Biden Won't Acknowledge His 7th Grandchild, and White House Cocaine, with Amala Ekpunobi and Evita Duffy-Alfonso ｜ Ep. 581
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Summary
Happy 4th of July! What better way to celebrate than watching the insane hard left cry their tears about their hatred of our country? Megynkelly shares her own holiday traditions and how she and her family celebrate the day.
Transcript
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Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, your home for open, honest, and provocative conversations.
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Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show.
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It's great to be back, and I hope you all had an amazing July 4th holiday.
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I loved every minute of it, every minute of it, and I especially enjoyed watching the insane hard left cry their tears
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about their hatred of our country. I actually did enjoy it.
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People like Cori Bush, who cannot stand America and wanted to make the day about reparations,
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specifically she thinks, well, about $14 trillion should be a good starting point,
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but technically we owe something like $90 trillion to those that we've aggrieved.
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We, those of us who are alive and well here in 2022, as opposed to a couple hundred years ago.
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By the way, they sold their company a few years ago for over $300 million, but they're still pissed off.
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They think it should be a day of atonement toward the Native Americans.
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How about no? How about no? It's not going to be.
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I love how these people are their own worst enemies, making their own lives miserable, right?
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Instead of enjoying a beautiful day like that with a barbecue and the parade and being with the children
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and the sparklers and the fireworks, choosing instead always to see the darkness,
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always to mire themselves in hate and grievance.
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Those of us living patriotic, happy, loving lives need not worry too much about these people.
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They're rageful to a degree well beyond what any of us could ever hope to cause.
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Good luck to them in their aggrieved, frustrated, invariably lackluster lives.
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Just know that the rest of us are having a great time and we will not be doing any of the insane things you demand.
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Here at the Kelly Brunt House on the Jersey Shore, it was a great day of celebration.
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We went big has become our tradition and I had several moments yesterday.
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I surprised myself with this where my eyes actually filled with tears and I actually kind of had to, you know, get a hold over myself.
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I was feeling emotional just about our country, about the incredible honor it is to be an American, how we were founded, what we stand for, what we still stand for.
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We've been hosting these big parties for a few years now, but only for the past two years have we been dressing in colonial costumes and really leaning into the whole founding fathers theme.
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So if you watch that, if you're listening to this now, that's great.
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But go to youtube.com slash Megan Kelly later to see these pictures because they're awesome.
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Now, getting ready for the party is always so much fun.
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Over 100 people come, but about 20 of our friends and family actually dress up and they read or act in our little preamble of a play before we read the declaration.
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We have a costume party at the end of the year often.
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But this one I and people get their own costumes for this one.
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I get the costumes because it's a lot to actually ask of people to deal.
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And I have a great, great costume shop that I go to.
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We play patriotic music while people are trying on the costumes.
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Among those who participated this year and last are Allison and Tom Barkledge.
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We brought you the story in the fall about their son, Blake Barkledge, who died at age 17 suddenly of myocarditis, of a heart related issue.
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They still don't know exactly what caused the myocarditis.
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But the family, including their daughter, Lexi, has been an example to us all on how to heal after trauma.
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But they came and if they can find a way to smile, you know, through a time like this, it's only been a year plus since they lost their son.
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You can find a reason to celebrate our country, our friends, our family, the way we live.
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We're we're so, so lucky to have been born here, to have the opportunities we have here.
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The country's not perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than you're going to find any place else.
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So the day and the prep is festive and it gets you in the mood to celebrate America with your friends and your family.
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My little guy still says it in his elementary school, and I really appreciate that.
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I used to say it every day growing up in school that we used to have to sing my country tis of thee.
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And over time sort of sinks in what those words mean.
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And then we do this little play, as I said, about how the American rebellion got started all those years ago.
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What led to the decision to declare our independence?
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The anger over how unfairly the king was treating his subjects here.
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We put it together and then we rewrite it year to year with the help of family and friends who add new scenes or what have you.
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But the point is just to remind people of why the USA came into existence.
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You know, they don't teach us stuff in school anymore.
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We want the littles, including our own children, to hear it.
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I was saying to a friend yesterday, it's like teaching manners to a child.
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You just got to do it over and over and over and over and over.
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Hopefully these kids and others, you know, adults, too, who hear it over and over and over,
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will come to remember it and internalize it in a way that is important.
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We write in the play scenes that sort of show what we were trying to avoid in forming our own union,
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a government that was overreaching, that disrespected the rights of its citizens,
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that interfered with the judiciary, that denied the public important rights like a trial by jury.
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And what the vision was for how things could be.
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In our little play, we had Thomas Paine there, who wrote Common Sense and Inspo for the Declaration.
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And with our friend Andrew, as John Adams enacted a little scene.
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Five of us got together and drafted a statement of principles.
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John Adams, Robert Livingston, Ben Franklin, Roger Sherman, and I, Thomas Jefferson.
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When they asked me to write what we were referring to as the Declaration of Independence,
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my first thought was that John Adams would be a much better choice.
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Because I am obnoxious, also suspected, and very unpopular.
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Then came the reading of the Declaration, which really is an inspirational document,
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If you didn't take the time yesterday to read it, go do it.
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And it really will make you understand what people were upset about and honestly are getting
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It is an honest acknowledgement of how man's default tends to be to put up with hard things
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An acknowledgement that God, not government, has granted us certain unalienable rights like life,
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That writes, quote, that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
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deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed.
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That they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
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That among these there are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
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That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men,
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deriving their powers from the consent of the governed.
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When we finished the reading, I should point out that among those who read and were our
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honored guests were two guys you may know very well.
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Rich Lowry and Michael Brendan Doherty of National Review came.
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We invited Charles C.W. Cook, too, but he's busy on his golf cart down in Florida where he
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Here are the three of us all dressed up and ready to go.
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They kicked it off and ended the reading of the Declaration, respectively, and did a great
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It was super fun to have them here and to meet their families.
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And after we finished the reading, we broke right into America.
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The beautiful, as as I told you, we did the other day in church.
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That was that was my inspiration for that moment.
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And it was so great to look out at all the friends and family and hear them singing.
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The beautiful, for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain, for purple mountains' majesty,
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America, America, God shed his rights on me, and crown thy good with brotherhood, from sea
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See, you don't have to be a good singer or be perfect on the words.
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You just have to have your heart in the right place.
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I want to tell you what happened next and a side story that I hope you will appreciate.
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I told the audience, the guests, their friends, our family, that we had a surprise plan and
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And what happened next was something that I've been working on with Abby for six months.
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So six months ago, I said to Abby, Abs, I want a marching band at the 4th of July party.
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And she said, MK, OK, but that's that's that's going to take a lot.
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And honestly, you know, I make a good living, as you've probably seen in the paper, but
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But when something like this comes up, an idea like this, this is where I want to spend.
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Like a moment like this, that that we can have as a community and share together and
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that will bring up stirring feelings of patriotism, of love, of joy, of just I don't know how
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to say it other than just a deep connection to your country and your fellow man.
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So a couple of months went by and I said, Abs, how's it going?
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You know, there's no marching bands like available for hire and like college bands have gone home
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And Abby never says, MK, it can't be done to me.
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You know, I put my hand on her shoulder and I said, Abby, I know you can do this.
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And because you got to know Abby, she she will bust through brick walls to make things
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happen if she knows they're really, truly important to me.
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And before I knew it, she had assembled a band.
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I won't say what school they're from because they're not like they're not supposed to have
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And they didn't have a school endorsement, but they're available, available for this
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kind of thing because they couldn't wear their school uniforms.
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So Abby found uniforms that I and we chose very patriotic uniforms, red, white and blue.
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And the amount of logistics she had to go through to make this happen.
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We got them food and pizza and drinks and so on.
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They were waiting for the cue until we finished God Bless America.
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You heard the sounds of the drum beats as they marched toward our party.
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And the crowd was just slack jawed watching this performance.
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They were playing off of sheet music that they had, you know, sort of on their instruments.
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Hats off to these young college kids who just made our hearts sing yesterday.
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I could not have been more impressed, more grateful.
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And I have to tell you, Abigail Finan is a star.
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You know, she's my assistant, but she's also like my little sister.
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And it's just an opportunity to stop and say thank you to the people who support me and
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help make things like this possible and help me bring these memories to you and hopefully
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inspire you to take a moment to think about your life and your connection with our country
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This whole thing turned into a connection with friends, with neighbors, with loved ones,
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a chance to think about America, our history here, what it means to us.
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And I come into this day with you renewed, happy, more settled and more certain in my
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own love of country and my gratitude for having been born here and living right now in an important
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When I sat there, I listened to that band playing the national anthem, among other songs.
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I was thinking about how you, the audience on this show, my team on this show, and I are
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out there every day on the front lines fighting for this country.
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What we're doing together, why you tune in, you listen, you take time out of your busy
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days to listen and connect with me and the guests here is because you care to you care.
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Otherwise, there's a million other things you could be doing.
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We're all out there fighting for the heart of our country and what we stand for, what we
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And I think it's an important mission we're all on.
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So on that note, it is a packed news day and we're going to take a deep dive into many
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subjects, including where the Hunter Biden investigation stands.
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And I don't mean the cocaine found at the White House or do I do I?
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Plus, what does it say that President Joe Biden, as he lectures us about the importance
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of fatherhood, continues to refuse to acknowledge he has a seventh grandchild?
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And we are excited to have Amala Epanobi, host of Unapologetic Live, and Federalist writer
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Amala, Evita, thank you so much for being here.
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I sat in the window of my apartment just watching people put on their fireworks and eating ice
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Well, we went big, but you don't have to go big.
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I was talking to my my friend Kat when I'm down here at the shore.
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And she was saying, you know, she's hung out with her family.
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They've spent some time together, you know, had some ice cream.
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You know, it's like everybody takes it in in their own way.
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You know, on this one, I just decided go big or go home.
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So let's kick it off with the America haters like Cori Bush.
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I remember growing up and as a young child, when July 4th came around, everybody was celebrating.
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We were having parties over these things and really taking a moment to talk about this nation's history,
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why it's a nation built on ideas and not a certain race or a certain gender or a certain religion or creed.
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And to hear that all rolled back in the name of, you know, racial justice or gender equality or reparations in order to have these conversations on a day where we should be able to sit back.
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And like you said, acknowledge how beautiful this country really is, how much progress we've made.
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And it just is not the right time for it, in my opinion.
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Could we please take a moment to acknowledge that we live in a country where we're capable of just outwardly having these conversations,
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where we as citizens can express these opinions that we disagree on, where we have the free speech right to do so.
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And I don't see the Fourth of July having a comeback anytime soon with the sort of rhetoric we have surrounding America at large.
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Mm hmm. If you've got Representative Jamal Bowman, I mentioned Cori Bush, also Democrat, but Jamal Bowman, Democrat from New York, tweets out this July 4th.
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We must remember that we stand on stolen land, toiled by enslaved Africans and recommit ourselves to the fight for freedom, equality and justice and on and on.
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It went. The Ben and Jerry's guys, I mentioned them, too.
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It's high time. We recognize that the U.S. exists on stolen indigenous land and commit to returning it.
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OK. And our friend, Joseph Massey, everybody loves him.
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He's a he's our favorite poet. He's been on the show many times.
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We refused to let him be canceled and he's thriving now.
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You should go ahead and support him online on Amazon.
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But he tweeted out first, you need to apologize to the millions of cows you milk without consent.
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Your product is colonialist misogyny in the form of an overpriced dessert.
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This is the only way forward. You have to laugh at these people.
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I agree. You do have to laugh at them and they hate that.
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Right. I mean, comedy is like their their greatest enemy.
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Right. Of the left. They hate being made fun of.
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I like what Amala said, that this is just not the time we I'd like one break from the racial
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the racial justice, from the the the gender queer theory and the indigenous rights and every
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all of the American shame narrative that we're constantly bombarded with all the time.
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It'd be nice if we could have one day of reprieve on the fourth, if we could come together as a
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country and say, OK, despite our flaws, we're all we're all proud to be Americans.
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We can all unite under one thing and they can't.
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And I agree that when I was younger, I remember growing up and thinking America is wonderful
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and stars and stripes and this is the greatest country on earth.
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And after 2020, I had this real realization that really not everybody thinks that way.
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And there is a massive movement in America to tear down our founding fathers, to demonize
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them, to take down statues that we once revered.
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Everybody from George Washington, Abraham Lincoln is a is a sign of racism and imperialism
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And I what I like to talk about is the reason why they're doing this, because we we say,
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oh, well, it's bad that they're America haters, American shame.
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They want to create a cultural revolution like they had in China.
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Really, that's the reason for demonizing our founding fathers, that that's the way that
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they change the culture, that they change our our mythos and what we believe in as a country.
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They have to tear down our heritage, our traditions and our history in order to create cultural
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And it makes me so sad because, like Amla said, I grew up thinking America is great.
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And then there was this 2020 disaster that happened that really made me and I think a
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I love how they pretend that, you know, had the Native Americans just been left alone here
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and America had never been born, the United States of America, the world would be better
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I think they were really grateful for the fact that there was a United States of America
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and things might have gone a different way had we not been formed.
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And I love how we pretend that the Native Americans were living totally peacefully over here and
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were not committing any violence before we got here.
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I mean, in country after country, there have been others who have come in and conquered and
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I mean, that is kind of how countries get born.
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It's not that we were perfect or that we can be proud of every piece of that history.
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But like the decision to focus on that as America's legacy, on what we're about, is just
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so unnecessarily myopic, you know, small minded.
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And it is, to your point, part of an agenda of it.
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And Amala, it's actually become a thing now where, like, you should be ashamed if you
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The New York Times had this absurd article called No Sparklers for These Folks.
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And it kicks it off by talking about how, talks about this woman, Malaya Tapp, who grew up
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in Arkansas, who used to love celebrating the 4th with her family.
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But now that she's an adult, she's 18, entering college next year, commemorating the holiday
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Started with Black Lives Matter, which caused her to lose a lot of her patriotic feelings.
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Uh, now it's hard to tell the difference between guns and fireworks, uh, and fireworks, she
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Then they go to Marissa Vivori, 29, a tech product manager in Manhattan, who writes about
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how the last time she celebrated the 4th of July, a few summers ago, because she doesn't
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She was going off to the Hamptons, straight out of Central Casting.
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Uh, and she sat on the, uh, on the most packed Long Island railroad train ever.
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And she realized at that moment, she never loved this holiday.
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She writes, she tells the New York Times, I remember even as a kid feeling bad for the
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And that really made me less inclined to celebrate.
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And the Times adds, even if she wanted to celebrate, she would worry about the message it sent.
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What does the future look like with these people in charge?
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I'm looking at something that is no fun whatsoever.
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You never get a moment to just simply have fun with your family.
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And Megan, what that whole story points out for me is a certain lens through which this
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And it is really not to her benefit whatsoever.
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And it's a lens through which I used to look through.
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Where can I find where people or animals or the environment is being harmed?
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And if you're constantly looking at the world through that lens, you will find injustice and
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racism and white supremacy and patriarchy everywhere you look, because that is the result
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That is the way that you are looking at the world.
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And it sucks because it seems like she got robbed of something, probably partially through
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She recognizes a time where she used to love the Fourth of July, where she used to have
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And at some point through, I guess, talking about this nation's transgressions, she decided
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that that's no longer the way she felt about that holiday.
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And she must be reminded that to acknowledge a nation's transgressions is to acknowledge
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There's a reason that she's here today to be able to talk about all these political qualms.
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There's a reason that America is a melting pot.
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There's a reason we went through all these moments of strife.
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And it's to be where we are today in order to have these sorts of conversations about our
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So it seems like delusion has taken place here.
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I think these people really revel their grief in their grievance.
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You know, it's like there's something like the same sort of hit people high.
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People get off of like a hit of cocaine or meth or whatever their drug of choice is.
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That's the same thing these grievance mongers get from leaning into their perceived status
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And that brings me to this Washington Mystics guard, Natasha Cloud.
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She received a scholarship to play at the University of Maryland that she transferred to play for
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St. Joseph's University, was drafted into the WNBA.
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She's married to a professional softball player.
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And instead of being grateful for all of these opportunities that she's gotten in this country,
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And instead of using our resources to make it better, we continue to oppress marginalized groups
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that we've targeted since the beginning of times.
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We are too powerful to still be attacking these issues separately.
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I'm cleaning up her language here a little bit.
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This person who I guess dropped out of the WNBA in during the George Floyd protests, she said,
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I'm not going to participate in the upcoming season.
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I want to instead focus my energy on helping BLM.
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I'm making this sacrifice for what I believe in.
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Converse stepped in, promising to cover the entirety of her salary, her entire salary.
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Oh, the sacrifice she made to focus on her goals.
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She only put her career on hold for one season.
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And then she signed a multi-year contract with the Washington Mystics again, where I'm sure she's
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And her response to all of this opportunity and help from companies like Converse to support
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her and her in her ability to say how she feels, even if it's extremely negative about the
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I think there was a song by Toby Keith that came out in 2021 where he's it's called Happy
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Birthday, America, where he says no one's burning the American flag in the streets more
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than more than your children, more than Americans.
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I think that that is such a sad testament to where we are emotionally as a country, patriotic.
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But also just the the the privilege that you brought up is so interesting because this is
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a woman who's had every opportunity given to her in the world.
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And even as she's taking this sacrificial, a supposedly sacrificial step to help BLM, now
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I also think about Brittany Greiner, who, you know, meltdown for the national anthem and
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then she gets gets jailed in Russia and the Americans pull through and get her out.
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And there wasn't much gratitude there or an apology for for the way that she dissed on
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the United States and our country and our values and who we are after they they got
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Let's think about Michelle Obama is someone else who is a very privileged woman of color
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who who's been very successful in America as a first lady and is saying that she's struggled
00:28:48.060
with all this racism in her life and all these problems.
00:28:51.040
Meanwhile, there are there are a lot of white people in Appalachia who who are much less
00:28:55.280
privileged than Michelle Obama or Barack Obama who went to an Ivy League school.
00:28:58.340
So there is a lot of disconnect, I think, with in America, a lot of privilege from people
00:29:04.540
who claim to be victims. And it is killing our country. It is it's it's rotting you from
00:29:09.120
the inside. It's a terrible mentality to have to always feel like you're a victim.
00:29:13.180
You're never going to feel satisfied in your life, feel successful, feel feel at peace when
00:29:19.300
you're constantly playing this victim Olympics game.
00:29:23.140
You know, Brittany Greiner, not only did we go get her back despite her America hating,
00:29:28.280
we traded this Russian arms dealer for her. We had him in custody.
00:29:31.640
We gave him up to make sure she had her freedom. And honestly, like we went back and we got our
00:29:37.020
girl like she's an American. We got her. We did what we need. And still you get comments like
00:29:42.320
this, like from a fellow WNBA or America's trash. And this is what led Ennis Cantor freedom.
00:29:48.560
He's been on the show, former basketball player, pro pro player who now is an American citizen.
00:29:53.900
He writes, just ask your colleague Brittany Greiner how trash America is. Great point. Right.
00:29:58.920
Calling America trash. Let me know when your season's over. I'll buy you a ticket
00:30:03.080
and we can go together to countries like China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba and
00:30:09.000
Turkey. He finishes up by saying people have no idea how lucky and blessed they are to be in a
00:30:13.760
country like America. I'm not saying America is perfect, but trust me, you don't want to see the
00:30:18.440
other side. That's exactly right. You know, and by the way, Brittany Greiner got back Avita and
00:30:23.460
played in her first, I think, WNBA game. And her coach was like, this is bullshit. The arena's not
00:30:31.520
filled. Where is everybody? Why aren't they? You know what? We did the right thing by Brittany
00:30:36.700
Greiner, but she refuses to celebrate us. Yes, she softened on it now. She she's changed her
00:30:41.700
had a change in heart. She now stands for the national anthem. But forgive us if we're not rushing
00:30:45.960
to stand and applaud her because this person who used to hate our country and cost us an arms dealer
00:30:51.620
who was in custody here was wrong for most of her professional career and life. So, no, we're glad
00:30:59.600
she's back. We're not going to show up and cheer her. And yet, you know, you've got people who are
00:31:04.360
still feeling entitled like we're supposed to be clapping for Brittany. I guess we're supposed to clap
00:31:08.980
for this person, for this again, Natasha Cloud. I've never heard of this person when she plays for
00:31:14.860
the Washington Mystics. You know, as we've been saying, it's a no. I'm a lot. It's a no.
00:31:21.620
It absolutely is. And it's you know, I think we're watching overarchingly the decline of American
00:31:27.340
sports. These sports players all over our country are complaining about the state of America while
00:31:32.980
sitting in one of the most privileged spots that you can possibly be in. When we're talking about
00:31:37.320
these female athletes, I'm reminded of LeBron James, one of the most successful black men in
00:31:41.820
the United States of America, who is constantly crying about his own oppression and the oppression
00:31:48.040
of black Americans in this nation, putting down police officers, even though he's living in,
00:31:54.760
you know, millions and millions of dollars worth of, you know, real estate here in the United States
00:32:00.400
of America. They all get to enjoy this country from really the highest of towers. And yet they sit
00:32:07.800
and complain about what exactly. I'm really confused. And it was yeah, it was a personal experience that I
00:32:15.220
went through to as a leftist going, you know what, as a black person and as a female, I'm oppressed in
00:32:19.740
this nation, even though I had never really experienced it, even though I enjoyed an abundance
00:32:24.240
of privilege in this nation. You are so convinced by the narrative and you derive such fuel and power
00:32:30.720
and meaning from these sort of narratives of depression of oppression that you attach yourself
00:32:38.080
to them, regardless of where you go in life, even if you become a multimillionaire,
00:32:42.420
successful athlete. But you are such the exception. You you are willing to question your own beliefs.
00:32:49.880
That is exceedingly rare, sadly. And but you were willing to be persuaded by facts, by logic,
00:32:56.220
by alternate arguments if they resonated with you. You know, that's just not true of somebody like
00:33:01.660
LeBron James. I guess he and Michelle Obama, as you put it and Meghan Markle and Oprah, I guess
00:33:06.980
they're going to get some of Cori Bush's 14 trillion dollars in reparations. Sure. Right. Okay.
00:33:12.800
We'll just see about that. All right. Stand by, ladies. We'll be right back after this quick, quick break.
00:33:21.440
All right, ladies. So there's Coke at the White House. They actually found cocaine at the Biden White
00:33:29.320
House. And somehow it managed not to be the biggest story everywhere and all the mainstream media,
00:33:34.380
though I suspect it would have been different had it been the Trump White House or in fairness,
00:33:39.300
even the Obama White House that would have had tongues wagging. But I guess because Joe Biden is
00:33:44.460
200, we've just decided it's definitely not his. And the son's a drug addict. So whatever. We don't
00:33:51.840
care. I mean, what if there's Coke at the White House and they found it in the West Wing, in one of the
00:33:57.440
working areas of the West Wing, they originally said the library. And that was convenient because they
00:34:01.080
could have said, oh, it was a member of the public. But then they had to admit, no, it was actually found
00:34:05.440
in the West Wing, in the working area of the West Wing. I don't know. We all suspect Hunter. Let's be
00:34:11.560
honest. He was there two days earlier. He was there two days later. Does anybody really believe he's
00:34:18.000
totally clean and sober and, you know, hasn't had any falls off the wagon? I don't know. But we've gotten
00:34:23.440
precious few details out of the White House or the press on this. Ari Fleischer was asking good
00:34:32.140
questions. He was, of course, a former press secretary under President Bush. And he was saying
00:34:35.900
where we're in the West Wing. We're entitled to know. Was it in the situation room? Was it in the
00:34:40.920
Oval Office? Like where whose office was it in? We can get more specific and we deserve to to have
00:34:46.440
those specifics on this. Yeah, I would agree with you there and agree with him there. I think they're
00:34:52.080
going to be working, you know, PR angle on this one, trying to figure out what's the best possible
00:34:56.500
position that they could place this cocaine in, which just blows my mind that we're even talking
00:35:00.600
about this right now. But the way that I'm thinking about it is in order to get into the White House,
00:35:05.240
don't you have to go through very extensive security checks? Aren't they, you know, checking
00:35:10.120
people's pockets? I've heard on the news that it's hard to even get your own personal wallet into the
00:35:14.800
White House, let alone cocaine and who even knows how much. So I'm thinking this would have to be a
00:35:19.840
person who maybe they wouldn't check on or has a certain amount of privilege where they can get
00:35:23.840
through without those checks being made. Hunter Biden, wink, wink. But it's just wild to me that
00:35:30.360
they're not coming out with very direct answers on this. And it just leads me to believe that they
00:35:34.880
need to sort of clean up the edges on this one a little bit, decide who they can implicate in this
00:35:39.460
or if they can get away with, you know, falsifying some story where nobody's implicated because this
00:35:44.680
is a bad look for this administration, especially with all of the other things that are going on
00:35:49.800
with Biden and Hunter Biden. Well, especially exactly, because we just saw him get a slap
00:35:55.640
on the wrist, Evita, for his tax evasion, for his falsified gun application, saying he wasn't an
00:36:02.740
addict when we knew that he was, you know, these drug crimes that his father's tried to punish
00:36:07.180
everybody else for. But I guess when it comes to Hunter, he gets a pass. Now, this is not to say that
00:36:11.760
this is Hunter's cocaine. That was a joke. We have no idea whose it is. But somebody in the White
00:36:16.420
House had cocaine. And so it'd be great to see him show the same sort of zealot, zealous attitude
00:36:22.320
toward the law enforcement, toward his own staff or who knows whoever's in that White House,
00:36:28.320
as he's shown toward private citizens. Right. And alarm bells are totally going off in my mind and
00:36:35.440
should be everybody else's that they're not telling us exactly where this cocaine was found.
00:36:40.280
This has been a wild ride for the White House. I mean, you have, first of all, cocaine found.
00:36:46.740
Then a few weeks ago, you had naked transgenders at an official White House lawn event. And then you
00:36:53.980
have this Hunter Biden investigation and Biden investigation and these IRS whistleblowers
00:36:59.640
implicating the whole family in collusion with the DOJ and their tax crimes and getting money from
00:37:08.520
from the Ukrainians and the Chinese businessmen. I mean, this is just a wild week for the White
00:37:15.360
House and continuing on for months now. So I think that this is really purposeful that they're not
00:37:20.500
telling us what's going on. This is always what they do. This is what they did with the IRS
00:37:25.960
investigation. I'm sorry, the IRS whistleblowers. Right after they came out with their testimonies,
00:37:32.120
you had a bunch of media stories. You had the Russian potential coup that ended up not being a
00:37:37.640
coup. And then you had this submarine explosion that they didn't tell us actually exploded until
00:37:42.400
way later. This is what the media does all the time to cover up for their political allies and
00:37:47.820
particularly this Biden administration. And it's really disgusting. And I think all of us should be
00:37:53.240
asking, where was this cocaine found? Who had it? And continue asking these questions because if we
00:37:58.160
don't hold the White House and the media accountable, they will continue to lie to us and stonewall us
00:38:03.540
until they until we hopefully all forget it. Well, let's let's be realistic. There are cameras
00:38:09.460
covering every inch of the White House. I mean, there's no way that there is any public area that
00:38:14.060
is accessible by staff, never mind visitors, that they don't have on camera. So this should not be too
00:38:18.880
hard to solve. And we deserve an answer. We deserve to know who was it? Was it some high level policy
00:38:24.460
person who's on drugs inside the White House? Was it a member of the first family? Was it some low
00:38:29.840
level staffer? And how on earth did they get coke into the people's house? I want answers to all
00:38:34.580
these things. This I should point out just hit from CBS saying reports that the illicit drug was
00:38:41.360
allegedly found in a common area storage facility cubby where White House staff and guests regularly store
00:38:49.760
their cell phones. Additionally, a source familiar with the ongoing investigation. So that single
00:38:55.220
source unnamed said that the substance was found in a small dime sized bag. That's according to NBC
00:39:01.480
News. Now, listen, you really want us to believe that some guest who was forced to store his phone
00:39:08.660
in a cubby took out his dime bag of coke and shoved it in there right next to his phone? Like, oh,
00:39:14.860
I got to take everything out of my pockets and store bullshit. That's not true. That's not how
00:39:19.740
this happened. So hopefully we're going to get actual answers here. But it's like it's back to
00:39:26.300
the old, you know, the press needs to get aggressive on this and actually get us answers, because truly
00:39:31.400
there is a possibility that somebody who's important is actually taking drugs inside of our White House
00:39:37.020
while they work on U.S. policy. And we are entitled to know. Oh, I mean, 100 percent. We're entitled
00:39:42.980
to know much of the goings ons within the White House. And it's just unfortunate that I feel we're
00:39:47.460
probably not going to get to the bottom of this. They're very good with, you know, covering their
00:39:51.520
asses and making sure we don't find out what we truly need to know here. And we all know. I mean,
00:39:56.380
let's be honest, there's probably a lot of debauchery that happens within these political circles
00:40:00.720
amongst these officials and these administrators. So I'm not at all surprised to have heard that there is
00:40:06.820
cocaine. I'm just surprised really about the location of the cocaine. I imagine if we did a full
00:40:12.160
scale investigation, we'd find a lot more illicit drugs than just that. Well, apparently the Secret
00:40:17.180
Service saw it like they were walking through and they saw it like, holy. And they had a test and it
00:40:21.160
was coke. I mean, I thought I threw a rager on the Fourth of July. I had no idea what Joe Biden's doing
00:40:26.040
at the White House, like their next level over there. As far as I know, none of my guests was on drugs.
00:40:33.260
We got high the old fashioned way with music and good company.
00:40:37.120
Okay. So speaking of Joe and Hunter Biden and their beautiful relationship, he puts Hunter out
00:40:44.300
in the White House balcony on July 4th. Is it just me or I'm offended by that? I don't want to see
00:40:49.720
Hunter Biden on the White House balcony. The guy's a hot mess. He's broken more laws than,
00:40:55.140
you know, I can count. He's given a pass. He just got a sweetheart deal. He's been taking advantage of
00:40:59.560
his dad's relationship to power for the better part of two decades now. And I got to look at this guy
00:41:04.980
standing out there on the White House balcony. I know he loves his son. I'm sick of it. I don't
00:41:08.720
want to look at his face. He's corrupt. He's disgusting. He's a criminal. All right. Hunter
00:41:13.600
Biden is a criminal and has no business being up on that White House balcony. But he loves his son.
00:41:20.140
So we're supposed to just say it's fine, Evita. It's fine.
00:41:23.700
Well, I wonder if the reason that Biden is keeping him so close, because you're right,
00:41:28.140
it is such a bizarre look for the White House to have this criminal son up on public display 24 seven.
00:41:34.040
And apparently he actually even lives at the White House. I wonder if the reason they're doing this,
00:41:38.820
the reason Biden has chosen to keep his son at the forefront is because he wants him close by,
00:41:43.640
because he's been such a problem. He needs to keep him under control and make sure he's got eyes on
00:41:49.360
the balcony celebrating the fourth. And he's like, holy shit, where's Hunter? Get him out.
00:41:53.480
He's could be down at the White House cubbies again. Get him. Get him up here.
00:41:57.440
Right. I mean, who knows? I mean, this is a this is a very troubled man who's had a lot of
00:42:01.680
problems in his life and has implicated the entire Biden family in a massive crime scheme.
00:42:05.560
So it makes sense to me why his dad would be like, you know what? I need to keep you close by.
00:42:11.040
Yeah, well, that's I mean, a new kind of helicopter parenting, if so.
00:42:16.500
Here's the other thing a lot. They're really tight up there. The Biden family, super tight,
00:42:22.120
super loving, super, super close, unless you were the product of an extramarital relationship
00:42:27.760
with a stripper, in which case you don't exist. So Joe Biden has seven grandchildren, not six.
00:42:33.880
He's got a little granddaughter named Navy who he refuses to acknowledge. His wife refuses to
00:42:39.100
acknowledge. And the father of that little girl, Joe Biden's son, Hunter, refuses to acknowledge.
00:42:46.520
I'll just give you a flavor on how Joe Biden talks about his very, very close
00:42:50.140
family, including his six, not seven grandchildren. Sot one.
00:42:56.260
We have we have grandchildren and children. I have six grandchildren and I'm crazy about them.
00:43:04.080
I speak to them every single day. My oldest granddaughter, her name is Naomi. I have number
00:43:10.480
two. Her name is Finnegan. And number three nickname we call her is Maisie Natalie. And she is a senior
00:43:19.880
in high school about to graduate. And then I have a grandson who's going to be a senior in high
00:43:25.860
school. And now I have a new a new baby boy. He's three and a half years old. He's Bo Biden. So guess
00:43:34.880
what? They're crazy about me because I pay so much attention to them. And only them has not even spoken
00:43:44.260
this granddaughter's name, even though they say, Amala, that her mother has told the little girl
00:43:52.180
who's now four that Hunter Biden is her father and that the president of the United States is her
00:43:58.400
grandfather. She has never met either one of them. Again, her name is Navy. Her mother's name is London
00:44:06.560
Roberts, who's 32. And The New York Times went down to its credit finally and profiled the mother and
00:44:14.120
daughter. This is, you know, Joe Biden tries to sell himself as the example of father and grandfather
00:44:20.320
extraordinaire. Yeah, it's when I see that video of Hunter Biden on the balcony, I'm thinking you
00:44:26.820
have some other family members that you should be, you know, giving a call to or getting closer to
00:44:30.840
rather than Hunter Biden here. It's very interesting to watch this story unfold. And more so than anything,
00:44:36.220
I just feel sad for this young child. Right. If you are a four year old who knows of your father's
00:44:41.780
existence, knows that your grandfather is the president and you are living in a less than
00:44:45.800
privileged life, as detailed by The New York Times, I believe you're watching, you know, other kids get
00:44:51.620
the attention and the privilege that you really deserve by virtue of being born the daughter of
00:44:58.320
Hunter Biden. So I can imagine that there's a lot of sadness here as as a young girl watching this. I grew
00:45:05.820
up without a father for much of my life. And that's what a father that I had met that I had spent time
00:45:10.480
with. Imagine never having that opportunity while seeing him on TV, seeing him gallivant around with
00:45:16.100
your your grandfather and just looking at the life that they are leading while you are here without
00:45:21.920
your your father or your grandfather. It's just a really devastating story. I'm really in the back
00:45:28.240
of my mind, hoping that, you know, she's at a young age right now where this isn't going to be cemented
00:45:32.620
as some sort of trauma for her. And hopefully they will come together, build some sort of healthy
00:45:37.360
relationship. Although I don't know what sort of healthy relationship you can have with a man like
00:45:41.680
Hunter Biden, who is engaging in this sort of activity, who is hiring prostitutes, who is doing
00:45:45.980
drugs. It's just really a sad, sad story. Who made it a deal term when he got pinched by the court to
00:45:51.920
finally pay the paternity, I mean, the child support that he owes, who made it a deal term that this
00:45:57.580
little girl not use the Biden name. He insisted that she not use the Biden name, even though he is her
00:46:02.780
father. And she has every right to do that. I don't know how that wound up being a deal term.
00:46:07.320
He wanted his twenty thousand dollars a month child support payment lowered because he said he
00:46:11.480
doesn't have the money because he's run out of the Chinese and Ukrainian money now, Evita.
00:46:15.380
So they lowered it. And in exchange, he said, OK, we can have some of my paintings.
00:46:19.740
So now this mother has to sell some of the Hunter Biden paintings. This, as we're told in strategy
00:46:25.740
meetings, aides are being told at the White House that the Bidens have six, not seven grandchildren.
00:46:32.220
And that is the official line, as more and more people are wondering whether this is going to get
00:46:38.040
saddled around Joe Biden every time he tries to tout what a wonderful family man he is.
00:46:43.880
And this is what the media has actually been enabling this. Finally, the New York Times were
00:46:47.640
right. They did do a profile on it. People magazine did a story just a while ago that said,
00:46:52.420
meet Biden's six grandchildren. He has seven grandchildren, and one of them is Navy Roberts,
00:46:57.480
and she's been denied her her family name. They're so embarrassed of this adorable little
00:47:03.420
girl that they won't even let her use the Biden family name. I think that's such a sad
00:47:07.340
situation and a horrible testament to the kind of people the Bidens are.
00:47:14.440
In twenty twenty three, this year for Father's Day, Joe Biden issued the following proclamation.
00:47:19.180
I read it in part. Fathers are critical to raising the next generation and to teaching their daughters
00:47:23.280
and sons about values that matter most. They demonstrate responsible fatherhood and foster
00:47:28.340
healthy perspectives on things like masculinity. He goes on to say, my dad taught me that above all,
00:47:34.660
family is the beginning, middle and end. A lesson I've passed down to my children and grandchildren.
00:47:40.960
You're a fraud, sir. You're a fraud until you admit that you have a seventh grandchild and you teach
00:47:45.300
those very lessons you speak of to your son, Hunter, who's not living any of them with respect to this
00:47:50.820
little girl who deserves better. Amala Evita, stay with us. Quick break. We'll be right back.
00:47:59.520
So let's talk a little 2024 politics because something interesting happened over the weekend,
00:48:04.740
and I wonder what you make of this. The top spokesperson for Ron DeSantis' PAC never backed down.
00:48:13.160
His name is Steve Cortez. He used to work on the Trump campaign back in 2016 and then again in 2020,
00:48:17.700
but he's turned. He's gone. Team DeSantis comes out breaking pretty much one of the cardinal rules of
00:48:24.000
politics, which is don't be honest about how much your candidate is down. Like just keep saying
00:48:31.760
optimistic, hopeful, powerful things and do not lean into anything that is negative that could that
00:48:38.180
could lead the public to perceive you as not doing well or not likely to win. Right. People like to back
00:48:43.920
a winner and then it sort of snowballs into like a self-fulfilling prophecy. So he hosted a Twitter
00:48:51.000
spaces event on Sunday evening and offered a pretty glum assessment of DeSantis' current situation.
00:49:01.140
We've got a little bit of that queued up. Let's see. I think it's SOT 3.
00:49:06.020
Look, right now in national polling, uh, we are way behind. I'll be the first to admit that. Okay.
00:49:12.280
I believe in being really blunt and really honest. It's a, it's an uphill battle. I don't think it's
00:49:16.220
an unwinnable battle by any stretch. Okay. But clearly Donald Trump is the, is the runaway front
00:49:21.420
runner. We're clearly the underdog in the first four States, which matter tremendously. Polls are a
00:49:28.000
lot tighter. We're clearly still down. We're down double digits. We have work to do. Okay. Then he
00:49:33.720
goes on to say, um, that he thought the gap between Trump and DeSantis could be closed, but if we do not
00:49:42.400
prevail, I'll tell you this, we will make president Trump better for having this kind of primary. Then
00:49:49.680
he went on to admit that Trump is a better debater saying is Ron the debater that Trump is? No, no,
00:49:55.800
he isn't. Absolutely. Donald Trump is the maestro of it. He's the maestro of it, right? No doubt about
00:50:01.640
it. When he gets on the debate stage, you know, on his feet in front of a microphone, he debates like
00:50:05.880
Jack Nicklaus plays golf. There's no doubt about it. My God, Steve, step away from the microphone.
00:50:11.500
This is not helpful to team DeSantis. All I could think Amala is this is like when your boyfriend or
00:50:18.660
your spouse starts speaking a little too lovingly and wistfully about a prior girlfriend. And you're like,
00:50:25.300
and it needs to end. Okay. Enough. Lovely talk about the X. You're with me now, sir, Steve,
00:50:38.800
Somebody needs to coach them on the way that they frame these situations and how you
00:50:43.040
have this conversation without having this conversation. It's no wonder that a lot of
00:50:47.800
people are looking at, you know, Trump versus DeSantis and referring to DeSantis as, you know,
00:50:52.280
junior because he's acting like a junior. His employees are acting like juniors. So that's
00:50:57.960
not really going to work out for him. And it seems like he's been having quite an issue on the campaign
00:51:02.340
trail. I don't know if you saw a recent ad that he put out sort of talking about how Trump was buddy
00:51:08.900
buddy with the LGBTQ plus community. And if Ron DeSantis is elected. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I mean,
00:51:16.160
it wasn't it wasn't the greatest ad and certainly didn't frame him in the best light for, you know,
00:51:20.600
some of the major conversations and controversial issues that people are going to be talking about
00:51:25.100
during this election here. Again, I think that junior title is reasonable when you're hearing
00:51:32.060
things like this. Hmm. If you know what do you make of it? Because I appreciate the guy saying,
00:51:37.840
like, I'll give it to you straight. But that's a conversation when you're in his position,
00:51:41.260
you have behind closed doors. You don't you do not put that on Twitter spaces. You do not do
00:51:45.760
anything that makes your candidate look like anything other than the inevitable winner.
00:51:50.840
Right. And to me, I I was thinking about fundraising. The second I heard about that,
00:51:55.240
I said, you know, that's not a way to raise money for a candidate is to tell him, hey,
00:51:59.520
we're really, really behind and I don't know if we can win. And the opponent is way better at
00:52:04.980
debating. And there's a lot of truth to what to what he said. I think he was very frank and very
00:52:09.460
honest. And as a voter, I appreciate it. But I think if you're in if you're in the DeSantis camp,
00:52:13.540
you cannot be talking like that because it's going to set him up for failure. I think,
00:52:18.100
you know, I think liberals like to talk about it a lot. But affirmations are actually a big deal.
00:52:22.840
If you if you tell yourself and you tell the voters and you tell your donors that your candidate
00:52:28.600
is really far behind and we're not doing so hot, then he's going to continue to not do so hot.
00:52:33.340
I think presidential elections have been turned around. Trump was was polling really low at this at this
00:52:38.840
time last year. I'm sorry, not last year, last two cycles ago. And he came back. So there's
00:52:45.820
definitely hope for him. I think that this kind of rhetoric is really going to be detrimental to
00:52:50.100
his campaign. And I think that that needs to really turn around. He needs to get his camp in
00:52:54.860
check and and really put guidelines around the rhetoric they're allowed to put out if he's going
00:52:59.420
to have even a remote chance of being successful, because he's right. Trump is a very formidable
00:53:04.700
candidate. This is going to be a really difficult race. And that kind of that kind of rhetoric cannot
00:53:08.560
stand anymore. Well, like picture two runners in a race along the track and one is way ahead of the
00:53:14.280
second person behind them. And you're the coach for the second person. Do you say like you're really
00:53:20.700
making the one in the lead position better? You know that they're going to be an even stronger runner
00:53:26.240
for the fact that you are on this track and all you out there who want to bet on this race,
00:53:30.640
just continue betting on number two, because it's going to really make number one even stronger. I
00:53:34.700
mean, come on, given the position he's in that that he's giving straight political analysis that
00:53:39.980
would be appropriate on a show like this, but is not appropriate for somebody who's on team
00:53:44.060
DeSantis. And it plays into the already existing fear that is held by a lot of DeSantis supporters
00:53:49.480
that there's just no getting around the 800 pound gorilla. It's not like 2016 when the front
00:53:54.800
runner was Jeb Bush. Jeb with the explanation point, who is never 30 points ahead, never mind
00:54:01.100
40, which we've seen in some of these polls of the second person or even Donald Trump,
00:54:05.820
who, you know, for some polls was the fifth person in line. Yeah, he needs to be talking
00:54:11.280
about the fact that he is stronger, that he's going to show up, that he's going to be a younger
00:54:15.560
buck in the race that is going to be capable of competing against Donald Trump. And they should
00:54:19.480
be emphasizing that there's a debate cycle that's going to be coming up and they have multiple
00:54:22.960
debates that Ron DeSantis is going to be able to shine in. Don't emphasize the fact that Donald
00:54:27.860
Trump is a better debater than anybody else. Unless they're trying to lower expectations.
00:54:31.660
Maybe they're trying to lower expectations. And that seems to be what the case is here.
00:54:35.440
But if you are going to be a competitor, you should be saying, even if you truly feel that way about
00:54:39.260
your debate skills, you should be watching, you know, old tapes of Donald Trump, you know,
00:54:43.540
going through the replay of it, seeing where can we beat him there? What's a strong angle we can have
00:54:48.120
on this issue? And then say, you know what? You might see Ron DeSantis on the news now and you
00:54:52.840
might not think much of him compared to Donald Trump. But wait till we get to that debate stage.
00:54:56.400
He is going to shine brighter than any other candidate you've ever seen. And he's going to be
00:55:00.940
a formidable foe for Donald Trump. This is the problem with the upcoming debates and something
00:55:05.920
interesting about them that I just learned from my team. So, you know, that Trump is threatening not
00:55:09.720
to participate in at least that first debate hosted by Fox News at the end of August. And I understand
00:55:15.340
his point. He's, you know, 30 plus points up. He's like, why should I? I don't have to. You know,
00:55:19.960
I don't know. What's the point for me, though? It'll be hard to resist. It's just such a huge
00:55:25.280
platform and so on. So we'll see whether he shows up. But but what my team informed me was even Ron
00:55:29.640
DeSantis's team has suggested if Trump doesn't go to Santa's might not go. Now, I mean, that like I can't
00:55:37.440
see that actually happening. It's really not a debate if it's just it doesn't have the two front runners.
00:55:42.180
Um, but they're all talking about how Trump is an expert in sort of asymmetrical warfare up there,
00:55:48.700
Evita. You know, he's and it's true. You know, I said this the other week on my show. Chris Christie
00:55:52.920
thinks he's going to get out there with these sharp knives and take down Trump because he knows how to
00:55:56.460
handle him. He sort of said publicly, I'm the only one who knows how to handle him. Well, good luck
00:56:00.080
because you'll have your best argument. I was having this conversation with my husband. He'll put out
00:56:04.300
his best substantive argument. He'll say all the stuff he's been saying about Trump. He sat there on
00:56:07.340
January 6th. He watched the protesters. They were defecating all over the Capitol. They were hurting
00:56:11.820
police officers. And he sat and he enjoyed it while he ate his Big Mac. And Trump will look at
00:56:15.200
him and be like, you're fat. And then my husband, Doug, said, well, Chris, you should get ahead of
00:56:18.500
that in his arguments. If that's what he's going to happen, he should say, look, he's going to respond
00:56:22.280
to this by saying I'm fat, something ridiculous, off point ad hominem. But this is who Donald Trump
00:56:27.420
is. And I said, you think that's going to stop Donald Trump? He's going to look at him and he's
00:56:30.500
going to say, you are fat and fat. People are this or that. What are you like? Trump? He won't care.
00:56:36.260
He doesn't play by the same rules as anybody up there. And that to his supporters is part of his
00:56:41.580
appeal. Because what do they love about Trump? One of the big things is the entertainment value
00:56:47.460
of Trump. He makes them laugh. He's unpredictable. He is kind of sizzling to watch as a politician,
00:56:55.300
as an entertainer, as a public figure. So it's almost like Trump can't lose. He can't.
00:56:59.960
I think that's exactly why he should not recuse himself from any sort of debate, because it's
00:57:06.920
his greatest asset. People love watching him on that debate stage, absolutely clobbering
00:57:12.760
all of his opponents. And I think, to your point, Chris Christie and Ron DeSantis and even Vivek
00:57:19.040
Ramaswamy, all of these candidates won't stand a chance against Trump, because even if they have
00:57:24.840
the right talking points, none of them can match this man's energy and his vibrato. He is 100%
00:57:32.300
a showman, an entertainer. That's how he wins over his audiences, by these sort of quick, funny,
00:57:40.020
kind of crass sometimes, really sort of ridiculous attacks that keep the audience laughing and really
00:57:47.400
not even addressing some of the real issues. It's kind of his strong suit. He's able to skirt around
00:57:51.340
so many things by just being an entertainer and by and by, you know, having these sort of
00:57:56.560
middle school boy type attacks at his opponents. And it's so fun for the audience to watch. It's
00:58:01.040
a great asset for him on the campaign trail. And I also think there's really no one that can compete
00:58:06.340
against him when it comes to a debate stage. A couple of years ago, Amala, my husband and I
00:58:12.180
went to see this comedian, Dove Davidson. He was hysterical and he was doing this bit about how
00:58:19.860
Trump communicates. And he's like, you know, he says all the right things, says all the right
00:58:25.000
things, you know, like we're going to we're going to get rid of Obamacare. And then somebody would say,
00:58:29.620
what are you going to replace it with? And he says something amazing. It's why don't I feel that good?
00:58:35.600
You know what I listen to? He says, right. But I don't feel very good when it's done when he's done.
00:58:39.640
And he's like, he could come home from from the bar, you know, like me and my buds late in the
00:58:45.200
night, 3 a.m. His wife like, where were you? Somewhere amazing. Yeah, I always wonder if,
00:58:54.360
you know, they are doing, you know, strict analysis on the things that he's saying,
00:58:57.780
if this is actually a strategic move for him or if he just naturally comes out with this sort of
00:59:01.960
phrasing. And that's how he talks to people. I've seen people break down his speeches. Yeah,
00:59:06.280
probably the latter. He's very much himself when he's on the stage. But I've seen people
00:59:10.600
break down his speeches compared to other candidates and his opponents. And he speaks
00:59:15.300
in layman's terms. He gives it to you straight. And he leaves you feeling good. He leaves you
00:59:21.220
feeling like you are on the top of the world, regardless of what he is talking about.
00:59:25.280
And I have to think, you know, a that it comes naturally, but be that he just really understands
00:59:31.040
what is in people's hearts and how to really attach himself to to good feelings, regardless
00:59:36.980
about regardless of what he's talking about or what the subject is. If there's a problem,
00:59:41.520
he's acknowledging the problem. He's pointing in somebody else's direction and he's going to be
00:59:45.520
the big man who's around to fix it. So for all the DeSantis fans out there or Vivek fans or Tim Scott
00:59:52.380
or Nikki Haley, this is what they're up against. I know like they're feeling down because they really
00:59:58.760
don't want Trump. They don't like Trump or they don't think Trump can win. I've heard that from
01:00:03.720
a lot of people who have voted for Trump but are just convinced he can't win. This is what they're
01:00:10.500
up against. Trump goes to South Carolina just the other day, picking South Carolina, very, very red
01:00:18.360
county, the reddest county in South Carolina. But let's not forget Nikki Haley was governor of South
01:00:23.100
Carolina. Tim Scott is senator from South Carolina. So this should technically be their country.
01:00:28.480
Their territory. Trump goes and it was. It was like a Taylor Swift concert. Forgive me to Donald
01:00:37.720
Trump. But this town only has thirty four hundred people. More than fifty thousand showed up per the
01:00:45.960
local police chief. It was absolutely insane. Look at this. Look at these crowds who turned out to hear
01:00:53.900
him speak this on top of the fact that the latest polls show the same enthusiasm. If this were just
01:01:00.660
anecdotal, that'd be one thing. But it's not. The polls are reflecting this enthusiasm. Twenty twenty four
01:01:07.860
GOP primary polling among likely voters. That's what we care about. Don't don't forget. Don't pay
01:01:13.580
attention to registered likely voters. The latest by Echelon Insights. Echelon has an A slash B rating
01:01:19.900
from 538 for what it's worth. They show Trump thirty three points up over DeSantis. Trump's at forty
01:01:27.140
nine. DeSantis is at sixteen. Flashback, ladies, to just this past January. Right. That's what? Seven
01:01:35.260
months ago. Trump was at thirty six. DeSantis was at thirty four. They were there was a two point difference
01:01:43.840
between the two of them. Then in February, it went up to a fifteen point difference in Trump's favor.
01:01:50.240
By March, that was up to twenty three points. Donald Trump. This is when he got indicted in New York.
01:01:56.380
And now here we are, May, June and into July, and Trump is up thirty three points. The more they
01:02:04.540
indict him, the higher his numbers go. But it was I mean, it's not that long ago where it was a two
01:02:11.220
point race. DeSantis was flying high a couple of months post those November midterms in which he
01:02:16.260
crushed down in Florida. Donald Trump was blamed for the GOP not doing as well as it should have
01:02:21.180
in the House, never mind the Senate. And things have completely turned. Why? I think in large part
01:02:26.540
because of those indictments, as I said. And also we've gotten a closer look at DeSantis and people
01:02:34.200
have found him lackluster in some corners. Yeah, there's just nobody who is stacking up to Donald
01:02:40.580
Trump here. And I find it really hard to believe that there is much optimism. Now what that man said
01:02:45.640
in that Twitter space is making quite a bit of sense after seeing all of these people showing up.
01:02:50.720
What's going to happen is there's nobody who's going to be able to match the charisma. There's
01:02:54.480
nobody who's going to be able to match the moxie. There's nobody who's going to be able to
01:02:58.360
shoot straight enough to appeal to the great amount of skepticism that people are feeling towards
01:03:03.500
everything. Our government, our media elections at large. And Donald Trump is going to come in and
01:03:08.740
fill that hole for them. And he's also going to give them a hopeful message and optimistic message
01:03:14.200
for the future as, you know, a strong sharpshooter who's going to tell it to them straight and make
01:03:19.200
the change here. Ron DeSantis has his track record with Florida to talk about and use to back him.
01:03:24.620
But that doesn't really scale up to what Donald Trump did during his administration and during his
01:03:30.320
presidency in this country. Not to mention the sense of entitlement that a lot of Trump voters feel
01:03:35.640
for seeing him back in the White House. They feel as though they were robbed of that opportunity,
01:03:39.680
that they deserve it a second time around, and that they'll do any sort of rallying and convincing
01:03:44.740
and persuading that they need to do to see him back there.
01:03:48.140
Evita, the spokesperson, Steve Cortez of the DeSantis PAC came out and said, and you heard it in
01:03:55.480
that soundbite. Yes, he's he's far and away the front runner. However, in the first four primary
01:04:02.720
states, which matter tremendously, polls are a lot tighter. Now, that's true. They're tighter
01:04:08.760
than the national average. And, you know, you there's been a poll here, a poll there that show
01:04:12.920
it a little closer. But we pulled the the pop, the average of polls in Iowa, South Carolina,
01:04:20.380
New Hampshire, Nevada. And here's what they show in Iowa. The average the average of all polls
01:04:26.900
shows Trump up 32 points over DeSantis in Iowa, in New Hampshire, Trump's up 28 points in South
01:04:35.260
Carolina, Trump's up 23 points. This is over DeSantis in Nevada, Trump's up 30 points. My note
01:04:42.540
next to these four averages reads, my God, I mean, I just I don't do political advice. You know,
01:04:50.400
that's not my I don't know how to get people elected or to stop them from getting elected.
01:04:53.940
But there has to be a sheer panic with these numbers. The team DeSantis has blanketed Iowa.
01:05:00.680
There isn't a door he hasn't knocked on through one of his supporters or, you know, constituents
01:05:05.840
who are there on his behalf. They flooded it with money, the super PAC and others.
01:05:10.940
And the Iowa average has Trump up 32 points higher than in any other state.
01:05:16.180
I mean, those numbers are are so detrimental to the DeSantis team and they're trying to damage
01:05:21.520
control. But it's really it's not going to work because, like you said, this indictment has
01:05:25.500
enraged the right. This base of Republican voters have have suddenly said, you know what?
01:05:31.920
I was I like DeSantis. I like what he did in Florida. But Trump's my guy now. The deep state
01:05:37.600
is after him. The Biden administration is prosecuting him. I'm I'm all in now basically to give a finger
01:05:44.320
to the everybody who's who's come after this man for years. It started with Russia collusion
01:05:49.300
and now and now this. And I think it's it's just like I said, it's enraged so many people.
01:05:55.900
And this is this is what we've been dealing with for for years with Trump. Right. The Russian
01:06:01.380
collusion hoax was we thought maybe we could trust our deep state. Maybe we could believe the
01:06:06.920
allegations against him. There's been a lot of polls that come out that said the American people
01:06:10.800
don't believe in the Russia collusion hoax. They don't believe the Hunter Biden laptop scandal was
01:06:15.640
was a Russian disinformation. And they don't believe the charges against him. Now, there's
01:06:20.620
there's a a complete disillusionment with with our current administration. And well, they got to the
01:06:27.460
point on the latest charges where it's whether they're true or they're not true. They no longer
01:06:30.540
care. It's like we indulged you for four years. You misled us. You lied. You engaged in a political
01:06:36.160
conspiracy telling us it was just a just investigation. And we're done now. We're done.
01:06:41.740
Right. Absolutely. And I also think that Trump has really transformed the Republican base. I've come
01:06:46.280
from a rural town in Wisconsin, sort of similar to the to the place that you talked about, this
01:06:50.800
little town in South Carolina. When Trump comes, there are these massive rallies. This is a rural
01:06:55.500
area. There's not a lot of people that live here. And everyone comes to watch Trump because I think
01:06:59.740
he's also transformed the party and brought in voters, working class voters who used to think this
01:07:04.420
isn't my party. I don't identify with George Bush, with with with, you know, some of these other
01:07:08.380
Republican career politicians. But I do identify with Trump and I do like his rhetoric and I do like
01:07:13.820
what he's saying. And those people are coming out of the woodwork to rally around this man in the wake
01:07:18.560
of this political persecution. Do you think it was a mistake for Ron DeSantis to run this time?
01:07:25.140
Because he was, as I point out, just in January, it was tight. It was tight. Like it there seemed
01:07:32.200
and there's still very well may be a clear lean for him. I mean, I don't know what these other
01:07:36.320
indictments that could possibly come down against Trump might do for, you know, I don't think any
01:07:41.780
of these trials will necessarily happen before the 2024 election. It's an interesting situation
01:07:47.300
because the two of them that have been brought so far, the case in New York is exceedingly weak,
01:07:51.940
but it's in front of a jury that's likely to convict him. And the case in, you know, from Jack
01:07:57.760
Smith at the federal level, which will be tried in Florida, in Miami, is rather strong legally,
01:08:04.400
but it's going to be tried in front of a jury that may like Trump. Right. So it's like it it's hard to
01:08:10.700
predict how it's going to go down. But do you think it was a mistake for Ron DeSantis to run this time
01:08:15.980
because before he announced, before it was sort of clear he was going to run, which predates the
01:08:20.900
announcement, he was a darling of the Republican Party, absolute darling. And now, of course,
01:08:26.580
is in any presidential race. He's getting dinged up a bit. Yeah, I mean, if we're looking toward
01:08:31.840
indictments and how they pan out as a marker of whether or not Ron DeSantis is going to be on the
01:08:36.680
other end of this, then it's probably a sign that he should have maybe waited this one out.
01:08:40.180
I think there was probably nobody on the Republican ticket that would be able to match up to the energy
01:08:46.480
that Trump has and for all the different reasons that we're talking about now. And, you know, he's
01:08:52.000
young, but he doesn't even really have the youthful energy to match up to what Donald Trump is bringing
01:08:57.000
to the stage. So it might have been within his best interest to maybe create a better relationship
01:09:01.560
with Donald Trump himself, wait out this next election cycle and then see what he could do after
01:09:06.440
that. As I said before, he's got a great track record for Florida. A lot of people are very proud of
01:09:11.380
what he's done and Republicans love what he has done in Florida, but they do not love stacking him
01:09:17.080
up against Donald Trump. To me, the thing that bothers me about the whole thing is it does seem
01:09:23.720
like it's going exactly according to the Democrats plan. This is what they wanted. They believe Trump
01:09:28.440
cannot win this time. I know they believe that in 16, too, but they just think he's got too much
01:09:33.520
baggage. He cannot get the addition he needs in those critical swing states in order to get a
01:09:39.960
different result from what happened in 2020, even though that was very, very tight. But they just
01:09:44.120
don't think that he can do it. There's not there's not enough gettable votes for Trump, and therefore
01:09:47.560
Trump must be the GOP nominee. And if the indictments help make that happen, great. If they don't,
01:09:52.720
maybe we'll get him in jail, which is also a nice fallback for us. You know, that's how they're
01:09:56.740
thinking. And it makes me a little suspicious that it's going according to plan. You know, and then I
01:10:01.820
see folks like my friends over the Daily Wire who are definitely much more team DeSantis getting
01:10:07.220
incredibly frustrated. These are honest people who are true conservatives who just think there
01:10:12.280
is no way Trump can win. We're playing into the left's hands. And like this, the playbook is going
01:10:19.960
perfectly. If you are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, if you know. Well, I as a as a political commentator,
01:10:28.120
I go on. People ask me Trump or DeSantis and all the time I I just say I trust the voters and I there
01:10:33.800
could be Democrats that are saying, you know, we're trying to make Trump win so that then
01:10:38.460
win the primaries, then he can go against Biden and inevitably lose. There are, you know, others
01:10:44.000
who are saying the opposite. I think that we should trust the Republican base to elect the primary
01:10:50.180
candidate that they really like, and then they'll actually be motivated to go to the polls and vote
01:10:55.440
in the general. I don't like when I like the Daily Wire. I like what they do. I don't like when they
01:11:00.260
try to tell us what kind of candidate the base should vote for. I think that people are going to
01:11:06.620
decide that for themselves. They're going to weigh their options. They don't need a bunch of talking
01:11:11.460
heads telling them what to do. I think, first of all, it doesn't work. And I think it's bad optics.
01:11:16.100
I think they're going to do they're going to vote for who they want to vote for, irrespective of what
01:11:20.440
Ben Shapiro says, irrespective of what Paul Ryan says, irrespective of what anybody says, they're
01:11:25.660
going to vote for who they want to vote for. And in the end, that's going to be the best candidate
01:11:28.800
to beat Joe Biden. Big gulf between the actual positions of those two men you just mentioned.
01:11:34.960
They may both be in DeSantis' camp, but they're not the same at all on politics. But to your point,
01:11:41.240
there's a woman named Katie Ambrose. She's in her 50s at that South Carolina rally that we showed you
01:11:47.140
the pictures of. She drove four hours to attend the Trump rally. It's her fifth since 2019. And she said
01:11:53.480
explicitly, if Trump is not the candidate, I won't even go vote. You know, that there are a lot of
01:11:59.520
people. I've been saying this in the beginning. They're not Republicans. They're Trumplicans.
01:12:02.640
And he's the only one who could get them out to vote. And the Republican Party's got to deal with
01:12:06.500
that, too. And if it goes that way and they elect, they dominate Donald Trump and he does fail in the
01:12:12.940
general election, then so be it. You know, if that's what the Republican primary voters say they
01:12:16.820
want, then that's what they're that's what they're going to get. You know, it's like whatever that this
01:12:21.680
ball was put into motion back in 2015. And it may just have to snowball to either, you know,
01:12:27.980
the crash and burn of the Republican Party or Trump's return to the White House triumphantly.
01:12:32.700
And maybe another three Supreme Court justices like the ones he gave us, which wouldn't be so bad.
01:12:38.520
He was out on the campaign trail this week saying, I want them all. You know, I would like I like seven.
01:12:43.760
Maybe I could maybe I could put seven on the Supreme Court. He's like most presidents maybe get one.
01:12:48.160
But I got three. Anyway, I want to talk about what's been happening to Moms for Liberty, a group
01:12:53.860
I love. I love I've spoken to them early on in their tenure as an organization down in Florida,
01:12:58.600
and they've only grown and gotten more popular given the state of our country and how
01:13:02.980
just nasty people are towards parents who are trying to speak up against what's happening in
01:13:07.760
the schools. So Moms for Liberty Liberty does not listen to the hateful people attacking them.
01:13:13.280
They continue to organize parents to run moms and others for school boards positions. So they have
01:13:18.840
a real seat at the table and changing policies that are hurting kids, whether it's the transgender
01:13:23.360
nonsense, sexuality, you know, America cop bashing like they're the covid mania, you name it. It's a
01:13:31.140
great group. So they had their second annual convention. They call themselves joy, joyful warriors
01:13:37.560
who do not co-parent with the government. Now they have 285 chapters in 45 states.
01:13:42.440
They self-report a membership of approximately 120,000 and they had their big convention in
01:13:49.460
Philadelphia. And the reaction from the mainstream media has been this is basically the proud boys
01:13:57.040
getting together. It's it's a quote hate group that has been labeled a hate group, an extremist group
01:14:03.600
by the Southern Poverty Law Center. And we're still supposed to believe that that group, Southern
01:14:09.760
Poverty Law Center, should be trusted in any way to decide who's hateful. They're hateful. They hate
01:14:16.940
anyone who's not a far left progressive. But they were cited by NPR, by USA Today, by the Washington Post
01:14:23.760
as the authority in saying Moms for Liberty is an anti-government extremist group. But it wasn't just
01:14:31.680
them. We could go down the list. So what do you make of what's happening to Moms for Liberty and
01:14:37.580
the narrative about them? Oh, well, it's a complete and total witch hunt, as we can tell. As soon as
01:14:43.760
you hear Southern Poverty Law Center, I want everybody to know you should have a red flag up
01:14:47.860
as a leftist. I used to work in tandem with Southern Poverty Law Center. They put up these
01:14:52.200
huge maps of all the hateful extremist groups that are all across America. And now you have to wonder
01:14:57.020
how many of those markers on the map are actually groups like Moms for Liberty who are going out as
01:15:03.480
mothers, as daughters, as sisters, and who are advocating for young children, for them to get a
01:15:08.520
better education, for them to be protected, for their innocence to be protected in this country.
01:15:13.420
This is a relatively docile group of women who are coming together to just have this conversation,
01:15:19.100
to place themselves in positions of power, to make change for their children's lives.
01:15:23.500
And they're being labeled as extremists. It is really reminding me of all the parents who were
01:15:28.740
heading to school boards to talk about the pornography that was in their students' classes,
01:15:33.400
to talk about the issues of gender theory and gender confusion, being labeled as extremists and
01:15:40.000
domestic terrorists by the DOJ in that letter that they put out. So it's reframing. They're trying
01:15:45.600
to label everybody who has a dissident opinion as an extremist. And people should, when they hear these
01:15:50.860
words, view them with a strong sense of skepticism. Because to me now, the word domestic terrorist or
01:15:57.160
extremist carries no weight whatsoever because it's being used so often to refer to groups like Moms for
01:16:03.220
Liberty. Oh, just to follow up, because you're with Prager Salon, which is a far left publication
01:16:09.600
online there, they get specific on why they object to Moms for Liberty. They point out that they
01:16:14.840
invited, quote, anti-LGBTQ pundits Dennis Prager and James Lindsay. They're mad that they invited
01:16:22.620
Prager. I mean, I guess I'm a hate group, too, because I've had Prager on this show many times.
01:16:26.780
He's a genius. Oh, my gosh. And there's no need to even put out the disclaimers, but I'll do it
01:16:32.180
anyways. Dennis Prager has multiple gay friends. He's the godfather to a child of gay parents. So I
01:16:38.880
don't know how anybody could look at Dennis Prager and label him as somebody who is anti-LGBTQ. But
01:16:44.520
that's what's happening now. If you disagree with one use of their agenda or one use of their opinion
01:16:50.340
or some of the extreme policies that they're trying to push forward, specifically in reference to kids,
01:16:55.260
you are blanketed as an LGBTQ plus extremist who's, you know, anti-trans, anti-lesbian, anti-gay.
01:17:03.280
And I think what they're going to find is a lot of people within the LGBTQ plus community,
01:17:08.360
specifically lesbian, gay and bisexual people are coming forward and saying, wait a second,
01:17:13.420
I listen to Dennis Prager on the radio and he doesn't say anything about my lifestyle or wait
01:17:17.760
a second. I don't agree with some of the stuff you're doing in relation to children and their
01:17:21.580
education. And we need to disband this massive acronym that we've created for no other reason
01:17:27.660
than to lump people together and push a certain agenda. Avita, Southern Poverty Law Center,
01:17:32.640
in discussing why this group is so horrible and hateful, points out former President Donald Trump
01:17:37.180
and Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, our top billed speakers at the event. The horror,
01:17:42.360
the two top frontrunners for the GOP nomination. And by the way, Nikki Haley showed up there.
01:17:47.660
Maybe Tim Scott, I'm trying to remember. But just being a Republican is enough to get labeled
01:17:53.080
a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, which, as I point out, continues to get cited with
01:17:57.720
favor by organizations like The Washington Post. The veil should have come down on this group
01:18:03.900
long ago when I was at NBC in twenty eighteen. Even they said internally, I'm not sure we should
01:18:08.860
be citing them. Not to me that they were. There's an internal discussion. I'm not sure we should be
01:18:13.680
citing this. Even they were starting to get it back then. But we still have all these mainstream
01:18:16.960
groups holding them up as the final arbiter of who's hateful. Well, forget forget The Washington
01:18:23.200
Post. The FBI did it, too. They cited the Southern Poverty Law Center when they did that horrible
01:18:28.520
document labeling traditional Catholics as white supremacists and extremists who need to be
01:18:34.960
surveilled by the government and infiltrated, had the church infiltrated by FBI agents. I mean,
01:18:39.660
this is a I love what Amala said about the Southern Poverty Law Center. I think that they are
01:18:44.180
a ridiculous organization used by the left in the media and also in our government to demonize
01:18:51.620
regular Americans who stand in opposition to leftist politics. This is exactly what all of
01:18:56.300
this is about. And I saw this on college campuses, too. Right. This is this is the leftist playbook.
01:19:00.860
If you say anything that they don't like, they say you're a racist, you're transphobic, you're
01:19:06.020
homophobic. And they do that to control you, because if they can label you with this word and they can
01:19:11.060
make you feel bad, then you start to self-censor to self-censor and you you start to to abide by the
01:19:18.380
framework that they want you to. And the Moms for Liberty is a wonderful organization. I've worked
01:19:23.240
with them at the Federalist, interviewed them, reported on their work. They are a wonderful
01:19:27.580
group of women who said, you know what, we're not going to co-parent with the government. We are going
01:19:31.640
to take back control of our children's educations and really their minds, because this is what these
01:19:35.940
schools have become is indoctrination machines with with CRT, with these LGBTQ books, with teachers
01:19:42.140
putting in this this this learning system where they're they're they're doing LGBTQ awareness in
01:19:49.060
math and science and infiltrating it into all parts of of education. This is what these moms are
01:19:55.220
opposing. This is very reasonable. These were things that as a country we never would have stood for
01:20:00.680
even a decade ago when I was in elementary school. These things were existing. So this is a visceral
01:20:06.000
reaction from moms and dads saying, you know what, we're not going to let our kids be indoctrinated in
01:20:11.240
this way. And I think that is a direct opposition to the left and their plan to to change the the
01:20:18.380
the future generations. And that's why they're labeling them with these ridiculous terms. White
01:20:24.040
supremacists. It's just so crazy. It's very threatening to them. I thank God for Moms for Liberty.
01:20:29.740
I believe in their mission. They've been successful. I completely agree that the fight is at the local
01:20:35.300
level. Get on the school boards. Make a difference there. It's very hard to do it from a top down. You've got
01:20:40.320
to be right in on the ground floor. And I've looked at them many times and thought good for them,
01:20:44.980
because as much as I agree with them ideologically, I'm not an organizer. It takes a lot to actually
01:20:49.900
organize people and get the troops out there to fight the good fight and get the school board
01:20:54.720
change and all that. And like that's overwhelming. And I think a lot of a lot of I mean, moms in general
01:20:59.460
are busy. They have these little people who really need to take up most of their time. Never mind working
01:21:04.440
moms who have another added layer on top of it. And these women are making it happen. So they're tough.
01:21:09.440
They can handle this. Literally, I heard horrible stories down there about people smearing feces on
01:21:14.080
the front doors of these women when they started to speak out about some of these issues like during
01:21:18.160
the covid lockdowns. They're tough. They can take the Southern Poverty Law Center's ridiculous labels
01:21:22.720
any day of the week. Keep going, ladies. Keep going. We got your back. Stand by. When we come back,
01:21:28.300
we have an update for you on Bud Light's latest effort to save its brand. Wait until you see their latest ad.
01:21:39.440
So Bud Light continues to scramble. They're such a hot mess. They don't know what to do.
01:21:44.360
My God, the numbers are just dreadful. Now the sales are down nearly 30 percent, down almost 50 percent
01:21:53.540
from its sales a year ago. OMG. They've lost half of their business in one year thanks to their
01:22:04.360
partnership with Dylan Mulvaney, about which they have apparently been lying from the start
01:22:08.900
because while their CEO wanted us to believe it was one can, one can to one person, one can,
01:22:13.660
and then they released through underlings through the press anonymously, oh, it's just some small
01:22:17.920
no name staffer who sent that beer can, not authorized. We now know that's not true.
01:22:23.080
They fired the head of marketing. They hired the woman who works directly under him, who was behind
01:22:26.860
the campaign. And now we've had Dylan Mulvaney come out explicitly and say it was a paid partnership.
01:22:33.800
So, OK, it was more than they admitted. Now we saw right after the controversy, they released
01:22:41.700
the horses ad back to the horses and the two sort of country looking guys standing on the
01:22:46.860
front porch. America. Yeah, we get it. Don't worry. We don't think you're fratty. We love
01:22:50.680
you. Didn't work. Not without an apology and an acknowledgement of how they had misstepped.
01:22:55.060
And here is the latest effort to capture the soul of American beer drinkers. Watch this ad.
01:23:01.520
Oh, OK. It's large men grunting as they sit down and it ends with the slogan, Bud Light,
01:23:25.900
easy to drink, easy to enjoy. I guess it's hard to sit when you're a fat American man. That's how
01:23:30.980
back to the we love fratty. OK, well, I don't know what this is. What's trying to telegraph? But
01:23:35.640
I think it's we do love fatty, fatty, fratty American men. And we're there for you because
01:23:42.780
our beer is super easy to drink. That is unless you care about being humiliated, because you will
01:23:48.420
be if you drink one publicly right now. Evita, what do you think? Is this going to get it done?
01:23:54.900
They what we what they really need to fix this whole brand is to apologize to their consumers and they
01:24:00.580
refuse to do that. I think it was last week that their CEO was on MSNBC and said that he wouldn't
01:24:07.120
take back the campaign with Dylan Mulvaney. This is this is such terrible marketing for their
01:24:14.180
cases. They fired the marketer, but they they haven't apologized to the consumers and they're
01:24:19.520
not going to do it because they'll get punished by the ESG. So the human rights campaign has something
01:24:25.340
called the Corporate Equality Index, which ranks how pro or anti LGBTQ you are. And part of why I
01:24:33.040
think that they did this partnership with Dylan Mulvaney was to boost their Corporate Equality
01:24:37.160
Index. Well, when they didn't defend Dylan Mulvaney and Dylan Mulvaney actually came out and said,
01:24:42.440
you're not defending me enough. Their numbers tanked and they gave a bunch of money to LGBTQ
01:24:47.860
groups. And the point of me saying this is that we really don't have the power of the purse
01:24:52.600
because the real controllers of Bud Light and a lot of these other companies are the ESGs are things
01:24:58.700
like the Corporate Equality Index. And and really, we're not going to get that power back. A couple
01:25:03.560
of months of boycotting really isn't going to do that much until there's a way to address these ESGs.
01:25:08.980
I don't know. I don't know. I think this is the consumer telling them where your ESG score now
01:25:13.820
you will listen to us or you will go out of business. I mean, it's getting anhydrous is a huge
01:25:19.120
company, but Bud Light is it's on its last legs. I mean, it has been seriously targeted down. 50%
01:25:24.200
is no small deal. There was a report just out that a glass bottling company called the R-Daw Group,
01:25:29.480
one of the world's largest glass producers, announced last week it was shuttering its
01:25:33.960
Wilson, North Carolina and Simsboro, Louisiana plants, saying they didn't cite a reason for the
01:25:39.500
disclosures or for the closures. But W-R-A-L found that R-Daw was forced to close due to the
01:25:46.980
declining sales of Bud Light, its major contractor, or at least one of its major contractors.
01:25:53.020
They reported that by May 18th, according to an internal memo obtained by the news station,
01:25:57.500
company executives there at R-Daw said they would shut down the two plants, quote,
01:26:01.480
due to slow sales with Anheuser in Bev, the parent company of Budweiser and Bud Light.
01:26:06.320
Look, I don't know that this is save it, but this man's just floundering as he tries to avoid
01:26:14.620
addressing directly what they did isn't working. He either needs to be fired, the CEO, or he needs to
01:26:22.120
do a full fledged mea culpa. He should come on this show. He should release a TikTok, however he wants
01:26:29.760
to do it and let himself get beaten up a bit rhetorically, take the L and explain that he
01:26:37.760
really does get it. But right now we have zero reason to believe he's sorry or he understands
01:26:44.220
why we're still mad. Amala. Yeah, this is an interesting mark on this brand that I don't
01:26:51.220
think is going to be to leave anytime soon. They tweeted out a 4th of July tweet saying it's the 4th
01:26:57.080
of July, enjoy some beer with a Bud Light image, and they got tens of thousands of responses from
01:27:01.920
people who say they will never drink this beer ever again. I do want to point out that, of course,
01:27:06.620
they're stuck between a rock and a hard place, right? If they come out and apologize for having
01:27:10.660
entered this sponsorship agreement with Dylan Mulvaney, then suddenly they are anti-LGBTQ,
01:27:16.040
as Evita said earlier. I'm not sure how that necessarily affects their ESG score, but it certainly
01:27:21.580
is going to set a woke mob of leftists after them and after their brand. What they forgot,
01:27:27.080
was that their main consumer base, however, is not that woke mob of leftists. They're not the
01:27:31.120
ones who are sitting on Saturday night and cracking open a can of Bud Light. And as soon
01:27:35.880
as they lost the mark on who their real consumers are, they lost the whole bag in this marketing
01:27:42.580
campaign. So I'm not sure that even an apology at this point, after all the back and forth they've
01:27:49.160
had, after all the skirting the issue that they've done, is going to bring back this brand. I think
01:27:53.480
this is one that's going to be to be laid in the ground. You know, take a stand, say what you
01:28:02.000
actually feel and what you actually stand for. Don't run from the LGBTQ mob. I think the LGBTQ
01:28:09.000
mob, there's certainly the LG and B can understand if you come out and say it was a mistake. That was
01:28:15.020
a very controversial person who many women feel is mocking them in their approach to social media
01:28:22.540
and otherwise. They feel offended by his calling himself a girl and prancing around in little girls
01:28:29.160
clothing and declaring himself a woman after one day. I hear it. I get it. People are offended
01:28:37.460
by this particular person's approach to the entire trans issue.
01:28:41.200
I really don't think that even the LGBTQ crowd, maybe the T crowd, but the rest of them
01:28:47.620
would condemn Bud Light wholeheartedly for something that acknowledged that. But if they
01:28:53.300
don't have the balls to do it, he's too afraid. And if he really wants to be like those two
01:28:57.280
American ranchers he showed in that initial ad after the controversy broke, then he needs
01:29:02.340
to get a whole lot tougher because those guys are out there doing really hard work with their
01:29:07.440
hands every day, dealing with cattle, dealing with horses, dealing with freezing cold conditions,
01:29:13.340
night and day, crack of dawn. And they don't care what people have to say about it. They don't care
01:29:17.580
about social media. They have a mission and they will pursue it and everybody else can be damned.
01:29:22.720
And this guy's got to understand if he wants that to remain his customer base, he needs to speak to
01:29:27.620
them honestly. He needs to reflect their concerns. He doesn't get it. He's not going to get it. He should
01:29:32.760
be fired. That's that's it. He should be fired. So goodbye to Bud Light. In the time we have left,
01:29:38.220
I've talked about what's happened in Philadelphia. There was yet another shooting over the holiday
01:29:45.680
weekend. I'm trying to get the exact statistics here so I don't say the wrong thing. Hold on.
01:29:51.720
Let me find it. What page is this on? I just had it. But of course, I lost it.
01:29:55.760
Um, five dead and the shooter in this particular case is said to have been a cross dresser.
01:30:05.700
Uh, that's as much as we know about this person, that they're a cross dresser.
01:30:09.760
Um, and they are both pro Trump and pro BLM, according to the writings that you read of this
01:30:16.300
person's online. Um, the police are not officially saying his name. Much of the media is not saying his
01:30:22.260
name at all. I don't say the names of mass shooters on my show for very good reasons that I've explained
01:30:27.160
many times, but it's weird that nobody's saying it. And it leads me to wonder whether there's some
01:30:32.580
sort of protection going on in this particular person who is a man with breasts from that picture
01:30:39.700
and dresses like a woman. Um, the police are calling him they, uh, in the, in the initial statements.
01:30:46.520
And it does make me wonder because I first heard about this on NPR is upfront podcast this morning.
01:30:52.940
And the way they wrote about this particular shooting was about, oh, there was another mass
01:30:57.340
shooting. Uh, I think it's three dead in Fort Worth. There was this mass shooting in Philadelphia,
01:31:02.420
five dead. And this is about gun violence in America. There are too many guns. What are we going
01:31:07.780
to do to stop the guns, the guns, the guns, they did not mention the fact that this person has
01:31:11.880
obviously some gender confusion. And this is one of a series now we've seen of people in the trans
01:31:18.900
community committing mass acts of violence, which I guess we're supposed to ignore the trans ideology
01:31:25.480
and identity as having nothing to do with it. Um, however, I look at pieces like this one from
01:31:31.580
David Strom and hot air that says, look, being transgender doesn't necessarily make you violent,
01:31:37.260
but he writes, I also think it's not a coincidence that a number of mass shootings lately have been
01:31:41.400
carried out by transgender identifying people. Alphabet ideology radicalizes people and convinces
01:31:47.780
them that they are hated by and under constant threat from the larger society going on. Unfortunately,
01:31:54.040
a volatile combination has been creating, created, putting people with obvious mental instability
01:31:59.000
in the middle of a culture war battle and nothing good can come from this. Now we don't know what
01:32:05.580
caused this particular person to snap Evita, but when they're trans, it doesn't get mentioned at all.
01:32:11.400
I mean, it gets buried by the mainstream media. Absolutely. And we, Amala and I were on air with
01:32:18.260
you the last, when we, when the Tennessee shooter story broke, that was an awful situation. We still
01:32:24.220
haven't seen the manifesto. We have to be talking about the reasons behind these shootings and the
01:32:30.480
Democrats, they always say guns, guns, guns. And we, we, that's what the entire conversation is always
01:32:36.420
centered around. And there were so many other factors that come into play here. I mean, there is
01:32:41.640
violence normalized and dehumanization normalized in video games and violent movies and, and, and TV
01:32:48.600
shows. You also have a massive mental health problem, especially among Gen Z people. We, this is
01:32:55.020
the most mentally ill generation to date that has to be taken into consideration. And then you have all
01:33:00.720
of these prescription drugs over, over prescribing. You have people with gender dysphoria, like the,
01:33:05.380
the person that you quoted before a, an ideology that's telling you that you're hated by the whole
01:33:10.840
world. These are things that we need to be thinking about. The Columbine shooter, one, one of them was on
01:33:16.080
antidepressant drugs that cause suicidal and homicidal ideation that we, we cannot be ignoring
01:33:23.300
these important factors that come into these mass shootings. If we're actually serious about stopping
01:33:28.340
them. Mm hmm. I mean, it's, it's happening over and over, Amal. And I do wonder when is the left
01:33:33.740
going to say, all right, let's be honest about the fact that it is growing in numbers. And there
01:33:38.680
might be a reason behind that, that we're going to have to get real clear on. I just, I don't see
01:33:42.920
them doing that, but how many more have to die before we actually take a look at the messaging
01:33:46.920
and the mental instability of, of obviously a portion of this community? Right. I mean, those are two
01:33:55.680
very good questions. I don't think that they are going to be honest about it because it in no way
01:34:00.000
serves their agenda. If they want to push forward what they're doing right now in children's education
01:34:04.960
with gender confusion and gender theory, if they want to push forward some of the legislation in
01:34:10.560
regard to medical transitioning and blind affirmation, gender care, that's not going to work if these
01:34:16.020
stories continue to come out. So as long as they are pushing that agenda and they haven't met their
01:34:19.680
goals there, these stories are going to continue to be hushed. It was really hard in, in looking into
01:34:24.060
these stories to even find out that this individual was African-American responsible for
01:34:27.740
the shooting. And it's all because it does not fit their certain agenda. Now they'll say they're
01:34:32.620
worried about more hate being pushed towards trans people if the real story comes out. But what
01:34:37.460
actually creates hate is a lack of transparency. If you are not honest about these things and
01:34:41.740
people's skepticism leads them to find out that this was a cross-dressing male, guess what that is
01:34:46.100
going to create? More hate towards the trans community, more hate towards gender ideology and gender
01:34:50.640
theory. You need to be transparent in these cases and tell it to people straight so that they can
01:34:55.380
make decisions for themselves. Yes, well said. And to your point, Avita, it's been three months
01:35:01.040
since that shooting in Tennessee, in Nashville, three months. And the manifesto has still not been
01:35:06.640
shared. I will say that even the parents of the victims in that case are fighting its disclosure. But
01:35:12.160
you know, with all due respect to them, they don't have the final say on it. It's a matter of public
01:35:16.260
safety. And I do I do believe that we deserve to know and it should be treated responsibly by the
01:35:21.920
press. But we we have a right to know. Ladies, thank you both so much for being here. Really
01:35:26.480
appreciate it. All the best to you. And we will be back tomorrow with Charlie Kirk. Looking forward
01:35:32.080
to that conversation. He's always interesting to talk to. Thanks for listening to The Megan