The Megyn Kelly Show - Biden's COVID Gaslighting, Anti-Science Masking, and Trucker Crackdown, with Ben Shapiro, Ezra Levant and Rob Astorino

00:00:00.600 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:12.160 Hey, everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:14.920 We have a packed and great program for you today.

00:00:17.900 In just a bit, we're going to be joined by my pal Ben Shapiro,

00:00:21.000 and we're going to discuss all the ways that the Democrats are now gaslighting Americans

00:00:24.920 into believing you owe your mask-free face, if you are one of the lucky ones who has that,

00:00:32.240 to President Biden, for to President Biden, because his policies actually made this happen,

00:00:38.600 even though the president's own secretary of education is now saying,

00:00:41.980 not too fast in taking off the masks. So which is it?

00:00:45.480 It apparently had nothing to do with all the hardworking moms and the dads across the nation

00:00:49.700 speaking out or attending school board meetings week after week. No, it's just our fearless leader.

00:00:54.920 Standing up, the parents did. They gave him passion speeches to make sure the voices of

00:00:58.800 their children were heard. Now, forget them. F those people. We can apparently think Joe Biden

00:01:03.760 and the Democrats, they are the ones who get the credit. Ben is fired up about this. I'm fired up

00:01:10.400 about this. You don't want to miss that conversation. But first, we're going to begin today in Canada,

00:01:14.740 where police in Ottawa are looking at a new way to get protesters to leave, investigate them

00:01:22.380 as parents and threaten them with a loss of custody of their children. Ezra Levant is founder of Rebel

00:01:30.880 News, a conservative media outlet in Canada who's been covering all the protests. He's with us and

00:01:36.560 he was amazing on this last week. Ezra, welcome back. Thanks for having me. All right. So what is

00:01:42.240 what what is this about the children that the police are now questioning the welfare of the children

00:01:48.060 at the protest? Yeah, I mean, this is their latest attempt to scare off the truckers. The first was

00:01:55.580 to call them racist and sexist and every name that sort of ricocheted off them because it's so

00:02:02.140 patently untrue. Then they accused them of violence. There has been no violence. In fact, Ottawa police

00:02:07.660 report the crime is down in downtown Ottawa. The only crime has been committed against the truckers

00:02:14.220 by an Antifa style activist who rammed for them with a car in the city of Winnipeg. So their latest

00:02:20.680 move, well, I should say there's one more move. The police raided these truckers taking away their

00:02:26.400 diesel without a warrant. It was quite shocking, actually. Armed police went out in mass and seized

00:02:33.860 all the jerry cans. And the reason these truckers need diesel, they're not driving anywhere. They're

00:02:38.620 sleeping in their cabs. So they have to run the trucks to stay warm. It's still pretty cold in Ottawa.

00:02:43.320 So without any search warrant, it's not against the law to have diesel fuel. Police went in and seized

00:02:49.440 thousands of gallons of diesel fuel. That didn't work. Then there was a court hearing to get an

00:02:57.160 injunction. And the judge gave one, threw one bone to the lockdownist and said, the horns shouldn't

00:03:06.120 honk noisily in residential areas. So frankly, the noisy honking has stopped. There's nothing left

00:03:13.700 there. So they cooked up this new scheme and it's shocking and terrifying to see. About a quarter of

00:03:21.140 the protesters there are with families, mom, dad, kids. There's bouncy castles. It's quite a festival

00:03:29.280 feeling. So the new move is to accuse these parents of recklessly endangering their children

00:03:36.800 and suggesting that child welfare should come. Now, this is outlandish. Again, there's no basis to it.

00:03:43.140 But in Canada, there's a giant media company larger than all others combined. It's called the Canadian

00:03:48.820 Broadcasting Corporation. It gets a billion and a half dollars a year from the government. It's really a state

00:03:54.360 broadcaster. So their new thing is to go truck by truck, asking about the child welfare in that

00:04:01.340 vehicle. At the same time, there's moves to get child welfare to sweep in. That would cause the

00:04:07.540 truckers to leave. Of course, no one loves anything more than their own children. It's a low blow. It

00:04:13.120 shows the desperation. And I think it's going to backfire because don't mess with these peaceful

00:04:17.760 protesters' kids. You can call the protesters' names, but you try and trump up some reason to take

00:04:23.480 their kids away. That's not going to go over well in Canada. That is next level intimidation

00:04:29.140 nonsense. But it dovetails perfectly with what we're hearing from our left wing press

00:04:34.640 here in America, because they're trying to paint these truckers like they're January 6th

00:04:40.780 insurrectionists, right? They were hearing that word more and more insurrectionists, insurrectionists.

00:04:45.620 Grabian, the company over here that does a great job of sound mashups, gives us a sampling of how

00:04:51.200 the American media, apart from independent voices, you know, that are like mine on digital and Fox

00:04:57.260 News, which is more conservative, are covering it. But this is how the mainstream press here is

00:05:02.380 covering it. Listen to this nonsense. The police chief is calling it a nationwide

00:05:05.940 insurrection driven by madness. This is kind of our insurrection by air horn moment. I think it's part

00:05:13.780 of the globalization of Trumpism. Canadians know where I stand. There hasn't been as much violence as some

00:05:18.480 had perhaps projected, but that does not necessarily mean that it has been peaceful. Reports of severe

00:05:23.760 vandalism and criminal behavior. Streets are clogged. The honking is incessant and deafening. This

00:05:28.940 pandemic has sucked for all Canadians. Residents that I have spoken to who say they feel terrorized,

00:05:36.300 intimidated. Residents say they feel like hostages. Residents in that area say that they are being held

00:05:41.780 hostage, that this freedom has essentially, this freedom convoy, as they call it, has essentially imposed a

00:05:47.660 lockdown on them. Some protesters harassed a soup kitchen. These anti-vaxxers actually took food

00:05:53.560 from the mouths of the homeless. Hungry, yeah. Because they're so put upon. There have not been

00:05:59.180 any violent outbursts. However, horns have been honking for 12 to 21 hours a night. You've heard it

00:06:03.840 called a nationwide insurrection. A threat to democracy, an insurrection, sedition. This is a moment for

00:06:10.160 responsible leaders to think carefully about where they stand.

00:06:15.060 Oh, Esra. Okay, so they're stealing from the homeless. They're taking meals away from the

00:06:20.240 homeless. You tell me, my understanding was maybe there was one person who crossed a line there,

00:06:25.340 like one. So now it makes international news as this is their MO.

00:06:28.980 Yeah, one person went into a soup kitchen and was said, well, this is just for homeless people,

00:06:33.720 and they left. And severe vandalism, that makes me laugh very hard. There's a statue of someone who

00:06:41.100 died of cancer. He was a great Canadian hero. And some of the protesters put a Canadian flag on his

00:06:46.760 shoulders like a cape and put a sign in his hand that said freedom. They didn't vandalize it. They

00:06:52.060 didn't tear it down or paint it. They literally put a Canadian flag on him. And maybe you shouldn't do

00:06:56.920 that. But to call that severe vandalism, none of these things are true. And like I say, there was

00:07:05.920 a day in court, I think two days ago now, and the judge said, yes, I grant you that those air horns

00:07:11.300 are going on too noisy at night. No more air horns. They've limited the air horns. There's some sort of

00:07:18.020 rules there. And you know what? That might even be a reasonable thing to do. But that's it. There was

00:07:23.220 some horn honking to call the sedition, insurrection, terrorism, hostage taking. Let me put it this way.

00:07:29.360 A judge doesn't agree. They need to toughen up. That is absurd. Like, give me a break. So much

00:07:36.120 honking. I'm sure it's annoying. It's not a violent outburst. And that's honestly, that's our media.

00:07:43.020 They too seriously need to toughen up. But meanwhile, you've got disturbing videos from what they're doing

00:07:49.580 to the protesters, right? From trying to take the kids potentially to stealing the diesel to this

00:07:54.880 video that's now gone viral of an officer trying to arrest a 79-year-old grandfather, great-grandfather.

00:08:04.000 The elderly man dropped an F-bomb at the police. That's what we understand. But this video and to

00:08:09.400 our listeners, you've got to look at this on YouTube later and you'll see. It's a little guy. He's wearing

00:08:13.660 like flannel pajama pants. He can't be more than 5'4". He has white hair. He is being manhandled by

00:08:20.460 this cop. They have him in cuffs like he just committed a murder. And they're shoving him into

00:08:25.060 this car as if, seriously, he's a massive threat to public safety. What's going on there?

00:08:31.780 You know what? You're right. He's 70. He's not even five feet tall. And they brutalized him. He had to go

00:08:39.220 to the hospital. He's injured now, actually. I understand he's retained counsel and he's going

00:08:44.020 to sue the police. But it was all because he honked his, not like a honk, honk, truck honk,

00:08:50.060 but like a meep, meep on his car. So the cop said, insurrectionists. And look at him. I mean,

00:08:55.900 he's literally a great grandpa. He is less than five feet. They could lift him up with one arm.

00:09:03.380 Yeah, he's probably 80 pounds soaking wet. You know what? And just because you go,

00:09:09.120 meep, meep, in support of the truckers, it's shocking. And this breaks my heart because I call

00:09:16.540 myself conservative. My whole life, I've been very supportive of police. But in Canada, police are the

00:09:22.540 enforcement arm for public health measures, even crazy ones, even extreme ones. And to see police

00:09:29.080 be politicized, I'm sorry, honking your horn, even if it's against the bylaw. Okay, so give them a

00:09:36.460 ticket to rough them up like that. The Ottawa police have been shocking. That was the Ottawa police.

00:09:42.240 They did a 22-part tweet storm that I've never seen any police force in the world do ever,

00:09:49.540 saying they were working with Canada's national spy agencies to get the digital data of every

00:09:55.600 protester to get their license and registration and insurance and their banking information and

00:10:01.460 their digital footprint. They tweeted this out. Again, no search warrant, no one charged with

00:10:07.140 anything. The Ottawa police, I think, are trying to scare people away by being so abusive. They're

00:10:12.900 trying to get other people not to come. So in fact, the abusiveness, believe it or not,

00:10:17.980 is the point of it. The fact that that video was circulated and that officer has not been suspended

00:10:23.280 or investigated tells me that Ottawa police are happy with that going out there because maybe

00:10:28.240 it'll deter another thousand people from coming to the protest. People will say, oh, I don't want to

00:10:33.060 be roughed up like that. Maybe when people see the video of the CBC government journalists going around

00:10:37.980 doing their child welfare questions, maybe that'll cause a thousand other families to say, oh,

00:10:43.140 we'd better not go to the protest. So the brutality of it, I think, is the political point. They're trying

00:10:49.520 to shock and scare people away from completely peaceful protests.

00:10:53.980 Right, right. If they're well, one of their biggest beefs is they put a cape on a statue.

00:10:59.000 They could they could take a lesson from BLM. Honestly, like they've been blood over statues of

00:11:04.300 Abraham Lincoln, Abraham Lincoln. I mean, they went nuts. That's what real van vandalism looks like.

00:11:10.860 But what so can we just talk about the set me straight on the locations, Ottawa. That's the nation's

00:11:16.520 capital. Is that ground zero right now for all of this still?

00:11:20.560 Well, it's it's the biggest one. It's the most dramatic one. And of course, it being

00:11:23.920 our capital city, it has the most politicians and media. So it certainly had the center of the action.

00:11:29.920 There's two other ones I'd like to mention very quickly. One is at the Montana, Alberta border,

00:11:35.120 the little town called Cootes. Now, that's not a very big border crossing, but there are about 500

00:11:40.820 truckers and now farmers on the Canadian side who have shut the border down. So the Mounties have

00:11:47.980 made a perimeter around the border crossing a couple of miles away. So there's it's like a siege

00:11:55.260 wall. Yeah, we're showing a video of it now. Yeah. And you can't. There's no way somebody could

00:11:59.800 drive down this this road right now. Not a chance. No. And and frankly, good luck trying to tow those

00:12:05.200 things. Some of those are extremely big rigs. And one amazing thing I'm seeing across Canada is tow truck

00:12:10.480 companies simply refusing to accept the offer to tow these away. I think it's sort of a it's almost

00:12:16.720 like we're at a general strike. But let me tell you the most interesting and potentially eventful

00:12:23.760 blockade in the whole country. And that is at the Ambassador Bridge between Detroit and Windsor.

00:12:30.600 As you know, there's auto manufacturers on both sides of the border. This one bridge every day,

00:12:37.180 probably 100 million dollars worth of commerce is done on this bridge. It's about a quarter of all

00:12:43.480 Canada U.S. trade. A lot of the plants, GM, Ford, etc., are are located on both sides of the bridge. So

00:12:50.280 they need this bridge. And the truckers have blocked this bridge. So all of a sudden, this protest,

00:12:56.420 which was a very Canada centric thing. Well, now it's affecting America. And I don't think I mean,

00:13:02.680 I'll let you do the analysis on the American side, but I'm guessing Joe Biden doesn't want to see

00:13:06.880 copycat protests around America, solidarity protests around America. And I saw that your

00:13:13.580 presidential spokesman, Jen Psaki, was actually using deferential language, respectful language.

00:13:19.580 That's the interesting thing. You saw Justin Trudeau smear, slander, attack, name call. Very

00:13:25.520 interesting to me to see how the Biden administration has so far not gone in aggressively,

00:13:30.100 but rather with an open hand. I'm not saying they're handling it perfectly.

00:13:33.300 They can't. Oh, my. I mean, Ezra, after the way they backed the BLM protests,

00:13:38.540 there is no chance that they can come down on this. I mean, it would just be so grossly

00:13:44.100 hypocritical, even for them. I just I think even they don't have the guts for that.

00:13:49.380 Well, more than that, they don't want this to become a supply chain issue in the United States.

00:13:54.120 They'd want to become an economic issue. If you start impacting the big three, the Detroit automakers,

00:13:59.400 then that's going to have an economic impact, a real impact. And it really has taken on the style

00:14:06.220 of a general strike in Canada. You've got farmers. I hear now that bus drivers in the city of Hamilton

00:14:12.400 are now taking action. So it's spreading among the working class, which is fascinating.

00:14:18.860 Canada has overtly socialist political parties that claim to talk for the working men.

00:14:24.300 They are demonizing this workers' rebellion. It's the most legitimate, authentic, organic

00:14:30.940 wildcat strike, really, in probably a century in Canada. And what's amazing is the parties of the

00:14:39.140 left who used to stand with the workers against the big corporations, who used to talk about

00:14:43.680 my body, my choice against medical procedures they didn't want, who used to be skeptical of big

00:14:49.760 pharma, who wanted personal privacy. The parties of the left have vanished. And so this trucker rebellion

00:14:57.940 doesn't just appeal to conservatives. In fact, 57% of Green Party members in Canada, Green Party, say they see

00:15:07.440 themselves represented in this convoy. So it's organic, it's authentic, it's not led by a super PAC or a political

00:15:14.900 party. And it is a tidal wave washing over Canadian politics. My advice to my American friends is,

00:15:22.420 if you want, I mean, you better solve these problems before it washes into your country. Because imagine

00:15:27.840 if there was a workers' rebellion in America against these lockdowns, mandates, vaccine mandates. You saw a

00:15:34.480 little bit of that with the airlines in America, pilots calling in sick en masse, a sort of a work-to-rule

00:15:40.520 move when pilots and flight attendants had to have vaxxers. Imagine if the good old American trucker went on

00:15:48.100 strike over vaccine rules and lockdowns, it would hurt everyone.

00:15:52.440 That's right. Well, and of course, they too have been subjected to these mandates. Truckers, I mean, it's one of the

00:15:57.240 most isolated jobs in the world. I was talking about it with my assistant, Abby, like what else? Like a snowplow driver,

00:16:03.800 you know, like the guy, the guy who does like the mountain, you know, who runs, who does the grooming on the

00:16:08.280 mountain overnight. I mean, you can think of a few professions where you're alone all day for the most

00:16:12.840 part, like these guys. They just don't want to be harassed. And they're treated by Trudeau as these

00:16:18.540 stupid rubes who just don't understand what's good for them. And even Jen Psaki, when in her messaging,

00:16:24.120 she was asked about it on Tuesday. And she said, look, vaccine requirements have been implemented with

00:16:29.920 no disruptions. She said, we know our requirements work. They work. And when somebody asked her about

00:16:38.940 the possibility that we could see a similar protest here, including on March 1st, this is when Joe

00:16:42.800 Biden delayed his State of the Union to she was like, well, I'm just going to have to check with

00:16:46.440 our team on security preparations for that. But she's back on the wise up truckers. Our requirements

00:16:53.240 work. And so did Justin Trudeau's. And when we tell you what's good for you is to get a vaccine

00:16:58.580 and we mandate it, you should really just be saying thank you. You know, I've been looking at

00:17:03.640 this amazing protest blockade in the Alberta, Montana border crossing, and the police tried to

00:17:10.760 move on the truckers, but the truckers did not move away. And the farmers came out, the local farmers

00:17:15.660 came out. And it goes back to the principles of modern policing that were outlined by Sir Robert Peel

00:17:21.140 about 200 years ago in Britain. And I can sum it up this way. Modern policing in a liberal democracy

00:17:27.580 only works with the consent of the people. If you're in a police state like North Korea,

00:17:32.640 you can do whatever you want. But in Canada, the United States, Great Britain, Australia,

00:17:37.900 you generally have to have the people on side or it's not going to work. So you had, I don't know,

00:17:42.320 20 Mounties try to take on 500 big burly truckers. The truckers held the line and the Mounties ran away.

00:17:50.220 And seriously, unless they're willing to do violence to these peaceful truckers,

00:17:55.340 there is a standoff here. There is a crisis in confidence in lockdownism. And you can already

00:18:00.500 see changes. The leader of Canada's conservative opposition was thrown out because he wasn't

00:18:05.220 receptive enough to the truckers. Last night, the premier of Alberta rescinded his vaccine passport.

00:18:13.200 He still is allowing private vaccine passports, but he's ended his. The province of Saskatchewan is

00:18:19.040 ending theirs. So these truckers are, are like a mighty tidal wave and they're, they're stymieing

00:18:25.780 the Mounties and other police, but politicians had either better get paddling or they're going to be

00:18:31.660 washed over. And it's amazing. You know, in 1984, the book by George Orwell, there's this one line,

00:18:37.480 if there's any hope, it lies with the proles, the proletariat, the working class. And that's coming

00:18:43.620 true. There's some ideas that are so dumb. Only a PhD would believe that like a trucker needs a

00:18:49.400 vaccine mandate. Yeah. I mean, what, what's next lighthouse keepers, you know, it doesn't make any

00:18:54.380 sense. These truckers kept us going when everyone else was scared in those early days, everyone was

00:18:59.340 scared. The truckers were not scared, or maybe they were scared, but they managed their fear and now

00:19:03.820 we're punishing them. So get out of the way. The working classes are saving us.

00:19:08.220 And the reason Trudeau won't meet with them. And the reason why, you know, they're trying still to

00:19:12.580 steal the diesel and make it go away is because the citizenry of Canada is very left-leaning.

00:19:18.880 And most of the, not all, but, but most of the people who are being listened to there sound like

00:19:25.600 this young woman, whose soundbite we pulled, I'm not sure where we got this from. Debbie will tell me,

00:19:31.080 but she seems to be more representative of the folks on the street. Oh, she's from,

00:19:35.320 I think she's from Ottawa. Okay. Listen, a lot of the citizens of Ottawa and center town feel that

00:19:40.680 they can't even leave their home safely. I feel lucky enough that I can leave and go get coffee

00:19:45.200 and go to the drugstore right now. They just don't understand like the impact that this is having on

00:19:49.880 people here, I guess. You're visibly shaking. Your body is shaking. You are crying. Why is that?

00:19:55.900 Well, it's been a week of constant honking, constant hate in social media, walking just down the street.

00:20:02.500 It's hate. People are being harassed for wearing masks. It's just, it's upsetting. It's just,

00:20:07.400 it's emotionally draining right now being here and not agreeing with them.

00:20:12.540 Okay. First of all, you don't need to wear a mask outside. I mean, even America, even in the blue

00:20:16.820 states, which are crazy, we got rid of that a long time ago, sweetheart, take that mask off your face

00:20:20.360 when you're outside. You don't get COVID outside. Okay. Number one. And that's why maybe you should

00:20:24.120 listen when not to harass her, but when people are saying, take the mask off, you don't, maybe you should

00:20:28.200 listen, try listening, get Justin Trudeau to try listening to the truckers who are making very valid

00:20:35.060 points. Not all of them, not, but as a group, they don't want to be subjected to a vaccine mandate

00:20:41.660 that that doesn't effectively let them cross over the U S border and then back into Canada. That's

00:20:46.360 essentially the place they're in. And she is treating honking as if she's a, she's a shut in.

00:20:53.460 She can't leave her house. Meanwhile, she's like, Oh, I can go to the drugstore and I can get coffee,

00:20:57.160 but there are the people and they're honking. They're honking Ezra.

00:21:01.160 You know what? I, I, I can imagine honking being irritating. And I should tell you that that's,

00:21:06.660 that's done now. The judge did grant an anti honking court order. And so if that was what I

00:21:13.100 think people are, I have no sympathy for the honking. I spent the last 17 years in Manhattan.

00:21:17.240 That is called life in a big city for us, but exactly. And by the way, if you're sampling people

00:21:23.680 right downtown Ottawa, there's a good chance that she may be a political staffer, a lobbyist,

00:21:28.600 like the, the truckers are right near parliament Hill. They're not in suburban areas. So I don't

00:21:32.800 know who that young lady was and I hope she feels better, but by the way, Ottawa has been locked down

00:21:38.900 by the government for most of the past two years, the province of Quebec, eight and a half million

00:21:43.480 people had a curfew from 10 PM till 5 AM. So what she says, I, I go out for coffee. You weren't

00:21:50.340 allowed to go out for coffee in Quebec from 10 PM to 5 AM. You were, if you were on the streets,

00:21:55.220 police would arrest you sick or healthy, vaxxed or not. Um, they treated everyone like children

00:22:01.140 or like criminals. So I'm, I'm very glad that these people have found their sensitivity now over

00:22:06.120 a few days of honking, but where were they about two years of some of the harshest lockdowns in the

00:22:11.860 world. Yeah. I want to say this. I mean, yes, Canada is a left-leaning country. I, I know that

00:22:18.740 more than most as a rare conservative up here, but this has smashed party lines. Like I say,

00:22:24.860 if you were a green person who didn't, or a skeptic of big corporations or, or government censorship,

00:22:30.780 like those are all things that people on the left believe in too. And in Canada, such a large number

00:22:36.660 of truckers are South Asian, they're, they're Sikh or other minorities. So, so these are people who

00:22:41.900 traditionally might've voted for the parties of the left. This trucker rebellion genuinely

00:22:46.760 cuts across all parties. I have seen so many people who used to be sort of natural health people,

00:22:53.120 you know, a little bit age of Aquarius types, people who would never vote right wing in their life.

00:22:57.800 They feel like their parties have abandoned them and they'll, they'll side with anyone who will just

00:23:02.080 keep the government, keep your laws off my body is those people are now with the truckers. It's

00:23:09.180 topsy turvy. It's amazing to watch. It's the trucker spring. Yeah. The trucker spring well said

00:23:16.020 while we're seeing it here to, um, more blue state voters getting red pilled by the minute.

00:23:21.120 That's why the mask mandates are coming down fast over here. And I hope you see the same on the

00:23:26.320 mandates up there. Ezra, we'll check back in with you, uh, as this thing is not over, not by a long shot

00:23:30.620 coming up. The latest on those mask mandates in New York state, uh, our governor Hochul. She just

00:23:36.120 held a presser this morning. Uh, and we're very happy to have GOP candidate for governor, Rob

00:23:41.060 Astorino with us. He's the guy who foiled that video of, uh, the Biden administration flying

00:23:47.980 migrants into Westchester County, New York in the dead of night. Right. Remember that he got all that.

00:23:53.900 Anyway, we'll talk to him about where that's going and what, what are the lies he says the

00:23:57.880 Biden administration is telling about this. New York governor Kathy Hochul just announcing

00:24:09.680 that effective tomorrow, the statewide mask mandate will be lifted for indoor businesses. Oh,

00:24:16.740 thank you, your highness. Thank you so much. But forced masking will continue for the children of

00:24:22.940 New York state until at least early March. Rob Astorino is a Republican running against Hochul

00:24:30.040 for the governor's mansion. And he joins me now. Thank you so much for being here, Rob. How are

00:24:33.960 you? I'm good, Megan. I think technically she likes to be called your Royal Highness, not just your

00:24:38.600 highness. Okay. I'll make sure I amend that next time. Boy, we thought she'd be better than Andrew

00:24:43.780 Cuomo. We thought wrong. She loves the lockdown. She loves the masks. She had an out when that trial

00:24:50.580 court said, you know what? You didn't have the authority to issue these mask mandates,

00:24:53.680 so they cannot be enforced. She had an out to just say, you know what? I didn't have the emergency

00:24:58.280 powers. Sorry, New Yorkers. I tried. Nope. She's biting it tooth and nail in, in court. And if I'm not

00:25:05.160 mistaken, Rob, this is a woman who actually wears a necklace that reads vaccinated. Vaxed. Yeah.

00:25:11.840 Yeah. Vaxed. That's like, that's like a MAGA hat for her. It's crazy. All right. It would be funny

00:25:18.360 if it weren't actually affecting our children day in and day out. And, um, what do you make of it now?

00:25:23.940 Her, her reluctance as expressed this morning, it's like, okay, indoor masking fine for businesses,

00:25:29.340 but those kids, no, not yet. Nope. Yeah. I think you're a hundred percent right. She had an out

00:25:35.240 and she just had to say, look, I respect the decision of the courts. I was going to end this

00:25:41.140 mandate anyway. Um, so let's just all kind of get back to normal and the masks that aren't necessary for

00:25:47.700 kids are coming off. She didn't, she doubled down. Uh, I called her a governor, Kathy spiteful on

00:25:54.780 Twitter, uh, the other night when she just, again, brushed aside everything. And it's this lust for

00:26:01.900 power. And I think part of it too, is she's got a democratic primary. So she is really just focused

00:26:08.580 like a laser on the far left radicals in her party. And you can tell by the polling, you can tell by

00:26:16.380 walking around the streets of Manhattan who loves these mask mandates, who's irrational during this

00:26:23.240 COVID time. And that's who she's focused on. And so they support all these mandates for vaccinations,

00:26:29.940 lose your job. If you don't get facts, mask these kids 24 seven. I think that's really who she's

00:26:37.520 laser focused on and everybody else can go to hell. And so she did have an opportunity. She didn't,

00:26:43.300 she's doubling down and she's not following the science whatsoever. It's just political theater,

00:26:49.000 political science at this point. We have a picture of her up for, again, if you want to

00:26:52.020 check it on a YouTube of her wearing her stupid vaxxed necklace. I mean, it's ridiculous. The

00:26:55.620 virtue signaling, like just stop it. Right. And, and she won't, she had, she doesn't have much of a

00:27:00.800 choice in terms of getting rid of the mandate on a statewide level because now we've seen New Jersey

00:27:05.860 say they're going to do it. Delaware say they're going to do it. Connecticut say they're going to do it.

00:27:09.080 Even Oregon said that they're going to do it. So she can't, she can't be the last woman standing in

00:27:14.480 an election year, but man, is she slow rolling it. And even, you know, my state of Connecticut,

00:27:20.360 I just moved. They're like, Oh yes, no more mass for kids as of two 28, but only if your local

00:27:26.520 officials say it's okay. So really they just punted it to the locals. Right. And now it'll depend on the

00:27:31.040 politics city to city. Yep. And school board to school board. And so that's the wrong way to go

00:27:37.240 about it. It's either right or it's wrong. And in this case, it's completely wrong. It's completely

00:27:42.120 unnecessary for those who say they follow the science. It's been pretty clear now for well

00:27:47.660 over a year, even the CDC did a study and published it last May that said that there really is no

00:27:54.620 significant difference whatsoever in schools that had mask mandates for schools that didn't. You see

00:28:00.120 worldwide places like Sweden that went during the height of COVID kids were in school, in their,

00:28:06.060 in their classrooms, no mask, no social distancing, normal lives, no different. And we see the battles

00:28:12.800 in the States, right? Some are more loose and had less lockdowns, no mandates. You know, the free state

00:28:19.060 of Florida is one example. And he was viciously attacked as death Santis because he dared step out

00:28:25.360 of the, out of the box. And he was right. And here in New York, it's like, I think she is going to be the

00:28:30.860 last one standing. If Oregon, for God's sakes, Oregon is lifting these mandates. She is just

00:28:37.440 headstrong in trying to pretend that she's on top of things and she's making an executive decision.

00:28:44.600 Part of being an executive and a leader is admitting that things have changed and, and to

00:28:49.740 pivot differently. She's not willing to do that. My daughter, who's 12, my other daughter, who's 17,

00:28:55.720 I have a son who's 18 and college just started. None of them are vaccinated. We, as parents feel

00:29:01.760 they don't need to be based on the statistics, overwhelmingly, they don't need to be. But if

00:29:07.540 parents want to get their kid vaccinated, you know what, that's up to you, mom and dad and your child,

00:29:12.320 but don't force me and don't force my kids in order to be educated in New York to have to get a

00:29:18.940 vaccination. And that's where they're going. So I think she's completely off base. She's totally wrong

00:29:24.180 on the science and data. And yet she's sticking with this. I gotta be honest. Kathy Hochul does not

00:29:29.880 seem very smart to me. I'm sorry, but she doesn't. She doesn't seem like the brightest bulb. Open

00:29:35.220 minded to more brightness on her part, but I have yet to see it. It's not it's we're no longer at the

00:29:40.300 point where we can pretend the masking isn't doing harm. More and more parents are showing up at the

00:29:44.720 school board meetings and saying this is wrong. It has to stop now. And it's not victimless. There was a man

00:29:50.160 he was on Twitter. I think it was Michael Brendan Doherty of a national review who tweeted it out

00:29:54.460 and tweeted it out and I retweeted it. Naperville, Illinois, another blue state talking about his

00:30:00.360 child. I think he said she's 10 and talking about how she I think because the full clip didn't he

00:30:07.780 referenced it, but he wasn't clear. But I think she has a speech impediment. And so can you imagine

00:30:11.800 how hard the masking is for this child? Listen to him. Listen to how the damage these mandates have

00:30:18.220 done. I can only name a few people in her life that have harmed her and actively participated in

00:30:23.720 holding her back and stopping her progress. And almost every one of them is in this room tonight.

00:30:29.580 We have seen two years of almost no growth. Miss goals. Goals removed. My 10 year old daughter

00:30:36.060 has kept these feelings to herself about how much she desperately wants to take her mask off.

00:30:41.420 When we told her that may be possible on Monday, she cried tears. This morning she got up before us

00:30:49.700 and she started singing a song to her dolls about how excited she was that kids were finally going

00:30:55.060 to be able to see her smile, that she was going to be able to see other kids smiles, that kids would

00:31:00.340 be able to understand her and she would stop being picked on because they could not understand her

00:31:05.620 through her mask because her speech has been delayed even more than her special needs.

00:31:12.940 She is a strong girl. But when I heard her do that, and I heard the things that she said,

00:31:19.300 it broke me. I will never forgive myself for not fighting more. I feel that I have failed her

00:31:26.080 for not fighting more. While you say that there's no lost learning, the vulnerable like my daughter

00:31:34.080 have lost. And she won't get these things back, but you have failed them.

00:31:39.640 Time.

00:31:40.580 On behalf of the whole board, thank you for your comments. I'm just going to remind all individuals

00:31:45.940 in this audience and in our overflow rooms, need to have on a mask.

00:31:52.180 Oh my God.

00:31:52.760 Oh my God.

00:31:54.000 Oh my God.

00:31:55.060 Oh, you know, I have to say, Megan, I feel the same as that gentleman. And I know a lot of

00:32:03.140 parents feel the same way. And I'll say something I haven't said to anybody. You know, my daughter,

00:32:08.300 who's 12, she's in middle school. I mean, this is a tough age, right? As you're growing up, boy or

00:32:13.460 girl, but she has braces. She, um, she just feels now that this mask is covering up her inefficiencies,

00:32:24.380 right? I mean, she's 12. So everything is a competition about looks and everything else.

00:32:30.020 And she said, you know, I, I almost like wearing the mask now because people won't see my braces and,

00:32:36.980 and, um, you know, my pimple here. And, and my wife and I had sat with her and said,

00:32:42.420 Ashlyn, this is not, wearing masks is not normal. And you feel, you'll feel so much better about

00:32:50.920 yourself and seeing people smile and just being normal again. And she understood it. And she took

00:32:56.480 a stand the other day, uh, Monday, we said to her, we want you to go to school. You're not going to wear

00:33:03.540 your mask. And if the principal or the teacher says anything to you, you tell them I'm not wearing

00:33:08.760 my mask anymore. I don't want to, and call my dad or my mom. So she did. And one other girl did it

00:33:16.480 with her. And it's tough because, you know, these kids shouldn't be in the middle of this from bad

00:33:22.120 decisions by adults. And some of her teachers are really good about it. And some are just the,

00:33:26.700 you know, the, the mask sheriffs. So she went to the principal's office and he called,

00:33:32.400 called us. And we just said, look, we all know it's not normal. Okay. I've had to miss my daughter's

00:33:38.040 first ever games in, in her high school uniform as a basketball player, because we weren't allowed

00:33:43.960 to go in and watch in a big gym because of these idiotic mandates. And I've missed other moments for

00:33:50.600 my kid. And, and she has missed moments in the last two years, not being in school. And we've seen,

00:33:56.220 and it's so empirical, the evidence about the remote learning, the distance learning,

00:33:59.560 how bad it has been for kids, especially, especially for kids, lower income families,

00:34:06.480 minorities, they are disproportionately hurt those in school districts that aren't as good as the top

00:34:11.760 level ones. And we just want fricking normalcy for our kids. We just want to get back to a time where

00:34:18.240 we all can make adult decisions, whether we wear this or not. And, and we're going to do what's best

00:34:24.120 for our kids and not these politicians who are just stuck on their talking points from two years

00:34:31.920 ago. Yeah. It's not March of 2020. It's not, it's an interesting point about her insecurities and

00:34:37.260 feeling like, okay, the mask is helping me hide them. She, they, they go away over time on their own,

00:34:43.640 because when you're in middle school, when no one's wearing a mask, you see everyone has braces.

00:34:49.440 Everyone has acne. Everyone is going through what I'm going through. And so she's never going to know

00:34:55.120 that until they let them remove these needless, ridiculous face coverings. I mean, I laugh in our

00:35:00.480 schools, I laugh and cry because now they're enforcing the mask mandate. If, if, if it falls below our

00:35:06.840 children's nose, the nostrils, like at all, they get screamed at, they could get something. It's

00:35:12.980 basically like a black ball or demerit. And if you get five, you have a detention, they get screamed

00:35:17.420 at. And meanwhile, these are cloth masks they're wearing, which we already know do nothing, but we

00:35:24.020 still have to put the children through the, through the fear and the theater of, if it goes below the

00:35:28.160 nostrils, it's like the, it's like the airplane seat, you know, like Ellen DeGeneres does a skit,

00:35:32.140 like it's, it's back one inch, uh, die. It's, it's, right. Who are we kidding? It's infuriating.

00:35:41.760 And even now, even now, right. We have Michael Cardona, the secretary of education out there

00:35:48.480 saying not yet. No, I need to be really cautious. Like I'm sick of these people who know nothing

00:35:55.700 about public health or care or the, the wide swath of, not just Corona virus, but the, the full,

00:36:01.100 we we've got it. Okay. Here's Cardona weighing in. What do you think districts should follow

00:36:07.280 in order to, to, to make these decisions and whether it's safe or not?

00:36:11.800 You know, again, you know, we listened to the CDC guidance around, uh, masking. We know it works.

00:36:18.220 We were at 47% of the schools fully open at the beginning of the Biden administration. We're at

00:36:23.360 about a hundred percent now, uh, because we followed those mitigation strategies and really

00:36:27.500 pleased that the numbers are getting better, but I still say we need to proceed with caution and make

00:36:33.260 sure that our health experts are at the table when we're making decisions. Do you think masks

00:36:37.660 hinder kids learning? You know what hinders kids learning being quarantined? Because those are our only

00:36:44.100 two choices. Yeah. Wear the mask or quarantined. I don't know if they're lying or if they're just

00:36:50.940 sticking with the script that they, that they've been told to stick with. And they don't want to

00:36:55.320 admit that things have changed or that they could have been wrong, but either way, they look like

00:36:59.060 morons now. And, you know, Megan, it's, it's interesting because in our schools and in like

00:37:06.560 CYO basketball and all these public places where these kids are supposed to wear their mask, even

00:37:12.260 adults, a lot of times it's become just, everyone's like pretending. So you have this COVID vaccine

00:37:19.180 passport on your phone. You're supposed to show, you can show a picture of your grandmother and

00:37:23.360 they're like, okay, go ahead. Or these masks go down to, you know, below the nose or on the

00:37:28.180 chin strap and nobody's saying anything because everyone is realizing now it's just a farce,

00:37:33.720 but they, they're still pretending to play by the rules, even though they know it's stupid.

00:37:38.600 So they won't go as far as saying you don't have to wear it, but just like keep it around your ear

00:37:42.840 and somewhere so we can pretend that it's there. Just pull a Gavin Newsome is what they're saying.

00:37:46.900 Pull a Gavin Newsome. Great. I will wait. Now when you come back, we're going to squeeze,

00:37:50.680 squeeze in a quick break. And when we come back, I want to talk to you about this viral video,

00:37:55.680 the smashing grab that went on a Westchester mall. That's, this is your jurisdiction,

00:38:00.900 in the Louis Vuitton store, crazy video. We'll talk about that in the video you got

00:38:05.360 at the Westchester airport of Joe Biden sending migrants up here and then just dispersing them.

00:38:12.120 We don't know where that's next. Don't go away. And don't forget folks,

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00:38:35.880 So Rob, you tweeted out this video this morning. It's gone totally viral of a Westchester mall

00:38:47.240 where the, the smash and grab robberies continue. We've seen it a lot in California. Now we're seeing

00:38:52.880 it here in New York. I mean, again, all these soft on crime jurisdictions are, as I said yesterday,

00:38:57.620 canaries in the coal mine for the rest of the country. If you should be so unfortunate

00:39:00.800 as to have George Soros fund the election of your DA. Um, so the video is crazy. It shows these guys

00:39:07.300 going into Louis Vuitton in the mall, smashing, I guess, and grabbing. And the, the video shows

00:39:13.840 as far as I can see the guard outside of the store doing absolutely nothing. The fierce employees in

00:39:20.840 the store are fighting. If I were, if I were the owner of the store in this product lab, be given all

00:39:26.000 those employees a raise. And then apparently they left and they went to another store in the mall and did

00:39:30.680 it again? Different days, but yeah, they hit the Burberry store. They heard Louis Vuitton and they hit

00:39:35.460 another one, uh, late at night over the last month in the Westchester mall in white plains. That's the mall

00:39:41.640 I go to. That's the mall that families would go to. They would feel safe. They'd walk around, spend time

00:39:47.500 together. And I have to tell you, I can't tell you how many people over the last week or so has said to me,

00:39:55.060 they're just not letting their kids go there. They're not going there. They're just, and what I, you know,

00:39:59.760 Megan, so many people think that it's over there, right? The crime is in New York city. I live in

00:40:06.320 Westchester. I live in the suburbs. It's in New York city. Now they're realizing it's not over there.

00:40:12.480 It's everywhere, including in our own neighborhoods, in our own malls, auto thefts in our own driveways,

00:40:18.640 burglaries in our stores. And if we're going to continue down this path of coddling criminals,

00:40:24.640 handcuffing the police, shaming crime victims, letting them out immediately, um, emptying the

00:40:32.460 prisons, which is something Kathy Hochul has done, uh, having a parole board that literally releases

00:40:40.020 24 cop killers in the last two years. That's the Cuomo Hochul record. These are the kinds of things

00:40:46.840 that they're not just absurd. They're actually very dangerous. And we're seeing the results of

00:40:51.640 these policies where the Manhattan district attorney says, yeah, I don't like those crimes.

00:40:56.680 I'm not going to, I'm not going to prosecute them. You rob a bank with a gun, but you don't

00:41:00.740 really use it. Yeah. It'll be petty larceny. These emboldened criminals to do what they did at the

00:41:05.960 Westchester. And people want to see that video go on at Rob Astorino on Twitter or Facebook or

00:41:12.340 robastorino.com and you'll see it. And it's so brazen, but it really is putting us all in jeopardy.

00:41:18.660 You know, I was at the funeral for the NYPD officers. I was at St. Patrick's Cathedral

00:41:23.800 and it was, it was so gut wrenching to, to obviously to be there and emotional. And when

00:41:31.680 one of the family members was directly talking to the politicians like Kathy Hochul and Schumer

00:41:38.100 and all these other soft on crime radicals, she was pleading with them among her tears to just

00:41:44.500 fix these crimes. You know, these laws go after the criminals and, and stop this nonsense.

00:41:51.420 And then you'd have the hypocrites like Kathy Hochul politely applause. And then she went outside.

00:41:56.600 And when the press asked her about the no cash bail, whether she would revoke it, she said, no,

00:42:02.020 I think, you know, the law is working the way it should. And yeah, it's just, it's, it's like head in

00:42:08.200 the sand nonsense. But again, it's just, it's the radicalism that has taken hold in New York city

00:42:13.780 and in New York state and across the country with these AOCs that they're so afraid of instead of

00:42:18.540 standing up to them. And we, uh, normal people. Two things. There's a headline in the daily mail

00:42:24.780 today out of Seattle showing it's very disturbing. Um, a suspect 31 years old, uh, arrested after just

00:42:33.140 out of nowhere coming up with a baseball bat. And I mean, swinging, like he was swinging for a home

00:42:39.380 run, um, knocking, cracking the skull of this innocent woman who was walking down the street.

00:42:44.520 He had been committed 26 times, um, robbery, theft, domestic violence, roaming the streets.

00:42:50.060 We're seeing it in city after city. Innocent people are being hurt. We actually do have the

00:42:54.140 smash and grab, uh, robbery video. We'll show you a part of it for the folks you're going to watch

00:42:57.980 on YouTube, but you, you get something out of listening to it here too. Here it is.

00:43:27.980 It's amazing. It's amazing to think of parents walking through the mall with their kids,

00:43:33.320 you know, trying to get like a, you know, a treat, a funnel cake, and they have to deal with that.

00:43:38.480 And honestly, Rob, you, you were the one who called attention, you, the New York post,

00:43:41.780 um, to what's happening at the Westchester airport with the Joe Biden's migrant caravan.

00:43:46.640 Basically he, the white house says, Oh, we're, it's only minors. We have to find minors homes.

00:43:52.500 That's why we sent them. And it wasn't the dead of night. Peter Doocy said, well, it's two,

00:43:56.460 two AM and 4 AM. What, you know, what would you call that? Um, and they say now, Rob,

00:44:01.400 it's okay because they do have to find homes for minors and that's all they sent. What say you?

00:44:06.440 First of all, they, they have completely lied and deflected. And naturally when I exposed all this

00:44:13.120 and asked questions, basic questions like, okay, even, even if it is just unaccompanied children,

00:44:18.860 and I know that's not the case, what schools are they going to? Are they vaccinated? Have we done

00:44:24.520 background checks? These aren't just little six-year-olds with backpacks. These are young

00:44:29.060 adults. These are boys, 17, 18 years old as well. And what's the scoop? Tell us. I mean,

00:44:35.560 this is a public safety issue, a public health issue, the public's right to know you're sending

00:44:40.700 them from the Southern border and you're literally taking that crisis and moving it now to the entire

00:44:45.920 interior of the country. So now every community is a border community and we don't have a right to

00:44:50.640 know. And, you know, they scream, you're a racist, you're, you're a bigot, you're a xenophobe.

00:44:55.640 That's all they know how to do, but they won't answer the questions. And so we kept showing up and

00:45:00.620 asking. And then I got this video from Westchester County police, which I foiled. And it's, I mean,

00:45:06.240 it is an eye opener. It's in the, in the middle of the night, these planes are unloading and the police

00:45:12.720 officer asked these, these contractors like, Hey, what's going on here? And, and candidly,

00:45:18.060 they're like, we do this in the middle of the night. So nobody finds out this is supposed to

00:45:21.200 be on the down low, the hush hush, because if people did find out the media found out people

00:45:25.980 would be upset and this would be a betrayal of the American people. So it's just, everything is

00:45:32.520 completely and utterly broken down in our country, right? There's no normalcy anymore. There's no

00:45:37.040 respect for laws or people, and it's just upside down. And so I and others are getting off the couch

00:45:44.660 and, and fighting back to save our sovereignty, to save our laws, to save our country.

00:45:49.460 All right. Do me a favor, 15 seconds or less. What say you to Andrew Cuomo, who now says he never

00:45:53.660 should have resigned. He claims he's been exonerated because no one's chosen to bring

00:45:57.660 criminal charges against him, uh, and that he's done nothing wrong. And he, and he might,

00:46:02.840 he might run again. He might run again.

00:46:04.520 Yeah. Oh, please do. You're a thug. Uh, you should never ever have been, um, exonerated of these

00:46:11.000 Janice Dean. God bless her for bringing up all these issues with nursing home deaths and many

00:46:16.180 others. And just try it. Cause I think New Yorkers are fed up with your nonsense as well.

00:46:21.200 Exactly. And of course he hasn't been exonerated. It's just because they can't

00:46:24.940 prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. Doesn't mean you didn't do it. You know, I mean, it's absurd.

00:46:30.440 Um, anyway, Rob, very interesting to watch. I know your main competition is Lee Zeldin. Um,

00:46:36.400 at this point, I think a lot of New Yorkers would take anybody who had an R after their name,

00:46:40.400 uh, but we'll find out. Cause it's a very blue state. I lived in it my whole life until the last

00:46:44.340 couple of months. And, uh, we'll, we'll see. We'll love to check back in with you as time goes

00:46:48.560 on. All right. Uh, don't, don't miss our next segment because Ben Shapiro is here. He's got a

00:46:53.460 new movie coming out this week and we'll talk to him about Rochelle Walensky too.

00:47:02.980 Joining me now, Ben Shapiro, editor emeritus of dailywire.com,

00:47:08.660 host of the Ben Shapiro show and executive producer of the daily wires latest film shut

00:47:14.520 in. Hello emeritus. What's going on, Ben? How are you doing? Good. Congrats on the film. I watched it.

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00:47:27.520 you on the edge of your seat. You don't know what's going to happen to this poor woman.

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00:49:01.000 it and, and that's going to be great. That's coming out in the next few months. And we have

00:49:04.460 another movie that that's going to be kind of a surprise. We have a bunch of stuff that's coming

00:49:07.340 out. So, uh, we're hoping for, for folks to support us because if you don't support us,

00:49:11.060 then who's going to make this stuff. Uh, frankly, it's, it is amazing how Hollywood is,

00:49:16.520 is so unbelievably one-sided that when you just watch a film that doesn't overtly smack you in the face,

00:49:21.060 like, well, that was pleasant. That's how bad it's become.

00:49:23.740 It's so true. You can't turn on your TV. You can't turn on a streaming service. You can't

00:49:26.760 turn on, you know, any sort of Apple TV or movie, whatever, without getting lectured to these days,

00:49:30.600 you've got like the latest cause of the month. It's something about identity politics. Then

00:49:34.580 the movie's all about wokeness. Somebody's woke battle. You can't avoid it. And yet you've got

00:49:39.660 shows like Yellowstone, which, you know, they didn't start in the cities out and then grow in

00:49:43.920 where they started in the inner city and grew outward that are crushing everything. So there's a

00:49:48.500 market for this. If only people would open their eyes.

00:49:51.420 There's no question. The thing that's irritating about Yellowstone is it started off

00:49:54.840 as a kind of dark Western. And, and then it's as though they got uncomfortable with the fact that

00:50:00.860 it's such a, a kind of congenitally right-wing show. And so they started making overt left-wing

00:50:05.780 moves. I don't know if you watched the last season of Yellowstone, but I did last season of

00:50:09.000 Yellowstone has, uh, has Kevin Costner, who is supposed to be this grizzled rancher, billionaire

00:50:13.560 rancher, who's kind of the hero of the show. And his love interest is a radical environmentalist

00:50:18.080 who's getting arrested for protest. It's, it's really, it's, it's quite absurd.

00:50:21.540 You have a good point. My other frustration with movie, with the series Yellowstone is

00:50:25.500 they write the, the, the character played by Kelly Riley is, you know, very interesting,

00:50:30.280 Beth, but they, she's clearly written by a man. I mean, no, like she's only got one sort of mode

00:50:35.680 and it's like the most crass mouth, toughest man ever. And this is clearly a man's version of what

00:50:40.260 a tough woman looks and sounds like. That's exactly right. The worst job in the world is

00:50:44.640 being some sort of low level wage employee working at the front desk of any business.

00:50:50.120 When Beth Dutton walks in, that's just the worst job in the entire world. If you're, if you're

00:50:53.800 somebody's assistant, if you're like a waiter, she's just going to come in and abuse you for

00:50:57.040 no reason. And it's pretty clear that Taylor Sheridan, listen, the dude's doing an amazing

00:51:00.400 job in the sense that he's currently writing, I believe three separate shows on TV simultaneously.

00:51:04.680 And he's got 1883 going in this one, and then he's got mayor of Easttown. Um, and the,

00:51:08.800 all, all of that is to say that it's pretty obvious that with Yellowstone,

00:51:12.680 he basically has about 30 minutes of material. And then he's like, what if we just have Beth

00:51:16.120 yell at somebody for 30 minutes? Like, I just, I got nothing. I'm going to show those horses again

00:51:20.640 with their crazy, like, they run and they can stop on a dime. Right? Like, anyway, I still enjoy it.

00:51:24.880 I love it. But yeah, point taken. Oh yeah. No, I'm like, hate, love watching it. Right. Like,

00:51:28.580 I really enjoy it, but it's terrible. I mean, like, like the plot, the last season,

00:51:33.220 I had a full 15 minute review of the last season on YouTube. And I got to say the last episode of

00:51:38.440 last season is one of the most ridiculous things that has ever been committed to film. It is so

00:51:42.120 silly, but it's definitely, but honestly, if there are cowboy hats and an occasional gun and

00:51:48.700 horsies, I will watch it. Yes. And you know, as you know, we have a place in Montana. So it's like

00:51:52.940 any reason to look at that skyscape and enjoy the scenery. Yeah, I'll take it. But it does make me

00:51:59.500 want to be a rancher and I want her wardrobe. Okay. More importantly, let's come back here to the

00:52:03.580 United States or to the East coast where Rochelle Walensky resides down in the DC area. And Ben is

00:52:09.560 the States one by one that the blue States are starting to say, all right, you can take the mask

00:52:13.860 off. I love how they're like, yes, you can take the mask off in two months. Right? Like, okay,

00:52:18.500 we'll take what we can get sadly. But Rochelle Walensky ever the party pooper comes out and says

00:52:25.280 the following here she is. We continue to recommend universal masking in our schools.

00:52:31.340 Um, and so our guidance has not changed. And what I will say is in this current moment,

00:52:36.480 I'm pleased to say that about 96% of our children are in schools and that the masking has allowed

00:52:42.460 them to be in school safely that and getting our children vaccinated. Oh my God. Shut up. Shut

00:52:49.600 up, Rochelle. I can't stand her. She is the weakest. She's the opposite of Beth Dutton. She is the weakest

00:52:54.100 woman walking. I've never seen somebody so pathetically scared and weak all the time in a leadership

00:52:59.000 position. If it's up to her or Fauci, they're never coming off. And everyone has to be mandated

00:53:04.540 vaccine two minutes after they're out of the womb. It's horrifying. I mean, honestly, our public health

00:53:10.540 officials have blown this every way, but, but Luce, it's, it's, it's amazing how badly they have

00:53:14.660 blown this. When she says things like what's kept schools open is masks and vaccinations. I have a

00:53:20.060 question. Why is it that schools in Florida have been consistently open for well over a year at this

00:53:24.440 point? Most of them without masks. And when vaccinations were not available for five-year

00:53:28.800 olds, by the way, I have three kids, eight, five, and, and almost two, and none of them are

00:53:33.380 vaccinated because the longitudinal data on vaccinations for kids is really shoddy. And none

00:53:38.040 of them are actually going to get seriously ill. In fact, they all had Omicron and they were all fine

00:53:42.020 because they are children because children generally speaking are fine from this disease.

00:53:46.080 The grand total number of people under the age of 18 who have died from any form of COVID,

00:53:50.380 Omicron Delta, the original, any of those for two years is below 800. Last time I checked,

00:53:56.000 according to her own agency, the CDC. Okay. That's for two years. More kids have died of

00:54:00.940 pneumonia on a year by year basis than have died from COVID in the last couple of years under the

00:54:06.060 age of 18. And yet she's saying that what kept schools open are masks that by the way,

00:54:10.280 everyone now understands if they are cloth masks, they're completely useless against Omicron.

00:54:14.440 And there were many of us who were shouting this in the wilderness for a while that,

00:54:16.660 that even the original variant cloth masks weren't doing very much. And, and maybe if you

00:54:20.360 could make the argument for N95s or something, maybe, but then with Delta, there was no good

00:54:24.260 data whatsoever on cloth masks or even surgical masks, right? The study that they like to cite,

00:54:28.820 I believe it was from Malaysia. That particular study was done on the original variant, not on

00:54:32.560 Delta, which was twice as transmissible as the original variant. And none of it was done on Omicron,

00:54:36.420 which is 70 times as transmissible as Delta, meaning it's 140 times as transmissible as the

00:54:41.040 original variant. All of this is unbelievably silly. Kids never were capable of wearing these masks

00:54:46.280 properly in the first place. My wife, who of course is a doctor, she was trained in the use of

00:54:50.360 personal protective equipment when she was working in a hospital. There's an actual thing you have

00:54:54.100 to do. It's painful, by the way. N95s, if worn properly, are super duper uncomfortable. That is

00:54:58.920 the purpose of them, is to be super duper uncomfortable because they create a tight seal

00:55:02.600 around your face. Nobody's been wearing masks properly for a couple of years. And yet we're

00:55:06.360 supposed to believe that my five-year-old son, who's been forced to wear a mask, is like, that's

00:55:11.260 what prevented him from getting sick, seriously ill, as opposed to, you know, just being five.

00:55:15.540 The whole thing is insipid and insane. And these people are out of their minds.

00:55:19.320 And what's making, I'm not sure what's making me more crazy. The fact that Rochelle Walensky

00:55:22.500 and Fauci, to a certain extent, are sticking to their, let's lock everything down guns,

00:55:27.240 or the fact that Democrats are now realizing, the light has dawned upon them, that they need

00:55:31.700 to loosen these restrictions. And then they lie and they say, well, the data just changed.

00:55:35.440 The data never changed. You were just wrong and you were just lying. The data did not change.

00:55:40.280 This attempt to gaslight us into believing that you guys somehow bent the curve when you didn't

00:55:44.420 bend the curve. The attempt to gaslight us into believing that the underlying data suddenly

00:55:49.280 were made available to you and that you have been attempting this whole time to follow the

00:55:53.420 data as opposed to following your political preferences is maddening. It's maddening.

00:55:57.160 I'm not sure which one of these things is making me more crazy. The people who are hanging on to this

00:56:01.000 thing, which at least points for consistency, or the people who are reversing themselves, because

00:56:04.500 good for the people living under these tyrants. But don't gaslight me and tell me that all of

00:56:10.640 this is being done because suddenly the data have changed in a couple of weeks before Joe

00:56:14.600 Biden's State of the Union address. And one week after Stacey Abrams got completely destroyed

00:56:18.840 politically for not masking around a bunch of kids who were masked.

00:56:22.500 Ben, it's like my primary care physician said to me last week when I said, well, yogurt,

00:56:26.120 yogurt's good. He said, it's a lie. Yogurt's a lie. And this is a lie too. The truth has been

00:56:34.640 out there. If only they would open their eyes to it. And they refused because it was a democratic

00:56:38.540 virtue signal for them from the start and they wouldn't let go of it. And a fair amount of

00:56:43.520 these people on the far left have really spun themselves up into hysterics because they love

00:56:47.940 drama. They don't have busy enough lives, whatever. They can work it out with their psychiatrist.

00:56:52.560 But sadly, the rest of us have been dragged along with their craziness for far too long.

00:56:57.340 So to your point, Hakeem Jeffries, he tweeted he was actually I think he's on camera saying this.

00:57:04.180 Let's listen to him talk about how this is all thanks to Biden, the way that we're taking our

00:57:09.080 foot off the gas. Now we're restoring normalcy. Thank God for President Biden. Listen.

00:57:16.180 And the Omicron variant is in retreat. And that's not by accident. That's because under President

00:57:22.960 Biden's leadership, a public health infrastructure was put into place, beginning with the American

00:57:30.500 rescue plan without a single Republican vote to ensure that we can do everything possible to crush

00:57:37.800 the virus. And that is what has been happening. Got it. Biden crushed the virus.

00:57:47.060 It's it's it's so frustrating. The number of lies that came out of his mouth that just spewed from his

00:57:55.080 face hole in a row there. It's so it's in crazy. Like if there were a word to to describe being made

00:58:03.080 crazy like this, it is in crazy. It is what in the world. So here are the here are a few of the things

00:58:09.200 that he said that are untrue. One, it is not by accident that the curve has gone down. Oh, really?

00:58:13.580 Is that why the curve has done exactly the same thing on Omicron in every single place it has ever

00:58:18.540 taken uproot every single place from Australia to Canada to Britain to France to the United States

00:58:24.140 from Florida to New York. They all it all follows the same pattern. Omicron goes like this and then

00:58:28.200 it goes like that. It goes up and then it goes down. And Joe Biden had nothing to do with any of this

00:58:32.180 because he's not alive. He is not capable of doing anything about this. By the way, government

00:58:36.520 everywhere was not capable of stopping out in New Zealand. They had a spike of Omicron and New Zealand's

00:58:41.760 been shut down. It's like seven people, a hundred hobbits and a horse like a small horse from Parks and

00:58:47.900 Recreation. They still had an Omicron spike despite the fact they had nobody coming in or out of the

00:58:51.820 country. So first of all, there's that, which is just crazy that we're supposed to believe that it

00:58:56.940 was the testing measures that Joe Biden didn't provide that killed Omicron. So that's in crazy

00:59:01.620 thing number one. Then him citing the American rescue plan as the impetus for defeating COVID is so

00:59:08.900 out of his mind insane. The fact is that that is what helped superheat the inflation that we've seen

00:59:14.500 over the last year we were supposed to get. We had an artificially depressed economy and we put our

00:59:19.100 economy into a coma at the beginning of Omicron, at the beginning of COVID. And then we allowed it to

00:59:25.240 recover to a certain extent because we took it off life support and we allowed it to live once more. And

00:59:30.200 then they passed the stupid American recovery plan, which is $2 trillion of wasteful spending that was

00:59:35.240 injected directly into the economy when Americans had more money in their pocket already from all the dumb

00:59:39.380 spending in 2020 than they had before the pandemic. And then that was supposed to have been what saved

00:59:45.080 the economy. Hold up a second. Six weeks ago, Joe Biden was telling us that the economy was probably

00:59:49.840 going to tank in December and January for two reasons. One, because of Omicron and two, because

00:59:54.940 he wasn't going to get his Build Back Better plan. Remember this? Build Back Better was going to save

00:59:58.220 the economy without BBB. We were all going to die. If we hadn't already died of tax cuts and net

01:00:03.060 neutrality, we were going to die of lack of BBB. He didn't get any of that stuff. Omicron hit and BBB

01:00:08.580 wasn't passed. And what happened? Instead, we got a booming economy in January. So here's the new

01:00:12.100 rule. Anytime Joe Biden fails at doing anything, the country is better off. So if something good

01:00:16.880 happened, you can reliably understand that it was not Joe Biden who did it. It was Joe Biden failing

01:00:22.280 that did it. You know, he's talking about things like mask mandates and the control that they were

01:00:27.820 able to exercise over schools, thanks to that rescue plan, where the schools basically, if they want

01:00:32.960 the federal money, have to do what Rochelle wants when it comes to the masking and the mandatory

01:00:38.380 vaccines and so on. And now this thing that's become such a political hot button that half

01:00:42.600 the country's outraged about and growing. It's not just Republicans anymore. He wants to go out there

01:00:47.260 and have a spike the ball in the end zone moment about it all saying, see, it worked. It worked as

01:00:51.020 if the vaccine mandate or the mask mandates got us to the end of Omicron or to the place where the

01:00:56.660 pandemic is endemic and we can just live with it. It's so crazy. OK, the mask, the vax mandates

01:01:02.340 never went into effect for employers. The mask mandates were never in effect for a huge swath

01:01:08.560 of the country. The mask mandates that were in effect in the Northeast did not prevent an Omicron

01:01:12.280 spike anywhere in the Northeast. I mean, Joe Biden, there's only one thing the guy is good for,

01:01:16.560 and that is being wheeled out in front of a parade that's already moving. This is the consistent theme

01:01:20.100 of his presidency. From the very first day when he pretended that he was responsible for the

01:01:24.160 creation of vaccines, right, that parade was already going. He just kind of wheeled himself out

01:01:28.300 right in front of it and he said, I'm here. And then he did the same thing with vaccine

01:01:32.240 distribution. He used the exact same plan Trump was going to use. He's like, oh, I'm here.

01:01:36.700 And now he's doing the same thing with Omicron. OK, Omicron has nothing to do with you.

01:01:41.100 You fail. Your own administration admits that you were supposed to get all these at-home tests

01:01:45.700 available. None of that happened. By the time you mobilized, the at-home tests are available like

01:01:49.780 now when we're on the other side of the spike. It's just the gaslighting is what drives me

01:01:54.020 totally crazy. If they were just honest, they can't be. But if they were just honest and they said,

01:01:57.660 listen, we did the best we could. We tried to follow the data, but we got carried away

01:02:01.560 and we wanted to be more cautious. And our caution may have let us down into some bad

01:02:06.800 kind of box canyons here. But we did our best. I think the American people will be a little bit

01:02:10.900 more forgiving than they're going to be forgiving in 2022. This is not getting forgotten. No one in

01:02:15.300 America is going to forget that these schmucks made kids mask up for two years or kept them out of

01:02:19.840 school and forced people out of jobs and destroyed tens of thousands of small businesses.

01:02:24.660 Nobody is going to forget all of that. And if they think they can happy talk their way,

01:02:27.760 through their failures of governance for the last couple of years by suggesting that the data have

01:02:32.060 just changed. By the way, when we talk about the data changing, we should note the levels of infection

01:02:36.240 of Omicron right now in the United States, even on the downslope, are way higher than they were at

01:02:40.540 this time last year in terms of diagnosed cases of COVID. And we're at the highest levels of death

01:02:44.060 in the United States from Omicron than we have been for like a year. Okay, so it's not about the

01:02:48.160 changing data. It is about the fact that the American people finally had enough and they can read the

01:02:52.180 writing on the wall and they are hoping to salvage some sort of non-complete wipeout in 2022. Well,

01:02:58.020 you know, good luck. Good luck to them. I don't think it's gonna work.

01:03:00.760 Yeah. Well, I mean, another tactic might be instead of just falling on their swords and saying we got a

01:03:04.620 lot wrong and we're learning and here we go to blame the children themselves, that they're the

01:03:09.140 reason why the masks are on. And that's pretty much what Randy Weingarten did, who I think was on

01:03:14.280 NBC. Here's a soundbite. What Dr. McBride just told us about masks not particularly being effective

01:03:21.040 for children. What's the argument against taking off masks in schools? Well, the argument is that

01:03:27.300 you have, well, let me just say this. I am in favor of an off-ramp on masks. Right. The real issue

01:03:33.820 becomes, is the spread low enough so that there's no dissemination or transmission in schools?

01:03:44.280 And it's not the teachers transmitting to kids. It's more kids and kids, particularly in elementary

01:03:54.340 schools right now. Yogurt. Yogurt. It's a lie. I mean, she's just speaking nonsense. She's speaking

01:04:03.400 words that sound like a sentence but don't actually form an intelligible sentence. It's like when you

01:04:09.120 say- And it's largely her fault. It's not the kid's fault. It's not transmission from kid to kid

01:04:12.240 that's- No. No. It's her fault. Kids have been infecting each other throughout the pandemic.

01:04:16.880 No one cares. The kids are fine. Get over it. The kids are fine. You know how many tweets I've seen

01:04:20.680 over the course of the last few years? People saying, I'm just so afraid for my two-year-old.

01:04:23.800 And I keep tweeting back to them. Why are you afraid for your two-year-old? Your two-year-old

01:04:26.820 is safer unvaccinated than you are vaccinated. Right. You're an idiot. Statistically speaking.

01:04:31.060 Sorry, but you're an idiot. Unless your kid has comorbidities, you have absolutely nothing to worry

01:04:34.280 about when it comes to your two-year-old and COVID. This is correct. This is correct. I mean,

01:04:37.620 like I said, a couple of weeks ago, my eight-year-old got Omicron. You know how worried I was?

01:04:42.040 I was this worried. Zero worried. Because I'm not a moron. Because I follow the data. And you know

01:04:46.840 what? She had a fever for like three days. And then she was done. And then all her siblings got

01:04:50.380 it. And they were all fine. I mean, like, this is also insane. Randy Weingarten, here's what Randy

01:04:55.260 Weingarten wants. Teachers do never have to teach again, but get paid. This is what she wants.

01:04:58.700 Because the AFT does not care about students. They don't care about students. I will say,

01:05:02.600 the one thing that has been kind of fun to watch over the last couple of years is the complete

01:05:06.040 unmasking of everybody. Megan, you've been in this business forever. I've been in this business

01:05:10.420 for a very long time at this point, a couple of decades. And most of politics was sort of shielded

01:05:15.300 from us for a very long time, where you felt like, okay, I kind of know what their agenda is,

01:05:19.440 but the agenda is, it can be shaded and it's kind of nuanced. It's not so clear. Now the agenda is

01:05:23.760 just right out there. Randy Weingarten can't cite a single piece of data for why kids should remain

01:05:28.060 masked. And she's like, well, they should remain masked anyway, until transmission is zero,

01:05:32.000 until there's no transmission, which of course will never happen because this thing is

01:05:35.640 endemic. There's only one thing she wants. It's she wants her teachers to get paid a lot of money

01:05:39.720 to do nothing. And then she wants to get paid a lot of money to do nothing. And then she wants

01:05:42.900 to funnel money to her favorite politicians to pay her to do nothing. That is the game.

01:05:47.720 She has been exposed in a unique and fun way. I do have a tip though. Maybe your wife can use this

01:05:53.220 because the mask, your wife shouldn't have to deal with that N95, those marks on her face at the end

01:05:59.140 of a long day. There are other ways. And thankfully, Ben, the good people at Cambridge University have

01:06:03.420 spent their time not let's get to the bottom of whether, you know, we should be masking children

01:06:08.240 or whether there's myocarditis caused by, you know, the vaccines in some young men. No, they've

01:06:13.300 decided to figure out what if we put pantyhose over the masks and then put rubber bands on other masks

01:06:19.160 and how can we make them even more effective? And we're putting a picture on the board for people

01:06:24.820 watching on YouTube. It's absolutely absurd. I think if you put pantyhose over your mask,

01:06:29.040 you're a pervert. That's what we've determined. You might need a little, I don't know, you might

01:06:35.700 be going into therapy soon. But they did find that pantyhose and cloth tape were the most effective

01:06:42.760 at improving how well your KN95 mask fits. Okay, so it's not enough to just put the KN95. Then you

01:06:47.900 put pantyhose over it and you tape it to your face too. And it's just a couple of items. The most

01:06:54.000 effective tactic was to wrap the pantyhose around the bottom half of the face on top of a mask.

01:06:57.700 This, the scientist said, could reduce the number of viral particles by up to seven times more than

01:07:01.720 a loose mask on its own by sealing the gaps around the nose and the mouth. Other methods included

01:07:08.420 tying the ear bands to make the masks fit even more tightly or stuffing the gaps of your mask

01:07:14.540 with bandages. They go on to say at the end, however, the researchers did note that many of the

01:07:23.620 hacks, including the most effective ones, were uncomfortable.

01:07:29.700 Oh, who would have thought? And here I thought that the height of comfort was an N95

01:07:34.420 adumbrated with bandages and a pantyhose. Wow. I'm glad they told us that it was uncomfortable.

01:07:41.360 Otherwise, I would have thought that the study really was kind of full of it. Listen, I've been

01:07:45.120 recommending for a couple of years that if you want to ensure 100% you don't die of COVID,

01:07:48.260 all you really have to do is take a plastic bag, put it over your head, and then take some duct tape

01:07:52.180 and wrap it around your neck. And you will not die of COVID. You won't. I mean, I can't make any

01:07:56.440 other guarantees. But this whole thing, can I just point out what kind of idiotic studies we have

01:08:01.580 funded during this pandemic, as opposed to the ones that actually matter? So here in the United States,

01:08:05.360 there was really only one question that mattered very early on. Okay, really only one. What is the

01:08:09.320 infection fatality rate? Namely, if you get infected, what are your chances of dying? Based on age,

01:08:14.060 based on prior health condition. We still don't have any numbers on that. Because all of the

01:08:18.740 powerful scientific institutions in the United States decided that they would rather do dumb

01:08:23.740 studies about how effective a mask was if you taped it to a mannequin, than how many people had

01:08:28.960 actually gotten the original strain versus how many people had died of the original strain.

01:08:33.220 It was left to private industry to do serotology tests, or serology tests, to look for antibodies in

01:08:39.440 the blood of general populations in like Santa Clarita. Why didn't the government know that? Why didn't the

01:08:43.820 government research that? Why was it left to some rando scientists doing some study in Malaysia to

01:08:48.720 figure out whether there were any comparable studies about whether masks were effective or not? They

01:08:52.780 just kind of said stuff. And then they knew that if they said it over and over again, and if they use

01:08:56.020 big tech to shut everybody down, then they could get away with nearly anything. And I have to say,

01:09:00.600 it is incredible to watch in real time as all of these people come around to the fact that all the

01:09:06.020 stuff that they labeled misinformation is now true. From the Wuhan lab leak to maybe it's true that

01:09:10.960 there were a bunch of people who are in the hospital with COVID, but not of COVID. I mean,

01:09:15.020 right. This is something that the Biden administration is now attempting because they

01:09:17.520 have to, they have to sort of get those statistics down. So now they're like, what if we went to the

01:09:21.060 hospitals and found out how many people have died with COVID as opposed to of COVID? Oh,

01:09:25.780 you mean the question you weren't allowed to ask last year and the year before that,

01:09:29.100 that question? Because now he knows what's going to happen to him at the poll. So now he's got a

01:09:33.440 political interest in actually getting to the bottom of what the real numbers are. But before he was

01:09:37.220 perfectly happy to live in imaginary land because he wanted to criticize Trump because he wanted to

01:09:42.200 prove that death of Santas was killing people and he was the responsible one. And now that he knows he

01:09:47.260 and other Democrats are going to pay, they're going to pay in November of 2022. They actually want to

01:09:51.900 get to the bottom of the numbers. And then when the numbers are better, because once we separate

01:09:56.240 with COVID from from COVID in terms of the deaths, he's going to say this because of me, we're going to

01:10:00.500 get more Hakeem Jeffries out there saying, you know, we crushed the virus, crushed it. Thank you.

01:10:04.920 You're welcome. And that's exactly right. And it's really irritating. Again, I don't think that

01:10:10.540 it's going to work. I think that they're relying on the idea that perhaps the economy is going to go

01:10:14.820 into a natural recovery. Honestly, the best thing that has happened to Joe Biden and his

01:10:19.160 administration is Joe Manchin. It is the best thing that has happened to him because Joe Manchin has

01:10:23.820 stifled a lot of his most idiotic plans. And that's the only thing that's allowed the economy

01:10:27.400 to continue to grow at a rapid pace. If Joe Biden actually got his way, he would be in serious,

01:10:32.440 serious trouble come 2022. Now, listen, I think he's going to pay a price anyway. But I think

01:10:36.100 that basically their hope Politico said this the other day, they're basically hoping that if they

01:10:40.180 just focus in on a growing economy, and we've all gotten back to normal, maybe in six months or seven

01:10:45.720 months, we'll all have forgotten about the last two years of misery that people have been suffering.

01:10:50.020 But I don't think that that is correct. I don't think that that's how people operate that

01:10:54.040 they're just, you know, how I feel today is how I'm going to vote. By the way, because if that were

01:10:58.040 sure I think Trump would have won re-election, frankly, the fact of, you know, my pocketbook,

01:11:02.500 pocketbooks are not the only thing that people are thinking about in the moment when they vote.

01:11:06.060 They're also thinking about the fact that how did my life change over the last few years

01:11:08.920 and whose fault was that? I mean, I think differently about politics. I've been right

01:11:12.700 wing the whole time. But I mean, I have to think differently about the last two years

01:11:16.000 and the materialization of all the bad effects of democratic policy, considering I literally picked

01:11:19.860 up my company and moved it to Nashville and took my family and moved it from California to Florida.

01:11:23.420 That was so brilliant of you. I love your podcast. Of course, I listen to it all the time. And Ben

01:11:28.760 has been like he's been especially funny and good on the subject of Whoopi Goldberg, the subject of

01:11:35.760 Joe Rogan. The thing on Whoopi was the greatest thing ever. The headline of the Daily Wire of your

01:11:39.880 episode was Whoopi Goldberg says everyone is racist except for Hitler. So I got to ask you about her

01:11:46.200 and Joe Rogan. And I really want to talk to you about the mourn fest going on over there at CNN right

01:11:50.840 now. These anchors every day weighing in on this is traumatic. Alison Camerata like literally

01:11:55.520 suggesting that her mental health has been affected and that the company needs to help her.

01:12:03.720 Ben, let's talk about the mourning over at CNN. M-O-U-R-N mourning. They are in denial that

01:12:11.020 Jeff Zucker has been kicked out. He was about to get fired. So he resigned in the wake of it being

01:12:15.480 exposed that he had a consensual affair with an underling with a with an employee. And they claim

01:12:21.360 that it only started during covid. I've said reportedly I've said on the air before that's

01:12:26.460 not true that that I that I've heard from many people well before covid that these two have been

01:12:31.600 having an affair. We had a reporter from Rolling Stone come on our air and say her sources are

01:12:35.620 telling her it started in 1996. Been going on for years while they were married, while she was a very

01:12:39.940 junior employee to him at the Today Show. He kept promoting her up the line, continued to do that

01:12:44.160 while at CNN over the heads of other women in the PR department who were not sleeping with him,

01:12:48.760 we presume. And so it's a major ethical breach and it's a major problem for journalism.

01:12:54.060 And I think they were absolutely right to fire the guy. So the CNN employees and it's conveniently,

01:12:59.060 I think, all the employees who owe their jobs and their careers to him, who realize there is not

01:13:03.180 another company that will hire them if the new management coming in doesn't like them are.

01:13:08.140 I mean, they're crying in their soup and very openly. And we are hearing ridiculous things like this.

01:13:12.280 Alison Camerata in a leaked, a leaked tape of their meetings that they're having

01:13:17.220 with the chief there, Jason Keillor, who's the guy who forced out Zucker.

01:13:21.680 I think that what you're hearing, what we're all experiencing is just a huge shockwave to all of

01:13:28.820 our mental health. This has been incredibly destabilizing and unsettling. One of the secrets

01:13:34.360 to mental health is understanding. And the way that happens is getting some answers and some closure.

01:13:39.720 And we don't have that. We don't understand why the death penalty was necessary.

01:13:44.580 And then you've got another employee there offering this up, Ben, telling Jason Keillor,

01:13:49.200 a member of the January 6th committee came forward and told me that the committee is

01:13:54.000 devastated for our democracy as a result of Jeff Zucker's departure.

01:13:59.160 Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, so first of all, apparently he was having an affair with this woman

01:14:07.160 since I was 12. So that's a super long time because I'm 38 now. And so when he says that he was doing

01:14:13.500 this for like the last year, that's that's a pretty weak cover. He elevated her at every job she ever

01:14:18.500 held. She followed him around to every job he ever held. And then they were apparently coordinating

01:14:23.420 with Andrew Cuomo, which is, of course, the cap around this whole thing. They're coordinating with

01:14:26.640 Andrew Cuomo for whom she had once worked as a comms director at the beginning of the pandemic

01:14:31.180 to help kind of fend off Trump and and help him message. Meanwhile, they were having Chris Cuomo

01:14:35.760 do spots on air with his brother, the whole Smothers Brothers routine that we all grimaced over during

01:14:41.280 the during the early months of the pandemic. So did he deserve to lose his job? Of course he

01:14:45.780 deserved to lose his job. But I mean, this is the reality. Most people at CNN on the basis of ratings

01:14:49.940 deserve to lose their jobs in that the ratings at CNN are lower than than dirt. I mean,

01:14:54.380 that more people watch their wallpaper than watch CNN. And it is not close. CNN's ratings are just

01:15:00.660 garbage. And this part Trump's right about. And the fact they've lost 90% of their audience year

01:15:05.460 to year, 90. It's crazy. I mean, Jeff Zucker has been a failure at every job he's ever held since

01:15:12.080 the Today Show. He did well on the Today Show. And then he was a giant failure when he was head of

01:15:15.920 NBC. He destroyed their comedy routines. He he then proceeded to move on to CNN, where he completely

01:15:21.440 destroyed their lineup. He turned them from the most trusted name in news to Don Lemon and Chris

01:15:26.780 Cuomo and a much less newsy Anderson Cooper. And this was their evening lineup. And yet all these

01:15:33.100 people are weeping over him. Now, I just would want to know, what is their actual standard at CNN?

01:15:38.600 So, I mean, it is good to know that you don't get fired if you are if you are having Woody Allen style

01:15:44.340 sex with yourself on camera like Jeff Toobin. Like that's OK.

01:15:48.100 No problem. So you can still have a job there. So the good news is Toobin could theoretically be

01:15:51.440 the new head of CNN. And apparently it takes you actually being exposed as an advisor to your

01:15:58.780 brother to get fired if you're Chris Cuomo. But then they will mourn you, even if you were

01:16:02.920 nailing the help for like 30 years and elevating her to every position while coordinating with

01:16:08.120 somebody you are covering. And by the way, getting Chris like Jeff Zucker let Chris Cuomo go

01:16:13.740 over the revelations that he was working with Andrew. Like, how did you think that was going

01:16:17.920 to go, Jeff Zucker? Seriously, how do you think that was going to go? I assume that Chris has

01:16:21.100 had conversations with Andrew. I mean, considering they have the whole time. So wouldn't it ever have

01:16:25.720 occurred to Jeff Zucker? Wait, if I fire Chris Cuomo, isn't Chris just going to talk to Andrew,

01:16:30.080 who's going to refer Chris back to Alison Gollaston me? Yeah, exactly right.

01:16:35.380 They're all morons. They're all morons and they deserve everything they get.

01:16:37.260 Yeah. And the worst is Brian Stelter out there saying like he's attacking Joe Rogan,

01:16:42.740 saying, you know, like what we do, what people listen to him for information. And it's really

01:16:47.140 disinformation. CNN, we are real journalists and we have legitimate stories. Look at our website.

01:16:55.040 We have 80 stories just posted today. And to compare us, like people should be coming to us

01:17:00.200 for the real information, not Joe Rogan. He's completely lost the thread. He doesn't understand.

01:17:05.620 We've all moved on without them. We no longer trust them.

01:17:08.540 That mentality is everything, though. It's that mentality, though, Megan. You know,

01:17:10.880 that mentality that says, why aren't they listening to us? Right. It can't be. It's the

01:17:15.000 Principal Skinner thing from The Simpsons. Right. It's not me that's wrong. It must be the

01:17:18.540 children. If the idea is that everybody should be watching Brian Stelter, which, again, how Brian

01:17:24.260 Stelter ever made it on air kind of in a consistent fashion is beyond me.

01:17:27.640 But he should be worried for his job. He should.

01:17:29.500 It's so, so odd. But if you feel that way, then what you really mean is that people should be

01:17:34.600 restricted from viewing other sources, which is what Brian Stelter wants. And Brian Stelter

01:17:38.340 wants Rogan off the air not because he thinks Rogan is such a terrible source of information,

01:17:42.040 but because people should be watching Brian Stelter. And he wants big tech to crack down

01:17:45.340 on you or crack down on me, crack down on anybody that he doesn't like, because why would people

01:17:49.460 watch our shows? I mean, he's so much more reliable. I mean, he is. I mean, his show is

01:17:52.640 called Reliable Sources. It is the most reliable of all the sources, even according to the name

01:17:56.720 of his own show that he is reliably titled Reliable Sources. So why exactly would we not rely

01:18:01.540 on him for such sources? To pretend that CNN is anything close to what it used to be is, again,

01:18:09.420 yogurt. It's a lie. It's not true. CNN has gone totally opinion. Even during the day,

01:18:15.220 you watch those hosts like all the blonde ladies. They've pulled a fox. All the women are blonde

01:18:19.460 now. And they're there. They sound just as opinionated as Chris Cuomo did. Right. And now

01:18:24.600 you've got the ones who really are worried about their jobs because they can't get a job in another

01:18:27.400 place, like shouting out their reasons. You know, like Brian Stelter, we're journalists and we've

01:18:31.280 towed the line during Trump. Don Lemon literally on the air. I'm a black gay man. I'm a black gay

01:18:36.060 man. Just in case new employers, just in case you forgot, I'm black and I'm gay. You cannot fire me.

01:18:39.960 I mean, it's really kind of fun to watch them try to tread water, like keep my head above water. No,

01:18:44.420 no, don't fire me. Yeah, well, I'm really hoping that, look, if Jason Kilar has any brains at all,

01:18:49.440 he'll clean house. I mean, because what exactly would he lose? What exactly would he lose? I mean,

01:18:53.860 like the three people who are watching right now might go down to two temporarily before it goes

01:18:57.520 up to four. There's literally only one direction for them to go, and that's up if they get rid of

01:19:02.720 a lot of the talent, so-called talent that they have over there. So that's what they're all. I mean,

01:19:06.900 you're right. It's all self-interest. And that's really what it comes down to. Journalists were

01:19:11.240 supposed to be about your interest. They're supposed to be about covering the stories you care about in

01:19:15.600 a way that is accessible to you. And instead, it has become all self-interest. It is all about what

01:19:19.840 they care about and what is accessible to them. And that's why nobody trusts them. It's

01:19:23.740 why, by the way, Rogan is successful because Rogan's entire shtick, and I know Joe pretty

01:19:27.300 well. I'm friends with Joe, full disclosure. And, you know, what Joe's thing is, is that Joe

01:19:32.780 is the everyman. Joe approaches every conversation from the perspective, I don't understand completely

01:19:37.320 the person I'm talking to. Let me spend three hours asking the common man everyday question

01:19:42.340 as to what they're talking about, what they think. And that's why he's popular, because he's a great

01:19:45.920 stand-in for the audience. By the way, like on TV, when you watch a TV show, there's always the one

01:19:49.140 character who's sort of the stand-in for the audience, the person who says what the audience is

01:19:52.600 thinking. That's Joe in every one of these interviews. This is why he's really good at his

01:19:56.400 job, as opposed to what they do on CNN, which is they come in with an agenda. They want particular

01:20:00.380 answers. They're going to badger you until they get those answers, or they're going to badger you

01:20:04.560 because they don't get those answers. That's not what Joe does. That's why Joe is successful. It's

01:20:07.700 why they're failures. And so far, Spotify is standing by him, but there's a little mealy-mouthed

01:20:13.080 what the head of Spotify is saying. I can't see that Joe is going to be a long-term player

01:20:20.380 at Spotify. I don't have faith that the leadership there is going to be able to withstand another

01:20:25.500 barrage of this. Frankly, I'm surprised. It's Wednesday. That N-word reel came out, what,

01:20:30.360 on Saturday, Friday afternoon? And I would be shocked if we get through another week without

01:20:35.900 all of these, you know, dark money, Democrat super PACs, not putting out some sort of reel

01:20:41.460 with him saying the F-word for gay people. Yeah, or it's going to be some misogyny.

01:20:46.380 They'll find another. Yeah, exactly. Like, I would be shocked if they don't follow up on this because

01:20:49.740 they know they're gaining ground. And really, all it takes for them to depose Rogan over there

01:20:53.680 is for them to capture one major music artist, right? All the people who they've been doing now,

01:20:58.460 it's like Neil Young, a bunch of people who retired before I was born. And so that doesn't matter.

01:21:02.880 But if they got one Taylor Swift to do it, it would really put Spotify between a rock and a

01:21:06.500 hard place. And I think they know that. So I don't think they're going to let up.

01:21:09.800 Charlie Cook of National Review was making a good point today or yesterday. And he was saying,

01:21:14.060 look, as for the employees at Spotify who are objecting to Joe Rogan, you know,

01:21:18.060 because the head of Spotify was like, we understand you want your voices to be heard.

01:21:22.040 He was saying, why? We don't. No, we don't. We don't care. Why do I care what the employees

01:21:25.980 of Spotify have to say? And he was saying, if you choose to work at a place that's essentially a

01:21:30.380 library, right? It's essentially a music library. They've got all sorts of documentation that they

01:21:36.140 want to put online, read aloud and so on. They've got tons of podcasters now.

01:21:41.300 How do you how do you think it's going to go? You can't say I object to all these various

01:21:45.900 viewpoints, but I'm going to work at a library that has books that deals in information that

01:21:49.540 deals in viewpoints, right? Like he was saying, you can't have a carpenter who won't work with wood,

01:21:54.560 right? Like this is literally the nature of your business.

01:21:56.940 But you know what? Honestly, I don't even blame the woke interns. I blame the CEO.

01:22:00.980 The CEO's he's a coward. He's a coward. I mean, I run a company. If my employees came to me and

01:22:05.200 they were like, you know what? We don't like what Matt Walsh, who's one of the hosts over here,

01:22:09.240 what Matt Walsh had to say on his show today. And so we want you to de-platform him. I would say

01:22:13.700 I'm glad that you have thoughts. Go back to work. And if you don't go back to work, then you can

01:22:19.020 find yourself on the unemployment line. Like what do I care what you have to say? You literally work

01:22:23.380 here. What are you even talking about? Since when did the woke employees become the bosses of these

01:22:28.280 billion-dollar companies? It's insane. Why is Daniel Ek catering to all of the stupid 21-year-old

01:22:34.900 interns who think that Spotify is supposed to be a safe space from Wesleyan? I don't understand

01:22:41.600 why all these CEOs are such cowards. They're unbelievable cowards. This would have ended

01:22:44.960 day one. If they had come to Daniel Ek and they'd said, listen, we are so offended by Joe Rogan and

01:22:49.720 this misinformation stuff. And he had said, you know what? Tough. Deal with it. Like deal with

01:22:53.620 it. You don't like what he's saying. We got other shows on here. You can listen to those shows.

01:22:57.040 That would be the end of it. That's the amazing thing about all of this. All it would take is just

01:23:00.640 one iota of courage by these folks. But they are so eager not to be eaten by the mob that they think

01:23:05.720 if they placate the mob by throwing them bones, that eventually they'll be left alone. That's not the

01:23:10.400 way this works. Either you're assimilated by the Borg or you're destroyed. Let me ask you a tougher

01:23:14.160 question, okay? Because this is what happens. It's not like they, some of them amorphously say like,

01:23:18.360 Joe Rogan, disinformation, bad, help me. But you've got like, let's say in the wake of the

01:23:23.820 tape with the N-word and the Planet of the Apes thing, you've got black employees who come to you

01:23:28.800 and say, we're deeply, deeply offended, which is very plausible, right? I mean, like it wasn't great,

01:23:34.600 you know, stuff. And we want him gone, but we don't understand how the company can continue

01:23:40.200 supporting him. So then you're in a trickier situation, right? Because you've got people who

01:23:44.300 are in the targeted group, which quote unquote targeted, who are coming to you. Yes, nine times

01:23:49.320 out of 10, it's not sincere, right? They're part of the woke brigade and they just want Joe Rogan

01:23:52.360 canceled for other reasons. But not everybody's that way. So then what do you say to that employee?

01:23:58.400 I mean, I think you first have to determine whether the employee is sincere or not,

01:24:01.260 which is always the tough part. But the answer is still no. I mean, first of all,

01:24:05.420 let's just put it this way. Joe Rogan's been doing this stuff for 20 years. Okay? You're not offended

01:24:09.080 by anything he said 20 years ago. No one's ever offended by anything anyone said 20 years ago,

01:24:12.900 ever, ever in history of man. No one has ever been offended by something someone said 20 years ago.

01:24:17.500 You're offended by something that happened today or yesterday. You're not offended by something

01:24:21.320 someone said 20 years ago because I don't have a time machine and neither does anybody else.

01:24:24.420 So if a bunch of people came to me and they're like, you know what? This guy said something truly

01:24:26.960 awful 30 years ago. And I'm really like, I'm just broken up about it today. My answer would be,

01:24:31.560 okay, but it happened 30 years ago. And especially because Rogan, I believe,

01:24:35.100 had said several years ago that he, why he stopped using the N word, he made like a big deal out of it.

01:24:39.080 And by the way, he issued an apology to, like when I talked to Joe about this,

01:24:43.620 one of the things that Joe said is the reason I issued the apology is not because I felt like

01:24:47.300 I was getting blackmailed. I did it because I actually don't like the things that I said,

01:24:50.480 which by the way is appropriate. But if you don't like the things that you said and you do it as

01:24:53.840 a sincere apology, like, you know, I said some stupid, dumb stuff in the past, I think good on you.

01:24:58.700 Like that's a good thing for our society. What I have a problem with is the second step. So if those

01:25:02.380 employees came and they said, listen, can we have a conversation with Joe and just talk about it?

01:25:05.700 And Joe was like, yeah, let's do it. That sounds great. And then they have a conversation

01:25:08.920 and Joe says, yeah, those dumb stuff. I never should have said that. I didn't mean it this way.

01:25:12.200 It was taken this way. And then everybody goes home and they're like, OK, well, I understand him

01:25:15.660 better. Then what's the problem? That's just called living a normal day in America. But if the idea is

01:25:21.000 you have to get rid of him because I'm so deeply offended by something that just got unearthed by,

01:25:25.680 you know, media matters or something that happened 20 years ago. Yeah. Screw you. I'm not interested in

01:25:31.000 hearing your perspective at that point, because I don't think I think the mark of sincerity is that you

01:25:34.700 actually wish to change the person's mind. The mark of insincerity is that you wish for them to

01:25:38.840 lose their job without any recourse at all. Yeah. Well, I mean, and of course, it's very

01:25:44.260 different from what's happening with Whoopi, where, you know, some of the sort of internal

01:25:48.740 woke brigade at ABC are like, fire her, fire her. And I think what the company decided to do was

01:25:53.300 fig leaf it and say, yes, she'll be punished. Yes, we stand with the Jewish people. And you've been

01:25:57.680 making the point that Whoopi meantime, meanwhile, contrary to what she says on the air, it has not

01:26:02.320 been she has not always had the Jewish people's back. That's how she's trying to defend herself.

01:26:06.260 And that, of course, you know, you and I talked about this. But if Whoopi were a white man who

01:26:12.420 said something offensive about a different group, a group other than Jews, she she would have been

01:26:17.060 gone. But she's got certain sort of placeholders that will keep her there. And the suspension is

01:26:21.220 a fig leaf. It doesn't really mean anything. We all know it. And she'll go on on her merry way,

01:26:25.180 mostly because of her ideology. Right now. So here's my rule. My rule is that normally

01:26:30.220 Whoopi Goldberg should not lose her job for something like this. However, if you spend your life

01:26:33.800 trying to get people canceled and then you run afoul of of the cancel culture, I'm happy to see

01:26:39.440 you go down at that point because you have created this monster and you get to you get to get in bed

01:26:43.600 with that monster. Like that's the way that that works. If you want to change your standards and

01:26:46.900 now you want to say, listen, people deserve a little bit of grace. That can't just hold when

01:26:50.700 it's you. It has to apply to everybody. And if you're not going to apply it to everybody,

01:26:53.940 then I don't think it should be applied to you. I think you should lose your job at that point.

01:26:57.740 So it is obviously true that if Whoopi Goldberg were a member of the right and she'd said anything

01:27:03.600 like this, her career would be over. But she's a member of the left and that means that she's

01:27:07.080 still useful to them. So they'll they'll honestly, I think taking her off the air for a couple of

01:27:11.060 weeks was a favor to her. They're figuring the news cycle will move on. Two weeks from now,

01:27:13.940 she'll just go back on the air. Nobody will have noticed. She didn't have to do any sort of

01:27:17.420 apology to her. She did one apology on the air. The other quasi apology she tried to make on

01:27:21.700 Colbert, she doubled down on the actual message. She doesn't have to at any point explain what

01:27:25.060 you meant by it. Normally, when you apologize for a thing, you actually have to explain

01:27:28.300 what you meant by it or how your mind has changed. Now, she's not going to have to do any of that

01:27:32.700 stuff. So they took her off the air. They actually saved her. She's whining about it. But what they

01:27:36.940 did for her was actually kind of a favor. They got her off the hook. Nobody's expecting her to be

01:27:41.380 fired now. And no one expects her to talk about this at length when she comes back.

01:27:45.160 Well, you know who is sorry? Finally, we've we've actually heard an apology on day what

01:27:48.580 four of the scandals, Stacey Abrams, without the mask, the worst picture ever. I mean,

01:27:53.480 it's going to it's going to haunt her for the rest of her political career. Sitting in front of

01:27:57.040 little kids like the least at risk from covid, all of whom are masked, smiling brightly. And at

01:28:03.140 first she tried to say first she said, this is a Republican made up attack on me. I try to blame

01:28:07.980 the evil GOP. Then she tried to say I only took my mask off for one second for the photo and I made

01:28:12.200 sure they had their mask on. We're like, hello, that's the problem. Then now it comes out. I think

01:28:16.580 it was Outkick reporting that it wasn't true. She had the mask off the entire time. All right. So

01:28:20.860 she lied about it. She did it. And that poster is just so emblematic, that picture of what the

01:28:25.780 Democrats have been doing time after time after time and rules for the but not for me.

01:28:31.120 I think my favorite aspect of this is when the story immediately broke. And her first move from

01:28:34.960 her comms team was, of course, to blame racism. That was that's always the first move. And then

01:28:42.020 that falls apart. And then she has to fire. And then the next day there's a listing for her for

01:28:47.820 her online team because they posted the photo. That's the best part of this.

01:28:50.860 She posted the photo, right? No one else posted the photo. She posted the photo, which is

01:28:54.360 hysterically funny. And then she goes out and she apologizes for not holding by the rules. Now,

01:28:58.660 the reality is the rule is stupid, right? What she said is I was unmasked because I'm vaxxed and

01:29:03.800 because I'm clean. And these kids also should be unmasked because they don't need the masks in the

01:29:08.000 first place. By the way, she would have been ahead of the other governors by like a day if that had

01:29:11.340 happened. But instead it was, no, you're right. I should have. I should have worn the mask forever.

01:29:14.980 And I'm really sorry this happened. Well, I just I have doubts. This is the first time this sort of

01:29:19.220 thing has happened off camera with Stacey Abrams, because how many Democrats have to do this before

01:29:22.940 you realize they just don't think the rules apply to them? And the excuses get ever and ever more

01:29:27.060 silly. So we had Eric Garcetti, who took a photo unmasked next to Magic Johnson, unmasked. Magic

01:29:32.340 Johnson is a 62 year old overweight black man with HIV. And Eric Garcetti is standing next to him

01:29:38.020 unmasked. And he said, well, it's OK. I was holding my breath, which is really sciencey.

01:29:43.580 Sounds like the science to me. And then you had Gavin Newsom. Apparently, everyone in that in that

01:29:47.760 Ram Stadium had to take a picture unmasked with Magic Johnson. It was by California law. So Gavin

01:29:52.380 Newsom did it then. And then he's like, yeah, but I had the mask on my hand, which makes sense because

01:29:55.860 you breathe from your hand, right? That's that's where all the particles come from. So that one was

01:29:58.740 good. We had London Breed, the San Francisco mayor, who is out partying without a mask. And that was

01:30:02.780 because the spirit moved her. She took off the mask, which is, again, very sciencey. Lots of data and science

01:30:07.160 going to the spirit moving her. You have Lori Lightfoot, who had to get a haircut. And then you had Nancy Pelosi,

01:30:11.100 who also had to have a haircut. You had Kathy Hochul, who did a couple of months. Like none of

01:30:14.860 them abide by the rules, which says one of two things. Either they believe that they are so

01:30:18.720 special that COVID will never hit them and therefore the rules don't apply to them, or they know the

01:30:22.340 rules are bullcrap. And this is all just a method of control and more importantly, of maintaining the

01:30:27.040 illusion that they actually have the ability to control this thing. I think that so much of what

01:30:30.900 this comes down to for the Democrats is that Joe Biden made a promise in 2020 that Democrats

01:30:36.000 make about everything, and it is never fulfilled. And that promise is, I can give you anything you

01:30:40.800 want so long as you give me all power. Joe Biden said, I will crush the virus. He never had the

01:30:44.860 power to crush the virus. If he had never made that promise, he wouldn't be in trouble today.

01:30:48.380 He would have just said, I did the best I could. Didn't work. We moved on. Right? That's what

01:30:51.580 everybody else did. But once you make that promise, you are now ensconced in this. And so you know that

01:30:56.420 it's not going to work, but maybe it'll work for all those dumb people, right? If we can just help a few

01:31:00.320 dumb people not to die, then all of it will have been worthwhile. And they're dumber than I am. After all,

01:31:04.540 I'm a prominent Democratic politician, which means I'm very smart.

01:31:08.500 Not unlike the deplorables. Ben, always such a pleasure. I love talking to you. And we want

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01:32:04.300 Before we go, my team has told me that they put together a mashup of Justin Trudeau in

01:32:11.120 I don't know how he would describe it, but they I haven't seen it. And you and I are going

01:32:14.500 to see it and hear it for the first time together. Here it is.

01:32:16.820 I will never apologize for standing up for an LGBTQ2. And what do you and your family do to cut

01:32:30.100 back on plastics? We, we have recently switched to drinking water bottles out of water out of when

01:32:39.960 we have water bottles out of a plastic, sorry, away from plastic towards paper, like drink box water

01:32:49.300 bottles sort of things. I actually never take selfies. Everyone else takes selfies. I don't take selfies.

01:32:55.120 Maternal love is the love that's going to change the future of mankind. So we'd like you to look at that.

01:33:02.120 We like to say people kind, not necessarily mankind. If people want to wear a mask, that is okay. It prevents you from breathing or speaking moistly on them.

01:33:14.300 Oh, what a terrible image. I appreciate calling it makeup, but it was blackface.

01:33:18.720 Have you since been made aware or remembered of other instances? And if so, how many?

01:33:22.860 I am wary of, of, of, uh, being definitive about this.

01:33:29.780 It is exactly the example of the kinds of things you need to do to counter the she, the she session and turn it into a she covering.

01:33:39.460 I will never apologize.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - February 09, 2022

Biden's COVID Gaslighting, Anti-Science Masking, and Trucker Crackdown, with Ben Shapiro, Ezra Levant and Rob Astorino ｜ Ep. 258

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