The Megyn Kelly Show - January 19, 2026


Anti-ICE Agitators and Don Lemon Disrupt Innocent People Praying in Church, with Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh | Ep. 1233


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 44 minutes

Words per Minute

180.8465

Word Count

18,984

Sentence Count

1,402

Misogynist Sentences

42

Hate Speech Sentences

92


Summary

In this episode, Megynkel explains why anti-ICE activists in Minneapolis are fine with harassing Christians in the pews at Sunday Mass, including children. She also explains why the mayor and governor are okay with it, and why CNN's Don Lemon should be fired.


Transcript

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00:01:00.780 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:01:02.700 Live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:01:12.480 Hey, everyone. I'm Megyn Kelly.
00:01:14.220 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
00:01:15.920 Anti-ice activists reach a new low.
00:01:19.640 I mean, this is beyond.
00:01:22.240 They've decided now, because there's been absolutely no crackdown by local police,
00:01:28.660 that they can get away with storming churches and disrupting Sunday worship.
00:01:34.100 It happened yesterday, and the city's Democratic leaders, as of noon Eastern today, nearly 24 hours later, have said nothing.
00:01:44.200 Mr. Get the fuck out of Minneapolis, tough guy, Mayor Frye.
00:01:47.840 Oh, so quick to tell ICE to get out.
00:01:50.740 Nothing.
00:01:52.460 Nothing.
00:01:53.660 He said not a word, which clearly means he's fine with it.
00:01:58.640 So is Governor Walz.
00:01:59.620 They're fine seeing Christians, including children, harassed literally in the pews at Sunday Mass by these cretins who call themselves activists,
00:02:12.180 who mean to harass any law-abiding Minnesotan, especially those in worship, because all these people worship is the god of wokeness, the god of leftism.
00:02:23.220 That's their god.
00:02:24.660 I mean, that's part of the problem here.
00:02:26.900 We've talked about how uniformly they're unattractive.
00:02:30.620 They tend to be fat, unkempt.
00:02:33.160 You can tell they smell bad.
00:02:34.880 And the other piece of it is they're godless.
00:02:37.080 So they think nothing, nothing of going into a Mass and disrupting people's private time with Jesus.
00:02:46.080 That's fine by them.
00:02:47.540 They don't care what the people are going through.
00:02:49.440 And because they never go to church, you see, they don't realize that when you go to Mass, you can become emotional.
00:02:54.720 It brings up a lot for a lot of people.
00:02:56.900 It's often the closest you feel to God and Jesus in your entire week.
00:03:02.240 Some people are there praying over lost loved ones.
00:03:05.100 Some people are tearful.
00:03:06.220 Some people are really struggling in their personal lives.
00:03:08.660 And this is the closest they can feel towards salvation, towards something larger than themselves.
00:03:13.940 But these leftists don't understand that language, you see.
00:03:17.360 They don't understand those sentiments.
00:03:19.000 So they're fine harassing these people, whether they're hurting or not, including children who look scared in the pews.
00:03:25.420 Aided and abetted, of course, by Don Lemon.
00:03:28.580 Don Lemon, who reveled in it and lectured half of the parishioners about how they really had an obligation to sit there and fucking take it.
00:03:37.500 That this was American as apple pie.
00:03:40.600 Sit there and fucking take it.
00:03:42.540 That was Don Lemon's basic message to these parishioners.
00:03:45.740 He's a disgusting fool.
00:03:48.020 Now, there's a question about whether he's also a criminal.
00:03:52.460 That's kind of irrelevant to me.
00:03:54.120 I mean, if he broke the law, I'm fine seeing him prosecuted.
00:03:57.260 But I actually think what's more important is how disgusting he is.
00:04:02.220 He's wearing a cap that reads like Lemonhead or whatever, his little lemon.
00:04:07.360 Like, self-promotional and satanic.
00:04:13.400 That's how that felt.
00:04:15.020 Self-promotional and satanic.
00:04:17.660 Can you imagine?
00:04:18.700 Can you?
00:04:19.100 I mean, think about it.
00:04:19.820 Just think about it.
00:04:20.500 I know most of you guys are not reporters.
00:04:22.240 But you are individuals in America who live your lives and probably a large portion of you go to church or services.
00:04:29.340 Can you imagine walking into somebody else's worship and disrupting it?
00:04:35.760 And then you as a so-called journalist starting to lecture them about how they needed to take it.
00:04:40.980 About how it was important.
00:04:43.600 And it was quintessentially American.
00:04:46.560 And totally allowed under the First Amendment.
00:04:49.320 This guy's fall from what was once the pinnacle of cable news, really, I'm not saying much, has been so precipitous and stunning.
00:04:59.780 I mean, not to some of us who saw what a disgusting person he was a long time ago.
00:05:03.580 But wow, this is like, okay.
00:05:08.940 No one should ever look at this guy again.
00:05:10.660 Okay?
00:05:10.780 Nobody should ever be watching his disgusting feed.
00:05:14.840 His disgusting behavior dovetails perfectly with who he is as a so-called journalist and as a man.
00:05:27.280 It happened at the city's church in St. Paul, Minnesota.
00:05:32.400 Protesters say they took aim at that church because one of the church's pastors is allegedly involved in ICE operations.
00:05:38.520 We actually don't know whether that's true or not.
00:05:41.220 We were unable to confirm that.
00:05:43.340 But they could have gone to that church and requested a meeting with that pastor to talk about their differences.
00:05:47.740 Not that they had any right to do that.
00:05:49.280 They had absolutely no fucking right to talk to anybody.
00:05:51.940 They didn't.
00:05:53.260 But they didn't even try.
00:05:54.740 They did not even attempt to have a discussion with him outside of Sunday's service because the whole point was to upset Christians.
00:06:03.300 I'm sorry.
00:06:03.980 I'm getting sick of this shit.
00:06:05.680 Okay?
00:06:06.460 I'm sick of this.
00:06:07.280 Like, it was three weeks ago we had Mark Levin calling Jack Posobiec a crackpot with his picture holding the rosary.
00:06:19.100 Now we've got open season on Christians while they're in celebrating Jesus at their Sunday worship.
00:06:26.220 What the F?
00:06:28.500 Something's happening here and it's satanic.
00:06:30.960 They decided to interrupt Sunday worship to deliver their message of, quote, justice for Renee Good and for good measure, this is just perfect, for good measure, chance of hands up, don't shoot, which is based on a lie about the 2014 police-involved shooting of Michael Brown.
00:06:51.960 Here's what's so crazy, Sonny Hostin of The View, amongst other idiot leftists, I actually think Margaret Hoover was involved in it too, who's not a leftist but behaved like a moron in this clip, did the hands up, don't shoot.
00:07:05.960 On the set of CNN in the wake of Michael Brown, Michael Brown is the reason Michael Brown got shot by the officer in Ferguson, Missouri.
00:07:15.820 Michael Brown attacked the officer as several witnesses, including five black witnesses, ultimately told Eric Holder's DOJ.
00:07:27.440 That's why he was shot by the officer as he then once again lurched forward toward the officer.
00:07:35.440 That's what happened.
00:07:37.000 Leftist liars got a lie started that he died saying, with his hands up, saying don't shoot.
00:07:44.360 It was not true.
00:07:45.820 It's been completely debunked.
00:07:47.300 It's been acknowledged as a lie by multiple leftists who write in papers like the New York Times and the Washington Post.
00:07:54.060 And yet these idiots in St. Paul, Minnesota, refuse to take the truth when it's handed to them, even by black witnesses, even by black commentators, even by a black attorney general.
00:08:07.500 They don't give a shit.
00:08:08.520 They're agenda driven.
00:08:09.620 OK, now here is the moment the protest began and a look at how the protesters hounded the parishioners.
00:08:16.320 Rene good!
00:08:19.540 Rene good!
00:08:21.820 Rene good!
00:08:24.360 Hands up!
00:08:26.360 Don't shoot!
00:08:28.220 Don't shoot!
00:08:30.340 Don't shoot!
00:08:31.520 Where are you?
00:08:33.000 Where are you?
00:08:33.700 Where are you?
00:08:34.520 Where are your people?
00:08:36.340 Why are you not at Whipple every day fighting for the humanity, standing for our people?
00:08:42.300 Where are you?
00:08:43.080 You drink your coffee, you got your jewelry, you have your nice clothes.
00:08:47.440 This is the leftists harassing the parishioners.
00:08:48.660 What do you do to stand for your Somali and Latino communities?
00:08:51.680 I'm not going to comment.
00:08:52.540 Come on, freedom!
00:08:54.300 Come on, freedom!
00:08:55.700 The parishioners being totally respectful.
00:08:57.480 The leftists marching up and down.
00:09:02.560 Fists raised.
00:09:05.420 In that montage we just played, you can hear the pastor who was leading the service say,
00:09:14.080 shame on you, and pointed the protesters to exit.
00:09:17.100 That's it.
00:09:17.800 You don't leave after that.
00:09:19.140 It's called trespass.
00:09:20.700 It's called criminal trespass.
00:09:23.800 Parishioners engaged the protesters, begging them to leave, but they did not.
00:09:27.640 By the way, they were so respectful.
00:09:30.540 That asshole, that complete asshole, we'll get to him, his last name is Kelly, who seemed
00:09:35.600 to lead the whole thing, was in the face of these parishioners.
00:09:39.820 Why aren't you standing with your Somali neighbors like they're all a bunch of racists because
00:09:43.460 they don't want to support the fraudsters who invaded Minneapolis?
00:09:46.800 Minneapolis, and the parishioners, I mean, I don't know what I would do.
00:09:50.560 I really think I would have to go jihad on these people, but these parishioners are so
00:09:54.420 kind and sweet.
00:09:55.760 They really are Minneapolis nice.
00:09:57.780 They're like, I have no comment.
00:10:00.480 Please don't.
00:10:02.020 Please leave.
00:10:02.580 You watch this online and it's almost aggravating because you want these complete cretins.
00:10:10.180 I mean, what you really want is for them to be punched in the face.
00:10:12.880 That's really what I want.
00:10:14.200 I want Jesse Kelly in that church.
00:10:16.800 That's what I want.
00:10:18.380 But instead, they got Minneapolis, Minnesota nice, and we got begging for these people
00:10:23.580 to leave, which is totally appropriate, too, but they did not.
00:10:26.800 They stayed for another 45 minutes.
00:10:29.240 According to Alpha News, which we love, they did not leave until actually the police showed
00:10:33.580 up.
00:10:33.980 Oh, great.
00:10:34.560 We finally did have police show up.
00:10:36.760 On the live feed, because BLM was live feeding this, one protester could be heard saying,
00:10:41.840 this isn't God's house.
00:10:44.120 This is the house of the devil.
00:10:45.520 Well, you made it.
00:10:47.060 You made it the house of the devil.
00:10:48.320 You brought the devil inside.
00:10:49.740 I could see it.
00:10:50.300 Didn't I say satanic right at the top?
00:10:52.100 That's how it felt.
00:10:53.760 At one point, the church began blasting music.
00:10:56.140 You heard it at the end of that clip there to try to drown out the protesters.
00:10:59.780 You know, much in the way we now hear the good guys chant USA, USA, when we hear people
00:11:04.120 try to drown out Trump or one of his nominees at their confirmation hearings.
00:11:07.420 Well, that was actually a good move.
00:11:09.840 They tried to blast Christian music to try to drown out the absurd calls of these so-called
00:11:15.820 protesters, these terrorists.
00:11:18.140 And just seconds into the protest, I'm using that word very facetiously.
00:11:23.860 This was not a protest.
00:11:25.360 This was terror.
00:11:26.860 This is terrorism.
00:11:27.640 You can see one small child upset in a pew and being comforted by his dad.
00:11:32.300 This is so sad.
00:11:33.800 Imagine your little boy not knowing what to make of this, not knowing where it was going.
00:11:37.360 Every child in America unfortunately knows that strangers sometimes come in to places
00:11:42.540 where children are to shoot them.
00:11:44.260 And now they see these bullies show up in a Baptist mass and threaten the people sitting
00:11:50.600 there, try to shame and scream in the faces of them.
00:11:53.780 A woman sitting next to the boy, likely his mom, can be seen putting her hand on his shoulder
00:11:58.180 to comfort him.
00:11:59.600 She looks bewildered.
00:12:01.360 She's probably unsure whether these protesters are just there to yell or to do something more
00:12:05.420 sinister.
00:12:06.720 We just had a shooting inside of a church a couple of months ago.
00:12:11.840 We've had multiple shootings inside of synagogues.
00:12:15.620 So these people have to worry about whether they are just going to be allowed to worship
00:12:19.580 or whether they're going to get hurt and their children are going to get hurt.
00:12:24.240 Like you can't be sure, can you?
00:12:26.160 Sadly, in this day and age.
00:12:28.340 Don Lemon, who was totally enjoying his moment in the spotlight, also catching footage of an
00:12:32.360 upset parishioner trying to get the protesters to leave.
00:12:35.380 But in true Don Lemon fashion, he justified the protesters actions.
00:12:40.160 I'm sure people here don't like it, but protests are not comfortable.
00:12:45.880 And there are people here who are, I'm looking at a young man who's in the corner, he's frightened,
00:12:49.900 he's scared, he's crying, people are leaving church.
00:12:53.880 I'm looking at a young man who's in the corner, I'm looking at a young man who's in the corner, he's crying, he's crying, they're trying to calm him down.
00:13:16.780 God bless him.
00:13:17.400 And what you can see is a, what you can see is a parishioner yelling at the, at the rioters, at the terrorists, get out, get out.
00:13:26.740 He's screaming at them, get out.
00:13:29.020 And you've got Don Lemon's running commentary that protests are not comfortable.
00:13:33.920 Guess what, Don?
00:13:35.200 You're too stupid to understand the law.
00:13:37.680 But this one also happens to be illegal.
00:13:41.360 You know how it's illegal to harass people as to show up at the abortion clinic?
00:13:45.960 You're not allowed to do that.
00:13:47.620 The law makes it clear you cannot show up right outside of the abortion clinic and harass people or any medical clinic.
00:13:55.220 Well, guess what?
00:13:56.080 That same law also applies to places of worship.
00:14:00.960 You're not allowed to do it.
00:14:02.360 There are some very limited, but this is one of them, limits on your First Amendment rights.
00:14:10.440 The law has been, the Supreme Court has made clear over and over and over and over and over that you can have restrictions on speech that govern time, place, and manner.
00:14:18.120 And that's what this so-called FACE Act is.
00:14:21.060 It's a restriction on time, place, and manner for protests around things like abortion clinics and around things like churches.
00:14:27.240 And you certainly do not have the right to go into a place of worship and harass worshiping parishioners, something you, Don Lemon, and all of your disgusting BLM terrorists are about to learn the hard way.
00:14:43.340 During the protests, Lemon talked to the pastor, who was leading the service, and had the gall to ask him,
00:14:51.520 Don't you think Jesus would understand?
00:14:55.480 I mean, this is unacceptable.
00:14:56.860 It's shameful.
00:14:57.980 It's shameful to interrupt a public gathering of Christians in worship.
00:15:05.140 But there were folks who will say...
00:15:06.540 I have to take care of my flock and my family.
00:15:09.260 Listen, we live in a...
00:15:10.020 There's a constitution in the First Amendment to freedom of speech and freedom to assemble and protest.
00:15:14.860 We're here to worship.
00:15:16.060 We're here to worship Jesus because that's the hope of these cities.
00:15:19.200 That's the hope of the world is Jesus Christ.
00:15:21.100 I want to be very respectful.
00:15:22.080 Please don't push me, though.
00:15:23.080 We're here.
00:15:23.920 We're here to worship Jesus.
00:15:25.800 That's why we're here.
00:15:26.980 Okay?
00:15:27.440 That's why we're here.
00:15:28.480 That's what we're about.
00:15:29.460 Don't you think Jesus would be understanding and love these folks?
00:15:33.500 We're about spreading the love of Jesus.
00:15:35.120 But did you try to talk to them?
00:15:36.520 As a Christian.
00:15:37.300 No one is willing to talk.
00:15:38.440 Okay.
00:15:41.180 Okay.
00:15:41.800 I need to take a deep breath.
00:15:43.280 This is so infuriating.
00:15:44.300 Some people are too stupid to be allowed into the news.
00:15:54.220 And that's saying something.
00:15:55.360 That's saying something.
00:15:56.840 Some people are too dumb to be allowed to do the news.
00:16:01.260 He's too dumb.
00:16:02.800 He's too dumb.
00:16:03.980 That's...
00:16:04.440 He's too dumb.
00:16:05.480 He's too ideological.
00:16:07.360 He's too sympathetic to the terrorists there.
00:16:11.920 And doesn't know shit about the law or the U.S. Constitution.
00:16:16.880 Has no fucking clue what he is saying to that pastor there.
00:16:20.840 That they have a First Amendment right to be there.
00:16:22.520 You're going to learn the hard way, sir, how wrong you are.
00:16:26.480 Lemon was also outside the church when some of the parishioners left.
00:16:30.280 And admitted it must have been traumatic for them.
00:16:33.060 But he says, hey, that's what protesting is all about.
00:16:36.340 Making children scared.
00:16:39.200 Such a sweet guy.
00:16:40.920 Don.
00:16:41.940 Watch.
00:16:43.460 Watch this guy here.
00:16:44.520 Look.
00:16:44.920 Hugging his kid.
00:16:47.260 And, you know, I imagine it's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here.
00:16:52.560 But, again, careful.
00:16:53.400 It's very slippery right here.
00:16:54.680 It's uncomfortable and traumatic for the people here.
00:16:56.880 But that's what really...
00:16:57.980 Careful, please.
00:16:59.080 Really slippery.
00:17:00.220 Not kidding.
00:17:02.340 That's what protesting is about.
00:17:04.720 And so...
00:17:08.040 It's about traumatizing people.
00:17:10.700 Literally.
00:17:11.160 You heard it there.
00:17:12.420 It's traumatic for people.
00:17:14.320 But that's what protesting is all about.
00:17:15.820 It's about traumatizing them.
00:17:17.800 Men, women, children.
00:17:19.660 Christians.
00:17:20.500 It's fine.
00:17:21.080 Let's get the Christians.
00:17:22.000 I'm telling you, this is a growing attitude in this country.
00:17:26.020 And it has to stop.
00:17:28.160 The whole protest was organized by Nekima Levy Armstrong.
00:17:32.100 She's a longtime BLM activist.
00:17:34.400 She's a lawyer and an idiot.
00:17:37.060 And a former law professor at the University of St. Thomas in Minneapolis.
00:17:40.420 Okay.
00:17:41.160 Never heard of it.
00:17:42.680 She says she's a reverend.
00:17:44.780 Sure.
00:17:45.320 Where?
00:17:45.880 Where do they allow this kind of behavior?
00:17:47.360 You're reverend.
00:17:49.020 Per Alpha News, Armstrong said after the protest, quote,
00:17:51.580 I feel that we did what needed to be done.
00:17:54.160 And I know that this church will never be the same after today.
00:17:57.260 You're right.
00:17:58.020 I hope you get to say that to all of your fellow inmates.
00:18:00.900 I really do.
00:18:02.120 I hope you get to...
00:18:03.240 I hope you're the one who they decide to room with the tranny roommate.
00:18:06.260 I do.
00:18:06.640 I really hope that when you actually go to pay for your crimes, you get introduced to
00:18:11.680 your side's demands that, you know, we be open and welcoming to everybody.
00:18:15.060 And you get the six foot five, huge fucking tranny posing as a woman as your roommate.
00:18:22.260 You know, the one, this just hit the news.
00:18:24.540 I think it was out of California where the guy who continued to sexually assault women
00:18:28.320 and force them to perform fellatio on him over and over got roomed next to a female or
00:18:35.940 with a female in his cell.
00:18:37.480 Why?
00:18:37.740 Because of leftists like you, madam, who think that there's no such thing as a woman and
00:18:42.800 that we can erase these lines.
00:18:44.480 How's that going to go?
00:18:46.040 I'm sorry.
00:18:46.960 Like, I'm so angry right now.
00:18:48.620 I just feel like...
00:18:50.460 What?
00:18:52.760 Something better be done.
00:18:56.300 Pam Bondi's saying it will.
00:18:58.200 Trump is saying it will.
00:19:00.140 We'll see.
00:19:01.600 Attorney General Pam Bondi writing on X, quote,
00:19:03.520 The Justice Department is investigating at my direction.
00:19:05.560 Any violation of federal law will be prosecuted.
00:19:08.260 Harmeet Dillon, the assistant AG for the DOJ's Civil Rights Division, writing on X,
00:19:12.740 A house of worship is not a public forum for your protest.
00:19:15.880 It's a space protected from exactly such acts by federal criminal and civil laws.
00:19:20.320 White House spokeswoman Caroline Leavitt weighing in, writing, quote,
00:19:23.780 President Trump will not tolerate the intimidation and harassment of Christians
00:19:27.680 in their sacred places of worship, all of which better be true.
00:19:31.820 I have every reason to believe them.
00:19:33.700 I think they're as angry as I am, and I look forward to seeing what they do with those feelings.
00:19:39.540 We check the X feeds again of Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, Minnesota Mayor Jacob Fry,
00:19:45.540 Congresswoman Ilhan Omar so far.
00:19:47.920 Zero reaction to this protest.
00:19:49.520 She's probably in the middle of her five times a day prayer.
00:19:52.340 She's probably too busy yelling Allahu Akbar and padding her husband's bank account.
00:19:58.300 She can't spare a minute for the Christians who are suffering as a result of the Somali,
00:20:04.180 hello, her people, fraud at the center of all of this.
00:20:08.260 I'm sure at some point today they're going to give their thoughts and prayers.
00:20:11.820 But whenever it comes, it's too late.
00:20:13.860 It won't be sincere because it doesn't take hours to condemn protests.
00:20:18.340 Again, terrorism inside a church that left children frightened.
00:20:23.140 And if you think all the protesters, again, I'm using that term very loosely,
00:20:26.520 were just chanting generic woke mantras, you're wrong.
00:20:29.040 One, I mentioned a moment ago, is named William Kelly.
00:20:32.300 According to Right Angle News Network, he's a paid agitator who travels from state to state
00:20:36.800 harassing ICE agents.
00:20:39.340 Why is he out on the street is the real question.
00:20:41.280 Because you see, he was arrested on Friday for reportedly impeding ICE, but was out,
00:20:47.720 thanks to the revolving door that is the criminal justice system in places like Minneapolis,
00:20:52.280 in time for Sunday's, quote, protest.
00:20:55.140 And we mean terrorism.
00:20:56.880 He got up in the faces of the worshipers.
00:21:00.360 I mean, screaming, screaming, ranting and raving about, quote, white people who are living
00:21:06.880 lavish, comfortable lives.
00:21:08.440 For the listening audience, he's white.
00:21:11.080 Watch.
00:21:12.280 As you can see, all these pretend Christians, all these comfortable white people who are living
00:21:18.440 lavish, comfortable lives while children are dragged into concentration camps.
00:21:23.280 You're living real life, nice lives with your lattes, doing absolutely nothing for your Latino
00:21:28.400 and Somali brothers and sisters.
00:21:30.640 You are a fake Christian.
00:21:32.560 Why are you not standing with your Somali and Latino communities?
00:21:36.240 Why do I not see you out at Whipple every day protesting this attack on humanity?
00:21:41.020 In the face of two young men here.
00:21:42.320 You're pretending to be Christians.
00:21:44.000 But we know you live an easy life, don't you?
00:21:46.180 Living real comfortable while children are dragged into concentration camps.
00:21:50.560 You're all living real comfortable, aren't you?
00:21:52.240 Screaming at kids in a van.
00:21:53.380 Shame on you.
00:21:54.780 Do something.
00:21:55.800 Stand with the Somali.
00:21:56.460 The girl in an American flag sweater slams the door.
00:21:58.120 Stand with the Latinos.
00:21:58.680 Get away from it.
00:21:58.980 Quit ignoring this injustice.
00:22:04.480 I suck.
00:22:05.700 Okay.
00:22:06.880 The Daily Wire's Megan Basham reports this guy's been previously linked to a group disrupting
00:22:11.440 church services in Washington, D.C., including one incident where the protesters caused a
00:22:16.340 church parishioner to go to the hospital with a shattered eardrum.
00:22:20.200 After the person screamed into a bullhorn in their face.
00:22:25.140 On TikTok, Kelly has called ICE agents Nazis.
00:22:28.480 He has said the U.S. is an evil empire and that a civil war has already begun.
00:22:33.320 And on one of his Sunday protest videos, he wrote, quote, no rest for demons.
00:22:38.220 In that, Mr. Kelly, you and I are in perfect agreement.
00:22:42.660 Who the demons are, we're going to have to fight out.
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00:24:00.300 Michael, welcome back.
00:24:02.040 This is so infuriating.
00:24:03.520 Like, it's actually making my blood boil.
00:24:05.880 I want everyone in jail.
00:24:07.220 I want all of them arrested.
00:24:09.280 I just think that this is the line beyond which we cannot allow them to cross.
00:24:14.480 I don't care if it takes the National Guard, if it takes all of Pam Bondi's DOJ, if it takes
00:24:19.040 President Trump personally making a visit to this church.
00:24:21.700 I don't care what has to be done, but this is the red line and they've crossed it.
00:24:25.900 Yes, of course, Megan.
00:24:27.020 My thought during your excellent monologue was, Megan, how do you really feel?
00:24:30.920 Will you please tell us how you really feel here?
00:24:33.240 And of course, you use this word terrorism.
00:24:35.580 That's not hyperbole.
00:24:37.220 Terrorism has a definition.
00:24:38.800 There are all sorts of violence.
00:24:40.200 There's state violence.
00:24:41.800 There's war.
00:24:42.820 There's just war.
00:24:43.620 There's law enforcement.
00:24:44.800 There are crimes of passion.
00:24:45.940 There are all different kinds of violence.
00:24:47.340 Terrorism has a specific definition.
00:24:49.420 It's when you target civilians with violence to achieve political ends.
00:24:53.820 That is exactly what happened here.
00:24:55.660 When Don Lemon goes out and he pretends, he presents himself as if he's just a journalist
00:25:01.440 covering this.
00:25:02.340 Now it seems, though, he actually was working with the agitators.
00:25:06.680 When he says that protest is about traumatizing people, that just isn't true.
00:25:11.700 I'm sure he's not familiar with the Constitution or the meaning of most words.
00:25:15.080 But protesting is for peaceably assembling to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
00:25:21.440 That's where the supposed right to protest comes from in the Constitution.
00:25:25.320 When you traumatize kids at church to achieve a political end, that is a form of terrorism.
00:25:31.280 And to your point, Megan, it violates federal law because there's this law, which is frankly
00:25:36.140 preposterous, which says that Christians and people who want to just generally people who
00:25:40.900 want to defend innocent human life are limited when they advocate outside of abortion clinics.
00:25:46.100 The FACE Act was passed, and the only way they were able to ram it through is to say,
00:25:49.520 look, we'll stop demonstrations at abortion clinics, but we'll also stop demonstrations
00:25:54.760 at churches.
00:25:55.800 So you've got the churches.
00:25:56.940 That's exactly right.
00:25:57.860 The church of the right is just church, and the church of the left is the abortion clinic.
00:26:03.320 And I'm even thinking of the line of Peter Kreeft, a brilliant observation, which is that
00:26:07.900 abortion is the sacrament of the left.
00:26:10.500 It even uses the centerpiece of the Christian liturgy, the Holy Communion, when the priest says,
00:26:16.720 this is my body, he's quoting Christ, this is my body, which will be given up for you.
00:26:21.420 And the left takes it and inverts it to satanic purposes, says, this is my body, you know,
00:26:26.220 and they use it to sacrifice a little baby.
00:26:28.100 So the FACE Act is supposed to protect both.
00:26:30.420 It's only ever really used to protect the abortion clinics.
00:26:33.500 Well, here, yes, obviously the federal government has to get involved.
00:26:37.220 The one part I disagree with, though, in your monologue, Megan, is when you say these people
00:26:41.260 are busting in.
00:26:42.100 This is, for some people, the one time of the week when they feel closest to Christ,
00:26:46.300 and they're praying, and they're worshiping, and this gives them some comfort.
00:26:50.300 And, you know, the left, they don't know that.
00:26:52.420 I think the left does know that.
00:26:53.980 You know, I think actually you see throughout history, they always target the churches.
00:26:58.580 They target the churches in the French Revolution, in the Bolshevik Revolution, in the Spanish
00:27:02.780 Civil War, in Mexico.
00:27:04.460 They do it for a purpose.
00:27:05.980 I'm reminded there was this clip going viral of a BBC presenter.
00:27:09.360 She was interviewing a young man, said, who are your heroes?
00:27:11.440 He said, Kendrick Lamar, and my biggest hero is Jesus.
00:27:14.080 She audibly hisses.
00:27:15.800 This is something out of the New Testament, like there's a demon there or something.
00:27:19.500 You know, this is really spooky stuff.
00:27:22.580 And you see this nasty spirit animating leftist agitators throughout history.
00:27:29.340 Yes, I honestly, like I've never felt so aware of demonic forces around us.
00:27:37.840 I truly haven't, like, started with Charlie Kirk's assassination, Michael, and I have just felt
00:27:44.420 like they're everywhere ever since.
00:27:47.220 Something has been unleashed that feels truly unholy.
00:27:51.600 We have never needed St. Michael more than right now.
00:27:55.460 And, like, to cross into somebody's place of worship, I do wonder, you know, it'll be very
00:28:02.060 interesting to see how the mainstream covers this today.
00:28:04.420 Because I guarantee if you had a bunch of white MAGA types invading a mosque, this would
00:28:12.080 be everywhere.
00:28:13.280 And, like, I wonder, how would it be covered if you had a bunch of people invading a synagogue
00:28:20.900 in today's day and age and getting in the face of Jewish worshipers?
00:28:25.420 Will there be any understanding or empathy for Christians who are in there worshiping on
00:28:31.740 a Sunday at a Baptist service?
00:28:33.820 Here's how Don Lemon saw it moments before he joined the resistance organization to go into
00:28:40.300 that church.
00:28:40.920 This is him outside of the church at the initial meeting.
00:28:44.560 Seems pretty clear he knew exactly what they were about to do in SOT 6.
00:28:48.460 Well, this is kind of MAGA-coded, right?
00:28:50.760 Saw the American flag or whatever.
00:28:52.160 But these are resistance protesters.
00:28:54.060 They're planning an operation that we're going to follow them on.
00:28:56.500 I can't tell you exactly what they're doing, but it's called Operation Pull-Up.
00:29:00.380 Again, this is an operation that is a secret that they invited folks out.
00:29:06.440 I can't tell you what is going to happen, but you're going to watch it live unfold here
00:29:10.360 on the Don Lemon Show.
00:29:12.600 There are this, for this reason, looks, for this reason, it may look like MAGA-coded,
00:29:23.680 but there's a reason they have so many white people here.
00:29:26.520 I'm just going to be honest.
00:29:27.320 It's because of the operation that they're doing today.
00:29:30.360 It's important to have allies, as they said, white allies here.
00:29:33.580 This is unbelievable.
00:29:37.540 The flag and the white people make it, quote, MAGA-coded.
00:29:42.920 They had to have whites.
00:29:44.360 He wants to excuse the presence of whites to his audience with his stupid DL mic flag,
00:29:50.880 Don Lemon mic flag.
00:29:52.040 Okay, Don.
00:29:53.100 He's really missing his CNN days when he mattered.
00:29:56.160 He has to excuse the presence of white people there because, you see, he's about to do the
00:30:04.020 big reveal.
00:30:04.660 They're going into a Baptist church service.
00:30:07.280 And so, you see, you need some whites.
00:30:09.680 Hello?
00:30:10.240 Lots of black people are Baptists, too.
00:30:12.260 You'd think you'd know that, but no.
00:30:14.520 And you need the white allies there, you see, because you're going to go confront a bunch
00:30:17.680 of white Baptists in Minneapolis.
00:30:19.780 As he makes very clear he knows what's about to happen, Michael, and truly, after that
00:30:23.820 pastor said, get out, every single one of them was guilty of trespass, including Don
00:30:27.260 Lemon.
00:30:27.420 Of course.
00:30:27.900 He makes a number of uncomfortable admissions right now, which he should get blowback for
00:30:32.380 in the media.
00:30:32.980 But also, he's probably going to have blowback from prosecutors on.
00:30:36.160 He's admitting that he's in on it.
00:30:37.840 He's clearly one of the organizers of this.
00:30:39.640 But even the worst admission, I think, is when he comes out and he says, yeah, and you
00:30:44.420 know, it's MAGA-coded.
00:30:45.440 I mean, they've got American flags or like whatever.
00:30:48.040 As if to say, our political movement, the left-wing political movement, is anti-America.
00:30:53.320 He says, yeah, there's some white people, you know, like, I'm sorry about that, you know,
00:30:56.540 but we have to do it.
00:30:57.540 It's MAGA-coded.
00:30:58.540 As if to say, our political movement, the left-wing political movement, is anti-white
00:31:02.440 people.
00:31:03.280 It's anti-white.
00:31:04.540 Right, everybody knows that.
00:31:05.440 It's anti-Americans.
00:31:05.960 It's anti-Christian.
00:31:07.260 Obviously, it is.
00:31:08.600 And so, you know, when you ask, how will this be covered?
00:31:12.160 By the establishment outlets, they'll try to downplay it entirely.
00:31:15.680 You know, if this were a mosque, this would be treated as the worst, most egregious form
00:31:19.380 of terrorism ever in the history of the world, because the left uniformly seems to worship
00:31:23.500 Muslims, not because they agree with Islam, but because they all have a common enemy, which
00:31:27.480 is the country and Christianity.
00:31:29.680 If it were a synagogue, it would probably be 50-50, because some of the left is pro-Jews.
00:31:35.160 A lot of the left is anti-Jews.
00:31:36.860 You would have mixed coverage of it.
00:31:38.600 The one thing the left is certainly in agreement on, though, is it's anti-Christian.
00:31:42.820 And so they go in there.
00:31:44.700 Don Lemon is obviously helping to organize this thing.
00:31:46.840 He says, I have a little secret, but I'm not going to let you in on it right now.
00:31:49.500 And then he gets up in the face of that pastor and just-
00:31:52.060 Let me, wait, hold that thought.
00:31:53.120 I want to give you the exact quote.
00:31:54.680 He's in the car beforehand, in the car before the thought we showed.
00:31:58.200 He says, quote, we don't know what's happening.
00:32:00.940 We kind of do.
00:32:02.480 But we don't know how it's going to play out, right?
00:32:04.740 And he mentioned the word church accidentally before they arrived.
00:32:08.100 He was obviously trying to hide where they were going on the way over during the live stream.
00:32:11.440 But he knew full well what they were about to do.
00:32:13.300 Keep going.
00:32:13.680 These are the secret plans that Don, you know, is letting slip a little bit.
00:32:17.060 The very fact that he has the secret, you know, tells you he's complicit.
00:32:20.200 And then he goes up in the face of-
00:32:21.740 Not exactly a Navy SEAL, is he?
00:32:24.300 I would not send him into Venezuela, okay?
00:32:26.600 That guy is not clandestine.
00:32:28.420 But he goes up to that pastor and he starts mocking him.
00:32:31.700 And this is what the leftist radicals have been doing to Christians going back at least
00:32:35.080 to the French Revolution.
00:32:36.800 Frankly, this is what opponents of Christianity have been doing going back to ancient Rome
00:32:41.020 is they mock the Christians.
00:32:42.800 And so he says, well, I thought you were a Christian.
00:32:44.760 Why aren't you just talking to these people who obviously have no right to just invade,
00:32:48.800 interrupt a worship service?
00:32:50.560 And he's like, why don't you just talk to them?
00:32:52.280 You can hear them shrieking and screaming in the background.
00:32:55.100 Good on the pastor for saying, you know, I don't think they want to talk.
00:32:58.260 I don't think anyone's interested in talking here.
00:33:00.040 And this obviously is not the time or place for that.
00:33:02.340 Then Don Lemon had actually cut out, but a little bit later in that clip, Don Lemon says,
00:33:06.160 well, look, I mean, I'm a Christian.
00:33:07.680 Look, I'm a Christian.
00:33:08.460 And you have to ask yourself, in what meaningful way is this man a Christian?
00:33:11.660 We don't need to get into his personal life, but even just his public behavior here,
00:33:15.640 it doesn't check out.
00:33:17.720 I mean, his personal life is relevant to the following extent.
00:33:20.200 He has no children.
00:33:21.660 He's a gay man in a gay marriage with no children.
00:33:23.980 And he has absolutely no empathy for the children sitting there.
00:33:26.820 I mean, he really doesn't.
00:33:27.660 He's like, too bad.
00:33:29.000 Trauma's all part of it.
00:33:30.380 Suck it up.
00:33:31.220 As mothers comforting their young sons is apparently so long ago in his history,
00:33:36.780 if it ever happened between Don and his own mom,
00:33:39.660 that he's forgotten that children actually do have a right to feel safe,
00:33:43.680 especially in a place of worship, and might feel unsafe with Mr. Kelly, a serial agitator
00:33:49.960 who's running around actually hurting people, bursts into his church and screams in his face
00:33:55.220 in the face of his parents.
00:33:56.560 Don doesn't seem to understand that at all.
00:33:58.460 Maybe if he actually had a child, he might.
00:34:01.000 And don't forget, in the specific context here, it's not just the kids have been accustomed
00:34:04.920 since Columbine to recognize that in schools, in churches, in public places,
00:34:09.800 they could be shot up.
00:34:11.000 They could be targeted.
00:34:12.180 But specifically, there was-
00:34:13.760 Which just happened.
00:34:14.820 Michael, just-
00:34:15.380 In Minnesota.
00:34:15.500 Yeah, were you just going to say it just happened?
00:34:17.240 Yes, in Minneapolis.
00:34:18.140 Yes.
00:34:18.680 Like, it just happened.
00:34:19.840 Yes.
00:34:20.180 And the nerve, the nerve-
00:34:21.000 Specifically Christian kids.
00:34:22.020 Yes, exactly.
00:34:24.900 And absolutely no sympathy or empathy for them whatsoever.
00:34:27.880 The law, there is the trespass law.
00:34:30.560 And by the way, you as a journalist can violate it.
00:34:33.340 If you go into a private place without permission, or even a public place where permission is then
00:34:38.880 withdrawn, meaning you're told to leave and you don't, you absolutely can be prosecuted
00:34:44.140 for trespass.
00:34:45.220 But there is also this FACE Act that you point out was originally meant to target abortion clinic
00:34:50.260 protests, and the quid pro quo from the right was, well, you also have to include churches,
00:34:54.220 which is really just a fig leaf until now, you know, until you have Trump and Bondi in
00:34:57.860 there who are actually saying, you know what, we're going to enforce it.
00:35:01.080 And it says, this act prohibits the use of threat of force and physical obstruction that
00:35:09.920 either injures, intimidates, or interferes, or threatens to, attempts to injure, intimidate,
00:35:18.460 or interfere with any person who is pursuing their, exercising their First Amendment right
00:35:28.400 of religious freedom at a place of religious worship.
00:35:32.480 So you, and you, so physical obstruction is enough that is attempting to interfere with
00:35:39.100 or intimidate any person at church.
00:35:41.920 Got it?
00:35:42.360 So it boils down to, have you, have you, by threat of force or by physical obstruction,
00:35:49.920 attempted to intimidate or interfere with somebody at worship?
00:35:55.340 That, the answer is yes.
00:35:57.240 It's on camera.
00:35:57.520 It's yes to all of them.
00:35:58.720 Obviously.
00:35:59.200 I mean, they're, it's on camera.
00:36:00.340 They're basically bragging about it.
00:36:01.940 And so this is why the question of how will this be covered, I think has to lead us to
00:36:06.800 the conclusion that it doesn't matter how it's covered.
00:36:09.460 I don't care what the news networks say.
00:36:11.180 I don't care what the New York times writes or doesn't write about it.
00:36:13.920 We are in the government right now.
00:36:15.480 And the, the only way that you are going to discourage this is through a massive show
00:36:20.340 of just force of force that is very much in accordance with justice and with the law.
00:36:25.280 But that's what's, that's, what's going to do it.
00:36:27.460 Okay.
00:36:27.860 The law is a teacher.
00:36:29.300 And so we need to round all these people up.
00:36:31.360 The Biden was able to round up every Midwestern granny who took a selfie in the Capitol rotunda
00:36:36.780 on January 6th, including journalists.
00:36:39.460 Yes, exactly.
00:36:40.620 And here we need to round all of these people up who broke the law.
00:36:44.180 That includes Don Lemon.
00:36:45.380 We need to tell them no, in many ways, what's going on in Minneapolis right now is the consequence
00:36:50.440 of the left encouraging people to violate the law and never holding them to account.
00:36:55.080 So when that, that lady who ended up getting shot by the ice officer, cause she ran her
00:36:58.880 car into him when she was shot, I felt sympathy for her because she didn't think there would
00:37:03.460 be consequences to their actions.
00:37:04.740 Look at Minneapolis after George Floyd, look at the left rioting and, and disrespecting
00:37:09.340 law enforcement and even attacking law enforcement for years now.
00:37:12.140 Of course, she didn't expect consequences.
00:37:14.200 That's a pity.
00:37:15.320 We cannot give up law and order because of that.
00:37:17.760 We need to remind people there will be consequences.
00:37:20.220 This will not be tolerated.
00:37:22.320 You will not be permitted to obstruct law enforcement.
00:37:25.380 You will not be permitted to target Christians.
00:37:27.920 You will not be permitted to scandalize little kids.
00:37:30.340 I mean, that issue frankly takes us all the way to the transgender fights that we've
00:37:34.220 been having in recent years.
00:37:35.480 You have to make clear that there is order.
00:37:37.680 What you mentioned, Charlie Kirk's assassination after Charlie was assassinated.
00:37:41.300 A lot of people, I think in some ways to cope and process our grief, we said, well, you know,
00:37:45.860 you might've assassinated one of the great conservative leaders, but we'll only be stronger
00:37:50.120 after this.
00:37:50.940 And sometimes that's true.
00:37:53.140 Unfortunately, usually it's not.
00:37:54.620 The reason why people keep doing assassinations is because by and large assassinations work.
00:37:59.780 That's a very hard truth.
00:38:01.480 And frankly, Charlie's assassination did create a lot of turmoil and division on the
00:38:05.920 right.
00:38:06.180 That's what it was designed to do.
00:38:07.540 That's what it did.
00:38:08.580 The reason that the left goes in to the churches is because they can intimidate Christians and
00:38:13.860 by and large, it actually does work.
00:38:15.920 The reason why they obstruct law enforcement is they can stop law enforcement from carrying
00:38:19.940 out the law.
00:38:20.640 By and large, it does work.
00:38:21.880 We have to prove to them that it does not work.
00:38:24.900 This is not merely a matter of, you know, appeasing our passions or even bringing about
00:38:30.280 some retribution because these clips get our blood boiling.
00:38:32.920 This is an existential matter for law and order in the United States.
00:38:36.180 If we're going to allow roving leftist mobs to go in and traumatize their word, not ours,
00:38:41.880 traumatize little Christian kids while they pray to God, we might as well give up the constitutional
00:38:46.560 order because it would be meaningless.
00:38:49.300 I know, Michael, I don't know about you.
00:38:51.000 I'm ready to get on a plane and go to Minneapolis right now.
00:38:53.240 I truly am like if you and I and Matt Walsh, he's coming on in 20 minutes, have to sit
00:38:58.960 outside of these churches all day on Sunday, then we'll do that.
00:39:01.780 Then we will do that.
00:39:03.160 But like there are actually National Guardsmen who are better suited to do it.
00:39:07.780 And I know Trump doesn't want to issue the Insurrection Act.
00:39:10.900 His poll numbers are not going in the right direction on all of this.
00:39:14.180 But this cannot be allowed.
00:39:16.860 And what we can do, however, is we can show every single one of those faces.
00:39:20.460 And we zeroed in on this activist, Kelly, because he's an obvious cretin, a loud mouth and injurer.
00:39:26.180 But there are multiple, multiple BLM are standing there.
00:39:29.740 These are not all the white people.
00:39:31.420 Some are black standing there.
00:39:33.280 Totally fine with traumatizing the children and the innocence in that mass.
00:39:37.600 And just for listening audience, you see these people they're targeting to harass us,
00:39:40.360 scream in their faces.
00:39:41.020 It's like young Midwestern men who look maybe 18, 19 with like V-neck sweaters on with their
00:39:49.980 little tie on underneath their V-neck sweater, just there with like a clean cut haircut, just
00:39:55.700 there to worship on a Sunday.
00:39:57.740 Like you see this guy Kelly in his little vest screaming at them, why aren't you supporting
00:40:04.640 your Somali neighbors, this like obnoxious, obviously crazy white guy with this crazy facial
00:40:11.200 hair and like these sweet, God-fearing Midwesterners, Michael.
00:40:16.060 And you know who the good guys are.
00:40:18.340 I just want to show you one more Don Lemon clip because here he is.
00:40:21.740 This is so indicative of the press, right?
00:40:23.440 This guy was like the face of CNN.
00:40:25.540 So he gets in the face of one of these parishioners right outside and this man, who's a little
00:40:30.580 on the older side, very articulately defends what ICE is doing and some of the news story
00:40:36.960 that Don Lemon raises and Don Lemon gets frustrated and basically writes the guy off as a know
00:40:42.160 nothing.
00:40:42.520 But here's part of it in Sod 8.
00:40:44.360 On one side are people who watch a previous administration bring 12 million people in over
00:40:52.420 the course of four years, and many of them undocumented, many of them criminals, etc.
00:41:00.280 At the same time, these are what are called targeted interventions by ICE to keep the American
00:41:07.280 people safe.
00:41:08.320 If I respectfully may interject here, I've been out reporting on a lot of these and they're
00:41:12.260 not targeted.
00:41:13.060 There are no warrants signed by a judge.
00:41:15.700 Let me finish.
00:41:16.820 And they're American citizens, many of them.
00:41:18.820 Most of the people that they detain don't have criminal convictions or criminal records.
00:41:22.520 I'm not going to get into the weeds.
00:41:24.080 But you should know that, though.
00:41:25.160 Don't you think that's part of it?
00:41:26.400 One administration caused a great deal of chaos and havoc and danger for American citizens,
00:41:32.520 and another is trying to correct that.
00:41:34.200 Do you believe that?
00:41:35.840 Honestly, let me tell you just on the facts.
00:41:38.120 You're not a journalist.
00:41:38.580 Yes, I am.
00:41:39.080 I want to give you the facts.
00:41:40.040 No, no, no.
00:41:40.660 Did you know that undocumented people and immigrants commit far less crime than American citizens?
00:41:46.160 We're done.
00:41:48.820 How brilliant was that man, not taking his facts from Don Lemon, who tried to say the
00:41:53.840 vast majority of people being arrested have no criminal record.
00:41:56.380 You should know that.
00:41:57.300 That's a lie.
00:41:58.580 Kristi Noem has put the number over 70 percent who have been arrested by ICE have an additional
00:42:03.900 crime.
00:42:05.460 That's the reason ICE was looking for them.
00:42:07.260 And we've documented before that in the vast majority of those cases, it's a violent crime.
00:42:11.680 Of course, you know, the idea that they commit crime at lower rates or they don't use the
00:42:17.540 welfare system or that, you know, they come up with all of these second and third order
00:42:20.840 excuses.
00:42:21.400 First of all, their premises are false.
00:42:23.040 But even if that were true, which it's not, they have no right to be here.
00:42:27.860 The federal government has not only the right, but the responsibility to remove these people
00:42:31.900 from the country because of all of the downstream effects.
00:42:34.600 Get out.
00:42:34.780 Yes.
00:42:35.360 And so, you know, I pointed out the downside of left wing violence, which is that it works.
00:42:40.680 It does work.
00:42:41.200 That's why they do it, because it can work.
00:42:42.760 But the flip side of that is when we enforce the law, when we do what we're supposed to
00:42:46.460 do, what the people elected Republicans to do, that has a downstream effect as well.
00:42:50.640 You just look, if the heart of this is this immigration debate and the libs are so forceful
00:42:54.400 over immigration because they think it'll give them a permanent electoral majority.
00:42:58.200 If you just look at that debate from last year, the fact that Trump deported formally well
00:43:02.980 over half a million people and then through self-deportations could be well over two million
00:43:06.580 people, depending on the labor statistics you're looking at or what have you, at the
00:43:10.460 very least, you had a lot of people leaving and you had the border closed.
00:43:13.400 You saw drug overdose deaths decline for most of last year.
00:43:16.560 You saw rents decrease four months in a row, month over month.
00:43:20.220 Why is it?
00:43:20.780 You saw a lot of these downstream effects.
00:43:23.160 Why?
00:43:24.220 Because state action also has has political consequences as well.
00:43:28.600 So there's no substitute here.
00:43:30.500 You know, it's good that we feel righteous indignation.
00:43:34.040 It's good.
00:43:34.600 St. Thomas Aquinas, no less in authority than he, points out that if you don't feel anger
00:43:38.800 at injustice, something's wrong with you.
00:43:41.040 If you don't feel anger looking at these scenes, what these this mob has done to this church
00:43:44.840 congregation, there's something a little bit wrong with you.
00:43:47.180 But that can't be the end of it.
00:43:48.780 That will be fruitless.
00:43:50.320 That will be worse than fruitless if if we don't follow that up with real political action
00:43:55.100 and arrest these people for the crimes that they're committing.
00:43:57.780 Put them in prison for as long as we possibly can.
00:44:00.980 Stifle the agitation that we're seeing throughout Minneapolis and stop it from spreading to
00:44:06.160 the rest of the country.
00:44:07.180 If we do that long enough, we keep shipping out the criminals.
00:44:09.920 We keep suppressing the criminals that we have in our own country.
00:44:12.820 We reestablish norms and order.
00:44:14.820 If we do that long enough, guess what?
00:44:16.620 Before you know it, you're going to look up and you're gonna have a normal country again.
00:44:19.380 If we don't, if we abdicate our responsibility, this is coming to a church near you.
00:44:23.400 Absolutely.
00:44:26.160 This needs to be met with the strong arm of the law.
00:44:30.480 And I mean, the thing we're up against, of course, is what's going to happen when and
00:44:34.820 if these people are arrested.
00:44:36.460 Because I mentioned this guy, William Kelly, who was arrested on Friday and was out in time
00:44:43.160 to disrupt this Sunday service.
00:44:46.280 This is him on camera on TikTok explaining the fact that he was arrested on Friday before
00:44:51.340 this church protest.
00:44:52.600 Take a listen.
00:44:53.540 It's not 11.
00:44:55.180 Today, I got arrested for being in a street.
00:44:57.960 I wasn't impeding traffic.
00:44:59.700 I was just scolding Nazis for their bad decisions.
00:45:02.980 And they came up, they lined up, and then they sprinted after me.
00:45:07.160 And they chased me for blocks.
00:45:09.340 I was running for my life.
00:45:10.960 I was scared.
00:45:11.500 I don't know what they're going to do to me.
00:45:12.860 They're fucking Nazis.
00:45:14.340 Sure you are.
00:45:14.660 A woman was filming me from her minivan and I begged her to let me in because I was scared.
00:45:19.180 So I jumped in the back of her minivan.
00:45:20.940 And you know what they did?
00:45:21.820 They came up and they put a gun to her face.
00:45:24.880 They pulled a pistol on her and put a gun to her face.
00:45:29.040 This is not America.
00:45:30.880 This is not freedom.
00:45:32.120 He seems hinged.
00:45:37.580 Generally speaking, this is like a rule of thumb in politics.
00:45:40.180 When people are screaming at the top of their lungs in voices that seem about to proclaim my name is legion for we are many, those are not the guys you want to side with.
00:45:50.020 Those guys have problems.
00:45:51.720 And it is a mercy to arrest them.
00:45:54.720 This is a point, by the way, because there are lovely, sweet people, including Christians and moderate conservatives who say, well, look, don't we want to be nice?
00:46:03.040 And we don't want to be we don't need to arrest all of them.
00:46:05.260 And maybe we should stop deporting the illegal aliens.
00:46:07.920 We just want to be nice, nice, nice.
00:46:09.220 The premise there is fundamentally flawed.
00:46:12.240 And this goes back all the way, not just in the Christian tradition, but even back to good old philosophy in ancient Greece.
00:46:19.000 The premise here is it's good to the bad guys if you let them off the hook.
00:46:23.620 It's not good.
00:46:24.240 It's really bad to the innocent people when you let the bad guys off the hook because they can torch their cities and commit a lot of crimes.
00:46:30.080 But it's bad for the bad guys, too.
00:46:31.800 Do you think this guy is flourishing?
00:46:33.300 Do you think this guy did he call in sick from work to go obstruct law enforcement and shriek in a church?
00:46:38.360 Someone tells me he's not the most gainfully employed guy in the world.
00:46:41.260 He doesn't have his life together.
00:46:42.520 Something's really wrong with him.
00:46:43.880 We need to arrest him for the actual crimes he's committed and punish him for the crimes he's committed.
00:46:48.440 But one of the benefits of our correctional system is we correct people.
00:46:51.960 We can rehabilitate him.
00:46:53.500 He's living a bad life, and it will be an act of mercy when Tom Homan or Kristi Noem or anybody else from law enforcement shows up at his home, maybe Stephen Miller, and drags him out and brings this guy a little bit back to sanity.
00:47:06.400 Whatever he's doing right now is not good for him, and it's certainly not good for society.
00:47:11.560 Yeah, no, the flourishing is a no.
00:47:14.700 He's not flourishing.
00:47:16.340 Agreed.
00:47:16.920 And he won't be flourishing if he also gets put in the room with the tranny six-foot-five guy.
00:47:22.920 I mean, I don't think that guy cares who fellates him.
00:47:26.160 I want to talk about Ilhan Omar, who's very upset.
00:47:30.420 She's very upset not about the fraud that the Somalis from her own home country are committing here in the United States, but about the ICE behavior and the investigations.
00:47:40.000 Here she is at a hearing on Friday in Minneapolis, SOT 16.
00:47:44.760 It is appalling for our Republican colleagues to be okay, for there to be cell detations in ICE for American citizens.
00:47:54.960 It is appalling for them to be okay, for there to be checkpoints in American cities where people are asked for their papers.
00:48:03.380 And it is appalling for Americans to have to carry their citizen papers only to be told they are not sure if those papers are correct.
00:48:16.180 I don't want to curse, but those of us who escaped places like that, the one place where we thought we would never experience this is the U.S. goddamn states.
00:48:32.440 Ha ha, let me see your papers.
00:48:36.840 And why'd you marry your brother?
00:48:38.780 Yeah, her papers are a little bit suspect.
00:48:40.180 America wants to know.
00:48:41.240 Yes.
00:48:41.960 Yeah, I want to see your paper.
00:48:43.160 And she talked about papers, Michael.
00:48:44.760 She's like your driver's license.
00:48:46.160 Show me your driver's license.
00:48:46.760 And by the way, she talks about how they're just stopping random people.
00:48:50.320 No, ICE has a list of people they are looking for.
00:48:53.180 And if Minneapolis and Minnesota would just cooperate with them in handing over, the vast majority of these people are already in the criminal justice system.
00:49:00.100 They could have been nabbed at the police station, but they won't do that.
00:49:02.400 So now ICE has got to track them down in their apartment buildings and make it sound like they're just at a random red light saying, like, show me your social security number and your birth certificate.
00:49:09.440 That's bullshit.
00:49:10.960 I love the performative preface.
00:49:13.880 She says, you know, I don't want to curse.
00:49:16.820 And you think, well, look, people use salty language.
00:49:18.620 But if you have the presence of mind to say, I don't want to curse, and then you say this naughty word, you clearly want to.
00:49:24.880 So first of all, you know, she's a liar off the bat.
00:49:27.040 But the funny thing about this Ilhan Omar clip is I actually agree with what she's saying.
00:49:32.320 I don't agree with her conclusion.
00:49:33.380 But she says, it's appalling that in America we have to have people carry their papers and we don't know if their papers are real.
00:49:39.640 So, yeah, it is appalling that your party let tens of millions of foreign criminals into this country.
00:49:46.020 I wish we didn't have to do that.
00:49:47.300 I wish we had social solidarity and we didn't have tens of millions of foreign criminals at.
00:49:50.880 But we are where we are.
00:49:51.900 You've got to play the hand you're dealt.
00:49:53.120 We're trying to get them out.
00:49:54.040 You don't want to get them out.
00:49:54.940 But, yeah, that's why we have to do this is because of you.
00:49:57.360 But then second of all, she says, and I come from this place and I got refuge from this bad country and now I'm here in this – what does she say?
00:50:05.060 The word she uses calls America godforsaken.
00:50:08.140 Worse than that.
00:50:08.620 It says that America is a damned country.
00:50:10.660 And so she doesn't like the country.
00:50:12.680 She thinks it's in a really bad spot and she thinks it's just as bad as the country she came from.
00:50:16.460 Well, great.
00:50:17.440 I guess we agree in that you don't want to be here, Ilhan Omar, because this is such a bad place.
00:50:23.440 And I don't want you here, Ilhan Omar, because you make the country worse.
00:50:27.560 So we have this rare moment of agreement and we should just go our separate ways.
00:50:32.040 You can go back to Star Wars land and we can stay here in America and we'll all be better for it.
00:50:38.640 Totally.
00:50:39.260 No one will miss you.
00:50:40.700 And I guess where you come from, you're allowed to marry your brother?
00:50:43.460 I don't know.
00:50:43.980 It was an odd thing for you to do.
00:50:45.600 We all know why you did it.
00:50:46.820 And now, as we reported earlier, she's under investigation for her husband's very bizarre $30 million income in a year.
00:50:55.480 He went from something like low thousands in income to over $30 million.
00:51:01.680 And now he's being investigated by the House Oversight Committee and others.
00:51:06.300 So we'll see how that works out for her.
00:51:08.100 Michael Knowles, as always with you, it was too short.
00:51:11.100 I love having you on.
00:51:12.740 Please come back soon.
00:51:13.520 Marvelous to be with you, Megan.
00:51:14.580 See you next time.
00:51:15.000 All right.
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00:53:30.020 Now we're joined for more on the absolute insanity coming out of Minneapolis and across the country by Matt Walsh.
00:53:40.040 He's hosted the Matt Walsh Show on the Daily Wire, and he has a new and important series called Real History with Matt Walsh, which we will get to shortly.
00:53:49.240 But he's trying to write the record on the bullshit that is being spun by leftists who hate America.
00:53:57.140 And it's long overdue.
00:53:58.620 Somebody took that on.
00:53:59.660 But first, we're going to stick with Minneapolis.
00:54:01.320 Matt, welcome back.
00:54:01.940 Great to see you.
00:54:03.220 Thanks for having me.
00:54:03.800 Okay, a little bit of a delay, but we'll manage it.
00:54:07.420 We left off with Michael Knowles a bit on Don Lemon.
00:54:10.500 Here's one more soundbite.
00:54:11.700 Now that he realizes that he might be in trouble with the Department of Justice for appearing to trespass, meaning stay longer than invited and refuse to leave once explicitly told to, among others, I mean, he could potentially be in danger under the SAFE Act,
00:54:26.840 the thing that disallows physical obstruction of parishioners or others at a place of worship.
00:54:33.700 He comes out with the following defense this morning, SOT7.
00:54:37.160 I had no affiliation to that organization.
00:54:39.560 I didn't even know they were going to this church until we followed them there.
00:54:43.040 We were there chronicling protests.
00:54:46.300 Once the protests started in the church, we did an act of journalism, which was report on it and talk to the people who were involved, which included the pastor, members of the church, and members of the organization.
00:54:56.840 That's it.
00:54:58.020 It's called journalism.
00:54:59.860 First Amendment, all that stuff.
00:55:02.800 All of you people who believe in the First Amendment absolutist.
00:55:06.520 There you go.
00:55:07.380 So why don't you talk to the actual person who is in charge of the organization and whose idea it was to have the protests at the church before you start blaming me for stuff for which you have no idea.
00:55:21.860 Thank you for your attention for this matter.
00:55:23.820 I mean, he's on camera saying we don't know what's happening.
00:55:29.380 We kind of do, but we don't know how it's going to play out, mentioning the church repeatedly before they even arrived.
00:55:36.320 So I get the feeling, Matt, that Don Lemon might not be telling us the perfect truth there.
00:55:42.060 Yeah, well, I mean, so unlike Don Lemon did not tell the truth.
00:55:46.260 I mean, it doesn't matter anyway.
00:55:47.820 Yes, we have him.
00:55:49.360 I mean, he has himself.
00:55:50.480 So he incriminated himself by recording all this, live streaming it.
00:55:53.640 And we saw him out in the parking lot outside of the church before they went in.
00:55:58.960 And so we know that he knew exactly what was happening.
00:56:01.320 But even if he didn't, let's just say that he saw this band of leftists walking down the street and just decided to join them randomly, which no thinking person believes doesn't matter.
00:56:11.180 He saw once you see them going into the church to disrupt church services and commit a federal crime, actually committed committed probably a whole host of crimes, federal and state crimes.
00:56:22.160 But once you see them doing that, that's where if you don't want to also commit the crime, you would just, you know, take a left turn and go do something else with your time.
00:56:29.760 He decided to follow them in and participate in that.
00:56:32.340 And and he justified it the entire time and made it very clear that, you know, this was not just like objective reporting.
00:56:39.080 He wasn't critical of them.
00:56:40.300 He wasn't even objective about it.
00:56:41.560 He was very much in support of it.
00:56:43.480 So this really and now he's trying to backtrack because he's worried.
00:56:46.540 And I hope he has something to worry about.
00:56:48.060 I mean, this comes down to the Trump administration who, you know, they it's it's one thing to do the investigations and all of that kind of stuff.
00:56:56.060 And I think they're saying the right things in the wake of this and mentioning the fact this is probably a violation of the FACE Act and everything else.
00:57:02.840 But now is the next part where you send a SWAT team in to Don Lemon's house and you drag him out before dawn and you perp walk him in front of cameras and then you throw him in prison.
00:57:13.800 Because guess what? It's exactly what the Biden administration did to peaceful pro-lifers.
00:57:19.000 And and now we do the exact same.
00:57:21.120 It's time for these people to get a real dose of their own medicine for a change.
00:57:25.040 Yes. FACE Act. Thank you.
00:57:26.200 And I said safe. That's not right.
00:57:27.840 Face. Here's more of Don Lemon inside the church making clear, as you point out, whose side he he's on.
00:57:33.960 And again, again, trying to defend what these protesters were doing.
00:57:39.300 And obviously because he was a part of it.
00:57:41.300 Here's SOT 9.
00:57:41.940 I'm sure they probably call the local authorities right now and they'll show up in a bit.
00:57:46.180 But so far, no one has been hurt.
00:57:48.620 People are just really angry and upset.
00:57:50.860 Members of the church are trying to get them to calm down.
00:57:53.500 But this is the beginning of what's going to happen here.
00:57:55.560 When you violate people's due process, when you pull people off the street and you start dragging them and hurting them and and not abiding by the Constitution,
00:58:05.320 when you start doing all of that, people get upset and angry.
00:58:08.660 And if you remember what the civil rights movement was about, the civil rights movement was about these very kinds of protests.
00:58:17.660 And for some reason, in our modern era, people think that in order to have protests, you've got to be, you know, cordoned off to a certain area.
00:58:27.460 And, you know, what time you can protest.
00:58:31.540 There's nothing in the Constitution that tells you what time you can protest.
00:58:36.360 You can protest at any time.
00:58:37.400 And that's the whole point of it is to disrupt, to make them comfortable.
00:58:40.900 And that's what they're doing.
00:58:43.120 OK, look, I just I'm sorry, but I he's so dumb.
00:58:48.220 I just I have to say it out loud.
00:58:50.660 No, there's nothing in the Constitution specifically spelling out what the restrictions can be on first speech.
00:58:57.340 They are limited in this country, but they absolutely can have limitations.
00:59:02.040 By the way, Don, they're issued by statute that elaborates on the fundamental principles of the Constitution on time, place and manner.
00:59:10.160 Time, place and manner can be restricted, which is why the Westboro Baptist church crazies can protest the funerals of our dead soldiers.
00:59:16.520 But time, place and manner can be regulated so that they cannot get right in the face of a grieving set of parents that just buried their boy.
00:59:24.400 OK, that's because the Supreme Court understands content restrictions get extreme scrutiny.
00:59:29.400 But time, place and manner regulations around speech like you can't go into somebody's place of worship are almost always upheld.
00:59:37.880 But I'm sorry, Matt, he's too stupid or partisan to care.
00:59:42.520 Yeah, that's always the thing with Don Lemon is he's a he's a I mean, legitimately a very dumb person.
00:59:48.380 And so you always wonder, is he that's that's always the kind of like, is he lying right now?
00:59:53.960 Does he know that we said what he's saying is as stupid as it is?
00:59:56.460 I'm not really sure. It doesn't really matter anyway.
00:59:58.280 And anytime you listen to this guy or really any of these leftist protesters, you sort of they can kind of overwhelm you with bullshit.
01:00:04.420 And so you don't even know where to begin in responding to it.
01:00:07.380 And it creates a challenge in and of itself, because everything they say is so wrong that you kind of get it's like, where do I even start?
01:00:12.820 Because like he so for one thing, he says, well, this is to justify the quote protests in the church.
01:00:18.800 He says, well, this is what happens when you are kidnapping people.
01:00:21.460 You're dragging out American citizens out of their homes.
01:00:23.780 Well, two things with that. Number one, ICE is not doing that.
01:00:25.980 Number two, you're in a church. These are not ICE agents.
01:00:28.320 So even if they were doing that, why are you taking it out on these just random people who are trying to including children, as he admitted himself, who are trying to worship?
01:00:37.040 So it doesn't make any sense. But I will say that if if if Don Lemon so what Don Lemon is claiming, Don Lemon is claiming that he believes that protests are, number one, about being disruptive, about making people uncomfortable, and that if you want to protest, according to him, the Constitution says you could protest any time, any place and there's no restrictions on it whatsoever.
01:00:56.040 That's what Don Lemon believes. That's apparently what he you know, that's what that's that's what he supports.
01:01:00.220 So, I mean, I get and I'm not I just want to make clear I'm not encouraging this at all.
01:01:04.220 I'm not saying that anyone should do it, but I could only assume that if a mob of people showed up at Don Lemon's house and protested in his living room, I can only assume that Don Lemon would say, wow, well, they're making me uncomfortable.
01:01:16.380 They're being disruptive. And hey, I mean, the Constitution says you can protest anywhere, any place, any time.
01:01:21.020 So I assume Don Lemon would say that and welcome it. I mean, I could only assume that. So or, you know, maybe in that case, that's the one place where you know, of course, the irony is that Don Lemon has sued multiple people.
01:01:35.120 He's like like one of these guys who loves to sue people and get paid before he realized that he could get the ultimate settlement with CNN because they wanted to bounce a black gay man as he continuously repeated right after they the rumors hit that he was going to get fired.
01:01:49.720 In any event, now he's got some money, right? He's suing Elon because Elon didn't want to continue paying for a show on X because he attacked Elon as soon as he got there and showed that he wasn't a real journalist.
01:01:59.660 In any event, now he's got some money. So Don Lemon, I guarantee you, he lives in New York with his so-called husband, who I'm sure they live in some high rise building with tons of security and doormen and tons of layers between them and the outside world.
01:02:13.580 So they don't, no one's breaking into any place Don Lemon goes and harassing him. He's got lots of walls between him and any security threat, unlike this little boy that we're going to put on the screen, who's just sitting there trying to worship.
01:02:26.720 And because of Don Lemon and his friends got traumatized to the point where you can see the anguish on his face. He's getting hugged by a family member. There's another woman next to him with her hand on his back. You can tell he's upset.
01:02:38.580 This is three months after, about three, four months after the Minneapolis Catholic or Christian school was shot up, where little kids may still have some trauma, Matt, with a bunch of strangers walking into what's supposed to be a safe place for them and screaming in their faces.
01:02:53.280 Yeah, I mean, this is one of those things that makes me so angry that I can't say, I can't say everything that comes immediately to my head when I see what these people are doing.
01:03:07.600 And especially, I mean, you touched on it with, and this is a key point, with people like Don Lemon.
01:03:13.260 It's like the leftists that go out there and they love to say, we've got to make people uncomfortable, make them uncomfortable.
01:03:17.860 Well, to a man, these are always the most comfortable people who live lives of absolute luxury, and so it's very easy for them to say.
01:03:26.760 But what does it actually mean? I mean, it's one thing to say, well, we're going to make people uncomfortable.
01:03:30.040 Well, what do you mean by that, Don? Uncomfortable in what way?
01:03:34.300 Why should those people be uncomfortable with people like you storming into the church?
01:03:39.380 Is it because they're going to be worried now that something violent is going to happen?
01:03:43.840 Are they uncomfortable because they're worried that their safety is in jeopardy?
01:03:47.720 Yes, that is the type of discomfort that Don Lemon and his fellow leftist domestic terrorist agitators are trying to create.
01:03:56.340 They're trying to make these people not feel uncomfortable because they feel threatened.
01:04:01.520 And that's always the unspoken thing when they start, when the leftists start swarming random white people, you know, in Minneapolis who they claim are ICE agents just because they're white.
01:04:09.320 We're making them uncomfortable. Yeah, you are making them uncomfortable because you are making them think that you're going to do something violent against them.
01:04:16.840 There's an implicit and sometimes explicit threat attached to that.
01:04:21.260 Yes. And he said another word he said that these protests are all about is causing trauma. Trauma.
01:04:27.600 He wants that kid traumatized. He's looking forward to it. He thinks that's as American as apple pie.
01:04:32.660 And your reference to what they're doing to random white people walking the streets of Minneapolis is spot on.
01:04:38.680 We have a couple of those videos queued up. This is complete BLM 2020 type behavior.
01:04:44.380 I mean, it is like straight out of the same playbook.
01:04:47.880 And listening to the voice, I do wonder whether it's this guy, William Kelly, who was helping lead the storming of that Baptist service.
01:04:56.400 But here is a man screaming at some random white man walking down the street because apparently man number one thinks the guy's ICE.
01:05:03.620 Sat 17.
01:05:04.180 Where are you going? Huh? Are you ICE?
01:05:10.100 No.
01:05:11.040 Do you like ICE? Say F*** ICE! Say it! Say it, b***h! You're a b***h and your mom's a b***h! Say it! F*** you! F*** you, Nazi!
01:05:27.120 F*** you, Nazi! F*** you, Nazi!
01:05:33.060 Oh, my God. Like, I don't know how that guy didn't punch him in the face.
01:05:36.040 I give him so much credit, Matt, right? Like, restraining himself.
01:05:40.660 If somebody were to do that to you, like, I don't know. You're calmer than I am.
01:05:44.600 I can be more of a hothead. I don't know how you contain yourself.
01:05:49.520 Yeah, well, that's – and that's the – one of the many sinister parts of this is that that's one of the reasons they're doing it.
01:05:56.040 Obviously, they're trying to provoke a violent reaction, which in some of these – I mean, we've seen a lot of these videos.
01:06:02.620 We see them pulling over cars and, like, detaining people, which, of course, they have no legal authority what to do whatsoever.
01:06:08.940 That's kidnapping. Harassing someone on the street like that.
01:06:11.840 I mean, in many of these cases, someone would be perfectly – certainly morally, but I think in some cases, legally justified – in believing that their physical safety is being threatened.
01:06:20.980 And then they respond however they respond to that.
01:06:23.380 But that's – but that's – that's what the left is hoping for.
01:06:26.040 They're hoping for a response like that so they can flip it around and say, look at these right-wing terrorists.
01:06:29.680 I also think that it's – the one funny thing, if there is anything funny that comes out of this, is just the – it's the assumption by these leftist agitators that if they see a white adult male who does not appear to be mentally ill, they immediately assume that he must be on the other side.
01:06:45.360 They immediately assume that he must be their enemy.
01:06:47.160 And they're probably right, actually, most of the time.
01:06:50.360 Yeah, in their defense.
01:06:52.080 Oh, wait, do we have the – do we have that video, you guys, that I just sent you of the trans person singing?
01:06:56.660 Okay, look at this, because this is what their side looks like.
01:06:59.000 Watch.
01:07:00.140 I had a run-in with ice last year in March.
01:07:05.100 They called me, sir, and they made it quite clear.
01:07:10.160 Multiple piercings, multiple tats, obviously overweight.
01:07:16.240 I was trans – they're exact words.
01:07:20.140 Oouting.
01:07:20.640 Before I knew they'd surrounded my car.
01:07:23.560 I don't think this is supposed to be me.
01:07:25.520 Two on each side, one in front, like a star.
01:07:31.120 It was right then, in that moment, I knew they had other plans.
01:07:39.240 So I started screaming, I am recording, and I have been the whole time.
01:07:49.800 They called me a fucking bitch, just like they called her a fucking bitch.
01:07:59.900 They never were a man, and they'll never be with their boot on the neck of the land of the free.
01:08:15.560 I mean, I'm sorry to tell you, sister, you're never going to be a man either, if that's what you're going for.
01:08:19.400 But Matt happily identifies with the other team, and I think both of us can say right on.
01:08:25.080 You go with them, sister.
01:08:28.360 Enjoy.
01:08:30.120 Yeah, well, I got to say, Megan, I'm always happy to come on your show, but if you're going to make me listen to stuff like that, I don't know that I can –
01:08:37.940 It's either that or Don Leavitt clips, Matt.
01:08:41.860 Yeah, well, no, I got it.
01:08:43.280 I do like – it's like – that's the funny thing about these left-wing theater kids.
01:08:47.320 It's like it's – what she's doing there – first of all, she just – she basically has a blog post, and she's just singing it.
01:08:51.800 I mean, she made no attempt to actually turn it into song lyrics, but it sounds like a – it's like a Disney.
01:08:55.680 I mean, it's like – this is like Little Mermaid from hell.
01:08:58.080 I mean, it's like some full-on Disney bullshit that she's doing, and I find that very funny.
01:09:03.640 But this is – here, but here's the thing.
01:09:05.160 You look at that, and then you see the other video of the guy screaming at the white guy.
01:09:08.400 You see Don Lemon.
01:09:09.020 And it's like if you look at those videos and you side with the singing trans person and the guy screaming, like if that's your immediate instinct is to take their side, then we're not – we don't even live on the same planet.
01:09:25.540 I mean, I don't want to share a country with you.
01:09:27.880 I don't respect you.
01:09:28.740 I don't like you.
01:09:29.480 And because that – I just can't even begin to understand it.
01:09:34.480 The gaslighting that's going on, that it's like the people causing the violence are the ICE agents, the ones who are arresting the child predators and the murderers, instead of these crazy leftists who are trying to impede, interfere with everything they do, is really next level.
01:09:49.440 Here is the mayor, Jacob Frye, on Wednesday.
01:09:55.060 It was Wednesday.
01:09:56.820 Listen, listen to this.
01:09:58.460 Like I agreed with virtually every word if it were somebody on our side talking about them.
01:10:05.240 Listen to this.
01:10:05.880 It's not 14.
01:10:06.900 There's no doubt in my mind that you love your town.
01:10:09.340 Imagine if that city or that town was suddenly invaded by thousands of federal agents that do not share the values that you hold dear.
01:10:23.180 Imagine if your daily routines were disrupted.
01:10:26.400 The local cafe that you eat at was shut down because they're scared that their own family might get torn apart.
01:10:33.880 Imagine if schools shut down and suddenly parents got to figure out what to do for daycare.
01:10:41.460 This is not creating safety.
01:10:46.040 Right, Matt.
01:10:46.960 Imagine.
01:10:47.740 Imagine if your town were invaded by thousands who did not share your values and it was affecting your local community, your cafes, your restaurants, even the safety and conduct within your children's school.
01:11:00.960 Can you imagine, like, wouldn't that call for some extraordinary action?
01:11:05.380 Hmm.
01:11:05.860 Whatever could it be?
01:11:08.020 Yeah, it's right.
01:11:09.300 It's impossible to imagine exactly what, of course, they're doing.
01:11:12.560 And that's why I think it's important.
01:11:14.340 You know, there is, even though for normal people, we see these people and we see their, we see how they're behaving and it's very easy for us to know whose side to take in all this.
01:11:23.700 And you would think that this is very repulsive to every average American.
01:11:26.780 And it is.
01:11:27.680 But there is a strategy behind it because what they're trying to get everyone to believe, especially just kind of the casual observer who's not paying really close attention to the news, is that they want you to at least believe that, OK, yeah, maybe you're not on the protester side completely.
01:11:40.740 But obviously, ICE is doing something like there's something happening with ICE and ICE obviously is doing something really dramatic or really offensive.
01:11:48.640 And that's what's provoking this reaction.
01:11:50.300 But that's why it's really important to always remind people that, no, ICE, they're not they're not doing anything.
01:11:55.300 They're just enforcing the law.
01:11:57.100 And not only that, but they're almost exclusively targeting illegal aliens who have also committed other serious crimes like sex abuse and drugs and gang activity, that sort of thing.
01:12:09.140 For the most part, they're not even going after just like your average illegal alien who didn't commit another crime aside from also being an illegal alien, which, by the way, I think they should.
01:12:18.680 I think because if you're in this country illegally, that's a crime in and of itself.
01:12:22.120 But they're not even they're not even doing that.
01:12:23.940 And and yet this is the reaction.
01:12:27.100 So the couple more examples of the harassment because they're legion.
01:12:30.560 But here's one in SOT 19 as a bunch of folks were going to church.
01:12:35.260 I'm assuming it's the same church, though.
01:12:36.920 I don't know.
01:12:37.460 Watch.
01:12:38.420 You're going to bring your kids here and we're going to spare you while you fucking support the bombing of children in Gaza.
01:12:43.320 You fucking little bitches.
01:12:46.220 God, be smarter than your parents.
01:12:48.540 Your parents are fucking Nazis.
01:12:50.380 You're such a Nazi little bitch.
01:12:52.560 What the fuck is wrong with you?
01:12:53.820 Why do you think you can just destroy our nation?
01:12:56.040 Why do you think you can bring back white supremacy?
01:12:59.040 Why do you think you're better than everybody else?
01:13:01.460 What the fuck is wrong with you, asshole?
01:13:03.080 You will be judged not by a God, but by a court of law, you fucking Nazi fuck.
01:13:07.620 You little bitch ass.
01:13:09.200 What's your fucking excuse?
01:13:10.700 I'm not near him.
01:13:11.760 You don't have to be that close.
01:13:13.180 Look at this little bitch putting his hands on me.
01:13:15.380 Little punk ass bitch.
01:13:16.880 All right.
01:13:17.040 What's your fucking excuse?
01:13:17.820 Why do you fucking go to a church that preaches, preaches?
01:13:21.960 No, no, no, no, no.
01:13:22.860 No, we know.
01:13:23.580 What about the nationalism?
01:13:25.000 What about the Christian nationalism?
01:13:26.640 What is it about?
01:13:27.380 Is that all you got to say?
01:13:28.240 No.
01:13:28.440 What is it about?
01:13:29.140 That's all you got to say.
01:13:29.620 What is it about, asshole?
01:13:30.620 I don't even just say that.
01:13:31.160 See, you won't defend yourself because you're a punk ass little bitch fucking Nazi.
01:13:34.600 Fuck you, you fucking Nazi fucking piece of shit.
01:13:37.300 Shame on you.
01:13:38.360 You think you're fucking superior than people?
01:13:40.460 You ain't shit, bitch.
01:13:41.720 You ain't fucking shit.
01:13:43.520 You ain't nothing but a fucking cowardly fucking traitor.
01:13:46.300 Look at these fineless little bitches.
01:13:49.260 This poor guy is just, I mean, it looks like late 60s, early 70s, just trying to mind his
01:13:53.240 own business going to church.
01:13:54.520 This is actually Washington, D.C.
01:13:56.140 I thought it sounded like that same Kelly guy, but it was this past weekend, so I don't
01:13:59.880 think it was.
01:14:00.460 This is in Washington, D.C.
01:14:01.480 It's happening now in city after city where you're allowed to do that, Matt.
01:14:05.300 And yeah, they're just counting on the side of reason, being restrained, not engaging,
01:14:13.000 being classy, not responding, because they know in city after city they are going to
01:14:18.620 be able to get away with this, and the narrative is going to be that they're the side of the
01:14:22.940 good guys, and the ICE agents and others trying to maintain order are the evil ones.
01:14:27.780 Right, which is why it's so, I mean, just to go back to the point we've been making this
01:14:33.740 whole time, it's so important that the law is enforced and that you throw the book at
01:14:38.840 these people, because if you don't, and we saw the same thing in 2020, we all saw this
01:14:44.380 trajectory play out in 2020, where it just steamrolls.
01:14:49.200 You know, it's like an avalanche.
01:14:52.100 And once it really, really gets going, then it's almost impossible to stop.
01:14:55.520 And you've got to get in before that, because here's the thing.
01:14:57.460 These people, these leftist agitators, I won't even call them protesters, they don't really
01:15:04.100 care.
01:15:05.460 Right, they're terrorists.
01:15:06.980 Every protest for them is about everything.
01:15:09.260 That's why he throws in Gaza, he throws in white supremacy.
01:15:12.040 It's like, everything's about everything all the time, because they don't actually care
01:15:15.160 about any of that stuff.
01:15:16.000 These are destructive people, they're degenerates, and really, they hate everyone, they're full
01:15:21.360 of anger, they're mad about the fact that they're total failures, and they're losers,
01:15:25.780 and they're unhappy, and they're just looking for an excuse to take that out on someone.
01:15:30.580 And this kind of environment gives them that excuse.
01:15:34.780 And once they get kind of the taste of blood, they go crazy with it.
01:15:37.960 And so you've got to come in, and you've got to put a stop to it, and throw the book at
01:15:41.880 them before it really gets out of control.
01:15:46.320 We're seeing some of that just this weekend.
01:15:49.580 A guy named Jake Lang, he got in trouble on January 6th.
01:15:54.420 He's apparently running for office down in Florida.
01:15:56.680 He was attacked by an angry mob down out in Minneapolis.
01:16:01.920 This is, take a look at SOT 21, where he gets hit by the so-called peaceful protest.
01:16:10.340 It's a full mob around here.
01:16:14.300 Full mob, they're beating him.
01:16:16.520 They're beating him with a black hole.
01:16:18.040 I thought you weren't allowed to do that.
01:16:19.020 It was reliably told on J6, you can't do that.
01:16:20.920 Hey, Jake, why'd you kiss the wall?
01:16:29.280 Palestinian flag in the background.
01:16:34.920 Here he is in SOT 23, trying to flee in a red sedan.
01:16:39.440 Protesters don't allow it.
01:16:41.440 Watch.
01:16:41.680 Kicking him in his car.
01:16:50.600 These are all crimes.
01:16:54.760 Now they open the other door.
01:16:56.740 Kicking him from the other side.
01:16:59.800 Of course, in the Canada goose jacket, which is a fortune.
01:17:02.540 Hey, let him off.
01:17:06.640 Let him off.
01:17:10.900 So, I just wanted to show you that, Matt.
01:17:13.160 I know you've seen lots of videos like that, because they are harassing many.
01:17:16.440 They're harassing ICE.
01:17:17.520 They're vandalizing vehicles.
01:17:18.980 They beat an ICE officer with a broom and a shovel.
01:17:22.700 Now you see this guy getting hit.
01:17:24.860 We've been watching what's been happening to poor Nick Sorter and Cam Higby down there,
01:17:28.700 getting attacked repeatedly.
01:17:30.500 And then Ellen DeGeneres felt the need to weigh in.
01:17:33.680 And I know you, like I, have been asking yourself, what would Ellen think of all this?
01:17:39.760 She's abandoned the United States to go live in the UK.
01:17:42.320 So, but it's still really important to all of us what she thinks.
01:17:45.600 And so I have an answer for you today.
01:17:47.200 And here it is.
01:17:47.720 Hey, everybody, I just wanted to say I am so sorry for what is happening in Minneapolis
01:17:55.400 and in our country, really, but specifically in Minneapolis right now.
01:18:00.480 Thoughts and my prayers are going out to everyone.
01:18:03.020 And I'm proud of everyone who's protesting peacefully.
01:18:05.920 And I am sorry for anyone who has been hurt just for protesting, for doing what you should be doing.
01:18:17.720 There's your answer, Matt Walsh.
01:18:20.360 You're welcome.
01:18:21.820 Yeah, no, I really appreciate that.
01:18:23.540 This whole time I've been, well, I've been, like everyone, I've been very lost these past few weeks.
01:18:27.520 I don't know exactly what to think.
01:18:28.660 I think I know what I think, but then I'm thinking, well, what does Ellen DeGeneres have to say?
01:18:32.340 And then I turn on daytime TV and she's not there anymore because she got fired.
01:18:36.680 And then I'm, but there it is.
01:18:38.360 So, of course, and also keep in mind, as always, in particular in Minneapolis,
01:18:43.400 what this is all about for them, where it all started, we can't say it enough,
01:18:48.240 is that this is all about specifically protecting in Minneapolis Somali immigrants
01:18:54.060 who are stealing from the people of Minneapolis to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars.
01:19:00.740 And that's who they are all swarming in to protect.
01:19:04.780 And that's who Ellen DeGeneres is now bravely speaking up in defense of.
01:19:08.280 Exactly. And let's not forget why Ellen lost her daytime show.
01:19:12.340 It's because she was a bully.
01:19:14.940 She bullied people who are less powerful than she was.
01:19:18.300 She had a rule.
01:19:19.700 I'm very reliably informed.
01:19:21.700 Somebody I knew very well had a sister who worked for her.
01:19:24.460 You were not allowed to look her in the eye as one of her producers
01:19:27.520 when you walked past her in the hallway.
01:19:30.360 And so it's no surprise that Ellen DeGeneres is totally fine
01:19:33.800 with what these so-called protesters, terrorists, are doing in the streets of Minneapolis.
01:19:38.940 It's no surprise whatsoever.
01:19:40.720 And when she says, I'm very sorry for any protesters who've gotten hurt,
01:19:42.980 she, of course, is talking about Renee Good.
01:19:45.440 And I'm sure, just like most leftists,
01:19:47.140 she's been fed the same lies we've heard from CNN now from the beginning.
01:19:51.680 And she's chosen to believe them because she's ignorant and it's willful.
01:19:55.700 It's not blind ignorance.
01:19:58.520 It's willful ignorance.
01:20:00.040 It suits her ideological purposes.
01:20:02.240 Shame on her.
01:20:03.320 Enjoy England.
01:20:04.300 I'm sorry that our friends across the pond are stuck with Ellen,
01:20:06.640 but let's face it, they gave us Harry and Meghan, so they deserve it.
01:20:10.680 All right, let's take a quick break because I want to come back.
01:20:12.520 There's a lot more to discuss,
01:20:13.300 and I really do want to get into this series that you're now offering
01:20:15.360 because half the lies that what we're hearing on the streets of Minneapolis
01:20:20.060 are told every day to our children in K-12 education.
01:20:23.640 And like most of us, Matt's had enough of that.
01:20:26.660 We will get back in just a minute and talk about his new series of The Daily Wire,
01:20:31.260 Real History with Matt Walsh.
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01:23:39.960 Hey, everyone. It's me, Megan Kelly.
01:23:43.380 I've got some exciting news.
01:23:45.600 I now have my very own channel on Sirius XM.
01:23:48.740 It's called the Megan Kelly Channel,
01:23:50.140 and it is where you will hear the truth,
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01:24:15.600 Matt Walsh is back with me,
01:24:17.280 and he has a great new series,
01:24:18.620 Real History with Matt Walsh at the Daily Wire.
01:24:21.020 Because if you're sitting asking yourself
01:24:22.920 how these people got so radicalized
01:24:24.820 to the point where they would get in the face of churchgoers,
01:24:29.320 of, you know,
01:24:30.220 older gentlemen walking down the street,
01:24:32.220 never mind of ransacking an ICE agent's truck
01:24:35.740 and stealing his weapon,
01:24:37.860 it starts in American schools.
01:24:41.080 I mean, we all know that.
01:24:42.880 In Matt's new series,
01:24:44.260 he breaks down the lies
01:24:45.740 that American children are being taught
01:24:47.460 about our country and its history,
01:24:50.300 including the topic of slavery.
01:24:52.620 Here's a tease from his first episode.
01:24:55.120 I thought I knew the story of slavery,
01:24:57.220 who the villains were,
01:24:58.100 who the victims were.
01:24:59.100 But I started digging into the original documents,
01:25:01.320 the place is never mentioned in school.
01:25:03.440 I've been obsessed with history since I was a kid.
01:25:05.880 I read the textbooks,
01:25:07.520 nodded along in class,
01:25:09.120 and I realized
01:25:09.740 almost everything I'd been told was a lie.
01:25:13.180 Not just exaggerated,
01:25:14.460 not just incomplete,
01:25:15.500 flat out, deliberately inverted.
01:25:17.740 Why didn't they mention that?
01:25:18.720 Of the 12.5 million slaves
01:25:20.680 shipped across the Atlantic,
01:25:21.780 only 3% came to the U.S.
01:25:23.660 Why do they always avoid the inconvenient fact
01:25:25.920 that Africans sold the slaves to Europeans?
01:25:29.160 What were those African kingdoms like?
01:25:30.660 They built their palaces from human skulls
01:25:32.940 and floated canoes
01:25:33.840 and rivers of blood from their slaves.
01:25:36.080 In what grade will we learn
01:25:37.400 about the millions of white Europeans
01:25:39.080 dragged off in chains
01:25:40.240 by North African pirates
01:25:41.720 while the world looked away?
01:25:43.400 When's the lecture
01:25:44.000 on black slaveholders in the South?
01:25:46.120 Some facts don't make it into the textbooks.
01:25:48.500 We're going to set the record straight.
01:25:49.880 It's time for the truth,
01:25:50.980 the history they don't teach in public schools.
01:25:53.660 It's real history with Matt Walsh,
01:25:56.000 available on Martin Luther King Jr.'s birthday.
01:25:58.160 Good questions, Matt.
01:26:07.760 Why don't they teach that?
01:26:10.020 What is the agenda?
01:26:12.440 Well, I think, I mean, look,
01:26:13.700 the agenda, not just in our schools,
01:26:15.440 but media, Hollywood,
01:26:17.640 all the institutions in our country,
01:26:19.320 is to make Americans hate themselves.
01:26:23.240 And that begins in school with kids
01:26:25.220 to give us a version of our history
01:26:27.660 that makes us ashamed, feel guilty,
01:26:31.400 feel like we have no reason
01:26:32.600 to have any pride in our country,
01:26:34.760 in particular in its history.
01:26:38.100 You know, to cast America as,
01:26:41.600 and in particular, white Americans,
01:26:44.880 as the great villains of history.
01:26:48.380 That's what all this is about.
01:26:49.900 And of course,
01:26:50.380 that's what the left wants to do.
01:26:52.200 I mean, the leftism is an ideology of destruction.
01:26:55.680 It's inherently destructive.
01:26:57.180 We talk about,
01:26:58.120 we call them progressive,
01:26:59.620 which they are,
01:27:01.140 but it's progressive
01:27:01.880 in the way that cancer is progressive.
01:27:03.700 You know, it progresses in the way
01:27:05.300 that we would say that
01:27:06.600 of someone with a cancer diagnosis.
01:27:08.280 It progresses in that it eats and destroys.
01:27:10.720 And so that's been the case.
01:27:12.160 We know that.
01:27:13.020 Well, anyone who's been paying attention
01:27:14.120 knows that.
01:27:15.420 But then when you,
01:27:16.720 you might even know that intellectually,
01:27:19.300 but until you actually dive in
01:27:21.640 and you start looking
01:27:22.600 at some of these historical topics,
01:27:24.540 especially the ones that we hear a lot about,
01:27:27.300 generally,
01:27:28.840 but we don't get very many details.
01:27:30.840 When you start really getting into it,
01:27:32.500 you realize that,
01:27:33.800 wow, I mean,
01:27:35.600 they really lied about everything.
01:27:37.600 The truth here is totally different.
01:27:42.380 It's not just like,
01:27:43.240 here's some more context.
01:27:44.720 This is an entirely different story
01:27:46.880 than the one that I was told.
01:27:49.260 And so this is a series
01:27:50.140 where each episode
01:27:50.920 will look at a different topic in history.
01:27:55.920 And we start with,
01:27:56.560 I mean, slavery,
01:27:57.340 that's a really big one.
01:27:59.200 And that's kind of where it begins.
01:28:01.960 I think it's an appropriate place to begin
01:28:03.380 because this is,
01:28:04.240 we're told,
01:28:05.360 right,
01:28:05.560 the original sin of America's
01:28:08.640 kind of original sin.
01:28:10.220 You call Hannah Jones
01:28:11.200 who tell us this,
01:28:11.720 the whole reason America was formed.
01:28:14.280 Right, exactly.
01:28:15.220 And if you go,
01:28:16.480 it touches everything.
01:28:17.360 You look at the,
01:28:17.960 to your point,
01:28:18.460 I mean,
01:28:18.580 you look at the ice agitators in the street.
01:28:21.580 It doesn't take that long.
01:28:22.980 It's only a few degrees of separation
01:28:24.720 to go from there,
01:28:25.900 to get from there
01:28:26.640 to their narrative about slavery.
01:28:28.660 I mean,
01:28:28.800 this is what they think
01:28:29.820 gives them the moral right,
01:28:32.160 the moral justification
01:28:32.960 to just do whatever they want,
01:28:34.800 to go protest in the churches
01:28:35.980 if they want to
01:28:36.740 because America was built on slavery
01:28:39.740 and it has no right to exist
01:28:41.100 and every white American
01:28:43.040 carries somehow that legacy,
01:28:44.900 that guilt in their blood for slavery
01:28:47.220 and so you can treat them
01:28:48.380 however you want.
01:28:49.980 And then when you look into it,
01:28:51.460 you realize that,
01:28:52.300 well,
01:28:52.460 that's totally absurd
01:28:54.340 starting with the fact that,
01:28:55.620 and this is how we begin the series,
01:28:57.220 or we begin this episode,
01:28:58.800 is,
01:28:59.200 you know,
01:29:00.460 let's look at this on a global scale.
01:29:01.920 Before we get to
01:29:02.740 the really particular subject
01:29:04.560 of slavery in America,
01:29:06.540 what about the global,
01:29:07.980 what did slavery look like
01:29:09.140 on a global scale?
01:29:10.340 And it turns out that,
01:29:11.540 you know,
01:29:11.700 of course,
01:29:12.180 slavery was a global institution
01:29:15.920 across the entire world
01:29:17.420 for many thousands of years.
01:29:19.240 It's actually kind of fascinating
01:29:20.520 that even these civilizations
01:29:22.180 that never came in contact
01:29:23.680 with each other
01:29:24.340 and disagreed
01:29:25.940 about most things,
01:29:27.520 came to the very different conclusions
01:29:29.200 about most things,
01:29:30.200 still came to the same conclusion,
01:29:32.720 basically,
01:29:33.620 that it's okay to own people.
01:29:35.280 And that's,
01:29:36.000 whether you're in Asia or Europe
01:29:38.180 or you go to the,
01:29:38.840 you know,
01:29:39.540 the New World,
01:29:40.280 you go to the Americas,
01:29:41.600 again,
01:29:41.980 these are civilizations
01:29:42.600 that were thousands of miles apart,
01:29:45.160 separated by thousands of years,
01:29:46.820 and yet they all had slavery.
01:29:48.520 You know,
01:29:48.660 this is a,
01:29:49.420 so if the guilt of slavery
01:29:51.760 could be passed down
01:29:52.700 in the blood
01:29:53.280 to modern people,
01:29:54.760 then we all carry it,
01:29:56.360 you know,
01:29:57.020 without exception.
01:29:57.680 It was everywhere
01:29:59.860 and the slave trade
01:30:02.660 that resulted in
01:30:03.800 some number of slaves
01:30:04.720 coming to the United States
01:30:05.880 of America
01:30:06.460 funneled slaves
01:30:08.920 all over the Americas
01:30:10.940 in a way that
01:30:12.020 the detractors
01:30:13.340 of the United States
01:30:14.280 seem to conveniently forget.
01:30:16.580 Here's another clip
01:30:17.300 from episode one.
01:30:18.460 It's SOT 51.
01:30:20.500 Historians and political pundits
01:30:22.160 spend a lot of time
01:30:23.480 talking about
01:30:24.120 the transatlantic slave trade,
01:30:25.840 the 350-year period
01:30:27.260 in which an estimated
01:30:28.160 12.5 million slaves
01:30:29.900 were brought to the Americas,
01:30:31.640 but what we don't learn
01:30:33.180 in school
01:30:33.680 is where those slaves
01:30:35.080 actually went.
01:30:36.440 Just under half of them,
01:30:37.820 an estimated 5.4 million,
01:30:39.920 went only to Brazil,
01:30:41.680 and many more
01:30:42.260 went to the Caribbean.
01:30:43.400 1.2 million
01:30:44.160 went to Jamaica,
01:30:44.740 Brazil,
01:30:45.240 more than 900,000
01:30:46.540 to St. Dominique,
01:30:47.940 and 889,000
01:30:49.520 to Cuba.
01:30:50.700 The grand total of slaves
01:30:51.960 brought to the future
01:30:53.100 United States
01:30:53.880 was about half
01:30:55.260 the number
01:30:55.720 brought only to Cuba,
01:30:57.800 472,372,
01:31:00.700 or 3% of the total.
01:31:03.280 The ones who came
01:31:04.380 to the 13 colonies
01:31:05.400 were the lucky ones.
01:31:07.320 In the context
01:31:08.000 of global slavery,
01:31:09.120 getting put on a ship
01:31:09.920 to New Orleans
01:31:10.720 was really a best-case scenario.
01:31:14.220 I mean, that's incredible,
01:31:15.520 and it dovetails perfectly
01:31:16.620 with a point
01:31:17.540 you guys make in the series,
01:31:19.380 which is as follows.
01:31:20.440 I'm quoting here.
01:31:21.220 In the 1860 census,
01:31:23.960 at the very height
01:31:24.740 of slavery,
01:31:26.220 there were 393,975
01:31:29.240 slave owners in the U.S.,
01:31:30.800 out of a total population
01:31:31.820 of over 31 million.
01:31:34.900 That translates to
01:31:35.920 about 1.2%
01:31:37.340 of the population.
01:31:39.120 The vast majority
01:31:39.880 of American whites
01:31:40.700 never owned any slaves,
01:31:44.120 which is not at all
01:31:45.840 the narrative
01:31:46.620 we are fed
01:31:47.840 in third and fourth grade,
01:31:50.060 and every grade thereafter
01:31:51.780 all the way to our 50s.
01:31:54.800 Yeah, and not only did,
01:31:56.840 you know, of course,
01:31:57.560 the vast majority
01:31:58.180 of Americans
01:31:58.640 never owned slaves,
01:31:59.640 but also America
01:32:01.140 only had slavery
01:32:02.320 as an institution
01:32:03.220 for 90 years
01:32:04.740 of its existence
01:32:05.500 as a country.
01:32:06.620 You know, for 90 years
01:32:07.560 of the existence
01:32:08.440 of the United States
01:32:09.640 of America,
01:32:10.700 about 90 years,
01:32:12.480 slavery existed.
01:32:14.100 And you look at
01:32:16.100 other countries
01:32:16.860 across the world
01:32:17.480 that had slavery
01:32:18.100 as a legal institution
01:32:19.640 for thousands of years.
01:32:21.580 I mean, slavery
01:32:22.540 was a legal institution
01:32:24.620 in some places in Africa
01:32:26.080 until the mid-20th century.
01:32:28.220 I think it was finally
01:32:29.100 abolished in like 1980
01:32:30.320 in the last African country.
01:32:33.360 So, and the point
01:32:34.140 of all this, obviously,
01:32:35.280 because the response
01:32:36.040 from the left will be
01:32:36.880 and always is
01:32:37.460 when I talk about this,
01:32:39.020 that, yeah, well,
01:32:40.200 two wrongs don't make a right.
01:32:41.640 That doesn't mean
01:32:42.340 that it's okay
01:32:42.900 that America had slavery.
01:32:44.000 Obviously,
01:32:44.440 that's not the point.
01:32:45.380 The point isn't that
01:32:46.480 it was okay
01:32:47.880 for Americans
01:32:48.480 to have slaves.
01:32:49.200 The point is
01:32:50.020 that it's historically
01:32:51.680 incoherent
01:32:53.380 to pretend
01:32:54.160 that America
01:32:54.820 has some kind
01:32:55.620 of special guilt
01:32:56.920 for slavery
01:32:58.360 because when it comes
01:32:59.120 down to it,
01:33:00.060 guilt is shared
01:33:00.940 by every country,
01:33:02.280 but America's
01:33:02.960 relationship with slavery
01:33:04.420 was,
01:33:05.340 if judged against
01:33:06.200 other countries
01:33:07.020 at the time
01:33:07.560 and other regions
01:33:08.100 of the world,
01:33:08.760 was much better
01:33:10.000 and lasted
01:33:11.320 for a much shorter
01:33:12.840 period of time.
01:33:13.440 So this is not,
01:33:15.780 of course,
01:33:16.680 the only thing
01:33:17.100 they mislead
01:33:18.140 our children on,
01:33:19.480 no matter what school
01:33:20.260 we're sending them to.
01:33:21.360 There's always
01:33:22.000 a little bit
01:33:22.600 of ideology
01:33:23.220 that creeps in
01:33:24.160 and infects
01:33:24.760 the lesson plans
01:33:25.560 and history
01:33:26.960 is, like,
01:33:28.280 ripe
01:33:28.820 for the exploitation.
01:33:30.640 And, I mean,
01:33:31.000 like, virtually
01:33:31.540 all of the history
01:33:32.300 teachers do it.
01:33:34.140 This, actually,
01:33:34.980 I don't know
01:33:35.560 that this is a
01:33:36.400 history class
01:33:37.500 where this came out of,
01:33:38.900 but there was
01:33:39.500 just in the news,
01:33:41.040 hold on a second,
01:33:42.820 where was it?
01:33:43.360 My team,
01:33:43.980 oh, it's Iowa.
01:33:44.820 It's in Iowa,
01:33:46.020 of all places,
01:33:46.980 where there was
01:33:48.280 an audio tape
01:33:49.300 that broke Matt
01:33:50.180 from a kid.
01:33:51.080 A kid, obviously,
01:33:52.020 who's probably not
01:33:52.520 supposed to have
01:33:53.000 his or her phone
01:33:53.720 in the classroom,
01:33:54.860 sneaked it out
01:33:55.540 and sneaked it on
01:33:56.500 to record
01:33:57.520 this ideological teacher
01:33:59.180 in Iowa,
01:34:00.280 hello,
01:34:01.200 on the subject
01:34:02.000 of Renee Good,
01:34:03.600 this ice agitator
01:34:04.760 who wound up
01:34:05.480 on the wrong side
01:34:06.340 of an agent's gun
01:34:07.200 after she tried
01:34:07.840 to run him over.
01:34:08.840 Here it is,
01:34:09.280 SOT 47.
01:34:09.860 But what you need
01:34:11.580 to understand
01:34:12.260 is that she was told
01:34:14.120 to leave the area
01:34:15.060 and so she was
01:34:17.180 turning her vehicle
01:34:18.660 away.
01:34:20.320 She waved
01:34:21.440 to other vehicles
01:34:22.520 and they were leaving
01:34:23.760 and she was turning
01:34:26.100 away and the officer
01:34:27.420 stepped in front
01:34:28.600 of her vehicle,
01:34:30.060 raised his gun
01:34:31.240 and fired a shot
01:34:33.920 at point-blank range
01:34:35.560 into her vehicle
01:34:37.880 and then
01:34:40.080 as she drove
01:34:40.900 away,
01:34:41.760 he turned
01:34:42.400 and fired
01:34:43.120 two more shots
01:34:44.400 at point-blank range
01:34:45.780 and shot her
01:34:46.840 in the head
01:34:47.580 and that could
01:34:48.540 have been you
01:34:49.400 and keep in mind,
01:34:51.680 she had broken
01:34:52.400 no law.
01:34:55.100 She was simply
01:34:55.980 following orders
01:34:57.440 to leave a scene.
01:35:00.040 Anybody here,
01:35:01.180 the Manson Police
01:35:02.200 Department
01:35:02.660 can shoot you.
01:35:03.660 Are you okay
01:35:06.100 with that?
01:35:08.440 Okay,
01:35:09.040 now you and I
01:35:09.680 both know
01:35:10.080 the number
01:35:10.620 of factual errors
01:35:11.780 that are in
01:35:12.400 that little dissertation
01:35:13.100 are too many
01:35:14.540 to count right now
01:35:15.240 but the point
01:35:16.720 is the crazy-ass
01:35:19.180 indoctrination.
01:35:20.440 It's one thing
01:35:21.360 to know it's happening
01:35:22.200 and it's quite another
01:35:23.780 to hear the anger,
01:35:26.020 the guilt
01:35:26.540 she tries to slap
01:35:27.420 on them,
01:35:28.460 the terror.
01:35:29.900 Let me just give you
01:35:30.480 one point.
01:35:31.180 In the law,
01:35:31.740 I learned this point
01:35:33.360 as a young law student
01:35:34.340 who was on the
01:35:35.740 moot court team
01:35:36.360 and I had done this
01:35:37.680 in a moot court tryout
01:35:38.720 and I learned
01:35:40.080 first day of law school
01:35:41.800 as I tried out
01:35:42.300 for moot court,
01:35:43.600 you are not allowed
01:35:44.240 to make the jury
01:35:44.740 fear for its safety
01:35:46.400 in your closing argument
01:35:47.960 as a prosecutor.
01:35:48.900 You can't say
01:35:49.380 this guy's a rapist
01:35:50.440 or a murderer
01:35:51.220 and if you don't
01:35:51.880 find him guilty,
01:35:53.120 he's going to come out
01:35:53.840 and rape or murder you
01:35:54.780 or someone you love.
01:35:55.580 That's not okay
01:35:56.460 because you really do
01:35:57.960 need to be fair
01:35:58.580 to the defendant
01:35:59.060 and need to make sure
01:36:00.500 the jury is in a fair
01:36:01.840 position to make
01:36:03.260 a good decision.
01:36:05.060 That's the last thing
01:36:05.920 she wants of her students
01:36:06.860 that they remain
01:36:07.980 in a fair and objective
01:36:09.120 position to make
01:36:10.220 a good decision.
01:36:10.880 She just wants them
01:36:11.540 swallowing her propaganda
01:36:12.820 map.
01:36:14.300 Yeah, I mean,
01:36:15.020 of course it goes
01:36:15.820 without saying
01:36:16.260 it's so absurd
01:36:16.940 when they say,
01:36:18.360 oh, it could have
01:36:18.700 happened to anyone,
01:36:19.220 it could have happened
01:36:19.640 to you.
01:36:20.020 Well, it's like,
01:36:20.700 no, it's 100%
01:36:22.240 could not ever happen
01:36:23.120 to me because I'm
01:36:23.880 not going to block
01:36:24.480 traffic intentionally
01:36:26.240 with my car for three
01:36:27.040 minutes and then
01:36:27.500 when the cop tells me
01:36:28.160 to leave, try to run
01:36:28.800 them over.
01:36:29.500 Just like when they
01:36:30.160 said, oh, it could
01:36:30.520 have happened to you
01:36:30.900 with George Floyd.
01:36:31.680 No, well, I'm not
01:36:32.460 going to take fentanyl
01:36:33.540 and then try to pass
01:36:34.300 a counterfeit bill
01:36:35.680 and then resist arrest
01:36:36.720 when the cop comes.
01:36:37.740 I'm just not going
01:36:38.420 to do that,
01:36:38.740 so it's 100% not
01:36:39.500 ever going to happen
01:36:40.020 to me.
01:36:40.260 That's not going to.
01:36:41.360 But of course,
01:36:42.200 we know that as adults
01:36:43.080 we have that capacity.
01:36:44.280 We have the context.
01:36:45.700 We know what's going
01:36:46.260 on and everything.
01:36:48.840 But what makes it
01:36:49.660 so diabolical,
01:36:50.520 obviously, in this case,
01:36:51.940 is that you are
01:36:52.700 doing this to children
01:36:54.180 who, many of whom,
01:36:56.300 I mean, think about
01:36:56.800 the unfair position
01:36:57.720 that these families
01:36:59.680 are in because
01:37:00.500 if you're a parent
01:37:02.000 with some of these
01:37:03.460 stories, you might
01:37:04.500 not have sat your
01:37:06.300 kids down and told
01:37:07.240 them about all this
01:37:07.920 depending on how old
01:37:08.640 they are because you
01:37:09.280 might feel like,
01:37:09.800 well, it's not quite
01:37:10.320 appropriate to talk
01:37:10.980 to my kids about this
01:37:12.200 at their age.
01:37:13.060 So you have not
01:37:14.060 equipped your kids
01:37:14.900 with the true version
01:37:16.320 of this story,
01:37:17.380 perhaps.
01:37:18.140 Little did you know
01:37:18.800 that you're sending
01:37:19.280 them to school and
01:37:20.180 then in English class
01:37:20.960 or whatever class
01:37:21.580 that was, the first
01:37:23.360 version of a story
01:37:24.160 they get is from
01:37:25.380 this totally deranged
01:37:26.500 teacher.
01:37:27.820 And those kids
01:37:29.480 are not, what are
01:37:30.120 they supposed to do?
01:37:30.800 Even if they disagree,
01:37:32.520 you know, are they
01:37:33.260 going to, if they
01:37:34.040 stand up and say
01:37:34.800 anything, they can
01:37:35.700 get punished.
01:37:36.340 They know that.
01:37:38.020 And it's just,
01:37:39.300 it's, well, this is
01:37:40.740 why I've been saying
01:37:42.000 in my whole career,
01:37:42.760 it's like I'm not
01:37:43.840 going to send my
01:37:44.340 kids to public
01:37:45.620 school because you're
01:37:47.140 sending them into
01:37:47.800 these indoctrination
01:37:48.600 camps and we know
01:37:49.560 that this is how it
01:37:50.700 goes.
01:37:51.940 Mm-hmm.
01:37:52.680 I'll say the only
01:37:53.760 advantage of sending
01:37:55.420 them into schools
01:37:56.880 that are a little
01:37:58.160 woke, not actually
01:37:59.340 woke because that's
01:37:59.920 just abuse, but a
01:38:01.920 little woke is, like,
01:38:03.400 I think because our
01:38:04.080 daughter goes to a
01:38:04.680 school that's a little
01:38:05.160 woke and our sons go
01:38:06.100 to an all-boys school
01:38:06.940 that's not, not woke,
01:38:08.680 is she's learning it.
01:38:10.700 Like, she's starting
01:38:11.780 to hear it and she'll
01:38:13.740 bring it home and say,
01:38:15.020 this happened.
01:38:16.720 And so it does give
01:38:17.520 us as parents the
01:38:18.320 opportunity to, like,
01:38:20.200 inoculate her, you
01:38:21.340 know, before she
01:38:22.000 moves on to college
01:38:23.100 or whatever she
01:38:23.920 decides her future
01:38:24.580 plans are.
01:38:25.080 And that is one
01:38:25.980 benefit, but it would
01:38:27.360 be better still if
01:38:28.740 they didn't have it.
01:38:29.720 So you're going to
01:38:30.440 take this on.
01:38:31.060 I mean, they've been
01:38:31.440 doing this to our
01:38:31.940 kids.
01:38:32.500 I remember having a
01:38:34.000 lunch with, I mean,
01:38:36.800 I'll spare her the
01:38:38.080 name, but she's a very
01:38:39.200 famous news person.
01:38:41.000 And she was talking
01:38:41.880 all about how at her
01:38:43.000 leftist New York City
01:38:44.280 private school, they
01:38:45.120 loved Howard Zinn.
01:38:46.820 That's all they used
01:38:47.740 to teach the kids
01:38:48.420 history.
01:38:48.780 And that guy hates
01:38:49.960 America.
01:38:50.740 So this series, as I
01:38:52.360 see it, is sort of the
01:38:53.020 antidote to Howard Zinn.
01:38:54.980 It's the opposite of
01:38:56.160 what Howard Zinn is
01:38:56.860 teaching our kids.
01:38:58.040 What's the next
01:38:58.600 subject?
01:38:59.040 You're going to do
01:38:59.460 slavery.
01:39:00.120 Where else are we
01:39:00.600 going with this?
01:39:02.540 Well, we've got, I
01:39:04.560 mean, there's kind of
01:39:05.500 the possibilities are
01:39:06.400 endless.
01:39:07.040 I will say that the
01:39:07.980 next one, the very
01:39:09.180 next one that we're
01:39:09.660 doing that I'm excited
01:39:11.040 for is we're going to
01:39:12.600 talk about the Indians.
01:39:14.600 We're going to talk
01:39:15.120 about the Indian wars in
01:39:16.140 America.
01:39:16.480 America and we're
01:39:17.480 going to kind of take
01:39:18.020 on this idea that's
01:39:19.160 taken as sort of
01:39:19.860 sacrosanct and even I
01:39:21.240 think a lot of
01:39:21.580 conservatives just sort
01:39:22.500 of implicitly believe
01:39:23.620 it, which is that
01:39:24.680 America was built on
01:39:26.940 stolen land and that we
01:39:28.440 wage this one-sided war
01:39:30.780 of persecution, a sort of
01:39:33.380 a holocaust against the
01:39:34.520 Indians that lasted for
01:39:35.540 300 years.
01:39:37.260 That's the story that we
01:39:38.360 get.
01:39:38.580 That's the story they
01:39:39.200 teach in schools.
01:39:40.660 And like I said, I think
01:39:41.720 even a lot of conservatives
01:39:42.520 just kind of take, they
01:39:43.480 sort of take it for
01:39:44.160 granted that, yeah, I
01:39:45.320 mean, maybe I'm proud of
01:39:46.300 America, but what we did
01:39:47.580 to the Indians was pretty
01:39:48.360 bad.
01:39:48.680 You hear those sorts of
01:39:49.280 things.
01:39:49.520 Well, it turns out when you
01:39:50.440 look into this that that is
01:39:52.280 not true at all.
01:39:52.980 And a lot of the stories, a
01:39:54.400 lot of the really famous
01:39:55.260 stories that we hear, trail
01:39:57.220 of tears and that sort of
01:39:58.120 thing, again, when you look
01:39:59.420 into the actual facts, the
01:40:01.100 facts are not as they're
01:40:02.120 presented.
01:40:03.060 But also when you look
01:40:05.260 into it, you find that,
01:40:06.280 well, these Indian tribes
01:40:07.340 were, many of them, these
01:40:09.980 were warfaring tribes.
01:40:11.400 They were warrior cultures.
01:40:13.760 They were only on that
01:40:15.200 land when Europeans
01:40:16.360 arrived because they
01:40:17.560 themselves had violently
01:40:19.000 conquered.
01:40:19.960 And we'll get into, well,
01:40:20.900 what does it mean?
01:40:21.700 You know, what does it
01:40:22.160 look like if you're on
01:40:23.200 land that Indians, the
01:40:24.560 Indian tribe happens to
01:40:25.880 want?
01:40:26.520 What's that going to mean
01:40:27.460 for you, whether you're
01:40:28.600 an Indian tribe or white
01:40:29.860 settlers on the frontier?
01:40:32.140 Well, it's not anything
01:40:33.160 good.
01:40:33.600 Like, it's extremely
01:40:35.020 brutal.
01:40:35.600 And this was just part of
01:40:36.820 the, this was basically
01:40:38.020 every Indian tribe.
01:40:38.740 This is what they did.
01:40:39.560 You know, you, you go
01:40:41.260 in, you kill, oftentimes
01:40:43.300 just kill everyone, man,
01:40:44.820 woman, child, doesn't
01:40:45.540 matter.
01:40:46.260 Maybe you take the
01:40:47.180 children as slaves, you
01:40:48.100 take the women as
01:40:48.700 slaves.
01:40:49.240 Certainly the men, any
01:40:50.340 men would be killed, best
01:40:52.500 case scenario, or more
01:40:54.380 often they'd be captured
01:40:55.380 than tortured, just sort of
01:40:56.500 for fun and then killed.
01:40:57.660 This happened all across
01:40:58.760 the continent.
01:40:59.280 It was very common.
01:41:00.860 And then the European
01:41:02.200 settlers arrived and now
01:41:05.440 they are kind of joining in
01:41:07.260 this already, this, this,
01:41:09.960 this war of conquest that
01:41:11.380 had already been waging
01:41:12.840 for hundreds of years.
01:41:16.540 And now the European
01:41:18.060 settlers are just sort of
01:41:19.340 part of that.
01:41:20.200 They're part of that
01:41:20.840 conflict.
01:41:21.960 And they fought the war
01:41:23.520 also, and they ultimately
01:41:25.800 won it.
01:41:26.600 But once again, it's kind
01:41:28.040 of like with the slavery
01:41:28.660 thing, to cast them as the
01:41:30.800 villains in this story
01:41:32.040 really makes no sense.
01:41:33.720 And you really see that
01:41:35.120 when you understand the
01:41:36.840 history of what actually
01:41:37.400 happened, and we're going
01:41:38.400 to get into all that.
01:41:39.800 I mean, all of this would
01:41:40.840 really explain Elizabeth
01:41:41.900 Warren's ruthlessness in a
01:41:43.880 historical way.
01:41:45.000 So I appreciate you for
01:41:45.980 adding to the dialogue.
01:41:47.520 We can understand her
01:41:48.660 better.
01:41:49.400 Here's my, one of my
01:41:50.660 producers, Debbie Murphy's
01:41:51.900 been with me forever, and
01:41:52.960 she's up in Canada because
01:41:53.900 she married a Canadian.
01:41:55.260 And here's just an example
01:41:56.440 of the land
01:41:57.440 acknowledgement she has to
01:41:58.440 listen to wherever she
01:41:59.380 goes around Ontario.
01:42:01.340 The town is called
01:42:02.220 Burlington.
01:42:02.560 Burlington, as we know
01:42:03.800 it today, is rich in
01:42:04.680 history and modern
01:42:05.360 traditions of many
01:42:06.140 First Nation and the
01:42:07.240 Métis.
01:42:08.400 From the Anishinabeg,
01:42:11.460 Ashkenabeg?
01:42:12.420 Okay, I don't know.
01:42:13.600 Ashkenabi to the
01:42:14.960 Haudenosaunee and the
01:42:17.820 Métis, our lands spanning
01:42:19.520 from Lake Ontario to the
01:42:20.540 Niagara Escarpment are
01:42:21.840 steeped in Indigenous
01:42:22.580 history.
01:42:23.120 The territory is mutually
01:42:23.920 covered by the Dish with
01:42:25.560 One Spoon, Wampum Belt
01:42:27.300 Covenant, an agreement
01:42:28.540 between the Iroquois
01:42:29.600 Confederacy, the Ojibwe,
01:42:31.480 and other allied nations
01:42:33.020 to peaceably share and
01:42:33.980 care for the resources
01:42:34.680 around the Great Lakes.
01:42:35.740 We would like to
01:42:36.160 acknowledge that the
01:42:37.300 land on which we gather
01:42:38.140 is part of the treaty
01:42:38.820 lands and territory of
01:42:39.820 the Métis-gaws of the
01:42:41.460 Credit.
01:42:42.620 What the hell is that,
01:42:43.660 Matt Walsh?
01:42:44.220 We have to keep saying
01:42:45.320 this, not just in Canada,
01:42:47.140 but in places like the
01:42:48.440 Northeast of the United
01:42:49.540 States, because the
01:42:51.120 counter-narrative to the
01:42:52.080 one you just gave us is
01:42:53.440 the dominant one.
01:42:54.380 The peaceful Native
01:42:55.200 Americans with the
01:42:56.140 single tear, the white
01:42:57.880 man with the smallpox
01:42:59.040 blanket is what is
01:43:00.260 dominant, and if
01:43:02.160 people want to know
01:43:02.880 the truth, how do
01:43:04.300 they find it with real
01:43:05.680 history with Matt
01:43:06.920 Walsh?
01:43:08.060 Well, you go to
01:43:08.880 Daily Wire, and it's
01:43:11.240 available right now to
01:43:12.780 subscribers on, the
01:43:14.220 first episode's available
01:43:14.900 to subscribers on
01:43:15.820 Daily Wire.
01:43:17.940 Awesome.
01:43:18.740 All right, well, thank
01:43:19.420 you for that antidote to
01:43:20.660 Howard Zinn and for
01:43:22.360 your comments and
01:43:23.480 thoughts on everything.
01:43:25.060 Matt, great to see you.
01:43:25.780 OK, and we are, speaking
01:43:27.920 of common sense takes on
01:43:29.020 things, we're back
01:43:29.900 tomorrow with James
01:43:30.820 Woods.
01:43:31.860 I'm actually really
01:43:32.960 looking forward to his
01:43:33.860 take on these lunatic
01:43:35.720 protesters, aren't you?
01:43:37.520 I really want to hear
01:43:38.980 what he has to say, and
01:43:40.040 I'd love to get his take
01:43:41.320 on what happened at this
01:43:42.940 church service.
01:43:44.200 Yours, too.
01:43:45.060 Email me, Megan, at
01:43:46.220 MeganKelley.com.
01:43:48.760 Thanks for listening to
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