The Megyn Kelly Show - December 15, 2024


Best of the Week： Trump vs. NBC, Insane CEO Assassination Reaction, Caitlin Clark Bends the Knee


Episode Stats

Length

54 minutes

Words per Minute

178.26057

Word Count

9,660

Sentence Count

682

Misogynist Sentences

46

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Donald Trump goes on Meet the Press with Kristen Welterry Welker, and they get into what s going to happen in his second term with respect to immigration. Plus, a look at the WNBA s Caitlyn Clark and why she bent the knee to race hustlers and apologized for her whiteness.


Transcript

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00:00:30.620 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show,
00:00:32.500 live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.
00:00:42.580 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly.
00:00:44.360 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show
00:00:45.580 and today's weekend, best of special.
00:00:48.340 We had a busy week on the program,
00:00:49.900 beginning on Monday,
00:00:50.800 looking at two important moments
00:00:52.560 for President-elect Donald Trump.
00:00:54.660 We broke down his lengthy and substantive interview
00:00:57.280 with NBC News with Batya Anghar-Sargon
00:01:00.400 and his overseas trip to Paris featuring a friendly little chat
00:01:04.960 with Jill Biden and Prince William.
00:01:07.500 And Trump's reaction to that was hilarious.
00:01:10.340 Then Heather McDonald was here to talk about the insane reaction
00:01:14.220 to the murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson
00:01:16.660 from the leftists and some in the media.
00:01:19.420 The fellas from the Ruthless program stopped by
00:01:22.060 to talk through the Caitlin Clark story,
00:01:24.560 how she bent the knee to the race hustlers in the WNBA
00:01:29.100 and apologizing for her whiteness.
00:01:31.220 We got into that and more.
00:01:33.100 We'll be back on Monday.
00:01:34.520 See you then.
00:01:34.880 Donald Trump goes on Meet the Press this weekend
00:01:38.120 in an extraordinary hour-plus exchange with Kristen Welker.
00:01:42.220 And they got into what's going to happen in his second term
00:01:46.540 with respect to immigration.
00:01:49.920 Here, I'm just going to play some for you.
00:01:52.900 Here is Sot 4.
00:01:54.940 Take a listen.
00:01:56.320 You've talked about prioritizing people
00:01:58.520 who have criminal histories.
00:01:59.860 Correct.
00:02:00.280 But is it your plan to deport everyone
00:02:02.800 who is here illegally over the next four years?
00:02:05.680 Well, I think you have to do it.
00:02:07.560 And it's a very tough thing to do.
00:02:10.660 You're saying, yes, you're going to focus
00:02:12.220 on the people with criminal histories,
00:02:13.700 but everyone who's here illegally has to go.
00:02:16.200 I'm saying this.
00:02:17.720 We have to get the criminals out of our country.
00:02:19.760 And you see what they've done in Colorado and other places.
00:02:22.660 They're taking over, literally taking over apartment complexes
00:02:25.720 and doing it with impunity.
00:02:28.000 They don't care.
00:02:28.740 They couldn't.
00:02:29.680 They just are taking, they're in the real estate.
00:02:31.420 You know, the local police say
00:02:32.640 that is not the case in Colorado.
00:02:34.960 Oh, it's totally the case.
00:02:36.240 Is it realistic to deport everyone who's here illegally?
00:02:39.000 They have no choice.
00:02:39.820 First of all, they're costing us a fortune.
00:02:42.160 But we're starting with the criminals,
00:02:44.260 and we got to do it.
00:02:45.700 And then we're starting with others.
00:02:47.240 And we're going to see how it goes.
00:02:49.240 Who are the others?
00:02:50.120 Others are other people outside of criminals.
00:02:52.360 Okay, so there was that.
00:02:55.900 And there is a problem with Venezuelan gangs in Colorado.
00:03:03.280 Take a look at the very in-depth piece that City Journal did on it.
00:03:06.280 I don't know why she's pretending that it's not a problem,
00:03:08.220 but, you know, that's NBC for you.
00:03:09.940 Here is a little bit more on the subject of children and families in Sot 5.
00:03:18.120 Talking about parents who might be here illegally,
00:03:20.740 but the kids are here legally.
00:03:23.460 Your borders are at Tom Homan.
00:03:24.040 You're talking about separation?
00:03:25.400 Well, I mean, there are two aspects to this.
00:03:28.300 Your borders are at Tom Homan said they can be deported together.
00:03:31.100 Correct.
00:03:31.280 Is that the plan?
00:03:31.940 Well, that way you keep the...
00:03:32.940 Well, I don't want to be breaking up families,
00:03:35.900 so the only way you don't break up the family is you keep them together
00:03:38.780 and you have to send them all back.
00:03:40.340 Even kids who are here legally?
00:03:42.480 Well, what you're going to do if they want to stay with the father...
00:03:45.640 Look, we have to have rules and regulations.
00:03:47.520 You can always find something out like, you know,
00:03:49.680 this doesn't work, that doesn't work.
00:03:51.400 I'll tell you what's going to be horrible.
00:03:53.500 When we take a wonderful young woman who's with a criminal
00:03:58.180 and they show the woman, and she could stay by the law,
00:04:03.060 but they show the woman being taken out, or they want her out.
00:04:08.200 And your cameras are focused on her as she's crying,
00:04:11.040 as she's being taken out of our country,
00:04:12.840 and then the public turns against us.
00:04:15.020 But we have to do our job.
00:04:17.820 Good for Trump.
00:04:19.060 I mean, he's exactly right that he's anticipating where this plan
00:04:22.440 is going to meet significant pushback from the press,
00:04:26.580 which is when there's a child to an illegal
00:04:30.640 or a sympathetic woman who's married to or with an illegal.
00:04:34.880 And Tom Homan is saying, the illegal's going,
00:04:38.100 and if you don't want to separate the families,
00:04:39.660 you have the choice of going with them.
00:04:41.560 And then the media will look at the rest of us
00:04:43.880 who are favored deportations and say,
00:04:45.620 it's your fault, as opposed to the decision of this illegal
00:04:49.900 who decided to bring a child here or send a child here,
00:04:54.060 notwithstanding the fact that they have no right to be here.
00:04:56.320 I really recommend people watch that whole interview.
00:05:00.660 It's an incredible hour and 15 minutes,
00:05:02.860 not least because of the way it was misrepresented
00:05:04.840 by the headlines in the liberal press.
00:05:07.060 But I think when Trump writes his memoirs
00:05:09.740 and looks back on his life,
00:05:11.380 this will be like the sweetest time.
00:05:13.600 He's in his magnanimous era.
00:05:16.120 He has been so thoroughly vindicated on so many fronts,
00:05:20.900 and it has brought out this unbelievably confident,
00:05:25.440 magnanimous side of his personality.
00:05:28.240 You know, even when he's criticizing the journalist,
00:05:31.080 he doesn't call her nasty in this interview.
00:05:33.000 He just says to her, you know, you have so much potential,
00:05:36.720 which I thought was really funny.
00:05:38.940 That was like the most ad hominem he would go.
00:05:41.140 He's in a really wonderful place right now.
00:05:43.320 And the three, to me, the three headlines would have been,
00:05:46.380 if I was sort of covering this, honestly,
00:05:48.740 would have been the last question she asked him is,
00:05:51.440 what is your message to Americans who did not vote for you
00:05:53.980 and did not support you?
00:05:55.120 And his answer, Megan, was, I love you.
00:05:58.200 He said that he was invested in protecting the dreamers,
00:06:01.540 especially the ones who are older and middle-aged
00:06:04.000 and contributing a lot and have good jobs.
00:06:06.400 And he said that he was not interested
00:06:07.840 in any kind of retribution.
00:06:09.320 He said, again, our success will be our retribution.
00:06:13.100 He said he's not going to get involved
00:06:14.700 in Pam Bondi's work or in Kash Patel's work.
00:06:17.780 He's going to let them do their jobs.
00:06:19.820 I mean, these were real headlines
00:06:21.200 that, of course, nobody pointed out.
00:06:23.560 As to immigration, I think you're totally right.
00:06:26.640 You know, Homan is so the perfect man for this job
00:06:30.160 because he could care less what anybody thinks about him.
00:06:32.880 He is an unbelievable patriot
00:06:34.800 and feels that it is his job to protect the American people.
00:06:38.340 And honestly, Megan, Trump is very sensitive to the headlines.
00:06:41.660 He's thinking ahead about how to sort of preempt them,
00:06:44.100 how to protect himself from those accusations
00:06:45.880 from the unfair media.
00:06:46.920 But I got to say, he was given a mandate
00:06:49.800 by the American people to do exactly this.
00:06:53.040 And the media has lost all credibility
00:06:55.720 because in opposing him in the most dishonest
00:06:59.380 and vitriolic way, it was revealed on November 5th
00:07:02.980 that they were opposing the American people.
00:07:05.520 Their hatred for Donald Trump was revealed for what it is,
00:07:08.560 which is hatred for the American people.
00:07:10.560 And so when the media stands up and says,
00:07:12.780 look at this racism, look at this cruelty,
00:07:15.660 how dare they try to deport these lovely families,
00:07:19.040 the American people are going to say,
00:07:21.120 hey, that's me you're calling racist.
00:07:23.200 I voted for this.
00:07:25.260 And so I think we're going to see
00:07:26.360 a really different relationship
00:07:27.740 between the administration and the media.
00:07:29.560 And if we don't, it is the media
00:07:31.280 who's going to suffer, not the administration.
00:07:34.220 Moreover, tell it to the American families right now
00:07:37.220 that are dealing with schools that are overrun
00:07:39.800 by children from these foreign countries
00:07:42.240 who are not here lawfully.
00:07:44.600 And now in places like New York,
00:07:45.760 you have to have a translator speak in the native tongue
00:07:49.040 of all the children who are represented.
00:07:51.580 So no matter where they're from,
00:07:52.940 they can't even find enough translators,
00:07:54.680 nevermind ask them whether they have teaching capacities.
00:07:58.140 It's absolutely unworkable.
00:08:00.760 So I think a lot of previously sympathetic Americans
00:08:03.100 have had it, voted for Trump to get rid of,
00:08:05.900 yes, even the children.
00:08:07.680 I'm sorry, but they have to go.
00:08:09.740 If you want to go back home and apply for asylum
00:08:12.860 or try to get in legally,
00:08:14.600 like so many millions have done before you,
00:08:16.780 you should do that.
00:08:17.760 But you have no right to break our laws
00:08:19.380 to enter the country unlawfully
00:08:20.840 and then just play your sad violin
00:08:22.800 and tell us we should allow you to stay here.
00:08:24.960 There are procedures for that.
00:08:26.180 You flouted them.
00:08:28.380 Hold on.
00:08:29.020 Here's a little reaction after Trump appeared in SOT 28.
00:08:31.620 You know, I was struck by how succinctly,
00:08:35.060 the president-elect, summed up his mandate.
00:08:36.900 I think one of the things that was most fascinating
00:08:38.520 is he didn't seem very combative in this interview.
00:08:41.280 But he didn't want to fight with you.
00:08:43.240 And I thought he looked very relaxed and confident.
00:08:45.500 Yes, the tone was different,
00:08:47.180 but it doesn't mean it's a difference in his priorities.
00:08:49.860 So what struck me is more tone,
00:08:52.420 not a difference in what he intends to do
00:08:54.940 or what he wants the people he's nominating to do.
00:08:57.080 Jen Psaki with the still Hitler, still Hitler,
00:09:00.840 notwithstanding the new tone.
00:09:03.660 Here's the last one I want to play for you, Bajit,
00:09:05.340 and that is the discussion about
00:09:07.260 whether he's going to go after his enemies,
00:09:09.180 in particular, potentially with Kash Patel
00:09:11.220 if he gets confirmed as head of the FBI.
00:09:14.060 SOT 6.
00:09:15.720 He has a list in his book of 60 people
00:09:18.580 that he calls members of the so-called deep state.
00:09:20.780 Do you want Kash Patel to launch investigations
00:09:23.460 into people on that list?
00:09:24.780 No, I mean, he's going to do what he thinks is right.
00:09:27.500 Do you think that's right?
00:09:28.620 Do you think that's right, sir?
00:09:31.900 If they think that somebody was dishonest
00:09:34.440 or crooked or corrupt politician,
00:09:36.760 I think he probably has an obligation to do it.
00:09:39.140 Are you going to go after Joe Biden?
00:09:41.460 I'm really looking to make our country successful.
00:09:44.180 I'm not looking to go back into the past.
00:09:46.400 I'm looking to make our country successful.
00:09:50.640 Retribution will be through success.
00:09:52.240 Pretty remarkable in terms of tone, yes.
00:09:56.480 But also, Jen Psaki, the actual messaging,
00:09:59.560 retribution will be our success.
00:10:02.140 Do you think that the media will accept it?
00:10:04.300 And do you believe it?
00:10:05.940 Because he didn't rule out entirely
00:10:08.700 Kash Patel going after his political enemies.
00:10:11.580 He just said if somebody's corrupt or crooked,
00:10:13.620 he'd have an obligation to do it.
00:10:15.420 But I believe retribution is achieved through success.
00:10:19.680 Well, he didn't go after Hillary Clinton
00:10:22.180 the first time around, right?
00:10:23.440 We have a record.
00:10:24.400 That's what's so insane
00:10:25.480 about all the accusations against him.
00:10:27.340 We were all there.
00:10:28.640 It was four years ago.
00:10:30.740 They act like that never happened.
00:10:33.760 It's so ridiculous.
00:10:35.380 I honestly think Donald Trump
00:10:36.760 only cares about two things.
00:10:38.280 He cares about no more wars.
00:10:39.780 He hates war because he thinks it's wasteful.
00:10:41.780 And he wants an incredible economy
00:10:44.020 that will lift up the working class,
00:10:46.560 hardworking people who work and work and work
00:10:49.160 and can't get ahead.
00:10:50.100 He really, those are his priorities.
00:10:52.280 That's what he cares about.
00:10:53.960 He really wants the people in his cabinet
00:10:56.300 to do what they view as the mandate
00:10:59.460 given by the American people
00:11:00.780 so that he can focus on those things.
00:11:02.720 The idea that he's on some sort of revenge tour
00:11:05.680 is so, so ridiculous.
00:11:08.020 And you know what, Megan?
00:11:08.880 It's just a pure projection.
00:11:11.860 Every accusation from the Democrats
00:11:14.060 is a confession.
00:11:15.680 They spent four years waging revenge
00:11:18.620 against Donald Trump for beating Hillary Clinton.
00:11:21.080 They tried to put this man in prison
00:11:22.680 for the crime of trying to elevate
00:11:25.040 the American working class.
00:11:26.960 It is they who are hell-bent on revenge.
00:11:29.820 It is they who have politicized
00:11:32.060 the Justice Department.
00:11:33.480 It is they who think that they are above the law.
00:11:35.620 I don't know if you saw this,
00:11:36.680 but Biden apparently is planning
00:11:38.380 mass preemptive pardons,
00:11:41.120 meaning for people who have not even been yet accused
00:11:43.880 of anything, suggesting that if you are elite enough
00:11:46.700 in the Democratic Party,
00:11:47.940 you cannot even be accused of a crime
00:11:50.860 or indicted for a crime
00:11:52.760 or investigated for a crime
00:11:54.320 if you are close enough to the Biden family.
00:11:56.320 I mean, it just, it is this
00:11:58.360 from the so-called defenders of democracy.
00:12:00.880 So I think that this is all just pure projection.
00:12:03.640 And I really believe that Trump has no reason
00:12:07.060 not to be this magnanimous version of himself going forward,
00:12:11.620 given the support and the mandate
00:12:13.260 that the American people have given him.
00:12:15.300 He truly is a leader.
00:12:17.040 He is a reflection of what Americans want.
00:12:19.720 And he was that before they knew that in 2016,
00:12:22.580 when we were a little bit more divided
00:12:24.400 around these issues.
00:12:25.340 So I think it's going to be a great four years.
00:12:28.380 It's so crazy with the, you know,
00:12:30.200 the Democrats are the ones who started the law fair.
00:12:32.800 They're the first ones to cross that Rubicon.
00:12:34.740 They did it.
00:12:35.740 And now they're acting like, oh, he's going to target.
00:12:38.160 You know, we've got to preemptively pardon people
00:12:39.820 like Adam Schiff and Adam Kinzinger.
00:12:42.600 I don't know who else is on their imaginary list.
00:12:44.600 I'm sure we're going to find out.
00:12:46.100 As though Trump has done this before.
00:12:48.340 They did this.
00:12:49.780 You know, my husband, Doug,
00:12:51.440 he used to watch our little dogs
00:12:53.100 when we'd take them to the park.
00:12:54.780 And like the male dog, Bailey,
00:12:56.380 he would pee on like a fire hydrant.
00:12:58.620 And then another male dog would come and pee on it.
00:13:00.600 And then Bailey would pee on it.
00:13:01.680 And then the other dog,
00:13:02.240 and Doug would just say,
00:13:03.180 it's like a nuclear arms race.
00:13:04.280 You know, like everybody keeps trying to escalate.
00:13:07.800 And that's the Democrats.
00:13:09.860 You know, it's like everybody peed on the fire hydrant.
00:13:12.240 That was the thing.
00:13:12.720 But then they went and they peed
00:13:13.740 on like the leg of an actual human.
00:13:15.520 And then, and now they're worried
00:13:18.160 that like our side is going to do that.
00:13:19.880 It's like, you know,
00:13:20.540 you guys are the only ones who did that.
00:13:22.440 You don't have to create some new rule
00:13:24.640 saying no one can pee on the humans.
00:13:26.520 Like you're the only ones who ever did it.
00:13:28.900 Also interesting was his trip over to France.
00:13:35.300 He attended the reopening of the Notre Dame Cathedral,
00:13:37.740 which we were all thrilled to see happen.
00:13:39.900 One of the world's treasures.
00:13:42.420 And a very interesting moment where he sat
00:13:47.040 one away from Jill Biden
00:13:49.440 and the person in between them got up.
00:13:51.680 And so it was just those two for a moment.
00:13:53.280 And they were super friendly with,
00:13:55.760 here's a full screen of it, picture.
00:13:57.240 They were smiling.
00:13:59.360 And so many people had a million captions for this.
00:14:02.180 I'll stay on you for this one, Link.
00:14:04.180 How would you caption that one
00:14:05.500 with Jill and Trump smiling at each other?
00:14:08.460 The only times we've seen Jill Biden smile recently
00:14:11.600 are when she's with Donald Trump.
00:14:14.160 She is smiling ear to ear in the picture
00:14:16.000 when he came to the White House recently.
00:14:17.840 She's having the time of her life
00:14:19.140 hanging out with him in Paris.
00:14:20.820 Donald Trump, we don't need another season
00:14:22.600 of Emily in Paris.
00:14:23.840 We need Donald Trump in Paris.
00:14:25.560 He was over there having a great time.
00:14:27.560 He was holding court.
00:14:28.920 I was shocked he didn't come home
00:14:30.260 wearing a beret,
00:14:31.080 smoking one of those long, obnoxious cigarettes.
00:14:33.080 So Donald Trump was having a great time in Paris.
00:14:36.720 Jill Biden, she looks so happy.
00:14:38.280 She looks like she just got a pardon.
00:14:39.960 And if Biden can pardon the turkey and Hunter,
00:14:42.340 might as well give her one too.
00:14:44.240 She may wind up getting one.
00:14:45.580 There are going to be a lot of Bidens
00:14:46.680 who still get pardoned.
00:14:47.600 But it was very interesting, Amala,
00:14:49.200 to see the two of them over there, chummy.
00:14:51.740 It was to the point where it became such a meme
00:14:54.260 that Trump put out this full screen,
00:14:57.600 this sort of like graphic ad
00:14:59.300 showing Jill and Trump together.
00:15:03.340 Was it Trump who put this?
00:15:04.200 Yeah, it was for Trump who put this out.
00:15:05.340 And it reads,
00:15:06.280 a fragrance your enemies can't resist.
00:15:09.680 And it says, fight, fight, fight.
00:15:11.400 And it actually is a Trump fragrance
00:15:13.120 that he's trying to market right now.
00:15:16.160 So what do you make of it?
00:15:17.060 Is there a, yeah, are they actually friendly?
00:15:20.760 Did they both vote for the same person?
00:15:23.440 You know, they just might have.
00:15:25.240 We all saw Jill Biden on election day
00:15:27.720 where she was strutting around
00:15:28.820 in that bright red suit of hers
00:15:30.660 and she was smiling ear to ear.
00:15:32.460 And she has been virtually ever since.
00:15:34.920 Maybe it just felt good to be sitting next
00:15:36.540 to a lucid president with Donald Trump.
00:15:38.800 But you can watch with everybody in the room.
00:15:41.980 Every single eye is on him.
00:15:43.500 They cannot look away from him.
00:15:44.740 So I was thinking he might,
00:15:46.440 he just very well might have that fragrance on
00:15:48.680 because people were gravitating towards this man.
00:15:51.140 And we've watched over the past, what, I don't know,
00:15:53.000 eight years as these individuals have attacked him.
00:15:56.220 They've cast him aside.
00:15:57.520 They've laughed at him
00:15:58.620 in this sort of move of political theater
00:16:00.460 that we saw in reference to the Trump administration
00:16:02.560 and to the Trump campaign in this last election.
00:16:05.460 But now that he's won,
00:16:07.180 they are just gravitating towards him.
00:16:08.820 He's like a magnet.
00:16:10.680 Here, we saw in that video
00:16:12.060 that he was shaking hands with the Italian prime minister
00:16:15.720 and we saw Prince William standing there shaking his hand.
00:16:21.620 And Trump, after the fact, like, said something.
00:16:24.880 Is this, we don't have this on tape, right?
00:16:26.360 Do we have that on tape?
00:16:28.220 Oh, it's via the New York Post.
00:16:29.940 Was commenting on how attractive Prince William is,
00:16:33.660 saying, you know, he's such a good looking guy
00:16:36.100 and was saying, even more handsome in person.
00:16:40.760 He goes, he's a good looking guy.
00:16:43.120 He looked really very handsome last night.
00:16:46.060 Some people look better in person.
00:16:47.800 He looked great.
00:16:48.580 He looked really nice.
00:16:49.460 And I told him that.
00:16:51.560 Which is like the highest form of currency with Trump.
00:16:54.760 Well, one thing about Trump is he loves central casting.
00:16:58.520 We're about to have the hottest cabinet
00:17:00.300 in American history, okay?
00:17:01.920 If you're hot, you're blonde, you're ripped,
00:17:04.720 then you're probably gonna be in the cabinet
00:17:06.580 with Donald Trump.
00:17:07.540 You know what I'm saying?
00:17:08.140 We've got Pete Hegseth.
00:17:09.560 And everybody's all shocked about Pete Hegseth.
00:17:11.980 I'm like, you think men with cheekbones
00:17:13.400 and jaws like that have been perfectly good boys
00:17:15.540 their whole lives?
00:17:16.340 No, it's central casting.
00:17:17.880 And as for Prince William,
00:17:20.040 I think Prince William is thinking,
00:17:21.660 I've lost my hair up top,
00:17:23.320 so I'm gonna do the scruff to sort of balance it out.
00:17:26.060 But when I saw Trump with Prince William,
00:17:28.200 the body language was great.
00:17:29.800 This is what we need with international relations.
00:17:32.460 Prince William, unfortunately, King Charles is sick.
00:17:34.800 He will likely be king very soon.
00:17:36.740 And I couldn't help but think about Prince Harry
00:17:38.840 and Meghan Markle waltzing around their McMansion
00:17:41.880 in Montecito, complaining about how famous they are.
00:17:44.660 I really think those two little hucksters
00:17:46.600 thought they were gonna be in like Flint
00:17:48.720 if Kamala Harris won
00:17:49.980 because they're best friends with Oprah Winfrey.
00:17:52.060 She was, you know, out there campaigning for Kamala.
00:17:54.300 Now they're gonna have to sit there irrelevant as ever.
00:17:57.060 I know, all she has left is her little jars of jam, Amala.
00:18:02.620 She's not going to be the first lady of Montecito.
00:18:06.600 She's not gonna be anything other than a jam proprietor,
00:18:09.640 which is fine, it's fine.
00:18:11.080 It just wasn't her lifetime goals.
00:18:13.400 She's out there with Tyler Perry and Oprah
00:18:16.340 instead of welcoming the incoming president
00:18:19.680 of the United States as she might have
00:18:21.900 if she had just, oh, done the terrible work
00:18:24.540 of sticking with the royal family.
00:18:27.120 Oh yeah, it's so hard to be around those racists
00:18:29.720 who are concerned about her skin color.
00:18:31.820 And I'm sorry, did any of us think
00:18:33.700 that Meghan Markle was really that black?
00:18:35.480 Are we looking at the same individual?
00:18:37.260 I just really don't believe the narrative
00:18:39.380 that she spun about this family.
00:18:40.940 And it's so interesting that everywhere she goes,
00:18:43.100 this sort of victimhood mentality follows her.
00:18:45.840 And she claims she had no idea
00:18:47.600 what she was getting into when meeting Prince Harry
00:18:50.400 and could not even imagine what her life
00:18:52.440 was going to be like on the other end of it.
00:18:53.920 I'm thinking, mm-hmm, okay.
00:18:55.400 We know you were a husband hunting
00:18:56.660 and we know you had a scope on the rifle.
00:18:58.240 You knew exactly what you were dealing with
00:18:59.840 when you got in bed with that man.
00:19:01.800 And now we're gonna see,
00:19:03.180 because with this move towards conservatism
00:19:05.640 that's coming with Trump,
00:19:06.680 I think we're gonna see this in Europe as well.
00:19:09.540 And with Macron being there,
00:19:11.100 France has been struggling in his sense
00:19:13.440 with an uptick in right-leaning views.
00:19:16.200 And I think all of them are going to be dealing with that
00:19:18.860 under this Trump administration.
00:19:20.320 It's so true.
00:19:21.880 Like Trump has provided everyone
00:19:23.140 with a roadmap of how to do it.
00:19:24.440 If even Trump could get re-elected after J6,
00:19:27.200 after all the fascism claims and the Hitler claims,
00:19:29.900 and the American people spoke overwhelmingly,
00:19:31.760 saying, we don't care.
00:19:32.960 We want a different way of living.
00:19:34.380 We wanna go back to basics here in America.
00:19:36.700 We need a factory reset on this nonsense.
00:19:39.480 Then there's a roadmap for other world leaders to say,
00:19:43.140 I see what people want.
00:19:44.980 We've been led astray, going in the wrong direction.
00:19:47.360 I wanna show you this too.
00:19:49.840 Trump shook hands with Zelensky at the LSA Palace,
00:19:54.380 who was, they were there with Emmanuel Macron on Saturday.
00:19:57.480 And it was an interesting handshake.
00:19:59.440 You know, Trump is famous or infamous for his handshakes,
00:20:01.500 the power handshakes where he pulls you in.
00:20:03.360 He loves to pull you in.
00:20:05.040 He's holding him and holding him.
00:20:07.140 Okay, so there we go.
00:20:08.940 He held him.
00:20:09.860 And now here's Macron next to him, the three of them.
00:20:13.180 And here we go.
00:20:13.880 This is back example where he pulls in Macron.
00:20:17.360 See, like, there he goes.
00:20:18.180 And then it turns into like, look, holding.
00:20:21.280 He doesn't let go of him.
00:20:23.360 Look at him.
00:20:24.080 He won't let go.
00:20:25.460 This is when he met with Macron.
00:20:26.820 What is it with Trump and the handshake?
00:20:28.920 What's happening?
00:20:29.500 Look, yeah.
00:20:30.560 Look, look, look.
00:20:31.300 There he goes again.
00:20:32.420 Elbow up.
00:20:32.940 There we go.
00:20:33.620 Now, elbow up above Macron.
00:20:36.580 Mm-hmm.
00:20:37.320 It's like clearly a sign of dominance.
00:20:39.640 Love to get a body language on, expert.
00:20:41.620 But what do you guys make of the handshake?
00:20:44.960 Well, as someone who is a body language expert, I will tell you, this is just a man with bravado,
00:20:51.220 machismo.
00:20:52.000 This is a guy who is totally in control.
00:20:54.300 Trump has climbed the highest mountain twice.
00:20:56.840 And I said recently, everybody around the world, all these world leaders, they either
00:21:01.100 fear or revere Donald Trump.
00:21:03.200 And those are two really great places to be in because we're so used to Joe Biden shuffling
00:21:07.760 in.
00:21:08.060 They put him on the back of these photos now at the summit.
00:21:10.380 Nobody respects him.
00:21:11.900 Donald Trump is coming in and everybody's attention has been heightened.
00:21:15.080 So I was really happy to see this.
00:21:16.840 As for Zelensky, could the man not put a suit on?
00:21:19.920 If I was going to meet my sugar daddy, the man who's been funding my country with hundreds
00:21:24.260 of billions of dollars, I would have put a suit on, you know?
00:21:27.200 So I don't understand what Zelensky, maybe he can't throw on a suit and tie.
00:21:30.420 But Trump is definitely asserting his dominance.
00:21:33.240 I do want to tell you something funny about the handshake.
00:21:35.120 Like my husband, Doug, asked one of our friends who's CIA about the Trump handshake.
00:21:41.260 And he showed us a way that like a man, I mean, he doesn't do this to women, but that
00:21:45.760 a man can like stop the crushing grip and then pulling you in.
00:21:50.180 It's like a maneuver that the CIA guys know where like you can, you can Trump the dominant
00:21:56.000 pull in.
00:21:56.960 And we were like, oh, that's good.
00:21:58.040 That's good.
00:21:58.480 You know, we'll have to remember that.
00:21:59.860 Not me, but Doug.
00:22:00.780 And then we talked to Jack Carr, famous author and Navy SEAL.
00:22:05.340 And he said, oh no, that can easily be counteracted and showed us a double secret, triple secret
00:22:12.440 move to counter the CIA move.
00:22:14.940 So now, I mean, poor Doug has got a lot to remember.
00:22:20.740 I'm so grossed out by this reaction to the murder of this insurance company CEO.
00:22:27.000 And it's pretty widespread on the left, how they are lionizing the alleged murderer.
00:22:33.920 And I mentioned Taylor Lorenz because she's pretty indicative of it.
00:22:37.880 She worked for the New York Times.
00:22:39.320 She worked for the Washington Post.
00:22:41.140 She was fired by the Washington Post this fall when she posted on her Instagram, Joe
00:22:46.500 Biden is a war criminal.
00:22:48.240 When they chastised her for posting such a thing as a so-called reporter, she denied she
00:22:54.380 had done it and claimed she'd been hacked.
00:22:56.600 They fired her, not believing her excuse.
00:22:58.740 And then a month or so later, she definitely posted on her social media, Joe Biden is a war
00:23:03.740 criminal, kind of removing the mystery about whether it had been her the first time.
00:23:08.060 And now this woman is all over online on her Substack and elsewhere trying to justify this
00:23:12.900 man's murder and goes on with Piers Morgan on his YouTube show last night saying the following.
00:23:20.640 I do believe in the sanctity of life.
00:23:22.840 And I think that's why I felt, along with so many other Americans, joy, unfortunately,
00:23:28.620 you know, because it feels like.
00:23:30.660 Serious?
00:23:31.180 I mean.
00:23:32.140 Joy in the man's execution?
00:23:33.800 Maybe not joy, but certainly not.
00:23:35.600 No, certainly not empathy.
00:23:37.460 He's a father and he's being young down in the middle of Manhattan.
00:23:41.520 Why is that making you joyful?
00:23:42.900 So are the tens of thousands of Americans, innocent Americans, who died because greedy
00:23:52.140 health insurance executives like this one push policies of denying care to the most
00:23:57.200 vulnerable people.
00:23:57.720 Should they all be killed then?
00:23:59.140 Should they all be killed, these health care executives?
00:24:01.340 Would that make you even more joyful?
00:24:03.860 No.
00:24:04.300 To be joyful or even to even say you're not empathetic about somebody losing their life
00:24:08.420 when they leave behind two young boys.
00:24:10.520 Taylor, I don't mean to be rude, but why the fuck are you laughing all the time?
00:24:13.800 I don't get it.
00:24:15.260 Sorry, apologies for my language, but honestly, I find it unbelievable.
00:24:19.400 What are you laughing at?
00:24:20.500 I'm laughing at Tommy's insane mischaracterization of why people are angry.
00:24:30.180 Okay.
00:24:30.840 Your thoughts on it, Heather?
00:24:32.760 Wow.
00:24:33.300 We have a real problem in this country.
00:24:35.760 The left has a real problem.
00:24:37.400 I found it, in a sense, frustrating to hear you initially, Megan, rebutting the claim that
00:24:44.980 this was somehow a justified act because it seemed like it's tragic that we have to concede
00:24:50.560 that much to even engage with these people.
00:24:53.360 It should be so patently obvious that you're not allowed to kill because you disagree with
00:24:57.980 somebody politically.
00:24:58.880 And to even engage in that argument is to concede too much, but obviously we need to.
00:25:05.460 Let's recall these are the same group of intersectional allies that also celebrated
00:25:11.020 the Hamas attacks.
00:25:15.400 There's something that has gone fundamentally wrong with the left's understanding about some
00:25:21.380 basic moral truths, which is you don't get to narcissistically kill some figurehead because
00:25:27.660 you'd feel like you're in pain after back surgery and you don't get to kill on the basis of
00:25:33.660 political beliefs.
00:25:35.780 But we also have assassinations on Trump.
00:25:39.380 This is being a poison that's being bred in the universities, which proceeds with a Manichean
00:25:46.100 worldview about the evil of anything associated with capitalism, with anything associated with
00:25:52.720 Western civilization, and that glorifies alleged victims, alleged marginalized, and clearly is
00:26:01.080 very closely positioned to the next step, which is that it's okay to kill.
00:26:09.040 This is, Lawrence is basically a mainstream media figure.
00:26:13.040 Yeah, and is giving voice to what we've seen all over the internet, thirsting after this guy and
00:26:22.600 celebrating his looks and counting him as some sort of courageous guy, as they say, who shoots a man
00:26:29.340 dead in the street, an unarmed man in the back.
00:26:32.400 And in the left's world, this is courage.
00:26:36.460 Here is that guy, Tim Miller, who couldn't find the stones, Heather, to ask Doug Emhoff,
00:26:40.480 who he had right across from him, right after the story broke that he had, according to his
00:26:47.340 ex-girlfriend, slapped her with an open hand across the face so hard outside of a festival in
00:26:53.400 Cannes, France, that she spun, this is like a year before he got together with Kamala Harris,
00:26:58.320 he couldn't find the stones to ask him the question, would you like to respond to that?
00:27:02.760 Is it true that you hit this woman?
00:27:04.340 You who are being lauded by the left as the new version of masculinity, non-toxic,
00:27:09.760 the way the Republican version is?
00:27:12.180 This guy, Tim Miller, couldn't find the stones to ask him those questions.
00:27:15.940 But here he is today with his thoughts about this alleged killer of CEO Brian Thompson.
00:27:23.380 There's a lot to unpack here, including his six-pack would be among the things you need to
00:27:29.280 unpack.
00:27:29.860 He did post it, yes.
00:27:31.220 This is a very attractive man, and I am attracted to the shooter.
00:27:37.020 And I have to just say, not exactly my type.
00:27:41.580 I mean, objectively handsome.
00:27:42.840 I think once you kill someone.
00:27:44.140 Not exactly my type, yeah.
00:27:45.680 In that category, kind of the Boston Marathon bomber was kind of a little bit more my wheelhouse.
00:27:52.080 He works for the bulwark.
00:27:56.100 You know, I have to feel sometimes that the anarchism of the early 20th century, that we're
00:28:03.820 past that, that that kind of solipsistic embrace of evil and of the notion that you have a right
00:28:13.460 to go around killing people that you disagree with, we're certainly never going to return to that degree of
00:28:20.580 of contagious insanity.
00:28:23.620 But listening to this, I don't know.
00:28:26.260 We are moving in that direction.
00:28:28.680 You know, this is not, and it's not even an underground movement.
00:28:32.340 You know, the anarchists were understood as enemies of the state, and they did everything they could to
00:28:37.960 cover their tracks and, and, and cover their propaganda to a certain extent, although they were also out there
00:28:43.820 leafleting, but their, their homicidal intentions were not exactly out in the open.
00:28:49.420 But these are people that are going onto social media, the most public realm in the world, and proclaiming
00:28:56.200 that they don't have a problem with murder.
00:28:58.120 I, I lack the language, Megan, to really describe as in a sort of a Cassandra-like position, what may be going on here.
00:29:08.320 We all thought that there was a course correction with the Trump election, and people are, are saying no more
00:29:16.020 with the, the identity-based grievance, which this is related to in, in a certain way.
00:29:22.940 Uh, but we clearly have a very, very, uh, long road to, to tread, to get back to some kind of shared
00:29:31.260 value system.
00:29:32.260 I mean, the irony, you know, you mentioned the Daniel Penny, Jordan Neely verdict, that, that this killer
00:29:38.080 is being described as a hero, and then an actual hero was being, uh, treated as a homicidal
00:29:47.280 criminal and villain.
00:29:49.620 It, we're living in an upside down world, at least to the extent that you live in the
00:29:54.160 elite, uh, bubble ideology.
00:29:57.700 I have a lot for you on Daniel Penny today, which I will do next, but you're exactly right.
00:30:03.080 I mean, I think the Trump election was a declaration that the normies are with us.
00:30:08.940 We've reclaimed the normies who were leftist adjacent, you know, open-minded to self-flagellation
00:30:16.740 as required by BLM and the trans activists, like, okay, if that's what I need to do to
00:30:21.580 be a good person, I'm open-minded, I'm listening.
00:30:24.260 And now, like, they've just been completely rejiggered to normalcy.
00:30:28.380 Wait a minute, you people are the loons.
00:30:30.040 We're not doing that.
00:30:31.220 We're not opening the border.
00:30:32.800 I'm going back with a side of reason.
00:30:34.780 I think they're back with us, but it doesn't mean the loons went away.
00:30:38.020 They're still a part of the Democrat Party, and they're vocal, and they're not giving one
00:30:42.240 inch.
00:30:42.920 Taylor Lorenz is one example of that, but they're all over CNN and MSNBC in the wake
00:30:48.540 of Penny, which is the other big story today, saying all the things you'd expect them to
00:30:53.500 say about how we've normalized vigilantism.
00:30:57.140 The same people, they see him as, we're celebrating a vigilante in the case of Penny, but on the
00:31:05.140 CEO, Brian Thompson, you've got some of those same people saying, right on, you know, the
00:31:08.780 guy had some good points.
00:31:11.340 I don't know.
00:31:13.520 I hope that there's more people like Piers Morgan out there in the mainstream media that
00:31:18.480 are distancing themselves from these views, because if they're not, you're allowing it
00:31:22.880 to stay out there unrebutted.
00:31:25.160 And it's, you know, I think Trump is under constant threat of another assassination to the
00:31:32.200 extent that you whip people up.
00:31:33.580 And of course, let's be fair, you know, the left probably thinks that the right's rhetoric
00:31:39.300 is just as unhinged and just as dangerous, just as apocryphal and unduly Manichaean that
00:31:47.020 could give rise to right-wing kooks.
00:31:49.100 And, you know, there's always a risk about directly linking rhetoric to action.
00:31:57.060 There should be a very, very wide berth for politically extreme rhetoric.
00:32:02.180 As long as you're not calling for violence, it's not clear that anybody that embraces a
00:32:08.420 certain kind of discourse should be held responsible for somebody who acts out in the name of that
00:32:13.580 discourse.
00:32:15.280 So, you know, both sides view the other as engaged in completely unhinged rhetoric.
00:32:25.440 Nevertheless, I don't think there's anything comparable.
00:32:29.980 I mean, maybe there is.
00:32:31.000 Maybe there's some right-wing kooks that are justifying in advance using violence against
00:32:38.080 people you disagree with, but, you know, we've seen the young people have completely lost
00:32:47.160 understanding of the First Amendment.
00:32:49.380 They do not understand fundamental principles of discourse, of the free market of ideas, that
00:32:55.340 the best way to counter ideas that you disagree with is to argue against them.
00:33:01.840 You don't silence people.
00:33:03.460 You don't arrogate to yourself the power of censorship.
00:33:08.180 So that's bad enough that we've lost sight of that fundamental principle of democracy, a
00:33:14.140 principle that has given power to the marginalized throughout the ages.
00:33:18.260 You have Frederick Douglass saying the thing that tyrants fear most is freedom of the press
00:33:24.120 because it allows those who oppose slavery to throw off their chains.
00:33:29.260 Now you have the left opposing the freedom of the press, but it's even worse than that.
00:33:36.060 It's even worse.
00:33:37.260 Now you have the left saying, thou shalt kill people who you think are denying services because
00:33:44.860 you have a certain view of health insurance.
00:33:47.920 You know, this is a principle that is going to lead to a complete civil war.
00:33:54.180 Or there's many health insurance executives out there, as Piers Morgan said, should they
00:33:59.940 all be killed?
00:34:01.020 Follow the principle and the answer is yes.
00:34:03.480 And then you move on to oil executives.
00:34:07.540 Wall Street.
00:34:09.060 Absolutely.
00:34:09.920 Although, you know, Wall Street is, it's weird.
00:34:12.580 It's in sort of a transition mode because Wall Street is, of course, also very left.
00:34:16.700 So, you know, we get to rail against capitalism except when we're drawing on billions to support
00:34:23.420 our left-wing campaigns.
00:34:24.960 So, but yeah.
00:34:25.920 But it is interesting.
00:34:26.940 I mean, like, and then you move on, of course, to politicians where it's like, and certainly
00:34:31.620 nobody's advocating this.
00:34:32.740 I'm just saying that if you want to talk about a politician who's really had a massive effect
00:34:36.540 on health care, the first person to come to mind would be Barack Obama.
00:34:39.940 If you like your plan, you can keep your plan.
00:34:41.900 If you like your doctor, you can keep your law, your doctor, which was a lie.
00:34:45.040 And his Obamacare plan led to the loss of individual relationships between a patient and his doctor
00:34:52.080 over and over and over again, a patient and her plan over and over and over.
00:34:56.260 So if we're greenlighting, we're now greenlighting violence against public figures who affect
00:35:02.700 our health care.
00:35:04.040 How do they reconcile that?
00:35:05.620 I mean, how is it not a call for multiple assassinations?
00:35:08.780 It's just so such insanity.
00:35:11.060 And that's why I refuse to even have the discussion.
00:35:12.940 I refuse to have the discussion about the state of modern insurance care in America right
00:35:17.920 now.
00:35:18.400 Maybe at some point we'll discuss it, but certainly not in response to this lunatic who
00:35:22.500 is being covered like this.
00:35:23.800 Heather, just to give you one other example, would you look at CNN talking about this murderer,
00:35:29.940 this suspected murderer?
00:35:31.500 Watch this.
00:35:31.900 The reaction online is also just such a reinforcement of how much aesthetics, attractiveness, I
00:35:39.880 mean, like the shallowness of the American people.
00:35:43.460 The American people who are online, we'll say, is very much on display here.
00:35:47.300 Part of, yes, there's absolutely a bubbling anger about the inequity in the country writ
00:35:52.400 large and in the health care system, no question.
00:35:54.100 But so much of the clips we were watching at the top of this segment are driven by the fact
00:35:58.280 that this is an attractive person.
00:36:00.300 We've got to drop the banner to show why.
00:36:02.180 And it is deeply troubling that we are celebrating this person who's committed cold-blooded murder
00:36:08.500 because, you know, he clearly went to the gym.
00:36:12.060 You know, one take.
00:36:12.900 Okay, so what happened in that clip for the listening audience is that Casey Hunt, the
00:36:17.600 anchor, chimes in.
00:36:19.660 We've got to drop the banner to show them why.
00:36:21.980 Like, show him his abs.
00:36:23.960 There's something incredibly crass, sophomoric, simple about the discussions these people are
00:36:31.160 having around this man who gunned down a fellow American.
00:36:34.300 We haven't seen an open assassination attempt like this in a long time, Heather.
00:36:39.420 And the seriousness is just missing.
00:36:43.240 Again, part of me rebels against us even having this conversation, Megan.
00:36:47.980 We should not be having to persuade other people that you don't get to kill a corporate
00:36:54.440 executive because you disagree with his policies.
00:36:57.100 Why are we drawn into this?
00:36:58.700 But if we didn't have it, I guess they'd go unchallenged.
00:37:01.420 But, you know, one wonders again and again, what common ground do we have now with people
00:37:11.200 on the progressive left and even liberals?
00:37:15.120 If you can't even agree, I used to think that, well, there's no common ground because
00:37:20.300 we can't even agree that chromosomes determine one's biological sex.
00:37:26.460 We have made this enormous progress in understanding genetics.
00:37:32.420 We should be celebrating that.
00:37:34.220 We have cracked the genetic code.
00:37:37.020 This is one of the greatest feats of human understanding.
00:37:40.780 And now we're throwing that all out in favor of this completely politicized gender theory
00:37:46.940 view that, in fact, sex is something assigned at birth, not not written into every single
00:37:53.500 cell in our body and can be changed at will by people that decide they hate the patriarchy.
00:37:59.280 I used to think if we can't agree about that, it's hopeless.
00:38:02.500 But now it turns out it's it's even worse than that.
00:38:06.080 The fundamental law that you cannot kill, you shall not commit murder.
00:38:10.080 We can't even agree on that.
00:38:11.620 So what do we do?
00:38:13.480 I mean, what?
00:38:14.260 No, we have to forge on without them.
00:38:15.900 These are not people we can we can reason with.
00:38:18.160 We just have to defeat them and forge on without them.
00:38:20.980 I do want to ask you just that you're not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, but it is
00:38:25.660 bizarre, Heather, that this guy was valedictorian of this Tony boys school in Maryland, went on
00:38:31.580 to the University of Pennsylvania where he got a B.A. and an M.A. in computer science, engineering
00:38:37.840 and math, I think was his minor, goes on to work for some tech companies, though I will say
00:38:43.780 the employment history started to get a little sketchy.
00:38:46.280 They say he's worked.
00:38:47.040 He worked for 10 different companies in the past 10 years.
00:38:50.000 Now, that would have been six when he was 16 to 26.
00:38:52.660 But it's not like he found a great job and just kept it upon graduating from UPenn.
00:38:56.880 And I'll just show you a little bit from his high school graduation speech as valedictorian.
00:39:01.820 He wasn't particularly articulate or impressive, I will admit, but he seemed normal.
00:39:08.240 He seemed normal.
00:39:09.440 And this is just, you know, eight years ago.
00:39:12.580 Listen to this.
00:39:13.540 It's SOT 12.
00:39:14.060 Just like we've done these past few years, we'll be exploring the unknown, whether that
00:39:20.160 be attending colleges across the country, traveling the world during gap years, or fulfilling military
00:39:25.080 service in foreign countries.
00:39:27.940 As we embrace the new, however, we won't forget the old.
00:39:31.480 Our friendships, values, and memories from Gilman will always stay with us.
00:39:34.980 So, to the class of 2016, a kind of class that only comes around once every 50 years.
00:39:43.840 It's been an incredible journey, and I simply can't imagine the last few years with any other
00:39:48.120 group of guys.
00:39:50.660 All the advantages, education, wealth, apparently a nice family that was looking for him when
00:39:59.280 he went missing at age 26, couldn't find him, was doing its best to try to retrieve him,
00:40:02.960 lots of friends, you know, according to them, good looks.
00:40:07.680 It's just, it's very strange what would make him go from that to, I'll listen, I'll let
00:40:12.980 you hear it from John Miller, who's an intel analyst now on CNN.
00:40:17.880 He's the chief law enforcement and intel analyst, talking about what was in his manifesto that
00:40:22.640 the police found on his person when they arrested him, SOC 10.
00:40:25.540 Well, he was railing against the healthcare industry, which, of course, fits into the scenario
00:40:32.620 here.
00:40:33.700 He talks about how these parasites had it coming.
00:40:38.260 He starts off basically saying, I don't want to cause any trauma, but it had to be done.
00:40:49.480 So, a second page really kind of goes into problems with the health industry.
00:40:56.140 He raises the question, you know, why do we have the most expensive healthcare in the
00:41:00.120 world, but we're 42, rated 42 in life expectancy around the world.
00:41:05.960 It was talking about the healthcare industry and the need for violence.
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00:42:11.580 We need to talk about Caitlin Clark.
00:42:18.260 Yep.
00:42:19.120 So Caitlin Clark of Iowa, but now playing for Indiana in the WNBA, gets honored in time as
00:42:28.500 the athlete of the year.
00:42:29.880 I don't know.
00:42:31.420 I guess they need a lot of covers or something.
00:42:32.940 I mean, whatever.
00:42:33.400 I get that.
00:42:33.820 They just want people who are going to sell their shitty magazine.
00:42:36.220 So she gets selected as athlete of the year.
00:42:40.620 And what does Caitlin Clark do?
00:42:42.780 Like this woman who's a superstar, she's the Michael Jordan of the WNBA.
00:42:47.500 And she's become a phenom in part because the players of the WNBA can't fucking stand her.
00:42:57.100 Why?
00:42:57.780 Because she's white.
00:42:59.520 It's abject, absolute racism.
00:43:02.180 It's total racism.
00:43:04.500 And one of the things that's been admirable about Caitlin is she just continues to play
00:43:09.460 her game and put points on the board.
00:43:11.760 And she does very well.
00:43:12.940 And she wins games, games, and she puts butts in the seats and she sells tickets and she gets
00:43:17.080 people tuning in on television.
00:43:18.500 And all really we want to hear from anybody about this is thank you.
00:43:22.300 Thank you to Caitlin Clark for making our league relevant and so on.
00:43:25.980 But instead, she's been bullied repeatedly by the players in this league.
00:43:29.880 She's been assaulted physically.
00:43:32.500 She's been scratched in the eye.
00:43:34.900 And I mean, we've all this is on camera.
00:43:37.160 We've covered it repeatedly on the show.
00:43:38.920 So she gets this honor.
00:43:42.200 And all she has to do is continue staying above it.
00:43:45.420 Thank you.
00:43:46.040 I'm grateful.
00:43:47.080 Love being in the WNBA.
00:43:48.240 And I love my colleagues who I play with, my teammates.
00:43:51.260 That's it.
00:43:52.520 Instead, she decides to go racial.
00:43:56.080 And what she says is she feels the need to acknowledge her white privilege.
00:44:02.180 Basically, she's sorry she's white.
00:44:04.640 She feels really bad about it, though.
00:44:07.380 So you should give her a pass.
00:44:09.580 And then she makes a point of saying the ones we really need to be celebrating are the black women on whose backs this league was built, which I have to tell you is so condescending.
00:44:22.560 It really is.
00:44:23.560 It's true that most of these black women have been bullying her and want her to understand it's their league.
00:44:28.940 Hello, you don't own the league.
00:44:30.760 Blacks don't own the league just like whites don't own tennis or golf.
00:44:35.160 Nobody owns the league.
00:44:36.900 This is America.
00:44:37.560 Anybody can play if they're good enough.
00:44:40.320 But they want her on the knee.
00:44:42.380 You'll bend the knee and you'll apologize for being white.
00:44:44.780 And you will suck up to the black women who built this league before you or you will be beaten.
00:44:50.480 You will be assaulted and you will be bullied with no friends.
00:44:53.820 So she does it.
00:44:54.940 She finally did it.
00:44:56.020 She bent the knee, self-flagellated over white privilege and look at look at the black women in this league.
00:45:02.140 And I have to tell you, if I were a black woman in that league, I think I'd say, screw you, because don't treat me like I am the ugly stepsister and you are Cinderella.
00:45:12.540 And no prince is going to look at me unless Cinderella says, oh, give her a little time.
00:45:17.600 Oh, put her in the spotlight for a moment.
00:45:20.220 I would be offended, genuinely offended by her.
00:45:23.340 Like, look over there.
00:45:24.420 Look at them.
00:45:25.040 They're not white.
00:45:26.660 They did a lot, too.
00:45:28.100 And here's the other thing.
00:45:29.220 It's totally insincere.
00:45:30.700 And here's how you know it's totally insincere.
00:45:32.360 Because if Caitlin Clark really felt uncomfortable in the spotlight as the newbie who's white, who's, you know, because white people didn't build the league, build the league, she wouldn't have said yes to being Time Magazine's athlete of the year.
00:45:45.900 So either walk the walk or don't.
00:45:48.700 But what you're doing here is trying to have it both ways.
00:45:51.460 You're too cute by half and you've managed to piss off your fan base.
00:45:56.520 Go ahead and look at my Twitter feed and the comments under my tweet on this.
00:46:00.780 She's lost thousands of fans, maybe more as a result of this.
00:46:05.080 And you will never appease the race bullies in the WNBA, ever.
00:46:10.800 Because you're too popular, you're too talented, and too white.
00:46:16.840 That's it.
00:46:17.300 Well, I think you completely nailed it.
00:46:20.340 As soon as I saw that statement from her, I was incensed.
00:46:24.980 Because it was only a couple days earlier I'd been telling Duncan, Duncan's from Indiana.
00:46:28.500 I was like, wow, you know, I see all these clips of this player you've got.
00:46:32.060 She's amazing.
00:46:32.820 She's done great.
00:46:33.380 And I've been following during the season her getting bullied by all these other players
00:46:36.920 who are jealous of her, who are jealous of her success.
00:46:39.340 And meanwhile, these statistics would come out where all the road games where she plays
00:46:43.720 sell out.
00:46:44.400 They're the best-selling games of the season is when she comes to town.
00:46:47.620 And for her to turn around and bend the knee to these people who've been bullying her,
00:46:52.320 like you said, it's never going to be enough.
00:46:54.640 It's not just her trying to get these people to like her who've been mean to her.
00:46:59.960 It's her complete betrayal of her fan base.
00:47:02.080 People, like for years and years, men have been complaining that ESPN doesn't cover sports.
00:47:07.380 They cover critical race theory, and they're sick of it.
00:47:09.840 People watch sports for escapism, to see competition.
00:47:14.140 Caitlin Clark was an inspiration to so many of my friends' daughters.
00:47:16.740 And for her to go out and say something like this, to try to, like you said, being like,
00:47:21.260 oh, no, no, no, no.
00:47:22.560 You know, black players need me as a white savior to bring them and highlight them.
00:47:27.100 This racist equity system, all it does is divide Americans.
00:47:30.920 And the result of this election, in large part, was Americans saying, we're tired of that.
00:47:35.380 We've had enough of that.
00:47:36.600 And Caitlin Clark's going right back to that.
00:47:38.740 And DEI is a nonsense thing.
00:47:42.620 But can you think of any profession in which it's more nonsense than athletic competition,
00:47:48.220 in which there are statistics and points scored?
00:47:50.580 It's such a preposterous thing to claim somebody has privilege in a competition of athletics.
00:47:56.780 And not to mention the fact that, like, you would never say something like that about the NBA,
00:48:01.260 you know, where there are hundreds of black superstars paid millions and millions of dollars.
00:48:06.140 And, oh, by the way, that NBA subsidizes the entire WNBA.
00:48:09.920 Yeah, right.
00:48:10.540 So, and she's walking around talking about her white privilege.
00:48:13.500 It's insane.
00:48:14.300 Well, here's the other thing, Duncan.
00:48:15.520 Here's the other question.
00:48:17.080 I don't remember Serena Williams apologizing for her blackness in tennis, which had been
00:48:23.080 dominated mostly by whites.
00:48:24.660 I don't remember Tiger Woods apologizing for his blackness in the, you know, whatever,
00:48:31.640 PGA, which was dominated by whites.
00:48:34.020 No one would even think of such a thing.
00:48:35.580 They celebrated this new figure in sports who maybe didn't look like all the other figures
00:48:41.380 they knew.
00:48:41.880 They thought it was great.
00:48:42.800 He was to be celebrated with normal people have responded to Caitlin.
00:48:46.800 What they all had in common is that they fundamentally changed the sport and they brought casual fans
00:48:51.820 into the sport to become lifelong fans of the sport.
00:48:54.740 It didn't matter what the color of their skin was.
00:48:56.900 That's what Tiger Woods did to golf.
00:48:58.560 That's what Caitlin Clark did to the WNBA.
00:49:01.100 That's the sort of excellence that should be celebrated.
00:49:03.480 And I, it's so weird to me that we had that entire ideology fail at the battle box, battle
00:49:08.980 box, uh, a few weeks ago.
00:49:11.520 And now she's like the last one to get the memo.
00:49:13.900 It's crazy.
00:49:14.780 Yeah.
00:49:15.100 I, you know, imagine a world's just, we got to keep this going.
00:49:19.300 Cause it's like, I'm so fired up.
00:49:20.360 But imagine a world in which Serena and Venus take over tennis.
00:49:23.640 They crush and the, and the thought pieces that are being written are, or, or the comments
00:49:28.520 that they are required to say are, I just want to acknowledge that tennis was built on
00:49:34.300 the back of white people like Chrissy Everett and Martina Navarrola and Billy G King.
00:49:40.720 And, you know, I, I have black privilege in being here because of my, whatever, however
00:49:46.200 she wants to attribute that it wasn't explained by Caitlin either.
00:49:48.700 Exactly how her white privilege got her some more attention in the league.
00:49:53.180 That's the theory by some racist that the only reason we want to watch Caitlin is because
00:49:57.300 she's white and we can't stand watching the blacks, but we'll watch the white, which is
00:50:02.080 absurd.
00:50:02.740 She's by far the best.
00:50:04.620 The stats prove it.
00:50:05.700 That's why she's so popular.
00:50:07.120 But in what world would we ever be comfortable saying to these black superstars, you better
00:50:12.060 acknowledge the backs on whose, you know, bodies tennis and golf and whatever white sport
00:50:18.380 you can think of were, was built.
00:50:20.240 I mean, it's an absurdity.
00:50:21.280 It's racist on its face.
00:50:23.400 Yeah.
00:50:24.020 And you know, the, the thing that really strikes me, if you think about time magazine, it's
00:50:27.900 not, they don't care about sports.
00:50:29.440 It's a religious track for the left-wing lunacy in this country.
00:50:32.520 And what they care about is driving their politics forward.
00:50:35.880 There are thousands of athletes who have had great years that they could highlight if they
00:50:40.560 cared about highlighting a top athlete.
00:50:43.080 Caitlin Clark is one of them, but this story and naming her really strikes me.
00:50:48.560 Is something that was negotiated between her PR agent and time magazine, where the agreement
00:50:53.960 was, she would say what the left wanted to hear.
00:50:57.500 And in exchange, she's named athlete.
00:50:59.620 Well, this is the, this is part of the sports culture and has been here for the last five
00:51:03.320 or six years, that these are the kinds of things that you get into when you do these
00:51:06.140 sort of quote unquote mainstream pieces.
00:51:08.160 But I think there's something that's much larger than all of this.
00:51:11.320 And one of the reasons we, why we're so irritated about it is this election, you saw huge
00:51:16.440 participation and definitive in how they came down amongst Gen X and older millennials.
00:51:22.320 And one of the big pieces of that, in my view, is that we all kind of grew up in a social
00:51:31.760 atmosphere where you just didn't think of people in white buckets and black buckets.
00:51:36.560 And like, all my heroes were young black athletes.
00:51:40.340 And I never thought about that.
00:51:41.860 Yeah.
00:51:41.980 When I watched Family Matters, it wasn't like, oh, I'm watching the black sitcom.
00:51:45.880 Yeah.
00:51:46.100 You know, like you never thought about that as a kid.
00:51:48.480 Like the Cosby show.
00:51:49.280 Cosby show.
00:51:50.040 You're like, yeah, you weren't like, oh man, well this, let's watch the black show tonight.
00:51:53.860 Like it just never had, that's not how we grew up.
00:51:56.180 And somehow time over the last 10 years, all of that changed.
00:52:00.280 And it took people a while to try to figure out how and why and what they could do about it.
00:52:05.780 In this election, they finally said, fuck you.
00:52:08.980 We are not doing this anymore.
00:52:10.800 We are not going to discriminate people.
00:52:13.000 We are not going to evaluate their character or their worth based on their skin color.
00:52:17.620 We're not doing any of that anymore.
00:52:19.100 And the extent that the DEI and all of those people that want to push that agenda are doing that to us, we're going to throw your asses out.
00:52:26.340 And that's exactly what they did.
00:52:27.700 And so now you get the sports agents and all this stuff that apparently didn't get the memo.
00:52:32.200 And my bet is, Megan, I think you're talking about like a 22-year-old young woman who's sort of thrust into this cultural icon.
00:52:40.480 I bet five years from now, she's going to wish she had that back.
00:52:43.660 And I don't think that she's a bad.
00:52:46.600 I mean, right now, what we know about Cailin Clark is she's reportedly dating some very, very woke leftist.
00:52:52.940 But what we know about her is she liked Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris.
00:52:58.880 So she seems to be telegraphing something about her politics, even though she doesn't often tweet or post about politics.
00:53:05.700 It seems pretty clear she was in that lane hoping Kamala Harris got elected.
00:53:10.040 Though when asked about it, she tried to play it off as she was just, you know, really in favor of people informing themselves about the issues and making sure they vote.
00:53:18.640 OK, sure.
00:53:19.300 There isn't a Trump voter in the world that would have liked the Taylor Swift endorsement of Kamala Harris and Tim Walsh.
00:53:26.880 So she definitely is a Democrat and probably a leftist who believes this crap.
00:53:32.640 I have to think she believes in this crap.
00:53:34.300 This is the first real window we are getting into the way she thinks.
00:53:39.400 And I couldn't care less if she's a Democrat.
00:53:41.280 As I've said many times, you know, my the people in my family are Democrats.
00:53:45.160 A lot of people I love are Democrats.
00:53:46.780 It's not about that.
00:53:47.740 It's about this sick ideology and the fact that she she's she bent both knees.
00:53:54.200 She got down on both knees and begged for forgiveness for her whiteness and then was condescending to the black women in the league while she did it.
00:54:03.200 It was an utter fail.
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