The Megyn Kelly Show - Best of the Week： Hollywood Bias with James Woods, Kamala's Coronation, Whistleblowers Emerge

00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.000 I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. It's been a busy week, well, busy month,

00:00:17.720 and we had some fascinating conversations on the show. There may not be a former Democratic

00:00:22.340 politician who is as closely connected with the failed 2020 campaign of Kamala Harris

00:00:26.660 as Tulsi Gabbard. She basically ended Kamala's campaign before it really began on a debate 1.00

00:00:32.260 stage in 2019. Well, she joined me this week to talk about the new coronation of Kamala Harris this

00:00:38.200 week, and she's got some really interesting thoughts, as you might imagine. Senator Josh

00:00:42.640 Hawley was on with me to discuss what he's hearing from whistleblowers directly about the assassination

00:00:48.520 attempt of former President Donald Trump, including why someone was on that roof that the shooter took

00:00:55.600 shots from, successfully, unfortunately, but left it. That's what the whistleblowers told him,

00:01:02.080 and he tells us in this conversation. Meantime, legendary actor James Woods was here on the

00:01:07.900 program. He almost never gives interviews, and he shed some light on what it's really like for a

00:01:12.680 conservative in Hollywood and what they did to him in particular, which is horrifying, but not totally

00:01:19.120 surprising knowing that. And our friends from National Review, Charlie Cook and Jim Garrity,

00:01:23.500 joined me to talk about what Kamala Harris's record really looks like. Back Monday. See you then.

00:01:33.380 President Biden's selfless decision has given the Democratic Party the opportunity

00:01:38.380 to unite behind a new nominee, and boy, oh boy, are we enthusiastic. When I spoke with her Sunday,

00:01:45.960 she said she wanted the opportunity to win the nomination on her own and to do so from the

00:01:53.080 grassroots up, not top down. She would work to earn the support of our party, and boy, has she done so 0.89

00:02:01.600 in quick order. So now that the process has played out from the grassroots bottom up, we are here today

00:02:10.740 to throw our support behind Vice President Kamala Harris. I'm clapping. You don't have to.

00:02:21.700 It's a happy day. What can I say?

00:02:23.420 And they didn't clap. And for the listening audience, while he's doing this bit, he's pumping

00:02:29.540 his fist like, yay, we can do it. Both fists together. Swing, swaying, bottom up, grassroots,

00:02:36.560 just in case you didn't hear. Welcome back to the Megyn Kelly show. Who better to talk about all of this

00:02:42.860 with than my next guest, Tulsi Gabbard. She was a 2020 presidential candidate on the Dem side, 1.00

00:02:49.720 and she is author of the book, For Love of Country, Leave the Democrat Party Behind,

00:02:53.280 so you know how things went over there. Tulsi, great to have you back, especially so soon. But

00:02:57.300 why shouldn't we, given the monumental developments since you were last on? This was a grassroots,

00:03:04.560 bottom up, quote, process that was really given to the voters, just in case you weren't aware,

00:03:11.040 definitely not top down. True?

00:03:12.820 Yeah, sure. If you buy what Chuck Schumer is selling, which I don't for a second. I was laughing

00:03:21.800 as you played that clip, Megan, because, gosh, it's just so telling in so many ways,

00:03:28.440 ending with him being the only guy clapping.

00:03:32.360 In front of loyal Democrats and campaign operatives, nonetheless.

00:03:35.620 Exactly. Exactly. It really said it all about who's actually made the decision here. And it's not

00:03:44.500 the rank and file Democrats. And we got to go all the way back to when the Democratic presidential

00:03:49.820 primaries were supposed to occur. Stark contrast to when I ran in 2020, in that presidential primary,

00:03:58.100 where you actually had primaries. And there were a lot of different choices from voters to select from.

00:04:04.380 How that pre-curation and pre-selection process occurred between the Democratic Party and the

00:04:11.060 mainstream propaganda media back then is another topic for another conversation. But at least there

00:04:17.860 were many names on the ballot. And voters had the opportunity to go and cast their vote for the

00:04:23.000 candidate of their choosing. In this election, now in 2024, many states didn't even have primaries.

00:04:29.460 We actually had a few people who stepped up to run against Joe Biden in the primary election,

00:04:35.080 and their names were not allowed to be on some ballots in these states. So to say that, first of

00:04:41.160 all, there was even a Democratic process to select Joe Biden to be the nominee is a pure lie. And that

00:04:47.040 lie is continuing on now as they try to create this new narrative and this facade of how the Democratic

00:04:54.840 Party is going to the grassroots from the bottom on up to select Kamala Harris as the nominee.

00:05:00.460 None of that has happened. What are we at? It's Wednesday now. This announcement was just made that

00:05:06.160 President Biden was not going to run on Sunday. Where was the bottom-up grassroots voices being heard

00:05:12.120 and votes being cast now for Kamala Harris to be the new Democratic nominee? It's a lie. It hasn't

00:05:18.980 happened. They have decided that she will be the nominee. But they're trying to pretend as though

00:05:24.340 that this is a decision being made by the American people are certainly Democratic primary voters

00:05:29.100 to try to bolster her position rather than seeing it for what it actually is, which is a coronation

00:05:34.760 by the Democrat elite who've been calling the shots for Joe Biden, who's been a figurehead for

00:05:41.160 the Democrat elite for the last three and a half years. And now they see in Kamala Harris someone who

00:05:45.880 will continue to be a figurehead and who will do whatever they tell her to do. 0.99

00:05:50.700 That's exactly right. She's going to owe them. She's going to owe them big. It's right on brand

00:05:55.800 though, Tulsi, for the Democrat party and what we've seen recently, where we've just been through

00:06:00.260 years of them telling us not to believe our lion eyes when it came to Joe Biden's decline.

00:06:05.660 And then when it was no longer, you know, they were no longer capable of hiding it.

00:06:10.200 And Kamala subs in, don't believe your lion eyes that this looked like a top-down effort. 0.99

00:06:15.120 You know, she was made the nominee by Fiat. You guys really actually voted for it. This came

00:06:20.860 from you at the grassroots. And I have to say of all the ones who object, finally, you see BLM

00:06:26.060 coming out and saying, this is not okay. She's been placed in there. We object to this. We do not

00:06:33.180 support her. And shouldn't there be at least the semblance of democracy here? I mean, this might be

00:06:38.300 the first time I've agreed with the messaging coming out of that group. It is, it is very telling

00:06:45.240 again, and it's a continuation of, of two things. Number one is, uh, across the, the entire Biden

00:06:51.300 Harris administration, they have consistently shown that, that they believe if they say something

00:06:56.960 that it is somehow true. And number two, that we, the American people are stupid enough to buy what 0.99

00:07:04.520 they are saying and not pay attention to what they're doing. Uh, we've seen this, uh, dramatically 1.00

00:07:10.520 with their open border policies over and over again for the last three years, president Biden,

00:07:16.000 Kamala Harris, secretary of Mayorkas over and over again, telling the American people,

00:07:19.800 the border is secure. The border is secure. There is no crisis at the border. Don't worry about this.

00:07:25.540 There's nothing to see here folks. And then all of a sudden, because they see voters are looking at

00:07:29.780 what's actually happening. They're not buying their lie. President Biden does this last minute

00:07:34.120 political election year executive order to try to crack down on the, on the border and, and actually

00:07:39.800 acknowledge, well, actually, no, it wasn't secure, but it's the Republicans' fault and it's Trump's

00:07:44.280 fault. Uh, it, it doesn't make sense in any way, shape or form. They did the same thing with our

00:07:48.960 economy. Bidenomics is working great. It's one of our greatest success stories. The economy is going

00:07:54.340 to be great. The recession is not going to last very long. It's just a temporary thing. Don't worry

00:07:58.940 about it. Nothing to see here. Meanwhile, everyday Americans are noticing that they can afford less

00:08:04.460 and less every time you go to the grocery store, recognizing that our economy is not doing very

00:08:09.520 well. Everything costs more now. And when are these prices going to fall? When isn't, when is

00:08:14.220 inflation going to go down in enough of a way that makes it so that people can not have to be so

00:08:19.580 concerned about how to cover the basic expenses of everyday life. We're seeing the same thing happen

00:08:24.840 here. I think this statement from black lives matter is very telling because they're speaking

00:08:30.320 the truth, first of all, but second of all, also that it shows that they expect black voters to fall

00:08:37.820 in behind Kamala Harris lockstep. Once again, playing the identity politics game, rather than actually

00:08:43.320 looking at what are the issues, what are the issues that are of concern to, uh, African-American

00:08:49.240 voters to different demographics and constituencies across our country. They're, they're not actually

00:08:54.420 focused on solutions to the real challenges we face. Once again, focused on what they say and hoping

00:09:01.260 we fall for the lie and the optics of what they're presenting that are not reflective of the truth of

00:09:07.460 the world and country that we live in today. So on the subject of, um, the economy, I believe that

00:09:14.440 this is one of the reasons Democrats are struggling so mightily. And I think it's so far we've seen

00:09:18.960 Harris as well. It's only been days. So take it with a grain of salt with young people because 0.90

00:09:23.740 they're being directly affected. They can't get into the economy. They can't get anything close to a

00:09:29.520 running start. They're dragging. They can't find jobs. I also happen to believe the over the top DEI

00:09:35.120 messaging that these young people have grown up with and been immersed in in high school and college

00:09:40.880 has turned a lot of them on these Democrats. They don't want their skin color and their gender and 0.99

00:09:46.620 their whatever shoved down their throats. But look at this report from CNN. I've got two sound bites

00:09:52.260 here from this guy, Harry Enten, who watches the polls carefully for them. They're very interesting,

00:09:57.260 Tulsi. We'll play the first one and then we'll go to the second. Watch.

00:10:00.940 Joe Biden won voters under the age of 35 by 21 points. What do we see with Kamala Harris? Well, 0.99

00:10:06.200 she's still ahead. But the margin here is significantly less than what we saw with Joe

00:10:11.540 Biden back in 2020. She's up by just nine points. You may make the argument that was better than

00:10:16.000 Biden was doing before he got out. But compared to that Democratic baseline where Democrats have

00:10:20.780 historically in presidential elections, at least this century, been carrying that young vote by 20

00:10:26.080 or more percentage points, she is way down from that. Democrats say they're more motivated to turn 0.99

00:10:30.560 out after Biden left the race. Well, we do see a significant portion of Democrats who say,

00:10:34.940 yes, 39 percent. The thing I was interested in was it disproportionately younger voters who said

00:10:40.280 that they were more likely to turn out or more motivated to turn out. And what we see here is

00:10:44.160 it's 42 percent, not a big difference between 42 and 39 percent. So this idea, again, that the vice

00:10:50.860 president has unique potential to dig in and get young voters to turn out. John, it's just not there

00:10:57.100 in the numbers, despite all the Internet memes that are going around.

00:11:00.020 They've only gotten a three point bump with young voters on enthusiasm since they announced her.

00:11:07.940 Let me play the second one, because this speaks more to party identification. And you and I both

00:11:13.340 know you used to be a Democrat. I did, too. Yeah. When you're young, that's when the Democrat Party

00:11:19.180 is kind of usually most appealing. Not necessarily right now. Look at this.

00:11:24.500 I want to look at party identification. Again, voters under the age of 35. Go back to 2020. This

00:11:30.980 is the Pew Research study. This is one of the best studies that we have. And look at that. 56 percent

00:11:35.840 of young voters said that, in fact, they were Democrats. They identified as Democrat or lean

00:11:40.640 Democratic. You look down at 2024, it's 49 percent. Look at the Republican jump from 39 to 49 percent.

00:11:47.620 So when we say that Harris is doing worse than Biden, it's not that she's uniquely bad. It's rather

00:11:52.140 she's fighting uphill. She's trying to fight against a wave that is going against the Democrats

00:11:56.460 among young voters. And Harris may be unique in some ways. Maybe she does slightly better 0.99

00:12:00.360 than the generic Democrat, but not all that much.

00:12:04.120 So for the listening audience, it shows that the the Republicans used to be at a significant

00:12:08.980 disadvantage in getting young people to vote and register Republican. And it's been completely erased.

00:12:14.640 And Democrats have gone from having forty nine percent of the young voters registered as Democrat

00:12:20.840 to just 30. They've lost 10 percentage points on of their share. So you explain that one to me,

00:12:27.120 Tulsi, because that's that's a problem for them.

00:12:30.460 You know, what's what I think is is encouraging of what we're seeing here is that you have young

00:12:35.620 people who are are questioning. They're not just accepting whatever they're being fed.

00:12:40.640 Again, we can't cast a broad brush and say all young people this or that. But but it's encouraging

00:12:46.100 to see that there are more young people who are not just accepting at face value what the

00:12:51.160 Democratic leader saying when they say, hey, a boy can become a girl simply by declaring that is so

00:12:57.700 and that boys should be allowed to compete in girls sports. I think people are actually this is

00:13:04.060 young people, but I think across the board are recognizing the literal and pure insanity 0.98

00:13:10.580 of these woke radical ideologies of the Democrat elite are not only advocating for, but pushing

00:13:17.540 and mandating in our schools. The fact that in some schools now, for example, a track team

00:13:23.740 in my home state of Hawaii, a girl's track team now has half of the team, half of the entire team 1.00

00:13:31.620 are biological males competing on a girl's team, taking away those opportunities from our young

00:13:37.640 women and girls. Every I think every rational, open minded person would look at this kind of 0.95

00:13:44.500 example and just say, this is insanity. It's crazy. And so this you mentioned some examples with regard

00:13:50.680 to the economy. You look at examples related to our open borders and how it's not just the border

00:13:56.980 states now that are feeling the effects and impacts of the almost four years of open border policies under

00:14:03.080 the Biden Harris administration. It's it's small towns. It's rural communities. I was in Montana

00:14:08.020 recently and was talking to some folks there. This is Montana. You couldn't get farther away from the

00:14:13.480 border on any coast or or the Southwest than Montana. And even there, they are being impacted by the illegal

00:14:20.240 immigration crisis and an increasing presence of criminal activity by the cartels who have taken a stronghold

00:14:26.920 there. It is harder for everyday Americans, young people who are usually not affiliated, attached to

00:14:34.840 an affiliation of one party or another from a generational standpoint. So it's encouraging to see how people

00:14:40.920 are using their common sense, being critical thinkers, being independent minded thinkers about, OK, well,

00:14:47.340 which party and which candidate is more accurately representing common sense and what is actually in the best

00:14:54.620 interest of themselves, their families, their communities in our country.

00:15:01.860 It's absolutely insane, Megan. It's insane. Here's what the whistleblowers, the latest whistleblowers, we've had a

00:15:06.880 number of them come forward to my office. Here's what the latest said just yesterday, that in fact, law enforcement had

00:15:13.340 designated at least one individual, maybe more, but at least one whose job it was to be on the roof, not in the

00:15:20.420 vicinity, not around, on the roof. And this person, I don't know if it was a he or a she, but this person, according

00:15:26.700 to the whistleblower, decided, oh, it's awfully hot that day. And so they abandoned their post, never went back

00:15:32.900 to the roof. And that is why the roof was left wide open. It wasn't because of the slope, contrary to what the

00:15:38.720 former Secret Service director said. No, it was because this law enforcement individual just didn't want to be on

00:15:45.040 there. But Megan, there's more. Whistleblowers also tell me that law enforcement were supposed to be

00:15:50.420 patrolling the perimeter of that same building. I've been there, Megan. I've seen it myself. I went last

00:15:55.700 week. I took my own team because I don't trust any of these people to give us the truth. It's American

00:16:01.160 Glass Research building number six. Megan, it's a low roof. You've seen it. We've all seen it now in

00:16:06.540 pictures. It's a it's a low slung building. There was supposed to be law enforcement patrolling the

00:16:11.560 perimeter. They weren't doing it either. Instead, because of the heat again, whistleblowers tell me

00:16:18.060 that law enforcement went inside the building. So you got the roof abandoned. You got law enforcement

00:16:23.420 inside the building in the air conditioning and you have the building essentially open. Megan,

00:16:28.220 you can it's sometimes it's hard to see from the pictures, but I can tell you having been there,

00:16:31.640 there are air conditioning units, really large air conditioning units on either side of that

00:16:36.000 building. It's easy to get on that roof. I mean, it really is. It's a single story.

00:16:40.840 Any able-bodied individual could hop up on the air conditioning unit and hop up right onto the

00:16:45.600 roof. You wouldn't even need a ladder. If you had a ladder, it'd be super easy. Any 20-year-old kid,

00:16:51.420 which is what the shooter was, who he was, could certainly do it. Law enforcement,

00:16:55.400 according to whistleblowers, Megan, left the building totally, totally defenseless.

00:17:00.060 Oh, this is awful. When we say law enforcement, do we mean local law enforcement as distinct from

00:17:05.260 Secret Service? Yes. So this is the whistleblower said to me that Secret Service had asked local and

00:17:11.940 or state law enforcement to handle this and that they failed to do so. Now, I will just note, Megan,

00:17:18.340 that there is a lot behind the scenes here and not so behind the scenes in public. There's a lot of

00:17:22.520 attempts at blame shifting, and I'm even getting it from whistleblowers. We've got whistleblowers from

00:17:26.520 Secret Service World who are coming forward and saying, it's the locals' fault. And then I've spoken to

00:17:31.440 local law enforcement. Whistleblowers said, don't blame us. It's the Secret Service's fault. The

00:17:36.420 Secret Service didn't even show up the way they were supposed to for the walkthrough plan with local

00:17:40.780 law enforcement. So it is unclear to me. This is why we need the facts. This is ridiculous. You've got

00:17:46.200 law enforcement on both sides pointing the fingers at each other. You've got a former Secret Service

00:17:50.720 director who would take no responsibility. But bottom line is this. Somebody was supposed to be on

00:17:56.300 that roof. Somebody was supposed to be guarding that building. Nobody did either.

00:18:01.680 So the local law enforcement is delegated this task and Secret Service, for some reason, put it

00:18:06.460 outside the perimeter of the responsible area that Secret Service would have to look after.

00:18:11.880 And then it seems like they washed their hands of it. I mean, we had a former Secret Service

00:18:15.240 guy on the show a couple of days ago who was saying it doesn't matter whether it was inside or

00:18:18.980 outside the perimeter. Ultimately, it is the Secret Service's responsibility. And if you're going to

00:18:23.700 delegate it to local law enforcement, it's still your responsibility to make sure that it's well

00:18:28.320 protected. That plus the fact that we know Kim Cheetah lied about the reason they weren't up there 0.64

00:18:32.520 was a sloped roof isn't safe, tells me they're running scared. They know it was on them. And then

00:18:40.780 we get her performance yesterday, which, yes, ultimately led to her being forced out over her

00:18:45.340 strong objection. But why wouldn't she give any names? I realize there's probably going to be a public

00:18:51.440 pile on when we figure out who put the area outside of the, you know, Secret Service perimeter

00:18:57.080 and so on. But that them's the facts like that's life. So why can't we get actual specifics?

00:19:04.900 Well, we need actual specifics. And the reason I think is, is that there doesn't want nobody wants

00:19:09.240 to be responsible for anything. Secret Service doesn't want to be responsible. DHS doesn't want

00:19:14.140 to be responsible. Let me highlight something else that a whistleblower has told me, Megan,

00:19:17.880 and that is there were more DHS, Department of Homeland Security, more Homeland Security personnel

00:19:23.640 there that day working the rally that day than Secret Service agents. And this is because Secret

00:19:29.420 Service is so overstretched. They had so many other events going that they didn't have enough people

00:19:35.680 to actually cover the rally. So the most of the majority, the preponderance, most of the agents there

00:19:42.060 that day, the federal agents were from Homeland Security. They weren't prepared for this event.

00:19:46.500 They were not ready to do their jobs. They were supposed to be doing things like

00:19:51.220 using canines at the entrance to sweep people going through the crowd. They were supposed to

00:19:57.260 be guarding the area around the platform. They were supposed to be coordinating with locals.

00:20:01.340 And whistleblowers tell me they weren't doing any of these things. So Megan, we've got failure

00:20:05.340 at every single level. I mean, every level you look at here, Secret Service wasn't coordinating

00:20:11.340 this properly. Secret Service allowed Trump to go on stage. Secret Service didn't have the right

00:20:16.300 plan in place. DHS was unprepared. They didn't know what they were doing. State and local law

00:20:21.620 enforcement officials were just out there on their own, not sure what they were supposed to be doing,

00:20:26.020 maybe not doing their job. I mean, it is every piece of this is a total disaster.

00:20:32.180 The House Oversight hearing yesterday saying that the officers involved at that particular facility

00:20:38.700 were Butler Emergency Services. And God knows what their training was. Who knows whether they had

00:20:44.260 the training or the experience to understand how to protect a former president who we knew was under

00:20:51.620 threat or who they should have known was under threat. So now you have Kim Cheadle forced out

00:20:57.520 as a result of the embarrassing performance yesterday, in addition to the failures that

00:21:01.960 kicked this whole thing off. And you've got Joe Biden's reaction as follows in a paper statement.

00:21:08.180 Who knows whether this is really from him?

00:21:09.680 She has selflessly dedicated and risked her life to protect our nation throughout her career in the

00:21:14.400 U.S. Secret Service. We especially thank her for answering the call to lead the Secret Service

00:21:18.220 during our administration. We're grateful for her service to our family. As a leader, it takes honor,

00:21:23.840 courage, and incredible integrity to take full responsibility for an organization tasked with one

00:21:29.960 of the most challenging jobs in public service. And then they go on to say the independent review to

00:21:35.500 get to the bottom of what happened on July 13th continues. And I look forward to assessing its

00:21:39.600 conclusions. That's pretty remarkable. He does not come anywhere near throwing her under the bus.

00:21:45.780 I don't know that this gets it done, Senator. What do you think?

00:21:48.620 No, it doesn't. I mean, and by the way, she did none of those things. The things he just said in his

00:21:53.000 statement there, honor, service, you know, responsibility. She didn't take any responsibility.

00:21:58.240 We all watched the hearing. And by the way, she had briefed senators before that hearing five days

00:22:04.140 ago now, six days ago. She briefed senators in a closed door briefing. Megan, she was exactly in

00:22:09.440 that briefing as she was yesterday. She was unprepared. She was ill-informed, and she was

00:22:13.540 totally unwilling, totally unwilling to take any responsibility. She didn't know basic facts six

00:22:19.960 days ago. She didn't know basic facts yesterday. If the president really wanted to show some leadership,

00:22:24.120 he should have fired her. He should have said, this is totally unacceptable. I never should have

00:22:29.400 appointed you. You're fired. But of course, this guy won't fire anybody. I mean, let's think back

00:22:34.060 to Afghanistan, where we lost 13 brave service members and hundreds of American civilians left

00:22:39.820 behind to the enemy. Who did he fire after that? Nobody, nobody, no accountability. Here we have an

00:22:44.980 American president shot, another good American killed, multiple others critically wounded.

00:22:50.000 Nobody will take any responsibility. It's a, it is a sickness in this administration.

00:22:55.140 And when she got up there yesterday, it seemed clear she had things she wanted to hide.

00:23:00.000 There was just one example. I mean, we can go through more of them, but there was the example

00:23:03.880 of how the secret service lied on the record about denying president Trump's requests for additional

00:23:08.760 security. I mean, my own suspicion is they thought it was a vanity play. They thought maybe he was

00:23:14.280 just self-aggrandizing. I don't know. That's my speculation, but they did repeatedly deny him

00:23:19.980 additional resources for protection. And now we know, of course, he did have reason to fear for

00:23:24.720 his life and they denied it on the record, both when, uh, Dan Bongino alleged it, when Susan Crabtree

00:23:31.160 of real clear politics alleged it. Uh, and then they were pressed to director Cheadle was pressed

00:23:37.060 yesterday on the fact that she signed off on those lies that she would have had to approve her

00:23:41.900 spokesperson, Anthony Gugliemi, uh, in the lies that he told. And here was a bit of that exchange with,

00:23:47.720 uh, Florida representative, Mike Waltz and SOT 24. Did you sign off on that spokesman statement?

00:23:53.300 The spokesman statement, I believe was related to requests that were made. Did you sign off on it

00:23:57.580 for the requests that were made at the rally? Did you sign off on the statement before it went out?

00:24:02.740 I sign off on my press spokesman statement before they go out. I would hope you would in the wake

00:24:06.660 of an assassination attempt. Yes, you did. Categorically false that any requests were made.

00:24:14.680 You signed off on it. Thank you for that. Uh, thank you for that clarity.

00:24:21.040 So here's the thing, Senator, what that tells me is that even in the wake of an assassination attempt

00:24:25.420 in which a man died, she's not even at best, she was an error, right? So she's not even checking

00:24:31.660 her facts and being careful in the messaging around something as critical as whether they

00:24:36.960 denied Trump's requests or not, which seems like just a massive political CYA effort by Kim Cheadle

00:24:44.220 and those who work for her. Yeah, a hundred percent. You take the words right out of my mouth.

00:24:48.180 That's exactly what this is. That's what I thought when I first heard her brief senators a week ago.

00:24:53.160 And, uh, listen, the other person, Megan, who is the big liar here and has lied in public 0.99

00:24:57.560 repeatedly is Alejandro Mayorkas. Mayorkas, remember, went on, I believe the Sunday morning

00:25:02.540 talk shows and said, Oh, actually we had beefed up Trump's security. We had given him even more

00:25:07.800 than he requested. There was a threat from Iran and therefore we had, we'd given even more and we 1.00

00:25:13.300 were, we were tracking this. That's all false. That is just not true. They did not give them the

00:25:18.820 security they requested. His security was not beefed up. That's just an out and out lie. And by the way,

00:25:23.700 Mayorkas head of DHS, he should be on the hook here too. He was overseeing this entire operation

00:25:29.700 so far. He hasn't even appeared before Congress, let alone taken responsibility.

00:25:34.560 So this guy's basically got control, control in quotes of the border and of the secret service.

00:25:40.740 And it's not going very well. When is he getting hauled before Congress?

00:25:45.640 Yeah. Hopefully soon. Hopefully next week, the Senate is going to hold hearings on this next week.

00:25:50.380 And Alejandro Mayorkas had better be there. It's the committee on Homeland Security. I sit on that

00:25:54.860 committee. He had better be there under oath because sure, Cheadle's the director of the

00:25:59.500 secret service. She deserves to go. He's in charge though. I emphasize Mayorkas of the whole operation. 1.00

00:26:05.860 He oversees the whole thing. The secret service agents who were there, that's his brief. The DHS

00:26:11.160 detailees who were there at the rally. And I'm told now by whistleblowers that DHS personnel are often

00:26:16.980 getting assigned to these events. He oversees them as well. The whole thing is his responsibility.

00:26:22.140 And Megan, he has lied and lied and lied. And you're right. Best before we even get to the border

00:26:27.220 where he lies for a living. This guy is bad news. He's already been impeached by the house. He should

00:26:32.740 have been removed by the Senate. The Democrats didn't even hold a trial. Now we can see what a mistake

00:26:36.800 that was on his watch. Nine, 10 million illegals have come into this country and an American president

00:26:43.280 has suffered an assassination attempt. This guy's got to go. What we've seen is that he's not keeping

00:26:48.460 us safe. He didn't keep Trump safe. He didn't keep this poor fire chief safe who got killed at the

00:26:53.520 Trump rally. Compertory, the two people who were shot. He didn't keep the border safe and the women

00:26:59.040 who have been killed and raped and the men as well who are the victims. He didn't keep the people who got

00:27:02.680 the fentanyl into their veins as a result of the border situation. I mean, this guy is, he should not be in

00:27:08.100 a position of protecting us. That's obvious with Mayorkas. Here's the other question I have for you 1.00

00:27:12.520 though, because she deferred yesterday, Kim Cheadle, many times to the FBI. Well, the FBI,

00:27:16.960 this, the FBI, that. And we already know there are a lot of questions about the FBI. Many Americans

00:27:21.280 don't trust the FBI at this point, given their role in Russiagate and all that nonsense.

00:27:27.240 She knew answers, according to her, that she'd been given by the FBI, which she says is investigating.

00:27:34.960 Meanwhile, it's her, it's her service. These are her employees, but she's claiming to get the info

00:27:39.960 from the FBI. And she wouldn't give it up as though there's some sort of attorney client privilege

00:27:44.660 between the secret service director and the FBI, which there isn't. Let me show you this exchange

00:27:49.360 and ask what's next for the FBI piece of this probe. SOT 28.

00:27:53.320 Have you been in communication with the FBI? Yes, I have. With whom? I speak with the director and the

00:28:02.300 deputy director. Okay. Did they share with you how many shell casings were on the roof?

00:28:07.880 They have shared with me the... Did they share with you how many shell casings were on the roof?

00:28:15.220 Yes. Okay. How many were there? I would refer to the FBI for... How many were there? And their

00:28:23.980 information that they need to share in their investigation. So they've shared the information

00:28:28.760 with you. You just don't want to share the information with us, correct? If you're supposed

00:28:35.180 to be in charge, if the buck stops with you, how come you can't share the answers? What are you

00:28:41.580 covering up? What are you hiding, my friend? I'm not covering anything. Then why can't you

00:28:48.460 answer a simple question? Okay. So what happens to her now? Does she just go off quietly into the

00:28:54.740 night? And then the second piece of it is what happens with the FBI? Like why do they have

00:28:59.280 sole knowledge of what's happening in this investigation? Well, Megan, I can tell you as to

00:29:05.800 the FBI, one of the reasons I went to the site myself last week is because I don't trust them to do

00:29:10.480 anything. And I will tell you, when I got there to Butler, to the site, the FBI tried to run me off

00:29:17.200 as quick as they possibly could. When I went to that building that we've been talking about,

00:29:22.440 the American Glass Research building, the FBI came out onto the property. By the way, I had been given

00:29:28.100 permission by local security to be there. The folks who have authority over the building. FBI comes out,

00:29:34.960 Megan, and tells me I have to leave. And I said, excuse me? I mean, what authority do you have to tell

00:29:40.320 me that I have to leave? And they said, oh, we're doing an investigation. We'll give you the report

00:29:44.080 later, but you can't be here. You have to go. That told me a lot right there, which is they want to

00:29:48.760 control the information flow, Megan. They want to control the facts and the details here. And you saw

00:29:53.760 it yesterday. You saw this, it looks like an agreement between the Secret Service and the FBI to try to

00:29:58.640 pump this and let the FBI control all of the information, let them control when they release it, and let them

00:30:05.600 control the narrative. They don't have the authority to do that, Megan. And we should not allow them.

00:30:11.040 We should not acquiesce to that at all. Listen, if they want to do an investigation, that's fine.

00:30:16.380 But that should not be the end of the inquiry for the American people. And the FBI director,

00:30:21.040 he needs to come to Congress. He needs to be under oath. He needs to answer questions.

00:30:25.360 Yes. My team telling me, because the local law enforcement, now the state police commissioner,

00:30:29.040 they're on the hot seat this afternoon. State police commissioner just said during the hearing,

00:30:34.360 he believes there are eight casings were found on top of that roof. And that means

00:30:37.920 that would mean that eight shots were fired by the shooter in this case.

00:30:46.920 Had my life threatened more times than I can tell you from my political views. I've had my career

00:30:52.540 destroyed because of it. I had an agent who probably was 20 bears deep when he did it on the 4th of July,

00:30:58.380 send me a text and say, I'm feeling patriotic today. I'm going to drop you as a client.

00:31:03.240 Let me rephrase that. Here's what he really meant. You vote differently for me in the United States

00:31:10.540 of America. So you don't deserve to have the career that you worked your ass off for for 40 years,

00:31:16.760 and I'm going to destroy it and blacklist you. And that's what this piece of shit did. Pardon my 1.00

00:31:23.600 French. Okay. Now the good news is he lost his biggest client and so on. And then I said, well,

00:31:31.100 I've got to find a way to pull myself up by my bootstraps. And thanks to two wonderful people

00:31:36.040 in my life, David Wargo, my friend from MIT and my glorious best friend for my entire career in

00:31:43.160 Hollywood. And man, I helped get into the business, Chuck Roven. The three of us together, David and I

00:31:51.380 brought Chuck a book called American Prometheus and said, do you think you can call your associate

00:31:59.240 and friend, uh, Chris Nolan, see if you can get him interested in this project that we've been trying

00:32:04.640 to get off the ground for five years. And he did. And the rest was history. And I was able to thank God

00:32:11.620 myself up by my bootstraps and, you know, and it was wonderful when Chuck, uh, you know,

00:32:18.300 won the Oscar. And the first thing he did was thank myself and David first thing that was,

00:32:22.900 that was sweet justice. Even for me, James, even where I was just to see, I have to thank you

00:32:27.460 and see you back with the award winning. I mean, it won every award Oppenheimer did

00:32:31.600 and they had to thank that was sincere, but like everyone in Hollywood had to bow down and say,

00:32:38.040 this was a great idea. Yeah. And well, the nice thing about it was, look, if you can put anything

00:32:44.800 in Christopher Nolan's hands and he says, yes, they haven't opened up. He's a remarkable, great

00:32:51.260 sin. He asked his, his wife and producer partner, um, Emma Thomas, wonderful woman and Chuck Roven.

00:33:00.340 Uh, do you know that I, I'm the executive producer of Oppenheimer and you know, I did it all

00:33:05.680 on a handshake. We all just shook hands and we made that movie and we, well, we didn't make the

00:33:11.820 movie, watch the movie, Chuck. And of course, Nolan made the movie, but we, we, we were able to put

00:33:18.980 that together because these are decent people. By the way, Chuck is more liberal, you know, in his

00:33:24.620 politics than, than I am, uh, never interferes. We can talk about anything. We don't have to hate

00:33:31.080 each other. I'm going to say something on your show. That's going to shock you. I'm going to try

00:33:36.200 I'm going to lose a million followers on Twitter right now. I love Whoopi Goldberg. I hate her

00:33:43.700 politics. I think she's insane with her politics, but I worked with Whoopi on a movie, a ghost of 0.57

00:33:49.980 Mississippi. I got an Oscar nomination. It was a great experience. I got to meet Ben, uh, Evers,

00:33:56.060 you know, and, and, uh, I, it was just a remarkable experience. Whoopi and I had the best time

00:34:05.220 together. She was such a sweet person. We became great friends. I like her. And if Whoopi Goldberg

00:34:11.860 and I sat in a room, I'd sit down and go, who wants to start first? Cause no matter who starts

00:34:17.280 first, the person who starts is going to say, why are you so nuts? But here's the difference 0.97

00:34:23.400 between, I think, look, people say you're a conservative firebrand. I was a Democrat for

00:34:29.660 20 years. I'm not a conservative firebrand. I am a centrist. I believe in the constitution

00:34:35.200 of the United States of America. I believe in the laws of the land and you should obey the laws of

00:34:40.420 the land. If you're a citizen and you should honor your oath of office to support and enforce the laws

00:34:45.720 of the land. If you are an elected leader, I don't believe that somebody like Gavin Newsom can say,

00:34:51.660 well, you know, the state of California voted for the death penalty, but I'm just not going to

00:34:54.940 enforce it. I was like, okay, great. Then I'm not going to acknowledge your gun laws. I'm going to 0.71

00:35:00.180 run around with an AK-47 shooting up the sidewalks. Of course not. You don't get to disobey the laws 0.75

00:35:07.140 selectively, but Democrats do. We don't do that. Can I ask you about this? Because I love this. I also

00:35:14.940 have so many friends who are Democrats, who are liberals. I don't really have any woke friends,

00:35:20.720 but I do have a lot of dear, lovely Democrat friends. And I read that you're actually friends

00:35:27.240 with Rob Reiner too, who is one of the biggest drunk critic. That's a biggie. You worked very

00:35:32.960 early on together. I understand you maintain the friendship. Well, it was the same movie,

00:35:37.560 but, but let me say something about, about Rob. Okay. Rob Reiner.

00:35:42.040 Well, this quote's going to hear it. Rob Reiner is a patriot. And by that, I mean,

00:35:52.560 he is passionate about ideas that he believes in. Hey, it's the United States of America. You can

00:35:58.140 believe what you want. And the things that he believes in are to him, the way to make America

00:36:08.120 great again. Now it may not be great in the way that some of the ideas I'd like to see to make

00:36:17.820 America great again. It may not be that. We may not have an equivalency there, but I believe that he

00:36:25.520 truly cares about this country. And that's one of the reasons he's so passionate. I think he's very

00:36:32.140 wrong about a lot of his social aggressive ideas, but you know, he's entitled to that. What's

00:36:40.120 magnificent about this country is that Rob Reiner and I can be friends and completely disagree about

00:36:47.620 just about everything, quite frankly. But you know what? Rob fought for the studio, didn't want me

00:36:54.360 for Ghost of Mississippi. And I promised him, I said, if you take the chance and hire me,

00:37:00.420 I'll get you an Academy Award nomination with my performance, because this is an important story.

00:37:06.160 And it was, it was about the assassination of Medgar Evers, you know, and while hateful people,

00:37:14.660 oh, good, I'm glad that guy got shot. Let me tell you a wonderful story about that one.

00:37:18.060 We were filming in Jackson, Mississippi. I'm all made up in this makeup, be like Byron D.

00:37:24.480 LeBeckwith. Byron D. LeBeckwith happened to be kept after he was convicted for murder, for life,

00:37:31.840 instead of being in the state prison where he would have been murdered. The state of the

00:37:38.080 Commonwealth, Louisiana, is it a Commonwealth state? Whatever, of Louisiana has a responsibility to

00:37:43.700 protect their prisoners. So they put him in the jail in Jackson, Mississippi, in the county jailhouse,

00:37:50.540 which is above their, I think is above their city hall and so on. So he was in the jail,

00:37:58.480 in the hospital part of the jail, looking down on us when we were filming the story.

00:38:05.860 And I walk out of the limousine and I'm looking at the crowd and I look up and there's Byron D. LeBeckwith

00:38:11.660 in the jail window, hospital window, looking down on us. And I got a note to come into the courthouse

00:38:23.100 and a lovely lady, she was one of the corrections officers that was assigned to oversee him. And she

00:38:33.080 said, Mr. Woods, I think she was actually a deputy sheriff as well, or a police officer. I'm not sure

00:38:40.020 what her exact, but she was a law enforcement personnel. Very robust black lady serving her community. 1.00

00:38:52.020 And she said, Mr. Woods, it's a pleasure to meet you. Mr. D. LeBeckwith has asked if you might want to

00:38:59.760 meet him. She said it very cordially. And I said, could you tell Mr. D. LeBeckwith that I

00:39:07.680 declined the invitation? And as an amendment to that thought, I hope he rots in hell and has 0.99

00:39:14.660 his gizzards eaten out by wild dogs. And she says, you know, I always thought I'd like you. 1.00

00:39:23.260 You married? Did not see that coming. Well done. Well, wait, this is, so I've got to,

00:39:31.940 I got to follow up with this because I'm driving to something. You, among your many theatrical

00:39:37.840 accomplishments, you were in one of my, and I venture to say most American women's favorite

00:39:43.600 movies ever. A little film in 1973 called The Way We Were. It was a very young James Woods

00:39:52.460 playing opposite Barbara Streisand. You were pals on the college campus and, um, you, you know,

00:39:59.640 you weren't Robert Redford didn't have that role, but you were pretty, pretty prominently featured in

00:40:03.620 this movie. And one of the things that you helped her in was her on-campus protest. She was a 0.96

00:40:10.220 communist and you guys were young and believed in these leftist, you know, commie ideals. And we

00:40:15.720 pulled a little clip of it. And then I'd love to ask you whether you've maintained with Barbara,

00:40:19.800 what you've maintained with Rob Ryan. Watch.

00:40:22.640 Fuck up, Katie! Yeah, all the way to Moscow! 1.00

00:40:27.520 You can still take communion and like the Soviet Union. 0.90

00:40:32.100 What's cooking in the Kremlin, Katie?

00:40:34.920 The Kremlin is worried about the civil war in Spain, are you?

00:40:38.940 Thousands of Spanish citizens are being bombed and machine gunned and murdered.

00:40:43.580 Only one country is sending help. One country.

00:40:46.420 The Soviet Union.

00:40:51.260 K-K-K-K-K, be my k-k-k-comrade!

00:40:54.840 Oh, k-k-kay! 1.00

00:40:56.880 Okay, just a little snippet. But she's, she's gone pretty far left too. And I wonder whether there's

00:41:04.360 any relationship there.

00:41:06.060 Uh, you know, I bumped into her a couple of times and again,

00:41:09.300 you know, it's funny in our business, when you bump in to everybody, it's, I went, when, when I,

00:41:19.820 social media sort of changed things a lot. When I was kind of focused on social media as a more

00:41:27.040 conservative person, been blacklisted because of that agent's behavior, vile behavior, I, uh,

00:41:34.720 I went to an opening of a film, a friend of mine had produced, who was kind of new to the business.

00:41:39.520 And I thought, okay, I'll go. It was at the Academy, uh, theater. And you, you come down the

00:41:45.340 stairs and the place is mobbed. And I thought, oh man, I felt like, I'm just, you know, I felt like

00:41:52.780 that one guy in the famous pictures of everybody saluting Hitler and he's not saluting Hitler.

00:41:56.940 So here I am. I'm at a meeting of the communist party and I'm, you have that room. People come

00:42:03.540 up to me and go, Hey, I just, you know, I just want you to know I'm with you, but I, but you know,

00:42:07.920 I just don't want to say anything. And I said, and don't say anything. I said, because people

00:42:12.640 really are dangerous. They will, you know, that these casting directors now will look up your social

00:42:18.820 media history. They'll see who you follow and so on. Yeah. You know, I say to my friends,

00:42:23.700 I won't say who it is, but a very patriotic, great American who does wonderful things for

00:42:30.600 people in this country, supports veterans and a wonderful guy. He said, you know, being just

00:42:37.400 moderately conservative in this country, just being conservative, uh, in America today is like 0.86

00:42:44.480 being gay in the fifties. It's almost like you have to whisper. I see people say to me, we'll be 0.84

00:42:49.640 talking, they go, you know, I'm thinking of voting for Trump, but I go, you don't have to

00:42:53.460 whisper this. This is the United States. You don't have to whisper that you're going to vote for

00:42:59.600 the most popular person in the country right now, in terms of the polls to be the next president of

00:43:07.780 the United States. You actually don't have to apologize for exercising your first amendment

00:43:14.040 rights. And we've got to stop doing that. You know, but if you ever want to work again in Hollywood,

00:43:19.720 or if you want to make a career there as a young, different, different story, you must be, keep

00:43:25.120 quiet. Oh yeah. You have no chance. I mean, look, it's really funny. When, when Oppenheimer came out,

00:43:33.700 there was a discussion about my Twitter and it was gently suggested that I basically remain invisible,

00:43:44.720 which was painful. On the other hand, I'm a pragmatic person. And I thought a lot of people

00:43:51.660 put their effort into this. So I'm just going to be an invisible pariah because the people who are

00:43:57.600 going to be voting for Oscars, which is very important for a film to get Oscars, uh, because

00:44:02.620 it does help with the financial reward and the historical archive in which it will rest forever,

00:44:09.760 Academy award winning best picture Oppenheimer. You know, I don't want to deprive those people.

00:44:15.020 I don't want to have some nutcase come out of the woodwork, fabricate some ridiculous story 0.96

00:44:19.760 about me. I've had a million of them said they're all lies. I don't want that to happen and have the 0.99

00:44:26.660 clickbait story be, Hey James, what's the executive producer of Oppenheimer? We're not going to watch that

00:44:31.760 movie. So, you know, I just, I stepped back and basically, you know, took one for the team and

00:44:39.500 just, you wouldn't even know. I wasn't even invited to the producer's guild award. I'm a producer on the

00:44:44.340 picture and I was not invited to go to the producer's guild award, which is fine awards, by the way, one,

00:44:51.280 but you know, it's not that environment was not the one that my father shed blood for. Uh, it's not the

00:45:00.680 one that I see as the America. I would like to see my late brother, God rest his soul, my late

00:45:07.580 brother's children. And they're now their, their children, not the future. I see for them. I'd like

00:45:14.100 you to be able to vote for wherever you want to. And people say, you know what? You have a right to

00:45:17.240 do it, man. I disagree with you, but come have dinner and so on. And I just don't know why there's

00:45:23.880 this vicious underlying cancer that has destroyed our business. And here's where it comes from.

00:45:33.000 Oh, by the way, I got a little secret project coming out soon in October. Can't say anything

00:45:39.640 about it. Um, if you go to my website, jameswoods.com, there'll be a little hint of what it might be,

00:45:48.020 but I can't say another word about it because it's going to be, but some things are going to kind of

00:45:51.920 come out because, because I decided to embrace the second act. Oh, look at you. You are such a

00:45:59.700 little devil. I couldn't figure it out though. I have the picture, but I don't know what it's 1.00

00:46:06.160 telling me. Yeah. And you're going to have to think about this now for the next couple of months,

00:46:10.240 but we're going to be teasing stuff out. If you sign up, give your email on my, on the website. Um,

00:46:15.880 you'll, uh, uh, you'll be given updates on, on it. Um, it's, uh, it's a project that's just

00:46:23.860 unbelievably near and dear to my heart. And the good thing is I'm doing more stuff now. I'm,

00:46:28.400 I'm involved in the production of Oliver Stone's new movie. I love Oliver. He's difficult. We

00:46:34.280 disagree on everything. We fight all the time. And he came to me and said, Hey, Jimmy, you know,

00:46:39.660 you think you can help with this project like you did with Oppenheimer? And I said, I think I can. And

00:46:43.680 you know, I've got Chuck and Alex Gartner. And of course, Fernando Sulichin is, who's, um,

00:46:51.180 who's, uh, Oliver's, uh, producer. And, uh, the four of us are together on a handshake,

00:46:56.200 kind of just trying to get this beautiful project put together and we will, and it's going to be

00:47:01.020 fantastic. So, you know, F Scott Fitzgerald famously said, there are no second acts in American lives,

00:47:06.620 but my second act, they're shaping up pretty well. And I give all the credit to somebody who's

00:47:12.800 sitting there off camera. My absolutely beloved, brilliant wife, who Sarah, who is, she's like

00:47:24.060 this extraordinary photographer. Oh, there she is. That was just the night of the Oscars.

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00:48:26.680 Remember Venn diagrams, those three circles, right? And then let's just see where they overlap.

00:48:34.440 You will not be surprised because I have constructed a Venn diagram on this. Remember those three circles,

00:48:39.540 how they overlap? I love Venn diagrams. So I just do, whenever you're dealing with conflict,

00:48:45.780 pull out a Venn diagram, right? And so, you know, the three circles, the television coverage

00:48:51.800 of just yesterday that's on top of everything else that we know and don't know yet based on what

00:48:58.700 we've just been able to see. And because we've seen it or not, doesn't mean it hasn't happened,

00:49:02.540 but just limited to what we have seen. Welcome back to the Megan Kelly show. My guests today,

00:49:09.880 Charles CW Cook and Jim Garrity and Charles CW Cook was on to Kamala Harris for, you know, early on.

00:49:17.120 This was a piece on national review after she failed in her presidential bid. Remember she

00:49:23.500 took on Joe Biden to actually get the presidency and that nevermind the vice presidency that came

00:49:27.360 later. And he concluded this piece on December 3rd, 2019 as follows. Everything that is wrong with

00:49:33.540 American politics is summed up in Kamala Harris. She's a weathervane. She's dishonest. She's a coward. 1.00

00:49:40.120 She's condescending and she's a phony. She is the answer to no useful or virtuous question. 1.00

00:49:45.200 She has nothing of value to offer America. Goodbye. Bad luck. That's all folks.

00:49:52.280 So you're saying there's a chance she's going to get your vote.

00:49:58.100 You know, that post I think is correct. Unfortunately, it came in the context of my saying

00:50:05.220 good riddance from American politics because at the time she had flamed out spectacularly. 1.00

00:50:12.920 Not only had she failed to make headway and would end up winning no primaries, but she 0.97

00:50:20.840 was polling at 3% in California, which is her home state. 3%. And so she disappeared. And

00:50:28.480 I thought, well, that's good. We have now a great example of consequences for actions, but

00:50:35.000 apparently not. She was resuscitated by Joe Biden and put in the VP spot. And so I am now in the

00:50:44.480 unenviable position of watching an election between my two favorite people in the world, Kamala Harris

00:50:51.160 and Donald Trump. I think this is my fault, Megan. I moved to America in 2011. Since then, I've done you

00:51:01.860 guys no favors. Maybe I have to leave. But look, she is an awful, terrible person. And it's not just

00:51:08.380 that her instincts are authoritarian, although they are. It's that she actually doesn't believe

00:51:15.700 in anything. If you look at last time she ran for president, she said on two separate occasions that

00:51:22.840 she wanted to completely abolish private health insurance. On the first occasion, she agreed with

00:51:28.320 the proposition by putting up her hand. But the second time, she was asked about it on the stage

00:51:32.600 directly. And she said in this incredibly flippant way, yeah, that's it. We've got to move on. It's got

00:51:38.480 to go. Done. Now, 150 million people have private health insurance. And she was just going to get rid

00:51:44.140 of it. Well, this was not too popular. And she noticed. And so she subsequently said, I misunderstood

00:51:49.320 the question. No, you didn't. You didn't misunderstand the question. That's what you thought you had to

00:51:55.380 say at that point. Because if you go back to the 2019 Democratic Party, support for single payer was a

00:52:03.900 prerequisite until Biden won. And perversely enough, given the way he's governed, actually moved somewhat to

00:52:09.780 the right. And she is a catastrophe. And my only question is whether or not the press is going to be able to

00:52:18.280 turn her into something in a short space of time that will give her a good shot. I keep hearing skeptical

00:52:25.160 Democrats saying, look, we don't have enough time to introduce her. But I think the opposite is true. I think the

00:52:34.780 lack of time between now and the election is her greatest asset. If you gave her instead of a 0.99

00:52:39.020 runway of 106 days, if you gave her 300 days, I think she'd be dead in the water. 1.00

00:52:43.780 So on that point, Jim, there it's come to our attention. Taylor Lorenz of the Washington Post

00:52:49.280 wrote this up a couple of weeks ago, but it's all over social media that these young lefties are trying

00:52:55.900 to rebrand Kamala Harris's cringy moments as somehow cool. The language being used is

00:53:04.600 likable oddball, funny, relatable moments online. She's just goofy, quote, a wine aunt, which I've

00:53:14.260 never heard. She's like a wine aunt. It's fun. She's just a little goofy. And look at this, Jim. They 0.95

00:53:20.040 actually put together a remix using this song called Brat, which I guess is pretty popular,

00:53:27.540 a remix of Harris moments trying to make her seem just fun, just fun. Watch a little bit of this.

00:53:32.940 You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

00:53:38.140 You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

00:53:45.000 I'm just living that life. Fun Dutch cult classic, but I still pop every time my track drops, you're jealous.

00:53:52.500 I'm just living that life.

00:53:54.180 Everything is in context.

00:53:57.380 My mother used to, she would give us a hard time sometimes and she would say to us, 0.58

00:54:01.680 I don't know what's wrong with you young people.

00:54:04.180 You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?

00:54:06.440 You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.

00:54:19.140 I love Venn diagrams.

00:54:22.920 I really do. I love Venn diagrams.

00:54:26.040 Megan, if I were the Trump campaign, I would be running that in every swing state, in every

00:54:39.140 commercial break possible, just to say, yeah, yeah, Kamala Harris. She always seems slightly

00:54:45.240 inebriated as the slogan for 2024. And maybe she is. Maybe she is a fun person. I don't know if

00:54:52.420 that's necessarily the preeminent quality that Americans are looking for in a commander-in-chief

00:54:57.920 and president in the year 2024.

00:54:59.380 I don't know. Willie Brown seemed to think so.

00:55:00.960 I wasn't going to go there.

00:55:03.160 I'm going there.

00:55:04.600 I make a comment about crime.

00:55:06.040 There's a debate on this on Twitter right now about whether her sleeping with Willie Brown when 0.99

00:55:10.200 she was an up-and-coming, inspiring politician in San Francisco is fair game. It's fair game. 1.00

00:55:15.540 It's part of a pattern of her ascending to positions that she does not deserve based on merit for other

00:55:23.760 reasons. First, she slept with this guy, Willie Brown, who was this extremely popular, powerful

00:55:29.040 congressman out in California in the assembly out there, went on to become the speaker out there.

00:55:36.080 And he put her in two different positions that she did not deserve when she was only 29 or 30.

00:55:42.820 He was 60. Already, that affair is sus. And she was making the equivalent of 130 grand a year 0.98

00:55:49.600 by today's money for meeting twice a month for these medical boards in another position for which

00:55:56.080 she had zero qualifications. He was trying to lay the road for her political career. He admitted

00:56:02.040 that he's the one who helped her win the role as DA, and she was sleeping with him. I'm sorry.

00:56:08.320 It's fair game. Sorry, Jim. Go ahead.

00:56:10.100 No, Megan, let's just agree to say that she climbed the greasy pole of California politics. 1.00

00:56:15.960 Takes of talent.

00:56:18.560 But so, by the way, I think you look at the story of Kamala Harris, and you look at someone who,

00:56:23.880 from the beginning of her career as an assistant DA, to becoming, really, to the moment she runs

00:56:28.820 for president, it was one success after another. This was somebody who knew how to appeal to a

00:56:34.820 Democratic primary electorate in a place like San Francisco, and then to appeal to a Democratic

00:56:39.340 electorate as a whole, which is a whole bunch of liberal progressive Democrats, right? It is

00:56:43.340 surviving and rising to the top in California politics, besides any extracurricular activities,

00:56:50.260 is appealing to all the liberal interest groups. You've got to take care of the unions. You've got

00:56:53.740 to take care of Hollywood. You've got to take care of Silicon Valley. You've got to take care of the

00:56:56.640 environmentalists. It's like the stations of the cross. But if you take care of everybody,

00:57:00.840 then you get the nomination, and you cruise to victory in the general election.

00:57:04.660 That does not prepare you to win the Iowa caucuses. That does not prepare you to win

00:57:10.740 New Hampshire or South Carolina or any of these other states that are just politically and culturally

00:57:15.680 dramatically different to that. And I kind of feel like, even in that first debate, when she,

00:57:21.020 you know, calls Joe Biden racist, things are going well for her right up until the moment.

00:57:25.840 Tulsi Gabbard guts her like a fish by pointing out the contradictions in her prosecution record and 0.99

00:57:30.760 points out. You laughed on a radio interview about smoking marijuana, but you prosecuted this many

00:57:35.720 thousand people for marijuana possession back when you were a prosecutor. And it just goes through all

00:57:40.320 the contradiction. And I think Kamala Harris never came back from that. And I think everything from

00:57:45.060 the nervous laugh to the perception that she always feels like she's giving a book report on a book

00:57:49.440 she didn't read, you know, the phrases she keeps going, the haiku, Hallmark card stuff. I think it's

00:57:54.500 all nervousness. I think she stepped up and minds in that 2020 campaign. It all came crashing down.

00:58:00.620 And I'm going to quote Charlie back to Charlie, which I think is the ultimate compliment you can

00:58:03.880 give somebody, where he points out that like Joe Biden only became president because Barack Obama

00:58:09.380 picked him off the scrap heap of politics in the summer of 2008. And let's face it, most of us saw him

00:58:14.840 as assassination insurance, right? The idea of, well, you know, nobody's going to take a shot at Obama if

00:58:19.280 Biden's going to be a heartbeat away. And then Kamala Harris, as you point out, crashed and burned in that 1.00

00:58:24.320 2020 presidential campaign. And then because Joe Biden had promised he was going to pick an African

00:58:28.720 American and promised he was going to pick a woman, there weren't that many options. And he

00:58:33.060 picked her, which I think, you know, we can all kind of agree, did not work. And the fact that he

00:58:38.740 chose to run for a second term was an ipso facto declaration that he didn't think she could beat

00:58:44.840 Donald Trump one-on-one in the general election. And yet here we are.

00:58:48.820 Hmm. There's a, there's a very interesting Axios piece out, um, that says Biden doubted

00:58:55.480 Harris's election chances that he hesitated to drop his reelection campaign in part because he

00:59:01.260 and his senior advisors worried about her. They did not think she was up to the task of taking on

00:59:05.920 Trump. According to three Biden aides familiar with recent talks, according to the 2020 campaign,

00:59:11.200 he, his aides recall watching Harris interrogate her then chief of staff, Corrine Jean-Pierre,

00:59:16.580 to the point that it made others uncomfortable. I'll defend Kamala Harris on that. That's,

00:59:21.340 that's off. That's easy to do. I mean, you ask her anything, anything.

00:59:24.820 You watch any white house briefing and, uh, yeah, that doesn't seem more of the same. That's, uh,

00:59:29.680 yeah. I mean, you, she thinks the Nobel prize is the noble prize. She said it repeatedly, the noble,

00:59:36.380 it's not the noble prize. So yeah, that would grow uncomfortable quickly. Um, they said she wasn't a 0.68

00:59:43.020 team player. She straight, she stayed away from any task with risk. And then there's this nugget

00:59:48.780 in April, 2022, Harris was the guest for a dinner at DC news mogul, David Bradley's home,

00:59:55.860 a salon style event. Bradley hosts with Washington journalists and newsmakers.

01:00:00.100 Harris's anxiety about the dinner was such that her staff held a mock dinner beforehand,

01:00:04.260 a mock dinner beforehand with staffers playing participants. According to two people familiar

01:00:10.420 with the event, Harris's aides even considered including wine in the mock prep. So Harris could

01:00:15.820 practice with a glass or two. They ultimately decided against it. I I'm horrified by this story.

01:00:24.300 They did hold the mock dinner. They just didn't have the wine. Um, Jim, this is exactly what you're

01:00:30.280 talking about, that she's awkward. She's uncomfortable. She's socially not adept. And we can see all that.

01:00:39.560 Yeah. And I, so the first time I ever saw Kamala Harris was in 2012 at the democratic national

01:00:47.040 convention in Charlotte. She was one of the early speakers on one of the early nights. She was not

01:00:51.560 the star. It was kind of a, but she was the California attorney general then. And she was,

01:00:55.560 you know, kind of seen as a rising star. And I remember, it was only like five to 10 minutes

01:00:59.380 worth of remarks, but I remember watching saying, ah, you know, dang it. Here comes the next great

01:01:03.320 Democrat. Uh, here comes the female Obama, relatively young, relatively charismatic, relatively 1.00

01:01:09.120 attractive. And she's from California. She's got a, she's going to be the next, you know, 1.00

01:01:13.400 this is going to be really tough. I clearly, she had like five to 10 minutes worth of material.

01:01:17.440 Uh, and that, you know, but it's interesting to see somebody who was once so self-assured

01:01:22.560 now sex seems to second guess herself and be very nervous in these things, terrified of saying the 0.99

01:01:28.120 wrong thing. And then often ending up saying the wrong thing. Like, Oh, we, I've been to the border

01:01:32.380 when she had not. Yeah. And I've never been to Europe. Um, I do want to talk about Charlie's

01:01:38.900 reasons for disliking her because not only was there the thing about moving us all off of private

01:01:44.560 insurance, just with her magic wand, she wants to take away your health insurance and make you go 0.91

01:01:48.380 on the government dole. Um, but she also wants to take away guns. She's made that very clear. 1.00

01:01:54.140 She was a co-sponsor of the green new deal. Um, she believed Jussie Smollett. She called Jacob

01:02:01.640 Blake who pulled a knife on cops, um, a hero, something along those lines and more.

01:02:09.720 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

01:02:24.140 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - July 28, 2024

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