The Megyn Kelly Show - Beyonce's Feminism and Insecurity, and Young Women Finding Good Men, with Mary Katharine Ham and Bridget Phetasy

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.240 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show. We have such a fun show for

00:00:16.940 you today. We're going to have a good time on this Friday with two super smart, funny ladies.

00:00:22.320 From culture to health to fashion, hint, cracks are back. Did you know that? There's a little

00:00:27.040 bit of everything for everyone. Here to discuss, Mary Catherine Hamm, host of Getting Hammered,

00:00:32.180 and author of the book End of Discussion, and Bridget Phetasy, comedian and host of the podcast

00:00:37.580 Walk-Ins Welcome and Dumpster Fire. Ladies, welcome back to the show. Thank you very much.

00:00:45.140 Thanks for having us. There's such goodness to go through. I don't even know where to begin. So I'm

00:00:50.080 going to start with the earthquake. Did you guys feel the earthquake? Anybody feel it? Not here.

00:00:54.920 I was actually driving. MK, are you down in the mid-Atlantic? Are you down by DC?

00:01:00.000 Yeah. So I'm actually in Pennsylvania today, so I probably should have felt it, but I was driving.

00:01:04.440 So you don't usually feel it in that situation. Where are you, Bridget?

00:01:08.580 I'm in Texas, so we're getting ready for the eclipse. That's right. You didn't. All right,

00:01:12.620 right. Okay. So here in Connecticut, I felt it. And I know people in California are like,

00:01:17.760 shut up. They get it all the time. They get it at a much bigger, you know, magnitudes. But for us in

00:01:22.600 the Northeast, it's very rare. The last and maybe only other earthquake I've felt, maybe

00:01:27.120 one when I was a kid in New York, but I was out in Montana. So it's like, you know, it's rare to

00:01:33.240 happen in the Northeast. And I was sitting there getting ready in our little studio cottage. And,

00:01:37.460 you know, it started shaking. The house started shaking, this little cottage. And it's not sturdy.

00:01:42.020 I mean, it's small. And I was like, this thing could come down, I guess. I'm not sure. First,

00:01:46.060 you're thinking it's like a huge semi that went by. And then all my years in New York are like,

00:01:50.600 is that the number six train going? But no, wait, there's no subway near me.

00:01:54.340 And then you're like, this actually might be an earthquake. What in the, and sure enough,

00:01:58.660 it was, it was, I think a 4.7 magnitude earthquake. Very fun for us Northeasterners,

00:02:04.040 though. I hope everybody's okay. Okay. Did that CERN start up again? The CERN tank,

00:02:09.000 the like collider that they have, did that start again? What's that? It's like where they collide,

00:02:15.480 all the atoms. And I think they're starting it up again. So look, we're dealing with an

00:02:22.120 earthquake and an eclipse. I can't deal with a collider as well. It's too much.

00:02:26.340 It is. It's pretty, it's pretty biblical. I'm going to start with a touch of hard news. It's

00:02:30.780 not hard, but it's like kind of interesting. The rock appears to regret his endorsement of Joe Biden

00:02:38.400 back in 2020. I can't believe this happened. I was shocked, right? I was like, could it be,

00:02:43.180 could he actually have spoken out in this way? He did. He spoke with one of my favorite people

00:02:47.780 over at Fox, Will Kane. And listen to what he said. Am I happy with the state of America right

00:02:53.220 now? Well, that answer is no. Do I believe we're going to get better? I believe in that. I'm an

00:02:57.500 optimistic guy and I believe we can get better. The endorsement that I made years ago with Biden

00:03:04.920 was one I thought was the best decision for me at that time. And I thought back then when we talk

00:03:10.060 about, hey, you know, I'm in this position where I have some influence and it's my job

00:03:17.800 then. I felt like that then. It's my job now to exercise my influence and share with this.

00:03:24.840 This is who I'm going to endorse. Am I going to do that again this year? That answer is no.

00:03:28.900 Didn't realize it then. I just thought, hey, our country feels like there's a lot of unrest.

00:03:34.260 It feels like I would like things to calm down. Maybe we need a change. This is what I'm going

00:03:40.640 to do. And this is who I'm going to endorse. Months and months and months, I started to realize

00:03:45.060 like, oh, man, that caused an incredible amount of division in our country. So I realize now going

00:03:51.560 into this election, I'm not going to do that. I wouldn't do that because my goal is to bring

00:03:54.820 our country together. I do trust the American people and I trust that whoever they vote for,

00:04:00.000 that's going to be my president. And that's who I'm going to support a hundred percent.

00:04:05.840 So interesting. What do you make of MK? Have you seen how much it costs to buy protein

00:04:12.560 at this point and how much the rock has to consume? Okay. So even with the paychecks he's

00:04:19.820 taken home, it's going to be a hit, right? Look, I think that the rock, despite the size of his arms

00:04:25.740 is like normie adjacent, he is a person who seems sort of like a red blooded American who kind of

00:04:31.220 gets normal things. And I think the feeling that he's feeling is, well, I was pitched normalcy and

00:04:37.660 I endorsed this guy who I thought would be that person. And I'm in the gym and I'm paying triple

00:04:43.220 for my protein and it's not feeling like I wanted it to feel. And I imagine it feels worse for other

00:04:47.540 people. So I think it's, it's a, uh, an unrealized promise of normalcy and feeling better, uh, that

00:04:54.660 he's tuning into there. It's so rare that you have one of these so-called elites, Bridget, you know,

00:05:01.100 in his own way, he's an elite given the huge amount of money he's earned and what a huge star he is in

00:05:07.600 the circles of power that he likely travels in, in terms of getting movies made and so on to have

00:05:13.100 them come out and say something like this, because make no mistake about it, there will be blowback to

00:05:16.740 the rock in those circles for even going this far. Yeah. It sounds a little bit like he's been

00:05:23.060 red pilled, you know, somewhat. He's not outright saying it. It does sound like a man who, so he's

00:05:30.180 not saying he will, is he saying he won't endorse anybody in this coming election? He's just going

00:05:35.900 to trust the American people, but, and that he regrets having endorsed the last time around that

00:05:41.760 it caused more division to come out in favor. So he's not saying kind of the quiet part, which is

00:05:47.260 that he's okay with Trump or okay with people who vote for Trump, which is, you can't say that in

00:05:54.220 Hollywood, even that, like you said, Megan, it's, but I think his audience is more normie. So he's also

00:06:01.080 responding to the fact that there just is a common sense coalition of people who really don't feel

00:06:08.300 represented by mostly anyone. And, and the rock is very, he's kind of right over the target.

00:06:17.020 It's amazing because like, he's had it, he's feeling what so many people are feeling, which is

00:06:21.920 the country's in trouble. And maybe we do need, maybe he likes RFKJ. We don't know if it's Trump,

00:06:26.780 but it's certainly sounds like it's not going to be Biden this time around. And I was thinking MK,

00:06:31.780 because we, you know, the Biden administration is like begging Taylor Swift for an endorsement.

00:06:37.860 So how do you like those? I like, what if the rock actually does signal more that he's on the

00:06:42.340 other team he's on, you know, either Trump and then you got Taylor versus the rock going. Now that's,

00:06:48.400 that's a contest we can get behind. That's a very serious, honestly, I might prefer that one at the

00:06:53.620 ballot box, but I think, I think what he's communicating is something that a lot of regular

00:06:57.800 voters feel, which is that, look, maybe they're not in love with the Trump choice, but they

00:07:02.760 understand why people would make it because they're looking at what happened under Biden.

00:07:07.440 That is a very normal sentiment. And there are plenty of places in our elite circles where they

00:07:12.760 act like that's some giant puzzle. It's not a giant puzzle. I was listening to a, to a Chuck Todd

00:07:17.180 segment with some analysts today, and they were just scratching their heads, just noodling over like,

00:07:22.440 why aren't the American people understanding how amazing everything is and all these accomplishments?

00:07:26.680 It's like, maybe it's not messaging it correctly. Not one person thinks maybe it's because they're

00:07:32.380 hurting. Maybe it's because these solutions didn't help. Uh, but yes, uh, the other thing I was going

00:07:37.940 to say is this big, this big celebrity fundraiser that they did, um, up in, uh, up in New York where

00:07:43.080 they, they made a bunch of money, but it felt very different from the Obama years, right? It didn't,

00:07:48.420 it felt lackluster. I looked at the, uh, comments on a Vogue Instagram post about it. And if you're,

00:07:54.860 if your Vogue Instagram post has all negative comments about a gathering of Obama, Clinton

00:07:59.980 and Biden, uh, it's not good for you. It's not good for you. And they're coming from left and right.

00:08:06.060 Yeah. Wow. What were they saying? Uh, well, from the left, it was genocide, genocide, genocide from

00:08:11.040 the right, or you haven't done anything for me. And from the right, it was like, Hey, maybe check on

00:08:15.640 the border guys, since there's three of you presidents together, um, and economy stuff.

00:08:19.520 But I just think maybe do the 20 minute drive to officer Dillard's wake. How about that? You know,

00:08:24.360 that's an option. Pay your respects to this. And by the way, something the rock would understand

00:08:29.340 is, is visiting that, uh, that wake. Exactly. Right. All right. So, um, on the subject of

00:08:36.240 presidential politics, the likely next president, Kamala Harris, uh, if Joe Biden gets reelected anyway,

00:08:43.340 has spoken out, she's very interested in NCAA basketball. Do you guys have brackets going?

00:08:52.320 I'm superstitious. So I don't usually do a bracket, but I'm rooting for this,

00:08:55.660 the, the Wolfpack all the way through. Okay. I've got Yukon winning the whole thing and I'm

00:09:01.000 looking good. They won the whole thing last year, but I only picked Yukon because my system is as

00:09:07.720 between any two teams, whether it's at the beginning or going into the final four, you fill out those

00:09:11.300 brackets. I pick the team that I have a connection to either geographically or emotionally. And if I

00:09:18.040 have no connection to either of the team, I just go with whatever the ranking is, whoever's, whoever's

00:09:21.700 better. And I have to say my final four, I do well in this system every year. I beat most of the men

00:09:26.340 I know who are neck deep in basketball. It works. I'll get back to you on how this year goes, but

00:09:31.140 Kamala Harris, um, it's possible that she's even less connected to the basketball world than I am

00:09:36.760 because she came out trying to have a she woman moment, uh, you know, feminist hero moment and

00:09:44.780 weighed in on NCAA women's basketball and the tournament and made the following untrue claim

00:09:53.160 speaking with spectrum news. Okay. She reads, she writes, says, do you know, okay. A bit of a history

00:09:59.920 lesson. Do you know, we don't have this on tape, do we? Oh yeah, we do have it on tape. Cause it was a

00:10:03.940 written interview, but we've got the actual shot. Listen, it's not one. Do you know, okay. A bit

00:10:09.340 of a history lesson. Do you know that women were not, the women's teams were not allowed to have

00:10:15.540 brackets until 2022? Think about that. And what that talk about progress, you know, better late

00:10:22.880 than never, but progress and what that has done, because of course, when, you know, I had a bracket,

00:10:27.460 it's not broken completely, but I won't talk about my bracket, but you know what, just how we

00:10:33.640 love, we love March Madness. And even just now allowing the women to have brackets and what

00:10:39.820 that does to encourage people to talk more about the women's teams, to watch them. Now they're being

00:10:45.440 covered, you know, and, and this is the reality. People used to say, oh, women's sports, who's

00:10:51.020 interested? Well, if you can't see it, you won't be. But when you see it, you realize, oh.

00:10:56.820 Hmm. I'm so glad we got to hear that. First of all, why is she talking with her hands up here?

00:11:05.360 Right? Why, why is she doing this thing with her hands? Like, you know, crocodile hands, right? Like

00:11:10.660 when people won't reach for the bill. It's very strange that she's got the hands up here. But

00:11:14.980 secondly, fact check, the first NCAA women's tournament was in 1982. They had brackets.

00:11:20.420 They had brackets in 82, at least regionally. And then by 1996, they had them that nationally

00:11:28.820 identical to the way the men do. So it had, it wasn't even like in 1996, I was, I had just

00:11:36.220 graduated law school like this a long time ago. It's been a long time since we've had them, but

00:11:41.080 she's got to give us her little lesson with her. It's, you know what it's like? It's like a

00:11:44.700 Violet Beauregard after she blows up into the blueberry, like with a little hands. That's how she talks.

00:11:49.740 It's wild though. Like who's briefing her? Who decided that this was a talking point? Like

00:11:55.940 they, they have to play in petticoats until 1994 and you weren't allowed to have brackets and women

00:12:01.900 couldn't use pins to fill out the brackets. Their husbands had to do it for them in pencil. I mean,

00:12:07.480 it is just completely made up. I mean, I, I, I actually enjoy this more than the days of the

00:12:14.420 gaffes, like Lambeau field, which was John Kerry's, uh, or, uh, Lambert field when he called Lambeau

00:12:19.260 that, um, this is so much more complex and rich stupidity, uh, sports related. It's amazing.

00:12:26.320 So just to add to this, um, Zach Parkinson just tweets out posts on X here's Harris in 2021,

00:12:33.580 a year where women's college basketball supposedly was not allowed to have brackets tweeting about

00:12:40.300 her husband's women's bracket. So maybe it's a memory problem. Maybe she's having some of the

00:12:45.860 same recall problems that her bosses have having, but you know what, what's annoying to me about the

00:12:51.200 clip Bridget is that everything for her has to get turned into a little teachable moment where

00:12:59.460 educator in chief Kamala Harris is going to explain to the rest of us, dumb dumbs, how life used to be

00:13:07.180 and how we can then be unburdened by what has been and her new utopia version of the future in which

00:13:14.460 women are equal. And we finally get brackets, even though we've had them for the past 27 years or

00:13:20.180 however long it's been. And we'll get to another place in which she's done this next, uh, with respect

00:13:24.960 to Beyonce, but I'm kind of tired of her faux feminism, especially given the way Kamala Harris rose

00:13:30.680 to the top out in California, which was under. I'm convinced. Yeah, I'm convinced. I'm convinced

00:13:38.680 that she is just trolling us. Like I, she, it seems like she watched veep and she's just trying to be

00:13:45.100 exactly Julia Louis-Dreyfus's character. I'm how can you be this bad?

00:13:52.080 You're getting a lot of credit. It is amazing though. It's like a glitching AI or something. And

00:13:59.220 one, one of the things that's annoying about modern feminism is that they do this kind of thing where

00:14:03.920 they say like, there's suddenly a new, uh, uh, women's superhero or whatever movie coming out.

00:14:08.500 And they act like there's never been a woman in a superhero movie before, even though you had like,

00:14:14.700 uh, Princess Leia in 1977, right. Who was a real badass, but they just pretend like all of that

00:14:21.020 doesn't exist. And I don't appreciate that as a woman of the eighties, I enjoyed Linda Hamilton.

00:14:25.360 Thank you very much. And her biceps, they were inspiring to me.

00:14:29.260 Sigourney Weaver.

00:14:29.760 To all of us. Well, okay. So enter Beyonce, who is the modern day superhero for untold millions.

00:14:39.760 I gotta be honest. I'm not a big Beyonce follower. I don't have anything against her. I just,

00:14:45.320 it's like, I don't listen to her music, but I do get kind of annoyed at how, whenever she does

00:14:51.200 anything, we have to pretend she's the second coming. It's like, Oh my God, they literally

00:14:56.580 call her queen Bay. It's like, she can do absolutely no wrong. If you criticize her,

00:15:02.080 there's something wrong with you. Well, too bad deal with it. So she's come out now with a country

00:15:08.780 album. And of course these leftists and media whores pretend that no one's ever done country

00:15:15.920 before Beyonce's done it countries, this wonderful new genre that the queen Bay has discovered. Oh my

00:15:21.540 God, this is wonderful. And the reactions to her, her album called cowboy Carter, which just dropped

00:15:29.320 are of course, typically over the top among others who's weighed in on this. Um, Michelle Obama decided

00:15:37.140 to post about this and Kamala Harris saying you have redefined a genre and reclaimed country music's

00:15:46.440 black roots. Why did country need to be redefined? Why, what was wrong with it? That we needed it to

00:15:52.340 be rescued by Beyonce. Right. And that's the same message basically from Michelle Obama, who says,

00:15:58.240 once again, you've helped redefine a music genre and transform our culture. You've transformed it.

00:16:05.940 I'm so proud of you. Cowboy Carter is a reminder that despite everything we've been through to be

00:16:12.700 heard, seen and recognized. I mean, she always finds a way to work how downtrodden she's been

00:16:18.860 into her tweets and posts. We can still dance, sing and be who we are unapologetically. I'm sure it's

00:16:26.780 very hard for Beyonce to be who she is unapologetically with her billions of dollars that

00:16:32.440 she's earned in her husband's husband has earned, despite how crappily this nation has treated her.

00:16:37.520 This album reminds us all that we all have power. There is power in our history, in our joy

00:16:44.900 and in our vote. And of course it goes on to together, we can stand up for what we believe

00:16:50.420 in. We must do that at the ballot box. And as queen Bay says at the end of ya, ya, we need to keep

00:16:56.440 the faith and vote. I just, what is this? Is this feminism? Is this aggrievement? And why is it that

00:17:06.080 queen Bay is being treated like she's the first one to take a little dalliance over into this weird

00:17:12.340 on heretofore unknown field of country music?

00:17:15.680 Yeah. My take on this is like, we don't have to do this guys. We don't have to do it. I like Beyonce

00:17:24.640 fine. I like country music, like some more than others, whether it comes to Beyonce's catalog or

00:17:29.320 country music. Right. Uh, but this thing where we have to be like, it's this, it's compulsory worship

00:17:34.980 of this moment. I don't think we need to do that. And I don't think it has to be this. It could just be

00:17:39.420 like a decent album, but we don't really do that in our culture anymore.

00:17:42.520 We have to make it into something so much bigger. One of the things that jumped out at me in this is

00:17:47.620 like how well she lays out like her PR connections. And when she drops this album, like she has a cover

00:17:54.760 and we're going to talk about it of Jolene by Dolly Parton. She gets Dolly Parton to endorse it on the

00:18:00.520 album. She's Dolly Parton does an intro then publicly. She says something endorsing it. She sings

00:18:06.800 um, Blackbird by Paul McCartney and, or at least uses a piece of it. And she gets Paul McCartney

00:18:13.220 to write out. I'm so happy with Beyonce's version of Blackbird. I think she's done a fab version and

00:18:18.660 would, would urge anyone who has not heard it yet to check it out. Then there's Linda Martell,

00:18:24.560 legendary country artist. What she's doing is beautiful. I'm honored to be a part of it.

00:18:29.360 Then there's Nancy Sinatra because she uses a piece of, um, these boots are made for walking.

00:18:33.780 I love her. This may be the best sample of boots yet. Yes. Nancy, even better than yours. Go ahead

00:18:39.920 and lick the boots a little harder. See what that gets you. And then we get to Jolene, which

00:18:47.140 everybody loves. Who doesn't love Dolly Parton's version of, or I mean, it's her song of Jolene.

00:18:53.520 For those of you who don't know it, uh, I'm sure I'm speaking to like two people. Here's a sample of the OG.

00:19:00.260 Oh, but I can easily understand how you could easily take my man, but you don't know what

00:19:08.200 he means to me. Jolene, Jolene. Jolene, Jolene, Jolene. Oh, I'm begging of you, please don't take my

00:19:22.400 man. Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene. Please don't take him just because you can.

00:19:36.500 Okay. I'm going to talk about and recommend to everybody this Kat Rosenfield piece in Unheard

00:19:42.040 today because she, she nailed exactly my own sort of inner reaction to the, to the new Beyonce take

00:19:48.540 on this. The original Jolene is a story about a woman feeling threatened by another woman who's

00:19:55.360 prettier and more alluring. And she's basically begging her not to steal her man that, you know,

00:20:04.140 she can do it. She flatters her. I know you can, you're so gorgeous. And you've got the,

00:20:08.420 you know, red hair and the green eyes. And I know what you're capable of, but please don't

00:20:14.140 because I love him. And I could never love anybody as much. Then of course, because it's Queen Bay,

00:20:20.700 we have to change it to, if you fucking take my man, I will hurt you, bitch.

00:20:27.340 She actually uses the word bitch in the, in the new version. And it's much more like threatening,

00:20:33.380 which I guess Beyonce and team Bay think is what empowerment looks like for now. The threatened

00:20:40.860 woman is just threatening to an, another woman who she thinks might have designs on her life

00:20:49.000 partner. Here's Beyonce's version. I can easily understand why you're attracted to my man,

00:20:59.340 but you don't want the smoke to shoot your shot with someone else.

00:21:04.820 I love that.

00:21:06.420 Jolene, Jolene, Jolene, Jolene. I'm warning you woman, find you your own man.

00:21:15.820 Okay. So it's got a lot of that in there. And I have to say, I don't find this empowering at all.

00:21:23.800 And I think to Kat Rosenfield's point, there's something strange about what's happening with

00:21:31.360 modern day, the modern day definition of what a strong woman is. Like you can't have any

00:21:36.220 vulnerabilities or insecurities. You have to be this bad-ass bitch who's like threatening, like,

00:21:41.940 fucking a, you know, you mess with my man. I'm it's to me, it's a, it's a turnoff. And actually

00:21:48.220 Bridget, what Kat says, and I totally agree with this. She says, paradoxically, this reveals how

00:21:54.480 disempowered and insecure Beyonce is in this messaging. If she's a queen, as the song shit says,

00:22:01.460 and has no doubts about her man's devotion, then why is she threatening to throw hands at any woman

00:22:06.760 who looks at him sideways? And I was thinking the same thing myself. The true power move

00:22:13.020 is not to worry and not to have to worry. But Beyonce couldn't quite get there.

00:22:21.120 Well, it bugs me about both these versions is they really never take, like, hold the man to

00:22:25.720 any account. Right.

00:22:27.600 They're never really saying anything about the man or to the man. But I also, I find it

00:22:34.040 interesting, even if I don't agree that it's necessarily the most empowering, it seems like

00:22:38.860 it's just a different variation of female insecurity that's kind of shapeshifted over time.

00:22:47.080 Dolly Parton came from a different time. It was a more modest and subdued time. And Beyonce is of the

00:22:55.020 Yas Queen feminism. And I think that that kind of in your face version is it's still just female

00:23:03.880 insecurity. I've definitely seen that in my life. I've I've been on the other side of it. And I think

00:23:11.720 there's parts of me that have tried to be like, don't get in my way. Or I mean, I'm not very

00:23:17.520 threatening. Who am I kidding? But I do. I think it's like a female. It's interesting to me that this

00:23:24.340 is just a it's a more modern female. It still strikes me as insecurity. It's all just female

00:23:30.660 insecurity. Yes, that's I mean, honestly, I what woman who's in a real good, healthy relationship

00:23:39.160 is running around threatening other hot women. I'll beat you up if you take my man. That's I don't get

00:23:47.380 like, I feel like Beyonce would have been better served by just just redoing it. It's your it's your

00:23:52.560 not you don't have to tell your story. Right. Obviously, she was cheated on by Jay Z. She's

00:23:58.180 she's written about it. She's been singing about it for many years now. You don't have to tell your

00:24:03.820 story. You're telling a story. And this is a version of womanhood where an insecure woman

00:24:11.840 feels like feels threatened by a more beautiful other woman. And as Kat writes in her piece, almost

00:24:20.220 savvily figures out a way to land it, not by shaming the man, not by threatening the woman,

00:24:27.620 but with flattery of this beautiful threat, MK. And yes, a plea to stay out of it, which is much more

00:24:36.680 complex and interesting. Well, you know, as a woman who many women come to me and say, you know,

00:24:42.280 I know you can take my man, but please don't. It happens on a daily basis. They're going to be

00:24:48.460 in my Twitter feed right after this. I can say no, look, I think the original Jolene is

00:24:54.360 sad and deep. It's deeply sad song that she's having to do this. And that's what it's fascinating

00:25:02.380 for that reason. Yes. It's like psychologically interesting. Now, would I live my life more like

00:25:08.160 the Beyonce version? Probably. I'm a little sorry. I might be more than speaking of Melinda Hamilton

00:25:14.220 years. But I think there's a whole genre of country music in particular that can get very sad and a

00:25:22.040 little pathetic sometimes. And I would argue that people shouldn't live their lives that way. But I

00:25:26.140 enjoy the character drama of that sadness, of that pain. And that's what I reacted to in the

00:25:31.960 original Jolene. Also, covering it just as Dolly Parton did means you have to compete with Dolly

00:25:37.940 Parton, who is the Jolene of music. So there's that. It's true. It's true. She begins her piece

00:25:44.320 by, I don't know, did you guys see on X a couple weeks ago, there have been some amazing pictures

00:25:48.360 of Dolly Parton, circa 1965 circulating, and she's absolutely stunning. We'll put one on this page for

00:25:55.920 when we air this on YouTube. And she begins her piece by saying, not long ago, a post crossed my

00:26:01.060 timeline featuring a black and white heartstoppingly gorgeous photo of Dolly Parton in the 60s.

00:26:06.700 The caption read simply, what the hell did Jolene look like? One can only wonder. But she's her

00:26:14.000 argument is followed. She says that we have replaced like certain models of female resilience with the

00:26:24.500 quote, badass woman who has no feelings, who has no flaws, who has little use for other people,

00:26:31.680 except as either casual sex partners or punching bags, men in particular. And she writes,

00:26:37.560 it's ironic in a world where women can pursue even more varied paths to fulfillment, that the

00:26:41.720 representation of female strength in art has become increasingly narrow, one dimensional and

00:26:46.120 masculinized. The self rescuing princess who could forget the Snow White actress right out there,

00:26:51.820 how much she hates Snow White. There's not going to be rescued by a prince. The emotionally aloof

00:26:57.360 action heroine, the invulnerable workaholic commitment phobic playgirl, an awful lot of strong

00:27:04.480 female characters these days are basically just men with tits. This is such a good observation.

00:27:13.000 She's right. We, this is a point I've been trying to make in different ways, which is

00:27:17.540 people. Why did we have to go from women shouldn't work? Women should only have babies. Women aren't

00:27:24.880 strong. Women are too emotional. Women have to be locked up for their hysterics. If they express

00:27:29.620 tears or, you know, anxiety to women have no emotion. Women are total ball busters and showing any

00:27:38.200 softness, tears, empathy, vulnerability, insecurity is somehow non-feminine and no longer acceptable

00:27:48.700 in one's idea of what a woman is, what an ideal woman is. Yeah, I think there's, there's little

00:27:57.100 flexibility often. It's like very, it's very confusing what the cultural message is. And even,

00:28:02.360 but Yance herself has fallen into this trap. I wrote in, um, I wrote about this in the past,

00:28:06.700 about the moment where she walked in front of that feminist sign at, uh, whatever it was,

00:28:10.060 the, the MTV awards or something, or maybe the Grammys. And it's just lit up and feminist behind

00:28:14.740 her. And she's standing in front of us very powerful. And then like shortly after that,

00:28:17.900 she takes her, her husband's name and then uses it on a tour. And she got lambasted for doing that.

00:28:24.380 It's like, there's a lot of ways to be, we just like give ourselves that. I don't have to shoot for

00:28:30.340 this C-suite. And I also don't have to only be at home. There's, there's a real happy medium somewhere

00:28:36.240 here. Well, I think it was a swing and a miss. I think this guy from the Atlantic who reviewed

00:28:43.720 Beyonce's, uh, cover of Jolene nailed it where he said he wrote that Beyonce replaced the vulnerability

00:28:50.760 that made Jolene one of the best tunes of all time with a bunch of bad bitch cliches. And if you

00:28:57.740 listen to the whole song, all the lyrics are changed is she's changed the entire meaning of

00:29:02.140 the song, but she's, she's bastardized it because she's kept the name Jolene and the tune,

00:29:07.780 but this is an entirely different message. And it's, I don't buy it. I really don't buy it.

00:29:13.820 I don't think Beyonce did beat up the woman who slept with Jay-Z and like, and I don't think it's

00:29:20.260 empowering to threaten that she's going to beat up the next one. What's empowering is to know he would

00:29:25.120 never do this to me. And I have zero worries about this kind of betrayal because I've nurtured my

00:29:30.760 relationship because I'm an equal partner in it because we have a, you know, a loving partnership

00:29:36.100 in marriage, which leads me to this nut over at the cut. Oh my God, this is so good. My team has

00:29:42.860 found the greatest articles for us to discuss today. Okay. Let me find it. There is a woman.

00:29:49.680 She wrote this lengthy piece in the cut, which is an offshoot of New York magazine. It has a benign

00:29:57.360 headline. The case for marrying an older man, a woman's life is all work and little rest

00:30:03.260 and age gap relationship can help. All right. I don't know. Like I didn't even click on this

00:30:09.120 when I was like, whatever. So there's nothing controversial about marrying somebody a little

00:30:13.000 older until you read the piece until you read the piece. Hold on a second. I don't have it.

00:30:19.780 What's her name? We actually looked it up and we have her picture, which will become relevant.

00:30:23.200 Grazie, Sofia, Christi. Grazie, Sofia, Christi. And, um, let me give you and the audience a taste

00:30:33.320 of her argument. In sum, Grazie believes you should marry someone older and you should do it in your

00:30:40.720 twenties so that he can teach you everything you need to know. You can have a divine time while you're

00:30:48.080 young and you can see beautiful places that match your exterior while it's still beautiful,

00:30:56.100 because there's a symmetry in that. You need to get to the Caribbean ASAP before your 30th birthday

00:31:04.580 by marrying a rich older dude, because your pics are going to look better if you're still pretty.

00:31:10.380 Okay. I'm going to give you a few highlights. When I was 20 and a junior at Harvard, which she gets

00:31:16.920 in there, a series of great ironies began to mock me. I could diligently craft an ideal existence over

00:31:23.860 years and years of sleepless nights and industry, or I could just marry it early. Thanks for taking

00:31:30.380 someone's place at Harvard, Grazie. The, uh, the greater and more visible, the difference in years

00:31:38.440 in status between a man and a woman, the more it strikes others as transactional. True, but she has

00:31:44.580 no problem in actually doing it because I'm 27 now, she says, and most women my age have partners.

00:31:53.020 These days, girls become partners quite young. The problem with a partner, however, is if you're equal

00:31:58.120 in all things, you compromise in all things and men are too skilled at taking. Okay. She goes on.

00:32:05.860 Bear with me. My husband, who is older, struck me as so finished, formed, analyzable for compatibility.

00:32:14.760 He bore the traces of other women who had improved him. My husband isn't my partner. He's my mentor,

00:32:20.760 my lover, and only in certain contexts, my friend. I'll never forget it, how he showed me around our

00:32:27.700 first place like he was introducing me to myself. This is the wine you'll drink, where you'll keep

00:32:33.760 your clothes. We vacation here. This is the other language we'll speak. You'll learn it. And I did.

00:32:41.400 By opting out of partnership in my twenties, I granted myself a kind of compartmentalized,

00:32:46.500 liberating selfishness. None of my friends have managed. I am the work in progress, the party we

00:32:53.320 worry about. A surprising dominance. I don't fool myself. My marriage has its cons. There are only so

00:33:00.260 many times one can say thank you, which is literally part of her name, according to her bio,

00:33:08.020 for splendid scenes, fine dinners, before that phrase starts to grate. Mostly, I worry that if he

00:33:17.380 ever betrayed me and I had to move on, I would survive, but would find in my humor, my preferences,

00:33:24.600 the way I make coffee or the bed, nothing that he did, not teach, change, mold, recompose,

00:33:32.960 or stamp with his initials. There's more, but that's enough. She's not making the bed.

00:33:38.260 She is not making the bed, first of all. What is this? Let me just tell you something. I had a friend

00:33:46.920 who dated an older man who was very wealthy. And one of the things that drove me crazy about the

00:33:52.960 relationship was, I said, he keeps trying to make you into his Eliza Doolittle. You're nobody's Eliza

00:34:00.060 Doolittle. You're a fully formed, strong, independent woman, and you don't need him

00:34:04.260 to show you the wine we're going to drink, the language you'll learn, and you must.

00:34:10.040 This is a Harvard student, Bridget, trying to express to us the liberation that comes with

00:34:17.180 being completely submissive and, I guess, losing yourself to a man who's had the luxury

00:34:24.140 of forming his own independent thoughts. Yeah, it's funny. I was in a relationship like this,

00:34:30.380 like, in a younger part of my life with an older man who was very wealthy and wanted me to learn

00:34:36.140 French and we were in Saint-Tropez. And I've written a lot about this. And he treated me like

00:34:43.200 a pet or like a little entertainer. You know, he found me very, very funny, my backpacking ways and

00:34:50.340 my poverty. And she's really like the sugardaddy.com generation, OnlyFans. I feel like you're not pitching

00:35:01.780 anything new here. Marrying a rich old guy is like a tale as old as time. This is not something

00:35:08.240 that is revolutionary by any means. I think just her spin on it is a lot of self-delusion.

00:35:17.620 Here's the piece that I referenced, MK. Yeah. Very soon, we will decide to have children. And I

00:35:24.600 don't panic over last gasps of fun. This is how this young generation looks at motherhood.

00:35:30.640 Uh, because I took so many big breaths of it early on the holidays of someone who had worked

00:35:37.660 a decade longer than I had in beautiful places. When I was young and beautiful, a symmetry I

00:35:44.500 recommend if such a thing as maternal energy exists, mine was never depleted. I spent the

00:35:51.540 last nearly seven years supported more than I support. And I am still not as old as my husband

00:35:58.700 was when he met me. So that's the thing. Get out there. As I said, before the elderly age

00:36:06.800 of 28, make sure your beautiful selfies have the right background. Because when you're ancient,

00:36:13.700 like the three of us on this screen, it's over. Right. There's a lot of that messaging.

00:36:20.120 Yeah. A lot. Like, I mean, do you think, girl, enjoy, but like, it's just not my kind of shallow.

00:36:26.620 Like I'm like hot and no 401k. I want over older and richer. Like that's fine with me. That's why I

00:36:34.460 make a living. You know, that's, uh, that, that freed me up. Um, I just think all this messaging,

00:36:41.220 by the way, some people seem to think might encourage women voters to vote for the people

00:36:46.260 that they prefer, that it's like, everything is over when you're 28 and a half. So you better get

00:36:52.220 it done before then. Uh, in my personal life has just not been the case. Uh, I've lived several

00:36:58.320 chapters. Uh, I've enjoyed all of them. And the idea of, uh, making sure that someone else takes care

00:37:06.380 of the first independent chapter of my life doesn't sound appealing to me. I enjoyed finding my way.

00:37:13.260 Yeah. Right. Remember, I mean, being in your young twenties and being kind of lost and having to

00:37:21.260 pay for your first rent bill. I remember when I moved to Chicago for law school, I was dirt poor

00:37:26.240 because I was funding my own law school and I didn't have any money. And I literally had an old

00:37:32.860 like love seat that my mother gave me and a mattress that went on the floor and two milk crates with a TV

00:37:41.000 that had antenna. All right. That's how old I am. And antenna the milk crates. I was so happy. I had

00:37:48.220 a box wine, what box wine in the fridge. I felt like a grownup. It's, there was no one taking care

00:37:55.860 of me. I took care of me. I loved every second of the climb. And she talks about it. Like it's

00:38:02.260 something to escape Bridget. Like it's, this is, you're kind of a loser. If you don't take the

00:38:07.500 shortcut where you can just be beautiful wherever you go.

00:38:11.000 Yeah. It's interesting because a lot of the stuff we're covering, it's, it seems almost

00:38:16.020 conflict, flicting. You kind of came up through this like boss bitch air, you know, the, the height

00:38:22.620 of it and a, in a man's world essentially. And we are all bit, you know, we're ancient and

00:38:29.600 geriatric on this panel. So we came up through this time where you did have to try and fight

00:38:35.020 like a man. And it was, it was a bit more of an aggressive feminism. And now I'm seeing

00:38:40.020 this big blowback where, you know, there's the trad wife, um, rhetoric that we hear constantly

00:38:46.600 and that you're pretty much dusty and done at the age of 30. And like MK, I have had many lives

00:38:54.460 and I am a late bloomer. I had my first child at 42 years old. And it it's, um, I, I feel bad for

00:39:02.300 women who get this messaging, like go find somebody to take care of you and just give up before you

00:39:07.800 even get started. Because for me, like you, my twenties, I had a box, you know, a side table out

00:39:13.300 of a box and a blow up mattress. And that, that struggle and hustle really defined, helped me find

00:39:21.460 myself. And it also helps me really identify with people who are struggling and trying to make it on

00:39:29.420 their own because I've been there. I've been too broke to buy shampoo. And I've, I've also been in

00:39:37.020 a situation like her where I had everything taken care of. And I remember being more depressed and

00:39:44.020 lost and than I ever had been in my life in that situation. And I remember looking out at the

00:39:51.160 Mediterranean and thinking like, this is rock bottom, even though it sounds ridiculous. It really was an

00:39:58.240 internal, I had completely lost myself. And this just kind of, in some ways, this article sounds a

00:40:05.560 bit like a cope. Yeah. Well, and by the way, the guy she married is only 37. Like he's only 10 years

00:40:12.200 older than she, she talks to him. Like she's found a 60 year old sugar daddy at age 20. Yeah. It's not

00:40:17.040 what happened. Um, but yeah, what were you going to say? Okay. No, the, the pendulum just swings too hard

00:40:22.480 in our cultural conversations. Right. So it has to go from boss bitch to like, and that does,

00:40:27.260 that did devalue some of the work that women did at home raising children. And I do want to send the

00:40:32.960 message. Um, but it's different than the, the trad wife thing, which is like, I got married. I had a

00:40:38.660 partner. I raised these kids. I enjoy it. Like this is part of the great adventure of my life. It wasn't

00:40:46.180 the end of joy. Um, and also it's coupled with some other things and some independence and things that I

00:40:51.880 want to teach my children. Also the idea that you have to be pretty to enjoy the beauty of God's earth, uh,

00:40:59.700 is so sad. Yeah. It's so sad. You've got your whole life. It is a privilege to age to get to the, to the

00:41:06.460 later years. Enjoy what is in front of your eyes the whole time. Yeah. I'm just saying like, she's fine, but

00:41:12.880 she's an attractive woman, but like, I expected more for somebody who was bragging about how

00:41:17.100 beautiful she was. I'm not going to lie. I did. That's just politics. You got to manage those

00:41:23.500 expectations. All right. No, all of this brings me to my friend, Charlie Kirk, who I think I've seen

00:41:30.860 both of you guys ripping on online and he's taking a fair amount of incoming for his comments on young

00:41:36.040 women. And I will start this by saying, I love Charlie. He, he says a lot of controversial things,

00:41:40.440 but I did. I think he's absolutely beautiful. Beautiful. That's I'm looking, I think at my,

00:41:44.500 my other, he's not beautiful. I think he's absolutely brilliant. Maybe his wife finds him

00:41:47.700 beautiful. Um, and here is what he said in part about young women. If you are a 32 year old young

00:41:55.880 lady who went to college, who has a nice apartment, a corporate job and cats, you know, you're, you're a

00:42:00.860 Democrat voter, right? What's amazing is once they get married, they become 50, 50. Once they have kids,

00:42:07.820 they become like right wing about by 20 points. We basically told a great generation of young

00:42:13.120 women, don't get married, don't have kids, go get a corporate job. And it's created mass political

00:42:19.160 hysteria. Um, and then in their early thirties, they get really upset because they say, you know,

00:42:24.520 the boys don't want to date me anymore because they're not at their prime. And people get mad when

00:42:28.440 I say that was just true. If you're in your early thirties, I'm sorry. It's like, you're not as

00:42:31.760 attractive in the dating pool as you were in the early twenties. But again, you have your corporate job

00:42:35.320 and cats. So I thought, you know, um, and I feel sorry for a lot of these young ladies. They email

00:42:40.780 me all the time and they say, Charlie, I'm broken down in tears. I'm 33. I earn $130,000 a year. I

00:42:46.160 travel a lot and I have no one to share my life with. And I hope they find somebody in time.

00:42:50.800 And that's why they always frame it. They're like, I'm running out of time and running out of time,

00:42:53.520 running out of time. It's like, well, the culture did this to you, but you also made a decision.

00:42:58.620 You made a decision consciously to not date with the intent to marry. And it creates,

00:43:04.720 it creates a lot of bad, um, a lot of bad consequences. I'm not saying that every young

00:43:09.260 woman is called necessarily to be a mother, but almost every single one is. And almost every

00:43:13.280 single one deep down wants to be a mother. And they're told, you know, Hey, I want it all.

00:43:17.620 I want it all, all the time. You need to ask, if you had to choose, which would it be a great,

00:43:21.620 amazing career or a beautiful, healthy family? And they're never actually presented with that binary.

00:43:27.420 Yeah.

00:43:28.620 Bridget sitting back with her head back in her. I'm just so over this like hole. Oh,

00:43:35.740 it's just so gross to me. All of it. Like, first of all, you're not old and dusty. If you're 32

00:43:40.480 met again, it makes me mad. The focus is never on the quality of men. What are the men like now?

00:43:46.640 What, why aren't we looking at what, why don't we ever discuss what, what the condition of the men is

00:43:52.400 in this situation? Also these women who are like 32,

00:43:57.000 and it's not necessarily because they're not in their prime that people don't want to date them.

00:44:01.620 It's because they're mentally ill often. Like there's also just, there's also just a general

00:44:07.840 craziness. I mean, yeah. When you look at the, when you do look at the numbers, it's wild. Like

00:44:12.940 it's single liberal women who are saying kind of single handedly all voting democratic across the

00:44:20.100 board. And I do think even just from seeing responses to certain pieces and whatnot, that

00:44:27.420 they do feel like the culture has lied to them and that there's, they want, but why not both? Like

00:44:33.100 it's not a binary. You don't have to choose between having a child and having a career.

00:44:38.700 You can do both. And the, the fact that it's being presented as even there's some binary that

00:44:45.360 a woman has to choose makes me insane. Well, and I think what Charlie was talking about, I mean,

00:44:51.700 I understand what he's saying. I think you're understand what he's saying too, which is

00:44:54.820 I've had women come up to me and say the same thing that they're, they were sold a bill of goods,

00:44:59.400 you know, get a job, be a, be a badass, be a boss, be a girl boss. And then they realized

00:45:04.680 they weren't fulfilled and time had gone by. And especially, I don't know about 32, but you know,

00:45:10.140 you get to 38, which is how old I was when I had my first child. And it's not wrong that it's much

00:45:17.500 more difficult to conceive a baby at 38 than it is at 28. That's just facts. That's biology.

00:45:23.820 Um, and then they worry, they're like, wait a minute, what did I do? Did I miss my window?

00:45:28.260 This is why a lot of women are now freezing their eggs young. And I do think that these young women

00:45:32.200 were done a disservice MK by messaging on the front of Ms. Magazine and shows and so on for a long time

00:45:40.900 about how, what, what's worthy, what's valued is a job. That's what we care about. The job fair

00:45:47.380 will be crammed down your throat with all of the girl bosses. And there will never be a stay-at-home

00:45:52.740 mom who parades across the stage to say, this is why I made the choice I did. And raising my family

00:45:58.440 has been spectacular for me. No, I think some of that is true. And I want to have empathy for those

00:46:04.840 women. I want those women to come with me on this journey. One of the things that post COVID I worried

00:46:09.920 about is that like, there is increased mental illness, but you don't get people out of their

00:46:14.480 anxiety by yelling at them that they shouldn't be anxious. Right. We have to be a little bit more

00:46:18.620 compassionate than that. And one of the ways that I hope to message to these women is not to say

00:46:23.360 it's all over for you. And I'm going to make fun of your sadness and your cats, but to say,

00:46:27.660 I have enjoyed my adventure. I love parenting my children. I have four children, which is the number

00:46:34.340 that people go, what happened there? What's your religion? What's happening? And the answer is I

00:46:39.200 have four children because they are fun. They are fun. And this era offers me more flexibility as a mom

00:46:46.360 than any era before now. And I get to live that cool journey. Now, Charlie Kirk had said that maybe

00:46:53.820 you get a couple of people who are inch out of that, uh, inch out of, I think his criticism was

00:46:58.900 mostly of these leftist women. And he criticizes leftist men with their man buns too, to your point,

00:47:04.480 Bridget of like, who exactly are they going to get to partner with and father their children?

00:47:08.160 So he is tough on his own sex as well. Um, but yeah, we, by the way, can I, can I also just,

00:47:13.040 can I also just shout out the, uh, my husband and empirical 10 who I married at the age of 39.

00:47:19.260 So have hope ladies. Same. Honestly, I met Doug when I was 35, we got married when I was 37 and we

00:47:27.140 had babies at 38, 40 and 42. And I have to say to this woman who wrote the cup thing to grazie.

00:47:33.040 I don't know if that's yours is her handle or what. Um, all stages have been awesome. And Doug is very

00:47:39.060 hot. So, you know, screw you. We're still looking good in front of the beautiful St. Farts

00:47:44.040 background. You don't have to only be 20, right? Like just try a little harder. Go ahead, Bridget.

00:47:50.400 You're, I just think that you're not giving people an off ramp. So if you're, you are mocking them and

00:47:55.820 saying, Oh, you're crazy. And you're cats and you're, you're aged out at 32. What aren't you

00:48:00.780 supposed to try to open the tent and be saying like, okay, so maybe you're feeling if these women are

00:48:06.920 calling you and saying, I feel regret. Shouldn't you be, um, offering them some kind of hope,

00:48:12.020 offering them some kind of salvation, offering them something and derision, acknowledging their

00:48:19.700 reality, because there are a lot of women in their twenties who would have loved to have found a

00:48:25.140 partner and gotten married. And they're looking at, you know, around at 34, like, where are they?

00:48:31.800 Where are they? Right? Like that, those women don't need to be mocked. I have, I think he's

00:48:36.700 thinking about a particular brand of lecturing leftists who then turn around and realize their

00:48:41.400 messaging didn't pan out. Okay. Stand by. There's so much more to get to so much more goodness.

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00:49:47.420 Everyone is still abuzz in the Northeast here where there was an earthquake

00:49:56.560 that started in, it was in New Jersey, but it was felt in the New York metropolitan area where I am

00:50:02.620 in Connecticut, of course, across New Jersey and places of Pennsylvania. And this guy, Alex Cohen on

00:50:08.720 Twitter, tweeted out F it best New York City earthquake memes thread. And he's just going through

00:50:15.220 a few of the reactions online. Okay, let's see. It's a text exchange. We just had an earthquake.

00:50:21.560 LOL person responds. No way. Yeah, it was a 4.8 and lasted like 10 seconds. Pretty sweet response.

00:50:28.760 Sounds like someone I know. Okay, let's see. About to did you just feel that earthquake my way back into

00:50:38.920 her life? Then there's a site called earthquake. Did anyone just feel that? And somebody responds,

00:50:45.420 yes. Does anyone know any single men aged 25 to 50? I haven't been on a date in a while. And that

00:50:50.180 earthquake made me think maybe I should kick this life partner search up a notch. This is not a

00:50:53.960 dating site. People are losing it. It's a big deal for us Northeast nerders who just don't get this

00:50:59.280 kind of fun every once in a while. I mean, again, I hope everybody's safe. I haven't heard any reports

00:51:03.500 at 4.7. I don't, there shouldn't be too much fallout, but we'll see in any event. Probably the most

00:51:09.720 exciting weather wise thing we've had in a while. My girl was ready to start her intentional dating

00:51:15.340 journey. That was she's she's turning the page. What do you mean? So she had a taste of mortality

00:51:22.640 and she decided I'm going to find a life partner. And that's what that's what we're encouraging

00:51:26.140 folks to do. We need more earthquakes. Speaking of dating. Do you know who the Hensel twins are?

00:51:36.300 Oh, yes. So they are conjoined twins. And it's very rare for conjoined twins to make it in like to

00:51:53.080 live. Yeah, these, these two have they're 34 years old. They are America's most famous conjoined twins

00:52:01.080 says the Daily Mail. Um, Abby and Brittany Hensel. They actually had their own reality show.

00:52:08.120 They're from Minnesota. And they are one just got married, which is so confusing. How does it work?

00:52:20.740 So I'm going to show you a graphic of what body parts they share. They have two distinct heads,

00:52:28.920 two distinct hearts, two esophaguses, two gallbladders, two stomachs, three kidneys.

00:52:37.880 But then things merge. They have one large intestine, two stomachs, but only one large intestine

00:52:47.980 and one small intestine, one pelvis, two legs, of course, one bladder. But like basically from the

00:52:55.580 intestines down, they look like a single person, like a like just one person. And they also say that

00:53:04.560 Brittany, who's the left twin, cannot feel anything on the right side of the body. And Abigail, the right

00:53:12.180 twin, can't feel anything on the left side of the body. For a task such as replying to emails,

00:53:19.040 they use the keyboard and respond as one. And there are other examples of some of the things they do

00:53:25.260 together from their show. I'll give you an example. This is how they drive. It's hot seven.

00:53:31.420 I think we're good drivers, but we have two licenses. And when we got our driver's license,

00:53:37.340 we each had to take the test. We both passed. Abby is control of the gas and the brakes.

00:53:43.360 And then we both steer, obviously. And then I'm in charge of the clicker for the blinker. So.

00:53:50.820 My God, the challenges these girls have faced. Okay, this is how they type on the computer.

00:53:58.020 But when we type, but we say what we're going to say out loud, like we speak it and then we type

00:54:06.800 it. And it's like we have different opinions on something. We'll be like, Abby says this and Brittany

00:54:11.380 says that. Oh, my Lord. Okay, here is after they got a job as math specialist teachers.

00:54:21.700 It's hot 10. So we got a job, which is really exciting. We are fourth and fifth grade math

00:54:31.640 specialists. So we'll have two classes of math. It's part time, which is nice. So we'll be kind

00:54:38.240 of transitioning into the teaching world. There's so much stuff. Do we really need this stuff?

00:54:44.420 Probably. So there's a lot of stuff you need when you're a teacher, obviously. We didn't really know

00:54:49.440 what we were going to need or like get or need or whatever, but we just went just to at least

00:54:55.040 get started. We have two contracts, but we're only part time. So obviously we don't get full

00:55:00.320 salary, but what they're doing is just splitting it in two and giving me half and Brittany half.

00:55:05.600 So right now that's good.

00:55:09.140 That is absolutely fascinating how they both jump in with an um at the exact same time when

00:55:15.580 the other one is speaking. I mean, it really is almost like, you know, two different versions of

00:55:21.200 the same person and they, they are, they literally are. Well, now they're in the news and obviously

00:55:28.000 they've put themselves out publicly. Otherwise I wouldn't be talking about them, but they've put

00:55:32.140 themselves out there and they are, one of them got married. And of course that's left, let everybody

00:55:38.960 ask, what does that mean? Like, how can one of them get married? Abby, um, is the one who's the

00:55:47.320 right twin. And we're showing the, a video of them dancing at their wedding as the first dance. Abby

00:55:55.260 got married. And I guess the sister Brittany, who's on the left, isn't married, but you know, not to put

00:56:04.500 to find a point on it, but they do share everything down South in Rio, but it's unclear who feels what

00:56:12.780 happens down there and what happens to the other one. Like the one here on the outside, Abby is the

00:56:19.460 one who's married. The one on the inside of that shot is not married. What happens with the other?

00:56:24.500 I think there's, everyone's got to go along with it when they consummate the marriage and all that.

00:56:28.980 I'm so confused. I am amazed. I've never heard of these young women before. Have you heard of these

00:56:34.980 women? My, my take is that it's the only acceptable use of they, them. This is the appropriate use of

00:56:45.980 it. This makes sense. It's not hurting my brain to use they, them pronouns. In this instance, I can make

00:56:55.580 sense of it. It is accurate. It is appropriate. I wonder if they're mad that like the gender people

00:57:02.560 took their pronouns. Yeah. Well, I am. Whenever I'm a member of a group, I feel like my, my pronoun

00:57:08.780 has been stolen. I can't believe, like, I can't help but think MK looking at them. I'm like,

00:57:15.040 we got people bitching that like they're, you know, they've got like the disorder where you pull out

00:57:21.400 your hair, shut up, shut up and take a look at the Hensel twins because they seem happy. They

00:57:28.420 actually seem pretty delightful. I mean, talk about life's challenges. Yeah. So the name didn't

00:57:34.800 ring a bell right away, but I have known about them for years. They're younger than I am, but I remember

00:57:39.740 reading about them as a kid, probably in people magazine or something, because they're a medical

00:57:44.180 miracle that they have survived. Um, but I think they're an emotional miracle that their resilience is

00:57:49.920 so clear. Uh, these young women are enjoying life seemingly. Obviously they've done everything

00:57:58.020 together for the entirety of that life. So I'm sure them navigating whatever the arrangements are

00:58:04.660 is something that frankly, they have, uh, had a lot of practice at and to, uh, watch them make a life

00:58:11.180 in the way that they have is kind of amazing. And we had a whole discourse on Twitter, like two weeks

00:58:17.000 ago about how, uh, actually getting door dash was necessary for people because they have too much

00:58:22.440 anxiety to microwave a dinner or go shopping. And I was like, guys, we are really teetering on the edge

00:58:29.620 here. And I would, I would advise that those folks look to these twins for some inspiration because they

00:58:35.340 have whole jobs and meal making and getting married under control. Well, think about it because

00:58:41.440 you got people out there like, Oh, you know, they, they stared at me because I'm different or I'm

00:58:46.320 other, I'm, you know, I'm a minority and I'm in a majority white classroom, whatever it is.

00:58:51.520 You want to talk about getting stared at? These two are not hibernating at home. He got a job

00:58:57.440 teaching in a school. They're out there driving there. There's no way that literally everybody in

00:59:04.900 the grocery store is not staring at them. They, we show that the video of them doing their shopping.

00:59:08.380 They, they get used to it. You deal with it. You get past adversity. And this is about as

00:59:13.240 challenging as an adversity as I've ever seen. I want to know more about the husband.

00:59:18.140 How, like, how do you fall in love only with the one? Does the other one know to be quiet when like

00:59:22.620 the bonding's happening, you kind of try to fade into the distance when they have their first kiss

00:59:26.840 and you're like, I can see you. Like what, what is her role? Yeah. Yeah. My, my husband was like,

00:59:35.460 that's one way to find your way into a threesome.

00:59:41.860 Uh, yeah, by the way, I, I should note there's a viral post going around that proclaims to be an

00:59:48.540 explanation of their sex life, which is not real. So just if you guys have seen that, um,

00:59:54.700 an FYI, wait, is it because the daily mail has a whole writeup on it? Apparently it's not real.

01:00:00.260 No, the Northwestern university person. No, there might be some medical speculation with

01:00:07.100 an expert, but I think the one that allegedly came from them. Oh, okay. No, I trust the daily

01:00:13.420 mail. Daily mail consults with Northwestern university's Feinberg school of medicine,

01:00:17.680 uh, and the professor of clinical medicine, medical humanities, and bioethics, Alice Drager,

01:00:22.660 who says they share one set of genitals that they would both feel any touching down there,

01:00:27.440 whether both would experience the big O at the same time. We don't know. And do they experience

01:00:33.820 it? Like, do they both have sensation? They have separate brains, but this shared reproductive

01:00:39.440 situation. So who knows? Um, Drager from her studies assumes conjoined twins like these

01:00:47.300 likely have less sex than average people. You think not just because finding a partner is harder.

01:00:55.740 We know you don't need a degree from Northwestern. Um, but because they may not need romantic partners

01:01:02.540 as much as everyone else, because they are literally attached to a soulmate. Think about that.

01:01:08.940 You, the funny, the funniest reaction was all the women being like, they can find us and I can't.

01:01:16.260 That was like the best reaction on all of social media is like these,

01:01:20.620 they can find someone and I can't find a good man out there.

01:01:25.180 It's a good point. Um, I don't know. I wish them the best. It's extremely rare to have

01:01:30.060 conjoined twins survive. Usually just imagine never being alone long ago.

01:01:34.900 Yeah. That sounds horrible to me. Yeah. You're never alone ever. Not for one second of your entire

01:01:41.320 life. I would not like that. I like my alone time. I get grumpy if I don't get it. I mean,

01:01:46.360 maybe it's different when you actually share half a body with the person, you know, like she's tired

01:01:50.680 too. You know, if you, I like, are the personalities sharply different where they argue, you know,

01:01:55.300 it's like bloodstream too. Yeah. It is one, like, stop drinking so much. I'm sick of going to the

01:02:00.860 toilet, you know, like, yeah, to get like, can you imagine the fights they must have?

01:02:05.260 I anyway, we'll see. I hope it lasts. I, I have to give the audience an update about another odd

01:02:12.080 pairing that we brought to them. And that is gypsy Rose, the young girl, now a woman who was the

01:02:19.980 victim of a crazed mother who either had Munchausen's by proxy, you know, she was making the daughter sick

01:02:25.960 or just was a big fraud and wanted the daughter to act sick. I don't totally understand what the

01:02:32.820 mother's motivation was to this day, but she was completely ruining gypsy Rose's life and kept her

01:02:37.800 in a wheelchair and was pumping her through full of medications, having her have surgeries that she

01:02:41.520 didn't need. Crazy that the medical community was complicit and gypsy Rose wound up getting a guy to kill

01:02:47.540 the mom. And the guy went to jail forever. And gypsy Rose just got out. And she's like a tiny

01:02:55.400 high pitched voice gal. I'm sure there's been some stunting from all the mother, the mother's

01:03:00.380 mistreatment. But while in prison, she found a husband. Here's a clip of them when she got out

01:03:06.460 just a couple of months ago. Ryan, how are you dealing with the newfound fame and being in the

01:03:11.200 spotlight? I knew who I married. She was like, are you sure? Are you sure? And of course I was. I mean,

01:03:15.980 I'm in love with this girl. Well, you're already clapping back on the social media. I've seen those.

01:03:20.020 I do believe y'all had some spicy things to say to each other. Well, we're new. Like, you know,

01:03:28.000 I mean, we're married. What's hard for me is watching, you know, the negative comments towards

01:03:33.320 him. I can handle negative comments towards me because I don't care. But when it's about somebody

01:03:38.060 that I love, I want to clap back. And that was my, you know, clap back a little bit. I'm going to come

01:03:44.400 to his defense. He's my man. Like, that's what wives do. Okay. She's referring to a post in which

01:03:51.380 she clapped back to somebody who was criticizing, saying Ryan to her husband, don't listen to the

01:03:56.660 haters. I love you. You love me. We owe no one anything. Our families who matters, blah, blah,

01:04:02.440 blah, blah, blah. Besides they jealous because you are rocking my world every night. Yeah, I said it.

01:04:07.780 The D is fire. Well, it turns out their marriage didn't last. It's over already. Apparently the D is

01:04:21.160 not fire and the relationship is in embers. Shockingly, their prison marriage did not work

01:04:28.440 out, which, you know, I'm not sure what the odds are, but I'm going to have to guess they weren't

01:04:33.420 very good to begin with. None of the kids, I never understand people who marry people who are in

01:04:36.740 prison, but happened, failed again. It happens a lot. Yeah. Yeah. He looked a little bit like the

01:04:43.800 handsome husband. Oh, he did. Usually it's a woman on the outside though, right? Like marrying the

01:04:49.400 Menendez brothers. I don't know. Like there are women who really get off on like bad boys and I'm

01:04:54.960 going to be the one who changes them. This is something else. I don't know. Gypsy Rose has got

01:04:59.400 like 10 million followers on Instagram might be 20 or something huge. And I'm sure she's a moneymaker

01:05:05.400 not to falsely impugn Brian. Oh, I'm sure given the fire comment had other advantages, but in any

01:05:13.080 event. Okay. Moving on. Sex in the city is coming back. Did you know that it's being re-released on

01:05:21.320 Netflix in the same way friends was just re-released on Netflix. And there is a real question about whether

01:05:29.240 it can make it in modern day America, uh, our old intern for this show, Ricky Schlott, who is amazing

01:05:37.140 and incredibly talented writes for the New York post sometimes. And she's got a piece saying Gen Z is

01:05:43.280 not going to be able to handle this. And apparently she sat, she's younger, you know, she was our intern

01:05:47.500 and she sat and she watched all of the sex in the city episodes and thought Gen Z is going to have a

01:05:54.160 total meltdown when they meet Carrie Bradshaw and this cast of characters talking about how

01:06:00.360 this, you know, looked at through our 2024 eyes is not going to age. Well, she has no problem with it.

01:06:07.760 She's not woke and she's not annoying. Uh, but she is pointing to scenes like this one saying,

01:06:13.860 how's this going to go over? Stop 14. He's a bisexual. Well, I could have told you that,

01:06:20.600 sweetie. He took you ice skating for God's sake. You know, that generation is all about sexual

01:06:25.700 experimentation. All the kids are going bi. So what, if all the bi kids are jumping off a bridge,

01:06:30.380 you're going to do that too? I'm a trisexual. I'll try anything once. When did this happen? When did

01:06:36.220 the sexes get all confused? Somewhere between Gen X and Gen Y, they blended and made XY. I'm not even

01:06:42.600 sure bisexuality exists. I think it's just a layover on the way to gay town. I'm very into labels. Gay,

01:06:49.560 straight, pick a side and stay there.

01:06:54.340 Mm-hmm. Then there's this with Samantha moving into, I think it was downtown,

01:07:01.140 the meatpacking district and encountering quote trannies.

01:07:05.660 Shut up, you bitches. I called the cops.

01:07:08.960 Fuck my car.

01:07:10.840 Yeah, keep talking. I'll come down there and cut it off for you.

01:07:13.920 The next Saturday, Samantha decided to throw a kiss and makeup party for the up my ass players

01:07:19.900 and their friends.

01:07:22.740 Different times.

01:07:23.580 Already, already you've got people commenting. She's got them in her piece. Lark, I can just

01:07:32.260 see the Gen Z discourse on Sex and the City. Oh no. There's Emily watching Sex and the City

01:07:38.240 on Netflix. And I don't know, you guys, Carrie seems really problematic. And then there's more.

01:07:44.120 Like, already they're having a negative reaction because it's not woke. And they talk the way

01:07:48.860 we've all been talking forever prior to the past year.

01:07:55.300 Did you like that show?

01:07:56.380 Yeah, I enjoyed it thoroughly.

01:07:59.180 Did you?

01:07:59.580 It made me laugh. It was fun.

01:08:01.240 Why?

01:08:02.180 I don't know. I just hated it. I wasn't, I never liked it. I never got into it. It was

01:08:06.660 like a show that always just rubbed me the wrong way. And it's weird because I grew up

01:08:12.160 in that time when it was like, all my friends had the martini parties and the, and the Cosmos

01:08:18.560 and all of it. And I never, I never got into it.

01:08:21.500 I was, I didn't like the reboot where it was all woke-ified and annoying. Go ahead.

01:08:26.700 Okay.

01:08:27.400 No, I'm, I'm in the middle. I was a hate watcher of Sex and the City. And, uh, I considered

01:08:32.180 a lot of it a guide to maybe how not to live. Um, but depending on the character, I mean,

01:08:38.380 I also love Real Housewives, but I'm not like taking life, life tips from it.

01:08:43.180 But I think, I think we should, uh, wait to see with Gen Z here because

01:08:47.380 Gen Z, there are young people who love friends. That's why it took off on Netflix. Right. And I

01:08:53.580 think some of that may be a longing for a time where you don't have to police your own thoughts

01:08:58.660 at every single second, because that conversation they had at the table was fairly tame. It wasn't

01:09:04.080 disrespectful. And what it was, was kind of like a, what's exactly going on here? Am I allowed to

01:09:09.080 ask questions? That's the thing people don't feel like they're allowed to do anymore. And a lot of

01:09:12.860 Gen Z is bothered by that. Even if they do it sort of quietly being bothered by it, maybe this is

01:09:17.800 their revolution. Yeah. I don't know. Are we talking about Gen Z or are we talking about like

01:09:23.320 Gen Alpha? Like I don't know. Maybe a little younger Gen Z is, but I don't know. Members of

01:09:27.720 Gen Z. The older Gen Zers. Yeah. Yeah. I think the younger Gen Zers are sick of woke. They've had it,

01:09:33.340 but I think the older Gen Zers are hashtag the problem. The older Gen Zers are the younger

01:09:40.200 millennials. I always felt like, well, that's the same, that's the same general group, right? I

01:09:44.580 mean, I just think those are the lecturing ones who want to change everything and want to pretend

01:09:48.320 that we were never politically incorrect. And you know, all that, like the lecturers, like,

01:09:53.260 I don't know if they're going to enjoy this or not. I, what I loved about it is I loved the scenes

01:09:57.600 of New York city. I loved the fashion. I thought it was funny. Like that was clever dialogue. I think

01:10:03.040 bias just to what it was like a pause on the, on the bridge to gaydom, you know? Like, yeah,

01:10:08.560 I think most women I know if they're dating a guy and he says, I'm bi, they're like, you're gay.

01:10:13.420 That's like, bi is just something gay men say to make it sound like less shocking. Um, these are

01:10:19.980 feelings that a lot of people have and they weren't afraid to say them. It's only today's day and age

01:10:23.880 that you have to like guard your opinions. Like there's something wrong with the way you feel

01:10:28.320 about these issues, which are unsettled and unsettling. Yeah. It's weird. I've been doing comedy

01:10:35.680 a lot in Austin, which is a younger, more, um, left-wing crowd. And they do seem like they're

01:10:43.460 loosening up a little. So maybe because the culture is loosening up, maybe you age out of some of your

01:10:49.960 obnoxiousness. I was, I always joke that I was like AOC in my twenties. Um, I, I don't know if

01:10:57.540 they're just getting older. It does, it does seem like they're, they're wanting to laugh and

01:11:04.420 loosen up a little bit and let go of some of that, um, annoyingness.

01:11:10.700 Yeah. I mean, I think the good news is that because there's a younger generation who does

01:11:14.920 seem to be like more the younger Gen Z or alpha that does seem to be more open to free speech

01:11:20.240 ideas and conversations that eventually being the speech police might become choogy as the

01:11:25.180 children say. Um, and it will be out of style, which is what we're looking for.

01:11:29.760 I see it even with the teens, they seem to be reacting to a lot of the like woke quote unquote

01:11:35.180 woke wokeness, the younger ones, alpha and whatnot. And they seem like they're pretty chill. So I'm

01:11:41.800 hoping maybe I think if people do jump on it and make it problematic, it will just be for clicks and

01:11:48.720 cloud chasing. The, um, I guess it depends on where you live because I would say for sure where we are

01:11:56.400 in Connecticut, where I'm seeing a blowback to woke, you know, among younger kids and, uh, my friends

01:12:02.460 who have college kids, they'll talk about how they're just over it even at the college level.

01:12:07.020 But, um, there was this piece in the New Yorker talking about the meltdown in a liberal town.

01:12:13.540 Uh, and that town was Amherst, Western mass. I don't get the joke because they say,

01:12:19.340 do you print, isn't it Amherst? Because they, they say the only thing silent, they say, yeah,

01:12:25.500 a joke you hear a lot is that in Amherst, only the H is silent. I don't know if that's a joke on

01:12:30.360 like the message, the Boston accent, Amherst, whatever. Amherst. They're having a problem at

01:12:36.580 their middle school. And this for people like that, I think the three of us was completely

01:12:40.820 predictable. I mean, you read this and you're like, sure. Yeah, this is exactly how it would

01:12:46.800 go down where there's a, there's been a complete meltdown. It's a very lengthy piece, but it's about

01:12:53.000 how it's about trans students and their annoying parents versus black administrators who apparently

01:13:01.680 haven't been supportive enough of their trans expression. And of course the trans students are

01:13:09.420 saying, you know, you need to support me in a firm and the black administrators and their allies are

01:13:14.260 saying, you people are racists. This is what happens when a black person gets into power,

01:13:19.920 especially a black woman. And they're eating their own. They're killing one another. Everyone's

01:13:25.280 losing their jobs, you know, and of course then predictably in another lane, like, uh, Abigail

01:13:30.040 Schreiber's recent, recent, recent book, uh, bad therapy. You've got the trans student who the more

01:13:34.640 kindness and like dark, darkly lit room comforting spaces. You provide this kid, the more depressed

01:13:43.760 the kid gets, it doesn't help you lean into this kid's unwellness. And so does the kid. It's just,

01:13:50.560 it's everything that we talk about when it comes to woke, woke ology manifesting in the absolute

01:13:56.640 explosion of this middle school and its administration. And what do I see in here?

01:14:01.860 Nothing about how are the kids? Okay. Are the kids learning? This is all about adults and their

01:14:07.820 stupid infighting over these issues. So what did you guys make of it?

01:14:13.120 Katie Herzog had a great tweet and she said, this is an amazing glimpse into what happens when liberal

01:14:18.160 white people with, we believe science posted outside their craftsmen homes are confronted with

01:14:22.520 actual diversity. And I think that is exactly what you're seeing. And anyone who's been in this space

01:14:28.820 and has been in the discourse could see this coming from a mile away. Yeah. The thing is,

01:14:36.540 it's like a hierarchical fight. Okay. Where they're forced to choose what's more important,

01:14:42.280 the trans thing or the black thing, because that that's what they're really looking at. And they're

01:14:47.860 frozen with fear. No, it's an ideology of division inherently, right? If you do a privilege walk

01:14:55.880 in your college freshman class, where you step forward, if you have two parents and you step

01:15:00.400 back, if you had a single mom and you'd go forward, if your parents had a college education or whatever

01:15:04.960 the whole point of it is at the end of it, you're all standing in separate places. You all see very

01:15:10.460 clearly how divided you are. That is the opposite of the philosophy. When I was a college freshman,

01:15:15.760 when we all called the dogs together at the university of Georgia, and that was how we

01:15:20.140 found common ground. And then you have your bowl sessions in your college dorm room and you learn

01:15:24.860 things from each other because you're experiencing different people without getting this as your first

01:15:30.920 introduction. And that now is how students must interact, right? It's like your thing that makes

01:15:38.880 you different and is the thing that has cachet. And if you don't have that thing and you're not

01:15:44.500 emphasizing that thing, which hopefully is like a disorder of some kind, I feel like that's sort

01:15:48.580 of a bonus. Uh, then you have nothing, right? You're just, Oh, are you just like a normal white

01:15:53.840 chick? That's not going to work for you. And so it, it really incentivizes some very bad stuff for

01:15:59.620 students who are for kids who aren't fully formed. And these, these adults are enabling all of it

01:16:05.360 to the detriment of everyone. That was the crazy part in that college application essays with,

01:16:11.900 I came from a happy home with two parents who loved each other and us and taught us to love

01:16:17.340 each other and America. Where does that work to get you in? That's the diversity hire now.

01:16:22.820 Yeah. Yes. That goes on the trash pile guys. Yeah. That's like Liberty, you know, it's sad,

01:16:30.880 but it's true. Anyway, this is such a great example of what will happen if you focus on identity and

01:16:37.460 whether it's your race or your gender or whatever it is, you will implode, you will implode badly.

01:16:43.800 Everyone will lose their careers, including your most favored races and sexes. And like,

01:16:48.720 no one will be spared because it's, it's headed for destruction. It's, it's a mutually assured

01:16:54.020 destruction game because eventually you run out of white Republicans to blame. And you're going to be

01:16:59.160 stuck only with other woke liberals who also are members of privileged classes and catastrophe will

01:17:05.060 follow. So might as well give up the game now and get back to merit, get back to merit. Um,

01:17:10.880 this brings me to a thing I've been trying to get to all week. There was a piece speaking of women's

01:17:15.820 basketball, as we did at the top by someone named Lindsay Schnell, who happens to be white and Lindsay

01:17:23.020 wanted to weigh in on women's basketball and the race of the biggest players in it. Caitlin Clark

01:17:30.940 is the biggest star in the, uh, headed for the WNBA. She's now at Iowa and, um, she's projected

01:17:37.860 number one overall, but there are two up and comers who are a year younger than she is, or maybe more.

01:17:44.980 I think they're a year younger who are now going to be the new faces of, um, of basketball. There's,

01:17:51.000 uh, Juju Watkins, who's the nation's second leading scorer after Caitlin. And then there's Notre

01:17:58.080 Dame point guard, Hannah Hidalgo, who's the other favorite for freshman of the year. Okay. So she's

01:18:02.900 a little younger. This is what Lindsay concludes, not lost on any of the power brokers in the game.

01:18:09.360 Both of these up and coming players are black and in a game built by black women, it matters that the

01:18:16.720 faces of the future look like the faces of the past. She's openly saying, I'm really glad Caitlin

01:18:25.460 Collins or sorry, Caitlin Clark. I made that mistake is moving on because she's white and it's

01:18:31.320 pissing me off that we don't have a black face as the star of women's basketball because of faces of

01:18:39.380 the past. How insane is this? What if white people took this attitude in, I don't know, baseball or

01:18:47.280 lacrosse? Um, you could go down the list. This is so offensive and her disgusting racism against her own

01:18:55.080 race will be given a total pass MK because it's anti-white, which is fine. No, I think you're

01:19:03.160 right. It will, it will get a pass. It's disgusting. It's fairly open about being disgusting. And the

01:19:07.400 thing is, look, Caitlin Clark's just really, really good guys deal with it. That J is fire, uh, to,

01:19:15.060 to throw it back, but like, she's really, really good. But here's the thing. Angel Reese is black.

01:19:21.300 And we talk about her in conjunction with Caitlin Clark all the time because they are an intense

01:19:27.100 and interesting rivalry between two really good athletes. And a lot of the blowback on this seems

01:19:34.020 to be like, so women's sports is getting, or women's basketball is getting all this attention.

01:19:38.680 And then you're having all these conversations about, uh, whether the sportsmanship is good

01:19:42.780 enough and, and is Caitlin the goat or is the, someone else need to be considered. And you know what

01:19:47.780 those sound like? They sound like the conversations that dudes have about men's basketball all the

01:19:52.500 time, right? You're, this is just making it for women's sports. This is what it looks like. It

01:19:57.360 looks like controversy. It looks like polarization. It looks like a bunch of people who aren't necessarily

01:20:01.280 always nice dropping a bunch of really amazing shots. Congratulations. She's lamenting Bridget as

01:20:07.260 women's basketball grows in popularity, white players get the most attention that really do they,

01:20:14.680 or is it just this one white player who happens to be incredibly good? Yeah. I mean, didn't she score

01:20:21.000 more points than men or women in a recent game ever? I, I, I don't know. I'm the three, the free,

01:20:29.340 the start. She did the three point competition with Steph Curry. I watched this with my kids.

01:20:33.580 She was right behind him. He won, but it was tight. She was respectable and no one could have any

01:20:41.960 reaction to that other than props to her. Unless you're a lunatic, like Lindsay Schnell lamenting

01:20:48.200 how as the sport grows in popularity, the white players get the attention.

01:20:53.340 This is the most I've ever heard about women's basketball ever. So I do think like, I agree.

01:20:59.420 It's progress that we're even having this controversial. I'm not really watching women's

01:21:04.980 basketball. And I've, my father was watching it the other night and I was like, Oh, that's really

01:21:10.660 cool that you're into this game and you want to know who's winning. That is, that's amazing.

01:21:17.580 My, my, my EP tells me it's Sabrina Ionescu who did that Steph Curry thing. I see all white people

01:21:23.800 the same. I confuse them for one another. That's, that's my racism. But my point is like, this girl

01:21:28.520 was amazing. So why wouldn't we cover this girl, Sabrina being able to hang with Steph Curry? Does it

01:21:33.240 count that she was up against a black man? Do it like, is that, does that need to like, does that make

01:21:37.980 this woman feel any better? Like, why must we factor in there? And you look at the WNBA, I'm going

01:21:43.840 to guess that there are mostly black faces. So who cares if there's, so there's a couple of white

01:21:48.400 women who are actually doing really well in that. Great. Good for them. I mean, it used to be that

01:21:53.380 tennis was entirely white. And then we got wonderful players, like very talented black players who were

01:21:59.080 featured nonstop. There's an, I don't remember, uh, Lindsay writing an article about how we really

01:22:05.540 needed to change. Um, you know, she was relieved that in a game built by white women, it matters

01:22:11.840 that the faces of the future continue to look white. Where's that piece, Lindsay? Nowhere because

01:22:16.940 no, no one other than an abject racist would say such shit, but you get away with it. If the targeted

01:22:22.260 group is white, I'm sick of it. All right. Last but not least, you know, some of us used to worry

01:22:27.820 about the pants that would give us what we used to affectionately call plumber's ass, right?

01:22:34.960 You don't want to like, you lean over unless you're Monica Lewinsky at the white house as an intern,

01:22:39.600 you do not wish to show your thong or your butt crack upon leaning over until now. The latest

01:22:46.480 fascist fashion trend is this is according to the cut with full frontal nudity now played out

01:22:52.260 to drum up the same level of attention. They've become accustomed to celebs have gone

01:22:57.800 in search of a fresh take on the provocative attire intentionally flashing some inter gluteal

01:23:04.680 cleft, but cleavage, they call it. And it's all the rage. They go through the number of celebrities

01:23:12.760 who are engaging in this because I guess now it's not enough to be basically nude. Look at this.

01:23:21.880 Is that who is that? Oh, my God. That's not even cleavage. That's like her whole butt.

01:23:27.200 It's not enough to be basically nude, you know, on these like little mesh one pieces that these

01:23:31.760 women wear with a teeny tiny thong and a barely there bra. Now we have to openly show ass and

01:23:38.000 ass crack. That's Kanye's wife, of course, never wanted to shy away from showing her naked body.

01:23:42.220 So is this a trend you can get behind Bridget? I mean, this is a trend that was is just coming

01:23:48.840 back. I'm a 90s kid. This was like all the rage. We had the low rise jeans and the tramp stamps and

01:23:55.600 the whale tail. Yeah, this was a 90s thing. I was there in the 90s. Oh, it was totally a 90s thing.

01:24:01.320 No, we showed by crack. Tramp signs were all the rage.

01:24:08.120 Come on, back me up. The tramp stamp goes above the crack. It does. It does. But the whale tail,

01:24:14.220 the whale tail was the whale coming out of your pants. So technically, the butt crack was a little

01:24:19.960 covered, but it was a suggestion, certainly more than a suggestion of that. Not that I indulged in

01:24:26.020 it because I think this is dumb. I don't think your butt crack looks great out for everybody.

01:24:31.320 Didn't Alexander McQueen? No, he had the whole fashion thing. And it was like a big deal

01:24:36.920 because he it made your I loved the low rise jeans because I'm super short and it made me look taller.

01:24:42.900 It was incredible. So I had them with like right around the hips. Okay, I'm very interested now that

01:24:48.420 you've become a mother, whether you feel the same, because I don't know any mother who can wear low rise

01:24:52.960 jeans. No, I'm not wearing low rise jeans now. But I did when I was super like in my teens and

01:25:00.740 20s. Yeah, you can't wear them. I wouldn't wear them now. And I can't. But have you seen the shorts

01:25:05.700 these teen girls are wearing? They're not shorts. They're like a belt. Yeah. It's the tiniest thing.

01:25:12.840 They let it all hang out. I'm against this. I think the ass should be kept covered. It should be

01:25:18.160 something private. I don't really view it as like all that sexy. I don't know. It brings up a lot.

01:25:24.600 You see the ass. You think about a lot of things. It's not just sex. I'm not sure if that's hot.

01:25:29.080 Yeah. Well, and a low a low back, like an extreme low back dress is really hot. But it's like once

01:25:35.320 you go all it's like, why the suggestion is the sexy part? Like, let's just leave it where it is.

01:25:41.900 Those days are gone. I mean, Bianca Sensori is a great example of it. Like the her latest pictures

01:25:46.760 out in the Daily Mail with Kanye. That woman, she doesn't wear clothes. I mean, I can look like

01:25:51.680 Beyonce beyond Bianca Sensori tomorrow. What I'm going to do is I'm to put on an old pair of my legs

01:25:58.180 pantyhose nude. And then I'm going to grab a pillow off the couch and hold it in front of my

01:26:04.400 boobs. And then I'll look just like her. I don't understand. Like any woman can do this,

01:26:09.520 but she gets this attention because I'll tell you exactly what's happening. He's letting the

01:26:13.760 paparazzi know where they can see her. He's making her into what looks like a porn star. And that's

01:26:19.460 what, you know, this is after Kanye went on Tucker's show and railed about how he was so upset about

01:26:26.540 those pictures of his wife, Kim, because he found Jesus and he no longer supported those kinds of

01:26:32.900 pictures of his wife. And now he's got the new wife and he's whoring her around every restaurant

01:26:39.260 in the world and calling the paps because he wants us to see her vag more than her ass crack

01:26:46.000 and her boobs. It's so exploitative. He's got an album coming out. Kanye always does crazy stuff

01:26:52.940 before an album comes out. This is like, he definitely has an album coming out when this

01:26:57.920 nonsense starts happening around him. I'm like, Oh, Kanye is in the news and he's doing crazy stuff

01:27:03.980 and he's exploiting. She always looks like a hostage and all of the pictures. It looks like

01:27:09.440 it looks like he just put something on the bed and is like, all right, this is what you're wearing.

01:27:15.060 Get into it. Look, I get, he's made her a star. We know her name. I never knew her name before she

01:27:21.120 married Kanye and started doing this, but I'm tempted. Like I thought a few times, I'm not

01:27:25.780 going to do this, but I thought, what if I actually did this? I could, I could put this outfit on. I

01:27:29.900 could, I'm holding it together. Okay. For 53, I could put this outfit on and I could go to dinner and

01:27:34.620 guess what? I would be all over the daily mail too. Is this fulfillment in life? Like for people to

01:27:39.400 oogle you while you're basically naked in public, is that a win? Is that a big accomplishment?

01:27:44.640 Like any woman virtually, not any, but like virtual, a lot of women could go out naked to

01:27:51.680 dinner and get press. It's like, they're desperate for attention. They stink of desperation.

01:27:58.480 Yeah. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. I did. I did, uh, had, have a memory triggered because we're all

01:28:04.300 old and dusty as we've discussed, uh, of going into like a, uh, a gas station or a drug store and

01:28:10.100 getting that little egg of pantyhose in an emergency. Like when I had to be dressed up for

01:28:13.860 a job interview. Yes. Maybe he should sell those. You know what? Maybe this is all like a prelude to

01:28:21.360 launching a competitor to skims, Kim Kardashian's undergarment. If that's true, I'm actually going

01:28:26.320 to be respectful of it. I'm actually going to be impressed that he lured us into this business,

01:28:29.660 but I think Kanye's got his own clothing line already. He probably doesn't need a new one.

01:28:35.700 Ladies. What a pleasure. I hope you have a great weekend. Thank you. Thank you. I think we solved

01:28:41.540 all the problems. Clearly. I'm feeling good about it. MK Ham and British Bridget Phetasy to be

01:28:47.420 continued. See you again soon. Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:28:59.660 We'll see you again soon.

The Megyn Kelly Show - April 05, 2024

Beyonce's Feminism and Insecurity, and Young Women Finding Good Men, with Mary Katharine Ham and Bridget Phetasy ｜ Ep. 759

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