The Megyn Kelly Show - March 09, 2026


Another 60 Minutes Editing Controversy, NYC Terror Attack, and Obama and Kamala Politicize Funeral, with Stu Burguiere | Ep. 1268


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A man threw an IED at cops in New York City, and the NYPD is investigating it as an act of terrorism. Plus, Iran strikes back at the U.S. in a new Middle Eastern conflict, and more.

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00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:00:12.320 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:00:15.360 We have got a whole lot of news to bring to you today.
00:00:18.160 I'm in a remote location again because my kids are on spring break, but I am not.
00:00:23.840 There's a lot happening in this world, and so we decided to keep the plugs into our system
00:00:29.540 and keep the news being brought to you guys.
00:00:32.700 Oil has surged over $100 a barrel amid the fallout from this Iranian war.
00:00:37.920 We're going to tell you what that could mean for you.
00:00:40.480 It's not good.
00:00:41.940 President Trump doesn't seem concerned about it.
00:00:45.120 I'm sure he is watching it, but he thinks, you know, short term we're going to be able to deal with this,
00:00:50.400 which sounds somewhat reassuring, but, you know, it's tough because gas prices have already gone up
00:00:55.620 and over $100 a barrel is no bueno.
00:00:57.680 You know, an improvised explosive device thrown at a protest.
00:01:01.580 Did you see this near the mayor's home in New York City?
00:01:03.900 And how he is restyling this into something about white supremacy is very bizarre.
00:01:09.800 This is, as his own police commissioner is investigating this, as an act of terrorism.
00:01:14.480 The guy was yelling Allahu Akbar as he threw an IED at cops, but somehow this is an act of white supremacy
00:01:24.200 because the protesters there were saying they didn't want Islam taking over New York,
00:01:29.160 but they weren't the ones who threw the bomb.
00:01:32.180 You see, the bomb was being thrown at them and at cops,
00:01:35.360 something the mayor weirdly omitted from his tweet, which took over 24 hours, responding to the incident.
00:01:42.640 This is what we're dealing with in New York now.
00:01:44.840 But we have got to begin this hour with what happened on 60 Minutes last night,
00:01:50.180 who just cannot seem to help themselves making deceptive edits.
00:01:55.260 All right?
00:01:55.800 Yesterday, 60 Minutes aired Major Garrett, my old pal from Fox News.
00:02:01.100 This does not appear to have been his sin, though I don't know whether he signed off on this or not.
00:02:06.740 This would have been an editorial call by the network, but they aired his interview with Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
00:02:14.080 about what's happening in Iran.
00:02:16.320 Here is part, okay, about, this is what actually aired, right?
00:02:21.180 About Israel possibly dragging the United States into war.
00:02:27.280 This is what was presented to the CBS audience.
00:02:30.220 Some normally enthusiastic supporters of the president have criticized him,
00:02:35.300 suggesting Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu pulled the U.S. into a war that,
00:02:41.040 to their minds, did not put American interests first.
00:02:44.980 Do you want to address that criticism?
00:02:46.740 All I know is I'm in the room every day and I see how President Trump operates and what he's putting first,
00:02:51.960 and it's America, Americans, and American interests.
00:02:54.240 Okay, so there you see Pete Hegseth defending Bibi Netanyahu charges about Israel's interference in the war.
00:03:04.260 Well, thanks to President Trump's complaint about 60 Minutes edits of Kamala Harris's interview and how deceptive they were,
00:03:10.900 CBS now posts the unedited interviews of newsmakers as well.
00:03:15.320 And let me tell you, the question asked was very different.
00:03:18.460 That was not the question that Major Garrett asked.
00:03:20.700 He did not ask anything about Bibi Netanyahu or Israel, nor did then Pete go on to rehabilitate anything in response to Israel.
00:03:29.900 All right, we took a look at the Hegseth interview in full.
00:03:32.200 It's notable how the Q&A you saw never mentioned Israel at all.
00:03:37.800 Only someone at CBS tried to go back and change the question to make it about Israel,
00:03:44.920 such that the answer would then rehabilitate Israel, which isn't what actually happened.
00:03:51.720 Look at this.
00:03:52.540 This is the actual Q&A as it unfolded.
00:03:55.320 You mentioned America First.
00:03:57.520 Some who identify with that movement, Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene,
00:04:03.400 have said from their perspective this isn't an America First campaign.
00:04:07.180 Do you want to address that criticism?
00:04:08.800 All I know is I'm in the room every day, and I see how President Trump operates and what he's putting first,
00:04:14.160 and it's America, Americans, and American interests at every level.
00:04:17.800 How long should our bases be tolerating thousands of short-range ballistic missiles
00:04:21.080 and one-way attack drones pointing at our bases and our people?
00:04:23.920 After 47 years of Americans being targeted and killed,
00:04:27.660 the men I served with in combat in Iraq coming home with no arms and no legs,
00:04:32.940 targeted by Iranian EFPs, thousands of Americans killed.
00:04:37.020 Beirut, you want to go back? We can go back to how long.
00:04:39.740 I mean, the regime itself is premised on death to America.
00:04:43.360 So 47 years, thousands of missiles, and an unrelenting pursuit of nuclear ambitions.
00:04:48.680 I mean, President Trump's right.
00:04:49.760 When he says we obliterated their nuclear program, he's right. 1.00
00:04:52.200 We did.
00:04:52.620 We dropped those bombs exactly where they needed to be and set them back.
00:04:56.180 But that doesn't mean they've stopped their pursuit.
00:04:59.100 It doesn't mean in the back of their mind they're thinking,
00:05:00.560 well, maybe we'll wait it out and keep...
00:05:02.200 They've miscalculated the resolve of President Trump.
00:05:06.580 Ask Nicholas Maduro about that.
00:05:09.380 Ask, you know, the Houthis about that.
00:05:11.780 Look at the southern border.
00:05:13.160 Look at the cartels and drug boats.
00:05:15.200 When President Trump says he'll take care of something, he's going to take care of it.
00:05:18.380 There was nothing, nothing about Netanyahu and nothing about Israel in the Q or the A.
00:05:26.420 Only CBS decided to style it in that fashion.
00:05:29.660 But you know what?
00:05:30.900 Here's the thing. 0.98
00:05:32.200 They do not give a shit about misleading you over at CBS. 0.98
00:05:36.400 The old CBS or the new CBS, which has a brand new agenda. 0.99
00:05:40.300 The left will tell you that it's pro-MAGA.
00:05:42.160 It's not pro-MAGA.
00:05:43.460 Trust me.
00:05:44.180 Watch two minutes of the evening news or the morning news.
00:05:47.100 It is not pro-MAGA at all, but it is pro-Israel.
00:05:51.480 Barry Weiss has finally achieved her dream of running a news network that will be entirely
00:05:56.200 pro-Israel.
00:05:57.200 This is not just me saying this.
00:05:58.740 Everybody all over the internet who's been watching CBS is noting how unfair their coverage
00:06:03.720 is on this.
00:06:04.200 It is not fair and balanced at all.
00:06:07.660 So not only did CBS reframe the whole thing unfairly to be about Bibi Netanyahu, which was
00:06:15.400 not in Major's question and was not in Pete's answer.
00:06:18.460 He was not answering a question about Israel.
00:06:20.320 But they also then jumped two and a half minutes in the interview after Hegseth's answer to
00:06:26.940 then a question about Netanyahu providing intel to the U.S. in the war.
00:06:31.180 But that moment, an example of inserting Israel into a Q&A that never mentioned it in the first
00:06:37.220 place.
00:06:37.940 Okay.
00:06:38.180 So here again, they are trying to shove Israel into the debate and Israel's in the debate, 0.80
00:06:43.760 but you can't make a question that wasn't about it, about it later with an anchor track.
00:06:50.600 That's what they did.
00:06:51.560 They took Major's question out and they relayed an anchor track to make it about Netanyahu
00:06:58.600 and Israel so that Pete's answer would be rehabilitative of that. 1.00
00:07:02.780 What kind of fucking bullshit is this? 1.00
00:07:05.620 Honestly, like forget, obviously, we've got a lot of questions about this war. 1.00
00:07:09.520 As I made clear last week, we're still supporters of President Trump entirely.
00:07:14.480 Doesn't mean you have to agree with every decision the man makes.
00:07:16.560 And we support our troops and we support success in this mission now that it has been started.
00:07:22.380 But we have a lot of questions about this war.
00:07:25.740 Some are about Israel's role, obviously.
00:07:28.260 Some are about gas prices, as we mentioned a minute ago.
00:07:30.760 Many are about whether this is good for the American people.
00:07:33.700 Whether, as we mentioned on this show, and we voiced our objections last Monday,
00:07:37.440 we're now subjecting the homeland to more potential terrorism attacks.
00:07:40.740 Remember, that was one of the main things I said, that I was very worried,
00:07:44.920 having been at Fox News for 20 years in the war on terror,
00:07:48.140 that we were now going to start to see more domestic terror attacks,
00:07:50.980 which we had tamped down, which we'd been doing rather well on.
00:07:54.280 That was one of my main things.
00:07:55.840 MTG was on the show.
00:07:57.400 Here is what she said her concerns were, okay?
00:08:01.380 Among other things, she mentioned Israel, so did I.
00:08:04.420 But here is her list of what she was concerned about in SOT 2.
00:08:08.880 Most Americans are completely against this war because, like you said,
00:08:14.260 the president has made no case for it.
00:08:16.800 We live our ordinary lives, and we don't feel threatened by Iran. 1.00
00:08:20.900 We don't walk around thinking that in any moment an Iranian ballistic missile
00:08:25.260 is going to land on our head.
00:08:26.900 We don't.
00:08:27.640 Here's what Americans, and I want to read off this list.
00:08:30.120 This is what Americans are focused on.
00:08:32.640 72% of Americans can't afford health insurance.
00:08:36.100 58% of Americans can't afford car insurance.
00:08:40.000 67% of Americans live paycheck to paycheck.
00:08:43.760 31% of Americans can't afford their back taxes.
00:08:47.620 50% of Americans are in credit card debt, massive credit card debt.
00:08:53.640 That's where we are in America.
00:08:55.960 Okay, so Major Garrett, who is a good reporter,
00:08:59.500 took criticisms like mine, like hers, and others,
00:09:02.900 and asked the question,
00:09:03.960 you mentioned America First.
00:09:05.740 Some who identify with that movement,
00:09:07.620 Megyn Kelly, Tucker Carlson, Kenneth Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene,
00:09:10.040 have said from their perspective,
00:09:11.840 this isn't an American First campaign.
00:09:15.180 America First campaign.
00:09:16.400 Do you want to address that criticism?
00:09:19.520 Fair question.
00:09:20.260 Totally fair question.
00:09:22.220 Major does his homework.
00:09:23.440 Trust me.
00:09:24.100 I know him very well.
00:09:25.320 We officed together for two years
00:09:27.520 and have been through a lot together.
00:09:29.480 And they changed that question with a voiceover
00:09:34.320 to there are varying versions of how and why the war started when it did.
00:09:39.640 Some normally enthusiastic supporters of the president have criticized him,
00:09:43.320 suggesting Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu pulled the U.S. into a war
00:09:47.740 that to their minds did not put American interests first.
00:09:51.080 That is a different question.
00:09:52.840 I also believe that,
00:09:55.040 as do I think the other people on your list.
00:09:57.100 But that is a very different question
00:09:59.360 than why do we think this war is not America First?
00:10:04.420 And CBS manipulated the Q&A
00:10:07.360 in order to rehabilitate Netanyahu
00:10:10.220 in a way that Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
00:10:13.260 was not doing in that answer.
00:10:15.700 Do you understand? 0.98
00:10:16.620 This is ridiculous. 0.95
00:10:18.340 It's welcome to the news, CBS. 0.96
00:10:20.260 Same as the old CBS.
00:10:22.120 Deceptive editing,
00:10:23.920 deceptive manipulations
00:10:25.240 meant to push their own agenda.
00:10:28.280 There's a lot to go over today.
00:10:30.580 This New York City terror attack being reframed as white supremacy is yet another.
00:10:35.320 What happened now?
00:10:36.360 Jesse Jackson's son
00:10:37.520 is lashing out
00:10:39.480 at the top Democrats,
00:10:41.000 President Obama,
00:10:42.100 President Bill Clinton,
00:10:42.840 President Biden,
00:10:43.760 for using his dad's memorial
00:10:45.640 to try to rip on Trump.
00:10:48.820 Jesse Jackson's son is pissed.
00:10:50.480 Who could blame him?
00:10:51.460 If you guys remember on AM Update after the Reverend Jackson died,
00:10:55.000 I made a personal comment on there
00:10:56.880 about how he was always very good to yours truly.
00:10:59.920 We saw him plenty of times over the Fox News room,
00:11:03.440 you know, tenure.
00:11:04.900 And he was always so cordial,
00:11:06.860 so kind.
00:11:07.840 He knew he was at Fox.
00:11:09.160 He knew I was with Fox.
00:11:10.380 Never anything but kind,
00:11:13.140 supportive,
00:11:14.380 inquiring about me,
00:11:15.680 my family,
00:11:16.100 my wellness,
00:11:16.580 all that.
00:11:17.640 And I believe the son when he says
00:11:19.120 they did not want to make his funeral a partisan thing.
00:11:22.240 In any event,
00:11:22.720 we'll get to all of that.
00:11:23.620 Let me bring in our guest.
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00:12:42.460 Stu, welcome back.
00:12:43.720 Who's Dave?
00:12:44.780 Ah, Dave Landau.
00:12:46.040 He's a comedian.
00:12:47.060 I realized America is a little bit too much
00:12:49.180 for me to do by myself,
00:12:50.660 so we're bringing Dave on to help.
00:12:52.660 It's going to be a lot of fun.
00:12:53.940 Awesome.
00:12:55.060 Okay. 0.99
00:12:55.780 Can you believe this 60 minutes bullshit? 1.00
00:12:58.380 You get it, right? 1.00
00:12:59.780 I had to work extra hard at it,
00:13:01.280 but you get the sin, yes?
00:13:02.280 Yes, I follow it along as I think.
00:13:05.720 You know, it's interesting
00:13:06.680 because I think the question asked,
00:13:09.760 obviously one of your criticisms might be that,
00:13:11.940 but it's also they grouped you with people
00:13:14.000 who have, I would say,
00:13:15.140 a very wide array of complaints,
00:13:17.980 some of them smart,
00:13:19.460 some of them not so smart.
00:13:20.940 And it's funny, like they just,
00:13:22.800 that's an interesting way to ask that question,
00:13:26.240 especially when you could have asked it directly, right?
00:13:28.840 Those are interesting conversations.
00:13:30.720 People have opinions on them.
00:13:31.880 I think a lot of people
00:13:33.000 are very focused on that right now.
00:13:34.580 And for you to be able to,
00:13:36.740 for someone like Pete to be able to answer that,
00:13:39.200 I mean, I think the tone of it is true, right?
00:13:42.100 Like at the end of the day,
00:13:43.640 we have a commander in chief
00:13:44.700 and he makes the decisions.
00:13:45.980 Donald Trump, not exactly shy on his opinions.
00:13:48.560 I don't think he gets bullied around all that much.
00:13:52.280 But to try to hide that in some separate question
00:13:57.280 where it could have easily been just asked directly.
00:14:01.120 I will say one of the things we're finding out about this
00:14:03.860 and one of the, I think the efforts
00:14:05.980 that Donald Trump was trying to achieve
00:14:07.660 when he went after CBS the first time
00:14:09.700 is for us to be able to know this.
00:14:12.020 I mean, this is a new development, Megan.
00:14:13.500 Like, you know, up until recently,
00:14:15.480 you would have just been guessing, right?
00:14:16.960 You would have saying, what was that question?
00:14:18.180 What would we have known?
00:14:19.280 And we not would have had that information at all.
00:14:21.400 So at least we've stepped forward
00:14:22.720 a little bit in that front.
00:14:23.660 We can now look at the full interviews.
00:14:26.380 I think that's a positive,
00:14:28.700 but I don't understand the approach.
00:14:30.320 I mean, just ask the question directly
00:14:32.240 and let people judge for themselves.
00:14:35.260 I mean, America first is many things.
00:14:37.860 It's many things, but I mean,
00:14:39.620 MTG is basically saying she's America only.
00:14:42.600 That's how she would phrase her ideology.
00:14:45.200 And the original question by Major got it
00:14:47.240 and understood it and captured
00:14:49.920 that it was a broader thing, I think,
00:14:51.260 by sticking to this isn't America first principles,
00:14:53.640 nothing about Netanyahu.
00:14:54.840 That's also on the table.
00:14:55.820 It's a separate question
00:14:56.840 and it would be a separate answer.
00:14:59.460 That's not how they presented it.
00:15:01.400 They presented the Secretary of War's defense
00:15:05.080 to the question, which by the way, was so shortened.
00:15:08.100 I realize in 60 Minutes and every network news,
00:15:10.760 they shorten an answer,
00:15:11.880 but his longer answer was a very good answer.
00:15:14.300 You know, you may find it persuasive
00:15:15.340 as a justification for the war or you may not,
00:15:17.940 but it at least was honest about the reasons were there.
00:15:21.140 You know, he mentioned for 47 years,
00:15:22.540 they've been bombing us.
00:15:23.300 He mentioned guys who've lost limbs in the Iraq war
00:15:26.340 thanks to Iranian IEDs. 1.00
00:15:29.220 Like, okay, that's fine.
00:15:30.780 That actually has persuaded millions of Americans
00:15:33.560 and the majority of Republicans
00:15:34.720 that what we're doing over there right now
00:15:36.820 is just and supported and warranted.
00:15:41.460 But that's not what the question was.
00:15:44.760 That's the problem.
00:15:45.480 You cannot take a question that wasn't asked
00:15:49.560 about Bibi Netanyahu
00:15:51.320 and insert an answer that was responsive
00:15:54.520 to America First principles. 0.99
00:15:56.520 It's fucking unethical. 0.99
00:15:58.840 Major knows that. 0.99
00:16:00.100 CBS knows that.
00:16:01.540 Barry Weiss knows that.
00:16:03.440 So what that leads me to conclude
00:16:05.740 is she's pushing an agenda.
00:16:08.320 And we do know she's heavily involved
00:16:09.920 in these 60 Minutes review sessions.
00:16:11.960 We learned that when she spiked the report on Seacott 0.97
00:16:15.460 and there was a meltdown within 60.
00:16:17.800 This is not cool.
00:16:19.440 And they ought to correct the record
00:16:20.740 because that is not what he responded to.
00:16:24.260 It's infuriating because right now,
00:16:26.500 I don't know about you, Stu,
00:16:27.840 but like the media is impossible at the moment.
00:16:31.740 You've got the pro-Trump outlets
00:16:33.440 that are like Fox
00:16:35.060 that are completely running cover
00:16:36.360 on everything around this war,
00:16:37.800 cheerleading it entirely.
00:16:38.860 Then you've got like the New York Times
00:16:41.660 and other outlets that hate Trump,
00:16:43.640 that see everything in the least favorable light
00:16:46.080 to the president.
00:16:47.260 And even I, as a critic of the war,
00:16:50.020 I'm not so critical
00:16:51.460 that I would rely on the New York Times, right?
00:16:53.440 Like I'll look at them,
00:16:55.260 I'll look at everybody,
00:16:56.240 but it's very hard to find information
00:16:58.640 that you really can trust, right?
00:17:00.740 Because our president definitely tries
00:17:03.040 to manipulate the media
00:17:04.040 like every other president we've had.
00:17:06.240 And the media is trying to manipulate its audiences
00:17:10.720 like a full bore right now on all fronts.
00:17:13.620 So it's been a challenge getting information.
00:17:17.140 Yeah, the media is in a really difficult position right now.
00:17:20.080 I mean, they've been talking to us
00:17:21.440 for a very long time
00:17:22.900 about how we have to be more involved
00:17:24.840 in something like Ukraine, for example.
00:17:28.660 And now, because President Trump
00:17:31.340 wants to be involved with Iran,
00:17:33.540 they kind of have to take the opposite position
00:17:35.540 and say we shouldn't be involved in these conflicts.
00:17:38.520 I mean, it is a complicated world.
00:17:40.920 Have some sympathy for them, Megan.
00:17:42.440 This is really hard to figure out on a day-to-day basis.
00:17:45.640 You know, you have to oppose Trump,
00:17:47.400 but you have to, I mean,
00:17:48.380 this is just what they're in the middle of.
00:17:50.620 And I think, you know, President Trump,
00:17:52.000 like I think you hit on something there,
00:17:54.620 which is the debate.
00:17:55.840 And I think it's an interesting question here
00:18:00.000 because it's much broader than, you know,
00:18:01.620 how you feel about Israel.
00:18:03.140 You know, like you might think Israel
00:18:04.320 is the greatest country on earth
00:18:05.260 and they're totally justified.
00:18:06.280 I think, you know, if I was living in Israel
00:18:08.560 and I was an Israeli talk show host,
00:18:10.440 I would be pretty convinced
00:18:11.760 that Iran was a real threat to me. 1.00
00:18:13.560 And taking out someone like the Ayatollah 1.00
00:18:15.840 would, I think, be pretty justified.
00:18:18.060 We certainly, I think, have an argument
00:18:20.080 as Pete was making there as well.
00:18:22.720 But, you know, the line here,
00:18:23.980 and this is something that
00:18:24.660 I don't think I would have,
00:18:26.640 I don't think it's a place
00:18:27.280 I would have been 20 or 30 years ago
00:18:28.900 because, you know,
00:18:31.700 going through the Iraq situation
00:18:33.360 had me rethinking things
00:18:36.040 a little bit on this front
00:18:37.080 and sort of trying to set out
00:18:39.260 that dynamic of justification
00:18:41.700 versus necessity, right?
00:18:43.720 Like, I think we have a really good argument
00:18:46.160 that taking on Iran is justified. 1.00
00:18:51.220 You know, what Pete's saying was true.
00:18:52.880 Like, they really, outside of our direct conflict.
00:18:55.040 There's scores to be settled.
00:18:57.120 There are.
00:18:57.780 I mean, there's heavy reporting
00:18:59.980 on, you know, the potential
00:19:01.560 of them trying to take out
00:19:03.400 multiple officials here in the United States,
00:19:05.060 including Donald Trump and John Bolton,
00:19:06.660 two people who can't stand each other these days.
00:19:09.080 You go back and you look at, of course,
00:19:11.540 I mean, I did deep research.
00:19:12.760 I want you to know,
00:19:13.440 I went back and watched Argo
00:19:14.600 with Ben Affleck, Megan.
00:19:17.420 Yes, I did.
00:19:19.040 And in that movie,
00:19:19.880 that Hollywood wanted you
00:19:20.720 to make sure you understood
00:19:21.700 that Iran was bad, 1.00
00:19:23.920 so they were on that side.
00:19:24.860 I don't know.
00:19:25.260 I go back and forth on this.
00:19:26.400 By the way, freaking great movie.
00:19:28.200 It's a great movie.
00:19:28.980 It is a great movie.
00:19:29.620 No matter what.
00:19:30.220 It is a great movie.
00:19:31.440 Ben Affleck is incredibly irritating,
00:19:32.800 but that was a great movie.
00:19:34.100 It really is.
00:19:35.340 But you remember,
00:19:36.160 this is a,
00:19:36.760 there's a long history.
00:19:37.940 And what's interesting
00:19:39.000 about that history, 1979,
00:19:41.000 I mean, Donald Trump's,
00:19:42.060 I think, 33 years old
00:19:43.480 when this all goes down
00:19:44.560 somewhere in that area.
00:19:46.260 Like this is,
00:19:46.960 as he's becoming an adult
00:19:49.280 and building his business empire,
00:19:50.980 we're kind of just starting
00:19:52.240 to become aware of him
00:19:53.720 as a national figure.
00:19:56.220 This is the story, right?
00:19:58.440 This is the story at that time.
00:20:00.640 And Iran has a long history 0.94
00:20:02.580 of murdering Americans. 0.70
00:20:04.200 This is not just a thing.
00:20:05.440 This is not like,
00:20:06.160 oh gosh, this is some country.
00:20:07.940 This is a country that,
00:20:09.040 outside of our direct wars
00:20:10.780 that we've been in,
00:20:11.800 has killed more Americans 0.87
00:20:12.900 than any other nation,
00:20:14.300 any other nation state.
00:20:15.800 They did this during your war.
00:20:16.240 They're always on the other side.
00:20:17.780 Always.
00:20:18.200 Yes, exactly.
00:20:18.860 This is a,
00:20:19.360 so, you know,
00:20:19.880 we have real justification,
00:20:21.460 I think,
00:20:21.800 to have a massive problem
00:20:22.900 with this country.
00:20:23.640 The question though,
00:20:24.600 and I think this is where
00:20:25.520 I got with Iraq 1.00
00:20:26.240 when we were in Iraq initially.
00:20:28.680 I mean, they,
00:20:29.280 people forget,
00:20:29.920 they were firing at our jets
00:20:31.820 on like a daily basis
00:20:33.180 before that war started.
00:20:35.500 And that is a justification,
00:20:37.520 absolutely,
00:20:38.320 for us to be able
00:20:39.320 to go to war.
00:20:40.420 The question though,
00:20:41.180 is it a necessity
00:20:42.060 at that time?
00:20:43.260 Can you find,
00:20:45.660 I think it was an opportunity.
00:20:47.000 The question was,
00:20:47.820 is it a necessity with Iran? 0.83
00:20:49.620 And an opportunity,
00:20:50.660 I have no love
00:20:51.280 for the Iranian regime.
00:20:52.200 I am happy the Ayatollah
00:20:53.160 is not there anymore.
00:20:54.140 I really hope this turns out
00:20:55.380 really well.
00:20:56.480 But if we go to
00:20:58.340 an expanded situation
00:21:00.100 where this lasts
00:21:01.000 for a long time,
00:21:02.740 you know,
00:21:03.000 questions wind up being,
00:21:04.940 becoming problems quickly.
00:21:06.340 And it's hard
00:21:07.320 to back out of that stuff.
00:21:08.500 And that is the sort of thing,
00:21:10.240 I think a lot of Trump supporters
00:21:11.620 believe we wouldn't
00:21:13.100 get involved in.
00:21:14.540 And perhaps we're not,
00:21:15.500 you know,
00:21:15.720 we're only a week or so
00:21:16.960 into this.
00:21:17.560 Perhaps this is gonna,
00:21:18.760 you know,
00:21:19.040 he's got a more limited
00:21:20.000 effort in mind.
00:21:21.360 But it's hard to know.
00:21:23.160 And I think that's part
00:21:23.920 of your criticism,
00:21:25.320 some that I would have
00:21:26.120 of the president's approach
00:21:27.000 to this is,
00:21:27.440 I would love to know
00:21:28.040 a little bit more.
00:21:28.620 I'd love to have a little bit
00:21:29.420 more explanation wise.
00:21:30.520 I know he can't lay out
00:21:31.380 the entire battle plan,
00:21:32.920 but it is important
00:21:33.680 for the American people
00:21:34.360 to understand
00:21:35.280 if this is an important,
00:21:36.680 if it is a necessity
00:21:37.500 and not just a justified conflict.
00:21:40.980 I'd like to be,
00:21:41.800 you know,
00:21:42.080 a little more information
00:21:42.920 to push us over that line.
00:21:44.500 Well, I mean,
00:21:44.780 you look back at what happened
00:21:45.640 before the Iraq war
00:21:46.540 and we had months
00:21:47.240 of debate on it.
00:21:48.160 We had tons of debate
00:21:49.340 on that,
00:21:50.100 on whether we should go
00:21:50.920 in Afghanistan too.
00:21:52.740 And the people
00:21:54.380 at least got a fair vetting.
00:21:55.600 It wound up having
00:21:56.820 majority support
00:21:57.700 in the U.S. Congress,
00:21:59.300 the Iraq war.
00:21:59.960 The Iraq war did, 0.97
00:22:01.860 which is kind of crazy
00:22:02.740 to think back on,
00:22:03.940 which was very wrong
00:22:04.840 and we should not
00:22:05.460 have done the Iraq war.
00:22:06.340 I mean,
00:22:06.780 I think virtually everyone
00:22:08.300 understands that now.
00:22:09.800 WMD was a lie.
00:22:10.980 They did not exist.
00:22:12.260 Whatever.
00:22:12.620 It was an intel failure
00:22:13.520 at a minimum.
00:22:15.500 And so,
00:22:16.520 but we did debate it
00:22:17.760 and there were two sides
00:22:19.160 and they're actually the 0.99
00:22:20.340 this is bullshit side 0.99
00:22:21.520 was there. 1.00
00:22:22.220 They were represented.
00:22:22.960 They were overruled.
00:22:23.720 They weren't considered persuasive.
00:22:25.240 But on this,
00:22:25.900 we just haven't had
00:22:26.600 the debate at all
00:22:27.360 and now we've launched
00:22:29.300 something that
00:22:29.840 I don't know
00:22:31.060 where it's going.
00:22:31.840 I mean,
00:22:32.140 many people think
00:22:33.340 this is the beginning
00:22:33.860 of World War III.
00:22:34.960 I'm not there yet.
00:22:35.780 But I see terror warnings
00:22:37.980 coming across the transom
00:22:39.060 just as we went to air.
00:22:40.720 This just hits, Stu.
00:22:42.400 This is via ABC News.
00:22:45.220 Stand by.
00:22:47.700 Okay.
00:22:48.260 The headline is,
00:22:49.080 The U.S. has intercepted
00:22:50.840 encrypted communications
00:22:52.100 believed to have originated
00:22:53.280 in Iran
00:22:54.000 that may serve
00:22:55.120 as an operational trigger,
00:22:56.960 that's in quotes,
00:22:58.260 for, quote,
00:22:58.840 sleeper assets
00:22:59.740 outside of Iran,
00:23:01.140 according to a federal
00:23:01.840 government alert
00:23:02.820 sent to law enforcement
00:23:04.280 agencies.
00:23:04.820 It goes on to say,
00:23:06.020 The intercepted transmission
00:23:07.540 was encoded
00:23:08.260 and appeared to be destined
00:23:09.720 for, quote,
00:23:10.300 clandestine recipients
00:23:11.660 who possess
00:23:12.700 the encryption key,
00:23:13.780 the kind of message
00:23:14.400 intended to impart
00:23:15.180 instructions to covert
00:23:16.220 operatives or sleeper assets
00:23:17.620 without the use
00:23:18.660 of the internet
00:23:19.120 or cellular networks.
00:23:21.180 It's possible
00:23:21.940 the transmissions
00:23:22.520 could be intended
00:23:23.160 to activate
00:23:23.760 or provide instructions
00:23:25.000 to pre-positioned
00:23:26.080 sleeper assets
00:23:26.660 operating outside
00:23:27.520 of the originating country,
00:23:28.700 said the alert.
00:23:30.980 We were not going
00:23:31.960 to get that.
00:23:32.620 That was not happening
00:23:33.720 nine days ago.
00:23:35.460 That is obviously
00:23:36.520 a response
00:23:37.320 to what we've done
00:23:39.040 with Israel
00:23:40.200 in Iran.
00:23:41.860 And I realize
00:23:42.440 many people think
00:23:43.000 worth it,
00:23:43.480 worth it,
00:23:43.780 worth it.
00:23:44.020 I don't happen
00:23:44.380 to be one of them.
00:23:45.120 I don't want
00:23:45.880 to have to deal
00:23:46.360 with the United States
00:23:47.820 becoming Israel 0.85
00:23:48.800 where we have to worry
00:23:50.180 about getting blown up
00:23:51.180 at your random cafe
00:23:52.660 or our kids have to worry
00:23:54.040 about walking
00:23:54.520 to school safely.
00:23:55.400 That wasn't us
00:23:56.480 10 days ago.
00:23:57.960 And this isn't
00:23:58.740 the only one.
00:23:59.360 You know,
00:23:59.520 we saw that shooting
00:24:00.180 down in Austin, Texas
00:24:01.140 by that guy 0.84
00:24:02.260 who seemed like a loon
00:24:03.260 but he was wearing 0.51
00:24:03.960 the Allah sweatshirt
00:24:07.740 and the Iranian flag
00:24:09.020 on his person.
00:24:09.700 Now this weekend
00:24:11.820 we see this protest
00:24:14.040 outside of Mamdani's mansion,
00:24:16.020 the mayor's mansion
00:24:16.680 in New York
00:24:17.240 with two people
00:24:18.740 whose parents
00:24:20.000 are naturalized
00:24:20.680 U.S. citizens
00:24:21.280 throwing an IED
00:24:22.320 at cops
00:24:24.260 because the protesters
00:24:25.880 there were protesting
00:24:27.000 against New York
00:24:28.080 becoming more radically Muslim
00:24:29.920 and these obviously
00:24:31.280 were people sympathetic
00:24:32.180 toward the other side
00:24:33.320 which was also represented
00:24:34.340 at the counter protest.
00:24:35.300 In any event,
00:24:36.360 you and I both see
00:24:37.720 what's happening here.
00:24:38.460 There is a powder keg
00:24:40.480 that has been placed,
00:24:42.480 it's been sort of drizzled
00:24:44.420 all over certain pockets
00:24:46.040 of the United States
00:24:46.740 in the wake
00:24:47.160 of our military action
00:24:49.300 in Iran
00:24:50.080 and I'm just totally against it.
00:24:52.440 I am not in favor
00:24:53.600 of using the military
00:24:54.560 in a way that's not defensive.
00:24:55.920 This didn't feel defensive
00:24:56.820 to me
00:24:57.180 but the point is simply
00:24:58.780 now we're going to have
00:24:59.840 to deal with it
00:25:00.460 and now we're going to see
00:25:01.880 more and more
00:25:02.520 of these homegrown
00:25:03.720 domestic terror attacks
00:25:05.120 and yet we're still
00:25:06.400 being told by some
00:25:07.200 that to even discuss it
00:25:08.080 is considered unpatriotic.
00:25:10.960 Yeah, I mean it is
00:25:11.940 it's something
00:25:12.480 you have to factor in
00:25:13.560 and you know,
00:25:14.720 look, if the president
00:25:15.640 wasn't doing that
00:25:16.500 he's not doing his job, right?
00:25:17.680 He has to be able to do that
00:25:18.900 and I'm sure he's taken
00:25:19.880 this into consideration.
00:25:21.300 He's, you know,
00:25:22.300 in his public speaking
00:25:23.640 he's talked about
00:25:24.440 the possibility
00:25:25.400 of casualties.
00:25:26.480 This is not
00:25:26.960 this is not some game
00:25:28.100 like, right?
00:25:28.740 It's not some jokey thing.
00:25:30.440 It's not just some easy thing.
00:25:31.980 This is a country
00:25:33.180 that has, you know,
00:25:34.500 built up military.
00:25:36.100 It has been decimated
00:25:37.820 to some degree.
00:25:39.740 I do think
00:25:40.160 they have been weakened.
00:25:41.320 They do have
00:25:41.920 these affiliates
00:25:42.600 around the world
00:25:43.280 that have been weakened
00:25:44.720 especially around
00:25:45.540 the Middle East
00:25:46.120 leading up to this
00:25:46.900 and I think that's why
00:25:47.920 Israel as well
00:25:49.500 as the United States
00:25:50.060 saw an opportunity here
00:25:51.760 maybe a point of weakness.
00:25:53.800 I would love to see
00:25:55.240 the Iranian people
00:25:56.260 rise up
00:25:56.880 and do what
00:25:57.640 President Trump
00:25:58.120 has asked of them
00:25:58.840 to take this over
00:26:00.620 and turn the country
00:26:01.840 into, you know,
00:26:03.800 not only something
00:26:04.680 that I think
00:26:05.400 is not a negative influence
00:26:06.540 on the rest of the world
00:26:07.440 but also not a negative
00:26:08.440 influence on their people.
00:26:09.580 I would love to see them
00:26:10.220 have the freedom
00:26:11.240 that they want.
00:26:11.800 I would love that too
00:26:12.400 but how can they do it?
00:26:13.380 Like people are criticizing
00:26:14.320 them right now
00:26:14.880 for not, you know,
00:26:16.060 going to the streets
00:26:16.760 and doing what they did
00:26:17.640 in mid-January.
00:26:18.580 It's like, well,
00:26:18.980 we're bombing their cities.
00:26:20.720 You know, I mean, 0.98
00:26:21.100 we're bombing the hell 0.96
00:26:22.020 out of them. 0.99
00:26:22.760 They can't go out
00:26:24.120 in the streets
00:26:24.580 and we've told them
00:26:25.640 not to
00:26:26.140 but how as a practical matter
00:26:29.060 can they
00:26:29.640 with the IRGC
00:26:30.780 running that country
00:26:31.700 with its guns?
00:26:32.520 I mean,
00:26:33.380 there are thousands,
00:26:35.080 tens of thousands
00:26:35.600 of IRGC,
00:26:36.620 Iranian guard
00:26:37.780 and the Iranians 0.89
00:26:39.760 don't have guns
00:26:40.360 unlike Americans. 0.97
00:26:41.620 They don't have guns.
00:26:42.200 So like,
00:26:43.080 as a practical matter,
00:26:44.020 how does it happen?
00:26:45.740 First of all,
00:26:46.360 I would like to note
00:26:47.180 your argument
00:26:47.820 for the Second Amendment
00:26:48.780 which is, of course,
00:26:49.700 why it exists.
00:26:50.920 I'm in favor
00:26:51.580 of the Second Amendment.
00:26:52.220 really, really important
00:26:54.340 part of this
00:26:55.000 because this is the type
00:26:56.500 of stuff that would be
00:26:57.680 difficult to,
00:26:58.960 you know,
00:26:59.320 that regime
00:26:59.920 is very difficult
00:27:00.760 to implement
00:27:01.260 in a place like
00:27:01.940 the United States.
00:27:02.660 It's not just some,
00:27:03.780 you know,
00:27:04.280 I think the human condition
00:27:05.900 is tilted
00:27:07.280 towards tyranny,
00:27:09.440 right?
00:27:09.660 It's been the entire
00:27:10.420 history of the world.
00:27:11.500 That's another piece
00:27:12.320 of the weaponry
00:27:13.280 against an oppressive government.
00:27:15.960 Massively crucial.
00:27:16.900 And the reason why
00:27:17.440 you don't give your people
00:27:18.420 a Second Amendment
00:27:19.080 like almost every country
00:27:20.060 on Earth has not
00:27:20.920 is so that
00:27:21.920 if you're in this situation,
00:27:23.320 they can't rise up.
00:27:24.180 So it is really,
00:27:25.180 really difficult
00:27:25.600 and probably is going to be
00:27:26.820 a massive loss of life
00:27:28.880 if they do it.
00:27:30.340 Of course,
00:27:31.040 that is up to them.
00:27:32.640 Many people in that country
00:27:33.920 are brave enough
00:27:34.880 and may very well do it.
00:27:36.500 I wouldn't be shocked
00:27:37.280 if they do.
00:27:39.080 And I think,
00:27:39.660 you know,
00:27:39.840 President Trump
00:27:40.460 has outlined this
00:27:41.200 as well as many officials
00:27:42.180 of like,
00:27:43.140 hey,
00:27:43.320 you're right,
00:27:44.160 this isn't the time.
00:27:45.000 You might want to wait
00:27:45.620 a little while
00:27:46.140 until the bombs
00:27:46.800 start dropping,
00:27:47.760 stop dropping.
00:27:48.420 And that's what's been
00:27:48.900 interesting about Trump's
00:27:50.560 continued,
00:27:52.400 you know,
00:27:52.840 again,
00:27:53.160 I'm critical of his
00:27:54.660 communication here
00:27:55.340 because I'm citing
00:27:56.040 some things he's saying
00:27:56.840 and he said some things
00:27:57.520 that are kind of disagreeing
00:27:58.700 with this.
00:27:59.500 But this idea of it being,
00:28:00.920 you know,
00:28:01.600 several weeks,
00:28:02.560 not several years,
00:28:04.180 it's impossible to project
00:28:05.920 that with any level
00:28:07.120 of specificity.
00:28:08.340 And that's,
00:28:09.020 I think,
00:28:09.280 one of the parts
00:28:10.040 that makes me very nervous
00:28:11.180 about this effort,
00:28:12.400 right?
00:28:12.660 Like,
00:28:12.880 I'm nervous
00:28:14.040 that we're going
00:28:14.460 to be able
00:28:14.780 to stick to that.
00:28:16.820 But-
00:28:17.120 We didn't go into Iraq
00:28:18.020 thinking it was going
00:28:18.680 to be several years.
00:28:19.720 We have it on tape.
00:28:20.760 Everybody promising
00:28:21.440 it was going to be days,
00:28:22.980 weeks,
00:28:23.760 possibly,
00:28:24.280 said Cheney.
00:28:25.240 It wound up being
00:28:26.180 almost nine years,
00:28:27.560 eight years
00:28:28.020 and eight months.
00:28:29.960 This is why you try
00:28:31.140 to stay out of war,
00:28:31.820 right?
00:28:32.020 Because it is very difficult
00:28:33.320 even though you could come up
00:28:34.600 with all the justifications.
00:28:35.980 Necessary.
00:28:36.640 That's the good word.
00:28:38.420 Yeah,
00:28:38.660 yeah.
00:28:38.860 And that's a huge,
00:28:40.140 I think,
00:28:40.660 determining factor here.
00:28:42.660 When you look at this
00:28:43.700 and you kind of,
00:28:44.400 you step back,
00:28:46.300 there's so many considerations,
00:28:47.900 right?
00:28:48.160 You heard Marjorie Taylor Greene
00:28:49.500 outlined a bunch of them,
00:28:50.500 right?
00:28:50.620 There's a lot of things
00:28:51.340 that the president
00:28:51.840 has to deal with.
00:28:53.000 And like,
00:28:53.800 you know,
00:28:53.980 we are months away
00:28:55.340 from an election.
00:28:56.740 I can tell you
00:28:57.380 $120 a barrel oil
00:28:59.720 is going to be significant
00:29:01.440 in that election.
00:29:03.220 If it sticks around there,
00:29:05.320 yeah,
00:29:05.580 and we can all say,
00:29:06.460 yeah,
00:29:06.640 well,
00:29:06.880 it'll come down soon
00:29:08.320 and maybe it will,
00:29:09.200 you know.
00:29:09.920 But you're taking
00:29:11.480 a lot of unknowns
00:29:12.600 and you're inserting them
00:29:13.660 into an already
00:29:14.480 difficult situation.
00:29:16.320 And the only time
00:29:17.540 you ever want to do that
00:29:18.440 is when you absolutely
00:29:19.500 have to.
00:29:20.560 And that is,
00:29:21.520 I think,
00:29:21.940 the legitimate criticism
00:29:23.160 here is,
00:29:24.560 you know,
00:29:24.840 while there was opportunity
00:29:25.940 and while I think
00:29:26.600 there was justification,
00:29:28.220 the necessity
00:29:28.940 is the question there.
00:29:30.020 And I think
00:29:30.320 if you can't tick off
00:29:31.400 all three of those boxes,
00:29:32.640 you try to stay
00:29:33.900 out of the conflict
00:29:34.840 because of all the unknowns
00:29:36.140 you're bringing up.
00:29:36.760 Yeah.
00:29:37.160 You don't want to quagmire
00:29:38.340 and you don't want to
00:29:39.320 jeopardize American 0.72
00:29:40.120 service personnel's lives.
00:29:41.420 We lost yet another
00:29:42.860 American service personnel,
00:29:45.240 a seventh now,
00:29:46.100 that's seven American dead
00:29:47.480 as a result of this war.
00:29:50.000 And you don't want to
00:29:51.300 jeopardize the safety
00:29:52.460 of Americans here at home.
00:29:54.900 Kids and others
00:29:56.520 who,
00:29:57.740 you know,
00:29:58.120 that's,
00:29:58.960 they come for the soft targets.
00:30:01.480 I lived this.
00:30:02.620 I,
00:30:02.800 I'm not a spring chicken.
00:30:04.540 I lived this from,
00:30:06.340 I started at Fox News
00:30:07.300 in 2004.
00:30:08.940 I started in news
00:30:10.080 in 2003,
00:30:10.900 but I was at Fox
00:30:12.420 the entire time
00:30:14.200 during the war on terror.
00:30:16.160 And I,
00:30:17.480 we did all the things
00:30:19.140 that people want you to do
00:30:20.400 as a Republican,
00:30:21.380 you know,
00:30:21.720 to support the war,
00:30:23.300 support the president,
00:30:24.560 put the casualties
00:30:25.600 in context,
00:30:27.240 you know,
00:30:27.780 give the president
00:30:28.840 the benefit of the doubt
00:30:30.040 when,
00:30:30.600 and his emissaries,
00:30:31.220 when they say things like
00:30:31.980 they're a WMD,
00:30:32.880 we,
00:30:33.100 I did it all.
00:30:33.780 I did it personally.
00:30:35.440 And I'm just not prepared
00:30:36.480 to do that again.
00:30:37.100 I have an enormous dose
00:30:38.220 of skepticism
00:30:38.880 around all war messaging
00:30:40.380 and around all war,
00:30:42.240 around all war
00:30:42.960 in a way that I did not before
00:30:44.140 because I lived it
00:30:45.000 and I watched Americans
00:30:46.140 have to deal with it
00:30:46.780 on the homeland
00:30:47.360 time and time again.
00:30:49.360 No one thinks
00:30:49.940 that our,
00:30:50.280 our armed forces
00:30:51.480 cannot defeat Iran's. 0.99
00:30:53.400 Of course,
00:30:54.160 obviously,
00:30:54.620 we have the greatest,
00:30:55.800 bravest,
00:30:56.020 bravest,
00:30:56.640 and best military
00:30:57.320 in the world,
00:30:58.660 bar none.
00:30:59.600 It's a question
00:31:00.340 of what they will do
00:31:01.720 in response,
00:31:03.620 like attack our adversaries
00:31:05.020 and effectively turn them,
00:31:06.980 yes,
00:31:07.260 against Iran.
00:31:07.820 Of course,
00:31:08.060 they're already against Iran
00:31:08.980 in the Middle East,
00:31:09.580 but also against us
00:31:10.560 for not defending them adequately,
00:31:12.100 for not getting enough interceptors
00:31:13.560 over there to protect them
00:31:14.980 against the missiles,
00:31:15.620 but we don't have enough.
00:31:16.840 That's why President Trump
00:31:17.780 was meeting with the
00:31:18.600 defense contractors
00:31:19.700 at the White House on Friday,
00:31:20.880 but they can't,
00:31:21.480 they don't turn around fast.
00:31:23.080 It's not easy
00:31:23.580 to make these things
00:31:24.240 and it's also
00:31:24.800 extremely expensive.
00:31:25.620 And their ability
00:31:28.580 is like that
00:31:29.740 of ISIS
00:31:30.980 and Al-Qaeda.
00:31:32.220 It's homegrown terror attacks.
00:31:34.000 It's things like that
00:31:34.640 ABC News report,
00:31:35.740 which,
00:31:36.580 you know,
00:31:36.840 we do need to worry about,
00:31:37.960 but we'll get to that
00:31:38.700 in a second 0.78
00:31:39.000 because there's more warnings
00:31:40.660 on the domestic terror front.
00:31:43.080 You said it's not a game
00:31:44.200 and I agree with you
00:31:44.820 and I don't think
00:31:45.400 President Trump
00:31:45.880 sees it as a game
00:31:46.660 at all.
00:31:47.540 I think he's taking it
00:31:48.240 very seriously.
00:31:49.340 However,
00:31:50.200 one of the main people
00:31:50.980 in his ear
00:31:51.700 seems to think
00:31:53.200 it's like a game
00:31:54.220 and that is Lindsey Graham,
00:31:56.140 who is a villain
00:31:57.540 in this whole thing,
00:31:58.600 a villain.
00:31:59.860 Listen to him
00:32:00.840 over the weekend.
00:32:02.820 He is frothing
00:32:03.720 at the mouth
00:32:04.680 on Fox Business Sunday.
00:32:07.520 I think it's
00:32:08.300 three or four,
00:32:09.340 Deb,
00:32:09.500 you play the right one.
00:32:11.200 Israel and the United States,
00:32:12.800 you just wait
00:32:13.540 to see what comes
00:32:14.620 in the next two weeks.
00:32:16.180 The next two weeks
00:32:17.360 meaning what?
00:32:19.660 We're going to blow
00:32:20.620 the hell out 1.00
00:32:21.280 of these people.
00:32:21.900 Okay.
00:32:24.940 He's jubilant.
00:32:26.900 I would be remiss
00:32:27.760 if I did not mention
00:32:28.600 the Jesse Kelly
00:32:29.340 response to this
00:32:30.680 on X,
00:32:31.480 which was,
00:32:32.360 calm down.
00:32:33.860 He might not,
00:32:35.000 he might,
00:32:35.400 he might not be talking
00:32:37.120 about weapons.
00:32:41.400 Okay,
00:32:41.860 that was funny.
00:32:42.460 You have to laugh
00:32:43.060 where you can.
00:32:43.920 But then he followed up
00:32:45.400 with this
00:32:45.900 in Sot 4.
00:32:48.740 If we get in a fight,
00:32:49.880 I want to win it.
00:32:50.600 I want to win it quick.
00:32:51.480 I'm in Miami.
00:32:52.660 You see this hat?
00:32:54.220 Free Cuba.
00:32:55.160 Stay tuned.
00:32:56.140 The liberation of Cuba
00:32:57.240 is upon us.
00:32:58.720 We're marching
00:32:59.300 through the world.
00:33:00.340 We're cleaning out
00:33:01.060 the bad guys.
00:33:02.340 Iran is going down 0.99
00:33:03.620 and Cuba is next.
00:33:05.560 We're marching
00:33:06.640 through the world
00:33:07.800 and cleaning out
00:33:09.160 the bad guys?
00:33:10.980 No,
00:33:11.320 what the,
00:33:11.840 who voted for that? 0.57
00:33:13.500 No one voted for that.
00:33:15.400 Trump ran
00:33:16.240 on keeping us
00:33:17.020 out of war,
00:33:18.080 especially out
00:33:18.840 of a Middle East war.
00:33:19.880 And now you've got 0.99
00:33:20.840 this lunatic 1.00
00:33:21.820 saying we're marching 1.00
00:33:22.840 through the world
00:33:23.900 and taking down
00:33:25.120 all the bad guys?
00:33:26.400 No,
00:33:26.640 no one elected you
00:33:27.620 to do that.
00:33:28.400 And no one elected
00:33:29.460 President Trump
00:33:30.060 to do that either.
00:33:30.880 And I actually don't think
00:33:31.740 that's on President Trump's agenda.
00:33:33.620 I think on Iran,
00:33:34.680 he was manipulated
00:33:35.400 by people like Lindsey Graham.
00:33:37.260 And I know that
00:33:38.080 thanks to the Wall Street Journal
00:33:39.160 that did a deep dive 0.99
00:33:40.100 on it being Lindsey Graham,
00:33:42.720 General Jack Keene,
00:33:43.920 and my old pal,
00:33:44.860 Mark Thiessen,
00:33:45.800 from Fox News,
00:33:46.680 who were primarily
00:33:48.140 in his ear pushing,
00:33:50.080 in addition to Bibi Netanyahu,
00:33:51.860 pushing for this war.
00:33:52.960 But your thoughts
00:33:53.500 on Lindsey Graham
00:33:54.480 and his messaging there, Stu?
00:33:57.240 Well,
00:33:57.740 we'll make it.
00:33:58.260 It's been known
00:33:59.340 for a while 1.00
00:33:59.800 that Lindsey Graham sucks 1.00
00:34:00.960 in every way imaginable. 0.99
00:34:02.900 I can't,
00:34:03.980 I'm not a fan of him.
00:34:05.500 And I,
00:34:05.840 you know,
00:34:05.960 one of the worst parts
00:34:07.320 about Lindsey Graham
00:34:08.380 is he's not the senator
00:34:10.200 from Vermont
00:34:11.780 or Maine
00:34:12.740 or Massachusetts.
00:34:13.720 Like,
00:34:14.480 we could actually
00:34:15.320 have a good
00:34:15.980 Republican senator
00:34:17.160 from South Carolina.
00:34:18.320 We could get one elected.
00:34:19.860 You know,
00:34:20.060 we've done it before.
00:34:21.180 Could do it again.
00:34:22.120 I don't understand
00:34:22.960 the whole Lindsey Graham thing.
00:34:24.440 He seems to be
00:34:25.120 a one-issue guy,
00:34:26.300 which is continually
00:34:27.400 pushing for
00:34:28.340 this sort of
00:34:29.400 international involvement
00:34:31.240 in every way possible.
00:34:33.740 Yeah,
00:34:33.980 it's constant
00:34:35.180 with him.
00:34:36.720 And,
00:34:36.960 you know,
00:34:37.220 look,
00:34:38.560 he is who he is.
00:34:40.620 He's been pretty
00:34:41.180 consistent on this.
00:34:42.060 I mean,
00:34:42.180 he ran for president
00:34:43.000 as a one-issue candidate,
00:34:44.900 right,
00:34:45.200 to push the United States
00:34:46.640 towards these types
00:34:47.820 of arguments.
00:34:48.820 So,
00:34:49.180 you know,
00:34:49.580 I guess I'll give him
00:34:50.320 points for consistency.
00:34:51.780 But that's not where
00:34:52.420 Donald Trump has been.
00:34:53.760 Trump has been,
00:34:54.660 you know,
00:34:55.260 fighting against this
00:34:56.260 for the entire time.
00:34:57.640 I mean,
00:34:57.920 this has been,
00:34:58.600 you know,
00:34:58.800 he has not,
00:34:59.680 he's been,
00:35:00.460 you know,
00:35:00.620 he hasn't been anti-war.
00:35:01.960 I don't think that's fair to say.
00:35:03.420 I think he doesn't like war.
00:35:04.820 He doesn't like
00:35:05.100 that sort of involvement.
00:35:06.560 But he is interested
00:35:08.900 in having the United States
00:35:11.760 have an influence
00:35:12.520 on the world.
00:35:13.500 You know,
00:35:13.920 I've been workshopping this
00:35:15.360 and why not roll it out
00:35:16.940 on one of the biggest shows
00:35:17.840 in the world?
00:35:18.820 But tell me if you think,
00:35:21.580 if I have anything here,
00:35:23.580 one of the arguments
00:35:24.220 against U.S. involvement
00:35:25.740 around the world,
00:35:26.440 kind of from a more
00:35:27.400 libertarian perspective
00:35:28.380 over the years,
00:35:28.960 has been this idea
00:35:29.740 that we don't want to be
00:35:30.800 the world's policemen.
00:35:32.460 And that is like something
00:35:33.940 I think is an inaccurate
00:35:36.060 way of phrasing
00:35:38.260 what they were criticizing,
00:35:39.380 which was really like
00:35:41.620 more like the Iraq war
00:35:42.920 and more like getting involved
00:35:44.100 in everything,
00:35:45.100 everywhere and,
00:35:45.880 you know,
00:35:47.400 putting up shop
00:35:48.180 for 10,
00:35:48.860 20 years in a country
00:35:49.920 and trying to nation build.
00:35:51.340 And, you know,
00:35:51.980 the world's policeman
00:35:53.080 got summarized to that.
00:35:54.620 In a way,
00:35:55.540 it feels like Trump
00:35:56.460 in a way
00:35:56.980 has actually embraced
00:35:57.900 a more specific example
00:35:59.960 of being the world's policeman.
00:36:03.020 He does seem to want
00:36:04.500 to get involved
00:36:05.260 in a lot of these things,
00:36:06.360 but quickly,
00:36:07.460 like a police officer
00:36:08.280 doesn't come in
00:36:09.060 and set up shop
00:36:10.100 in the hallway
00:36:10.640 of an apartment building
00:36:11.480 for 10 years, right?
00:36:12.780 Moves in with you.
00:36:13.940 Yeah, they come in,
00:36:15.360 they deal with the issue
00:36:16.560 going on
00:36:17.140 and they get out
00:36:18.060 and give you a chance
00:36:19.600 to live your life.
00:36:20.800 I mean,
00:36:21.280 you know,
00:36:21.440 what happened in Venezuela
00:36:22.260 is really an interesting
00:36:23.340 example of that, right?
00:36:24.920 Maduro was, again,
00:36:26.360 very justified
00:36:27.100 that we would have
00:36:29.180 a problem with him
00:36:30.000 and be involved
00:36:30.560 in that situation.
00:36:31.700 He saw an opportunity
00:36:32.700 and went in there,
00:36:33.860 took him out.
00:36:34.460 And, you know,
00:36:35.320 like I would much more
00:36:36.560 prefer a different leader
00:36:38.600 there than Delsi,
00:36:39.600 who I think is terrible
00:36:40.880 and likely the second
00:36:42.040 Trump's out of office
00:36:42.920 is going to be back
00:36:43.580 to exactly who Maduro was.
00:36:45.780 But, you know,
00:36:46.480 he seems to be okay
00:36:48.000 with taking care of an issue
00:36:49.980 and then stepping back.
00:36:50.920 And that gives you
00:36:51.560 maybe some hope
00:36:52.640 for what we are going
00:36:53.900 to see here in Iran.
00:36:55.800 The problem with this,
00:36:56.720 of course-
00:36:57.240 You know as well as I do
00:36:58.140 that they just elected
00:36:59.040 the Supreme Leader's son
00:37:00.800 to be the next Supreme Leader
00:37:02.720 who is more of a hardliner
00:37:04.220 than the dead Ayatollah, 0.72
00:37:06.280 who's more radical
00:37:07.400 and more hardline,
00:37:09.000 more anti-American,
00:37:10.040 more anti-Israel,
00:37:11.240 and more pro-nuclear.
00:37:13.180 I like,
00:37:14.100 that's the problem
00:37:15.780 with getting rid 0.98
00:37:16.500 of these evil leaders 0.98
00:37:18.120 in foreign countries.
00:37:19.840 You never know
00:37:20.500 what you're going to get.
00:37:21.280 Now Trump's answer
00:37:21.940 is to say,
00:37:23.000 he didn't specify
00:37:23.720 about this guy,
00:37:24.360 but he basically said, 0.97
00:37:25.100 we're going to kill anybody 0.99
00:37:25.960 who we don't agree to 1.00
00:37:27.560 as Iran's next leader.
00:37:29.740 I mean,
00:37:30.160 that's quite a promise.
00:37:31.620 Maybe the president
00:37:33.840 will live up to it,
00:37:34.620 but I also worry
00:37:35.500 about the Trump administration.
00:37:37.100 I worry about the Trump family.
00:37:38.300 I worry about the next president 0.92
00:37:39.280 because assassinating
00:37:41.120 a foreign country's leader
00:37:42.180 has consequences
00:37:43.500 that will last generations.
00:37:45.260 I mean,
00:37:45.420 we really have no idea
00:37:46.580 how long
00:37:48.340 that will be in the head
00:37:49.660 of our enemies
00:37:51.040 and how badly
00:37:52.880 they will seek retribution
00:37:53.960 for it.
00:37:54.780 But I mean,
00:37:55.020 if we just continue
00:37:55.900 assassinating leader 0.94
00:37:57.900 after leader in Iran
00:37:59.080 to pretend that's not
00:37:59.860 going to have any consequences
00:38:00.740 is folly.
00:38:02.740 Yeah,
00:38:02.980 I mean,
00:38:03.720 Iran's learning that 1.00
00:38:04.540 in a way,
00:38:04.960 right?
00:38:05.160 Like they wanted to take out
00:38:06.680 President Trump
00:38:07.340 and they're finding out
00:38:08.820 that that's not,
00:38:09.520 maybe that wasn't a good idea.
00:38:11.220 And I think it is,
00:38:12.900 it makes you very nervous,
00:38:14.140 right?
00:38:14.360 And that's the problem here.
00:38:15.340 I mean,
00:38:15.520 when I say like,
00:38:16.500 I hope President Trump's
00:38:18.300 approach
00:38:18.700 and his kind of
00:38:19.900 outward position
00:38:21.460 of this being limited
00:38:22.520 is the direction we go.
00:38:24.420 We have to acknowledge
00:38:25.260 that he's not the only one
00:38:26.440 with a voice in that,
00:38:27.620 right?
00:38:27.800 The new leader of Iran
00:38:29.360 has a voice in that as well.
00:38:31.000 And he might not want it to end.
00:38:32.680 He might not want it to be
00:38:33.560 a four or five week operation.
00:38:35.180 He might consider
00:38:36.180 putting terror cells
00:38:37.420 in the United States
00:38:38.140 for years and years
00:38:38.800 and years to come.
00:38:39.640 Now,
00:38:39.980 luckily,
00:38:40.260 we have a little bit
00:38:41.260 better control
00:38:41.980 of our border
00:38:43.020 than we did
00:38:43.700 in previous times.
00:38:45.060 But it's impossible
00:38:46.540 to stop all of this.
00:38:48.240 We know-
00:38:48.620 They're already here, Stu.
00:38:49.840 They're already here.
00:38:50.720 They were already here
00:38:51.620 for years.
00:38:52.260 As we were complaining
00:38:53.180 about years and years
00:38:53.940 and years ago, Megan,
00:38:54.740 you go back to the post-9-11 days,
00:38:57.540 one of the big concerns we had
00:38:58.800 was how many people
00:38:59.840 from areas like Iran
00:39:01.220 were crossing the border
00:39:02.620 and coming into this country.
00:39:05.000 There's plenty of people
00:39:06.080 here from Iran
00:39:06.780 that are not involved in that,
00:39:08.320 but there have been people
00:39:09.360 who are illegally here 0.99
00:39:10.620 who are likely
00:39:12.700 to be sleeper cells.
00:39:13.560 We've had many reports
00:39:14.660 over the years
00:39:15.240 that intelligence shows
00:39:17.160 there are people here.
00:39:19.220 So we don't know
00:39:20.400 how this blows up, right?
00:39:21.720 And, you know,
00:39:23.000 like most people,
00:39:24.200 if this regime
00:39:25.240 is able to stay in power,
00:39:26.620 meaning the sun sticks around
00:39:28.120 or there's some
00:39:28.780 Islamic extremist regime
00:39:30.160 that sticks around,
00:39:30.980 they're not likely
00:39:31.680 to forget this
00:39:32.580 and just say,
00:39:33.200 ah, well, you know,
00:39:35.160 pragmatically,
00:39:36.080 we're in trouble here.
00:39:37.080 I guess we should do
00:39:37.760 whatever Donald Trump says.
00:39:39.080 Like, this is
00:39:39.680 a much more ideological regime.
00:39:41.460 And look at how the Secret Service
00:39:41.880 has had enough trouble
00:39:43.080 protecting President Trump.
00:39:45.620 You know,
00:39:45.900 there was a very near miss
00:39:48.540 at Butler, Pennsylvania.
00:39:50.460 Multiple.
00:39:50.720 What happened at his golf course
00:39:52.820 was not reassuring.
00:39:54.560 Yes, they found the guy
00:39:55.380 with the rifle,
00:39:55.980 but many of us still wonder
00:39:56.880 how the guy with the rifle
00:39:58.360 got so close to the president
00:40:00.160 and was sitting lying in wait
00:40:01.540 for hours and hours
00:40:02.280 on his property
00:40:03.020 with a gun sticking
00:40:03.720 between the fence.
00:40:04.780 And then Secret Service
00:40:06.800 shot at him
00:40:07.320 and missed repeatedly.
00:40:08.460 He got away.
00:40:09.560 They tracked him down after.
00:40:10.580 But I mean,
00:40:10.880 I'm just saying,
00:40:12.340 like,
00:40:13.120 I don't think we should,
00:40:14.260 it would be much better
00:40:15.140 in any security guard
00:40:16.060 protecting you
00:40:16.740 as a public official
00:40:17.720 or even figure
00:40:19.200 will tell you
00:40:19.800 that the main goal
00:40:21.620 is to protect you
00:40:22.660 long before the bad guy
00:40:24.520 ever gets within your radius.
00:40:26.100 Right?
00:40:26.280 It's monitoring
00:40:27.160 the online threats,
00:40:28.680 making sure
00:40:29.180 the security perimeter
00:40:30.180 around you
00:40:30.980 is fortified
00:40:31.760 and all that.
00:40:32.700 And while,
00:40:33.720 you know,
00:40:33.940 we haven't been great,
00:40:34.580 we have not been great
00:40:35.340 about doing that for Trump.
00:40:37.380 Hopefully,
00:40:37.840 we're getting better.
00:40:38.400 But Trump has got
00:40:39.340 a very big family.
00:40:40.420 Trump has got grandkids.
00:40:41.340 He's got kids.
00:40:41.940 He's got,
00:40:42.300 you know,
00:40:42.980 it's just,
00:40:43.840 we're playing with fire here.
00:40:45.600 And so,
00:40:46.140 to your point,
00:40:47.360 I want to be better convinced
00:40:48.900 that this was a need.
00:40:50.640 It was a must do.
00:40:52.460 And I am not convinced
00:40:53.700 of that at all.
00:40:54.760 I don't see myself
00:40:55.460 getting convinced of that,
00:40:56.460 though I continue
00:40:56.960 to talk to supporters
00:40:58.520 of the war
00:40:58.980 because I want to know
00:40:59.760 both arguments
00:41:00.360 and I want my audience
00:41:01.920 to hear both arguments
00:41:03.520 fleshed out
00:41:04.000 and not just my opinion.
00:41:05.920 But Lindsey Graham, 0.76
00:41:06.820 he's got to go.
00:41:08.000 By the way,
00:41:08.340 an interesting question.
00:41:09.400 So Lindsey Graham 0.99
00:41:09.920 at least is disclosing
00:41:10.980 to his credit
00:41:11.620 the amount of times
00:41:12.900 like he lobbied
00:41:13.680 the president
00:41:14.120 and went to Netanyahu
00:41:15.440 and I'll get to that.
00:41:16.620 I do wonder
00:41:17.440 whether it's been disclosed
00:41:18.340 that these other
00:41:18.840 Fox News contributors
00:41:19.660 were in the president's ear
00:41:21.700 and actually making the case
00:41:23.000 to him over and over
00:41:23.980 because we spent
00:41:25.200 a lot of time
00:41:25.620 on this show
00:41:26.100 ripping on people
00:41:28.260 over on MSNBC
00:41:29.380 like the historian,
00:41:31.180 what's his name,
00:41:31.860 John Meacham,
00:41:33.280 for writing
00:41:34.380 President Biden's speech
00:41:35.660 for him
00:41:36.200 and then going on MSNBC
00:41:37.720 and praising the speech.
00:41:39.080 So if you were
00:41:39.840 a key advisor
00:41:40.420 to President Trump
00:41:42.180 pushing him
00:41:42.740 to get into this war,
00:41:43.800 you cannot go out
00:41:44.820 on the airwaves of Fox
00:41:45.780 and just act
00:41:46.780 like a random pundit
00:41:47.720 supporting it.
00:41:49.200 You have to disclose
00:41:50.100 and maybe they did
00:41:51.120 but you do have to disclose
00:41:52.700 that you were,
00:41:54.080 you have a horse in the race.
00:41:55.800 You know,
00:41:55.980 you helped make it happen.
00:41:57.260 That's an important thing
00:41:58.260 to disclose.
00:41:59.420 But here's Lindsey Graham,
00:42:01.280 the Wall Street Journal.
00:42:02.120 He gave an interview
00:42:02.640 to the Journal
00:42:03.160 so this is not
00:42:03.740 their secret reporting.
00:42:05.020 This is him.
00:42:06.280 To help make the case
00:42:07.200 on Iran,
00:42:08.140 Graham traveled
00:42:09.380 several times
00:42:10.120 to Israel
00:42:10.660 in recent weeks
00:42:11.560 meeting with
00:42:12.160 members of the country's
00:42:13.520 intelligence agency.
00:42:14.660 Quote,
00:42:15.240 they'll tell me things
00:42:16.460 our own government
00:42:17.500 won't tell me.
00:42:18.720 He spoke with Israeli
00:42:19.700 Prime Minister
00:42:20.220 Benjamin Netanyahu
00:42:21.180 coaching him
00:42:22.620 on how to lobby
00:42:24.080 President Trump
00:42:24.980 for action.
00:42:26.500 Netanyahu showed
00:42:27.280 the president
00:42:27.700 intelligence
00:42:28.400 that persuaded Trump
00:42:29.980 to go ahead,
00:42:31.620 said Graham.
00:42:32.180 We continue to be called
00:42:35.620 anti-Semitic
00:42:36.400 if you say
00:42:36.880 that we're doing this
00:42:37.900 because of Israel.
00:42:39.220 We are 100%
00:42:40.440 doing this
00:42:40.800 because of Israel.
00:42:41.500 If you used
00:42:42.100 a but-for cause,
00:42:42.980 would we be doing this
00:42:43.900 if Israel
00:42:45.000 were not involved?
00:42:46.080 The answer is no,
00:42:47.220 we wouldn't.
00:42:47.740 We've heard that
00:42:48.120 from Marco Rubio.
00:42:49.120 Now we hear that
00:42:49.660 from Lindsey Graham
00:42:50.240 directly.
00:42:52.040 It's been reported
00:42:52.920 by left and right-wing
00:42:54.140 outlets alike.
00:42:55.520 Iran was, 0.93
00:42:56.480 sorry,
00:42:56.840 Israel was the one 1.00
00:42:57.680 pushing for this war
00:42:58.880 and Lindsey Graham
00:43:01.020 helped
00:43:01.320 and so did
00:43:01.780 some Fox News
00:43:02.340 contributors
00:43:02.720 and so did
00:43:03.260 many others
00:43:03.840 who were Israel
00:43:04.340 firsters like
00:43:05.120 Mark Levin.
00:43:06.580 He goes on to say
00:43:07.520 Graham talked
00:43:08.300 to the Saudi
00:43:08.840 Crown Prince
00:43:09.660 Mohammed bin Salman
00:43:10.460 as well
00:43:10.780 to make sure
00:43:11.280 he was aware.
00:43:12.240 I went to MBS
00:43:13.040 to say,
00:43:13.540 okay,
00:43:13.940 I think this is
00:43:14.600 going down.
00:43:15.900 Talk about
00:43:16.440 the Fox News
00:43:17.200 contributors
00:43:17.680 who took turns
00:43:19.360 calling the president
00:43:20.240 and compared notes,
00:43:22.480 Graham said.
00:43:23.060 There were not
00:43:24.380 a lot of other voices
00:43:25.600 advancing the argument
00:43:27.240 for action.
00:43:27.820 Just,
00:43:28.100 I will pause here
00:43:28.740 to say I don't
00:43:30.580 begrudge them
00:43:31.200 that they thought
00:43:31.780 this was a good idea.
00:43:32.640 I happen to love
00:43:33.440 Mark Thiessen
00:43:33.960 and I have nothing
00:43:34.680 but respect
00:43:35.100 for General Keene.
00:43:35.840 I deeply admire
00:43:36.860 both of them.
00:43:38.360 I'm talking about
00:43:39.840 what Fox is
00:43:40.620 or is not
00:43:41.080 requiring of them
00:43:41.900 in terms of
00:43:42.340 disclosures.
00:43:42.940 But I,
00:43:43.280 and look,
00:43:44.320 the president,
00:43:45.060 I love the president
00:43:45.760 and clearly he's
00:43:46.580 in support of the war.
00:43:47.400 I,
00:43:47.980 unlike so many
00:43:48.760 of my critics,
00:43:49.740 can hold in my head
00:43:50.580 two things at one time.
00:43:51.940 We disagree vehemently
00:43:53.180 on policy,
00:43:53.860 but you're not
00:43:54.240 a bad person.
00:43:55.360 Okay,
00:43:55.580 like that's,
00:43:56.680 to me that's a leftist 0.99
00:43:57.760 fucking thing 0.99
00:43:58.280 to do that 1.00
00:43:58.840 and these people
00:43:59.560 who want to cut
00:44:00.120 people out of
00:44:00.600 conservative movement
00:44:01.280 because they're
00:44:01.680 anti-Israel,
00:44:02.320 they're anti-war 0.98
00:44:02.940 is sick. 1.00
00:44:04.000 It's sick and deranged. 0.85
00:44:05.020 I'm not one of them.
00:44:06.520 Here's another.
00:44:08.000 Trump called Graham
00:44:08.960 this week
00:44:09.400 to praise his
00:44:10.340 television appearances.
00:44:11.740 Oh my God.
00:44:13.440 Graham saw an opportunity.
00:44:15.380 The senator said
00:44:16.240 he pitched Trump
00:44:17.360 on bombing
00:44:18.600 Iranian
00:44:19.680 and Hezbollah
00:44:20.560 elements
00:44:21.020 inside Lebanon.
00:44:23.160 Trump said
00:44:23.540 he'd think about it.
00:44:24.940 Graham recalled,
00:44:25.740 quote,
00:44:25.920 I just think
00:44:26.540 he has seen
00:44:27.080 the capability
00:44:27.700 of our military.
00:44:29.160 Graham goes on,
00:44:29.760 what I don't understand
00:44:30.520 is why more people
00:44:31.320 don't do it.
00:44:32.400 Try to shape
00:44:33.000 these events.
00:44:33.880 This is a moment
00:44:34.540 of world history here.
00:44:35.940 Just jump in the deep
00:44:37.100 end of the pool.
00:44:39.020 This guy 1.00
00:44:39.800 is a homicidal maniac 1.00
00:44:42.000 with a bloodlust 1.00
00:44:43.700 that is insatiable.
00:44:45.520 He wants us,
00:44:46.280 he got us into
00:44:47.020 the Iranian war,
00:44:47.860 Lindsey Graham.
00:44:48.440 Now he wants us
00:44:49.140 to get involved
00:44:49.680 in a Lebanese war,
00:44:51.200 which Israel's already 0.83
00:44:52.360 starting or involved in.
00:44:54.740 And he wants us
00:44:55.620 to go into Cuba
00:44:56.480 from the sound of it.
00:44:57.840 Possibly,
00:44:58.480 is that a boots
00:44:59.220 on the ground situation?
00:45:00.260 I don't know.
00:45:01.200 But this guy
00:45:01.780 should be nowhere near
00:45:03.460 President Trump.
00:45:04.760 He should not be allowed
00:45:05.980 within 20 feet
00:45:06.780 of the president's orbit.
00:45:08.180 And the president
00:45:08.740 should make the decision
00:45:09.620 to keep this guy
00:45:10.980 the hell away from him
00:45:12.480 or at least
00:45:13.440 in his own mind
00:45:14.280 shut down
00:45:15.020 his influence.
00:45:16.360 This is not a force
00:45:17.380 for good
00:45:17.740 in the United States
00:45:18.580 of America,
00:45:19.120 Lindsey Graham.
00:45:20.520 It's funny
00:45:21.180 because I think
00:45:21.880 making the argument
00:45:23.680 passionately
00:45:24.380 for a conflict
00:45:25.420 with Iran
00:45:26.060 is an argument
00:45:27.400 you can make.
00:45:28.020 A lot of people
00:45:28.520 are highly convinced
00:45:30.820 of this.
00:45:31.340 And I don't think
00:45:31.920 that's the problem.
00:45:32.820 I think the problem
00:45:34.380 here is,
00:45:35.940 and the thing
00:45:36.540 that I guess
00:45:36.960 shocks me
00:45:37.520 that Trump
00:45:38.000 keeps him
00:45:38.520 in his orbit
00:45:39.020 at all,
00:45:40.020 is because he keeps
00:45:40.760 admitting this stuff.
00:45:42.140 That he's attempting
00:45:43.820 to manipulate
00:45:46.220 the president
00:45:47.020 of the United States.
00:45:48.220 I would think
00:45:48.940 Trump would hate that
00:45:50.160 and hate anyone
00:45:51.220 who would ever
00:45:51.800 admit that.
00:45:53.380 Because,
00:45:54.080 for example,
00:45:55.060 Megan,
00:45:55.520 you're passionate
00:45:56.040 about a lot of things.
00:45:56.720 I'm passionate
00:45:57.060 about a lot of things.
00:45:58.360 If you went to
00:45:59.480 President Trump
00:46:00.040 and you talked
00:46:00.480 to him about
00:46:01.060 an issue about
00:46:02.780 men playing
00:46:04.000 in women's sports
00:46:04.800 and you were able
00:46:05.560 to convince him
00:46:06.380 to influence him
00:46:08.140 in some way
00:46:08.580 to pass a bill
00:46:09.400 that brought
00:46:10.560 some sanity
00:46:11.200 into that world,
00:46:12.700 there'd be no problem
00:46:13.960 with you doing that.
00:46:14.980 There's no problem
00:46:15.780 with you doing that.
00:46:16.460 There's no problem
00:46:17.020 with Lindsey Graham
00:46:17.700 in theory
00:46:18.100 making an argument
00:46:18.940 about what he thinks
00:46:19.780 is right.
00:46:21.460 I don't have
00:46:22.720 that issue.
00:46:23.620 I think that's okay.
00:46:25.660 And at the end
00:46:26.120 of the day,
00:46:26.640 it comes down to
00:46:27.420 it is the president's
00:46:28.540 responsibility
00:46:29.080 to listen to all
00:46:30.440 these voices,
00:46:31.160 the team of rivals,
00:46:32.180 listen to all of them.
00:46:32.640 And he listened
00:46:33.080 to Tucker Carlson too.
00:46:34.240 To his credit,
00:46:34.920 Tucker made the hard case
00:46:35.880 against the war
00:46:36.440 and the president
00:46:36.960 listened to him
00:46:37.680 and ultimately
00:46:38.620 overruled him
00:46:39.460 as is his right.
00:46:41.220 He's the president,
00:46:42.180 not Tucker,
00:46:42.740 not Lindsey.
00:46:44.040 Exactly.
00:46:44.620 And a lot of those people
00:46:45.560 who,
00:46:46.300 the same people
00:46:47.060 who are making
00:46:47.600 the argument for Iran 0.91
00:46:49.120 and maybe won
00:46:50.000 the day
00:46:51.000 on that particular issue
00:46:51.960 were making
00:46:52.700 the same argument
00:46:53.420 about Ukraine
00:46:54.060 and maybe didn't
00:46:54.920 win that one.
00:46:55.640 And I think
00:46:55.940 President Trump
00:46:56.480 is taking these
00:46:57.220 things individually
00:46:57.920 and trying
00:46:58.480 to judge them
00:47:01.200 on the merits
00:47:02.200 of the situation.
00:47:03.960 I'm very risk-averse
00:47:05.720 on this stuff though,
00:47:06.680 right?
00:47:07.040 And someone
00:47:08.380 like Lindsey Graham
00:47:09.060 isn't.
00:47:10.060 He is,
00:47:11.120 get out there,
00:47:11.960 mix it up,
00:47:12.660 and let all the chips
00:47:13.580 fall all over the place.
00:47:14.660 Sometimes they fall
00:47:16.040 on American citizens
00:47:16.940 and that makes me
00:47:18.500 very, very nervous.
00:47:20.260 And to come back
00:47:21.060 a little bit
00:47:21.480 to the political side
00:47:22.460 of this,
00:47:23.300 this should be
00:47:23.960 the central focus
00:47:25.260 of the American
00:47:26.740 conservative movement
00:47:27.960 when you're talking
00:47:28.860 about just political
00:47:29.620 strategy.
00:47:30.820 We have a bunch
00:47:32.300 of these senators
00:47:33.240 and House members
00:47:34.560 who are in very
00:47:35.720 conservative districts
00:47:36.680 that we can do
00:47:37.740 better than.
00:47:38.860 We can improve
00:47:39.900 those situations
00:47:40.600 without losing the seats.
00:47:41.740 Settle for more.
00:47:42.840 Oh, yes,
00:47:43.420 thank you.
00:47:43.920 A lot of times
00:47:44.780 we seem to do
00:47:45.380 this thing
00:47:45.740 where we're like,
00:47:46.300 well,
00:47:46.800 we have a moderate
00:47:47.700 in a place
00:47:49.340 like Delaware
00:47:50.160 and we're like,
00:47:51.100 oh,
00:47:51.260 we got to make sure
00:47:51.900 we take out
00:47:52.340 that moderate
00:47:52.840 in Delaware.
00:47:53.460 Look,
00:47:53.700 I would like everyone
00:47:54.520 to be as conservative
00:47:55.260 as possible.
00:47:56.360 But you want
00:47:56.640 the most conservative
00:47:57.440 person in an area
00:47:58.340 that is able to win.
00:48:01.020 And look,
00:48:02.280 that is not because
00:48:03.400 I care about winning
00:48:04.380 per se.
00:48:04.960 It's about because
00:48:05.440 I care about the policies
00:48:06.460 behind that winning.
00:48:08.320 And we keep sitting here.
00:48:09.800 John Cornyn's
00:48:10.500 another one here in Texas.
00:48:11.420 We have really good
00:48:12.860 senators in red states.
00:48:14.300 We should be able
00:48:15.280 to put them in,
00:48:16.700 go after these primaries
00:48:17.880 in sensible ways,
00:48:19.380 win them with conservative
00:48:20.580 candidates,
00:48:21.220 and then bring those
00:48:21.900 candidates into the forefront
00:48:23.340 in the states
00:48:24.400 where they can easily win.
00:48:25.840 A lot of times
00:48:26.300 we just wind up getting off,
00:48:27.780 we're like,
00:48:28.320 oh, well,
00:48:28.720 this guy's been there forever,
00:48:29.860 so let's just keep him there.
00:48:31.660 We should try to be
00:48:32.420 improving the situation.
00:48:33.280 What are people in South Carolina
00:48:34.060 doing with Lindsey Graham?
00:48:35.200 Honestly,
00:48:35.580 this man,
00:48:36.820 he has undermined
00:48:38.300 the safety of the United States
00:48:40.220 long enough.
00:48:40.740 He's undermined
00:48:41.320 the president's
00:48:42.360 valuable inputs
00:48:43.800 long enough.
00:48:44.820 And he's making
00:48:45.840 this whole thing
00:48:46.680 into a national
00:48:47.420 laughing stock.
00:48:48.920 Oh,
00:48:49.240 we are the police
00:48:50.860 in the world.
00:48:51.340 That's what he said.
00:48:51.920 There are bad guys
00:48:52.360 all over the world.
00:48:53.040 We're on the march
00:48:53.620 against them.
00:48:54.440 Whoa,
00:48:54.740 whoa,
00:48:55.020 whoa. 1.00
00:48:55.400 You have no fucking kids 1.00
00:48:57.180 and no fucking clue. 1.00
00:48:59.400 Those of us 0.99
00:49:00.000 who have children,
00:49:01.040 especially the moms I know
00:49:02.580 who have kids
00:49:03.080 who are in the armed forces,
00:49:04.640 don't have the same bloodlust
00:49:06.740 that you have,
00:49:07.760 childless,
00:49:08.600 weird man. 0.67
00:49:09.680 It's really upsetting to me
00:49:11.480 that because Lindsey Graham
00:49:13.100 decided in his
00:49:14.480 dark corner basement
00:49:15.900 that he wanted
00:49:17.120 to get off again
00:49:18.160 watching bombs blow up,
00:49:20.680 seven service personnel
00:49:21.800 are now dead.
00:49:22.820 I'm just,
00:49:23.200 I'm sorry,
00:49:24.020 but I just feel like 0.98
00:49:24.660 he has no fucking compassion 0.99
00:49:27.060 for human life. 0.99
00:49:29.040 All he wants to do
00:49:29.760 is see bombs go off.
00:49:31.420 And President Trump
00:49:32.500 needs to understand
00:49:33.280 that he is undermining
00:49:34.620 everything President Trump
00:49:36.040 is doing.
00:49:36.880 Pete Hegseth
00:49:37.320 is taking a lot of heat
00:49:38.340 for sounding
00:49:40.020 very bellicose
00:49:41.940 and kind of threatening
00:49:43.600 and unapologetic
00:49:45.000 about the power
00:49:45.660 of the American military.
00:49:47.020 I understand that criticism
00:49:48.680 because normally
00:49:49.540 when we talk about ourselves
00:49:50.800 as the American military,
00:49:51.860 we use humility
00:49:53.360 because we know
00:49:54.260 we're the strongest.
00:49:55.340 So it doesn't,
00:49:56.160 it doesn't make us look good
00:49:58.300 to talk about
00:49:58.780 how strong we are
00:49:59.560 and how we can crush anybody.
00:50:00.700 But I forgive Pete Hegseth
00:50:02.260 because he's in the middle
00:50:03.620 of commanding a war.
00:50:05.340 President Trump too
00:50:06.160 is in the middle of,
00:50:07.040 he's the ultimate commander.
00:50:08.320 But President Trump is,
00:50:09.140 I mean,
00:50:09.460 Secretary of War Pete Hegseth
00:50:11.260 is running this military operation
00:50:13.080 at the top
00:50:13.600 with the chairman
00:50:14.480 of the Joint Chiefs.
00:50:15.260 And of course,
00:50:16.660 he's in a certain mindset
00:50:17.820 right now
00:50:18.440 and he needs also
00:50:19.500 to worry about comms,
00:50:20.780 communications.
00:50:21.540 And so that's where
00:50:22.760 he's coming at it from.
00:50:23.760 Lindsey Graham
00:50:24.360 is inexcusable
00:50:25.400 and should not be allowed
00:50:26.500 back on television.
00:50:27.620 Period.
00:50:28.140 Never mind in office.
00:50:30.020 Stand by,
00:50:30.460 quick break,
00:50:30.980 back with Stu.
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00:52:06.760 both, Stu.
00:52:07.500 So just one final note
00:52:10.740 on Lindsey Graham.
00:52:11.600 I do find it interesting
00:52:12.380 because after all the guff
00:52:13.780 he's been getting from,
00:52:15.800 I mean,
00:52:16.040 it's all over the right wing.
00:52:17.520 It's not just the people
00:52:18.900 who have questions
00:52:19.360 about this war.
00:52:20.280 It's like he's been
00:52:21.280 being universally panned
00:52:22.420 as a deep problem
00:52:23.640 when it comes to
00:52:24.780 becoming a face
00:52:26.160 of the administration.
00:52:27.100 My God,
00:52:28.120 Trump is too smart for that.
00:52:30.320 But there is now a report
00:52:32.240 that in the wake of him
00:52:33.860 getting criticized
00:52:34.440 for his bloodlust,
00:52:35.800 he pushed back slightly
00:52:37.440 on what Israel
00:52:39.340 is doing in Iran.
00:52:41.320 Namely,
00:52:43.500 he's,
00:52:44.480 they're targeting
00:52:45.260 the oil depots.
00:52:47.380 And doing that,
00:52:48.800 the fuel depots,
00:52:49.600 has led to
00:52:50.560 black oil rain
00:52:52.940 coming down on Tehran
00:52:55.120 on the faces of babies
00:52:56.580 and children
00:52:57.400 and civilians
00:52:58.500 who are complaining
00:52:59.520 about their lips
00:53:01.440 sore,
00:53:02.100 raw,
00:53:02.720 they feel like burns,
00:53:04.200 feels like diluted
00:53:04.840 tear gas in the air,
00:53:06.340 eyes irritated,
00:53:07.460 headaches.
00:53:08.420 I mean,
00:53:08.620 God only knows
00:53:09.180 what the toxic fallout
00:53:10.160 of this is going to be
00:53:11.320 for the Iranian people
00:53:12.960 whom we are trying to help.
00:53:14.280 Let's not forget,
00:53:15.180 we're trying to help
00:53:15.900 the Iranian people.
00:53:16.660 It's the regime
00:53:17.140 with whom we have a problem.
00:53:18.740 And finally,
00:53:19.300 Lindsey Graham comes out 0.99
00:53:20.060 and says,
00:53:20.480 this was all Israel,
00:53:22.600 saying,
00:53:23.260 our allies in Israel
00:53:24.040 have shown amazing capability
00:53:25.560 when it comes to collapsing
00:53:26.600 the murderous regime
00:53:27.960 in Iran.
00:53:28.620 America is most appreciative.
00:53:30.540 This is Graham on X.
00:53:31.920 However,
00:53:32.240 there will be a day soon
00:53:33.200 that the Iranian people
00:53:34.020 will be in charge
00:53:34.660 of their own fate,
00:53:35.360 not the murderous
00:53:35.980 Ayatollah's regime.
00:53:36.840 In that regard,
00:53:37.780 please be cautious
00:53:38.380 about what targets you select.
00:53:40.360 Our goal is to liberate
00:53:41.380 the Iranian people
00:53:42.140 in a fashion
00:53:42.600 that does not cripple 1.00
00:53:43.380 their chance
00:53:43.820 to start a new
00:53:44.380 and better life
00:53:44.960 when this regime collapses.
00:53:46.500 The oil economy of Iran
00:53:47.940 will be essential
00:53:48.700 to that endeavor.
00:53:50.820 Yashara Ali,
00:53:51.500 who's an Iranian-American,
00:53:52.760 writes,
00:53:53.100 you know how badly
00:53:53.880 you have to mess up
00:53:54.640 to get Lindsey Graham,
00:53:56.080 who gets his preferred
00:53:57.120 pornographic material
00:53:58.140 from drone strike footage
00:53:59.280 instead of OnlyFans
00:54:00.300 to say you should be
00:54:01.560 more careful,
00:54:02.960 making the point
00:54:03.620 that the Israelis
00:54:04.400 have gone too far.
00:54:06.280 They've gone too far.
00:54:07.100 There was a report
00:54:07.660 that a desalinization plant
00:54:10.260 had been hit,
00:54:11.380 which is deeply problematic,
00:54:13.240 if true,
00:54:13.660 because now you're talking
00:54:14.340 about the water supply
00:54:15.260 to the people,
00:54:16.040 and that's an absolute must
00:54:17.620 for life,
00:54:19.400 never mind for wellness.
00:54:20.620 There's no question
00:54:23.480 that the United States
00:54:24.220 is trying to be careful,
00:54:25.180 and I assume Israel
00:54:26.040 is trying to be careful too,
00:54:27.260 but that's a massive mess up
00:54:29.460 to cause that situation
00:54:31.220 in Tehran
00:54:32.020 to the point where
00:54:32.800 babies are getting showered
00:54:34.900 in oil
00:54:35.800 and toxic gas fumes.
00:54:37.280 That's not okay.
00:54:38.840 And then there's the matter
00:54:39.780 of the girls' school,
00:54:40.780 Stu,
00:54:41.020 which has been bombed,
00:54:42.340 170 dead,
00:54:44.560 and,
00:54:45.040 I mean,
00:54:45.880 that is just heartbreaking,
00:54:47.560 the pictures of the children
00:54:48.780 killed in this school.
00:54:50.820 It was on the first day
00:54:51.700 of the bombings.
00:54:52.720 Now the Wall Street Journal
00:54:53.640 is reporting that
00:54:54.820 they believe
00:54:56.180 that the intel suggests
00:54:57.340 it was the United States.
00:55:00.160 Pete Hegseth has said,
00:55:01.380 we are investigating,
00:55:02.740 and President Trump
00:55:03.520 in an interview said
00:55:04.600 he doesn't believe it was us.
00:55:07.660 Laura Ingram of Fox News,
00:55:09.540 among others,
00:55:10.040 saying if this was us,
00:55:11.300 we need to own it,
00:55:12.340 and we need to apologize.
00:55:13.760 There is zero chance
00:55:15.080 the United States
00:55:15.740 would ever intentionally hit
00:55:18.320 a school of children.
00:55:20.080 Zero.
00:55:21.020 We do not do
00:55:22.220 that kind of thing.
00:55:23.260 But there is a possibility
00:55:24.660 that we did it inadvertently
00:55:26.180 as the Wall Street Journal
00:55:27.060 appears to be reporting.
00:55:28.960 The point is
00:55:29.780 there's fallout to war
00:55:31.780 and it's ugly
00:55:33.140 and it's heartbreaking
00:55:34.160 and leads me back
00:55:35.520 to the same place,
00:55:36.260 which is
00:55:36.620 let's declare this a win
00:55:38.740 and get out. 0.83
00:55:40.400 The Ayatollah's dead.
00:55:41.920 Many in the top
00:55:42.580 of the regime are dead.
00:55:44.340 We've given Iran 1.00
00:55:45.100 a fighting chance
00:55:45.940 to fight for its future.
00:55:47.260 We're, you know,
00:55:48.620 I don't know.
00:55:50.800 Somebody's going to have
00:55:51.400 to help them with guns
00:55:52.200 because the IRGC
00:55:53.180 is not just going to roll over
00:55:54.140 at this point
00:55:54.600 from the look of it.
00:55:55.660 Maybe it's not us.
00:55:56.360 Maybe it's somebody else,
00:55:57.140 ideally,
00:55:57.560 but some bad things
00:55:59.380 are happening.
00:55:59.900 Okay, let's get to
00:56:00.460 what's happening in New York.
00:56:02.200 So now in the wake
00:56:03.060 of all this,
00:56:05.400 you have,
00:56:06.640 I want to spell out
00:56:07.560 what happened.
00:56:08.580 This group goes
00:56:09.680 to Gracie Mansion
00:56:10.920 in New York City,
00:56:12.060 outside of Gracie Mansion,
00:56:13.300 which is where Mom Donnie 0.92
00:56:14.280 is living
00:56:15.560 and where all
00:56:16.320 New York mayors live
00:56:17.240 and they started
00:56:20.820 a protest.
00:56:21.660 Hold on,
00:56:21.900 I'm trying to look
00:56:22.380 for the name of it.
00:56:22.960 Here it is.
00:56:23.880 The Stop the Islamic 1.00
00:56:25.120 Takeover of New York City
00:56:26.980 protest
00:56:28.300 and Stop New York City
00:56:29.780 Public Muslim Prayer.
00:56:32.480 20 people showed up.
00:56:34.160 Okay,
00:56:34.380 so it's a small thing.
00:56:35.800 There's a group of people
00:56:36.520 who they don't like
00:56:37.420 the Muslim takeover 1.00
00:56:38.160 in New York
00:56:38.640 as they see it
00:56:39.720 and they're out
00:56:40.420 there protesting.
00:56:41.960 Jake Lang
00:56:43.040 was one of the participants.
00:56:44.280 He was front and center
00:56:45.320 during the Minneapolis
00:56:46.040 protest too.
00:56:46.900 He was arrested
00:56:47.980 for J6 prior to that.
00:56:51.260 The New York Post,
00:56:52.540 which is not biased
00:56:53.700 against conservatives,
00:56:54.580 writes that he is
00:56:55.440 a conservative
00:56:56.140 right-wing influencer.
00:56:57.860 That's how they describe him.
00:57:00.820 And he was definitely there
00:57:02.360 and part of that group.
00:57:03.200 Then the counter-protesters
00:57:04.300 showed up.
00:57:05.220 They called their group
00:57:06.220 Run the Nazis
00:57:07.980 out of New York City
00:57:09.420 stand against hate.
00:57:11.880 I think the Nazis 0.96
00:57:13.060 are the first group
00:57:14.620 in their view
00:57:15.740 who are opposed to,
00:57:18.060 you know,
00:57:18.620 the Muslim call to prayer
00:57:19.640 being broadcast
00:57:20.380 five times a day
00:57:21.140 in New York.
00:57:22.140 And they had about
00:57:23.280 125 protesters.
00:57:24.840 So they had way more,
00:57:26.220 five times as many
00:57:27.060 or so
00:57:28.720 than the other side.
00:57:31.280 What happened?
00:57:32.520 Two protesters
00:57:33.260 from the counter-protest
00:57:34.820 from the Stop the Nazis
00:57:36.700 rally
00:57:37.360 shouted
00:57:39.880 Allahu Akbar
00:57:40.980 and tossed
00:57:42.020 two,
00:57:42.500 count them,
00:57:42.880 two homemade devices
00:57:43.980 into a crowd.
00:57:45.280 An IED
00:57:45.940 filled with nails
00:57:47.380 that failed to go off.
00:57:49.740 And now we're getting
00:57:50.780 the police commissioner,
00:57:52.200 Jessica Tisch.
00:57:53.080 Is this cut, Deb?
00:57:54.820 Commenting on it
00:57:55.880 in particular.
00:57:56.540 Yeah, I think we have this.
00:57:57.800 And let's listen
00:57:58.820 to the police commissioner
00:57:59.600 describe
00:58:00.400 what they've discovered
00:58:01.840 so far.
00:58:02.320 I can confirm
00:58:04.120 this morning
00:58:04.660 that this is being
00:58:05.840 investigated
00:58:06.520 as an act
00:58:07.460 of ISIS-inspired
00:58:09.460 terrorism.
00:58:10.700 I can also provide
00:58:11.940 some additional
00:58:12.560 information
00:58:13.180 building on my remarks
00:58:14.360 from Saturday evening.
00:58:15.980 At that time,
00:58:16.840 we were beginning
00:58:17.720 to conduct
00:58:18.260 preliminary analysis
00:58:19.460 of two devices
00:58:20.360 that were ignited
00:58:21.620 and deployed
00:58:22.540 earlier that day.
00:58:23.720 Preliminary test results
00:58:25.340 determined that these
00:58:26.400 were not hoax devices
00:58:28.320 nor smoke bombs.
00:58:29.580 They were improvised
00:58:31.120 explosive devices
00:58:32.000 that could have caused 0.71
00:58:33.000 serious injury
00:58:34.340 or death.
00:58:35.120 Part of our initial
00:58:35.960 investigation
00:58:36.920 was to determine
00:58:38.560 what energetic
00:58:39.680 substance,
00:58:40.620 if any,
00:58:41.620 was used
00:58:42.240 in the two devices.
00:58:43.380 And our analysis
00:58:44.260 showed that
00:58:45.380 one of the devices
00:58:46.340 deployed by the subjects
00:58:47.900 contained the substance
00:58:49.720 triacetone,
00:58:50.880 triperoxide,
00:58:52.260 known as TATP.
00:58:54.620 Now, TATP
00:58:55.580 is a dangerous
00:58:56.240 and highly volatile
00:58:57.780 homemade explosive
00:58:58.880 that has been used
00:59:00.280 in IED attacks
00:59:01.540 around the world.
00:59:04.420 So both devices
00:59:05.740 were IEDs
00:59:07.220 in an act of ISIS-inspired
00:59:09.660 terrorism
00:59:10.580 right here
00:59:11.480 on the homeland
00:59:12.240 in New York City.
00:59:14.020 And this,
00:59:14.680 for the listening audience,
00:59:15.980 Zoram Mamdani
00:59:16.580 was standing right next to her
00:59:17.540 as she made those comments.
00:59:19.080 So he's heard it all.
00:59:20.320 But what we've heard
00:59:21.000 from the mayor so far
00:59:22.020 amounts to the following
00:59:23.260 post on X,
00:59:25.520 which was
00:59:26.140 a day after the attacks.
00:59:27.800 The attacks happened
00:59:28.700 on Saturday.
00:59:29.760 Thank God, by the way,
00:59:30.420 they did not detonate
00:59:31.280 and nobody was hurt.
00:59:32.240 Thank God.
00:59:33.860 But they could have,
00:59:34.740 easily could have.
00:59:35.360 I mean,
00:59:35.660 it's basically a nail bomb.
00:59:37.560 And a day passes
00:59:39.400 and he posts
00:59:40.000 the following on Sunday.
00:59:41.440 I'm going to read it in full
00:59:42.240 because it's so outrageous.
00:59:44.760 Yesterday, 0.98
00:59:46.160 white supremacist
00:59:47.400 Jake Lang
00:59:48.160 organized a protest
00:59:50.440 outside Gracie Mansion
00:59:52.020 rooted in bigotry
00:59:53.620 and racism.
00:59:54.520 Such hate
00:59:55.740 has no place
00:59:56.460 in New York City.
00:59:57.600 It is an affront
00:59:58.440 to our city's values
00:59:59.400 and the unity
00:59:59.920 that defines who we are.
01:00:01.840 Okay,
01:00:02.120 so first of all,
01:00:02.760 he's begun with
01:00:03.700 white supremacy,
01:00:05.080 alleged white supremacy. 0.84
01:00:06.700 He's literally
01:00:08.300 just seen police
01:00:09.400 who are
01:00:09.880 on the receiving end
01:00:11.140 of that bomb throw
01:00:12.020 attacked
01:00:13.620 with an IED.
01:00:15.300 And his lead is,
01:00:16.920 there's someone
01:00:17.240 I consider to be
01:00:17.900 a white supremacist
01:00:18.740 outside of Gracie Mansion
01:00:19.720 and that's bigotry
01:00:21.200 and racism
01:00:21.660 and has no place
01:00:22.380 in New York City.
01:00:22.840 Then he gets to
01:00:24.340 the second piece,
01:00:25.300 which is obviously
01:00:25.900 the most important
01:00:26.780 and completely whiffs
01:00:29.520 on who did what
01:00:31.720 to whom
01:00:32.320 and who said what
01:00:33.840 as they did it.
01:00:35.220 Like Allahu Akbar.
01:00:37.100 All right,
01:00:37.340 he writes,
01:00:38.840 violence at a protest.
01:00:39.760 This is,
01:00:40.120 he goes right from,
01:00:41.660 okay,
01:00:41.980 it's an affront
01:00:43.120 to our city's values
01:00:43.780 and the unity
01:00:44.180 that defines who we are.
01:00:45.160 What followed
01:00:45.920 was even more disturbing,
01:00:48.340 but he doesn't say it,
01:00:49.480 like who did it
01:00:50.060 and what they yelled.
01:00:51.220 Violence at a protest.
01:00:52.840 Is never acceptable.
01:00:54.720 The attempt to use
01:00:55.680 an explosive device
01:00:56.680 and hurt others
01:00:57.420 is not only criminal,
01:00:58.860 it's reprehensible
01:00:59.500 and the antithesis
01:01:00.820 of who we are.
01:01:02.120 I want to thank
01:01:02.680 the brave men and women
01:01:03.500 of the NYPD
01:01:04.460 who acted quickly
01:01:05.340 to help keep New Yorkers safe.
01:01:06.880 Where is the part
01:01:08.200 about ISIS-inspired terrorists
01:01:11.280 shouting Allahu Akbar,
01:01:14.000 throwing an IED
01:01:15.800 at cops?
01:01:17.620 We have video
01:01:18.520 of one of the devices
01:01:19.780 and of the moment.
01:01:21.560 Let's watch it.
01:01:23.000 Sat 6.
01:01:23.780 It's right there
01:01:35.900 on camera.
01:01:37.340 You can see the guy
01:01:38.000 run,
01:01:38.780 throw the bomb 1.00
01:01:39.740 and shout 0.99
01:01:40.420 Allahu Akbar.
01:01:41.460 There's another video
01:01:42.340 that's similar
01:01:43.580 and
01:01:44.920 yeah,
01:01:48.000 wait a minute,
01:01:48.660 is that,
01:01:49.100 here he is?
01:01:49.580 Oh my God,
01:01:50.000 I'm sorry, Stu.
01:01:51.940 Mamdani did speak
01:01:53.360 this morning
01:01:54.040 next to Tish
01:01:55.900 and let's check in
01:01:58.020 to see if he got
01:01:59.840 to Allahu Akbar,
01:02:02.000 ISIS-inspired,
01:02:03.500 IED,
01:02:04.960 thrown at cops.
01:02:06.780 On Saturday,
01:02:08.140 a protest was held
01:02:09.380 outside Gracie Mansion
01:02:10.560 where I live
01:02:11.600 with my wife, Rama.
01:02:13.280 Neither of us
01:02:14.120 were home at the time.
01:02:16.400 This was a vile protest
01:02:18.240 rooted in white supremacy 0.53
01:02:19.340 entitled 0.90
01:02:19.860 Stop the Islamic Takeover 1.00
01:02:21.400 of New York City.
01:02:23.340 I'm the first Muslim mayor
01:02:24.760 of our city. 0.89
01:02:26.600 Anti-Muslim bigotry
01:02:27.540 is nothing new to me
01:02:29.080 nor is it anything new
01:02:30.080 for the one million
01:02:30.860 or so Muslim New Yorkers
01:02:32.760 who know this city
01:02:33.400 as our home.
01:02:34.760 While I found
01:02:35.640 this protest appalling,
01:02:37.420 I will not waver
01:02:38.220 in my belief
01:02:38.820 that it should be
01:02:39.380 allowed to happen.
01:02:41.140 Oh my God.
01:02:42.500 And then,
01:02:42.960 then he went on
01:02:43.860 to say the following.
01:02:45.180 Many of the
01:02:45.900 counter-protesters
01:02:46.960 met this display
01:02:48.920 of bigotry
01:02:49.760 peacefully
01:02:50.480 with a vision
01:02:51.580 of a city
01:02:52.040 that is welcoming
01:02:52.680 to all.
01:02:53.660 But a few did not.
01:02:55.460 Two men,
01:02:56.120 Amir Balot
01:02:56.820 and Ibrahim Kalumni,
01:03:00.300 Kailumi,
01:03:01.920 traveled from Pennsylvania
01:03:03.340 and attempted
01:03:03.860 to bring violence
01:03:04.720 to New York City.
01:03:05.900 They are suspected
01:03:06.680 of coming here
01:03:07.260 to commit an act
01:03:08.220 of terrorism.
01:03:09.460 There is video
01:03:10.040 of these two individuals
01:03:11.120 throwing two devices
01:03:12.560 toward the protest.
01:03:14.240 No,
01:03:14.820 nothing about an IED.
01:03:15.900 nothing about
01:03:17.420 Allahu Akbar
01:03:18.960 and nothing about
01:03:20.260 the cops being
01:03:20.940 on the receiving end
01:03:21.840 of those devices.
01:03:23.320 He can't bring himself
01:03:24.820 to say it still
01:03:26.780 and to deny
01:03:28.780 what that was
01:03:29.560 actually about
01:03:30.360 is to endanger
01:03:31.640 everyone in New York City.
01:03:35.500 Yeah,
01:03:36.120 I mean,
01:03:36.420 I don't know about you,
01:03:37.500 Megan,
01:03:37.620 I'm very concerned
01:03:38.360 if there's someone
01:03:38.880 throwing devices
01:03:39.620 into crowds.
01:03:40.540 Are people getting
01:03:41.120 a hit in the head
01:03:41.620 with iPads?
01:03:42.440 Like,
01:03:42.580 I don't know
01:03:43.240 thank you so much
01:03:45.720 for your specificity there.
01:03:48.020 It's funny too,
01:03:48.960 I mean,
01:03:49.600 I don't know anything
01:03:50.280 about the group
01:03:50.840 that was protesting
01:03:52.040 there initially.
01:03:53.180 I mean,
01:03:53.400 you see how the media
01:03:55.100 is treating them
01:03:56.020 and I have no idea
01:03:57.420 who they are
01:03:58.040 or what they believe.
01:03:59.580 But the speech part
01:04:00.820 of it is the part
01:04:01.460 that we defend,
01:04:02.460 not the other side
01:04:03.900 of it,
01:04:04.280 not the side
01:04:04.880 of people
01:04:06.160 who are throwing
01:04:07.020 bombs
01:04:07.840 into a crowd. 0.75
01:04:09.000 And I'm,
01:04:10.140 I mean,
01:04:10.760 I will say
01:04:11.460 it's understandable
01:04:12.380 to be confused
01:04:13.300 in a moment like this.
01:04:14.540 You have,
01:04:15.220 apparently,
01:04:16.020 the side 0.78
01:04:17.300 that hates Jews 0.99
01:04:18.480 and is being violent 0.99
01:04:19.740 is the Stop the Nazi
01:04:21.740 Movement.
01:04:23.920 That's,
01:04:24.680 we're supposed to believe
01:04:26.200 the people throwing
01:04:26.980 bombs into the crowds
01:04:28.060 of the Stop the Nazi
01:04:29.580 Movement.
01:04:30.760 It makes you really,
01:04:32.120 like,
01:04:32.320 what side am I on?
01:04:33.860 Like,
01:04:34.360 it's very confusing.
01:04:37.240 Like,
01:04:37.520 he,
01:04:37.780 you know,
01:04:38.020 it's funny because
01:04:38.640 he just can't,
01:04:40.400 this is a core tenet
01:04:41.780 of who Mamdani is,
01:04:43.000 right?
01:04:43.260 Mamdani has a lot
01:04:44.580 more in common
01:04:45.280 as we've seen
01:04:46.580 many,
01:04:47.240 many,
01:04:47.480 many times
01:04:48.060 with the people
01:04:48.800 who were protesting
01:04:51.020 the protesters,
01:04:52.140 shall we say.
01:04:53.140 He's not mentioning
01:04:54.100 Allahu Akbar
01:04:54.740 because those are
01:04:55.320 his favorite words.
01:04:56.900 Yeah,
01:04:57.060 right.
01:04:57.580 Yeah,
01:04:58.060 he didn't mention
01:04:58.900 the names initially
01:04:59.880 as well
01:05:00.960 because,
01:05:01.900 you know,
01:05:02.200 the idea is,
01:05:03.300 oh gosh,
01:05:03.820 well,
01:05:04.580 there's a bunch
01:05:05.540 of Nazis 0.83
01:05:06.040 in the street
01:05:07.260 and,
01:05:08.200 you know,
01:05:08.380 for a long time
01:05:09.280 and this is a sentiment
01:05:10.480 that Mamdani himself
01:05:11.880 on social media
01:05:12.960 has sort of shown
01:05:14.440 against both,
01:05:16.000 you know,
01:05:17.060 people he sees
01:05:18.300 as Nazis 0.76
01:05:19.060 but also even
01:05:19.860 police officers
01:05:20.820 back in the day
01:05:21.460 that it's kind of like,
01:05:22.520 okay,
01:05:22.720 when bad things happen
01:05:23.660 to them.
01:05:24.160 If we see an officer
01:05:25.060 crying in his car
01:05:26.100 after God,
01:05:26.700 maybe his partner
01:05:27.620 was killed,
01:05:28.740 oh,
01:05:29.060 well,
01:05:29.400 you know,
01:05:29.560 there's good things
01:05:30.220 going on in the world.
01:05:31.820 This is kind of the guy
01:05:32.840 he is.
01:05:33.360 Now he is,
01:05:34.520 and I think,
01:05:35.040 you know,
01:05:35.280 you've probably seen
01:05:35.960 this as well,
01:05:36.560 Megan,
01:05:36.960 you know,
01:05:37.180 being in New York,
01:05:39.740 if you're there at all,
01:05:41.200 I was there last week.
01:05:42.500 The dude is everywhere.
01:05:43.940 He's on every billboard.
01:05:45.260 He's in every cab
01:05:46.140 constantly talking to you 1.00
01:05:47.400 with that stupid smile 1.00
01:05:48.580 of his. 1.00
01:05:49.180 He makes Christy Noe
01:05:50.360 look shy.
01:05:55.300 Wow.
01:05:56.040 Because that,
01:05:56.760 that takes some doing.
01:05:58.380 And you're right.
01:05:59.100 He's everywhere.
01:06:00.120 And this is a strategy
01:06:01.220 for him,
01:06:01.920 is to take a guy
01:06:02.840 with beliefs
01:06:04.280 that are way out
01:06:05.640 of the mainstream. 0.61
01:06:06.580 Even for insane New Yorkers, 0.85
01:06:08.200 I can say this, 0.95
01:06:08.900 I was bored in New York. 0.97
01:06:10.100 Even for insane New Yorkers, 0.88
01:06:11.400 he's way out of the mainstream 0.94
01:06:12.420 of that group.
01:06:13.640 And he thinks he can
01:06:14.800 kind of paper over that
01:06:16.060 with a nice big smile.
01:06:17.720 As long as he smiles enough
01:06:18.920 and is like,
01:06:19.460 you know,
01:06:19.780 hanging out with kids
01:06:20.700 and laughing at what they say
01:06:21.920 at the kindergartners,
01:06:23.020 people will go along
01:06:23.840 with what he believes.
01:06:25.420 The core of him is dark.
01:06:26.960 I mean,
01:06:27.160 this is a guy
01:06:28.560 who believes
01:06:29.020 these really terrible things.
01:06:31.040 People around him
01:06:32.360 might even be worse.
01:06:34.160 He's choosing them 0.90
01:06:35.280 with an incredible amount
01:06:36.460 of frequency.
01:06:36.900 There's no question
01:06:37.680 he is surrounded
01:06:38.340 by anti-Semites.
01:06:39.680 There's just,
01:06:40.380 there's no question,
01:06:41.420 long proven anti-Semites.
01:06:43.960 It's like,
01:06:45.240 and that,
01:06:46.180 of course,
01:06:46.720 is one of the reasons
01:06:47.620 why he won't point out
01:06:49.100 what this was,
01:06:50.160 that this is radical 0.99
01:06:51.200 Muslim terrorism. 0.99
01:06:53.680 That's what this was. 1.00
01:06:54.460 This is a radical 0.85
01:06:55.880 Islamic terrorist attack 0.67
01:06:58.760 on the people
01:07:00.320 of New York City.
01:07:01.140 That's what this was,
01:07:02.260 including cops.
01:07:03.480 And he will be aided
01:07:05.080 and is being aided
01:07:06.060 currently in that
01:07:06.820 by the media,
01:07:07.500 as you point out.
01:07:08.100 There's New York Times.
01:07:08.820 Here's the headline.
01:07:10.100 U.S. authorities
01:07:10.740 are investigating
01:07:11.720 device thrown
01:07:13.080 near Gracie Mansion.
01:07:15.340 Well,
01:07:15.660 now that omits
01:07:16.440 some key details,
01:07:17.520 doesn't it,
01:07:17.860 New York Times?
01:07:18.600 Here's NBC,
01:07:20.080 local.
01:07:21.040 Mayor Mamdani
01:07:21.740 was not at home
01:07:22.780 when protesters
01:07:23.940 lit device
01:07:25.180 outside Gracie Mansion.
01:07:26.680 I mean,
01:07:27.580 to your point,
01:07:28.220 they could have
01:07:28.540 set an iPad on fire.
01:07:29.700 I wouldn't know
01:07:30.580 any different
01:07:31.100 from that headline.
01:07:32.080 And then there's
01:07:32.620 GB News.
01:07:33.620 That's our friends
01:07:34.680 across the pond
01:07:35.320 who are more
01:07:35.700 fair and balanced.
01:07:37.180 They're a relatively
01:07:38.520 new cable outlet
01:07:39.240 over there.
01:07:40.300 They managed
01:07:40.940 to get it right.
01:07:41.840 How'd they get it right?
01:07:42.840 They're not even American. 1.00
01:07:44.160 How did they get
01:07:44.940 a better headline
01:07:45.500 than the New York Times
01:07:46.640 has happened
01:07:47.120 in New York City?
01:07:47.940 Here's the GB News
01:07:48.920 headline.
01:07:50.320 Terror probe
01:07:51.020 launched
01:07:51.480 after ISIS fanatics
01:07:52.960 hurled bomb
01:07:53.900 near New York City
01:07:54.860 mayor's home.
01:07:55.760 Boom.
01:07:56.240 There it is.
01:07:56.860 It's not that hard,
01:07:57.840 NBC and New York Times.
01:08:00.280 Yeah.
01:08:01.260 One thing you can do
01:08:02.380 is tell the story.
01:08:03.640 This is supposed to be
01:08:04.400 a very basic part
01:08:05.420 of journalism.
01:08:06.200 You just tell the story
01:08:07.220 and you let people know
01:08:09.220 what the facts are.
01:08:10.780 And you don't,
01:08:11.640 you know,
01:08:12.080 it's not your responsibility
01:08:13.260 as a journalist
01:08:14.360 to win for your side,
01:08:16.520 right?
01:08:16.780 Like,
01:08:17.000 this has been
01:08:17.360 the temptation
01:08:17.880 of journalists
01:08:18.660 for a very long time
01:08:19.820 in that,
01:08:20.240 like,
01:08:20.540 you know,
01:08:20.700 they don't tell you
01:08:21.200 the Hunter Biden story
01:08:22.060 because it might
01:08:23.240 allow people
01:08:24.340 to vote
01:08:25.520 for this guy
01:08:26.460 that we don't,
01:08:27.240 we all don't want,
01:08:28.440 right?
01:08:28.600 We all understand
01:08:29.680 that would be bad
01:08:30.560 for the country.
01:08:31.080 We have to be protected
01:08:31.140 from our bad instincts.
01:08:33.040 Exactly.
01:08:33.640 We have to protect
01:08:34.360 the American people.
01:08:35.640 This is a very
01:08:36.060 progressive instinct,
01:08:37.520 right?
01:08:37.740 When you're a progressive,
01:08:38.600 you go back
01:08:38.940 to the early 20th century
01:08:40.700 progressives,
01:08:41.500 this is kind of
01:08:42.000 their staple,
01:08:43.060 right?
01:08:43.280 It was that the American 1.00
01:08:44.180 people are too dumb. 1.00
01:08:45.680 They need to be led. 1.00
01:08:46.800 We need to be
01:08:47.640 the herders of sheep.
01:08:49.340 They're not going
01:08:49.680 to be able
01:08:50.040 to understand
01:08:50.680 and do the right thing,
01:08:51.860 even if they might
01:08:52.480 have the best intentions.
01:08:54.000 They're overtaken
01:08:57.040 by their hatred,
01:08:58.200 by their bigotry.
01:08:59.860 You know,
01:08:59.980 this is a sentiment
01:09:00.760 that Barack Obama
01:09:01.920 in 2008,
01:09:04.240 you know,
01:09:04.720 clearly tried
01:09:06.020 to get across.
01:09:06.760 You know,
01:09:06.840 people were,
01:09:07.600 they've got the,
01:09:08.280 you know,
01:09:08.520 their scary belief
01:09:09.340 in guns and immigrants 0.96
01:09:10.560 that are bad
01:09:11.400 and all these terrible things
01:09:12.500 and we can't trust them.
01:09:13.800 We have to help them
01:09:14.540 get over that thing
01:09:16.560 that they have
01:09:17.460 as if it's some sort
01:09:18.320 of ailment.
01:09:19.520 You know,
01:09:20.020 people believe
01:09:20.880 what they believe.
01:09:21.660 It's not your job
01:09:22.360 as a journalist
01:09:22.960 to try to direct them
01:09:25.840 toward a particular way
01:09:27.100 of viewing facts.
01:09:28.340 It's your job
01:09:28.820 to bring them the facts.
01:09:30.660 It's amazing to me
01:09:31.460 because the New York Times
01:09:33.200 now,
01:09:33.600 like most Democrats,
01:09:34.680 is very anti-Israel.
01:09:36.880 So they will print,
01:09:38.280 you know,
01:09:39.180 all the bad things
01:09:40.020 about Israel
01:09:40.580 in connection
01:09:41.180 with this war,
01:09:42.260 for example.
01:09:43.280 But two minutes
01:09:44.960 spent looking at
01:09:46.060 clearly ISIS-inspired terror
01:09:48.540 in its own hometown
01:09:50.120 and it's a mystery.
01:09:52.100 It's a,
01:09:52.340 I mean,
01:09:52.480 what they posted
01:09:52.980 over the weekend,
01:09:53.540 their headline
01:09:53.820 over the weekend
01:09:54.340 after it happened,
01:09:55.620 after,
01:09:56.400 after it was determined
01:09:57.260 that these were bombs
01:09:58.020 by the,
01:09:58.640 by the New York Times,
01:09:59.920 or by the NYPD.
01:10:02.300 And by the way,
01:10:03.000 like Tish,
01:10:04.620 the police commissioner,
01:10:06.900 she didn't make 0.71
01:10:07.300 any bones about it.
01:10:08.200 Like she talked about how,
01:10:09.520 trying to find the,
01:10:10.140 the concoction,
01:10:11.760 she said,
01:10:12.060 yeah, 0.98
01:10:12.320 this mother of Satan 0.96
01:10:14.180 is what the New York Post 0.71
01:10:16.040 reported,
01:10:16.960 she described it.
01:10:17.760 She said,
01:10:18.060 sports drink bottles
01:10:18.960 filled with
01:10:19.880 triacetone triperoxide
01:10:23.080 or TATP,
01:10:24.120 you heard her reference it there
01:10:24.980 in today's conference,
01:10:26.080 a substance favored by terrorists
01:10:27.400 and known as mother of Satan,
01:10:28.980 which is so volatile
01:10:30.120 that it typically
01:10:30.760 does not require a fuse
01:10:31.820 to go off.
01:10:32.500 That was already known,
01:10:33.820 was already being reported
01:10:34.840 that these were bombs
01:10:36.140 and this is what
01:10:37.060 the New York Times
01:10:37.520 originally went with.
01:10:39.080 Smoking jars of metal
01:10:40.160 and fuses
01:10:40.720 thrown at protests
01:10:42.140 near Mayer's house.
01:10:43.100 What would be another word
01:10:45.080 for smoking jars
01:10:46.660 of metal and fuses
01:10:48.760 with a bunch of
01:10:49.860 self-igniting 0.99
01:10:51.040 mother of Satan
01:10:52.300 chemicals inside,
01:10:53.540 Stu?
01:10:53.760 I'm just trying to think.
01:10:56.180 Can you think of anything?
01:10:57.480 The likes they will
01:10:58.960 go to.
01:11:00.220 I mean,
01:11:00.520 it's just absolutely
01:11:02.580 incredible.
01:11:03.660 It's like,
01:11:03.940 we have a circular
01:11:04.660 piece of dough
01:11:05.560 with tomato sauce
01:11:06.560 and cheese
01:11:07.100 on top of it.
01:11:08.100 What's another term
01:11:09.260 for it?
01:11:10.820 They got a bunch
01:11:11.800 of pizzas.
01:11:13.360 I don't know
01:11:15.260 that this fools people.
01:11:16.840 I think there might
01:11:17.940 be a part of this
01:11:19.300 that allows
01:11:20.280 their audience
01:11:21.880 to get over
01:11:23.600 the hump
01:11:24.180 that their side
01:11:25.200 is doing things
01:11:26.240 that are terrible,
01:11:26.900 right?
01:11:29.040 It's easy to call
01:11:30.000 anyone related
01:11:30.580 to Donald Trump 0.80
01:11:31.160 a white supremacist 0.98
01:11:32.100 without any thought 0.88
01:11:33.120 because they
01:11:34.000 are against affirmative
01:11:35.440 action or something. 0.93
01:11:36.460 They're a white supremacist. 0.90
01:11:38.020 And their audience 0.72
01:11:38.820 never really questioned that.
01:11:40.360 Obviously,
01:11:40.740 if you don't agree
01:11:41.280 with us on these issues,
01:11:42.240 you're bad. 1.00
01:11:42.960 You're a Nazi. 1.00
01:11:43.600 You're a white supremacist. 1.00
01:11:45.320 With their side, 0.96
01:11:46.160 when there's things
01:11:46.920 like the word bomb
01:11:48.300 is really hard
01:11:49.260 to be on the right
01:11:50.100 side of it,
01:11:50.880 right?
01:11:51.060 And especially
01:11:52.820 in a domestic context,
01:11:55.620 right?
01:11:55.840 If you're talking
01:11:56.500 about throwing a bomb
01:11:57.660 into a crowd,
01:11:59.540 there's almost no way
01:12:01.020 to present that
01:12:02.380 as the right activity.
01:12:03.640 So they just try
01:12:04.240 to dismantle it.
01:12:05.120 I mean,
01:12:05.520 really dismantle
01:12:06.720 what occurred.
01:12:08.040 Make it seem like
01:12:09.280 it's either an iPad
01:12:10.600 or a jar with fuses
01:12:12.040 and maybe it doesn't
01:12:13.940 sound as offensive.
01:12:16.240 I don't know.
01:12:16.960 They know their audience
01:12:17.620 better than I do,
01:12:18.400 I guess,
01:12:18.700 because to me,
01:12:19.960 that wouldn't help
01:12:20.880 at all.
01:12:21.380 I would see right
01:12:22.180 through that immediately
01:12:22.920 and I would see
01:12:23.420 through it on our side.
01:12:24.640 They're on the,
01:12:25.420 the New York Times
01:12:26.220 is on the side
01:12:27.420 of the ISIS
01:12:29.580 throwing device,
01:12:31.420 the ISIS device 0.92
01:12:32.460 throwing people.
01:12:33.400 I just think
01:12:34.040 they're at some level,
01:12:35.660 they've always been
01:12:36.120 more sympathetic to them
01:12:37.040 in recent history anyway,
01:12:38.260 once, you know,
01:12:38.960 they're not in favor
01:12:39.960 of Israel.
01:12:40.760 So they're like,
01:12:41.600 okay,
01:12:41.820 and they're certainly
01:12:42.180 not in favor
01:12:42.740 of white supremacists.
01:12:43.680 So they're like,
01:12:44.340 okay, yeah,
01:12:45.360 these are bad people.
01:12:46.880 And we're on
01:12:48.680 the side
01:12:48.940 of the counter-protests
01:12:50.020 and because it was
01:12:50.960 two of the so-called
01:12:51.680 counter-protesters,
01:12:53.120 aka terrorists here,
01:12:55.180 they're confused
01:12:56.720 on what to do.
01:12:57.840 It's like,
01:12:58.240 wait a minute,
01:13:00.860 we're kind of
01:13:02.040 more sympathetic
01:13:02.480 to their side,
01:13:03.360 but they threw bombs,
01:13:05.020 so that's bad.
01:13:05.840 Maybe we can downplay
01:13:06.640 the bomb right
01:13:07.520 into being not a bomb
01:13:08.620 and this not being
01:13:09.780 about Allahu Akbar
01:13:10.700 or ISIS.
01:13:11.640 I mean,
01:13:11.820 that's why,
01:13:13.520 like,
01:13:13.720 back to my point,
01:13:14.440 you're going to have
01:13:14.920 to buckle up
01:13:16.120 until this whole
01:13:17.720 Iran thing is over 0.99
01:13:18.460 because the media,
01:13:20.080 they don't know
01:13:20.660 what to do,
01:13:21.640 right?
01:13:21.920 Like,
01:13:22.580 they're all over
01:13:24.440 the place.
01:13:25.360 They're against Israel, 0.90
01:13:26.880 so now they're
01:13:27.580 pro-domestic terror
01:13:29.240 attacks?
01:13:30.100 Like,
01:13:30.840 not it,
01:13:32.580 New York Times.
01:13:33.620 Try again.
01:13:34.720 You can have questions
01:13:35.480 about the war
01:13:36.060 and still say terror
01:13:37.620 at home is bad.
01:13:38.860 Work on it.
01:13:39.540 Work on it.
01:13:39.980 Try a little harder.
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01:15:55.600 Hey everyone,
01:16:00.640 it's me,
01:16:01.060 Megan Kelly.
01:16:01.720 I've got some exciting news.
01:16:03.920 I now have my very own channel
01:16:05.520 on Sirius XM.
01:16:07.100 It's called
01:16:07.400 the Megan Kelly Channel
01:16:08.320 and it is where
01:16:08.980 you will hear the truth
01:16:10.040 unfiltered,
01:16:10.880 with no agenda
01:16:11.700 and no apologies.
01:16:13.240 Along with
01:16:13.640 the Megan Kelly Show,
01:16:14.400 you're going to hear
01:16:14.780 from people like
01:16:15.480 Mark Halperin,
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01:16:17.440 Maureen Callahan,
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01:16:19.260 Jesse Kelly,
01:16:20.080 Real Clear Politics
01:16:20.940 and many more.
01:16:22.580 It's bold,
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01:16:24.520 Only on the Megan Kelly Channel,
01:16:26.540 Sirius XM 111
01:16:27.800 and on the Sirius XM app.
01:16:29.240 There was an interesting exchange
01:16:35.300 on Bill Maher
01:16:36.520 over the weekend.
01:16:37.980 He had
01:16:38.360 Shifty Shift,
01:16:40.020 Adam Schiff,
01:16:40.740 Senator now,
01:16:41.740 on his show
01:16:42.660 and
01:16:43.360 Maher,
01:16:44.440 I guess Adam Schiff
01:16:45.160 didn't really listen
01:16:45.840 to Maher's monologue
01:16:46.780 because Maher is in favor
01:16:47.880 of the war.
01:16:48.860 He's not in favor
01:16:49.660 of ground troops there,
01:16:50.620 which Trump continues
01:16:51.540 to leave open
01:16:52.600 as a possibility.
01:16:54.580 Please don't do that,
01:16:55.620 President Trump.
01:16:56.200 Please don't put
01:16:56.920 American boots
01:16:57.520 on the ground in Iran,
01:16:58.400 but in any event,
01:16:59.060 okay,
01:16:59.280 he's not in favor
01:16:59.900 of that,
01:17:00.640 but he is in favor
01:17:01.860 of the conflict
01:17:02.520 of the war
01:17:03.060 and he set up
01:17:06.060 a trap,
01:17:07.720 Maher did,
01:17:08.460 for Senator Schiff,
01:17:09.720 which was very interesting.
01:17:11.220 Watch this.
01:17:12.380 This statement
01:17:12.900 from the administration,
01:17:13.840 the president
01:17:14.340 had the constitutional
01:17:15.500 authority to direct
01:17:16.640 the use of military force
01:17:17.980 because he could
01:17:18.640 reasonably determine
01:17:19.720 that such use of force
01:17:21.340 was in the national interest.
01:17:22.860 That's too vague for you?
01:17:24.520 Totally vague.
01:17:25.940 Okay,
01:17:26.160 because that's from Obama.
01:17:30.220 How good is that?
01:17:32.220 I mean,
01:17:32.800 when the shoe was
01:17:33.640 on the other foot,
01:17:34.280 right,
01:17:34.500 it's all these Democrats
01:17:35.240 were defending
01:17:35.900 President Obama
01:17:37.380 and his use of the military,
01:17:38.760 his use of drones.
01:17:39.700 They had no problem.
01:17:40.320 Only now.
01:17:41.380 I'm like,
01:17:41.640 I have no patience
01:17:42.620 for the whole
01:17:43.220 this is illegal
01:17:44.660 and Trump can't do it
01:17:45.520 argument. 1.00
01:17:45.960 That's bullshit. 1.00
01:17:46.540 Where were you 1.00
01:17:46.940 when Obama was droning
01:17:48.280 American citizens?
01:17:49.820 Just take a seat,
01:17:50.720 right?
01:17:51.040 But like,
01:17:52.460 what the Democrats
01:17:53.440 are doing to the president
01:17:54.300 here is nakedly political
01:17:55.620 and I don't believe
01:17:56.900 out of deep concern
01:17:58.480 for what's best
01:17:59.380 for the country.
01:18:01.640 It's so transparent.
01:18:03.580 I mean,
01:18:03.860 it's difficult.
01:18:05.640 It really is a confusing
01:18:06.600 world out there.
01:18:07.480 You know,
01:18:07.580 I grew up my entire life
01:18:09.040 thinking of Democrats
01:18:11.500 as the ones
01:18:12.260 who had their prominent
01:18:13.080 politicians go
01:18:14.180 on their honeymoons
01:18:15.640 to the Soviet Union
01:18:16.880 and then all of a sudden
01:18:17.780 now I'm supposed
01:18:18.420 to understand
01:18:18.960 that they really
01:18:19.620 don't like Russia
01:18:20.540 and anyone
01:18:21.400 who agrees
01:18:22.440 with Russia
01:18:22.920 are the bad guys.
01:18:24.620 This stuff flips
01:18:25.520 on a seemingly
01:18:26.960 daily basis
01:18:27.980 these days
01:18:28.700 and they can't
01:18:30.240 keep track of it
01:18:31.240 because there's
01:18:32.280 no principle
01:18:32.780 behind it,
01:18:33.380 right?
01:18:33.620 Like it's so much.
01:18:35.080 It's great to watch
01:18:35.800 somebody like Bill Maher
01:18:36.520 catch one of them.
01:18:38.260 Oh,
01:18:38.540 that's so satisfying
01:18:40.880 because
01:18:41.340 they didn't have
01:18:43.160 any of these feelings.
01:18:43.980 They just had none
01:18:44.520 of this stuff
01:18:45.100 back then.
01:18:45.860 It's like,
01:18:46.860 this is why
01:18:47.320 I don't,
01:18:48.280 you know,
01:18:48.440 part of the reason
01:18:49.220 why I started
01:18:49.640 the Predictable Show,
01:18:51.080 you mentioned it earlier
01:18:51.780 to predictableshow.com
01:18:52.900 is it does
01:18:54.380 deals with these
01:18:54.960 prediction markets
01:18:55.560 that are kind of
01:18:56.100 a new thing
01:18:56.580 and one of the things
01:18:57.240 I really love about them
01:18:58.300 is they have a way
01:18:59.620 of cutting through
01:19:00.560 all this nonsense,
01:19:02.080 right?
01:19:02.660 Because people
01:19:03.380 are putting their money,
01:19:04.420 they're putting their money
01:19:05.600 where their mouth is
01:19:06.360 and most people
01:19:07.300 won't put their money
01:19:08.200 for something
01:19:09.040 that they don't
01:19:09.580 actually believe.
01:19:10.900 Yet we put people
01:19:11.640 on television constantly
01:19:13.000 that are just
01:19:14.100 tossing things out there
01:19:15.620 that are totally at odds
01:19:17.240 with what they said
01:19:17.820 on TV,
01:19:18.440 three weeks before that.
01:19:20.000 I just,
01:19:21.080 it drives me
01:19:21.840 absolutely nuts
01:19:22.920 and I think
01:19:23.980 that's a real problem
01:19:25.580 that we have.
01:19:26.360 Like,
01:19:26.540 they have made a decision,
01:19:27.740 they do have a principle
01:19:28.840 in the media,
01:19:29.380 which is they don't
01:19:29.860 like Donald Trump.
01:19:30.860 That principle,
01:19:32.020 we sometimes describe it
01:19:33.120 as TDS,
01:19:34.480 allows them to
01:19:35.480 constantly be at odds
01:19:36.880 with him,
01:19:37.320 even when I'm critical
01:19:38.460 of Donald Trump
01:19:39.000 for changing his argument.
01:19:41.180 He might make two arguments
01:19:42.380 and I say,
01:19:42.820 wait a minute,
01:19:43.220 you said this last week
01:19:44.120 and you said this this week,
01:19:44.960 they somehow are disagreeing
01:19:46.340 with him both times.
01:19:47.380 See,
01:19:48.020 this is why I like Rand Paul
01:19:50.040 so much.
01:19:50.700 I really like him.
01:19:51.880 He's one of the few lawmakers
01:19:54.100 who I really actually respect.
01:19:56.120 It's not that I agree
01:19:56.860 with all of his politics
01:19:57.820 at all.
01:19:58.420 I don't.
01:19:59.540 Some of them,
01:20:00.140 yes,
01:20:00.360 and some of them,
01:20:00.860 no,
01:20:01.020 but he knows who he is
01:20:02.580 and he votes accordingly.
01:20:03.720 He votes according
01:20:04.540 to his conscience
01:20:05.840 and the policies
01:20:07.460 that he thinks,
01:20:08.260 like his dad,
01:20:09.180 that he thinks
01:20:09.920 are actually important
01:20:10.720 for America.
01:20:11.300 And he,
01:20:12.500 you know,
01:20:12.680 President Trump can't stand
01:20:13.680 that he can't be pummeled
01:20:14.700 into submission
01:20:15.260 and I get it
01:20:15.980 and he's frustrated
01:20:16.660 a lot of Republicans
01:20:17.400 being the holdout,
01:20:18.580 but I respect it.
01:20:20.500 As an independent myself,
01:20:21.520 I respect that he's like,
01:20:23.060 this is what I stand for,
01:20:24.740 you know,
01:20:25.060 like,
01:20:25.700 and I got elected
01:20:26.560 because I have these principles
01:20:28.500 so I'm going to stand by them.
01:20:29.580 It's very rare,
01:20:30.620 much more common
01:20:31.400 is the Adam Shifty Schiff,
01:20:33.900 you know,
01:20:34.340 I mean,
01:20:34.740 playing right up to his name
01:20:36.000 in that position still,
01:20:38.300 like playing right to his name.
01:20:40.640 Very Shifty,
01:20:41.380 depending on who's doing
01:20:42.820 the absolutely terrible thing
01:20:44.300 that he can't stand.
01:20:46.020 For the listening audience,
01:20:47.100 sitting on the set
01:20:47.700 with Shifty Schiff
01:20:48.820 was Shifty Don Lamont,
01:20:51.400 who was there
01:20:52.220 to be lionized by Bill Maher.
01:20:54.060 This is the love-hate
01:20:54.800 we have with Bill,
01:20:56.160 where he completely gives Lemon
01:20:59.380 a pass on his behavior
01:21:01.060 inside that church
01:21:02.060 and I think we have
01:21:03.500 a little bit of that.
01:21:04.400 Let's watch.
01:21:05.560 There's things going on
01:21:06.700 in this country.
01:21:07.540 I'm just,
01:21:07.840 I try to keep up
01:21:09.100 with the news
01:21:09.540 and I just,
01:21:10.580 and they said
01:21:12.960 you stood in close proximity
01:21:14.860 to the pastor
01:21:15.760 in an attempt to oppress
01:21:17.060 and intimidate him. 1.00
01:21:19.180 That's some powerful bullshit 1.00
01:21:20.560 there, isn't it, Don? 1.00
01:21:21.740 I mean,
01:21:23.360 I'm glad you see it.
01:21:24.300 You can see it from the world.
01:21:24.980 No, I, I, I mean.
01:21:27.360 No, it's not, 0.99
01:21:28.400 it's not some powerful bullshit. 0.99
01:21:29.540 It's 100% true. 0.99
01:21:30.520 We had the pastor
01:21:31.060 on the show last week
01:21:32.400 talking about
01:21:33.600 the way he felt
01:21:34.420 when Don Lemon
01:21:34.980 was obviously in his space
01:21:36.580 and was clearly trying
01:21:37.600 to set up the pastor
01:21:38.860 for something dark
01:21:42.120 by saying like,
01:21:43.620 don't, don't touch me.
01:21:44.640 Lemon was like,
01:21:45.420 take your hands off me. 1.00
01:21:46.220 Don't push me.
01:21:46.920 Meanwhile, Lemon was the one
01:21:47.720 who appeared to have hands
01:21:48.480 on the pastor.
01:21:49.580 And Bill Maher,
01:21:50.580 as is so often the case
01:21:51.700 when it risks
01:21:52.320 embarrassing a Democrat,
01:21:53.500 did not do his homework
01:21:54.420 here still.
01:21:56.460 Yeah, it's funny.
01:21:57.260 I mean, Bill Maher
01:21:57.980 is an interesting guy.
01:21:59.860 He's somewhat similar
01:22:01.320 to Rand Paul in some ways
01:22:02.860 in that like he has
01:22:03.940 a well-developed ideology
01:22:05.840 that he's believed
01:22:06.560 for a long time.
01:22:07.920 And I think is arguably
01:22:09.620 pretty consistent with it
01:22:11.160 in this particular case.
01:22:12.840 And I think honestly,
01:22:13.900 the same thing
01:22:14.960 with the Middle East
01:22:15.720 is just Bill Maher
01:22:17.660 can't stand religion. 0.84
01:22:19.100 Like just generally
01:22:20.040 does not like religion.
01:22:21.420 He's written books about it.
01:22:22.960 And whenever anyone does,
01:22:24.540 right, yeah.
01:22:25.380 Yeah, that's right.
01:22:26.720 Religulous or something like that.
01:22:27.920 Religulous. 0.99
01:22:28.040 Yes, yeah, yeah.
01:22:29.980 Whenever someone
01:22:31.080 is doing something
01:22:32.080 based on religion,
01:22:33.280 he generally speaking
01:22:34.480 is always against
01:22:35.480 what they're doing.
01:22:36.640 Yes.
01:22:36.920 Which is, you know,
01:22:37.860 again, a take.
01:22:39.500 I generally speaking
01:22:41.220 agree in that
01:22:42.020 like I, a lot of people,
01:22:44.240 and there's I think
01:22:44.860 a kind of a movement
01:22:45.920 a little bit on the right.
01:22:46.900 I have friends
01:22:47.460 who are critical
01:22:48.420 of the word ideology
01:22:50.480 as a negative term.
01:22:52.420 And ideology can be
01:22:53.760 a negative term,
01:22:54.500 especially if you're applying it
01:22:55.680 without any pragmatism
01:22:57.600 or real world thinking.
01:22:59.760 You can't just be ideological.
01:23:01.920 But like,
01:23:02.620 can we save a little love
01:23:04.020 for ideology
01:23:04.840 just from the perspective
01:23:06.320 of it's a collection
01:23:07.420 of beliefs
01:23:08.320 that make sense
01:23:09.120 with each other?
01:23:10.100 Right?
01:23:10.260 Like we've abandoned this idea.
01:23:12.080 Now it's just like,
01:23:12.760 oh, just take any section
01:23:14.080 of beliefs,
01:23:14.580 anything you want
01:23:15.260 from around the world,
01:23:16.100 anything that gets you
01:23:17.460 through the day.
01:23:18.540 Say what you have to do
01:23:19.760 on TV,
01:23:20.880 on the Senate floor
01:23:21.980 that gets you
01:23:22.960 through that moment.
01:23:23.880 And the second you need
01:23:24.840 to reverse it,
01:23:25.540 you get to reverse it.
01:23:26.480 I can't stand that world.
01:23:28.700 Like, that doesn't
01:23:29.900 help me at all.
01:23:30.940 It doesn't help me
01:23:31.620 as a viewer.
01:23:32.240 It doesn't help me
01:23:32.580 as a listener to a podcast.
01:23:33.760 It doesn't help me
01:23:34.380 certainly as an American citizen
01:23:35.640 that has to watch
01:23:36.240 these politicians
01:23:36.880 do it constantly.
01:23:38.440 So I'm with you on that.
01:23:40.160 I like the people,
01:23:41.480 you know,
01:23:42.340 more like Rand Paul
01:23:44.280 or Bill Maher,
01:23:45.140 who, you know,
01:23:45.660 even though I totally disagree
01:23:47.120 with Bill Maher
01:23:48.100 on the issue of religion,
01:23:50.320 I can still watch his show
01:23:51.620 and get something out of it.
01:23:52.700 I know where he's coming from.
01:23:54.420 I don't watch his show,
01:23:55.280 but I watch the clips.
01:23:56.580 I watch the clips.
01:23:57.240 Yes, me too.
01:23:57.900 His monologues are very funny.
01:23:59.640 I'm not much for the guests
01:24:01.100 that he has on the show,
01:24:01.980 to be honest,
01:24:02.440 but depends, you know,
01:24:05.160 hit or miss.
01:24:06.200 But it's not something
01:24:06.900 I would like subscribe to
01:24:07.840 or make sure
01:24:08.480 it was appointment viewing.
01:24:09.320 But I like him overall,
01:24:10.780 even though we disagree
01:24:11.420 on so many things.
01:24:12.380 I like him.
01:24:13.200 I think he's very clever
01:24:14.380 and I think he plays
01:24:14.960 a very important role
01:24:15.920 in our national dialogue.
01:24:17.940 And he,
01:24:18.860 but he doesn't bat a thousand.
01:24:19.900 That's clear
01:24:20.440 because Don Lemon
01:24:22.160 did cross a line.
01:24:23.900 And I feel that Bill
01:24:24.560 would see it very differently
01:24:25.580 if that had been
01:24:27.280 Megyn Kelly
01:24:27.800 barging into an abortion clinic
01:24:29.700 and saying to the terrified women
01:24:31.680 as they fled,
01:24:32.720 trauma's all part of it.
01:24:34.120 Trauma's a part of my protest,
01:24:36.280 right?
01:24:36.580 That's as American as apple pie.
01:24:38.820 He would see very clearly
01:24:40.080 how that was very wrong
01:24:41.560 and that is not me
01:24:42.440 acting as a,
01:24:43.860 as an independent journalist
01:24:44.780 or a journalist at all.
01:24:45.660 Okay, let's keep going.
01:24:46.980 I mentioned at the top,
01:24:47.920 the Jesse Jackson funeral happened.
01:24:50.500 Honestly, I had,
01:24:51.300 as I said,
01:24:51.820 very positive experiences
01:24:52.840 with Jesse Jackson
01:24:53.600 during my years at Fox.
01:24:54.600 He was not one of those crazy, 0.97
01:24:56.300 crazy leftist, 0.98
01:24:57.640 you know, 0.99
01:24:58.760 race essentialism guys.
01:25:00.440 You know,
01:25:00.560 he had the Rainbow Push Coalition
01:25:02.020 and he made a lot of difference
01:25:03.080 in the lives of many people,
01:25:04.440 a lot of African Americans.
01:25:05.740 But he wasn't some crazy.
01:25:08.020 He wasn't like,
01:25:09.020 he wasn't Al Sharpton territory.
01:25:10.980 He certainly wasn't
01:25:11.840 an Ibram X. Kendi type.
01:25:14.120 And he was very open-minded
01:25:15.520 to talking to Republicans
01:25:16.660 about the issues
01:25:17.440 that were important to him.
01:25:19.020 That was my own take on it.
01:25:20.480 And I think that was
01:25:20.940 Roger Ailes' take on him too.
01:25:22.660 So all these dignitaries
01:25:24.940 show up at his funeral
01:25:27.400 and reportedly,
01:25:28.800 they were asked
01:25:30.120 not to get political
01:25:32.320 given the way that
01:25:33.820 Jesse Jackson was in life.
01:25:35.820 Please don't get political.
01:25:37.380 Well, they couldn't
01:25:38.140 contain themselves.
01:25:39.480 And while I said at the top,
01:25:40.920 it was President Clinton,
01:25:42.140 President Obama,
01:25:42.780 and President Biden
01:25:43.900 who came under
01:25:45.220 Jesse Jackson Jr.'s attack,
01:25:46.960 I inserted Clinton
01:25:48.640 in there wrongly
01:25:49.340 because what he said
01:25:49.980 was three presidents
01:25:51.040 came to this event
01:25:52.480 and like basically wrongfully
01:25:54.640 didn't do what I asked them to do.
01:25:56.760 And I think he was confused
01:25:57.800 because actually Bill Clinton
01:25:58.800 did not make it political.
01:26:00.040 But you know who did?
01:26:00.840 Kamala Harris.
01:26:01.880 Like from word one.
01:26:03.660 So I think his reference
01:26:04.360 to three presidents,
01:26:05.380 you know,
01:26:05.660 kind of included her
01:26:06.380 as a vice president.
01:26:07.620 But Jesse Jackson Jr.
01:26:08.860 was not happy.
01:26:10.540 and who could blame him?
01:26:13.340 I'm going to give you
01:26:14.100 a little sampling
01:26:16.460 of how it sounded.
01:26:18.840 Here's Harris
01:26:19.340 who starts with like,
01:26:21.360 hey, nice to be here.
01:26:22.780 We're here for a funeral.
01:26:23.560 And then boom,
01:26:24.180 immediately gets political
01:26:25.080 in this outwatch.
01:26:26.760 And to the entire Jackson family,
01:26:30.820 on behalf of Doug
01:26:32.340 and my family,
01:26:33.500 we pray with you
01:26:36.060 as we did
01:26:37.040 a couple weeks ago
01:26:38.500 in your home.
01:26:40.180 And we thank you.
01:26:41.860 I thank you.
01:26:42.500 You know,
01:26:45.580 so let me just say,
01:26:47.520 I predicted a lot
01:26:49.300 about what's happening
01:26:50.120 right now.
01:26:57.620 I'm not into saying
01:26:58.980 I told you so,
01:27:00.200 but we did see it coming.
01:27:04.640 And she kept going.
01:27:06.560 It wasn't just her.
01:27:07.520 I mean, 0.56
01:27:07.660 she's so insufferable, 0.54
01:27:09.060 Stu,
01:27:09.240 is she not?
01:27:10.080 I mean,
01:27:10.240 it's like,
01:27:10.560 if we could just take
01:27:13.100 a moment, Megan,
01:27:13.860 to just appreciate
01:27:14.740 the fact that
01:27:15.520 when Jesse Jackson Jr.
01:27:16.720 says three presidents,
01:27:18.200 he was incorrect
01:27:19.020 that she was one of them.
01:27:20.400 Thank God.
01:27:21.400 Thank God.
01:27:22.720 Thank God.
01:27:23.700 We don't have to deal
01:27:24.500 with that nonsense
01:27:25.440 and hopefully never will.
01:27:28.060 It's just absolutely, 0.95
01:27:29.520 she's terrible. 0.82
01:27:31.440 I mean,
01:27:31.580 the reason she lost
01:27:32.480 is she's just terrible
01:27:34.320 at this.
01:27:34.720 She really is.
01:27:35.500 And for some reason,
01:27:36.300 Democrats see this
01:27:37.060 as constantly
01:27:38.620 like their big chance
01:27:40.140 to make a political speech
01:27:41.720 when there's someone,
01:27:43.220 you know,
01:27:43.580 who had just passed away.
01:27:45.480 Yeah,
01:27:45.740 someone who died.
01:27:47.040 What?
01:27:47.360 How is that your great chance?
01:27:48.740 By the way,
01:27:49.280 he wasn't a politician.
01:27:50.440 You know,
01:27:50.600 he was a thought leader,
01:27:51.580 but he wasn't a politician.
01:27:53.160 I want to give you
01:27:53.840 a little bit more
01:27:54.500 of Kamala Harris,
01:27:55.320 who,
01:27:55.520 again,
01:27:56.360 she just gave a soundbite 1.00
01:27:57.700 like a week ago,
01:27:59.060 not even,
01:27:59.700 maybe,
01:28:00.380 or just over,
01:28:01.140 about 10 days ago,
01:28:02.920 opening the door,
01:28:03.820 once again,
01:28:04.340 probably wider than she has
01:28:05.520 to a presidential run.
01:28:06.900 She's going to do it.
01:28:07.740 This woman's running 1.00
01:28:08.640 and this is what
01:28:10.020 we're going to be subjected to.
01:28:11.100 She hasn't even brushed up
01:28:13.680 on new phrases for her act. 1.00
01:28:16.320 She's recycling all the old shit. 0.99
01:28:18.720 Listen to Sot 13. 1.00
01:28:20.700 To understand,
01:28:21.780 as has been said,
01:28:22.920 the beauty that comes
01:28:24.420 after the storm,
01:28:25.840 when we see what is possible
01:28:28.220 and what can be unburdened
01:28:30.360 by what has been.
01:28:31.980 That was a Jesse Jackson pin
01:28:33.980 from those days.
01:28:35.920 And just a beautiful example
01:28:39.460 of his determination,
01:28:42.540 his sense of humor,
01:28:43.720 but his ability to see
01:28:45.020 what can be unburdened
01:28:47.260 by what has been.
01:28:48.740 Okay.
01:28:52.620 Twice in the same speech.
01:28:55.200 You know,
01:28:55.520 it's the duality of it.
01:28:56.960 It is.
01:28:57.980 If you were to take out
01:28:58.700 the Venn diagram, Stu.
01:29:00.340 Right.
01:29:00.880 She has no new lines.
01:29:02.120 That's unbelievable.
01:29:06.440 Especially because that
01:29:07.620 in particular was something
01:29:08.960 that everyone criticized.
01:29:10.180 Everyone made fun of her.
01:29:11.380 That criticism had to have
01:29:12.780 gotten to her at some point,
01:29:13.760 I would assume.
01:29:15.460 And here she is still
01:29:16.060 trotting this stuff out.
01:29:17.000 And this is because
01:29:17.700 she doesn't have thoughts.
01:29:22.320 She doesn't have
01:29:23.380 original thoughts.
01:29:24.620 She's like a person
01:29:27.300 who's just kind of existing
01:29:29.340 and sees herself
01:29:31.500 as this sort of machine
01:29:33.380 that just pumps out things
01:29:35.480 that people are supposed
01:29:36.400 to like her, right?
01:29:37.120 And I guess that's how
01:29:37.800 her life went up until that day.
01:29:38.540 She is unburdened by thoughts
01:29:40.560 and used to getting ahead 0.62
01:29:43.560 on the fact that she is Black
01:29:45.660 and she is a woman.
01:29:46.740 And in the Democrat Party,
01:29:48.220 that is typically enough.
01:29:49.640 It was enough to make her
01:29:50.600 the nominee.
01:29:51.280 And we'll see whether they
01:29:52.180 proceed with that kind of folly
01:29:53.500 the next time as well.
01:29:55.660 Let's keep going
01:29:56.540 because here's Biden.
01:29:57.940 He also got political.
01:29:59.400 I mean, again,
01:30:00.280 he'd been asked
01:30:01.000 not to do this
01:30:02.580 by the family
01:30:03.580 of the deceased.
01:30:04.880 And yet,
01:30:05.700 take a listen.
01:30:07.140 We're in a tough spot, folks.
01:30:09.980 We got an administration
01:30:11.220 that doesn't share
01:30:13.440 any of the values
01:30:14.120 that we have.
01:30:15.680 I don't think I'm exaggerating
01:30:17.000 a little bit.
01:30:19.320 No one can understand
01:30:20.340 a word you're saying, sir.
01:30:21.600 Go back to your basement
01:30:22.680 and your pudding.
01:30:24.160 Stand by.
01:30:24.840 Here's Barack Obama.
01:30:26.520 Same thing.
01:30:28.140 Disrespecting the wishes
01:30:28.920 of the family.
01:30:30.280 We are living
01:30:31.280 in a time
01:30:34.100 when it can be hard to hope.
01:30:41.740 Each day we wake up
01:30:43.660 to some new assault
01:30:45.940 on our democratic institutions.
01:30:48.920 another setback
01:30:53.760 to the idea
01:30:54.580 of the rule of law.
01:30:57.120 Everywhere we see greed
01:30:58.600 and bigotry
01:30:59.420 being celebrated
01:31:01.000 and bullying
01:31:02.140 and mockery
01:31:04.520 masquerading as strength.
01:31:07.000 It may be tempting
01:31:07.980 for some to compromise
01:31:10.760 with power
01:31:11.660 and grab what you can
01:31:15.140 and grab what you can
01:31:15.160 or
01:31:16.860 even for good people
01:31:18.740 to maybe just
01:31:20.060 put your head down
01:31:21.200 and wait for the storm
01:31:22.000 to pass.
01:31:23.140 But this man
01:31:24.140 Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson
01:31:28.100 inspires us
01:31:30.280 to take a harder path.
01:31:33.220 So what is that?
01:31:34.480 Is that just hubris
01:31:35.400 of these three
01:31:36.340 to overrule
01:31:37.240 the grieving family
01:31:38.080 on what they wanted?
01:31:38.960 I mean
01:31:41.880 of the three
01:31:43.240 I mean
01:31:43.420 I give Biden
01:31:44.040 a little bit
01:31:44.680 of a break there
01:31:45.440 in that he
01:31:46.140 looks like
01:31:47.120 he just climbed
01:31:47.760 out of a casket
01:31:48.580 to make the speech.
01:31:49.780 I have no idea
01:31:50.480 if he has any idea
01:31:51.320 what's going on
01:31:52.220 at this point.
01:31:53.020 He's clearly just reading
01:31:53.780 whatever his team
01:31:54.600 wrote for him.
01:31:55.880 Yeah
01:31:56.280 I mean it's just
01:31:56.980 you know
01:31:57.320 that's not a positive
01:31:58.580 situation
01:31:59.060 for a million
01:31:59.640 different reasons.
01:32:00.980 Wait wait
01:32:01.380 before we move on
01:32:02.520 from Biden though
01:32:03.100 because
01:32:03.400 I do need to add
01:32:04.940 this addendum
01:32:05.520 of his remarks here
01:32:06.500 to your point
01:32:07.760 12.
01:32:10.680 If I told you all
01:32:11.740 earlier
01:32:12.280 when I was a kid
01:32:13.120 I had a cleft palate
01:32:14.220 or club foot
01:32:16.020 none of you would have laughed
01:32:16.940 but it's okay
01:32:18.840 to laugh at stuttering.
01:32:21.020 I'm not being critical
01:32:21.760 of you
01:32:22.020 but think about it.
01:32:23.620 It's the one place
01:32:24.460 where people 1.00
01:32:24.840 think you're stupid. 1.00
01:32:27.180 Oh really? 1.00
01:32:28.780 I'm a hell of a lot
01:32:29.400 smarter than most of you.
01:32:32.400 Well kidding aside.
01:32:34.360 He tried to ad-lib
01:32:35.440 he wound up calling 1.00
01:32:37.300 the black crowd dumb 1.00
01:32:38.580 and also said 1.00
01:32:40.180 that they were making
01:32:40.720 fun of his stutter
01:32:41.380 which is not right
01:32:43.520 and embarrassed himself
01:32:45.660 once again
01:32:46.080 like
01:32:46.560 when he ad-libbed Stu
01:32:48.720 he was back
01:32:49.620 to his normal self
01:32:50.380 and that's not a good thing.
01:32:52.360 No
01:32:52.820 no
01:32:53.180 not at all
01:32:54.340 and I have
01:32:54.960 you know
01:32:55.880 this strange thing
01:32:57.300 about politics
01:32:58.060 I mean
01:32:58.280 I'm going to go back
01:32:58.880 to the Paul Wellstone
01:32:59.820 this is a million years ago
01:33:00.860 but you know
01:33:01.420 the Democrats
01:33:02.420 lost a major election
01:33:04.160 a big Senate election
01:33:05.180 kind of by doing
01:33:06.340 the same thing
01:33:07.300 back in the day
01:33:08.360 where they came out
01:33:09.020 and kind of used it
01:33:09.580 as a party
01:33:10.080 in a political rally
01:33:11.160 at a funeral
01:33:13.000 separate from even
01:33:14.800 the use of politics here
01:33:15.960 can we at least agree
01:33:17.500 that when you're
01:33:18.340 at a funeral
01:33:19.000 it's not about you
01:33:20.260 like
01:33:21.000 it's about the person
01:33:22.620 who died
01:33:23.440 and
01:33:23.900 like
01:33:24.540 that should be clear
01:33:26.880 right
01:33:27.960 this is supposed
01:33:29.460 to be a celebration
01:33:30.180 of their lives
01:33:32.100 not supposed
01:33:32.960 a remembrance
01:33:33.580 of their lives
01:33:34.380 not supposed
01:33:35.020 to be something
01:33:35.540 where you come out
01:33:36.140 and talk about
01:33:36.740 your stutter
01:33:37.460 like that's just
01:33:38.120 making their life
01:33:39.660 about you
01:33:40.460 just have a little bit
01:33:42.560 of
01:33:42.800 just be humble
01:33:44.100 a little bit
01:33:44.760 and maybe
01:33:45.200 talk about the things
01:33:46.340 you admired
01:33:47.520 about them
01:33:48.720 solely
01:33:49.920 and you might say
01:33:50.760 well wait a minute
01:33:51.500 where's the time
01:33:52.540 where I get to talk
01:33:53.380 about my cleft palate
01:33:54.600 potential back in the day
01:33:56.460 this isn't it
01:33:57.440 like there's just
01:33:58.160 not an opening for it
01:33:59.400 that's an age old
01:34:00.900 question
01:34:01.240 but when going
01:34:01.880 to a funeral
01:34:02.520 and making remarks
01:34:03.680 where
01:34:05.240 do I get to talk
01:34:06.980 about my cleft palate
01:34:08.320 in Kavla Harris' case
01:34:12.520 clearly this is like
01:34:13.440 the 2028 kickoff
01:34:14.980 she's like yeah
01:34:15.580 if you could drop
01:34:16.420 some confetti
01:34:17.040 after I finish
01:34:18.620 that'd be terrific
01:34:19.540 some balloon drop
01:34:21.040 perhaps
01:34:21.760 that would really
01:34:22.360 help me out
01:34:23.220 here was
01:34:23.780 Jesse Jackson Jr.
01:34:25.680 reacting
01:34:26.160 to the naked
01:34:28.120 self-promotion
01:34:29.340 of these three
01:34:30.280 yesterday
01:34:31.620 I listened
01:34:33.080 for several
01:34:34.440 hours
01:34:35.160 of three
01:34:35.920 United States
01:34:38.560 presidents
01:34:39.200 who do not
01:34:41.820 know Jesse Jackson
01:34:42.840 he maintained
01:34:44.560 a tense
01:34:45.160 relationship
01:34:46.100 with the
01:34:48.540 political order
01:34:49.400 not because
01:34:50.420 the presidents
01:34:52.200 were white
01:34:52.980 or black
01:34:53.800 but the demands
01:34:56.120 of our message
01:34:56.960 the demands
01:34:59.060 of speaking
01:34:59.580 for the least
01:35:00.180 of these
01:35:00.760 those who were
01:35:01.500 disinherited 0.96
01:35:02.320 the damned 0.98
01:35:03.060 the dispossessed 1.00
01:35:05.380 the disrespected
01:35:06.680 demanded
01:35:09.280 not democratic
01:35:10.320 or republican
01:35:11.440 solutions
01:35:12.220 but demanded
01:35:13.260 a consistent
01:35:15.440 prophetic
01:35:17.920 voice
01:35:19.620 that at no point
01:35:21.960 in time
01:35:22.740 ever sold us
01:35:24.040 out
01:35:24.440 as a people
01:35:25.400 and it
01:35:28.380 speaks volumes
01:35:29.260 about who
01:35:30.240 the reverend
01:35:30.920 Jesse Jackson
01:35:31.700 was
01:35:33.860 wow
01:35:35.640 I mean
01:35:36.820 that's
01:35:37.100 pretty bold
01:35:38.240 they all
01:35:38.780 showed up
01:35:39.240 and they all
01:35:39.640 spoke at
01:35:40.520 the funeral
01:35:41.640 and yet
01:35:42.180 the son
01:35:42.600 was not
01:35:43.240 having it
01:35:43.920 still
01:35:44.200 yeah
01:35:45.800 I mean
01:35:46.080 I love
01:35:46.420 the comments
01:35:47.020 and of course
01:35:47.680 I don't know
01:35:48.780 I've been to
01:35:49.580 funerals
01:35:50.140 there
01:35:50.460 I've never
01:35:51.320 been to one
01:35:51.920 that's anything
01:35:52.500 like what
01:35:53.060 democratic
01:35:53.500 politicians
01:35:54.060 always do
01:35:55.100 so I don't
01:35:55.660 understand
01:35:56.220 how any
01:35:57.140 of this
01:35:57.380 works
01:35:57.700 I mean
01:35:58.120 I don't
01:35:58.320 even
01:35:58.460 understand
01:35:58.760 like why
01:35:59.340 why are
01:36:00.160 they even
01:36:00.480 speaking
01:36:00.840 why
01:36:01.360 I mean
01:36:02.020 I assume
01:36:02.520 Barack Obama
01:36:03.020 did just
01:36:03.280 walk up on
01:36:03.940 stage and
01:36:04.320 take the
01:36:04.800 mic
01:36:05.020 like what's
01:36:05.500 the process
01:36:06.020 that he's
01:36:06.440 even getting
01:36:07.040 the gig
01:36:07.960 because I
01:36:09.240 you know
01:36:09.800 I guess
01:36:10.100 there is
01:36:10.380 some like
01:36:10.900 weird thing
01:36:11.760 that we do
01:36:12.180 as human
01:36:12.540 beings
01:36:13.040 to try
01:36:14.100 to make
01:36:14.580 ourselves
01:36:15.100 in our
01:36:16.000 you know
01:36:16.280 as we
01:36:16.700 remember
01:36:17.160 someone's
01:36:17.660 life
01:36:17.840 we try
01:36:18.100 to make
01:36:18.500 ourselves
01:36:19.080 important
01:36:20.060 by highlighting
01:36:21.200 the people
01:36:21.700 that we
01:36:22.040 knew
01:36:22.240 around
01:36:22.640 them
01:36:22.820 I don't
01:36:23.160 know
01:36:23.360 maybe
01:36:23.620 that's
01:36:23.900 what
01:36:24.040 they're
01:36:24.200 doing
01:36:24.580 hey
01:36:25.200 he knew
01:36:25.760 all these
01:36:26.100 presidents
01:36:26.520 and they'll
01:36:26.980 speak
01:36:27.240 nicely
01:36:27.640 of him
01:36:28.120 so
01:36:28.360 that will
01:36:29.340 I guess
01:36:30.200 improve
01:36:30.520 his standing
01:36:30.980 I mean
01:36:31.200 I would
01:36:31.400 assume
01:36:31.660 as a
01:36:32.000 reverend
01:36:32.980 that's
01:36:33.200 probably
01:36:33.520 not how
01:36:33.860 he looked
01:36:34.240 at the
01:36:34.480 world
01:36:34.660 or at
01:36:34.940 least
01:36:35.060 not how
01:36:35.360 he tried
01:36:35.740 to look
01:36:36.020 at the
01:36:36.240 world
01:36:36.480 you know
01:36:37.520 I didn't
01:36:37.760 know
01:36:42.540 guy
01:36:42.820 and a
01:36:43.220 guy
01:36:43.460 who
01:36:44.580 was
01:36:44.880 positive
01:36:45.780 to deal
01:36:46.220 with
01:36:46.480 and you
01:36:47.500 know
01:36:47.580 I wouldn't
01:36:48.100 have
01:36:48.280 enjoyed
01:36:48.720 him
01:36:48.860 I don't
01:36:49.060 think
01:36:49.220 as president
01:36:49.680 of the
01:36:49.920 United
01:36:50.120 States
01:36:50.560 but you
01:36:51.240 know
01:36:51.340 that's
01:36:51.640 neither
01:36:52.660 here nor
01:36:53.080 there
01:36:53.320 I would
01:36:53.580 assume
01:36:53.840 he would
01:36:54.920 aim
01:36:55.480 to be
01:36:55.840 known
01:36:56.080 for
01:36:56.280 things
01:36:56.540 bigger
01:36:57.020 than
01:36:57.360 that
01:36:57.740 and yet
01:36:58.420 every
01:36:58.880 democratic
01:36:59.560 politician
01:37:00.120 who died
01:37:00.760 has this
01:37:01.260 same
01:37:01.580 moment
01:37:01.940 and every
01:37:02.520 time
01:37:02.780 people
01:37:03.240 are
01:37:03.400 critical
01:37:03.700 of it
01:37:04.020 even
01:37:04.220 people
01:37:04.580 who are
01:37:05.100 members
01:37:05.340 of the
01:37:05.600 family
01:37:05.980 and over
01:37:06.640 and over
01:37:06.900 again
01:37:07.200 they make
01:37:07.920 it about
01:37:08.440 them
01:37:09.080 and the
01:37:09.580 things
01:37:12.540 it's so
01:37:14.580 selfish
01:37:15.240 and just 1.00
01:37:15.780 ugly 0.98
01:37:16.120 it's so 0.98
01:37:17.200 disrespectful
01:37:18.120 there was
01:37:20.120 also
01:37:20.540 some
01:37:22.080 there were
01:37:22.700 some famous
01:37:23.140 people there
01:37:23.680 including
01:37:23.980 former NBA
01:37:24.780 player
01:37:25.180 Isaiah
01:37:25.680 Thomas
01:37:26.120 this is
01:37:27.060 what he
01:37:27.300 had to
01:37:27.540 say
01:37:27.720 I also
01:37:29.500 like to
01:37:30.180 honor the
01:37:33.360 five
01:37:33.680 presidents
01:37:34.340 who are
01:37:38.000 sitting here
01:37:38.560 today
01:37:38.960 President
01:37:46.100 Harris
01:37:46.720 President
01:37:49.680 Clinton
01:37:50.220 President
01:37:52.820 Bill
01:37:53.280 Clinton
01:37:53.700 First
01:37:55.320 Lady
01:37:55.620 Jill
01:37:55.980 Biden
01:37:56.400 President
01:37:58.760 Biden
01:37:59.320 and
01:38:01.160 Chicago's
01:38:01.740 own
01:38:01.980 South
01:38:02.320 Side
01:38:02.760 President
01:38:03.700 Barack
01:38:04.140 Obama
01:38:04.540 OK
01:38:08.000 so he
01:38:08.860 included
01:38:09.360 Hillary 0.96
01:38:10.280 and Kamala
01:38:11.440 in there
01:38:12.420 Hillary Clinton
01:38:13.060 laughed it
01:38:13.720 off
01:38:13.980 she knew
01:38:14.360 it was
01:38:14.500 a joke
01:38:14.820 Kamala
01:38:15.260 Harris
01:38:15.540 is reacting
01:38:16.420 like she
01:38:16.780 actually
01:38:17.020 was
01:38:17.260 president
01:38:17.680 finally
01:38:19.120 I've
01:38:20.080 been
01:38:20.220 acknowledged
01:38:20.760 amazing
01:38:22.640 to me
01:38:23.020 right
01:38:23.220 like
01:38:23.480 first of
01:38:24.340 all that
01:38:24.560 really is
01:38:24.960 an
01:38:25.080 inappropriate
01:38:25.440 thing
01:38:25.720 to do
01:38:26.020 for him
01:38:26.500 like
01:38:26.740 you know
01:38:27.580 full well
01:38:28.140 that two
01:38:28.640 of those
01:38:28.880 were not
01:38:29.340 president
01:38:29.700 of the
01:38:30.000 United
01:38:30.180 States
01:38:30.480 it's
01:38:30.680 not a
01:38:30.920 label
01:38:31.120 you can
01:38:31.340 just
01:38:31.480 throw
01:38:31.680 around
01:38:32.120 loosey
01:38:32.840 goosey
01:38:33.260 and for
01:38:34.100 Kamala
01:38:34.360 Harris
01:38:34.620 to do
01:38:34.860 anything
01:38:35.160 other
01:38:35.380 than
01:38:35.580 laugh
01:38:35.860 hysterically
01:38:36.480 is again
01:38:37.380 just shows
01:38:37.820 how fragile
01:38:38.340 her ego
01:38:38.820 is still
01:38:39.340 yeah
01:38:41.220 no
01:38:41.600 it's
01:38:41.840 it's
01:38:42.140 it's
01:38:42.420 true
01:38:42.680 but this
01:38:43.320 is the
01:38:43.740 sort of
01:38:44.180 fantasy
01:38:44.840 world
01:38:45.300 they dream
01:38:45.840 of
01:38:46.120 right
01:38:46.320 this is
01:38:46.760 the
01:38:47.000 this is
01:38:47.440 what
01:38:47.600 they
01:38:47.880 believed
01:38:48.420 was
01:38:50.120 was
01:38:50.360 accurate
01:38:50.740 I mean
01:38:51.060 I think
01:38:51.500 when you
01:38:52.220 look back
01:38:52.760 at a
01:38:53.520 lot of
01:38:53.880 their
01:38:54.000 commentary
01:38:54.360 at the
01:38:54.840 time
01:38:55.200 speaking
01:38:56.100 of people
01:38:56.560 on the
01:38:57.140 left
01:38:57.360 they
01:38:57.640 were
01:38:57.940 saying
01:38:58.360 elections
01:38:59.320 had been
01:38:59.940 stolen
01:39:00.520 and taken
01:39:01.160 away
01:39:01.640 from
01:39:02.780 those who
01:39:03.300 rightfully
01:39:03.760 held
01:39:05.000 those
01:39:05.360 offices
01:39:05.840 and won
01:39:06.560 those
01:39:06.820 elections
01:39:07.240 that is
01:39:08.300 the kind
01:39:08.640 of fantasy
01:39:08.940 world
01:39:09.140 they live
01:39:09.420 in
01:39:09.500 they think
01:39:09.900 that this
01:39:10.260 is real
01:39:10.860 and they
01:39:11.340 think
01:39:11.620 anything
01:39:11.900 to do
01:39:12.760 with
01:39:12.880 Donald
01:39:13.140 Trump
01:39:13.340 is
01:39:13.480 illegitimate
01:39:14.100 Hillary Clinton
01:39:15.220 herself
01:39:15.660 has used
01:39:16.040 the word
01:39:16.280 illegitimate
01:39:16.820 how many
01:39:17.320 times
01:39:17.780 Bill
01:39:19.220 tried to
01:39:19.720 tell me
01:39:19.940 wasn't
01:39:20.220 true
01:39:20.460 and
01:39:20.800 it
01:39:21.120 was
01:39:21.380 true
01:39:21.680 and
01:39:21.940 he
01:39:22.020 learned
01:39:22.200 about
01:39:22.440 it
01:39:22.560 on the
01:39:22.740 Megyn Kelly
01:39:23.120 show
01:39:23.400 because
01:39:23.760 you know
01:39:24.680 yeah
01:39:24.980 to your
01:39:25.280 point
01:39:25.460 some
01:39:25.700 live in
01:39:26.500 this
01:39:26.660 bubble
01:39:26.940 I only
01:39:27.760 have
01:39:28.000 a short
01:39:28.540 time
01:39:28.720 left
01:39:28.880 but I
01:39:29.080 wanted
01:39:29.220 to get
01:39:29.440 this
01:39:29.620 in
01:39:29.740 before
01:39:29.920 we
01:39:30.080 go
01:39:30.280 speaking
01:39:31.060 of
01:39:31.260 petty
01:39:31.540 and
01:39:31.780 inappropriate
01:39:32.220 President 0.60
01:39:33.140 Obama
01:39:33.540 has
01:39:33.880 announced
01:39:34.140 the
01:39:34.340 date
01:39:34.580 for
01:39:34.840 the
01:39:35.040 opening
01:39:35.360 of
01:39:35.580 his
01:39:35.800 absolutely 0.98
01:39:36.940 ugly 0.98
01:39:37.840 awful 1.00
01:39:38.520 presidential 0.97
01:39:39.180 center
01:39:39.600 his
01:39:39.800 library
01:39:40.240 this is
01:39:41.560 MSNOW
01:39:42.000 on
01:39:42.160 Saturday
01:39:42.540 listen
01:39:43.240 to
01:39:43.880 this
01:39:44.240 it's
01:39:44.540 Valerie
01:39:44.840 Jarrett
01:39:45.260 who
01:39:45.460 is
01:39:45.600 his
01:39:45.740 top
01:39:45.940 emissary
01:39:46.380 and
01:39:46.520 remains
01:39:46.820 so
01:39:47.120 and
01:39:48.720 so
01:39:48.920 I'm
01:39:49.180 just
01:39:49.400 wondering
01:39:50.720 Valerie
01:39:51.840 is
01:39:54.120 President
01:39:54.560 Trump
01:39:54.900 invited
01:39:55.400 well as
01:39:56.740 I said
01:39:57.100 this is
01:39:57.460 really
01:39:57.680 a chance
01:39:58.140 for us
01:39:58.460 to
01:39:58.660 celebrate
01:39:59.040 with
01:39:59.840 the
01:39:59.960 people
01:40:00.160 who
01:40:00.340 joined
01:40:00.700 President
01:40:01.040 Obama
01:40:01.380 on
01:40:01.740 this
01:40:01.940 journey
01:40:02.240 the
01:40:02.840 ordinary
01:40:03.160 people
01:40:03.560 who
01:40:03.760 did
01:40:03.920 the
01:40:04.060 extraordinary
01:40:04.500 things
01:40:05.100 so
01:40:05.700 no
01:40:06.000 but I
01:40:06.320 will
01:40:06.480 say
01:40:06.760 that
01:40:07.580 after
01:40:07.900 we
01:40:08.060 open
01:40:08.240 to
01:40:08.400 the
01:40:08.540 public
01:40:08.940 should
01:40:09.520 President
01:40:09.860 Trump
01:40:10.140 want
01:40:10.380 to
01:40:10.480 come
01:40:10.720 and
01:40:10.880 tour
01:40:11.040 the
01:40:11.240 center
01:40:11.500 President
01:40:12.080 Obama
01:40:12.400 would
01:40:12.600 be
01:40:12.740 delighted
01:40:13.180 for
01:40:13.420 him
01:40:13.560 to
01:40:13.680 do
01:40:13.840 so
01:40:14.120 that
01:40:15.260 was
01:40:15.360 a
01:40:15.440 very
01:40:15.580 heavy
01:40:15.820 no
01:40:16.120 Valerie
01:40:16.680 okay
01:40:18.880 so
01:40:19.220 petty
01:40:19.820 to the
01:40:20.600 end
01:40:20.920 even
01:40:21.620 well
01:40:21.980 out
01:40:22.160 of
01:40:22.280 office
01:40:22.720 opening
01:40:23.420 his
01:40:23.600 presidential
01:40:24.000 library
01:40:24.440 the goal
01:40:24.760 is always
01:40:25.080 to have
01:40:25.380 former
01:40:25.660 presidents
01:40:26.040 or current
01:40:26.420 presidents
01:40:26.840 presidents
01:40:27.400 who
01:40:27.540 followed
01:40:27.840 you
01:40:28.080 come
01:40:28.880 to
01:40:29.060 the
01:40:29.200 opening
01:40:29.420 of
01:40:29.540 your
01:40:29.640 library
01:40:30.060 it's
01:40:30.340 like
01:40:30.460 when
01:40:30.540 you
01:40:30.620 throw
01:40:30.740 a
01:40:30.860 book
01:40:31.000 party
01:40:31.300 trying
01:40:31.860 to
01:40:31.940 get
01:40:32.080 names
01:40:32.440 there
01:40:32.700 so
01:40:32.900 you
01:40:32.940 can
01:40:33.040 call
01:40:33.180 attention
01:40:33.600 to
01:40:34.240 your
01:40:34.360 new
01:40:34.500 thing
01:40:34.720 his
01:40:41.500 recycling
01:40:42.780 receptacle
01:40:44.400 with the
01:40:45.020 weird
01:40:45.160 words
01:40:45.420 on the
01:40:45.680 side
01:40:45.880 of
01:40:46.000 it
01:40:46.180 and
01:40:46.960 literally
01:40:48.160 nobody
01:40:48.660 will
01:40:48.920 look at
01:40:49.140 this
01:40:49.280 thing
01:40:49.420 which
01:40:49.560 is
01:40:49.680 supposed
01:40:49.840 to
01:40:49.960 be
01:40:50.060 like
01:40:50.220 300
01:40:50.580 million
01:40:50.920 and
01:40:51.120 wound
01:40:51.300 up
01:40:51.460 being
01:40:51.640 almost
01:40:52.040 a
01:40:52.180 billion
01:40:52.380 dollars
01:40:52.740 it
01:40:52.900 was
01:40:53.000 like
01:40:53.120 in
01:40:53.220 the
01:40:53.320 800
01:40:53.680 million
01:40:54.060 range
01:40:54.540 nobody
01:40:55.900 would
01:40:56.120 look
01:40:56.280 at
01:40:56.380 this
01:40:56.560 and
01:40:56.700 say
01:40:56.880 this
01:40:57.100 is
01:40:57.220 attractive
01:40:57.640 or
01:40:58.020 should
01:40:58.380 stand
01:40:59.720 as
01:40:59.940 a
01:41:00.560 fed
01:41:01.060 contribution
01:41:02.640 to
01:41:03.000 American
01:41:03.320 architecture
01:41:03.820 unless
01:41:05.300 you're
01:41:05.500 trying
01:41:05.700 to
01:41:05.880 incinerate 0.65
01:41:06.340 trash 0.84
01:41:06.680 in 1.00
01:41:06.900 North
01:41:07.120 Korea 0.61
01:41:07.500 I
01:41:07.920 think
01:41:08.100 most
01:41:08.300 people
01:41:08.500 agree
01:41:08.720 with
01:41:08.880 you
01:41:09.040 I
01:41:10.600 mean
01:41:10.720 President
01:41:10.960 Trump
01:41:11.160 is
01:41:11.240 going
01:41:11.320 to
01:41:11.340 be
01:41:11.440 thrilled
01:41:11.680 he's
01:41:11.840 not
01:41:11.980 invited
01:41:12.300 he
01:41:12.700 wouldn't
01:41:13.180 have
01:41:13.280 gone
01:41:13.480 anyway
01:41:13.800 but
01:41:13.980 just
01:41:14.120 like
01:41:14.360 the
01:41:14.880 absence
01:41:15.420 of
01:41:15.640 ceremony
01:41:15.960 right
01:41:16.280 like 1.00
01:41:16.580 fuck 1.00
01:41:16.960 you 1.00
01:41:17.180 you're
01:41:17.520 not
01:41:17.700 coming
01:41:18.080 get
01:41:19.040 out
01:41:19.340 I
01:41:19.500 mean
01:41:19.600 that's
01:41:19.820 the
01:41:20.120 same
01:41:20.300 reason
01:41:20.580 Barack
01:41:21.000 Obama
01:41:21.320 attacked
01:41:21.820 him
01:41:22.020 he
01:41:22.180 is
01:41:22.360 partisan
01:41:23.240 to
01:41:23.940 his
01:41:24.120 core
01:41:24.800 and
01:41:25.420 why
01:41:25.600 it's
01:41:25.760 so
01:41:25.900 galling
01:41:26.280 for
01:41:26.420 some
01:41:26.640 of
01:41:26.760 us
01:41:26.880 to
01:41:27.000 hear
01:41:27.140 him
01:41:27.300 described
01:41:27.800 as
01:41:28.180 not
01:41:28.680 by
01:41:29.280 his
01:41:29.700 supporters
01:41:38.100 and
01:41:38.400 I
01:41:38.500 don't
01:41:38.600 know
01:41:38.840 not
01:41:39.880 all
01:41:40.040 that
01:41:40.160 impressed
01:41:40.500 by
01:41:40.780 it
01:41:40.960 he
01:41:41.900 just
01:41:42.780 tried
01:41:43.380 to
01:41:43.560 hide
01:41:43.780 it
01:41:43.960 we
01:41:44.260 talked
01:41:44.460 about
01:41:44.660 mom
01:41:44.860 Donnie
01:41:45.160 earlier
01:41:45.520 a
01:41:45.820 very
01:41:46.400 similar
01:41:46.800 thing
01:41:47.100 is
01:41:47.240 happening
01:41:47.640 there
01:41:48.460 where
01:41:48.880 if
01:41:49.500 you
01:41:49.580 try
01:41:50.000 to
01:41:50.140 hide
01:41:50.360 it
01:41:50.500 and
01:41:50.640 you
01:41:50.760 act
01:41:51.260 like
01:41:51.540 you're
01:41:51.680 above
01:41:51.880 it
01:41:52.020 and
01:41:52.200 say
01:41:52.480 we
01:41:52.740 don't
01:41:52.960 go
01:41:53.140 low
01:41:53.380 we
01:41:53.560 go
01:41:53.740 high
01:41:54.080 over
01:41:54.340 and
01:41:54.480 over
01:41:54.640 and
01:41:54.780 over
01:41:54.920 again
01:41:55.140 eventually
01:41:55.500 people
01:41:55.800 start
01:41:56.060 to
01:41:56.220 believe
01:41:56.500 it
01:41:56.700 that
01:41:57.660 was
01:41:57.960 more
01:41:58.300 of
01:41:58.460 a
01:41:58.800 core
01:41:59.360 tenant
01:41:59.740 of
01:42:00.060 the
01:42:00.240 entire
01:42:01.180 operation
01:42:01.800 during
01:42:02.180 the
01:42:02.300 Obama
01:42:02.560 years
01:42:02.860 and
01:42:03.020 I
01:42:03.140 think
01:42:03.260 it's
01:42:03.420 continuing
01:42:03.760 with
01:42:03.980 a lot
01:42:04.220 of
01:42:04.300 Democrats
01:42:04.640 on
01:42:04.800 the
01:42:04.880 left
01:42:05.040 just
01:42:05.240 some
01:42:05.500 of
01:42:05.600 them
01:42:05.740 blurted
01:42:06.160 out
01:42:06.320 a little
01:42:06.540 bit
01:42:06.680 more
01:42:06.860 often
01:42:07.180 than
01:42:07.760 Barack
01:42:08.060 Obama
01:42:08.340 does
01:42:08.620 well
01:42:09.080 President
01:42:09.620 Trump
01:42:09.860 won't
01:42:10.040 be
01:42:10.220 able
01:42:10.540 to
01:42:10.700 attend
01:42:11.060 because
01:42:11.560 he's
01:42:12.160 having
01:42:12.360 the
01:42:12.540 opening
01:42:12.800 on
01:42:13.100 Juneteenth
01:42:13.700 which
01:42:14.340 is
01:42:14.680 a
01:42:15.060 alleged
01:42:15.700 holiday
01:42:16.380 that
01:42:16.780 most
01:42:16.980 of
01:42:17.080 us
01:42:17.200 don't
01:42:17.420 celebrate
01:42:17.780 because
01:42:18.080 it's
01:42:18.300 made
01:42:18.480 up
01:42:18.700 and
01:42:18.900 it's 0.95
01:42:19.080 ridiculous 0.97
01:42:19.440 so 0.99
01:42:20.480 I
01:42:20.760 don't
01:42:20.960 think
01:42:21.780 President
01:42:22.240 Trump
01:42:22.400 is
01:42:22.520 the
01:42:22.620 time
01:42:22.800 for
01:42:22.920 this
01:42:23.100 in
01:42:23.240 any
01:42:23.380 event
01:42:23.660 Stu
01:42:24.460 Bergeer
01:42:24.840 you
01:42:25.200 don't
01:42:25.400 have
01:42:25.520 the
01:42:25.600 time
01:42:25.780 either
01:42:26.100 now
01:42:26.460 with
01:42:26.680 not
01:42:26.840 one
01:42:27.080 but
01:42:27.260 two
01:42:27.500 podcasts
01:42:28.200 predictable
01:42:29.120 and
01:42:29.680 Stu
01:42:30.060 and
01:42:30.240 Dave
01:42:30.660 do
01:42:31.080 America
01:42:31.440 and
01:42:31.640 we
01:42:31.740 look
01:42:31.880 forward
01:42:32.180 to
01:42:32.420 listening
01:42:32.680 to
01:42:32.880 you
01:42:33.080 at
01:42:33.620 both
01:42:33.960 thanks
01:42:34.320 for
01:42:34.440 coming
01:42:34.700 on
01:42:35.000 Megan
01:42:35.560 thanks
01:42:35.760 so
01:42:35.900 much
01:42:36.060 appreciate
01:42:36.300 it
01:42:36.620 okay
01:42:37.840 we
01:42:38.340 will
01:42:38.480 be
01:42:38.620 back
01:42:38.800 tomorrow
01:42:39.140 we'll
01:42:39.300 see
01:42:39.400 you
01:42:39.500 all
01:42:39.600 then
01:42:39.780 thanks
01:42:41.100 for
01:42:41.240 listening
01:42:41.500 to
01:42:41.700 the
01:42:41.800 Megan
01:42:42.000 Kelly
01:42:42.240 show
01:42:42.620 no
01:42:43.060 BS
01:42:43.480 no
01:42:43.860 agenda
01:42:44.260 and
01:42:44.920 no
01:42:45.120 fear
01:43:11.100 towel
01:43:11.420 you
01:43:12.860 were
01:43:13.020 made
01:43:13.220 to
01:43:13.420 take
01:43:13.600 the
01:43:13.760 easy
01:43:14.180 route
01:43:14.500 we
01:43:15.180 were
01:43:15.340 made
01:43:15.560 to
01:43:15.940 easily
01:43:16.340 package
01:43:16.740 your
01:43:16.940 trip
01:43:17.240 Expedia
01:43:18.240 made
01:43:18.920 to
01:43:19.140 travel