The Megyn Kelly Show - Best of the Week： Trump Trial Circus, Biden's Cannibal Lie, Smug Elites, and More

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00:00:30.680 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show,

00:00:32.540 live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:42.180 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly,

00:00:43.620 and welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show's weekend best-of special.

00:00:47.240 We had a busy week this week.

00:00:49.540 The first trial of former President Donald Trump

00:00:51.600 kicked off in New York City.

00:00:53.260 In fact, we have a jury.

00:00:54.820 Wow, they worked fast.

00:00:56.220 We got into some of the storylines in that trial so far,

00:00:58.420 including the judge going after the former president over supposed jury intimidation,

00:01:04.240 really, with Vinnie Paulitan and Janice Bilboer.

00:01:07.340 We also talked about some of the outrageous comments this week from Katie Couric.

00:01:11.680 Wait until you hear what she said about MAGA voters.

00:01:14.360 Joy Reid on DEI and more with Andrew Klavan and the fellas from The Ruthless Program.

00:01:20.160 And we had on our friends from National Review, Charlie Cook and Jim Garrity,

00:01:24.600 to talk about a bizarre, bizarre new lie from President Joe Biden about how his uncle got eaten

00:01:31.060 by cannibals, which didn't happen at all, and the implications it and other comments like it

00:01:36.620 are going to have or not have on the 2024 election.

00:01:40.340 Enjoy, and we'll see you tomorrow.

00:01:41.860 When they hear the concerns expressed by the right half of the country about, you know,

00:01:49.220 the policies that have gotten us here, the culture wars that have completely changed

00:01:52.620 children's existence, their safety and so on, they respond with just disdain.

00:02:00.540 I mean, just dripping, oozing disdain for these people who might object to their view of how

00:02:07.000 America must be, and that, unfortunately, leads me to Katie Couric, who sat down with Bill

00:02:13.020 Maher and said the following.

00:02:15.700 Take a listen to this.

00:02:16.540 It's not 30.

00:02:17.960 And I feel like, to your point, Bill, that socioeconomic disparities are a lot, and class

00:02:26.400 resentment is a lot, and anti-intellectualism and elitism is what is driving many of these

00:02:34.760 these anti-establishment, which are Trump voters, or anti-establishment voters.

00:02:41.840 So I think that is a huge problem that we have to address.

00:02:47.800 I mean, globalization and, you know, the transition from an industrial to a technological society.

00:02:55.840 I mean, I, and I don't know if you've ever been jealous of some, what someone else has

00:03:02.080 or resentful, it is such a corroding and bitter, almost vile feeling.

00:03:13.600 Wow.

00:03:14.720 Anti-intellectuals who are bitter, jealous, and corrosive over their envy for her half.

00:03:22.800 You know, I used to call these people elites without mirrors because they couldn't see

00:03:28.660 how awful they were, but I'm beginning to think that they're elite without windows because

00:03:32.460 they can't look outside and see that Trump, for all his flaws, gave us four years without

00:03:38.280 a new war where this guy has set the world on fire.

00:03:41.680 Biden has, in his weakness and his dithering and his complete, constant misunderstanding of

00:03:47.300 the world stage, has brought us very, very close to a widely extended war, not just in

00:03:53.600 the Middle East, but in Ukraine and with Ukraine and Russia.

00:03:57.180 He has his economics, they keep telling us that his economics are great, we just don't

00:04:01.540 know it yet.

00:04:02.440 They keep saying, oh, you know, like inflation is under control.

00:04:05.520 Well, first of all, it's not under control, but their idea of it's being under control is

00:04:08.820 that after, you know, years of it's being extremely high, it's a little less high than it was.

00:04:14.380 But eggs are still, you know, what is it, I don't know, 65% higher than what they were.

00:04:20.200 People see their bills, you know, they see that things are going badly.

00:04:24.800 We see that our cities, you know, they keep telling us how crime is down in our cities.

00:04:28.720 I don't believe it.

00:04:29.740 It's possible that murder is down because they've kind of been policing that, but I

00:04:33.900 don't believe that crime is down in cities where all you have to do is talk to people.

00:04:37.420 No, we're actually going to do a show on this soon.

00:04:38.460 It's a lie.

00:04:39.080 It's truly just a lie because crime spiked and then in some instances it fell a little

00:04:44.780 from this enormous spike.

00:04:46.120 It's still above normal.

00:04:47.200 And on top of that, they're not prosecuting anymore.

00:04:49.620 So the cops, many instances, they just don't even arrest the people because they know it's

00:04:53.320 going to be a revolving door out the police station with a note with a DA who doesn't

00:04:57.520 want to prosecute it.

00:04:58.560 Why fill out the paperwork?

00:04:59.780 Why do it?

00:05:00.620 Anyway, that's another thing.

00:05:01.800 But I'm amazed to hear the disdain.

00:05:03.980 Like the dreads, that was like another bitter clingers.

00:05:06.540 It was another basket of deplorables, these anti-intellectual, bitter, envious people who

00:05:13.420 are Trump supporters.

00:05:14.420 That's the problem.

00:05:15.520 They're bitter.

00:05:16.280 I mean, talk about not getting it, not even close to getting it.

00:05:19.820 I want to ask you about Molly Ringwald because before you became a star on the Daily Wire,

00:05:24.820 you were a star in Hollywood, screenwriting for many big movies and very well celebrated

00:05:29.660 in your writing as an author as well.

00:05:31.080 And Molly Ringwald, who was, you know, the star of the day when I was a kid, you know,

00:05:37.180 Breakfast Club and Pretty in Pink and all these amazing movies, 16 Candles, has now spent

00:05:42.960 most of her adult life, as far as I can tell, bashing them, bashing the movies. 1.00

00:05:46.860 She came out in 18 and talked about John Hughes and how the movies were too, I can't remember

00:05:52.640 her word, but it was something like too misogynistic and too Me Too-y.

00:05:55.780 And, um, she should have spoken out and now she adds this to her latest running commentary

00:06:02.000 at the Miami Film Festival last weekend.

00:06:04.220 Take a listen.

00:06:05.380 Those movies, the movies that, you know, are, I'm so well known for, they were very much

00:06:10.060 of a time, you know, and, and if you were to remake that now, I think it would have to

00:06:15.160 be much more diverse and it would have to be, um, you know, it, you couldn't make a movie

00:06:20.880 that white now.

00:06:23.240 Now those movies are really, really very white and, and they don't really represent,

00:06:30.120 um, you know, what it is to be a teenager in a school in America today.

00:06:35.520 I don't think.

00:06:39.060 I'm so sick of this nonsense.

00:06:40.860 So what you're, you're sorry that you were in a film where white people were the dominant 0.88

00:06:44.800 characters.

00:06:45.340 Just stop.

00:06:46.400 Let us enjoy it. 0.99

00:06:47.500 Shut up for that matter. 0.99

00:06:48.520 Go away so that we can just enjoy the acting version of you instead of the real, who gives 1.00

00:06:52.900 a shit what Molly Ringwald thinks about anything. 1.00

00:06:55.680 Just be quiet. 1.00

00:06:56.480 Let your art speak for itself.

00:06:57.800 We enjoyed it and you're making us enjoy it less with your political commentary.

00:07:02.340 You know, this is a real problem.

00:07:04.540 First of all, I have to say it back in the day when she was in her prime, I was madly

00:07:08.600 in love with Molly Ringwald.

00:07:09.640 So my heart is breaking just a little bit.

00:07:11.560 I'm, you know, I may have to recover from this, but you know, there is this thing going

00:07:15.000 on if you like movies, stories where everything you watch is an act of preachment, where they're

00:07:21.620 telling you not just what the world is like, which is what art is supposed to do.

00:07:26.000 They're telling you what they believe the world should be.

00:07:28.300 And if you don't like it, there's something wrong with you.

00:07:30.380 So everybody has noticed this.

00:07:32.440 There's no such thing as a white person married to another white person. 0.83

00:07:35.920 There's no such thing as a male hero.

00:07:37.880 I recently watched the three body problem, a science fiction, an adaptation on Netflix

00:07:43.180 of a science fiction novel, a novel of which I kind of enjoyed.

00:07:46.580 And it was really interesting because the heroes were hard driving physicists, all of

00:07:53.120 whom were women.

00:07:54.120 And the men were all these kind of slightly neurotic, passive, you know, support staff.

00:08:00.480 And I was watching this and going, I guess this is why they call it fantasy in science

00:08:03.800 fiction, because that's not really what the world looks like.

00:08:06.480 And it becomes kind of offensive after a while, because I don't care if you want to make a

00:08:11.520 woman a hero.

00:08:12.200 I don't care about who, you know, what color the person is.

00:08:14.960 I care about being preached to by people I happen to know are some of the worst people

00:08:19.100 in America.

00:08:19.740 You know, people who are working on their fourth wife, you know, they're driving to their

00:08:23.080 from divorce court and have to pick up their kid at rehab because they never took care of 0.98

00:08:26.600 them.

00:08:26.880 And they're going to stand up and preach to me about what my life should be like and what

00:08:31.060 the world should look like, even though it doesn't look like this.

00:08:33.480 So even when Molly Ringwald is saying this, she is essentially just kowtowing to an elite

00:08:39.780 cabal of mostly white people who are imposing this on artists.

00:08:45.660 So artists are being told what to say.

00:08:47.740 And, you know, I'm telling you, Megan, I experienced this only a little bit because I'm so ornery

00:08:52.120 at this point.

00:08:52.620 I just won't change anything.

00:08:54.300 But all I have to do in my last novel, I had a couple of remarks about transgenderism,

00:09:01.160 a girl going through a phase of transgenderism before returning to sanity, and they wanted 0.99

00:09:06.700 me to cut that out.

00:09:07.560 And I said, you know, I'll pull this book before I cut anything out that is true simply

00:09:12.320 to appease this establishment.

00:09:15.040 It is the establishment.

00:09:16.420 It's the powers that be.

00:09:18.020 So my question is this.

00:09:19.300 If the academy, if Hollywood, if publishing, if the news industry, if the deep state are

00:09:27.220 all telling us one thing, how is we supposed to think that they are serving the powerless,

00:09:32.360 that they are serving the weak?

00:09:33.580 They are the power.

00:09:34.900 They are the elites.

00:09:36.160 And so when Katie Couric says we're anti-elite, what she's talking about is, yeah, we're the

00:09:41.280 people.

00:09:41.980 We're, you know, we're in an uprising against a series of lies where they butchered children,

00:09:46.620 where they forced us to wear masks, they forced us to take medicines we didn't want.

00:09:50.600 Of course, we're anti-elite. 0.97

00:09:52.420 Our elites stink. 0.94

00:09:54.060 Our elites just went through years of screwing things up because a little flu passed through 0.98

00:09:58.600 town.

00:09:59.640 We get it.

00:10:00.840 You don't like us.

00:10:02.060 We don't like you either.

00:10:03.360 And yeah, she's right.

00:10:04.180 We are anti-elite, but only because our elites are so bad.

00:10:06.800 It doesn't mean that the people who are voting for Trump aren't elites in themselves.

00:10:10.260 That anti-elite, she's not wrong about that, but the anti-intellectual, like, okay, 0.99

00:10:14.600 right, because they're just a bunch of dumbasses, okay, tell it to Victor Davis Hanson. 0.97

00:10:18.440 Yeah, like, okay, but to your point, Melissa Chen, who's a great follow on Twitter, was 0.99

00:10:23.640 tweeting out about this NPR lady, the new CEO, and talking about how, you know, there's

00:10:28.720 a soundbite you referenced.

00:10:29.820 It's too long to play right now, but she basically says you can't find truth anymore.

00:10:33.320 You just have to make a good faith effort, basically.

00:10:35.200 You can't really find real truth.

00:10:36.280 And Wikipedia considers sites reliable under her, when she was at the helm, like Vox, Slate,

00:10:45.220 Mother Jones, The Nation.

00:10:47.200 You know what's not?

00:10:48.520 What's considered reliable?

00:10:50.180 The Daily Wire, Fox News, The New York Post, The Federalist, The Daily Caller.

00:10:54.760 That's her world of, we're just doing our best.

00:10:57.760 You know, we can't get to actual truth, but we're doing our best.

00:10:59.860 This is, if you think it's just the head of Wikipedia or the head of NPR or, you know,

00:11:04.340 these other organizations, you're not paying attention.

00:11:06.280 They're everywhere, and they're really trying to program how our children grow up and what

00:11:10.520 their values are and how we live and speak.

00:11:12.960 So good for you for pushing back on your book.

00:11:15.360 I'll give you the last word.

00:11:17.200 Well, I think this is one of the reasons why, one thing that I strongly believe is any idea

00:11:22.720 that you're going to transform Hollywood, transform the news media, transform the networks

00:11:27.160 is absolutely absurd.

00:11:28.820 The only right way for us to go now is to build a parallel media.

00:11:33.300 And the fear there, of course, is that everybody sections off and goes into their little niche

00:11:38.080 and only takes the news that they want.

00:11:40.000 And that's a legitimate fear.

00:11:41.520 But the more likely thing is that the people who tell the truth, the people whose predictions

00:11:46.240 turn out to be true, the people whose ideas are founded in reality and therefore make reality

00:11:51.560 better, are going to attract a larger audience.

00:11:54.100 And then we become the competition.

00:11:55.380 Like a phoenix.

00:12:00.160 Biden went to a gas station in Moon Township, Pennsylvania.

00:12:04.100 We've got a bit of the video from C-SPAN.

00:12:06.320 Take a look at the hero's welcome he got.

00:12:08.380 For the listening audience, there might be like five people.

00:12:14.440 All right.

00:12:14.900 This is like a few others.

00:12:17.080 I'd say we've got maybe a dozen inside.

00:12:20.100 We only have the video, not the audio.

00:12:23.700 No one looks enthused.

00:12:25.780 Everyone's just standing around.

00:12:27.080 Contrast that with Trump, who visited Harlem on Tuesday.

00:12:33.840 He went to the bodega where the guy, the worker, was attacked and fought back and stabbed

00:12:41.080 his attacker.

00:12:42.380 And Alvin Bragg, who's prosecuting Trump, tried to charge that guy with second-degree murder

00:12:46.640 and only when New York revolted against him, because the bodega owner had been attacked

00:12:50.760 himself, it was self-defense, did he drop the charges.

00:12:53.240 So Trump wisely went to that bodega on Tuesday and take a look at this.

00:12:57.940 This is in Harlem.

00:12:58.540 This is in Harlem.

00:13:01.680 Four more years!

00:13:03.580 Four more years!

00:13:05.500 Four more years!

00:13:07.520 Four more years!

00:13:10.460 I mean, it's hundreds deep.

00:13:16.640 That's amazing.

00:13:23.580 Charles, I know you can't go by crowd size in predicting who's going to get elected.

00:13:27.460 Otherwise, Trump would have won 2020 as well.

00:13:30.180 But that's Harlem, New York.

00:13:32.720 And Trump is like a hero.

00:13:35.840 Yeah, I think, as you say, you can't go by crowd size.

00:13:40.480 But what it does tell us is something interesting about the two candidates, in that Biden is,

00:13:49.220 if he is going to win, going to win because he's the safe option.

00:13:55.540 He's the default choice.

00:13:57.620 He's the fallback.

00:13:59.000 He's the guy that people who don't like Trump, for reasons good and bad, think that they have

00:14:04.820 to vote for instead.

00:14:07.060 He's not somebody that anyone in America seems to be enthused about.

00:14:13.660 He's not Bill Clinton.

00:14:15.480 He's not Ronald Reagan.

00:14:17.760 He is there.

00:14:20.640 Whereas Trump inspires responses.

00:14:23.500 He inspires reactions, both good and bad, and for good and bad reasons.

00:14:29.260 But he is somebody who does not yield yawns or the question who.

00:14:38.480 Everyone knows who he is, and they know what he's about.

00:14:42.900 And you're going to see a lot of that in the election.

00:14:45.280 But I do think you were right in your introduction to the question to note that this dynamic also

00:14:52.220 obtained in 2020.

00:14:54.040 In fact, Joe Biden hid away for most of that election, and he still won.

00:14:59.760 And I think this question is going to be, this election is going to be about which candidate

00:15:09.080 can maintain their hold on suburban middle-class voters.

00:15:16.400 Biden has a problem with them because of inflation and crime and his treatment of Israel.

00:15:25.160 And Trump has a problem with them because he's uncouth, because of what he did at the end of the

00:15:30.560 last election, which was a disgrace, because he's ill-disciplined.

00:15:35.080 And, you know, I think that's going to be where the elections won or lost, not in crowd size.

00:15:42.120 The problem for Joe Biden is not only that, you know, it's kind of an interesting bumper

00:15:46.240 sticker.

00:15:46.720 I'm here.

00:15:48.020 I'm here.

00:15:48.900 But for Joe Biden, he's there.

00:15:52.960 Hadn't heard anybody phrase it quite so succinctly.

00:15:55.620 He is the recommendation for him.

00:15:59.280 The problem for, yeah, what were you going to say, Jim?

00:16:01.200 My fellow Americans have a proud tradition of existence.

00:16:05.040 Exactly.

00:16:05.660 That's the early 1940s.

00:16:08.520 Me and Korn Pop.

00:16:09.480 Did you guys happen to see the video on X yesterday of that woman in Brazil who tried

00:16:14.180 to get some bank loan or payment that was owed to her uncle who is dead by wheeling the dead

00:16:21.980 body in there?

00:16:23.420 There's disturbing video, too disturbing to show.

00:16:25.860 She's got the dead uncle in the bank with her. 0.99

00:16:30.100 And you could see this is a dead man.

00:16:31.800 And she's trying to pretend that he's alive and she's talking to him to try to get him

00:16:35.040 to sign these however it would financially benefit her.

00:16:38.660 I mean, you know, I was just going to say it looked a little familiar.

00:16:42.000 You know, it kind of looked a little like Jill Biden. 0.88

00:16:46.080 That's not quite there.

00:16:48.180 We're still with I'm here.

00:16:50.140 But not making a lot of sense, Jim, not making a lot of sense, because I got to tell you,

00:16:55.120 he once again came out with a nonsense story about Uncle Bossy.

00:17:01.380 He can't go two seconds without telling another familial lie, something about his background,

00:17:06.420 his son, what have you.

00:17:07.580 The latest one is about Uncle Bossy, who to whom he was paying tribute as a World War

00:17:14.020 II vet who died during World War II.

00:17:15.660 And take a listen to what President Biden claimed about his long lost uncle.

00:17:21.640 We called him Uncle Bossy.

00:17:23.980 He was shot down.

00:17:26.220 He was in the Army Air Corps before there was an Air Force.

00:17:30.000 He flew single engine planes, reconnaissance flights over New Guinea.

00:17:34.660 He had volunteered because someone couldn't make it.

00:17:38.160 He got shot down in an area where there were a lot of cannibals in New Guinea at the time. 1.00

00:17:45.660 They never recovered his body, but the government went back when I went down there and they

00:17:50.500 checked and found parts of the plane and the like.

00:17:55.720 OK, so virtually none of that was true.

00:17:58.140 There is a dead uncle.

00:17:59.620 He died in World War II, was not in a single engine.

00:18:02.520 He was in a double engine plane, was not shot down.

00:18:06.020 Officials say that they don't know what happened to the plane, but both engines failed.

00:18:09.240 We know this because three died in the ocean, including his uncle, and one survived and went

00:18:15.180 on to tell us what happened.

00:18:16.520 There were no cannibals. 0.98

00:18:21.640 Fact check, Jim.

00:18:22.980 Megan, Megan, the cannibals swam out to the bottom of the ocean to where the plane was, 0.83

00:18:28.760 and then they ate my uncle.

00:18:30.000 Now, by the way, when you were playing that video of Biden in the restaurant earlier and

00:18:35.500 you noticed how nonchalant everyone was, that the president of the United States just

00:18:39.820 walked in there, I noticed that quite a few folks were seated and remained seated when

00:18:44.400 the president came in, which is, I believe, a violation of protocol.

00:18:48.340 Even if there isn't a band there playing Hail to the Chief, like, Megan, if Joe Biden

00:18:52.040 shuffled his feet into your studio right now and said, Megan, I got to tell you about my

00:18:56.540 uncle and how the cannibals ate him and how terrible that was.

00:18:59.740 It was right around, it was a little before I fought Corn Pop. 0.79

00:19:02.820 Like, you'd rise to your feet out of respect for the office, not necessarily an appreciation

00:19:07.700 of them.

00:19:08.080 Like, you just would do it, like, because that's what you do for the president, whether

00:19:11.000 you like the guy or you don't like the guy.

00:19:12.560 So one, it's kind of like, you know, some part of me as an American is a little disappointed

00:19:17.160 to see people not rising when the president enters a room, whether or not they like him.

00:19:20.760 And then the second thing is that this story, we've gotten used to the president talking

00:19:26.060 about his conversations with Helmut Kohl, who died been a year, Francois Mitterrand,

00:19:29.800 who died lots of years.

00:19:30.900 He mixed up Haifa and Rafa.

00:19:33.540 Like, okay, we're all kind of used to this.

00:19:35.740 But as a result of this, Biden really has no communications oomph anymore.

00:19:42.160 He only does events from between, like, you know, after 10 a.m.

00:19:45.480 and before 4 p.m., doesn't do a lot of night events other than the State of the Union once

00:19:49.260 a year.

00:19:50.780 Usually one public event a day doesn't, you know, goes back to Delaware, even if Israel's 0.99

00:19:55.480 about to be attacked.

00:19:56.180 He goes back to Delaware every weekend.

00:19:58.800 And he just doesn't, you know, he reads off the teleprompter.

00:20:01.340 His staff is terrified of him going off the teleprompter.

00:20:03.620 And we've all gotten used to it.

00:20:04.520 And we know that if he tells a story, you know, I was raised in a Puerto Rican, Jewish,

00:20:08.980 African-American neighborhood.

00:20:10.420 And that's how I was raised.

00:20:11.580 And we just, we know this is all nonsense.

00:20:14.180 We've heard these stories from our grandparents and our parents.

00:20:16.620 And we love our parents and our grandparents.

00:20:18.420 But we put, and we put up with those stories because we love our elderly relatives.

00:20:21.680 We don't love Joe Biden.

00:20:22.640 He's just a guy who showed up here.

00:20:24.880 Or as, you know, as one of the new inspiring slogan Charlie just came up with, he's here.

00:20:29.880 That's all you can say.

00:20:31.140 He's present.

00:20:32.160 For now.

00:20:32.600 As they used to say for Brooklyn.

00:20:33.620 Present.

00:20:34.160 Present.

00:20:34.760 For now.

00:20:35.240 Present for now.

00:20:36.260 That's it.

00:20:36.640 You guys know.

00:20:37.420 He's been wheeled into a bank somewhere as we speak.

00:20:39.680 I might have to show the video.

00:20:41.180 It's disturbing.

00:20:43.080 This is not the first lie about an uncle.

00:20:45.100 I know it's bad.

00:20:45.840 But I, like, you kind of can't take your eyes off of it.

00:20:48.680 Uncle Frank.

00:20:49.500 He lied about Uncle Frank.

00:20:50.520 Remember, he said Uncle Frank received a Purple Heart.

00:20:53.440 He said this back in October.

00:20:54.960 My uncle won the Purple Heart in the Battle of the Bulge.

00:20:58.180 And you guys fact-checked it and said, no.

00:21:01.540 No, we didn't.

00:21:02.620 There was no, absolutely no evidence that Frank Biden received a Purple Heart, either while

00:21:09.080 dead or posthumously.

00:21:10.920 His name does not appear on the two major databases of honorees, Traces of War, or the National

00:21:15.620 Purple Heart Hall of Honor.

00:21:17.200 So no Purple Heart for Uncle Frank and no cannibals for Uncle Finnegan. 0.93

00:21:24.000 But he continues to spew all of this stuff.

00:21:27.360 Now, you mentioned the Haifa thing.

00:21:30.020 This is actually kind of interesting and worthy of a soundbite.

00:21:34.060 We're going to play it.

00:21:35.540 This is really clear.

00:21:36.940 The Israelis are thinking about moving into Rafa.

00:21:39.500 And there's been a lot of news about whether they should, whether this is an appropriate

00:21:45.000 pause.

00:21:46.160 You know, a lot of people really want Israel to take care of it, to finish Hamas off by 0.99

00:21:50.340 going into Rafa.

00:21:51.440 And this is what Biden said, Satu.

00:21:53.160 And I made it clear to Israelis, don't move on Haifa. 1.00

00:21:59.700 It's just not.

00:22:00.920 I mean, anyway, I just.

00:22:06.240 Look what we did recently when Israel was attacked.

00:22:10.300 OK, I mean, how many times does this have to happen, Charles, right before somebody over

00:22:19.460 on the Democratic side says we're dead?

00:22:23.200 He he can't make it to, as you point out, October or November.

00:22:27.400 He can't make it that we're going to have one of these.

00:22:30.940 That's calamitous between now and then.

00:22:34.380 Or is it just he's polling within one point of Trump now in the national polls.

00:22:40.940 Things are tightening in the swing states. 0.99

00:22:44.140 Shut up. 1.00

00:22:45.700 Let's go, Brazilian dead uncle. 1.00

00:22:47.520 That's the plan. 0.95

00:22:49.800 Yeah, that's the plan.

00:22:51.540 That's the plan.

00:22:53.540 He is not up to being president.

00:22:56.020 You know, one of the really irritating things about the polarized politics that we live with

00:23:06.780 at the moment and about the fact that this is another election fought between Joe Biden

00:23:11.520 and Donald Trump is that whatever you say about either person, someone will immediately

00:23:17.100 pop up and say, but what about the other one?

00:23:20.560 All right.

00:23:21.040 But let's stipulate that.

00:23:22.340 Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Donald Trump is disqualified from being president. 1.00

00:23:29.840 Let's say that Donald Trump is a pathological liar. 0.99

00:23:35.220 Then we can evaluate Biden. 0.99

00:23:38.280 So Biden, as we established in the last segment, and anyone who has looked at the last 40 years 0.98

00:23:45.320 of Biden's public career can attest, is a habitual liar. 0.98

00:23:52.340 The man lies about everything. 1.00

00:23:56.080 He makes up stories. 0.63

00:23:58.120 He contradicts himself.

00:24:00.580 He bends and twists other people's grief so that he can spin stories of his own suffering

00:24:10.200 that mostly are not true.

00:24:14.380 Biden's relationship with the truth is disgraceful.

00:24:18.160 And saying, but what about Trump, doesn't change that.

00:24:20.860 The same is true with his abilities as a president or lack thereof.

00:24:27.940 Again, forget Trump.

00:24:29.920 I'm not saying this is the view that everyone should take, but just for the sake of this

00:24:35.020 conversation, let's say everything that everyone says about Trump is true.

00:24:40.040 Now let's talk about Biden and that clip.

00:24:42.420 There is no one, there is no one in this country who would look at that man, absent a desire

00:24:52.220 for him to beat someone else and say he should be president.

00:24:57.000 He is quite clearly in and of itself per se unfit to be president.

00:25:02.800 He's too old.

00:25:05.320 He doesn't know what's going on.

00:25:07.700 He projects no confidence or ability or knowledge.

00:25:12.860 I don't mean this in a conspiratorial sense.

00:25:16.540 Quite clearly his staff are running the show.

00:25:20.680 This is embarrassing.

00:25:22.080 It's a huge problem.

00:25:22.980 And all you need to do if you want confirmation of this is ask people in other countries who

00:25:28.040 tend to be left of center relative to the United States whether or not they think Joe

00:25:32.760 Biden is up to being president.

00:25:34.900 And they will laugh immediately.

00:25:37.480 They will laugh and say, no, he looks like a skull.

00:25:40.860 This is a problem.

00:25:42.480 And I think because we've got into this horrendous dichotomy, once again, Trump v.

00:25:48.500 Biden, hurrah, then we've almost lost our ability to evaluate and interrogate these questions

00:25:55.480 in and of themselves without reference to the other person.

00:25:59.000 But once you do it, you want to have a very stiff drink very soon.

00:26:04.900 Trump today was out there saying, I can't believe we weren't able to strike more jurors.

00:26:11.160 But the problem is you have these peremptory challenges and then you have challenges for

00:26:14.960 cause and your peremptory ones where you can just bounce them for no reason.

00:26:20.040 You don't have to tell the judge why you're bouncing them are limited in number.

00:26:24.580 And I think each side has used six and they only get 10.

00:26:30.580 Do I have my numbers right?

00:26:32.080 Correct.

00:26:32.660 You are correct.

00:26:33.300 They can only bounce four more without telling the judge why they're bouncing him or her.

00:26:38.680 All the others have to be for cause.

00:26:41.520 And you tell me, John, I was saying like, judge, they read the Washington Post and the New York

00:26:46.740 Times.

00:26:47.680 That's not going to do it.

00:26:50.640 That's true.

00:26:51.500 And when you're selecting a jury, you don't want to waste your challenges because you don't

00:26:57.040 know who's coming in the room.

00:26:59.240 You don't know who's going to be seated in that box that you're going to question.

00:27:01.800 So you kind of have to hedge your bets a little bit.

00:27:04.820 And that's probably what's going on here.

00:27:06.680 And based on what this judge has ruled thus far up to this point, not just in jury selection,

00:27:12.660 he's not going to err on the side of Donald Trump.

00:27:17.960 And if I can talk about this last year specifically, I'm all for attorneys being on the jury panel.

00:27:23.240 I think attorneys should take over if they get seated on a jury. 0.93

00:27:26.360 But this guy, this guy is a little scary because he knew how to stay middle of the darn road. 0.92

00:27:34.080 And those are the juries, the jurors that are trying to be jurors. 0.92

00:27:39.120 What attorney do you guys know?

00:27:40.940 Both lawyers.

00:27:41.960 What attorney do you know who'd want to be on any jury unless it's Donald Trump or maybe

00:27:48.540 Johnny Depp?

00:27:49.820 Nobody.

00:27:50.240 I wanted to be on a jury.

00:27:53.080 I just served on a jury.

00:27:54.640 I just served on a jury too.

00:27:56.620 You did not.

00:27:57.700 Oh my goodness.

00:27:59.240 Greatest experience ever.

00:28:01.120 What kind of case was it?

00:28:02.940 I had a plaintiff's case.

00:28:04.300 And it was a man who had three fingertips severed and was suing the doctor who successfully reattached

00:28:11.780 two of them, but they were transposed.

00:28:14.840 So his middle fingertip was on his pointer finger.

00:28:17.540 Oh my God.

00:28:20.340 No liability.

00:28:22.060 No liability.

00:28:23.800 You voted for the defense?

00:28:25.400 No, I ended up being an alternate.

00:28:27.920 Oh, wah, wah. 0.99

00:28:28.880 It's like going to the prom with your cousin.

00:28:33.100 Like, yeah, I like my cousin, but I don't want to go to the prom.

00:28:35.760 Like, it was horrible.

00:28:36.920 But they found, my fellow jurors found no liability because the two fingertips survived

00:28:42.000 and they still worked.

00:28:44.680 Oh my God.

00:28:45.420 It makes it so much harder to give somebody the finger.

00:28:47.900 Which one do you lift now?

00:28:49.660 What's the dominant part of the middle finger?

00:28:52.160 It's unclear.

00:28:54.360 I served on a jury years ago.

00:28:56.420 I was co-anchoring, Johnna, you and I were together back in these days.

00:28:59.360 I was co-anchoring America's Newsroom with Hemmer.

00:29:02.220 This is back, we launched that show in 07 and it went through 10 with the two of us at

00:29:06.260 the helm and I got called for jury duty like we all do.

00:29:08.960 And I got seated and I disclosed that I had just done 10 years at Jones Day.

00:29:13.100 And normally they'd say a corporate litigator at Jones Day, that's bad for the defense.

00:29:17.280 This is a criminal trial.

00:29:18.760 Somebody like me would get bounced.

00:29:20.240 The prosecution was like, she's good, we're good.

00:29:22.100 And I've been very much more prosecution oriented in my commentary anyway.

00:29:27.020 So I would have thought the defense would have bounced me, but you know what happened?

00:29:30.420 The defense lawyer, when he got up there to do the voir dire of the prospective jurors,

00:29:34.360 including me, said, Ms. Kelly, crossing his arms, if I put you on this jury, will you put

00:29:44.080 me on TV?

00:29:48.560 Sense of humor.

00:29:49.580 That happened.

00:29:50.620 That happened.

00:29:51.540 I remember just laughing and in my head, I'm thinking, kind of depends on how you do.

00:29:56.000 You know, like, are you a good talker?

00:29:57.680 Anyway, we all found against his client and found his client guilty because it was very

00:30:04.440 clear he was.

00:30:05.020 It was a drug case.

00:30:06.160 Anyway, this so far is not looking good for Trump.

00:30:09.620 I agree with you guys.

00:30:10.460 He's doing the best he can with this jury pool.

00:30:13.980 There's like at least some ambiguity about each one of them or at least one thing to hope

00:30:19.120 for.

00:30:19.500 But I don't know.

00:30:21.400 Just keep in mind, audience.

00:30:23.000 Need one miracle.

00:30:24.220 Just one miracle in order to set this off.

00:30:27.080 Last but not least, he was accused of juror intimidation by this judge yesterday.

00:30:32.280 I thought this was rather extraordinary.

00:30:33.620 We pulled a soundbite of The New York Times' Suzanne Craig on MSNBC explaining what happened.

00:30:40.740 Take a listen.

00:30:41.560 It's not five.

00:30:42.320 The juror, juror number one, had taken a video at a distance of what looked like a celebration

00:30:48.260 in the streets of New York for when Trump lost in 2020.

00:30:52.160 I think that was it.

00:30:52.800 And it showed that she was biased and there was some language that suggested that she 0.95

00:30:56.860 might have a bias.

00:30:58.500 She said she happened to take the video.

00:31:00.880 She thought it was a very New York moment and she posted it.

00:31:03.900 We didn't have the cameras on, so we didn't have a visual of Donald Trump at this point

00:31:07.480 from the overflow room that I sit in.

00:31:09.940 We have closed circuit TVs.

00:31:11.120 But the judge had, there was some back and forth between the lawyers and then the judge

00:31:16.260 actually admonished the former president because he was huffing and puffing and gesturing

00:31:21.380 towards the juror.

00:31:23.720 He said it was, the judge said it was completely inappropriate and he said, I won't tolerate

00:31:27.180 it.

00:31:27.440 I won't have any jurors intimidated in this courtroom.

00:31:30.400 And his lawyer had to go speak to him.

00:31:32.320 So that was like a moment.

00:31:35.460 Hmm.

00:31:35.900 And Shana, what do you make of that exchange?

00:31:40.700 You know, what I take away from the exchange is just how much I do not have respect for

00:31:47.240 the judge presiding over this case.

00:31:49.720 And maybe that's not a popular opinion.

00:31:51.820 But, you know, look, I've sat next to clients during jury selection.

00:31:55.780 They have to talk to you.

00:31:57.260 Sometimes they're too loud in any sort of trial situation.

00:32:00.480 Sometimes they're not.

00:32:01.540 You know, this judge needs to get off Donald Trump's back, like, for God's sake.

00:32:08.460 So I don't think it really was a moment that this reporter was talking about.

00:32:11.840 It was just another way that this judge could wield some sort of weird power over Donald

00:32:16.480 Trump in his courtroom.

00:32:18.280 What's weird, Vinny, is so just to clarify, it appears that this woman trying to get on 0.97

00:32:22.620 the jury, it was found that she had made two Facebook posts the day of the 2020 presidential

00:32:28.800 election, and she had previously said she had no biases against Donald Trump.

00:32:35.140 But the posts were of people celebrating the fact that he had lost.

00:32:41.780 And she tried to say to the judge, the juror perspective, she just wanted to capture, quote,

00:32:48.860 a New York City celebratory moment, likening the cheers to the nightly celebrations for health

00:32:54.820 care workers during the COVID-19 pandemic.

00:32:58.100 She was dismissed appropriately.

00:33:01.300 But that's another instance of somebody, in my view, lying to get on the jury.

00:33:05.780 And Trump, when she was being cross-examined all this, allegedly uttered something who was 12 feet

00:33:13.060 away from him.

00:33:14.260 And the judge said to the Trump lawyer, your client was audibly uttering something.

00:33:19.460 I don't know what he was uttering.

00:33:21.460 So if you don't know what he was uttering, why are you accusing him of witness or juror

00:33:28.000 intimidation?

00:33:29.640 Yeah, that's problematic.

00:33:30.660 Now, part of our system of justice is that criminal defendants are supposed to participate

00:33:36.180 in their own defense.

00:33:38.300 It's their life that is on the line, their liberty that's on the line here.

00:33:44.020 So that's why they're there.

00:33:45.680 And that's why they have to be there.

00:33:47.100 Now, the level of how loud your voice can be when speaking with your attorney, I don't

00:33:53.000 know.

00:33:53.260 If he says something directly to a juror, I get it.

00:33:56.240 But if you're communicating with your attorney, I don't know.

00:34:00.860 I don't know.

00:34:01.100 I'd have to see it.

00:34:02.520 And we need to put cameras in the courtroom and broadcast.

00:34:05.700 Yes.

00:34:06.220 But the state of New York-

00:34:07.640 At least audio of any, right?

00:34:08.620 At least audio.

00:34:09.400 No, no.

00:34:10.440 Video and audio.

00:34:12.840 New York used to permit cameras.

00:34:15.000 The law, there was a sunset provision, and then they never allowed him back in.

00:34:20.180 To me, it's about transparency.

00:34:22.320 And in a case like this, this is the exact case that needs to be broadcast because of

00:34:28.560 the nature of it.

00:34:29.460 You're getting secondhand reports about it, number one, so no one can actually see it.

00:34:33.640 Number two, you want to trust the system.

00:34:36.640 How do you trust a system that hides what's happening, right?

00:34:39.840 Yeah.

00:34:40.160 So I don't understand that.

00:34:42.140 To me, that's another big problem in all of this.

00:34:45.540 Okay.

00:34:45.840 One other thing on the Trump case.

00:34:48.220 So Trump, at the end of the day, keeps coming out and making statements, Jonna.

00:34:51.400 And yesterday, he made a statement about- he was trying to say, how is this turning into

00:34:58.960 like, you know, I doctored my corporate books?

00:35:02.560 What he did was he or his team paid Michael Cohen the $130,000 that Cohen had paid to

00:35:09.460 Stormy Daniels to get her to not speak out about their alleged affair.

00:35:14.080 And it was marked down on the books as a legal expense.

00:35:17.060 Trump was, you know, or someone on his behalf paying this to a lawyer who represented Trump.

00:35:21.560 Now, one of the questions in the case is who actually authorized the payment and made the

00:35:28.800 payment and then who wrote down in the books that it was a legal expense?

00:35:33.020 Because the odds are it wasn't Donald Trump who wrote that down, you know, in the books.

00:35:38.280 Well, he made this comment after court yesterday that now has people saying, oh my God, it was

00:35:43.880 an admission.

00:35:45.220 He tried to fix it, but he admitted it.

00:35:47.300 Take a listen and saw it.

00:35:48.140 I was paying a lawyer and marked it down as a legal expense, some accountant, I didn't

00:35:55.880 know, marked it down as a legal expense.

00:35:59.060 That's exactly what it was.

00:36:01.120 And you've been indicted over that?

00:36:05.100 Okay.

00:36:05.920 So he started to say that he, I was paying a lawyer and we marked it down as a legal expense

00:36:12.900 and then he corrects himself.

00:36:14.560 An accountant did.

00:36:15.780 And now there's speculation that'll be played in court.

00:36:18.140 To prove to this jury, and they don't have this proof otherwise, that Trump knew and

00:36:23.280 authorized and maybe even participated in how it would be recorded.

00:36:27.300 Any criminal defense attorney will tell you, just don't say anything, right?

00:36:30.980 Ever, ever, ever, ever, right?

00:36:33.360 But you're not going to be able to stop him.

00:36:35.140 Now, the question is, are they going to play, they have to play the whole thing, I would think,

00:36:38.620 the whole thing.

00:36:39.180 And so if the prosecution puts this in, are they also allowing him to testify without being

00:36:46.380 cross-examined?

00:36:47.620 It's a double-edged sword.

00:36:48.900 As much as they want to say, oh, here he is making an admission.

00:36:51.520 Well, he's also got the complete explanation, which means now he can give his side of what

00:36:57.820 happened here without getting on the witness stand and without being cross-examined.

00:37:02.620 So I would be a little less anxious as the prosecution to necessarily put that in.

00:37:10.160 I mean, I always say this, and it was in the George Zimmerman case was the same thing,

00:37:13.900 where the prosecution in that case put in all of George Zimmerman's statements, and they

00:37:19.120 were self-serving, but they believe that, oh, the jury's not going to buy it.

00:37:22.480 But he never had to testify, because his whole story, through the videos brought in by the

00:37:28.420 prosecution, told his story.

00:37:30.840 So as a prosecutor, I would not put that in.

00:37:35.120 But if they do, we'll see what happens.

00:37:37.800 Very good point.

00:37:38.560 And plus, when you speak colloquially, sometimes you say, you know, I or we, and you don't

00:37:44.540 necessarily mean yourself.

00:37:45.940 It's like, I'll say, oh, you know, I have this soundbite.

00:37:48.860 It's like, well, who gave me the soundbite?

00:37:49.940 My team.

00:37:50.440 I didn't cut the soundbite.

00:37:51.380 I don't mean that I personally cut the soundbite.

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00:38:51.480 Joy Reid is super happy about DEI and its effects on the 2024 presidential election.

00:39:05.200 She's calling it out.

00:39:07.020 Listen to her.

00:39:07.480 For me, there is something wonderfully poetic about the fact that despite the fact that even

00:39:13.400 if convicted, he's not going to go to prison, the first person to actually criminally prosecute

00:39:19.640 Donald Trump is a black Harvard grad, the very kind of person that his former staff,

00:39:26.200 the people who worked for him, Stephen Miller, et cetera, want to never be at Harvard Law School. 0.93

00:39:33.320 But he was.

00:39:34.720 And a black woman is doing that same exact thing in Georgia. 1.00

00:39:38.220 And a black woman forced you to pay $175 million fine. 0.98

00:39:42.600 Donald Trump is being held to account by the very multicultural, multiracial democracy that

00:39:49.140 he's trying to dismantle.

00:39:50.700 And for me, there's something poetic and actually wonderful about that.

00:39:55.060 It says something good about our country that we're still capable of having that happen.

00:39:59.140 Go DEI.

00:40:00.140 My DEIs are bringing it home.

00:40:01.860 Oh, my Lord.

00:40:03.320 Yeah, like when I think about representation in our democracy, what I really think about

00:40:08.600 is taking a misdemeanor charge in the state of New York, one that wasn't going to be prosecuted

00:40:13.640 by the DOJ or Cy Vance and trumping it up into 40 felony charges and deciding there's an

00:40:20.120 underlying crime with an FEC violation, again, that was not previously charged.

00:40:24.220 That is representation.

00:40:25.800 That's what it is.

00:40:26.600 That's what it is. 0.91

00:40:27.380 You know, and that's the ridiculous nature of all of this, Megan, right? 0.97

00:40:31.580 It's like the facts be damned, right?

00:40:34.020 Like the subsection C before the United States Supreme Court, the subsection C that is supposed

00:40:39.920 to apply to financial crimes done by like Enron and Arthur Anderson can be applied to everybody

00:40:45.000 on January 6th.

00:40:46.080 And Donald Trump can have a misdemeanor trumped up to 40 felonies.

00:40:48.920 Because that doesn't matter to them.

00:40:50.880 What matters is the representation.

00:40:52.800 Well, Michael, there was a woman, a solicitor that was arguing it before the court.

00:40:56.460 What are these details?

00:40:58.400 That's not right.

00:40:59.320 Just take the take the W, Duncan.

00:41:01.540 It's just lawlessness dressed up.

00:41:05.200 You know, can I say that?

00:41:06.380 Can I can I say, oh, my DEI's.

00:41:08.360 There's my DEI.

00:41:09.880 Alvin Bragg.

00:41:10.720 There he is.

00:41:11.460 Does that is that how that works?

00:41:12.640 If she can adopt a white woman hair, can I adopt her black woman DEI's, my DEI's? 1.00

00:41:18.140 Is that I can that it's just that I think if you take a step back, it's just it's deranged

00:41:24.000 and disturbing of essentially you are doing everything you can to divide Americans.

00:41:29.760 That's the whole equity thing of being like, you know what?

00:41:32.500 I'm really happy that there's a lot of black people out here who can prosecute a white person.

00:41:38.780 This sounds like it's a very healthy thing to celebrate.

00:41:42.040 And then the rest of the people on the on the TV panel clap like seals.

00:41:45.720 Like, yeah, good idea.

00:41:47.060 Let's try to divide Americans by their race. 0.86

00:41:49.380 Put them against each other.

00:41:51.220 This seems healthy.

00:41:52.040 But also can talk about their DEI's and the power that they're bringing in the same breath

00:41:57.260 of condemning Clarence Thomas.

00:41:58.880 Yeah, of course.

00:42:00.360 Right.

00:42:00.920 It's like, no, no, no.

00:42:02.020 It's not actually DEI's that you're concerned about.

00:42:05.200 It's progressive liberals that you're in any sort of form or shape.

00:42:09.600 And that's how gross is she to bring Stephen Miller into it? 1.00

00:42:13.160 Stephen Miller.

00:42:14.080 She's talking about America first legal.

00:42:16.320 Yeah, I'm sure they did oppose the affirmative action program that was unlawful as held by the

00:42:21.120 Supreme Court.

00:42:21.780 It's not Stephen Miller's fault.

00:42:23.780 It's the fault of the people who put it in place, contrary to the Constitution.

00:42:28.600 You're not allowed to have that kind of a program.

00:42:31.840 And the Supreme Court's been telegraphing that it would go away for 20 years.

00:42:34.540 And now finally it has. 0.55

00:42:35.680 So but no, for Joy Reid, it means he doesn't want black people at Harvard. 0.94

00:42:39.320 All the black people in the world can get into Harvard just as long as they can get into 1.00

00:42:41.920 Harvard, Joy Reid. 0.87

00:42:42.860 That's it.

00:42:43.700 Have them get somewhat decent grades.

00:42:45.820 Right now, it's much easier to get into Harvard as a young black or man or woman than

00:42:50.660 it is to be any other race. 0.68

00:42:52.600 Guaranteed.

00:42:53.260 So just stop.

00:42:54.180 OK, stop. 0.97

00:42:55.240 There's no problem getting black people to Harvard as long as they have somewhat decent grades. 1.00

00:42:58.700 She's a liar. 0.99

00:42:59.300 It's not not going to happen anymore because of Stephen Miller. 0.99

00:43:02.140 She just loves to gin up racial enmity wherever she can. 1.00

00:43:07.280 Yeah, I'd love to know her opinion on like a male Asian American getting into Harvard.

00:43:12.860 Yeah, I would.

00:43:13.480 I would happen to think her opinion might be a little bit different.

00:43:15.760 Suddenly that's not DEI.

00:43:17.000 Nope, nope.

00:43:17.760 That one doesn't work.

00:43:18.760 That one doesn't fit.

00:43:19.920 That doesn't qualify.

00:43:21.240 So the the I was going to show you this, too.

00:43:25.420 So just talking about like the way the media is approaching the Trump cases is that's

00:43:30.740 her.

00:43:31.000 Like, she's so proud that everybody's black involved. 0.91

00:43:33.120 All the prosecutors are black. 0.62

00:43:34.100 Yay. 0.91

00:43:34.380 Yay, me.

00:43:35.000 That's what she's saying.

00:43:36.240 I mean, can you imagine?

00:43:37.200 It's like, seriously, think about if I were like, well, I'm just so proud that like all 0.97

00:43:41.680 the whites are going after the blacks now. 0.88

00:43:43.840 It makes me feel so good. 0.97

00:43:45.540 I feel wonderful.

00:43:47.360 That's basically what she's saying.

00:43:48.680 It's like she gets away with it because blacks are 14 percent of the American population.

00:43:54.320 But like virtually none of them feel the way she does. 0.98

00:43:56.480 Only lunatic white women on the Upper West Side share her views or in Seattle or San Francisco. 1.00

00:44:01.040 Just speak for the black community. 0.97

00:44:03.060 You know, I have actually many black friends and people in my life.

00:44:05.880 They'd be appalled if they saw that clip. 0.99

00:44:07.560 She's disgusting. 1.00

00:44:08.580 She gets away with it over and over because she's on MSNBC. 1.00

00:44:12.420 And I'm just sick of her nonsense.

00:44:14.680 But anyway, it's the same way to fund the police polls. 0.98

00:44:16.320 Like if you ask black voters their thoughts on to fund the police, they say, without a 1.00

00:44:21.360 doubt, absolutely not, except for the talking heads on TV and the white liberals in the Northeast

00:44:27.640 and on the coast.

00:44:28.920 They're the ones who push this idea thinking, oh, you know, I want to be helpful to my DEIs.

00:44:35.820 So I think defunding the police is the way to do it.

00:44:38.300 A hundred percent.

00:44:39.060 Yeah.

00:44:39.920 OK, so here is George Stephanopoulos over the weekend trying to cross examine Chris Sununu

00:44:46.000 of New Hampshire, the governor who was behind Nikki Haley and now has said he's going to

00:44:51.160 go with Team Trump.

00:44:52.000 I mean, he's a Republican and trying.

00:44:54.620 I mean, we just put a montage together of the questions.

00:44:57.460 You tell me whether you think George Stephanopoulos understands the right half of America and came

00:45:02.200 to this with a fair and impartial approach.

00:45:04.160 Watch.

00:45:05.340 Will your support for Donald Trump continue even if he's convicted?

00:45:08.560 I'm asking you about right and wrong.

00:45:10.120 You think it's you're you're comfortable with the idea of supporting someone who's convicted

00:45:15.420 on January 11th, 2021.

00:45:17.380 You said that President Trump's rhetoric and actions contributed to the insurrection.

00:45:21.220 So please explain, given the fact that you believe he contributed to an insurrection,

00:45:25.620 how you can say we should have him back in the Oval Office?

00:45:28.920 Just to sum up, you would you support him for president even if he's convicted in classified

00:45:32.420 documents.

00:45:33.000 You support him for president even though you believe he contributed to an insurrection.

00:45:36.360 You support him for president even though you believe he's lying about the last election.

00:45:40.220 You'd support him for president even if he's convicted in the Manhattan case.

00:45:43.240 I just want to say the answer to that is yes.

00:45:44.980 Correct?

00:45:46.840 Yeah.

00:45:47.400 Me and 51 percent of America.

00:45:53.100 What a wonderful clip, Megan.

00:45:55.580 And just a demonstration of ABC's deep and abiding commitment to DEI and everything it stands

00:46:01.540 for by hiring a Democrat press secretary to once again anchor the news.

00:46:06.360 At their broadcasting network.

00:46:08.880 Oh, it's amazing.

00:46:10.800 Like he doesn't get it.

00:46:12.000 He doesn't get it.

00:46:13.060 Like the right half of the country doesn't see these things as rising to the level of

00:46:17.560 criminality. 0.60

00:46:18.820 They haven't been treated as crimes when we've had these so-called insurrections by the

00:46:23.480 Democrats challenging elections or turning over police stations, as we talked about earlier,

00:46:27.780 setting them on fire courthouses as well.

00:46:30.020 All just completely ignored.

00:46:31.540 They're having trouble finding their outrage vein on these Trump behaviors because it's

00:46:37.660 so one-sided.

00:46:38.720 The docket, even the documents case.

00:46:40.680 Your guy did that too.

00:46:42.300 Your guy did that.

00:46:43.180 And he took the documents when he wasn't even president.

00:46:45.160 George.

00:46:45.980 I will say, I don't think Sununu was all that effective in responding to it, but it was just

00:46:49.580 a complete skewering by an unfair journalist.

00:46:52.600 And by the way, why do Republicans keep going on these shows?

00:46:55.420 Because you're just there to be their little- 0.99

00:46:56.940 That's a better question.

00:46:59.240 I don't know the answer to that question.

00:47:02.280 I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anybody who I was advising.

00:47:06.160 Seems like Stephanopoulos has stepped on a lot of rakes lately.

00:47:09.480 Yeah.

00:47:09.760 By the way, he had that Nancy Mace thing, right?

00:47:12.200 And then now this thing.

00:47:14.100 But to the larger point here that he can't conceptualize, it's sort of amazing to me.

00:47:20.600 I can only imagine what your information flow and your silo of information and socialization

00:47:27.160 looks like when you can't understand, even if you are a Trump critic and you have had

00:47:34.700 a huge problem with January 6th and you didn't like any of the post-2020 stuff and you don't

00:47:39.720 like him personally and you think he's offensive, but you're a conservative and you're a Republican

00:47:44.160 and you're looking out at a absolutely feeble president of the United States that's running

00:47:49.760 this country down to the ground domestically and abroad, and you have a binary choice between

00:47:54.760 the two.

00:47:55.680 I don't understand why it's from a conception standpoint.

00:47:59.920 Like, why don't you understand?

00:48:02.020 Yeah, Biden is that bad.

00:48:04.040 Well, he can't get it.

00:48:04.800 He's like, I talked to my friends at Soho House and I was at Deena to look at having a coffee

00:48:09.440 and everyone said that like Biden's doing a great job.

00:48:12.500 In the Hamptons too.

00:48:14.160 Yeah.

00:48:15.120 Yeah.

00:48:15.500 I also really love that the Protect Our Democracy coalition of Democrats in the media and the

00:48:21.040 party, like suddenly want you as a Republican to be like, no, you know, the voters who voted

00:48:27.800 for Donald Trump in this Republican primary made him the nominee.

00:48:30.780 They're wrong.

00:48:31.800 You know what I mean?

00:48:32.580 Right.

00:48:32.860 Like it's actually profoundly undemocratic what they're hoping that they can convince some

00:48:36.960 Republican talking heads to do.

00:48:39.120 Also, the same crew that expressed absolutely no outrage about the fact that this White House

00:48:42.760 tried to cancel all of their primaries and just re-nominate the president of the United

00:48:46.040 States.

00:48:46.500 Very pro-democratic position, right?

00:48:48.960 Very pro-democratic.

00:48:49.640 And remove Trump from the ballot in several states.

00:48:52.320 Very pro-democracy.

00:48:52.760 Also democracy.

00:48:53.440 But that's what you get when the internal conversations at your network look like the

00:48:59.860 internal conversations at the DNC.

00:49:02.040 If you had half of that network who was Republicans, half of that network were Democrats, they would

00:49:07.260 have internal fights to just to re-center the perspective of the way they're approaching

00:49:12.880 the news.

00:49:13.720 They don't have that now.

00:49:14.960 There's nobody pushing back on him in the pre-meetings to say, hey, here's what half

00:49:20.260 the country thinks, man.

00:49:21.680 You should really approach it this way if you want to actually get real news that the middle

00:49:25.920 of the country is interested in.

00:49:27.320 They don't have any of that.

00:49:28.540 And it's the same problem that they have at NPR, they have at ABC, they have at NBC,

00:49:32.920 they have at CBS.

00:49:33.780 There are no Republicans working at these networks.

00:49:37.020 And until they get at least half, I don't think Republicans need to go on.

00:49:41.360 I mean, yeah, I mean, it's just a perversion.

00:49:43.180 Maybe they patted him on the back after that.

00:49:44.580 They were probably doing high fives after that.

00:49:46.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99

00:49:46.360 Like, you killed him, George. 0.70

00:49:47.300 You rocked it.

00:49:48.720 Just like the press secretary in Ilhan Omar's office pats her on the back when she goes

00:49:53.100 on MSNBC.

00:49:54.000 It's the same concept.

00:49:55.640 It's a Democrat operation.

00:49:57.600 It's not a news organization anymore.

00:49:59.600 Yeah, it's just a perversion of all of these shows and the way that we cover news today on

00:50:04.900 a lot of these networks.

00:50:05.980 Because, I mean, look, you remember back in the day, Tim Russert himself, a former Democratic

00:50:10.080 operative in many ways.

00:50:11.460 But when he got into that sort of prosecutorial back and forth, what it was always about in

00:50:17.160 his era was trying to get answers for things he felt like people were obfuscating from.

00:50:21.400 It wasn't a partisan prosecution based on a point of view that only half of this country

00:50:25.980 actually holds.

00:50:27.140 It was about trying to get answers on things like the Iraq war or things that were affecting

00:50:31.400 this country.

00:50:31.980 And he was trying to just pin people down.

00:50:34.200 They have taken that model of a confrontational question and answer style to, you know, public

00:50:40.380 officials and just layered on top of it, absolute blatant, bald faced partisanship as what you're

00:50:48.760 trying to get out of the new model of journalism.

00:50:52.820 We've come a long way from Tim Russert.

00:50:56.200 I give you Gayle King and Charles Barkley in their now defunct after six months show on

00:51:03.640 CNN.

00:51:04.220 Look at a mashup here.

00:51:05.820 Like, there's so much noise coming out of D.C.

00:51:08.780 How are you able to work your way through that every day?

00:51:12.160 Because we can also say he's a truth teller, because when Bob Cost is sat down in the seat,

00:51:17.020 can I please get a close up shot of my face?

00:51:19.000 He said, and he goes, God, that thing's getting bigger.

00:51:21.620 Look, it's getting bigger, and hopefully it won't get so big.

00:51:25.400 Now, do you ever just like, hey, you know what, can we just talk about issues and not

00:51:29.020 talk about all the noise and the extracurricular stuff?

00:51:31.980 Yes.

00:51:32.260 If you have a disagreement with a co-worker and they start giving you the silent treatment,

00:51:37.060 how do you handle that?

00:51:38.500 Personally, I, you know, I respond in kind.

00:51:41.740 If you give me the silent treatment, I'm going to pretend you don't exist.

00:51:44.640 Really?

00:51:45.040 I hear that you get a lot of questions from people talking about smelly co-workers.

00:51:49.560 You have to say something.

00:51:50.940 It's just like, excuse me, but are you dealing with something?

00:51:53.460 Do you have a hormonal issue?

00:51:55.120 Is the water not working at your home?

00:51:57.440 Something tells me, Charles, this will not be the last, just saying, this will not be

00:52:01.440 the last time that we're working together.

00:52:02.960 Call me, Gil.

00:52:03.560 Yeah.

00:52:05.900 I'm going to take the under.

00:52:07.360 Wow.

00:52:08.980 I'm going to take the under on that.

00:52:11.180 That show was on for six months?

00:52:13.420 For real?

00:52:13.860 It's done.

00:52:14.480 They only had 14 episodes.

00:52:16.160 They were drawing an average of 459,000 total viewers, 100,000 in the key demo of 25 to 54.

00:52:26.060 That's a nightmare.

00:52:27.260 They were up against Gutfeld, just for, you know, comparison.

00:52:30.040 That'll do it.

00:52:30.580 He's getting 2.2 million total.

00:52:33.000 320,000 in the demo.

00:52:34.440 Even Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC had 1.5 million up against this.

00:52:39.180 This was a nightmare.

00:52:40.380 Absolutely nobody watched it.

00:52:41.760 And the only thing CNN is able to say is it wasn't a failure because we attracted an audience

00:52:48.420 that was 44% non-white.

00:52:51.240 Oh my God.

00:52:52.540 That's the metric for success.

00:52:54.380 That's it.

00:52:55.200 Well, that's amazing.

00:52:55.840 I was listening to, I'm kind of a fan of Charles Barkley and his NBA and basketball analysis.

00:53:00.080 And I was listening to a sports talk thing when this whole thing was announced.

00:53:03.420 And he's like, yeah, man, all my friends tell me this is a tremendous mistake.

00:53:07.080 I don't know.

00:53:07.660 I guess we'll find out.

00:53:09.040 And I was like, well, I guess you did.

00:53:10.860 Right?

00:53:11.180 I guess we did find out.

00:53:12.620 It wasn't.

00:53:13.140 It was a mistake.

00:53:13.900 Do you feel like people didn't want a close up of Gayle King's cold sore?

00:53:18.660 Is that what we were seeing there?

00:53:19.820 And I don't know what she was calling attention to on her lip.

00:53:22.140 It's probably ill-advised.

00:53:24.260 I mean, they should be ashamed. 1.00

00:53:25.520 They subjected people of color to that garbage. 1.00

00:53:29.760 Enhanced interrogation or portraits. 1.00

00:53:32.840 Depends on your view.

00:53:33.820 They can't find good TV and are listening on NPR.

00:53:37.220 Now CNN is gone.

00:53:38.820 I guess it's back to Ruthless.

00:53:42.780 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

00:53:45.040 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

00:53:55.520 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

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