The Megyn Kelly Show - Best of the Week： Legacy Media's Failures, Noem's Disastrous Book Tour, and the ＂Mr. Birchum＂ Cast

00:00:00.580 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111, every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.260 I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, and today's weekend's best of special.

00:00:17.760 I was out in Los Angeles this week, having fun at the premiere of Mr. Burcham,

00:00:21.860 which is an animated series that's going to air on The Daily Wire Plus,

00:00:25.600 in which Adam Carolla stars, along with yours truly, Roseanne, and some other very talented people.

00:00:31.940 We had some of the stars on the show, including Adam, Kyle Dunnigan. So funny.

00:00:37.260 If you miss Kyle Dunnigan, please, I'm begging you to watch this. You will thank me, okay?

00:00:42.200 If you don't want to thank me, you will write me a note. You can email me at megankelly.com,

00:00:48.320 and you can tell me I was wrong, but you won't. You won't. You're going to love it.

00:00:51.520 All right? Plus, Vivek Ramaswamy joined me this week to talk about the state of the media

00:00:56.120 and the vibe of authority of the losers on MSNBC. That was a great exchange.

00:01:01.580 You'll see some highlights. Victor Davis Hanson, brilliant. He was brilliant talking about the

00:01:06.880 hate that we're seeing on college campuses today. And then there was Buck Sexton, who, man,

00:01:12.180 you thought I was into the Kristi Noem story, or you were? No, no. Buck Sexton made us look like

00:01:17.460 we were bored by it all. He really dove into the whole insane week that she had before she was

00:01:23.300 forced to cancel her book tour due to weather. Okay, Kristi, enjoy and talk to you Monday.

00:01:33.120 Here's a little example of how they reacted. You're going to be shocked. Shocked. Watch.

00:01:38.320 And the judge threatening the ex-president with jail time.

00:01:40.280 It is really clear that the judge is, depending on the seriousness of the next violation,

00:01:46.580 contemplating putting him in jail. And frankly, if that happens, it's not going to be because of

00:01:51.500 anything Judge Mershon did. It's going to be Donald Trump's own choice.

00:01:55.040 I know from my own reporting, I'm sure you do too, that Trump didn't eat on foreign trips because he

00:02:00.280 was so afraid of germs. There's no way Trump himself wants to go to jail. Certainly not many black

00:02:06.660 defendants who, if they came this close to the line, would have already been held in contempt of

00:02:11.400 court and would have been incarcerated by now. And so he is getting the duest of process.

00:02:16.440 And the idea that Donald Trump actually would want to go to jail is ridiculous. Anyone who knows him

00:02:21.160 knows that. He doesn't even like to stay in a hotel. He won't eat food when it goes on foreign territory.

00:02:25.960 You have to use the bathroom. His hair, his makeup, his skin, like he will be pulled apart.

00:02:34.380 He doesn't have the metal to do it. So Donald Trump is terrified. You've got to believe just

00:02:39.640 by his issues with odors and smells and fear of disease. He threw down the gauntlet. If he doesn't

00:02:49.480 throw Trump in jail, he would look entirely like a paper tiger. And Trump got that message.

00:02:55.580 How much bravado? This is not somebody who's thinking, you know what, I'm going to have a

00:03:00.960 really great time at Rikers. Can I just make this the point in the program when we say none of this

00:03:06.020 is normal? Oh my God. Honestly, Nicole Wallace is the worst. She's the worst. She barely moves her

00:03:12.760 lips when she's speaking. She barely has, it's just like a little hole that words come out of.

00:03:17.620 I can't quite get it. And she's so sanctimonious for vacant. She can't, she doesn't know anything.

00:03:23.620 She knows nothing about what Trump's habits are when he travels overseas. None of them does,

00:03:28.220 but they want to pretend like they're in the room with him in the bedroom, in the bathroom,

00:03:32.600 in the dining room with Trump. And they can tell you exactly how he's going to respond if he gets

00:03:36.880 a day in jail. Well, look, she knows nothing about Donald Trump's habits. She probably knows even less

00:03:42.280 about the law or an understanding or care about that as well. And I think that manner of speech

00:03:46.900 is really funny. I don't like to pick on these minor details, but you actually hit the nail on the

00:03:51.180 head there. It's all part of this air of sanctimony, right? The air, the vibe of authority,

00:03:57.300 without actually having any of the content of that authority. And I think that's what so many

00:04:01.680 in the modern media have actually become is the air, the genteel sort of atmospherics of having

00:04:07.520 authority in the manner that you speak, the sanctimony that drips from it, but without having

00:04:12.380 the first basis of an understanding of how the law or the constitution works. And so it's completely

00:04:16.360 backwards versus somebody who actually didn't speak with the right mannerism, but actually knew

00:04:19.940 what they were talking about. That would be far preferable to me. Now, the schadenfreude,

00:04:24.320 the level of rejoicing in somebody else's suffering, I've never seen something like this,

00:04:31.020 but we know that's exactly what we're to expect here from the media. They've been playing for this

00:04:35.160 for a long time. The entire plot has been to really portray Donald Trump as a criminal. That's been,

00:04:40.440 I think, a big part of the Democratic Party's goal in the subjectionable pursuit of prosecutions

00:04:46.180 against him. So it's no surprise that the media has played interference for them on so many other

00:04:50.240 topics is going to run interference here as well. I think that's the less interesting part than to

00:04:54.620 examine what is exactly the consequence here. Let's say Donald Trump is, God forbid, I think it'd

00:05:00.340 be bad for the country, but thrown in jail. I do think that they've kind of put themselves in a box

00:05:04.640 here because Donald Trump believes, I believe correctly, that this is an affront to the constitution.

00:05:09.140 He has a right to speak in the middle of an election. He's running to lead this country to be

00:05:13.560 the commander in chief. So for him to buckle at behest of what this judge who has no regard

00:05:18.720 for the law or the constitution on this set of issues, I think would be a bad outcome.

00:05:23.460 So I think Donald Trump should continue to express his opinions because he's running for U.S. president

00:05:28.940 and both he and the country deserve to hear his opinions on a matter of public importance.

00:05:34.000 But the judge has now put himself in a box going out of his way. He didn't have to do this,

00:05:38.320 but going out of his way to be able to threaten jail time. I think that that is something that

00:05:43.100 unfortunately sets this up as a reasonably likely outcome. And you know what? Donald Trump's made a lot

00:05:48.660 of sacrifices for the country, running for president, serving as U.S. president. This

00:05:52.400 wouldn't be the biggest of them. And so I think it would set a terrible precedent. I think it's

00:05:55.940 bad for the country, but I think it is reasonably likely that it does end up there. And as sad as

00:06:01.620 that is, it's exactly what you would predict once you've opened Pandora's box with these prosecutions

00:06:07.100 based on really no figment of the legal theory to back it up against a former president, a man running

00:06:13.400 for U.S. president in the middle of an election. This is just the necessary consequence and all

00:06:17.760 the drama that follows. It's unfortunately what they signed up for in the first place. And I think

00:06:22.420 that this is just the tip of the iceberg of what we're going to see in the next six months.

00:06:26.060 They're thrilled about it because they want his humiliation. That's what you heard them talking

00:06:31.160 about how, you know, he's not going to be able to have his hair the way he wants it. They want

00:06:36.300 his humiliation. That's why they were so angry that he leaned into his mugshot and went on the

00:06:42.340 mugs and it went on T-shirts. And so they're waiting for him to be humbled, to be humiliated.

00:06:48.820 And they keep waiting for the next chapter. Maybe Judge Mershon will get him there when he throws him

00:06:53.200 behind jail bars. And we can watch that and revel. The media, of course, has been a massive problem.

00:06:58.980 You experienced it when you were running and before and after. This is a small ball story,

00:07:04.140 but it's indicative. There was a reporter for NBC News and she moved on to CNN.

00:07:10.220 Her name is Michelle Kaczynski and she posted a thread on X last night. She was very well known

00:07:17.080 at both of those outlets. A thread on X last night revealing her horror at a dinner she recently had

00:07:25.340 with people who turned out to be MAGA. At first, she said, they seemed great on the surface for like

00:07:33.580 an hour. And then she says the closeted guests over a few drinks began to slip their true MAGA

00:07:41.660 natures. And she says she marvels at how a, quote, normal group of people could support a politician

00:07:48.680 like Trump, of whom she does not approve, going here from the Daily Mail report. One of the couples

00:07:55.460 attended top Ivy League colleges, she writes. But now that it was university time for their own

00:08:03.160 children, they were adamantly not letting them apply to any Ivies and were weird about explaining

00:08:08.220 why, though the kids were double legacies. OK, moving on. She criticizes their position on,

00:08:15.500 quote, climate change and the fact that they use that term in air quotes, not scientists,

00:08:21.300 clearly, and goes on from there. Now, Vivek, this is a woman who I've been around in the media

00:08:27.060 long enough to remember. Left NBC was pushed out, I believe, shortly after the following incident,

00:08:34.620 which went everywhere. She was doing a report on flooding after a hurricane in some American town,

00:08:40.600 and she did the report from a canoe as though she was stranded. This is the only way to get around.

00:08:47.940 And in the middle of her live shot, firefighters walked through the live shot with the water up

00:08:55.660 to their ankles. We actually pulled the clip just to show you. I mean, this is the dishonest media

00:09:01.000 in a snapshot. Watch this. NBC sees Michelle Kaczynski. I guess she's in the canoe is in Wayne,

00:09:08.120 New Jersey this morning. Michelle, good morning to you. Good morning. Well, obviously,

00:09:13.340 we're getting a nice break from the rain, but not the flooding. This is essentially now part of the

00:09:19.000 Passaic River in this neighborhood. I'll take it. Is there some kind of severe drop off there

00:09:23.140 between the foreground? If you'll go back, we saw these guys a second ago. Michelle,

00:09:28.140 are these holy men walking on top of water? What's going on here? Why walk when you can ride,

00:09:33.300 you guys? When you have a ride like this, why would you want to walk? Is your oar hitting ground,

00:09:39.120 Michelle? Of course not.

00:09:44.600 That was the end of her career. That's my opinion. At NBC, she was gone shortly there.

00:09:48.380 Now she wants to lecture us all on how evil MAGA is and her horror at being exposed to the closeted

00:09:55.860 Republicans and their views on the IVs and climate change and so on. What do you make of it?

00:10:02.500 The people at that dinner party remind me probably likely of the firemen who were just walking right

00:10:06.660 past her. People who actually probably had something more worthy to do that were actually

00:10:10.600 there for purpose, had little regard for her presence there or whatever antics she was taking

00:10:15.060 on. It probably looks like a woman who's been doing this her entire career. It seems like the same

00:10:19.840 pattern continues. This is a big part of the reason I'm actually ... There's a lot of things I'm

00:10:24.920 looking at doing with my time, but relaunching a podcast, why am I going to take the time to do

00:10:28.940 that is this gives me a motivation to exactly engage in the kind of conversations that American

00:10:33.580 people are hungry for regardless of what the mainstream media is stuffing down their throats.

00:10:39.680 I think it just typifies how the whole thing has actually become a charade. It's not just a

00:10:43.440 form of lying, Megan. I think mainstream media has lied about a whole range of topics and I've talked

00:10:48.180 about this extensively during the race. You've talked about it extensively for the last 10 years.

00:10:52.720 Nonetheless, I think it's not just the lie. It's the pageantry around the lie that I think is

00:10:57.820 actually far more bothersome. It's a production. It's almost like it's not just a lie. A lie is

00:11:02.440 anymore pretending to be that you're in the interest of objective news, but you're telling somebody

00:11:07.580 false information. I think it's become closer to like a Broadway production in the same way that

00:11:12.720 she's putting on a show. She recognizes, and they're even talking about it on air. Why would you walk when

00:11:18.460 you could instead be pretending to row? That's effectively what they're doing in the totality

00:11:23.260 of their other reporting too, is she could just be talking about the actual disagreements, the policy

00:11:27.100 disagreements that she has between Republicans who are in that same room. And there's such a more

00:11:31.580 interesting direction to go. It's like the equivalent of if she had just been reporting and interviewing

00:11:35.660 those firemen. But instead, what they're actually creating is an alternative production that,

00:11:41.180 you know, I think historically that business, maybe they think they're entertaining their audience,

00:11:44.900 but it isn't even entertaining anymore. And I think that once you see that, you get closer to the flame

00:11:51.040 of what's going on. It's not just they're spewing falsehood. It's like the equivalent of putting on a

00:11:55.640 theatrical production and one that, like most theatrical productions, is failing. And I think that that's

00:12:01.040 why it's going to come to an end very soon. You've set up my next clip perfectly, which is of Lawrence

00:12:05.480 O'Donnell, speaking of NBC. This is him on MSNBC, freaking out about the fact that yesterday at Trump's

00:12:12.700 trial, what they spent most of the day doing was documenting the payments that were ultimately

00:12:18.760 made to Stormy Daniels and the receipts of how that was done. Of course, no one's denying that

00:12:26.420 the payment was made, but they need to get that in front of the jury. It was not an exciting day

00:12:30.620 in court, but it was to Lawrence O'Donnell. Watch.

00:12:35.400 They wrote it down. The conspiracy was written out on paper. That is rare in criminal prosecutions.

00:12:45.160 Prosecutors are usually left explaining to juries that, you know, criminal conspirators don't write it

00:12:52.020 all down. But that is what they did in the Trump office on Fifth Avenue and in the White House.

00:13:00.820 Today, Donald Trump's jury was shown the handwritten conspiracy. Donald Trump's financial mastermind,

00:13:07.960 convicted felon Allen Weisselberg, put the conspiracy in his handwriting on Michael Cohen's

00:13:16.120 bank statement. And then another financial officer in the Trump shop, put the whole thing in his

00:13:22.420 handwriting on Trump company stationary. Final handwriting in the conspiracy presenters of

00:13:27.700 the jury today were Donald Trump's signatures. Oh, my gosh. He had a breaking news chyron up the

00:13:35.340 entire time breaking news. It's no one's trying to hide it. Right. We understood that these payments

00:13:41.340 were made. This was a perfunctory day in court. This was not the apex of the prosecution's case,

00:13:46.500 but the media can't get enough of it. It's like crack to them. That's right. I mean, it's an

00:13:53.380 addiction. It's a breaking news. He's like breaking the news, like breaking the existence of actually

00:13:58.560 distinguishing what is important to report to the public versus not. And it just bothers the heck.

00:14:04.240 I mean, he has no clue. And he's describing this to his audience base as they wrote down the

00:14:09.120 conspiracy. Just if you had any first idea of the backdrop of what this case was about,

00:14:13.860 like let's just hear the first clue about this case, this allegation of falsifying business

00:14:19.760 records, right, which is the first and state-based, the New York-based charge that Alvin Bragg is

00:14:24.700 bringing, A, that's outside the statute of limitations, but B, at most, even if that alleged

00:14:30.200 could be pathetic, a lot of that is actually also false and mischaracterized. But at most,

00:14:33.840 that would be charged and could only be charged under the law as a misdemeanor. Unless you make

00:14:40.400 up all of this other nonsense about this being a constructive campaign contribution that wasn't

00:14:45.980 recorded as a campaign contribution, which, as we talked about before, rests on a completely flawed

00:14:50.860 legal theory on its own. And it's completely misleading their audience of creating, again,

00:14:55.440 that atmosphere. It's all about atmosphere. It's all about vibe of pretending like this is some

00:15:00.960 sort of devious conspiracy. And you put up images of different handwritten documents. The audience

00:15:05.940 doesn't know what to make of it. And the whole point isn't that their audience is too stupid to

00:15:09.840 follow. It's the fact that these people were reporting to them, or actually too stupid to

00:15:13.560 report on it, but have just created this atmosphere, this vibe, the equivalent of that

00:15:17.640 other woman with her theatrical production rowing across that river when, in fact, somebody could

00:15:22.080 have just walked straight across it as we saw in real time. That's the equivalent of what they're

00:15:27.120 doing with their portrayal of these documents. When, in fact, the average viewer, if what you

00:15:33.760 need is actually somebody explaining to them what's actually going on, it's the equivalent of those

00:15:36.660 firefighters walking straight across. And that's what's missing in most of the media today. But

00:15:41.020 we can't just sit here and complain about what they're doing. They're in the dying business.

00:15:45.280 And what we need is more alternatives to people to be able to explain to ordinary Americans,

00:15:49.160 hey, here's what's actually going on. And more people are hungry to seek that information out for

00:15:53.020 themselves. They've been lied to systematically for the last 10 years. Most people understand the

00:15:57.920 basic premise that, you know what, you fool me once, shame on me, and fool me twice, fool me once,

00:16:03.760 shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me. And I think that people are hungry for checking what

00:16:08.800 they're hearing through MSNBC or through NBC News or CNN. And I think that's a good thing.

00:16:13.620 Columbia students right now, law students pushing to cancel all exams. Student editors at the

00:16:26.180 Columbia Law Review are urging the law school to cancel tests or at least make all courses pass

00:16:32.700 fail. Highlights from their statement. We urge the law school to cancel exams and give all students

00:16:39.220 passing grades. The violence we witnessed last night has irrevocably shaken. Many of us left us

00:16:47.680 and many of our peers unable to focus and highly emotional during this tumultuous time. I've got

00:16:54.380 news for you. The law is not for you. Pick a different profession. You know, maybe like gardening.

00:17:00.040 It can be mildly frustrating, but in general, stress-free. You should not be lawyers if you cannot

00:17:05.320 function or focus because you're too highly emotional after like some protests. You're going

00:17:12.640 to be dealing with murderers and child molesters if you do criminal law. Fraudsters who have completely

00:17:19.160 bankrupted people if you go into the more white collar. If you want to do civil litigation like I

00:17:24.280 did, you could be talking about people who are dead in a product's liability case. You could be talking

00:17:29.000 about 30,000 people losing their job if you fail to argue this motion successfully. If you cannot

00:17:34.780 function because you're a little stressed out, you're going to be a shitty lawyer. Find a different

00:17:41.060 job. It's not about canceling your exam. They go on to say this follows the growing distress that many

00:17:48.500 of us have felt for months. Our students are not well on that. I agree with them. Victor, this is so

00:17:57.320 pathetic. One thing that I like, I don't like it, but we have got moral clarity about all these

00:18:03.980 demonstrations. They've just blown up a lot of the left's charades. We've known, anybody who's been

00:18:10.700 in a so-called elite campus has known for years that they're mediocre. At Stanford, where I work,

00:18:17.040 they let in only 20% of the student body is so-called white. That's not important, but it is

00:18:23.220 important that they threw out the SAT and they don't rate comparative GPAs to achieve that. And so they are

00:18:30.060 letting in students who, by their own definition, cannot do the work that they themselves used to

00:18:35.980 require because they were in competition with other universities and said, we're preeminent.

00:18:41.680 Now, what are they doing? They're giving 60 to 80% A's at all these campuses. They're watering down

00:18:47.920 the courses and have the workload or they're introducing new courses. And then they're creating

00:18:52.540 these helicopter privileged, helicopter parented students and everybody's watching us. And they're

00:19:00.220 thinking, wow, these kids tore up the Portland State Library. They were like animals. They destroyed

00:19:07.860 it. Wow. Did you see what they did at USC and UCLA? They made a mess. It's worse than a homeless camp.

00:19:14.820 And then, you know, who has to clean it up? All these poor maintenance people. And they left up a

00:19:19.820 janitor at Columbia. And there's all these poor middle-class policemen that they spit in.

00:19:26.060 And then there's Byron Donalds come here and they call him Uncle Tom and a traitor,

00:19:31.720 this Middle Eastern students. And they shout, you know, go back to Poland or the final solution.

00:19:37.700 We don't like these people. They're spoiled. I think the Americans are concluding that they're

00:19:43.540 spoiled. We don't like these administrators and presidents that won't stop it. And they're scared.

00:19:48.300 And we understand why it continues. Because the faculty, the president, the blue state city,

00:19:53.960 city council, the blue city mayor, the blue state governor, they all agree with the agendas of

00:20:00.960 these left-wing students. And that's been really a lot of moral clarity. A lot of it is we always

00:20:06.780 were told you can be against Israel, but you're not anti-Semitic. They're showing you that they're

00:20:12.060 one in the same. Every time they try to rough up a Jewish kid or chase him into the library,

00:20:16.180 they never say, wait, before we do this, you look Jewish to us. Could I ask you if you support

00:20:22.360 Israel or not? They don't. And the same thing about, well, we're for Palestine, but we're not

00:20:27.360 for terrorists like Hamas. They are. They're the same. Their flags are there. They have Hezbollah

00:20:32.020 banners. And another myth that they blew up is, oh, the Democratic Party has this base,

00:20:38.940 the kind of crazy base, you know, transgendered issues, open borders, the squad, Bernie Sanders,

00:20:45.680 Elizabeth Warren, the Black Caucus. But this is not the, they're one in the same. Joe Biden cannot

00:20:53.380 open his mouth about any of this without saying Islamophobia. He cannot just say this is an

00:20:59.860 anti-Semitic. This is what the Democratic Party is in total. And Joe Biden, to the degree he knows

00:21:06.860 he's there, the people around him, his wife and the Obama advisors, this party now is completely

00:21:13.320 Jacobin left wing. And there is no base. And then maybe there's a Fetterman or two, but that's it.

00:21:21.200 And that party is committed to open borders. They're committed to these demonstrations. They

00:21:27.140 are anti-Semitic. They want, they do not like Israel. They rejuvenated Iran by design.

00:21:35.100 And that's who they are. And I think American people are seeing that today.

00:21:40.960 And the longer this goes on, it's going to hurt them.

00:21:45.060 The exchange between the protesters at SUNY New Paltz and the head of the school there, it was

00:21:53.160 infuriating. It reminded me of what happened at Evergreen in Washington state. The smugness of

00:22:02.440 these protesters as though they hold all the cards and the capitulation of the head of school who was

00:22:11.280 coming at it from the same angle, like he has no negotiating power and they're completely in charge.

00:22:17.700 It again, makes my skin crawl. Here it is a bit in SOT 3.

00:22:22.420 This isn't ending until our demands are met. We don't control the contract pieces the way you

00:22:29.600 laid it out. But it's our money. We can, we, we are giving you this money. And so we are paying

00:22:35.720 your, your bills. We are paying your paychecks. It is your responsibility, President Wheeler,

00:22:42.880 it is your responsibility to figure it out. What I would like to do is to be able to work with you

00:22:50.180 to bring your concerns to the places where they can make an impact. And you can come here. Okay. Come

00:22:55.600 back with what they say. There's a card with the demands on it. You can take it to your people. I

00:23:01.360 hear what you're saying. And I also have to say that I would rather let this not escalate

00:23:07.280 the way other campuses, because you all have done a phenomenal job. It's up to you. That is

00:23:12.240 your responsibility. A meditation will come from the police.

00:23:16.220 Good. I hope they, I hope they like, I hope that that gentleman gets, he likes this because he's

00:23:21.500 going to get a whole lot more of it. And so too will Northwestern, Rutgers, University of Minnesota,

00:23:26.680 all of whom have caved to the demands of the protesters. They're all on bended knee,

00:23:31.960 begging for these students to forgive them for being so awful. And their alleged support of

00:23:36.940 Israel, they're creating things like an Arab culture center at Rutgers, a department of

00:23:42.240 Palestinian studies. And on it goes, they, they're not fighting them. They're like, you know what?

00:23:48.180 You're right about everything. Take over our campus. And here's our new Arab center.

00:23:51.100 Yeah. And all, all he had to say was, I want to remind you, it's not your money. You pay tuition,

00:23:58.940 which is a fraction of our expenses. Here's where the money goes and comes from. It comes from the

00:24:04.600 taxpayer. He, they give us tax-free income on our endowments. They subsidize your student loans

00:24:11.980 to this tune of $1.7 trillion. They give us massive federal grants. The endowment, such as it is

00:24:19.820 at these schools, comes from alumni who give money. That was their money. And without it,

00:24:26.400 you wouldn't be here. You are subsidized in every aspect. You think it's expensive?

00:24:31.360 It would be twice as expensive. And he could, he could easily say that. All you have to do is,

00:24:38.020 I think just, we're just looking for one person who says, Ben Sassy was really good when he said,

00:24:43.620 no, we're not going to do that at the University of Florida. And they would fold. You just have to say,

00:24:48.100 we saw that with the Arizona State Union young woman who was kicked out. And she broke into tears

00:24:55.860 and sobbed. I can't believe this is happening to me. This generation is, they're hothouse plants and

00:25:02.440 they need to be exposed to the real weather. And I think it's, you know, I really, I know this sounds

00:25:08.000 crazy, but I really do believe after being on the Stanford campus and watching Harvard and Yale

00:25:13.980 and Princeton and Columbia, they are going the way of Bud Light, CNN, Target and Disney. They don't

00:25:22.880 know it because we're in the, you can't stand out and say, but a lot of people are not going to send

00:25:28.060 their kids there. And they're going to lower their standards to get more people to come in because the

00:25:33.660 top students will not go there. Employers will say, if I hire that graduate, they won't know how to

00:25:40.360 analyze. They won't be skilled in composition or oral fluency. They won't be mathematically

00:25:47.040 confident, but they will go to human resources the day they get here. And I don't want those,

00:25:52.900 I don't want those people in my, in my company. And I think that's going to happen.

00:25:57.220 And they're destroying their brand. It's amazing as you watch these students,

00:25:59.600 every time we see one speak up, like in that last video, it's very clear there's somebody who's

00:26:03.440 very gender confused leading the charge there. I don't know what it was, is it a he or a she or what

00:26:07.780 they go by. But Joseph Massey, our favorite poet, he was calling them Osama non-binary.

00:26:12.200 And that's exactly right. When you look at these videos, Osama non-binary would really want us to,

00:26:18.180 to offer more support for Hamas. And we're listening. These university presidents are listening.

00:26:28.540 She's been pretending to be ultra conservative in a very red state. And what she does

00:26:36.980 is the moment she's challenged on something, she runs the same routine, the same playbook that she

00:26:42.160 always has in the past. And like, for example, on the transgender bill, she tweeted that she was

00:26:48.580 going to do it. And then she just created this whole nonsense about how, well, no, actually,

00:26:53.180 I never said, well, it's in writing. You clearly said it, but she exploits, I think, a sense of identity

00:27:00.480 and a sense of people feeling like they have a connection to her because of her personal story

00:27:06.480 or whatever it might be. And then she always goes on offense. And so she essentially, there's like a

00:27:11.340 little mini gnome cult in the moment that you call her to, to account. She all of a sudden gets angry

00:27:19.780 at you and she doesn't take accountability for it. And this is by the way on COVID. She also decided not

00:27:25.100 to protect people from vaccine mandates, private ones in her state. Ron DeSantis made a different

00:27:30.420 choice, but she got very upset. That's one of the things that you guys, you guys fought over

00:27:34.900 and had to dust up, whatever. Here's a little bit of that from 2021.

00:27:39.820 When I'm not governor anymore, how do I know the next governor won't use that exact same precedent

00:27:44.720 to use it to limit the freedom? But you are the governor now, Governor Noem. And, and right now,

00:27:49.560 we're at a point where there are mandates going, people are having to get shots right now. People

00:27:54.480 are facing losing their jobs right now. Why not be a person who is taking a stand in favor

00:28:00.500 of individual freedom, which I believe is actually the primary purpose of the constitution. Why not

00:28:05.460 do that? And there is nobody in this country that would, would say that I, no other governor

00:28:11.360 took more heat over defending liberty and freedom than I did this last year. I mean, I think Governor

00:28:15.640 Ron DeSantis might disagree, but keep going. Keep going. You keep going back.

00:28:22.320 Oh, it's, it's just so obvious. And, and the truth is that she always points to not shutting down

00:28:27.400 her state during COVID, but I haven't even gotten to the dog shooting, the bragging about the dog

00:28:32.060 shooting. We're going there and we have the audio on top of the dog shooting and then making a joke

00:28:37.820 about how she wants to shoot the president's existing dog. This is like sociopathic. I'm sorry. I don't

00:28:44.120 want to jump around too much, but she's like a serial killer. Oh, I mean, on COVID, I sniffed this

00:28:49.420 out because she was playing this whole game and I saw what she did to Tucker on TV. And I've seen

00:28:53.960 what she's tried with other people, which is everyone else is dumb, but her, you know, when

00:28:58.420 you're speaking to some of the smartest minds in media, and you're speaking to people that have

00:29:03.340 been in this game a while, and your response is always, you just don't know enough, sir. This is how

00:29:08.300 we do it on the ranch or whatever. You're the problem. And that's been the case with

00:29:12.840 Chrissy Noem for a long time. Her aggressive strategy, the little cult she's built around

00:29:17.140 her and people all go, this is what I wanted to get to before. Anyone who's known my work

00:29:21.600 for a long time, I mentioned this to go on your show. I don't attack people on the right.

00:29:25.140 I generally have a no enemies to the right. I don't pick fights with people. I love, I love

00:29:30.660 the success of fellow radio hosts. I mean, I, I applaud the daily wire doing cool stuff.

00:29:36.440 I love Dan Bongino fighting for America. Like I'm on the team, but when I see somebody who's

00:29:42.320 being a fraud and taking advantage of people on my side who are well-intentioned and who

00:29:48.000 will want freedom and who want effective and competent leadership, it does bother me.

00:29:52.360 You know, when they're being lied to in a way that I think affects them. So that's where

00:29:56.300 the original thing with, with known came up. And now, yeah, I mean, I was right. I was right

00:30:01.100 all along and I'm right now. And some of the people that have emailed me, you know, years

00:30:04.460 ago, why are you being so hard on her? I was like, because she's a phony. And now everyone

00:30:08.560 knows she's actually kind of worse than a phony. She's a phony. She's a poser and she

00:30:14.360 won't be honest about her own shortcomings. Even when she's caught red handed that exchange

00:30:19.980 with Jesse waters. I don't have conversations about my, my, I don't about my conversations

00:30:24.100 with world leaders. I don't, no one's asking you about substance. We're asking you, did

00:30:29.800 you meet with him or didn't you? You're the one who brought it up, ma'am. You put it in

00:30:34.940 your book. Did it happen or didn't it? And by the way, when you then claim when it was

00:30:40.380 brought to my, who brought it to your attention? When, why did you read the audio book? When

00:30:44.300 you read out loud, I met with Kim Jong-un and I stared him down. Did it occur to you that

00:30:48.640 you were telling a lie? Because most of us would have a very clear memory if we had met

00:30:52.720 with the leader of North Korea. It's kind of a big deal. Did you correct it then? Were

00:30:58.120 you embarrassed? Did you go back through tooth and comb over your entire ghostwritten memoir

00:31:02.560 to make sure there were no other errors? Cause you also appear to have lied about a meeting

00:31:05.960 with Emmanuel Macron. How many lies are there in this book? And why should we believe you

00:31:10.480 on anything, especially now your revisionist history about why you really shot your puppy,

00:31:15.300 which she's now claiming the dog was basically a serial killer and not her.

00:31:20.320 It was a, it was a 14 month old dog of a breed that I'm familiar with and have, and have

00:31:26.180 dealt with in the past. The notion that that kind of a dog is a threat to people. She's again,

00:31:31.240 she's lying. And for anyone who's like, well, why are we spending time on this? She was the number

00:31:37.140 one VP candidate according to the betting markets. And this is the kind of thing in a super tight

00:31:43.580 election. What do I want? I want Donald Trump to win. I want Republican majorities in the house

00:31:48.620 and the Senate. I do not want some abject fraud to be the difference between victory and defeat for

00:31:55.420 the Republicans. How could I take any pride in my job? If I would be silent when I truly believe,

00:32:00.900 and as you pointed out, I believe that for a long time, that this is somebody who is dishonest with

00:32:05.620 her own supporters and is dishonest with the American people and also brings a kind of nastiness. And I

00:32:10.200 haven't even gotten into the personal stuff and I won't because I don't think I need to go there,

00:32:15.020 but we've reported on it. You have reported on it. Yeah. The audience, we reported on this show,

00:32:20.340 the daily mail's in-depth reporting about her alleged affair with Corey Lewandowski and the denials of which

00:32:25.320 were absolutely pathetic and transparent. And I believe 100% it happened. That's my opinion.

00:32:32.160 I have excellent sourcing on this and I absolutely agree with you. So I'll just, I'll say that. I

00:32:36.820 mean, I have a lot of people that I know in DC and in political circles and we talk a lot and guess

00:32:41.220 what? But I'll put that aside because honestly, I don't want to be, I don't want to be accused of

00:32:46.480 being, having a double standard because, you know, some male politicians obviously get away with a lot

00:32:51.240 of stuff in that realm, but on the telling people the truth about what you stand for and where you'll

00:32:55.720 actually fight and whether you're a person of any integrity whatsoever, Megan, I mean, I can't help

00:33:00.180 but laugh. She's saying she won't talk about meetings with world leaders based on a section of

00:33:05.520 her book where she's talking about meetings with world leaders. And she thinks this is, she prepared

00:33:10.580 this. She went on Jesse water show and Jesse was, you know, Jesse's a very nice guy. Jesse.

00:33:16.780 Too nice there. I mean, I think he, I mean, I liked, you know, again, see, I don't want to,

00:33:21.440 I don't want to attack people on the right. We have communists. I'm not attacking Jesse. I've,

00:33:25.960 I've known Jesse a long time. I think he would take my, my feedback as Jesse.

00:33:29.960 There's a different way to do it. I didn't mean it like that, but I'm just saying like,

00:33:33.020 even just, you know, I don't, I don't want to call him out for being a little too soft on the

00:33:36.240 interview, but I mean, I think he was, but it's okay. I really liked Jesse. But the point is she

00:33:40.820 thought that was, people are looking to her for an answer on this. She thinks that's a legitimate

00:33:45.580 answer and she's defiant about it. Notice there's no sense of remorse, whether it's a dog shooting

00:33:51.320 story, which she included in the book and people can, I love dogs and I tell everybody that. So

00:33:55.340 I'm very honest where I'm coming from. She included that in her book because she thought it made her look

00:34:00.660 like she makes tough decisions. So she should possibly lead America, not just as vice president

00:34:06.060 everybody. The whole game plan is vice president to president. And, and I'm sorry, like that to me,

00:34:11.560 it's just a bridge way too far for a person who has no record of actual legislative achievement to be

00:34:17.600 proud of and lies in a way that makes a mockery of all. It makes a mockery of all of us. Well,

00:34:23.480 we're going to pull the lever and be like, yeah, I'm so excited about the gnome candidacy. Really?

00:34:28.200 Let me let, okay. So we finally have, because the book hit today, including the audio version,

00:34:32.720 Kristi Noem in her own words, describing the murder of the 14 month old puppy Cricket.

00:34:39.420 We've condensed it into a two minute clip. Here it is. Cricket was a wire hair pointer about 14

00:34:46.620 months old. And she had come to us from a home that had struggled with her aggressive personality.

00:34:51.660 I was sure that she'd learn a lot going out with our older dogs that day. I was wrong.

00:34:57.220 Within an hour of walking the first field, Cricket had blown past the group, gotten too far ahead.

00:35:05.060 She'd flushed up birds that were out of range. She was out of her mind with excitement, chasing all

00:35:11.340 those birds and having the time of her life. The only problem was, was there was no hunters nearby to

00:35:18.120 shoot the birds that she was scaring up. I called her back to no avail. I hit her electronic

00:35:23.640 collar to give her a quick tone to remind her to listen. I then hit the button to give her a

00:35:29.340 warning vibration that told her to come back to me now. No response. The hunt was ruined and I was

00:35:37.480 livid. Some neighbors who recently purchased a puppy from us asked me to stop and to check on their pup

00:35:43.780 on the way home. Suddenly out of the corner of my eye, I caught a glimpse of Cricket launching herself

00:35:51.280 out of the back end of the pickup and racing across the yard. All three of us chased Cricket around in

00:35:58.440 circles, flailing after her while she systematically grabbed one chicken at a time, crunching it to

00:36:05.040 death with one bite, and then dropping it to attack another. She was like a trained assassin.

00:36:11.940 Eventually, I got my hand on her collar and she whipped around to bite me.

00:36:15.280 There were bloodied bodies and feathers everywhere. When I got back into my truck, Cricket was sitting

00:36:22.800 in the passenger seat looking like she had just won the lottery. The picture of pure joy. I hated that

00:36:29.960 dog. As I drove home, I realized that I had no choice. Cricket was untrainable and after trying to

00:36:37.180 bite me, dangerous to anybody that she came in contact with. A dog who bites is dangerous and

00:36:43.160 unpredictable. Are you listening, Joe Biden? She was less than worthless to us as a hunting dog.

00:36:50.360 At that moment, I realized I had to put her down. As I pulled into the driveway, I decided I had to

00:36:56.940 deal with this problem myself. This was my dog and it was my responsibility and I would not ask somebody

00:37:03.220 else to clean up my mess. I stopped the truck in the middle of the yard. I got out my gun, grabbed

00:37:09.160 Cricket's leash, and I let her out into the pasture and down into the gravel pit. It was not a pleasant

00:37:15.160 job, but it had to be done.

00:37:19.520 There you have it, in her own words.

00:37:22.700 So, a few things about this. And, you know, the people in your audience who are dog lovers,

00:37:28.360 I have a ton of them in my audience. I think they know where I'm coming from. I'll try to get past

00:37:33.660 the horror of thinking that this is some kind of a cool story to show that, you know, you'll make

00:37:39.760 the tough decisions, you know, to shoot your own. As a 14-month-old dog, I want to analyze this as

00:37:44.740 objectively as I can. Why is she including? And people say, oh, this doesn't matter. Really?

00:37:49.620 This person wants to be president of the United States. I think it matters a lot, actually.

00:37:52.960 But put that aside. And then also talking about how she shot the goat because she didn't like the

00:37:56.420 goat and everything else. Same day, by the way. And has video or has photos of her the same day

00:38:00.940 that she's put horses down? She takes photos of this to commemorate it. Like, does that seem

00:38:04.800 normal? How many people listening to this have photos of them celebrating horse put-down day

00:38:09.720 when they shoot their horse? Okay? All right. So, those are all facts. Those are not in dispute.

00:38:14.440 She brings up all of the issues of it being bad at hunting. So, are you killing it? And she said she

00:38:21.900 hated it before the incident where it tried to bite her. It sounds to me like she thinks the dog

00:38:26.580 isn't worthwhile enough to her as a hunting dog, so she's going to kill it. I mean, that's the part

00:38:30.880 or at least she's moving in that direction. And then when she says the dog turned around to bite

00:38:34.840 her, it didn't bite her. I have a puppy. Puppies nip and are playful and get overexcited

00:38:40.640 all the time. Somebody should look up the breed of dog that this is. It's not an 85-pound pitbull,

00:38:46.740 okay? This is a little bird dog. It's like a mid-sized sporting dog. The idea that this is a

00:38:52.000 danger to people, any dog would go after chickens. It's a 14-month-old dog. And she could have given

00:38:57.300 it away. Megan, this is a true story. I have a friend who is an absolutely avid hunter,

00:39:02.140 sportsman, everything else. He had, I think it was the same breed of dog. It looked very similar.

00:39:07.160 Was not a good bird dog at all. Just, he's like, it was untrainable. He loves his new bird dog so

00:39:11.940 much he had it cloned, which is a whole other conversation. So, he could have the same dog.

00:39:16.600 So, this guy's really into his bird dogs. This guy's really, you know what he did when he had a dog

00:39:20.560 that he couldn't train? He said, I hired everybody. He found a single mom who was a family friend who had a

00:39:25.100 little boy who wanted a dog. They loved that dog. What is she doing? This whole thing about how she

00:39:32.520 had to put the dog down, she had to go kill it? I don't know. Maybe give it a day. Maybe think about

00:39:37.720 it. This dog had lived with her for 14 months, never bitten anybody before. One bite, and she kills it?

00:39:43.480 This is horrifying judgment in the act, and horrifying judgment to tell the story. And I'm just going to

00:39:50.320 say this. There are people who, unfortunately, and this always happens, if you ask it at the FBI,

00:39:55.520 why aren't frauds reported more? You know why frauds aren't reported more? I mean, monetary frauds,

00:39:59.700 because people are embarrassed that they were taken in by it. So, the actual number of fraud that

00:40:04.480 occurs, the monetary number, much bigger than what is officially reported, because nobody wants to say,

00:40:09.860 oh, yeah, like, I sent the fake prints $10 million, or, you know, whatever. They'd probably tell

00:40:13.800 them that. But I sent them $50,000. You know, nobody wants to admit this. Kristi Noem fooled a

00:40:18.640 lot of people. And she fooled a lot of great people, people from rural America, people from South

00:40:23.700 Dakota, people who believed in her. And I understand that there is this sense, look, I voted for Mitt

00:40:29.080 Romney in 2012. Nobody's perfect, right? But let's look at reality, and let's see what she has shown us,

00:40:36.000 and let's make a conscious and real decision as Republicans to have some standards of truth and

00:40:43.740 forthrightness and judgment in our politicians. I mean, that's basically where I come down on this.

00:40:49.680 Yes, I agree with all that. I thought she was great, too. I admit. And we really wrestled about

00:40:55.680 whether we would even report the Corey Lewandowski news, because I really was her fan. But it was a big

00:41:00.640 story. And my feeling was, we would report this if it were about a man. If it were about somebody on

00:41:06.620 the shortlist, you know, being considered for VP, we would report it. And we're not going to treat her

00:41:11.260 differently just because she's a woman. So and by the way, there are pictures. And there's a lot

00:41:15.440 there's a lot behind that particular allegations. It does. It's not one of those things that was just

00:41:19.500 hurled. But the there's a lot to digest in here. And I wanted to make a couple of comments as well.

00:41:24.720 So she's upset because the dogs scurried the birds around when there was no hunter nearby.

00:41:30.640 To shoot. He flushed up the birds. She cricket out of range. Oh, dumbass dog who didn't understand

00:41:38.160 exactly how Kristi Noem wanted it to hunt, even though it was just a puppy. And she several times

00:41:43.540 the dog was having the time of her life. She talks about how she looked like she'd won the lottery.

00:41:50.660 She was the picture of pure joy. I hated that dog. Why did she hate her? She hated the dog. She

00:41:56.720 didn't hunt right on her first time out. The dog, by the way, had just been shocked. It's fine. I

00:42:02.160 understand the shock collar. And she hated her because when the dog was killing chickens, which

00:42:07.820 I'm convinced at least my Strudwick would do. And they see chicken the way we see chicken like food.

00:42:13.440 They don't understand, you know, the modern niceties of how you're supposed to be around

00:42:17.800 chickens. They see it's food. It's prey. And by the way, it's in the dog's nature. That's why you hire

00:42:22.660 it to help on a hunt to go retrieve the dog. I mean, the retrieve the bird. Anyway, I'm sure my

00:42:28.420 Strudwick would eat chickens if I put him around. And he's the sweetest lug that you'd ever find in

00:42:33.060 your life. And she seemed, if you hear the audio, to take delight in it. She wants us to believe that

00:42:39.160 it was a tough decision because it would be a tough decision for anyone else. It would definitely be

00:42:43.880 tough to decide to kill your innocent 14 year old puppy. That is a tough one. But it shouldn't have.

00:42:50.640 It wasn't for her because she was motivated by anger and she clearly hated her dog. And I would

00:42:56.040 submit is not an animal lover in any way. Absolutely. I mean, I would want to, why didn't

00:43:00.600 she include in this memoir, which is all an act of, let's be honest, political memoirs are an act of

00:43:04.940 propaganda, which propaganda is not always bad, but it's meant to, it's meant to be, this was meant to

00:43:10.840 be a launch pad into national, true national politics, a vice presidential or cabinet role and

00:43:17.080 a future run at the presidency for her. Everybody knows it. It's obvious from her little like

00:43:22.160 spokesperson who's running around sharing polls all summer about how she's the VP that they fear

00:43:28.180 most and all this kind of stuff. So this is not some, some theory. We all know what the game plan

00:43:33.320 was here. She's writing this memoir. Why not say, I mean, did she cry? Did she cry after she had to

00:43:39.780 shoot her own dog? Obviously not because she hated the dog. So she shot the dog in anger. Is that the

00:43:44.900 kind of decision that you make when you're in a bad mood? I'm going to go kill the family dog and

00:43:49.460 live with her for 14 months. By the way, depending on who you ask, puppies become adult dogs anywhere

00:43:55.020 from 12 to 18 months. So this whole game that some of the gnome supporters play, it's not a puppy.

00:44:00.580 I mean, it's basically a puppy. It's a puppy. Okay. And if, and if you're fighting about whether or not

00:44:06.600 it's a puppy, when you're talking about killing a dog under these circumstances, you're already losing.

00:44:10.420 Um, but I mean, it's, it's interesting to see. I'll tell you, I got a lot of pushback on my show.

00:44:16.800 You know, Clay is not, I have a dog. I grew up with dogs and I love them. And maybe I have an

00:44:21.200 irrational attachment to canines. Like I think that there are family members.

00:44:24.620 My audience is totally with us. There are some who said, all right, maybe,

00:44:27.480 but they could see why this is controversial as well. I mean, the vast majority are with us.

00:44:32.300 Clay, Clay, you know, my co-host on our fabulous show, uh, Clay tried to be very, he's not a dog guy.

00:44:38.280 Um, so he just took the perspective of to share this story is such political malpractice that that

00:44:44.660 alone. I mean, to think that people, to think that if you're going to win over suburban moms in

00:44:49.620 Pennsylvania and Arizona, which is the only reason you're being considered by the way,

00:44:54.360 that's the only reason you're being considered as VP. Correct. And the only thing here is to get

00:44:58.580 women, married women voters in the suburbs to really go for Trump. Okay. That is your life as VP.

00:45:06.520 You had one job and you're telling this story about, Oh yeah, on the ranch, we just handle the

00:45:10.960 business ourselves. The whole thing, it was political malpractice, but Clay wasn't coming

00:45:15.900 down on her as hard. I mean, I think it bothered him, but as hard on the shooting of the dog itself,

00:45:20.320 because people say, well, she was doing the whole, it was a danger. And what about old yeller? I'm like,

00:45:25.040 old yeller had rabies, everybody. Okay. It was a mercy. It was a mercy killing. Okay. No one's saying

00:45:31.220 that when you put it and then people say, well, I put my dog down when it was 15. I'm like, yeah,

00:45:35.220 it was a mercy after a long and wonderful life with your family. Everyone does what I don't know

00:45:40.420 people, but there's such a desperation to defend her horrible conduct. I bring it up because with

00:45:45.080 the North Korea thing, now it's fine. Now it's just the people, you know, now it's flat. Now it's

00:45:51.080 flat earther land. Now, if you don't see who we're dealing with here, do you know how many people

00:45:54.460 have met? I mean, again, I worked in the CIA. I ran two presidential briefings was me, the president

00:45:58.940 running it for the CIA vice president in the room. I have some idea of how this stuff goes.

00:46:03.040 The number of people who have met with Kim Jong-un who are American, who are senior level

00:46:08.360 officials, I think you could count them maybe on two hands, maybe on one. I mean, it is tiny.

00:46:13.720 It would be a huge deal. And what you're saying is the governor of South Dakota is not on the list,

00:46:16.700 Buck? I mean, I think this is when she was a congresswoman too. I mean, I haven't read the book

00:46:22.260 yet, but I'm assuming you're a no-name congresswoman from South Dakota and you think you're going to be

00:46:26.940 like chilling out with Kim Jong-un and staring him down. It's fantasy land garbage. But the reason

00:46:33.020 somebody could include that in a book like this is they're so used to just having the people who like

00:46:39.400 her and there are guys. And Megan, I can't speak from this perspective there, but you know, there are

00:46:46.300 guys who they see she's attractive. You know, I live in the real world. She's a, she's a good looking

00:46:51.240 woman and they give her more than a little leeway because of it. I'm not saying this is exactly what

00:46:58.580 pisses me off. Some people will accuse me sometimes of being too hard on my own sex.

00:47:02.580 It's not that I'm too hard on my own sex. It's that I have very high standards for them and I

00:47:06.040 know they can meet them. I refuse to lower the bar for performance for my own sex. I know what we're

00:47:13.020 capable of. We can be all the things and I don't, her behavior, her stories about herself are as fake as

00:47:19.560 her hair. It's gotten to the point where she's trying to glam herself up. She's trying to,

00:47:23.300 she has to decide whether she wants to be a pinup girl who's like got the guns and is super tough,

00:47:27.640 or she wants to be a leader who's smart and sober and could take this country into the next

00:47:31.760 generation. She's ruined the second possibility with all of this nonsense. I see her entirely

00:47:37.000 differently than I used to before. And the lying about it has made it even worse. I mean,

00:47:41.600 in revising the dog story in the wake of the controversy, she's changed it to the dog had attacked

00:47:47.740 people who that's not what you said in your book. That would have been a detail you should have and

00:47:53.100 would have included. All you said was the dog tried, but didn't to bite you, not people, not a

00:47:59.200 danger to your kids. And by the way, it was when you were trying to take a high value item out of

00:48:03.900 its mouth, a dead chicken, any animal would be reluctant to, to part with it. So she's lying even

00:48:11.040 in the wake of it. And by the way, did you see the reports today? She wanted to include this dog

00:48:15.940 story in her first book about not my first rodeo. That's what we had her on for in 21.

00:48:22.340 And some smart advisors around her said that would be very stupid. That's not going to have

00:48:28.940 the effect you think it is. And apparently now she has a different team. I'm Megan Kelly,

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00:49:30.380 I think it's fair to say that when we went on stage after the premiere of the first episode,

00:49:41.040 Roseanne stole the show. Yeah. Do you agree with me? I do. She was so funny. She's doing,

00:49:48.080 she was doing this thing where she was laughing loud in her Roseanne laugh at the whole show,

00:49:52.760 everybody's parts. And then when she got up there, she talked a bit about what it meant to her to come

00:49:59.540 back. This is her first animated series since the cancellation, first TV series really, since the

00:50:05.480 cancellation of her show. Were you surprised at how it still weighs on her? You know, I'll tell you

00:50:13.020 one thing I've really learned from celebrities is you think maybe they're wired different than other

00:50:21.660 folk and maybe they don't see things or hang on to things or, or, or they have so much money that it

00:50:31.400 really doesn't things sort of roll off of them because they land in this beautiful house with

00:50:38.740 beautiful accoutrements and drive beautiful cars. Most celebrities I know hang on to stuff and have

00:50:46.120 sort of just as much sort of rage, jealousy, animosity as anybody I've ever worked with on

00:50:52.660 a construction site that, and more like they, you know, it's really weird. Like if you talk to

00:50:58.840 Sylvester Stallone, you're not going to talk about all the victories. You're going to talk about

00:51:05.600 some movie that was supposed to, you know, he'll, you'll break, you'll talk about Cobra or Driven or

00:51:12.600 something like one of his movies. It didn't work that well. And then he'll go into this thing about

00:51:16.640 we had a good script and the executive screwed it up and they gave us this crappy director. And I was

00:51:22.440 like, okay, let's just talk about Rocky. Yeah. Right. You know what I mean? None of us is harboring

00:51:26.600 that for you. Right now they it's, but I think there is something in the achievers where they, every

00:51:36.040 pro athlete I've ever, any big time pro successful athlete I've ever interviewed can tell you when

00:51:45.740 they screwed up in the game in high school or when they screwed up in the game in college, like it's

00:51:50.380 baked into their mind. It's, it's, it's not the victories. They, they remember the losses and they,

00:51:56.080 they're really hard on themselves and they really dwell on it. I mean, Roseanne's not hard on herself,

00:52:02.000 but they're angry about the losses. Yeah. The woman who made a million dollars an episode

00:52:07.800 when she was the queen of sitcoms and, you know, 1991 dwells on the loss where it's, I look at her,

00:52:16.520 I'm like, she's Roseanne. You know, she's one of those people who, you know, by a first name,

00:52:20.320 she's so gifted. She got completely ramroaded by her fellow castmates by, uh, ABC, by the executives

00:52:28.220 and so on. And I think she must be past that, right? She's got to be past all that. It still

00:52:32.920 burns her. And she's still really, and you know, you think back to how they took that show away from

00:52:36.960 her when it was, she, she had brought it back and they were number one again. And anyway, so good for

00:52:41.780 you. It's the castmates. It's a cowardly castmates that drive me nuts. Yeah. Sarah Gilbert was the

00:52:46.200 worst. She's the worst. The worst. She's the worst. Are they friends? I mean, like we've been out here

00:52:51.700 for a long time. Are they actually like capable of being good friends? I don't know. Sarah Gilbert is an angry

00:52:56.680 bitch. I hate her. I did. I did her show the blab or the talk or the yak or whatever the hell they

00:53:02.920 call it, you know? And I don't know. She gave me some sort of 10 minute dissertation on what

00:53:07.300 lesbians were or something. I was like, Oh, shut up. You shrew. Okay. Speaking of sex lives, um,

00:53:14.940 let's talk a little Stormy Daniels because yeah, you, I don't know if whether Mr. Bertrand watches the

00:53:19.280 news, but, um, I think you'd have some strong opinions on the woman who took the stand yesterday in

00:53:22.940 the Trump trial. She, Adam, she got up there and I'm not going to, I'm not going to tell you about

00:53:28.340 her walk into the courtroom and her taking of the stand. I'm going to let, uh, our mutual friend,

00:53:34.280 Lawrence O'Donnell night, not true. Uh, tell us both about his impressions of her walking into that

00:53:39.720 courtroom. Watch this. The excitement and anticipation in the room hit a new high

00:53:47.480 at 10 32 AM. She entered wearing all black as if on her way to a funeral. Oh my God. The loose

00:53:56.540 fitting, plain black clothing draping from her shoulders to her toes suggested the modesty of a

00:54:02.940 none. The makeup was minimal the way she and the other moms and her neighborhood might look

00:54:09.780 when shopping at the local grocery store, the long blonde hair held up with a clip at the back

00:54:16.540 of her head, the way it might be in a utilitarian way while she was doing dishes or checking one of

00:54:22.940 the horseshoes on her horse. She was alone in the room with him that first time. This time there were

00:54:30.480 over a hundred people in the room, all watching her except him. Oh my God. The drama that he's,

00:54:40.580 I don't, I, you know what I want to say to all these adults who are in the news industry?

00:54:47.780 What did you go to journalism school for? This is a Mexican soap opera. You're not a journalist.

00:54:55.220 You idiot. Why did you do that? What compelled you? You know what I mean?

00:54:59.640 Was it to bust the lid off of stories like this? Is it to just use nothing but hyperbole to

00:55:06.040 essentially try to turn a zero burger into a double King cheese? You know, what, what are you doing?

00:55:13.160 Like, where's your dignity? I feel this way about almost everybody in media these days. Why are you

00:55:19.600 here? What are you doing? What compelled you to get into this business? What motivated you to get in

00:55:25.280 business? What would your dad say? Who paid for you to go to college and then journalism school to

00:55:31.020 see this sad sack on display? No, it's so true. They, but they can't help themselves. This is their

00:55:36.760 Superbowl, their Oscars in all of it wrapped into the world series wrapped into one. And this plus when

00:55:43.880 Michael Cohen takes the stand, this is the apex of their event. They wanted to hear her talk about

00:55:49.900 Trump and how brief the sexual interlude was because they want to see him humiliated.

00:55:58.320 Of course, of course it's it. A Michael Cohen is a spastic nut job who I interviewed on my podcast

00:56:08.540 once. And in the almost 4,000 podcast episodes I've done, it was the only time I said to a guest,

00:56:18.360 I am going to hang up. If you do not reel it in, like if you cannot maintain yourself,

00:56:25.400 I'm going to hang up. And I have a long fuse for nutty people. I, you know, I think the record

00:56:33.840 will reflect. The record will reflect. I started off with my family, went into my friends, went

00:56:39.860 into, you know, teaching boxing, working on construction site, doing love line. I've known

00:56:44.180 a lot of nut jobs and have given a lot of leeway. Michael Cohen was literally the only person I've

00:56:51.140 ever said, if you don't reel it in, because he was so agitated and kind of unprofessional and stupid.

00:56:57.620 I said, I am going to hang up on you. Wow. It was a January 6th thing where I said,

00:57:03.140 I think it was a riot, but I don't think it was an insurrection. And he started going insane.

00:57:10.820 Mr. President, I really wanted to ask you a question because recently on Cinco de Mayo,

00:57:15.240 you had a big party and you brought out the margaritas in the Rose Garden and had a great

00:57:20.540 time demanding that Congress demand or allow dreamers who have been model citizens, according to

00:57:25.420 you, come into the country and vote. And, and, um, that was very controversial. What, how did you,

00:57:30.480 did you drink those margaritas? Cause you said some weird things that day.

00:57:36.000 Yeah. At Rose Garden, was I, what was I doing while I was at the Rose Garden?

00:57:41.760 Well, you're the president and that's your garden.

00:57:44.960 President? I'd like to meet that man. I salute that guy.

00:57:49.260 Can I ask you, sir? I know this may be a little impudent, but you seem to get lost a lot when I

00:58:03.880 see you in these videos and you seem to have trouble with the stairs up Air Force One. I mean,

00:58:10.020 if it's not your age, what is it we're seeing in those videos?

00:58:12.640 Those are, those are, uh, those are fake films that they, they, they'll take a, they'll take a

00:58:20.840 perfectly good job. I, you know, I'll take my talking pills and I'll be, I'll be doing just

00:58:26.840 fine. Sometimes the stairs will come at you and then, and, and, and they'll, uh, they'll move that

00:58:33.560 things, that things on the conveyor belt, you know, if you're familiar with the plane stairs.

00:58:39.320 Oh, got to look really closely, I guess, to see it. I have to ask you about your revisions to title

00:58:44.920 nine. I have to tell you, I'm very unhappy with you. You made, you redefined the word woman. You

00:58:51.460 now said that biological boys and men in K through 12 and college can go into the girls' locker rooms,

00:58:58.060 into the girls' bathrooms. Why'd you do that?

00:59:01.160 That's right. That's right. It's the right thing to do. Whether, whether it's a boy having a boy,

00:59:08.740 having vaginas or penis, having girls, everyone deserves to go to the bathroom and in the same

00:59:14.280 place. And I stand, I'll stand by that. That's what I'll take care of her.

00:59:20.180 Would you want your daughter using such a bathroom with a biological man coming in?

00:59:27.140 Well, you know, who's to say, you know, my daughter could, uh, my daughter could have a,

00:59:31.980 uh, a penis or a vagina or a vagina or a penis. You know, the worst thing you can do is tell a man

00:59:39.140 that he has to have certain, uh, certain things. And I, you know, there's a stall there. You close

00:59:44.940 the door, man. Come on. Well, the other thing you did in your title nine revisions was you took

00:59:50.760 away due process rights for young men on college campus who, uh, campuses who get accused of sexual

00:59:57.860 assault. And, you know, it does occur to me, sir, respectfully that if you held yourself to those

01:00:02.700 same standards, when Tara Reed accused you of a sexual assault, you might be behind bars.

01:00:10.200 Oh, come on. I just gave her a nice little sniff. That's all. It's the difference between a sniff and a

01:00:15.420 sexual sniff. Big difference. But you're, you're assuming I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, um, um, uh, if you're,

01:00:25.400 you're assuming I'm, I'm doing, I'm, I'm sorry. Come on. You know, the thing.

01:00:32.140 Get your face out of your ears, pal.

01:00:36.040 What do you, you know, Mr. President, sometimes you refer to the dead people as alive and the alive

01:00:40.340 people as dead. That's happening more and more. What, what's like, do you not remember who's dead

01:00:45.120 and alive? Yeah. Well, you know, it's hard to, you know, you know, it's hard to remember sometimes

01:00:51.680 who's, who's a dead and who's not alive person. So I think what the best thing is we can do as

01:00:58.160 a nation is come together and just start all over. And, uh, just, if I, if I say, if here's the thing,

01:01:06.400 it's better than a Donald duck guy. That's the vote, man. All right. The guy's got orange legs.

01:01:12.840 Hmm. You know, before I let you go, I've got to let you respond to the criticism that was launched

01:01:18.820 the way of your wife at the top of the show. Adam Carolla came on and made a point. I confess

01:01:24.080 I've made myself in the past, sir. And that is that your wife has no business calling herself

01:01:28.460 doctor, that she's not a real doctor care to respond. Yeah. She's a real, come on. She's a real

01:01:36.080 doctor, doctor, uh, she's a doctor of, uh, she's a doctor of, of something, man. Right. What do you

01:01:44.380 say? She's, you could go to her, ask her. I go to her all the time. I say, Jill, what do I do with

01:01:50.440 this? You know, she'll say, get a bandaid or whatnot. And she's a doctor. You think, what do you

01:01:58.400 think she is? Oh yeah. She, I think she's got something approaching a doctorate, but not an

01:02:05.620 actual PhD in education. Jill. Hey, you're a doctor. Huh? What? What? Oh, you're right. She's not,

01:02:21.380 she's not a doctor. I've never asked her that before. You maybe should find a new doctor,

01:02:28.060 sir, to look after your neurological health. Thank you so much for being here. That's a

01:02:32.300 great honor to have you on the program. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you.

01:02:38.540 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

01:02:51.380 Thank you.

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