The Megyn Kelly Show - Biden's Incoherence and Corruption, and Leaning on Faith, with Victor Davis Hanson and Alexa and Carlos PenaVega ｜ Ep. 617

00:00:00.520 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:12.180 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live from Sirius XMHQ in New York City today.

00:00:19.780 A little later in the show, I'm going to be joined by a couple we first had on and absolutely loved last year.

00:00:25.800 In the world of Hollywood, these guys are a breath of fresh air.

00:00:29.380 But we begin with politics. President Biden is back from his month-long vacation.

00:00:38.420 It's okay, he's only president. I'm sure you all take a month-long vacation too.

00:00:42.360 And it's going exactly as you would expect, as he and his top spokesperson fumble their way through various media events,

00:00:49.580 getting key facts wrong and flat-out refusing to answer simple questions about Hunter Biden.

00:00:55.780 Plus, crime and environmentalist chaos on the West Coast, as we see increasing examples of people having had enough of the environmentalist nonsense on the streets,

00:01:09.680 blockades of the traffic.

00:01:11.160 We've got a couple of great examples which we'll show you as people say we've had enough of this ridiculousness.

00:01:17.340 Joining me now to discuss it all, VDH Victor Davis Hanson is a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of The Dying Citizen.

00:01:27.420 Victor, welcome back to the show.

00:01:29.540 Thanks for having me, Megan.

00:01:30.680 Great to see you.

00:01:31.360 All right, so let's just start with President Biden, who, I mean, truly, he's been on vacation for a month between his time at Rehoboth Beach in Delaware

00:01:39.280 to the trip out west to Lake Tahoe, one little stint to Maui under pressure to actually show some sort of heart for those whose lives were destroyed by this fire.

00:01:49.440 It's been vacation after vacation.

00:01:51.460 So now he comes back and he is asked about the Jacksonville, Florida shooting.

00:01:57.840 All right, this is Satwan, and you tell me whether you can understand even just maybe 10 words together of what he says here,

00:02:07.820 what just happened just as a romantic reminder for our audience.

00:02:10.960 Three people were shot and killed in Jacksonville.

00:02:13.540 They were black. 0.96

00:02:14.720 The shooter was white. 0.99

00:02:16.020 He then killed himself. 0.81

00:02:17.080 It was obviously a disturbed young man.

00:02:18.720 I think he was 22 years old.

00:02:20.300 In any event, he was asked about it.

00:02:21.980 Here's what he said.

00:02:23.980 And so we have to act against this hate-fueled violence.

00:02:26.820 And you saw what's happening there.

00:02:28.300 By the way, almost five years to the day that five young blacks were killed in Jacksonville,

00:02:36.960 five years earlier, at a gun shop, a store that are doing kids' toys.

00:02:45.780 And, you know, we have to speak out that there's a whole group of extreme people trying to erase history,

00:02:56.360 trying to walk away from it.

00:02:58.440 I mean, the idea that we're sitting here, I never thought that I'd be president, let alone be president,

00:03:03.980 and having a discussion on why books are being banned in American schools.

00:03:08.980 And, you know, as administration, we're going to continue to march forward the job and the freedom that we've worked so hard for.

00:03:19.560 What?

00:03:20.740 What?

00:03:21.680 I mean, as Archie Bunker used to say,

00:03:23.980 ha, ha, victory.

00:03:25.780 So we actually tried to translate it, and my team thinks he's referring with that muddled statement to something that did happen back in August of 2018.

00:03:38.060 There was a shooting at the Jacksonville Landing.

00:03:41.400 A gunman opened fire at a video game tournament at the Chicago Pizza Restaurant targeting rival gamers.

00:03:47.060 Not at a gun shop, not at a store, nothing to do with kids' toys.

00:03:51.360 Two were killed, not five, which is what he seems to be suggesting there.

00:03:54.920 Eleven were hurt.

00:03:56.240 One victim was black, one was white.

00:03:58.740 Not five young blacks, as he says there.

00:04:00.680 We could keep going.

00:04:02.060 So what I did manage to discern was 100% counterfactual, to be charitable in my own terminology.

00:04:08.920 And the rest of it, I couldn't make heads or tails of.

00:04:11.940 Yeah.

00:04:12.340 Well, you know what, he's failing at a geometric, not arithmetic rate.

00:04:17.500 And I think what I mean by that is each week, it's not just seven days worse, it's 21 days worse.

00:04:24.700 And there's three things going on with him.

00:04:27.120 One is, I don't know if it's congestive heart.

00:04:30.200 I'm not a doctor, obviously, and you shouldn't even be speculating.

00:04:32.700 But he slurs his words, so his delivery is incomprehensible.

00:04:36.860 And that's separate from the cognitive problems where he rambles or he can't read off a teleprompter or he goes into a wild thing.

00:04:45.540 But the third is even more disturbing, and that is he has lost all of the veneer or the breaks that most people have that when they have an impulse to speak, then they don't speak because they have some social awareness. 0.97

00:04:58.520 So whether it was, you ain't black, or you're a junkie, or a stupid question, or the out and out lies, you know, when he tells people who've lost children or sons in Afghanistan that his son died in Iraq. 0.95

00:05:12.840 But just in that context, he said also, as I remember, because I watched the clip, that he talked Strom Thurmond into voting for the Civil Rights Act. 0.99

00:05:24.400 Well, that has to refer to 1964, or maybe the Fair Housing Act of 65.

00:05:31.240 And Strom Thurmond voted against it.

00:05:33.980 And Joe Biden was, I think, 21 or 22.

00:05:36.740 So he just makes things out of whole cloth, and he assumes, or his wife does, or his handlers do, that the media is so invested in the alternative to Trump or whoever the Republicans have, that they will make up the necessary adjustments.

00:05:55.700 But he can't tell the truth.

00:05:57.500 He never could, but now he cannot tell a scantilla of the truth.

00:06:00.920 He can't deliver a speech, and he's cognitively challenged, so he rambles his grammar, syntax.

00:06:08.360 Right.

00:06:08.840 The result of it is a complete mess.

00:06:11.460 It's very bizarre to listen, to try, you know, you're reminded this is the leader of the free world.

00:06:16.920 This is the United States president who cannot speak, nor can he walk.

00:06:23.120 He's constantly in a shuffle.

00:06:25.140 We've seen him fall down.

00:06:26.620 I mean, I don't want the Republicans to get overconfident, because I think, to some extent, they're banking on people seeing this and just saying he can't do it.

00:06:36.480 He's not going to win.

00:06:37.600 But he can't do it.

00:06:39.900 He's not doing it right now.

00:06:41.800 This is why Nikki Haley, and I'm going to get to why I'm raising this, she just tweeted out, the truth is, a vote for Joe Biden is a vote for President Kamala Harris.

00:06:51.420 That's what she tweeted out, and I think we all understand what she's saying, like the odds of Joe Biden actually making it if he gets reelected through a second term are extremely slim.

00:07:02.280 So she tweets that out, and then you promptly get people like Jamel Hill, this very racist commentator, tweeting out, part of the reason racism is such a terrible sickness in this country is because politicians like this know they can rally a certain base with the fear of, oh, my God, a black woman might be president if you don't vote for me.

00:07:27.000 Then we want to act all surprised when the most hateful part of the base decides they need to act out on their feelings of hatred.

00:07:37.640 You see, so Nikki Haley is herself a racist because she's saying, if you vote for Joe Biden, reminder, Kamala Harris is going to be the president. 1.00

00:07:48.080 Yeah. Well, the funny thing is that Kamala Harris would not be in the position she was in because she ran for president in 2016, and she was a dismal failure. 0.97

00:08:04.440 She failed to get one delegate. She had a lot of Silicon Valley money. 1.00

00:08:07.660 And so she was appointed because he had announced pro forma that he was going to select a woman, and then the Black Caucus said that has to be a black woman, and he nodded.

00:08:18.220 So that's why she's there. And she had a perfect opportunity. She had a favorable press.

00:08:23.320 She had a president that wasn't really cognitively engaged. She could have freelanced and done wonderful things. 0.98

00:08:29.720 She's been an utter failure. And it's not you or I saying that, Megan. It's the Democratic insiders.

00:08:34.900 And their biggest fear right now is they don't want Joe Biden to not finish this term because that means she is going to be president, and they think she'll destroy the party.

00:08:46.560 I think she probably will. So they're going to do whatever it takes to get him across, sort of like Woodrow Wilson and Edith Wilson in 1919 when he was non-composmentes and she finished out his term.

00:08:57.740 But what they're looking at in the next four years, I don't think he's going to be able to run.

00:09:03.760 And I think that they're going to be pressure on him because he's going to get so embarrassing in the next 18 months that sometime in March or February, they'll do like LBJ did in 68, just he's not going to run.

00:09:16.140 But that also solves the Kamala Harris problem because then they just say, well, have an open primary and they know that she won't get another delegate, just like in the past.

00:09:25.520 We've been here before, too. And, you know, in 1944, it was pretty clear that FDR around June or July, even maybe March, he had blood pressure about 220 over 180.

00:09:38.900 He may have had melanoma. He had chronic bladder and sinus. In fact, he was just unfortunately a wreck and he was not going to live much longer.

00:09:49.960 Probably, they thought, not even a year. But they wanted that fourth term and they needed that Democratic White House.

00:09:56.240 So they ran him. But his vice president was kind of like Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:10:00.480 It was Henry Wallace, who was a nice guy, but an avowed socialist.

00:10:03.780 So they got together and they said, we've got to get him off the ticket and we've got to get somebody who's conservative and won't rival FDR.

00:10:13.100 And FDR will think he's not very important or well-known, so he won't overshadow him.

00:10:18.940 So they picked Harry Truman. And of course, on April 1st, just a few months after the inauguration, he died.

00:10:25.440 And we had Truman instead of Henry Wallace.

00:10:27.760 He died.

00:10:57.740 It's very tragic.

00:10:59.120 And so that's their problem.

00:11:01.960 And that's why they don't, they just talk about Trump 24-7, because not only can they not talk about the Biden record at the border or crime or energy or foreign policy, and especially the economy.

00:11:14.660 And they can't talk about what they would call the walls are closing in on Joe Biden with the IRS whistleblowers or Victor Shokin or the oligarchs that have evidence or the laptop evidence or Jim Jordan subpoenaing tax document.

00:11:30.380 They don't want to talk about that, but they also can't talk about his cognitive or physical health, which means if you can't talk about those three things that everybody's worried about, then you can't talk at all about anything relating to Biden.

00:11:42.280 So it's 24-7, 360 degrees, Donald Trump.

00:11:46.060 There was just a piece this morning in Axios referencing back to a survey of what words come to mind when you think of Joe Biden or Donald Trump.

00:11:56.700 This is a survey of 1,100 adults in America just this month.

00:12:03.040 And the number one cluster of words for Joe Biden by 26 percent was old, outdated, aging and elderly.

00:12:13.040 The next most popular at 15 percent was slow, confused, bumbling, old, outdated, aging, elderly, slow, confused, bumbling on Trump. 0.97

00:12:25.780 The number one cluster of words was corrupt, criminal and crooked. 0.98

00:12:29.720 Now we all know why they're saying that.

00:12:32.040 But the Democrats have a problem.

00:12:34.340 Even the people who think Trump is, quote, criminal or crooked or corrupt.

00:12:39.320 That's only 15 percent of all Americans.

00:12:42.040 You got 26 percent on the Joe Biden, old, outdated, aging, elderly.

00:12:47.140 This is a real problem.

00:12:48.440 Even Morning Joe was lamenting this reality this morning.

00:12:52.260 And so this is very interesting.

00:12:54.300 You're suggesting they may have to keep him on until the spring and that that's when they'll say he's not running because something interesting happened in the past few days.

00:13:03.100 Bernie Sanders went to New Hampshire to give a speech.

00:13:05.520 Now, why was Bernie Sanders going to New Hampshire to give a speech?

00:13:10.480 Bernie Sanders, unlike Kamala Harris, actually did win a couple of the primaries last time around until the party decided he he had to be stopped and made sure he didn't get any further.

00:13:20.700 But it does seem like the Democratic Party is starting to realize they have a serious problem of their own.

00:13:28.800 Yeah, I think they feel that they have a serious problem and they have the solution, too.

00:13:33.920 And Bernie's heard that and they think it's Gavin Newsom.

00:13:38.680 And he's saying basically to America, hey, I was here first.

00:13:42.420 Don't let this guy cut ahead of me.

00:13:44.340 So I'm going to if that's what you guys in the Democratic backroom want, that you want an open primary, quote unquote, open to get rid of Kamala.

00:13:53.000 Then you've got to pick me because I'm ahead of the line.

00:13:56.100 I've done it twice and it's my turn.

00:13:58.320 So he's he wouldn't do that.

00:14:00.220 And you know that better than I do, Megan, unless he was getting pretty good information that Joe Biden is not going to run again.

00:14:08.100 But to make the next 16 months viable, they can't tell anybody that he'd be at the lamest of all lame ducks in our presidential history if he's if we know that he's not going to run because then all the attention would say we'll even finish his term.

00:14:22.780 I really do.

00:14:23.560 I'm not just trying to be partisan, but I do think there's 50 percent chance he won't finish his term.

00:14:29.740 He's one he's one trip away from oblivion.

00:14:33.000 And he really is. If he was to trip again off a bicycle or fall or a stairway or a stage, people with that health chat, those health challenges, they deteriorate very quickly when they break their hip or knee.

00:14:47.140 And then he's one he's one remark.

00:14:49.460 He's one crazy remark about beyond caricature or he could take a young, poor, innocent girl and hug her as he did on the Finland tarmac and start.

00:15:01.520 I don't know what he was doing, nippling her at her neck or something or blowing her hair.

00:15:05.940 If he does it again, I think any of those things would pretty much convince people that he can't be the president of the United States.

00:15:14.360 And this is so ironic, Megan, because remember when Donald Trump said, I have a bigger button than yours?

00:15:19.660 Everybody's we got Bandy Yee, the Yale psychiatrist, and she testified before the Democratic Senate and said that we needed an intervention with a straitjacket with Trump.

00:15:29.900 And then we had the pressure for the Montreal Cognitive Assessment that Monty Jackson gave Trump.

00:15:37.060 And we had, I think it was Rod Rosenstein and Andrew McCabe put on wires because they needed to get proof that Donald Trump was in, you know, non-compos mentis.

00:15:47.960 Because he wasn't sane or he wasn't well.

00:15:50.680 And given all of that, and we saw Mark Milley was so worried he had to call his Chinese counterpart, warn him that Trump was crazy in case there was a nuclear tension arising.

00:16:02.660 But you don't, all those people who did that, they're silent. 0.98

00:16:06.400 They don't, I mean, they're so hypocritical. 0.98

00:16:08.300 Look at this, Victor. 0.98

00:16:10.460 You mentioned his weirdness with the young women and the girls.

00:16:13.680 This is a picture of him at the Elliott Hine Middle School in Washington where he was pictured.

00:16:18.840 What's he doing?

00:16:19.680 He's touching this girl's face.

00:16:22.080 I mean, this girl looks, I don't know, like a young teenager and he's leaning over.

00:16:26.780 Like there's one every month of him behaving inappropriately with a young female, right?

00:16:33.840 Like, or sometimes an older female. 0.99

00:16:36.540 You know, we had Betsy, Betsy DeVos on the show. 1.00

00:16:39.100 I know.

00:16:39.520 Right?

00:16:39.840 Talking about how he put his sweaty forehead against her forehead when she was in a wheelchair after an injury.

00:16:45.520 And she felt me too'd by the guy.

00:16:47.440 But it doesn't matter, young or old, he's inappropriate with women.

00:16:51.240 And I do think.

00:16:51.820 He is.

00:16:52.340 Remember Scott, the, is it Brown, the Senate, Senator from Massachusetts, that he had to, I guess, level an implied threat to Biden that not to touch his wife.

00:17:02.980 So intimately.

00:17:04.560 And that, he, I guess what we're saying is that he always did that, but now he has lost that cognitive self-control that he shouldn't do it.

00:17:14.040 And he's liberated in a very sick way.

00:17:17.740 There it is.

00:17:18.260 There it is.

00:17:18.720 So that's, I predict within the next 18 months, we're going to see a book from a former Biden aide talking about the nightmare that was trying to manage this story.

00:17:29.660 As, as incident after incident happened.

00:17:31.920 And I think Hawaii will be 100% in there because what happened out there really was dreadful with the, you know, not being able to pronounce anybody or say anybody's names properly.

00:17:42.120 Actually comparing his house fire and the potential loss of a cat and a Corvette to people's dead children.

00:17:50.140 I mean, that's a nightmare.

00:17:52.240 That's a nightmare for those sitting there.

00:17:53.960 It's a nightmare for his aides.

00:17:56.180 They see it.

00:17:56.980 There's no way they don't see it, even though they wouldn't publicly right now come out and say it.

00:18:01.220 So they must be in a scramble behind the scenes to figure out what the hell to do about this guy.

00:18:07.620 Yeah.

00:18:08.360 And it's a burden on the Republicans.

00:18:10.980 So McCarthy's got a real problem as housekeeper because by any fair measure, you would either be invoking the 25th Amendment or starting serious impeachment.

00:18:22.900 But they don't want Kamala Harris. 0.99

00:18:26.280 Half of them want, half of them want Kamala Harris because it would destroy the Democratic Party. 1.00

00:18:30.960 And the other half said, we can't go that far.

00:18:32.820 It'll destroy the country.

00:18:34.260 And yet they want to punish the Democrats for all the things they've done, and especially Biden's incapability.

00:18:40.680 And they don't know what.

00:18:42.020 So they've kind of got this new word, impeachment inquiry.

00:18:46.940 And I guess that's sort of loading.

00:18:50.160 I don't want to use that metaphor, but loading the gun.

00:18:52.440 And they don't know whether to actually go through with it, depending on how he acts in the next 18 months.

00:19:00.760 But I don't know what I would do if I were the Republican leadership, because if you impeach him and the Democrats might convict him and cut him looser, then you've got Kamala Harris as the incumbent candidate.

00:19:14.340 Oh, boy.

00:19:14.780 And so I don't know what they're going to do.

00:19:17.800 I think they kind of like it right now that he's hemorrhaging as long as he finishes this term.

00:19:24.760 And then maybe they can.

00:19:27.340 I don't know what they're going to do, but they don't know either.

00:19:30.680 And that's why they have this weird term impeachment inquiry.

00:19:34.620 I love the notion.

00:19:35.960 Everything's fast breaking, I guess.

00:19:37.480 I love the notion by Jemele Hill and others that this that the objective objection to Kamala Harris is race.

00:19:44.140 That's the problem.

00:19:45.040 That's why Nikki Haley decided to tweet out.

00:19:47.960 Just remember, a vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala Harris.

00:19:50.720 As if the Republican Party doesn't fear Michelle Obama, that they fear her because she would be a politically formidable opponent.

00:19:59.900 They don't they're not fearing Kamala Harris or not fearing Kamala Harris because of skin color.

00:20:05.300 They think she's terrible.

00:20:06.480 She's a terrible politician. 1.00

00:20:07.900 And Nikki Haley is reminding people you're going to get that nincompoop in there if Joe Biden doesn't make it to the end of his term or if he gets reelected and doesn't make it to the end of the second term. 0.94

00:20:17.740 She she's saying you're going to get a doofus elected as president. 1.00

00:20:21.440 If we had this conversation 35 years ago, Republicans were very fond of Barbara Jordan.

00:20:27.780 She was kind of the voice of sanity on the border, that Democratic congressman.

00:20:31.480 She had beautiful diction, enormous vocabulary, very capable.

00:20:36.880 Everybody respected her, not because of her race, but because she was intellectually a giant.

00:20:42.580 And the same thing to a lesser degree was Shirley Chisholm when she ran for president. 0.98

00:20:46.900 She had a different take on the Vietnam War.

00:20:48.920 Everybody thought, wow, this is really good.

00:20:52.460 We have these black women that are more articulate and they're sharper than a lot of white males. 0.92

00:20:58.820 So that was decades ago. 0.88

00:21:00.820 So this is all just nonsense. 0.77

00:21:03.560 And I think a lot of this, when you have all of these elite left wing black hosts that say this, I think a lot of it's projection that they themselves have real problems with race, that they do judge people by their superficial appearance. 0.71

00:21:21.940 And they believe that your skin color is essential, not incidental to who you are.

00:21:29.000 And I think that explains a lot of it.

00:21:31.180 Other than that, and careerism, because the longer you scream racism, the more you inflate this leaking balloon of diversity, equity, inclusion.

00:21:40.780 And we're getting to a point, just to get off topic, I think everybody's pretty much had it with diversity, equity, inclusion czars and what they've been doing and the war on meritocracy.

00:21:52.100 So I think there's a lot of paranoia in the elite so-called marginalized community that have been beneficiaries of this.

00:21:59.520 You know, you speak about the Democrats and sort of projecting their own racism on the other party.

00:22:05.180 We skipped past what Joe Biden tried to do in that incoherent answer at the top, where he said, speaking about the Jacksonville shooting, right, where you've got this 22-year-old crazed young man who apparently had racist manifestos, one or more, back at home, but was said to have severe mental health issues and had been locked up for his mental health issues at least once in the past five, six years.

00:22:32.000 He says about this young man's act, we have to act against this hate-fueled violence, okay, and this all that's happening.

00:22:44.920 Then he goes into the pivot about what happened five years ago where he claims five young blacks were killed.

00:22:49.480 Not true.

00:22:50.220 One black person, one white person.

00:22:52.260 And it was at a gun shop.

00:22:53.620 No, that's not true either.

00:22:55.000 Oh, it was a store doing kids' toys.

00:22:56.720 That's also wrong.

00:22:57.740 And then he goes on to say there's a whole group of extreme people trying to erase history and then says, I never thought I'd be president talking about book bans.

00:23:07.840 He launches into an attack on Ron DeSantis. 0.99

00:23:10.540 Now, this is one thing for the morons on Twitter to try to blame the shooting by this crazed lunatic at 22 who then took his own life on DeSantis. 1.00

00:23:19.740 That's Twitter for you. 0.99

00:23:20.960 But this is the president of the United States trying clearly to tie what happened there, that racist and madman violence, to Ron DeSantis, despite the fact that there is zero proof that this kid had read a single thing that Ron DeSantis had ever said in any news article, etc.

00:23:41.380 Yeah, I mean, the whole book banning thing is very interesting because what Ron DeSantis was trying to do, along with Glenn Youngkin and others was in Virginia, was just simply not have a pornographic graphic novel type of literature that portrays transgender or gay sex for minors.

00:24:09.140 Just have that accessible and then not teach critical race theory, which says that all things can be explained by racial bias.

00:24:18.460 And the people who are trying to ban books, that was the irony again.

00:24:21.780 I mean, nobody on the right said, let's ban To Kill a Mockingbird.

00:24:25.120 There's a lot of school districts that ban that.

00:24:27.200 They ban Tom Sawyer.

00:24:28.780 They ban a lot of Mark Twain's work because of the N-word, which is not used pejoratively, but just part of the dialogue of the time.

00:24:37.160 So, again, it's that projection.

00:24:40.960 And Joe Biden, you know, I don't understand, Megan.

00:24:45.160 I understand it, but it's so baffling that here we have Joe Biden, who made a career as a senator, pretty much demagoguing race when he said it was a jungle and against busing.

00:24:58.820 That was fine, but he really demagogued it.

00:25:01.060 And then he had the donut comment and then put you all back in chains where he addressed a group of black professionals as if they were helpless and they needed him to keep them out of slavery. 0.94

00:25:12.080 And then he said, you ain't black. 0.93

00:25:13.660 And then he said about black Barack Obama.

00:25:16.160 He's the first clean, articulate black candidate for presidency, which actually wasn't true.

00:25:21.820 Shirley Chisholm ran.

00:25:23.280 It was very impressive.

00:25:24.320 And he just goes at it again and again.

00:25:26.920 He's called and during his president, he's called two aides, one guy in Louisiana, another one.

00:25:31.040 I have a boy down here and we've got a good boy here.

00:25:34.400 So if there's anybody who's used racist or insensitive language, it's Joe Biden.

00:25:39.720 And you can cite chapter and verse.

00:25:42.180 But we actually have some of that, Victor.

00:25:43.820 We have a montage of some of the Joe Biden examples, which he gets a complete pass on as he sits there attempting to lecture us about book bans and how the curriculum needs to be in Florida.

00:25:56.680 Here is a bit of that in South 4.

00:25:59.780 It's awful hard as well to get Latinx vaccinated as well.

00:26:06.200 Why?

00:26:07.200 They're worried that they'll be vaccinated and deported. 0.95

00:26:09.740 If you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black. 0.98

00:26:14.540 Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community. 0.88

00:26:20.740 Poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids. 1.00

00:26:23.820 You cannot go to a 7-Eleven or a Dunkin' Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. 1.00

00:26:30.080 I mean, you've got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean.

00:26:42.000 Oh, my God.

00:26:43.280 I mean, just to hear it that way, right out of the horse's mouth, it's stunning.

00:26:49.200 The examples, we could go on.

00:26:51.060 That was not all of them, as you pointed out in your preamble.

00:26:53.660 He gets a complete pass, and now he has the nerve to try to sit there and lecture us.

00:26:58.580 I know.

00:26:59.240 On, you know, he's really upset about the DEI curriculum down in Florida, I'm sure.

00:27:04.940 Yeah, I mean, it's crazy.

00:27:06.540 I was going to a car lot, look at cars the other night, and a pretty middle-class person was the salesman.

00:27:13.380 One of them said to me just out of the blue, he didn't know who I was or anything, didn't know me.

00:27:16.880 I was a stranger.

00:27:17.520 And he just said, can I ask you a question?

00:27:19.960 And I said, yeah.

00:27:20.620 I said, you teach?

00:27:22.020 And I said, yeah.

00:27:22.680 And he said, did we impeach a president of the United States for threatening to delay something and investigate the Bidens, but we didn't impeach Biden?

00:27:33.940 So did we impeach the wrong guy for the same crimes that Biden has committed?

00:27:37.740 And I said, that's brilliant.

00:27:39.460 I said, that is absolutely brilliant.

00:27:41.180 Joe Biden didn't threaten to delay.

00:27:43.060 He threatened to cancel unless they fired Victor Shokin.

00:27:46.620 And he changed U.S. foreign policy against the directives of a State Department memo for his own, I think, lucre.

00:27:55.780 And then he went after his likely, or at least the leading opponent in the next election.

00:28:02.020 That's exactly what we impeached Donald Trump for.

00:28:05.180 And I don't think Trump was guilty of either charge, but Biden surely would be if we would apply the same standard.

00:28:11.900 Well, that's exactly right.

00:28:12.820 And this whole thing that's happening, yes, with Hunter, but also with Joe and their overseas business dealings is getting more and more interesting.

00:28:23.080 And you're exactly right.

00:28:24.120 So John Solomon's been doing great reporting on what's happening with Hunter and Joe overseas and the firing of that Ukrainian prosecutor.

00:28:31.140 The allegation being that, and, you know, we've heard Joe Biden on camera bragging that he's the one who got Victor Shokin, the Ukrainian prosecutor, fired. 0.99

00:28:39.080 Son of a bitch, they did it, right? 1.00

00:28:40.560 They did it. 1.00

00:28:41.480 He threatened to withhold a billion dollars in aid unless they fired him, and they fired him. 1.00

00:28:45.000 Son of a bitch, they did. 0.99

00:28:47.160 Well, his defense to that, because his critics say, you did that because Hunter was on the board of Burisma. 1.00

00:28:52.500 Shokin was investigating Burisma.

00:28:54.780 Burisma went to Hunter to say, help us out, get the old man off our back. 0.96

00:28:57.880 Get the old man to get this prosecutor off our back, and that in December of 15, there was a phone call exactly about that, according to Devin Archer.

00:29:06.540 But even prior to that, it seems clear that the Bidens knew Burisma would like Shokin and the Ukrainian corruption sniffing around them to go away. 0.88

00:29:17.220 Well, all along, it's been like, well, you know, the Europeans wanted Shokin gone. 1.00

00:29:24.240 They didn't think he was doing a good enough job of investigating corruption.

00:29:27.880 And, you know, our State Department wanted it, too.

00:29:29.880 Well, that's actually not true.

00:29:31.960 Now we see this new information that the State Department was actually advocating, was actually saying that they were doing a good job,

00:29:41.040 that Shokin was doing a good job over there in Ukraine. 0.57

00:29:44.660 As early as September, like the summer leading up to the guy's firing by Joe Biden, which is why you just said Joe Biden did it against the recommendations and desires of his own State Department at the time.

00:30:00.040 And while all this goes down, Victor Shokin, the fired prosecutor, sits down with Brian Kilmeade.

00:30:06.420 This is a great interview at Fox News.

00:30:09.500 This is via translator.

00:30:10.560 You can hear Shokin's comments.

00:30:11.780 But take a listen to what he said about what went down there in Sot 6.

00:30:16.200 I do not want to deal in unproven facts, but my firm personal conviction is that, yes, this was the case.

00:30:27.700 They were being bribed.

00:30:28.920 The fact that Joe Biden gave away $1 billion in U.S. money in exchange for my dismissal, my firing, isn't that alone a case of corruption?

00:30:41.440 So what do we have to make of that?

00:30:46.240 Well, it was funny about that.

00:30:48.600 I think he remarked that he was kind of bewildered that Fox asked him for an interview, that nobody had even dared to interview him for all these years.

00:30:56.100 Because people like John Kerry had promulgated this lie that the State Department had seen that he was corrupt and Joe was just carrying out a government directive.

00:31:05.040 I think the paranoia, though, was we have high crimes and misdemeanors spelled out in the Constitution, but we only have really two specificities, and one is bribery and one is treason.

00:31:16.400 And when you look at a classical definition of treason, it is warping your national interest for your personal benefit or the benefit of a foreign power.

00:31:27.240 And if he's impeached and they can prove that, of all people, Joe Biden went against the national interest of the United States as reified by a State Department official policy for his own benefit or the benefit of Hunter or the protection of his family, which was against the interest of the United States, and bribery would be part of that.

00:31:52.980 Then you have the two things outlined in the Constitution he violated.

00:31:56.620 And I think that's one reason why they got together with the Europeans and created this false narrative that this poor guy was utterly corrupt and Joe Biden was just kind of formalizing what was official U.S. policy.

00:32:10.000 And that lie, nobody that had any empirical sense believed, but we were always shot.

00:32:18.200 I think I wrote that four years ago, along with a lot of other people, and you would get violently attacked.

00:32:23.820 Oh, you don't you're not up on it. 0.98

00:32:25.260 Viktor Shokin was a crook. 0.96

00:32:26.760 You don't know the Europeans wanted him gone. 0.99

00:32:29.540 And that was all a lie.

00:32:31.620 So just to go through some of John Solomon's reporting at Just the News, and I'm trying to get the timeline correct.

00:32:37.260 He says in June of 2015, there was a letter from Victoria Nuland, who was the State Department's lead on Ukraine.

00:32:44.800 She sent a letter to Viktor Shokin, this prosecutor, on behalf of then-Secretary of State John Kerry, congratulating Viktor Shokin, suggesting they were impressed with the job he was doing on corruption reform.

00:32:58.080 That's June of 2015.

00:33:00.500 Then September of 2015, the Interagency Policy Committee, which is a federal task force advising the White House on Ukraine, affirmed that Shokin's reform effort, this prosecutor, was advancing enough to warrant the new loan guarantee, the thing that they were after.

00:33:19.640 Then, okay, then we get to October of 2015, and a task force made up of state treasury and justice had decided Ukraine and Shokin had made enough progress on anti-corruption reforms for Ukraine to receive a new $1 billion U.S. loan guarantee.

00:33:38.760 Things are going swimmingly.

00:33:40.260 That's between June and October 2015.

00:33:43.340 You're doing a great job on all the anti-corruption.

00:33:46.140 Good for you.

00:33:46.720 Keep going.

00:33:47.240 And within one month, this is Solomon reporting about a month later, Joe Biden and his top advisors did an about-face, a sudden about-face on Shokin, contradictory to what the career staff had been recommending, and within a few months demanded that he be fired.

00:34:08.240 Now, they have not uncovered specific evidence that Hunter Biden specifically asked his father to take that action.

00:34:14.640 They don't, of course, have a tape recording of Hunter saying, Dad, get this guy off of our backs.

00:34:20.900 I'm on the board of this company.

00:34:22.300 We can't have him breathing down our necks like this.

00:34:24.680 But we do know, again, thanks to Devin Archer, that they did, that there was a conversation in December 2015.

00:34:33.780 He said Hunter and Burisma executives called DC in December 2015, just days before Vice President Joe Biden traveled to Ukraine to ask the Obama administration to help get Shokin fired.

00:34:49.400 Then Joe Biden went to Ukraine, made his threat, and by, I think it was March or June of the following year, 16, he was on camera bragging about getting Shokin fired.

00:35:02.760 The plot thickens.

00:35:04.980 It's getting very uncomfortable.

00:35:06.600 And they are like a hair away from actually having the smoking gun on this, Victor.

00:35:13.020 Yeah, they were.

00:35:13.960 And I think if you look at the political landscape at that time, Hillary Clinton had shoved Biden to the side, and she was going to be the nominee.

00:35:22.660 And from all practical considerations, she was going to, you know, win on the landslide over Donald Trump.

00:35:30.340 And Joe Biden was thinking, I don't have a career to protect anymore, but I do have influence right now as Vice President, and I better maximize it while I have my tenure.

00:35:39.700 But he wasn't thinking, I have to be very careful because I'm going to announce that I'm going to be a candidate for the presidency, and this stuff could come back to haunt me.

00:35:49.000 So I think he was getting very reckless at this time.

00:35:51.240 And he was kind of bitter that Hillary was acclaimed as the nominee before he had even had a chance to consider it.

00:35:59.240 People were already at that time saying he was too old or he had cognitive challenges.

00:36:04.040 So I think he was really taking a lot of risk and being pretty explicit.

00:36:09.800 And I think that's going to come back to haunt him.

00:36:12.220 I don't know what we do with all this, though, Megan.

00:36:14.480 And when we've talked about the cognitive problems of Joe Biden in a historical sense, and then you look at this massive, this is the most corrupt presidential family in history.

00:36:24.580 And when you look at the actual record of what he's done to the United States on the economy, and as I said, the border on crime and energy, Afghanistan pullout, saying that he wouldn't react to Ukraine if it was a minor offensive, or he wanted to get Zelensky out the first week, or if you're going to hack U.S. targets, would Putin please put some off limits?

00:36:45.280 You put all that together, it is an utter catastrophe.

00:36:49.320 And yet, there's no reaction from the media, there's no reaction from the Democratic Party, there's just Trump, Trump, Trump.

00:36:56.880 And I've never seen things like it.

00:36:58.940 I really haven't seen such damage done to the country without any pushback.

00:37:03.240 If there's an actual impeachment against Joe Biden, they'll have no choice but to cover it.

00:37:07.140 And honestly, given the parallels between the impeachment number one of Trump and what we're seeing here, the impeachment number one of Trump told us that it is an impeachable offense for a U.S. president to condition assistance to Ukraine on his belief that they need to further investigate corruption, which might, in the Trump case, have a political benefit to him.

00:37:32.460 What the Biden story is, is that he allegedly conditioned assistance to Ukraine on them getting rid of a prosecutor, and that getting rid of that prosecutor would have provided a personal benefit to the Bidens.

00:37:47.740 I mean, it's worse than what Trump is accused of.

00:37:51.380 Much, much worse.

00:37:52.220 Because even then, when you go back and look at the transcript of that call, Trump threatened to delay it.

00:37:58.860 Biden said he was going to cancel it outright, and they weren't going to get anything.

00:38:02.460 And then, when you look at the reality, Trump greenlighted the offensive weapons in terms of javelins that were really important the first week of that war that Biden and Obama had not approved.

00:38:15.120 And so, if it hadn't been for Trump, they wouldn't have had any javelins at the siege of Kiev.

00:38:20.880 And so, it's a lot worse what Biden did.

00:38:24.860 They can't avoid it.

00:38:26.040 If an impeachment, this is, of course, for acts he allegedly took as vice president, not as president.

00:38:31.900 There's a question about whether you can impeach somebody.

00:38:35.140 I mean, I don't think there's nothing specifically saying the bad acts or the high crimes and misdemeanors must be done while the sitting president, while an elected official in this particular role.

00:38:45.800 I'm going to have to go back and look at it.

00:38:46.860 But that is a twist that it happened while he was the city.

00:38:50.480 But you've got to remember, they've destroyed, as you pointed out, they've destroyed all precedents.

00:38:54.420 Because when they impeached Donald Trump, they broke with custom and tradition of the Bill Clinton sense and the possible impeachment of Richard Nixon in the sense that they didn't have any special counsel specifically to go after.

00:39:09.000 They just said, we're not going to investigate him.

00:39:10.680 They didn't bring in witnesses.

00:39:11.820 They didn't have a hearing.

00:39:12.680 They took that thing in December, and they just rushed it right through.

00:39:16.120 And the idea was, well, we didn't work with Mueller, so we're going to work now.

00:39:20.020 And we're not going to have a special counsel.

00:39:21.360 We're not going to have cross-examination of witnesses.

00:39:23.800 We're not going to invest.

00:39:24.460 We're just going to impeach him.

00:39:25.800 The second thing they did with the second impeachment, they said, we don't really care that there's no legal precedent.

00:39:32.020 We don't know what the law is.

00:39:33.240 But we're going to try him after he's impeached as a private citizen, even though he's out of office in the Senate.

00:39:40.900 And it's what they always do.

00:39:42.760 They create these new precedents with this arrogance in UBIS that's never going to come back and bite them.

00:39:48.520 And it does.

00:39:49.600 And so whether it's getting rid of the Senate filibuster and then whining about it, or the blue wall is so important, and we thank God for the electoral college, now it's a racist hangover from the Jim Crow era.

00:40:03.880 Whatever they find useful, then they institutionalize it.

00:40:07.160 And then when other people say, okay, you set the precedent, we're going to use it, then like teenagers, they start weeping.

00:40:14.080 And they've really destroyed the idea that impeachment was supposed to be pretty rare and not really directed.

00:40:21.560 If you read the Federalist Papers, that a first-term president, the moment he loses the majority in the House, and that's what we've done now.

00:40:29.160 I think we're going to institutionalize that.

00:40:30.820 If you're a president and you're controversial and you lose your majority or you don't have it your first term, you're probably going to be impeached.

00:40:38.160 Yeah, you better watch it.

00:40:39.100 And here, you know, the timeline that's being laid out is very damning.

00:40:44.640 I mean, we'll hear what he has to say about it at some point, I imagine.

00:40:49.280 But, you know, we've already gone through how the summer of 2015, they're doing a great job over there.

00:40:54.680 The Ukrainian prosecutor's office is investigating corruption just fine.

00:40:59.180 As recently as September, October, he's doing just fine.

00:41:02.580 Shokin, yeah, good on him, you know, from Victoria Nuland and others at state.

00:41:06.820 He's going after it.

00:41:07.780 And then you've got these details that then November 15 is when it seemed to change.

00:41:15.140 A Ukraine desk officer at the State Department forwards Joe Biden's talking points for meetings, his upcoming meetings with Ukrainian leaders.

00:41:25.700 Suddenly, they see a new condition to fire.

00:41:28.520 Viktor Shokin has been added to the requirements.

00:41:31.820 This surprised the State Department.

00:41:34.320 They had not seen that.

00:41:35.800 Joe Biden goes to Ukraine in December of 15 and his talking points memo includes a requirement that Shokin must be fired. 1.00

00:41:43.800 I refer you back to December 15 as when Devin Archer says Burisma executives and Hunter called D.C.

00:41:51.160 to try to get Shokin off the back of Burisma. 1.00

00:41:54.620 So now by December, his talking points memo to the surprise of the State Department has a condition that they have to fire Shokin. 0.60

00:42:01.100 And even by January of 16, the White House seniors were not in the loop on Joe Biden's plan.

00:42:09.660 Again, citing John Solomon's reporting and just the news, January 2016, Obama White House circulates a document on the loan guarantee to Ukraine that's identical to a previous conditions memo.

00:42:21.680 And it makes no demand for Shokin's removal. 0.87

00:42:26.680 They weren't pushing for it. Obama wasn't pushing for it.

00:42:29.940 His senior executives and officials were Joe Biden was pushing for it.

00:42:34.800 And then he did it. And it was March 29th, 2016 that Shokin was fired.

00:42:41.560 Two years later, Joe Biden's on camera saying this.

00:42:45.260 I said, I'm telling you, you're not getting a billion dollars.

00:42:50.360 I said, you're not getting a billion. I'm going to be leaving here.

00:42:53.000 I think it was what, six hours. I looked at him leaving in six hours.

00:42:56.380 If the prosecutor is not fired, you're not getting the money. 1.00

00:42:59.320 Oh, son of a bitch. 1.00

00:43:01.560 Got fired. 1.00

00:43:04.620 Yeah, we're really lucky that he Joe Biden has a sense of pseudo machismo because he's very insecure.

00:43:10.880 So he always confesses to his crimes. 0.99

00:43:13.880 It's kind of that comment that he's the big he man and he went over and he did this and he was son of a bitch and all that stuff. 0.99

00:43:20.940 You remember he said, I think on two occasions, he said he was going to take Trump behind the gym and beat him up. 0.99

00:43:26.080 And then there was the corn pop saga about he got some chains sawed off and he was going to meet them.

00:43:31.320 And then there was the story that somebody had insulted his sister.

00:43:34.900 So he went to a lunch counter and slammed the guy's head on the thing.

00:43:37.680 It's that whole narrative that he's he's Joe Biden from Scranton, tough guy.

00:43:43.100 And this time it really did him in because it's in his own words, because he can't refrain from magnifying or exaggerating his his sense of self.

00:43:52.360 And it really hurt him.

00:43:54.000 Peter Schweitzer, I think, might have been the first person to really tell us about that clip when he was really on that story very early.

00:44:02.860 Well, now you've got the news sort of closing on Hunter Biden, on Joe Biden, the corruption scandal.

00:44:10.360 I mean, you can just see it's it's getting tighter and tighter and it's getting more and more uncomfortable for them.

00:44:15.560 Meanwhile, Hunter Biden continues to behave like he's some sort of a mob boss.

00:44:19.840 He's reportedly out there in Malibu at some gazillion dollar mansion.

00:44:23.700 Where is he getting the money from?

00:44:24.760 Hunter Biden, as far as I know, hasn't really been gainfully employed a decade other than these monies.

00:44:30.020 It was one of the subjects that was raised at the White House press briefing as Corrine Jean-Pierre is finally back.

00:44:35.960 Peter Doocy got into it on that and a couple of other subjects.

00:44:38.940 But watch her trying to handle the Hunter Biden inquiries.

00:44:44.460 The Secret Service is paying sixteen thousand dollars a month now to stage near Hunter Biden in Malibu.

00:44:50.180 Who's paying for that? 0.60

00:44:51.300 That's a question for the Secret Service.

00:44:52.480 Hunter Biden is reportedly selling art to pay for his fifteen thousand eight hundred dollar a month rent in Malibu.

00:45:00.600 How can you guarantee that people are not going to be buying this art to gain favor with the president?

00:45:07.060 That is a question for Hunter Biden and his representatives.

00:45:10.260 It's a question.

00:45:10.840 I know.

00:45:11.360 I hear.

00:45:11.880 I hear.

00:45:12.180 I hear.

00:45:12.260 I hear your question.

00:45:13.860 We know that one of the art buyers got a job from the Biden administration.

00:45:16.640 Can you guarantee that there is no.

00:45:18.280 I hear.

00:45:18.480 I hear your question.

00:45:19.460 I'm not going to get involved in this, but we know that from a hundred by an associate

00:45:23.980 now that he's sold the appearance of access to then Vice President Biden.

00:45:30.640 Are you confident that he has stopped doing that?

00:45:34.500 That is a question for Hunter Biden.

00:45:36.360 If somebody is selling the appearance of access to the White House, that is a question for the

00:45:39.580 White House.

00:45:40.140 No, that is that is your your.

00:45:43.780 I don't know how you're perceiving that.

00:45:46.420 OK, it's all everything for Hunter has nothing to do with Joe.

00:45:53.560 Yeah.

00:45:53.920 I mean, what what Corinne Jean-Pierre is saying to us is that how do you know that Hunter is not

00:46:00.540 Picasso or Van Gogh and he has all this talent?

00:46:03.540 How do you know that these people are not so impressed that they're willing to pay half of

00:46:07.060 a million dollars for this beautiful art?

00:46:10.020 And how do you know that it's just incidental or if at all that they talked or had access

00:46:15.340 to the White House that you're you're making that up, Peter?

00:46:17.700 That's perfectly rational.

00:46:19.120 He's got great talent.

00:46:20.500 He's on the market.

00:46:21.820 He's beating out all these professional artists and everybody rents fifteen thousand

00:46:26.400 dollar a month places at Malibu, just like everybody like is a senator and has only been

00:46:31.000 in private life four years out of his entire life.

00:46:34.420 And Joe Biden, he's got a big rental in Georgia.

00:46:36.440 I think the Virginia is over fifteen thousand a month himself.

00:46:39.720 He's got a beach house and he's got a Wilmington mansion, three of them.

00:46:44.100 And if we need some forensic tax accountants to just look at the amount of money that was

00:46:49.160 spent or would have likely been spent, because it's probably not very hard.

00:46:53.360 There's not a lot of paper trail.

00:46:54.840 Then see where the income that he reported justified that.

00:46:58.580 Where did the money come from?

00:47:00.080 And don't tell me the people want the art.

00:47:02.040 I mean, Abby, my assistant, her daughter Lillian started kindergarten today.

00:47:05.500 Hey, Lillian, I put her art up against Hunter Biden any day.

00:47:08.960 Abs.

00:47:09.180 Yes.

00:47:09.480 Am I right?

00:47:10.280 Yes.

00:47:10.820 Yes.

00:47:11.320 Nobody.

00:47:11.960 Nobody's offering Lillian half a million dollars for her art.

00:47:14.740 He only had one talent.

00:47:16.080 That's what he could paint with his mouth.

00:47:17.860 That was all he could do.

00:47:19.360 And that was even a cruel joke, given his cocaine habit.

00:47:22.620 I'm going to I'm going to go back on the YouTube show and lay in Hunter Biden's art

00:47:26.240 on one half and Lillian's art on the other half.

00:47:28.500 And the audience.

00:47:28.880 You should.

00:47:29.220 That'd be a great idea.

00:47:30.220 They can make up their own minds.

00:47:31.380 All right.

00:47:31.500 And they can buy you can buy it for five hundred thousand if you'd like.

00:47:34.820 All right.

00:47:36.780 Stand by.

00:47:37.280 Victor Davis Hanson stays with us for the full next hour.

00:47:40.780 And remember, you can find Megyn Kelly show live on Sirius XM Triumph Channel 111 every

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00:47:49.640 youtube.com slash Megyn Kelly.

00:47:52.180 So, Victor, I didn't get your take.

00:47:58.580 I've heard you say it on your show, but I didn't get your take yet today with us on the

00:48:03.120 GOP presidential debate.

00:48:04.500 We talked about the possibility of a Bernie Sanders throwing his hat in on the Dem side,

00:48:10.680 maybe Gavin Newsom if Joe Biden withdraws.

00:48:13.820 More and more.

00:48:14.680 I'm starting to hear the name Glenn Youngkin on the Republican side as a possible white

00:48:20.820 knight to come in and save the party.

00:48:23.660 He's the guy who managed to get elected in what is now a blue Virginia.

00:48:28.060 The suburban moms loved him.

00:48:29.740 Big parental rights and education guy who somehow manages to bridge the divide between the hardcore

00:48:35.240 MAGA and the suburban soccer moms. 1.00

00:48:38.260 So what do you make of that possibility?

00:48:40.000 And what did you think?

00:48:40.800 Is it necessary based on what you saw with respect to this debate and then Trump's separate?

00:48:46.180 Yeah, I think it all hinges on the perception of Ron DeSantis.

00:48:50.240 He's still the most viable alternative for those who want an alternative to Donald Trump.

00:48:57.040 And I think in the first debate, he did pretty well, actually.

00:49:01.560 When you actually look at the transcript and what he said, I think that there was a lot of

00:49:05.560 criticisms when he hesitated and looked sideways at whether.

00:49:09.720 And I don't know what the question really it was.

00:49:12.200 Whether do you think Donald Trump, if convicted, should be the nominee?

00:49:16.860 And I don't know whether all of them look confused.

00:49:19.580 They thought, well, we're all here because we said we were going to endorse the nominees.

00:49:23.580 So what's the question?

00:49:25.280 Do we get an out if he's I don't know?

00:49:27.420 It wasn't really the moderation wasn't good in that aspect.

00:49:30.740 But I think he did a workman like and he's still very viable.

00:49:33.920 But there's no doubt about it that the donor class feels that Glenn Youngkin is a happy warrior in the Reagan-esque tradition.

00:49:43.520 He smiles.

00:49:44.240 He's funny.

00:49:44.800 And yet he's not sort of stereotyped in the Bob Dole, Mitt Romney, John McCain, Bush rhino mold, if I could use that term.

00:49:58.060 It's kind of unfair.

00:49:58.880 But in the sense that he's evangelical and he's a cultural conservative.

00:50:02.740 So they're anxious to put their money on somebody like that, but they don't know what Juan DeSantis is going to do.

00:50:10.500 And it looks like he's incrementally getting a little bit stronger.

00:50:14.460 But at some point, I think his team probably feels that he's got to accelerate the performance and up it a little bit.

00:50:22.940 As far as the other, I was really shocked.

00:50:25.080 I don't know if you were, but I always thought that Mike Pence was maybe, you know,

00:50:30.420 a very conservative, traditional guy, very polite.

00:50:34.320 But I think that he had been advised and maybe it was good advice because he got the most airtime,

00:50:39.240 but he came across as really abrupt, interrupting.

00:50:43.000 He was the only person that had to be advised by the moderators to tone it down and let other people speak.

00:50:48.380 He kept fixating on himself, January 6th, what I did, what I did.

00:50:54.280 And so I wasn't impressed with him.

00:50:57.060 I wasn't impressed with Chris Christie.

00:50:58.900 My only surprise about Chris Christie, I thought he'd go after DeSantis more, and he didn't.

00:51:06.520 I think for a variety of reasons, they feel that Roswami is a better target right now, 0.97

00:51:12.420 and that if they eliminate him, maybe they can consolidate a little bit around DeSantis.

00:51:18.100 And then if DeSantis were to get the nomination, some of these candidates who were soft on him,

00:51:23.380 I think might feel that they were up for appointments.

00:51:25.680 That's just speculation.

00:51:28.200 But Roswami, I know that he's the heartthrob of the younger generation,

00:51:33.060 but some of the stuff he said that everybody here has bought off,

00:51:37.240 and I've always been tough on China, that's not true.

00:51:41.100 He had some investments in China.

00:51:42.900 He's very well-spoken.

00:51:44.260 He's a rhetorician.

00:51:45.340 He's got a wonderful presentation.

00:51:47.380 But I don't think, by his own words, I think he said on one occasion that you shouldn't vote for someone without experience.

00:51:53.760 He was probably right about that.

00:51:55.780 I don't know why Asa Hutchinson is in there.

00:51:58.260 I don't know why Bergen is, it just clutters up the field.

00:52:02.280 Their problem is they need to get down.

00:52:04.160 Each debate, they need to start eliminating one or two candidates so we can really see,

00:52:08.380 you know, one-to-one headoff between candidates if there isn't an alternative to Trump.

00:52:14.360 The only thing that I think is important, I don't see, I can see why Donald Trump stayed out of this.

00:52:20.440 It made sense.

00:52:21.460 But there is some polling that suggests, I think Nate Silver has some, that he lost a little bit of support.

00:52:27.840 Because I don't know what the alternative venue, maybe you do, Megan,

00:52:30.720 but I don't think you can keep giving Tucker, like, interviews 10 or 12 times at the night of the debate.

00:52:38.340 Maybe you can substitute a rally or another interviewer.

00:52:41.680 But at some point, you've got to get back in the arena.

00:52:44.760 And he's a very good debater.

00:52:46.340 So I'm not sure that that has a very long shelf life staying away.

00:52:50.340 And then when he does get back, if he chooses to, he's going to have to endorse the nominee.

00:52:55.340 I mean, that's going to really hurt him if he says,

00:52:57.240 well, I'm going to go back, but I'm not going to endorse the nominee.

00:53:01.220 But I was very angry in 2016 that nobody endorsed me on the stage

00:53:05.620 when I won the nomination after we had all pledged to endorse the winner.

00:53:09.780 So there's a couple of speed bumps they need to address.

00:53:13.820 What is he going to do if he's not going to debate?

00:53:15.600 And if he does debate, is he going to endorse the potential nominee or the actual nominee?

00:53:21.400 But otherwise, Nikki Haley, whose politics I think are a little bit 1990s, did very well.

00:53:32.760 She was very well-spoken.

00:53:34.300 She was fiery. 0.91

00:53:35.400 She was tough.

00:53:36.720 She battled it out.

00:53:38.300 I don't agree with her on some things on foreign policy,

00:53:40.600 but I thought otherwise she was pretty impressive.

00:53:42.960 So she did very well.

00:53:45.020 And I thought DeSantis did as well as he needed to do.

00:53:49.840 I think he helped himself somewhat.

00:53:52.040 But if he keeps doing that, he's going to help himself somewhat, somewhat, somewhat.

00:53:55.860 But at some point, he needs to help himself a lot.

00:53:58.880 And so that's pretty much my take.

00:54:00.980 That's right.

00:54:01.340 You can't have a single, a single single.

00:54:03.600 At some point, you've got to score the run.

00:54:06.080 You do.

00:54:06.520 You've got to hit a home run.

00:54:07.520 You really do.

00:54:08.440 In his position in particular.

00:54:10.540 I do think that if Trump's numbers begin to fall after the next debate,

00:54:14.240 I think, is September 27th with Fox Business,

00:54:16.200 and then there's a third in, I think it's Alabama, in October.

00:54:22.000 If his numbers fall in any meaningful way after those debates, he'll get in.

00:54:27.860 He'll get back into the debates. 0.62

00:54:28.900 He's not dumb. 0.91

00:54:29.620 I think he will.

00:54:30.220 I don't think he feels the need right now.

00:54:31.980 And plus, he's dealing with all these criminal things.

00:54:34.080 So it's like he's got stuff to focus on.

00:54:36.300 I just, we'll see.

00:54:38.260 I do want to show this.

00:54:39.700 This has been making the rounds online.

00:54:41.320 And if you're not super online, good for you.

00:54:43.180 You stay, keep doing what you're doing.

00:54:46.000 But this was one benefit of being super online.

00:54:48.280 And that is a young Vivek Ramaswamy, who I believe he must have been, I think it's 18.

00:54:53.820 They said it's 20 years ago.

00:54:54.880 He's 38.

00:54:56.940 At some sort of town hall questioning then presidential candidate Al Sharpton

00:55:02.420 about why he deserves Vivek's or anybody else's vote.

00:55:07.740 Look and listen to this.

00:55:09.200 Of all the Democratic candidates out there, why should I vote for the one with the least

00:55:15.320 political experience?

00:55:16.700 Well, you shouldn't, because I have the most political experience.

00:55:19.320 I got involved in the political movement when I was 12 years old, and I've been involved

00:55:32.260 in social policy for the last 30 years.

00:55:34.420 So don't confuse people that have a job with political experience.

00:55:39.180 Well, there you go.

00:55:41.500 So that's him expressing doubts about why one should vote for somebody who, with the

00:55:46.220 least political experience, of course, Vivek sees it differently now.

00:55:50.600 Yeah.

00:55:50.840 I think if you're going to be a third candidate, third party candidate, just to take an example,

00:55:56.120 we usually, if it's Eugene Debs or it's Ross Perot or it's Donald Trump, they've carved

00:56:02.560 out a pretty big presence in whatever particular field they were that transcended business or

00:56:09.000 union organizing or something like that.

00:56:11.900 But in the case of, or if they've been a candidate without political experience, they have something

00:56:18.980 going for him, Ralph Nader, for example.

00:56:22.060 But in the case of Ross Swami, I never had heard of him until he had started this campaign.

00:56:27.300 And I have a deep suspicion, perhaps as presiditial about the whole Silicon Valley nexus, the finance,

00:56:35.760 the banking, the tech, and these young people that make enormous amounts of money.

00:56:40.580 He's probably worth a half a billion dollars, mostly, but not always exclusively overseas with

00:56:46.840 Chinese connections.

00:56:48.260 So, and yet, so that makes it a little bit hard for me to see him as an experienced politico

00:56:53.880 that is master of all the issues, and he's going to take on China, and he's going to take

00:56:59.280 on Silicon Valley, the type of things like Mark Zuckerberg putting $419 million into the

00:57:04.840 2020 campaign.

00:57:06.580 But he sounds great, and he's combative, and he livens things up.

00:57:11.000 And it's just a question of whether that's a distraction, because I don't think he or

00:57:14.460 Christie are going to get the nomination.

00:57:17.320 And when they battle it out between each other, it just sort of sucks all the oxygen out.

00:57:23.880 It's fireworks.

00:57:24.480 Tim Scott, he didn't have the ability or the desire to break in, to really help himself.

00:57:31.520 So if you're going to look at somebody from South Carolina, Nikki Haley was more expert.

00:57:35.060 I think Tim Scott's problem is that he has a very impressive, inspirational story, but

00:57:40.840 he has to translate his personal successes over endemic racism in the South of that generation

00:57:47.040 into particular political positions that only he can advance.

00:57:51.740 And he hasn't done that yet.

00:57:52.960 And he wasn't a stalwart in the Senate.

00:57:57.140 He hasn't been in the Senate that long.

00:57:58.200 He was asleep at the debate.

00:57:59.380 It was like, you know, the reason Mike Pence got the most airtime is because he kept injecting

00:58:04.040 himself into the discussions, which could border on annoying, but did get him the microphone.

00:58:10.400 And, you know, there's something to be learned from that if you're Tim Scott, who people just

00:58:14.180 completely forgot about, including yours truly.

00:58:16.500 Let me turn the page because I want to get back to this one particular thing on Joe Biden.

00:58:20.560 And here's the reason why.

00:58:22.100 Today, there's an excerpt in Politico of a book that's about to come out from a former

00:58:27.720 Biden aide called The Last Politician.

00:58:32.220 It's called The Last Politician Inside Joe Biden's White House and the Struggle for America's

00:58:36.640 Future.

00:58:37.400 Sorry, by by the Atlantic staff writer, Franklin Foer.

00:58:41.180 And there's a bit of a, you know, write up on what to expect, an excerpt from these books.

00:58:50.740 Yeah.

00:58:50.960 And so the excerpt is in The Atlantic, but Politico is reporting that Biden aides have been

00:58:55.180 scrambling to secure a copy.

00:58:57.820 So if you want to read the excerpt, go to The Atlantic.

00:58:59.840 In any event, it's all about the excerpt, the Afghanistan withdrawal, the disastrous Afghanistan

00:59:05.300 withdrawal.

00:59:06.020 And they write things like this, Victor, for a man vaunted for his empathy, Biden could

00:59:11.760 be detached, even icy when confronted with the prospect of human suffering.

00:59:17.700 I think we've seen plenty of that.

00:59:20.280 Yeah, I don't understand what he means, a man known for his empathy.

00:59:23.220 I don't I can't think of anything in his career that was an empathetic.

00:59:27.000 It's always been narcissistic.

00:59:28.500 I thought self-absorbed.

00:59:29.780 Well, here's some more.

00:59:30.540 Then they write that back.

00:59:32.540 So, you know, we just had the two year anniversary of losing 13 service personnel at the Abbey

00:59:37.980 Gate explosion when we were precipitously withdrawing our troops and our civilians from

00:59:43.300 Afghanistan.

00:59:43.760 It was on Saturday, the two year mark.

00:59:46.080 And this says this points out that during during the withdrawal, which was chaotic and so poorly

00:59:52.560 managed, that Trump's ambassador to Afghanistan, John Bass, got a call begging him to go back

01:00:02.040 to Afghanistan to take over the lead of the evacuation and to do it immediately because

01:00:08.460 the current ambassador under Joe Biden, someone named Ross Wilson, was, quote, shattered by the

01:00:14.540 experience of the past week and was not able to function at the level that was necessary

01:00:20.480 to complete the job on his own.

01:00:23.740 They go on to talk about how when the deputy secretary of state went to check in with members

01:00:27.360 of a task force working on the evacuation, she found grizzled diplomats in tears.

01:00:33.540 These State Department employees who had been dealing with some of these Afghan translators

01:00:37.840 and so on over many, many years felt shame and anger that came with the inability to help

01:00:43.820 them.

01:00:44.840 They couldn't deal with the trauma.

01:00:46.760 They needed therapy dogs that might ease the staff's pain.

01:00:49.400 All of this because of Joe Biden's orders and the way that this was handled.

01:00:54.440 And yet, as you pointed out in a great piece dated August 21st at American Greatness, as you

01:01:00.280 pointed out, here's Joe Biden talking about his history, our history and how it's completely

01:01:07.840 unblemished when it comes to our accomplishments.

01:01:11.720 Listen.

01:01:14.140 Name me a single objective we've ever set out to accomplish that we've failed on.

01:01:18.900 Name me one in all of our history.

01:01:22.260 Not one.

01:01:24.880 Wow.

01:01:27.480 Yeah, I can't think of one thing.

01:01:30.200 Afghanistan, the border, his handling early on in the Ukraine war, prime, as I said, energy,

01:01:35.800 that he had any success.

01:01:37.920 If he means, name one thing we didn't fulfill our objective, I don't think he really meant

01:01:43.360 that, meaning, did you give me a chance to screw things up?

01:01:47.180 Yes, he did have a chance.

01:01:48.860 So he screwed up the energy, was draining the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right before the

01:01:54.260 election.

01:01:54.720 He hasn't refilled it, et cetera, et cetera.

01:01:56.820 So he's been a disaster.

01:01:59.000 And that thing about Afghanistan, I thought it was, it ranked with the 1975 evacuation of

01:02:06.060 the Saigon Embassy when you saw those helicopters and they landed out on aircraft carriers and

01:02:12.620 they were pushing planes, you know, brand new fighter jets off into the ocean to get room

01:02:17.520 for these refugees and the boat people.

01:02:19.780 I'm not sure that this was, this is the worst thing since Pearl Harbor, if you think about

01:02:24.380 it, here we were with variously reported 30 to $50 billion of equipment, weapons, munitions,

01:02:33.020 guns, support.

01:02:34.780 And we just left it there at a time when we don't have a lot of stocks anyway, because

01:02:39.400 we're draining them for, you know, everything from shells to javelins for Ukraine.

01:02:44.360 And that, that stuff is not inert.

01:02:46.660 It's ending up in the international terrorist market.

01:02:48.840 We know that the Taliban is trying to fob it off or sell it on the international market.

01:02:54.440 And then we had not only just these 13 people killed, then we lied about the retaliatory

01:02:59.320 strike that killed innocent civilians.

01:03:01.340 Mark Milley said it was just justified or just attack.

01:03:05.600 It wasn't.

01:03:06.820 And then in addition to that, there was rumors that Joe Biden wanted to get them out in this

01:03:12.200 timeframe because the 20th anniversary of 9-11 was coming up and maybe the 20th anniversary

01:03:17.080 in October of being there.

01:03:18.480 And he was going to claim that after 20 years of this slugfest, I got us out on the anniversary.

01:03:24.920 And then in addition to that, the weirdest thing about it was, you know, at least the British 1.00

01:03:30.020 imperialists, when they stopped sute or some type of practice in the Raj about, you know,

01:03:35.900 the widow has to get on the funeral pyre and they stopped that, or they stopped slavery, 1.00

01:03:40.400 or they tried to stop the caste system.

01:03:42.660 They had the power to do that.

01:03:44.600 But here we were at this moment of crisis.

01:03:48.340 And we had a, I think it was $400 million we'd invested in a gender studies program over

01:03:54.600 20 years at the University of Kabul.

01:03:56.700 And then we had the pride flag that day flying from the U.S. embassy.

01:04:00.620 There were George Floyd murals.

01:04:02.400 So we were trying to force down the throat of a traditional Islamist society, this woke 0.99

01:04:08.340 narrative, but we were weak.

01:04:10.260 And so we ended up with the worst of both worlds, arrogance and weakness.

01:04:16.320 And it was just, I can't think of anything that's been more disastrous to the United States.

01:04:21.900 And it had an absolute effect on the latest, the later February invasion the next year into

01:04:29.620 Afghanistan.

01:04:30.460 Putin would have never gone in there had we not embarrassed ourselves in Afghanistan.

01:04:34.940 He was just convinced after the things that Joe Biden had said about Ukraine, you know,

01:04:39.560 minor invasion, no response.

01:04:41.240 And what we did, he thought, you know what, the United States, even if they wanted to, they

01:04:44.760 couldn't.

01:04:45.460 Look what they did in Afghanistan.

01:04:46.840 We got out of Afghanistan.

01:04:48.380 We didn't understand that.

01:04:49.360 But look how we got out.

01:04:50.820 These people have humiliated themselves.

01:04:52.740 They're just a paper tiger.

01:04:53.860 And so he has, he, and Victor Shokin really, he also said that in a different way when he

01:05:00.280 also, in that interview, it said that Joe Biden being compromised in the 2014 invasion

01:05:07.300 of Crimea and the Donbass had not, had been very influential and no response whatsoever.

01:05:12.780 And that had empowered, he said, Putin later on to take additional risk.

01:05:19.400 And we, of course, we remember the hot mic in Seoul where Barack Obama said if this was

01:05:23.820 his last election and if Putin would give him space, then he would negotiate on, on missile

01:05:29.500 defense.

01:05:30.080 And of course, we forget that they both fulfilled the bargain.

01:05:33.420 Putin then behaved until after Obama was elected in 2012.

01:05:37.680 Then he went in 2014.

01:05:39.220 And we did dismantle all of the missile defense initiatives in Poland and the Czech Republic,

01:05:45.200 which would have been pretty handy now as a deterrent for the, for Eastern Europe.

01:05:49.400 You, you, it was a disaster.

01:05:50.780 You mentioned the Southern border, speaking of disasters, and there's, there's been some

01:05:56.080 updates on it, which it's getting interesting.

01:05:58.540 This whole plan of bussing the migrants North and West is getting really interesting because, 0.99

01:06:03.880 I mean, I think it's brilliant.

01:06:04.900 DeSantis participated in it to some extent, but it's mostly been Greg Abbott, uh, governor

01:06:09.180 of Texas, and he's doing a great job.

01:06:11.520 You know, these sanctuary cities up North and in California who would say, oh, what do you

01:06:14.740 mean?

01:06:15.740 California's sanctuary state.

01:06:16.740 Um, now Los Angeles, uh, has voted to make itself a sanctuary city, New York city, sanctuary

01:06:24.580 city.

01:06:25.660 And now they are reaping what they sell because no sooner did Los Angeles declare itself a

01:06:30.960 sanctuary city.

01:06:32.180 Then they had to come out.

01:06:33.960 The LA mayor, Karen Bass had to come out and say, well, you know, we're not, we're not

01:06:39.160 extending an invitation for people to come here because they're overwhelmed.

01:06:42.220 They're overwhelmed with the number of people coming in from Texas in New York.

01:06:48.000 Just this past Sunday, there was a clash outside of Gracie mansion.

01:06:51.040 That's where the mayor lives, uh, over the migrant situation in New York, where I am right 0.77

01:06:55.480 now, more than a hundred demonstrators here screaming, throwing punches at each other, um, over

01:07:00.220 these issues and New York is overwhelmed.

01:07:02.980 They've had about a hundred thousand migrants from the Southern border, flooding the five 1.00

01:07:07.100 boroughs, forcing mayor Adams, whose message, just like Karen Bass's of LA was very different

01:07:12.400 before this happened.

01:07:13.300 Um, now he has to come up with at least 200 emergency shelters to house these people.

01:07:18.660 We don't have the room.

01:07:19.520 And New York city is now threatening to sue schools who put up any sort of a roadblock to

01:07:25.760 these illegal migrant children because they're flooding the schools. 1.00

01:07:30.320 They don't speak English.

01:07:31.540 And so some of these districts who don't even have the desks, they don't have any place to

01:07:36.040 put these kids and they have no, no ability to teach them.

01:07:38.880 You're just supposed to suddenly speak Spanish, I guess, um, have decided to start asking parents

01:07:45.340 for proof of residence, right?

01:07:47.300 Proof of taxpayer service.

01:07:49.420 And New York city is saying you better now.

01:07:49.840 I live in a community that has thousands of illegal aliens that have been bused here.

01:07:54.160 And welcome to the club.

01:07:57.200 If I had to go to the local emergency room about two months ago.

01:08:00.700 And when you have people who you have no background knowledge of them, you don't have no health

01:08:06.580 records.

01:08:07.180 This is from a country that's forcing people to wear masks and social distance.

01:08:11.500 And it's now talking about implementing that again with vaccinations.

01:08:15.220 And they let 8 million people come in and they bus them to communities like mine.

01:08:19.580 And then you go in the emergency room and what do you do with people who have no medical records?

01:08:24.680 As I was talking to some of the staff, they have no medical records.

01:08:28.660 They do not speak English.

01:08:30.320 Some of them don't speak Spanish.

01:08:32.040 They speak a mix of tech Baja dialect.

01:08:35.180 And then your grandmother is in, you know, kidney dialysis.

01:08:39.440 She has regular appointments.

01:08:40.680 Suddenly that swarm.

01:08:41.520 If I walk on my farm or I talk to country people, they see people that they have no idea who they are.

01:08:47.940 They're out shooting things.

01:08:49.560 They're out parked in your orchard injecting drugs or whatever.

01:08:54.620 But the point is, we let in, if we let in 8 million people and just 1% of them were criminal.

01:09:04.320 And I think there's more than that.

01:09:05.640 You're talking about 80,000 people that have no background checks.

01:09:08.860 And this was all fine and dandy for Joe Biden's world, you know, in his beach house or Hunter in Malibu or Nancy Pelosi in Napa Valley or Dianne Stein on Lake Tahoe shores where Biden is now staying with Tom Steyer.

01:09:23.360 But it was okay.

01:09:24.620 It was fine for them.

01:09:26.020 But who cared about Bakersfield or Fresno or Modesto?

01:09:30.120 That was just those people.

01:09:31.380 And they had to deal with it.

01:09:32.580 And they were racist if they objected.

01:09:34.320 And so finally people got smart and said, you know, the whole key to the liberal project is that the architects are never subject to the consequences of their own politics or ideology.

01:09:44.260 And now we're going to make them subject to that.

01:09:47.000 And once they feel what they're doing to other people, they squeal.

01:09:51.360 And that's the only thing they understand.

01:09:53.280 It's really kind of Neanderthal tactic. 0.78

01:09:55.220 But they're Neanderthals and that's what they that's what gets their attention. 0.89

01:09:59.740 I mean, California is finding out the hard way the consequences of these bizarre policies.

01:10:04.600 New York, too.

01:10:05.120 But on the subject of California, not only are we seeing the influx of these illegal migrants and the, you know, second guessing about the sanctuary city status of places like L.A., you know, no sooner do they vote for it than they realize it's a mistake.

01:10:18.960 But you've got the crime.

01:10:20.800 You've got the soft on crime prosecutors in places like L.A. and Oakland and elsewhere.

01:10:25.200 And now we're seeing the smash and grabs increase where they are in USA Today just a couple days ago.

01:10:32.860 They're reporting on how flash mob robberies are all over Los Angeles right now.

01:10:38.140 1230 in the afternoon last Thursday, nine mass suspects ransacked a fragrance counter at Macy's right in the middle of the day in the Sherman Oaks neighborhood.

01:10:49.440 People are just standing by and watching this happen.

01:10:51.400 This this happens right after four other incidents at a Nordstrom just 12 miles away.

01:10:58.440 On August 12th, you had 30 people entering Nordstrom at four o'clock again in the middle of the day, stealing high end handbags, clothing and other easily resold items over $300,000 stolen.

01:11:09.340 August 8th, at least 30 suspects flooded a Yves Saint Laurent store in Glendale, stealing clothing, other merchandise worth approximately $300,000 before fleeing on foot.

01:11:24.200 And then another targeted a Macy's store in Arcadia.

01:11:27.760 Perfumes were stolen.

01:11:29.620 I mean, it's anarchy, Victor.

01:11:32.760 It is.

01:11:34.380 It is.

01:11:35.020 And notice what you said.

01:11:37.080 They're not stealing food staples, of course.

01:11:40.340 And we're told that they have a need, but they don't.

01:11:42.720 They want the most high priced items and they feel there's no deterrence.

01:11:48.400 And if you were to arrest them, it would be some type of illiberal crime, racism or something.

01:11:54.000 And then what's even stranger about it, it affects everybody.

01:11:59.420 When you go to a California drugstore now, it looks like a prison infirmary, Megan.

01:12:03.500 You have this screen, like a metal grate.

01:12:06.840 It used to be just antihistamines.

01:12:08.820 It's everything from razor blades to toothbrushes.

01:12:11.960 And then when you go to get a new car in California, they give you the price on the sticker, but then they add $2,000 to $2,800.

01:12:22.580 And that's for LoJack or some type of thing that they've had to install on their cars in the car lot because people are going into the car lot, stealing the catalytic converters, taking the car without consequences.

01:12:34.320 So the dealers then put all of these anti-theft devices and they pass it on to the consumer.

01:12:39.440 You have no choice.

01:12:40.060 You have to pay that fee.

01:12:42.140 And so it affects everybody in California.

01:12:45.600 And now where car insurance is going up, home insurance is going up, it really is rippling through and destroying the state.

01:12:53.560 And what's the final irony is in San Francisco, particularly the smash and grab and the carjacking statistically, to the degree they'll release information, tends to be a lot overrepresented as young black males.

01:13:11.860 And they represent the black community in California is about 3% of the population.

01:13:16.820 They probably represent 1% of the entire demographic.

01:13:20.920 And they may be, at least FBI crime statistics, suggest they may be responsible for 50% of the violent crime.

01:13:27.920 I only mention that because we're also witnessing simultaneously in San Francisco this reparations committee that is demanding from a state that was never a slave state, never had Jim Crow, 1 million plus dollars from all California taxpayers facing almost a $45 billion deficit, it looks like.

01:13:49.160 And yet there's no leadership among, I don't like the idea of a collective community that we're all black or all white or Latino.

01:13:56.680 But if you go down that path, and you say, we're all black, and we all need something, then you've taken by your own volition, the reins of leadership collectively.

01:14:05.440 So then you should at least say, and if I'm going to represent this community, then I'm going to talk about the inordinate demographic that's committing violence against other communities and itself. 0.97

01:14:17.720 But they have nothing.

01:14:18.960 They don't say a word about that.

01:14:20.680 That's right.

01:14:21.100 And that's what's driving people really angry in California.

01:14:24.380 And this is well aside from the idea that we have 13.3 income tax, highest in the nation, some of the highest sales taxes, our property assessments are so high, we have, I think we're number six in property taxes, highest gas tax, and what do we get?

01:14:40.200 45th in school test scores, 48th in infrastructure.

01:14:44.580 We're blowing up four dams on the Klamath River, and we're going to lose clean hydroelectric power for 80,000 residents, recreation, flood control, drought insurance.

01:14:55.520 We're blowing them up because we feel indigenous people should try to reinduce salmon in a state that has no water, basically storage for 40 million people. 1.00

01:15:04.440 So if you could, I don't think they could do a better job if somebody started out and said, I want to destroy California, and I need to do it in five years, what would I do?

01:15:14.280 And what you would do is the last few years of Jerry Brown and the first years of the Gavin Newsom governorships.

01:15:21.440 Yeah. Well, I've got to end on this. Speaking of anarchy and people being fed up, finally, we're seeing some pushback, both by the citizenry and by law enforcement, to these environmental nutcases who continue to disrupt, whether it's an art show or a beautiful museum spilling God knows what over beautiful art, to stopping traffic.

01:15:44.380 A couple of examples that just happened to happen within the same few days. First, Burning Man out in Nevada, this group of environmentalists lined up along the road to get there.

01:15:57.520 They threw their, they had their signs, they had their bodies, they wouldn't let any cars get through. 150 cars at least lined up, and the Nevada Rangers got there and said, it's a no.

01:16:08.880 So they just, no one got hurt. Now the environmentalist, I'm shocked. Can't believe what I saw. This is horrifying. We're just trying to protect Mother Earth. But you know what? F.A. and F.O., as they say, the Rangers got there and said, yeah, you got to move on.

01:16:28.140 And as these people are chanting, abolish capitalism. And guess what happened? The traffic picked right up.

01:16:34.360 Then in Washington, D.C., similar situation where people are trying to go to work or come home from, get to their kids.

01:16:43.260 And the furious commuters got stopped by environmentalist activists and had a few things to say to them as they tried to stop them from going to their jobs. Listen to this.

01:16:54.680 I want to walk. I want to walk. I want to go to walk.

01:17:00.900 Put on a trophy. I want to go to walk.

01:17:04.620 I want to go to walk.

01:17:06.600 I got feet to be.

01:17:08.620 Get out of here. 1.00

01:17:10.460 You don't give a f***. 1.00

01:17:12.120 You don't give a f***. 1.00

01:17:15.080 You got to f***. 1.00

01:17:16.880 Get the f*** out of here. 1.00

01:17:18.900 We got to go to f*** work. 1.00

01:17:21.800 We got to go to f***. 1.00

01:17:23.580 I got kids to be, b***h. 1.00

01:17:27.900 Yes. 0.97

01:17:28.300 We got kids to be.

01:17:29.580 I ain't fine, man. 0.99

01:17:30.180 What the f*** are you doing? 0.99

01:17:30.940 Tell them, sister. 0.99

01:17:31.900 I ain't doing f*** nothing.

01:17:33.060 That's how we all feel.

01:17:34.780 Most of us do work.

01:17:35.840 Yes.

01:17:36.300 And we don't sit in the middle of roads trying to cause chaos for the people who are productive.

01:17:40.640 Very wealthy elite liberals warring on the middle class and marginalized communities.

01:17:45.480 That's what it's all about.

01:17:46.680 And those clips, all these wealthy, spoiled brat environmental protesters that don't have 0.93

01:17:52.680 to work every day.

01:17:54.240 And then finally, we get a revolt of working class people. 0.77

01:17:56.760 And the left is always on the side of the elite now.

01:17:59.520 It's very ironic.

01:18:00.960 Isn't it wonderful?

01:18:01.740 I feel empowered.

01:18:02.620 We ended on an empowered deal.

01:18:03.220 I do, too.

01:18:03.800 I think it's going to increase, too.

01:18:05.580 Good.

01:18:06.280 You know?

01:18:06.820 Good.

01:18:07.340 Between the private citizens just getting up and saying, no, move along. 0.99

01:18:11.460 You know, we're the ones who pay for everything, unlike you losers. 0.90

01:18:16.340 Yeah, I'm going to try to write a sequel to that dying citizen, the alive citizen, the 0.95

01:18:20.680 breathing citizen.

01:18:21.620 Yes, yes.

01:18:22.060 Because maybe they're coming back.

01:18:24.100 Resuscitated.

01:18:24.940 Do it.

01:18:26.040 Yes.

01:18:26.220 Mr. Davis Hanson, always a pleasure.

01:18:27.780 Thank you so much for being here.

01:18:29.500 Thank you for having me, Megan.

01:18:30.860 And when we come back, Alexa and Carlos Penovega are back.

01:18:35.620 Big hit with the audience last time, and I'm sure they will be again.

01:18:38.940 Stand by.

01:18:41.460 Joining us now, two names with which you may be very familiar.

01:18:46.720 Alexa and Carlos Penovega join me back on episode 357 in July of last year.

01:18:53.080 Carlos is best known as a member of the band Big Time Rush and star of the Nickelodeon hit

01:18:58.320 series of the same name.

01:18:59.920 Alexa has been an actress since the age of five and got her big break as the star of the

01:19:04.640 Spy Kids films.

01:19:06.540 Despite a life in Hollywood, they managed to keep faith at the center of their lives.

01:19:10.300 And their new book is Love is the Point.

01:19:14.240 Love is the Point.

01:19:15.980 100 days of God's love for you and how to share it with those around you.

01:19:20.440 It's a 100 day challenge to help everyone.

01:19:23.740 Welcome back to the show, Alexa and Carlos.

01:19:26.340 Great to have you.

01:19:27.240 Hey, hey, hey.

01:19:28.160 Thank you for having us back.

01:19:29.180 Thank you.

01:19:29.400 Oh, my pleasure.

01:19:30.680 I love this idea.

01:19:31.860 Every time, you know, this time of year, you always get the 100 days to a fitter, skinnier

01:19:36.740 you.

01:19:37.520 This is something that actually is nurturing the whole you, reminding people not just of

01:19:42.940 the importance of faith, but also connection in one's marriage, with one's friends, with

01:19:47.500 one's community.

01:19:48.420 The values of forgiveness, all this stuff that you guys live every day.

01:19:52.540 So what was your inspo for this?

01:19:55.580 Wow.

01:19:56.140 Well, I think for us, what we're seeing in the world is how self-focused everyone is.

01:20:01.960 And while some of that is important, obviously, making sure that you're, you know, living the

01:20:06.480 best that you can.

01:20:07.320 But we're so self-focused and we've stopped serving.

01:20:11.120 And I feel like the point of all of us being on this earth is to work together, to communicate

01:20:16.280 with each other, to be a community.

01:20:19.040 So we just really wanted to show people that serving each other doesn't just mean like

01:20:23.220 sending money to people when they're in need, but it's actually showing up for them and

01:20:28.120 being there for them and not just for people you know, but for complete strangers.

01:20:32.260 So we just really wanted to challenge people and give them unique ways, biblical ways to

01:20:36.980 serve each other.

01:20:37.980 Well said, Dave.

01:20:39.220 Come on.

01:20:40.560 This is why I love you, because you're the opposite, forgive me, of Kim Kardashian.

01:20:44.740 You're the opposite.

01:20:45.680 We just did a story about her going with her glam team to the DMV because her picture had 0.99

01:20:50.500 to be absolutely perfect and well lit.

01:20:53.360 You're the opposite of that.

01:20:54.880 People need to get back to service of others.

01:20:57.780 It's not all about you, yourself, how you look, your vanity.

01:21:02.640 Yeah.

01:21:03.020 Yeah.

01:21:03.540 Look, we all want to look good.

01:21:05.080 Let's be real.

01:21:05.580 It feels good when you look good.

01:21:06.780 However, I think when you're so self-focused, that's a lot of times why people fall into

01:21:12.120 depression.

01:21:13.280 We have a close friend, Andrew, which we talk about a lot in this book and in our last

01:21:17.380 book.

01:21:18.100 And he used to be really, really depressed.

01:21:20.220 And one of the things that he said to us was when I stopped being self-focused and really

01:21:23.440 focused on just serving other people, my life became purposeful.

01:21:27.520 I actually had meaning.

01:21:29.500 That's because you're not looking in so much.

01:21:32.100 You're just like, I'm just going to serve.

01:21:33.380 I'm going to God.

01:21:34.280 God, just use me how you want.

01:21:35.940 You guys have been thinking about this, I'm sure, lately because you split your time right

01:21:40.380 between Florida and Maui, if I remember.

01:21:43.620 And I mean, obviously, Maui's been suffering mightily over the past month.

01:21:47.200 I mean, how has that affected you guys?

01:21:49.900 Man.

01:21:50.180 Well, we actually live in Lahaina.

01:21:53.320 Our house was thankfully spared, but we went like two or three days after the fire.

01:21:58.560 I had just finished tour and Alexa and I left the kids with a friend and we raced to check

01:22:05.240 everything out and see.

01:22:06.440 And it's wild because we always see these things happen on the news or on social media

01:22:11.060 and we're on the outside of it.

01:22:12.520 Right.

01:22:12.640 We're just watching it.

01:22:13.340 We're like, wow, this is crazy.

01:22:14.220 Oh my gosh, look at this, you know, Twitter post, whatever it is, or X.

01:22:17.920 And this time, you know, it really hit home to go there and all the places that we fell

01:22:25.460 in love with Maui for, you know, that they're just gone.

01:22:28.560 And a lot of our friends lost their homes.

01:22:31.520 A lot of their...

01:22:32.600 This was our community.

01:22:33.580 Yeah.

01:22:33.760 You know, we live in Lahaina.

01:22:35.120 And I think the craziest part is, you know, having our kids ask us about certain places

01:22:40.680 and it just no longer being there.

01:22:43.620 And again, seeing it in person, it's horrific.

01:22:46.560 I know there are some people kind of covering it, but no one's even coming close to what's

01:22:52.340 actually happening there.

01:22:53.400 Oh no.

01:22:54.220 I mean, they're talking about, you know, potentially hundreds of children gone.

01:23:00.860 Yeah.

01:23:01.040 Yeah.

01:23:01.300 The answer is yeah.

01:23:02.520 And they're keeping it hush hush.

01:23:04.840 And it's so disappointing.

01:23:06.220 Oh my gosh.

01:23:07.200 Can I ask you, I don't want you to get political, but I do wonder what your reaction was to seeing

01:23:12.340 the president's remarks when he was out there.

01:23:15.020 I think it was the same as everybody's.

01:23:17.140 It was disgusted, really beyond disappointed.

01:23:22.260 Not shocking, but beyond disappointed.

01:23:25.840 Yeah.

01:23:26.040 I mean, you have to remember like these people, Lahaina is a historic town.

01:23:32.120 So you have generations after generations after generations of people who've lived there.

01:23:36.440 So some of our friends inherited this house from their dads, dads, dads, dads, dads.

01:23:41.900 So it's like, you know, like their heart, their soul, their history is in this town.

01:23:47.920 So to come and just brush it off like it's, oh, you know, it's like another house fire.

01:23:53.620 You know, it's like, no, man, this, this is their life.

01:23:55.980 It's like, it's like if your life just caught on fire and just went away.

01:24:00.240 So you guys are safe now, right?

01:24:02.160 You're in Florida now.

01:24:03.080 But of course, now we're looking at another natural disaster hitting Florida, but it's

01:24:06.780 on, no, it's nowhere near you.

01:24:09.200 No, yeah, we're on the outskirts.

01:24:10.800 It's on the Gulf and we're okay.

01:24:13.260 And then the friends that we have on that side, they're, they're out of Dodge as well.

01:24:16.420 But, um, no, it's just, it's definitely been a crazy few weeks, but all the more reason

01:24:21.840 that if anything, we're just like, man, we just got to serve because community is so

01:24:26.580 important.

01:24:26.960 And to go back to Lahaina, watching the community who has literally been stripped of everything

01:24:32.660 still show up for one another, still serve each other to come from all different walks

01:24:37.920 of life and really just be put in the same position and just be like, you know what, I'm

01:24:43.560 just going to show up however I can.

01:24:45.060 Like it has been beautiful to watch.

01:24:48.160 Absolutely heartbreaking.

01:24:49.680 But in, in a way, like I wish more people could really see that firsthand because I think

01:24:54.780 it would really change the way people live their lives.

01:24:56.700 Yeah.

01:24:56.840 I mean, it, it got to a place where they were like, we don't need more supplies right now.

01:25:00.740 Like, please stop.

01:25:01.720 I've never, I've never seen that in, in, in any type of disaster like that, where it's

01:25:06.420 like, please, we were good for the moment, like take a break.

01:25:09.640 But that's, that's how the people of Maui are just kind of all, yeah, no more supplies,

01:25:13.820 but they definitely are going to need help rebuilding and getting their lives in order.

01:25:17.200 And listen, just a little, a little, a little plug for something that we got working, uh,

01:25:21.860 you know, going right now.

01:25:23.200 So Alexa and I have been trying to figure out how to help the people of Maui.

01:25:26.780 So many people contacting us.

01:25:28.360 Um, and again, it's not about us.

01:25:29.640 It's all about them.

01:25:30.260 So we set up a website, uh, it's called love is the point.org.

01:25:33.880 And we just, we're literally going, uh, with a people on the ground and they're verifying

01:25:39.140 all of these families who have different GoFundMe's and Venmo's, uh, and we're, you know,

01:25:43.300 putting their story and you can literally just scroll and it's just, it just keeps on going

01:25:46.960 and going.

01:25:47.520 So if you're curious, like what these families are going through, love is the point.org.

01:25:51.040 And you can literally help them directly with, you know, Venmo or GoFundMe.

01:25:55.180 And then we also have a nonprofit on there that is literally just going directly to all

01:26:00.800 these people.

01:26:01.480 So if you want to make a big contribution, I want the tax benefits, you could totally do

01:26:05.320 that.

01:26:05.520 But literally our whole goal is how do we serve these people?

01:26:08.660 You know, they lost everything.

01:26:11.000 And, you know, one thing that I'm trying to get is, is cars for a lot of these people

01:26:15.920 because they don't have a way to get around the island.

01:26:18.120 So I'm like, man, how do we, how do we get some money so we can get them nothing fancy,

01:26:22.100 but just, just so they can get from one side of the island to the other.

01:26:25.360 Cause hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of cars got, you know, burnt up and destroyed.

01:26:29.400 You know, so you guys are about servicing others and helping others think about that.

01:26:34.200 Obviously we talked about the faith both last time.

01:26:36.640 And in the intro, I mentioned it.

01:26:38.060 I will say if God forbid something like this happened to any of us, the first place you'd

01:26:45.360 go is your faith.

01:26:46.000 I mean, that would be like to get you through it.

01:26:48.940 The loss of a child, my God, you know, your home, all your possessions, the things you,

01:26:53.660 you love and that you've built around your family to make your house a home, all those

01:26:58.100 things.

01:26:58.420 And it did, you know, recently we looked it up and it was, I think only 13%.

01:27:03.100 Is that what it is?

01:27:03.680 Only 13% of people are now attending religious services regularly or once a week.

01:27:09.520 God is being pushed out of the public sphere time and day after day after day.

01:27:13.500 The, the, all the emphasis is on removing faith from people's lives.

01:27:18.140 Right.

01:27:18.820 Just at the time when they need it most, right.

01:27:20.600 Given what's happening in our politics and our, in our world.

01:27:23.600 Well, I just think how much easier is a world to control if they don't have faith?

01:27:28.420 How much easier, how much easier is it to mold people if they don't have anything that's

01:27:35.060 giving them a solid foundation?

01:27:36.840 And so I just feel like, of course, media and people are going to be pushing no more

01:27:42.060 faith in schools or, or just taking faith that wherever they can taking it out because

01:27:47.520 people are just way more moldable without it.

01:27:51.340 Gosh, it's so true.

01:27:52.980 It's like I, when I sit in church on Sundays, I think about how they're giving me an assist

01:27:57.780 on imprinting the moral code.

01:27:59.160 I want to print it on my children.

01:28:00.380 Right.

01:28:00.760 It's like, you're not alone.

01:28:02.580 You, you got this other, you got an authority figure there at the front, uh, behind the pulpit,

01:28:07.160 reinforcing all the things ideally you've been saying at home.

01:28:10.000 And that's helpful.

01:28:10.940 It's helpful.

01:28:11.240 Like, I wish I had a teacher who was doing that too.

01:28:13.220 I guess if I went to Catholic school, yeah, it's that constant reminder, you know, one

01:28:16.580 thing that's really cool.

01:28:17.480 And, you know, people always say that you can learn from kids and we have, um, something

01:28:22.060 that we like to do is we just pray in front of them all the time.

01:28:25.020 That way they really understand, man, you can go to God for anything and for, you know,

01:28:30.620 just for whatever reason, I love it because I'll walk into the room and I'll hear my kids

01:28:35.620 just talking to God, whether they got a boo-boo or whether they're just asking him for, you

01:28:40.920 know, something even kind of silly, but I just love that they feel that connection to be able

01:28:45.540 to talk to him whenever they want.

01:28:47.740 And, you know, when all this stuff was going on with the fires, I had a moment where I was

01:28:52.160 just, you know, crying, sitting on the floor and crying and my sweet little Kingston, he's

01:28:56.560 only four.

01:28:57.040 He just came up and he goes, mommy, may I pray for you?

01:28:59.700 And he just started praying over me and this is my four-year-old.

01:29:02.680 So it's really beautiful and you really get to live it out as a family and they teach you

01:29:09.140 as much as you teach them.

01:29:10.340 And they are that constant reminder that God is right there.

01:29:13.720 I know, but what about, what's your advice, Carlos?

01:29:15.980 You know, there are some guys out there right now who they have not found their Alexa.

01:29:19.520 They feel lonely.

01:29:20.840 They don't have a family.

01:29:22.580 You know, and they're, they may be wondering how do they make this connection?

01:29:26.440 Love is the point.

01:29:27.260 How do they find this person?

01:29:28.580 Right.

01:29:29.400 I'm thinking of a friend of mine who watches the show a lot, who I know is not married and

01:29:33.380 might like to be, but feels alone a lot, feels lonely.

01:29:37.360 What, how does that person factor in love is the point into his life?

01:29:41.700 All right.

01:29:43.060 This is going to be terrible.

01:29:44.200 Alexa is going to look at me and go, what? 1.00

01:29:45.340 So I recently had a little binge of some really trashy, terrible TV on, on Netflix.

01:29:54.160 It's called too hot to handle.

01:29:55.820 I don't know how I got turned on to it, but I was like, I'm going to watch this.

01:29:58.560 And I was on tours.

01:30:00.240 I was just kind of binging it.

01:30:01.280 And it's all about these couples who are these, you know, single people who just crave that 0.99

01:30:06.460 sexual, you know, sexual desire.

01:30:08.840 Yeah.

01:30:09.020 And they, it's kind of hoping to kind of show them that there's way more than sex.

01:30:14.900 And I feel like when you are trying to court someone, which I hope people are still courting

01:30:21.020 people because it's, it's beautiful.

01:30:23.360 You, you really got to get to know them, like get to know their heart.

01:30:27.020 Not, I mean, this is amazing and you're beautiful and awesome.

01:30:30.280 But what I really, really love about her is her heart.

01:30:33.560 And I, and I think, I think we, we had so much time to just like, like she played really

01:30:38.900 hard to get.

01:30:39.620 So we had so much time of just like emotionally, really connecting emotionally and it changes

01:30:45.780 things for you.

01:30:46.680 So just take the time, take the time to actually like, to like learn who this person is, you 0.98

01:30:54.160 know, whether, whether it's just having a conversation and asking stupid questions, 0.95

01:30:58.480 like, you know, have you ever changed your favorite color? 0.99

01:31:01.820 Was it blue?

01:31:02.420 And now it's pink.

01:31:03.160 Why is it pink now?

01:31:04.240 You know, like find out those little quirky details.

01:31:07.180 Like love is in the details.

01:31:08.740 Oh, I love that.

01:31:10.360 When we first met, the biggest thing I felt like for you was you just, you gave up control.

01:31:15.360 You were like, you know what, God, I want you to use me.

01:31:18.500 I no longer, again, like, I don't want it to be about me.

01:31:21.060 I just want to serve.

01:31:22.360 And then it was literally that week that we met at Bible study.

01:31:25.820 And it was like that week that your entire life transformed.

01:31:29.060 I love that.

01:31:29.720 That love is in the details bit.

01:31:31.340 I literally was just saying the other day for the first time after 15 years of marriage,

01:31:36.340 17 years of my relationship with my husband, I noticed I like actually observed and, you

01:31:42.040 know, took note of his morning routine.

01:31:45.000 Guys, it is literally three things.

01:31:48.320 He brushes his teeth, he puts on deodorant, and he splashes water on his hair.

01:31:55.200 He doesn't have a brush.

01:31:56.460 Nothing.

01:31:56.980 That's it.

01:31:57.360 It's the three steps.

01:31:58.640 I'm sorry, Alexa, but this is clearly not a woman.

01:32:02.100 This is a man.

01:32:03.600 Yep.

01:32:03.780 It took me 17 years to notice.

01:32:07.100 But it is, the love is in the details.

01:32:09.140 It's true.

01:32:09.820 I respect.

01:32:10.560 A hundred percent.

01:32:11.060 A hundred percent.

01:32:11.940 It's so good.

01:32:12.720 Yeah.

01:32:13.500 All right.

01:32:13.940 So that reminds me of something I read, Alexa, you say, and in the time we have left, I'll

01:32:17.820 just go to the sex life question, where you were saying, and this is a very good point, 0.96

01:32:21.880 and as the mother of three Catholic kids, I wanted to ask you, Christian, Catholic, same

01:32:25.640 business, you were making the point that we raise these kids with like, well, sex, you

01:32:31.380 know, kind of the messaging can be it's bad, and then you get into a marriage, and suddenly

01:32:36.000 it's good, and you admitted that you wrestled with that in your own marriage, and I think

01:32:41.420 that's a great admission.

01:32:42.300 So how have you resolved that, and what's your advice for other parents who are trying

01:32:45.640 to message to their kids on this?

01:32:48.240 There is this incredible podcast called Heaven in Your Home.

01:32:53.240 It's by Francie Winslow.

01:32:54.180 And she went through the same struggles, and for me, it's understanding that marriage is

01:32:59.060 holy and sex is holy.

01:33:00.380 God made it for us to enjoy and to love and to cherish, and our bodies are beautiful, and

01:33:05.820 when I really understood that, I felt so much freedom, and that's something that I want to

01:33:11.520 instill in my kids in time, obviously, when the age is appropriate for them to understand

01:33:15.820 that this is a godly thing.

01:33:17.240 It's not something to be ashamed of.

01:33:19.280 It's hard, because you want to say, like, not yet, right?

01:33:23.200 You're little, once you grow up, and you fall in love, and then you want to sort of say,

01:33:28.080 and then get after it, but then that's inappropriate.

01:33:29.980 Everyone feels uncomfortable.

01:33:30.680 Right, right, right, right.

01:33:31.420 Right.

01:33:31.880 In the right setting, it is absolutely everything it's supposed to be, and that's why I always

01:33:36.620 tell people, I'm like, for friends who are in a relationship but not yet married, they're

01:33:41.540 like, we don't need to get married.

01:33:42.620 I'm like, you don't understand.

01:33:43.880 Once you get married, you unlock something so special that you didn't even realize that

01:33:49.300 you were missing.

01:33:50.020 Marriage is holy, and you will enter into, like, this beautiful spiritual place once

01:33:54.700 you do get married.

01:33:55.420 Yes, and that doesn't mean that every single act between you and the bedroom is necessarily

01:33:59.440 holy, but it's fine.

01:34:02.520 It's fine.

01:34:03.600 I got to go.

01:34:04.600 You guys are the best.

01:34:05.660 I want to remind people, the name of the book is Love is the Point, and they need to support

01:34:10.420 you.

01:34:11.520 The messaging is awesome.

01:34:12.900 What a 100-day program that we could all use.

01:34:15.460 Lots of love, you two.

01:34:17.880 Thank you.

01:34:18.500 Thank you so much.

01:34:19.580 I hope we do it again soon.

01:34:21.100 Okay.

01:34:21.740 And thanks to all of you for joining us today.

01:34:24.680 Steven Rinella is going to be here tomorrow.

01:34:26.760 Now, he's got some great advice for raising outdoor kids in an indoor world and toughening

01:34:32.740 your kids up in this crazy world that we're living in.

01:34:36.120 I'm looking forward.

01:34:36.620 I've never interviewed him, so I am looking forward to meeting him and continuing to

01:34:42.200 broadcast from SiriusXM headquarters.

01:34:44.680 I'm here today.

01:34:45.660 I'm here tomorrow getting ready for school, right?

01:34:48.760 You guys know, I had to come back from the beach because reality's coming.

01:34:52.160 Thankfully, our kids don't start until the day after Labor Day.

01:34:54.260 I know a lot of you have your kids back already, and that's rough, but you know how it is.

01:34:57.980 Got to get the pencil cases going, and I'm sure you're all going through it as well.

01:35:01.240 All right.

01:35:01.540 In the meantime, see you tomorrow.

01:35:05.560 Thanks for listening to The Megyn Kelly Show. 0.94

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The Megyn Kelly Show - August 29, 2023

Biden's Incoherence and Corruption, and Leaning on Faith, with Victor Davis Hanson and Alexa and Carlos PenaVega ｜ Ep. 617

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