The Megyn Kelly Show - Ben Shapiro on Biden Mental Fitness Gaslighting, FBI's Pro-Life Activist Raid, and Gender Reality

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00:00:30.620 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

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00:00:41.260 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.

00:00:43.040 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:44.640 Our two-year anniversary week continues

00:00:46.900 and it's been a great mix of shows so far.

00:00:49.440 We had Mike Rinder on,

00:00:50.960 one of the top grand poobahs in Scientology

00:00:53.980 before he left yesterday.

00:00:56.560 Father Mike Schmitz to talk Catholicism

00:00:58.560 and his smash podcast,

00:01:01.520 The Bible in a Year,

00:01:02.720 the day before that.

00:01:03.620 And now we are joined today

00:01:04.800 by one of our first guests ever

00:01:07.380 and my old pal from The Kelly File,

00:01:09.800 Ben Shapiro,

00:01:11.160 also known as Digital Media King.

00:01:13.600 There is so much news to get to.

00:01:15.300 Florida is assessing the massive damage

00:01:17.520 right now from Hurricane Ian

00:01:18.720 and Ben's down there.

00:01:20.600 I mean, that's where his home is.

00:01:21.640 And the White House is trying to clean up

00:01:23.720 one of Biden's most absurd moments

00:01:27.320 since he's taken...

00:01:28.600 I mean, I'm sure you've heard it

00:01:30.000 or seen it by now.

00:01:31.700 It was like, as soon as I got off the air yesterday,

00:01:33.180 everybody was like,

00:01:34.020 oh my God, wait until you see.

00:01:35.960 It was terrible.

00:01:37.560 It was bad.

00:01:38.580 It was bad even for Corrine Jean-Pierre.

00:01:40.480 And that's saying something

00:01:41.220 because everything she does is bad.

00:01:42.660 But this is especially bad.

00:01:44.200 My old pal James Rosen makes an appearance

00:01:46.240 in the montage that we've cut for you.

00:01:47.840 So there's so much to get to.

00:01:49.620 Let's do that.

00:01:51.000 Ben Shapiro is editor emeritus of The Daily Wire

00:01:54.100 and host of The Ben Shapiro Show.

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00:02:11.520 Espionage?

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00:02:28.060 Ben, welcome back.

00:02:31.820 Great to have you.

00:02:33.180 Hey, thanks for having me.

00:02:34.220 Congratulations on this year anniversary.

00:02:35.620 That's awesome.

00:02:36.140 Thank you.

00:02:36.680 Thank you for helping make it a success.

00:02:38.500 I like the beard and mustache.

00:02:41.320 Oh, thanks.

00:02:42.300 Yeah, and I just,

00:02:42.880 I finally hit puberty, so.

00:02:45.400 I really like it.

00:02:46.640 My team was like,

00:02:47.580 hey, he's got a beard.

00:02:48.360 I'm like, he does?

00:02:49.420 I usually listen to your show.

00:02:50.520 I don't usually watch it,

00:02:51.600 so I haven't seen this,

00:02:52.560 but I like it.

00:02:53.100 It's like, it's close shaven.

00:02:54.620 It's not like, you know,

00:02:55.280 scraggly professor look.

00:02:56.900 It's just like a little.

00:02:57.480 If it gets too long,

00:02:58.520 I turn into a rabbi.

00:02:59.620 So it's a,

00:03:00.180 I have to be careful

00:03:01.020 about the length on this thing.

00:03:03.420 Yeah, and you could just wake up

00:03:04.540 one morning and it's happened.

00:03:06.200 Exactly.

00:03:06.780 Well, I mean,

00:03:07.080 I'm just that much of a man.

00:03:07.900 I actually didn't shave

00:03:08.680 for about a day and a half

00:03:09.580 and boom,

00:03:10.320 it was just like that, so.

00:03:11.920 Well, since we are

00:03:12.640 a couple of days past Rosh Hashanah,

00:03:14.420 happy new year

00:03:15.080 and hope you have a nice holiday.

00:03:18.080 There's so much to get to.

00:03:18.940 So let's just jump right in.

00:03:20.480 The clip of Biden yesterday

00:03:21.880 is, I mean,

00:03:22.840 second to none

00:03:23.720 when it comes to his gaffes.

00:03:26.140 So he has an event

00:03:27.460 at the White House

00:03:28.180 and he is,

00:03:29.900 it's about hunger, basically.

00:03:31.900 And there,

00:03:32.620 it's at the White House Conference

00:03:33.620 on Hunger Nutrition

00:03:34.400 and Health Met

00:03:35.080 and he speaks

00:03:36.260 and he knew,

00:03:38.060 he knew

00:03:38.660 that this Indiana Congresswoman,

00:03:41.280 Jackie Walorski,

00:03:42.220 who was a Republican,

00:03:43.460 was the co-chair

00:03:44.720 of the House Hunger Caucus.

00:03:46.080 All right.

00:03:46.500 And he also knew

00:03:47.380 that this woman

00:03:47.880 had been killed

00:03:48.720 on August 3rd

00:03:50.440 in a two-car crash

00:03:52.500 in Indiana,

00:03:53.340 along with two people

00:03:54.300 who work with her.

00:03:55.420 The White House

00:03:56.100 had previously released

00:03:57.340 a statement

00:03:57.860 on this woman's death

00:03:59.300 and apparently

00:04:00.300 there had been

00:04:00.820 some sort of a tribute

00:04:01.540 to her at this event

00:04:02.540 as well.

00:04:03.140 So he knew

00:04:04.440 all of that

00:04:05.120 and he gets up there

00:04:06.500 and had the following comments.

00:04:09.100 Watch, listen.

00:04:10.600 And I want to thank

00:04:11.400 all of you here

00:04:12.040 for including

00:04:13.120 bipartisan elected officials

00:04:14.500 like Representative Gover

00:04:16.140 and Senator Braun,

00:04:17.640 Senator Booker,

00:04:18.860 Representative Jackie,

00:04:20.680 are you here?

00:04:21.340 Where's Jackie?

00:04:22.460 I didn't think

00:04:23.080 she was going to be here.

00:04:26.120 Jackie, are you here?

00:04:27.700 She was going to be here.

00:04:30.760 Jackie's not here.

00:04:32.680 She's no longer with us.

00:04:33.680 God rest Jackie's soul.

00:04:35.440 He hasn't had a gaffe

00:04:36.600 this bad since he told

00:04:37.600 the gentleman

00:04:38.080 in the wheelchair,

00:04:39.000 stand up,

00:04:39.680 stand up so people

00:04:40.440 can see you.

00:04:41.180 Remember?

00:04:41.540 Oh, God, I love you.

00:04:42.660 Like, it's so bad.

00:04:44.380 So then,

00:04:44.800 just to finish the setup,

00:04:46.420 Corrine Jean-Pierre

00:04:47.280 takes the incoming

00:04:48.200 and finds her new

00:04:49.820 favorite phrase,

00:04:51.320 top of mind,

00:04:52.220 top of mind.

00:04:53.120 Here she is

00:04:53.740 trying to explain

00:04:54.400 away this moment.

00:04:54.980 What happened

00:04:56.880 in the hunger event today?

00:04:58.020 The president appeared

00:04:58.700 to look around the room

00:04:59.760 for an audience member,

00:05:02.080 a member of Congress

00:05:02.820 who passed away last month

00:05:04.120 and seemed to indicate

00:05:04.780 she might be in the room.

00:05:05.980 What happened?

00:05:06.700 So the president was,

00:05:08.440 as you all know,

00:05:09.200 you guys were watching

00:05:09.940 today's event,

00:05:11.040 a very important event

00:05:12.580 on food insecurity.

00:05:14.220 The president was naming

00:05:15.200 the congressional champions

00:05:16.780 on this issue

00:05:17.720 and was acknowledging

00:05:18.980 her incredible work.

00:05:20.720 He had already planned

00:05:23.260 to welcome

00:05:23.860 the congresswoman's family

00:05:25.640 to the White House

00:05:26.860 on Friday.

00:05:27.620 There will be a bill signing

00:05:29.340 in her honor

00:05:30.080 this coming Friday.

00:05:31.860 So, of course,

00:05:32.880 she was on his mind.

00:05:34.280 She was of top of mind

00:05:35.420 for the president.

00:05:36.820 Jackie, are you here?

00:05:38.120 Where's Jackie?

00:05:38.860 She must not be here.

00:05:40.040 No, I totally understand.

00:05:41.280 I just explained.

00:05:42.500 She was on top of mind.

00:05:43.760 But I think the confusing part

00:05:45.080 is why,

00:05:46.300 if she and the family

00:05:47.120 is top of mind,

00:05:48.600 does the president think

00:05:49.620 that she's living

00:05:50.340 and in the room?

00:05:51.300 I don't find that confusing.

00:05:52.720 I have John Lennon

00:05:53.500 top of mind

00:05:54.200 just about every day,

00:05:55.040 but I'm not looking

00:05:55.680 around for him anyway.

00:05:57.300 When you sign a bill

00:05:58.280 for John Lennon

00:05:59.180 as president,

00:06:00.340 then we can have

00:06:00.840 this conversation.

00:06:01.700 Okay, go ahead.

00:06:02.740 Go ahead.

00:06:03.180 These moments of confusion

00:06:04.680 are happening

00:06:05.380 with your race.

00:06:06.160 Go ahead.

00:06:07.120 Americans are watching

00:06:09.080 this that are happening.

00:06:10.080 What do you say to that?

00:06:12.080 This is a legitimate question.

00:06:13.980 We need to have some answers.

00:06:15.220 The administration

00:06:15.460 at the end of the year.

00:06:17.360 What can you tell us about?

00:06:18.320 I'm sorry.

00:06:18.640 Somebody was yelling

00:06:19.560 over you,

00:06:20.340 so go ahead.

00:06:22.140 There are reports

00:06:22.920 that Secretary Yellen

00:06:24.340 is looking to leave.

00:06:25.000 It is not your turn

00:06:25.840 to speak,

00:06:26.580 and you're being rude

00:06:27.380 to your colleagues

00:06:28.220 and let your colleague

00:06:29.220 answer the question.

00:06:31.300 Oh my God, Ben.

00:06:32.680 What did you make of it?

00:06:34.200 Well, I mean,

00:06:34.720 honestly,

00:06:35.420 Joe Biden making gaffes

00:06:36.680 where it's very clear

00:06:37.600 that all the bats

00:06:38.480 are not in the belfry

00:06:39.280 is not anything new.

00:06:40.400 I mean,

00:06:40.560 this is something

00:06:41.020 that he's been doing

00:06:41.720 for a couple of years.

00:06:42.660 It wasn't like

00:06:43.000 there was a lot going on

00:06:43.880 mentally with Joe Biden

00:06:45.140 even 15 years ago

00:06:46.140 when he was mostly there.

00:06:47.120 Now he's mostly not there.

00:06:48.580 And so that wasn't

00:06:49.260 the shocking part.

00:06:50.280 And Karine Jean-Pierre

00:06:50.980 doing this attempt

00:06:52.220 to spin it away

00:06:52.900 is really the shocking part.

00:06:54.240 She should have just said

00:06:55.000 he forgot that she died

00:06:56.660 and everybody can see that.

00:06:57.740 And he apologizes for that.

00:06:59.080 And then everybody

00:06:59.500 sort of moves on.

00:07:00.560 It's not as though

00:07:01.020 people can't see

00:07:01.980 what they are seeing,

00:07:02.640 but this constant attempt

00:07:04.220 by members of the White House

00:07:06.300 to spin away the fact

00:07:07.620 that we know

00:07:08.620 that Joe Biden

00:07:09.380 is not all there,

00:07:10.380 it really is beyond parody

00:07:12.000 at this point.

00:07:12.700 And it speaks to a broader

00:07:13.840 problem in American public life,

00:07:14.900 which is we can't just look

00:07:15.640 at our public officials

00:07:16.360 as the doofuses that they are.

00:07:17.800 We can't just look at Joe Biden

00:07:18.760 and say, OK,

00:07:19.540 the guy makes a lot of gaffes.

00:07:20.540 He obviously is not fully on.

00:07:22.720 The lights may be on in the attic,

00:07:23.740 but there's no one home.

00:07:24.860 You can't just say that

00:07:25.880 about the president.

00:07:26.440 Instead, you have to try

00:07:27.060 to pretend that he full well

00:07:28.320 knew she was dead.

00:07:29.360 He was just calling her

00:07:30.120 out of the audience

00:07:30.760 because he's like Bruce Willis

00:07:31.980 in Sixth Sense

00:07:32.620 and actually can see

00:07:33.820 into the great beyond,

00:07:35.380 which if he could,

00:07:36.400 then he should ask

00:07:37.040 some financial advice

00:07:37.960 from some folks of the past

00:07:39.380 because obviously his policies

00:07:40.640 have learned nothing from that.

00:07:42.900 It's that you're exactly right.

00:07:44.240 Her attempt to spin

00:07:45.220 is even worse than what he did.

00:07:47.140 And people are like,

00:07:47.620 oh, he should apologize.

00:07:48.560 I'm like, I don't.

00:07:49.260 I mean, like he clearly

00:07:50.200 didn't mean any offense

00:07:51.340 to the woman's family.

00:07:52.160 He doesn't have

00:07:52.580 the mental facility any longer

00:07:53.800 to even know

00:07:54.380 whether she's dead or alive.

00:07:55.280 We can all see that.

00:07:56.340 So it wasn't an intentional.

00:07:57.600 And even the Congresswoman's brother

00:08:00.420 is in the news today saying,

00:08:02.200 basically, he feels bad for Biden.

00:08:04.100 He feels sorry for him.

00:08:05.720 And there's an element of that, right?

00:08:07.720 As you see this senior citizen

00:08:09.620 really struggling

00:08:10.380 to hold on to his faculties.

00:08:12.120 If you can forget for a moment

00:08:13.380 that he's president

00:08:14.000 of the United States,

00:08:14.680 you can have a real moment

00:08:15.680 of feeling sorry for him.

00:08:17.060 And then as soon as you remember

00:08:18.080 he's president,

00:08:18.660 you just feel sorry for yourself

00:08:20.120 and your country, right?

00:08:22.640 But then Corrine Jean-Pierre comes in

00:08:24.420 and she's agreed to do this job

00:08:26.020 of cleanup in aisle seven.

00:08:27.540 And there's never been anyone

00:08:28.820 worse at it than Corrine is.

00:08:30.680 It is astonishing how bad she is at this.

00:08:32.980 And I understand she's historic

00:08:34.000 because she's so historically historic

00:08:35.500 and all the historicity

00:08:36.740 of her historicness.

00:08:37.980 But the reality is

00:08:39.080 that she sucks at this job.

00:08:40.120 I mean, she is truly awful at this job.

00:08:42.000 Well, you can at least say

00:08:42.620 about Jen Psaki

00:08:43.460 is that Jen Psaki

00:08:44.740 was capable of spinning.

00:08:46.460 I may not have thought

00:08:47.340 that she was telling the truth

00:08:48.160 very often,

00:08:48.760 but at least she was

00:08:49.380 pretty good at the job.

00:08:50.400 I remember when Robert Gibbs

00:08:51.200 was press secretary for Obama

00:08:52.480 and I thought that guy lies a lot,

00:08:53.620 but at least he's pretty good at this.

00:08:55.000 She is just sheerly awful.

00:08:56.640 And to a certain extent,

00:08:57.380 I find that almost charming

00:08:58.440 because we're getting a lot

00:09:00.020 of sort of unintentional,

00:09:02.220 not only comedy, but truth

00:09:03.360 because it's so obvious

00:09:04.340 that she's lying.

00:09:04.980 It's so obvious that nothing

00:09:06.120 that she's saying is the case.

00:09:07.580 And so when you watch her

00:09:08.680 trying to pretend that you

00:09:10.100 you can't have an opinion

00:09:11.500 on Joe Biden talking to the dead

00:09:13.100 unless you signed a bill

00:09:14.460 for a person who has died

00:09:16.320 and then gone on stage

00:09:17.380 and done exactly

00:09:18.040 what Joe Biden has done.

00:09:19.160 And this is this is redefining

00:09:20.780 sort of the standard

00:09:22.240 for criticism

00:09:22.980 to a whole new level.

00:09:23.900 So basically,

00:09:24.360 unless I'm an 80 year old president

00:09:26.380 losing my mental faculties

00:09:27.720 and calling out dead people

00:09:28.840 from on stage,

00:09:29.400 I cannot criticize

00:09:30.200 an 80 year old president

00:09:31.740 who is losing his mental faculties

00:09:33.820 and calling out the dead on stage.

00:09:35.720 That was so that's what she

00:09:36.840 you're referencing that part

00:09:37.780 where she had the exchange

00:09:38.500 with James, James Rosen,

00:09:39.760 who was the one who said,

00:09:40.760 I have John Lennon

00:09:41.360 top of my mind every day.

00:09:42.940 And yet I don't walk into rooms

00:09:44.600 looking around for him.

00:09:45.780 And by the way,

00:09:46.260 having known Rosen for a long time,

00:09:47.700 that's 100 percent true.

00:09:48.680 The man's obsessed

00:09:49.680 with the Beatles.

00:09:50.540 He once told me a story

00:09:51.200 about how he went

00:09:51.760 to see Paul McCartney

00:09:52.580 playing someplace

00:09:53.900 in the D.C. area.

00:09:55.140 And he walked in.

00:09:56.480 It was like a radio show promotion.

00:09:57.700 And he, James,

00:09:58.820 got to play the very same piano

00:10:00.480 that Paul McCartney

00:10:01.580 had played moments earlier

00:10:02.620 at this radio show

00:10:03.960 promotion demo, whatever.

00:10:05.380 And he was just weeping,

00:10:07.220 just weeping.

00:10:07.980 I'm like, why?

00:10:08.800 He's like, these hands

00:10:10.140 touch the same ivories

00:10:11.600 that Paul McCartney.

00:10:13.240 And then he took his now wife,

00:10:15.120 then girlfriend

00:10:15.640 to a Paul McCartney concert.

00:10:17.740 He just cried the entire time,

00:10:20.020 cried.

00:10:20.660 I said, it's a miracle

00:10:21.720 your wife ever gets

00:10:22.940 in the bed with you, James,

00:10:23.900 ever, ever.

00:10:25.500 But my point is,

00:10:26.420 when he says he's obsessed

00:10:27.380 with John Lennon

00:10:28.060 and the Beatles,

00:10:28.840 he means it,

00:10:29.940 but he knows John Lennon

00:10:31.560 is dead

00:10:32.400 and doesn't look

00:10:34.240 around the room for him.

00:10:35.360 What point?

00:10:35.860 Well, made.

00:10:36.900 Well, you know, again,

00:10:37.520 one of the things

00:10:38.120 that happens here

00:10:39.060 is that Joe Biden

00:10:39.860 does this sort of stuff

00:10:40.940 and we all notice it.

00:10:41.920 And then the White House

00:10:42.580 tries to spin it away

00:10:43.380 and then we notice it some more.

00:10:44.620 And then the media said,

00:10:45.200 why are you spending

00:10:45.560 so much time on this?

00:10:46.540 Why are you even paying

00:10:47.120 attention to stuff like this?

00:10:48.320 Well, I mean,

00:10:48.700 let's be frank about this.

00:10:49.800 Joe Biden makes these gaffes

00:10:50.740 on an extraordinarily regular basis.

00:10:52.580 And this one happened

00:10:53.260 to be particularly egregious.

00:10:54.460 But yesterday,

00:10:55.540 there was footage of Jill

00:10:56.920 basically guiding him

00:10:57.900 away from a podium.

00:10:58.820 Two days before that,

00:10:59.620 there was footage

00:11:00.060 of Joe Biden at an event

00:11:01.240 walking away from a podium

00:11:02.260 while somebody was still

00:11:02.960 talking to him

00:11:03.680 and looking around

00:11:04.820 as though he's John Travolta

00:11:05.720 in Pulp Fiction,

00:11:06.580 looking around the room,

00:11:07.300 not knowing where he is.

00:11:08.620 And we're all supposed

00:11:09.180 to pretend that none

00:11:09.900 of this is happening.

00:11:10.800 It's all this bizarre

00:11:12.300 gaslighting attempt.

00:11:13.580 By the way,

00:11:13.980 a lot of this gaslighting

00:11:14.760 is going to go away

00:11:15.340 if the Democrats

00:11:15.900 lose the midterm.

00:11:16.660 So in November,

00:11:17.460 if the Democrats get

00:11:18.180 shellacked in the House,

00:11:18.940 if they lose the Senate,

00:11:20.380 then a lot of the calls

00:11:21.500 that we are now making

00:11:22.540 about being accurate

00:11:23.540 about his mental acuity

00:11:24.540 are going to start being

00:11:25.540 echoed by people on the left.

00:11:26.560 You saw a little bit

00:11:27.340 of this about four months ago

00:11:28.500 when it looked like the Democrats

00:11:29.800 were really in trouble.

00:11:30.820 And then the entire media

00:11:32.100 decided that they were going

00:11:32.940 to pump up this idea

00:11:33.960 that Joe Biden was actually

00:11:35.000 shockingly competent

00:11:36.420 at his job

00:11:37.120 and that he was getting

00:11:37.940 all sorts of things done

00:11:38.760 and aviator Joe was back

00:11:39.900 in all of this.

00:11:40.640 But if he falls on his face

00:11:41.980 again in the midterms,

00:11:42.760 then then watch for the calls

00:11:43.720 for him to go to start

00:11:44.500 pretty much five minutes later.

00:11:46.580 OK, but now here's

00:11:47.340 what's interesting

00:11:47.800 about that scenario.

00:11:49.260 So what do they do?

00:11:50.240 Right.

00:11:50.420 Gavin Newsom's like,

00:11:51.180 look at me,

00:11:51.560 look at me in my hair.

00:11:52.560 I'll do it.

00:11:53.340 But that requires them

00:11:54.640 to totally bypass

00:11:55.560 the first black female

00:11:58.060 vice president

00:11:58.820 in U.S. history

00:11:59.780 who is absolutely

00:12:01.540 going to feel

00:12:02.280 it is her turn

00:12:03.200 to ascend

00:12:04.160 if Joe Biden doesn't run.

00:12:05.880 So they've got to bypass her

00:12:07.000 despite the fact that

00:12:08.160 she's almost,

00:12:09.780 almost as bad as Biden

00:12:11.240 when it comes to the gaffes.

00:12:12.940 Here's one just from today.

00:12:14.600 She's stumbling over herself

00:12:15.840 and can't really understand

00:12:16.860 when to use the term

00:12:17.940 North Korea.

00:12:18.900 Watch.

00:12:19.060 So the United States

00:12:21.500 shares a very important

00:12:24.360 relationship,

00:12:25.320 which is an alliance

00:12:26.380 with the Republic

00:12:27.420 of North Korea.

00:12:29.040 What?

00:12:29.500 And it is an alliance

00:12:31.440 that is strong

00:12:32.240 and enduring.

00:12:33.980 It is?

00:12:35.520 I don't even know

00:12:36.280 what she was trying

00:12:36.820 to say, Ben.

00:12:37.620 Like, I get this daily

00:12:38.820 from her.

00:12:39.880 Well, the important thing

00:12:40.680 is that she finally

00:12:41.240 visited a border,

00:12:42.180 you know,

00:12:42.840 and she made a big deal

00:12:43.700 out of how she was

00:12:44.280 going to visit the border

00:12:45.140 and then and then

00:12:45.960 she had not visited

00:12:46.560 the border,

00:12:46.940 but she had visited

00:12:47.600 the border.

00:12:47.820 Well, now she visited

00:12:48.440 an actual secure border.

00:12:49.960 It happens to be the border

00:12:50.580 between North and South Korea,

00:12:51.880 but she is amazingly

00:12:54.200 bad at this job.

00:12:55.420 And again,

00:12:55.720 it turns out that

00:12:56.480 when you pick people

00:12:57.220 based on their historic

00:12:58.140 characteristics,

00:12:58.720 as opposed to on their

00:12:59.720 quality,

00:13:00.380 and those are not

00:13:00.740 mutually exclusive.

00:13:01.560 I'm sure that Joe Biden

00:13:02.640 could have found somebody

00:13:03.340 who was both black

00:13:04.820 and female

00:13:05.780 and also competent.

00:13:06.880 That would have been

00:13:07.440 a lot better than

00:13:08.080 picking Kamala Harris,

00:13:08.940 who is black and female

00:13:10.080 and historic

00:13:10.840 and also not competent

00:13:12.320 at all.

00:13:13.120 That really has come back

00:13:14.200 to bite her.

00:13:14.640 And it will be fun

00:13:15.280 to watch the sort of

00:13:16.000 internecine warfare

00:13:16.840 in the Democratic Party.

00:13:18.160 Should Kamala Harris

00:13:19.040 be sort of made

00:13:19.940 the heir apparent?

00:13:20.580 Because Gavin Newsom

00:13:21.200 is not going to go

00:13:21.700 quietly into that.

00:13:22.420 And I don't think

00:13:23.000 Pete Buttigieg will either.

00:13:24.000 I think that you're going

00:13:24.500 to get a massive battle

00:13:25.620 inside the Democratic Party.

00:13:26.760 And Joe Biden was

00:13:27.820 essentially the band-aid

00:13:28.960 placed on all of that

00:13:30.180 intersectional warfare

00:13:31.260 inside the Democratic Party

00:13:32.520 because he had the gloss

00:13:33.520 of Obama upon him.

00:13:34.660 But if he goes,

00:13:35.460 then there's going to be

00:13:36.020 some real questions

00:13:37.200 inside the Democratic Party.

00:13:38.260 I know everybody wants

00:13:38.700 to focus in on the

00:13:39.560 possibility of Trump

00:13:40.640 versus DeSantis

00:13:41.260 on the right side of the aisle.

00:13:42.520 But if Joe Biden goes,

00:13:43.460 it's going to get very,

00:13:44.180 very ugly on the left

00:13:44.920 side of the aisle.

00:13:46.420 Very, very quickly.

00:13:46.960 And Kareem Jean-Pierre

00:13:47.700 and Kamala Harris,

00:13:48.580 really, they both are

00:13:50.020 in a similar position

00:13:50.840 where it was very open

00:13:51.920 that they were selected

00:13:52.700 based on certain criteria

00:13:54.080 and they're falling down

00:13:54.980 on the job.

00:13:55.420 And it just goes to show you

00:13:56.440 how if you're going to make

00:13:58.080 the selection based on criteria,

00:13:59.940 you better find somebody

00:14:00.860 who's absolutely capable.

00:14:02.860 Otherwise, you're totally

00:14:03.800 undermining the very groups

00:14:05.140 that you purport

00:14:06.240 to be wanting to promote, right?

00:14:08.500 You've set them up to fail.

00:14:10.000 They should have taken

00:14:10.640 Ketanji Brown-Jackson

00:14:11.740 and put her in the VP role

00:14:13.140 because I guarantee you

00:14:13.940 she's smarter than Kamala Harris

00:14:15.080 and could have done

00:14:15.980 a better job of it.

00:14:17.720 OK, let's talk about the midterms

00:14:19.000 because you mentioned it

00:14:19.600 for one second.

00:14:20.700 So there was this ABC News poll

00:14:22.080 that came out earlier this week

00:14:23.100 showing it's tightening

00:14:24.200 that the Republicans

00:14:24.940 are doing better.

00:14:26.120 I mean, it's tightening

00:14:26.740 from where it was

00:14:27.480 when the Democrats

00:14:28.020 made a little run for it

00:14:29.000 late in the summer.

00:14:30.640 And it was pointing out

00:14:31.820 that historically,

00:14:32.460 if you have a president

00:14:33.320 whose approval rating

00:14:34.100 is below 50%,

00:14:35.500 then his party will lose

00:14:37.440 about 14 seats.

00:14:39.340 Sorry, above, above 50%.

00:14:41.380 His party will lose

00:14:42.080 about 14 seats in the midterms.

00:14:43.680 If it's below 50%,

00:14:45.040 historically, they'll lose

00:14:46.380 around three dozen,

00:14:47.840 around three dozen seats.

00:14:49.320 If that's the case here,

00:14:50.760 the Republicans have

00:14:51.480 way more than they need

00:14:52.580 to actually take control

00:14:53.480 of the House PAC.

00:14:54.180 And Joe Biden's approval rating

00:14:55.340 at best right now is 39.

00:14:58.200 It's about 39,

00:14:59.200 according to that poll, 39%.

00:15:00.520 At best, the highest I've seen

00:15:02.460 lately has been like 42

00:15:03.520 when he was really

00:15:04.260 making a run for it.

00:15:05.200 It's nowhere near 50

00:15:06.040 is the point.

00:15:06.900 So it does look more and more

00:15:08.140 like it's going to be a bloodbath.

00:15:09.260 Maybe it won't be quite as bad

00:15:10.340 as it would have been in June

00:15:11.400 when we had $5 gas,

00:15:12.580 but it's going to be bad.

00:15:13.900 And what do you think

00:15:14.700 the odds of that are?

00:15:15.760 Like, how do you like

00:15:16.320 the Democrats' chances

00:15:17.360 of losing the House?

00:15:18.840 And what do you think

00:15:20.040 is going to happen

00:15:20.400 in the Senate?

00:15:20.860 Because everybody,

00:15:21.440 all the smart people

00:15:22.000 I listen to are like,

00:15:22.800 it's going to be within

00:15:23.800 like one seat.

00:15:25.120 You know, it could go either way.

00:15:26.160 I very rarely make

00:15:27.280 a 100% guarantee,

00:15:28.400 but I 100% guarantee

00:15:29.360 the Republicans are going

00:15:30.080 to take the House.

00:15:30.680 Just structurally speaking,

00:15:31.940 it is almost impossible

00:15:32.980 for them not to take the House.

00:15:34.780 They only have to pick up

00:15:36.160 a few seats in order to do that.

00:15:37.920 And right now,

00:15:38.540 even sort of the low-end estimates

00:15:39.940 from Nate Silver

00:15:41.020 or from the folks

00:15:42.600 at The New York Times

00:15:43.160 are suggesting that Republicans

00:15:44.260 are going to pick up

00:15:44.860 anywhere from about

00:15:45.540 15 to 20 seats.

00:15:46.580 So it would be an absolute shock

00:15:48.420 if Republicans don't pick up

00:15:50.000 at least that number.

00:15:51.720 You know, the idea

00:15:52.200 of a 60-seat swing

00:15:53.040 like we've seen in the past,

00:15:53.780 I think that that's largely

00:15:54.520 been taken off the table

00:15:55.380 because there's already been

00:15:56.340 this great ideological sort

00:15:57.720 in terms of

00:15:58.440 congressional districts.

00:15:59.200 So thanks to the redistricting,

00:16:01.220 thanks to the fact

00:16:01.720 that there are more

00:16:02.160 kind of pure red seats

00:16:03.780 versus pure blue seats,

00:16:05.460 there aren't nearly

00:16:06.000 as many crossover seats

00:16:06.920 as there once were,

00:16:07.880 you know, seats that,

00:16:08.680 for example,

00:16:09.340 would have voted for Biden

00:16:10.420 but now are shifting

00:16:11.060 into the Republican category.

00:16:12.880 That said, the House,

00:16:13.780 it's pretty clear

00:16:14.340 that the Republicans

00:16:14.900 are going to win the House.

00:16:15.840 As far as the Senate goes,

00:16:17.260 you know, I'm a little bit

00:16:18.260 more optimistic

00:16:19.260 than I think most

00:16:20.720 of the prognosticators are

00:16:22.040 about the Republican chances

00:16:23.080 in the Senate.

00:16:23.920 First of all,

00:16:24.260 I think Adam Laxalt

00:16:24.960 is going to win his seat

00:16:25.840 in Nevada over Cortez Masto.

00:16:27.640 People aren't paying

00:16:28.860 as much attention

00:16:29.540 to that particular race

00:16:30.820 as they should be.

00:16:32.300 There's a lot of talk

00:16:33.080 about Warnock versus Walker

00:16:34.220 in Georgia

00:16:34.860 because Walker

00:16:35.380 is a fairly weak candidate.

00:16:36.660 I think that because

00:16:37.780 the Stacey Abrams campaign

00:16:40.300 is really falling down

00:16:41.700 on the job

00:16:42.360 and Brian Kemp

00:16:42.840 is going to clean her clock

00:16:43.600 in Georgia,

00:16:44.440 I think Walker

00:16:45.080 probably wins that seat,

00:16:46.940 which I might not have said

00:16:47.860 a few months back.

00:16:49.140 I also think that people

00:16:50.100 are already giving up

00:16:51.280 too early on the Fetterman-Oz race

00:16:52.800 simply because

00:16:53.440 Fetterman is not healthy

00:16:55.420 and that's a real problem for him.

00:16:56.840 The fact that that race

00:16:58.220 centralized on Oz

00:16:59.260 is just a demonstration

00:17:00.080 of the power of the media

00:17:00.820 given how radical Fetterman is

00:17:02.140 because Fetterman really is

00:17:03.240 almost left to Bernie Sanders

00:17:05.000 in a state that is

00:17:06.000 certainly not Vermont.

00:17:07.580 And so the possibility

00:17:08.560 that Fetterman loses that seat,

00:17:10.200 I'm going to say

00:17:10.900 that he still has,

00:17:11.740 you know,

00:17:11.960 sort of a,

00:17:12.840 I would say a 60% shot

00:17:14.080 at winning that seat,

00:17:14.680 but I don't think it's anything

00:17:15.340 like what you're seeing right now

00:17:16.500 where people are saying

00:17:16.980 it's a 90% shot

00:17:17.960 that he wins that seat.

00:17:20.020 Arizona looks very dicey

00:17:21.180 for the Republicans,

00:17:22.060 but Democrats already

00:17:22.860 hold that seat.

00:17:23.400 I think Ron Johnson

00:17:24.300 is going to hold his seat

00:17:25.040 in Wisconsin.

00:17:25.460 So again,

00:17:26.540 if I had to ballpark it right now,

00:17:27.880 I think that I would put it

00:17:28.700 like 55, 45,

00:17:29.700 the Republicans actually

00:17:30.380 take the Senate.

00:17:31.300 And that's a shift

00:17:31.760 from where I was,

00:17:32.500 I would say,

00:17:32.940 even a few months ago.

00:17:34.800 All right.

00:17:34.920 So even though you're not

00:17:35.960 necessarily in the business

00:17:37.160 of prognosticating,

00:17:38.420 let's do spend a minute

00:17:39.380 on the Republican side

00:17:40.720 and on Trump-DeSantis.

00:17:42.280 The latest poll shows

00:17:43.280 now that at least in Florida

00:17:44.720 where you've moved

00:17:45.980 from California,

00:17:47.940 DeSantis is up

00:17:48.780 with Florida GOP

00:17:49.900 primary voters,

00:17:50.800 which is somewhat

00:17:52.020 of a, you know,

00:17:52.820 harbinger.

00:17:54.280 He's got,

00:17:55.000 it's 48 to 40 now,

00:17:56.340 DeSantis over Trump

00:17:57.160 as the preference

00:17:58.060 for Republicans

00:17:58.760 in Florida.

00:18:00.060 And in January,

00:18:00.960 it was exactly the reverse.

00:18:02.200 I think it was 47 over 40

00:18:03.440 in Trump's favor, right?

00:18:04.800 So you've got a 15-point swing

00:18:06.200 there in favor of DeSantis.

00:18:08.220 And it has many asking,

00:18:09.980 you know,

00:18:10.400 is Trump's influence

00:18:11.980 starting to wane?

00:18:13.040 Are Republicans ready

00:18:14.240 to move on?

00:18:15.120 What do you think?

00:18:16.280 I mean,

00:18:16.820 I think that when you talk

00:18:17.820 to most people

00:18:18.760 who like Trump,

00:18:19.640 even people who are

00:18:20.320 really fans of Trump,

00:18:21.420 and listen,

00:18:21.860 I voted for him

00:18:22.400 last time around.

00:18:23.220 If he's the nominee

00:18:23.740 this time around,

00:18:24.340 I assume I'd vote for him again.

00:18:25.740 The fact is that

00:18:27.120 Trump is an extraordinarily

00:18:28.620 tiring person to defend

00:18:30.420 if you're on the right

00:18:31.020 side of the aisle

00:18:31.620 because when his pitch

00:18:33.340 in 2016 was basically

00:18:34.660 they're attacking me

00:18:35.420 because they're attacking you,

00:18:36.560 I think that that

00:18:37.300 held a lot of weight.

00:18:38.120 I think a lot of people saw

00:18:38.980 that Trump had been

00:18:39.700 very popular with the left

00:18:40.820 for literally years.

00:18:41.900 I mean,

00:18:42.000 they were giving him Emmy awards

00:18:43.040 and then all of a sudden

00:18:43.900 they hate his guts

00:18:44.600 and they said,

00:18:44.920 why is that happening?

00:18:45.660 Well,

00:18:45.760 it's probably because

00:18:46.420 he's now defending us

00:18:47.560 and so he's taking

00:18:48.220 the bullet for us.

00:18:49.320 Well,

00:18:49.400 since 2020,

00:18:50.440 because Trump has been

00:18:51.340 so focused in on

00:18:52.100 the 2020 election,

00:18:52.880 the idea has been

00:18:53.560 you're supposed to

00:18:54.440 sort of take the bullet

00:18:55.080 for him.

00:18:55.880 He's asking of you

00:18:56.880 that you go out there

00:18:57.580 and you talk about

00:18:58.060 the election and says,

00:18:58.780 forget about what

00:18:59.200 you think about it.

00:18:59.900 You should make this

00:19:00.720 like the number one

00:19:01.660 priority is talking

00:19:02.940 about the election

00:19:03.500 and most Republicans

00:19:04.140 are like,

00:19:04.520 I don't really want

00:19:06.020 to talk about that

00:19:06.840 as my number one priority.

00:19:08.280 My number one priority

00:19:09.040 is stopping what Joe Biden

00:19:10.120 is doing right now.

00:19:11.620 I don't think Trump

00:19:12.040 did himself any favors

00:19:12.920 when he essentially

00:19:13.780 handed two Senate seats

00:19:14.880 to the Democrats

00:19:15.780 in Georgia.

00:19:16.720 I don't think Trump

00:19:17.200 is doing himself

00:19:17.680 any favors right now

00:19:18.400 when he raises

00:19:18.820 a vast quantity

00:19:20.040 of capital

00:19:20.540 and then does not

00:19:21.480 expend it on many

00:19:22.280 of the candidates

00:19:22.800 that he's helped

00:19:23.340 boost to victory

00:19:24.080 in a lot of these

00:19:25.120 Republican primaries.

00:19:25.880 I'm talking like

00:19:26.260 J.D. Vance in Ohio

00:19:27.180 or Mehmet Oz in Pennsylvania

00:19:28.620 or Blake Masters

00:19:29.360 in Arizona.

00:19:30.440 And then they look

00:19:31.220 at DeSantis

00:19:31.860 and DeSantis

00:19:32.460 took what was

00:19:33.780 a very purple state

00:19:34.700 and he has turned it

00:19:35.480 almost bright red

00:19:36.580 and he's very effective

00:19:38.140 in terms of how

00:19:38.840 he's governing.

00:19:39.500 He's very effective

00:19:40.080 at taking on the media.

00:19:41.660 He doesn't have

00:19:41.980 the pizzazz of Trump

00:19:42.660 because nobody in

00:19:43.580 I think human history

00:19:44.540 has had the pizzazz

00:19:45.300 that President Trump has.

00:19:46.760 He's just a magnetic figure

00:19:47.860 in a way that no politician

00:19:49.440 of my lifetime really is.

00:19:50.920 On the left,

00:19:51.220 you might say Obama,

00:19:51.880 but that's probably it.

00:19:53.480 But, you know,

00:19:54.320 again, I think that

00:19:55.180 if you are a Republican

00:19:56.080 who's just looking

00:19:56.680 to beat the Democrats

00:19:57.520 and to change policy

00:19:58.420 and you want an executive

00:19:59.260 who actually knows

00:20:00.680 how to govern,

00:20:01.280 see, it's not that

00:20:02.340 Trump was horrible

00:20:03.420 at governing.

00:20:03.820 It's that the man

00:20:04.260 had never held

00:20:05.160 a governmental position

00:20:05.940 in his life.

00:20:06.560 He came in

00:20:07.060 and he has an executive

00:20:08.020 branch of two million people.

00:20:09.340 And so the question

00:20:09.800 is, who do you fire?

00:20:10.880 DeSantis spent years

00:20:11.820 in Congress.

00:20:12.500 Now he's the governor

00:20:12.980 of a major state.

00:20:14.240 And so if he comes in,

00:20:15.080 he's going to come in

00:20:15.660 with like a game plan

00:20:16.600 on day one

00:20:17.420 in a way that Trump

00:20:18.340 really had to sort of

00:20:18.920 feel his way through.

00:20:20.080 Plus, DeSantis is just

00:20:21.280 a much more disciplined

00:20:22.020 campaigner.

00:20:22.600 I mean, he only talks

00:20:23.280 about the things

00:20:23.800 that he wants to talk about.

00:20:25.500 And so he provides

00:20:26.400 the Democrats,

00:20:27.320 I think, with a lot less fodder

00:20:28.380 to attack.

00:20:29.160 It doesn't mean they won't attack

00:20:30.020 him.

00:20:30.160 They've tried it.

00:20:30.680 But that's, I think,

00:20:31.660 precisely the point

00:20:32.320 is that unlike a lot

00:20:33.320 of other Republican

00:20:33.860 candidates in the past,

00:20:34.940 you know, I remember

00:20:35.320 when Scott Walker

00:20:35.980 was a front runner

00:20:36.640 in 2016 for all five minutes

00:20:38.320 or Tim Pawlenty.

00:20:39.280 Remember, there's a lot

00:20:39.760 of talk about these candidates

00:20:40.660 who sort of blew up

00:20:41.580 on the launch pad

00:20:42.220 with DeSantis

00:20:43.620 because he's gone

00:20:44.640 through the wars

00:20:45.180 over COVID with the media

00:20:45.980 where he was made

00:20:46.540 like public enemy

00:20:47.360 number one by the media

00:20:48.720 and then he stood up to it

00:20:49.680 or when he went to war

00:20:50.780 with Disney

00:20:51.280 or now I assume

00:20:52.500 after this hurricane

00:20:53.320 there will be attempts

00:20:53.900 to suggest that

00:20:54.820 he's responsible

00:20:55.580 for whatever human suffering

00:20:56.560 happens in the state

00:20:57.320 of Florida.

00:20:58.100 Because of all that,

00:20:59.060 I think a lot of Republicans

00:20:59.860 have faith that DeSantis

00:21:01.220 can fight back.

00:21:02.840 So I'm not super shocked

00:21:04.380 to see people,

00:21:05.340 even people who are

00:21:05.860 warm toward Trump

00:21:06.400 thinking, okay, well,

00:21:07.260 I love Trump,

00:21:07.960 but I'm kind of ready

00:21:09.120 for something new,

00:21:09.800 maybe somebody who's

00:21:10.480 a little bit more disciplined

00:21:11.360 who I don't have to spend time

00:21:12.900 mental space on

00:21:14.240 with regard to his Twitter feed.

00:21:17.160 Believe it or not,

00:21:17.940 the Lincoln Project

00:21:18.600 will be part of,

00:21:19.600 we think,

00:21:20.180 the next election cycle.

00:21:21.380 It's amazing to me.

00:21:22.380 Like, how can it possibly be?

00:21:23.820 I thought they were dead.

00:21:24.740 I thought they were like,

00:21:25.360 they're like the cockroach

00:21:26.280 that keeps coming back.

00:21:28.320 And it's to the point now

00:21:29.720 where I think,

00:21:30.640 is it Netflix

00:21:31.240 that is now releasing

00:21:32.560 a documentary

00:21:33.480 on the Lincoln Project

00:21:35.700 Showtime?

00:21:36.580 Okay, done by,

00:21:37.260 if I'm not mistaken,

00:21:38.320 as I looked at it,

00:21:39.100 Fisher Stevens.

00:21:39.920 Remember that guy?

00:21:41.000 Actor, I guess now director.

00:21:42.420 He used to date Michelle Pfeiffer,

00:21:44.140 which is like your ones,

00:21:45.320 any man's greatest claim to fame.

00:21:47.360 In any event,

00:21:48.500 he was doing a documentary

00:21:49.820 on the Lincoln Project

00:21:50.900 and I think getting ready

00:21:52.320 to lionize them

00:21:53.280 and show everybody,

00:21:54.340 you know,

00:21:54.500 what badasses they are

00:21:55.520 and how they helped

00:21:56.060 take down Trump

00:21:56.900 and then Biden won the election.

00:21:58.540 And then while his cameras

00:22:00.320 were rolling,

00:22:01.360 they imploded

00:22:02.260 with a child molestation scandal.

00:22:06.020 One of their main guys

00:22:07.080 was accused of grooming

00:22:08.820 young men online

00:22:10.500 and sort of threw

00:22:11.380 his Lincoln Project

00:22:12.320 affiliations and so on.

00:22:13.560 And then everybody

00:22:13.940 at the Lincoln Project

00:22:14.480 claimed that they didn't

00:22:15.080 know anything about it.

00:22:16.320 And it got very dicey,

00:22:17.640 very fast.

00:22:18.240 And they went from

00:22:19.380 this organization raising,

00:22:20.420 I think it was like

00:22:20.800 $90 million to this scourge.

00:22:23.220 But they're still alive

00:22:25.220 and claiming to be coming back.

00:22:27.980 Here's just a little bit,

00:22:29.040 Ben, from the promo

00:22:30.520 of this Showtime piece.

00:22:32.440 I'm dying to know

00:22:32.880 what you think about this.

00:22:33.560 Listen.

00:22:35.180 Just trying to peel off

00:22:36.400 about 4%.

00:22:37.440 Once you've got a turd

00:22:40.920 in the punch bowl,

00:22:41.460 it's not punch anymore.

00:22:43.060 It's shit water.

00:22:44.160 People aren't going to tolerate

00:22:45.260 any more of this.

00:22:46.780 We knew that if we buy

00:22:47.920 these Fox News spots,

00:22:49.140 eventually he was going to see them.

00:22:51.440 Weaver and Schmidt

00:22:52.500 all losers.

00:22:54.100 The Lincoln Project

00:22:55.040 has raised $90 million.

00:22:57.440 We have the opportunity

00:22:58.400 to help save the goddamn country.

00:23:00.700 Joseph R. Biden

00:23:02.040 has elected the 46th

00:23:04.020 president of the United States.

00:23:07.540 Did you see the article

00:23:10.980 this morning?

00:23:11.660 It's really upsetting.

00:23:13.680 It's in the New York Times.

00:23:15.500 We're going to have

00:23:16.180 to have a talk about John.

00:23:17.400 I talked to victims

00:23:18.300 as recently as yesterday.

00:23:19.160 The Lincoln Project

00:23:19.700 said it was shots

00:23:20.720 calling him a predator,

00:23:21.800 a liar,

00:23:22.540 and an abuser.

00:23:24.900 I started to get suspicious

00:23:26.340 about where did the money go.

00:23:28.160 More people have resigned.

00:23:29.360 It's falling apart.

00:23:30.220 Oh my God.

00:23:31.460 I literally cannot talk about it.

00:23:33.020 Can't even tell you

00:23:33.680 why I can't talk about it.

00:23:35.060 It's not about ideology.

00:23:36.280 It's about money.

00:23:37.120 It's about power.

00:23:38.340 Why were we trying

00:23:39.180 to cover it up

00:23:39.860 if it didn't matter?

00:23:40.760 I feel like I've become

00:23:41.540 a victim

00:23:42.000 of what I was fighting against.

00:23:43.580 I don't have any good answers

00:23:46.500 except I kind of got

00:23:48.840 into being a gunslinger.

00:23:51.040 The old philosophy

00:23:52.080 was just win.

00:23:53.360 And we got there ugly.

00:23:54.540 I freely admit it.

00:23:55.700 Is making money

00:23:56.600 out of an outrage machine

00:23:58.000 helping democracy

00:23:59.020 or is it hurting it?

00:24:00.380 Nobody cares.

00:24:01.620 They care about

00:24:02.020 what we did in 20

00:24:03.180 and what we're going to do

00:24:04.280 in 22 and 24 and beyond.

00:24:06.600 Here's the key.

00:24:07.300 There's nothing noble

00:24:08.460 about us,

00:24:09.280 but we're useful.

00:24:10.900 Right now,

00:24:11.800 right now,

00:24:12.340 we got to tweet that out.

00:24:13.280 And if you really believe

00:24:14.460 this is a fight for democracy.

00:24:15.880 I see a civil war coming.

00:24:17.360 And if you believe

00:24:17.960 it's an existential fight.

00:24:19.080 This is the year

00:24:19.940 we are going to take back America.

00:24:23.500 You need every useful

00:24:24.860 son of a bitch

00:24:25.400 you can get on your side.

00:24:27.980 Okay, that literally ends

00:24:29.640 with that line

00:24:30.480 and somebody holding a rifle,

00:24:33.480 pointing it out into the sky

00:24:35.220 at some target.

00:24:35.900 I mean, if the Republicans,

00:24:37.340 the actual Republicans,

00:24:38.480 not the fake Republicans

00:24:39.240 at the Lincoln Project,

00:24:40.000 did that,

00:24:40.380 can you imagine the reaction?

00:24:42.020 Like, they're calling

00:24:43.080 for civil war.

00:24:44.200 They're calling for violence

00:24:45.100 in the street.

00:24:46.000 And just the mere fact

00:24:47.020 that this group

00:24:47.600 is being promoted,

00:24:49.400 lauded from the look of it

00:24:50.540 and back,

00:24:51.720 never-endingly back,

00:24:52.980 Ben,

00:24:53.200 what do we make of that?

00:24:54.600 Well, I mean,

00:24:55.000 the strange and respect phenomenon

00:24:56.340 is really a big one.

00:24:57.920 This idea that you were

00:24:59.240 basically a failed

00:25:00.200 Republican operative

00:25:01.600 and then you decided

00:25:02.340 to start some sort of group

00:25:03.720 that the left finds pleasing

00:25:05.320 and so they dump tons

00:25:06.420 of money into you,

00:25:06.980 like $90 million into you

00:25:08.380 and then you humiliate yourselves

00:25:09.800 because we have no idea

00:25:10.520 where the money went

00:25:11.140 and we have no idea

00:25:11.900 what your leadership was doing

00:25:12.900 or what they knew

00:25:13.400 and when they knew it

00:25:14.000 with regard to John Weaver

00:25:14.940 and his alleged grooming scandal

00:25:16.980 and all of the rest of this.

00:25:18.040 And now the fact

00:25:18.620 that they are back

00:25:19.340 and presumably will raise

00:25:20.120 tons of money

00:25:20.760 on the base of this,

00:25:21.660 like you can see the arc

00:25:22.660 of how the left wants

00:25:23.700 to think about

00:25:24.200 the Lincoln Project here.

00:25:25.200 It starts off with,

00:25:26.360 man, these guys are heroes.

00:25:27.320 They took down Trump.

00:25:28.100 First of all,

00:25:28.460 the Lincoln Project

00:25:29.000 did not take down Trump.

00:25:29.960 I mean, let's just be real about this.

00:25:31.240 The Lincoln Project

00:25:31.860 wasted an extraordinary

00:25:32.900 amount of money

00:25:33.480 and paid themselves

00:25:34.020 vast salaries to generate ads

00:25:36.160 that were watched online

00:25:37.120 and drove zero votes.

00:25:38.400 Like the only people

00:25:39.000 who cared about the Lincoln Project

00:25:40.160 were a bunch of Democrats

00:25:41.200 who were going to vote

00:25:41.660 against Trump anyway.

00:25:42.360 There's not a single Republican

00:25:43.280 who watched the Lincoln Project

00:25:44.640 and went, oh man,

00:25:45.320 now I'm going to go vote Biden.

00:25:46.240 That did not happen.

00:25:47.340 Okay, so it starts off

00:25:48.400 with this false narrative

00:25:49.120 and then they go to

00:25:49.940 the actual scandal

00:25:50.760 and then you think

00:25:51.740 that's where it's going to end.

00:25:52.480 Okay, well, this is about

00:25:53.340 how this group

00:25:54.480 was kind of a scam group

00:25:55.500 all along

00:25:56.560 and now they're,

00:25:57.220 and then it's like,

00:25:57.980 no, no, no,

00:25:58.260 but Trump is such a threat

00:25:59.420 that even people

00:26:00.420 who seem to maybe

00:26:01.820 have covered

00:26:02.260 for ephebophilia,

00:26:04.120 maybe people

00:26:04.920 who have scammed people

00:26:05.840 out of millions.

00:26:06.680 Well, we do need them

00:26:07.780 because Trump's just that bad

00:26:08.920 and that is sort of the element.

00:26:11.080 If we're talking about

00:26:11.520 support for Trump,

00:26:12.360 the thing that drives

00:26:13.060 more support for Trump

00:26:13.840 than any other thing

00:26:14.900 is the feeling

00:26:15.700 that his enemies

00:26:16.160 are even worse,

00:26:16.960 is this belief

00:26:17.660 that the people

00:26:18.280 who are out to get him

00:26:19.360 are people who are also

00:26:21.020 out to get you

00:26:21.660 and that they can literally

00:26:22.720 get away with anything.

00:26:23.660 There are no limits

00:26:24.660 to their behavior

00:26:25.200 because they are so focused

00:26:27.180 on stopping

00:26:27.700 the big bad orange man

00:26:28.780 that we need them

00:26:29.860 in our corner.

00:26:30.900 That attitude

00:26:31.760 is going to get Trump

00:26:32.780 reelected to the presidency

00:26:34.740 if that becomes

00:26:35.680 sort of the theme

00:26:36.420 of the left here.

00:26:37.560 And we've seen it

00:26:38.620 in so many departments.

00:26:39.600 I would definitely

00:26:39.900 want to talk to you

00:26:40.320 about what the FBI

00:26:40.980 is doing to this

00:26:42.280 pro-life activist

00:26:43.320 with 20 to 30 people

00:26:44.580 raiding the guy's home

00:26:45.560 for an alleged skirmish

00:26:46.660 he had with a 72-year-old man

00:26:48.120 outside of an abortion clinic.

00:26:49.560 How do 30 FBI agents

00:26:51.200 show up at your house

00:26:52.620 with guns drawn?

00:26:54.340 That's our FBI today

00:26:55.800 and there's another FBI story

00:26:57.240 breaking today.

00:26:57.700 I'm going to pause it here.

00:26:58.840 I'll squeeze in a quick

00:26:59.460 commercial break

00:26:59.900 and then I want to pick it up there

00:27:00.800 with what they're doing

00:27:02.000 and an extraordinary moment

00:27:03.700 from your new colleague

00:27:04.500 Jordan Peterson

00:27:05.420 sitting with Piers Morgan

00:27:07.200 as he becomes the subject

00:27:08.700 of more attacks

00:27:09.740 because he has the nerve

00:27:10.900 to stand up for young men

00:27:12.860 which is a sin.

00:27:13.800 You're not allowed to do that

00:27:14.460 in today's day and age.

00:27:15.480 Ben stays with us

00:27:16.100 for the whole show

00:27:16.700 but first we're bringing you

00:27:18.220 another of our memorable moments

00:27:19.680 from our first two years

00:27:20.500 of shows.

00:27:21.380 This one's a recent clip

00:27:22.320 but it was so funny

00:27:23.300 we had to throw it in the mix.

00:27:25.040 It's from when our pals

00:27:25.960 at the Ruthless podcast

00:27:27.220 were here in June

00:27:28.140 episode 338

00:27:29.900 and a certain

00:27:30.700 Washington Post reporter

00:27:32.200 was blasting her own colleagues

00:27:34.820 on Twitter.

00:27:36.000 Listen.

00:27:38.300 There was a co-worker

00:27:39.560 who put out this

00:27:41.140 string of tweets

00:27:41.820 where he was like

00:27:42.240 okay everyone

00:27:42.840 just like calm down

00:27:43.920 at the Washington Post

00:27:45.000 he's a journalist there

00:27:45.900 he's like everybody

00:27:46.680 just calm down.

00:27:47.900 Jose, right?

00:27:48.660 Jose?

00:27:49.200 Jose Real

00:27:49.700 she quote retweets him

00:27:51.720 and she's like

00:27:52.300 how dare you

00:27:54.200 how dare you

00:27:56.480 tell me to calm down

00:27:58.440 like don't you realize

00:28:00.120 this is just more abuse

00:28:01.760 for me

00:28:02.200 and then she gets

00:28:03.300 the blue checks

00:28:03.840 to come after him

00:28:04.460 he has to delete his account

00:28:05.440 this guy

00:28:05.740 but first he's like

00:28:09.200 Hispanic and gay

00:28:10.940 stop it

00:28:11.700 you can't

00:28:12.940 and that doesn't work

00:28:13.700 and Megan

00:28:14.380 all he's saying is like

00:28:15.300 can we just be kinder

00:28:16.400 to each other

00:28:16.920 like that's the offensive

00:28:18.240 thing he said

00:28:19.320 super offensive

00:28:20.120 and so she's like

00:28:21.000 here's how I'm kicking off

00:28:21.880 Pride Month

00:28:22.300 I'm gonna get

00:28:23.000 the only

00:28:23.720 he says I'm the only

00:28:24.600 like gay Mexican reporter

00:28:26.620 at the Washington Post

00:28:27.680 or something

00:28:28.060 she's like

00:28:28.660 happy Pride Month

00:28:29.720 I'm going after you next

00:28:31.120 and so she sends a mob

00:28:32.600 after him

00:28:33.300 that was amazing

00:28:35.180 what a crazy good story

00:28:36.620 now streaming

00:28:37.560 on Paramount Plus

00:28:38.780 someone is trying

00:28:40.460 to frame us

00:28:41.180 until our names

00:28:42.740 are cleared

00:28:43.380 we're fugitives

00:28:45.080 from Interpol

00:28:45.680 like Bonnie and Clyde

00:28:47.300 with better snacks

00:28:48.360 espionage

00:28:50.040 you still as good

00:28:50.880 a shot as you used

00:28:51.700 to be

00:28:52.180 better

00:28:53.780 is there love language

00:28:55.380 we like to walk

00:28:56.080 that fine line

00:28:56.820 between techno thriller

00:28:57.980 and romantic comedy

00:29:00.300 we make up

00:29:01.340 our own rules

00:29:02.100 NCIS

00:29:03.140 Tony and Ziva

00:29:04.000 now streaming

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00:29:06.100 okay let's talk

00:29:09.680 about what's happening

00:29:10.440 with the FBI

00:29:10.940 because I find this

00:29:11.440 really disturbing

00:29:11.960 so there was

00:29:13.080 a pro-life dad

00:29:14.280 who was recently

00:29:15.300 arrested

00:29:15.980 in a crazy

00:29:17.580 SWAT style

00:29:18.940 raid

00:29:19.520 now his wife

00:29:21.220 and he are

00:29:21.840 to a lesser extent

00:29:23.000 are speaking out

00:29:23.600 his name is Mark Hauk

00:29:24.500 Hauk

00:29:25.280 he's a Catholic

00:29:26.100 pro-life activist

00:29:26.840 from Pennsylvania

00:29:27.380 he was arrested

00:29:28.120 by the FBI

00:29:28.740 last Friday

00:29:29.660 in front of his wife

00:29:30.920 and seven children

00:29:31.940 here's what happened

00:29:33.700 he went

00:29:34.400 outside of an abortion

00:29:35.400 clinic

00:29:35.680 it was a

00:29:36.080 Planned Parenthood

00:29:36.680 clinic

00:29:37.440 in Philadelphia

00:29:38.260 he was on a public

00:29:39.420 sidewalk

00:29:39.740 which you're allowed

00:29:40.220 to be

00:29:40.520 and he had

00:29:42.100 some altercation

00:29:42.960 with a

00:29:43.500 this is back

00:29:43.940 in October

00:29:44.380 of 2021

00:29:45.000 in which he

00:29:46.540 pushed a

00:29:47.520 72 year old

00:29:48.700 man outside

00:29:49.060 the clinic

00:29:49.500 after

00:29:50.620 he was verbally

00:29:53.200 harassing

00:29:53.880 Hauk's

00:29:54.280 12 year old

00:29:55.200 son

00:29:55.420 so this guy

00:29:57.240 Curtis

00:29:58.000 or Mark Hauk

00:29:58.740 got upset

00:29:59.400 that this

00:29:59.820 72 year old

00:30:00.640 man was

00:30:01.140 engaging directly

00:30:01.960 with Mark's

00:30:02.980 12 year old

00:30:04.440 and he

00:30:05.820 defended his

00:30:06.640 son

00:30:06.920 pushed the

00:30:07.640 older man

00:30:08.280 the man

00:30:08.960 fell

00:30:09.480 had a

00:30:10.340 scrape

00:30:10.780 literally

00:30:11.160 just a

00:30:11.640 scrape

00:30:11.960 local law

00:30:12.760 enforcement

00:30:13.020 looked into it

00:30:13.520 and said

00:30:13.620 we're not

00:30:13.840 prosecuting this

00:30:14.460 this is like

00:30:14.900 this is nothing

00:30:15.920 this is a

00:30:16.700 small skirmish

00:30:17.300 it's nothing

00:30:18.000 and moved on

00:30:19.120 then in May

00:30:20.040 Mark Hauk

00:30:21.240 receives a

00:30:21.700 target letter

00:30:22.360 from the DOJ

00:30:23.360 accusing him

00:30:24.500 saying he's

00:30:25.220 being investigated

00:30:25.720 by a grand jury

00:30:26.420 for violating

00:30:27.000 the Freedom of

00:30:27.720 Access Clinic

00:30:28.420 Entrances Act

00:30:29.960 which he did

00:30:30.540 not do

00:30:31.000 he didn't

00:30:31.920 obstruct any

00:30:32.820 entrance

00:30:33.180 just had

00:30:33.600 this skirmish

00:30:34.140 it makes it

00:30:35.320 a federal crime

00:30:35.840 to use force

00:30:36.560 with the intent

00:30:37.160 to injure

00:30:37.640 intimidate

00:30:38.120 and interfere

00:30:38.680 with anyone

00:30:39.220 because that

00:30:39.860 person provides

00:30:40.480 reproductive health

00:30:41.240 care

00:30:41.500 okay that's

00:30:42.480 not again

00:30:43.080 that's not

00:30:43.360 what happened

00:30:43.860 but notwithstanding

00:30:45.260 that they

00:30:45.760 sicked the FBI

00:30:46.580 on him

00:30:47.080 and when they

00:30:47.700 found out

00:30:48.160 that the DOJ

00:30:48.920 was looking

00:30:49.420 at him

00:30:49.780 the grand jury

00:30:50.580 had been

00:30:50.960 convened

00:30:51.540 his lawyer

00:30:52.800 contacted

00:30:54.120 the DOJ

00:30:55.040 and said

00:30:55.780 we will

00:30:56.900 surrender him

00:30:57.880 we can work

00:30:59.600 this out

00:30:59.980 you know

00:31:00.280 we'll bring him

00:31:00.840 right in

00:31:01.120 that's what

00:31:01.380 any lawyer

00:31:01.740 would do

00:31:02.160 and didn't

00:31:03.480 get a response

00:31:04.520 and next thing

00:31:05.080 they know

00:31:05.560 his house

00:31:06.460 gets raided

00:31:06.960 with his

00:31:07.320 seven children

00:31:08.040 watching

00:31:08.480 his wife

00:31:09.580 spoke to

00:31:10.340 Tucker

00:31:10.720 I think

00:31:11.540 last night

00:31:12.120 here it is

00:31:13.020 it was

00:31:14.360 devastating

00:31:15.580 I mean

00:31:16.320 as you can

00:31:17.180 imagine

00:31:17.580 it's

00:31:18.700 I mean

00:31:18.980 it's hard

00:31:19.480 to even

00:31:20.140 express

00:31:20.780 the victimization

00:31:22.700 and you know

00:31:24.140 how traumatized

00:31:25.540 we all are

00:31:26.600 due to

00:31:28.240 this unnecessary

00:31:29.880 thing that

00:31:32.320 happened to us

00:31:32.980 how many

00:31:33.920 FBI agents

00:31:34.620 with guns

00:31:35.420 would you

00:31:35.880 estimate

00:31:36.280 showed up

00:31:36.700 at your

00:31:36.940 house

00:31:37.300 it had

00:31:40.680 to have

00:31:41.560 been

00:31:41.940 20

00:31:42.820 25

00:31:43.380 30

00:31:44.340 I mean

00:31:45.120 we have

00:31:46.160 a large

00:31:46.640 property

00:31:47.640 my entire

00:31:49.240 front

00:31:50.440 yard

00:31:51.460 you could

00:31:52.760 barely

00:31:53.260 see it

00:31:54.000 it was

00:31:54.280 covered

00:31:54.640 with

00:31:55.180 at least

00:31:56.180 15

00:31:57.340 big trucks

00:31:58.860 and cars

00:31:59.580 how are

00:32:00.280 your children

00:32:00.680 doing I have

00:32:01.220 to ask

00:32:01.620 you know

00:32:04.420 it's it's hard

00:32:05.280 to tell

00:32:05.740 the older

00:32:06.340 ones

00:32:06.780 we can

00:32:07.360 talk

00:32:07.740 we can

00:32:08.180 cry

00:32:08.620 we've

00:32:09.760 you know

00:32:10.080 we've had

00:32:10.420 some

00:32:10.620 counseling

00:32:11.040 we have

00:32:12.360 more

00:32:12.660 counseling

00:32:13.100 to do

00:32:13.740 and the

00:32:15.240 little ones

00:32:15.780 they're

00:32:16.200 scared

00:32:16.560 they're

00:32:17.320 scared

00:32:17.620 there's

00:32:17.900 a lot

00:32:18.100 of

00:32:18.200 crying

00:32:18.620 his lawyer

00:32:20.740 been saying

00:32:21.320 this is a

00:32:21.820 gross

00:32:22.080 abuse of

00:32:22.560 power

00:32:22.840 meant to

00:32:23.460 intimidate

00:32:24.560 pro-life

00:32:25.540 and other

00:32:26.260 Americans

00:32:27.020 who are

00:32:27.460 speaking out

00:32:28.400 about these

00:32:28.920 divisive

00:32:29.340 issues

00:32:29.660 I mean

00:32:30.880 it is

00:32:31.120 amazing

00:32:31.400 the amount

00:32:31.740 of resources

00:32:32.280 the DOJ

00:32:32.860 and the FBI

00:32:33.280 will pour

00:32:33.640 into something

00:32:34.100 like this

00:32:35.000 an altercation

00:32:35.860 that had

00:32:36.140 nothing to do

00:32:36.520 with blocking

00:32:36.900 people from

00:32:37.320 actually going

00:32:38.060 into the

00:32:38.380 clinic

00:32:38.540 particularly

00:32:38.860 medical

00:32:39.160 professionals

00:32:39.580 but

00:32:40.360 apparently

00:32:40.820 the FBI

00:32:41.280 and DOJ

00:32:41.740 have very

00:32:42.260 little time

00:32:42.660 to spend

00:32:43.020 on the

00:32:43.460 vast spate

00:32:43.960 of bombings

00:32:44.780 and burnings

00:32:46.120 and defacing

00:32:47.980 of churches

00:32:48.920 pro-life

00:32:49.400 pregnancy

00:32:49.780 centers

00:32:50.260 all of that

00:32:51.260 is just

00:32:51.900 random

00:32:52.460 events

00:32:53.000 that are

00:32:53.300 happening

00:32:53.920 the rather

00:32:55.240 disparate

00:32:55.760 treatment

00:32:56.100 of various

00:32:56.680 crimes

00:32:57.000 is shocking

00:32:57.880 coming from

00:32:58.460 Merrick

00:32:59.020 Garland

00:32:59.420 the DOJ

00:33:00.120 and the

00:33:01.000 FBI

00:33:01.320 and again

00:33:01.800 this is not

00:33:02.360 the fault

00:33:02.740 of

00:33:02.960 we keep

00:33:03.640 saying this

00:33:04.020 and it's

00:33:04.240 true

00:33:04.400 it's not

00:33:04.640 the fault

00:33:04.960 of the

00:33:05.200 low-level

00:33:05.560 FBI

00:33:05.960 agents

00:33:06.440 agencies

00:33:07.360 like the

00:33:07.840 FBI

00:33:07.980 but the

00:33:08.980 higher-ups

00:33:09.860 at these

00:33:10.180 places

00:33:10.520 are extraordinarily

00:33:11.360 political

00:33:11.800 and they know

00:33:12.220 where their

00:33:12.500 bread is

00:33:12.820 buttered

00:33:13.040 and this is

00:33:13.300 one of the

00:33:13.540 big problems

00:33:14.060 in general

00:33:15.060 with the

00:33:15.760 executive branch

00:33:16.700 and the way

00:33:17.240 law enforcement

00:33:17.840 is done

00:33:18.460 is we saw

00:33:19.340 this with

00:33:19.640 Barack Obama

00:33:20.300 and the

00:33:20.500 IRS

00:33:20.880 all that

00:33:21.540 all that

00:33:21.560 has to

00:33:21.840 has to

00:33:21.860 happen

00:33:22.100 is that

00:33:22.360 there's

00:33:22.500 a vague

00:33:22.980 guideline

00:33:23.500 given

00:33:23.820 by the

00:33:24.140 people

00:33:24.300 at the

00:33:24.460 very

00:33:24.620 top

00:33:24.940 and

00:33:25.080 it's

00:33:25.840 who will

00:33:26.500 read me

00:33:26.740 of this

00:33:26.960 meddlesome

00:33:27.300 priest

00:33:27.640 and suddenly

00:33:28.060 you have

00:33:28.300 a bunch

00:33:28.540 of people

00:33:28.840 in the

00:33:29.040 executive

00:33:29.320 branch

00:33:29.620 who are

00:33:29.780 rushing

00:33:29.980 to do

00:33:30.300 that

00:33:30.480 sort

00:33:30.660 of work

00:33:31.100 there

00:33:31.460 doesn't

00:33:31.580 need

00:33:31.700 to be

00:33:31.800 an

00:33:31.920 explicit

00:33:32.180 order

00:33:32.460 to intimidate

00:33:33.020 people

00:33:33.220 who are pro-life

00:33:33.840 all you say

00:33:34.260 is that

00:33:34.560 pro-life

00:33:35.060 people

00:33:35.320 everywhere

00:33:35.740 are engaged

00:33:36.740 in some

00:33:37.140 sort of

00:33:37.600 extremist

00:33:38.220 activity

00:33:38.620 and suddenly

00:33:39.220 you have

00:33:39.460 events like

00:33:39.900 this that

00:33:40.240 suddenly

00:33:40.540 pop up

00:33:41.060 on the

00:33:41.260 radar

00:33:41.460 and it

00:33:42.900 comes

00:33:43.280 just as

00:33:43.640 Miranda

00:33:43.920 Devine

00:33:44.300 over at

00:33:44.900 the New York

00:33:45.140 Post

00:33:45.400 issues

00:33:46.300 an exclusive

00:33:47.120 report

00:33:47.800 today

00:33:48.340 about the

00:33:48.800 FBI

00:33:49.120 another

00:33:50.080 guy

00:33:50.480 he's

00:33:51.340 27

00:33:51.700 years

00:33:51.960 old

00:33:52.240 Stephen

00:33:52.560 Friend

00:33:52.880 is his

00:33:53.200 name

00:33:53.440 he says

00:33:54.180 he's

00:33:54.340 a

00:33:54.460 whistleblower

00:33:55.020 12 year

00:33:55.540 veteran

00:33:55.800 of the

00:33:56.000 FBI

00:33:56.280 and a

00:33:56.720 SWAT

00:33:56.940 team

00:33:57.160 member

00:33:57.500 and he

00:33:58.560 was just

00:33:58.880 suspended

00:33:59.240 last

00:33:59.560 Monday

00:33:59.940 why

00:34:00.380 he was

00:34:01.040 stripped

00:34:01.220 of his

00:34:01.480 gun

00:34:01.660 and his

00:34:01.880 badge

00:34:02.120 escorted

00:34:02.520 out of

00:34:02.860 the FBI

00:34:03.180 field

00:34:03.460 office

00:34:03.660 in

00:34:03.840 Daytona

00:34:04.160 Beach

00:34:04.320 Florida

00:34:04.600 after

00:34:05.240 complaining

00:34:05.660 to his

00:34:10.240 in a

00:34:10.760 SWAT

00:34:11.120 raid

00:34:11.520 that

00:34:12.140 he

00:34:12.300 believed

00:34:12.600 violated

00:34:13.060 FBI

00:34:13.380 policy

00:34:13.880 against

00:34:14.260 a

00:34:14.460 January

00:34:14.800 6th

00:34:15.440 subject

00:34:16.140 who

00:34:16.960 was

00:34:17.120 accused

00:34:17.400 of a

00:34:17.760 misdemeanor

00:34:18.440 of

00:34:18.860 misdemeanor

00:34:19.440 charges

00:34:19.880 he said

00:34:20.840 by the way

00:34:21.200 this guy

00:34:21.520 said

00:34:22.180 he was

00:34:22.600 not a

00:34:22.860 Trump

00:34:23.000 supporter

00:34:23.340 he did

00:34:23.680 not

00:34:23.880 vote

00:34:24.180 for

00:34:24.360 Trump

00:34:24.620 either

00:34:25.240 one

00:34:25.520 of

00:34:25.640 the

00:34:25.740 last

00:34:25.980 elections

00:34:26.580 but

00:34:27.420 he

00:34:27.660 thought

00:34:27.940 this

00:34:28.140 was

00:34:28.360 absurd

00:34:28.940 that

00:34:29.260 they

00:34:29.360 were

00:34:29.460 going

00:34:29.540 to

00:34:29.640 unleash

00:34:29.980 the

00:34:30.140 FBI

00:34:30.400 SWAT

00:34:30.800 team

00:34:31.080 on

00:34:31.280 some

00:34:31.520 January

00:34:32.200 6th

00:34:32.640 defendant

00:34:32.860 who

00:34:33.020 may or

00:34:33.240 may not

00:34:33.400 have

00:34:33.500 had

00:34:40.240 objection

00:34:40.600 and

00:34:41.180 I

00:34:41.300 want

00:34:41.440 to

00:34:41.500 be

00:34:41.600 considered

00:34:41.860 a

00:34:42.020 conscientious

00:34:42.640 objection

00:34:43.560 the

00:34:44.600 complaint

00:34:45.480 that

00:34:46.040 he

00:34:46.160 filed

00:34:46.400 the

00:34:46.520 whistleblower

00:34:46.940 complaint

00:34:47.400 with

00:34:47.900 the

00:34:48.000 DOJ

00:34:48.260 inspector

00:34:48.560 general

00:34:48.900 was

00:34:49.180 obtained

00:34:49.420 by

00:34:49.560 the

00:34:49.640 New

00:34:49.720 York

00:34:49.840 Post

00:34:50.120 he

00:34:50.620 says

00:34:50.960 he

00:34:51.340 was

00:34:51.560 removed

00:34:51.880 from

00:34:52.060 active

00:34:52.320 investigations

00:34:52.880 into

00:34:53.160 child

00:34:53.500 sexual

00:34:53.840 exploitation

00:34:54.400 and

00:34:54.600 human

00:34:54.840 trafficking

00:34:55.380 to

00:34:56.000 work

00:34:56.180 on

00:34:56.320 J6

00:34:56.640 cases

00:34:57.100 sent

00:34:57.440 from

00:34:57.620 DC

00:34:57.980 he

00:34:58.580 was

00:34:58.700 told

00:34:58.860 domestic

00:34:59.280 terrorism

00:34:59.780 was

00:35:00.020 a

00:35:00.160 higher

00:35:00.440 priority

00:35:01.020 than

00:35:01.620 child

00:35:01.940 pornography

00:35:02.480 he

00:35:03.120 said

00:35:03.260 the

00:35:03.380 D.C.

00:35:03.780 field

00:35:03.960 office

00:35:04.220 is

00:35:04.380 manipulating

00:35:05.000 FBI

00:35:05.400 case

00:35:05.720 management

00:35:06.060 protocol

00:35:06.620 farming

00:35:07.280 out

00:35:07.520 J6

00:35:07.880 cases

00:35:08.240 to

00:35:08.420 field

00:35:08.640 offices

00:35:08.940 across

00:35:09.240 the

00:35:09.400 country

00:35:09.600 to

00:35:09.760 create

00:35:09.960 the

00:35:10.080 false

00:35:10.280 impression

00:35:10.720 that

00:35:11.320 right

00:35:11.540 wing

00:35:11.700 domestic

00:35:12.040 violence

00:35:12.580 is

00:35:12.900 a

00:35:13.120 widespread

00:35:13.620 national

00:35:14.120 problem

00:35:14.540 that

00:35:15.060 goes

00:35:15.240 far

00:35:15.460 beyond

00:35:15.700 what

00:35:15.860 happened

00:35:16.120 on

00:35:16.260 J6

00:35:16.760 he

00:35:18.200 was

00:35:18.740 listed

00:35:19.600 as

00:35:20.080 the

00:35:20.280 lead

00:35:20.580 agent

00:35:21.000 in

00:35:21.600 cases

00:35:21.880 he

00:35:22.100 had

00:35:22.280 not

00:35:22.480 investigated

00:35:23.040 and

00:35:23.720 in

00:35:23.860 which

00:35:24.020 his

00:35:24.200 supervisor

00:35:24.600 had

00:35:24.860 not

00:35:25.080 signed

00:35:25.380 off

00:35:25.740 all

00:35:25.960 in

00:35:26.080 violation

00:35:26.380 FBI

00:35:26.720 policy

00:35:27.160 FBI

00:35:27.480 denies

00:35:27.900 it

00:35:28.040 and

00:35:28.160 says

00:35:28.400 he

00:35:28.980 got

00:35:34.220 questionable

00:35:34.920 judgment

00:35:35.420 and

00:35:36.100 unwillingness

00:35:36.880 to comply

00:35:37.260 with

00:35:37.440 rules

00:35:37.760 and

00:35:37.940 regs

00:35:38.380 so

00:35:38.640 this

00:35:38.820 is

00:35:38.940 not

00:35:39.140 and

00:35:39.260 by

00:35:39.360 the

00:35:39.420 way

00:35:39.520 30

00:35:39.800 FBI

00:35:40.140 agents

00:35:40.480 are

00:35:40.580 now

00:35:40.720 standing

00:35:41.000 up

00:35:41.260 for

00:35:41.500 this

00:35:41.660 guy

00:35:41.860 saying

00:35:42.200 he

00:35:42.280 was

00:35:42.360 a

00:35:42.460 model

00:35:42.660 agent

00:35:42.960 so

00:35:43.400 this

00:35:43.500 is

00:35:43.520 a

00:35:43.620 pattern

00:35:43.880 yep

00:35:44.980 I

00:35:45.180 mean

00:35:45.300 again

00:35:45.760 if

00:35:45.940 you

00:35:46.000 look

00:35:46.120 at

00:35:46.160 the

00:35:46.260 history

00:35:46.480 of

00:35:46.600 the

00:35:46.680 FBI

00:35:46.940 the

00:35:47.160 truth

00:35:47.320 is

00:35:47.480 that

00:35:47.580 it's

00:35:47.700 not

00:35:47.820 particularly

00:35:48.140 shocking

00:35:48.580 that

00:35:48.800 the

00:35:48.900 FBI

00:35:49.120 has

00:35:49.240 now

00:35:49.380 been

00:35:49.520 politicized

00:35:50.340 from

00:35:50.540 left

00:35:50.860 you

00:35:51.000 go

00:35:51.180 all

00:35:51.340 the

00:35:51.400 back

00:35:51.600 to

00:35:51.700 the

00:35:51.780 foundations

00:35:52.180 of

00:35:52.420 the

00:35:52.540 FBI

00:35:52.800 in

00:35:52.940 the

00:35:53.020 early

00:35:53.180 20th

00:35:53.540 century

00:35:53.860 you

00:35:54.360 saw

00:35:54.480 the

00:35:54.600 FBI

00:35:54.800 was

00:35:54.960 embroiled

00:35:55.300 in

00:35:55.420 controversies

00:35:56.040 surrounding

00:35:56.500 going

00:35:56.780 after

00:35:57.100 communists

00:35:57.720 in

00:35:57.840 the

00:35:57.920 1920s

00:35:58.660 and

00:35:58.760 communists

00:35:59.080 going

00:35:59.280 in

00:35:59.780 the

00:36:00.060 1950s

00:36:00.820 and

00:36:01.200 now

00:36:01.340 you

00:36:01.480 see

00:36:01.640 that

00:36:01.840 they've

00:36:02.160 been

00:36:02.360 essentially

00:36:02.940 weaponized

00:36:03.700 on

00:36:04.300 behalf

00:36:04.560 of

00:36:04.680 the

00:36:04.780 Biden

00:36:04.960 administration

00:36:05.440 to

00:36:05.680 go

00:36:05.820 after

00:36:06.120 the

00:36:06.700 people

00:36:07.260 who

00:36:07.640 Joe

00:36:08.160 Biden

00:36:08.420 has

00:36:08.780 so

00:36:09.120 subtly

00:36:09.460 termed

00:36:10.200 MAGA

00:36:10.540 Republicans

00:36:11.000 this

00:36:11.600 idea

00:36:12.000 that

00:36:12.320 everyone

00:36:12.720 I

00:36:12.920 disagree

00:36:13.220 with

00:36:13.560 is

00:36:21.400 essentially

00:36:22.380 broadening

00:36:22.900 the

00:36:23.100 scope

00:36:23.440 of

00:36:23.840 J6

00:36:24.260 investigations

00:36:24.880 to

00:36:25.420 now

00:36:25.640 include

00:36:26.100 anybody

00:36:26.500 and

00:36:26.720 everybody

00:36:27.180 who

00:36:27.760 is

00:36:28.080 tangentially

00:36:28.640 involved

00:36:29.180 in

00:36:29.520 MAGA

00:36:30.360 Republican

00:36:30.780 politics

00:36:31.240 and

00:36:31.780 we're

00:36:32.220 getting

00:36:32.360 to

00:36:32.500 very

00:36:32.800 risky

00:36:33.180 territory

00:36:33.640 the

00:36:33.880 FBI

00:36:34.260 runs

00:36:35.080 up

00:36:35.220 almost

00:36:35.820 routinely

00:36:36.260 on

00:36:36.600 serious

00:36:36.940 Fourth

00:36:37.540 and Fifth

00:36:37.820 Amendment

00:36:38.040 violations

00:36:38.620 and

00:36:39.100 once

00:36:39.300 they

00:36:39.420 become

00:36:39.660 weaponized

00:36:40.060 on

00:36:40.220 behalf

00:36:40.500 of

00:36:40.600 a

00:36:40.680 political

00:36:40.940 point

00:36:41.200 of

00:36:41.300 view

00:36:41.500 they

00:36:41.900 rely

00:36:42.160 on

00:36:42.320 the

00:36:42.420 American

00:36:42.700 people's

00:36:43.120 trust

00:36:43.400 once

00:36:43.820 that

00:36:43.980 trust

00:36:44.220 is

00:36:44.380 gone

00:36:44.740 it's

00:36:45.560 not

00:36:45.700 going

00:36:45.800 to

00:36:45.840 be

00:36:45.920 restored

00:36:51.400 louder

00:36:51.640 well

00:36:52.500 here's

00:36:52.780 the

00:36:52.920 thing

00:36:53.200 it

00:36:53.740 turns

00:36:54.000 out

00:36:54.240 that

00:36:54.460 this

00:36:54.740 Mr.

00:36:55.060 Hauk

00:36:55.240 may have

00:36:55.500 been

00:36:55.600 wasting

00:36:55.880 his

00:36:56.100 time

00:36:56.420 outside

00:36:57.000 of

00:36:57.200 that

00:36:57.320 Planned

00:36:57.580 Parenthood

00:36:58.040 objecting

00:36:58.600 to

00:36:58.900 abortions

00:36:59.700 because

00:37:00.200 there's

00:37:01.140 really

00:37:01.340 nothing

00:37:01.560 there

00:37:01.740 but a

00:37:01.960 clump

00:37:02.120 of

00:37:02.280 cells

00:37:02.540 as

00:37:03.140 many

00:37:03.500 on

00:37:03.620 the

00:37:03.720 left

00:37:03.880 will

00:37:04.040 tell

00:37:04.260 you

00:37:04.500 and

00:37:05.140 there's

00:37:05.420 definitely

00:37:05.660 not a

00:37:05.900 heartbeat

00:37:06.160 just ask

00:37:06.900 Stacey

00:37:07.340 Abrams

00:37:07.720 if you

00:37:08.340 go to

00:37:08.580 the

00:37:08.700 doctor

00:37:09.000 and

00:37:09.200 I

00:37:09.300 know

00:37:09.400 you've

00:37:09.600 got

00:37:09.820 three

00:37:10.260 kids

00:37:10.520 now

00:37:10.720 right

00:37:10.940 I'm

00:37:11.500 trying

00:37:11.660 to

00:37:11.760 keep

00:37:11.900 up

00:37:12.120 I've

00:37:13.040 got

00:37:13.140 three

00:37:13.300 kids

00:37:13.500 as

00:37:13.680 well

00:37:13.860 if

00:37:14.760 you

00:37:14.820 go to

00:37:14.980 the

00:37:15.060 doctor

00:37:15.280 and

00:37:15.400 hear

00:37:15.500 that

00:37:15.620 little

00:37:15.780 heartbeat

00:37:16.060 at

00:37:16.280 six

00:37:16.480 weeks

00:37:16.740 it's

00:37:17.020 all

00:37:17.180 fake

00:37:17.440 news

00:37:17.780 and

00:37:18.020 it's

00:37:18.180 not

00:37:18.320 just

00:37:18.500 fake

00:37:18.740 news

00:37:18.960 but

00:37:19.100 it's

00:37:19.260 fake

00:37:19.460 news

00:37:19.800 designed

00:37:20.740 by

00:37:21.180 you

00:37:21.640 Ben

00:37:21.920 the

00:37:22.420 cabal

00:37:23.080 of

00:37:23.360 men

00:37:23.900 who

00:37:24.420 are

00:37:24.560 trying

00:37:24.820 to

00:37:25.000 control

00:37:25.540 women's

00:37:26.620 uteruses

00:37:27.340 and their

00:37:28.220 decisions

00:37:28.580 over their

00:37:29.040 own

00:37:29.300 lives

00:37:29.800 we have

00:37:30.440 this

00:37:30.660 it's

00:37:30.880 on

00:37:31.060 tape

00:37:31.280 here

00:37:31.460 it

00:37:31.560 is

00:37:31.740 Stacey

00:37:32.340 Abrams

00:37:32.800 no

00:37:33.260 such

00:37:33.460 thing

00:37:33.580 as

00:37:41.760 a

00:37:48.400 manufactured

00:37:49.240 sound

00:37:49.720 designed

00:37:50.140 to

00:37:50.300 convince

00:37:50.600 people

00:37:51.020 that

00:37:51.760 men

00:37:52.220 have

00:37:52.440 the

00:37:52.580 right

00:37:52.720 to

00:37:52.840 take

00:37:52.980 control

00:37:53.260 of

00:37:53.400 a

00:37:53.520 woman's

00:37:53.880 body

00:37:54.200 I

00:37:54.700 mean

00:37:54.820 god

00:37:55.040 you

00:37:55.160 guys

00:37:55.320 have

00:37:55.400 been

00:37:55.500 at

00:37:55.640 this

00:37:55.760 for

00:37:55.900 a

00:37:56.060 long

00:37:56.340 time

00:37:56.700 you

00:37:56.880 when

00:37:57.060 did

00:37:57.180 you

00:37:57.240 get

00:37:57.360 together

00:37:57.720 and

00:37:58.420 come

00:37:58.620 up

00:37:58.740 with

00:37:58.840 this

00:37:58.980 plan

00:37:59.260 I

00:38:00.120 gotta

00:38:00.280 tell

00:38:00.460 you

00:38:00.540 the

00:38:00.640 patriarchy

00:38:01.100 is

00:38:01.320 unbelievably

00:38:01.800 clever

00:38:02.140 not

00:38:02.380 only

00:38:02.580 did

00:38:02.720 we

00:38:02.820 come

00:38:02.960 up

00:38:03.060 with

00:38:03.160 ultrasound

00:38:03.520 machines

00:38:04.020 that

00:38:04.200 actually

00:38:04.420 faked

00:38:04.700 the

00:38:04.860 heartbeat

00:38:05.120 it's

00:38:05.620 a

00:38:05.860 laugh

00:38:06.180 track

00:38:06.440 on

00:38:06.620 we

00:38:07.860 actually

00:38:08.100 faked

00:38:08.440 the

00:38:08.600 heartbeat

00:38:08.920 we're

00:38:09.420 so

00:38:09.580 clever

00:38:09.800 that

00:38:09.940 we

00:38:10.040 somehow

00:38:10.280 got

00:38:10.560 you

00:38:10.740 women

00:38:11.000 to

00:38:11.220 accept

00:38:11.540 that

00:38:11.720 if

00:38:11.840 men

00:38:12.060 commit

00:38:12.340 crimes

00:38:12.660 and

00:38:12.780 call

00:38:12.920 themselves

00:38:13.240 women

00:38:13.460 these

00:38:13.620 are

00:38:13.700 now

00:38:13.840 female

00:38:14.080 crimes

00:38:14.420 I

00:38:14.520 mean

00:38:14.600 that's

00:38:14.840 how

00:38:14.940 good

00:38:15.120 we

00:38:15.280 are

00:38:15.460 at

00:38:15.580 this

00:38:15.740 sort

00:38:15.920 of

00:38:16.000 stuff

00:38:16.220 that

00:38:18.340 we

00:38:18.440 can

00:38:18.600 literally

00:38:19.040 compete

00:38:19.760 for

00:38:19.940 one

00:38:20.140 day

00:38:20.280 as

00:38:20.400 women

00:38:20.620 and

00:38:20.740 become

00:38:20.900 the

00:38:21.060 best

00:38:21.260 women

00:38:21.500 at

00:38:21.820 everything

00:38:22.100 so

00:38:22.560 it's

00:38:22.920 not

00:38:23.040 particularly

00:38:23.320 shocking

00:38:23.720 that

00:38:23.900 we're

00:38:24.140 clever

00:38:24.380 enough

00:38:24.600 to come

00:38:24.800 up

00:38:24.900 with

00:38:24.980 machines

00:38:36.620 she

00:38:36.860 suggests

00:38:37.260 that

00:38:37.420 the

00:38:37.560 ultrasound

00:38:37.860 is

00:38:38.100 capable

00:38:38.420 of

00:38:39.020 essentially

00:38:39.420 faking

00:38:39.780 a sound

00:38:40.100 for

00:38:40.220 electrical

00:38:40.540 activity

00:38:40.900 that's

00:38:41.100 not

00:38:41.260 what

00:38:41.480 an

00:38:41.640 ultrasound

00:38:41.980 does

00:38:42.380 as

00:38:42.620 the

00:38:42.760 term

00:38:43.000 ultrasound

00:38:43.580 might

00:38:43.940 convey

00:38:44.340 it's

00:38:44.800 actually

00:38:45.020 using

00:38:45.300 sonar

00:38:45.660 and the

00:38:46.140 basic

00:38:46.460 idea

00:38:46.680 of an

00:38:46.880 ultrasound

00:38:47.140 is

00:38:47.380 that

00:38:47.500 it

00:38:47.620 is

00:38:47.840 measuring

00:38:48.220 a

00:38:48.460 sound

00:38:48.700 that

00:38:48.860 is

00:38:48.980 coming

00:38:49.200 from

00:38:49.780 the

00:38:50.040 fetus

00:38:50.320 the

00:38:50.960 notion

00:38:51.600 that

00:38:51.880 there

00:38:52.180 is

00:38:52.440 no

00:38:52.800 heartbeat

00:38:53.120 because

00:38:53.420 the

00:38:53.600 heart

00:38:53.780 has

00:38:53.960 not

00:38:54.080 fully

00:38:54.240 developed

00:38:54.520 what

00:38:54.700 you're

00:38:54.840 hearing

00:38:55.180 when

00:38:55.740 you hear

00:38:56.120 the

00:38:56.440 baby's

00:38:56.760 heartbeat

00:38:57.060 at six

00:38:57.440 weeks

00:38:57.640 is

00:38:58.060 not

00:38:58.240 a

00:38:58.400 heart

00:38:58.560 developed

00:38:58.880 in

00:38:59.000 the

00:38:59.080 way

00:38:59.200 that

00:38:59.380 your

00:38:59.620 heart

00:38:59.920 or

00:39:00.200 my

00:39:00.540 heart

00:39:00.760 is

00:39:00.960 currently

00:39:01.300 as

00:39:01.660 an

00:39:01.760 adult

00:39:02.000 you're

00:39:02.200 not

00:39:02.340 hearing

00:39:02.640 the

00:39:03.280 valves

00:39:03.640 opening

00:39:03.900 and

00:39:04.060 closing

00:39:04.320 for

00:39:04.540 example

00:39:04.840 but

00:39:05.040 you

00:39:05.160 are

00:39:05.360 in

00:39:05.500 fact

00:39:05.680 hearing

00:39:06.000 fetal

00:39:06.600 cardiac

00:39:07.000 activity

00:39:07.440 which

00:39:07.640 is

00:39:07.740 the

00:39:07.840 definition

00:39:08.200 of

00:39:08.720 a

00:39:09.040 heartbeat

00:39:09.380 in

00:39:10.120 the

00:39:10.240 same

00:39:10.400 way

00:39:10.620 that

00:39:10.840 if

00:39:11.240 you

00:39:11.460 said

00:39:11.680 a

00:39:12.020 fetus

00:39:12.280 has

00:39:12.400 brain

00:39:12.640 activity

00:39:12.960 but

00:39:13.140 it's

00:39:13.240 not

00:39:13.460 the

00:39:13.760 brain

00:39:13.940 activity

00:39:14.220 you'd

00:39:14.520 have

00:39:14.620 as

00:39:14.720 a

00:39:14.820 20

00:39:15.000 year

00:39:27.060 of

00:39:27.980 women

00:39:28.560 again

00:39:29.180 we're

00:39:29.720 amazing

00:39:30.060 at

00:39:30.200 this

00:39:30.360 I

00:39:30.480 gotta

00:39:30.600 say

00:39:30.880 I

00:39:31.480 thought

00:39:31.640 we

00:39:31.760 were

00:39:31.860 supposed

00:39:32.000 to

00:39:32.120 be

00:39:32.220 against

00:39:32.480 conspiracy

00:39:32.880 theories

00:39:33.300 we

00:39:33.500 weren't

00:39:33.720 supposed

00:39:33.920 to

00:39:34.100 like

00:39:34.340 you

00:39:34.840 and

00:39:35.440 we're

00:39:35.560 supposed

00:39:35.760 to

00:39:35.860 be

00:39:35.960 called

00:39:36.140 the

00:39:36.240 Democrats

00:39:37.280 are

00:39:37.520 supposed

00:39:37.700 to

00:39:37.800 be

00:39:37.880 this

00:39:38.060 party

00:39:38.480 that

00:39:39.000 brings

00:39:39.200 in

00:39:39.380 people

00:39:39.660 of

00:39:39.860 reason

00:39:40.160 to

00:39:40.380 say

00:39:40.640 no

00:39:40.920 we

00:39:41.120 reject

00:39:41.540 crazy

00:39:42.260 theories

00:39:42.580 about

00:39:42.920 pedophile

00:39:43.660 rings

00:39:43.920 being

00:39:44.160 run

00:39:44.420 out

00:39:44.540 of

00:39:44.640 pizza

00:39:44.820 parlors

00:39:45.200 in

00:39:45.320 the

00:39:45.420 D.C.

00:39:45.740 area

00:39:45.880 okay

00:39:46.200 great

00:39:46.580 most

00:39:46.840 of

00:39:46.940 us

00:39:47.020 normal

00:39:47.260 people

00:39:47.520 Democrats

00:39:47.920 are

00:39:48.040 not

00:39:48.220 say

00:39:48.640 yeah

00:39:48.840 that's

00:39:49.080 bullshit

00:39:49.320 but

00:39:49.980 what

00:39:50.380 this

00:39:50.600 is

00:39:50.760 lunacy

00:39:51.180 and

00:39:51.660 nobody

00:39:51.920 on her

00:39:52.280 side

00:39:52.500 is

00:39:52.640 calling

00:39:52.860 her

00:39:53.020 out

00:39:53.220 on

00:39:53.360 this

00:39:53.640 and

00:39:54.100 by

00:39:54.280 the

00:39:54.400 way

00:39:54.600 it's

00:39:54.880 not

00:39:55.120 just

00:39:55.320 Dacey

00:39:55.600 Abrams

00:39:55.900 because

00:39:56.060 no

00:39:56.280 sooner

00:39:56.500 does

00:39:56.700 she

00:39:56.820 say

00:39:57.000 that

00:39:57.300 than

00:39:57.500 Planned

00:39:57.920 Parenthood

00:39:58.420 which

00:39:59.020 for

00:39:59.520 years

00:40:00.300 was

00:40:01.120 defining

00:40:01.720 on

00:40:02.640 its

00:40:02.780 website

00:40:03.160 this

00:40:03.760 this

00:40:04.240 whole

00:40:04.400 situation

00:40:04.860 as

00:40:05.040 follows

00:40:05.320 at

00:40:05.560 five

00:40:05.940 to

00:40:06.120 six

00:40:06.340 weeks

00:40:06.560 of

00:40:06.720 pregnancy

00:40:07.080 a

00:40:07.940 very

00:40:08.300 basic

00:40:08.820 beating

00:40:09.220 heart

00:40:09.760 and

00:40:10.540 circulatory

00:40:11.340 system

00:40:11.900 develops

00:40:12.760 a

00:40:13.420 very

00:40:13.760 basic

00:40:14.240 beating

00:40:14.660 heart

00:40:15.060 now

00:40:15.660 they've

00:40:15.960 changed

00:40:16.260 it

00:40:16.420 to

00:40:16.620 it

00:40:17.340 sounds

00:40:17.840 like

00:40:18.080 a

00:40:18.240 heartbeat

00:40:18.600 on

00:40:18.920 an

00:40:19.100 ultrasound

00:40:19.500 but

00:40:20.220 it's

00:40:20.400 not

00:40:20.580 a

00:40:20.720 fully

00:40:20.920 formed

00:40:21.240 heart

00:40:21.500 be

00:40:21.960 aware

00:40:22.300 be

00:40:22.880 aware

00:40:23.240 okay

00:40:24.260 that

00:40:24.440 makes

00:40:24.640 me

00:40:24.760 feel

00:40:24.960 a lot

00:40:25.220 better

00:40:25.500 okay

00:40:25.860 I

00:40:26.040 guess

00:40:26.360 that's

00:40:26.600 going

00:40:26.700 to

00:40:26.760 give

00:40:26.840 us

00:40:26.940 the

00:40:27.060 permission

00:40:27.300 we

00:40:27.440 need

00:40:27.540 anyway

00:40:27.780 it's

00:40:28.100 just

00:40:28.320 it

00:40:28.840 shows

00:40:29.060 you

00:40:29.160 how

00:40:29.260 the

00:40:29.380 left

00:40:29.520 works

00:40:29.740 together

00:40:30.040 right

00:40:30.280 I

00:40:30.380 mean

00:40:30.500 she

00:40:30.820 says

00:40:31.100 it

00:40:31.280 Planned

00:40:31.700 Parenthood

00:40:31.940 goes

00:40:40.540 their

00:40:40.660 particular

00:40:41.000 definition

00:40:41.620 you

00:40:41.960 see

00:40:42.080 this

00:40:42.260 over

00:40:42.480 and

00:40:42.600 over

00:40:42.800 is

00:40:42.940 that

00:40:43.020 the

00:40:43.140 left

00:40:43.300 will

00:40:43.420 make

00:40:43.580 some

00:40:43.720 sort

00:40:43.880 of

00:40:44.220 weird

00:40:44.580 linguistic

00:40:45.080 or

00:40:45.580 illogical

00:40:46.340 move

00:40:46.540 and then

00:40:47.120 really

00:40:48.260 really

00:40:48.720 quickly

00:40:49.040 the

00:40:49.240 entire

00:40:49.440 culture

00:40:49.740 will

00:40:49.900 just

00:40:50.080 snap

00:40:50.400 into

00:40:50.680 place

00:40:50.980 and

00:40:51.440 repeat

00:40:51.720 all

00:40:52.060 of

00:40:52.180 this

00:40:52.340 you

00:40:52.460 saw

00:40:52.620 this

00:40:52.840 for

00:40:53.120 example

00:40:53.440 in

00:40:53.620 Maisie

00:40:53.880 Hirono

00:40:54.360 suggested

00:40:54.960 that

00:40:55.140 Amy

00:40:55.360 Coney

00:40:55.640 Barrett

00:40:55.980 was

00:40:56.260 some

00:40:56.680 sort

00:40:56.980 of

00:40:57.240 horrible

00:40:57.780 homophobe

00:40:58.300 for using

00:40:58.740 the

00:40:59.200 term

00:40:59.460 sexual

00:41:00.200 predilection

00:41:01.740 or

00:41:02.020 whatever

00:41:02.460 term

00:41:02.800 she

00:41:02.960 used

00:41:03.180 the

00:41:03.600 idea

00:41:03.920 there

00:41:04.140 was

00:41:04.340 that

00:41:04.680 you're

00:41:05.260 not

00:41:05.400 allowed

00:41:05.600 sexual

00:41:05.900 preference

00:41:06.280 I think

00:41:06.480 was the

00:41:06.680 term

00:41:06.820 she

00:41:06.940 used

00:41:07.040 they

00:41:07.140 redefined

00:41:07.560 that

00:41:07.720 to

00:41:07.820 now

00:41:07.940 mean

00:41:08.120 homophobic

00:41:08.620 because

00:41:08.860 Maisie

00:41:09.140 Hirono

00:41:09.520 who's

00:41:09.700 an

00:41:09.800 idiot

00:41:10.000 suggested

00:41:10.660 it

00:41:10.780 was

00:41:10.840 homophobic

00:41:11.240 to use

00:41:11.540 a term

00:41:11.780 that had

00:41:11.960 been

00:41:12.080 used

00:41:12.360 in

00:41:12.500 common

00:41:12.720 parlance

00:41:13.120 in

00:41:13.220 the

00:41:13.280 United

00:41:13.460 States

00:41:13.700 for

00:41:13.840 several

00:41:14.040 decades

00:41:14.360 the

00:41:15.080 shift

00:41:15.660 in

00:41:15.920 time

00:41:16.320 is

00:41:16.800 pretty

00:41:17.020 astonishing

00:41:17.360 to watch

00:41:17.760 from the

00:41:17.960 left

00:41:18.060 I

00:41:33.180 of

00:41:33.360 the

00:41:33.480 elected

00:41:33.800 universe

00:41:34.320 you

00:41:34.460 remember

00:41:34.660 in

00:41:34.820 Star

00:41:35.020 Trek

00:41:35.480 that

00:41:35.680 she

00:41:35.820 is

00:41:35.960 still

00:41:36.160 getting

00:41:36.360 her

00:41:36.540 ass

00:41:36.800 kicked

00:41:37.020 by

00:41:37.260 Brian

00:41:37.720 Kemp

00:41:37.940 a

00:41:38.060 second

00:41:38.240 time

00:41:38.520 undoubtedly

00:41:39.180 she

00:41:39.480 will

00:41:39.600 accept

00:41:39.800 the

00:41:39.980 results

00:41:40.340 of

00:41:40.440 the

00:41:40.540 election

00:41:40.860 this

00:41:41.320 time

00:41:41.520 the way

00:41:41.760 she

00:41:41.840 did

00:41:41.940 not

00:41:42.080 last

00:41:42.340 time

00:41:42.580 yeah

00:41:43.160 exactly

00:41:43.660 right

00:41:43.960 well it

00:41:44.420 is

00:41:44.540 interesting

00:41:44.860 though

00:41:45.020 I

00:41:45.120 like

00:41:45.440 to

00:41:45.560 see

00:41:45.880 the

00:41:47.300 debates

00:41:47.600 about

00:41:47.800 language

00:41:48.160 thrown

00:41:49.040 back

00:41:49.400 on the

00:41:49.720 people

00:41:49.880 who are

00:41:50.080 forcing

00:41:50.340 us

00:41:50.520 to

00:41:50.620 have

00:41:50.800 them

00:41:50.960 you

00:41:51.120 know

00:41:51.180 this

00:41:51.420 was

00:41:51.560 an

00:41:51.660 embarrassment

00:41:52.020 because

00:41:53.060 you

00:41:53.240 had

00:41:53.380 all

00:41:53.600 these

00:41:53.780 doctors

00:41:54.100 coming

00:41:54.360 out

00:41:54.500 online

00:41:54.760 saying

00:41:55.020 you're

00:41:55.560 absurd

00:41:55.940 you're

00:41:56.180 an

00:41:56.260 absurd

00:41:56.580 person

00:41:56.940 you

00:41:57.120 actually

00:41:57.380 don't

00:41:57.640 understand

00:41:57.980 anything

00:41:58.340 you're

00:41:58.540 saying

00:41:58.800 about

00:41:59.080 ultrasounds

00:42:00.220 or cardiac

00:42:00.680 activity

00:42:01.140 I mean

00:42:01.640 here's

00:42:01.960 just one

00:42:02.360 that I

00:42:02.620 pulled

00:42:02.800 this is

00:42:03.200 a

00:42:03.460 pretty

00:42:03.680 Shanker

00:42:04.480 who wrote

00:42:04.820 the cardiac

00:42:05.500 muscles

00:42:05.900 in

00:42:06.300 that

00:42:07.580 I'm

00:42:08.100 trying to

00:42:08.300 read my

00:42:08.520 own

00:42:08.740 writing

00:42:09.720 that

00:42:10.420 they

00:42:10.860 begin

00:42:11.700 to

00:42:12.280 I can't

00:42:13.040 read

00:42:13.160 I said

00:42:13.380 they're

00:42:13.760 moving

00:42:13.960 inward

00:42:14.240 and they're

00:42:14.440 outward

00:42:14.640 and that's

00:42:15.020 how you

00:42:15.240 define a

00:42:15.660 beat

00:42:15.940 that's

00:42:16.320 what he

00:42:16.460 basically

00:42:16.720 you had

00:42:18.900 many doctors

00:42:19.700 saying you

00:42:19.980 don't know

00:42:20.140 what you're

00:42:20.320 talking about

00:42:20.720 and now

00:42:21.380 you have

00:42:21.940 a situation

00:42:22.440 in Virginia

00:42:22.940 that's not

00:42:23.420 totally

00:42:23.840 dissimilar

00:42:25.180 where you

00:42:25.720 had

00:42:26.180 under the

00:42:26.640 last

00:42:26.960 democratic

00:42:27.760 governor

00:42:28.260 governor

00:42:28.800 blackface

00:42:29.300 Ralph

00:42:29.620 Northram

00:42:30.300 who

00:42:31.520 came out

00:42:32.180 and said

00:42:32.800 we're

00:42:33.440 going to

00:42:33.620 let

00:42:33.900 schools

00:42:34.500 not tell

00:42:35.060 their

00:42:35.200 parents

00:42:35.540 if

00:42:36.380 kids

00:42:36.900 turn out

00:42:37.160 to be

00:42:37.340 trans

00:42:37.620 so kids

00:42:38.400 can come

00:42:38.700 in

00:42:38.960 they can

00:42:39.300 say I'm

00:42:39.500 no longer

00:42:39.760 a boy

00:42:40.080 I'm

00:42:40.260 no longer

00:42:40.540 a girl

00:42:40.820 don't

00:42:41.080 tell my

00:42:41.320 parents

00:42:41.640 I want

00:42:42.060 to go

00:42:42.200 by different

00:42:42.520 pronouns

00:42:42.840 and we

00:42:43.460 want it

00:42:43.700 written in

00:42:44.140 the teachers

00:42:45.040 can't say

00:42:45.540 anything

00:42:45.800 to the

00:42:46.020 parents

00:42:46.280 now

00:42:47.040 the new

00:42:48.220 governor

00:42:48.480 young

00:42:48.780 the

00:42:49.040 Republican

00:42:49.400 has said

00:42:49.780 I'm

00:42:49.940 going to

00:42:50.100 reverse

00:42:50.340 all that

00:42:50.680 the students

00:42:51.680 there

00:42:51.960 had this

00:42:52.380 massive

00:42:52.680 walkout

00:42:53.320 like a

00:42:53.640 thousand

00:42:53.880 students

00:42:54.260 walked out

00:42:54.860 to protest

00:42:55.620 his

00:42:55.840 bigotry

00:42:56.460 Glenn

00:42:56.880 young

00:42:57.040 can's

00:42:57.280 bigotry

00:42:57.800 and truly

00:42:58.680 all he's

00:42:59.440 saying

00:42:59.800 all they're

00:43:00.700 saying

00:43:00.980 with the

00:43:01.260 new

00:43:01.380 reversal

00:43:01.840 of the

00:43:02.240 old

00:43:02.460 laws

00:43:02.760 is

00:43:03.020 the

00:43:03.580 parents

00:43:03.800 need

00:43:03.920 to be

00:43:04.060 involved

00:43:04.300 that's

00:43:04.780 it

00:43:04.900 they're

00:43:05.020 not

00:43:05.120 saying

00:43:05.260 can't

00:43:05.500 do

00:43:05.620 it

00:43:05.920 saying

00:43:06.120 we

00:43:06.220 just

00:43:06.340 need

00:43:06.480 to

00:43:06.540 hear

00:43:06.640 from

00:43:06.800 your

00:43:06.940 parents

00:43:07.280 and

00:43:08.140 again

00:43:08.980 it's

00:43:09.460 bigot

00:43:09.760 bigot

00:43:10.020 bigot

00:43:10.380 yeah

00:43:11.620 I mean

00:43:11.840 this is

00:43:12.740 truly

00:43:13.380 an amazing

00:43:13.960 thing

00:43:14.320 what

00:43:14.540 young

00:43:14.740 can

00:43:14.860 said

00:43:15.080 is

00:43:15.360 if

00:43:16.020 you

00:43:16.100 oppose

00:43:16.440 what

00:43:16.800 I'm

00:43:16.980 attempting

00:43:17.220 to do

00:43:17.460 here

00:43:17.620 essentially

00:43:17.900 you want

00:43:18.100 to cut

00:43:18.280 parents

00:43:18.520 out of

00:43:18.720 the loop

00:43:18.860 but that

00:43:19.140 is

00:43:19.480 precisely

00:43:19.940 what

00:43:20.120 the

00:43:20.220 left

00:43:20.360 would

00:43:20.520 love

00:43:20.840 to

00:43:20.960 do

00:43:21.060 they

00:43:21.200 want

00:43:21.320 to

00:43:21.400 socially

00:43:21.700 transition

00:43:22.140 your

00:43:22.360 kid

00:43:22.600 at

00:43:22.900 school

00:43:23.140 without

00:43:23.360 informing

00:43:23.780 you

00:43:24.000 of

00:43:24.560 what

00:43:24.920 is

00:43:25.160 going

00:43:25.360 on

00:43:25.640 teachers

00:43:26.080 who

00:43:26.280 have

00:43:26.380 known

00:43:26.600 your

00:43:26.820 kid

00:43:27.040 for

00:43:27.220 approximately

00:43:27.780 37

00:43:28.300 seconds

00:43:28.780 and

00:43:29.420 they

00:43:29.540 are

00:43:29.660 going

00:43:29.840 to

00:43:30.080 now

00:43:30.420 dictate

00:43:30.760 to

00:43:30.980 you

00:43:31.180 as

00:43:31.360 a

00:43:31.460 parent

00:43:31.680 exactly

00:43:32.100 how

00:43:32.600 you

00:43:32.720 should

00:43:32.840 raise

00:43:33.160 your

00:43:33.420 child

00:43:33.700 especially

00:43:34.000 when

00:43:34.160 your

00:43:34.280 child

00:43:34.440 is

00:43:34.560 going

00:43:34.720 through

00:43:34.900 something

00:43:35.220 as

00:43:35.460 troubling

00:43:35.760 and

00:43:35.960 difficult

00:43:36.260 as

00:43:37.060 gender

00:43:37.460 confusion

00:43:38.120 now

00:43:38.640 they

00:43:38.780 are

00:43:38.880 going

00:43:39.060 to

00:43:39.200 simply

00:43:39.460 mainstream

00:43:40.060 that

00:43:40.400 gender

00:43:40.680 confusion

00:43:41.300 they're

00:43:41.560 going

00:43:41.720 to

00:43:41.880 give

00:43:42.140 people

00:43:42.500 essentially

00:43:43.140 the

00:43:43.840 dint

00:43:44.380 of

00:43:44.540 heroism

00:43:45.060 for

00:43:45.560 engaging

00:43:46.020 in

00:43:46.340 this

00:43:46.500 sort

00:43:46.660 of

00:43:46.740 behavior

00:43:47.040 and

00:43:47.320 they're

00:43:47.440 going

00:43:47.540 to

00:43:47.600 say

00:43:47.740 that

00:43:47.880 you

00:43:48.080 are

00:43:48.280 right

00:43:48.460 your

00:43:48.620 parents

00:43:48.920 are

00:43:49.080 wrong

00:43:49.360 we

00:43:49.500 can't

00:43:49.640 even

00:43:49.760 tell

00:43:49.920 your

00:43:50.040 parents

00:43:50.220 might

00:43:50.780 be

00:43:50.880 abusive

00:43:51.220 right

00:43:51.420 so

00:43:51.500 now

00:43:51.600 you've

00:43:51.740 also

00:43:51.900 planted

00:43:52.200 this

00:43:52.800 thought

00:43:53.060 in

00:43:53.240 the

00:43:53.380 head

00:43:53.860 of

00:43:53.980 kids

00:43:54.160 that

00:43:54.260 your

00:43:54.360 parents

00:43:54.620 actually

00:43:54.900 hate

00:43:55.160 you

00:43:55.360 and

00:43:55.740 are

00:43:55.840 abusive

00:43:56.240 if

00:43:56.560 they

00:43:56.680 want

00:43:57.220 you

00:43:57.360 to

00:43:57.580 engage

00:43:57.920 in

00:43:58.040 watchful

00:43:58.420 waiting

00:43:58.720 or

00:43:58.960 if

00:43:59.080 they

00:43:59.160 say

00:43:59.340 well

00:43:59.680 you

00:43:59.780 know

00:43:59.880 what

00:44:00.100 I'm

00:44:00.360 sorry

00:44:00.500 that

00:44:00.620 you're

00:44:00.720 having

00:44:00.960 this

00:44:01.120 sort

00:44:01.260 of

00:44:01.320 emotional

00:44:01.640 trouble

00:44:01.900 but

00:44:02.060 that

00:44:02.180 does

00:44:02.300 not

00:44:02.440 mean

00:44:02.620 that

00:44:02.760 you

00:44:02.880 move

00:44:03.580 on

00:44:03.800 toward

00:44:04.080 measures

00:44:04.440 that

00:44:04.580 are

00:44:04.680 likely

00:44:04.920 to

00:44:05.200 sterilize

00:44:05.740 you

00:44:05.840 and

00:44:05.940 mutilate

00:44:06.180 your

00:44:06.360 body

00:44:06.620 the

00:44:07.380 fact

00:44:07.720 that

00:44:07.820 the

00:44:07.940 left

00:44:08.040 is

00:44:08.180 pushing

00:44:08.420 this

00:44:08.580 so

00:44:08.760 hard

00:44:08.980 is

00:44:09.160 truly

00:44:09.520 an

00:44:09.780 astonishing

00:44:10.260 thing

00:44:10.820 and

00:44:10.920 there's

00:44:11.080 no

00:44:11.220 way

00:44:11.320 to

00:44:11.420 see

00:44:11.540 it

00:44:11.660 other

00:44:11.860 than

00:44:12.080 as

00:44:12.220 an

00:44:12.320 attack

00:44:12.580 on

00:44:12.740 parenthood

00:44:13.180 as

00:44:13.540 an

00:44:13.660 attack

00:44:13.880 on

00:44:15.540 traditional

00:44:16.060 roles

00:44:16.560 all around

00:44:17.760 the

00:44:17.900 world

00:44:18.080 there's

00:44:18.460 a

00:44:18.780 backlash

00:44:20.940 to

00:44:22.480 the

00:44:22.600 radical

00:44:23.080 social

00:44:23.420 policy

00:44:23.820 that

00:44:23.980 the

00:44:24.100 left

00:44:24.260 has

00:44:24.380 promulgated

00:44:24.920 here

00:44:25.140 you're

00:44:25.300 seeing

00:44:25.460 it

00:44:25.580 everywhere

00:44:25.780 from

00:44:25.980 Italy

00:44:26.340 to

00:44:26.700 Hungary

00:44:27.100 to

00:44:27.460 Poland

00:44:27.860 to

00:44:28.140 Sweden

00:44:28.460 and

00:44:29.080 in

00:44:29.620 the

00:44:29.720 United

00:44:29.900 States

00:44:30.240 there

00:44:30.580 is

00:44:30.880 no

00:44:31.160 immunity

00:44:32.020 to

00:44:32.580 the

00:44:32.720 body

00:44:33.020 politic

00:44:33.480 to

00:44:34.240 moving

00:44:34.720 to

00:44:34.900 the

00:44:35.000 right

00:44:35.140 on

00:44:35.280 this

00:44:35.420 sort

00:44:35.600 of

00:44:35.680 stuff

00:44:35.880 there's

00:44:36.100 a

00:44:36.180 reason

00:44:36.340 Glenn

00:44:36.620 Youngkin

00:44:36.880 is

00:44:37.040 now

00:44:37.160 the

00:44:37.280 governor

00:44:37.460 of

00:44:37.600 Virginia

00:44:37.900 so

00:44:38.400 people

00:44:38.840 in

00:44:39.140 the

00:44:39.300 gleaming

00:44:40.440 ivory

00:44:40.900 halls

00:44:41.300 of

00:44:41.460 academia

00:44:41.860 or

00:44:42.320 people

00:44:42.540 in

00:44:42.680 the

00:44:42.760 White

00:44:42.920 House

00:44:43.100 may

00:44:43.280 think

00:44:43.460 this

00:44:43.720 amounts

00:44:44.100 to

00:44:44.260 good

00:44:44.460 policy

00:44:44.900 but

00:44:45.420 there

00:44:45.680 are

00:44:45.760 few

00:44:46.160 people

00:44:46.420 in

00:44:46.540 the

00:44:46.600 United

00:44:46.780 States

00:44:47.000 who

00:44:47.120 agree

00:44:47.620 that

00:44:56.700 quietly

00:44:57.040 changes

00:44:57.400 the

00:44:57.560 policies

00:44:57.900 to

00:44:58.140 say

00:44:58.380 you

00:44:58.940 don't

00:44:59.060 have

00:44:59.180 to

00:44:59.280 tell

00:44:59.500 the

00:44:59.760 parents

00:44:59.960 don't

00:45:00.160 involve

00:45:00.380 the

00:45:00.500 parents

00:45:00.720 if

00:45:00.840 the

00:45:00.960 students

00:45:01.160 don't

00:45:01.380 want

00:45:01.520 the

00:45:01.640 parents

00:45:01.840 involved

00:45:02.200 people

00:45:02.780 that

00:45:03.000 doesn't

00:45:03.260 make

00:45:03.460 headlines

00:45:03.840 because

00:45:04.080 the

00:45:04.280 left

00:45:04.460 likes

00:45:04.760 it

00:45:04.900 they

00:45:05.100 just

00:45:05.260 keep

00:45:05.420 it

00:45:05.520 quiet

00:45:05.760 it

00:45:05.960 happens

00:45:06.320 you

00:45:06.740 have

00:45:06.960 to

00:45:07.100 find

00:45:07.380 out

00:45:07.520 the

00:45:07.680 hard

00:45:08.000 way

00:45:08.160 as

00:45:08.300 a

00:45:08.400 parent

00:45:08.640 that

00:45:08.820 this

00:45:09.000 has

00:45:09.160 gone

00:45:09.700 on

00:45:10.040 I

00:45:10.480 know

00:45:10.920 this

00:45:11.240 because

00:45:11.480 there's

00:45:11.680 a

00:45:11.800 family

00:45:12.080 in

00:45:12.320 New

00:45:12.480 York

00:45:12.780 that

00:45:13.400 was

00:45:13.540 at

00:45:13.700 Trinity

00:45:14.120 school

00:45:14.520 which

00:45:14.760 has

00:45:14.880 been

00:45:14.980 all

00:45:15.120 over

00:45:15.240 the

00:45:15.340 news

00:45:15.500 lately

00:45:15.740 because

00:45:16.000 there

00:45:16.180 was

00:45:16.280 that

00:45:16.420 woman

00:45:16.680 caught

00:45:16.940 on

00:45:17.100 tape

00:45:17.260 by

00:45:17.480 one

00:45:17.820 of

00:45:17.960 James

00:45:18.160 O'Keefe's

00:45:18.640 operatives

00:45:19.300 saying

00:45:19.840 she wanted

00:45:20.180 to get

00:45:20.360 a serial

00:45:20.820 killer

00:45:21.140 to come

00:45:21.780 in

00:45:21.980 and

00:45:22.300 kill

00:45:22.860 the

00:45:23.240 white

00:45:23.500 boys

00:45:23.980 didn't

00:45:24.480 much

00:45:24.660 care

00:45:24.840 if

00:45:24.940 they

00:45:25.000 were

00:45:25.100 conservative

00:45:25.480 or

00:45:25.700 liberal

00:45:25.920 just

00:45:26.120 white

00:45:26.400 boys

00:45:26.680 she

00:45:27.000 would

00:45:27.140 love

00:45:27.280 to

00:45:27.380 see

00:45:27.480 them

00:45:27.640 killed

00:45:28.440 because

00:45:28.740 they're

00:45:28.960 horrible

00:45:29.340 yes

00:45:30.060 supposedly

00:45:30.920 tongue

00:45:31.180 in cheek

00:45:31.500 thank

00:45:31.740 god

00:45:31.920 she's

00:45:32.100 been

00:45:32.220 fired

00:45:32.440 so I

00:45:32.700 don't

00:45:32.840 have

00:45:32.960 to

00:45:33.060 take

00:45:33.200 my

00:45:33.340 placard

00:45:33.700 and

00:45:34.120 go

00:45:34.240 protest

00:45:34.620 in

00:45:34.780 front

00:45:35.000 of

00:45:35.120 Trinity

00:45:35.360 but

00:45:35.540 I

00:45:35.620 was

00:45:35.740 ready

00:45:35.900 to

00:45:36.060 do

00:45:36.180 it

00:45:36.280 Ben

00:45:36.460 so

00:45:38.020 at

00:45:38.880 Trinity

00:45:39.220 they

00:45:39.860 have

00:45:40.120 a

00:45:40.240 policy

00:45:40.600 in

00:45:40.840 all

00:45:41.180 the

00:45:41.320 New

00:45:41.420 York

00:45:41.540 school

00:45:41.920 independent

00:45:42.420 schools

00:45:43.260 that

00:45:43.740 they

00:45:43.860 do

00:45:44.020 not

00:45:44.200 tell

00:45:44.360 the

00:45:44.480 parents

00:45:44.740 all

00:45:45.520 the

00:45:45.720 child

00:45:45.920 needs

00:45:46.120 to

00:45:46.240 say

00:45:46.440 is

00:45:46.740 I'm

00:45:47.080 now

00:45:47.240 a

00:45:47.380 girl

00:45:47.580 or

00:45:47.780 I'm

00:45:47.880 now

00:45:48.020 a

00:45:48.120 boy

00:45:48.260 do

00:45:48.480 not

00:45:48.640 tell

00:45:48.760 my

00:45:48.880 parents

00:45:49.080 and

00:45:49.200 they

00:45:49.300 will

00:45:49.440 not

00:45:49.780 so

00:45:50.380 that's

00:45:51.160 the

00:45:51.360 situation

00:45:51.740 Virginia

00:45:52.120 schools

00:45:52.420 were

00:45:52.560 in

00:45:52.700 public

00:45:53.040 schools

00:45:53.500 so

00:45:54.280 Young

00:45:54.640 can

00:45:54.760 comes

00:45:55.020 in

00:45:55.160 as

00:45:55.360 the

00:45:55.520 corrective

00:45:56.180 just

00:45:56.460 to

00:45:56.600 restore

00:45:56.960 normalcy

00:45:57.620 he's

00:45:58.060 not

00:45:58.180 saying

00:45:58.360 you

00:45:58.480 can't

00:45:58.720 do

00:45:58.840 it

00:45:58.960 I'm

00:45:59.060 looking

00:45:59.400 at

00:45:59.560 his

00:45:59.660 regulations

00:46:00.080 he's

00:46:00.900 saying

00:46:01.260 students

00:46:01.920 should

00:46:02.100 be

00:46:02.220 referred

00:46:02.480 to

00:46:02.640 by

00:46:02.780 their

00:46:02.920 names

00:46:03.080 and

00:46:03.220 protons

00:46:03.500 in

00:46:03.660 their

00:46:03.780 original

00:46:04.080 records

00:46:04.560 unless

00:46:05.180 a

00:46:05.400 parent

00:46:05.600 approves

00:46:06.080 the

00:46:06.500 use

00:46:06.800 of

00:46:07.160 an

00:46:07.260 alternative

00:46:07.700 students

00:46:08.840 or

00:46:09.220 schools

00:46:09.600 may

00:46:10.080 not

00:46:10.340 encourage

00:46:10.740 teachers

00:46:11.100 to

00:46:11.340 conceal

00:46:11.800 information

00:46:12.480 about

00:46:13.220 a

00:46:13.400 student's

00:46:13.880 gender

00:46:14.200 from

00:46:14.960 their

00:46:15.180 parents

00:46:15.660 there

00:46:16.060 should

00:46:16.220 not

00:46:16.420 be

00:46:16.620 secrets

00:46:17.220 between

00:46:17.900 a

00:46:18.420 minor

00:46:18.940 and

00:46:19.700 a

00:46:19.920 teacher

00:46:20.320 who

00:46:20.820 has

00:46:21.000 no

00:46:21.180 biological

00:46:21.600 connection

00:46:22.080 to

00:46:22.520 said

00:46:22.780 minor

00:46:23.080 it's

00:46:24.780 utter

00:46:24.980 insanity

00:46:25.380 and

00:46:25.620 again

00:46:25.960 it's

00:46:26.160 just

00:46:26.280 another

00:46:26.740 example

00:46:27.340 of

00:46:27.720 the

00:46:27.980 left's

00:46:28.260 routine

00:46:28.560 it's

00:46:28.840 not

00:46:29.000 happening

00:46:29.340 and

00:46:29.460 it's

00:46:29.580 good

00:46:29.700 that

00:46:29.820 it

00:46:29.920 is

00:46:30.080 so

00:46:30.640 you

00:46:30.960 point

00:46:31.320 out

00:46:31.540 that

00:46:31.680 this

00:46:31.820 is

00:46:31.940 a

00:46:32.200 trend

00:46:32.460 and

00:46:32.580 this

00:46:32.700 has

00:46:32.800 been

00:46:32.900 happening

00:46:33.280 in

00:46:33.680 schools

00:46:34.060 all

00:46:34.240 over

00:46:34.400 the

00:46:34.540 nation

00:46:34.820 are you

00:46:36.960 suggesting

00:46:37.700 that we

00:46:38.240 would

00:46:38.360 socially

00:46:38.620 transition

00:46:39.040 a

00:46:39.200 child

00:46:39.420 to

00:46:39.560 school

00:46:39.800 and

00:46:39.980 not

00:46:40.140 tell

00:46:40.300 the

00:46:40.400 parents

00:46:40.580 like

00:46:40.740 yeah

00:46:40.900 that's

00:46:41.120 exactly

00:46:41.400 what

00:46:41.520 we're

00:46:41.580 suggesting

00:46:41.840 you're

00:46:42.160 right

00:46:42.340 it

00:46:42.660 is

00:46:42.800 happening

00:46:43.100 and

00:46:43.240 it's

00:46:43.340 very

00:46:43.500 good

00:46:43.680 that

00:46:43.800 it

00:46:43.920 is

00:46:44.060 and

00:46:44.140 you

00:46:44.220 can't

00:46:44.460 stop

00:46:44.660 us

00:46:44.800 from

00:46:44.920 doing

00:46:45.140 this

00:46:45.320 sort

00:46:45.500 of

00:46:45.580 stuff

00:46:45.820 this

00:46:46.540 is

00:46:47.200 a

00:46:47.480 form

00:46:47.760 of

00:46:47.940 child

00:46:48.180 abuse

00:46:48.460 it's

00:46:48.920 a

00:46:49.020 form

00:46:49.160 of

00:46:49.300 kidnapping

00:46:49.660 and

00:46:50.280 if

00:46:50.660 somebody

00:46:51.020 were

00:46:51.380 to

00:46:51.720 approach

00:46:52.640 my

00:46:53.200 child

00:46:53.660 who

00:46:54.000 was

00:46:54.100 confused

00:46:54.480 and

00:46:55.020 then

00:46:55.180 to

00:46:55.380 reinstill

00:46:56.280 that

00:46:56.720 confusion

00:46:57.160 and

00:46:57.520 place

00:46:57.900 my

00:46:58.100 child

00:46:58.340 in

00:46:58.460 direct

00:46:58.700 opposition

00:46:59.120 to

00:46:59.500 me

00:46:59.740 that

00:47:00.260 is

00:47:00.480 an

00:47:00.660 act

00:47:01.020 of

00:47:01.260 abuse

00:47:01.720 it

00:47:02.140 is

00:47:02.280 it

00:47:02.440 is

00:47:02.560 the

00:47:02.680 most

00:47:02.880 egregious

00:47:03.500 thing

00:47:03.720 you

00:47:03.900 can

00:47:04.060 do

00:47:04.240 to

00:47:04.420 a

00:47:04.540 child

00:47:04.820 it's

00:47:05.020 the

00:47:05.100 most

00:47:05.220 egregious

00:47:05.540 thing

00:47:05.680 you

00:47:05.760 can

00:47:05.860 do

00:47:05.940 to

00:47:06.020 a

00:47:06.100 parent

00:47:06.280 and

00:47:06.600 the

00:47:06.700 fact

00:47:06.880 that

00:47:07.000 you

00:47:07.100 have

00:47:07.260 people

00:47:07.520 on

00:47:07.700 the

00:47:07.800 left

00:47:07.940 who

00:47:08.100 want

00:47:08.320 the

00:47:08.480 state

00:47:08.700 not

00:47:08.880 only

00:47:09.040 to

00:47:09.200 sponsor

00:47:09.520 it

00:47:09.740 but

00:47:10.000 to

00:47:10.280 essentially

00:47:10.620 mandate

00:47:11.140 it

00:47:11.400 in

00:47:11.560 many

00:47:11.740 cases

00:47:12.060 is

00:47:12.660 an

00:47:12.960 act

00:47:13.220 true

00:47:13.700 societal

00:47:14.100 sickness

00:47:14.500 it

00:47:14.700 really

00:47:14.900 is

00:47:15.100 perverse

00:47:15.820 the

00:47:16.220 fact

00:47:29.120 it's

00:47:29.520 truly

00:47:29.720 contrary

00:47:30.160 to

00:47:30.300 what

00:47:30.400 we

00:47:30.500 teach

00:47:30.660 our

00:47:30.800 children

00:47:31.040 which

00:47:31.260 is

00:47:31.400 there's

00:47:31.580 no

00:47:31.780 secrets

00:47:32.100 between

00:47:32.380 you

00:47:32.560 and

00:47:32.640 a

00:47:32.720 grown

00:47:32.880 up

00:47:33.360 if

00:47:33.620 any

00:47:33.940 adult

00:47:34.440 tells

00:47:34.760 you

00:47:34.940 he

00:47:35.120 wants

00:47:35.300 to

00:47:35.380 have

00:47:35.460 a

00:47:35.560 secret

00:47:35.800 with

00:47:36.020 you

00:47:36.200 the

00:47:36.620 first

00:47:36.860 thing

00:47:36.980 you

00:47:37.060 need

00:47:37.160 to

00:47:37.260 do

00:47:37.400 tell

00:47:37.640 mom

00:47:37.840 and

00:47:37.960 dad

00:47:38.140 that's

00:47:38.720 how

00:47:38.840 groomers

00:47:39.320 operate

00:47:39.780 real

00:47:40.080 groomers

00:47:40.540 who

00:47:40.640 are

00:47:40.740 looking

00:47:40.940 to

00:47:41.060 molest

00:47:41.340 your

00:47:41.500 children

00:47:41.780 do

00:47:42.020 exactly

00:47:42.420 that

00:47:42.720 it's

00:47:43.200 a

00:47:43.300 secret

00:47:43.520 don't

00:47:43.740 tell

00:47:43.860 mom

00:47:44.040 and dad

00:47:44.360 they

00:47:44.500 wouldn't

00:47:44.680 understand

00:47:45.280 how good

00:47:46.300 this

00:47:46.460 is

00:47:46.580 going

00:47:46.700 to

00:47:46.780 feel

00:47:47.040 or

00:47:47.260 how

00:47:47.480 evolved

00:47:48.460 you

00:47:48.840 are

00:47:49.140 and

00:47:50.020 so

00:47:50.220 I

00:47:50.400 realize

00:47:50.600 this

00:47:50.780 is

00:47:50.900 in

00:47:50.980 a

00:47:51.080 different

00:47:51.260 lane

00:47:51.520 but

00:47:51.780 it's

00:47:52.600 not

00:47:52.740 that

00:47:52.920 far

00:47:53.160 away

00:47:53.620 so

00:47:54.200 you

00:47:54.740 can't

00:47:54.940 have

00:47:55.040 teachers

00:47:55.300 telling

00:47:55.540 students

00:47:55.920 that

00:47:56.060 they

00:47:56.160 can

00:47:56.260 have

00:47:56.400 secrets

00:47:56.760 from

00:47:57.220 the

00:47:57.360 parents

00:47:57.660 period

00:47:58.140 all right

00:47:58.500 Ben

00:47:58.720 staying

00:47:58.980 with us

00:47:59.380 don't

00:48:00.080 forget

00:48:00.240 folks

00:48:00.440 I

00:48:00.500 want

00:48:00.580 to

00:48:00.620 tell

00:48:00.720 you

00:48:00.800 today's

00:48:01.100 Thursday

00:48:01.420 my

00:48:01.800 weekly

00:48:02.100 conversation

00:48:02.500 with

00:48:02.740 you

00:48:02.840 I

00:48:03.020 sent

00:48:03.180 an

00:48:03.360 email

00:48:03.580 on

00:48:04.100 Fridays

00:48:04.420 we'll

00:48:05.000 go

00:48:05.120 out

00:48:05.260 tomorrow

00:48:05.660 the

00:48:05.860 American

00:48:06.120 News

00:48:06.340 Minute

00:48:06.580 gives

00:48:07.180 you

00:48:07.260 all

00:48:07.380 the

00:48:07.480 news

00:48:07.680 you

00:48:07.840 need

00:48:08.160 to

00:48:08.440 know

00:48:08.660 in

00:48:08.840 one

00:48:09.180 minute

00:48:09.540 or

00:48:09.700 less

00:48:09.960 our

00:48:10.280 listeners

00:48:10.880 our

00:48:11.120 viewers

00:48:11.340 are

00:48:11.520 timing

00:48:11.860 us

00:48:12.120 and

00:48:12.660 we're

00:48:12.860 passing

00:48:13.360 plus

00:48:13.940 we'll

00:48:14.040 have

00:48:14.140 the

00:48:14.220 latest

00:48:14.380 trouble

00:48:14.640 my

00:48:14.840 strudwick

00:48:15.160 got

00:48:15.340 into

00:48:15.540 and

00:48:15.760 trust

00:48:16.240 me

00:48:16.360 it's

00:48:16.480 a

00:48:16.680 doozy

00:48:17.040 speaking

00:48:17.780 of

00:48:17.940 a

00:48:18.120 doozy

00:48:18.460 I'm

00:48:18.900 getting

00:48:19.020 ready

00:48:19.200 to

00:48:19.280 go

00:48:19.360 to

00:48:19.460 school

00:48:19.660 today

00:48:20.000 got

00:48:20.380 the

00:48:20.520 kids

00:48:20.680 out

00:48:20.860 in

00:48:20.940 the

00:48:21.000 car

00:48:21.280 I'm

00:48:21.680 like

00:48:21.780 what

00:48:21.960 is

00:48:22.160 that

00:48:22.320 smell

00:48:22.940 I

00:48:35.260 make

00:48:35.580 it

00:48:35.760 wasn't

00:48:36.200 good

00:48:36.400 enough

00:48:36.920 you

00:48:37.160 can

00:48:37.300 sign

00:48:37.720 up

00:48:37.880 now

00:48:38.060 at

00:48:38.200 megankelly.com

00:48:39.160 you can

00:48:39.720 email me

00:48:40.260 there

00:48:40.460 megan

00:48:40.780 megyn

00:48:41.480 at

00:48:41.600 megankelly.com

00:48:42.800 now streaming

00:48:43.560 on paramount

00:48:44.280 plus

00:48:44.820 someone is

00:48:46.200 trying to

00:48:46.620 frame us

00:48:47.200 until our

00:48:48.460 names are

00:48:48.920 cleared

00:48:49.380 we're

00:48:50.620 fugitives

00:48:51.080 from

00:48:51.280 interval

00:48:51.620 like

00:48:52.320 bonnie

00:48:52.640 and

00:48:52.860 clide

00:48:53.280 with

00:48:53.460 better

00:48:53.720 snacks

00:48:54.360 espionage

00:48:56.040 you still

00:48:56.560 as good

00:48:56.860 a shot

00:48:57.240 as you

00:48:57.500 used

00:48:57.700 to

00:48:57.800 be

00:48:58.200 better

00:48:59.760 is

00:49:00.180 their

00:49:00.420 love

00:49:00.820 language

00:49:01.380 we like

00:49:01.780 to walk

00:49:02.080 that fine

00:49:02.560 line

00:49:02.820 between

00:49:03.120 techno

00:49:03.540 thriller

00:49:03.960 romantic

00:49:05.780 comedy

00:49:06.300 we make

00:49:07.180 up our

00:49:07.460 own

00:49:07.600 rules

00:49:08.080 ncis

00:49:09.000 tony

00:49:09.480 and

00:49:09.660 ziva

00:49:10.000 now

00:49:10.560 streaming

00:49:10.940 on

00:49:11.160 paramount

00:49:11.560 plus

00:49:12.100 dot com

00:49:13.200 so i'm

00:49:16.860 really looking

00:49:17.380 forward to

00:49:17.800 this next

00:49:18.400 discussion

00:49:19.120 um

00:49:19.920 something

00:49:21.340 extraordinary

00:49:21.840 happened with

00:49:22.420 jordan peterson

00:49:23.020 he went on

00:49:23.560 the pierce

00:49:23.880 morgan show

00:49:24.440 last night

00:49:25.380 and i've been

00:49:26.540 watching jordan

00:49:26.980 for a long

00:49:27.420 time and

00:49:28.200 just what's

00:49:28.660 being done

00:49:29.000 to him

00:49:29.320 he's just

00:49:29.720 like

00:49:29.920 everybody's

00:49:30.380 favorite

00:49:30.620 punching

00:49:31.040 bag

00:49:31.420 when it

00:49:31.720 comes to

00:49:32.320 young

00:49:33.200 men

00:49:33.540 because

00:49:34.180 he's

00:49:34.620 been

00:49:34.960 one of

00:49:36.000 the few

00:49:36.220 people

00:49:36.500 speaking

00:49:37.000 to

00:49:37.420 young

00:49:37.700 men

00:49:38.000 and

00:49:38.240 what's

00:49:38.560 really

00:49:38.780 bothering

00:49:39.740 them

00:49:40.060 what's

00:49:40.740 on their

00:49:41.020 minds

00:49:41.380 over the

00:49:42.140 past few

00:49:42.560 years

00:49:42.840 and he

00:49:43.240 gets it

00:49:43.920 and he's

00:49:44.100 not afraid

00:49:44.460 to identify

00:49:45.100 it and he's

00:49:45.760 become like

00:49:46.500 really important

00:49:47.600 to huge

00:49:48.900 numbers of

00:49:49.360 people not

00:49:49.720 just in

00:49:50.060 canada where

00:49:50.420 he's from

00:49:50.800 but here

00:49:51.580 the daily

00:49:51.940 wire just

00:49:52.360 struck up a

00:49:52.780 partnership

00:49:53.040 with him

00:49:53.580 which i

00:49:54.120 think is

00:49:54.360 great

00:49:54.660 it's good

00:49:55.060 for both

00:49:55.420 parties

00:49:55.820 and i'm

00:49:57.100 told you

00:49:57.540 and you

00:49:57.820 and jordan

00:49:58.120 are actually

00:49:58.400 going to

00:49:58.580 speak in

00:49:58.880 jerusalem

00:49:59.200 together

00:49:59.560 on october

00:50:00.620 six

00:50:00.940 that's

00:50:01.240 pretty

00:50:01.360 cool

00:50:01.640 so there's

00:50:03.040 this movie

00:50:03.500 making news

00:50:04.500 for all sorts

00:50:05.200 of bad

00:50:06.020 reasons

00:50:06.460 it's called

00:50:07.260 don't worry

00:50:07.780 darling

00:50:08.140 and it's

00:50:08.920 being made

00:50:09.420 by olivia

00:50:10.160 wild

00:50:10.560 and she's

00:50:11.260 got chris

00:50:11.780 pine

00:50:12.200 as a star

00:50:12.900 in it

00:50:13.140 and harry

00:50:13.480 styles

00:50:13.940 and this

00:50:14.900 woman

00:50:15.520 florence

00:50:16.480 is it

00:50:16.800 pu

00:50:17.060 pu

00:50:17.780 pu

00:50:18.040 pu

00:50:18.980 g

00:50:19.300 okay

00:50:19.720 and this

00:50:21.280 is a

00:50:21.600 man bashing

00:50:22.280 film from

00:50:22.900 what i've

00:50:23.260 been told

00:50:23.580 i haven't

00:50:23.960 seen it

00:50:24.320 so i'm

00:50:24.620 just reading

00:50:24.980 the write

00:50:25.280 ups

00:50:25.420 it's got

00:50:25.700 some sort

00:50:26.000 of a

00:50:26.160 me too

00:50:26.420 theme

00:50:26.880 and it's

00:50:27.840 not

00:50:28.180 doesn't look

00:50:28.920 favorably

00:50:29.300 on men

00:50:29.820 and the

00:50:30.860 villain in

00:50:31.300 the movie

00:50:31.680 played by

00:50:32.120 chris pine

00:50:32.680 she says

00:50:33.920 olivia wild

00:50:34.460 says is

00:50:34.960 based on

00:50:36.120 jordan

00:50:36.580 he stars

00:50:37.800 as frank

00:50:38.280 the founder

00:50:38.940 of a utopian

00:50:39.760 1950s community

00:50:40.900 in the desert

00:50:41.520 known as the

00:50:42.280 victory project

00:50:43.160 turns out this

00:50:44.460 project has

00:50:45.000 dark secrets

00:50:46.020 i don't i can't

00:50:46.980 give you spoilers

00:50:47.520 because i haven't

00:50:48.080 even seen it

00:50:48.700 but she told

00:50:50.740 maggie gyllenhaal

00:50:51.820 olivia wild

00:50:52.400 did that this

00:50:53.000 was based on

00:50:53.540 jordan peterson

00:50:54.240 this quote

00:50:55.800 pseudo

00:50:56.580 intellectual

00:50:57.460 hero

00:50:58.420 to the

00:50:59.500 incel

00:51:00.140 community

00:51:00.760 i mean

00:51:01.300 the nerve

00:51:01.880 of olivia wild

00:51:02.600 to refer

00:51:03.060 to jordan peterson

00:51:03.940 as a pseudo

00:51:04.460 intellectual

00:51:04.920 as though

00:51:05.600 she knows

00:51:06.160 anything

00:51:07.060 i mean

00:51:07.860 literally

00:51:08.180 anything

00:51:08.640 okay but

00:51:09.040 just pause

00:51:09.520 there

00:51:09.760 wild then

00:51:10.980 explained

00:51:11.360 incels

00:51:12.020 i-n-c-e-l

00:51:13.020 are basically

00:51:14.160 disenfranchised

00:51:15.100 mostly white

00:51:15.840 men

00:51:16.280 who believe

00:51:17.140 they are

00:51:17.540 entitled

00:51:18.340 to sex

00:51:19.560 from women

00:51:20.240 and they

00:51:21.220 believe that

00:51:21.620 society has

00:51:22.200 now robbed

00:51:22.840 them

00:51:23.180 that the

00:51:23.840 idea of

00:51:24.300 feminism

00:51:24.680 is working

00:51:25.380 against

00:51:25.820 nature

00:51:26.260 and that

00:51:26.980 we

00:51:27.300 meaning women

00:51:27.920 must be put

00:51:28.620 back into

00:51:29.220 the correct

00:51:29.860 place

00:51:30.940 then she

00:51:32.020 says this

00:51:32.400 guy jordan

00:51:32.840 peterson is

00:51:33.340 someone that

00:51:33.740 legitimizes

00:51:34.560 certain aspects

00:51:35.480 of their

00:51:35.800 movement because

00:51:36.360 he's a former

00:51:37.020 professor he's

00:51:38.080 an author he

00:51:39.100 wears a suit

00:51:39.840 so they feel

00:51:40.820 like this is a

00:51:41.540 real philosophy

00:51:42.300 that should be

00:51:43.400 taken seriously

00:51:44.200 and once again i

00:51:45.500 mean as somebody

00:51:45.880 who's listened to

00:51:46.320 a lot of what

00:51:46.740 jordan said i

00:51:47.280 listen can i

00:51:48.020 just tell you as

00:51:48.420 an aside when i

00:51:49.020 was at nbc when

00:51:49.760 12 rules for life

00:51:50.940 came out and i

00:51:51.960 had so many people

00:51:52.520 bring it to me be

00:51:53.100 like let's get

00:51:53.680 him and i was

00:51:55.160 like okay what's

00:51:55.920 this about

00:51:56.300 some crazy

00:51:57.520 lunatic saying

00:51:58.180 terrible things

00:51:58.720 and then i

00:51:59.300 actually read it

00:51:59.860 and i was like

00:52:00.260 this is brilliant

00:52:01.060 i there's like

00:52:02.160 almost nothing in

00:52:02.760 here that i

00:52:03.060 disagree with

00:52:03.640 i don't want to

00:52:04.520 fight with him

00:52:04.960 i want to learn

00:52:05.420 more from him

00:52:05.880 and then i

00:52:06.240 subscribed to

00:52:07.480 his website

00:52:08.120 started listening

00:52:08.640 to his lectures

00:52:09.200 i'm like this

00:52:09.600 there's so much

00:52:10.080 good stuff in

00:52:10.660 here so this

00:52:11.540 woman clearly

00:52:12.040 has not listened

00:52:12.500 to anything

00:52:12.960 about jordan

00:52:13.620 peterson only

00:52:14.700 the negative

00:52:15.080 things but

00:52:16.200 it bothered

00:52:17.280 him it

00:52:18.500 bothered him

00:52:19.440 so he goes on

00:52:20.000 with pierce

00:52:20.400 morgan

00:52:20.840 pierce asks him

00:52:22.400 about it last

00:52:23.080 night what do you

00:52:23.920 make of it so

00:52:24.360 far i mean

00:52:25.460 look the basic

00:52:26.580 idea here from

00:52:27.760 olivia wilde and

00:52:28.580 so many other

00:52:29.020 people is that

00:52:29.460 anyone who speaks

00:52:30.320 to young males

00:52:31.740 is by necessity

00:52:33.000 bad because young

00:52:33.820 males are bad

00:52:34.440 the idea is if

00:52:35.540 you have a bunch

00:52:36.080 of men who

00:52:36.660 have been sort

00:52:37.480 of left behind

00:52:38.460 by the the

00:52:39.260 modern the

00:52:40.220 postmodern

00:52:40.860 bargain the

00:52:41.360 postmodern

00:52:41.740 moral bargain

00:52:42.300 which says that

00:52:43.140 men have no

00:52:44.060 role as fathers

00:52:44.920 because after all

00:52:45.820 a woman needs a

00:52:46.680 man like a fish

00:52:47.260 needs a bicycle

00:52:47.760 men don't have a

00:52:48.600 role as protectors

00:52:49.520 because after all

00:52:50.380 men are mostly

00:52:51.080 toxic they're not

00:52:51.840 there to protect

00:52:52.280 women and women

00:52:52.680 don't need

00:52:53.000 protection at all

00:52:54.160 men are not

00:52:55.180 supposed to be

00:52:55.720 responsible and

00:52:56.400 this by the way

00:52:56.800 is what gives

00:52:57.140 men purpose if

00:52:57.760 you deprive men

00:52:58.400 of their entire

00:52:59.080 purpose and then

00:53:00.240 those men feel

00:53:01.080 left out and left

00:53:01.880 behind and they

00:53:02.580 get angry then

00:53:03.720 the idea is if

00:53:04.360 you try to speak

00:53:04.900 to those men and

00:53:05.900 you say no you

00:53:06.400 do have a purpose

00:53:07.120 actually you have

00:53:07.800 dragons inside you

00:53:08.900 that require slaying

00:53:10.520 right and and that

00:53:11.560 requires you to

00:53:12.220 actually man up and

00:53:13.220 and do your duty

00:53:14.180 and and undergo

00:53:15.320 struggle which is

00:53:16.100 jordan's main

00:53:16.780 message i mean this

00:53:17.420 is what he says

00:53:18.220 over and over and

00:53:19.280 over is that men

00:53:20.300 do have toxic

00:53:20.940 masculinity inside

00:53:21.840 them and you have

00:53:22.260 to battle that with

00:53:23.540 being a gentleman

00:53:24.320 you have to battle

00:53:24.860 that with with

00:53:25.440 more powerful

00:53:26.000 masculinity and

00:53:27.340 that message to

00:53:28.780 the feminist left

00:53:29.440 is anathema you're

00:53:30.300 supposed to ignore

00:53:31.200 young men and i've

00:53:32.320 talked to jordan about

00:53:32.980 this extensively

00:53:33.760 obviously jordan and

00:53:34.540 i are very friendly

00:53:35.060 and and when jordan

00:53:36.680 and i talk about

00:53:37.180 this the thing that

00:53:37.740 he can't get over

00:53:38.500 is this idea from

00:53:39.860 the left that he

00:53:40.460 is doing something

00:53:41.040 deeply bad and

00:53:41.920 deeply wrong by

00:53:43.140 reaching out to

00:53:44.160 men who feel

00:53:45.180 disenfranchised like

00:53:46.140 what are we supposed

00:53:46.800 to do just cheer the

00:53:48.260 fact that they are

00:53:48.880 disenfranchised sure the

00:53:50.040 fact that they feel

00:53:51.280 adrift and and

00:53:52.400 lost in the entire

00:53:53.600 liberal project was

00:53:54.520 supposed to be about

00:53:55.180 quote-unquote

00:53:55.540 marginalized communities

00:53:56.500 so now there's been

00:53:57.140 an attempt to

00:53:57.920 quote-unquote

00:53:58.200 marginalize a bunch

00:53:59.740 of young particularly

00:54:01.380 white men because

00:54:02.120 they're not members

00:54:02.620 of a victim group and

00:54:03.740 then if they have

00:54:04.380 complaints about the

00:54:05.260 way that their lives

00:54:05.820 are going to

00:54:06.640 basically say well you

00:54:07.720 deserve it jordan is

00:54:08.780 not justifying the

00:54:09.480 complaints he's not

00:54:10.140 saying well you know

00:54:11.040 you guys have a point

00:54:11.820 what jordan is saying

00:54:12.540 is buck up right

00:54:13.920 pick yourself up go do

00:54:15.260 something useful he's

00:54:16.800 not saying that that you

00:54:17.940 know the quote-unquote

00:54:18.660 incel community that

00:54:20.040 these people are

00:54:20.620 justified in their

00:54:21.440 belief system and

00:54:22.180 they're justified in

00:54:22.760 the rage he's saying

00:54:23.260 you need to become a

00:54:24.700 better person a stronger

00:54:25.580 version of yourself to

00:54:26.480 go out and face the

00:54:27.060 vicissitudes of life and

00:54:28.180 this is what draws the

00:54:29.020 ire this is what makes

00:54:29.920 people so crazy it is a

00:54:32.520 really shocking example

00:54:34.280 of how the left purports

00:54:35.740 to be incredibly

00:54:36.400 sympathetic to people

00:54:37.160 but in reality if you

00:54:38.380 don't fall into a

00:54:39.000 category that they wish

00:54:39.760 to cultivate as sort of

00:54:40.580 a political subgroup

00:54:41.460 they hate your gods and

00:54:42.840 they actually wish to

00:54:43.680 see you suffer in an

00:54:44.940 enormous number of

00:54:45.680 ways I mean there is

00:54:46.280 an article by the way

00:54:46.920 in Canada from the

00:54:47.760 CBC in which they're

00:54:49.400 going after me in sort

00:54:50.520 of a similar fashion

00:54:51.240 only to the extent that

00:54:52.160 they actually said in

00:54:52.820 there that it was

00:54:53.820 rhetoric like mine is

00:54:55.160 sort of pro-toxic

00:54:56.440 masculinity anti-woman

00:54:57.780 rhetoric you know the

00:54:58.920 viewing women as

00:54:59.760 objects and I and I

00:55:00.800 thought to myself like

00:55:01.340 literally anybody who is

00:55:02.260 just right of center is

00:55:03.780 is considered that even

00:55:05.060 an orthodox Jew I mean

00:55:06.220 if you're going to accuse

00:55:06.860 people of objectification

00:55:07.760 of women I have a

00:55:08.460 feeling you're going to

00:55:08.860 come up short on that

00:55:09.560 one but for Jordan is

00:55:10.460 like the apotheosis of

00:55:11.440 this he is their number

00:55:12.140 one you know white whale on

00:55:13.580 this stuff yeah oh my

00:55:14.760 god it's it's true if

00:55:15.580 you spend and I I used to

00:55:16.760 live in a building that

00:55:17.440 it was all orthodox

00:55:18.500 Jewish families and we

00:55:19.740 used to go to Shabbat

00:55:20.660 dinner all the time and

00:55:21.760 I I love the ceremony

00:55:23.160 it's like the way Jewish

00:55:24.140 men would treat their

00:55:25.180 wives and like revere

00:55:26.000 their wives at these

00:55:26.680 I'm like we gotta adopt

00:55:27.440 some of this stuff in

00:55:28.080 Catholicism we need more

00:55:29.480 of this but it's absurd

00:55:30.940 I listen to you all the

00:55:31.600 time I never never heard

00:55:32.560 anything even even close

00:55:33.840 to the line on sexist

00:55:34.800 you by the way wound up

00:55:36.440 quitting Breitbart after

00:55:37.700 Michelle Fields was

00:55:38.820 treated so badly for them

00:55:39.780 you've stood up for women

00:55:40.620 repeatedly in your it's

00:55:41.460 absurd okay we have the

00:55:42.820 Jordan clip on peers at

00:55:44.300 least the audio of it

00:55:45.080 let's listen

00:55:45.500 are you the intellectual

00:55:48.340 hero to these people

00:55:49.500 sure why not you know

00:55:53.580 people have been after me

00:55:56.300 for a long time by because

00:55:58.320 I've been speaking to

00:55:59.500 disaffected young men you

00:56:01.280 know what a terrible thing

00:56:02.280 to do that is

00:56:03.220 I thought the marginalized

00:56:12.040 were supposed to have a

00:56:13.080 voice

00:56:13.440 it's making you

00:56:16.180 emotional talk about

00:56:17.080 well God you know

00:56:18.200 it's very difficult to

00:56:22.140 understand how demoralized

00:56:24.720 people are and certainly

00:56:26.680 many young men are in that

00:56:28.200 category and you get these

00:56:30.340 casual insults these these

00:56:33.820 incels is what do they

00:56:35.000 mean it's like well these

00:56:35.980 men they're they don't

00:56:37.560 know how to make

00:56:38.260 themselves attractive to

00:56:39.520 women who are very picky

00:56:40.720 and good for them women

00:56:41.820 like be picky that's that's

00:56:44.000 your gift man demand high

00:56:47.420 standards from your men fair

00:56:49.080 enough but all these men who

00:56:50.980 are alienated it's like they're

00:56:53.320 lonesome and and and they

00:56:55.540 don't know what to do and

00:56:56.380 everyone piles abuse on

00:56:58.180 them yes and honestly

00:57:01.780 Ben I was looking at the

00:57:02.520 numbers in 2019 men

00:57:06.160 accounted for 80 percent

00:57:07.860 of all suicide deaths in

00:57:09.920 America 80 percent and

00:57:12.220 they all the studies also

00:57:13.180 show that a majority of

00:57:16.480 American men who die by

00:57:17.600 suicide have no known

00:57:19.880 history of mental health

00:57:20.940 problems because they don't

00:57:22.640 talk about them they don't

00:57:24.400 it's not that they don't

00:57:25.180 have any mental health

00:57:26.020 problems they don't talk

00:57:27.340 about them and when they

00:57:28.740 do try to talk about them

00:57:30.300 and like Jordan Peterson

00:57:32.360 listen to Jordan Peterson

00:57:33.680 subscribe to Jordan

00:57:34.600 Peterson or anybody else

00:57:36.080 speaking out about these

00:57:36.880 issues they get attacked

00:57:39.220 they get featured in an

00:57:41.120 Olivia Wilde movie as some

00:57:43.200 sort of demon so screw her

00:57:45.820 as somebody who is at the

00:57:47.520 inception of the me too

00:57:49.040 movement I think I can say

00:57:50.480 what those of us who are

00:57:52.060 there at the beginning and

00:57:53.080 by the way Olivia Wilde you

00:57:54.560 were not one of them okay you

00:57:56.300 were not there it was about

00:57:58.720 just stopping men from

00:58:00.460 making sexual favors at the

00:58:02.960 office a condition of

00:58:04.920 advancement everyone agrees

00:58:06.600 with that men agree with

00:58:08.060 that women agree with that

00:58:09.360 it was never meant to

00:58:10.760 bastardize men writ large

00:58:12.860 that's what people like her

00:58:14.380 are doing and it's having a

00:58:16.740 serious negative effect I

00:58:18.740 mean the the irony with

00:58:21.020 regard to Olivia Wilde of

00:58:22.260 course is that the only

00:58:22.880 person who created an

00:58:24.260 unsafe apparently work

00:58:25.540 environment for her

00:58:26.320 employees was Olivia Wilde

00:58:27.820 the reports are that

00:58:29.160 Florence Pugh is one of the

00:58:30.080 actresses on the on the set

00:58:31.380 was very upset with the

00:58:32.300 fact that Olivia Wilde who

00:58:33.320 was in a long-term

00:58:34.160 relationship with Jason

00:58:34.960 Sudeikis had taken up with

00:58:36.080 one of the stars of the

00:58:36.740 film Harry Styles in the

00:58:37.760 middle of filming and

00:58:38.800 Florence Pugh was really

00:58:39.560 really uncomfortable about

00:58:40.480 it on set that didn't

00:58:41.080 bother Olivia Wilde one

00:58:42.460 iota but she's very upset

00:58:43.560 with Jordan Peterson again

00:58:45.080 the the idea here is that

00:58:46.420 men are the font head of

00:58:47.840 evil men have no role to

00:58:48.960 play in society we deprive

00:58:50.420 men of purpose we deprive

00:58:51.440 them of meaning and then

00:58:52.420 we're surprised when

00:58:53.160 they're disaffected when

00:58:53.980 they act badly again

00:58:55.320 there's no excuse for men

00:58:56.240 acting badly but you have

00:58:57.420 to give them paths toward

00:58:58.580 success Nick Eberstadt is a

00:59:00.540 really really good data

00:59:01.400 scientist over at American

00:59:03.000 Enterprise Institute he has a

00:59:04.080 brand new book out talking

00:59:05.020 about the the single most

00:59:07.140 devastating thing that's

00:59:08.320 happening to the American

00:59:08.940 economy in the workforce is

00:59:10.240 huge numbers of relatively

00:59:11.820 young relatively healthy men

00:59:13.060 who are just dropping out of

00:59:13.860 the workforce and there's a

00:59:15.060 vast gap that's appearing

00:59:16.080 right now huge numbers of men

00:59:17.700 who have basically not just

00:59:18.860 quiet quit but actually quit who

00:59:20.200 are who have gone on

00:59:20.880 disability who are who are

00:59:22.400 you know having a

00:59:23.040 significant impact on the

00:59:23.880 economy and that is because

00:59:25.400 a lot of men are feeling

00:59:26.420 left behind and and guess

00:59:28.160 what none of it is making

00:59:29.360 society any happier men are

00:59:30.640 not happier women are not

00:59:31.660 happier I'm failing to see

00:59:33.260 what exactly is the social

00:59:34.600 bargain that has made broad

00:59:36.060 swaths of people so much

00:59:37.200 happier when traditional

00:59:38.320 masculinity was done away

00:59:39.600 with and I understand that

00:59:40.680 the left vision of

00:59:41.400 traditional masculinity is

00:59:42.540 men beating their children

00:59:43.440 with belts and men smoking

00:59:44.900 at the office while having

00:59:45.640 an affair with the secretary

00:59:46.520 and then leaving the little

00:59:47.640 wifey at home but that is

00:59:48.740 not what traditional

00:59:49.340 masculinity is about and

00:59:50.840 I speak as a deeply

00:59:51.840 religious person the goal

00:59:53.160 of traditional masculinity

00:59:54.200 is to take toxic masculinity

00:59:55.580 and that aggression and

00:59:56.760 chat and channel that in

00:59:58.200 positive directions I mean

00:59:59.540 the message that Jordan

01:00:00.340 promotes which is the same

01:00:01.220 message that you promote is

01:00:02.200 the same message that I

01:00:03.060 promote for young men is

01:00:04.260 take on responsibility take

01:00:05.860 on the burden of

01:00:06.440 responsibility will make you

01:00:07.400 stronger it will make you

01:00:08.220 better and even in that

01:00:09.260 clip right Jordan is being

01:00:10.300 ripped by Olivia Wilde is

01:00:11.260 somehow anti-feminist

01:00:12.080 saying women should have high

01:00:13.140 standards for men and now

01:00:14.180 we have to give men a path

01:00:15.220 to meet those high standards

01:00:16.200 as opposed to ripping them

01:00:17.160 for being men or suggesting

01:00:18.480 that the best way for them to

01:00:19.780 overcome their toxic masculinity

01:00:21.220 is to somehow feminize

01:00:22.680 themselves get in touch with

01:00:23.440 the feminine aspect of

01:00:24.820 themselves be not who you

01:00:26.600 God made you to be instead

01:00:28.180 become what the left would

01:00:29.940 want you to be which is some

01:00:30.700 sort of androgynized version

01:00:32.160 of a man that is not I dare

01:00:35.040 say and just based on

01:00:36.180 personal experience with my

01:00:37.280 wife and my three children I

01:00:38.640 dare say that I do not think

01:00:39.800 that there are very many women

01:00:40.760 who are out there who are

01:00:41.880 desperately looking for an

01:00:43.020 androgynous man who is now

01:00:44.860 who is jettisoned all of his

01:00:45.900 masculinity I just don't

01:00:46.820 think that's a particular

01:00:47.660 road to success not at all

01:00:49.440 well it it does dovetail into

01:00:51.660 your own experience recently

01:00:52.860 because you were making this

01:00:53.640 point quite sanely uh cogently

01:00:55.920 on the military and and

01:00:57.960 masculinity and the reaction

01:01:00.100 of course because you're you

01:01:01.180 was over the top and saying

01:01:02.860 you didn't get it and it was

01:01:03.800 this it was a similar situation

01:01:05.480 as what we've just been

01:01:06.660 discussing we've got the clip

01:01:08.340 um that I don't even want to

01:01:10.040 say got you in trouble because

01:01:10.900 you're in trouble all the time

01:01:11.780 it's not even trouble anymore

01:01:13.120 uh but got some backlash

01:01:14.760 here it is

01:01:15.280 the people who tend to fight

01:01:17.440 wars are typically very

01:01:19.260 patriotic very male people

01:01:21.600 I mean I'm sorry to break it

01:01:23.600 to you but this has been the

01:01:24.160 truth about military warfare

01:01:25.140 for literally all of human

01:01:26.160 history

01:01:26.480 and the institution of

01:01:29.280 traditional masculinity has

01:01:30.480 been core to that idea but

01:01:32.320 we're a society that doesn't

01:01:33.160 believe in traditional

01:01:33.800 masculinity traditional

01:01:34.860 masculinity is an opponent

01:01:35.940 because traditional

01:01:36.700 masculinity requires roles

01:01:38.340 it says that men are

01:01:39.900 supposed to protect and are

01:01:41.020 supposed to defend and are

01:01:42.240 supposed to be strong

01:01:43.040 men are supposed to be

01:01:43.840 fathers and husbands

01:01:44.680 these are apparently very

01:01:46.260 bad things now you're not

01:01:47.860 supposed to say these things

01:01:48.800 okay so Pete you've got

01:01:51.340 people like the intercept

01:01:52.460 somebody and Tom Nichols

01:01:53.720 just the worst he writes for

01:01:55.000 the Atlantic um suggesting

01:01:56.800 oh well the super masculine

01:01:58.500 unwoke Russian military is

01:02:00.460 getting its ass kicked so Ben

01:02:02.660 doesn't know what he's

01:02:03.380 talking about

01:02:03.980 you're right it's an army of

01:02:05.820 women in Ukraine that's

01:02:06.700 defeating the Russian

01:02:07.280 military they're all women

01:02:08.220 who knew it's like the

01:02:09.260 woman king in in Ukraine

01:02:10.460 there are there are no

01:02:11.080 masculine men in the

01:02:12.280 Ukrainian military

01:02:12.880 in fact Ukraine is famous

01:02:13.920 for its extraordinarily

01:02:15.220 progressive gender

01:02:16.020 policies like I'm sorry but

01:02:18.060 this baseline notion that a

01:02:20.700 quote-unquote feminized

01:02:21.640 military is a better

01:02:22.560 military I'm not saying the

01:02:23.880 ideal military is the

01:02:25.000 Russian military the Russian

01:02:26.020 military is obviously a

01:02:27.260 second-rate military and by

01:02:28.620 the way has been for nearly

01:02:29.520 all of human history they're

01:02:31.140 just a very very large

01:02:32.160 military but that doesn't

01:02:33.220 mean they're very effective

01:02:34.040 military but when you

01:02:35.520 actually spend any time I

01:02:36.940 noticed one thing that they

01:02:37.740 didn't do in any of these

01:02:38.580 critiques is actually go talk

01:02:39.860 to frontline soldiers in the

01:02:41.320 American military and actually

01:02:42.500 go talk to frontline soldiers

01:02:43.660 in the British military or the

01:02:44.880 Israeli military or any other

01:02:46.400 effective military on planet

01:02:47.500 earth because one of the

01:02:48.640 things that you will find when

01:02:49.680 it comes to effective

01:02:50.420 frontline military I spend an

01:02:51.640 awful disproportionate amount

01:02:53.300 of time hanging out with both

01:02:55.020 military people and ex-military

01:02:56.600 people is that these are not

01:02:58.360 people who disparage

01:02:59.280 masculinity these are not

01:03:01.200 people who believe that the

01:03:02.420 masculinity ought to be done

01:03:03.400 away with this doesn't mean

01:03:04.900 that the height of mask I mean I

01:03:06.320 literally say in that clip that

01:03:08.120 the goal of masculinity is

01:03:09.620 protective right that the

01:03:10.820 masculinity is about

01:03:11.980 evolutionarily speaking

01:03:12.940 protecting family protecting

01:03:14.080 hearth protecting home and you

01:03:15.600 need those traditional roles in

01:03:17.720 order to to foster exactly that

01:03:19.440 sort of attitude I fail to see

01:03:21.380 where I said that that

01:03:22.220 traditional masculinity and the

01:03:23.780 masculinity we need is sort of

01:03:24.820 this ultra macho Vladimir Putin

01:03:26.740 riding a bear shirtless kind of

01:03:27.880 stuff I love the jump from from

01:03:29.780 what I said to what what we

01:03:31.680 actually need is sort of Hulk Hogan

01:03:33.060 masculine that's not what I'm

01:03:34.320 saying at all what I'm saying is

01:03:35.360 that our military right now the

01:03:36.740 story that I was talking about

01:03:37.720 and that isn't available in that

01:03:39.280 particular clip when the media

01:03:40.300 matters put out there is the

01:03:41.440 part where I'm talking about

01:03:42.080 what actually happened which is

01:03:43.180 the the military basically now

01:03:45.020 saying that they should not use

01:03:46.180 terms like father and mother on

01:03:48.180 forms and I was saying well if

01:03:49.980 you're if your society

01:03:50.920 disparages the role of father

01:03:52.460 the role of protector the role of

01:03:53.940 husband then what exactly are men

01:03:55.640 doing in the military and

01:03:56.520 disproportionately it is men who

01:03:57.760 join the military I'm sorry to

01:03:58.820 break it to everybody but it

01:04:00.060 turns out that well over 90% of

01:04:02.280 people who are in the military

01:04:03.280 and pretty much everywhere on

01:04:04.920 earth at least in battle

01:04:05.980 positions in the military are

01:04:07.640 men because men are aggressive

01:04:08.960 because men are not opposed to

01:04:12.020 violence as much as women are

01:04:13.260 which is why also 99% of people

01:04:14.900 in prison for violent crime are

01:04:16.000 men like pretending that men and

01:04:17.420 women don't exist and that

01:04:18.820 warfare has not traditionally been

01:04:20.240 fought by men and currently is

01:04:21.700 not fought by men and that

01:04:22.740 therefore undermining

01:04:23.340 masculinity has no effect on

01:04:24.880 warfighting or morale is

01:04:26.340 absolutely absurd and everyone

01:04:27.800 knows this but if you say the

01:04:28.820 perfectly obvious these days

01:04:30.060 everybody goes berserk I mean

01:04:32.300 it's it's insane to me there's

01:04:33.800 another clip of me that went

01:04:34.600 viral over the last couple of

01:04:35.740 days in which media matters

01:04:37.040 found a clip of me and this is

01:04:38.380 a shocker I was talking about

01:04:39.540 Virginia bathroom policy in

01:04:41.540 which I said boys should go

01:04:42.960 pee pee in the boys room and

01:04:43.780 girls should go pee pee in the

01:04:44.560 girls room because boys should

01:04:46.160 not be in the girls room just

01:04:47.400 to say they are girls and

01:04:48.300 girls should not be in the

01:04:48.960 boys room because they can't

01:04:49.800 use the urinals right and and

01:04:51.380 this and and somehow this is

01:04:53.440 now considered everything is

01:04:54.840 now controversial because the

01:04:56.440 goal of the left is to change

01:04:57.900 the meaning of words and then

01:04:59.380 attack you based on their

01:05:00.420 changed meaning of the word so

01:05:01.620 when I say masculinity when I

01:05:03.080 say traditional masculinity

01:05:03.920 what you're supposed to hear

01:05:05.160 according to the left is men

01:05:06.500 engaging in me to type

01:05:08.300 predations that's what you're

01:05:09.380 supposed to hear and so if I

01:05:10.480 defend masculinity I'm

01:05:11.360 defending Harvey Weinstein

01:05:12.240 when in reality I say string

01:05:14.020 Harvey Weinstein up and also you

01:05:15.560 need traditional men in the

01:05:16.360 military you know I'm the

01:05:18.800 military one it it bothers me

01:05:21.560 because I very much would love

01:05:22.980 to be like yay you know pro

01:05:24.420 women we can do everything we

01:05:25.960 can't do everything and men

01:05:27.360 can't do everything and I'm

01:05:28.980 sure there are some women who

01:05:30.140 are tough and full of grit and

01:05:32.120 can get out there and I've

01:05:33.180 met some of them in you know

01:05:34.700 marine training camp but I

01:05:36.280 mean if we're talking about

01:05:36.920 generalities here generalities

01:05:39.020 would I rather have a an army

01:05:40.880 full of men or a Marine Corps

01:05:43.140 full of men or or full of women

01:05:45.440 if I had to choose one gender

01:05:46.760 of course I'd go with men I

01:05:48.280 would go with men and I was

01:05:50.200 making the pitches the other

01:05:50.960 day that they they told me down

01:05:52.240 at Camp Lejeune that the women

01:05:53.180 tend to be better like snipers

01:05:54.760 which I know Rob O'Neill is

01:05:56.160 gonna yell at me for but they

01:05:57.020 do apparently they're very good

01:05:58.120 at like controlling breathing and

01:05:59.120 there are certain skill sets that

01:06:00.200 women have an advantage on over

01:06:02.280 men on but the vast majority of

01:06:03.560 the military skills involve

01:06:04.580 strength endurance a man has a

01:06:08.180 larger heart he has a larger

01:06:09.260 lung capacity all the things

01:06:10.660 that give men the natural

01:06:11.540 advantages help make them better

01:06:12.720 soldiers in most of these tests

01:06:14.740 they have to face it doesn't make

01:06:16.720 me a sexist pig for f sake you

01:06:18.780 know it's like I am a woman I have

01:06:20.560 a daughter I don't want

01:06:21.640 disadvantages for her or for me

01:06:23.220 but let's be real let's be real

01:06:25.200 and again we're not I'm not what I

01:06:27.600 was saying there is not even

01:06:28.300 talking about something that for

01:06:29.700 sure is true which is there are

01:06:30.660 physical dichotomies between men and

01:06:32.100 women which is why most fire men

01:06:34.280 tend to be fire men as opposed to

01:06:36.020 fire women it turns out that women

01:06:37.700 who are generally smaller than men

01:06:39.160 have a harder time carrying a 300

01:06:40.480 pound obese dude out of a burning

01:06:41.720 building like yes all of that is

01:06:43.560 true also it happens to be that the

01:06:45.480 male instinct which is evolutionary

01:06:47.180 in nature I know that that everybody

01:06:49.000 on the left pretends they love

01:06:50.020 science as long as we are looking

01:06:51.860 at evolution men males tend to have

01:06:54.340 a protective mechanism in encoded in

01:06:56.740 their DNA and pretending that it

01:06:58.700 doesn't exist or undermining that

01:07:00.000 pretending that males don't have any

01:07:01.280 of these roles or that they should

01:07:02.520 be dissuaded from having those

01:07:03.700 protective roles that it's bad for

01:07:05.080 them to do that because it's somehow

01:07:05.900 sexist or somehow tapping into that

01:07:08.060 toxic masculinity is incredibly bad

01:07:10.140 for men it's incredibly bad for the

01:07:11.520 military it's incredibly bad for

01:07:13.080 society I don't understand why any of

01:07:15.180 this is remotely controversial I'm

01:07:16.440 not even saying women shouldn't be in

01:07:17.460 the military if they want to be in

01:07:18.480 the military I'm just saying that

01:07:19.840 when you undermine the idea of

01:07:20.820 traditional masculinity or when you

01:07:22.340 say that that it's it's somehow a

01:07:24.520 violation of womanhood to claim that

01:07:26.520 a very very basic role of a woman is

01:07:29.120 to be a wife and to be a mother just

01:07:30.440 as it is a very basic role for a

01:07:32.220 father to be a husband and to be a

01:07:34.360 father and to be a provider like these

01:07:36.960 are not controversial statements and

01:07:38.480 only in a society as stupid as ours

01:07:40.460 would they think it is because that's

01:07:41.940 the thing we're doing we're doing it

01:07:43.000 to women too there's no question that

01:07:44.820 we have thousands of years of

01:07:45.800 evolution that make women

01:07:46.800 caretakers not all of us not

01:07:48.820 everybody I get it not everybody's

01:07:50.120 got the gene um my it happens like I

01:07:53.420 know women who are super super over

01:07:54.820 the top with it and women who are

01:07:55.900 like my one friend has a great story

01:07:57.320 about how their first baby was born and

01:07:59.100 she and her husband were lying on their

01:08:00.160 bed and the baby kept crying kept

01:08:01.720 crying and kind of looking at each

01:08:03.640 other waiting for the other one to get

01:08:04.620 him and uh her the baby was a girl and

01:08:07.560 he looked at her and goes you know I

01:08:09.240 really thought you'd be more maternal

01:08:10.420 and she goes I know right and she just

01:08:12.840 rolls over and goes back to sleep so

01:08:15.420 it's a it's of course a rule but it

01:08:17.640 has many exceptions but we're kidding

01:08:19.500 ourselves if we this is why you know

01:08:22.260 women yes to recover from the birth but

01:08:24.560 also are given the maternity leave that

01:08:25.960 tends to be a lot longer than the

01:08:27.000 paternity leave except if repeat

01:08:28.520 Buddha judge but we're we're denying

01:08:30.520 reality if we suggest that there's not

01:08:32.560 an instinct that's been cultivated over

01:08:35.300 thousands of years that makes us certain

01:08:37.340 a certain way for women in a certain

01:08:39.160 way if we're men as a rule but with

01:08:41.960 exceptions all the data demonstrate this

01:08:44.280 by the way literally all of them I mean

01:08:46.100 when you look at the most gender equal

01:08:47.640 societies on earth you're talking about

01:08:48.880 Sweden if you're talking about Norway

01:08:49.940 one of the things that you find is that

01:08:51.500 women tend to go into the stem fields

01:08:52.900 less often in those areas than they do

01:08:54.820 in some developing countries where

01:08:57.120 basically if you're a woman you can get

01:08:58.860 the highest paying job and that highest

01:08:59.980 paying job is in stem you go into stem

01:09:01.220 but if you have the option to pick which

01:09:03.220 job you want to go into women in very

01:09:05.220 socially equal societies tend to go into

01:09:07.520 jobs they want to go into and those tend

01:09:08.680 to be jobs that deal with people jobs

01:09:10.060 that tend to deal with caretaking that's

01:09:11.960 not the end of the world that's kind of a

01:09:13.180 beautiful thing I mean I'm not I'm not

01:09:14.920 sure why it is that we're supposed to

01:09:16.240 pretend that men men and women are

01:09:18.260 identical and and I'm waiting for the

01:09:20.640 evidence to pour in that women are

01:09:21.880 massively happier when they buy into

01:09:24.020 this bizarre notion that men and women

01:09:26.320 are identical or that their interests

01:09:27.780 are absolutely identical one of the

01:09:29.080 great lies the feminist movement told

01:09:30.400 is that women can do everything

01:09:31.800 simultaneously no one can the one

01:09:34.160 finite quantity on planet earth is

01:09:35.880 time and that time is is not

01:09:37.940 infinitely divisible you have to

01:09:39.480 actually make decisions and trade-offs

01:09:40.840 which is why for example my wife the

01:09:42.620 doctor who is in a stem field right she

01:09:44.740 works a couple of days a week because

01:09:45.860 she likes taking care of the kids even

01:09:47.200 when she was in medical school she

01:09:48.320 took maternity leave twice because we

01:09:50.900 wanted to have kids and she wanted to

01:09:52.200 be home with those kids I took off like

01:09:53.620 a week you know that that's because she

01:09:55.460 wanted to do that that doesn't mean that

01:09:56.920 I'm not getting up with the kids at

01:09:57.880 six o'clock every morning I am getting

01:09:59.100 up with the kids at six o'clock every

01:10:00.280 morning and she usually sleeps another

01:10:01.720 half hour 45 minutes that's the way

01:10:03.360 that our marriage works but the the

01:10:04.900 simple weird idea that women are

01:10:07.260 supposed to be identical to men and

01:10:08.800 you cannot say that there are

01:10:09.700 traditionally masculine roles and

01:10:10.940 traditionally feminine roles and that

01:10:12.360 there are people who break those

01:10:14.360 right and and you can have

01:10:15.240 exceptions but there has to be a rule

01:10:16.680 in order for there to be exceptions

01:10:17.760 and when you destroy the rule you

01:10:19.240 don't make the world a better place

01:10:20.260 you make the world a significantly

01:10:21.120 stupider place yeah I was giving a

01:10:23.760 an interview a public interview

01:10:25.800 recently in front of I don't a few

01:10:27.240 hundred people and I was making this

01:10:29.160 point this very point about stem

01:10:30.640 about how it's great that we've

01:10:31.840 expanded now girls access to stem

01:10:33.360 education for the girls who want to

01:10:34.880 become scientists and that's awesome

01:10:36.100 however there are a lot of girls

01:10:37.720 who don't want to do that and then

01:10:39.160 these two sort of uber feminist young

01:10:41.260 people these women started to boo me

01:10:43.120 and I turn around I'm like be quiet

01:10:46.160 what do you who are you booing what

01:10:48.060 do you think you're doing what is

01:10:49.560 controversial about what I just said

01:10:50.980 that not all women want to go into

01:10:53.480 stem it's a fact deal with it and by

01:10:56.660 the way you're all of about like 14 so

01:10:58.600 go and live a little bit before you

01:10:59.720 come back and boo somebody like me

01:11:00.820 who's actually been out there right so

01:11:02.020 I didn't say that last part but I

01:11:03.340 thought it but my point is it's not

01:11:05.480 controversial to say that a lot of

01:11:07.000 women don't want to go into stem I

01:11:08.220 hell no I went to curriculum last

01:11:09.940 night for my son my seventh grader and

01:11:12.120 we went in a math class and truly I

01:11:14.300 was like is anyone else hot it's hot

01:11:16.180 like I was breaking out hives just

01:11:18.580 looking at the shit he's doing Ben

01:11:20.040 like I don't want to do math and I

01:11:21.940 don't want to do science and that's me

01:11:23.240 that's fine I would have been freaked

01:11:25.740 out if I had a school that kept

01:11:27.080 shoving me into stem

01:11:28.260 yeah I again this idea that that if

01:11:31.340 there is a disparity that therefore

01:11:32.900 there has been discrimination that

01:11:34.400 if women choose to take more time off

01:11:36.060 from the workforce to take care of

01:11:37.120 kids than men do on average which is

01:11:38.700 true or that women tend to do

01:11:40.120 different majors than men which is

01:11:41.860 true or that women prefer certain

01:11:43.320 types of jobs to others like you don't

01:11:44.680 see a lot of women who are who are

01:11:45.840 dreaming at age 12 of working on an

01:11:48.000 oil Derek this tends to be something

01:11:49.440 that dudes tend to want to do like

01:11:51.840 picking up heavy machinery and using it

01:11:53.400 like that that tends to be sort of a

01:11:54.660 male characteristic and it's true by

01:11:55.960 the way in primates right if you if you

01:11:57.720 if you look at primate studies what

01:11:59.060 you will see is that from very like

01:12:01.120 baby ages young primate males will

01:12:03.980 turn everything into a weapon or

01:12:05.860 machine and young primate females

01:12:07.900 will turn everything into a baby as a

01:12:09.640 generality that again what is I'm

01:12:12.380 just wondering what's wrong with that

01:12:13.540 like seriously what's the problem

01:12:14.980 why is it suddenly an active good to

01:12:17.440 obliterate this and pretend that this

01:12:18.680 is just some sort of cultural overhang

01:12:21.100 that is promoted by patriarchal men as

01:12:23.540 opposed to maybe men and women are

01:12:25.200 different and maybe that's one of the

01:12:26.080 great beauties of life and pretending

01:12:27.600 that everybody's an interchangeable

01:12:29.240 androgynous widget makes life

01:12:30.820 significantly worse for men and women

01:12:32.620 I keep saying it over and over and I'll

01:12:34.180 keep saying it there is no data

01:12:36.020 suggesting that women today are

01:12:37.480 happier on average than women were in

01:12:39.620 1975 or 1965 the average in fact

01:12:42.460 suggests precisely the reverse that

01:12:43.980 women tend to be a little bit

01:12:44.780 unhappier than they were well is that

01:12:46.580 because the workplace is

01:12:47.480 significantly more discriminatory or is

01:12:49.220 that because we may have given away a

01:12:50.760 few things in the process of gaining a

01:12:52.060 few things and maybe there's a happy

01:12:53.540 medium where women are allowed to

01:12:55.000 work whatever jobs they want to work

01:12:56.340 and also there are still traditional

01:12:57.700 males who want to marry them and have

01:12:59.020 babies with them and still see

01:13:00.180 themselves in a protective role vis-a-vis

01:13:01.780 their families

01:13:02.360 I want to round back before I leave

01:13:05.320 this discussion on the first half where

01:13:08.160 we're talking about what we're doing

01:13:09.060 to young men and the demonization and

01:13:11.220 what it's doing to them and an offshoot

01:13:13.700 of that is what happened to this kid

01:13:17.020 this teenager who was killed this

01:13:20.520 happened in North Dakota he was a

01:13:23.240 teenager he was killed in North Dakota

01:13:24.860 by Shannon Brandt a 41 year old man who

01:13:27.880 killed him after with his car after a

01:13:29.680 political argument the man justified his

01:13:32.420 behavior to the 9-1-1 dispatcher he's the

01:13:34.600 guy who killed the young man called 9-1-1

01:13:37.620 and said I did it because he was part of a

01:13:41.820 Republican extremist group and and we had

01:13:46.640 an argument we had a political argument and

01:13:48.820 I felt threatened so he admitted to striking

01:13:51.940 the pedestrian with his car because of this

01:13:53.540 political argument and he believed that his

01:13:56.560 target was calling people to come get him

01:13:59.460 there was absolutely no evidence of that the

01:14:03.320 victim 18 year old Kaler Ellingson was not as

01:14:06.940 far as we know part of any Republican extremist

01:14:08.760 group he was unjustifiably mowed down by this

01:14:12.280 man and as far as we can tell we don't even

01:14:15.480 know what whether they actually had any sort of a

01:14:17.560 political argument whatsoever here's the problem

01:14:19.840 Ben it's been totally ignored by virtually all the media

01:14:23.720 or or when they cover it they don't note who was killed

01:14:28.680 and what the partisan affiliations were so here's one

01:14:31.020 example Associated Press reported that it happened that

01:14:34.160 there was a quote political argument but did not identify

01:14:36.920 which side each was on left out that the assailant said he

01:14:41.180 thought the victim was part of a Republican extremist group

01:14:43.660 now you tell me if this were the other way around and it was some

01:14:48.180 guy wearing a MAGA hat that mowed down some Democrat right

01:14:53.420 somebody who was part of the resistance it would have been

01:14:55.760 mentioned in every city would have been all over the news and

01:14:57.760 it would have been and the partisan affiliations would have

01:14:59.420 been everywhere but this story newsbusters as of 921 ABC CBS

01:15:04.220 NBC CNN MSNBC all of them totally ignored this story not even one

01:15:09.180 second of airtime well if it had been reversed obviously would

01:15:11.880 have been blamed on your rhetoric or my rhetoric I mean the way this

01:15:14.660 would work is is that the the left picks on some of the most

01:15:18.500 egregious examples in public life they'll they'll pick a crime

01:15:21.040 and then they'll just wholesale basically say that that's based

01:15:23.900 on conservative rhetoric don't we need to crack down on this

01:15:26.620 sort of stuff when when it happens on the left we're not even

01:15:29.220 allowed to to talk about the incidents itself let alone start

01:15:32.380 asking questions as to why does this person's rhetoric seem to

01:15:35.160 mirror so strongly for example the MAGA extremist talk that we are

01:15:39.120 hearing from the White House which is precisely what happened if

01:15:41.880 the situation were were reversed and and this is not the only story

01:15:45.180 like this I mean we had an actual journalist killed in Nevada in

01:15:47.940 Las Vegas by a Democrat allegedly by a Democratic council member or

01:15:51.980 person who had just lost his seat because this this journalist was

01:15:54.480 investigating him and and in every headline it doesn't mention the

01:15:57.880 party affiliation of the person who allegedly committed the murder and

01:16:01.000 it's it's it's absolute insanity listen the most obvious example here is

01:16:05.300 that we have a full-on Senate candidate who is winning right now in

01:16:08.220 Pennsylvania who admits to having chased a black person in his car and

01:16:13.140 attempted to to hold him for arrest with a shotgun and because that

01:16:16.800 person is John Fetterman a Democrat this is not even considered a relevant

01:16:19.660 campaign issue beyond like one article in the New York Times six seven

01:16:22.640 months ago the the willingness of the media to ignore stories like this

01:16:27.900 the desperation honestly for the media to ignore stories like this so they

01:16:31.040 can continue to prep the narrative that the only violent people based on

01:16:34.140 politics in America are quote-unquote right-wing extremists is

01:16:36.840 absolutely telling remember what they did to Larry Elder with this the alleged

01:16:40.920 story of him taking out his gun and loading it in front of his girlfriend

01:16:44.460 that was all over the LA Times love that story they they love to do that it

01:16:48.080 doesn't matter Larry Elder's a black man because he's the black face of white

01:16:50.660 supremacy as they claimed so they can do stories like that about him but they're

01:16:54.100 not so interested in the 18 year old getting mowed down or the journalist as

01:16:57.120 you point out it's just a disgusting pattern and of course you know Joe Biden and

01:17:01.960 all the rhetoric about fighting the extreme MAGA Republicans you're not

01:17:05.840 hearing all that you know we're not hearing about how toxic that rhetoric was

01:17:09.700 and how it put this 18 year old in danger where this guy with a hair trigger

01:17:13.860 thought this kid was about to call reinforcements on some argument they may

01:17:18.200 or may not have been having but it was certainly not affiliated with any extreme

01:17:21.200 groups no they they'll just move on point the other way and start or continue

01:17:26.720 sicking the FBI on people who are associated with January 6th or dark MAGA

01:17:31.440 Republicans all right standby because there's much more to get to and I want

01:17:34.760 to want to talk about Ben's plans for the Daily Wire and for himself and coming up

01:17:39.260 in just a minute first though another of our memorable moments this one's from

01:17:42.200 episode 33 that sounds like just such a baby episode aren't we on like episode

01:17:45.840 400 now and that's December is today 400 yesterday was 400 so we're at 401 anyway

01:17:53.300 this is episode 33 December 2020 think about different the world was even back

01:17:58.200 then Andrew Sullivan joined us for the first time and while we talked about a

01:18:02.840 lot of serious topics we all spent a little time with Andrew explaining to me what

01:18:06.360 exactly bear week in Provincetown was listen basically at some point in the early

01:18:13.600 2000s there were enough openly gay men who were also middle-aged who were exhausted

01:18:20.220 uh because they kept being told they had to go to the gym and stay in shape and to be

01:18:24.800 attractive and they just couldn't be bothered and so they got kind of fat and

01:18:28.200 and they have and so it's basically a bunch of overweight uh middle-aged men with beards

01:18:35.680 and back hair who show up um to to just hang out with each other and eat pizza and drink beer

01:18:43.740 and hang out by the pool and and go to parties and and just chill and it's a you know it's i'll tell

01:18:50.320 you it is a lovely week people at those bears the big fat chubby hairy ones are so mellow and it's it's

01:18:57.120 they really are it goes on from there you will laugh

01:19:01.220 i'll never forget you know i announced that decision on meet the press on sunday morning

01:19:10.200 and then on monday went back to work in congress and just the look on the faces of my colleagues

01:19:17.180 who were coming and they're like you're giving me hugs and they were like tulsi

01:19:20.940 um i hope you realize what you just did uh the clintons keep a list they will never forgive you

01:19:28.100 hillary clinton will be elected president and um good luck because you have just written your

01:19:35.680 political kind of um this this this is a political death wish and and some of this was coming from

01:19:43.100 people who had you know endorsed president obama very early in 2008 and had directly experienced

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01:20:25.840 love tulsi gabbard she was on the show back in february of last year episode 69 a great conversation

01:20:34.220 you should go and check out uh more right now with my friend ben shapiro and ben tulsi is technically

01:20:41.080 a democrat but she's you know more center and um she took it on the chin and continues to from the

01:20:47.720 media another female politician in the news right now who's getting similar media treatment

01:20:52.980 um is the woman expected to be the new prime minister of italy georgia maloney who everything

01:20:59.320 i read is a far right new version of mussolini i mean it is like i'm like oh my god she must be

01:21:05.820 truly terrible what is she i don't pay much attention to italian politics but i'm like let's check it out

01:21:11.220 what she what is she touting that they are so upset about well traditional family values family

01:21:17.600 oriented social conservatism uh all right i'm waiting to be offended um she's she doesn't like

01:21:25.900 uh tons of immigration into italy saying it deprives nations and people of their identity

01:21:31.740 well if you have if you let too many immigrants in the country especially the illegal kind

01:21:35.900 it can be a problem um and then here's politico she is the most far right in the history of the post

01:21:42.520 mussolini republic oh and by the way they're upset that her party criticizes globalists this is also

01:21:48.120 a problem so what do we make of the rise of maloney in italy well again i mean what you're seeing right

01:21:55.040 now is an international backlash against what in the united states would call wokeness but is

01:21:59.640 essentially just sort of a multicultural leftism that has taken over a huge variety of countries

01:22:05.600 and elitist leftism that basically suggests the traditional values are passe that we need to do away

01:22:10.560 with them that open borders are worthwhile that that anybody who says the opposite is some sort

01:22:15.960 of fascist uh it well one of the look the telling thing here is that matteo renzi who's the former

01:22:20.960 liberal prime minister of italy he was asked about about this this maloney and he said she's not a

01:22:26.500 fascist i don't know what you're talking about but that was ignored in favor of joe biden who today

01:22:30.660 actually came out and said we have to we have to stand up for democracy by standing up because we

01:22:34.560 don't then what happened in italy is going to happen here and it's like oh you mean somebody was

01:22:38.100 elected i've noticed that the democrats very often are using threats to democracy to mean an elected

01:22:44.100 leader in a country and we just don't like the elected leader so victor orban is a fascist

01:22:48.800 authoritarian despite the fact that he won shock 52 percent in the last election cycle and when 52

01:22:53.940 percent in the last election typically by the way when dictators win elections it looks more like

01:22:57.960 the referendum that happened in denetsk luhansk under the russians right we're talking like 92 percent

01:23:03.100 98 percent like castro levels if you want a 52 to 40 48 election essential uh this does not make you

01:23:08.720 a in authoritarian if you are like maloney is in italy and you want a plurality not even a majority

01:23:14.240 this does not make you a dictator if you're the law and justice party in poland and you control like

01:23:19.620 some of the seats in parliament but not even a straight up majority of the seats in this does not

01:23:23.260 make you a dictator the the left it's something to watch it really is the shifting of the language so

01:23:29.800 that being anti-democracy just means being opposed to our agenda it's an amazing thing and and you

01:23:35.480 saw it a lot when joe biden gave that speech in front of independence hall where he suggested that

01:23:40.380 all of his opponents were extremist mega republicans who had to be fought because there were threats to

01:23:44.020 the republic a threat to democracy and he started off by talking about election denial and then he

01:23:47.880 immediately swiveled into also they oppose things like the inflation reduction act it's like okay well

01:23:51.900 hold up are we distinguishing between people who deny election results and people who just disagree

01:23:55.380 with you or are these all part of the same thing and i think what what the left is making clear

01:23:58.920 internationally is anyone who disagrees with us will now be termed a fascist and a threat to democracy

01:24:04.480 itself which is uh truly a shocking undermining i i wrote a column this week specifically about this

01:24:10.980 because we read the articles about whether it whether it's it's maloney in italy or whether you're

01:24:14.740 talking orban in hungary or whether you're talking bolsonaro in brazil the descriptions of the the

01:24:19.100 terrible horrible no good very bad things that they are doing on a procedural level sound a lot like

01:24:22.540 what democrats routinely do in the united states like there's an accusation that that orban has stacked

01:24:27.720 the supreme court in hungary or once or he's gone to war i think i think that the language was that

01:24:32.060 he has been ripping on the supreme court i'm like well that's joe biden every single day so it sounds

01:24:36.600 to me less like you're upset about institutions of democracy being attacked and you're a lot more

01:24:40.720 upset about what the people who are winning are saying about your policies they just don't like

01:24:45.140 those policies very much i saw you had a response to ellen barkin the actress ellen barkin who's who

01:24:50.820 said in response to this win in italy the news out of italy is frightening it really is

01:24:55.460 1933 except this time we are germany for fuck's sake vote hashtag i never forgot

01:25:03.500 so yeah she's i mean first of all i would just like to point out to her that if you're gonna make

01:25:09.580 a comparison with regard to italy i don't know why you'd go to 1933 in germany as opposed to say

01:25:14.580 1923 in italy which is actually when mussolini took over so she's got the wrong country

01:25:18.100 are you gonna make a mussolini comparison you actually have to look at mussolini that's a

01:25:23.660 totally different country with a totally different dictator so there there is that i mean just the

01:25:28.120 level of historic ignorance is amazing but what i keep coming back to is that you see left-wing

01:25:32.020 leaders across the world who do fully authoritarian things like jacinda ardern who is beloved of the

01:25:37.380 left you remember she's the prime minister of hobbiton right she's the prime minister of new

01:25:40.920 zealand and she completely shut off her little island and we were supposed to believe that this

01:25:44.820 is the best way to to fight covet because she happened to be on an island with like seven people and a

01:25:49.560 couple of sheep and she shut it and this was this is like the best she locked everybody down for two

01:25:53.560 years you couldn't get in you couldn't get out you couldn't move outside of your town and she was the

01:25:57.380 greatest just in order well she just spoke at the un and she called for a complete crackdown on dissent

01:26:02.100 on everything from coveted climate change on the internet she said that the internet creates the

01:26:05.980 ability for wars on on truth and so we really need to crack like that sounds like significantly more of

01:26:11.960 a danger to democracy than say maloney winning an election in italy but this is the the morphing of the

01:26:17.960 language is really an ugly thing and it's something that we we ought to watch out it's it also happens

01:26:22.220 to be true that the left has started to do this routine where they're emphasizing the thematics of

01:26:27.260 say the french revolution over the american revolution so again you saw this in joe biden's

01:26:30.360 speech that independence hall speech which again i think is a historically shocking and and ridiculous

01:26:35.620 speech but it has some deep themes that are worthy of note and in that speech he says that the things

01:26:41.420 that america is really all about are equality and democracy those are the two things that america is about

01:26:45.680 well actually this is a republic not a democracy right here the mob does not rule and if we are about

01:26:51.440 a couple of things it would be liberty and virtue and and republicanism it would not be about equality

01:26:56.500 and democracy which was mob rule in the name of mob justice which really was more like french

01:27:00.820 revolution that was the french sort of hijacking of these these these themes and this notion that

01:27:05.660 anyone who opposes me opposes democracy and therefore they're like the nazis they're like a dictator

01:27:09.940 and we have to fight them i don't know where the limit on that is and this is where you start to get

01:27:14.020 into actual dangerous language when you say that your enemy that your political opponents are

01:27:18.320 literally and i mean i'm old enough to remember because i'm more than two years old when donald trump

01:27:22.900 was ripped up and down for suggesting that journalists in the united states members of the

01:27:27.180 press were left-wing were enemies of the people remember this this is the end of the world there's

01:27:30.760 an attack on the free press now you have joe biden declaring half the american population enemies of

01:27:34.640 the republic right not just enemies the enemies of the republic itself if somebody is an enemy of the

01:27:39.960 republic typically we call them a traitor and that has real consequences to it so they're playing

01:27:44.260 with fire here i want to shift gears um a little bit because we're just getting this in from

01:27:49.560 president biden on uh hurricane ian saying that this could be the deadliest hurricane in florida's

01:27:55.300 history quote the numbers are still unclear but we're hearing early reports of what may be substantial

01:28:00.580 loss of life the pictures down there are just devastating ben i mean are you in florida now

01:28:05.820 i am thank god i'm on the i'm on the coast that really didn't get hit i i'm closer to to south

01:28:10.780 florida so this time it was spared but obviously we have you know friends and some family over in in

01:28:15.680 naples and and and the the west coast just got shellacked and it's it's a disaster area over there

01:28:21.300 obviously and you know that tends to be yeah it's it's it's really bad i mean you see the pictures

01:28:26.340 and you just you wonder how there could be any any survival in some of these areas the winds uh now now

01:28:32.760 it's a tropical storm just an update the winds have weakened to 65 miles an hour uh made landfall

01:28:37.340 on wednesday as a cat four i mean a state of emergency of course has been has been declared

01:28:43.160 it may regain by the way uh strength and go back up to a hurricane but uh it's you know sanibel

01:28:48.440 captiva all these places a lot of people have gone and you enjoy them as these beautiful vacation towns

01:28:53.520 i mean have just gotten absolutely devastated they are leveled um and it's just too soon to know the

01:29:01.020 death toll but that's the first we've heard from from an official on just how bad we expect it to

01:29:04.960 be my god our hearts and thoughts and prayers are with them and hopefully de santis and biden have

01:29:11.180 been coordinating so far in a good way you know i mean de santis was like stop stop trying to pit

01:29:15.720 against each other that's just petty got lives at stake so to his credit um they they do seem to be

01:29:20.880 working together just to shift it though um of course because we're on the subject of the media

01:29:25.460 so bad you can take it to the bank don lemon's going to do something stupid when there's a national

01:29:31.080 tragedy when there's not it really doesn't matter and it is a day that ends in y so he was trying to

01:29:35.620 cover this as the hurricane was moving in and people were worried you know i mean people are dying

01:29:40.460 and he's got um who wasn't it what was the official he's the hurricane center director

01:29:45.140 on with him and here's what happened this guy had to slap lemon down watch

01:29:50.080 can you tell us what this is and what effect climate change has on this phenomenon

01:29:56.820 we can come back and talk about climate change at a later time i want to focus on the here and now

01:30:03.200 we think the rapid intensification is probably almost done listen i just i'm just trying to get

01:30:09.040 that you said you want to talk about climate change but what what effect does climate change have on this

01:30:12.940 phenomenon that that is happening now because it seems these storms are intensifying

01:30:17.180 that's the question i don't think you can link climate change to any one event

01:30:20.780 on the whole on the cumulative climate change uh may be making storms worse uh but um to link it to

01:30:29.060 any one event um i would caution against them okay well they listen i grew up there and these storms

01:30:35.640 are intensifying something is causing them to intensify he's an idiot they're not they've been

01:30:42.760 very intense for a very long time we've had much worse storms come through since the 1950s

01:30:46.920 but he doesn't like to do homework he just likes to talk about his feelings and his his his feeling

01:30:52.360 is it's getting worse ben and therefore he wants to know whether his environmental agenda can be

01:30:57.220 affirmed as the storm was moving on to florida i mean i do love when when the the big fans of it to

01:31:03.720 science and spend their time trying to rebut actual climate scientists by saying well you know when i was

01:31:09.380 a kid i remember that the hurricanes were bad but now man they are so much worse yeah when you were a kid

01:31:14.520 all the adults look like they were eight feet tall it didn't mean they were actually eight feet tall

01:31:17.280 so there's that also i mean the data are actually in and and fairly clear which is that there's been

01:31:22.880 actually a slight decrease in the number of major hurricanes making landfall in the united states

01:31:27.220 over the course of the last century and maybe a slight decrease in the intensity one of the big

01:31:31.020 problems is that you have what is called the target effect as these hurricanes hit land because

01:31:35.800 the building and the population has grown the target that it's it's possible for it to hit has

01:31:40.200 also grown which means that it's likely to do more damage i mean when a hurricane hit 2 000 years ago

01:31:44.460 it didn't do any damage because there was nobody living there now you have millions of people who

01:31:47.540 are living along these coasts and that means that when the hurricane hits it's going to have a

01:31:51.300 significant impact on on human beings what is truly amazing about this is that the the media

01:31:57.320 will attempt to now paint anybody who does not attribute this to climate change this the intensity

01:32:02.120 of this this hurricane or this hurricane at all to climate change they will then attempt to say

01:32:06.180 that you are a climate denier but every climatologist will do exactly what that noaa official said

01:32:10.380 they will refuse to identify any data point with climate change because that's not how you do data

01:32:15.540 okay you're not supposed to i mean this is true because and you hear from the left that very often

01:32:19.960 you'll see people on the right and there'll be a blizzard and people on the right go hey what

01:32:22.900 happened to your climate change right where's the global warming and i'll say you can't use any

01:32:25.720 specific event as evidence for or against climate change you have to look at a trend because

01:32:29.820 climate is weather over time it's not a singular point and so when you see don lemon doing this

01:32:34.960 he's actually cutting very much against the science which is why you see him being roboted

01:32:38.060 by the noaa guy and all he can fall back on is well when i was a kid i used to live in florida well

01:32:42.260 okay florida man there it turns out there's 21 million people living in florida they all have

01:32:46.140 authority and they all have the same sort of opinions that you do that was his lived experience ben um

01:32:51.280 yeah noaa you know uh national organization i don't know what does noaa stand for noaa um they put out

01:32:57.540 the actual stats and here's what they say uh the historical atlantic hurricane data do not provide

01:33:05.360 compelling evidence for a substantial greenhouse warming induced century scale increase in

01:33:10.880 frequency of tropical storms hurricanes or major hurricanes or in the proportion of hurricanes that

01:33:15.860 become major hurricanes so no for no increase in frequency or intensity as a result of climate change

01:33:21.680 the noaa director national hurricane center um they were he was too polite to actually just shove

01:33:27.000 don lemon's nose in it and don just kept rounding back and kept rounding back because he wasn't

01:33:31.420 humiliated badly enough by the woman on reparations um that he just wanted to go at it again and that's

01:33:38.080 that's where we've landed uh all right so in the time we have left let me ask you about the empire

01:33:42.760 that is the daily wire you and jeremy boring building building it and they have come i love what you're

01:33:49.680 doing with jordan you've got candace now as part of the daily wire so what's next because you're

01:33:54.580 doing movies i mean like what's what is there left to conquer yeah so we have some children's program

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01:34:28.880 are in production right now we have some tv series that are in production and we're always looking to

01:34:33.140 add on new talent and expand because our basic goal here whether it is jeremy's razors right which is

01:34:38.720 the razor company that we launched directly to slap harry's razors in the face or whether it's for the

01:34:43.580 products our goal is to provide alternatives for people who are being deliberately cut out of the

01:34:47.600 cultural conversation and so we're going to continue to grow along those lines we're very

01:34:51.200 you know blessed we've been able to double the growth of our company nearly every year of its

01:34:54.120 existence and and last year was actually no exception uh and so uh hopefully we'll keep on

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