The Megyn Kelly Show - Biden's Cognitive Decline, America's Reckoning, and CNN's Ratings Slide, with Dennis Prager and Buck Sexton ｜ Ep. 720

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at New East.

00:00:12.300 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.360 We got two great guests for you to discuss some of the big stories impacting our country and the world.

00:00:21.300 In just a little bit, I'll be joined by Buck Sexton.

00:00:23.480 We've got a deep dive into a story many are whispering about,

00:00:26.020 the real and obvious mental decline of President Joe Biden.

00:00:30.800 We've put something together for you on that, but we begin with one of my favorites,

00:00:35.300 what is happening in our society and the problems plaguing it.

00:00:38.420 And there's a lot that could go under that banner.

00:00:40.760 Joining me now, Dennis Prager, host of The Dennis Prager Show and co-founder of PragerU.

00:00:47.860 Dennis, welcome back to the show.

00:00:49.500 Always good. Thank you.

00:00:51.440 So good to see you.

00:00:52.280 All right, so I'm going to start a little bit out of left field, but nobody's going to be talking about it.

00:00:57.400 Marilyn Mosby, the former Baltimore prosecutor who was after those six cops for what she said was the murder of Freddie Gray back in,

00:01:09.980 what was it, 14, 15, is going to prison.

00:01:14.080 She's going to prison herself. 1.00

00:01:17.100 And this is part of a pattern that we're seeing with either soft on crime DAs funded by George Soros,

00:01:24.600 who don't want to prosecute crime, but you really just get elevated because they're going to advance his lawless agenda.

00:01:31.060 And they all tend to check certain identity boxes and others like members of the squad who are proving to have disgraced themselves.

00:01:40.200 So Marilyn Mosby, just as a refresher, when the country was burning, it was Ferguson and then Freddie Gray in Baltimore and they had riots and the cops were getting bottles thrown at them and beaten up without the proper gear. 0.70

00:01:54.860 She went out there and a prosecutor has an ethical obligation not to inflame the mob, not to. 0.60

00:02:01.260 And this is what she said back in the back in the day.

00:02:05.040 Watch to the youth of this city.

00:02:08.080 I will seek justice on your behalf.

00:02:11.320 This is a moment.

00:02:12.860 This is your moment.

00:02:14.340 And as young people, our time is now.

00:02:18.580 OK, this is our moment.

00:02:21.220 This is this is your moment.

00:02:22.600 OK, so after those cops, they were either hung juries or they got acquitted.

00:02:27.680 She would not let up on them.

00:02:29.100 She just kept coming.

00:02:29.880 Justice is always worth the price paid for its pursuit.

00:02:34.800 You see, in spite of the fact that the verdicts didn't go in our favor, there have been many gains throughout this journey to ensure that what happened to Freddie Gray never happens to another person.

00:02:44.620 Never again should an officer ignore or neglect a prisoner's request for medical attention.

00:02:51.040 Never again should an officer exhibit a blatant or reckless disregard for human life.

00:02:56.660 Long story short, Dennis, turns out she did a legal sleight of hand on some covid mortgage funds, and she has now been convicted of one count of mortgage fraud for lying on financial documents.

00:03:14.800 She tried to game the system to get a mortgage, and she had already been convicted on two counts of perjury in a separate criminal trial that took place in November.

00:03:25.260 She's not yet been sentenced, but she stood there in court sobbing as she as she was convicted by this jury.

00:03:32.920 She now technically faces decades in prison. 1.00

00:03:35.860 She could serve anywhere up to 40 years in prison. 0.73

00:03:38.540 That's highly unlikely.

00:03:39.800 But this person is likely going to jail.

00:03:41.660 This is we had a report last week that Cori Bush of the squad is under investigation for funny business respect with respect to her husband allegedly paying him.

00:03:51.120 This is what we think more than was allowed as her so-called security guard.

00:03:57.860 Fannie Willis down in Georgia is now under ethical review by at least three different bodies by my count for allegedly paying her lover more than the other co-prosecutors and being dishonest about it. 0.99

00:04:13.420 OK, we could keep going.

00:04:14.520 But it seems to me, Dennis, there's somewhat of a reckoning going on right now with some of these people being put in these positions who had no business being there.

00:04:24.560 And the fact that they're going down based on ethical violations is seems particularly apt because while in these positions of power, it's not it doesn't seem to me that ethics has been at the top of their concerns when they've used the power as a U.S.

00:04:41.900 Congresswoman, as a D.A. in Georgia, as a D.A. in Maryland, I could keep going in the way that the founders envisioned.

00:04:50.800 That's my wind up.

00:04:51.860 What do you make of it?

00:04:54.440 So I have a darker view of this than you do in one way and a lighter view in another.

00:05:01.740 The issue to me is the personal integrity of public leaders has never been a preoccupation of mine.

00:05:09.980 When you have the power of a public official, how you use that power is infinitely more of concern to me than how you lead your own personal ethical life.

00:05:21.940 I remember in the 1990s, I wrote a I wrote a column, adultery and politicians.

00:05:29.260 And I said, you know, I'm against adultery.

00:05:32.300 Personally, I'm a religious man.

00:05:34.300 But I don't really give a damn if a politician has been faithful to his wife.

00:05:39.560 It's between him and his wife and between him and his family and between him and his God.

00:05:44.120 All I care is how he affects the 300 million Americans at the time I wrote it was more like 250 million Americans and the world.

00:05:53.360 That's why I have no interest in the statements made about Donald Trump and his alleged character defects.

00:06:01.440 All I know is that for four years, the United States prospered on Earth and domestically during his governance.

00:06:10.260 Jimmy Carter was a born again Christian, was faithful to his wife, and he was a horrible president and he damaged the world and he made up the lie that Israel is an apartheid state.

00:06:21.140 So I just have to tell you the personal ethical shortcomings or or for that matter, even excellences of public officials is of secondary interest to me.

00:06:34.260 Where's the is that the happy part of the sad part?

00:06:38.180 Good one.

00:06:39.140 That was that was that was very astute of you, both, because listen, my field of study was Soviet history.

00:06:49.740 I studied Russian.

00:06:50.900 I was the Russian Institute of Columbia.

00:06:52.720 So I've studied the left all of my life.

00:06:55.260 Lenin was was apparently quite honest to the best of my recollection.

00:07:00.200 And and he was a butcher.

00:07:02.880 He was the man who made Stalin possible. 0.75

00:07:05.020 The life is complex.

00:07:08.560 And again, if you have power, I care how you wield your power much more than I care about how you lead your life.

00:07:15.300 As I whenever I go to Minnesota, which is frequent, I frequently I I note that Minnesota, there's a saying in Minnesota called Minnesota nice, which is actually accurate.

00:07:29.460 But there are so many nice people in Minnesota, the damage that Minnesotans do with the horrible human beings they they elect proves how often nice people do terrible things.

00:07:41.880 So that's it's one of the sad realizations of life.

00:07:46.720 So I don't agree with your take on on these prosecutors and the troubles that they're getting in, because I don't see these as just this isn't like just an affair.

00:07:56.260 Fannie Willis, very few people are coming after her because she allegedly committed adultery with this guy. 1.00

00:08:01.800 That's not the thing.

00:08:03.300 The thing is, many of us believe she's pursuing an unethical prosecution, weaponizing the law to stop a presidential candidate from winning a presidential race. 0.93

00:08:13.560 And this this is unethical. And so to me, it's just evidence of a pattern when you then find out, oh, she's also allegedly stopping the guy and paying him more than she's paying the other guys.

00:08:25.140 And then he's flying her to Napa and then down to Jamaica and buying her, you know, cruise tickets.

00:08:32.520 All of it fits a pattern. And she falls below the ethical standards required of D.A.'s, which is to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

00:08:40.560 Same with this Marilyn Mosby. I lived it. I watched her go out and fan the flame.

00:08:45.360 She didn't give two dams what happened to the cops in Baltimore as they were under fire from those mobs down there who had been fed lies about what happened to Freddie Gray.

00:08:58.400 She never let up on those cops, even after juries acquitted them and said they're not to blame for this.

00:09:04.720 And now we find out she's not an ethical person. Two different juries have said so. Multiple felony convictions now.

00:09:13.860 She's the one who's going to wind up in jail. Meanwhile, where do the cops go to get their reputations back? 1.00

00:09:19.440 We're seeing some just desserts meted out. And I'm ready to applaud the karma of it all.

00:09:27.720 Oh, I applaud the karma. I'm with you on that. All I'm saying is that if these people, if leftists were personally honorable, the damage they have done to society is the same.

00:09:43.140 And therefore, that's what preoccupies me about the left. Everything they touch, they ruin.

00:09:48.520 Whether they are personally honorable or not is not high on my interest level. That's all I'm saying.

00:09:55.440 All I want, I want to crush. There is a race in this country. If the left wins, America dies. If America wins, the left dies. 0.96

00:10:06.160 That's that's to me the bottom line and frankly, the only line.

00:10:11.320 Is it still winnable?

00:10:12.600 Yeah, it is still winnable, believe it or not. If if they allow Trump to win, if there is no new disease, if there is no cyber attack, if they don't make up a new rule about extending election day four months instead of four weeks.

00:10:34.400 I mean, the the the attempt to undo honorable elections is very powerful on the left.

00:10:42.040 But but if they enable the Republican to win and by the way, they preoccupy themselves with Trump, but they hated DeSantis.

00:10:51.780 And if DeSantis were nominated, they would have spoken about him as a fascist dictator, as they already do about him as governor of Florida.

00:10:59.280 So this this this preoccupation with Trump is phony. They hate any conservative and they have a right to because we are the only thing stopping them from ruining the country.

00:11:12.280 What happens if Trump loses? That's a real question.

00:11:16.540 I mean, what what actually will happen if Joe Biden, Joe Biden, not not Michelle Obama swooping in Joe Biden and Kamala Harris win another term?

00:11:23.860 Well, again, it's to me, once again, it is irrelevant what Democrat it is. 0.90

00:11:30.060 Let's say it's Adam Schiff is Adam Schiff, who, by the way, I think is is literally a pathological liar. 0.93

00:11:35.560 I don't think I've ever called a public official in 40 years of broadcasting a pathological liar. 0.94

00:11:41.100 That man does not know the difference between truth and a lie, which is very frightening.

00:11:46.720 People who know they're lying, there is hope for them.

00:11:49.200 People who don't, there is no hope for them.

00:11:51.120 Adam Schiff is, I believe, a bad human being, but it doesn't so it doesn't matter.

00:11:56.200 Name me a Democrat, a prominent Democrat who would not allow the left to ruin the country, who would not be in favor of of of having medical schools and and the entire psychological and psychiatric apparatuses ruin children's lives.

00:12:14.580 If they say, you know, parents just lost their, I think, 10 year old daughter who said she was a boy or boy said she was a girl.

00:12:21.840 I don't remember which it is. They literally took the child away from the parents in Montana.

00:12:27.100 That's Montana. We have the parents on the show. We have the parents on the show.

00:12:30.220 Oh, well, bless you. Good.

00:12:31.500 Well, so tell me a Democrat who was opposed to that, maybe one prominent senator or representative or member of the cabinet who.

00:12:39.860 So that's why it's irrelevant to me, whether it's Kamala Harris or Joe Biden, it is it is of no consequence.

00:12:46.440 If they win, the the American future is truly in doubt for the first time and since the Civil War.

00:12:54.900 I mean, I'll give you one sign of hope since we're exchanging glimmers.

00:13:00.200 There were those. It was a handful of lawmakers in New Hampshire that crossed party lines.

00:13:06.020 The Democrats, some Republicans went the other way, but the Republicans made up the majority of those voting in favor of this bill.

00:13:12.640 And the difference was made by the Dems who crossed the aisle to vote with them to ban the medicalization of kids claiming that they're gender confused to ban these surgical procedures.

00:13:23.920 Well, if you want a bright possibility that I'll tell you what I do, which I recommend to everybody on on our side, I read the New York Times.

00:13:35.360 It's what it's a an act of martyrdom on my part on behalf of my my my listeners and readers.

00:13:42.020 Anyway, I read it. I read it every day.

00:13:44.060 And I what I make sure to read are comments, because the only people who can comment on a New York Times piece are New York Times subscribers.

00:13:52.460 That's how I really know how liberals and the left are not the same, how liberals and the left think.

00:13:58.180 So they had, to my great surprise and pleasure, they had a gigantic article about about the transitioning young people, people who regret that like this girl who had her breasts removed when she was 17 or 18 years of age by some despicable surgeons and psychologists and psychiatrists and children's hospitals. 0.94

00:14:21.360 That's another story. I looked at the comments, I looked at the comments, I looked at the comments, I looked at the comments, there were I think 3000 comments, I always check off readers pick.

00:14:29.840 So I want to know what are the most popular comments on a given article.

00:14:34.300 I couldn't even find one that differed with the article, every single popular comment on in the New York Times among its readers was this is disgusting what is happening to kids.

00:14:48.440 They, this, if there is an Achilles heel for the left, it may in fact be the mutilation of children in the name of the lie that you can become a member of the other sex. 0.97

00:15:07.440 That may have been the line, as you point out in New Hampshire, a bridge too far.

00:15:14.680 That's the thing is, I just think it's bringing, it is definitely bringing, this is an issue, the gender thing, bringing left and right together.

00:15:23.320 And it starts there with the medicalization of children who probably in most cases have no gender dysphoria, no gender confusion whatsoever.

00:15:31.220 They're just confused about life and they're depressed or they're on the autism spectrum and they're, they're not really gender confused.

00:15:37.940 But beyond that, the, you know, men and women's sports is, there's a story every day about that, that people can see with their eyes, the fundamental unfairness of it.

00:15:49.620 Men and women's spaces, you know, coming into our locker rooms, our bathrooms, the guy up in Canada, you know, completely naked and intact male with 12 year olds in the locker room. 0.52

00:16:01.160 It's not just Canada. Happened in Michigan in a locker room there with schools. It's happening. A girl was, of course, sexually assaulted down in Virginia by a guy in a skirt.

00:16:10.500 There's a, there's plenty of cases that we could document.

00:16:13.140 But I do think that's separate and apart from the issue of whether you believe a man can become a woman. I don't. 0.90

00:16:20.020 But it's separate and apart from that issue. These fundamental issues of fairness tend to be ones that we're starting to meet each other on.

00:16:26.920 I don't, I can't think of another area in which we're doing that, Dennis. Not, you know, some of the other gospel on the left is collapsing because it's collapsing, but not because we're meeting each other.

00:16:37.700 And not only that, not that, not one of those commenters in the New York Times is going to stop voting Democrat because of this.

00:16:46.680 Yep.

00:16:46.940 See, the, the, I, I say over and over the American tragedy is the liberal. The left vote their values. Conservatives vote their values. Liberals do not. Liberals vote left wing when their values are so much more similar to conservatives.

00:17:04.840 And if, if, if liberals voted their values, there would be no possibility of Democrats winning elections. That's the tragedy of America. Liberals do not vote according to liberal values.

00:17:19.900 You're right.

00:17:20.860 Do they, do they, do they really support two national anthems at the Superbowl? Why isn't that as, as dispositive an issue as, as the mutilation of children?

00:17:33.860 We have two national anthems for which we stand at a Superbowl since when, what is the, what is the moral defense of that?

00:17:44.100 Yeah, no, that's been happening. Of course, since George Floyd lift every voice and saying the so-called black national anthem gets paid, gets played right after the real national anthem.

00:17:52.380 And it's like the, the song is about national unity and E pluribus unum and nothing else. Like it's the, the song says it all. There's no need for an addendum.

00:18:03.200 All right. Like that's the very nature of it.

00:18:07.120 Well, we're, we're one nation again. I, I have coined the term many years ago called American Trinity. Christianity has a Trinity. So does America.

00:18:18.900 And it's on every coin. I didn't make it up. I just made up the term E pluribus unum in God, we trust liberty. And the left is opposed to all three. They, they have no interest in, in God, we trust that they want a purely secular education system, secular society, not just secular government. We're all for secular government.

00:18:44.300 But they want the society to be essentially godless and Bible-less. E pluribus unum. They're for black dorms, black graduations, blacks lining up in different lines in elementary schools. 0.94

00:18:57.880 And they are for black national anthem at the Super Bowl. And liberty, there is no example in the history of the left, from Vladimir Lenin to, to Bernie Sanders, of, of having the left allow dissent. 0.68

00:19:14.120 That liberty is, that liberty is, is the opposite. Look, the French Revolution was the leftist revolution. And the American Revolution was the conservative revolution. And the French Revolution immediately slaughtered tens of thousands of Catholic priests. It was one of the first things that it did. And of course, it ended liberty. That's, that's the paradigm of the left. The paradigm of the right is the American Revolution.

00:19:41.280 I think you may have called attention to this. I saw it on X the other day. And I lived it myself when I lived in Chicago on September 11th. You know, the outpouring of patriotism when it was, it was not just okay to be unabashedly pro-America. It was a staple. It was still a staple. It was the expected norm.

00:20:04.720 And these freaks who hate the country were just that freaks. But it was Sammy Sosa after September 11th.

00:20:12.180 Yeah, I brought that out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw you, you remarking on it online. It's September 27th, 2001. Chicago Cubs versus Houston Astros. He hit the home run. And as he's rounding first, someone gave him a little American flag. Let's look at it.

00:20:27.600 Yeah, I got the chills. I have the chills. Yeah. He held it as he ran the bases. Everyone on their feet. I have the chills right now.

00:20:36.560 It's a black American. It was Dominican, but black, black American. Yep. Yep. 0.98

00:20:43.360 It just seems like all the rage is the other way now.

00:20:46.420 If you showed that to a kid today, they might think it was a colorized video from the 1940s.

00:20:54.820 Yeah. I got, that just made me sad, you know, not, not because of September 11th in that particular clip, but just how far we've fallen.

00:21:03.140 You know, it's only been about 20 years and how far we've, I don't, I don't know.

00:21:07.820 I mean, I know the leftist university professors have gotten us here and the leftist takeover of media, you know, the, the iPhone.

00:21:15.500 I feel like I have to mention, you know, just the distance from one another.

00:21:19.940 Ironically, given what it actually does as a function, I, I do worry that in 20 years, we won't be back to the Sammy Sosa's of the world, even if we have a Trump presidency.

00:21:30.020 That's right. All I know is though, I get this at every speech.

00:21:33.920 Dennis, are you optimistic or pessimistic? And my, my most honest answer is the one I give.

00:21:40.300 I have no interest in optimism or pessimism. The optimist doesn't fight and the pessimist doesn't fight.

00:21:46.780 Because they both have reasons not to fight. The optimist thinks things will turn out well, why fight?

00:21:52.220 The pessimist is sure things will turn out lousy, why fight? I don't care if people are optimistic or pessimistic.

00:21:58.360 I only care if they fight. And I, I, I owe it to every guy buried at Normandy beach to fight.

00:22:04.740 They, they fought Nazi submachine guns. Uh, I'm not fighting submachine guns.

00:22:10.160 I'm just fighting hate that Prager, you and I get all the time on, uh, virtually every day.

00:22:16.580 I, I open up my, my Google alerts. If I were a drinking man, I would always drink a little prior, but I have no interest. I, my vice is cigars. So I take, I have a cigar and I read by the Google alerts.

00:22:34.620 And one, oh, Prager and PragerU, they're both fascists. I mean, it's unbelievable. You know how often I'm called an anti-Semite? I've written the most widely read introduction to Judaism in the English language. 0.65

00:22:47.880 I have a Bible commentary out there on the Torah and I, and they call me an anti-Semite because they can't imagine if you're conservative, you must be neo-Nazi. This is the simple mind of the, of the left-wing human being.

00:23:01.460 Well, while you're reading those comments, I hope you keep in the back of your head. I know you think about all the people you've helped, but just keep in mind, yours truly is one of them. I'm a huge fan of PragerU and of Dennis Prager himself.

00:23:12.860 And listening to you talk about these core issues, it really is life-changing. If you spend a lot of time over on PragerU, your eyes will open. So keep that in mind.

00:23:20.880 Speaking of fighters and these issues starting to turn, the kid who was wrongly called a racist by Deadspin, the nine-year-old Kansas City Chiefs fan, remember he had the half the face was in black and half the face was in red.

00:23:38.880 And he had the Native American headdress on. And the Deadspin writer just completely excoriated this kid, called him a racist, said he, quote, hates black people and the Native Americans at the same time. Look at this. This is so disgusting what this writer did.

00:23:57.740 And it was a lie. It was a lie. He didn't show the audience that the kid actually had half black, half red, which is a chief's thing, Kansas City Chiefs. 0.99

00:24:07.540 And he publicly humiliated this nine-year-old totally unnecessarily and unfairly.

00:24:13.020 And finally, Dennis, they've sued. God bless the parents of this boy.

00:24:17.480 They have filed a lawsuit against the parents of this boy, have filed a lawsuit against Deadspin and its parent company for maliciously and wantonly attacking their minor child, quote, by selectively capturing from the CBS broadcast an image of our child showing only one side of his face with black paint on it, an effort that took laser-focused precision to accomplish, given how quickly the boy appeared on screen, Phillips and Deadspin deliberately omitted half of his face with red paint on it.

00:24:47.480 He did not wear a costume headdress because he was, quote, taught hate at home, which was the claim.

00:24:53.460 He wore it because he loves the Kansas City Chiefs football team and because he loves his Native American heritage.

00:25:01.640 And by the way, they go on to say, after this lie was told intentionally to hurt this kid, they received death threats.

00:25:12.500 Their child received death threats, threatening to kill him with a wood chipper.

00:25:18.180 On it went.

00:25:19.280 And I think three years ago, this family would not have filed the lawsuit.

00:25:23.060 They would have been too afraid.

00:25:24.060 And look at them now.

00:25:26.460 Oh, yeah.

00:25:28.120 It's driving the left nuts.

00:25:30.580 They own everything.

00:25:32.400 And we're not dead.

00:25:33.580 They don't understand it.

00:25:35.500 And I actually somewhat feel for them.

00:25:38.220 They own the universities, the high schools and elementary schools.

00:25:43.320 They own half of the religions, the non-Orthodox Jews, the non-evangelical Protestants, the non-traditional Catholics. 0.87

00:25:52.340 They own the whole medical industry.

00:25:55.040 Medical schools have become so woke that I actually fear for the competence of doctors in the next generation.

00:26:01.260 They own United Airlines, which has announced that it's reserving half of its pilot spots for women and blacks, which is very reassuring for flyers like myself who live on airplanes.

00:26:15.700 They own it all, but we're alive and we're fighting.

00:26:22.260 And it does.

00:26:23.360 I actually think they lose more sleep at night than we do.

00:26:26.600 It's an odd thing for me to say, but I do believe that.

00:26:29.940 When they call this kid a racist and so on, when they call the Washington Redskins, do you know?

00:26:37.620 I mean, that kid is simply a prototype of the bigger issue.

00:26:44.260 Do you know that the Washington Post commissioned, the Washington Post was in the vanguard of demanding that the Washington Redskins change their name because it was anti-Native American, anti-American Indian.

00:26:55.460 And they commissioned this very elaborate poll of American Indians, of Native Americans.

00:27:03.020 Overwhelmingly, they said, and this was reported in the Washington Post, by the way, to its credit.

00:27:09.020 One of the rare times I could say that about the Washington Post.

00:27:12.160 And they reported the overwhelming majority of American Indians didn't give a damn about the name Redskins.

00:27:19.260 Mm-hmm.

00:27:20.080 Right.

00:27:20.720 Of course, it's all Upper West Side woke liberals.

00:27:22.920 Yes.

00:27:25.560 The—and I'll tell you where it emanates from.

00:27:27.820 This is really important.

00:27:30.280 Overwhelmingly, people on the left are empty.

00:27:33.980 They're devoid of love of country.

00:27:36.260 They're devoid of religion. 0.84

00:27:37.560 So two of the biggest things that gave people meaning, God and country, give them no meaning.

00:27:43.740 So they have to search for meaning.

00:27:46.120 So they create things to fight, like the nine-year-old, like the Washington Redskins, like the Cleveland Indians, like Israeli colonialism. 0.59

00:27:56.220 They make up evils because their lives are essentially empty inside.

00:28:03.340 They need to find meaning.

00:28:05.520 They find what you and I might find meaning—meaningful.

00:28:10.860 I know this from music, which is my other field in life, because I conduct orchestras periodically.

00:28:17.960 In the early 20th century, when people with no talent could not do anything Beethoven, Brahms, Schubert, Schumann, Haydn, Bach did,

00:28:29.020 what they decided to do was to write music with no tonality, which you could write.

00:28:34.460 And when I could write, that's easy to write.

00:28:37.880 When there's no tonal and no harmonic and no melodic bass, it sounds.

00:28:43.940 That's all it is.

00:28:45.180 It's the same overwhelmingly with contemporary art.

00:28:49.240 You put a banana peel up on the wall in the Guggenheim Museum and call it art?

00:28:53.520 Like, by golly, I could do that, too.

00:28:57.860 The—it's no accident that there is an article out now.

00:29:01.520 It's out of San Mateo, Jose—San Mateo County, San Jose, California.

00:29:06.940 First county in the country to recognize loneliness as a public health emergency.

00:29:15.220 The supervisor—the board of supervisor there, the head of it, has actually written a letter to Governor Gavin Newsom requesting that he appoint a minister of loneliness in California.

00:29:25.440 They have one in England.

00:29:27.080 This is something they've done.

00:29:27.480 The UK has a ministry of loneliness.

00:29:30.300 Yep, they've done it in England.

00:29:31.960 And something similar is going on in Japan, where they're going to have a task force creating policies addressing loneliness and social isolation.

00:29:38.680 I look at this, and I understand.

00:29:40.400 I see what they're talking about.

00:29:42.160 It's not like I haven't read the stories.

00:29:44.800 But I think you just tapped into what's at the heart of it.

00:29:48.140 And I don't think the minister of loneliness is going to be saying anything about God or love of country.

00:29:55.500 That's right.

00:29:56.220 That's right.

00:29:57.640 The highest rate of depression in young American women and girls since data have begun being recorded.

00:30:06.860 But every article on it in the mainstream press always says, well, what we need is more mental health professionals.

00:30:15.660 No, no.

00:30:16.100 What we need is more meaning.

00:30:18.360 And meaning in American history, when people were much poorer, was derived from a book called The Bible, which is never offered as a possibility for rectifying this problem.

00:30:31.940 Are religious people as depressed as secular people?

00:30:35.340 No way.

00:30:36.400 By the way, just out of curiosity, who is more likely to say men give birth, secular people or religious people?

00:30:44.280 The consequences of secularism are never delineated in the mainstream media or in our schools, but they're devastating.

00:30:52.900 Well, there was another stat I read recently showing young girls are getting more and more liberal and young boys are getting more and more conservative.

00:31:02.220 And I don't think that's completely unrelated to the spikes.

00:31:07.340 It's not the entire explanation in anxiety and depression among young girls.

00:31:12.360 These woke leftist teachers take advantage of their natural empathy, try to make them take on all of America's past sins as if they're present day and project them onto themselves, walking around feeling guilty and bad and calamitous about climate change.

00:31:28.900 And I think girls in general are more tender hearted at that age and let it all in and they're exploited by these evil teachers who don't care about what they're doing to these kids psychologically as they remove God from the classroom, as they remove the flag from the classroom, except for the LGBTQ flag.

00:31:48.100 And boys are just getting completely crushed for being boys and they're in a revolt and looking for a team that still finds them acceptable people.

00:31:59.600 That's right. Well, there's one other thing with regard to the girls.

00:32:03.440 Not only were God and religion removed from their lives, but so is marriage as a key component in their life. 0.96

00:32:10.280 The feminist statement from when I was in college, a woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle, even if it's not repeated word for word, that is exactly what young women are taught. 0.99

00:32:24.920 Here's a beauty for you, Megan. You'll love this.

00:32:27.340 And I want you to try it next time you have a waitress or you're in line at the airport or sitting next to a young woman.

00:32:33.800 So I have no, I have no compunctions about asking people anything.

00:32:38.820 So let's say I'm with a woman who's obviously under 30. 1.00

00:32:42.780 So I say, so, and we're in line going to the, going onto the plane or she's my waitress. 0.97

00:32:48.080 I've been asking this for about 25 years. Can I ask you a question? Of course they say yes.

00:32:52.880 Okay. So I'm going to offer you an option.

00:32:56.080 I'm offering you two guarantees. And I want you to understand that if you, you choose one, but it doesn't mean the other cannot happen.

00:33:06.060 It only means that it's not guaranteed. Which guarantee would you take a guarantee of a great marriage or the guarantee of a great career?

00:33:15.300 It's really interesting to ask young women this and it's about high school. It's not even a question.

00:33:21.680 Overwhelmingly, it'll be career, but even, even at 25 years of age.

00:33:26.760 So anyway, just for the record, it's 50, 50. What is also interesting. You can't, I can never predict it.

00:33:33.620 The woman may have a whole bunch of tattoos and say great marriage. 1.00

00:33:37.340 She may look quote unquote clean cut and she says career. There's no, there's no predicting it's, but it, it, it, every parent should say to their daughter.

00:33:49.700 And I, I, I pushed this on my radio show for decades. You must not only push career. You must push marriage.

00:33:58.480 My darling daughter, you will be happier with a good man in your life.

00:34:02.580 Yeah. Well, I talked to my daughter about it. We, we both do. And I always tell her, I'm like yards, get yourself a man who treats you the way dad treats me.

00:34:11.840 Don't settle for less. And then we, we hope we're modeling that, you know, like we're very loving and supportive of each other.

00:34:17.520 He takes care of me and I take care of him. I think she'll just see it and want it. I think my boys will see it and want it, you know, cause they grew up in it.

00:34:23.960 I've said to them before, after being born in the United States of America, uh, their, their greatest advantage in life is being born to a mother and a father who really deeply love each other.

00:34:33.800 It's such an advantage. American privilege, not white privilege, American privilege and two parent privilege.

00:34:42.700 Yeah. So I want to show you something that we found out of Planned Parenthood. They're going a different way.

00:34:51.840 You won't be surprised to hear on their messaging to our young girls. The whole thing is worth Googling to the listening audience and watching because you really can't quite believe this person, but it's long. So we cut it up a bit. Watch this.

00:35:09.340 Virginity is a completely made up concept. It's a term that was created simply to control and shame people, mainly women. 0.99

00:35:19.220 A virgin is someone who's never had sex, but it's not as simple as it seems. For one thing, medically, virginity isn't a real thing.

00:35:30.800 Generally speaking, society tends to define sex in a very narrow way. Penetration, penis into vagina. 0.99

00:35:38.840 But where does that definition leave queer people? It's time to throw away the notion of losing your virginity. 1.00

00:35:45.240 What if instead of losing something, we reframe it as gaining?

00:35:49.440 But here's the one truth you should remember. Sex is defined by one thing and one thing only. You.

00:35:56.120 Okay. We cut out the most absurd parts of that, where she was talking about how not everybody has penis and vagina sex. 1.00

00:36:06.680 And then she starts going through anal and oral and fingers. 1.00

00:36:10.460 And I mean, this is like the little video for the 12 year old girls about virginity. 0.99

00:36:14.220 Well, that would mean then that gay people are, by that definition, virgins throughout their lives. 0.94

00:36:25.380 Remarkable. 0.87

00:36:25.820 There's like, she gets deep into the hymen and tampons. 0.95

00:36:29.500 Like, oh my God, why is, why does she feel the need to redefine virginity and try to make it, I don't know. 1.00

00:36:37.200 She wants, I guess she wants to overrule Catholicism where there's like some guilt about getting it on too young and before you're in love.

00:36:44.360 And technically before you're married, that seems to be a very anti-Christian message to me.

00:36:48.760 Well, how's this?

00:36:55.380 I'm not a betting man.

00:36:57.360 Gambling is not one of my instincts.

00:36:59.940 So if I bet, I'm sure I'll win.

00:37:03.420 I would bet a serious amount of money that this is not a happy human being who made that video.

00:37:10.280 Wait, say that again. Say it again, Dennis.

00:37:12.440 I would bet a lot of money that this was not a happy woman, this woman who made that video. 0.91

00:37:18.760 Hey, you could be right.

00:37:22.160 Yeah.

00:37:22.620 I mean, to think that.

00:37:25.500 And somebody who might still have her virginity.

00:37:28.580 Yeah.

00:37:29.720 Okay.

00:37:32.140 I thought you were choking me up.

00:37:35.560 Just saying, why does she feel so strong about getting rid of that term? 0.70

00:37:38.860 Unclear.

00:37:39.260 Yeah.

00:37:39.700 Oh, God.

00:37:41.120 Yeah.

00:37:41.640 Yeah.

00:37:42.240 Okay.

00:37:42.580 So that's that.

00:37:43.040 Now, let's shift and talk about some politics and some Middle East stuff, because I know

00:37:48.040 this is a cause near and dear to your heart.

00:37:50.260 And there's a couple of things going on right now.

00:37:52.540 It's official that the bill in the Senate, the 60 billion for Ukraine, the money for Israel

00:37:58.440 and the money for the border, it's dead, not happening.

00:38:01.060 And right now, we're not sure exactly what that means.

00:38:04.700 In the meantime, Israel tried once again to negotiate a ceasefire with Hamas.

00:38:11.280 And Qatar was feeling really good about the chances.

00:38:16.140 I guess when Qatar told Joe Biden about the deal, he didn't seem as optimistic.

00:38:21.940 Here he is trying to say something about something on Tuesday.

00:38:26.200 There is some movement, and I don't want to, I don't want to, well, maybe choose my words.

00:38:36.700 There's some movement, there's been a response from the, there's been a response from the opposition.

00:38:51.960 But, yes, I'm sorry, from Hamas. 0.99

00:38:58.100 But it seems to be a little over the top.

00:39:02.340 We're not sure where it is.

00:39:03.600 There's a continuing negotiation right now.

00:39:06.460 Oh, my God.

00:39:08.200 Okay.

00:39:09.160 Just to finish off the news headlines there, it didn't work.

00:39:12.460 It's been rejected by Netanyahu.

00:39:14.640 It was a terrible deal.

00:39:16.140 Of course, they said, in order to get your hostages back, you have to end the war immediately, full withdrawal of all the forces.

00:39:22.840 We'll have a couple, a few 45-day truces where we get a bunch of our prisoners back, and you get your hostages back, as though that's exactly the same thing.

00:39:32.240 In any event, not happening.

00:39:34.200 Your thoughts?

00:39:34.600 Well, first, I just want to comment on the president, and I make no mockery here at all.

00:39:42.820 There's nothing to mock.

00:39:44.540 I mock the media.

00:39:46.620 If this were a Republican president who was so obviously incapacitated, it would be headlines constantly.

00:39:56.500 They would invoke the Constitution to remove the person from office because it's just not competent.

00:40:04.000 And basically, almost nothing is said if you read or if you listen to NPR or read the New York Times or Washington Post.

00:40:13.600 It's embarrassing before the world that we have.

00:40:16.760 I don't think there's another national leader who is so obviously mentally incapacitated in so many ways.

00:40:26.580 As regards this, look, the issue is enormous.

00:40:31.420 What is very distressing is the incapacity of a serious percentage of Americans to perceive what is evil.

00:40:43.880 I've spent my life studying good and evil because good is as big a riddle as evil.

00:40:49.260 In fact, I think goodness is somewhat of a bigger riddle.

00:40:52.060 I understand Nazis better than I understand the people who try to hide a Jew during the Holocaust at the risk of their lives. 0.73

00:41:00.820 Goodness is a puzzle.

00:41:02.280 But I've studied good and evil all of my life.

00:41:04.740 And the non-confrontation with evil, I've always said evil is always called dark.

00:41:14.260 But the truth is, it's very bright.

00:41:16.980 People cannot stare at it.

00:41:19.260 People were not prepared to call communism evil during the Cold War.

00:41:23.360 You were called a cold warrior when Ronald Reagan said that the Soviet Union was an evil empire.

00:41:29.120 He was excoriated by every major newspaper in the United States.

00:41:32.720 Oh, how could we call them evil?

00:41:34.540 We don't know.

00:41:35.200 Who are we to say evil?

00:41:36.380 What is evil?

00:41:37.700 And now you have this.

00:41:39.580 There was no more obvious good and evil as Israel and Hamas. 0.99

00:41:43.660 If one does not understand that that is a division between good and evil, then one's conscience is broken, is simply not working.

00:41:54.780 And that's a very scary thing, that that is dominant.

00:41:59.880 Now, what is it?

00:42:00.680 Forty-five percent of young people don't side with Israel or something to that effect.

00:42:06.380 Yeah.

00:42:07.440 We have a broken moral compass in this country.

00:42:12.860 That is what the left has done.

00:42:16.720 The left has broken the conscience.

00:42:19.080 That's the scariest thing that they have done, probably.

00:42:25.200 On the other end of that deal, as I point out, Ukraine's not going to get its funding.

00:42:29.440 And there's not a lot of appetite in the United States to continue that, certainly not within the Republican Party.

00:42:34.900 In the midst of that, Tucker Carlson flies to Russia and announces that he's interviewing Vladimir Putin, who my audience knows I've interviewed three times.

00:42:47.680 And it was fascinating stuff.

00:42:49.500 And I really enjoyed going to Russia.

00:42:51.020 And I really enjoyed the Russian people.

00:42:52.500 And Vladimir Putin is a very fascinating character, to say the least, but probably the most controversial in the world today, or at least one of them.

00:43:01.060 And so, Tucker announces that he's doing it.

00:43:05.980 And there we are.

00:43:07.660 And there's a complete media meltdown about the fact that he's doing it.

00:43:14.660 Now, he did say some controversial things already in promoting it, that no journalist had attempted to do it.

00:43:20.620 Actually, here we have a bit of that at Sod 8.

00:43:22.660 Watch.

00:43:23.960 Here's why we're doing it.

00:43:25.800 First, because it's our job.

00:43:27.520 We're in journalism.

00:43:28.820 Our duty is to inform people.

00:43:31.820 Two years into a war that's reshaping the entire world, most Americans are not informed.

00:43:37.500 But they should know.

00:43:38.800 They're paying for much of it in ways they might not fully yet perceive.

00:43:43.540 The war in Ukraine is a human disaster.

00:43:46.180 This war has utterly reshaped the global military and trade alliances.

00:43:50.880 And yet the populations of the English-speaking countries seem mostly unaware.

00:43:54.700 They think that as nothing has really changed.

00:43:57.420 And they think that because no one has told them the truth.

00:44:01.460 Their media outlets are corrupt.

00:44:03.520 They lie to their readers and viewers.

00:44:05.860 And they do that mostly by omission.

00:44:07.780 And they have done scores of interviews with Ukrainian President Zelensky.

00:44:11.460 But the interviews he's already done in the United States are not traditional interviews.

00:44:15.460 They are fawning pep sessions.

00:44:17.220 That is not journalism.

00:44:18.580 It is government propaganda.

00:44:19.840 Not a single Western journalist has bothered to interview the president of the other country

00:44:24.320 involved in this conflict, Vladimir Putin.

00:44:27.960 Most Americans have no idea why Putin invaded Ukraine or what his goals are now.

00:44:32.300 They've never heard his voice.

00:44:34.060 That's wrong.

00:44:35.780 Americans have a right to know all they can about a war they're implicated in.

00:44:39.740 We are not here because we love Vladimir Putin.

00:44:42.380 We are here because we love the United States.

00:44:44.920 So a lot of journalists pointed out that they have requested multiple times to interview

00:44:52.480 Vladimir Putin.

00:44:53.360 It's not an easy get.

00:44:54.680 That's for sure.

00:44:56.140 But what's more interesting to me is the freak out on the left that he's even doing it.

00:45:01.980 You know, I had this myself.

00:45:03.320 I had this actually when I interviewed Putin the first time before he invaded Ukraine.

00:45:08.500 I certainly had it when I interviewed Alex Jones, who's nowhere near as controversial

00:45:12.800 as Vladimir Putin.

00:45:14.220 But the meltdown was catastrophic over here.

00:45:18.460 And we're seeing it again.

00:45:20.100 Here's a little bit of that on Morning Joe responding before we've even seen the interview.

00:45:24.960 Watch this.

00:45:25.300 Somebody that we know, that we used to know, going over, doing Vladimir Putin's bidding,

00:45:33.600 attacking Western journalists, saying if only Western journalists would have come over here

00:45:39.660 and tried to even report fairly on the war.

00:45:44.160 Well, there have been Western journalists that have gone over and tried to report fairly on the war.

00:45:54.140 And they're in jail.

00:45:55.540 They're in gulags right now.

00:45:57.440 Yeah, he'll let a certain kind of journalist in for an interview, but not the ones who ask the questions.

00:46:01.820 And I assure you, NBC and every other news organization in the Western world has a request in for an interview

00:46:07.360 with Vladimir Putin.

00:46:08.880 So it's not for a lack of trying.

00:46:10.620 OK, so I will give them the point that journalists have tried.

00:46:16.320 But if you just Google this, the left wing is very upset that he's platforming Putin.

00:46:23.400 They're guaranteeing that he will ask no tough questions because his coverage of Putin hasn't been completely pro-Ukraine.

00:46:30.080 What do you think?

00:46:32.400 Well, I would be very curious to know if Tucker Carlson or any other prominent person on the right

00:46:39.260 went to interview, or for that matter, a prominent person on the left went to interview the head of Hamas in Qatar,

00:46:47.880 where they live in their billion-dollar splendor, would there be an outcry?

00:46:54.720 I mean, if the issue is you don't interview evil, is it only applicable to Putin or is it applicable to Hamas?

00:47:03.380 But on the left, Hamas is not evil.

00:47:07.080 So it would be—I would find it very interesting to know how they would react to that.

00:47:15.140 I think Tucker Carlson, his stature—and he has a lot of stature—but I think that it's—he's taking a risk,

00:47:26.640 and it may be a very noble risk—I'm not using risk as a pejorative—but he has to ask some very

00:47:33.140 difficult questions as well. He has to ask about the reporter that they just showed a full-page ad

00:47:40.740 with regard to who was incarcerated on no good grounds. It would be worthy for him to ask about

00:47:48.900 the opposition to Putin that all of a sudden seem to disappear and die premature deaths.

00:47:56.760 So if he excoriates those who interviewed Zelensky as pep sessions, that's his word, 0.64

00:48:05.180 then he can't do the same thing with Putin. But otherwise, I think it is important that

00:48:11.320 that somebody does an interview with Putin. Personally, I have vigorously supported Ukraine

00:48:21.020 in this matter. I have two other positions, however. I think that we should have pursued peace

00:48:29.040 as vigorously. When Boris Johnson went to squelch possible peace, that was a very bad thing.

00:48:35.980 I was not happy about that. We need to try for peace there. I am worried about how much we have

00:48:45.660 in weapons because the Democrats have so shattered defense budgets over the last decades. So there

00:48:52.900 are very real issues at stake here. Yeah, there's a lot of reason to be concerned about the pocketbook

00:49:00.220 and where our money has gone in the funding of Ukraine and where it would continue to go if

00:49:05.920 we continue to fund it, none of which has been fully answered. I understand the consternation

00:49:11.000 on both sides. Such a pleasure, my friend. Great to see you, Dennis Prager. You're the best.

00:49:17.140 Mutual.

00:49:19.060 Let's do it again. Okay, when we come back, Buck Sexton joins the program. Don't miss that.

00:49:24.080 You often hear people say that when they listen to an old speech or debate clip of President Biden,

00:49:33.960 it's startling. Age slows down most people. But remember, his staff and his closest allies want

00:49:39.660 you to believe he's still the same old Joe, so quick on his feet and in his thoughts that even

00:49:44.100 much of the younger staffers can't keep up with him. Sure, Jan. So we decided to go back and compile

00:49:50.920 some old clips. Thought it might be interesting for you. Because even as of the 2020 election cycle,

00:49:56.220 he sounded very, very different. First one is from 1993. Then Senator Biden was on the Senate floor

00:50:03.660 giving one of his most impassioned speeches. He was about 49. Interestingly, the topic was about the

00:50:10.000 Senate's tough on crime bill, eventually signed into law by President Clinton. Mr. Biden warned

00:50:15.520 of, quote, predators on our streets and worried openly about his family's safety.

00:50:21.580 It doesn't matter whether or not they're the victims of society. The end result is they're about to knock

00:50:27.640 my mother on the head with a lead pipe, shoot my sister, beat up my wife, take on my sons. 0.99

00:50:34.360 So I don't want to ask what made them do this. 0.99

00:50:40.000 Hmm. Obviously, the startling change there is not solely related to how robust Biden sounded.

00:50:47.580 Fast forward 19 years to the 2012 election, when then Vice President Biden took part in a debate

00:50:53.880 against Mitt Romney's running mate, Congressman Paul Ryan. He was quick on his feet in this exchange.

00:50:59.960 It has never been done before. It's been done a couple of times. It has never.

00:51:03.880 Jack Kennedy, lower tax rates, increased growth. Ronald Reagan. Oh, now you're Jack Kennedy.

00:51:07.220 Ronald Reagan. With all due respect, that's a bunch of malarkey.

00:51:14.200 Despite Paul Ryan being nearly 30 years younger than Joe Biden, one headline the next day was,

00:51:19.520 quote, Joe Biden's alpha male display leaves Paul Ryan overwhelmed. All right, that's a lot much.

00:51:26.800 Four years later, a 72-year-old Vice President Biden went to bat for Hillary Clinton in her race

00:51:32.860 against Donald Trump. He ended one speech with a rousing call to action.

00:51:36.920 In America, we never bow. We never bend. We endure. We move forward. We are America and we are second to

00:51:48.520 none. That is the history of the journey of this country. And God willing, Hillary Clinton will write

00:51:55.460 the next chapter of that history. So go vote. Go vote.

00:52:01.220 Hmm. Eight years ago. Then came 2020. During the Democratic primary race, Julian Castro and Senator

00:52:08.680 Cory Booker gingerly questioned Mr. Biden's mental acuity, but both went on to endorse him.

00:52:15.020 On the debate stage with then-President Donald Trump, Mr. Biden had some notable sparring moments.

00:52:20.520 Your party wants to go socialist medicine. My party is me. Right now, I am the Democratic Party.

00:52:26.760 And they're going to dominate you, Joe. You know that. I am the Democratic Party right now.

00:52:30.820 Our suburbs would be gone and you would see problems like you've never seen.

00:52:35.020 He would know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn.

00:52:37.460 He made a fortune in Ukraine, in China, in Moscow.

00:52:40.560 That is simply not true. And various other places.

00:52:42.680 He made a fortune, gentlemen. My son. And he didn't have a job.

00:52:46.100 My son, like a lot of people, like a lot of people you know at home, had a drug problem.

00:52:51.380 The fact is that everything he's saying so far is simply a lie. I'm not here to call out his lies.

00:52:56.140 Everybody knows he's a liar. But you agree. I just want to make sure. 0.98

00:52:59.220 Joe, you're the liar. I want to make sure. 0.99

00:53:01.340 You ordered last in your class, not first in your class.

00:53:04.660 I want to make sure.

00:53:06.020 Mr. President, can you let him finish, sir?

00:53:07.360 No, he doesn't know how to do that. He has.

00:53:09.600 You'd be surprised.

00:53:10.420 You'd be surprised. The wrong guy, the wrong night at the wrong time.

00:53:15.560 There are many reasons why, if both men are their party's respective nominees,

00:53:21.800 we will not see a debate like that later this year.

00:53:24.800 But one of the reasons is certainly Mr. Biden's facility with words and ideas.

00:53:30.080 The very first year he became president, it was obvious he was in rapid decline.

00:53:35.380 During a press conference in June 2021, he whispered over and over during his remarks.

00:53:41.760 I got them $1.9 trillion relief so far.

00:53:49.060 They're going to be getting checks in the mail that are consequential.

00:53:52.940 I wrote the bill on the environment.

00:53:57.260 Pay them more.

00:54:00.140 This is an employee's, employee's bargaining chip now.

00:54:05.500 What's happening?

00:54:08.460 Wow.

00:54:09.400 In 2022, he called out during a speech for a congresswoman who had died a month earlier in a car crash

00:54:16.740 and seemed to almost malfunction at other times.

00:54:21.740 Representative, Jackie, are you here?

00:54:24.340 Where's Jackie?

00:54:25.400 I think she was going to be here.

00:54:27.560 Much more informed on the motives of some of the political players and some of the political parties.

00:54:49.540 We're going to seize their yachts, their luxury homes, and other ill-begotten gains of Putin's kleptocracy and the guys who are the kleptocracies.

00:55:07.540 Fast forward to present day.

00:55:09.880 In the past few weeks, the president has at times been completely incoherent during not one but several speeches.

00:55:17.820 Beer brewed here.

00:55:18.960 It is used to make the brew beer here in the final.

00:55:23.520 Oh, Earth Rider.

00:55:24.760 Thanks for the Great Lakes.

00:55:25.880 I wonder why he's talking about that.

00:55:27.420 Don't mess with the men in the air unless you want to get the benefit.

00:55:31.880 Asylum officers and over 100 cutting-edge inspection machines to help detect and stop fentanyl coming across our southwest border.

00:55:44.300 It's sad.

00:55:45.740 It feels wrong.

00:55:47.600 We butted some of these soundbites together so you can hear the decline over the years in quick succession, which we think brings it home.

00:55:55.720 Take a listen. 0.98

00:55:57.180 The end result is they're about to knock my mother on the head with a lead pipe, shoot my sister, beat up my wife, take on my sons. 0.96

00:56:05.720 Jack Kennedy lowered tax rates, increased growth. 0.97

00:56:07.720 Ronald Reagan.

00:56:08.160 Now you're Jack Kennedy.

00:56:09.120 In America, we never bow.

00:56:12.420 We never bend.

00:56:14.620 We endure.

00:56:15.800 We move forward.

00:56:17.320 We are America and we are second to none.

00:56:20.620 Your party wants to go socialist medicine and socialist health care.

00:56:25.120 And they're going to dominate you, Joe.

00:56:27.160 You know that.

00:56:27.780 I am the Democratic Party right now.

00:56:29.800 I'm much more informed on the motives of some of the political players and some of the...

00:56:47.960 Beer brewed here.

00:56:49.480 It is used to make the brew beer.

00:56:51.880 It is defined.

00:56:53.660 Oh, Earth Rider.

00:56:54.880 Thanks for the Great Lakes.

00:56:56.000 I wonder why it's going to be.

00:56:57.580 Don't mess with the men in America unless you want to get the benefit.

00:57:03.700 Joining me now, Buck Sexton, co-host of the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show.

00:57:08.420 Buck, welcome back.

00:57:09.200 Great to have you.

00:57:09.820 I take no joy in offering that up.

00:57:13.140 I don't think it's funny.

00:57:14.980 I'm alarmed.

00:57:16.400 I'm sad for him.

00:57:17.900 If I were married to him, I would say, honey, it's time we exit stage left.

00:57:22.400 I don't...

00:57:23.520 How on earth is he going to make it not just another nine months, Buck, but another five

00:57:29.440 years in this office?

00:57:32.980 Well, Megan, my sense of this, and thank you for having me, is that Biden is effectively

00:57:39.020 a figurehead, that when people are voting, I think he will make it through to the election,

00:57:45.140 and if he doesn't, Kamala Harris will take over for him.

00:57:47.360 I know there are a lot of theories out there about how there's some Democrat plan, but I

00:57:52.000 think the logistics of that are far more complicated than some of the third options that people

00:57:58.240 are discussing, meaning not Joe, not Kamala, something else.

00:58:02.160 It's much more difficult than I think it initially sounds to a lot of folks, or than they initially

00:58:06.740 think it would be, to just replace Joe Biden.

00:58:10.080 He's an incumbent president.

00:58:11.980 He's decrepit and falling apart, yes.

00:58:14.600 And I mean, I share your sense on that, too.

00:58:16.980 I mean, I remember I was very close with my maternal grandfather, and I remember in his

00:58:22.000 final years what it was like to go see him, and Joe Biden actually reminds me of that.

00:58:26.820 But we didn't expect him to be commander-in-chief at the time.

00:58:29.820 We had a very different understanding of what was going on with him.

00:58:34.440 And the people that are in a position to do something about Joe Biden, most notably his

00:58:39.520 wife, I think they view this as his last act of service.

00:58:42.900 I mean, I think if you start to look at this from the other side of the chessboard and the

00:58:47.260 power apparatus of the Democrats, as long as Joe Biden can stay in, he will stay in.

00:58:54.220 And the whole point here is to get beyond the election, they think that he's the best option

00:59:00.040 to defeat Donald Trump.

00:59:01.580 And then it's very likely Kamala Harris will take over, and I think take over very early, 0.99

00:59:04.800 assuming Biden wins, take over very early in another administration, or in the beginning

00:59:10.500 of the administration, I should say, and start her own eight-year trend. 1.00

00:59:14.520 At least that's the plan, right?

00:59:15.800 I mean, she probably wouldn't win after four. 0.92

00:59:18.460 This is very obvious, though.

00:59:19.800 I mean, we've seen this.

00:59:20.720 We're at a point now, Megan, where it's almost, it's too clear, and so people become numb to

00:59:26.400 it, and there's no argument against it.

00:59:28.520 Even Democrats recognize it, but they don't think of it as I'm voting for a CEO.

00:59:32.460 They think of it as I'm voting for Coke or Pepsi, and that's it.

00:59:35.340 It's just the brand and the machinery.

00:59:38.280 Dean Phillips, who's a Democrat trying to challenge Joe Biden, but he's getting the boot on the

00:59:42.400 forehead.

00:59:42.820 The Democrats won't have it.

00:59:44.140 He tweeted out a couple of these videos the other day and wrote as follows.

00:59:47.320 I'm attacked for being honest and saying the quiet part out loud.

00:59:50.720 The part D.C. insiders only do in private.

00:59:53.580 I admire our president.

00:59:54.680 I voted for him and campaigned for him.

00:59:56.500 He's visited my home and been gracious to me and my family and our country.

01:00:00.600 But shame on all of you pretending everything is okay. 0.82

01:00:04.120 You are leading us and him into a disaster, and you damn well know it.

01:00:10.240 Gosh, it's true. 0.85

01:00:11.600 It's right.

01:00:12.360 This is not, it's not so simple, right? 0.90

01:00:14.720 It is, oh, he's going to win and then he's going to step down or die.

01:00:19.260 And Kamala Harris, no one wants her. 1.00

01:00:21.820 No one, no one is electing her to be the president. 0.54

01:00:25.020 That should be made right now.

01:00:26.960 That, that switch, if that's what we're really voting for, should be made right now.

01:00:31.220 They, they talk about how we have to have the Trump trials right now because people need

01:00:35.180 to know what they're voting for.

01:00:36.040 They, they need to know if he's a convicted felon or not before November.

01:00:38.940 Shouldn't we know who's actually going to be president for the next four years, him or

01:00:42.400 her, before we go to the ballot box in November?

01:00:46.480 Well, yeah, absolutely.

01:00:47.760 But that would assume that there's some degree of, uh, of honesty that the Democrat party revolves

01:00:54.720 around, which I just don't think is true.

01:00:56.640 I think we could go into a great detail about how, uh, they are really a party now that is

01:01:02.220 rooted in pretending, especially at election time, they pretend to be something other than

01:01:06.400 that, which they are right.

01:01:07.580 I mean, this, the, the way the Democrats win national elections is to generally have Democrats

01:01:13.360 act more like, uh, centrists or Republicans close enough to the election that they can

01:01:18.560 fool people.

01:01:19.280 I mean, the perfect example of this was Joe Biden in 2020 as a uniter and a guy who would 0.95

01:01:24.920 calm things down.

01:01:26.120 Now he's got multiple DOJ federal indictments of his leading political opponent after four

01:01:32.260 years of the most divisive presidency.

01:01:34.740 I actually think Joe Biden's more divisive than Obama.

01:01:37.000 I mean, I'll say that.

01:01:38.000 I think that the stance that he took on forced vaccination of people over COVID was as one

01:01:43.760 single act.

01:01:44.700 I think more divisive than anything actually Obama did.

01:01:47.220 And I didn't think Obama was a uniter either.

01:01:49.360 Um, so the whole thing was a lie.

01:01:51.780 And I think they're very concerned about that this time around.

01:01:54.560 They're obviously just going to try to throw everything they can at Donald Trump, but the

01:01:58.280 dishonesty of the campaign by no means, in my mind, discounts that this is what they're

01:02:04.440 likely to do.

01:02:05.660 Uh, and, and I think that with Kamala Harris, you see somebody who the system likes her. 0.98

01:02:10.620 I'm, I use the term, the apparatus, uh, for this kind of stuff.

01:02:13.440 You could say that too, but the Democrat, uh, machinery elevated her to be Joe Biden's 0.99

01:02:19.700 vice president.

01:02:20.260 The first Democrat voters didn't want her and yet they made her VP. 0.98

01:02:23.180 It's because she's who, no one, no.

01:02:30.500 Yeah.

01:02:30.860 I thought you were telling me someone wanted her.

01:02:32.780 I'm like, who wanted her?

01:02:33.600 No one wanted her.

01:02:34.240 Um, what was it?

01:02:37.420 Willie Brown out in California.

01:02:38.900 Like he, he wanted her.

01:02:41.660 That's it.

01:02:42.340 You know, it's something that, uh, you could see actually, you know, she was very popular.

01:02:46.660 I mean, this, she was very popular in the CNN green room.

01:02:50.120 Um, you know, there, there are Democrat news anchors that I think like the virtue signaling

01:02:54.940 points they get from talking about how great Kamala Harris is, but that was before we saw

01:02:58.520 the degree of the degree of, I'm not just talking about incompetence.

01:03:01.920 Like no one thinks that she's a particularly, um, bright or astute person.

01:03:05.340 Let's just honestly.

01:03:06.140 Um, but the idea was, well, she can play the role and she can make people like her and she 1.00

01:03:11.920 can be somewhat chameleon-like in her politics. 1.00

01:03:14.700 And that's all been a total sham as well.

01:03:17.380 Um, they couldn't even give her fake, make-believe jobs and roles like borders are without creating 0.62

01:03:23.600 massive political liability for themselves.

01:03:26.100 Tense.

01:03:26.660 You don't even hear about, think about this.

01:03:28.360 Look where we are with the border.

01:03:29.420 Can you imagine if Kamala was still being called the borders are, I mean, it would be

01:03:33.240 nothing but further disaster to her already plummeting brand.

01:03:37.240 Um, but that's, that's why I think for them, it has to be, uh, Biden.

01:03:41.920 Um, and that's why I've said this all along and I know this, Megan, I know this is deeply

01:03:46.800 cynical.

01:03:47.480 Okay.

01:03:47.940 I have a bet with, with Clay, my co-host and your and my friend, uh, that this is, that

01:03:54.080 it's going to be Joe Biden no matter what for the Democrats.

01:03:56.700 And I've even said they will wheel him out with a blanket across his knees and a sippy

01:04:02.860 cup on stage if they have to, because people are voting for the name, for the brand, for

01:04:08.220 the system around him.

01:04:10.180 Not for the guy. 1.00

01:04:11.140 Joe Biden's been an imbecile his whole life. 1.00

01:04:12.980 Does Clay think it's going to be Michelle Obama? 1.00

01:04:14.600 Who does he think?

01:04:15.460 Yes.

01:04:15.740 He thinks it's going to be Michelle Obama.

01:04:17.640 Okay.

01:04:18.100 All right.

01:04:18.440 I, I haven't made up my mind.

01:04:19.780 I don't like, I'm not ruling out the Michelle Obama option the way you are, but I, I, if

01:04:24.100 I had to put money down, I'd put it on Biden.

01:04:25.820 Well, we have a big bet on it, Megan.

01:04:27.120 So I got to stick to my guns.

01:04:28.540 I got to tell you, Buck Sexton, for once in your life, you're in agreement with Sonny

01:04:32.800 Hauston.

01:04:33.640 Okay, watch.

01:04:35.540 You guys ask me all the time, well, you can't support Trump.

01:04:38.360 I will not support Trump, but why aren't you just backing Biden?

01:04:41.240 I'm worried Biden's going to lose to Trump.

01:04:43.040 In 2020, when he beat Donald Trump, a potato could have beat Donald Trump.

01:04:46.340 We're in a global pandemic.

01:04:47.800 The economy was a free fall.

01:04:49.420 But you know what?

01:04:50.080 A potato could not have beat him.

01:04:51.680 The one thing that Joe Biden knows is he knows how to run the government.

01:04:55.240 He knows that.

01:04:56.300 And there was nobody else in the pike. 1.00

01:04:58.200 And, and to come out and say, you know, get another candidate.

01:05:01.080 You were, when?

01:05:02.000 There isn't going to be another candidate.

01:05:03.980 Yeah.

01:05:04.280 The candidate is Joe Biden.

01:05:05.800 Yeah.

01:05:06.120 He has run this country well.

01:05:08.320 He has so much to run on.

01:05:10.460 He's got better economy.

01:05:12.520 Inflation, inflation is down.

01:05:15.240 People, job growth.

01:05:16.860 He has a platform to run on.

01:05:18.760 The Republicans have zero to run on.

01:05:20.820 And the best candidate that the Republicans could come up with is Donald Trump.

01:05:26.080 Okay.

01:05:26.620 So I think we've kind of covered the ground in there, but I will say this, never underestimate

01:05:31.700 the ability of the Republicans to screw it up, right?

01:05:34.820 Like, I don't know, like they're the ones who said, we're not giving you Ukraine and Israel

01:05:41.840 aid unless we get, you know, concessions on the border.

01:05:44.960 And then they got him.

01:05:46.040 And I don't think anybody supports this border deal that's taken a hard look at it, but they

01:05:50.100 were like, bye.

01:05:51.460 And we're taking our ball and going home.

01:05:52.820 That's how it's going to play in the media.

01:05:54.100 You know, they're already getting ripped on blowing it up and giving this to Joe Biden

01:05:56.880 as an issue.

01:05:57.620 Secondly, they go ahead, try to impeach Mayorkas, DHS secretary.

01:06:01.840 They fall short.

01:06:03.300 They didn't manage it.

01:06:04.560 They couldn't.

01:06:05.400 It's just every day they are in seat chairs out, you know, kind of leaving head down in

01:06:10.840 disgrace.

01:06:11.400 The RNC only has $8 million left.

01:06:13.160 But it's just every day, Buck, there's I realize they like Trump, but like the Republican

01:06:17.960 Party, they're not totally wrong on the view.

01:06:19.840 And they're like, what are they offering?

01:06:21.020 Because they look like a mess over there.

01:06:23.800 Well, part of it is they haven't been winning.

01:06:26.960 And, you know, we have to look at that with clear eyes.

01:06:31.300 We have to be honest about it.

01:06:32.500 I mean, you have to have the political power to enact the programs and the margins, as we

01:06:38.280 know, to it, especially you're talking about the House and the Senate.

01:06:40.700 So they've got this razor thin majority and smallest majority in the history, I believe,

01:06:45.560 of the Congress.

01:06:46.220 Right.

01:06:46.360 I mean, it's as small as it could possibly get.

01:06:48.720 And then you have a very close to, you know, evenly split Senate.

01:06:53.380 And so there's not going to be some sweeping Republican policy change.

01:06:57.120 To your point, I think that there should be a far more clear, a comprehensive agenda that

01:07:03.380 the Republicans are announcing.

01:07:05.500 And on the straightforward things like the Mayorkas impeachment effort, I actually spoke

01:07:10.660 to the Speaker of the House earlier this week about it after it had failed.

01:07:16.380 And he says, look, we're going to do it next week.

01:07:18.680 He says that there was somebody who wasn't supposed to be there for the Democrats, but

01:07:22.260 was in a hospital gown and slippers.

01:07:24.160 And OK, whatever, fine.

01:07:26.100 At the at the end of the day, the most important thing is that there's a vision for the country

01:07:33.180 that allows them to win in the fall election.

01:07:36.140 Right.

01:07:36.460 I mean, in November is what's going to determine the policies of the country, not, you know,

01:07:42.280 whether or not Republicans can make some stand or do something that is for the optics.

01:07:47.220 But I don't think really changes anything.

01:07:48.560 And just back to the Biden thing for a second.

01:07:51.580 Look, it's I think it's rather straightforward.

01:07:53.320 The polls look awful for Joe and Democrats look like they are just walking toward annihilation

01:07:59.440 in this election, at least at the presidential level.

01:08:02.580 But there are still those polls that show the same polls that show that Trump would crush

01:08:06.900 Biden tomorrow.

01:08:07.660 And I believe that's true if the election were held tomorrow.

01:08:09.960 If he gets convicted in this in this D.C.

01:08:12.460 trial, I just had a caller calling today, Megan, to radio, to a radio show.

01:08:17.320 And I was a little surprised that I voted for Trump twice.

01:08:19.720 I'm excited to vote for him again.

01:08:21.820 But if he's a convicted felon, I don't know if I can do it.

01:08:24.920 I said, wait, hold on this stuff.

01:08:26.940 You really you really feel that way.

01:08:28.200 I was legitimately quite shocked.

01:08:30.700 But the polling shows that that if they can squeeze out a guilty verdict, Trump loses.

01:08:36.440 He loses in all of the swing states.

01:08:38.280 He loses bigly in the November election.

01:08:41.040 So that's a way they change all this around.

01:08:43.680 An old man Biden doesn't really matter anymore.

01:08:46.380 And that's just the trick that they may pull that we already know is coming.

01:08:49.740 Right.

01:08:49.900 There can be other stuff as well.

01:08:51.240 So I just never underestimate the deviousness of the Democrat Party.

01:08:55.960 Good fair.

01:08:56.940 This is why you've got Trump now.

01:08:58.860 Trump, Mr. I'm not going into any of the primary debates.

01:09:01.580 And I know why he didn't.

01:09:03.020 I get it.

01:09:03.860 But the risk in not going to any of the primary debates was that it would be then used against

01:09:08.600 him by Joe Biden, who we all know is not going to want to debate him in the general.

01:09:12.640 So that's why Trump now, even before he's officially secured the nomination, he knows there's not

01:09:18.880 going to be any debates coming up.

01:09:20.660 It has changed his tune and is now saying the following to our pal Dan Bongino in South

01:09:25.260 30.

01:09:25.520 I don't think he's going to run.

01:09:28.100 I don't know if it's donors or otherwise.

01:09:30.700 It might be his family.

01:09:31.700 It might be something.

01:09:33.040 I don't think he's going to run.

01:09:34.740 But I'd like to go for immediately debates.

01:09:37.160 I'd like to debate him now because we should debate.

01:09:39.440 We should debate for the good of the country.

01:09:41.340 So I will officially on your show call.

01:09:44.040 Oh, wow.

01:09:44.920 Look at that.

01:09:46.200 We're breaking news, Mr. President.

01:09:48.560 Donald J.

01:09:49.180 Trump calls for debates against Joe Biden.

01:09:52.160 I mean, that's great.

01:09:52.920 We can talk about these problems, Dan, and get him to change his ways.

01:09:57.020 But I am officially doing that.

01:09:58.480 I also put out, you probably noticed, that I'll take his spot at the Super Bowl if they

01:10:02.380 want.

01:10:02.940 We'll get very good news.

01:10:05.440 Because Biden won't do the Super Bowl halftime interview.

01:10:09.020 By the way, here's Joe Biden responding to the challenge.

01:10:11.840 Watch.

01:10:12.540 Donald Trump's going to debate you right now.

01:10:14.800 Do you accept?

01:10:18.160 He says we're good on radio.

01:10:20.220 He doesn't want to get you immediately.

01:10:22.120 Immediately?

01:10:22.720 Yes.

01:10:23.300 Will you debate him?

01:10:23.800 If I invite him, I'd want to debate me, too.

01:10:26.660 He's got nothing else to do.

01:10:30.320 I'd want to debate me, too.

01:10:31.520 He's got nothing.

01:10:32.100 By the way, note to self, like to the campaign staffers, if you want to make him look like

01:10:35.820 a competent executive who's fully there, stop picturing him walking out of the ice cream

01:10:41.340 store with his chocolate chocolate chip and his little, you know, juice with his straw.

01:10:46.200 Like, what's next?

01:10:48.240 He's like, you know, walking out of the orthopodic, you know, orthopod sneaker store.

01:10:53.680 I don't it.

01:10:54.020 That's not a good look.

01:10:55.760 Look, Biden's been doing this, though.

01:10:57.460 His his entire career is really built on lowest common denominator.

01:11:02.480 Shake the hand.

01:11:03.300 Put on the big grin and pretend that you're one of the folks.

01:11:06.920 You know, he's one of those people.

01:11:08.000 He's always talking about, oh, you know, I'm the folks.

01:11:10.360 I have to say, oh, back to the debate.

01:11:13.020 That absolute hell water of a town.

01:11:15.360 Yeah.

01:11:15.660 You know, I was riding the choo choo into work, you know, good old blue collar Joe.

01:11:19.100 It's like this is a guy who's been begging CEOs for rides on their private jets for as

01:11:24.720 long as he's been in the Senate, by the way.

01:11:26.220 I mean, he's just one of the people use the term grifter far too much these days.

01:11:30.880 Biden and the Biden's are actually grifters.

01:11:33.900 This is one thing that, you know, I think the term has lost a little of its punch because

01:11:37.480 it's now something that people say about other people in the same industry that are

01:11:40.860 more successful than them.

01:11:41.820 Right.

01:11:42.000 It's become a little bit of a term of envy. 0.99

01:11:44.100 But Biden is a grifter.

01:11:46.200 And I would just say, you know, on the Trump call for debates. 0.83

01:11:49.740 Look, I mean, I voted for Trump twice.

01:11:51.540 I'm looking forward to voting for him again.

01:11:53.300 I think he can win.

01:11:54.620 So, you know, I'm a Trump fan.

01:11:55.760 I'm a Dan Bongino fan.

01:11:56.860 Dan's a great guy.

01:11:58.620 But I was worried about this the whole time.

01:12:01.100 I was always saying, if he doesn't debate against Ron DeSantis and the rest, this is

01:12:09.300 going to be turned around.

01:12:10.560 And while people on the right, you know, the Trump voters, they're OK with that inconsistency.

01:12:16.100 No one else is going to see it as something that needs to change now.

01:12:18.860 Right.

01:12:19.080 So I think that Joe Biden is unlikely to see any change in his in his numbers based on

01:12:25.660 his unwillingness to debate.

01:12:27.040 However, his numbers are so bad that he actually may be pressured.

01:12:30.800 Right.

01:12:31.080 So I think that he has a sort of get out of jail free card if he wants it on the debate

01:12:35.760 issue.

01:12:36.660 But I think that as we get closer here, if the numbers don't turn, he's going to have

01:12:41.240 to show up and they're going to give him whatever they give him to make him seem alert and awake.

01:12:45.480 Yeah.

01:12:45.820 And it's like the thing they give the horses, whatever that give those horses, you know,

01:12:49.300 that's illegal right before the big race.

01:12:50.940 And it works.

01:12:51.840 They here's the other thing, though.

01:12:53.540 I mean, we're kind of talking about style and whether they can fight in the verbal jousting.

01:12:58.060 But, you know, that that NBC News poll that just came out the other day, which is showing

01:13:02.980 Trump up on Biden, I think it's plus five and beating him on the economy by 22 points,

01:13:09.620 beating him on crime by 20, beating him on immigration by 35 points.

01:13:13.240 The deal for better, for worse, has collapsed this border deal.

01:13:17.100 And Biden's not going to start putting Trump policies in place, which he could can't do it

01:13:21.360 all.

01:13:21.540 But he can do some of Trump's policies for sure.

01:13:23.280 Same as Trump did.

01:13:24.440 He's not going to.

01:13:25.940 And we're going to get nine months, yes, of Trump on trial, but also of this.

01:13:30.980 Look at this ad that the Trump team just dropped on the border policies.

01:13:36.700 I've seen a lot of ads.

01:13:37.860 This one's pretty damn good.

01:13:39.240 Watch it.

01:13:40.480 Six men have been charging that brutal attack caught on camera.

01:13:43.920 The shocking act of violence.

01:13:45.840 Two NYPD officers beaten in Times Square.

01:13:48.720 All of those arrested were released without bail.

01:13:52.100 Why did these four individuals be released on their own recognizance?

01:13:57.180 The Biden administration is fighting to release as many migrants as quickly as possible.

01:14:02.280 I'll reverse Trump's detrimental asylum policies.

01:14:05.720 There's no need for us.

01:14:07.960 Biden administration reversed Trump's policy on remain in Mexico.

01:14:11.920 Joe Biden to stop construction of the border wall.

01:14:15.460 It's a new day on the southern border.

01:14:16.860 Here we go.

01:14:17.800 The policy that made it easy to kick out migrants is gone.

01:14:21.860 He inherited the lowest rate of illegal immigration and he immediately reinstated catch and release.

01:14:26.860 And so when they apprehend people, they let him go.

01:14:29.980 I'll reverse Trump's detrimental asylum policies.

01:14:35.160 Ends with Joe Biden is giving you the finger as that illegal immigrant released with no bail gives the double bird to the cameras. 1.00

01:14:42.600 Pretty good, Buck.

01:14:43.280 They've got a huge problem.

01:14:46.760 The country is solidly against the Biden border policies.

01:14:52.040 The numbers, you know, you can look at different versions of it, but 65 percent pretty easily, maybe more like even 70 percent, especially if people are asked the question in a way that reminds them that this was all by design.

01:15:05.500 This is not something that happened that was unforeseeable.

01:15:09.080 Biden decided to break the dam and see what happens.

01:15:13.960 And we've now had this flood of illegal immigrants. 0.86

01:15:16.940 I mean, I've been following this story for years now.

01:15:19.320 I've been down to the border many times, different places along to see what really is going on for Border Patrol, how the cartels operate.

01:15:27.280 And when you see it, Megan, you realize that it is an open border.

01:15:30.580 When you have people showing up by the hundreds, waving Border Patrol down and basically telling them, bring me my my drinks and my sandwiches, process me and get me my bus ticket or my plane ticket to New York.

01:15:42.560 Because they know that's what's going to happen.

01:15:45.200 That's an open border.

01:15:46.240 And I've seen that with my own eyes.

01:15:47.740 And it's constantly going on.

01:15:50.060 This was all because the far left of the party, which Biden, remember, Biden was the Trojan horse, right?

01:15:55.700 He was supposed to be the unifier and the sort of normal Democrat who's, you know, old fashioned values and all. 1.00

01:16:01.640 It's all crap. 1.00

01:16:02.320 It's all a lie. 1.00

01:16:03.600 The far left of the Democrat Party is open borders.

01:16:05.980 We know they want amnesty.

01:16:07.200 We know they want to change the electorate and the demographics of America.

01:16:09.980 It's obvious to everybody, and it's particularly obvious because whenever we talk about it, they get really angry about it, even though we can all see what's going on.

01:16:18.340 And I just say there's no way for them to stop this.

01:16:22.500 I'm glad Republicans didn't all step into the bear trap here and become complicit in this mess with this disaster of a border bill.

01:16:30.880 Certainly House Republicans saw this for what it was.

01:16:33.440 Some of the GOP senators, they're horrible on immigration because their donors want them to be horrible on immigration.

01:16:38.700 Everyone just needs to understand that.

01:16:39.980 Tick off your top least favorite things about the bill, Buck.

01:16:43.460 Oh, my gosh.

01:16:44.780 The fact that, first of all, that it starts at 5,000 a day as though that is an acceptable number, right?

01:16:51.900 So there's this triggering mechanism for if it's 5,000 a day, I think it's for more than seven days or more than, you know, 8,000 a day for a one day period or something.

01:17:00.560 The answer to all of this is to stop the people from abusing our asylum system. 1.00

01:17:07.900 The real problem here has to do with asylum.

01:17:11.180 All this stuff about funding and more border agents and all the rest, they are processing the illegals who come into the country.

01:17:18.140 There's also, in the bill, Megan, there is discretion for the president, in this case Joe Biden, to effectively override all the emergency provisions to say it's not an emergency anymore.

01:17:27.900 So this was always going to fall apart.

01:17:30.520 All you have to do for anyone out there is go back and look at the mechanisms of the Reagan 1986 amnesty.

01:17:38.280 For Reagan fans out there, this was not a good moment, and Reagan admitted it.

01:17:41.220 What you always end up getting is all these promises that there will be stricter enforcement.

01:17:46.260 The only thing that really happens, though, is the more expedited entry for many of these classes of illegals and then the permanent state of amnesty that those who are already in the country get.

01:17:58.780 And that was clearly going to happen with the bill itself.

01:18:01.980 So the fact that it doesn't address in a way that I think is robust enough to get around DHS discretion on the issue, and discretion just means nullification of the law in this instance, that the credible fear standard for the entries into the country, that effectively you need to remain in Mexico because you need to remove the magnet to get into the country and be able to stay here pending your hearing.

01:18:29.400 I know this stuff kind of gets into the weeds a little bit, but that was removed by Biden.

01:18:33.480 That's not restored here.

01:18:35.360 So that's a huge – some of what's wrong with the bill is what's also not in it.

01:18:40.480 The fact is right now, as a function of law, Megan, if anyone crosses a third country, in this case Mexico, on their way into the United States, they're not eligible for asylum.

01:18:51.460 That's already – you're supposed – unless they've tried to get asylum in Mexico and were denied.

01:18:56.500 So all of these people should be ineligible.

01:18:58.260 Yes, and Mexico does nothing to stop the route, and they get here and we say, come right in.

01:19:04.180 We don't care.

01:19:04.640 We pretend that we believe the fake asylum claims, and we know it's a lie.

01:19:07.860 The biggest business in Mexico was drug dealing, and I think it's probably now close to being the human smuggling across the border if it hasn't already happened.

01:19:15.780 All right, stand by.

01:19:16.880 Quick break.

01:19:17.800 Buck stays with us, and we'll be right back with him.

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01:20:23.860 Buck, let's do a little media news.

01:20:26.520 It's not going well over at CNN.

01:20:30.080 You're shocked.

01:20:31.180 I know.

01:20:31.780 I'm dripping with schadenfreude over here, but yeah.

01:20:34.460 Um, the, the cursed morning show over there, which is just failure after failure has failed

01:20:42.880 again.

01:20:43.580 And now the CNN this morning show with Poppy Harlow and Phil Mattingly is going away.

01:20:49.860 Now CNN is in talks with those anchors about new roles.

01:20:53.400 That's there's, it's not happening.

01:20:54.940 If you don't get an anchor job right out of being fired from your anchor job, you no longer

01:20:58.180 have an anchor job.

01:20:58.880 Um, then they're doing CNN news central, which is going to go to seven from seven to 10 a.m.

01:21:07.260 with John Berman, Kate Boldon, and Sarah Sidner.

01:21:10.560 John Berman was already in the morning position and it didn't work out.

01:21:13.260 Like this is what they, it's just the rearranging of the deck chairs.

01:21:16.040 That's their only plan, except for this one thing, which is guess who's getting his own

01:21:21.440 show on the weekdays now, no longer marooned on the weekends.

01:21:25.300 Jim Acosta, baby.

01:21:26.780 He, he's moving to the 10 a.m.

01:21:30.600 And being rewarded.

01:21:33.160 I mean, really, that's a reward for his rabid anti-Trump coverage and getting Russiagate

01:21:39.700 completely, all of it.

01:21:41.000 So that's, this is how Rachel Maddow gets a $30 million a year for one show a week. 1.00

01:21:45.600 You just keep lying about Trump and you keep moving up the ladder.

01:21:48.780 Yeah, look, I was at CNN, uh, in 20, uh, 2014 and 2015 into 2016, um, as a, this is when

01:21:58.260 they used to actually have conservatives on the payroll.

01:22:00.160 I was there.

01:22:01.080 Kayleigh McEnany was there.

01:22:02.400 I mean, there were a few of us and in the Trump era to give everyone a sense that just

01:22:07.100 became unacceptable.

01:22:08.000 I mean, it was no longer, they're a network that got so ideologically, um, uh, crazed that

01:22:17.120 they were having to have people on that were fakes for the other side, meaning people that 1.00

01:22:21.560 actually can't represent the Republican pro Trump point of view.

01:22:26.020 Instead, it was only Republicans who hate Trump.

01:22:28.600 And then it just started being no Republicans at all.

01:22:31.020 So the notion of CNN as a, as a news channel has been laughable for a long time.

01:22:37.920 Uh, it's obviously left of center.

01:22:39.680 It's Democrat aligned.

01:22:40.760 It's effectively DNC TV, mostly watched in airports.

01:22:44.660 Um, but in terms of why their ratings are so far down, uh, they, they put their audience

01:22:49.740 through quite a bit of whiplash, right?

01:22:51.280 They, they seem like they were going to be a little more open to, uh, broader ideological

01:22:56.620 points of view under the last guy, right.

01:22:59.480 Who just got fired.

01:23:00.720 Um, it got fired because he had a Trump town hall.

01:23:03.300 Trump, as we all know, is the Republican nominee or officially soon to be the Republican

01:23:07.720 nominee.

01:23:09.200 And that's the kind of thing that if you're a news network, you actually have to cover

01:23:12.300 it.

01:23:12.540 It's news.

01:23:13.040 And same thing with Trump rallies.

01:23:14.220 If you're going to call yourself a news network and look at American politics.

01:23:17.420 Um, but I'm, I don't mean to be unkind about this, although I will say some of

01:23:21.140 the people at CNN were quite unkind when they thought they could get away with it, um, during

01:23:25.400 the Trump era, because the channel was doing well, I will name names.

01:23:29.000 Um, they just don't have very interesting people on television over there.

01:23:32.140 Uh, it there, I mean, I could sit here and say, I can pick people from the other side

01:23:37.220 who are good TV, even if I really disagree with them and very few of them work at CNN.

01:23:42.980 Um, yeah, very few of them are interesting and have unique takes and have a real presence.

01:23:48.060 So it's not surprising at all.

01:23:50.400 I think CNN is getting what it deserves.

01:23:52.460 Um, and it's just making everybody think more about who's honest with you about what

01:23:57.920 they're trying to do and who's still playing games about being nonpartisan and just objective

01:24:03.400 news.

01:24:04.140 It's not CNN.

01:24:04.800 You know, it's terrible.

01:24:05.980 They never had great ratings.

01:24:07.240 That's the truth.

01:24:08.140 Except on the big news days, like when there's breaking news and you know, the, the tsunami

01:24:14.000 and earthquake over in Phuket, Thailand, that huge, huge, everybody tunes into CNN because

01:24:19.460 they will cover the field.

01:24:21.200 They'll have the best resources.

01:24:22.780 They they're overstaffed.

01:24:24.020 So those are good nights for CNN.

01:24:25.440 Other than that, they've never had any ratings, but they used to have respect.

01:24:28.840 You know, nobody ever like got a sizzle or a little tingle when they watch CNN, but it

01:24:34.480 used to be fair.

01:24:35.280 And then they completely abandoned that under Jeff Zucker.

01:24:38.120 And now they're, they've ruined their reputation and they have shitty ratings still.

01:24:42.080 So it's the worst combination.

01:24:43.760 I'll, I'll tell you a story.

01:24:45.560 Somebody here, I don't know who it is, but in the new role is, is, uh, she's out on maternity

01:24:51.940 leave. 0.99

01:24:52.240 I'm not sure who it is, but I guess until she comes back, they're going to have Wolf Blitzer

01:24:58.260 sit, sit in for her. 0.78

01:25:01.240 And can I tell you something?

01:25:02.320 It reminds me very much.

01:25:03.620 Oh, it was Pam, Pamela Brown.

01:25:05.460 She's going to be at 11 AM, but she's on maternity leave. 0.83

01:25:07.900 So Wolf Blitzer is going to anchor.

01:25:09.920 When I was at Fox, I was in Roger Ailes office.

01:25:14.440 Jeff Zucker had just taken over as the new head of CNN.

01:25:17.580 And he was calling Roger to say, thank you for saying those nice things about me in the

01:25:22.260 press.

01:25:22.740 I love the story.

01:25:23.840 And Roger said, well, I didn't say them because they're true.

01:25:27.480 I said them because they make myself look good.

01:25:29.900 They make me look good.

01:25:31.900 And Zucker laughed and he said, well, do you have any advice for me?

01:25:36.380 And Roger said, well, I could certainly use another hour of Wolf Blitzer.

01:25:42.460 And lo and behold, they're still doing this.

01:25:45.820 They don't understand that was sarcasm.

01:25:48.260 We do not need another hour of Wolf Blitzer.

01:25:50.600 He's not the answer to your problems or anything in the morning where they've literally got one

01:25:55.320 third the audience of Morning Joe and Fox and Friends.

01:25:57.800 So Trump won the election and I knew what because I had seen it coming for a long time at CNN.

01:26:03.980 And believe it or not, because I used to do a lot of I used to do it on your show at Fox,

01:26:07.760 Megan.

01:26:08.000 I appreciate that very much.

01:26:09.340 And then at CNN, I mean, I knew all the counterterrorism stuff backwards and forwards because

01:26:13.660 I'd worked at CIA, CTC and I'd run presidential briefings and I've been in Iraq and I've been

01:26:17.640 in Afghanistan.

01:26:18.520 And and it was a couple of years before I was on TV.

01:26:20.860 It wasn't 20 years ago, which is a whole other thing about how cable news works.

01:26:23.860 Some of these guys that, you know, retired from the Air Force in 1994, I wouldn't go

01:26:28.000 to them necessarily to have their latest strategy on how to deal with what's going on in Syria.

01:26:32.980 Neither here nor there.

01:26:33.860 But that was a common thing in cable news, you know, going back now about a decade.

01:26:37.580 But I had no job for television in 2016.

01:26:40.900 CNN offered to extend my contract, which was a shock to me because I could do the terrorism

01:26:45.680 stuff, though, and not politics.

01:26:46.900 And I said no.

01:26:48.540 And I will remember I saw I didn't think Jeff Zucker knew who I was.

01:26:52.580 And I'm sure now he would say that he doesn't know who I am, which is fine.

01:26:55.760 I don't care.

01:26:56.760 But I remember I walked in the lobby over there after I had said no to the contract.

01:27:00.900 I just don't want to work for you guys anymore.

01:27:02.520 I won't take any more of your money, which, as you know, in TV, especially just starting

01:27:05.900 out, I was earlier even in my career than I am now.

01:27:09.780 That's that's kind of a bold move.

01:27:11.540 Zucker saw me in the lobby.

01:27:12.660 I was going there to visit a friend because I had made a lot of friends, the staff.

01:27:15.220 He looked at me and goes, what are you doing here?

01:27:18.500 Oh, wow.

01:27:19.420 Nice.

01:27:19.820 And I was like, I don't know, I'm going to see a friend like, is that OK?

01:27:23.560 I'm like banned from the building because I don't want to accept your very, very meager

01:27:27.720 paycheck to be a punching bag and try to explain to your audience that they're a bunch of anti-Trump 0.99

01:27:32.040 lunatics. 0.98

01:27:32.660 I mean, you know, I just try to keep it real.

01:27:34.880 So anyway, that was that's my Jeff Zucker story.

01:27:37.940 It did not end well for him either there.

01:27:40.260 I mean, it's just look, they never should have done the turn they did.

01:27:44.500 They could have done slow and steady through the Trump years, tried to maintain objectivity.

01:27:48.920 They didn't.

01:27:50.000 OK, in other bad media news, Jon Stewart is coming back to The Daily Show.

01:27:56.660 He's oh, he like like, you know, Khaleesi off into the fire.

01:28:02.360 He was like, I'm out of here.

01:28:03.620 I rocked The Daily Show.

01:28:04.880 No one can do better than I did.

01:28:06.220 Bye.

01:28:07.100 And it imploded.

01:28:08.260 It did terribly.

01:28:09.000 And he was enjoying his sheep farm in, I don't know, upstate New York, pretending like

01:28:14.880 he didn't he just was over the glare of the spotlight, like he just didn't want it, didn't

01:28:18.300 want it.

01:28:18.840 And then, boom, he's back with an Apple show.

01:28:21.100 Oh, what happened?

01:28:21.720 I thought you didn't want the OK, but I guess you did.

01:28:24.880 It bombed.

01:28:26.160 It was the ratings for that show were through the toilet.

01:28:29.380 It made that CNN morning show look like it was Tucker Carlson primetime Fox News days.

01:28:34.080 Um, so, of course, because he's a leftist, they rewarded his failure with another season

01:28:40.140 on Apple.

01:28:41.080 And now he's agreeing to come back, but he's pulling the Rachel Maddow one night on The Daily

01:28:48.160 Show.

01:28:48.660 I'm sure he's getting buku bucks for it.

01:28:51.420 And we're going to have to listen to that nonsense once again.

01:28:55.420 And the question is whether he will be able at this point in his career to totally indoctrinate

01:29:01.640 another group of growing leftists the way he did 14 years ago, or whether he's jumped

01:29:12.060 the shark, as they say.

01:29:13.840 Oh, no, he's it's it's not going to be what it was.

01:29:16.860 And that's because he had I think I want to give proper credit here.

01:29:22.860 Kevin Williamson, you know, National Review, very, very talented writer.

01:29:26.900 I think he's referred to it as clown nose on clown nose off.

01:29:31.420 And and that is the best description, I think, of Jon Stewart that I've ever read, because,

01:29:35.520 you know, sometimes he was Mr.

01:29:37.120 Serious Policy Guy.

01:29:38.380 I want to talk about the Iraq War with Rumsfeld.

01:29:40.600 But the moment you start to push back or the moment you explain that he's actually wildly 0.92

01:29:44.720 ignorant and doesn't have much context for his statements, it's, hey, I'm just making 0.94

01:29:48.520 jokes about, you know, whatever. 0.99

01:29:50.660 And the show before this is puppets call making crank phone calls.

01:29:53.960 You know, he played this game and really what he just did was elevate a mentality among a

01:30:01.620 whole generation of Democrats that the other side was just to be you were to attribute false

01:30:08.480 beliefs to the other side or make a false argument for the other side, you know, the classic straw

01:30:15.340 man situation, and then just sneer at them, then just be as nasty about it as you can.

01:30:20.960 It was never jokes that were meant to make everyone laugh.

01:30:23.160 It was jokes that were meant to make liberals, leftists laugh at people who didn't agree

01:30:27.440 with them.

01:30:28.220 And I just think that what Jon Stewart did was and I'll be honest, I used to watch it

01:30:31.520 when I was in college, too.

01:30:32.600 So, I mean, I was somebody who I was aware of the politics of it.

01:30:36.140 Sometimes I thought it was funny.

01:30:37.900 And my roommates all wanted to watch it.

01:30:39.680 Now we're getting, you know, going back 20 some odd years now.

01:30:41.900 But I remember my roommates loved Jon Stewart.

01:30:44.020 But the whole thing, Megan, was deeply dishonest.

01:30:46.500 It was dishonest because the whole thing was, oh, we can interview somebody and edit it however

01:30:51.540 we want because we're just making jokes.

01:30:53.160 No, they were ridiculing people.

01:30:54.820 Well, sometimes they're ridiculing a guy or a gal.

01:30:57.740 It doesn't really matter.

01:30:58.940 But they would do it to people particularly who were on the right.

01:31:01.380 And then that became the sport.

01:31:03.100 And it was always propaganda.

01:31:04.920 It was always funhouse mirror versions of the other side.

01:31:07.100 So it will be again.

01:31:08.560 But what's different this time?

01:31:09.680 Because people now know, I think there's a greater degree of sophistication and understanding,

01:31:16.220 first of all, about Jon Stewart's politics.

01:31:18.400 He's a huge lib.

01:31:19.460 That's anyone who doesn't know that.

01:31:21.080 He's a leftist.

01:31:21.940 I know it's you probably would think, oh, well, didn't they know that then?

01:31:25.040 No, he was a comedian.

01:31:26.960 He was a comedian. 0.82

01:31:28.060 He became a sanctimonious, whiny old man when he left The Daily Show, the Apple show.

01:31:33.700 So, you know, you know, he he became one of these guys who has no insights to offer whatsoever,

01:31:39.540 but just sits there and sneers at people's like, oh, I'm above politics.

01:31:44.200 Why can't people just listen to me? 1.00

01:31:45.540 No, actually, you're a jackass. 0.99

01:31:47.280 And a lot of what he did, I think, poorly served his audience. 1.00

01:31:51.300 I think it's why there's so many emotionally unstable Democrats in their 30s and 40s walking

01:31:56.580 around who can't handle another argument.

01:31:58.180 Um, and I really think that overall, you know, Jon Stewart was a very lucky guy in

01:32:04.160 the right place at the right time to do very bad things for political discourse in this

01:32:09.120 country by pretending to be above it when really he was just the most corrupt version of it.

01:32:15.340 It's going to be fun.

01:32:16.580 I look forward to it because, you know, over on Fox, they didn't want you to spend too

01:32:20.400 much time on him. 0.99

01:32:21.520 And now if he pulls his bullshit, it's on like the conservative ecosphere has just gotten 1.00

01:32:27.740 too big and powerful for him to get away with that bullshit. 1.00

01:32:32.040 There's just too many people who will put the lie to his nonsense claims and he'll never 1.00

01:32:37.040 have the power that he once had.

01:32:38.580 He'll try.

01:32:39.280 That's good.

01:32:39.580 There are too many.

01:32:40.320 Megan, that's really the other thing.

01:32:41.680 And I just wanted to say this.

01:32:42.780 I mean, I think people know more about who he is, but more importantly, if he tries to

01:32:46.900 clip you up or something or somebody else and, you know, you have a bigger fire hose than

01:32:51.400 he does now.

01:32:52.120 You know what I mean?

01:32:52.500 I mean, this, this is a, this is a change world that we're operating in.

01:32:56.040 And that was one of the things that always really, really pissed me off about a place

01:32:59.100 like CNN.

01:33:00.140 They were so dishonest about the time you'd get on air.

01:33:04.120 I mean, I'll, can I tell you one more quick CNN story?

01:33:07.040 You might like this one.

01:33:07.800 Yeah, please.

01:33:08.340 So I was the one who would go on air and say over there, yeah, this is obviously like

01:33:14.060 jihadist terrorism, you know, Islamic extremist terrorism.

01:33:16.580 And they would always play this game of, no, how do you know that?

01:33:19.440 And I'd say, well, I did this for a living and, and, you know, had a TS clearance and just

01:33:23.420 looked at terrorism cases all day and work anyway.

01:33:25.980 And, and Brian Stelter decided that he was going to go at me sometime.

01:33:29.660 So we sat there and I went through it all.

01:33:31.760 And sure enough, I was right.

01:33:32.780 And he got smoked and the whole thing.

01:33:34.760 And they pre-taped it.

01:33:36.260 The guy could barely read off of a prompter, nevermind, handle himself in a debate.

01:33:39.800 They never even told, they just pulled it from his show a couple of days later.

01:33:43.600 Never, never even told me, never even gave it.

01:33:45.760 So I tweeted, Hey guys, I'm going to be on Brian's show, but he got smoked.

01:33:49.600 So they just pretend like it never happened and knew that if they told me, I'd be like,

01:33:53.760 what?

01:33:54.300 So they just, they just, the whole interview, eight minutes of Brian Stelter, like, I don't

01:33:58.460 understand.

01:33:59.180 Why are you smarter than me? 1.00

01:34:00.880 Annihilated, annihilated. 0.99

01:34:02.320 And they just made it go into the trash bin. 0.76

01:34:03.940 Cause that's how dishonest the place it is.

01:34:05.920 It's a, I almost cursed on your show.

01:34:08.220 That's how fired up you.

01:34:08.960 I never, I mean, you know how I am.

01:34:11.020 So you're so close.

01:34:12.040 Yeah.

01:34:12.960 That's amazing.

01:34:13.980 How, how cowardly I've had many, many embarrassing moments on the air, including in pre-taped shows.

01:34:19.760 And I leave them in.

01:34:21.120 I mean, it's like, it's cheating to take them out.

01:34:23.420 Warts and all.

01:34:24.140 Only ones I'll take out is, I've said something factually wrong that I don't want to put out

01:34:28.020 there.

01:34:28.300 Or I, I, that's it.

01:34:29.960 I mean, I can't think of another one that I would ever take out.

01:34:32.060 That's embarrassing.

01:34:33.000 How embarrassing for him.

01:34:33.860 All right, let's end on this.

01:34:36.460 Back and forth within the Republican party on Bud Light.

01:34:40.740 You saw the, I'm sorry.

01:34:43.100 I'm just, I'm kind of pissed off.

01:34:44.660 I'm not going to lie.

01:34:45.380 Donald Trump is out there.

01:34:46.800 Let's give him a second chance.

01:34:48.000 It's a great American company.

01:34:49.560 They're hosting a huge fundraiser for him.

01:34:52.380 That's why he's doing this.

01:34:54.400 It's like they're buying off person after person and expecting all the Republicans to

01:34:59.020 take the knee.

01:34:59.480 I am firmly in the Matt Walsh camp of, this is the best and biggest victory that conservatives

01:35:04.980 have had in the culture wars in decades.

01:35:07.960 It's the only massive company that has been forced to listen to our objections.

01:35:13.200 And it's worked, except they haven't apologized.

01:35:15.860 And I am not going to bend the knee at all until I want that CEO here or another show or

01:35:23.160 someplace out there telling me he gets how offensive he, what he did was and why.

01:35:28.580 Otherwise I'll know he's still in the capture of the trans activist lobby. 0.53

01:35:32.400 That's where I stand.

01:35:33.820 What do you think?

01:35:35.680 I wish I had a fiery rebuttal for you, but I'm apparently standing beside you and Matt

01:35:41.360 Walsh, two people I tend to agree with on a lot of things.

01:35:44.900 So yeah, I think that, look, Trump's trying to win an election and he's going to play the

01:35:50.040 game the way he has to play it to win.

01:35:51.700 And that means dealing with the donors and everything else.

01:35:53.940 And part of, I think, uh, the Trump supporters view of, of that freedom, which can sometimes

01:36:00.300 lead to some inconsistencies with how he approaches things is whatever he's got to do to get it

01:36:04.620 done.

01:36:04.820 Like if he's got to, you know, buy off the reps or he's got to do something when the

01:36:08.980 ref's not looking, that's what he's got to do to win.

01:36:11.800 Um, I think, uh, that Bud Light is obviously still afraid of the trans lobby.

01:36:17.920 Otherwise they could have handled this.

01:36:19.500 I would have said it's, it's all fine and forgiven if they had immediately come out and said,

01:36:23.520 guys were, that will never happen again.

01:36:25.040 We made a mistake.

01:36:25.860 Yeah.

01:36:26.080 The reason they won't do it is because they're afraid of, it's not just the trans lobby.

01:36:30.840 Really?

01:36:31.220 It's, you know, the DEI corporate apparatus.

01:36:34.000 Um, and, and also their buddies on the golf course.

01:36:37.360 I mean, the C-suite, these guys are already rich.

01:36:39.960 They're already very influential.

01:36:41.120 They could almost all retire.

01:36:42.740 You look at the CEO of Bud Light.

01:36:43.940 He's like my age, by the way, anyway, a whole other thing.

01:36:46.340 Um, but these people have plenty of money.

01:36:48.360 They could walk away from it.

01:36:49.880 They want the approbation of their peer group and they want to be,

01:36:53.520 invited to polite society.

01:36:55.220 And they're afraid that they'll be attacked by the left in a way that will prevent that.

01:36:59.360 So I agree with you.

01:37:00.580 We shouldn't allow people to get bought off on this one.

01:37:02.660 Um, I understand why Trump's doing what he's doing, but I don't have to go along with it.

01:37:06.100 It turns out you can like Trump and vote for him and not agree with everything he says.

01:37:09.360 I know the Democrats don't believe that's a thing, but it's definitely a thing. 0.91

01:37:13.420 Well said.

01:37:14.600 Yes.

01:37:15.300 Totally in, in lockstep with you on that.

01:37:17.980 And Matt Walsh, who's always got crystal clear clarity on it, on this particular subject.

01:37:23.600 Uh, Buck Sexton, what a pleasure.

01:37:24.940 I love talking to you.

01:37:25.700 Thanks for coming on.

01:37:27.040 Always so fun to hang.

01:37:28.000 Next time I'm going to curse, Megan.

01:37:29.540 Next time it's going to happen.

01:37:30.400 Do it.

01:37:31.260 I'm going to see the naughty side.

01:37:32.440 You're so freeing.

01:37:34.580 Come on in.

01:37:35.260 The water's fine.

01:37:36.060 It's fine.

01:37:36.580 Yeah.

01:37:36.740 Then we'll both get upset messages from my mom.

01:37:40.320 Uh, okay.

01:37:40.960 Talk soon.

01:37:41.920 And don't forget everybody tune in tomorrow here on the show, because guess who's going

01:37:45.120 to be here?

01:37:46.420 Jeffrey Epstein's brother.

01:37:48.420 That ought to be fun.

01:37:49.820 Don't miss that one.

01:37:53.600 Thanks for listening to the Megan Kelly show.

01:37:55.860 No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

01:38:06.740 Thank you.

The Megyn Kelly Show - February 08, 2024

Biden's Cognitive Decline, America's Reckoning, and CNN's Ratings Slide, with Dennis Prager and Buck Sexton ｜ Ep. 720

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