The Megyn Kelly Show - Best of the Week： Campus Chaos and Left Indoctrination, Tabloid Trump Trial, and Media Hypocrisy

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.140 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and our weekend special episode

00:00:16.700 where we look back at some of our best content for the past week. We had some great shows this

00:00:21.900 week, including my pal Piers Morgan on to talk about everything from the trial of Donald Trump

00:00:26.480 to Meghan Markle and her new lectures on friendship. Very few know this woman like Piers does.

00:00:34.600 And speaking of guests totally in their comfort zone, Heather McDonald was on this week and we

00:00:39.700 got into the leftist indoctrination at the center of the campus chaos we are seeing with anti-Israel

00:00:45.360 college students getting arrested in New York and beyond. We talked about the harassment of Jewish

00:00:50.400 students with the EJs, Emily Jashinsky and Eliana Johnson, and our pals Mike Davis and Dave Ehrenberg

00:00:55.960 we're here talking about the latest on Trump, specifically in this New York State Supreme

00:01:01.520 case that he's facing. But we also got into the ridiculous hypocrisy of NBC News when it comes to 0.63

00:01:08.780 quote, checkbook journalism and the use of NDAs, which suddenly those over at NBC find horrifying. 0.82

00:01:16.220 Who would use an NDA to silence a woman? Spare me. Not to mention Alec Baldwin's crackhead Barney

00:01:23.580 confrontation. Enjoy. And I'll talk to you on Monday.

00:01:29.140 I've got to ask you about Trump. He's facing four criminal trials. He's got a case being

00:01:33.760 argued before the U.S. Supreme Court right now. He's got the head of the National Enquirer, former

00:01:38.160 David Pecker on the witness stand right now talking about this deal they struck to cover up

00:01:42.820 for Trump and try to bury bad stories and promote good stories and hit his adversaries with negative

00:01:49.100 stories. First, let me just ask you, because you've spent your life in in news. I mean, you've been

00:01:54.640 writing for newspapers long before most people knew you on cam. So what do you make of this deal? And

00:02:02.260 would it ever have struck you that this was illegal? This kind of thing is illegal to accept money from

00:02:08.920 somebody or give money to somebody in order to quash their story or kill it, as the saying goes.

00:02:14.880 No, look, I ran two of the biggest tabloid newspapers in Britain for 10 years. And this

00:02:19.940 kind of deal in different ways goes on everywhere with all newspapers around the world. You know,

00:02:26.160 if you have a massive star and there's a damaging story about them and they want to suppress that

00:02:32.240 story, then sometimes they'll give you a better one about themselves to kill off the other one. Or,

00:02:36.300 you know, there's always some kind of deal that could be done. When I just realized this would

00:02:41.780 be the first case, Megan, that was going to come up with before, because some of them are clearly,

00:02:45.880 I think, more serious and more legitimate and better cases to answer for Trump than others. But this one

00:02:51.300 seems so petty. It seems so trivial. You know, ultimately, it's about whether or not Donald Trump

00:02:57.220 had a one night stand with a porn star 18 years ago in a Beverly Hills hotel. A, I don't care. I've

00:03:03.060 interviewed Stormy Daniels. You know, she's very plausible when you interview her. But I wasn't

00:03:07.900 in the room. I don't know what really happened. Donald Trump denies it. But I, yeah, exactly.

00:03:14.360 But either way, either way, I don't care. And I don't think most people care very much. And I

00:03:20.140 think that what's happened here, you've got a clearly politically motivated prosecutor who's a

00:03:24.660 paid up Democrat. You've got a judge who's obviously a Democrat as well. And they decided to throw the

00:03:30.900 kitchen sink at Trump by jacking up what should be just a state misdemeanor at worst into some

00:03:36.780 sort of huge seismic federal crime. Well, all the polling I've seen on this shows that most Americans

00:03:42.120 aren't buying this. They don't think that Trump committed a crime here. And they think it's a

00:03:46.560 massive overreach by the prosecution. So I think I heard you at the start, and I totally agree with

00:03:51.300 you. Whatever happens here, you know, a Trump may get acquitted, because there might be one member of

00:03:57.200 that jury that just goes, you know what, this is ridiculous. And demeaning, frankly, for America to 0.95

00:04:03.580 drag a former president of the United States, one of the 40, 45 people who held this incredibly high

00:04:09.760 office to drag them through such an unedifying and petty courtroom fiasco for weeks on end, when he

00:04:17.300 should be legitimately allowed to campaign as the nominee for the Republican Party for the next

00:04:23.260 elections. I think there's, for all sorts of reasons, this seems to me a ridiculous start to

00:04:29.140 this legal battle against Trump. But whether he wins or loses, you see, I think he either wins,

00:04:34.540 because one juror has common sense, or he loses, but actually gets martyred in the process.

00:04:40.360 So spectacularly, I watched the scenes this morning, going into court with people chanting Trump,

00:04:44.740 Trump, Trump, and four more years, four more years. I don't think this is hurting him. I think it

00:04:49.140 actually, over time, will help him. I think it's martyring Trump. And I think the most right-minded

00:04:54.340 Americans, who are not partisan on the left, but are sort of independent or moderates, will look at

00:05:00.260 this and go, is this really fair? And I always say, I mean, I remember when Bill Clinton was president,

00:05:05.560 and I remember paying Paula Jones, $850,000, whatever it was, to pay her off to settle a harassment 1.00

00:05:12.700 case. And I remember him having sex with an intern, Monica Lewinsky, in the Oval Office. 0.52

00:05:18.320 Both of those things are a lot worse, in my estimation, given he was a serving president

00:05:23.020 when the Monica Lewinsky thing happened, and given he did the payment when he was a serving president

00:05:28.760 to Paula Jones, than anything Trump did in the run-up to an election to basically get rid of a bit of a 0.94

00:05:35.020 messy story that probably his biggest concern was not the damage it might do to the election.

00:05:40.040 I think people factored in Trump and womanizing. It was probably he didn't want Melania to know

00:05:45.900 all about this.

00:05:46.920 But you know what, Piers, we've been covering this on this show. This is not well enough understood,

00:05:51.040 including even by us. I have legal panels on all the time. We're all lawyers, and we talk about this.

00:05:56.260 The relevant standard is not what was in Trump's head, or what his subjective reasons for the

00:06:01.860 payment were. It's the objective, objectively looking at the money. Could said money, in this case,

00:06:09.400 a hush money payment, have ever been used for anything other than to advance a campaign?

00:06:17.420 Is this kind of payment? You look at the nature of the payment. So if it is payment for, I don't know,

00:06:25.780 a podium at a debate, a lectern at a debate stage. Okay, yes, that is something you might only ever buy

00:06:32.860 for a debate, right, like for a presidential run. But a hush money, everybody pays that. You know,

00:06:37.860 as somebody who was in the tabloids for years, tons of people pay hush money payments. So that's

00:06:42.100 the standard. It's not even what was in Trump's head or whether they get an admission that this was

00:06:47.140 to help his electoral chances. It's irrelevant. Okay, last, I've got to ask you about this. Speaking

00:06:52.580 of martyrs and people who have been really unfairly put upon, let me ask you about Meghan Markle.

00:06:57.120 One of the great martyrs of our time. Poor thing. Her castle was so small.

00:07:08.440 She is apparently getting back into the podcast lane thanks to this far left pro women 1.00

00:07:14.060 Lemonada company. Richard Eden over in the Daily Mail, your old hot, has a piece today saying they're

00:07:20.740 struggling to get this thing out of the starting blocks. No podcasts are even expected anytime this

00:07:25.680 year and not until 2025. And the podcast, by the way, is going to celebrate the joys of cooking,

00:07:32.320 or at least something she's doing. Her Netflix show, I guess, is going to celebrate the joys of

00:07:36.880 cooking, gardening, entertaining, and friendship. She's going to be teaching us how to be a good

00:07:44.380 friend. I can't wait to find out from Meghan Markle what that's like. Well, it's one of the many

00:07:50.880 friends that she cut off, spectacularly, the moment she got a bit of royal action, along with her 0.99

00:07:57.520 entire family, of course, on both sides, apart from her mother. I don't think Meghan Markle's in any

00:08:02.160 position to be lecturing anybody about friendship. I mean, it always made me laugh at the Archer World 1.00

00:08:07.340 website, their charitable foundation. It says it's dedicated to compassion. I mean, it's hard to imagine

00:08:14.580 two people who've been less compassionate in the last few years to the ones around their loved ones

00:08:20.820 than these two, right? This is two people who trashed all their family, you know, whether it was her

00:08:26.820 father, or whether it's Harry's entire family at a time when Prince Philip and the Queen were both dying.

00:08:34.200 There they were on national television, from Oprah Winfrey to Netflix to whatever, you know, as the Spotify

00:08:41.300 guy put it, whatever grift they could get paid for, up they were trashing their families. So the idea

00:08:47.880 now that they're reduced, or that certainly Meghan Markle is now reduced from somebody who, you know,

00:08:53.360 remember Meghan, she had a fairytale royal wedding that was seen around the world. You know, the

00:08:59.060 carriages drawn down to Windsor Castle and so on. It was an amazing event. Everyone in this country,

00:09:04.960 I'm in the UK at the moment, everyone loved that marriage when it happened. There was universal support

00:09:10.300 for it, euphoria. It was only their behaviour in the first year of their marriage when they began

00:09:14.940 to behave rankly hypocritically, lecturing about poverty whilst having half a million dollar baby

00:09:21.340 showers, you know, to lecturing us about the need to watch our carbon footprint and using Elton John 0.64

00:09:27.180 and George Clooney's private jets like taxi cabs. And it was the constant hypocrisy that they got picked

00:09:33.500 up on by the media. And then they couldn't handle the criticism from the media. And then it all turned

00:09:38.540 hostile. Then they started suing everybody. And the whole thing got so toxic. Eventually,

00:09:42.200 they just say, we've had enough of this. We're not going to do any more dreary duties on a wet

00:09:46.560 Wednesday, which is what you have to do to earn your royal titles in the estimation of the public.

00:09:53.120 And they decamped off to Montecito, bought themselves a massive mansion. And they were supposed

00:09:58.400 to be doing it, Meghan, if you remember, this was going to be their liberation, their freedom.

00:10:02.700 And it was supposed to make them happy. I've never seen two more miserable people who've never

00:10:07.160 stopped whining and suing absolutely everybody in the pretense that this is because they found

00:10:12.660 their liberation and freedom. If you're so damn happy and free and liberated, shut up, 0.99

00:10:18.300 stop whining and complaining about everything. But they're obviously not happy. And it's obviously 0.99

00:10:22.340 been diminishing returns where when you trash your family again and again and again, eventually,

00:10:27.320 there's not much left to say. And people don't really want to hear it. It's like the Spotify guy

00:10:31.060 said, they're just a pair of grifters who just want to trash their family for loads of money 0.90

00:10:34.980 and not put a shift in to do proper work. You and I know how hard it is to do this kind 0.69

00:10:39.620 of thing properly. You know, it's a lot of work with a dedicated team. And you put the hours

00:10:44.940 in and you've got to be creative and high energy and really put graft in. These two wanted to do

00:10:50.120 massive deals with companies and then not do any work. Nobody wants to see her next podcast. 1.00

00:10:55.260 Nobody listened to the first one. And that's for this thing she's now doing with the ridiculously 1.00

00:10:59.880 long name that no one can remember. But she's going to try and be the new Marvel. 0.52

00:11:04.660 Whatever. I have to write it to American Riviera Orchard, C footnote 47

00:11:09.840 for the remainder of the name.

00:11:11.920 Right. And she's now got all her celebrity, you know, sort of B-list, C-list mates 0.99

00:11:15.560 putting out Instagram posts about her jam. And it's like, how the mighty fall.

00:11:20.520 This was a woman who had it all in this country, who literally had it all.

00:11:25.460 And he's now flogging jam from her kitchen in Montecito while her husband runs around

00:11:31.780 fuming about absolutely everything and everyone because he knows in his gut, he knows what he's

00:11:38.320 lost. And eventually those chickens will come home to roost. 0.99

00:11:43.120 And then she will be touting their eggs on her stupid website where she's wearing evening 1.00

00:11:48.220 gowns while walking around her mansion that we're supposed to feel sorry for because she's 1.00

00:11:52.920 in. I love it. But on the grifter subject, one of the funniest things that was Bill Simmons,

00:11:57.320 who said that at Spotify, I've never, never seen such a pair of grifters. 1.00

00:12:00.260 They wouldn't do any work. She got paid all this money. She barely did anything.

00:12:03.920 Him too. And now she signs this pod deal with his lemonada. We're not getting a podcast for years.

00:12:09.580 And then she decides to sign this deal with Netflix. She's done nothing other than now this

00:12:14.140 show she's going to do on cooking and friendship. Finally. Okay. We'll believe it when we see it.

00:12:18.660 And then finally, she's got her little Riviera thing going, where so far we've had one jar

00:12:26.040 of strawberry jam. 0.99

00:12:30.060 It's sort of lazy and a bit pathetic. You know, this is somebody who demands that we use the title 0.96

00:12:38.220 Duchess of Sussex. I come from Sussex, which is a county in the south of England. I've spent more time

00:12:44.740 in Sussex in the last month that Meghan Markle has spent in her entire life.

00:12:49.220 She has no actual right.

00:12:50.520 She's your ruler, Piers. I didn't know that she's your... 0.89

00:12:53.120 She ain't my ruler, Meghan Kelly. She is somebody who, listen, as I've said to you,

00:12:59.120 I think many times before, if they actually want to do this kind of thing and trade themselves

00:13:04.060 around as sort of, you know, celebrities and do that sort of circus, then they can do it.

00:13:09.920 But they can't do it with the royal titles. They shouldn't be using the royal titles of

00:13:14.120 Duke and Duchess of Sussex. They're stowed on them by the monarchy, an institution they

00:13:18.260 constantly complain about and trash whenever they get the chance. Fine. If you want to go

00:13:22.420 off and be celebrities in California, do it. But don't trade on the titles. Every time I see

00:13:26.880 her demanding to be called Duchess of Sussex, I laugh. Nobody in Britain calls her that.

00:13:32.080 Meghan Markle. You know, she got lucky, met her prince, dragged him out of the bosom of his

00:13:37.360 family, dragged him away from the monarchy, which bestowed those titles on them, and has

00:13:41.980 now ruthlessly, with him, exploited those titles for massive personal gain. And I think

00:13:47.600 it's disgusting and hypocritical. They shouldn't be allowed to do it. I hope that King Charles, 0.99

00:13:52.220 who obviously is massively distracted by his illness, but I hope that King Charles at some

00:13:56.120 stage just has that conversation and says, you can't keep the titles, I'm sorry, but you

00:14:00.880 can't keep demeaning the status of being a member of the royal family and attacking the

00:14:06.000 family and the monarchy and retain your titles. You can just be Harry and Meghan. And see how you

00:14:11.500 get on, by the way, when you're no longer royals, because the answer is not very far.

00:14:20.640 In the video we're going to show you here, Yale students formed a human chain to block a Jewish

00:14:27.180 student from entering the university. Like, I can't believe this is happening in America. Watch this.

00:14:36.000 You're literally touching us. Don't get in my way. I'm allowed to walk.

00:14:39.500 I'm allowed to be here. That's right. I'm just trying to walk around. Let me walk around.

00:14:47.200 You can walk to us. We're here. Don't get in my way.

00:14:50.560 All right. So it looks to me like a conservative Jewish person. Um, he's obviously openly Jewish

00:15:08.140 and they're not letting him pass. The mob follows him. He moves left. They move left. He moves right.

00:15:13.360 They move right. As a, as a swarm. And they're not letting him, this is America. This is,

00:15:19.540 this cannot happen at Yale university. Didn't you go there early on?

00:15:24.560 I'm a 2006 graduate and the beacon also had a reporter, um, up there covering the events as

00:15:33.020 they transpired on Friday and Saturday, where just much like at Columbia, the students were

00:15:38.220 camped out in tents, um, on a university plaza. And it is noteworthy that these events took place

00:15:45.300 at a world war II Memorial to Yale students who served in the wars and tore down an American flag,

00:15:52.040 um, and cheered as it was brought to the ground at that Memorial.

00:15:56.720 We actually have that. Here's a bit of it. It's not seven.

00:16:08.400 Tearing down the American flag. That's what they're cheering at folks.

00:16:14.340 I'm sorry. I'm sorry, but that weird, like I, it's like a part of the call to prayer that sound

00:16:19.900 I've heard it in too many terror videos. It still brings a chill. When I hear it, it's alarming.

00:16:25.780 And to see it, to hear it yelled when an American flag falls on one of our most prestigious,

00:16:34.940 or at least used to be university campuses, Eliana brings up something very like vile. I mean, 0.61

00:16:42.020 it just, it, I recoil, I can't believe this is not free speech. This is not about free speech.

00:16:51.300 These people are calling for the death of Jews. They're tearing down American flags on American 0.95

00:16:56.920 university colleges. And we're just sitting back saying, you Jews go ahead, Eliana Shredfield,

00:17:02.900 perfectly comfortable going to class and crossing their little picket line as the mob swarms in front

00:17:08.460 of you tearing down a flag, our flag to say, no, try it. We dare you. Yeah. At a memorial for young

00:17:17.280 men who went and fought and died fighting the Nazis. It's insane. And it's noteworthy that 0.96

00:17:27.120 administrators issued warnings on Saturday, but did nothing. And at late Saturday evening,

00:17:35.380 a young Jewish student, a young woman was sent to the hospital when one of these protesters poked her

00:17:40.700 in the eye with the Palestinian flag. And this morning, the police were called in to start arresting

00:17:49.180 people. It must be Yale university's president, Peter Salovey announced a year ago that this would

00:17:55.440 be his last year. They are looking for a new president. And so I think that has motivated him

00:17:59.880 to take a more hands off approach. This is not his problem. It's the next person's problem.

00:18:03.700 However, he must be watching what is taking place on the Columbia university campus and thought,

00:18:09.980 I've got to start clearing this out. But if these guys don't know already that the response to this

00:18:15.320 is not to issue warnings and stand by as people start to get hurt as private property, private

00:18:21.520 university property is desecrated. Rules are broken. University entrances and exits are blocked from

00:18:27.660 students. You know, warnings are not enough time to start calling the cops. I listened to a recording

00:18:33.680 that we were not authorized to share that a student took of her call to the Yale university

00:18:39.680 police department where the police officers told her, we are concerned. We have not been authorized

00:18:46.460 by the university to do anything yet. That obviously changed overnight, but 48 hours, this went on.

00:18:53.500 Students were hurt. Property was desecrated. People were not allowed to pass freely through campus.

00:19:01.020 Enough is enough. You know, you don't have a right to attend Yale university.

00:19:07.700 Time to, you know, students to be expelled. Yeah, honestly, I would expel them and I would do

00:19:13.140 whatever I had to do to get them off campus. I, whether it's cops, national guard, we have to get

00:19:18.000 dramatic. This cannot be allowed. This is not about free speech. You know, where you can go have perfect

00:19:22.920 free speech rights out in the town square. Emily, you know, you mentioned it earlier. Free speech is

00:19:29.120 important. Yes. No one's saying they're not allowed to scream this hateful shit. That is the glory of

00:19:35.060 being an American. You can scream hateful shit unless it amounts to incitement. But you, you have 1.00

00:19:40.740 limited free speech rights when it comes to the center of the campus square. And this has gone beyond

00:19:46.060 that menacing that they're doing to the Jewish student that we just showed there. That's illegal.

00:19:50.460 You can't do that. That is not okay. Wherever you are, it's certainly not okay on a college campus.

00:19:56.060 I don't like when, and no, you weren't doing this, but when people try to reduce this kind of behavior 0.99

00:20:00.040 to free speech, it's bullshit. That's not what this is. So we need to be really clear on acceptable 0.95

00:20:07.520 behaviors. And all you need to do is picture a bunch of whites doing this to a black student 0.97

00:20:13.940 about 40 years ago and ask yourself whether you defend it.

00:20:19.720 A reporter got kind of trolled on Twitter over the weekend. I want to say she was from the New York

00:20:23.960 Times or the Washington Post for saying she was there. And what she saw at Columbia was, you know,

00:20:28.600 a lot of, you know, a lot of that crazy stuff was happening.

00:20:31.000 Tia. She's the one who blocked me. She, I used to follow her and then she cheered. 0.96

00:20:36.780 This is what resistance looks like after a bunch of Israel babies and women and children were 0.94

00:20:42.800 murdered. And I was like, okay, it's over between the two of us, but she's out there. So she's a

00:20:48.440 Washington Post columnist who is out there. Hold on. I pulled it. Oh, here it is. Okay. Just to add

00:20:54.180 to what you're saying, and then I'll give you back the floor. I, I teach my last class of the

00:20:59.520 semester at Columbia this coming week. God help them. That explains a lot. And the university has

00:21:04.980 made this situation into a war zone. Well, so far we agree, but we disagree on how it's by them

00:21:13.180 permitting these protests in the first place. No, she says most of the people posting about

00:21:17.900 Columbia have not stepped foot on campus and have no idea what's going on. As I said,

00:21:21.520 the demonstrations I saw last week were comprised of students of all faiths and backgrounds.

00:21:27.080 Columbia escalated the situation by calling an armed police. The ones I saw, Hitler's always 1.00

00:21:32.740 been very nice to me, Emily. All I saw was a perfect gentleman who was a very talented public

00:21:38.840 speaker. That's what she's doing here. I didn't see any problems. Oh, then none must've existed,

00:21:44.160 Karen. Well, it's insane to put the burden just on the university for the actions of the students.

00:21:50.220 I mean, I agree. Like, I think we all agree. The university is doing too little. Um, so yes,

00:21:55.280 she's right on, on that point. I guess she wants the university to do too much, but like some of this

00:21:59.400 is the university's fault, but you're seeing so little of people hold, holding people who are

00:22:06.300 organizing these protests, uh, people who are, you know, peacefully participating in legitimate

00:22:11.500 civil disobedience. They are not being asked to take control of the situation because to the extent

00:22:17.780 that Karen Atiyah is allowed to teach whatever nonsense she's teaching in that class, clearly 1.00

00:22:23.040 Columbia university is letting people make these arguments, these ridiculous arguments that Hamas 1.00

00:22:28.600 is the resistance, something Judith Butler has said before as well. Clearly those arguments are

00:22:33.480 happening just fine. In fact, they're being facilitated and encouraged by these universities.

00:22:37.480 And, uh, you know, I think those arguments are ridiculous and wrong, but universities are obviously

00:22:42.940 teaching them, but nobody is saying to the students that are organizing these protests, 0.90

00:22:47.720 the burden is on you to reel back the violence, the calls for Israel to die. The people holding

00:22:54.980 signs that say Al-Qassan's next target pointing at Jewish students. If you organize a protest,

00:23:00.900 you should be held to account when things get out of control. How many times have we heard this exact

00:23:06.640 same argument made about people on January 6th, you know, or they, they point the finger at Donald Trump,

00:23:11.380 even though he said, go protest peacefully. And I think to some extent that's reasonable,

00:23:14.660 uh, but it's the same thing. You, but there's nothing in this case. Nobody's saying, Hey,

00:23:19.180 those students that are organizing this, they really need to step up and tell those other people

00:23:23.600 to cut it out because they don't, in some cases want those people to cut it out.

00:23:28.100 No, God, they're leading them. I mean, it's, I mean, like, I think we could all agree if they

00:23:33.420 were having a protest on campus or even a sit-in, if it weren't, you know, incredibly disruptive and,

00:23:38.440 you know, that's really the test disruption under Supreme court precedent. But if they were having a

00:23:44.220 protest and chanting something like Israel's committing genocide, okay, I, that's an opinion. 0.90

00:23:50.800 Many people have it. You, that isn't okay, but threats, threats against Jewish students are not

00:23:58.420 okay on a college campus. That's just crossing a line that they would never allow anyone else to

00:24:04.660 cross. Um, and it's insane that these Jewish families now have to worry about these schools

00:24:10.620 at which they spend almost $70,000 a year in tuition. I think it is 67,000, I think for Columbia

00:24:16.160 now at last check, I've got to talk to you about Ilan Omar's daughter, Eliana, because she's made 0.99

00:24:23.540 herself a public face of these protests. You're shocked, shocked. I know. And she's at Barnard,

00:24:31.860 which is right next to Columbia and is participating in this sit-in, this nonstop off again,

00:24:37.820 I guess it is a more accurate term, but pernicious sit-in and she, along with the other students who

00:24:44.780 are not complying with the police directives and so on, um, came out, got the full Vogue.

00:24:51.200 Is it teen Vogue, uh, treatment? It's always teen Vogue. It's always teen Vogue. And, um,

00:24:57.360 is, look, here she is. She's such a hero. Uh, the headline,

00:25:04.980 Ursa, or Isra Hirsi, Ilan Omar's daughter on Columbia arrests, Barnard suspension,

00:25:11.200 Palestine protests. The subtitle is the longtime social justice activist and Barnard Jr. 21 talks

00:25:18.300 to Teen Vogue about the 48 hours following Columbia University's decision to send NYPD into

00:25:23.200 a campus Palestine solidarity encampment. That's not exactly how it went down, but she

00:25:30.960 decides to paint her time there as like, she was basically just kicked out of the last homeless

00:25:40.580 shelter in New York with no food and no roof over her head and says as follows. Uh, we were reading

00:25:48.680 our email and it said we had 15 minutes to go get our shit if we wanted it and we'd have to go with 0.98

00:25:54.360 a public safety escort. I was like, I'm not going to do that. But I was a little frantic. Like, where 0.97

00:26:00.800 am I going to sleep? Where am I going to go? And also all of my shit is thrown into a random lot.

00:26:08.580 It's pretty horrible. I don't know when I can go home and I don't know if I ever will be able to, 0.95

00:26:14.660 I mean, could you spare me? You're like, I've only got crocodile tears for this person who was

00:26:22.160 out there leading all this shit. And then to double down, she goes, of course, on MSNBC and 0.99

00:26:27.780 listen to this. Now I want the audience to pay particular attention to something we discussed last

00:26:32.940 week, which is her reference to the alleged chemical weapons that she claims were deployed

00:26:40.420 against her. We know the truth. Thanks to the Free Beacon, Eliana's publication. Listen.

00:26:46.700 Do you feel that you are being targeted because of the fact that it is in solidarity with Palestinians

00:26:52.120 and against what Israel is doing to Palestinians? Oh, this is 100% targeted. Every single protest that

00:26:58.180 we have, there's a group of counter protesters that bring all of their items, their flags and things

00:27:02.880 like that. And they're not seen as having unsanctioned protests or really receive the kind of

00:27:07.240 disciplinary warnings that many of our fellow organizers receive just for being seen at these

00:27:12.440 protests. And so there is definitely some hypocrisy here, especially you can kind of see it with the

00:27:18.320 students that were that were sprayed us with the chemical weapons and the fact that there is no

00:27:23.500 public information as to what happened to them, but rather the university is actively discussing what

00:27:28.260 is happening to the students here and making it a whole public spectacle rather than when we haven't

00:27:33.800 done anything to physically harm students, whereas those that sprayed those chemical weapons physically

00:27:39.240 harmed students. Care to comment on that, Eliana? Let's just start with the facts. The chemical weapon 0.77

00:27:48.840 in question was a fart spray purpose purchased on Amazon for $26 called Liquid Ass. Okay. And

00:28:00.220 I really have that New York State Supreme in the Trump trial too. Yeah. And she says,

00:28:06.860 nothing happened to these students. These students who sprayed that were suspended,

00:28:13.300 which is why they are now suing Columbia University for accusing them of spraying a chemical weapon.

00:28:20.920 They were suspended immediately. Columbia President Manu Shafiq testified before the Columbia University

00:28:28.240 Senate and said that these students had used chemical weapons. These students were former IDF

00:28:35.080 soldiers and then came to Columbia. So she spread this misinformation and the fact that this was not

00:28:42.400 any kind of chemical weapon, but in fact, this harmless fart spray purchased off Amazon surfaced in their

00:28:48.660 lawsuit where they are litigating their suspension. So what she said that we can't protest,

00:28:55.440 but they can, and nothing happens to them, um, is total and utter bullshit. 0.99

00:29:02.280 She's on MSNBC and got a spread in T-Vogue. They got suspended and she got a slot on MSNBC and T-Vogue. 0.98

00:29:08.280 Our protests appear to violate the policies. Either the protests violate the policies or they do not.

00:29:14.640 Her protests, her behavior violated the policy. Um, beyond that, her mother, uh, let's, you know,

00:29:24.360 Apple doesn't fall far from the tree, uh, was questioning the Columbia University president

00:29:29.100 weighing in on behalf of the protesters and never disclosed to the American public that her daughter

00:29:34.920 is one of the protesters who's going to suffer the consequences. Uh, one would think,

00:29:39.140 at least in the interest of propriety that, uh, representative Omar would say, you know,

00:29:44.300 my daughter's on the campus and she's one of these agitators and no, no, no, no. She didn't say

00:29:49.360 a word about that. Um, but, uh, in the interest, Omar was actually the one who got president,

00:29:56.380 Columbia president Shafiq to say, there are no anti-Jewish protests that I've seen and allowed.

00:30:01.480 Was she? Oh, you're right. She was the one who asked the question. Um, have there been anti-Muslim

00:30:06.860 protests? Shafiq said no. She said, have there been anti-Jewish protests? Shafiq said no. And then,

00:30:12.160 um, Elise Stefanik stepped in and said, I'm sorry, you testified that there have been no anti-Jewish

00:30:17.380 protests. Would you consider death to Zionists? Is that anti-Jewish? And Shafiq had to backpedal and

00:30:22.880 say, oh, actually death to Jews. Um, they weren't labeled anti-Jewish. Like when the notice that they 0.97

00:30:29.960 were happening went out, they just, you know, all did that in, in, they just evolved in that

00:30:34.720 direction. And then her three co-panelists, the chairman of the board of trustees, Jay Carney's

00:30:39.860 wife, Claire Shipman, and, uh, David Skizer, Shizer, whatever his name is. They all said,

00:30:45.240 they all contradicted Aaron said, of course, there have been anti-Jewish protests on this campus.

00:30:49.360 Um, so anyhow, um, you know, she, what she said is a total and utter lie.

00:30:54.920 I think we're being too hard on Ilan Omar's daughter who let's face it for a brief period of

00:30:59.800 time. Her uncle became her stepdad when her mom married her brother. So it's, you know,

00:31:05.940 that kind of stuff can cause lasting damage, which can manifest itself in a number of ways.

00:31:11.180 Emily, I'll tell you why the campus cops are not throwing the Israeli protesters off campus.

00:31:19.020 It's pretty clear. It's depicted, for example, in this soundbite from Columbia with the Jewish

00:31:25.340 students sought for. They're singing, they're waving American flags and Israeli flags.

00:31:43.720 They're not covering their face. No face is covered. This is why they don't get bothered,

00:31:50.980 Emily. They're not doing anything. And I realize Israel right now is in the midst of a bombing

00:31:57.220 campaign against a group that attacked it viciously on 10-7, which is controversial. But these students

00:32:04.200 are getting protested. These Americans are getting harassed.

00:32:09.060 It's been amazing to me to watch since 10-7. Some of these liberal Jewish Americans have the light bulb 1.00

00:32:21.720 go off on top of their head. I'm thinking of, for example, Bill Ackman, right? This billionaire

00:32:26.560 investor. And he's been very outspoken about now DEI on college campuses. And I appreciate people like

00:32:34.360 Bill Ackman, who's got power and influence and a lot of money joining the fight. But there are many

00:32:39.220 who have been fighting this with every fiber of their being for years, like you, hello, and have

00:32:46.260 been called every name in the book without any support from people like Bill. And it's like a great,

00:32:54.740 you know, pick up arms, rhetorical arms and fight right alongside of us. But some humility for the fact

00:33:01.000 that you missed it all while it was happening, in my view, is in order.

00:33:06.820 Absolutely. And again, the Jewish donors that have finally woken up, don't let it end here. Don't be 1.00

00:33:14.840 bought off with, oh, we're going to add anti-Semitism training to the portfolio of DEI. That was Bill

00:33:21.260 Ackman's original proposal when this all started. And he said he was so shocked that Jews weren't

00:33:28.100 included in the marginalized groups against the majority on campus, you know, as if the majority,

00:33:33.860 there is no majority on campus. The one victimized group that's on campus these days is heterosexual

00:33:39.540 white males. They are screwed. They are the last to be hired, the last to be admitted. They have to 1.00

00:33:46.260 be three times as good. Of course, the Asians have to be 10 times as good as anybody else. But if you're 1.00

00:33:50.080 a heterosexual white male, forget it. It's over for you. But Ackman's initial position was, 0.99

00:33:55.560 well, gee, you know, the Jews are oppressed by this somehow phantom white wasp majority. 0.98

00:34:02.760 He gave that up. There's still a lot of people holding on to that. And it's frankly hilarious. 0.95

00:34:07.680 I mean, these protest signs of queers for Palestine just shows how fundamentally ignorant 0.99

00:34:13.380 Americans are about the world. They live in a bubble of victimhood. So they apparently don't even know 1.00

00:34:21.480 how people in Muslim countries or in the Middle East, Muslim Middle Easterners treat queers. Good 1.00

00:34:30.280 luck holding a gay pride march in Gaza or on the West Bank. Good luck doing that in Nairobi. Good luck 1.00

00:34:38.200 doing that in Africa. So the intersectional coalition is now, it's holding together fine,

00:34:46.420 except for Jews. And of course, Jews should be really kind of miffed about this. They were essential

00:34:54.620 to the civil rights movement. They were essential to the anti-apartheid movement. And blacks are 0.92

00:35:00.260 screwing them over. You have South Africa dragging Israel into the world court for genocide, which is 1.00

00:35:05.820 a preposterous claim. And you have the majority black politicians now siding with their Palestinian 0.97

00:35:12.800 brothers in victimhood. This is ridiculous. And claiming that Jews are somehow the main threat 1.00

00:35:19.780 to blacks and to Palestinians. All of this is complete fiction. So this, again, should be a movement to 0.99

00:35:30.020 basically shut down as much of the universities as we can, create as many alternatives as we can,

00:35:36.000 and for people to speak up for Western civilization, which has given us the very foundational ideas

00:35:43.420 that the left uses against the West. Equality, tolerance, human rights, limited government.

00:35:50.880 These are all exclusively Western ideas. They came out of no place outside of the West. They didn't come

00:35:58.020 out of Africa. They didn't come out of China. They didn't come out of Arabia. They didn't come out of 0.84

00:36:04.480 India. And now the left uses the bounty of beautiful enlightenment ideas to try and tear down the 0.69

00:36:17.380 enlightenment. There is something sick in the West right now. We are a self-canceling culture.

00:36:23.800 The great replacement theory is real. We have decided to destroy our birth rate and to flood our country 0.99

00:36:32.260 country with cultures that in mass on mass are not compatible. We cannot assimilate the number of 1.00

00:36:41.280 people who are coming. And we've decided we don't even want to try. And of course, the most galling

00:36:46.580 thing, Megan, is that the left in the morning says the U.S. and Europe are the most oppressive places

00:36:54.300 on earth. They are fundamentally hostile to people of color. Their grounding ideology is one of white 1.00

00:37:02.820 supremacy. That's their line in the morning. And in the afternoon, they say any country that does not

00:37:09.960 have open borders, any Western country does not have open borders to allow as many millions of people

00:37:16.800 want to come from third world places of color that the West is then oppressive. You can't have it both 1.00

00:37:24.660 ways. You can't say that the West is endemically lethal to people of color and at the same time say

00:37:31.640 we want as many people of color to come in illegally into Western countries as possible because that's where 1.00

00:37:39.720 their lives will be improved. Make up your mind. You get one or the other. You either say the West is

00:37:47.240 racist or you get to say everybody comes in. You can't say both. That's right. Or as they now put it,

00:37:53.800 it's not safe for brown and black bodies. It's not safe for brown and black bodies. This discussion is 0.99

00:38:00.560 reminding me of a couple of headlines I retweeted today from the Babylon Bee, which is always great

00:38:04.460 in these situations. Here's one. Columbia protesters clarify they only want death to America after

00:38:10.360 America is done paying their student loans off. Yes, exactly right. Here's an there's another one

00:38:17.220 Palestine, Palestinian protester or Palestine protester tries to argue with skinhead, but they just agree on

00:38:23.580 everything. That's right. The Jews are bad. Yeah, same. I feel the same. And then there's a Columbia student 1.00

00:38:29.920 Lee leaves lecture on microaggressions to attend kill the Jews rally.

00:38:38.080 Well, you know, again, it's all continuous. If you feel like you are the victim of microaggressions

00:38:45.820 on campus, and that is that that claim of the victimhood has catapulted you to the top of the

00:38:52.540 victim totem pole, you have a lot of power and you get drunk with power. And, you know, the you

00:38:59.580 started making with the Columbia administrators sort of tiptoeing around the tents and saying,

00:39:06.360 well, we're getting another 48 hours. That's because at the same time as we have this, this profoundly

00:39:12.380 radical and hate filled ideology of sort of make believe radicalism and Marxism on college campuses,

00:39:21.020 you have at the same time, the very epitome of a capitalist ideology, which is the student as

00:39:26.360 consumer and adults creating the, you know, the climbing walls and the Starbucks cafes at every

00:39:34.700 corner on on on college campuses and redoing the the the dormitories to have every amenity.

00:39:42.320 You know, I visited Yale several years ago. And in the Berkeley dining hall, they had they had

00:39:48.160 tastings of different extra virgin olive oils from Italy. And at the same time, you know,

00:39:54.180 the Yale students, the minority students are out there claiming that there's they're so victimized

00:39:58.880 there. They're throwing tantrums against the renowned sociologist Nicholas Christakis telling

00:40:05.320 him to shut up. And, you know, who the fuck invited you? Because we as black students are so victimized 1.00

00:40:11.720 at the same time, they have olive oil, virgin olive oil tastings. It's a it's a profoundly decadent

00:40:18.160 environment that is about anything but knowledge. These students should be down on their knees in

00:40:23.240 gratitude. Yeah. Here's the New York Post on what we're seeing at your alma mater, Yale, where you went

00:40:30.300 undergrad decrying capitalism while munching on fresh sushi. Well, while supposedly, by the way, engaging in

00:40:40.860 a week long hunger strike. So, OK, pick a lane and then they go on to write. But the festive atmosphere

00:40:47.060 continued even after some were arrested as some protesters paired off to do some salsa dancing.

00:40:53.380 Wide smiles plastered on their faces as they took a well-deserved break from denouncing free enterprise

00:40:59.420 and their university. Eighty five thousand dollars a year to attend.

00:41:06.060 Where do you begin? I mean, these are the most spoiled people in human history. You know, we thought

00:41:13.520 that the monarchy was bad. I'm not actually would have been in favor of it. I think authorities

00:41:17.800 were they were great artistic patrons. I love the Habsburg Empire. I'm in Vienna and I love they they

00:41:23.300 supported a style of music, of architecture that is unperiled in its beauty. But, you know,

00:41:28.880 we think, oh, those spoiled kings and aristocrats that lived off everybody else. These students are

00:41:34.560 living off of everybody else. They are completely self-involved. They have no idea what it took to

00:41:41.480 create the prosperity that they take for granted. Every fabric, every material around you was the

00:41:49.400 product of this extraordinary 400-year race to create knowledge, to transform human existence from what was

00:42:00.040 millennia of the most swallowed, disease-filled, poverty-stricken, famine-stricken existence where you

00:42:12.160 barely eked out to now our problem is obesity. We are so successful. Capitalism, free market economy

00:42:19.480 has been so successful that we are drowning in goods. We are drowning in prosperity and we have

00:42:28.220 no recollection. We have no knowledge of what it took. And meanwhile, we're tearing down science by saying

00:42:36.560 if any standard of excellence has a disparate impact on Black and Hispanic students, we should tear it

00:42:44.580 down. We should get rid of credentializing in medicine. We should we should credentialize on the

00:42:50.080 basis of race, not knowledge of medicine. We should hire and promote on the basis of race, not knowledge

00:42:57.040 of how to save a cancer victim or how to solve a heart attack victim. We are the federal government under

00:43:04.240 Biden is handing out billions of dollars of federal taxpayer money based not on who is the best oncologist

00:43:12.940 or who is the best neurologist to try and cure Alzheimer's disease or Parkinson's disease, but who has

00:43:20.460 the darkest skin color. But of course, if you're East Asian, that doesn't count. Or if you're an Indian, 1.00

00:43:27.200 that doesn't count. In fact, our science profession right now is extraordinarily multinational,

00:43:32.660 multicultural, multicultural, multiracial. The only groups who are not proportionally represented

00:43:38.240 are Blacks and Hispanics. And that's not because of racism. It's because of the skills gap. It's

00:43:43.960 because they're the the grasp of math and science concepts is so low. That's a problem that begins

00:43:50.660 in the family. It begins in a culture of anti-academic achievement. It begins in stigmatizing

00:43:57.040 academic effort. It's acting white. That's what has to change. We should not be tearing down our 0.96

00:44:02.840 standards, Megan. But we are a culture now that is engaged in self-loathing. And when the West

00:44:09.780 tears itself down, there's going to be nothing left. The mob can destroy. It cannot create.

00:44:17.280 And we'll see what happens if the West can continuously self-cancels. China will take over. I mean, 0.95

00:44:24.420 they are now beating us in many types of nanotechnologies because they do care about

00:44:30.920 merit. They're not handing scientific and math privileges out based on identity politics.

00:44:38.220 They're saying, I'm going to find the best math talent among the student body, and I'm going to

00:44:43.440 throw everything we've got. Meanwhile, America is tearing down gifted and talented programs because of

00:44:49.340 the usual race issue. And we're tearing down our criminal law enforcement because of the usual 0.98

00:44:55.540 race issue. This is how a society destroys excellence and civilization. 1.00

00:45:03.700 They've been using the term Selma envy to describe a lot of these students, right? They're just so

00:45:10.300 desperate to be part of something that matters, and they missed that particular movement. And so now

00:45:17.160 they're finding something else and falsely trying to compare themselves to people who actually did

00:45:22.900 suffer and didn't endure a lot in order to change this country by claiming they're on a hunger strike

00:45:28.520 when really they're ordering sushi to their George Soros funded tent by claiming, you know, woe is me

00:45:34.600 while they're sneaking off for a little salsa dancing by as Ilan Omar's daughter who went to Barnard,

00:45:40.660 she goes there now was suspended in connection with one of these protests, calling herself now

00:45:46.000 homeless because she got suspended temporarily and saying she was the victim of a chemical weapons

00:45:54.640 attack, Heather, because one of the students sprayed a gas, meaning fart spray on campus that is 0.98

00:46:03.280 non-toxic. It says so on the bottle. And she, without mentioning that's what happened, just goes on MSNBC

00:46:09.800 and says, I was the victim of a chemical weapons attack. Sure. Sure. You were Isla or Isra, whatever

00:46:16.040 her name is. I mean, we're basically putting a target on our backs and saying, come and invade.

00:46:22.280 I mean, this is such a decadent society. We do not have martial virtues anymore. I wish I could send

00:46:27.640 these people into comment. Obviously nobody wants to be at war, but these are people who are living

00:46:35.000 a fiction and are completely soft. We have lost any sense of realism and martial virtues. It is

00:46:42.600 completely pathetic, but it's all comes to, I remember in the 1990s, you would have faculty 0.98

00:46:47.160 writing op-eds in the New York Times saying, oh, where's the student protest? No, you know what? 0.97

00:46:53.160 Here's the only thing you're obliged to do and should do on a college campus is learn, shut up 0.94

00:46:58.520 and learn some history. Shut up and learn some chemistry. Shut up and learn some literature. 0.99

00:47:06.440 Listen to Mozart. Listen to Brahms. Listen to Chopin. Study Tiepolo. Study John Milton. Study the Periodic 1.00

00:47:13.880 Table. You have four years to confront and absorb the greatness of people who went before you,

00:47:24.360 who make you look like pygmies. You should really not be heard. We don't care what you think. 0.99

00:47:31.240 Conservatives make the mistake of saying, oh, well, college is all about debate and free speech

00:47:38.120 and critical thinking. Yeah, I'm a little less enamored of that concept. What it should be really

00:47:44.680 about is cramming as much knowledge into the empty noggins of these pathetic crybabies as is 1.00

00:47:52.360 possible in four years. And then if you want to go out after college and debate whether Trump is a 0.99

00:47:58.680 fascist or how many sex organs we should lop off of adolescents today, that's fine. But right now, 0.98

00:48:08.360 you should be devoted to one thing, and that is overcoming your embarrassing ignorance about the 0.98

00:48:17.240 world and your place in it. That is so well said. I've got to play this soundbite. I'm going to front 0.87

00:48:24.680 it by telling you I don't know exactly how he got it or whether he was there, but Rudy Giuliani posted it

00:48:31.160 on X of a student and her friend who were at the NYU protest. And listen to this exchange, Heather.

00:48:38.840 And what would you say is the main goal with tonight's protest? I think the goal is just

00:48:44.520 showing our support for Palestine and demanding that NYU stops. I honestly don't know all of what

00:48:50.520 NYU's doing. Is there something that NYU's doing? I really don't know. I'm pretty sure they're...

00:48:54.600 Do you know what NYU's doing about Israel? Why are we protesting here?

00:48:59.400 I wish I was more educated. I'm not either. Yes, we all wish that.

00:49:05.080 I came from Columbia. I was there at Columbia, and we came down. They said NYU students need our support.

00:49:11.240 So I came down. I heard there's lots of cops. Some people were saying it was getting dangerous.

00:49:16.920 Heather. It's just so ridiculous. Again, it is good. They're doing this because they're in a college 0.99

00:49:23.240 campus and time is running out. The school year's ending. What will they do when they don't

00:49:29.000 have the bureaucrats to go around handing them out little cookies and saying, well,

00:49:34.040 we're going to negotiate. You can pretend like you're hostages and we're negotiating with you

00:49:39.000 and you're in danger. They'll be thrown out into the real world and there'll be nobody to negotiate

00:49:44.120 with. Now they've got this bunting. They're like little babies swaddled by all of the DEI bureaucrats and

00:49:51.320 the student services bureaucrats and the vice presidents of first-gen students. And it's a marvelous...

00:49:58.440 They are codependent addicts. They're addicted to melodrama and to fiction because they are living

00:50:07.720 in fictional worlds. They are not oppressed in America. They have more freedom than has ever been

00:50:13.480 experienced in all of human history. And yet they live in a world that perversely celebrates victimhood

00:50:20.920 by self-acclamation. They know nothing. Let's give them a map with all of the country's names wiped out.

00:50:30.840 And let's see if they can even find Gaza on a map, much less Jordan. The Golan Heights, Syria, Iran cannot do it. 0.80

00:50:41.240 This is completely as much of a social contagion as the trans thing is. It is adolescents striving to have 1.00

00:50:49.720 power over adults, which is what every adult craves, whether it's claiming that you've been misgendered

00:50:55.720 and so you can crush an adult under your thumb or claiming that you are in solidarity with Palestine

00:51:02.680 and therefore are yourself somehow a victim. It gives adolescents power and that's what they crave.

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00:52:07.880 supply. There's another woman over there named Alex Wagner, who was on the same panel, 0.87

00:52:18.280 making a similar point. I'll stick with you on this, Mike, about how they're trying to quote,

00:52:24.840 normalize NDAs, non-disclosure agreements in this abominable Trump courtroom. All right,

00:52:32.920 take a listen to her. Number one for all journalism students out there, checkbook journalism, not a

00:52:38.520 thing. It is not a thing. The strategy from Trump's team, at least as I understood it today, seems to

00:52:43.640 be to normalize outlandish things, which is the arguing that NDAs are just a common practice,

00:52:49.240 that lots of wealthy people do them. This is nothing abnormal. Everybody has NDAs. You guys may not have

00:52:54.600 heard about them before, but it happens. This is the thing that is done. Just because Trump had a bunch

00:52:59.640 of people signing NDAs doesn't mean there's anything suspect about that. Catch and kill. 0.99

00:53:04.360 It happens all the time. There's nothing illegal about this scheme. This sort of thing happens all 0.98

00:53:08.600 the time. This is from Todd Blanche's mouth to the jury. And then my favorite, there is nothing wrong

00:53:14.440 with trying to influence an election. It's called democracy. That is not how the world works.

00:53:20.520 There is so much to dissect there, Mike. I mean, NDAs. NBC is the king of NDAs, okay? Somebody in this

00:53:30.040 discussion right here might have been forced to sign one. I have a list of women that's longer than 1.00

00:53:35.960 Santa's scroll who have been forced to sign NDAs by NBC news and MSNBC, Alex. So you might want to do

00:53:44.840 your homework before you bash them as a tool that's only used by people who are on criminal trial.

00:53:51.640 Although on second thought, maybe NBC will be headed there someday and her remarks will prove

00:53:56.440 true. But that's right. And the checkbook journal, like this is not how story, how journalism is done.

00:54:03.080 As I point out, this is how NBC news handled journalism when it came to its Pulitzer prize winning

00:54:09.240 story that it let walk out the door and go to the New Yorker. And not just that, Mike, but look at the

00:54:15.560 number of stories that were manipulated, suppressed, buried, or promoted during the 2020 election. We

00:54:23.160 could go back to 16 too for Hillary, but let's just stick with 2020 when it came to Trump v. Biden. 1.00

00:54:29.400 To sell to a jury that only the Republican did this evil thing of manipulating the media is going to be

00:54:37.320 very tough. Yeah, I mean, I was a real lawyer in Colorado for 10 years before I got dragged back

00:54:45.560 into D.C. in the political scene. And I'll tell you, NDAs, nondisclosure agreements, these payments,

00:54:52.120 they happen every day in the legal practice. And to say that that Trump is trying to normalize them

00:54:57.960 shows that this young journalist is absolutely clueless and sanctimonious or she's lying. So it's one of the

00:55:06.040 the two because it's routine in the practice of law and the practice of politics and the practice of

00:55:12.360 journalism that you use nondisclosure agreements and you have to make payments. You have to make,

00:55:17.000 you have to settle nuisance claims from time to time, actually quite frequently if you're a big target.

00:55:23.420 You can call it hush money, but it's the settlement of a nuisance claim with a nondisclosure agreement.

00:55:28.960 The other thing is, Dave, you know, the New York Post reporting on the Hunter Biden laptop

00:55:36.720 was universally suppressed by the mainstream media. And we saw just two weeks ago an expose by an NPR

00:55:44.320 insider saying they were intentionally keeping that out of the news at NPR because they knew that it would

00:55:53.040 help Trump. And they openly said, no, this will help Trump. OK, no cash exchanged hands, but it's in

00:56:01.680 principle the same exact thing. A friendly media outlet that says, I want the election to turn out

00:56:07.920 a certain way and shapes its coverage accordingly. Well, Megan, first off, you're right. NBC is treating

00:56:14.960 me very well, so I'm not going to criticize them. But you can see why the mainstream media is critical

00:56:20.400 of a publication like the National Enquirer who was actually working with Trump to try to help

00:56:26.320 his election in this case. Now, you're bringing up the New York Post story. And I think actually

00:56:31.040 it's fair to bring that up because you had the press who thought this was some Russian disinformation

00:56:37.200 or something that was going that was planted and they stopped it. And in the end, we don't know

00:56:43.600 exactly where it came from or what, but it's something that probably should have been out there

00:56:47.520 and let the people decide. But yeah, I hear what it came from. It came from Hunter to a legally blind 0.95

00:56:54.640 repairman. Then Hunter never picked it up. And then a legally blind repairman called Rudy Giuliani.

00:56:59.920 And by the way, the FBI had it, too, and verified that it was Hunter's.

00:57:04.080 Well, regardless, it is something I agree with you that should be out there, actually. And as far as NBC,

00:57:10.240 they're the ones who are trying to point to this National Enquirer as what you should not do. And I

00:57:19.440 agree with them because you don't engage with a presidential campaign to try to figure out a way

00:57:24.640 to help them get elected and be used as a tool to buy a story and to kill it just to help a campaign.

00:57:31.200 Can I go back to one thing real quick, Megan? I promise real quick, because you said I was doing

00:57:35.280 the gummies. But the reason why I talk about the statute of limitations issue, I just have to tell

00:57:39.360 you, and Mike and I were talking off air is because there is a provision of New York law that says that

00:57:44.800 when you move away, like the White House or Florida, the statute of limitations is paused for

00:57:49.840 up to five years. So that's why I still believe that even if it's just misdemeanors, that prosecutors

00:57:54.320 could still bring the case against Trump for falsification of business records. I was not smoking the peace

00:57:59.520 pipe. I don't think that virtually anybody else accepts that. And none of the legal experts I've

00:58:07.840 been following in this believe that that would have resurrected this dead claim. But okay, point

00:58:11.600 taken. No gummies involved. Thank you. I do want to let's see. Hold on a second. There's I want to

00:58:17.600 make sure I've gotten everything here. Oh, okay. This last question on the Trump trial.

00:58:24.160 We had the ruling yesterday morning that virtually everything Trump has ever done is going to come in

00:58:28.640 against him if he gets cross-examined. And we've been talking about this issue in New York State

00:58:35.040 in connection with my pal, Arthur Idala, who represents, speaking of Harvey Weinstein,

00:58:40.640 he represents Harvey Weinstein. And he just had an argument before the New York State Court of

00:58:44.400 Appeals, our highest court, saying, you made it impossible for him to take the stand in his own

00:58:50.400 defense by saying, like, every woman he ever, you know, interacted with or had a complaint about him

00:58:57.600 was going to be allowed to take the stand against him. And like the prior bad acts evidence would

00:59:02.800 have been so overwhelming. It would have absolutely ensured a conviction. And the ones they even allowed,

00:59:08.080 even without him testifying, was very lengthy. It was a lengthy list. So Trump is kind of facing the same

00:59:14.560 thing, where they had a hearing and they said, if he takes a stand, it's going to be a lot of bad

00:59:19.840 things we're going to let in. And this is where Andy McCarthy, he had a piece on this today.

00:59:25.280 The lawfare against Trump, Dave, that's already gone down, is really coming back to haunt him,

00:59:32.720 because the judge is going to let in the Letitia James, you know, $450 million judgment against him,

00:59:40.080 fraud, fraud, corporate fraud. The case against Weisselberg, his top financial guy who was found

00:59:48.080 guilty of a criminal violation, another fraudster. The fact that he defamed E. Jean Carroll, but not

00:59:55.280 the fact that he allegedly sexually assaulted her, you know, a liar. He's a liar. And on and on it goes. 1.00

01:00:01.200 So like, it's almost as if the Democrats have been laying the foundation for all of this to support a

01:00:07.800 criminal conviction in this flimsy case all along. And so you tell me whether there's any chance,

01:00:15.640 given the judge's ruling, all that can come in, that Trump will take the stand.

01:00:20.120 Meghan, he was never going to take the stand. It would have been walking into a perjury trap.

01:00:24.680 He'd have embarrassing details of his relationship with Stormy Daniels. And yes, prior bad acts can come

01:00:30.680 in up to the judge's discretion. He allowed some, not others. He allowed talking about the Access

01:00:35.720 Hollywood tape, but not the playing of the Access Hollywood tape. I thought he was pretty fair in

01:00:40.680 his rulings, but I think this is all for naught. I mean, look, it's like asking me,

01:00:45.320 what teams do you want to play for in the NBA? Like, yeah, I'm never going to play in the NBA.

01:00:51.320 Donald Trump was never going to take the stand in his defense. This is something he's done in the

01:00:55.560 past. He said, I'm going to take the stand in the E. Jean Carroll case and didn't. I'm going to talk

01:01:00.280 to Robert Mueller in the investigation, and he didn't. I'm going to take the stand in the civil

01:01:03.960 fraud case, and he didn't. So that's just bluster. He was never going to take the stand in his defense.

01:01:09.480 He took it in the second E. Jean case. That was one he did take it in. I don't think you should

01:01:15.000 take the stand at all, Mike. Do you? I wouldn't in this case. I mean, I would say that Trump is

01:01:20.760 different from other criminal defendants. If you're a criminal defense attorney, you generally would advise

01:01:26.040 most of your clients not to take the stand. I would say that with President Trump in some of

01:01:30.200 these matters that, you know, he should be out there, maybe not taking the stand, but he should

01:01:33.480 be out there making public statements to defend himself against this lawfare and election interference.

01:01:38.760 But I would, I would, he, I don't think he should take the stand in this case. There's little upside

01:01:43.400 and there's a lot of downside as you just laid out. And this process is so clearly rigged against

01:01:48.440 them. Do not give them any rope to hang you. Okay. One other story, and then I want to get to

01:01:55.400 these college protests, but before we get to the college protests, we got to talk about Alec Baldwin.

01:01:59.800 Did you guys see this viral video of him? I have to say, I'm not, you know,

01:02:07.560 whatever. Alec Baldwin's got a temper and he's obviously in a lot of trouble right now out in

01:02:11.960 New Mexico because of the death of this cinematographer on his movie set. But I am 100%

01:02:17.240 team Alec Baldwin when it comes to what just happened to him here. Here's the video for those

01:02:22.200 of you who haven't seen it. Alec, can you please stay free Palestine one time? 1.00

01:02:27.560 Why did you kill that lady? You killed that lady and got no jail time? No jail time, Alec?

01:02:34.760 No jail time, Alec. You're putting innocent people in jail, Alec Baldwin. Free Palestine, Alec, 0.99

01:02:41.640 just one time and I'll leave you alone. I'll leave you alone. I swear. Just stay free Palestine one time.

01:02:48.120 One time. One time. Call the police. One time, Alec. You know he's a criminal. You know he's a

01:02:56.280 fucking criminal. Come on, Alec. Just say free Palestine one time. One time. Just one time, 1.00

01:03:03.240 please. And I'll leave you alone. Free Palestine. Fuck Israel. Fuck Zionism. Please say it. 0.86

01:03:10.520 One time. And then he gets her with his left hand, clearly grabs the camera or knocks it out of her

01:03:23.960 hand. And she goes by Crackhead Barney. So Crackhead got into an altercation with him and tweeted out that

01:03:33.040 this white devil assaulted me. Dave, you're a prosecutor. If Crackhead came to you and said, 0.98

01:03:39.080 I want to file charges against Alec Baldwin for assault, what would you do?

01:03:43.880 No file. And here's why. She can go to police and she can fill out a complaint. And this could be 0.99

01:03:51.240 technically a battery because it's an unwanted touching. It's a very low bar. You have to just

01:03:55.720 have probable cause. But then it would come to my office as prosecutor. And the question is,

01:04:01.160 could I prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt? There is not a jury in the United States that would

01:04:05.720 find Alec Baldwin guilty. When Megyn Kelly is standing up for Alec Baldwin, you know there's

01:04:10.600 not a jury in the world that would side with Crackhead, whatever her name is. And this shows

01:04:16.760 you the problems with this pro-Hamas, pro-Palestinian movement that she's a part of. Number one,

01:04:22.840 they're the ones engaging in bullying and harassment. You can just see it for your own eyes.

01:04:26.360 Number two, their whole philosophy is based on ignorance. They don't know anything about what's

01:04:31.240 going on in Gaza. They just discovered Gaza just a few months ago. This is just a trendy thing.

01:04:37.640 Yeah, it's a trendy thing for them to get on board. And lastly, there's no self-awareness here. I mean,

01:04:42.440 she actually portrays herself as the victim. Meanwhile, Alec Baldwin is opening the door,

01:04:46.200 asking her politely to please leave. And she's the one who thinks she's the victim?

01:04:50.760 This is why they're losing support for people who see things like this. This is why even you,

01:04:55.400 Megyn Kelly, come to the defense of Alec Baldwin and justifiably so.

01:05:00.920 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - April 27, 2024

Best of the Week： Campus Chaos and Left Indoctrination, Tabloid Trump Trial, and Media Hypocrisy

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