with parents public and private is is the exact same one that we're having right now yeah
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it's just like yeah they're all kind of like woke to use that term and it's kind of like a
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we've beaten that term to the ground no they just had one of the on um i don't know it was
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martin luther king day yeah and they had an assembly and they had the head of dei go in
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there and talk to the girls and said just just as a reminder we believe in equity everyone has the
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right to wind up in the same space yeah and of course my daughter my kids are primed on this
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you know we're inoculating them against this bullshit at home but she knew enough to come
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home and be like mom this is what they said and i was like no she's absolutely right on the next
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test when you study hard and the girl next to you doesn't she has a right to see your answers
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you have to show them to her she has the right to get the same grade as you no matter how much
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work you did or didn't put into it yeah i mean that is funny to to have a di program in an all
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girls school well that it's it's like you don't even accept men but that's the you're selecting
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out a group of people you really can't continue that conversation well they can't have the
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oppressors and the patriarchy running the school that is wait are there are there any like male
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leadership in the school yes well not leadership but there are plenty of male teachers just male
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teachers yeah but no male leadership no there isn't no well wait i'm wrong when you get to the
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high school there's a there's a head of the high school i mean she's only in middle school but so
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we're not there yet yeah i don't i don't think they're against men but you know we did a bunch
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of research when the kids were really young on single sex education and it seemed like they could
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k through eight it was a good idea and the good thing about this high school is when she gets to
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high school she'll mix now with boys so that's good because you know at some point you have to
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learn how to be around the opposite sex yeah you do i wonder i'm surprised it's that way not the
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opposite way what do you mean like co-ed k through eight yeah single sex yeah i think they're looking
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i think for girls the philosophy is you know they'll they won't um be afraid to say how they
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feel because you know in middle school it's awkward for everybody and maybe around the boys
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you're a little bit more buttoned up yes and then in the younger grades boys tend to be more
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disruptive and kind of bigger pains in the ass and girls are like well-behaved and so then they
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get demonized so it can be better better for them to be alone too you know where they're not being
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compared to the well-behaved girls like at our boys school the first thing they do for the k
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through fivers is they let them go to gym for like an hour out the system get it out that's smart
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right that's really smart but girls don't need that they're just ready to pay attention and lock
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can i mean oh it's amazing yeah isn't this fun you have all this to look forward to with your
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now one year baby i'm so excited yeah it's great it is like terrifying though all these things are
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scary you don't know anything you really don't know anything and now i like i have this i have
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this amazing empathy for uh yeah i mean i don't want to like politicize this too much but like
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even these like uh hot button topics like you know vaccination and these kind of things like
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if you don't have children like you really don't even need to be part of the conversation at all
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because you don't understand the fear of making a decision that could negatively impact your
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daughter either way. Yes. To do it and then something happens, God forbid, now you feel
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that responsibility. You don't do it and something happens, you feel that responsibility. Yes. And
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you're constantly, you know, these decisions are put in front of you. It's like, oof. Well, like
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you're trying to rely on your doctor and you're, you know, you try to find a good doctor and just
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do what he says. But then this whole past five years has really undermined health in doctors
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has recommended that we get them the COVID vaccine,
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There's like some Jewish guy in Brooklyn that I went to.
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to prove them that i was vaccinated they hit me back they're like yeah this is bullshit and i was
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like all right i gotta talk to that fucking guy again it was it was i'm shocked what did he shoot
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me up with yeah yeah so you got the first two shots but nothing more yeah i was excited like
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i know this sounds crazy but i was like excited to get the first two because i was like i just
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want to get out like i want to party like like i didn't know what the fuck it was because you were
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in new york we went down to miami okay so we were in new york and everything was shut down new york
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And in the beginning, it was kind of exciting.
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It was just me and my wife were, like, making fucking meals together every single night.
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I've never gone camping, but, like, that's kind of what I imagined it was.
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So, like, my life wasn't that different outside of, like, not being able to eat out, I guess.
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So we went down to Miami for four months, and it was amazing.
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My poor guy was in our pool house for two weeks with COVID.
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I was, I just see him in the window, just waving at him.
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So there was this part of me that was like, I just want to be able to do things.
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And there were Nazis in New York about it, which is your real home base.
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do you like so there is this thing where i go yeah we're gonna be more strict in new york where
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we live on top of each other we're all on the fucking subway together like i don't want to
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compare new york to montana like when someone in montana is like i can't believe you guys did that
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in new york it's like yeah you live on a ranch yeah like 500 acres yeah like the rules are gonna
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be different you know i got like a dominican family above me that's gonna play music at 12
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unless the city has a rule that stops the music at 10 that's right so sometimes you like a little
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government overreach if you want to get to bed you know well and we were all being told at the
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on the initial vaccine that it would stop the spread so that it you know would make it make
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you not contagious this is what i feel like people do that's just like so frustrating it's like
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they it's the lies to cover up the lack of information and then you get these like
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conspiracies like every conspiracy i imagine like the truth of it is probably way more boring
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but it's probably like a little incompetence yeah somebody refusing to take accountability
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And it's just, if one person had the balls
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this is the thing it's like give him immunity give him immunity yeah and then we can learn
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everything and we can move on yeah but he's got it no why'd you give this guy billions of dollars
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to manage i have to tell you i i had a couple of conversation with somebody very close to the
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epstein case like very close to it who shall go nameless for this conversation and this person
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swore to me acosta no that there's that there's he could talk too he knows shit too that that he
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wasn't this quote pedophile right that he was into like 16 17 year old girls yeah and that yes
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some may have sort of gotten through that were slightly younger but that wasn't exactly his thing
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and that pretty much every famous celebrity was friends with him yeah and went on his jet yeah
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But that at most, all they were getting was like the so-called massages from these 16, 17 year olds, as opposed to like a pedophile ring.
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Like even in Canada and even like the UK or something.
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And France, I don't even know if they have an age.
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I think they're still defending him over there.
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i mean you think about it though because like how did alan dershowitz wind up you know becoming
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jeffrey epstein's lawyer how did all these world figures wind up on his plane because he had you
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know he had cachet he had money he was already connected he was tight with the people at harvard
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that's all you really have to say that you're tight with the people at harvard and mit everybody
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will let you into their party at cosign right yeah like if you've got these certain credentials
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you're good i don't even need to check in on you no you're tight with harvard you have an office
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at harvard yes you must be legit you're a legit guy why would harvard not even after you already
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pleaded guilty to something with a young prostitute like we're still katie kirk's still
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going to go to your dinner party at your mansion bill gates is still going to ask you for marital
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advice yeah how about the bill gates thing yeah like were you surprised when it came out that he
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was like with all these younger women and like these pool parties and it was like you know he'd
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been so buttoned up in this like totally respectable person am i surprised that the
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billionaire guy had a bunch of chicks that he was sleeping with not so much no but it was totally
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contrary to his image at the time i don't think warren buffett really wears khakis and drinks a
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diet coke on a bench in omaha yes he does this is this is the beautiful lie that we're all
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explain it to me you think that that's what he's doing you think he's just like i'm gonna have my
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hot dog and a diet coke no that's like propaganda he's in a boardroom somewhere going okay we got
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a trillion dollars to move around let's make it happen i thought you were making a comment about
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women and warren no i don't think warren's doing anything with women okay it might be i have no
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clue i have no clue but like it nothing surprises me nothing shocks me like in order to make that
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money okay i'm not talking about like tech billions is a little bit different right because
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it's all like fugazi it's not real it's like okay we think that this is worth that everybody's
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trying to get rich on it stock price spikes the businesses aren't actually making any money
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it's not real it's all paper yeah it's all paper speculation right so but like in order to actually
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make like proper billion dollars like you gotta kill like i don't know a few people right you do
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i think you think elon has killed a few people oh um what do you mean a few what do you mean
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like how with a tesla with a self-driving no not like he shoots like but also he's tech like i
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don't know how about how profitable the business are yeah like how profitable are the businesses
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i don't i'm sure he could cash out on some of these like tesla he's a genius i'm not trying
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to be like overly critical with him but i'm talking about like an actual you are making
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dollars and cents business that you can cash out like i mean yeah i don't think that you can have
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this like pious constitution and do that most of these people cash out and they they sell like
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mark cuban you know he sold the business he came up with and there's just the one sale because it
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seems like the first buyer winds up getting screwed like he thinks he's going to build it
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he's bought something meaningful and then when he turns around like everything's collapsed that
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happens all the time yeah you want to be the one who invents it builds it up into something big on
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paper and then get out of town get the fuck out of there how about elon now he's in all over the
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news for the doge stuff yeah he wore a suit the other night wow um mark mike davis who comes on
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the show a lot he's a lawyer yeah uh trump affiliated tweet out something like two things
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elon has a suit and a babysitter we haven't seen it he's turning over a new leaf you know what the
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thing about elon is is like um he's obviously a brilliant guy and you want brilliant people on
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your side especially if like we're going to world war three like if we are going to go to war with
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russia china whatever it is i think you kind of want the rocket guy yep on your side right like
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either protect us or get us to mars if things go to hell right like let's just so we want to keep
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over here um my concern about the doge thing is this is i don't think there's a single american
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out there that's like i want waste inefficiency and government corruption right this is a
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bipartisan supported issue and i feel like because maybe he's he hasn't developed like the the the
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skill of politics he's kind of like twisting the knife a little bit and it's like too inhumane i
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don't even know about it inhumane i'm just like it's kind of like gotcha here we go where you
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could rally support from all of this everybody wants this the left should want this the right
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should want this this can be a victory for america i think it is i mean like what do we have you guys
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we have that harry engine thing i asked for you know him over on cnn he's hilarious i know him
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from the cellar he hangs out at the comedy all the time oh he does yeah yeah he is he's funny
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himself i love his new york accent here he is talking about the the doge and the public reaction
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this to me was one of the more shocking figures that i saw made me go wait a minute hold on one
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second whoa americans on trump and joe's efforts musk and those those should influence government
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spending and operations look at this 54 the majority say that he and they should how about
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a proof of trump trying to cut staff at government agencies again you get a majority here 51 so yet
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elon musk might not be that popular but these cuts and the idea of spending cuts at least within the
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federal government and cutting at government agencies that actually has majority support
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I was truly surprised by this, Kate, but the numbers are the numbers.
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Democrats want to argue that the type of spending that Musk is cutting is mainly necessary programs,
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The wasteful spending actually wins the plurality here at 42%, according to a recent Washington Post-Ipsos, Paul.
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And I think that is the reason why you see that when it comes to Musk and Doge,
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you see, in fact, the majority believe he should have some influence
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because they believe, the plurality believe, that he is cutting wasteful spending,
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not necessary programs that democrats were arguing so he is winning the pr war yeah but to me there
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shouldn't even need to be pr like it should be 100 what what how so like he should be more clear
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on the doge website which is not that user-friendly yeah i don't even know if it's more clear i think
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it's more like the tweets and like the antagonism within the tweets and i think he's developed this
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very like polarizing personality online and there's a way okay the question right now is
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is it possible to be less polarizing right like what percentage no matter who you are of course
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and like now that he's in this position of it's not only like immense power but also influence
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and he's tackling a topic that is not partisan at all like there is support here so you don't
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need to antagonize it all it's like buddy everybody's on your side if you hire some
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people and then sorry if you fire them and then have to hire them back like it's okay to be like
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hey we made a mistake there we're not perfect we're gonna we're gonna do this right and we're
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going to figure this out like it's okay to acknowledge these things and this is where i
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think like having a little bit more experience in politics can be helpful because this is it is a
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different game you're doing dealing with emotions not facts yeah you could show me those lists all
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you want like people are emotional beings they don't give a fuck like what is it the dweeb says
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all the time the ben shapiro guy he's like uh facts don't care about your feelings it's like
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no no no dumbass feelings don't care about facts we feel things like there is a woman in mexico
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that's going to see the virgin mary in her toast today yeah because she feels the lord
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and then sees it afterwards we don't look at like usually it's a cinnabon
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that's how you know that's how you know megan is locked at the airport
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crisis king when she's at the Cinnabon I try not to let people see me going there I love it
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I love it there's that great uh Louis CK bit where he's like um I went to Cinnabon uh after
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arriving that's sad no I actually I don't go to Cinnabon because I I'm you know in my 50s and I
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just can't do that anymore but I will tell you not too long ago I was at the airport for a layover
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yeah and I wanted this so badly and I'm like I'm doing it and I got not just the small bag
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and not the huge huge bag but like the medium sort of large-ish yeah bag of cheetos yeah i ate
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every last one there was a woman across me kind of looking at me stealing glance you could tell
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she was kind of like is she gonna eat that entire bag of cheetos i'm like sister i am america they're
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just like us it was so good the stars are just like us you deserve a bag of cheetos guilty pleasure
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yes you earned everything what do you you should be eating cheetos every single night well then
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then it starts to come back at you you know like then next thing but then you get the manjaro or
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the ozempic or whatever like that it's better to keep it off to begin with trust me i've had to
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i've lost and i've gained over the years it's better if you can keep it off there's no more
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fat pride huh that really ended with the ozempic i i think if you're a leftist there is you think
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you have to at least say you are otherwise you know i think ozempic ended that did you see lizzo
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yes she's beautiful she looks awesome yes i think they've all realized that but it was hard to do
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because you got to like put in the effort, you know?
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After telling us that we were supposed to embrace it
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and they're like, I'll just be a model model.
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Well, what about Swimsuit or Sports Illustrated
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now bring you back actual hot models for its magazine?
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I guess that didn't sell a lot of magazines
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or gail king oh why did martha go in there yeah and so did gail king and i think uh they eventually
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realized what they really wanted was a baddie back in the day that i ain't gonna watch you watch her
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special yeah i did it was crazy she is a psycho but here's what i'm saying she has some bodies
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that this is you don't get to that number yeah without taking some people out if someone told
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me that like martha had someone killed i wouldn't be like martha oh really well she is a convicted
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felon yeah like you don't think she's capable of murder i don't herself but like getting someone
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else to do it no are you capable of murder i could murder what yeah like if somebody did anything to
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my daughter i could kill them yes okay me too yeah or to protect yeah of course if somebody's
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like gonna you know do something to what about for like you know business oh like could i murder
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somebody to like get ahead or to get a deal or a vendetta no i mean i i'll if or where i could
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convince myself that they did something to my daughter i'd be like yeah i definitely have to
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kill that comedian but can i tell you something like if you're a if you're a sociopath yes
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yeah i because i've talked to some sociopaths they actually have no qualms about this whatsoever
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they will talk to you about like yes that is an acceptable menu item like yeah killing the person
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to take care of the problem is right there yeah like they just don't even and and you know one
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in four people are sociopaths yeah i've heard this like it's uh it's kind of a sad way to live
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though you know well yeah like but because like there's a competitive advantage about not caring
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about people but the human experience is connectivity so like you go without that
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like i was speaking to this guy he used to be a cia dude and he was like borderline sociopath and
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that's what they liked about him because you want people that can make those really difficult
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decisions and i'm sure the cia is all there whatever right anyway and um he was telling me
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that like he he's aware of what people should feel yeah even though he doesn't feel it no they
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study yeah they learn the proper way of reacting but imagine not being like imagine your kid that
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first time you hear a kid laugh and the way that it like transforms your entire idea of what joy is
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yep and imagine seeing that and feeling nothing it's you're dead inside what a horrible way to
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live can i tell you something i can find out whether you're a sociopath oh tell me two minutes
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or less. Go, go, go. This is good. It's a little riddle. Okay, go. Okay. A man shows up at a
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funeral. Yeah. He goes to grieve the dead body at the wake. It was the wake. And he sees a woman
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near the casket and they exchange a glance. You know, they make eye contact. The man leaves,
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the funeral wraps up a week later that man kills that woman's mother why
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um because he's a sociopath well i probably do have the answer but uh what do you think the
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answer is because that woman's mother uh was the mistress of his father you're not a sociopath
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oh why what is it because he wanted to see her again the woman
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now let me tell you something did you see how i went with women cheating but can i tell you
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everybody's my biggest fear so so the sociopath gets that like this wait really they have that
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answer like this and let me tell you where i got this test from my somebody who used to be in my
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life um that person's father was a psychiatrist in one of the worst prisons in america and they
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would actually do this test on the patients and man by man by man if and by the way to my listening
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audience if it came to you right away you might be a sociopath yeah turn yourself in but you'll
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see it has to come like if you're wrestling with it and after like a minute you're like was it this
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you've given a couple guesses and you get there eventually you're good because the sociopath
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immediately is like because he wanted to see her again they just think differently i mean it is the
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it is the easiest path to seeing her again right it guarantees it and there's no moral objection
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on your list again you're like who cares isn't that crazy that feels good that i'm not a sociopath
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yes you can go tell emma yes i know but i knew you were in my head while i was like should i do
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the sociopath test on him i was like what if he fails and i've humiliated this poor guy in front
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of everybody but then i was thinking about the video you put in your latest comedy thing on
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netflix i'm like there's no way andrew's a sociopath what's yeah the opposite is empath
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yeah yeah i think that's it i'm like you feel too much yeah i believe that about you yeah you are a
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softy yeah i'm sensitive yeah i can see that and it's like it's weird it's like i'm sensitive but
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like i can i can i'm numb to certain things not numb but like they don't really affect me like
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criticism and going through all these like random internet shit that i go through yep but um i'm i
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am very sensitive to the people i really care about so like reactivity within like my family
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or friend group uh and then i'm also sensitive to like kind of like cultural trends i can like
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feel like frustration pretty early like what do you mean do you feel one now no not like like what
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do i think for people for example like what i think people really care about um like i think
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the democrats for example like they could win the next election if they just make it a class issue
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like it's that simple and they got to just be they're not they're so risk averse and they need
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to be a little bit more brave americans we have very high risk tolerance or low risk what's the
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high we have high risk high like everybody in our family's history like the craziest people
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in the world came here came here yep like they lived in another country left their entire family
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for maybe it working out and then came over here right so we're built crazy so we like people to
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take risks and we like bravery and despite your politics we react to those type of people and
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like i think this is part of the reason why bernie was so successful is he's out here like calling out
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the billionaire class calling out these corporations and even like people who were republicans like
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working class republicans were like yo who the fuck is that yeah i kind of like this guy like
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But I, and I feel like that's kind of what the Democratic Party is missing is just, I
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need a disruptive guy or girl who's willing to come out and say eggs or a dollar.
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Even, and then you could, I don't know, subsidize it, whatever it is, but like you need to smack
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Because this is the latest messaging from the Dems on social media.
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It's Democratic female lawmakers, AOC, in the fighting stance and bouncing.
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I'm I have second in embarrassment. Yeah. Is that what you mean by fearless and risk tolerance?
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Yeah, exactly. I mean, that to me makes me proud to be an American. I feel safe with those women
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right there. They can defend me. Yes. Does that inspire you to get to the ballot box?
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You know, it's like I don't even know why AOC is there. She's actually,
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you know, like her, hate her politics. Like I think she pulled the same as Trump in her district.
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She's good on the social media. I mean, if she knows how to use social media,
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normally i don't think she came up with that campaign no i think she's like getting on board
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with it but at the same time like her i guess her constituents feel like she's fighting for her yeah
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where there's a lot of this yeah or sorry for them and where it's like i find a lot of times
00:42:47.340
with the democrats there is this like pretentiousness there's this like ivy league educated
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like second or third generation kind of trust fund netbook babies that are like telling people how
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they should live and how they should vote and it's like first of all if you've never had a real job
00:43:04.580
you don't get to talk yep you don't get to talk like i'm almost like if you never had a kid you
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don't get to talk but like if you never had a real job you don't get to tell people how they
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should vote like we we just despise that yeah so what i think they have to do is get back in touch
00:43:20.800
with the working class is is very much make this a class issue and you got to call out those people
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who are giving you money which these billionaires and these corporations that are donating and they
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won't do it and that's why they'll probably lose but the first person in that party that calls it
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out you're going to see the bernie effect happen again well i mean the problem they're dealing with
00:43:38.520
right now is they don't know how to handle trump they don't know how to behave properly you know
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they're way like don't even talk to them we're debating the spoon they're debating whether you
00:43:46.540
should stand when the 13 year old brain cancer stricken boy gets honored they they didn't do it
00:43:53.520
there's a meme going on right now i think riley gains posted it saying they they knelt for eight
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minutes and 43 seconds for george floyd yeah but they couldn't stand for peyton mcnab yeah the now
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19 year old formerly 16 year old who got slammed in the face with the volleyball they couldn't stand
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for dj daniel the little boy the 13 year old boy with brain cancer they couldn't stand for the
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widow of the cop who got gunned down they couldn't stand learning that the terrorist who organized
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the abbey gate attack got arrested but the problem with this is like they're falling for the trap
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And this is why you need a little bit more like boots on the ground with the Dems.
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Like you got to understand like what people think of you.
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I said something on Brilliant Idiots with Charlamagne.
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I was like, I don't know a guy like over 5'9 that identifies as a Democrat.
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and i didn't realize it was going to be so reactive and then afterwards i was like oh wow they
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they they have this deep insecurity that they're not seen as masculine so that really tapped that
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insecurity well they do something about it well that's so you have to find a way to be masculine
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you can be masculine and care for people you get like there's so many ways like i'm a fucking kid
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who grew up in like an arts family in new york city like my whole family is democrats like this
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is like there's tons of very masculine democrats yeah like shit bill was maybe too masculine
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you know what i mean like there was a time where like there was a time where democrats were getting
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laid and republicans were like how do you do this outside of the marriage you gotta wait for
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that is completely flipped yep completely did you feel it was masculine to hold up the little sign
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saying musk steals oh god did you did you feel he would have done that had you been a
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masculine democrat i don't even know i mean but to your point about this is like they're falling
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for the trap the republicans know right that they're going to sit down so they're putting
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out circumstances yeah that they can't they're like if they sit for this they're going to look
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so bad it's a no-lose situation for trump but if they stood for it it's actually a beautiful moment
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yes look at this poor little kid yes and and it's a great moment where we come together it's just
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like doge getting rid of government waste and inefficiency inefficiency is a great thing for
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america we should have bipartisan support for this what dems are doing is they're going you're a bad
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guy and that worked when people thought trump was bad guy they don't anymore that's right they don't
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you're making yourselves look like the bad guys don't even talk about him talk about the people
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you want to help people are desperate yeah they need help you need your build a wall it's eggs
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or a dollar yep you need your your build a wall it's we're building 10 000 affordable housing
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units in every city we're seizing this land and then have developers go wait you can't even do
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that and go i don't give a fuck if you say we can't do it that's what we're doing they don't
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have that guy put your balls on the ground that like just make it happen even if it doesn't happen
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it's like trump saying we're going to take greenland it's kind of fun right right i like
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that shit that's the energy i like it hell yeah like gulf of america i don't care why was it ever
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gulf of mexico i know we're so much bigger than they are right matter of fact they could still
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call it gulf of mexico we don't care do you know what i mean like but that's the energy that we
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need americans love abundance yeah you need to sell us on abundance aren't you the guy you're
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the one who said this to me and i've quoted you on it many times on how the moment trump won you
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over was when he took the guy from montenegro by the shoulder was like to the back which one when
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he was over at like the g7 or the g18 i loved it i love that and he shoved that guy why am i in the
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back right why i'm america nobody even understands what this country is this guy in the front move
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out of the way i will sit here and then he did it and everybody got in line it happens you need
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that kind of that is some like psychotic shit i don't think i would have the balls to do that
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that is some ballsy montenegro's in the back sir bye see you later you're all in the back it
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doesn't really matter if i'm giving you money you're in the back yes are you guys giving me
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money so why are you in the front right it's like that's part of his like weirdly it's unbelievably
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charming charm and humor what did you think of i thought it was very funny the state of the union
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did you laugh great this amount for this country nobody even knows what the hell it is did that
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make you laugh out yeah this is why another thing democrats don't understand they don't understand
00:48:18.340
like why this like billionaire who was given money from his dad is so relatable well why don't you
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listen to him talk i've had conversations with like rich people okay they don't talk like that
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yeah they are incredibly buttoned up a lot of them and concerned publicly about their image and
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they're very deliberate about what they say he don't give a fuck no when the indian reporter
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was asking him the question and he was just dibble-dabbling and then trump let him finish
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and go i don't understand what the hell that guy's talking about you know who says that the
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guy on the construction site and he called her pocahontas at the state of the union this is what
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this is how working class people talk yeah this is what this is like what we do this is how we
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communicate with one another so when we see it happen we're like oh wow i relate to that human
00:49:02.180
being again emotional people we're not ben shapiro feelings no facts that's not what we are we are
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i oh what is it feelings no facts ben says facts don't care about your feelings yeah yeah we're
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not the facts don't care about your feelings we are feelings are the only thing that matter and
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when you communicate with me in a way that all my friends communicate i start to feel like oh i can
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kind of relate to you it doesn't matter how much you try to make that person radioactive because
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he's communicating and hitting me right at my core that's so true it's why his his background
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and construction really made him despite his advantages in his family and when it came to
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money so relatable because he spent his whole life around working class people exactly it's like
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and i and i say these things because i think america is at its best if we have two candidates
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that people really are having a difficult time deciding over i don't want to assist right like
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i don't want a system like a lot of times there's this like good versus evil dichotomy and it's like
00:49:58.420
they almost want the democrats to be bad and the democrats want the republicans to be bad like
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i want america to win yeah that's the only thing i'm concerned whatever candidate loves america
00:50:07.880
more that's what i'm going for yeah well that and that was i think pretty clear between the
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democrats of today and the republican party the best moment of trump like that i've seen on this
00:50:16.320
score is um the one where he's had for that deposition on behalf of in the eugene carroll
00:50:22.200
case against him and the lawyer asked him did you say that that you can grab him by the p word
00:50:27.380
and uh they let you get away with it if you're a celebrity and trump said yes and she said why
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did you say that well because that that's the way it's been for thousands of years you know
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unfortunately or fortunately who would say that in a deposition in a case where you're being accused
00:50:47.740
of sexual assault i did a joke about that and i was like he said yeah he said if you a billionaire
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can grab you by the p word and there's a lot of women they're like oh my god you can't say that
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And I was like, yeah, but none of you have met a billionaire.
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I was like, you're getting fingered by thousands.
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Daily. I walked in that hospital with so much confidence. They handed me a cup. I'm handing
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them back a martini. I'm ready. Remember, I went in the room. I jerked off. I opened my eyes. I
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looked down. I thought I missed. There was so little sperm in this cup, I could have counted
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them individually. There was a red line on the cup three quarters of the way up.
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for what fucking reason i do not know to this day three quarters of the way what
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zoo animal hippopotamus cups are you giving out to people why are you even giving me a cup give
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me a contact lens gaze i'll turn that shit into a guinness
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that was so funny it's part of hello again this is andrew schultz with me today this is the latest
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netflix special it's out now it's called life and it's so well worth your time you know maybe don't
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watch it with like your eight-year-old but uh teenager absolutely love it and it's i would say
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like i watch the whole time where i'm like oh my god i'm dying i'm crying i hope nobody knows what
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i'm watching there's some adult concert in there for sure but it's all in uh but here you it's a
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personal story this whole thing is about your journey with emma yeah trying to conceive a baby
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yeah and i mean no detail is spared yeah but so it's very personal it was unusually personal
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yeah yeah did you did you run it by her first so the the thing was is uh yeah at first like you
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know this is the most like male thing like but it's i assume that the reason why we couldn't is
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because it was her fault right and i talk about it in the special where i'm like she was really
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concerned it was her fault and i was really concerned it was her fault like we were all
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really concerned it's obviously her fault yeah because like men we have this like confidence
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in our sperm that like there's no real reason why but we just know right like every time i've ever
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had sex with a girl i was like oh my god this is gonna be great like what should we do how do
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you know calling the next month i know she's pregnant guaranteed uh which i now know is a
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waste and uh once we found out that her ovaries were perfect and my sperm was horrible um it it
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actually made it a lot easier for me to talk about really yeah because i think the reason why like
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anybody who has fertility issues one it's very isolating because you're so protective of the
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person that you love that you don't a lot of women feel a lot of shame around this yeah true and uh
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at first i i felt like real shame i was like does god not want me to have a child like i was
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like i didn't understand it like i think i'm like a pretty good person and i'm kind to people and
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i'm like why is this happening like what the fuck is going on and um yeah so i get that and a lot
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of women if they are struggling they're just like it they feel like it's a i don't feel very
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stigmatized right and um but once she was perfect and i was fucked up i could get on stage and it
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was really cathartic to talk about it and then once i started talking about it i literally thought
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that i was like this was like a one in like 10 million thing oh wow the same i started talking
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about all my friends start telling me that they're doing ivf oh wow and like all these people in the
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audience would hit me up afterwards about oh yeah you know same thing happened i was like what the
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is this like the last taboo subject how did anybody ever get pregnant before ivf because
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everybody's doing it dude it is like it's unbelievable it's it's almost like i was like
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does anybody really get abortion like i'm like it's so hard to get pregnant why is this an issue
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like how often do these athletes have unprotected sex if they have 20 kids like
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like i couldn't believe it it was unfathomable so um but then it became like yeah they're as
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brutal as it was there was these kind of funny moments that being one of them just that that
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the the humility going into the room with the lady oh we just talked to the audience you know
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doug came in to say hi to andrew in the commercial break and uh we were bonding over our shared
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experience because he and i did ivf with our kids too and uh doug joked that after he had to donate
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the sample yeah first he said he was gonna wear like a red crushed velvet smoking jacket on his
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way in and on the other way out he was just gonna be like that was fantastic i was amazing yeah i
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was always thinking about like do i make noises in there like how uncomfortable do i make it for
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the other guys at the clinic like just screaming random things yes sesame street just something
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crazy but yeah it's like i was crazy it was like a walk of shame when you're walking by all the
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other guys there everybody's there oh god i know what you're about to do it's so humbling yes you're
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just sitting in this room like all of you are in there you're like so why did they make you go in
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to give the sperm sample i didn't think couldn't they so i did it from home once okay the whole i
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don't even i haven't even put like a lot of the stuff in it but like the whole journey was brutal
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so the first one i did from home which was like i'm in the room my wife like hands me the thing
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like it's like homework and she's like okay i'll give you 30 minutes you go do your thing i'm gonna
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go outside or i'm gonna do the dishes so like i hear her doing the dishes in the background where
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i'm like being mandated to masturbate and uh i'm like on our bed like i don't think i've ever
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masturbated on a bed like i'm just on our bed and the bed is made perfectly like everything is like
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set up and i remember at one point like i'm just like i don't know this is like so weird and i like
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looked up and the tv was off so it was just a black screen so it's a perfect mirror oh no and
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i was just like this is the saddest day of my life i'm sitting indian style on my back trying
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to make a sample we send that sample in it comes back and it's like it's it's not good oh and
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they're like not only are they not swimming they're like shaped weird and i was like i was
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like a little defensive so i was like well could that be from like the speed that they hit the cup
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like maybe you know it's the blunt force trauma kind of warped them a little it was just too
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strong it was too strong that's what that's what it is and uh they're like no that's definitely
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not it and i was like okay and uh they go uh they go well why don't you do this for like a couple
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months wear baggy underwear ice your balls every single day ice them yeah yeah whoa yeah yeah yeah
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i guess that's a big thing um don't drink anymore don't smoke anymore and take these pills and then
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we'll try it again in like a month or two and i did that and we tried it again and it got worse
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and i was like why do you think that is and the doctor was like we've never seen this before
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there's some pride in that it's gotta be a little bit i'm setting records i told a story one time
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when dave rubin was on but doug had the this the funniest experience there where um they make you
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ejaculate yeah like 24 hours before the real sample that's going to be like your future kid
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yeah yeah they want you to clean the house yes it's like i can't remember if it's 24 or 48 hours
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48 hours before yeah okay so but they want it to be 48 yes and they don't really want it to be 46
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or 44 because you need the amount of time to build up the new batch yes so like timing does matter
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it just so happened that on one of ours we were visiting my my nana who was literally like 90 at
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the time and we were playing dominoes and i was like oh doug it's time he was like what i'm like
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you got to go in there right now my poor husband and he was like one of these older person's homes
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where like there's five inches between the bottom of the door and the ground you can hear every
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piece of conversation the dominoes like you're palming the double five you know and doug's
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horrible poor doug this is the thing about this is like it's a it's the this the journey is brutal
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when you're in it is the hardest thing that you'll go through in your life sorry definitely
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the hardest thing we went through and um but after the fact it is hysterical yes like they're
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can't believe what you've been through yeah and like there are so many of these things that are
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so funny and the beautiful thing about having a child is you get this like amnesia yeah for what
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you went through to get there i think that's actually kind of like built into our dna so we
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keep making them i totally agree you know like same women have been saying that for eons because
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of the pain of labor and it's so you know devastating and then you forget all about it
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i never had labor because i had three c-sections but my friends tell me it's extremely painful
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oh my emma was in there for 24 hours and then she had the c-section because the uh the baby's
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heart rate dropped oh god that's scary yeah the whole thing is is is terrible when you were doing
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the shots before to prepare for the ivf like did you have any fun uh mood swings or anything oh
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yeah i i was actually fine i i did not have weird mood swings but it was very funny because
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doug does not like he his mom got this terrible cut in her leg and it was so brutal and doug was
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right there he bandaged it up he put the medicine i was like yeah i can't take that kind of injury
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but you pull out a needle and doug is one of those like oh so he so he can't shots but he
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had to in the beginning as it turned out he didn't have to but we thought he did yeah because in the
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beginning they really make it up into a thing like you got to mix the compound and it's like
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kind of back in a hard spot to reach you got to ice the area oh my god like our future family
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depends on this yeah and doug was in a hot like a cold sweat and the superintendent of our building
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at the time his name was lance and they're like it's very important that your wife have a partner
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that helps with and doug is like this is gonna be very hard for lance yeah but he did it good
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he did it he got it through but honestly by the third child you know he doug was no part of it i
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was like i need no ice i'm good boom we're done yeah off to the race it is crazy that they make
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you mix it at home so anybody who's not familiar they give you these two uh i guess hormonal
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compounds and you have to put them together in the syringe in just the right proportions i'm like
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why isn't this done at the lab and then we just hit it like you don't have to make the kit kat
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right like make the bar and then send it to me and i remember like watching my wife do these things
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making sure it's the right amount you got to push a little out so no air gets in there right right
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so you don't give yourself an air bubble like life or death literally and she's like did i push too
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much out will i not get it is this but there yeah there was i mean emma would get like it would
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really get her going would she get angry or just overly emotional oh angry like but we didn't know
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that that was the cause so like i remember we got into it at a japanese restaurant you don't realize
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until you're having like a loud blow up with like,
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and you know, the only thing interrupting the blow up,
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because everybody is already quiet at Japanese restaurant.
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And then once you have like a verbal altercation,
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Oh, I love when somebody has a fight and I'm nearby.
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Emma would feel like they were interrupting our argument so so so we're fighting
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Emma goes are you kidding me and then back to yelling at me it's just amazing well were you
01:02:53.720
so you weren't that guy who was like she's going through a lot these are just her emotions I'm
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just gonna I'm gonna let everything slide I'm not gonna get mad about anything we didn't know that
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it was the case so we didn't know until literally that night i go hey did we do the shot we did the
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shot today right and she goes oh shit we're walking down we were on kenmare street that's
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when you put it together that she's hormonal and then and then she was also like oh fuck i guess
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i'm like really reactive to this and then from then on we stopped going to japanese restaurants
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and then how about after she had the baby did she have like because you're sleep deprived you're
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very hormonal it's the most insane thing if you're did you breastfeed yeah okay that is the
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i think that this is i think that is the most difficult part of child rearing is the the if
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you are breastfeeding full-time like meaning every two hours yeah that is insane yeah it's a lot
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that is insane every two hours so you're waking up i don't think a lot of people know this you're
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waking up every two hours in the night you don't get more than an hour of sleep at a time it's
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truly like a like an astronaut training situation yeah no it's brutal but then then it it lets up a
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little when it lets up this is beautiful bonding experience that you have with your child and like
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it's something even now like emma's still breastfeeding and it's just this thing that
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she's like she doesn't even want to let go of it yeah well then you get to like the six month mark
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where the baby can start having like smaller like a solid food yeah and they're still having breast
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milk and you're at the point now where like you're you're producing the more more milk than ever
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and yet the baby's somewhat getting a little independent yep and the weight comes shredding
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off that's the best moment where you're like i'm making tons of milk all these calories are coming
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off for free oh because your body is burning calories but your your baby doesn't need as much
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milk as from you right as he needed it five months because now he's starting to eat food right but
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your body doesn't know that so it's still burning like 800 calories a day you're like oh my god i
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out of the waist again yeah there's a normal ass yeah thank you sweet baby i always say they're
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selling breastfeeding to moms all wrong that you would care about the health of our babies but we
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know that babies who are formula fed are fine too you have to sell it to them like ozempic you'll be
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skinny yes it is natural ozempic it's natural ozempic let that baby suck the fat out of you
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they put it on you it's the least they can do that is their gift yes wow that is so true yeah
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emma really got her shit back yeah it was like was your baby's only like one now right yeah 13
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months so now is it is it kicking in now like that's usually when you're like what about number
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two let's let's go gonna fire up the machines again literally she was like do you want to do
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it this month and i was like can i just get the special out can i get let's get the special out
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let's do like a weekend somewhere this has been like three years in the making yes between like
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making a baby and also you know making the special and like let's just take a let's just take a
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little vacation and you've probably been told this but you know like the difference between one and
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two is large wait tell me what do you mean like well relationship with them no yeah no when you
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just have one baby like in the beginning you're overwhelmed as you know but like by year one you
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kind of get it down oh yeah and things are you know you can still have a life yeah yeah you can
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still take a nap you and emma can still steal away for like an hour in the middle of the day yeah
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while your one baby is asleep or somebody else would easily watch your one baby yeah but when
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you have two babies, like under the age of three, you're effed. There's no napping ever. There's no
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downtime. This is where you really start thinking about having live-in help. Like who can come live
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with us so I can sleep again? I don't even remember three. It's like all a blur, but I,
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I felt the difference from one to two was much larger than from two to three. Like you, you've
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given up your free time when you have two. Got it. Got it. And like a third, even a fourth,
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I think would have, I would have had a fourth if I had been younger when Doug and I had met, but
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um one to two's big okay my my buddy said he goes he he he agreed on one to two he goes but two to
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three because he just had his third he goes he goes man two to three he goes i don't know i go
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what do you mean you don't know he goes you're outnumbered bro there's nothing you can do there's
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nothing you can do they have you like you're with one this one's fucking around doing something you
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just constantly need help yeah it is uh especially when they're but yeah we want to have another one
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No, I, I remember early on in our tenure of having two, um, Doug went to see his mom one day, his, uh, went to visit his family, but it was just, just a day trip.
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And it was the first time I'd been alone for like 12 hours with both of them, uh, without Doug being there.
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Like I had a newborn and a two-year-old and like, honey, I'm, trust me, I'm, I'm the mother.
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and um so i was pushing it was late in the day things hadn't gone that smoothly i'm not gonna
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lie and i took them out for a walk and i was pushing the baby in her stroller and my two-year-old
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was like walking next to me or he was on like that little ride-on thing that you can put on
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your stroller like on his feet and uh he had this thing where he loved to take off okay so we're i'm
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pushing the baby up a hill and he's on the little ride-on thing standing there and doug turns the
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corner in his car coming home just at that moment right so he sees the whole thing so at this moment
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yates our oldest did not see doug he was just doing his thing he takes off running and there's
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a massive street straight ahead to to which he's running and i can't just let go of the baby
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stroller because i'm on an incline like if i let go the baby stroller she's gonna go yeah but he's
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running toward traffic the other way so all this is happening and there's doug and he kind of does
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a gentle beep and waves and i was like oh oh hi oh oh like totally yeah and then finally i'm like
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lock the stroller try to rescue the toddler i'm like i got it all under control
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no he knew it wasn't true yeah you just gotta see the whole thing is so humbling isn't it yeah
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as you add more and as they get older into the toddler years even more so it is amazingly
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humbling that's the best way to describe it all of it right you don't know anything you know
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nothing it's crazy they didn't give you the baby i remember when they first gave us the baby to
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leave the hospital i was like how is this legal isn't there someone more qualified we are we are
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not professionals at all like they just give you like here's how you wrap it all right have a good
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good luck at home right i mean it's just so do you do are you an involved dad do you change diapers
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oh yeah yeah i feel like you can't you can't really have an opinion on how it's raised if
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you're not doing some of the things like obviously i'm at work you know yep so like emma
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this was actually really hard for her i wonder if if you felt this way at all but like uh
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you know my wife oh there you are there's my little shiloh she's so cute yeah so so emma's
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like uh she's you know very like successful in her own right like she got her mba and then she
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was working and managing uh ai uh projects for apple and then she was like i don't really want
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to do this i want to be a mom and i feel a little guilty even saying that but that is the true thing
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that i want to do with my life like it's always been my dream to be a mom and i was like listen
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if you want to do it don't do it because i said it because then you'll resent me if you realize
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that you wish you never should have quit your job yeah but if you want to do it then go for it
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and uh it was like interesting watching her like grapple with that and that's something that i
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hope changes in the very near future i think it's starting to yeah like i think that we should reward
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mothers that stay at home in the same way that we reward mothers that go work and and value and
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talk about yeah yeah i i feel like republicans are way ahead on that democrats i don't think
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they're there yeah maybe not i mean it's just like when you go to certain countries that like
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value i think it's also like a big city thing where there's not a lot of like family built
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into it i grew up in new york city and it was very rare that there were like families there
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and um so they're just the idea of it like a kid crying on the subway can be like bothersome to
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some people and whereas like once you have kids you see a kid crying you're like oh it's adorable
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i know bad for the parents but i hope that as the pendulum continues to swing with feminism
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or masculinity or whatever these things are i hope that there is this place for moms that stay home
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and it is a privilege but that they don't feel this kind of scrutiny i think it's like a really
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totally agree thing if you can afford it to do yeah i couldn't agree more and also for guys who
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are sensitive and empathic yeah but not man bun sand mandle murse this is the thing i don't get
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about like the masculinity movement right now it's like a lot of these guys like at the at the
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forefront of it like don't even aren't even dads yeah so it's like yeah okay you got like you could
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deadlift like or some are just like you know or deadbeat dads i was gonna say they're producing
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children but they're not even looking after yeah it's like why are you why do you get to decide
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what masculinity is like i think that's like the least masculine thing you can do that's like a
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coward that's right i was talking to rogan about this he says listen there's a lot of bitches out
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there and even bitches need a leader of the bitches and i think sometimes we're mistaking
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them for like being masculine guys it's like having muscles doesn't make you masculine like
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to me being involved in your kid's life is masculine what i mean what tough guy ever tells
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you how tough he is they don't they don't talk about that exactly like the greatest of all like
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michael jordan never said he was the greatest he didn't need to we knew right so like when i see
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like involved parents like one of the most beautiful things about this whole process even
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talking about these things is like seeing how much people love their children and like feeling
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really comfortable sharing that and they'll share these stories about when they first had their kid
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and like seeing dads i mean this guy who's driving me and when i was in austin recently he was telling
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me about how he does this like daddy daughter dates he has these two daughters and they each
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get a different day and like that's the shit i would like to see promoted a little bit more in
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the masculinity movement in america like don't tell me like how much time that you could like
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jog yeah you know i don't care how many miles you could run how much money you have in the bank
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yeah like i don't give a fuck they don't give i'll tell you one thing they don't your daughter
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don't care well you do a very funny bit in life about how you you have there's so much pressure
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being a dad to a daughter because one wrong move and she's on only fans yo and it's your fault you
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missed a volleyball game it's and it's your it's daddy like there's no such thing as mommy issues
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oh we have that okay let's watch that that's so funny it's hot i have a screenshot of the moment
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i found out that i was gonna have a daughter if you want to see stress if you want to see pressure
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put that shit up that's that's a real picture of knowing no matter what happens to your daughter
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is dad's fault i miss one volleyball game she starts an only fans it's my fault
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you're not wrong daddy issues is a thing what's mommy issues no it's not really i mean it can
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happen but what is it it's not as much of a phrase we don't even know what it is like there's no like
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if a kid shoots up a school we don't go i have mommy issues you know it's more like he can't
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leave his mom i that's what i attribute to me that's awesome yeah yeah you did a good job being
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a mom yeah wow your son loves you and has a deep connection to the most important human being and
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like that's a positive effect now you're terrified of making the wrong move yeah like i don't know i
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don't want like i i want my kids to be incredibly comfortable with their family not like waiting to
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jump at the first person who's going to take them away you you wouldn't find it empowering for your
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daughter to consider becoming a quote sex worker oh my god this was praised can we just call them
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whores like i hate the fact that we're like making up these terms that make it seem more dignified
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right it's whore right that's it well what about that girl on only fans i don't know her name but
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she's the one who had sex with like a hundred people in a day and then like and she's now
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going on a tour of nursing homes that's cool i like that i wondered how you're gonna react to
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that i like it i had a crazy thing we do oh we actually my team is way ahead of me here here
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she is and saw 24 her name is lily phillips my oldest fan via facebook and when i asked for his
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address he actually sent me the address of a care home so i'm actually here with him and his friends
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so these they actually figured it out this is heroic i liked this no judgment no no no no no
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they figured it out those are sex workers that's work that is no no no no this is i didn't know
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that they were doing this when they were doing those like you know 100 girls or 100 dudes or
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thousand dudes or whatever i'm like this is disgusting it is disgusting but but having sex
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with old guys in old people homes yeah that is like that is altruism that is when we're talking
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about charity that's what you're saying when she's ready that is charity that is beautiful
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that is fucking beautiful i feel so uncomfortable with it yeah it's uncomfortable yes very but for
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not for them those guys there oh oh they're so excited what do you think like you know could
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they could die happy oh they'll die happy they'll also just forget it and then the next day that's
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the sad part is they won't even remember it happened yeah i that's that's actually one of
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my favorite jokes i heard a long time ago which was um uh like a 95 year old guy marries a 25
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year old gal and goes to the doctor right before the wedding and he says uh is there anything i
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need to know doc and the doc says yeah you know you should know that sex at this point could be
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dangerous even lethal and he said if she dies she dies that's great yeah there's uh my dad is a
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dementia and uh which is you know obviously very sad he's my hero and you know he's he introduces
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me in the special and um but like during this time where em and i were trying to get pregnant
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i would go over every week to see him and uh he'd be like how's things going and i'm like uh it's
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you know rough trying to get um i'm just trying to get pregnant it's just not really going that
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well and he would go uh he goes well if you need some help you know i can i can help you and he
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would forget that he would say the joke and every week i would go over and he would offer to have
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sex with my wife and put a baby in her so this goes on for like six months so this is now what
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i will say is that might be like the negative side of dementia but one of the cool positives is um
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and you know life is about perspective right you can have good perspective on even the worst things
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like he gets to find out he has a granddaughter every single time i see him is that right yeah
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now sometimes he'll kind of remember sometimes it might not be there but like that must be a
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pretty cool feeling so you remember you yeah yeah yeah so his it's his it's it's hard building new
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long-term memories okay like the way the memories it works is there's like short-term and long-term
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and you can create new long-term memories just by continuous efforts so like repeating the same
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thing over and over again with the table manners exactly reinforcement reinforcement constant but
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uh but short term he doesn't really how old is he he's 81 so how long has he been dealing with
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this honestly it started i think when i got out of college like even 20 years ago i started
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noticing these things like very small but it was like oh something's kind of up and then so does
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that does that make you worry for yourself do you ever think about it anytime i forget anything i'm
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like i got it yep but i don't know if it exactly works like that right i know i i have such a fear
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of this and my my mom doesn't have alzheimer's and my dad died too young for me to know you know
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he died at 45 of a heart attack um but i worry about it so much because it's like it can happen
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to anybody yep and it can even if you're using your brain as you do for a living as i do for a
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living sure you're not immune it's got sandra day o'connor who's like i mean you're not there's
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nothing more intellectually straining than being on the u.s supreme court yeah so it's just so
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indiscriminate and it's terrifying to me some say diet yep diet i can really impact and sleep
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every time i have a sleepless night i'm like ah it's over get my early alleys yeah it's coming on
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yeah because you do you don't remember when you have a bad night's sleep you don't remember that
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as well the next day i will say it it does kind of expose like uh your true character in a lot of
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times and uh one of the cool rewarding things about it is just like seeing what like a good
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human my dad is i've always thought he's like this angel but like a truly just good kind human
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like he was my mom had to take his like debit card because he would like give uh the people
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who sell the fruit in the neighborhood just money and forget he did it and then go back
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oh and keep giving he was popular yeah these fucking assholes kept letting him give him
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oh no that's low yeah that is low yeah that's so i made the call to trump and i was like we got
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somebody you know i got a couple speaking of having murder people exactly oh that's i mean
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that's good you take care of him you have a good perspective on it i always feel like if god for
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this happens to me i've said this to doug you know please make sure i'm sitting in a room with all my
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favorite movies just on loop yep and uh you know my favorite audio books just playing on loop like
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i just keep enjoying these series over and over and over yeah i'm not sure that's exactly the
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way it works but that's how i'd like to believe it's going to work it will but i don't think that
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i don't know who knows what will happen i hope it won't happen but don't stress about it now i know
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you shouldn't plenty of time to stress about it later well the other thing is you know there's
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this is one of the things that rfkj has been talking about you know there's been such bullshit
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going on in the public health world for so long and we talked about this about this on our show
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four three years ago where this massive thing came out with this guy committed fraud in saying
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they'd made this major breakthrough in Alzheimer's and that they really zeroed in on the amyloid
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plaque. And then it turned out he had been faking all the photos to show this and they'd been
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repeated. And he was like the gold standard researcher in all this. And now it's like it
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was Alzheimer's research was set back by 15, 20 years. It's one of the other reasons why I just
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feel so good. We have people in there now who will not treat any of this prior bullshit as,
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you know godly and untouchable yeah you know jay bodhacharya who just took over at nih he's being
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confirmed right now as his hearings are underway um they were like so you're not going to go back
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and look at whether childhood vaccines are linked to autism right those are well settled studies
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that it's there's no link whatsoever and to his credit he was like look i understand there's been
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a lot of research on this but i'm not he basically said i'm not going to say never like i think
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there's nothing wrong with going back and looking and then revealing the science to everybody i
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think i think that the the most important thing that anybody that is representing a government
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institution can do right now is be transparent about their failures and their successes so if
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going back and looking at the research and then presenting studies shows that there is no link
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that's awesome yeah now i trust it coming from you yeah i'm feeling concerned like i joke around
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all the time like i believe whatever the last youtube video i watched this that that is what
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i believe 100 i'm easily convinced like i'm locked in so if if you're if you're rfk if you're this
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guy it's like just be transparent tell us where the fuck-ups were yeah don't gaslight us because
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we've been gaslighted so gaslit so much that i feel like that it's completely dissolved our
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confidence and confidence in these institutions and in order to have like a proud american public
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we need something to be proud of we can be proud we fuck up too you can fuck up and we will forgive
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you give us that opportunity yeah but I cannot forgive you if you continue to lie to me that's
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right if you are not accountable for anything at all like and I think that's why Fauci he'll never
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be forgiven that's why he probably took the he took the what's it called the science the the
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pardon yeah it's like why do you even need to take the pardon yeah meanwhile I will say Elon's out
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there like we did screw up we canceled funding for ebola nobody likes ebola but you know that
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we're resuming that more of that i love that like to me instead of looking at that and hopefully
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the opposition or hopefully democrats don't use that and be like see he's an asshole you should
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use that as an example of how you should conduct yourself in public hey we messed up we're bringing
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it back we're bringing those people back it doesn't sound like trump to me trump refuses to
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ever do it he is the first one on which he explained the weave yeah it was right yeah that
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was an amazing soundbite oh dude he was the i think the best moment of that whole thing to me
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was when he goes uh i'm basically an honest person and i'll never forget that i think about
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that once a day because it's actually the most honest thing you can say yeah if you everybody
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looked at that like see he's admitting he's a liar and it's like no no no no no a liar would say i'm
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an honest person i never lie yeah i mean well i don't know if this is true but they say like the
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average person lies something like 15 times a day it's something ridiculous um but no that was a
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great interview that you did with him and that we actually have a clip of it right let's let's let's
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play it and we'll take a break you know i do a thing called a weave i don't ramble what you do
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is you weave things and you do it you need an extraordinary memory because you have to come
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back to where you started yes you always a weave is only good if you come back for that
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that's true you could go all the way over here and then get back so far here or there
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and i can come back to exactly where i started now someday when you don't come back to where
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you started you're binding he he wasn't wrong like it was and he does do the weave and he does
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managed to land it back i mean he's just the way he's like the way he constructs sentences is
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different than normal people it's like whatever idea pops in he grabs onto it and he continues
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and i mean you've been talking in front of a camera to millions of people for decades
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you probably know by now like the people that you listen to are the ones you cannot predict
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the next word they're going to say for better for worse right right you can't predict how he's
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gonna finish this sentence oh god no it could start on ukraine and then he's like i had the
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best falafel you know the thing about falafel is there's a place in new york mamoons we bought
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that building it was a great building like it's just yes and i'm i'm locked in yeah you're you're
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riveted the train is going yeah but he will get back to ukraine at the end he'll get back to
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ukraine to his credit because that's that's the place where most of us fall apart you know you
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lost your train of thought you're off you're meandering down a tributary you never get back
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on the main river. Trump always does. All right, stand by. We're going to we're going to take a
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little tributary now. We'll be back on the main river with Andrew Schultz, whose new special
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Life is on Netflix right now. Go download it. Do yourself a favor. And we'll be right back with
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Andrew. All right. Full time thoughts. Craig, who stood out? Brazil's lime cheesecake started
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bright. Didn't let up. Nah, for me, Italian cappuccino was the standout in the box. But if
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we're talking decadent performance, that's all France. Chocolate creme brulee had the richest
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taste of the globe lineup. New globally inspired
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When your wife first gets pregnant, you have to go get a
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Which I didn't know what the fuck that was. I thought it
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we need OBGYN. I was like, why do we need a fucking gay guy to deliver the baby? What do
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they know about this? It's not their jurisdiction at all. I want some gay doctor to open my wife's
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legs like, ew, yucky vagina. Cross. That's amazing. I have to say there are a lot of women
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to do it but i've never had a male ob-gyn yeah and i never want one my wife's dad is an ob-gyn
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oh okay i'm like who's going to that i don't know some women are totally fine with it yeah he's not
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looking at you as like not an individual no but i also as like a man i don't know why you want to
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because like aren't you kind of seeing women like when it's at its roughest i i they don't see it
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that way like i think they're able to distinguish between the moment they're with that personally
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versus professionally yes of course of course i'm just saying like if you're going to the obgyn
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isn't it like oh something's burning down here right like don't you see it if it's bumpy or
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burning and now you're just seeing like vaginas that are messed up you know you got to go for
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your annual exam checkups yeah they do the full the full checkup pap smear right that yeah and
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you know they can get on up in there really no yeah what is a pap smear it's very unpleasant
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they put like this like clamp thing in you and uh then they take like this long q-tip and they
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rub the cervix and then put those like cells on a petri dish and sent it send it out to go see if
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you have like early cancer oh so it's to see if you have cancer i mean among other things i'm sure
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but yeah that's it i think it's for yeah yeah and you guys have to do that every year yeah well i
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Now you can potentially go once every three years,
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We did a whole show on it, but in any event, yeah,
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It's not pleasant even when you have a female doctor
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I've never seen a cock doctor in my entire life.
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Well, no, but doesn't your normal doctor though,
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just like the vagina has its own doctor and then i could just go to like a nerd like anybody with a
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foot like a the stethoscope and get my balls checked well you're a lucky man because i'm
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sure if you had a problem down there they would send you to a urologist and then he'd grab you
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like a ketchup bottle and you'd be uncomfortable but yeah i guess yeah my problem was i guess
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internal but yeah that's uh yeah wow i know the whole thing with the doctors is like very intimate
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they they get right up in your space and like there's no way around it as a woman you you know
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you have to let them check your lady parts and then you get to the age where i am and you got
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to go for the mammograms and they grab your breast boob and they squeeze it down like a pancake it
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hurts yeah and it's like they're squeezing it and then the woman's running out of the room to x-ray
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you and you're like why am i stuck in here with all the x radiation yeah and they're telling you
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have to do it once a year i don't know if i believe in it anyway i mean you do don't listen
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to me i don't go to your for your mammograms i'm just saying like now i've had to start going i
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think at 40 or 45 and do it for 10 years you have your do you have a breast cancer in your family
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because most of breast cancers come in families
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Yeah, so you have to worry about it no matter what.
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You hate the annual physical for this reason, right?
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about all the things you don't want to think about.
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it's been two years since you've been to the dentist.
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And I was like, all right, I'll go to the dentist.
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Well, I mean, good dental health is very important.
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And the longer you wait on that one, the worse it is.
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You need to go down a shade or stain them slightly.
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do something yeah i'm not good at detecting them i actually just found out that most people are
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wearing veneers who have that like those thousand watt smiles yeah i didn't totally know that yeah
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now it's become so popular that i think it's actually going to have the reverse effect like
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it's going to be like the kim kardashian butt where people start rebelling and i think we're
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going to want to see natural teeth oh okay here's a here is a transition oh good tell me speaking of
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the kim kardashian butt yes her ex kanye west yes has a different wife now bianca they may or may
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not be getting a divorce there have been rumors and reports that they are but unconfirmed but
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before kim i think and before bianca there was amber rose yes amber who wound up speaking at
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trump's rnc yeah yeah and she gave an interview uh on club shay shay with shannon sharp and she
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you you want her to go out naked in public yeah it makes me question like if he really likes her
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or if she's just a tool for his own validation right to get attention yeah yeah he's Kanye's a
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uh I'm just like exhausted by it to be honest like he's so exhausting but he's so good at
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getting attention yeah like I'll just be so annoyed by him and then he'll like tweet a
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couple things and I'll be like holy shit you see all the porn he tweeted no Super Bowl weekend
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oh my god so all my all my friends were texting me like don't go on kanye's x feed which of course
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you gotta do it go immediately of course what's he doing yeah and i could not believe my eyes
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why he's actually posing porn porn i don't think it was him yeah it was a black man and a white
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woman in the videos without the faces in most of them so i'm not sure yeah um but it was very
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graphic triple x porn yeah all over his x feed yeah and i was like oh my god right so then i
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logged off of that and it wasn't until a couple hours later that i remembered to mention it to
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doug i'm like oh my god so he went back it was still up yeah like it hadn't been taken down
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that's not surprised me because like there's a moment like the super bowl where he knows that
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everybody's attention is going to be on somebody else oh so he's like i'm going to make this about
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me oh that's interesting yeah i think it's a constant like thirst and need for attention i
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don't even know if he's aware of that do you think the hitler comments are coming from the same place
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yeah it's the same thing as maga like when maga was that radioactive he was like i'm gonna wear
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the maga hat that's interesting he takes the most disliked radioactive fucked up thing and he's like
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i'm so cool that i can make this cool and he's done that like throughout his life with fashion
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and you know now he does it with like talking points and that kind of stuff but it's i think
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just a reflection of like him thinking i'm so the man i could make hitler the man or it's coming
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from this place of you're not going to tell me what i can or can't like yeah i have total autonomy
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and freedom in my that i respect and like yeah that i like it's just there's other ways to prove
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you're free right well there are a lot of people like that in the public you know conversation well
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i would also go like are you really free if you need to do that right because now you're being
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controlled the opposite well if you always have to do the most subversive thing the most controversial
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thing people that are truly free don't need that yeah they feel the freedom so they don't need to
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execute it every second people who don't feel free need to constantly prove that they're free
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it's back to the old you know michael jordan didn't tell you what a great basketball player
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he was he knew he was yeah like he knew he was i was actually with somebody from another sport
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which i won't i won't reveal who it was because it would make it obvious but they were like i'm
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the goat everyone knows I'm the goat and I remember thinking I don't think the goat ever calls
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himself the goat no it's not a thing no so you've got this very successful podcast now in addition
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to your comedy routines do you like what do you do on that show is there are there any limits is
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there anything you do to make it a success somebody was just asking me this about my show and I was
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like that's not how I approach it I just kind of do what I I just talk about what I want to talk
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about yeah yeah I talk about what I want to talk about and then like I try very hard to not let
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the algorithm dictate what we talk about yep and i feel like a lot of times now there's a lot of
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creators that don't even realize that that algorithm is really dictating to them what
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they should create they'll post a video or cover a topic and it will go crazy and then they go oh
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i should cover that more and then you see people like lose their own personal creativity and they
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just become this slave to the algorithm yes the problem is that when you're going to do the stories
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you want to do you have to accept that some days the stories are going to go crazy and some days
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They're not going to go crazy and your core fans will really appreciate it, but it's not
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And that's been the thing that like, you know, we've, we've, we accept because authenticity
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is like the most important thing to me, but it is one of those things that you got to
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go, okay, well, okay, this isn't going to be as big a story.
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How can we be so interesting or so funny about it that maybe more people will find interest
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in this thing that we're really interested in?
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I really think that that is fool's gold, right?
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just to go for the viral clip because it's it's like you might get a lot of subscribers or follows
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or whatever or even just views or likes of that one clip but they're not real i'm so glad you keep
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going this is great they're not going to say like that's why you see people who have a huge number
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of subscribers on on youtube but very little engagement because their fans are not actually
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like they just click to watch that one clip but then they're never coming back whereas if you
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just work on doing good programming every day they're real the relationship between you and
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the people watching is real they trust you and honor you and vice versa trust you they're here
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and if you really care about something there are people watching right now that might not care about
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it at all and the fact that you do they'll give it that little second they'll give it that minute
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and they'll be like okay maybe i should care about this thing right i yeah i see this i see this all
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the time it's like um and this is kind of like where you can see the grift a little bit where
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there there are people that sometimes are popular because there's great social utility
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right like there's a version where like this special has social utility and i might get popular
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with some people because they're life on netflix check it out with andrew schultz i wasn't even
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trying to plug but like maybe they're going through like ivf or fertility issues and they
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feel like really seen or represented but so maybe for like a moment i'm very important to them but
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then when that becomes more normalized less stigmatized they realize they don't really
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agree with me on other issues so they're like okay i don't need you anymore it's kind of like
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not to harp on shapiro like kind of what he's gone through it's like he had these great arguments
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for conservatives at a time where it was like really radioactive to be conservative right it's
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like there are these people that they like needed to defend their positions but you know they they
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didn't have these they didn't have like the these like beautiful harvard like this like no fat at
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all yeah awesome dart arguments which he's like really brilliant at making totally and he supplied
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them and they were like oh this is the guy now it's not stigmatized at all to be a conservative
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So now they're like, all right, well, we don't really agree with you on Israel-Palestine, so we don't really need you anymore.
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So he didn't build that bond with the audience.
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I mean, his show is still huge and very, very successful.
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Again, again, I'm saying like – I'm not saying that he's not, but clearly there's been some issues over there in terms like a fracturing of the audience.
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And the fracture of the audience to me shows that they're not actual fans of him, but that there was social utility that he provided.
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and then a quarter of them or 10%, 20%, whatever is now going,
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And what you hope is you have this core, which he has his core.
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That will continue to expand when you create authentic shit that matters to you.
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Well, here's to doing that, a lot more of that.
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And if you want to see Andrew do that, seriously, trust me,
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for many reasons we want to support him you will laugh your ass off and there is no way we can let
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megan markle be number one it has to be andrew schultz so you get on there and you download it
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over and over my friends please we're coming for kate hudson okay great to see you great to see
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you thank you for having me joining me now is someone i've been wanting to interview on this
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that book title is a lot funnier when you see it because it's supposed to mock clickbait. Of
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course, I got it immediately. Okay, I know, but I've had book titles that went right over the
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heads of a lot of the audience. This is the tease we used on Fox News for about two decades
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without the words comedian. What you hear next will shock you. Right, exactly. I thought I would
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bring it to the book world no i used to i used to joke that once you start talking and teases
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you've been in tv too long right but i had a book a new rules book out about 15 years ago and the
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subtitle was a polite musings from a timid observer which i thought was hysterically funny
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but every disc jockey in america did not get it they just took it i was like okay no that was
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understatement and it's supposed to be satire but never mind i'll just i'll just do a straight title
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next time so my favorite new rules ever um comes from about i want to say about 15 years ago and
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it was from the book when did that book hit uh there was a one out in 2005 and i think 2010
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of course those are you know new rules books i call them toilet books because they're you can
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read them on the toilet you know new rules are very different than this book this book is from
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the editorials now i really redid all of them i mean i worked like i could never have done this
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without the strike. The strike that we had last year gave me the time to do this. But this is
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much more of a real book. The New Rules books were fun, but New Rules are short. They're punchy.
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They can be about anything. They're not always serious. It's just, they're very random. And,
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you know, again, you can pick it up on the toilet and read three or four of them. And that's that.
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This is a real book. Not that the other words weren't real books.
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What was I lured into in my previous purchases? Jesus.
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But I feel like this one I'm more proud of than any book I ever did.
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So speaking of The Toilet, my favorite new rule was, new rule, stop giving tickets to blind people for not picking up after their dogs.
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You see, they would, but they can't see shit.
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They're funny and punchy, but this one I think people should treat like the Bible.
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I think I should put it by their nightstand and read passages each night, and I think it'll help you through your life.
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Well, in part, it's a diagnosis of what's going on with us right now.
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And in part, to me, it picks up on something you said to me shortly before I came on your show after my own cancellation at NBC.
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And you said, you seem to me, privately, you said, you seem to me kind of like me right now, which is somebody without a political home.
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I mean, I've been a registered independent forever, but I know exactly what you're saying.
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It's just the world's lost its mind, and I certainly would never put on somebody's team jersey anymore.
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I like it that way because I don't want to be a part of a team.
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I mean, I would say I caucus with the Democrats more.
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I definitely think the right wing is much more dangerous.
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They don't believe in democracy anymore, and they threw their lot in with a sociopath named Donald Trump.
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So I just like, I want to talk about your feelings on Trump.
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But this is how, so you and I are very similar.
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I feel like you're kind of a four and I'm a six on the ideological scale.
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We have a lot of overlap, but you're definitely still going to vote Democrat.
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But there's enough commonality to make us shake our heads yes when the other one speaks a lot.
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And I understand that Biden is deeply flawed, but he does believe in our way of life.
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And, you know, I mean, I was the one who was saying from the very beginning when everyone was laughing at me that Donald Trump will never give up power.
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I don't know what could possibly be more fundamental to you or anyone than you have to concede elections.
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He now has all of his sycophants around him parroting his party line, which is when they ask them, will you abide by the election results?
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Yes, if it's a free and fair election, which is another way of saying if we win.
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You really think this is a place this country should be?
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I'm not going to defend the election denialism.
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How about my daughter not going into a locker room and seeing a man's penis?
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How about young men on college campuses getting due process when they get accused falsely
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Well, yeah, I think that's a false equivalency.
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I think these things are important, but you can handle these things through the normal
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had four years to put in place people who will make it work again. I don't know if there'll be
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a John Rafenberger in Georgia, a noble Republican who stood up to him. He thought last time that he
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could count on someone being just a Republican to do his bidding. And what he found out was that
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there are a lot of decent people who are Republicans, which is something I'm trying to
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tell the Democrats all the time. You can't hate, you can hate Trump. You can't hate everybody who
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likes him. And you certainly can't hate half the country. And Republicans is not a byword for bad
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people. And a lot of them stood up. I mean, even ones who I don't like very much, Mitt Romney,
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McConnell, obviously Liz Cheney, Chris Christie, there were Mike Pence. These are what I call
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as good as it gets Republicans for the people who don't like Republicans. They full-throatedly said
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trump lost that election no two ways about it mcconnell said it wasn't even a particularly
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close election people said it a lot of people said and but look i agree with you that the
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majority of the republican party doesn't believe that but i do think there's a difference between
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it was stolen you know the the nonsense with dominion voting machines and all that versus
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it wasn't fair and what wasn't fair the election started what wasn't okay well the election
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the suppression of a hunter biden laptop story just just for one oh for fuck's sake really oh
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then then you're then we're not as alike as you think that's that's a stupid non-story i mean
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yes who there are polls that show some 10 to 12 percent of the electorate says they would have
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changed their mind had they seen it had they known about it wasn't right it wasn't right to suppress
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it but nobody gives a fuck about about hunter biden's dick nobody you're talking about yourself
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I'm telling you, there are data to show people did care.
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Nobody who was going to vote for Trump anyway, or Biden anyway.
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It was about the scandal of his corruption and his dad's corruption.
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Bill, I used to think that Hunter Biden was a hot mess, and Joe Biden was embarrassed by him but had to deal.
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Now I really think he was doing Joe Biden's bidding.
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Joe Biden is the bad guy who sent his drug-addled son out there to collect money.
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And that's more important than what I was bringing up about not abiding by election results,
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not respecting what always made this country great, the peaceful transference of power.
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You're not going to get me to say it was a great thing the way Trump behaved.
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You're obviously someone who looks at an elephant and a mouse and cannot tell which one is bigger.
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That's projection by you because I look at Joe Biden.
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I mean, this is just typical right-wing talking points, the evil Hunter Biden and the evil Joe Biden.
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Hunter Biden just now on the laptop was brought up as evidence of how the election was not fair.
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He's not a reason necessarily to not vote for Joe Biden.
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The reason not to vote for Joe Biden is his policies.
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He's as woke, at least his policies are, as they come.
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How could anybody vote for somebody who keeps this border open with the number of rapes and the number of murders and the numbers of crimes going on with these immigrants?
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But again, these are the normal sorts of issues we've always had in this country that should be taken care of through the normal process we've had.
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You're talking about the difference between this and something fundamental, which is our democracy.
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The fact that you have to respect who wins an election or else you don't have the kind of country we've always had before.
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I mean, I feel like we keep going around the rose bush about this, and we're not going to make any progress.
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But, you know, I just I mean, you keep saying sort of I'm nuts because I don't see the difference between the elephant and the mouse.
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And I'm telling you, I identify them differently than you do.
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Hillary Clinton, of course, is the original election denier.
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First of all, she came out before the sun had risen to concede the election to Trump.
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And then spent the next four years saying he was illegitimate.
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Well, first of all, she didn't say he was an illegitimate.
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Whether you're interpreting her disappointment at losing it as the same thing as Trump not conceding it, I don't know if that's where you're getting it from.
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But again, it's a tremendous false equivalency.
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You could ask Hillary Clinton right now, who won that election?
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Now she knows she has to because of what Trump has done.
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She came out that night in her dark purple suit and conceded the election.
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And then spent the next four years trying to convince us it was not legitimate.
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But don't try to tell me that Hillary Clinton wasn't an election denier and Jamie Raskin
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and a whole host of Democrats who are now in prominent positions on Capitol Hill.
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Doesn't make it great what Trump did, but they don't have clean hands either.
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So how would you put this guy back in there for four more years to leave the doors open?
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I don't understand why it's so difficult in this country to stop people coming through the border.
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And they had films of people coming through this hole and the border patrol just watching them and basically waving.
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I don't understand why this country can't accomplish something like that.
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We can stop what's happening at the southern border.
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And he keeps pretending like he has no agency on it.
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There are a lot of executive orders he could do just like Trump did.
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he won't. And you know why. It's because of the people who use the word latinx who are trying to
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lecture him that it's not humane to enforce our borders. Yeah, I would agree with that. The left
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wing, because they're so afraid always of being called racist, they let that color every issue
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and very often wind up with terrible policies that wind up not helping people. Don't you think
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that's what's happening to him on the trans issue too, which is my big issue that I mentioned off
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the front. Well, I think what Joe Biden is, is a guy who does not want to fight with the left wing
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of his party. He sees that as, I don't think he understands a lot of what's going on in the left
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wing. I mean, I don't doubt if he heard the word trans before he was president. But that's what he
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has chosen to do. He does not want to fight with AOC. He thinks that's where the energy in the
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party is, and he's not completely wrong. So he just kind of goes along with that kind of stuff.
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Yeah, that's one thing that's not great about him. But again, in this country,
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maybe gender is not binary, but politics is. You only get two choices.
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You get Donald Trump, a criminal election denier who is going to transform this country into an
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authoritarian place like we've never seen before, or you get Joe Biden with all his flaws.
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Special Counsel Robert Hurst said he'd committed felonies, but he wouldn't indict him because he was a well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory.
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He couldn't get a conviction in front of a jury.
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Classified documents. All over his basement, his garage, everywhere.
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Well, okay. Again, a false equivalency. They both had classified documents. Here's the difference.
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Immediately, Biden, he shouldn't have had them. Immediately, he said, oh, sorry, my bad.
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and gave them back that's why he didn't get charged with obstruction but trump has two
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classified documents pieces to his case one is you had them and the second is you obstructed
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justice when we demanded them back so okay against biden you don't get charged with obstruction
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but number one where's the where's the classified documents charged against him he's also a felon
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you got your story you know i i i look if you see it that way that's that's that's what i have to
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deal with you're asking me why i see it differently than you do the contest it's not convincing and
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i'm telling it's not convincing it's fair fair enough i mean they both should not have had
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classified documents one by the toilet one by his corvette okay one one multiple many no i'm
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talking about one person okay one of them okay i'll copy right one trump one biden they both did
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that the difference is goofus and gallant goofus said anything i touch is mine forever go fish
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and the other one said oh yeah my bad and i'll immediately return them that's very funny you're
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taking me back to my childhood with that reference but that why can't the difference be one actually
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had the ability to declassify documents and keep them because he'd been the president
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and one didn't because he should have been looking at documents only in a skiff while a sitting u.s
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senator, and clearly he stole classified documents that he wasn't entitled to and never had the
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ability to declassify them. Yeah. Maybe you know more about that than I do. I don't remember that
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part of it, and I always don't trust anything I hear until I vet it from the other side,
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because everybody sort of has their one-sided view of it, and narrative is more important
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than truth. I know this is the right-wing narrative. I'm not like that, Bill. I care
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about facts. I practiced law for 10 years. I want to get the cases right more than I want to
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get clicks. And I have a lot of lefties who watch me. So I'm not like that. All I can tell you is
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those are the facts. And Joe Biden also has behaved in a grossly, grossly extra constitutional
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manner. Not only the nonsense of trying to skirt the Supreme Court on the eviction moratoriums
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Four indictments of a former sitting president,
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which we've made it almost 250 years without doing.
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If that's not extra legal and weirdly non-normy,
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What are the four indictments we're talking about now?
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and the one in New York and the one in Georgia.
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Yeah, I'm saying this administration 100% was behind at least those two federal ones, and there's evidence they were behind the other two, or at least in coordination, though they deny it.
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Do you really think – you don't think that Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton could have been indicted for what they did when he left office with all the furniture?
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If somebody kicked the tires of the Clinton initiative, the foundation, you don't think they could find something?
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I'm not sure what they found, but I don't think it was much.
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Hillary Clinton could have been indicted post her run.
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As I was saying, I don't remember Bill Clinton calling up a secretary of state and saying,
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You don't find that to be a bit of a smoking gun?
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And what he's saying is, I'm only behind by some 100,000, whatever the number was.
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he said so i want a recount and what i i want you to start counting and all i need is this number
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so basically once you get to that number you can stop counting look i i don't want to have to
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defend defend trump on his denialism about the election because i'm more on your team on that
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but i understand why it's not a smoking gun as you just put it
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okay well you know people see things differently they do yeah so this is why you feel like a man
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without a party because your team feels like you do on the Trump stuff. They hate Trump,
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but they're not with you when it comes to your anti-wokeism. So where does that leave you? Who
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do you go out to dinner with? Lots of people. I mean, I feel like more people than ever are on
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team me, whatever that is, because they're the normies in the middle who don't want to be
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ideologically captured by either side. That's who I feel like I speak for. People who are not afraid
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to call out their own team, if you have a team, or a team that you are more on the side of,
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when they do stuff that's goofy. And I think they appreciate it a lot. I mean, I notice
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in my stand-up shows, you know, the audience is kind of half and half, and the liberals will
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laugh at woke nonsense and the conservatives will laugh at trump jokes um most people in this
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country i think understand that there are deep defects on both sides yeah uh and they just want
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they just want the extremists who seem to have the megaphone on either side to go away or stop
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being so powerful you know everybody is like why can't we just be you know common sense and why
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can't we just be the people in the middle? But at the end of the day, no one sort of stands up for
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that because it's just so easier to pander to the people who are a team because those are the people
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who wind up scaring the other people. I mean, certainly on the left that happens. I've said it
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many times. The problem with wokeness is nobody ever gets canceled for being too woke. That's how
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you wind up with, men can get pregnant. Because you can say the most ridiculous thing. And
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because no one wants to be the one who's called out on Twitter, they'll be like, oh, sure,
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men pregnant. I've always said that. I saw a dude who was glowing today. It's just so ridiculous
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what you can get away with saying and just the intimidation factor. And certainly on the right,
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that happens too so you don't you don't seem like someone who's ever felt that have you have you
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managed to escape ever afraid of blowback from your your own side well i i mean come on i've
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been on 31 years it's comes with the territory every week when people say to me on saturday
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how'd the show go last night i'd say if i'm not canceled today it went great you know i mean
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they're always looking to take you down and the knives are always out. But, you know, I feel like
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at this point, um, after 31 years, if they wind up getting me, okay, I had a pretty, I had a
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pretty good run. That's right. And also I think there's just a lot of people who have my back
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and, and they appreciate what I do and they appreciate me, uh, having that bond with my
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audience that I don't pull a punch and I never will. And it's made me, you know, lose some
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audience. That's true. I say it in the introduction of the book. I say, I have lost some people and
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I don't miss them. Those are the more woke people who think I'm somehow betrayed them. And I didn't.
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One reason I wrote this book was by going through all the old editorials over the whole span of the
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show, I wanted to see, have I changed or has my politics changed? And I really think it's
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not mostly me. I mean, the left was very different. Now, of course, the right got way worse also. We
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We won't go back into they don't believe in democracy.
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But the left, yes, went off the deep end also in their own way.
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And so what I always tell people who are Democrats and liberals is you don't have to lecture me about Donald Trump.
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I'm the one who I think who was sounding the alarm bells before anybody.
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Because the stuff that, for example, you just said penises in the swimming pool and the stuff that is threatening to people that comes from the left is so much more in their everyday life.
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Like to most people, oh, Trump and democracy, it's a vague thought.
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But I know about my kid coming home from school and saying, well, they're telling me I can't tell you if I change my sex.
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Or saying, as we discussed on your show when I was a guest, suggesting to your perfectly normal son that he might be a girl at my all-boys school.
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They kept asking them over and over, raise your hand.
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Where are you on the scale of girl to boy, zero through five?
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I did an editorial only like three weeks ago, and I used the word entrapment. I mean, it was about comparing what goes on in the schools with entrapment. I don't think anybody had ever put it that way. But entrapment in the law, I'm sure you know this better than I do, means suggesting someone into a crime.
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Something they wouldn't have thought of to do anyway.
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I mean, I used the example of after 9-11, there were a number of cases where law enforcement basically entrapped people who were not really going to be terrorists.
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The one case I mentioned was the Liberty Seven, seven guys in Liberty City, Miami, a poor section of Miami.
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And they basically went to them and said, you know, wouldn't it be cool if you blew up the Sears Tower in Chicago and taught the man a lesson?
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And these guys who didn't even have a gun, probably the only guys in the neighborhood who didn't have a gun, said, yeah, that would be pretty cool.
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And I was saying, look, when you constantly talk to little kids about sex and gender and constantly put out the idea that maybe the body you're in is not the correct one aligning with what's in your mind, that's entrapment.
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You're suggesting them into something they wouldn't have thought of anyway, because I promise you when I was a kid, it never crossed my mind.
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I mean, I thought a lot of, you know, how could I learn how to talk to a girl?
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But even at that age, we didn't want to talk to a girl.
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See, this is where it's just so frustrating to me because I looked at that Biden event where he had all the trans people out in front of the White House.
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It was like National Trans Day of Visibility,
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And I realize you could make the dignity argument
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And I'm like, how do we get stuck with this, right?
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Like how, why didn't the Democrats replace him?
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I think they thought he was the strongest candidate,
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the one who could sort of be the strongest leader
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But I look at Biden and I feel like the Democrats
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I mean, my first show back after the strike ended,
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the first editorial I did was called Ruth Bader Biden.
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I was saying if he continues on, if he doesn't get out of the race, he's going to be Ruth Bader Biden.
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He's going to be the person who hung around too long, destroyed his legacy and probably the country with it.
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But he's got to get out now because, you know, too long at the fair.
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Ruth Bader Ginsburg was a justice the liberals loved.
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And I'm sure she did some great things and was a pioneer.
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And, I mean, the story goes, Obama had her to lunch once, like I think in 2013, and was kind of hinting around, hey, wouldn't it be great if you spent a little more time with the grandkids?
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And she didn't take the hint and thought she'd live forever, which was really crazy because she had been through a lot of really serious medical issues.
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And then, of course, it happened. And then, of course, Mitch McConnell, who would not even give Merrick Garland a hearing, which was talk about unconstitutional, suddenly, of course, found it in his heart to push through Amy Coney Barrett immediately.
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So that's what you get for trusting the other side. So I thought he should step down. But apparently that hasn't happened.
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I would hope the Democrats, some of them would think it's still not too late.
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I mean, weirder things have happened in American politics, and I don't think anyone would bat an eye that it was out of the ordinary.
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He should have ran when he was popular in, what was it, 2012?
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The longer you stay around, the worse you're going to do, because they have more to get you on.
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He's only been a senator a couple of years, and he went, good.
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Chris Christie before Bridgegate, before Beachgate, all those pictures were just devastating to him.
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And then all the Trump lapdoggery, which really kind of sunk him.
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I remember with Trump, he was like, I love him, I hate him, I love him, I hate him.
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And then, you know, when you're like, it's like, and Romney too.
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And that was another start of like his breakup with the Republican Party where, you know, he was like blowing with the wind.
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If I were a Democrat, I'd be begging for them to sub in somebody else.
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Even Kamala might be better at this point, although I doubt it.
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You know, everybody talks about Michelle Obama as the big hope, and she doesn't want to do it.
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No, she doesn't want to do it, and I don't blame her.
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and they already served i mean so what do you think is going to happen
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well i i know one thing i can guarantee will happen is that trump will say he won whether
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he won or lost i agree with that well that's not a good thing for america is it i think on january
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20th 2025 he'll show up at the white house whether he's invited or not and i don't think
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that's going to be good we're now he's gonna bomb in if he lost yes oh yeah bomb is a word i wouldn't
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even throw around lightly he's not gonna do that right like there was never an attack on the
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capitol oh i hear you i hear you but he's not going to show up at the inauguration show up at
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the capitol and break windows and knock down doors and kill cops and chase and they didn't
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break windows. They didn't kill cops. They of course did. No, they didn't. Who did? They died
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of natural causes that day? Yeah. Nobody died that day. Cops. No, not true. Okay. Oh, I don't
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remember the names. They didn't. There was Brian Sicknick who died later after the fact. And the
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coroner's report did not say it was because of what he had inhaled that day. He said it had
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possibly accelerated the condition that killed him. Okay. Well, attacked cops. I thought they
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I thought they were the law enforcement people.
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I mean, Trump now says he's going to pardon all those January 6th insurrectionists.
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Because who wants to live in a country where the people who try to overthrow the government are seen as the bad guys, huh?
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They chased duly elected representatives out of the building and wanted to hang the vice president for certifying the election.
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The people who engaged in violent acts or actually made threats along those lines are all being prosecuted appropriately.
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And I've said repeatedly, I hope they get the book thrown at them, and they've had it.
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You're so upset about the entrapment that happened of the Muslims after 9-11.
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How about the entrapment that happened to some of those J6 protesters?
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Wait, wait, wait. Let's go back to what I'm upset about with the Muslims.
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That we talked about after 9-11 and the feds getting involved.
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Well, my point is there are I'm not going to again, you're making me defend things that I.
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Then you shouldn't that are horrible, but don't defend them.
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Because it's more nuanced than you're suggesting.
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There was never any possibility that they were.
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I've heard you refer to it as a attempt to take over the government.
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Security was waving them in one after the other.
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I can show you the footage of them knocking through the gates.
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I can show you the footage of many of them being welcomed in by cops, Bill.
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See, that's the difference between the two of us.
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I will make a distinction between those who truly behave badly and those who thought they were having a good time in Statuary Hall.
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Yeah, there were some people who just came to meander and wander around.
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I've seen the documentary that Alexander Pelosi did on it.
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It's interesting because a lot of them were just like, oh, yeah, it's an interesting place to go, and let's see what happens.
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There's also footage of people, and there were people who absolutely intended to stop that election.
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Maybe you don't like that word insurrectionist because it got too, I know, it's too anti-Republican, but that's what it is.
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The legal definition of insurrection, they don't meet, and that's why it wasn't actually charged.
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It's a leftist dream to try to make it sound even worse than it was.
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These leftists who didn't care at all when their people were out on the roads killing cops, actually killing, hurting cops, killing others in the BLM protests, suddenly found their conscience when it happened on J6.
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Doing it in the service of trying to overthrow the government of the United States is a little bit different.
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It wouldn't happen because we were lucky it didn't happen.
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Trump tries to commit crimes all the time, like this one.
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The fact that he doesn't succeed doesn't make it better.
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But, you know, we are not exactly like the detective and the serial killer.
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We see a very different reality, which is fine.
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We have to be able to talk and disagree and still be civil.
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Now, let's talk about universities and Hamas and Israel, because I know you've been, I
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Right where we've got people in the scarves with the Hezbollah and the Hamas flags chanting at Jews that they can't go to class.
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Again, for people who say to me, you know, you make fun of the left more than you used to.
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First of all, I'm a comedian and you're a lot funnier than you used to be.
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not intentionally, but you are, you know, not just pregnant men and identity politics and
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oversensitivity and victim culture and cancel culture. There's lots of funny stuff. But if I
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ever needed a reason or a rationale for making the case that the left has changed, it would be
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this, the fact that they're now marching for the terrorists. Really? Right. The people who see
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themselves as the most liberal people in the world. The social justice warriors are standing
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with some of the most illiberal people in the world. I mean, I'm going to do my next editorial
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I'm going to do when I get back to work at my day job is about, look, kids, I know you're looking
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for a cause. And that's admirable that kids want to have a cause. I got one for you. Women,
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women around the world especially in muslim majority countries hamas i mean really you're
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marching for hamas do you know that there are no equal rights for women as regards
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almost everything you could imagine speech you not voting um free movement divorce um property
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rights uh freedom from sexual harassment freedom from sexual violence i mean every possible thing
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Those are the people we want to control from the river to the sea.
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Even the people, of course, under the rule of Hamas hate them.
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It's a fascist dictatorship with a hard right religious bent.
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Of course, they were praising, as you know, on TikTok, the Bin Laden letter and doing the Muslim call to prayer five times a day.
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These are people who are probably in Catholic mass for most of their formative years or Christian mass.
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Now they're down on the prayer rug having absolutely no idea if you move to one of those countries where that's practiced in the Middle East, they're going to mutilate your genitals.
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Say goodbye to sexual pleasure because that's what the people you're praying to push.
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It said, you know, queers for Palestine, you know, because they have that banner.
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And on the bottom, it's a guy getting thrown out the window, Palestine for queers.
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Well, I pulled this clip because it turned out to be a very famous clip.
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And, you know, as usual, on a lot of these issues,
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we were ahead of the curve in sort of identifying,
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no, there's actually a problem here that we're not acknowledging.
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gets conflated with bigotry toward Muslims as people.
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So, hold on, are you the person who understands
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You're the interpreter of that, so you can say, well, this is...
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You're saying that Islamophobia is not a real thing.
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I'm not denying that certain people are bigoted against Muslims as people.
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You're not listening to what we are saying.
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No liberal doesn't want you to criticize bad ideas.
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But Islam at this moment is the motherlode of bad ideas.
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And again, this is one of the big problems with the left today,
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And as the guy who is trying to, like, be the common sense person in the middle, just speak for the normies, everything, I think, to a lot of people strikes it the way it strikes me, as we start with one thing, this idea over here, and then we're all the way on the other side over here.
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In this issue, of course, you know, as we were saying over there, there are people who are bigoted, and that's wrong.
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And, of course, it's great that we got more impatient with racism in this country.
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That is the appropriate response I think we should have toward racism, being impatient with it.
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And then it goes all the way to, and no one who is a person of color can ever do anything wrong.
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That's how you get, we don't talk about China.
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China puts the Uyghurs in concentration camps.
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The president of Burundi was on the front page of the New York Times a month ago saying we should march the gays into football stadiums and kill them for just being gay.
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Boko Haram captures entire villages of children, but none of these crimes are coming from white people.
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So crickets. Really, kids? Nothing? No marching against any of this?
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You raise this point in the book, too, and I thought it was a really good one, about how when we do our, you know, look back at history, only the whites get excoriated for their bad behavior 200 years ago.
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I think 11% of certain, was it the whole earth or maybe it's Asia?
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descended from Genghis Khan because he colonized a lot of vaginas. I mean, yeah, I mean, look,
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it was a different era. I also, there's a couple of really funny editorials, essays in that book
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about time and the idea that the woke have this crazy idea that people who lived 500 years ago
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really should have known better. They have this magic moral time machine where they imagine what
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they would be doing in 1758 and it's always better than... And it wouldn't have been using
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the term master bedroom. No, that's another thing, yes. And again, that's another point I'm always
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trying to make is that the difference between old school liberals like me and the woke is things
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like that. People, I think, have this idea that wokeness is an extension of liberalism and it
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very often is something that goes so far, it actually turns around and becomes the opposite.
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yes i agree with that yeah uh the thing that you just mentioned about master bedroom or
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you know blacklist or these terms of thumb jip you know i mean reservation i guess we're not
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supposed to say because it's you know insulting to the indians i don't what are you supposed to
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say when you go to a restaurant there's something wrong with picnic too we're not allowed to say
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picnic anymore. I can't remember why. We have a, we're supposed to eat here. It's just, it's just,
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so again, wokeness seems a lot about canceling people, catching people at something, renaming
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stuff. Liberalism was at least about trying to fix things. It was about trying to lift people up.
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The people who had been forgotten genuinely, and there are many of them, and downtrodden,
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these are the people we wanted to lift up. That's different than just pointing fingers and saying,
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there's an essay in there about progressophobia
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They do not want to acknowledge progress, which is crazy because it is the product they're selling.
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Because somehow in their mind, if you acknowledge progress, then you're not as pure as the other person who says, no, things are still horrible.
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Well, lots of things are still horrible and things just objectively are way better.
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Did you see that Biden speech at Morehouse College?
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it's an it's a it's a black college and it he went they gave him an honorary degree it's where
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mlk went this is when just this past weekend so they gave him an honorary degree and he did you
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know gave a speech and first of all the fact that they're giving an honorary degree to joe biden who's
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like i mean the list of racist comments that guy has made is as long as santa santa scroll but okay
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fine so they got him to speak there he they made him feel good about himself and then do we have
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it, you guys. I think we have a bit of a soundbite of him pulling it over. But it was the most
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pandering, absurd picture of blacks in America and the present day and America's relation to
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our black population. It was absolutely disgusting. It was like he was trying to stir up racial
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hatred right there live to the point where a couple of the black students turned their backs
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on him, which was pretty extraordinary. And he does it all the time, right? I'll show you the
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soundbite as soon as you get it cued, but this is not unusual. Well, Democrats should be asking
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themselves, why does Trump each election do better, not worse, with minorities and immigrants?
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Not worse, better. Did better in 2020 than 2016 and seems to be doing better this time.
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That's a question Democrats really need to look in the mirror and ask themselves.
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And with the immigrants, I think I know the answer.
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Immigrants don't like it that the left seems to have this unrelenting negativity toward the country that these immigrants worked so hard to get here.
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And when Trump says shithole, the shithole, I think a lot of them are going, yeah, you're fucking right.
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on a raft or walked a thousand miles because i was living in paradise there are places that are
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shitty in this world and the immigrants know it and you know it's not corny or conservative
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to say that you should to acknowledge that you're lucky if you're living in this country at this
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moment in history yeah well it was a different message at morehouse here it is watch you start
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of college just as George Floyd was murdered and there was a reckoning on race, it's natural
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to wonder if democracy you hear about actually works for you. What is democracy? If black men
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are being killed in the street, what is democracy? You have to be 10 times better than anyone else
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to get a fair shot most of all what does it mean as we've heard before to be a black man who loves
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his country even if it doesn't love him back in equal measure that's my commitment to you
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to show you democracy democracy democracy is still the way if black men are being killed
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in the street to be bare witness. For me, that means to call out the poison of white supremacy,
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root out systemic racism. I stood up for George with George Floyd's family to help create a
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country. We don't need to have that talk with your son or grandson as they get pulled over.
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Oh, joy. That's his vision of life as a black man in America.
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It was almost like he was like, what did you just say?
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And it's not that there isn't still racism in this country, of course.
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And racist, just as there will always be criminals, there will always be racist.
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And we should always be mindful of that and do what we can to call it out.
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But it's a very different country than it was even 10 years ago.
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and and to be telling black students that you have to be 10 times better to get ahead
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that's anachronistic that's not the case i mean there are cases also i mean there's certainly
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they've done studies on this where the same person goes in for a job who's black and white
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and the white person does get it more often they prove that so that still exists it's also true
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where it's an advantage to be a person of color
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or anything other than white and male and straight.
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I mean, I'm over 60, white, male, and straight.
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This is not somebody that they're trying to hire.
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It's ridiculous to say that you love the country
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Right, but we're not living in the 1940s anymore.
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I'm saying, can we just live in the year we're living in?
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And when they do studies of young, under 30, polling, black versus white, the black folks are more optimistic.
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How do you sell yourself to a group of young black college graduates?
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Is it by appealing to grievance, making them feel disempowered and like the country hates them?
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Or is it something that would be empowering and uplifting and something great about them and America?
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It's also not. I mean, they know better than anybody the country they're actually living in.
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I mean, to to pretend that, as I think he was saying there, the talk, you know, which refers to being pulled over in cops.
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I mean, are there racist cops? Of course. There will always be racist.
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somebody's somewhere i mean if you do polling i think they've done it people are not accurate in
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their assessment of how many people get killed by the cops or shot by the cops i think i think
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about a thousand people no it's either shot or killed i think it's just shot i think about a
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thousand people get shot by the cops a year in this country now in a country of 340 million people
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a lot of whom are nuts and a lot of whom have guns is that a lot i don't know it was when that
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whole thing went down in 2019 i think it was it was 19 or 18 but i think it was 19 right right
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before george floyd i think it was 10 million uh arrests and of all of those in the country
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between 12 and 15 involved the shooting of unarmed black men not 12 and 1500 12 to 15
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depending on how you interpret unarmed some of the people who got shot by the cops had like
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come in commandeered a car and tried to run down the police and they'd be counted as unarmed but
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that's that's out of 10 million arrests 12 to 15 in the year preceding george flake but they the
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way he's talking right and by the way the talk didn't your parents have to talk with you doesn't
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every everyone especially a young man is told comply come on it's different if you're black
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And it has been historically very different if you're black.
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You can't really, really not contending that that's an equivalent.
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I think it's absurd to say that not everybody has the talk.
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We're all afraid when we get pulled over by cops.
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I'm not worried that I'm going to get shot in the way that I know some black men worry about.
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But it's absurd to suggest that anybody who resisted arrest, especially a man with a cop who knows the stakes are high when he pulls them over, isn't going to be in danger.
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OK, but I mean, if I got the talk, how old were you when you got the talk? I was 14 in 1970. It's preposterous to contend that in 1970, a white kid needed the talk as much as a black kid in this country.
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But also, here's something that he would never say at a place like this or anywhere, but there is a very big problem with young black men being shot and killed, but not by the cops.
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The number of young black men compared to young white men who were killed, it's something like 20 times.
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But again, they're not being killed by white supremacists.
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And we've completely written it off as a society.
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Well, to me, that's the most racist thing of all.
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And I've always said, where are the leaders of the community to talk about this?
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I mean, I feel like there's so many people in the black community who are looked up to for good reason.
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And I mean, a lot of the most famous celebrities and most admired are African-American.
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I mean, if they made a concerted effort to try to implore the end of this kind of behavior, would it have no effect at all?
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Because a lot of these shootings, I mean, some of it is the drug war.
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My thing about racism is always, could we just be practical?
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I mean, John McWhorter writes about it better than anybody.
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So much of this is performative that we see on the left.
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Of course, Thomas Sowell, none of whom has a statue of them.
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And again, if you just ended the drug war, some of the shooting is that.
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And some of it is just about really just nonsensical, you know, feuds and beefs and you insulted me on social media.
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And then obviously there's too many guns floating around.
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But it just seems like so tragic and unnecessary that this amount of killing is going on and that we just seem to, again, ignore it and not talk about it and pretend it's all the cops.
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We're going to pretend we're doing something because we're over here saying, you know, this is the way we want you to refer up.
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First of all, I want to ask you about Stormy Daniels.
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A few years ago, when she was first out with her story.
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And then to your credit, you pointed out on your show that her testimony in this trial changed dramatically from then to now.
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Do you think she's trying to paint herself as a fake Me Too victim now?
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I don't know if I would use the word dramatically, but it did shift.
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I mean, she definitely, she said in the trial, she said it again, kind of the same thing that she said on the show.
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But she also talked about the incident in ways that she certainly hadn't back when I was interviewing her, that we used all the buzzwords of the Me Too movement, of the power imbalance, and I was afraid to leave, and he blocked the door, and I was afraid.
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And then the thing that was so preposterous, I thought, was, you know, I blacked out.
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She lost feeling in her fingers and toes, Bill.
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Well, I mean, as I said at the time, you know, this is someone who's not unused to having sex with strange people, not strange that they're people, just that they're stranger to you because she's a porn star.
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So when you're a porn star, it's like, hi, meet Bob.
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So the idea that she would black out because this was such a traumatic experience was, to me, straining credulity.
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But, you know, I didn't think they should have gone ahead with this trial to begin with.
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I mean, first of all, it should have been an election interference trial brought by Merrick Garland.
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I tore him a new asshole a couple of weeks ago because all these trials are probably not going to come to anything.
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But it wound up being a trial about falsifying business records in state court.
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Yeah, because I think it was lost on jury selection.
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It's New York. It went 87 percent for Joe Biden. You think 12 jurors are going to I mean, because if I if I had to put my 12, all 12 jurors.
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Here's my thought. They should not vote to convict because he definitely he's put on a great case.
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The defense has put on a great case. Just they really haven't put on much of a case at all.
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But they've done enough to poke holes in Michael Cohen's testimony to win this case.
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But I think they lost it on jury selection in the same way O.J. was lost.
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let me ask you this counselor um michael cohen did serve prison time for doing this no not for
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doing this that's the problem he served prison time for lying about taxes and his taxi medallion
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scheme and then at the last minute they added on this this election interference or uh campaign
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finance violation and he said sure i did i did that too and but he that was never the bulk of
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the charges that was about to send him into prison with the raids on his house and all that that was
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an add-on at the end? That was not my interpretation of it. I thought he went to jail because he was
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the fixer in this case. They're trying to lead you to believe that, Bill. You trust Andy McCarthy
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of National Review, for example, a very straight shooter. He hates Trump like you do. He's been
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pointing this out. So there's many other legal... Anyway. I'll re-look at it. But in your defense,
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that's sort of how they're setting it up in this trial. And that is what the jury has heard too,
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what you just said. So that's one of the reasons why I believe they probably will conclude he did
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it they're going to say cohen he pleaded guilty to it weisselberg he's in jail why is he in jail
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and they've been led like with a with a trail of breadcrumbs i think to probably the wrong
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conclusion but i do think it'll be reversed and how will it affect the election if at all i don't
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think it will either don't you think it's all been baked in at this point absolutely i mean yeah
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look to most people it's just a sex case i did an editorial about this it's in the book also
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about i i saw this movie when it was called kill bill when they did it with bill clinton
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And people just do not like it when they go after presidents for their sex lives.
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And the idea that Trump would be fucking a porn star at a golf charity event while his wife was home nursing their newborn is something we just assumed he would be doing because, you know, again, you're the party of family values.
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So it is, as you say, baked into the cake.
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but you you don't really believe you can't tell me here's my honest reaction you can't tell me
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you think he didn't fuck stormy daniel let me tell you what i what i think that's gonna really
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leading up to the trial i said many times he did it let's face it we he denies it for the record
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and the legal purposes he denies it but when i heard her do her you know dramatic reenactment
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of it all now it's me too no thing no feeling in the fingers i blacked out i felt threatened
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because he was sitting on the bed when I came out of the bathroom and I couldn't get to the door.
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He was sitting on the bed. That's called leaving the hotel room. We've all done that. Like you
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just walk around the bed and you walk out the door. I started to doubt her story. I started to
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wonder whether this whole thing was some sort of a shakedown. If I had to put money on it,
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I'd say they had sex, but I don't believe anything past that.
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Well, that's silly. I mean, there's no good people.
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You're so pejorative. What do you mean? I've been watching this trial very carefully and
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I've been dismissive of your lack of knowledge, is my opinion, based on what I saw in 10 years of cross-examining people.
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I mean, it's like saying, you know, O.J. Simpson, were the police corrupt or did he kill his wife?
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I used to say, you know, the cops are so inept they could not frame a guilty man.
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The cops did a bad job and he killed his wife.
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And he fucked her at that golf tournament.
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Last but not least, Cohen and you have had some past interactions, right?
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This is back on the Birthergate controversy.
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Maureen Dowd wrote about it yesterday in the Times.
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Because he offered $5 million for Obama's birth certificate.
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And then you offered $5 million to see proof that he wasn't the child of an orangutan.
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But actually, what he offered, that was one detail I think they got wrong.
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The $5 million he had offered was for Obama to produce his college records.
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Because, you know, a black guy in college, that's kind of fishy, huh?
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So I thought I would offer him $5 million if he could prove.
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When we showed the picture, he does look exactly like that orangutan.
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If you saw the picture, you know what I'm talking about.
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And then they came to court and produced the birth certificate to prove that he was actually not the son of an orangutan.
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The definition of a species is you can't have sex with the feminine.
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I mean, jaguars and tigers, they look kind of alike, but they don't fuck each other.
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Any last thoughts on what the solutions are to that?
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We find a way past the harsh partisan bullshit?
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I mean, I don't know. I mean, like I say, I think the rubber hits the road next January because if he wins, he wins. He's never going to give up power. You can't really believe that.
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But he didn't last time. You think in 2028 he's going to say, well, two terms, that's what the Constitution says. I'm gone. Of course not. He's going to stay on as long as he can. He'll make up some excuse. He doesn't care.
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He's never read the Constitution. He doesn't care what's in it. It's only about power and who wins and he will never leave.
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He's already said many times, I think we deserve a third term because, you know, we were cheated out of the one that he's not serving right now.
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So he will never give up power. So there's the end of America as we know it.
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And if Biden wins again, he will. I mean, this country will fall apart because his his rabble won't accept it and he won't accept it.
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I mean, there's no solution except cholesterol.
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all and and watching real time right and buying this book it's called it's actually very the
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funniest book ever i think and uh lots of people have said the same thing so i know it sounds like
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you know because we're tussling that it's all serious but it's actually very funny it is very
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funny and uh i hope people enjoy it and look i i appreciate you going toe to toe because i think
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that's what people have to do and it sometimes does get to a point where you get exasperated
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with each other. But, you know, as I say at the end, America is a family. And the definition of
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a family is understanding that, you know, you're with people who you may not like, but it doesn't
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come to violence. Yeah. Well, I have to say, Bill, you've always been very gracious to me.
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I'm a fan. I mean, you're super smart. You know, what we all have to get over is
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talking with someone who you can be like, oh, I'm so in agreement on this,
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and this, and this, and this, and on this one, I think they're insane.
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Like, I love him, except he hates Trump, so I have to hate him.
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That's how the world goes forward, just accepting.
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But I would hope when Trump doesn't relinquish power in this country.
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And when this country does not resemble the one that we've grown up in,
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I would hope that you would be able to acknowledge that.
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And if he does relinquish power or doesn't try to—
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Then I will absolutely on my show say, I was wrong and she was right.
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Either way, I'll have you back and you can take a victory lap.
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Or you have me back and I'll take a victory lap.
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Don't forget, it's called What This Comedian Said.