The Megyn Kelly Show - Biden Won't Acknowledge His 7th Grandchild, and White House Cocaine, with Amala Ekpunobi and Evita Duffy-Alfonso ｜ Ep. 581

00:00:00.500 Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.

00:00:11.660 Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.

00:00:15.040 It's great to be back, and I hope you all had an amazing July 4th holiday.

00:00:20.000 I loved every minute of it, every minute of it, and I especially enjoyed watching the insane hard left cry their tears

00:00:27.800 about their hatred of our country. I actually did enjoy it.

00:00:32.280 People like Cori Bush, who cannot stand America and wanted to make the day about reparations,

00:00:37.640 specifically she thinks, well, about $14 trillion should be a good starting point,

00:00:42.060 but technically we owe something like $90 trillion to those that we've aggrieved.

00:00:47.260 We, those of us who are alive and well here in 2022, as opposed to a couple hundred years ago.

00:00:55.240 Like the two guys behind Ben and Jerry's.

00:00:57.800 By the way, they sold their company a few years ago for over $300 million, but they're still pissed off.

00:01:01.760 They still hate America.

00:01:03.140 They think it should be a day of atonement toward the Native Americans.

00:01:06.820 How about no? How about no? It's not going to be.

00:01:10.860 I love how these people are their own worst enemies, making their own lives miserable, right?

00:01:17.000 Instead of enjoying a beautiful day like that with a barbecue and the parade and being with the children

00:01:22.740 and the sparklers and the fireworks, choosing instead always to see the darkness,

00:01:28.760 always to mire themselves in hate and grievance.

00:01:32.900 Those of us living patriotic, happy, loving lives need not worry too much about these people.

00:01:38.960 They're depressed.

00:01:39.640 They're rageful to a degree well beyond what any of us could ever hope to cause.

00:01:43.980 Good luck to them in their aggrieved, frustrated, invariably lackluster lives.

00:01:50.520 Just know that the rest of us are having a great time and we will not be doing any of the insane things you demand.

00:01:55.520 There will be no day of atonement.

00:01:57.020 Sorry, not really.

00:01:58.340 Here at the Kelly Brunt House on the Jersey Shore, it was a great day of celebration.

00:02:05.880 I hope it was for you too.

00:02:07.300 We went big has become our tradition and I had several moments yesterday.

00:02:12.500 I surprised myself with this where my eyes actually filled with tears and I actually kind of had to, you know, get a hold over myself.

00:02:19.660 I was feeling emotional just about our country, about the incredible honor it is to be an American, how we were founded, what we stand for, what we still stand for.

00:02:31.320 We've been hosting these big parties for a few years now, but only for the past two years have we been dressing in colonial costumes and really leaning into the whole founding fathers theme.

00:02:43.180 So if you watch that, if you're listening to this now, that's great.

00:02:45.320 But go to youtube.com slash Megan Kelly later to see these pictures because they're awesome.

00:02:50.020 Now, getting ready for the party is always so much fun.

00:02:52.880 Over 100 people come, but about 20 of our friends and family actually dress up and they read or act in our little preamble of a play before we read the declaration.

00:03:02.560 Our friends come over to our house.

00:03:04.360 They try on costumes, wigs.

00:03:07.560 I get it all.

00:03:08.620 We have a costume party at the end of the year often.

00:03:10.280 But this one I and people get their own costumes for this one.

00:03:13.500 I get the costumes because it's a lot to actually ask of people to deal.

00:03:18.100 And I have a great, great costume shop that I go to.

00:03:22.200 Doug and the kids, they dress up.

00:03:24.700 Doug accommodates me, tries on the outfits.

00:03:27.120 We make sure they fit just right.

00:03:28.500 And we laugh.

00:03:29.340 We play patriotic music while people are trying on the costumes.

00:03:32.060 And we just have a good time.

00:03:34.440 Among those who participated this year and last are Allison and Tom Barkledge.

00:03:38.920 You guys may remember them.

00:03:40.420 We brought you the story in the fall about their son, Blake Barkledge, who died at age 17 suddenly of myocarditis, of a heart related issue.

00:03:51.280 And they don't know why.

00:03:55.060 There was speculation.

00:03:56.040 Was it COVID?

00:03:56.740 Was it the vaccine?

00:03:57.520 They still don't know exactly what caused the myocarditis.

00:04:00.400 But the family, including their daughter, Lexi, has been an example to us all on how to heal after trauma.

00:04:07.280 You can go back and check that episode.

00:04:08.640 We'll get you the number.

00:04:09.620 But they came and if they can find a way to smile, you know, through a time like this, it's only been a year plus since they lost their son.

00:04:18.000 So can you.

00:04:18.740 You can find a reason to celebrate our country, our friends, our family, the way we live.

00:04:23.540 We're we're so, so lucky to have been born here, to have the opportunities we have here.

00:04:28.940 They're not perfect.

00:04:29.900 We're not perfect.

00:04:30.600 The country's not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than you're going to find any place else.

00:04:34.960 So the day and the prep is festive and it gets you in the mood to celebrate America with your friends and your family.

00:04:39.720 Your love of country in your heart.

00:04:41.540 So on the big day, people arrive.

00:04:43.240 We kick things off with the pledge.

00:04:45.400 That's always nice to say the pledge.

00:04:47.220 My little guy still says it in his elementary school, and I really appreciate that.

00:04:50.300 I used to say it every day growing up in school that we used to have to sing my country tis of thee.

00:04:55.000 And over time sort of sinks in what those words mean.

00:04:58.700 And then we do this little play, as I said, about how the American rebellion got started all those years ago.

00:05:03.780 What led to the decision to declare our independence?

00:05:07.760 The unrest in the 13 colonies.

00:05:10.820 The anger over how unfairly the king was treating his subjects here.

00:05:16.060 Doug and I write this.

00:05:17.540 We put it together and then we rewrite it year to year with the help of family and friends who add new scenes or what have you.

00:05:22.640 But the point is just to remind people of why the USA came into existence.

00:05:27.140 And not just the littles.

00:05:28.400 You know, they don't teach us stuff in school anymore.

00:05:29.700 We want the littles, including our own children, to hear it.

00:05:32.480 I was saying to a friend yesterday, it's like teaching manners to a child.

00:05:35.980 You just got to do it over and over and over and over and over.

00:05:37.840 And eventually, hopefully it sinks in.

00:05:39.620 And that's how we feel about this.

00:05:41.940 Hopefully these kids and others, you know, adults, too, who hear it over and over and over,

00:05:45.840 will come to remember it and internalize it in a way that is important.

00:05:49.400 We write in the play scenes that sort of show what we were trying to avoid in forming our own union,

00:05:58.940 a government that was overreaching, that disrespected the rights of its citizens,

00:06:03.440 that interfered with the judiciary, that denied the public important rights like a trial by jury.

00:06:09.640 And what the vision was for how things could be.

00:06:12.760 In our little play, we had Thomas Paine there, who wrote Common Sense and Inspo for the Declaration.

00:06:20.000 We had Paul Revere.

00:06:21.580 Doug played Thomas Jefferson.

00:06:23.260 And with our friend Andrew, as John Adams enacted a little scene.

00:06:29.080 Five of us got together and drafted a statement of principles.

00:06:32.580 John Adams, Robert Livingston, Ben Franklin, Roger Sherman, and I, Thomas Jefferson.

00:06:37.680 When they asked me to write what we were referring to as the Declaration of Independence,

00:06:41.320 my first thought was that John Adams would be a much better choice.

00:06:46.120 John, I said, will you do it?

00:06:49.700 I will not.

00:06:52.120 Why not?

00:06:54.920 Because I am obnoxious, also suspected, and very unpopular.

00:07:02.600 Then came the reading of the Declaration, which really is an inspirational document,

00:07:08.140 one of the most revered in human history.

00:07:10.420 If you didn't take the time yesterday to read it, go do it.

00:07:13.820 I encourage you to go do it today.

00:07:15.480 It's not that long.

00:07:16.920 And it really will make you understand what people were upset about and honestly are getting

00:07:23.540 upset about to this day in some ways.

00:07:27.020 It is an honest acknowledgement of how man's default tends to be to put up with hard things

00:07:31.840 until they get so bad he cannot.

00:07:33.980 An acknowledgement that God, not government, has granted us certain unalienable rights like life,

00:07:43.760 liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:07:46.600 That writes, quote, that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,

00:07:52.680 deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.

00:07:56.800 We hold these truths to be self-evident.

00:08:00.200 That all men are created equal.

00:08:03.420 That they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

00:08:09.440 That among these there are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

00:08:14.160 That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, 0.89

00:08:18.140 deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.

00:08:21.840 Exactly right.

00:08:25.720 When we finished the reading, I should point out that among those who read and were our

00:08:32.720 honored guests were two guys you may know very well.

00:08:36.900 Rich Lowry and Michael Brendan Doherty of National Review came.

00:08:40.860 We invited Charles C.W. Cook, too, but he's busy on his golf cart down in Florida where he

00:08:44.480 loves his little parade.

00:08:45.680 Here are the three of us all dressed up and ready to go.

00:08:48.420 Those guys were amazing.

00:08:49.380 They kicked it off and ended the reading of the Declaration, respectively, and did a great

00:08:54.160 job.

00:08:54.580 It was super fun to have them here and to meet their families.

00:08:58.460 And after we finished the reading, we broke right into America.

00:09:03.400 The beautiful, as as I told you, we did the other day in church.

00:09:07.860 That was that was my inspiration for that moment.

00:09:10.520 And it was so great to look out at all the friends and family and hear them singing.

00:09:15.140 Here's just a little bit of that.

00:09:19.380 The beautiful, for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain, for purple mountains' majesty,

00:09:34.220 above all the fruit of the plains.

00:09:38.000 America, America, God shed his rights on me, and crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea

00:09:54.460 to shining sea.

00:09:57.020 See, you don't have to be a good singer or be perfect on the words.

00:10:05.280 You just have to have your heart in the right place.

00:10:07.400 And ours were.

00:10:09.320 I want to tell you what happened next and a side story that I hope you will appreciate.

00:10:14.220 I told the audience, the guests, their friends, our family, that we had a surprise plan and

00:10:18.720 it go out to the front.

00:10:20.920 And people didn't know what to expect.

00:10:22.500 And what happened next was something that I've been working on with Abby for six months.

00:10:28.640 So six months ago, I said to Abby, Abs, I want a marching band at the 4th of July party.

00:10:35.420 And she said, MK, OK, but that's that's that's going to take a lot.

00:10:39.820 That's going to be a big order.

00:10:41.100 And I said, we can do this now.

00:10:42.840 It wasn't going to be cheap.

00:10:43.720 And I knew that.

00:10:44.340 And honestly, you know, I make a good living, as you've probably seen in the paper, but

00:10:49.200 I don't buy diamond tennis bracelets.

00:10:52.440 I don't buy jewels.

00:10:53.760 I don't buy fancy cars.

00:10:55.680 I don't like this shop.

00:10:57.440 It's just not me.

00:10:58.260 I don't have a closet full of Jimmy Choo's. 0.98

00:11:01.140 I have a couple.

00:11:02.460 This is not how I choose to spend my money.

00:11:05.080 Most of my money we save.

00:11:08.280 But when something like this comes up, an idea like this, this is where I want to spend.

00:11:12.480 This is what the money's for, right?

00:11:14.160 Like a moment like this, that that we can have as a community and share together and

00:11:20.620 that will bring up stirring feelings of patriotism, of love, of joy, of just I don't know how

00:11:29.880 to say it other than just a deep connection to your country and your fellow man.

00:11:36.800 And I don't regret one penny of what it took.

00:11:39.720 So a couple of months went by and I said, Abs, how's it going?

00:11:45.660 She said, MK, it can't be done.

00:11:48.360 You know, there's no marching bands like available for hire and like college bands have gone home

00:11:54.460 by that time of the summer.

00:11:56.240 You know, they're not still together.

00:11:58.300 And Abby never says, MK, it can't be done to me.

00:12:01.440 I mean, like it's very, very rare.

00:12:03.260 You know, I put my hand on her shoulder and I said, Abby, I know you can do this.

00:12:07.040 And because you got to know Abby, she she will bust through brick walls to make things 1.00

00:12:13.460 happen if she knows they're really, truly important to me.

00:12:16.760 And before I knew it, she had assembled a band.

00:12:21.260 It was a band.

00:12:22.360 I won't say what school they're from because they're not like they're not supposed to have

00:12:25.540 the school endorsement.

00:12:26.320 And they didn't have a school endorsement, but they're available, available for this

00:12:29.380 kind of thing because they couldn't wear their school uniforms.

00:12:32.280 So then we had to find them uniforms.

00:12:34.300 So Abby found uniforms that I and we chose very patriotic uniforms, red, white and blue.

00:12:40.360 And the amount of logistics she had to go through to make this happen.

00:12:43.660 She got him a bus.

00:12:44.620 They bust here.

00:12:45.360 They went to the firehouse.

00:12:46.400 They changed into their patriotic outfits.

00:12:48.820 We got them food and pizza and drinks and so on.

00:12:51.420 We got them on the bus.

00:12:52.140 They were on standby.

00:12:53.140 They were waiting for the cue until we finished God Bless America.

00:12:56.400 They cued the band.

00:12:57.700 You heard the sounds of the drum beats as they marched toward our party.

00:13:04.680 And the crowd was just slack jawed watching this performance.

00:13:10.300 They did a great job.

00:13:13.020 They had to learn all these patriotic songs.

00:13:15.060 They were playing off of sheet music that they had, you know, sort of on their instruments.

00:13:19.540 And they nailed it.

00:13:22.660 They nailed it.

00:13:23.480 Hats off to these young college kids who just made our hearts sing yesterday.

00:13:29.380 I could not have been more impressed, more grateful.

00:13:32.080 And I have to tell you, Abigail Finan is a star.

00:13:36.420 I just love her.

00:13:37.920 You know, she's my assistant, but she's also like my little sister.

00:13:41.040 She's the CEO of my life.

00:13:43.320 Maybe she's the COO of my life.

00:13:45.000 And it's just an opportunity to stop and say thank you to the people who support me and

00:13:49.960 help make things like this possible and help me bring these memories to you and hopefully

00:13:53.740 inspire you to take a moment to think about your life and your connection with our country

00:13:58.120 and what it means to you.

00:13:59.740 Right.

00:14:00.500 This whole thing turned into a connection with friends, with neighbors, with loved ones,

00:14:04.700 a chance to think about America, our history here, what it means to us.

00:14:08.300 And I come into this day with you renewed, happy, more settled and more certain in my

00:14:18.440 own love of country and my gratitude for having been born here and living right now in an important

00:14:26.240 time with all of you.

00:14:27.840 Right.

00:14:28.400 We go through it all together.

00:14:29.720 When I sat there, I listened to that band playing the national anthem, among other songs.

00:14:34.800 I was thinking about how you, the audience on this show, my team on this show, and I are

00:14:42.980 out there every day on the front lines fighting for this country.

00:14:47.000 That's really what we're doing.

00:14:48.760 It's not just news.

00:14:51.080 What we're doing together, why you tune in, you listen, you take time out of your busy

00:14:54.660 days to listen and connect with me and the guests here is because you care to you care.

00:14:59.080 Otherwise, there's a million other things you could be doing.

00:15:02.080 Right.

00:15:02.540 We're all out there fighting for the heart of our country and what we stand for, what we

00:15:06.160 believe in.

00:15:07.220 So I am grateful to you, too.

00:15:10.100 And I think it's an important mission we're all on.

00:15:14.280 So on that note, it is a packed news day and we're going to take a deep dive into many

00:15:20.300 subjects, including where the Hunter Biden investigation stands.

00:15:24.240 And I don't mean the cocaine found at the White House or do I do I?

00:15:27.480 We'll get into that, too.

00:15:29.660 Plus, what does it say that President Joe Biden, as he lectures us about the importance

00:15:34.020 of fatherhood, continues to refuse to acknowledge he has a seventh grandchild?

00:15:39.800 Even The New York Times is taking notice.

00:15:41.620 And now this is becoming a campaign issue.

00:15:44.420 We'll get into it all.

00:15:45.800 And we are excited to have Amala Epanobi, host of Unapologetic Live, and Federalist writer

00:15:53.580 Evita Duffy Alfonso back with us.

00:15:56.520 Amala, Evita, thank you so much for being here.

00:15:59.580 Thank you.

00:16:00.340 Good to be back.

00:16:01.600 How was your fourth?

00:16:03.680 It was great.

00:16:06.180 Mine was very uneventful.

00:16:07.600 I sat in the window of my apartment just watching people put on their fireworks and eating ice

00:16:12.680 cream.

00:16:13.020 But I had a good time.

00:16:14.280 Yeah.

00:16:14.920 Nowhere near as much as yours.

00:16:16.720 Well, we went big, but you don't have to go big.

00:16:18.900 You know, that's the beauty of the holiday.

00:16:20.020 I was talking to my my friend Kat when I'm down here at the shore.

00:16:24.160 She does my hair.

00:16:24.800 And she was saying, you know, she's hung out with her family.

00:16:27.520 They watch the fireworks.

00:16:28.680 They've spent some time together, you know, had some ice cream.

00:16:32.140 Perfect.

00:16:32.860 That's perfect, too.

00:16:33.860 You know, it's like everybody takes it in in their own way.

00:16:36.420 So whatever it means to you is is awesome.

00:16:39.080 You know, on this one, I just decided go big or go home.

00:16:42.500 So we did it.

00:16:43.760 So let's kick it off with the America haters like Cori Bush. 0.96

00:16:47.300 Thoughts on their message, Amala.

00:16:50.400 Oh, goodness.

00:16:51.220 It's it's just saddens me to see this.

00:16:53.640 I remember growing up and as a young child, when July 4th came around, everybody was celebrating.

00:16:58.560 We all got out our red, white and blue.

00:17:00.360 We were all flying the American flag.

00:17:02.400 We were having parties over these things and really taking a moment to talk about this nation's history,

00:17:08.700 why it's a nation built on ideas and not a certain race or a certain gender or a certain religion or creed.

00:17:16.520 And to hear that all rolled back in the name of, you know, racial justice or gender equality or reparations in order to have these conversations on a day where we should be able to sit back.

00:17:27.860 And like you said, acknowledge how beautiful this country really is, how much progress we've made.

00:17:33.500 And it just is not the right time for it, in my opinion.

00:17:37.540 And we have these conversations year round.

00:17:40.420 Could we please take a moment to acknowledge that we live in a country where we're capable of just outwardly having these conversations,

00:17:46.800 where we as citizens can express these opinions that we disagree on, where we have the free speech right to do so.

00:17:53.120 So that's not going to happen on their part.

00:17:55.520 And I don't see the Fourth of July having a comeback anytime soon with the sort of rhetoric we have surrounding America at large.

00:18:04.700 It's just really disheartening overall.

00:18:06.840 Mm hmm. If you've got Representative Jamal Bowman, I mentioned Cori Bush, also Democrat, but Jamal Bowman, Democrat from New York, tweets out this July 4th.

00:18:16.780 We must remember that we stand on stolen land, toiled by enslaved Africans and recommit ourselves to the fight for freedom, equality and justice and on and on. 0.89

00:18:25.180 It went. The Ben and Jerry's guys, I mentioned them, too.

00:18:29.480 It's high time. We recognize that the U.S. exists on stolen indigenous land and commit to returning it. 0.95

00:18:37.240 Oh, really? How are we going to do that?

00:18:38.540 OK. And our friend, Joseph Massey, everybody loves him.

00:18:45.220 He's a he's our favorite poet. He's been on the show many times.

00:18:48.040 They tried to cancel him, but we revived him.

00:18:50.900 We refused to let him be canceled and he's thriving now.

00:18:53.440 You should go ahead and support him online on Amazon.

00:18:56.200 But he tweeted out first, you need to apologize to the millions of cows you milk without consent.

00:19:01.100 Your product is colonialist misogyny in the form of an overpriced dessert.

00:19:05.520 Stop feeding people cow trauma. 0.57

00:19:08.800 This is the only way forward. You have to laugh at these people.

00:19:11.580 I agree. You do have to laugh at them and they hate that.

00:19:15.980 Right. I mean, comedy is like their their greatest enemy.

00:19:18.880 Right. Of the left. They hate being made fun of.

00:19:20.940 I like what Amala said, that this is just not the time we I'd like one break from the racial 1.00

00:19:26.720 the racial justice, from the the the gender queer theory and the indigenous rights and every

00:19:33.060 all of the American shame narrative that we're constantly bombarded with all the time.

00:19:37.140 It'd be nice if we could have one day of reprieve on the fourth, if we could come together as a

00:19:41.700 country and say, OK, despite our flaws, we're all we're all proud to be Americans.

00:19:46.840 We can all unite under one thing and they can't.

00:19:49.340 And I agree that when I was younger, I remember growing up and thinking America is wonderful

00:19:54.660 and stars and stripes and this is the greatest country on earth.

00:19:58.060 And everybody seems to agree with that.

00:19:59.700 And after 2020, I had this real realization that really not everybody thinks that way.

00:20:06.160 And there is a massive movement in America to tear down our founding fathers, to demonize

00:20:12.220 them, to take down statues that we once revered.

00:20:15.360 Everybody from George Washington, Abraham Lincoln is a is a sign of racism and imperialism

00:20:21.480 and something that we need to take away.

00:20:23.580 And I what I like to talk about is the reason why they're doing this, because we we say,

00:20:29.880 oh, well, it's bad that they're America haters, American shame.

00:20:32.140 They want to create a cultural revolution like they had in China.

00:20:36.920 Really, that's the reason for demonizing our founding fathers, that that's the way that

00:20:41.560 they change the culture, that they change our our mythos and what we believe in as a country.

00:20:47.120 They have to tear down our heritage, our traditions and our history in order to create cultural 1.00

00:20:53.340 change.

00:20:53.760 And really, that's what's happening.

00:20:54.780 And it makes me so sad because, like Amla said, I grew up thinking America is great.

00:20:58.500 And then there was this 2020 disaster that happened that really made me and I think a

00:21:03.180 lot of other Americans really disillusioned.

00:21:05.600 I love how they pretend that, you know, had the Native Americans just been left alone here

00:21:09.600 and America had never been born, the United States of America, the world would be better

00:21:13.760 off.

00:21:14.340 OK, really?

00:21:15.640 Tell it to France. 0.57

00:21:16.520 I just got back from France in 1942.

00:21:21.000 I think they were really grateful for the fact that there was a United States of America

00:21:24.400 and things might have gone a different way had we not been formed.

00:21:28.020 And I love how we pretend that the Native Americans were living totally peacefully over here and 1.00

00:21:32.340 were not committing any violence before we got here.

00:21:35.620 I mean, in country after country, there have been others who have come in and conquered and

00:21:40.720 taken the land.

00:21:41.700 I mean, that is kind of how countries get born.

00:21:43.540 It's not that we were perfect or that we can be proud of every piece of that history.

00:21:47.420 But like the decision to focus on that as America's legacy, on what we're about, is just

00:21:53.660 so unnecessarily myopic, you know, small minded.

00:21:57.600 And it is, to your point, part of an agenda of it.

00:22:00.360 They enjoy tearing down America. 0.73

00:22:02.020 They don't believe in the idea of America.

00:22:05.080 And Amala, it's actually become a thing now where, like, you should be ashamed if you

00:22:10.540 celebrate July 4th.

00:22:12.220 The New York Times had this absurd article called No Sparklers for These Folks.

00:22:18.540 And it kicks it off by talking about how, talks about this woman, Malaya Tapp, who grew up

00:22:28.280 in Arkansas, who used to love celebrating the 4th with her family.

00:22:31.620 But now that she's an adult, she's 18, entering college next year, commemorating the holiday

00:22:36.200 isn't so simple.

00:22:37.460 Started with Black Lives Matter, which caused her to lose a lot of her patriotic feelings. 0.74

00:22:42.060 Uh, now it's hard to tell the difference between guns and fireworks, uh, and fireworks, she 0.89

00:22:48.360 points out, are bad for the environment.

00:22:50.580 They release a lot of toxic chemicals.

00:22:53.060 It's very much a controversial holiday now.

00:22:56.440 Then they go to Marissa Vivori, 29, a tech product manager in Manhattan, who writes about

00:23:02.680 how the last time she celebrated the 4th of July, a few summers ago, because she doesn't

00:23:06.740 celebrate it anymore.

00:23:07.860 She was going off to the Hamptons, straight out of Central Casting.

00:23:11.400 Uh, and she sat on the, uh, on the most packed Long Island railroad train ever.

00:23:17.020 The toilet had overflowed on the train.

00:23:19.480 We all had to hold our bags.

00:23:21.720 And she realized at that moment, she never loved this holiday.

00:23:25.900 She writes, she tells the New York Times, I remember even as a kid feeling bad for the

00:23:29.640 animals during the fireworks.

00:23:31.300 She also has political qualms with it.

00:23:34.160 Last summer, Roe versus Wade was overturned.

00:23:36.720 And that really made me less inclined to celebrate.

00:23:39.160 And the Times adds, even if she wanted to celebrate, she would worry about the message it sent.

00:23:47.960 Oh, goodness.

00:23:49.280 What does the future look like with these people in charge?

00:23:51.940 I'm looking at something that is no fun whatsoever.

00:23:55.060 You never get a moment to celebrate anything.

00:23:57.320 You never get a moment to just simply have fun with your family.

00:24:00.320 And Megan, what that whole story points out for me is a certain lens through which this

00:24:05.360 young woman is looking at the world.

00:24:06.800 And it is really not to her benefit whatsoever.

00:24:10.100 And it's a lens through which I used to look through.

00:24:12.340 And it's one of injustice.

00:24:14.680 Where can I find where things are going wrong?

00:24:16.800 Where can I find where people or animals or the environment is being harmed?

00:24:20.980 And if you're constantly looking at the world through that lens, you will find injustice and

00:24:26.260 racism and white supremacy and patriarchy everywhere you look, because that is the result

00:24:31.940 that you want out of life.

00:24:33.540 That is the way that you are looking at the world.

00:24:35.820 And it sucks because it seems like she got robbed of something, probably partially through

00:24:40.180 her education.

00:24:41.080 She recognizes a time where she used to love the Fourth of July, where she used to have

00:24:45.360 reverence for this country.

00:24:46.440 And at some point through, I guess, talking about this nation's transgressions, she decided

00:24:51.620 that that's no longer the way she felt about that holiday.

00:24:54.660 And she must be reminded that to acknowledge a nation's transgressions is to acknowledge

00:24:59.520 progress out of those transgressions.

00:25:02.160 There's a reason that she's here today to be able to talk about all these political qualms.

00:25:06.400 There's a reason that America is a melting pot.

00:25:08.840 There's a reason we went through all these moments of strife.

00:25:11.260 And it's to be where we are today in order to have these sorts of conversations about our

00:25:15.480 past.

00:25:15.880 So it seems like delusion has taken place here.

00:25:19.720 Mm hmm.

00:25:20.220 I think these people really revel their grief in their grievance.

00:25:23.340 They enjoy it.

00:25:24.180 You know, it's like there's something like the same sort of hit people high.

00:25:28.840 People get off of like a hit of cocaine or meth or whatever their drug of choice is.

00:25:33.080 That's the same thing these grievance mongers get from leaning into their perceived status

00:25:37.860 as victims.

00:25:38.460 And that brings me to this Washington Mystics guard, Natasha Cloud.

00:25:44.340 She's 31 years old, Evita.

00:25:46.380 She received a scholarship to play at the University of Maryland that she transferred to play for

00:25:51.460 St. Joseph's University, was drafted into the WNBA. 0.95

00:25:53.940 She's a lesbian. 1.00

00:25:55.280 She's married to a professional softball player.

00:25:57.520 And instead of being grateful for all of these opportunities that she's gotten in this country,

00:26:03.260 she decided to tweet out our country is trash. 0.96

00:26:07.000 It's trash in so many ways.

00:26:10.840 And instead of using our resources to make it better, we continue to oppress marginalized groups 1.00

00:26:15.180 that we've targeted since the beginning of times.

00:26:17.820 Black, brown communities and LGBTQ plus.

00:26:20.500 We are too powerful to still be attacking these issues separately.

00:26:24.520 I'm cleaning up her language here a little bit. 1.00

00:26:26.880 It's not written properly.

00:26:28.340 There is power in numbers.

00:26:30.560 Imagine weaponizing religion.

00:26:32.680 That's America.

00:26:33.820 We're a hateful disappointment.

00:26:35.400 That's the truth.

00:26:36.920 This person who I guess dropped out of the WNBA in during the George Floyd protests, she said,

00:26:46.060 I'm not going to participate in the upcoming season.

00:26:47.700 I want to instead focus my energy on helping BLM.

00:26:50.320 I'm making this sacrifice for what I believe in.

00:26:54.140 And then guess what happened?

00:26:55.120 Converse stepped in, promising to cover the entirety of her salary, her entire salary.

00:27:02.880 Oh, the sacrifice she made to focus on her goals.

00:27:06.620 She only put her career on hold for one season.

00:27:08.900 And then she signed a multi-year contract with the Washington Mystics again, where I'm sure she's

00:27:12.160 getting paid well.

00:27:13.180 And her response to all of this opportunity and help from companies like Converse to support

00:27:18.300 her and her in her ability to say how she feels, even if it's extremely negative about the

00:27:22.460 country, is F you, America. 0.91

00:27:25.000 You're trash.

00:27:26.200 I hate you.

00:27:27.360 This is what?

00:27:28.040 OK.

00:27:30.720 No one hates on America more than Americans.

00:27:33.660 It's been ridiculous.

00:27:34.580 I think there was a song by Toby Keith that came out in 2021 where he's it's called Happy

00:27:40.100 Birthday, America, where he says no one's burning the American flag in the streets more

00:27:44.560 than more than your children, more than Americans.

00:27:47.320 I think that that is such a sad testament to where we are emotionally as a country, patriotic.

00:27:55.880 You know, that's been in the tank.

00:27:58.000 But also just the the the privilege that you brought up is so interesting because this is

00:28:03.980 a woman who's had every opportunity given to her in the world.

00:28:08.060 And even as she's taking this sacrificial, a supposedly sacrificial step to help BLM, now

00:28:15.540 she has her full salary paid for by Converse.

00:28:18.060 I also think about Brittany Greiner, who, you know, meltdown for the national anthem and 0.83

00:28:22.760 then she gets gets jailed in Russia and the Americans pull through and get her out.

00:28:28.140 And there wasn't much gratitude there or an apology for for the way that she dissed on

00:28:33.180 the United States and our country and our values and who we are after they they got

00:28:37.180 her out of jail.

00:28:38.000 Let's think about Michelle Obama is someone else who is a very privileged woman of color

00:28:42.660 who who's been very successful in America as a first lady and is saying that she's struggled

00:28:48.060 with all this racism in her life and all these problems.

00:28:51.040 Meanwhile, there are there are a lot of white people in Appalachia who who are much less

00:28:55.280 privileged than Michelle Obama or Barack Obama who went to an Ivy League school.

00:28:58.340 So there is a lot of disconnect, I think, with in America, a lot of privilege from people

00:29:04.540 who claim to be victims. And it is killing our country. It is it's it's rotting you from

00:29:09.120 the inside. It's a terrible mentality to have to always feel like you're a victim.

00:29:13.180 You're never going to feel satisfied in your life, feel successful, feel feel at peace when

00:29:19.300 you're constantly playing this victim Olympics game.

00:29:23.140 You know, Brittany Greiner, not only did we go get her back despite her America hating,

00:29:28.280 we traded this Russian arms dealer for her. We had him in custody.

00:29:31.640 We gave him up to make sure she had her freedom. And honestly, like we went back and we got our

00:29:37.020 girl like she's an American. We got her. We did what we need. And still you get comments like

00:29:42.320 this, like from a fellow WNBA or America's trash. And this is what led Ennis Cantor freedom.

00:29:48.560 He's been on the show, former basketball player, pro pro player who now is an American citizen.

00:29:53.900 He writes, just ask your colleague Brittany Greiner how trash America is. Great point. Right. 0.97

00:29:58.920 Calling America trash. Let me know when your season's over. I'll buy you a ticket

00:30:03.080 and we can go together to countries like China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba and

00:30:09.000 Turkey. He finishes up by saying people have no idea how lucky and blessed they are to be in a

00:30:13.760 country like America. I'm not saying America is perfect, but trust me, you don't want to see the

00:30:18.440 other side. That's exactly right. You know, and by the way, Brittany Greiner got back Avita and

00:30:23.460 played in her first, I think, WNBA game. And her coach was like, this is bullshit. The arena's not

00:30:31.520 filled. Where is everybody? Why aren't they? You know what? We did the right thing by Brittany

00:30:36.700 Greiner, but she refuses to celebrate us. Yes, she softened on it now. She she's changed her

00:30:41.700 had a change in heart. She now stands for the national anthem. But forgive us if we're not rushing

00:30:45.960 to stand and applaud her because this person who used to hate our country and cost us an arms dealer

00:30:51.620 who was in custody here was wrong for most of her professional career and life. So, no, we're glad

00:30:59.600 she's back. We're not going to show up and cheer her. And yet, you know, you've got people who are

00:31:04.360 still feeling entitled like we're supposed to be clapping for Brittany. I guess we're supposed to clap

00:31:08.980 for this person, for this again, Natasha Cloud. I've never heard of this person when she plays for

00:31:14.860 the Washington Mystics. You know, as we've been saying, it's a no. I'm a lot. It's a no.

00:31:21.620 It absolutely is. And it's you know, I think we're watching overarchingly the decline of American

00:31:27.340 sports. These sports players all over our country are complaining about the state of America while

00:31:32.980 sitting in one of the most privileged spots that you can possibly be in. When we're talking about

00:31:37.320 these female athletes, I'm reminded of LeBron James, one of the most successful black men in

00:31:41.820 the United States of America, who is constantly crying about his own oppression and the oppression

00:31:48.040 of black Americans in this nation, putting down police officers, even though he's living in, 0.99

00:31:54.760 you know, millions and millions of dollars worth of, you know, real estate here in the United States

00:32:00.400 of America. They all get to enjoy this country from really the highest of towers. And yet they sit

00:32:07.800 and complain about what exactly. I'm really confused. And it was yeah, it was a personal experience that I

00:32:15.220 went through to as a leftist going, you know what, as a black person and as a female, I'm oppressed in

00:32:19.740 this nation, even though I had never really experienced it, even though I enjoyed an abundance

00:32:24.240 of privilege in this nation. You are so convinced by the narrative and you derive such fuel and power

00:32:30.720 and meaning from these sort of narratives of depression of oppression that you attach yourself

00:32:38.080 to them, regardless of where you go in life, even if you become a multimillionaire,

00:32:42.420 successful athlete. But you are such the exception. You you are willing to question your own beliefs.

00:32:49.880 That is exceedingly rare, sadly. And but you were willing to be persuaded by facts, by logic,

00:32:56.220 by alternate arguments if they resonated with you. You know, that's just not true of somebody like

00:33:01.660 LeBron James. I guess he and Michelle Obama, as you put it and Meghan Markle and Oprah, I guess

00:33:06.980 they're going to get some of Cori Bush's 14 trillion dollars in reparations. Sure. Right. Okay.

00:33:12.800 We'll just see about that. All right. Stand by, ladies. We'll be right back after this quick, quick break. 1.00

00:33:21.440 All right, ladies. So there's Coke at the White House. They actually found cocaine at the Biden White

00:33:29.320 House. And somehow it managed not to be the biggest story everywhere and all the mainstream media,

00:33:34.380 though I suspect it would have been different had it been the Trump White House or in fairness,

00:33:39.300 even the Obama White House that would have had tongues wagging. But I guess because Joe Biden is

00:33:44.460 200, we've just decided it's definitely not his. And the son's a drug addict. So whatever. We don't

00:33:51.840 care. I mean, what if there's Coke at the White House and they found it in the West Wing, in one of the

00:33:57.440 working areas of the West Wing, they originally said the library. And that was convenient because they

00:34:01.080 could have said, oh, it was a member of the public. But then they had to admit, no, it was actually found

00:34:05.440 in the West Wing, in the working area of the West Wing. I don't know. We all suspect Hunter. Let's be

00:34:11.560 honest. He was there two days earlier. He was there two days later. Does anybody really believe he's

00:34:18.000 totally clean and sober and, you know, hasn't had any falls off the wagon? I don't know. But we've gotten

00:34:23.440 precious few details out of the White House or the press on this. Ari Fleischer was asking good

00:34:32.140 questions. He was, of course, a former press secretary under President Bush. And he was saying

00:34:35.900 where we're in the West Wing. We're entitled to know. Was it in the situation room? Was it in the

00:34:40.920 Oval Office? Like where whose office was it in? We can get more specific and we deserve to to have

00:34:46.440 those specifics on this. Yeah, I would agree with you there and agree with him there. I think they're

00:34:52.080 going to be working, you know, PR angle on this one, trying to figure out what's the best possible

00:34:56.500 position that they could place this cocaine in, which just blows my mind that we're even talking

00:35:00.600 about this right now. But the way that I'm thinking about it is in order to get into the White House,

00:35:05.240 don't you have to go through very extensive security checks? Aren't they, you know, checking

00:35:10.120 people's pockets? I've heard on the news that it's hard to even get your own personal wallet into the

00:35:14.800 White House, let alone cocaine and who even knows how much. So I'm thinking this would have to be a

00:35:19.840 person who maybe they wouldn't check on or has a certain amount of privilege where they can get

00:35:23.840 through without those checks being made. Hunter Biden, wink, wink. But it's just wild to me that

00:35:30.360 they're not coming out with very direct answers on this. And it just leads me to believe that they

00:35:34.880 need to sort of clean up the edges on this one a little bit, decide who they can implicate in this

00:35:39.460 or if they can get away with, you know, falsifying some story where nobody's implicated because this

00:35:44.680 is a bad look for this administration, especially with all of the other things that are going on

00:35:49.800 with Biden and Hunter Biden. Well, especially exactly, because we just saw him get a slap

00:35:55.640 on the wrist, Evita, for his tax evasion, for his falsified gun application, saying he wasn't an

00:36:02.740 addict when we knew that he was, you know, these drug crimes that his father's tried to punish

00:36:07.180 everybody else for. But I guess when it comes to Hunter, he gets a pass. Now, this is not to say that

00:36:11.760 this is Hunter's cocaine. That was a joke. We have no idea whose it is. But somebody in the White 0.52

00:36:16.420 House had cocaine. And so it'd be great to see him show the same sort of zealot, zealous attitude

00:36:22.320 toward the law enforcement, toward his own staff or who knows whoever's in that White House,

00:36:28.320 as he's shown toward private citizens. Right. And alarm bells are totally going off in my mind and

00:36:35.440 should be everybody else's that they're not telling us exactly where this cocaine was found.

00:36:40.280 This has been a wild ride for the White House. I mean, you have, first of all, cocaine found.

00:36:46.740 Then a few weeks ago, you had naked transgenders at an official White House lawn event. And then you 1.00

00:36:53.980 have this Hunter Biden investigation and Biden investigation and these IRS whistleblowers

00:36:59.640 implicating the whole family in collusion with the DOJ and their tax crimes and getting money from

00:37:08.520 from the Ukrainians and the Chinese businessmen. I mean, this is just a wild week for the White 1.00

00:37:15.360 House and continuing on for months now. So I think that this is really purposeful that they're not

00:37:20.500 telling us what's going on. This is always what they do. This is what they did with the IRS

00:37:25.960 investigation. I'm sorry, the IRS whistleblowers. Right after they came out with their testimonies,

00:37:32.120 you had a bunch of media stories. You had the Russian potential coup that ended up not being a

00:37:37.640 coup. And then you had this submarine explosion that they didn't tell us actually exploded until

00:37:42.400 way later. This is what the media does all the time to cover up for their political allies and 0.79

00:37:47.820 particularly this Biden administration. And it's really disgusting. And I think all of us should be

00:37:53.240 asking, where was this cocaine found? Who had it? And continue asking these questions because if we

00:37:58.160 don't hold the White House and the media accountable, they will continue to lie to us and stonewall us

00:38:03.540 until they until we hopefully all forget it. Well, let's let's be realistic. There are cameras

00:38:09.460 covering every inch of the White House. I mean, there's no way that there is any public area that

00:38:14.060 is accessible by staff, never mind visitors, that they don't have on camera. So this should not be too

00:38:18.880 hard to solve. And we deserve an answer. We deserve to know who was it? Was it some high level policy

00:38:24.460 person who's on drugs inside the White House? Was it a member of the first family? Was it some low

00:38:29.840 level staffer? And how on earth did they get coke into the people's house? I want answers to all

00:38:34.580 these things. This I should point out just hit from CBS saying reports that the illicit drug was

00:38:41.360 allegedly found in a common area storage facility cubby where White House staff and guests regularly store

00:38:49.760 their cell phones. Additionally, a source familiar with the ongoing investigation. So that single

00:38:55.220 source unnamed said that the substance was found in a small dime sized bag. That's according to NBC

00:39:01.480 News. Now, listen, you really want us to believe that some guest who was forced to store his phone

00:39:08.660 in a cubby took out his dime bag of coke and shoved it in there right next to his phone? Like, oh,

00:39:14.860 I got to take everything out of my pockets and store bullshit. That's not true. That's not how

00:39:19.740 this happened. So hopefully we're going to get actual answers here. But it's like it's back to

00:39:26.300 the old, you know, the press needs to get aggressive on this and actually get us answers, because truly

00:39:31.400 there is a possibility that somebody who's important is actually taking drugs inside of our White House

00:39:37.020 while they work on U.S. policy. And we are entitled to know. Oh, I mean, 100 percent. We're entitled

00:39:42.980 to know much of the goings ons within the White House. And it's just unfortunate that I feel we're

00:39:47.460 probably not going to get to the bottom of this. They're very good with, you know, covering their

00:39:51.520 asses and making sure we don't find out what we truly need to know here. And we all know. I mean,

00:39:56.380 let's be honest, there's probably a lot of debauchery that happens within these political circles

00:40:00.720 amongst these officials and these administrators. So I'm not at all surprised to have heard that there is

00:40:06.820 cocaine. I'm just surprised really about the location of the cocaine. I imagine if we did a full

00:40:12.160 scale investigation, we'd find a lot more illicit drugs than just that. Well, apparently the Secret

00:40:17.180 Service saw it like they were walking through and they saw it like, holy. And they had a test and it

00:40:21.160 was coke. I mean, I thought I threw a rager on the Fourth of July. I had no idea what Joe Biden's doing

00:40:26.040 at the White House, like their next level over there. As far as I know, none of my guests was on drugs.

00:40:33.260 We got high the old fashioned way with music and good company.

00:40:37.120 Okay. So speaking of Joe and Hunter Biden and their beautiful relationship, he puts Hunter out

00:40:44.300 in the White House balcony on July 4th. Is it just me or I'm offended by that? I don't want to see

00:40:49.720 Hunter Biden on the White House balcony. The guy's a hot mess. He's broken more laws than,

00:40:55.140 you know, I can count. He's given a pass. He just got a sweetheart deal. He's been taking advantage of

00:40:59.560 his dad's relationship to power for the better part of two decades now. And I got to look at this guy

00:41:04.980 standing out there on the White House balcony. I know he loves his son. I'm sick of it. I don't

00:41:08.720 want to look at his face. He's corrupt. He's disgusting. He's a criminal. All right. Hunter

00:41:13.600 Biden is a criminal and has no business being up on that White House balcony. But he loves his son.

00:41:20.140 So we're supposed to just say it's fine, Evita. It's fine.

00:41:23.700 Well, I wonder if the reason that Biden is keeping him so close, because you're right,

00:41:28.140 it is such a bizarre look for the White House to have this criminal son up on public display 24 seven.

00:41:34.040 And apparently he actually even lives at the White House. I wonder if the reason they're doing this,

00:41:38.820 the reason Biden has chosen to keep his son at the forefront is because he wants him close by,

00:41:43.640 because he's been such a problem. He needs to keep him under control and make sure he's got eyes on

00:41:49.360 the balcony celebrating the fourth. And he's like, holy shit, where's Hunter? Get him out.

00:41:53.480 He's could be down at the White House cubbies again. Get him. Get him up here.

00:41:57.440 Right. I mean, who knows? I mean, this is a this is a very troubled man who's had a lot of

00:42:01.680 problems in his life and has implicated the entire Biden family in a massive crime scheme.

00:42:05.560 So it makes sense to me why his dad would be like, you know what? I need to keep you close by.

00:42:11.040 Yeah, well, that's I mean, a new kind of helicopter parenting, if so.

00:42:16.500 Here's the other thing a lot. They're really tight up there. The Biden family, super tight,

00:42:22.120 super loving, super, super close, unless you were the product of an extramarital relationship

00:42:27.760 with a stripper, in which case you don't exist. So Joe Biden has seven grandchildren, not six.

00:42:33.880 He's got a little granddaughter named Navy who he refuses to acknowledge. His wife refuses to

00:42:39.100 acknowledge. And the father of that little girl, Joe Biden's son, Hunter, refuses to acknowledge.

00:42:46.520 I'll just give you a flavor on how Joe Biden talks about his very, very close

00:42:50.140 family, including his six, not seven grandchildren. Sot one.

00:42:56.260 We have we have grandchildren and children. I have six grandchildren and I'm crazy about them.

00:43:04.080 I speak to them every single day. My oldest granddaughter, her name is Naomi. I have number

00:43:10.480 two. Her name is Finnegan. And number three nickname we call her is Maisie Natalie. And she is a senior

00:43:19.880 in high school about to graduate. And then I have a grandson who's going to be a senior in high

00:43:25.860 school. And now I have a new a new baby boy. He's three and a half years old. He's Bo Biden. So guess

00:43:34.880 what? They're crazy about me because I pay so much attention to them. And only them has not even spoken

00:43:44.260 this granddaughter's name, even though they say, Amala, that her mother has told the little girl

00:43:52.180 who's now four that Hunter Biden is her father and that the president of the United States is her

00:43:58.400 grandfather. She has never met either one of them. Again, her name is Navy. Her mother's name is London

00:44:06.560 Roberts, who's 32. And The New York Times went down to its credit finally and profiled the mother and

00:44:14.120 daughter. This is, you know, Joe Biden tries to sell himself as the example of father and grandfather

00:44:20.320 extraordinaire. Yeah, it's when I see that video of Hunter Biden on the balcony, I'm thinking you

00:44:26.820 have some other family members that you should be, you know, giving a call to or getting closer to

00:44:30.840 rather than Hunter Biden here. It's very interesting to watch this story unfold. And more so than anything,

00:44:36.220 I just feel sad for this young child. Right. If you are a four year old who knows of your father's

00:44:41.780 existence, knows that your grandfather is the president and you are living in a less than

00:44:45.800 privileged life, as detailed by The New York Times, I believe you're watching, you know, other kids get

00:44:51.620 the attention and the privilege that you really deserve by virtue of being born the daughter of

00:44:58.320 Hunter Biden. So I can imagine that there's a lot of sadness here as as a young girl watching this. I grew

00:45:05.820 up without a father for much of my life. And that's what a father that I had met that I had spent time

00:45:10.480 with. Imagine never having that opportunity while seeing him on TV, seeing him gallivant around with

00:45:16.100 your your grandfather and just looking at the life that they are leading while you are here without

00:45:21.920 your your father or your grandfather. It's just a really devastating story. I'm really in the back

00:45:28.240 of my mind, hoping that, you know, she's at a young age right now where this isn't going to be cemented

00:45:32.620 as some sort of trauma for her. And hopefully they will come together, build some sort of healthy

00:45:37.360 relationship. Although I don't know what sort of healthy relationship you can have with a man like

00:45:41.680 Hunter Biden, who is engaging in this sort of activity, who is hiring prostitutes, who is doing

00:45:45.980 drugs. It's just really a sad, sad story. Who made it a deal term when he got pinched by the court to

00:45:51.920 finally pay the paternity, I mean, the child support that he owes, who made it a deal term that this

00:45:57.580 little girl not use the Biden name. He insisted that she not use the Biden name, even though he is her

00:46:02.780 father. And she has every right to do that. I don't know how that wound up being a deal term.

00:46:07.320 He wanted his twenty thousand dollars a month child support payment lowered because he said he

00:46:11.480 doesn't have the money because he's run out of the Chinese and Ukrainian money now, Evita.

00:46:15.380 So they lowered it. And in exchange, he said, OK, we can have some of my paintings.

00:46:19.740 So now this mother has to sell some of the Hunter Biden paintings. This, as we're told in strategy 0.97

00:46:25.740 meetings, aides are being told at the White House that the Bidens have six, not seven grandchildren.

00:46:32.220 And that is the official line, as more and more people are wondering whether this is going to get

00:46:38.040 saddled around Joe Biden every time he tries to tout what a wonderful family man he is.

00:46:43.880 And this is what the media has actually been enabling this. Finally, the New York Times were

00:46:47.640 right. They did do a profile on it. People magazine did a story just a while ago that said,

00:46:52.420 meet Biden's six grandchildren. He has seven grandchildren, and one of them is Navy Roberts,

00:46:57.480 and she's been denied her her family name. They're so embarrassed of this adorable little

00:47:03.420 girl that they won't even let her use the Biden family name. I think that's such a sad

00:47:07.340 situation and a horrible testament to the kind of people the Bidens are.

00:47:14.440 In twenty twenty three, this year for Father's Day, Joe Biden issued the following proclamation.

00:47:19.180 I read it in part. Fathers are critical to raising the next generation and to teaching their daughters

00:47:23.280 and sons about values that matter most. They demonstrate responsible fatherhood and foster

00:47:28.340 healthy perspectives on things like masculinity. He goes on to say, my dad taught me that above all,

00:47:34.660 family is the beginning, middle and end. A lesson I've passed down to my children and grandchildren.

00:47:40.960 You're a fraud, sir. You're a fraud until you admit that you have a seventh grandchild and you teach

00:47:45.300 those very lessons you speak of to your son, Hunter, who's not living any of them with respect to this

00:47:50.820 little girl who deserves better. Amala Evita, stay with us. Quick break. We'll be right back. 0.99

00:47:59.520 So let's talk a little 2024 politics because something interesting happened over the weekend,

00:48:04.740 and I wonder what you make of this. The top spokesperson for Ron DeSantis' PAC never backed down.

00:48:13.160 His name is Steve Cortez. He used to work on the Trump campaign back in 2016 and then again in 2020,

00:48:17.700 but he's turned. He's gone. Team DeSantis comes out breaking pretty much one of the cardinal rules of

00:48:24.000 politics, which is don't be honest about how much your candidate is down. Like just keep saying

00:48:31.760 optimistic, hopeful, powerful things and do not lean into anything that is negative that could that

00:48:38.180 could lead the public to perceive you as not doing well or not likely to win. Right. People like to back

00:48:43.920 a winner and then it sort of snowballs into like a self-fulfilling prophecy. So he hosted a Twitter

00:48:51.000 spaces event on Sunday evening and offered a pretty glum assessment of DeSantis' current situation.

00:49:01.140 We've got a little bit of that queued up. Let's see. I think it's SOT 3.

00:49:06.020 Look, right now in national polling, uh, we are way behind. I'll be the first to admit that. Okay.

00:49:12.280 I believe in being really blunt and really honest. It's a, it's an uphill battle. I don't think it's

00:49:16.220 an unwinnable battle by any stretch. Okay. But clearly Donald Trump is the, is the runaway front

00:49:21.420 runner. We're clearly the underdog in the first four States, which matter tremendously. Polls are a

00:49:28.000 lot tighter. We're clearly still down. We're down double digits. We have work to do. Okay. Then he

00:49:33.720 goes on to say, um, that he thought the gap between Trump and DeSantis could be closed, but if we do not

00:49:42.400 prevail, I'll tell you this, we will make president Trump better for having this kind of primary. Then

00:49:49.680 he went on to admit that Trump is a better debater saying is Ron the debater that Trump is? No, no,

00:49:55.800 he isn't. Absolutely. Donald Trump is the maestro of it. He's the maestro of it, right? No doubt about

00:50:01.640 it. When he gets on the debate stage, you know, on his feet in front of a microphone, he debates like

00:50:05.880 Jack Nicklaus plays golf. There's no doubt about it. My God, Steve, step away from the microphone.

00:50:11.500 This is not helpful to team DeSantis. All I could think Amala is this is like when your boyfriend or

00:50:18.660 your spouse starts speaking a little too lovingly and wistfully about a prior girlfriend. And you're like,

00:50:25.300 and it needs to end. Okay. Enough. Lovely talk about the X. You're with me now, sir, Steve,

00:50:33.540 just stop it. So what do you make of it?

00:50:38.800 Somebody needs to coach them on the way that they frame these situations and how you

00:50:43.040 have this conversation without having this conversation. It's no wonder that a lot of

00:50:47.800 people are looking at, you know, Trump versus DeSantis and referring to DeSantis as, you know,

00:50:52.280 junior because he's acting like a junior. His employees are acting like juniors. So that's

00:50:57.960 not really going to work out for him. And it seems like he's been having quite an issue on the campaign

00:51:02.340 trail. I don't know if you saw a recent ad that he put out sort of talking about how Trump was buddy

00:51:08.900 buddy with the LGBTQ plus community. And if Ron DeSantis is elected. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I mean,

00:51:16.160 it wasn't it wasn't the greatest ad and certainly didn't frame him in the best light for, you know,

00:51:20.600 some of the major conversations and controversial issues that people are going to be talking about

00:51:25.100 during this election here. Again, I think that junior title is reasonable when you're hearing

00:51:32.060 things like this. Hmm. If you know what do you make of it? Because I appreciate the guy saying,

00:51:37.840 like, I'll give it to you straight. But that's a conversation when you're in his position,

00:51:41.260 you have behind closed doors. You don't you do not put that on Twitter spaces. You do not do

00:51:45.760 anything that makes your candidate look like anything other than the inevitable winner.

00:51:50.840 Right. And to me, I I was thinking about fundraising. The second I heard about that,

00:51:55.240 I said, you know, that's not a way to raise money for a candidate is to tell him, hey,

00:51:59.520 we're really, really behind and I don't know if we can win. And the opponent is way better at

00:52:04.980 debating. And there's a lot of truth to what to what he said. I think he was very frank and very

00:52:09.460 honest. And as a voter, I appreciate it. But I think if you're in if you're in the DeSantis camp,

00:52:13.540 you cannot be talking like that because it's going to set him up for failure. I think,

00:52:18.100 you know, I think liberals like to talk about it a lot. But affirmations are actually a big deal.

00:52:22.840 If you if you tell yourself and you tell the voters and you tell your donors that your candidate

00:52:28.600 is really far behind and we're not doing so hot, then he's going to continue to not do so hot.

00:52:33.340 I think presidential elections have been turned around. Trump was was polling really low at this at this

00:52:38.840 time last year. I'm sorry, not last year, last two cycles ago. And he came back. So there's

00:52:45.820 definitely hope for him. I think that this kind of rhetoric is really going to be detrimental to

00:52:50.100 his campaign. And I think that that needs to really turn around. He needs to get his camp in

00:52:54.860 check and and really put guidelines around the rhetoric they're allowed to put out if he's going

00:52:59.420 to have even a remote chance of being successful, because he's right. Trump is a very formidable

00:53:04.700 candidate. This is going to be a really difficult race. And that kind of that kind of rhetoric cannot

00:53:08.560 stand anymore. Well, like picture two runners in a race along the track and one is way ahead of the

00:53:14.280 second person behind them. And you're the coach for the second person. Do you say like you're really

00:53:20.700 making the one in the lead position better? You know that they're going to be an even stronger runner

00:53:26.240 for the fact that you are on this track and all you out there who want to bet on this race,

00:53:30.640 just continue betting on number two, because it's going to really make number one even stronger. I

00:53:34.700 mean, come on, given the position he's in that that he's giving straight political analysis that

00:53:39.980 would be appropriate on a show like this, but is not appropriate for somebody who's on team

00:53:44.060 DeSantis. And it plays into the already existing fear that is held by a lot of DeSantis supporters

00:53:49.480 that there's just no getting around the 800 pound gorilla. It's not like 2016 when the front

00:53:54.800 runner was Jeb Bush. Jeb with the explanation point, who is never 30 points ahead, never mind

00:54:01.100 40, which we've seen in some of these polls of the second person or even Donald Trump,

00:54:05.820 who, you know, for some polls was the fifth person in line. Yeah, he needs to be talking

00:54:11.280 about the fact that he is stronger, that he's going to show up, that he's going to be a younger

00:54:15.560 buck in the race that is going to be capable of competing against Donald Trump. And they should

00:54:19.480 be emphasizing that there's a debate cycle that's going to be coming up and they have multiple

00:54:22.960 debates that Ron DeSantis is going to be able to shine in. Don't emphasize the fact that Donald

00:54:27.860 Trump is a better debater than anybody else. Unless they're trying to lower expectations.

00:54:31.660 Maybe they're trying to lower expectations. And that seems to be what the case is here.

00:54:35.440 But if you are going to be a competitor, you should be saying, even if you truly feel that way about

00:54:39.260 your debate skills, you should be watching, you know, old tapes of Donald Trump, you know,

00:54:43.540 going through the replay of it, seeing where can we beat him there? What's a strong angle we can have

00:54:48.120 on this issue? And then say, you know what? You might see Ron DeSantis on the news now and you

00:54:52.840 might not think much of him compared to Donald Trump. But wait till we get to that debate stage.

00:54:56.400 He is going to shine brighter than any other candidate you've ever seen. And he's going to be

00:55:00.940 a formidable foe for Donald Trump. This is the problem with the upcoming debates and something

00:55:05.920 interesting about them that I just learned from my team. So, you know, that Trump is threatening not

00:55:09.720 to participate in at least that first debate hosted by Fox News at the end of August. And I understand

00:55:15.340 his point. He's, you know, 30 plus points up. He's like, why should I? I don't have to. You know,

00:55:19.960 I don't know. What's the point for me, though? It'll be hard to resist. It's just such a huge

00:55:25.280 platform and so on. So we'll see whether he shows up. But but what my team informed me was even Ron

00:55:29.640 DeSantis's team has suggested if Trump doesn't go to Santa's might not go. Now, I mean, that like I can't

00:55:37.440 see that actually happening. It's really not a debate if it's just it doesn't have the two front runners.

00:55:42.180 Um, but they're all talking about how Trump is an expert in sort of asymmetrical warfare up there,

00:55:48.700 Evita. You know, he's and it's true. You know, I said this the other week on my show. Chris Christie

00:55:52.920 thinks he's going to get out there with these sharp knives and take down Trump because he knows how to

00:55:56.460 handle him. He sort of said publicly, I'm the only one who knows how to handle him. Well, good luck

00:56:00.080 because you'll have your best argument. I was having this conversation with my husband. He'll put out

00:56:04.300 his best substantive argument. He'll say all the stuff he's been saying about Trump. He sat there on

00:56:07.340 January 6th. He watched the protesters. They were defecating all over the Capitol. They were hurting

00:56:11.820 police officers. And he sat and he enjoyed it while he ate his Big Mac. And Trump will look at

00:56:15.200 him and be like, you're fat. And then my husband, Doug, said, well, Chris, you should get ahead of

00:56:18.500 that in his arguments. If that's what he's going to happen, he should say, look, he's going to respond

00:56:22.280 to this by saying I'm fat, something ridiculous, off point ad hominem. But this is who Donald Trump

00:56:27.420 is. And I said, you think that's going to stop Donald Trump? He's going to look at him and he's

00:56:30.500 going to say, you are fat and fat. People are this or that. What are you like? Trump? He won't care.

00:56:36.260 He doesn't play by the same rules as anybody up there. And that to his supporters is part of his

00:56:41.580 appeal. Because what do they love about Trump? One of the big things is the entertainment value

00:56:47.460 of Trump. He makes them laugh. He's unpredictable. He is kind of sizzling to watch as a politician,

00:56:55.300 as an entertainer, as a public figure. So it's almost like Trump can't lose. He can't.

00:56:59.960 I think that's exactly why he should not recuse himself from any sort of debate, because it's

00:57:06.920 his greatest asset. People love watching him on that debate stage, absolutely clobbering

00:57:12.760 all of his opponents. And I think, to your point, Chris Christie and Ron DeSantis and even Vivek

00:57:19.040 Ramaswamy, all of these candidates won't stand a chance against Trump, because even if they have

00:57:24.840 the right talking points, none of them can match this man's energy and his vibrato. He is 100%

00:57:32.300 a showman, an entertainer. That's how he wins over his audiences, by these sort of quick, funny,

00:57:40.020 kind of crass sometimes, really sort of ridiculous attacks that keep the audience laughing and really

00:57:47.400 not even addressing some of the real issues. It's kind of his strong suit. He's able to skirt around

00:57:51.340 so many things by just being an entertainer and by and by, you know, having these sort of

00:57:56.560 middle school boy type attacks at his opponents. And it's so fun for the audience to watch. It's

00:58:01.040 a great asset for him on the campaign trail. And I also think there's really no one that can compete

00:58:06.340 against him when it comes to a debate stage. A couple of years ago, Amala, my husband and I

00:58:12.180 went to see this comedian, Dove Davidson. He was hysterical and he was doing this bit about how

00:58:19.860 Trump communicates. And he's like, you know, he says all the right things, says all the right

00:58:25.000 things, you know, like we're going to we're going to get rid of Obamacare. And then somebody would say,

00:58:29.620 what are you going to replace it with? And he says something amazing. It's why don't I feel that good?

00:58:35.600 You know what I listen to? He says, right. But I don't feel very good when it's done when he's done.

00:58:39.640 And he's like, he could come home from from the bar, you know, like me and my buds late in the

00:58:45.200 night, 3 a.m. His wife like, where were you? Somewhere amazing. Yeah, I always wonder if,

00:58:54.360 you know, they are doing, you know, strict analysis on the things that he's saying,

00:58:57.780 if this is actually a strategic move for him or if he just naturally comes out with this sort of

00:59:01.960 phrasing. And that's how he talks to people. I've seen people break down his speeches. Yeah,

00:59:06.280 probably the latter. He's very much himself when he's on the stage. But I've seen people

00:59:10.600 break down his speeches compared to other candidates and his opponents. And he speaks

00:59:15.300 in layman's terms. He gives it to you straight. And he leaves you feeling good. He leaves you

00:59:21.220 feeling like you are on the top of the world, regardless of what he is talking about.

00:59:25.280 And I have to think, you know, a that it comes naturally, but be that he just really understands

00:59:31.040 what is in people's hearts and how to really attach himself to to good feelings, regardless

00:59:36.980 about regardless of what he's talking about or what the subject is. If there's a problem,

00:59:41.520 he's acknowledging the problem. He's pointing in somebody else's direction and he's going to be

00:59:45.520 the big man who's around to fix it. So for all the DeSantis fans out there or Vivek fans or Tim Scott

00:59:52.380 or Nikki Haley, this is what they're up against. I know like they're feeling down because they really

00:59:58.760 don't want Trump. They don't like Trump or they don't think Trump can win. I've heard that from

01:00:03.720 a lot of people who have voted for Trump but are just convinced he can't win. This is what they're

01:00:10.500 up against. Trump goes to South Carolina just the other day, picking South Carolina, very, very red

01:00:18.360 county, the reddest county in South Carolina. But let's not forget Nikki Haley was governor of South

01:00:23.100 Carolina. Tim Scott is senator from South Carolina. So this should technically be their country.

01:00:28.480 Their territory. Trump goes and it was. It was like a Taylor Swift concert. Forgive me to Donald

01:00:37.720 Trump. But this town only has thirty four hundred people. More than fifty thousand showed up per the

01:00:45.960 local police chief. It was absolutely insane. Look at this. Look at these crowds who turned out to hear

01:00:53.900 him speak this on top of the fact that the latest polls show the same enthusiasm. If this were just

01:01:00.660 anecdotal, that'd be one thing. But it's not. The polls are reflecting this enthusiasm. Twenty twenty four

01:01:07.860 GOP primary polling among likely voters. That's what we care about. Don't don't forget. Don't pay

01:01:13.580 attention to registered likely voters. The latest by Echelon Insights. Echelon has an A slash B rating

01:01:19.900 from 538 for what it's worth. They show Trump thirty three points up over DeSantis. Trump's at forty

01:01:27.140 nine. DeSantis is at sixteen. Flashback, ladies, to just this past January. Right. That's what? Seven

01:01:35.260 months ago. Trump was at thirty six. DeSantis was at thirty four. They were there was a two point difference

01:01:43.840 between the two of them. Then in February, it went up to a fifteen point difference in Trump's favor.

01:01:50.240 By March, that was up to twenty three points. Donald Trump. This is when he got indicted in New York.

01:01:56.380 And now here we are, May, June and into July, and Trump is up thirty three points. The more they

01:02:04.540 indict him, the higher his numbers go. But it was I mean, it's not that long ago where it was a two

01:02:11.220 point race. DeSantis was flying high a couple of months post those November midterms in which he

01:02:16.260 crushed down in Florida. Donald Trump was blamed for the GOP not doing as well as it should have

01:02:21.180 in the House, never mind the Senate. And things have completely turned. Why? I think in large part

01:02:26.540 because of those indictments, as I said. And also we've gotten a closer look at DeSantis and people

01:02:34.200 have found him lackluster in some corners. Yeah, there's just nobody who is stacking up to Donald

01:02:40.580 Trump here. And I find it really hard to believe that there is much optimism. Now what that man said

01:02:45.640 in that Twitter space is making quite a bit of sense after seeing all of these people showing up.

01:02:50.720 What's going to happen is there's nobody who's going to be able to match the charisma. There's

01:02:54.480 nobody who's going to be able to match the moxie. There's nobody who's going to be able to 1.00

01:02:58.360 shoot straight enough to appeal to the great amount of skepticism that people are feeling towards

01:03:03.500 everything. Our government, our media elections at large. And Donald Trump is going to come in and

01:03:08.740 fill that hole for them. And he's also going to give them a hopeful message and optimistic message

01:03:14.200 for the future as, you know, a strong sharpshooter who's going to tell it to them straight and make

01:03:19.200 the change here. Ron DeSantis has his track record with Florida to talk about and use to back him.

01:03:24.620 But that doesn't really scale up to what Donald Trump did during his administration and during his

01:03:30.320 presidency in this country. Not to mention the sense of entitlement that a lot of Trump voters feel

01:03:35.640 for seeing him back in the White House. They feel as though they were robbed of that opportunity,

01:03:39.680 that they deserve it a second time around, and that they'll do any sort of rallying and convincing

01:03:44.740 and persuading that they need to do to see him back there.

01:03:48.140 Evita, the spokesperson, Steve Cortez of the DeSantis PAC came out and said, and you heard it in

01:03:55.480 that soundbite. Yes, he's he's far and away the front runner. However, in the first four primary

01:04:02.720 states, which matter tremendously, polls are a lot tighter. Now, that's true. They're tighter

01:04:08.760 than the national average. And, you know, you there's been a poll here, a poll there that show

01:04:12.920 it a little closer. But we pulled the the pop, the average of polls in Iowa, South Carolina,

01:04:20.380 New Hampshire, Nevada. And here's what they show in Iowa. The average the average of all polls

01:04:26.900 shows Trump up 32 points over DeSantis in Iowa, in New Hampshire, Trump's up 28 points in South

01:04:35.260 Carolina, Trump's up 23 points. This is over DeSantis in Nevada, Trump's up 30 points. My note

01:04:42.540 next to these four averages reads, my God, I mean, I just I don't do political advice. You know,

01:04:50.400 that's not my I don't know how to get people elected or to stop them from getting elected.

01:04:53.940 But there has to be a sheer panic with these numbers. The team DeSantis has blanketed Iowa.

01:05:00.680 There isn't a door he hasn't knocked on through one of his supporters or, you know, constituents

01:05:05.840 who are there on his behalf. They flooded it with money, the super PAC and others.

01:05:10.940 And the Iowa average has Trump up 32 points higher than in any other state.

01:05:16.180 I mean, those numbers are are so detrimental to the DeSantis team and they're trying to damage

01:05:21.520 control. But it's really it's not going to work because, like you said, this indictment has

01:05:25.500 enraged the right. This base of Republican voters have have suddenly said, you know what?

01:05:31.920 I was I like DeSantis. I like what he did in Florida. But Trump's my guy now. The deep state

01:05:37.600 is after him. The Biden administration is prosecuting him. I'm I'm all in now basically to give a finger

01:05:44.320 to the everybody who's who's come after this man for years. It started with Russia collusion

01:05:49.300 and now and now this. And I think it's it's just like I said, it's enraged so many people.

01:05:55.900 And this is this is what we've been dealing with for for years with Trump. Right. The Russian

01:06:01.380 collusion hoax was we thought maybe we could trust our deep state. Maybe we could believe the

01:06:06.920 allegations against him. There's been a lot of polls that come out that said the American people

01:06:10.800 don't believe in the Russia collusion hoax. They don't believe the Hunter Biden laptop scandal was

01:06:15.640 was a Russian disinformation. And they don't believe the charges against him. Now, there's

01:06:20.620 there's a a complete disillusionment with with our current administration. And well, they got to the

01:06:27.460 point on the latest charges where it's whether they're true or they're not true. They no longer

01:06:30.540 care. It's like we indulged you for four years. You misled us. You lied. You engaged in a political

01:06:36.160 conspiracy telling us it was just a just investigation. And we're done now. We're done.

01:06:41.740 Right. Absolutely. And I also think that Trump has really transformed the Republican base. I've come

01:06:46.280 from a rural town in Wisconsin, sort of similar to the to the place that you talked about, this

01:06:50.800 little town in South Carolina. When Trump comes, there are these massive rallies. This is a rural

01:06:55.500 area. There's not a lot of people that live here. And everyone comes to watch Trump because I think

01:06:59.740 he's also transformed the party and brought in voters, working class voters who used to think this

01:07:04.420 isn't my party. I don't identify with George Bush, with with with, you know, some of these other

01:07:08.380 Republican career politicians. But I do identify with Trump and I do like his rhetoric and I do like

01:07:13.820 what he's saying. And those people are coming out of the woodwork to rally around this man in the wake

01:07:18.560 of this political persecution. Do you think it was a mistake for Ron DeSantis to run this time?

01:07:25.140 Because he was, as I point out, just in January, it was tight. It was tight. Like it there seemed

01:07:32.200 and there's still very well may be a clear lean for him. I mean, I don't know what these other

01:07:36.320 indictments that could possibly come down against Trump might do for, you know, I don't think any

01:07:41.780 of these trials will necessarily happen before the 2024 election. It's an interesting situation

01:07:47.300 because the two of them that have been brought so far, the case in New York is exceedingly weak,

01:07:51.940 but it's in front of a jury that's likely to convict him. And the case in, you know, from Jack

01:07:57.760 Smith at the federal level, which will be tried in Florida, in Miami, is rather strong legally,

01:08:04.400 but it's going to be tried in front of a jury that may like Trump. Right. So it's like it it's hard to

01:08:10.700 predict how it's going to go down. But do you think it was a mistake for Ron DeSantis to run this time

01:08:15.980 because before he announced, before it was sort of clear he was going to run, which predates the

01:08:20.900 announcement, he was a darling of the Republican Party, absolute darling. And now, of course,

01:08:26.580 is in any presidential race. He's getting dinged up a bit. Yeah, I mean, if we're looking toward

01:08:31.840 indictments and how they pan out as a marker of whether or not Ron DeSantis is going to be on the

01:08:36.680 other end of this, then it's probably a sign that he should have maybe waited this one out.

01:08:40.180 I think there was probably nobody on the Republican ticket that would be able to match up to the energy

01:08:46.480 that Trump has and for all the different reasons that we're talking about now. And, you know, he's

01:08:52.000 young, but he doesn't even really have the youthful energy to match up to what Donald Trump is bringing

01:08:57.000 to the stage. So it might have been within his best interest to maybe create a better relationship

01:09:01.560 with Donald Trump himself, wait out this next election cycle and then see what he could do after

01:09:06.440 that. As I said before, he's got a great track record for Florida. A lot of people are very proud of

01:09:11.380 what he's done and Republicans love what he has done in Florida, but they do not love stacking him

01:09:17.080 up against Donald Trump. To me, the thing that bothers me about the whole thing is it does seem

01:09:23.720 like it's going exactly according to the Democrats plan. This is what they wanted. They believe Trump

01:09:28.440 cannot win this time. I know they believe that in 16, too, but they just think he's got too much

01:09:33.520 baggage. He cannot get the addition he needs in those critical swing states in order to get a

01:09:39.960 different result from what happened in 2020, even though that was very, very tight. But they just

01:09:44.120 don't think that he can do it. There's not there's not enough gettable votes for Trump, and therefore

01:09:47.560 Trump must be the GOP nominee. And if the indictments help make that happen, great. If they don't,

01:09:52.720 maybe we'll get him in jail, which is also a nice fallback for us. You know, that's how they're

01:09:56.740 thinking. And it makes me a little suspicious that it's going according to plan. You know, and then I

01:10:01.820 see folks like my friends over the Daily Wire who are definitely much more team DeSantis getting

01:10:07.220 incredibly frustrated. These are honest people who are true conservatives who just think there

01:10:12.280 is no way Trump can win. We're playing into the left's hands. And like this, the playbook is going

01:10:19.960 perfectly. If you are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, if you know. Well, I as a as a political commentator,

01:10:28.120 I go on. People ask me Trump or DeSantis and all the time I I just say I trust the voters and I there

01:10:33.800 could be Democrats that are saying, you know, we're trying to make Trump win so that then

01:10:38.460 win the primaries, then he can go against Biden and inevitably lose. There are, you know, others

01:10:44.000 who are saying the opposite. I think that we should trust the Republican base to elect the primary

01:10:50.180 candidate that they really like, and then they'll actually be motivated to go to the polls and vote

01:10:55.440 in the general. I don't like when I like the Daily Wire. I like what they do. I don't like when they

01:11:00.260 try to tell us what kind of candidate the base should vote for. I think that people are going to

01:11:06.620 decide that for themselves. They're going to weigh their options. They don't need a bunch of talking

01:11:11.460 heads telling them what to do. I think, first of all, it doesn't work. And I think it's bad optics.

01:11:16.100 I think they're going to do they're going to vote for who they want to vote for, irrespective of what

01:11:20.440 Ben Shapiro says, irrespective of what Paul Ryan says, irrespective of what anybody says, they're

01:11:25.660 going to vote for who they want to vote for. And in the end, that's going to be the best candidate

01:11:28.800 to beat Joe Biden. Big gulf between the actual positions of those two men you just mentioned.

01:11:34.960 They may both be in DeSantis' camp, but they're not the same at all on politics. But to your point,

01:11:41.240 there's a woman named Katie Ambrose. She's in her 50s at that South Carolina rally that we showed you

01:11:47.140 the pictures of. She drove four hours to attend the Trump rally. It's her fifth since 2019. And she said

01:11:53.480 explicitly, if Trump is not the candidate, I won't even go vote. You know, that there are a lot of

01:11:59.520 people. I've been saying this in the beginning. They're not Republicans. They're Trumplicans. 1.00

01:12:02.640 And he's the only one who could get them out to vote. And the Republican Party's got to deal with

01:12:06.500 that, too. And if it goes that way and they elect, they dominate Donald Trump and he does fail in the

01:12:12.940 general election, then so be it. You know, if that's what the Republican primary voters say they

01:12:16.820 want, then that's what they're that's what they're going to get. You know, it's like whatever that this

01:12:21.680 ball was put into motion back in 2015. And it may just have to snowball to either, you know,

01:12:27.980 the crash and burn of the Republican Party or Trump's return to the White House triumphantly.

01:12:32.700 And maybe another three Supreme Court justices like the ones he gave us, which wouldn't be so bad.

01:12:38.520 He was out on the campaign trail this week saying, I want them all. You know, I would like I like seven.

01:12:43.760 Maybe I could maybe I could put seven on the Supreme Court. He's like most presidents maybe get one.

01:12:48.160 But I got three. Anyway, I want to talk about what's been happening to Moms for Liberty, a group

01:12:53.860 I love. I love I've spoken to them early on in their tenure as an organization down in Florida,

01:12:58.600 and they've only grown and gotten more popular given the state of our country and how

01:13:02.980 just nasty people are towards parents who are trying to speak up against what's happening in

01:13:07.760 the schools. So Moms for Liberty Liberty does not listen to the hateful people attacking them. 1.00

01:13:13.280 They continue to organize parents to run moms and others for school boards positions. So they have

01:13:18.840 a real seat at the table and changing policies that are hurting kids, whether it's the transgender

01:13:23.360 nonsense, sexuality, you know, America cop bashing like they're the covid mania, you name it. It's a

01:13:31.140 great group. So they had their second annual convention. They call themselves joy, joyful warriors

01:13:37.560 who do not co-parent with the government. Now they have 285 chapters in 45 states.

01:13:42.440 They self-report a membership of approximately 120,000 and they had their big convention in

01:13:49.460 Philadelphia. And the reaction from the mainstream media has been this is basically the proud boys

01:13:57.040 getting together. It's it's a quote hate group that has been labeled a hate group, an extremist group

01:14:03.600 by the Southern Poverty Law Center. And we're still supposed to believe that that group, Southern

01:14:09.760 Poverty Law Center, should be trusted in any way to decide who's hateful. They're hateful. They hate

01:14:16.940 anyone who's not a far left progressive. But they were cited by NPR, by USA Today, by the Washington Post

01:14:23.760 as the authority in saying Moms for Liberty is an anti-government extremist group. But it wasn't just

01:14:31.680 them. We could go down the list. So what do you make of what's happening to Moms for Liberty and 1.00

01:14:37.580 the narrative about them? Oh, well, it's a complete and total witch hunt, as we can tell. As soon as

01:14:43.760 you hear Southern Poverty Law Center, I want everybody to know you should have a red flag up

01:14:47.860 as a leftist. I used to work in tandem with Southern Poverty Law Center. They put up these

01:14:52.200 huge maps of all the hateful extremist groups that are all across America. And now you have to wonder

01:14:57.020 how many of those markers on the map are actually groups like Moms for Liberty who are going out as

01:15:03.480 mothers, as daughters, as sisters, and who are advocating for young children, for them to get a

01:15:08.520 better education, for them to be protected, for their innocence to be protected in this country.

01:15:13.420 This is a relatively docile group of women who are coming together to just have this conversation, 1.00

01:15:19.100 to place themselves in positions of power, to make change for their children's lives.

01:15:23.500 And they're being labeled as extremists. It is really reminding me of all the parents who were

01:15:28.740 heading to school boards to talk about the pornography that was in their students' classes,

01:15:33.400 to talk about the issues of gender theory and gender confusion, being labeled as extremists and

01:15:40.000 domestic terrorists by the DOJ in that letter that they put out. So it's reframing. They're trying

01:15:45.600 to label everybody who has a dissident opinion as an extremist. And people should, when they hear these

01:15:50.860 words, view them with a strong sense of skepticism. Because to me now, the word domestic terrorist or

01:15:57.160 extremist carries no weight whatsoever because it's being used so often to refer to groups like Moms for

01:16:03.220 Liberty. Oh, just to follow up, because you're with Prager Salon, which is a far left publication

01:16:09.600 online there, they get specific on why they object to Moms for Liberty. They point out that they

01:16:14.840 invited, quote, anti-LGBTQ pundits Dennis Prager and James Lindsay. They're mad that they invited

01:16:22.620 Prager. I mean, I guess I'm a hate group, too, because I've had Prager on this show many times.

01:16:26.780 He's a genius. Oh, my gosh. And there's no need to even put out the disclaimers, but I'll do it

01:16:32.180 anyways. Dennis Prager has multiple gay friends. He's the godfather to a child of gay parents. So I

01:16:38.880 don't know how anybody could look at Dennis Prager and label him as somebody who is anti-LGBTQ. But

01:16:44.520 that's what's happening now. If you disagree with one use of their agenda or one use of their opinion

01:16:50.340 or some of the extreme policies that they're trying to push forward, specifically in reference to kids,

01:16:55.260 you are blanketed as an LGBTQ plus extremist who's, you know, anti-trans, anti-lesbian, anti-gay.

01:17:03.280 And I think what they're going to find is a lot of people within the LGBTQ plus community,

01:17:08.360 specifically lesbian, gay and bisexual people are coming forward and saying, wait a second,

01:17:13.420 I listen to Dennis Prager on the radio and he doesn't say anything about my lifestyle or wait

01:17:17.760 a second. I don't agree with some of the stuff you're doing in relation to children and their

01:17:21.580 education. And we need to disband this massive acronym that we've created for no other reason

01:17:27.660 than to lump people together and push a certain agenda. Avita, Southern Poverty Law Center,

01:17:32.640 in discussing why this group is so horrible and hateful, points out former President Donald Trump

01:17:37.180 and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, our top billed speakers at the event. The horror,

01:17:42.360 the two top frontrunners for the GOP nomination. And by the way, Nikki Haley showed up there.

01:17:47.660 Maybe Tim Scott, I'm trying to remember. But just being a Republican is enough to get labeled

01:17:53.080 a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which, as I point out, continues to get cited with

01:17:57.720 favor by organizations like The Washington Post. The veil should have come down on this group

01:18:03.900 long ago when I was at NBC in twenty eighteen. Even they said internally, I'm not sure we should

01:18:08.860 be citing them. Not to me that they were. There's an internal discussion. I'm not sure we should be

01:18:13.680 citing this. Even they were starting to get it back then. But we still have all these mainstream

01:18:16.960 groups holding them up as the final arbiter of who's hateful. Well, forget forget The Washington

01:18:23.200 Post. The FBI did it, too. They cited the Southern Poverty Law Center when they did that horrible

01:18:28.520 document labeling traditional Catholics as white supremacists and extremists who need to be 1.00

01:18:34.960 surveilled by the government and infiltrated, had the church infiltrated by FBI agents. I mean,

01:18:39.660 this is a I love what Amala said about the Southern Poverty Law Center. I think that they are

01:18:44.180 a ridiculous organization used by the left in the media and also in our government to demonize

01:18:51.620 regular Americans who stand in opposition to leftist politics. This is exactly what all of 0.63

01:18:56.300 this is about. And I saw this on college campuses, too. Right. This is this is the leftist playbook.

01:19:00.860 If you say anything that they don't like, they say you're a racist, you're transphobic, you're

01:19:06.020 homophobic. And they do that to control you, because if they can label you with this word and they can

01:19:11.060 make you feel bad, then you start to self-censor to self-censor and you you start to to abide by the

01:19:18.380 framework that they want you to. And the Moms for Liberty is a wonderful organization. I've worked

01:19:23.240 with them at the Federalist, interviewed them, reported on their work. They are a wonderful

01:19:27.580 group of women who said, you know what, we're not going to co-parent with the government. We are going 0.99

01:19:31.640 to take back control of our children's educations and really their minds, because this is what these

01:19:35.940 schools have become is indoctrination machines with with CRT, with these LGBTQ books, with teachers 1.00

01:19:42.140 putting in this this this learning system where they're they're they're doing LGBTQ awareness in

01:19:49.060 math and science and infiltrating it into all parts of of education. This is what these moms are 1.00

01:19:55.220 opposing. This is very reasonable. These were things that as a country we never would have stood for

01:20:00.680 even a decade ago when I was in elementary school. These things were existing. So this is a visceral

01:20:06.000 reaction from moms and dads saying, you know what, we're not going to let our kids be indoctrinated in

01:20:11.240 this way. And I think that is a direct opposition to the left and their plan to to change the the

01:20:18.380 the future generations. And that's why they're labeling them with these ridiculous terms. White 0.73

01:20:24.040 supremacists. It's just so crazy. It's very threatening to them. I thank God for Moms for Liberty.

01:20:29.740 I believe in their mission. They've been successful. I completely agree that the fight is at the local

01:20:35.300 level. Get on the school boards. Make a difference there. It's very hard to do it from a top down. You've got

01:20:40.320 to be right in on the ground floor. And I've looked at them many times and thought good for them,

01:20:44.980 because as much as I agree with them ideologically, I'm not an organizer. It takes a lot to actually

01:20:49.900 organize people and get the troops out there to fight the good fight and get the school board

01:20:54.720 change and all that. And like that's overwhelming. And I think a lot of a lot of I mean, moms in general

01:20:59.460 are busy. They have these little people who really need to take up most of their time. Never mind working

01:21:04.440 moms who have another added layer on top of it. And these women are making it happen. So they're tough. 1.00

01:21:09.440 They can handle this. Literally, I heard horrible stories down there about people smearing feces on

01:21:14.080 the front doors of these women when they started to speak out about some of these issues like during 1.00

01:21:18.160 the covid lockdowns. They're tough. They can take the Southern Poverty Law Center's ridiculous labels

01:21:22.720 any day of the week. Keep going, ladies. Keep going. We got your back. Stand by. When we come back,

01:21:28.300 we have an update for you on Bud Light's latest effort to save its brand. Wait until you see their latest ad.

01:21:39.440 So Bud Light continues to scramble. They're such a hot mess. They don't know what to do.

01:21:44.360 My God, the numbers are just dreadful. Now the sales are down nearly 30 percent, down almost 50 percent

01:21:53.540 from its sales a year ago. OMG. They've lost half of their business in one year thanks to their

01:22:04.360 partnership with Dylan Mulvaney, about which they have apparently been lying from the start

01:22:08.900 because while their CEO wanted us to believe it was one can, one can to one person, one can,

01:22:13.660 and then they released through underlings through the press anonymously, oh, it's just some small

01:22:17.920 no name staffer who sent that beer can, not authorized. We now know that's not true.

01:22:23.080 They fired the head of marketing. They hired the woman who works directly under him, who was behind 0.73

01:22:26.860 the campaign. And now we've had Dylan Mulvaney come out explicitly and say it was a paid partnership.

01:22:33.800 So, OK, it was more than they admitted. Now we saw right after the controversy, they released

01:22:41.700 the horses ad back to the horses and the two sort of country looking guys standing on the

01:22:46.860 front porch. America. Yeah, we get it. Don't worry. We don't think you're fratty. We love

01:22:50.680 you. Didn't work. Not without an apology and an acknowledgement of how they had misstepped.

01:22:55.060 And here is the latest effort to capture the soul of American beer drinkers. Watch this ad.

01:23:01.520 Oh, OK. It's large men grunting as they sit down and it ends with the slogan, Bud Light,

01:23:25.900 easy to drink, easy to enjoy. I guess it's hard to sit when you're a fat American man. That's how

01:23:30.980 back to the we love fratty. OK, well, I don't know what this is. What's trying to telegraph? But

01:23:35.640 I think it's we do love fatty, fatty, fratty American men. And we're there for you because 1.00

01:23:42.780 our beer is super easy to drink. That is unless you care about being humiliated, because you will

01:23:48.420 be if you drink one publicly right now. Evita, what do you think? Is this going to get it done?

01:23:54.900 They what we what they really need to fix this whole brand is to apologize to their consumers and they

01:24:00.580 refuse to do that. I think it was last week that their CEO was on MSNBC and said that he wouldn't

01:24:07.120 take back the campaign with Dylan Mulvaney. This is this is such terrible marketing for their

01:24:14.180 cases. They fired the marketer, but they they haven't apologized to the consumers and they're

01:24:19.520 not going to do it because they'll get punished by the ESG. So the human rights campaign has something

01:24:25.340 called the Corporate Equality Index, which ranks how pro or anti LGBTQ you are. And part of why I 1.00

01:24:33.040 think that they did this partnership with Dylan Mulvaney was to boost their Corporate Equality

01:24:37.160 Index. Well, when they didn't defend Dylan Mulvaney and Dylan Mulvaney actually came out and said,

01:24:42.440 you're not defending me enough. Their numbers tanked and they gave a bunch of money to LGBTQ 1.00

01:24:47.860 groups. And the point of me saying this is that we really don't have the power of the purse

01:24:52.600 because the real controllers of Bud Light and a lot of these other companies are the ESGs are things

01:24:58.700 like the Corporate Equality Index. And and really, we're not going to get that power back. A couple

01:25:03.560 of months of boycotting really isn't going to do that much until there's a way to address these ESGs.

01:25:08.980 I don't know. I don't know. I think this is the consumer telling them where your ESG score now

01:25:13.820 you will listen to us or you will go out of business. I mean, it's getting anhydrous is a huge

01:25:19.120 company, but Bud Light is it's on its last legs. I mean, it has been seriously targeted down. 50%

01:25:24.200 is no small deal. There was a report just out that a glass bottling company called the R-Daw Group,

01:25:29.480 one of the world's largest glass producers, announced last week it was shuttering its

01:25:33.960 Wilson, North Carolina and Simsboro, Louisiana plants, saying they didn't cite a reason for the

01:25:39.500 disclosures or for the closures. But W-R-A-L found that R-Daw was forced to close due to the

01:25:46.980 declining sales of Bud Light, its major contractor, or at least one of its major contractors.

01:25:53.020 They reported that by May 18th, according to an internal memo obtained by the news station,

01:25:57.500 company executives there at R-Daw said they would shut down the two plants, quote,

01:26:01.480 due to slow sales with Anheuser in Bev, the parent company of Budweiser and Bud Light.

01:26:06.320 Look, I don't know that this is save it, but this man's just floundering as he tries to avoid

01:26:14.620 addressing directly what they did isn't working. He either needs to be fired, the CEO, or he needs to

01:26:22.120 do a full fledged mea culpa. He should come on this show. He should release a TikTok, however he wants

01:26:29.760 to do it and let himself get beaten up a bit rhetorically, take the L and explain that he

01:26:37.760 really does get it. But right now we have zero reason to believe he's sorry or he understands

01:26:44.220 why we're still mad. Amala. Yeah, this is an interesting mark on this brand that I don't

01:26:51.220 think is going to be to leave anytime soon. They tweeted out a 4th of July tweet saying it's the 4th

01:26:57.080 of July, enjoy some beer with a Bud Light image, and they got tens of thousands of responses from

01:27:01.920 people who say they will never drink this beer ever again. I do want to point out that, of course,

01:27:06.620 they're stuck between a rock and a hard place, right? If they come out and apologize for having

01:27:10.660 entered this sponsorship agreement with Dylan Mulvaney, then suddenly they are anti-LGBTQ,

01:27:16.040 as Evita said earlier. I'm not sure how that necessarily affects their ESG score, but it certainly

01:27:21.580 is going to set a woke mob of leftists after them and after their brand. What they forgot,

01:27:27.080 was that their main consumer base, however, is not that woke mob of leftists. They're not the

01:27:31.120 ones who are sitting on Saturday night and cracking open a can of Bud Light. And as soon

01:27:35.880 as they lost the mark on who their real consumers are, they lost the whole bag in this marketing

01:27:42.580 campaign. So I'm not sure that even an apology at this point, after all the back and forth they've

01:27:49.160 had, after all the skirting the issue that they've done, is going to bring back this brand. I think

01:27:53.480 this is one that's going to be to be laid in the ground. You know, take a stand, say what you

01:28:02.000 actually feel and what you actually stand for. Don't run from the LGBTQ mob. I think the LGBTQ 0.93

01:28:09.000 mob, there's certainly the LG and B can understand if you come out and say it was a mistake. That was

01:28:15.020 a very controversial person who many women feel is mocking them in their approach to social media

01:28:22.540 and otherwise. They feel offended by his calling himself a girl and prancing around in little girls

01:28:29.160 clothing and declaring himself a woman after one day. I hear it. I get it. People are offended

01:28:37.460 by this particular person's approach to the entire trans issue.

01:28:41.200 I really don't think that even the LGBTQ crowd, maybe the T crowd, but the rest of them 1.00

01:28:47.620 would condemn Bud Light wholeheartedly for something that acknowledged that. But if they

01:28:53.300 don't have the balls to do it, he's too afraid. And if he really wants to be like those two

01:28:57.280 American ranchers he showed in that initial ad after the controversy broke, then he needs

01:29:02.340 to get a whole lot tougher because those guys are out there doing really hard work with their

01:29:07.440 hands every day, dealing with cattle, dealing with horses, dealing with freezing cold conditions,

01:29:13.340 night and day, crack of dawn. And they don't care what people have to say about it. They don't care

01:29:17.580 about social media. They have a mission and they will pursue it and everybody else can be damned.

01:29:22.720 And this guy's got to understand if he wants that to remain his customer base, he needs to speak to

01:29:27.620 them honestly. He needs to reflect their concerns. He doesn't get it. He's not going to get it. He should

01:29:32.760 be fired. That's that's it. He should be fired. So goodbye to Bud Light. In the time we have left,

01:29:38.220 I've talked about what's happened in Philadelphia. There was yet another shooting over the holiday

01:29:45.680 weekend. I'm trying to get the exact statistics here so I don't say the wrong thing. Hold on.

01:29:51.720 Let me find it. What page is this on? I just had it. But of course, I lost it.

01:29:55.760 Um, five dead and the shooter in this particular case is said to have been a cross dresser.

01:30:05.700 Uh, that's as much as we know about this person, that they're a cross dresser. 0.83

01:30:09.760 Um, and they are both pro Trump and pro BLM, according to the writings that you read of this

01:30:16.300 person's online. Um, the police are not officially saying his name. Much of the media is not saying his

01:30:22.260 name at all. I don't say the names of mass shooters on my show for very good reasons that I've explained

01:30:27.160 many times, but it's weird that nobody's saying it. And it leads me to wonder whether there's some

01:30:32.580 sort of protection going on in this particular person who is a man with breasts from that picture

01:30:39.700 and dresses like a woman. Um, the police are calling him they, uh, in the, in the initial statements.

01:30:46.520 And it does make me wonder because I first heard about this on NPR is upfront podcast this morning.

01:30:52.940 And the way they wrote about this particular shooting was about, oh, there was another mass

01:30:57.340 shooting. Uh, I think it's three dead in Fort Worth. There was this mass shooting in Philadelphia,

01:31:02.420 five dead. And this is about gun violence in America. There are too many guns. What are we going

01:31:07.780 to do to stop the guns, the guns, the guns, they did not mention the fact that this person has

01:31:11.880 obviously some gender confusion. And this is one of a series now we've seen of people in the trans

01:31:18.900 community committing mass acts of violence, which I guess we're supposed to ignore the trans ideology 0.99

01:31:25.480 and identity as having nothing to do with it. Um, however, I look at pieces like this one from

01:31:31.580 David Strom and hot air that says, look, being transgender doesn't necessarily make you violent,

01:31:37.260 but he writes, I also think it's not a coincidence that a number of mass shootings lately have been

01:31:41.400 carried out by transgender identifying people. Alphabet ideology radicalizes people and convinces 0.98

01:31:47.780 them that they are hated by and under constant threat from the larger society going on. Unfortunately,

01:31:54.040 a volatile combination has been creating, created, putting people with obvious mental instability

01:31:59.000 in the middle of a culture war battle and nothing good can come from this. Now we don't know what

01:32:05.580 caused this particular person to snap Evita, but when they're trans, it doesn't get mentioned at all.

01:32:11.400 I mean, it gets buried by the mainstream media. Absolutely. And we, Amala and I were on air with

01:32:18.260 you the last, when we, when the Tennessee shooter story broke, that was an awful situation. We still

01:32:24.220 haven't seen the manifesto. We have to be talking about the reasons behind these shootings and the

01:32:30.480 Democrats, they always say guns, guns, guns. And we, we, that's what the entire conversation is always

01:32:36.420 centered around. And there were so many other factors that come into play here. I mean, there is

01:32:41.640 violence normalized and dehumanization normalized in video games and violent movies and, and, and TV

01:32:48.600 shows. You also have a massive mental health problem, especially among Gen Z people. We, this is 0.81

01:32:55.020 the most mentally ill generation to date that has to be taken into consideration. And then you have all 0.90

01:33:00.720 of these prescription drugs over, over prescribing. You have people with gender dysphoria, like the,

01:33:05.380 the person that you quoted before a, an ideology that's telling you that you're hated by the whole

01:33:10.840 world. These are things that we need to be thinking about. The Columbine shooter, one, one of them was on

01:33:16.080 antidepressant drugs that cause suicidal and homicidal ideation that we, we cannot be ignoring

01:33:23.300 these important factors that come into these mass shootings. If we're actually serious about stopping

01:33:28.340 them. Mm hmm. I mean, it's, it's happening over and over, Amal. And I do wonder when is the left

01:33:33.740 going to say, all right, let's be honest about the fact that it is growing in numbers. And there

01:33:38.680 might be a reason behind that, that we're going to have to get real clear on. I just, I don't see

01:33:42.920 them doing that, but how many more have to die before we actually take a look at the messaging

01:33:46.920 and the mental instability of, of obviously a portion of this community? Right. I mean, those are two

01:33:55.680 very good questions. I don't think that they are going to be honest about it because it in no way

01:34:00.000 serves their agenda. If they want to push forward what they're doing right now in children's education

01:34:04.960 with gender confusion and gender theory, if they want to push forward some of the legislation in

01:34:10.560 regard to medical transitioning and blind affirmation, gender care, that's not going to work if these

01:34:16.020 stories continue to come out. So as long as they are pushing that agenda and they haven't met their

01:34:19.680 goals there, these stories are going to continue to be hushed. It was really hard in, in looking into

01:34:24.060 these stories to even find out that this individual was African-American responsible for 0.64

01:34:27.740 the shooting. And it's all because it does not fit their certain agenda. Now they'll say they're

01:34:32.620 worried about more hate being pushed towards trans people if the real story comes out. But what

01:34:37.460 actually creates hate is a lack of transparency. If you are not honest about these things and

01:34:41.740 people's skepticism leads them to find out that this was a cross-dressing male, guess what that is

01:34:46.100 going to create? More hate towards the trans community, more hate towards gender ideology and gender

01:34:50.640 theory. You need to be transparent in these cases and tell it to people straight so that they can

01:34:55.380 make decisions for themselves. Yes, well said. And to your point, Avita, it's been three months

01:35:01.040 since that shooting in Tennessee, in Nashville, three months. And the manifesto has still not been

01:35:06.640 shared. I will say that even the parents of the victims in that case are fighting its disclosure. But

01:35:12.160 you know, with all due respect to them, they don't have the final say on it. It's a matter of public

01:35:16.260 safety. And I do I do believe that we deserve to know and it should be treated responsibly by the

01:35:21.920 press. But we we have a right to know. Ladies, thank you both so much for being here. Really

01:35:26.480 appreciate it. All the best to you. And we will be back tomorrow with Charlie Kirk. Looking forward

01:35:32.080 to that conversation. He's always interesting to talk to. Thanks for listening to The Megan

01:35:38.720 Kelly Show. No BS, no agenda, and no fear.

The Megyn Kelly Show - July 05, 2023

Biden Won't Acknowledge His 7th Grandchild, and White House Cocaine, with Amala Ekpunobi and Evita Duffy-Alfonso ｜ Ep. 581

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