This week on The Megynkellek Show: On Labor Day, a special edition of the show features an interview with four brave veterans who served our country and spoke out together for the first time about the man who was the leader of their National Guard unit in Minnesota. I also spoke with Glenn Greenwald about what we re seeing from the Democratic Party when it comes to censorship of those whose opinions they don t much like, like former President Donald Trump. And I spoke with the host of the Real Clear Politics podcast and SiriusXM show about the Kamala Harris campaign, still whining about the debate rules for Tuesday s primary, and more.
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00:00:30.980Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:00:42.580Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and this weekend, best of special.
00:00:48.280We had a busy week on the show, beginning on Labor Day on Monday,
00:00:51.540with a special edition of the program and my interview with four brave veterans who served our country.
00:00:57.940They spoke out together for the first time about the man who was the leader of their National Guard unit in Minnesota,
00:01:04.900Tim Walls, who decided to retire conveniently right before the unit was deployed to Iraq.
00:01:12.080I also spoke with our pal Glenn Greenwald about what we're seeing from the Democratic Party when it comes to censorship of those whose opinions they don't much like,
00:01:20.860like former President Donald Trump, of course, but also those on the Dems side, like Jill Stein and Tulsi Gabbard.
00:01:27.700She's now a registered independent, but they didn't like her when she was an outspoken Democrat either.
00:01:33.040Matt Walsh of The Daily Wire was with me as well this week for the first interview about his new movie out next week called Am I Racist?
00:01:40.780You will see exclusive clips and enjoy this interview immensely.
00:03:20.980I know you wrote to Twitter and the CEO, Jack Dorsey, and asked him to take away the president's Twitter handle, his account.
00:03:31.280How is that not a violation of free speech?
00:03:35.140How would that not just be a slippery slope where they have to ban, you know, half of the people on Twitter?
00:03:42.820I've heard that argument, but here's the thing, Jake.
00:03:45.800First of all, a corporation, which is what Twitter is, does not have the, has obligations.
00:03:54.340And in this case, Twitter has terms of use policy.
00:03:57.840And their terms of use dictate who receives the privilege of speaking on that platform and who does not.
00:04:05.520And Donald Trump has clearly violated the terms of use.
00:04:09.100And there should be a consequence for that.
00:04:10.620I mean, think about that, trying to get the president of the United States banned from expressing his views on one of the biggest public platforms we have,
00:04:20.920because she thinks this is an outside person at that point, that he's violated the terms of use.
00:04:26.680Well, Megan, when she ran for president, and it was about six seconds because her campaign was such a failure in 2019 for the Democratic nomination,
00:04:36.960she made as one of her central planks a demand that Donald Trump be banned from the Internet.
00:04:41.120I remember very well she was on a stage with people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren,
00:04:44.940and she said, Senator Warren, I challenge you to support my argument that Donald Trump should be banned from the Internet.
00:04:52.140And even Elizabeth Warren was like, I don't know, that seems kind of radical to ban the elected president of the United States.
00:05:02.640Twitter, Facebook, Google all got together after January 6th,
00:05:06.340and they forcibly banned the sitting president of the United States to the point that even the Western European countries who hated Trump said,
00:05:14.200this is alarming, this is scary, this should not be happening.
00:05:19.540And I think it's sort of the thing where we're all inculcated from birth to believe that the United States is the home of freedom,
00:05:26.860that one of the things that distinguishes us is free speech.
00:05:29.580But if you start gradually eroding that one incident after the next after the next,
00:05:34.080you can get very, very far to a sort of authoritarian or tyrannical situation without really realizing that you're there.
00:05:42.840When you have people talking about banning, obviously, they wanted to put their political opponent in prison.
00:05:47.680They wanted to ban him from the ballot.
00:05:50.260But the first step was let's ban him from the Internet.
00:05:53.200Remember, these are the people saying, if you don't vote for us, democracy will die.
00:05:56.920And yet every single thing that is the hallmark of tyranny in other countries with their political opponents is everything they've been trying to do.
00:06:03.280And in 2019, Kamala Harris led the way on that.
00:06:06.240That was how she tried to distinguish her political campaign and gain support among Democrats.
00:07:19.360You know, this is I mean, this is incredibly alarming.
00:07:22.400If you look at pulling data, Megan, and you ask Americans, do you support either having big tech censor the Internet in the name of disinformation or the U.S.
00:07:32.440government censor the Internet in the name of Internet in the name of disinformation?
00:07:36.120Seventy five to 80 percent of Democrats want not just big tech, but the government to regulate and censor the Internet in the name of stopping disinformation, which is what George Orwell warned about.
00:07:48.740The idea that the government becomes the minister of truth, no longer allows free debate because they say this is truth.
00:07:56.840Well, oh, Elon Musk is allowing opinions that are false and therefore that's fake news and illegal.
00:08:02.880One of the things Zuckerberg said about covid was that so much of what he was being pressured by the U.S.
00:08:08.400government, by the Biden administration to censor about covid not only was entirely debatable, meaning they wanted him to censor things like it came from a lab leak.
00:08:18.540And he was saying, obviously, at the time, there was no proof on where the other people were debating it.
00:08:22.600They wanted to take down anything that might have come from the lab leak.
00:08:25.700But he said also they ended up since demand and we censor things that turned out to be true about the efficacy of masks, the dangers of vaccines, the absurdity of social distancing.
00:08:36.000So there if it would be one thing if if the government were saying we only want to censor things that are demonstrably false, that would still be bad enough.
00:08:42.860That's what we're warned about. But the censorship push is to censor things that are true or that are debatable.
00:08:50.080They really do want an Internet that is dissent free, just like so much of their media is dissent free.
00:08:55.540And what is more alarming than trying to turn the United States or any democracy into a system of closed information?
00:09:03.300What's crazy is a couple of the points you just mentioned are in the news today and on my agenda to go over with you.
00:09:10.360But that's why this story about, you know, kicking it off with what's happening with Brazil and X and then Kamala's position on censorship is so important.
00:09:18.680It ties into so much of what's already happening in the United States.
00:09:23.240So the Russia thing, right, like there's danger out there and therefore we must censor, whether it's the Hunter Biden laptop, which was censored wrongly or, you know, these evil forces who are trying to interfere with our election.
00:09:37.760Just Monday, this is in the news this week, the DNC called the Democratic, well, the Green Party presidential nominee, a useful idiot for Russia, citing Jill Stein's upcoming event in Tampa,
00:09:55.320in which she is expected to lend her support to three members of a black leftist group federally charged for allegedly acting as malign foreign agents of Putin's government.
00:10:05.920The quoting here from the bulwark dart dot com.
00:10:08.840So they almost they ignored this person for the better part of a year, Jill Stein.
00:10:13.320But now that she's doing this thing, they're coming out calling her a useful idiot for Russia.
00:10:19.720And this is what they did to Tulsi Gabbard, too.
00:10:23.700When she became a threat to their chosen nominee, she had to be dismissed as a Russian asset, not to mention what they did to Donald Trump.
00:10:35.760And the Jill Stein thing and what we're about to talk about with respect to this CNN report, it's just this is their go to bag of tricks.
00:10:44.360Glenn, that it's all the Russians, anybody who gets under their skin or potentially takes away one percent of the vote in a critical swing state is a Russian.
00:10:52.680And any problems of the Democrats own making, that's a Russian as a disinformation campaign.
00:10:58.540Yeah. So let me just mention really quickly this case of the black socialists who are being now federally prosecuted because I covered it a lot.
00:11:08.260Tucker had put them on his show quite a bit as well.
00:11:11.040Obviously, a lot of people's audiences would disagree with a lot of these people's views.
00:11:15.000But these are like 70 and 80 year old guys who are like old standard leftists who are spent their whole life opposing what they call NATO imperialism, U.S. militarism.
00:11:27.000And of course, it follows that they are against U.S. funding of the war in Ukraine that's consistent with their lifelong beliefs.
00:11:33.480But because the tactic of the Democratic Party now is to accuse all of their enemies, not just on the right, but as you see with Jill Stein or anybody who threatens their power, they just accuse everybody of being an agent of the Kremlin.
00:11:46.020They prosecuted these people because they were speaking out against the war in Ukraine and they had these very tenuous connections to a couple of peace activists in Russia.
00:11:56.000And it's so obviously an attempt to stifle free speech by saying that even if you speak out against our war, which is as foundational to the United States as possible, your right to oppose a government's war policy, we can now prosecute you.
00:12:09.600And it was AOC who led the charge against Jill Stein because they're obviously petrified.
00:12:14.360She's going to take away Democratic votes.
00:12:16.640And I've seen this now, Megan, for eight years.
00:12:19.180Our country from 2016 until 2018 was drowned as the main story in this false allegation that Trump conspired with the Russians to hack into the DNC.
00:12:29.600They unleashed Robert Mueller, Superman, prosecutor, FBI director with a team of unlimited resources and prosecutors.
00:12:37.880And at the end of that investigation, he concluded there was no evidence to support the core central conspiracy theory that the media gave themselves Pulitzers for ratifying that the two had collaborated and the media just moved on as if nothing had ever happened.
00:12:53.720And then in 2020, as you mentioned, the same thing, Megan, there is not one media outlet that in 2020 put people on the air to say the Hunter Biden laptop is fake.
00:13:34.000Even those 51 so-called intelligence agents, it's like the FBI agents took the stand and under oath in the Hunter Biden trial, testified that the laptop had been verified.
00:13:56.980And I was wrong at a crucial time in advance of that election.
00:13:59.900She's in the same bunker that Judy Woodruff of PBS is in right now, trying to avoid coverage of the fact that they got caught, I'll be charitable,
00:14:10.800making massively consequential mistakes on the air and failing to own up to them.
00:14:17.140So just to put some meat on the bones of the DNC versus Jill Stein attack, because Stein, while nobody's talking about her,
00:14:25.360she does have something approaching 1% in a couple of these swing states.
00:14:30.640And the Democrats fervently believe that she played a role in costing Hillary the election in 2016.
00:14:36.900So the DNC releases this statement that reads it in part, quote, as follows.
00:14:42.580Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia.
00:14:45.420After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016, she's at it again.
00:14:51.540This is from the DNC spokesman, Matt Corradone.
00:14:54.340Quote, Jill Stein, in a statement to the Bulwark, Jill Stein won't become president, but her spoiler candidacy that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in can help decide who wins.
00:15:10.220So this is them going, I mean, truly balls to the wall against this woman, the DNC, because they will kill any Democrat actor who deigns to get in the way of their chosen nominee's clear path.
00:15:26.000Ask Bernie Sanders, ask Dean Phillips, ask Tulsi Gabbard, ask RFKJ, and ask Jill Stein.
00:15:37.960This is the party of democracy, Glenn.
00:15:42.700I think one of the things that reflects about the Democratic Party is that they have this arrogant entitlement that they believe all of these voters are theirs.
00:15:51.300They also still blame Ralph Nader for George W. Bush's victory in 2000 over Al Gore.
00:15:57.280And all these voters for Nader and Stein will tell you until they're blue in the face that even if Jill Stein or Ralph Nader weren't running, I still wouldn't vote for the Democratic Party.
00:16:08.760I know it's a newsflash, but there are a lot of people in the United States who really don't believe in our two-party system.
00:16:13.800Most democracies have a multi-party system, and Jill Stein is an outlet for a lot of people on the left who think that the Democratic Party is not worth voting for for all sorts of reasons.
00:16:23.920And they think if they get rid of Jill Stein, those people will loyally march behind them.
00:16:28.500And also, I think the other important thing to realize here, Megan, is that in 2016, the DNC cheated to make sure that Hillary beat Bernie.
00:16:37.540That came from Elizabeth Warren in Donna Brazile.
00:16:39.600This is hardly speculation or a conspiracy theory.
00:16:43.980Yeah, I mean, the WikiLeaks releases prove that the top five DNC officials, including W. Wasserman Schultz, had to resign right before the DNC because they got caught red-handed doing it.
00:16:54.120In 2020, Obama drove everybody out of the race, Pete Buttigieg, Amy Klobuchar, to make sure Joe Biden won.
00:17:00.460And then this year, not only did they say that they would not allow a primary or any debates, even though you had RFK Jr. and Marianne Williamson and Dean Phillips wanting to run against Joe Biden, once they saw that Joe Biden was going to lose because of the polls after the debate, they said in a back room, let's just get rid of him.
00:17:18.040And impose on the party in the country, a candidate who never once campaigned to be president, who never got one single vote, the anti-democratic entitled mentality in the Democratic Party is impossible to oversee.
00:17:31.360Yes, we just pulled, I don't have the soundbite, but what they did to Tulsi.
00:17:44.120Former Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said the Russians are currently grooming, that's a quote, a Democrat running in the presidential primaries.
00:17:52.860This is the 2020 primary back in 19 is grooming.
00:17:57.220The Russians are grooming a Democrat running in the presidential primary to run as a third party candidate and champion their interests.
00:18:03.240The comment appears to be directed at Hawaii representative Tulsi Gabbard.
00:18:07.360She's been accused of being cozy with Russia in the past.
00:18:11.600Just being accused reference warrants it being raised again.
00:18:16.140You remember that time you were accused, random person, of being a pedophile and will just keep raising it in every article about you as though it was actually proven.
00:18:28.100But I think they've got their eye on somebody who is currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third party candidate.
00:18:37.760Clinton said, speaking on a podcast with former Obama advisor David Plouffe.
00:19:09.620She continues to be in the Army Reserves, sacrificing to defend her country.
00:19:14.020And here she is being accused by the Clintons, who famously avoided any military service, including in Vietnam, for all sorts of strange reasons, who never once did anything to benefit anyone but themselves, questioning her patriotism and her loyalty simply because she was a critic of the Democratic Party.
00:20:02.500Or was the vice chair of the Democratic National Committee, Tulsi Gabbard, that the minute you criticize them or don't fall into line, it means not just that you're a bad person, but that you're actually disloyal and somebody who can be called with no evidence a foreign agent of an adversarial power.
00:20:19.140It is remarkable how quickly and pervasively this tactic has spread, not just among the party, but among all their media allies as well.
00:20:27.620Okay, there was another piece of information on Tulsi just recently.
00:20:36.460It was that she's on a government watch list and connection with all this nonsense.
00:20:44.100She's been labeled a, quote, domestic terrorist, according to a whistleblower watchdog who's demanded an investigation into government surveillance on this.
00:20:54.740Okay, Empower Oversight said the U.S. Federal Marshal Service was improperly targeting individuals for enhanced surveillance on flights and named victims, including the former presidential candidate.
00:21:06.160And so this is the allegation is that she has been placed under surveillance at airports and on planes per these whistleblowers who spoke to, this is Daily Mail UK, the Air Marshal National Council, saying her name appears on the Quiet Skies program.
00:21:25.440Under the program, federal air marshals follow U.S. Citizens who pose an elevated risk to aviation security through airports and on flights.
00:21:35.980As a result, there are at least five agents stalking her on every flight she takes.
00:21:42.700This has not been independently verified by us, but I remembered the report as we got talking about Tulsi.
00:21:48.100And frankly, it's not hard to believe, given the amount of crap they've thrown at this woman.
00:21:57.440When you see somebody saying they are one, when you know they're not one, they didn't do all the sacrifice from the family and the personal time.
00:22:34.820But then he still walks through the halls and says he's a doctor.
00:22:37.680I mean, if a civilian saw that, he'd get thrown in jail.
00:22:42.040And, you know, this guy, he's a military impersonator with that.
00:22:44.940It's like, I'm using, you know, like you said, he's a retired Command Sergeant Major.
00:22:48.660He's said it so many times that it just makes a person sick here.
00:22:53.300Yeah, the state of Minnesota said that he can say he's, you know, he served as a Command Sergeant Major, which he's never said, I served as a Command Sergeant Major.
00:23:04.780And that's where, you know, this originally came out with me, like in 2015 and 16, because we had a Veterans Memorial that was getting dedicated.
00:23:12.660And he came down as the congressman, spoke to the small town.
00:23:40.380And I said, well, I figured somebody above me, whether, you know, whether at state level or, you know, somebody would have corrected him and told him, you know, cease and desist from what you're doing.
00:23:50.000You're lying, you're doing it for political gain.
00:23:52.500It's making you look better than you are.
00:23:54.680You're wearing a 12-point rack on your head, but you've got Bambi's body, basically, is what you're doing.
00:24:02.400Here's back to your friend, Adam Smith.
00:24:04.980And by the way, I mean, this guy's the ranking member, meaning the most senior member there is on the Democrat side, because they're not the party in power in the House right now.
00:24:11.980So he's the ranking member on the Armed Services Committee, speaking to this issue of Walls calling himself a retired command sergeant major.
00:24:22.440He was promoted to be a command sergeant major.
00:24:26.940So at one point, he served in that rank.
00:24:29.160Now, the way it works, which is not something that people who aren't familiar with the military would be aware of, you have to do a little bit more to be able to retire at that rank.
00:24:39.060OK, so it is not wrong to say that Tim Walls was a command sergeant major.
00:26:07.720Even Van Jones, I think is the guy's name on CNN, said, you know, just come out and have a news conference and come clean so we can get over this.
00:26:26.580Well, I sent the letter to the Armed Services Committee then, after I never heard nothing back from Jim Walz, and the Ag Committee, and everyone he was on.
00:26:35.120It was like, you know, this guy is lying about his rank.
00:36:28.700Most guys are trying to make sure if you ever overstate what they actually did, they correct you.
00:36:34.600People understand it's not just, we don't want to overstate our importance or the commitment that we made to the country or the things that we did for the country and ourselves and our families.
00:36:50.140But for what I don't understand this, when you say that you served in a function, that you didn't, if you served in combat, let's just go there.
00:37:05.140I served in combat here or I did this there.
00:37:07.980You are robbing, you are robbing that suffering and that commitment and trifling it down for all the men and women that we have sent in harm's way and have not come back or have come back less than the people that have their tortured memories.
00:37:26.140And everybody that did that commitment, you belittle it.
00:37:29.820You're taking a piece of their thunder and you're trying to capture it and putting it in a bottle for yourself and use that for your own benefit.
00:37:36.200That's why, like I told these guys, he is a self-licking ice cream cone.
00:37:40.120If anything he says can come back to him, he will do it in a heartbeat.
00:38:06.200And so the idea was, I mean, she made this big announcement that she'd thought deeply about this and she was going to go ahead and vote for Kamala.
00:38:13.100I mean, I just don't know what the, obviously it gets play in the media and on MSNBC because it's bad news for Trump or it's, you know, it's a bad headline for Trump or whatever.
00:38:22.660But to your point, Megan, like, who's this going to convince how this is, this is really not much of a story at all, in my opinion.
00:38:36.920I think it is crucially important for people to recognize not only is what I just said about the danger that Trump poses something that should prevent people from voting for him.
00:38:55.340But I don't believe that we have the luxury of writing in candidates' names, particularly in swing states.
00:39:05.400And as a conservative, as someone who believes in and cares about the Constitution, I have thought deeply about this.
00:39:12.220And because of the danger that Donald Trump poses, not only am I not voting for Donald Trump, but I will be voting for Kamala Harris.
00:39:24.980And yet, Carl, you've got tweets all over the Internet, including this one from August 2020, where Liz Cheney wrote,
00:39:31.040Kamala Harris is a radical liberal who would raise taxes, take away guns and health insurance and explode the size and power of the federal government.
00:39:37.200She wants to recreate America in the image of what's happening on the streets of Portland and Seattle.
00:40:12.220But so then you think, are they some of them want Trump to lose so that they can reconstitute, you know, bring back what they would call the norms or whatever, you know, bring back the old coalition.
00:40:54.740And so, you know, once you get to that point, I guess then you think, gee, Connell Harris would be a terrible president and the Democrats are their policies are awful.
00:41:02.520But I'm doing this to save my country.
00:41:04.580I think they've convinced themselves of this.
00:41:06.260I just don't think that this is going to have influence over a single American.
00:41:41.540Apparently, Andrew, there will be mics turned off during the other person's turn.
00:41:49.000So while Trump is speaking, her mic will be off.
00:41:51.840While she is speaking, Trump's mic will be turned off.
00:41:54.060This was the subject of debate for weeks.
00:41:57.360And the reports are that her team is very disappointed about this because she was looking to have what they're calling a, um, a Brett Kavanaugh moment with her where she, she got up in Brett Kavanaugh's face during the confirmation hearing.
00:42:14.460So how big an impact, if any, will this have on our experience of this debate on Tuesday night?
00:42:20.680Well, I guess marginally, uh, people are saying it's a victory for Trump.
00:42:24.900I don't think it makes any difference at all.
00:42:26.700Uh, I think they were going to debate no matter what.
00:42:48.360Um, there'll be no notes, uh, that you can bring.
00:42:51.360It's a standup debate, I believe still.
00:42:53.640So it will be all the rules that applied during Joe Biden's debate.
00:42:58.620And we saw how that ended up for Joe Biden.
00:43:00.620So, um, if, if, if, if I had to bet, I think he probably will have a good night and, uh, she's going to be, the bar's pretty high for her because she has not been doing any press.
00:43:11.660Talk to anybody been challenged in any way other than that CNN interview.
00:43:17.160Um, so we'll see what happens, but every, you know, the stakes are pretty high, I guess.
00:43:23.260Well, in the meantime, NBC news reporting earlier this week that this is how she's preparing that she's being coached to avoid being pulled into Trump's personal attacks by remaining calm.
00:43:33.300She and her team are focusing on how to needle Trump and rattle him.
00:43:37.660In that sense, the source said it's going to be less about substance and more about showcasing Harris as a woman who is not scared.
00:44:41.000And there was a report by, I think, CNN, who had a source, the ABC News, saying that the campaign, Kamala Harris's campaign, had gotten assurances from ABC that if there was some crosstalk, that the mics would be turned on and that the moderators would help inform the public about what was being said.
00:45:01.480So, you know, that was sort of a curious report.
00:45:04.900I'll be interested to see when this actually goes down, whether those mics are fully turned off the entire time or whether they, you know, they might be left on on occasion or how they handle the crosstalk between these two candidates.
00:45:17.700But you're certainly right that, you know, she's going to try and get in his head and say some things and, you know, try and get him to overreact and then, you know, play, perhaps play the victim or whatever the situation is going to be.
00:45:32.360And Trump has to be aware of that and has to basically not fall for it.
00:45:36.560And we'll see whether he's able to do that or not.
00:45:53.060The first person who showed on a presidential debate staff, the debate stage, that they could be simultaneously a woman and unafraid of Donald Trump was Megyn Kelly.
00:46:09.540And in terms, in terms of that microphone, I'll take you guys back when a couple elections even earlier, Al Gore is debating George Bush and there and Al Gore, Bush is talking and Gore was sighing so loudly into the microphone.
00:46:26.640Those of us who were in the hall there couldn't hear Bush.
00:46:29.340And I was sitting next to Frank Bruni of the New York Times.
00:46:32.280I said, Frank, is the air conditioning broken?
00:46:41.360But the next day, Barbara Bush and then Gore stalked across the stage at Bush.
00:46:47.500And Bush kind of smirked at him like he was, you know, bring it on, boy.
00:46:51.300And the next day, Barbara Bush was clutching her pearls on one of the morning shows.
00:46:55.340And she said, I thought he was going to hit George.
00:46:58.660And, you know, so some of these histrionics, these subtle movements, you know, when Bush's father looked at his watch during debate, they can matter.
00:47:07.360And so I, you know, so I think the mics turned, I guess I kind of prefer him just to be on all the time.