Best of the Week： Trump Trial Circus, Biden's Cannibal Lie, Smug Elites, and More
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This week, the first trial of former President Donald Trump kicks off in New York City, and the judge goes after two key witnesses, Vinnie Paulitan and Janice Bilboer. We also hear from Katie Couric, Andrew Klavan, and Joy Reid about anti-Trump voters, and a bizarre lie from Joe Biden about his uncle getting eaten by cannibals.
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Like that woman over there with the designer jeans.
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live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
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and welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show's weekend best-of special.
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The first trial of former President Donald Trump
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We got into some of the storylines in that trial so far,
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including the judge going after the former president over supposed jury intimidation,
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really, with Vinnie Paulitan and Janice Bilboer.
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We also talked about some of the outrageous comments this week from Katie Couric.
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Wait until you hear what she said about MAGA voters.
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Joy Reid on DEI and more with Andrew Klavan and the fellas from The Ruthless Program.
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And we had on our friends from National Review, Charlie Cook and Jim Garrity,
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to talk about a bizarre, bizarre new lie from President Joe Biden about how his uncle got eaten
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by cannibals, which didn't happen at all, and the implications it and other comments like it
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are going to have or not have on the 2024 election.
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When they hear the concerns expressed by the right half of the country about, you know,
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the policies that have gotten us here, the culture wars that have completely changed
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children's existence, their safety and so on, they respond with just disdain.
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I mean, just dripping, oozing disdain for these people who might object to their view of how
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America must be, and that, unfortunately, leads me to Katie Couric, who sat down with Bill
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And I feel like, to your point, Bill, that socioeconomic disparities are a lot, and class
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resentment is a lot, and anti-intellectualism and elitism is what is driving many of these
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these anti-establishment, which are Trump voters, or anti-establishment voters.
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So I think that is a huge problem that we have to address.
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I mean, globalization and, you know, the transition from an industrial to a technological society.
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I mean, I, and I don't know if you've ever been jealous of some, what someone else has
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or resentful, it is such a corroding and bitter, almost vile feeling.
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Anti-intellectuals who are bitter, jealous, and corrosive over their envy for her half.
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You know, I used to call these people elites without mirrors because they couldn't see
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how awful they were, but I'm beginning to think that they're elite without windows because
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they can't look outside and see that Trump, for all his flaws, gave us four years without
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a new war where this guy has set the world on fire.
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Biden has, in his weakness and his dithering and his complete, constant misunderstanding of
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the world stage, has brought us very, very close to a widely extended war, not just in
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the Middle East, but in Ukraine and with Ukraine and Russia.
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He has his economics, they keep telling us that his economics are great, we just don't
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They keep saying, oh, you know, like inflation is under control.
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Well, first of all, it's not under control, but their idea of it's being under control is
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that after, you know, years of it's being extremely high, it's a little less high than it was.
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But eggs are still, you know, what is it, I don't know, 65% higher than what they were.
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People see their bills, you know, they see that things are going badly.
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We see that our cities, you know, they keep telling us how crime is down in our cities.
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It's possible that murder is down because they've kind of been policing that, but I
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don't believe that crime is down in cities where all you have to do is talk to people.
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No, we're actually going to do a show on this soon.
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It's truly just a lie because crime spiked and then in some instances it fell a little
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And on top of that, they're not prosecuting anymore.
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So the cops, many instances, they just don't even arrest the people because they know it's
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going to be a revolving door out the police station with a note with a DA who doesn't
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Like the dreads, that was like another bitter clingers.
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It was another basket of deplorables, these anti-intellectual, bitter, envious people who
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I mean, talk about not getting it, not even close to getting it.
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I want to ask you about Molly Ringwald because before you became a star on the Daily Wire,
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you were a star in Hollywood, screenwriting for many big movies and very well celebrated
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And Molly Ringwald, who was, you know, the star of the day when I was a kid, you know,
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Breakfast Club and Pretty in Pink and all these amazing movies, 16 Candles, has now spent
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most of her adult life, as far as I can tell, bashing them, bashing the movies.
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She came out in 18 and talked about John Hughes and how the movies were too, I can't remember
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her word, but it was something like too misogynistic and too Me Too-y.
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And, um, she should have spoken out and now she adds this to her latest running commentary
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Those movies, the movies that, you know, are, I'm so well known for, they were very much
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of a time, you know, and, and if you were to remake that now, I think it would have to
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be much more diverse and it would have to be, um, you know, it, you couldn't make a movie
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Now those movies are really, really very white and, and they don't really represent,
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um, you know, what it is to be a teenager in a school in America today.
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So what you're, you're sorry that you were in a film where white people were the dominant
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Go away so that we can just enjoy the acting version of you instead of the real, who gives
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a shit what Molly Ringwald thinks about anything.
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We enjoyed it and you're making us enjoy it less with your political commentary.
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First of all, I have to say it back in the day when she was in her prime, I was madly
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I'm, you know, I may have to recover from this, but you know, there is this thing going
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on if you like movies, stories where everything you watch is an act of preachment, where they're
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telling you not just what the world is like, which is what art is supposed to do.
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They're telling you what they believe the world should be.
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And if you don't like it, there's something wrong with you.
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There's no such thing as a white person married to another white person.
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I recently watched the three body problem, a science fiction, an adaptation on Netflix
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of a science fiction novel, a novel of which I kind of enjoyed.
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And it was really interesting because the heroes were hard driving physicists, all of
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And the men were all these kind of slightly neurotic, passive, you know, support staff.
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And I was watching this and going, I guess this is why they call it fantasy in science
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fiction, because that's not really what the world looks like.
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And it becomes kind of offensive after a while, because I don't care if you want to make a
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I don't care about who, you know, what color the person is.
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I care about being preached to by people I happen to know are some of the worst people
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You know, people who are working on their fourth wife, you know, they're driving to their
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from divorce court and have to pick up their kid at rehab because they never took care of
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And they're going to stand up and preach to me about what my life should be like and what
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the world should look like, even though it doesn't look like this.
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So even when Molly Ringwald is saying this, she is essentially just kowtowing to an elite
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cabal of mostly white people who are imposing this on artists.
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And, you know, I'm telling you, Megan, I experienced this only a little bit because I'm so ornery
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But all I have to do in my last novel, I had a couple of remarks about transgenderism,
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a girl going through a phase of transgenderism before returning to sanity, and they wanted
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And I said, you know, I'll pull this book before I cut anything out that is true simply
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If the academy, if Hollywood, if publishing, if the news industry, if the deep state are
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all telling us one thing, how is we supposed to think that they are serving the powerless,
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And so when Katie Couric says we're anti-elite, what she's talking about is, yeah, we're the
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We're, you know, we're in an uprising against a series of lies where they butchered children,
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where they forced us to wear masks, they forced us to take medicines we didn't want.
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Our elites just went through years of screwing things up because a little flu passed through
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We are anti-elite, but only because our elites are so bad.
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It doesn't mean that the people who are voting for Trump aren't elites in themselves.
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That anti-elite, she's not wrong about that, but the anti-intellectual, like, okay,
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right, because they're just a bunch of dumbasses, okay, tell it to Victor Davis Hanson.
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Yeah, like, okay, but to your point, Melissa Chen, who's a great follow on Twitter, was
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tweeting out about this NPR lady, the new CEO, and talking about how, you know, there's
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It's too long to play right now, but she basically says you can't find truth anymore.
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You just have to make a good faith effort, basically.
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And Wikipedia considers sites reliable under her, when she was at the helm, like Vox, Slate,
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The Daily Wire, Fox News, The New York Post, The Federalist, The Daily Caller.
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That's her world of, we're just doing our best.
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You know, we can't get to actual truth, but we're doing our best.
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This is, if you think it's just the head of Wikipedia or the head of NPR or, you know,
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these other organizations, you're not paying attention.
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They're everywhere, and they're really trying to program how our children grow up and what
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Well, I think this is one of the reasons why, one thing that I strongly believe is any idea
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that you're going to transform Hollywood, transform the news media, transform the networks
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The only right way for us to go now is to build a parallel media.
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And the fear there, of course, is that everybody sections off and goes into their little niche
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But the more likely thing is that the people who tell the truth, the people whose predictions
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turn out to be true, the people whose ideas are founded in reality and therefore make reality
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better, are going to attract a larger audience.
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Biden went to a gas station in Moon Township, Pennsylvania.
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For the listening audience, there might be like five people.
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Contrast that with Trump, who visited Harlem on Tuesday.
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He went to the bodega where the guy, the worker, was attacked and fought back and stabbed
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And Alvin Bragg, who's prosecuting Trump, tried to charge that guy with second-degree murder
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and only when New York revolted against him, because the bodega owner had been attacked
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himself, it was self-defense, did he drop the charges.
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So Trump wisely went to that bodega on Tuesday and take a look at this.
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Charles, I know you can't go by crowd size in predicting who's going to get elected.
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Yeah, I think, as you say, you can't go by crowd size.
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But what it does tell us is something interesting about the two candidates, in that Biden is,
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if he is going to win, going to win because he's the safe option.
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He's the guy that people who don't like Trump, for reasons good and bad, think that they have
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He's not somebody that anyone in America seems to be enthused about.
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He inspires reactions, both good and bad, and for good and bad reasons.
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But he is somebody who does not yield yawns or the question who.
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Everyone knows who he is, and they know what he's about.
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And you're going to see a lot of that in the election.
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But I do think you were right in your introduction to the question to note that this dynamic also
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In fact, Joe Biden hid away for most of that election, and he still won.
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And I think this question is going to be, this election is going to be about which candidate
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can maintain their hold on suburban middle-class voters.
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Biden has a problem with them because of inflation and crime and his treatment of Israel.
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And Trump has a problem with them because he's uncouth, because of what he did at the end of the
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last election, which was a disgrace, because he's ill-disciplined.
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And, you know, I think that's going to be where the elections won or lost, not in crowd size.
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The problem for Joe Biden is not only that, you know, it's kind of an interesting bumper
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Hadn't heard anybody phrase it quite so succinctly.
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The problem for, yeah, what were you going to say, Jim?
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My fellow Americans have a proud tradition of existence.
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Did you guys happen to see the video on X yesterday of that woman in Brazil who tried
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to get some bank loan or payment that was owed to her uncle who is dead by wheeling the dead
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There's disturbing video, too disturbing to show.
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And she's trying to pretend that he's alive and she's talking to him to try to get him
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to sign these however it would financially benefit her.
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I mean, you know, I was just going to say it looked a little familiar.
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You know, it kind of looked a little like Jill Biden.
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But not making a lot of sense, Jim, not making a lot of sense, because I got to tell you,
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he once again came out with a nonsense story about Uncle Bossy.
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He can't go two seconds without telling another familial lie, something about his background,
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The latest one is about Uncle Bossy, who to whom he was paying tribute as a World War
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And take a listen to what President Biden claimed about his long lost uncle.
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He was in the Army Air Corps before there was an Air Force.
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He flew single engine planes, reconnaissance flights over New Guinea.
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He had volunteered because someone couldn't make it.
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He got shot down in an area where there were a lot of cannibals in New Guinea at the time.
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They never recovered his body, but the government went back when I went down there and they
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checked and found parts of the plane and the like.
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He died in World War II, was not in a single engine.
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He was in a double engine plane, was not shot down.
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Officials say that they don't know what happened to the plane, but both engines failed.
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We know this because three died in the ocean, including his uncle, and one survived and went
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Megan, Megan, the cannibals swam out to the bottom of the ocean to where the plane was,
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Now, by the way, when you were playing that video of Biden in the restaurant earlier and
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you noticed how nonchalant everyone was, that the president of the United States just
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walked in there, I noticed that quite a few folks were seated and remained seated when
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the president came in, which is, I believe, a violation of protocol.
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Even if there isn't a band there playing Hail to the Chief, like, Megan, if Joe Biden
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shuffled his feet into your studio right now and said, Megan, I got to tell you about my
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uncle and how the cannibals ate him and how terrible that was.
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It was right around, it was a little before I fought Corn Pop.
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Like, you'd rise to your feet out of respect for the office, not necessarily an appreciation
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Like, you just would do it, like, because that's what you do for the president, whether
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So one, it's kind of like, you know, some part of me as an American is a little disappointed
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to see people not rising when the president enters a room, whether or not they like him.
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And then the second thing is that this story, we've gotten used to the president talking
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about his conversations with Helmut Kohl, who died been a year, Francois Mitterrand,
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But as a result of this, Biden really has no communications oomph anymore.
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He only does events from between, like, you know, after 10 a.m.
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and before 4 p.m., doesn't do a lot of night events other than the State of the Union once
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Usually one public event a day doesn't, you know, goes back to Delaware, even if Israel's
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And he just doesn't, you know, he reads off the teleprompter.
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His staff is terrified of him going off the teleprompter.
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And we know that if he tells a story, you know, I was raised in a Puerto Rican, Jewish,
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We've heard these stories from our grandparents and our parents.
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But we put, and we put up with those stories because we love our elderly relatives.
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Or as, you know, as one of the new inspiring slogan Charlie just came up with, he's here.
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He's been wheeled into a bank somewhere as we speak.
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But I, like, you kind of can't take your eyes off of it.
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Remember, he said Uncle Frank received a Purple Heart.
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My uncle won the Purple Heart in the Battle of the Bulge.
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There was no, absolutely no evidence that Frank Biden received a Purple Heart, either while
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His name does not appear on the two major databases of honorees, Traces of War, or the National
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So no Purple Heart for Uncle Frank and no cannibals for Uncle Finnegan.
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This is actually kind of interesting and worthy of a soundbite.
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The Israelis are thinking about moving into Rafa.
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And there's been a lot of news about whether they should, whether this is an appropriate
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You know, a lot of people really want Israel to take care of it, to finish Hamas off by
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And I made it clear to Israelis, don't move on Haifa.
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Look what we did recently when Israel was attacked.
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OK, I mean, how many times does this have to happen, Charles, right before somebody over
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He he can't make it to, as you point out, October or November.
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He can't make it that we're going to have one of these.
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Or is it just he's polling within one point of Trump now in the national polls.
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You know, one of the really irritating things about the polarized politics that we live with
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at the moment and about the fact that this is another election fought between Joe Biden
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and Donald Trump is that whatever you say about either person, someone will immediately
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Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Donald Trump is disqualified from being president.
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Let's say that Donald Trump is a pathological liar.
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So Biden, as we established in the last segment, and anyone who has looked at the last 40 years
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of Biden's public career can attest, is a habitual liar.
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He bends and twists other people's grief so that he can spin stories of his own suffering
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Biden's relationship with the truth is disgraceful.
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And saying, but what about Trump, doesn't change that.
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The same is true with his abilities as a president or lack thereof.
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I'm not saying this is the view that everyone should take, but just for the sake of this
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conversation, let's say everything that everyone says about Trump is true.
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There is no one, there is no one in this country who would look at that man, absent a desire
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for him to beat someone else and say he should be president.
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He is quite clearly in and of itself per se unfit to be president.
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He projects no confidence or ability or knowledge.
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And all you need to do if you want confirmation of this is ask people in other countries who
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tend to be left of center relative to the United States whether or not they think Joe
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They will laugh and say, no, he looks like a skull.
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And I think because we've got into this horrendous dichotomy, once again, Trump v.
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Biden, hurrah, then we've almost lost our ability to evaluate and interrogate these questions
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in and of themselves without reference to the other person.
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But once you do it, you want to have a very stiff drink very soon.
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Trump today was out there saying, I can't believe we weren't able to strike more jurors.
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But the problem is you have these peremptory challenges and then you have challenges for
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cause and your peremptory ones where you can just bounce them for no reason.
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You don't have to tell the judge why you're bouncing them are limited in number.
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And I think each side has used six and they only get 10.
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They can only bounce four more without telling the judge why they're bouncing him or her.
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And you tell me, John, I was saying like, judge, they read the Washington Post and the New York
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And when you're selecting a jury, you don't want to waste your challenges because you don't
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You don't know who's going to be seated in that box that you're going to question.
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So you kind of have to hedge your bets a little bit.
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And based on what this judge has ruled thus far up to this point, not just in jury selection,
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he's not going to err on the side of Donald Trump.
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And if I can talk about this last year specifically, I'm all for attorneys being on the jury panel.
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I think attorneys should take over if they get seated on a jury.
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But this guy, this guy is a little scary because he knew how to stay middle of the darn road.
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And those are the juries, the jurors that are trying to be jurors.
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What attorney do you know who'd want to be on any jury unless it's Donald Trump or maybe
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And it was a man who had three fingertips severed and was suing the doctor who successfully reattached
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So his middle fingertip was on his pointer finger.
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Like, yeah, I like my cousin, but I don't want to go to the prom.
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But they found, my fellow jurors found no liability because the two fingertips survived
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It makes it so much harder to give somebody the finger.
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I was co-anchoring, Johnna, you and I were together back in these days.
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I was co-anchoring America's Newsroom with Hemmer.
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This is back, we launched that show in 07 and it went through 10 with the two of us at
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the helm and I got called for jury duty like we all do.
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And I got seated and I disclosed that I had just done 10 years at Jones Day.
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And normally they'd say a corporate litigator at Jones Day, that's bad for the defense.
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The prosecution was like, she's good, we're good.
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And I've been very much more prosecution oriented in my commentary anyway.
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So I would have thought the defense would have bounced me, but you know what happened?
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The defense lawyer, when he got up there to do the voir dire of the prospective jurors,
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including me, said, Ms. Kelly, crossing his arms, if I put you on this jury, will you put
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I remember just laughing and in my head, I'm thinking, kind of depends on how you do.
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Anyway, we all found against his client and found his client guilty because it was very
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Anyway, this so far is not looking good for Trump.
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He's doing the best he can with this jury pool.
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There's like at least some ambiguity about each one of them or at least one thing to hope
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Last but not least, he was accused of juror intimidation by this judge yesterday.
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We pulled a soundbite of The New York Times' Suzanne Craig on MSNBC explaining what happened.
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The juror, juror number one, had taken a video at a distance of what looked like a celebration
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in the streets of New York for when Trump lost in 2020.
00:30:52.800
And it showed that she was biased and there was some language that suggested that she
00:31:00.880
She thought it was a very New York moment and she posted it.
00:31:03.900
We didn't have the cameras on, so we didn't have a visual of Donald Trump at this point
00:31:11.120
But the judge had, there was some back and forth between the lawyers and then the judge
00:31:16.260
actually admonished the former president because he was huffing and puffing and gesturing
00:31:23.720
He said it was, the judge said it was completely inappropriate and he said, I won't tolerate
00:31:27.440
I won't have any jurors intimidated in this courtroom.
00:31:40.700
You know, what I take away from the exchange is just how much I do not have respect for
00:31:51.820
But, you know, look, I've sat next to clients during jury selection.
00:31:57.260
Sometimes they're too loud in any sort of trial situation.
00:32:01.540
You know, this judge needs to get off Donald Trump's back, like, for God's sake.
00:32:08.460
So I don't think it really was a moment that this reporter was talking about.
00:32:11.840
It was just another way that this judge could wield some sort of weird power over Donald
00:32:18.280
What's weird, Vinny, is so just to clarify, it appears that this woman trying to get on
00:32:22.620
the jury, it was found that she had made two Facebook posts the day of the 2020 presidential
00:32:28.800
election, and she had previously said she had no biases against Donald Trump.
00:32:35.140
But the posts were of people celebrating the fact that he had lost.
00:32:41.780
And she tried to say to the judge, the juror perspective, she just wanted to capture, quote,
00:32:48.860
a New York City celebratory moment, likening the cheers to the nightly celebrations for health
00:33:01.300
But that's another instance of somebody, in my view, lying to get on the jury.
00:33:05.780
And Trump, when she was being cross-examined all this, allegedly uttered something who was 12 feet
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And the judge said to the Trump lawyer, your client was audibly uttering something.
00:33:21.460
So if you don't know what he was uttering, why are you accusing him of witness or juror
00:33:30.660
Now, part of our system of justice is that criminal defendants are supposed to participate
00:33:38.300
It's their life that is on the line, their liberty that's on the line here.
00:33:47.100
Now, the level of how loud your voice can be when speaking with your attorney, I don't
00:33:53.260
If he says something directly to a juror, I get it.
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But if you're communicating with your attorney, I don't know.
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And we need to put cameras in the courtroom and broadcast.
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The law, there was a sunset provision, and then they never allowed him back in.
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And in a case like this, this is the exact case that needs to be broadcast because of
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You're getting secondhand reports about it, number one, so no one can actually see it.
00:34:36.640
How do you trust a system that hides what's happening, right?
00:34:42.140
To me, that's another big problem in all of this.
00:34:48.220
So Trump, at the end of the day, keeps coming out and making statements, Jonna.
00:34:51.400
And yesterday, he made a statement about- he was trying to say, how is this turning into
00:35:02.560
What he did was he or his team paid Michael Cohen the $130,000 that Cohen had paid to
00:35:09.460
Stormy Daniels to get her to not speak out about their alleged affair.
00:35:14.080
And it was marked down on the books as a legal expense.
00:35:17.060
Trump was, you know, or someone on his behalf paying this to a lawyer who represented Trump.
00:35:21.560
Now, one of the questions in the case is who actually authorized the payment and made the
00:35:28.800
payment and then who wrote down in the books that it was a legal expense?
00:35:33.020
Because the odds are it wasn't Donald Trump who wrote that down, you know, in the books.
00:35:38.280
Well, he made this comment after court yesterday that now has people saying, oh my God, it was
00:35:48.140
I was paying a lawyer and marked it down as a legal expense, some accountant, I didn't
00:36:05.920
So he started to say that he, I was paying a lawyer and we marked it down as a legal expense
00:36:15.780
And now there's speculation that'll be played in court.
00:36:18.140
To prove to this jury, and they don't have this proof otherwise, that Trump knew and
00:36:23.280
authorized and maybe even participated in how it would be recorded.
00:36:27.300
Any criminal defense attorney will tell you, just don't say anything, right?
00:36:35.140
Now, the question is, are they going to play, they have to play the whole thing, I would think,
00:36:39.180
And so if the prosecution puts this in, are they also allowing him to testify without being
00:36:48.900
As much as they want to say, oh, here he is making an admission.
00:36:51.520
Well, he's also got the complete explanation, which means now he can give his side of what
00:36:57.820
happened here without getting on the witness stand and without being cross-examined.
00:37:02.620
So I would be a little less anxious as the prosecution to necessarily put that in.
00:37:10.160
I mean, I always say this, and it was in the George Zimmerman case was the same thing,
00:37:13.900
where the prosecution in that case put in all of George Zimmerman's statements, and they
00:37:19.120
were self-serving, but they believe that, oh, the jury's not going to buy it.
00:37:22.480
But he never had to testify, because his whole story, through the videos brought in by the
00:37:38.560
And plus, when you speak colloquially, sometimes you say, you know, I or we, and you don't
00:37:45.940
It's like, I'll say, oh, you know, I have this soundbite.
00:37:51.380
I don't mean that I personally cut the soundbite.
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Joy Reid is super happy about DEI and its effects on the 2024 presidential election.
00:39:07.480
For me, there is something wonderfully poetic about the fact that despite the fact that even
00:39:13.400
if convicted, he's not going to go to prison, the first person to actually criminally prosecute
00:39:19.640
Donald Trump is a black Harvard grad, the very kind of person that his former staff,
00:39:26.200
the people who worked for him, Stephen Miller, et cetera, want to never be at Harvard Law School.
00:39:34.720
And a black woman is doing that same exact thing in Georgia.
00:39:38.220
And a black woman forced you to pay $175 million fine.
00:39:42.600
Donald Trump is being held to account by the very multicultural, multiracial democracy that
00:39:50.700
And for me, there's something poetic and actually wonderful about that.
00:39:55.060
It says something good about our country that we're still capable of having that happen.
00:40:03.320
Yeah, like when I think about representation in our democracy, what I really think about
00:40:08.600
is taking a misdemeanor charge in the state of New York, one that wasn't going to be prosecuted
00:40:13.640
by the DOJ or Cy Vance and trumping it up into 40 felony charges and deciding there's an
00:40:20.120
underlying crime with an FEC violation, again, that was not previously charged.
00:40:27.380
You know, and that's the ridiculous nature of all of this, Megan, right?
00:40:34.020
Like the subsection C before the United States Supreme Court, the subsection C that is supposed
00:40:39.920
to apply to financial crimes done by like Enron and Arthur Anderson can be applied to everybody
00:40:46.080
And Donald Trump can have a misdemeanor trumped up to 40 felonies.
00:40:52.800
Well, Michael, there was a woman, a solicitor that was arguing it before the court.
00:41:12.640
If she can adopt a white woman hair, can I adopt her black woman DEI's, my DEI's?
00:41:18.140
Is that I can that it's just that I think if you take a step back, it's just it's deranged
00:41:24.000
and disturbing of essentially you are doing everything you can to divide Americans.
00:41:29.760
That's the whole equity thing of being like, you know what?
00:41:32.500
I'm really happy that there's a lot of black people out here who can prosecute a white person.
00:41:38.780
This sounds like it's a very healthy thing to celebrate.
00:41:42.040
And then the rest of the people on the on the TV panel clap like seals.
00:41:52.040
But also can talk about their DEI's and the power that they're bringing in the same breath
00:42:02.020
It's not actually DEI's that you're concerned about.
00:42:05.200
It's progressive liberals that you're in any sort of form or shape.
00:42:09.600
And that's how gross is she to bring Stephen Miller into it?
00:42:16.320
Yeah, I'm sure they did oppose the affirmative action program that was unlawful as held by the
00:42:23.780
It's the fault of the people who put it in place, contrary to the Constitution.
00:42:28.600
You're not allowed to have that kind of a program.
00:42:31.840
And the Supreme Court's been telegraphing that it would go away for 20 years.
00:42:35.680
So but no, for Joy Reid, it means he doesn't want black people at Harvard.
00:42:39.320
All the black people in the world can get into Harvard just as long as they can get into
00:42:45.820
Right now, it's much easier to get into Harvard as a young black or man or woman than
00:42:55.240
There's no problem getting black people to Harvard as long as they have somewhat decent grades.
00:42:59.300
It's not not going to happen anymore because of Stephen Miller.
00:43:02.140
She just loves to gin up racial enmity wherever she can.
00:43:07.280
Yeah, I'd love to know her opinion on like a male Asian American getting into Harvard.
00:43:13.480
I would happen to think her opinion might be a little bit different.
00:43:25.420
So just talking about like the way the media is approaching the Trump cases is that's
00:43:31.000
Like, she's so proud that everybody's black involved.
00:43:37.200
It's like, seriously, think about if I were like, well, I'm just so proud that like all
00:43:48.680
It's like she gets away with it because blacks are 14 percent of the American population.
00:43:54.320
But like virtually none of them feel the way she does.
00:43:56.480
Only lunatic white women on the Upper West Side share her views or in Seattle or San Francisco.
00:44:03.060
You know, I have actually many black friends and people in my life.
00:44:08.580
She gets away with it over and over because she's on MSNBC.
00:44:14.680
But anyway, it's the same way to fund the police polls.
00:44:16.320
Like if you ask black voters their thoughts on to fund the police, they say, without a
00:44:21.360
doubt, absolutely not, except for the talking heads on TV and the white liberals in the Northeast
00:44:28.920
They're the ones who push this idea thinking, oh, you know, I want to be helpful to my DEIs.
00:44:35.820
So I think defunding the police is the way to do it.
00:44:39.920
OK, so here is George Stephanopoulos over the weekend trying to cross examine Chris Sununu
00:44:46.000
of New Hampshire, the governor who was behind Nikki Haley and now has said he's going to
00:44:54.620
I mean, we just put a montage together of the questions.
00:44:57.460
You tell me whether you think George Stephanopoulos understands the right half of America and came
00:45:05.340
Will your support for Donald Trump continue even if he's convicted?
00:45:10.120
You think it's you're you're comfortable with the idea of supporting someone who's convicted
00:45:17.380
You said that President Trump's rhetoric and actions contributed to the insurrection.
00:45:21.220
So please explain, given the fact that you believe he contributed to an insurrection,
00:45:25.620
how you can say we should have him back in the Oval Office?
00:45:28.920
Just to sum up, you would you support him for president even if he's convicted in classified
00:45:33.000
You support him for president even though you believe he contributed to an insurrection.
00:45:36.360
You support him for president even though you believe he's lying about the last election.
00:45:40.220
You'd support him for president even if he's convicted in the Manhattan case.
00:45:55.580
And just a demonstration of ABC's deep and abiding commitment to DEI and everything it stands
00:46:01.540
for by hiring a Democrat press secretary to once again anchor the news.
00:46:13.060
Like the right half of the country doesn't see these things as rising to the level of
00:46:18.820
They haven't been treated as crimes when we've had these so-called insurrections by the
00:46:23.480
Democrats challenging elections or turning over police stations, as we talked about earlier,
00:46:31.540
They're having trouble finding their outrage vein on these Trump behaviors because it's
00:46:43.180
And he took the documents when he wasn't even president.
00:46:45.980
I will say, I don't think Sununu was all that effective in responding to it, but it was just
00:46:52.600
And by the way, why do Republicans keep going on these shows?
00:47:02.280
I certainly wouldn't recommend it to anybody who I was advising.
00:47:06.160
Seems like Stephanopoulos has stepped on a lot of rakes lately.
00:47:09.760
By the way, he had that Nancy Mace thing, right?
00:47:14.100
But to the larger point here that he can't conceptualize, it's sort of amazing to me.
00:47:20.600
I can only imagine what your information flow and your silo of information and socialization
00:47:27.160
looks like when you can't understand, even if you are a Trump critic and you have had
00:47:34.700
a huge problem with January 6th and you didn't like any of the post-2020 stuff and you don't
00:47:39.720
like him personally and you think he's offensive, but you're a conservative and you're a Republican
00:47:44.160
and you're looking out at a absolutely feeble president of the United States that's running
00:47:49.760
this country down to the ground domestically and abroad, and you have a binary choice between
00:47:55.680
I don't understand why it's from a conception standpoint.
00:48:04.800
He's like, I talked to my friends at Soho House and I was at Deena to look at having a coffee
00:48:09.440
and everyone said that like Biden's doing a great job.
00:48:15.500
I also really love that the Protect Our Democracy coalition of Democrats in the media and the
00:48:21.040
party, like suddenly want you as a Republican to be like, no, you know, the voters who voted
00:48:27.800
for Donald Trump in this Republican primary made him the nominee.
00:48:32.860
Like it's actually profoundly undemocratic what they're hoping that they can convince some
00:48:39.120
Also, the same crew that expressed absolutely no outrage about the fact that this White House
00:48:42.760
tried to cancel all of their primaries and just re-nominate the president of the United
00:48:49.640
And remove Trump from the ballot in several states.
00:48:53.440
But that's what you get when the internal conversations at your network look like the
00:49:02.040
If you had half of that network who was Republicans, half of that network were Democrats, they would
00:49:07.260
have internal fights to just to re-center the perspective of the way they're approaching
00:49:14.960
There's nobody pushing back on him in the pre-meetings to say, hey, here's what half
00:49:21.680
You should really approach it this way if you want to actually get real news that the middle
00:49:28.540
And it's the same problem that they have at NPR, they have at ABC, they have at NBC,
00:49:33.780
There are no Republicans working at these networks.
00:49:37.020
And until they get at least half, I don't think Republicans need to go on.
00:49:44.580
They were probably doing high fives after that.
00:49:48.720
Just like the press secretary in Ilhan Omar's office pats her on the back when she goes
00:49:59.600
Yeah, it's just a perversion of all of these shows and the way that we cover news today on
00:50:05.980
Because, I mean, look, you remember back in the day, Tim Russert himself, a former Democratic
00:50:11.460
But when he got into that sort of prosecutorial back and forth, what it was always about in
00:50:17.160
his era was trying to get answers for things he felt like people were obfuscating from.
00:50:21.400
It wasn't a partisan prosecution based on a point of view that only half of this country
00:50:27.140
It was about trying to get answers on things like the Iraq war or things that were affecting
00:50:34.200
They have taken that model of a confrontational question and answer style to, you know, public
00:50:40.380
officials and just layered on top of it, absolute blatant, bald faced partisanship as what you're
00:50:48.760
trying to get out of the new model of journalism.
00:50:56.200
I give you Gayle King and Charles Barkley in their now defunct after six months show on
00:51:08.780
How are you able to work your way through that every day?
00:51:12.160
Because we can also say he's a truth teller, because when Bob Cost is sat down in the seat,
00:51:19.000
He said, and he goes, God, that thing's getting bigger.
00:51:21.620
Look, it's getting bigger, and hopefully it won't get so big.
00:51:25.400
Now, do you ever just like, hey, you know what, can we just talk about issues and not
00:51:29.020
talk about all the noise and the extracurricular stuff?
00:51:32.260
If you have a disagreement with a co-worker and they start giving you the silent treatment,
00:51:41.740
If you give me the silent treatment, I'm going to pretend you don't exist.
00:51:45.040
I hear that you get a lot of questions from people talking about smelly co-workers.
00:51:50.940
It's just like, excuse me, but are you dealing with something?
00:51:57.440
Something tells me, Charles, this will not be the last, just saying, this will not be
00:52:16.160
They were drawing an average of 459,000 total viewers, 100,000 in the key demo of 25 to 54.
00:52:27.260
They were up against Gutfeld, just for, you know, comparison.
00:52:34.440
Even Lawrence O'Donnell on MSNBC had 1.5 million up against this.
00:52:41.760
And the only thing CNN is able to say is it wasn't a failure because we attracted an audience
00:52:55.840
I was listening to, I'm kind of a fan of Charles Barkley and his NBA and basketball analysis.
00:53:00.080
And I was listening to a sports talk thing when this whole thing was announced.
00:53:03.420
And he's like, yeah, man, all my friends tell me this is a tremendous mistake.
00:53:13.900
Do you feel like people didn't want a close up of Gayle King's cold sore?
00:53:19.820
And I don't know what she was calling attention to on her lip.
00:53:25.520
They subjected people of color to that garbage.
00:53:33.820
They can't find good TV and are listening on NPR.