The Megyn Kelly Show - July 24, 2025


Bombshell Report Debunks 2016 Russia Narratives, Trump vs. Dems on DOJ Nominees: AM Update 7⧸24


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Summary

The Russiagate document dump continues. Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard declassifies more documents, supporting her claim that President Obama and key staffers knowingly relied on bad intel to create the Russia interference narrative. And it s very clear that the Democrats are taking their sweet time in all these appointments, and it really is cramping the ability of President Trump to run the government. From Senate slow-walking to judicial curveballs, how the left is working to derail President Trump s nominees? All that and more coming up in a moment on your AM Update.


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00:00:30.000 Good morning, everyone. I'm Megan Kelly.
00:00:35.600 It's Thursday, July 24th, 2025, and this is your AM update.
00:00:40.200 The implications of this are far-reaching and have to do with the integrity of our democratic republic.
00:00:46.860 Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard declassifying more documents,
00:00:50.840 supporting her claim that President Obama and key staffers knowingly relied on bad intel
00:00:56.620 to create the Russia interference narrative.
00:00:59.400 And it's very clear that the Democrats are taking their sweet time in all these appointments.
00:01:02.860 And it really is cramping the ability of President Trump to run the government.
00:01:07.280 From Senate slow-walking to judicial curveballs, how the left is working to derail President Trump's nominees.
00:01:13.080 All that and more coming up in just a moment on your AM update.
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00:02:19.700 The Russiagate document dump continues.
00:02:22.620 Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard on Wednesday declassifying a previously unreleased
00:02:28.060 September 2020 House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence report.
00:02:32.860 Director Gabbard saying this report further outlines a plot by President Obama and other high-ranking
00:02:39.040 officials in his administration to manufacture the 2016 Russia interference narrative with
00:02:45.760 intelligence they knew to be unreliable, all in order to undermine the incoming Trump administration.
00:02:52.060 The newly released report analyzing the tradecraft used to compile a 2017 Intelligence Community
00:02:59.340 Assessment, or ICA, at the direction of President Obama.
00:03:03.820 It concluded, quote,
00:03:04.860 We also assess Putin and the Russian government aspired to help President-elect Trump's election
00:03:10.680 chances, when possible, by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably
00:03:17.400 to him.
00:03:18.260 This newly released 2020 intelligence report finding many serious flaws with the intelligence
00:03:24.760 and methods used to craft that ICA.
00:03:28.220 Launched by then-chairman of the committee, Republican Congressman Devin Nunes,
00:03:31.580 it was finished only after Democrats regained the majority in 2019, and under the new chairman,
00:03:38.060 Democrat Adam Schiff.
00:03:39.760 Surprisingly, it never saw the light of day.
00:03:42.600 Until now.
00:03:43.820 On Wednesday, Director Gabbard presenting to reporters some of what that buried report determined.
00:03:49.440 Then-CIA Director Brennan and the intelligence community mischaracterized intelligence and relied
00:03:54.040 on dubious substandard sources to create a contrived false narrative that Putin developed a
00:03:59.320 quote-unquote clear preference for Trump.
00:04:02.340 Brennan and the IC misled lawmakers by referencing the debunked Steele dossier to assess quote-unquote
00:04:08.500 Russia's plans and intentions, falsely suggesting that this dossier had intelligence value when
00:04:14.820 he knew that it was discredited.
00:04:16.220 The intelligence community excluded significant intelligence and ignored or selectively quoted
00:04:21.900 reliable intelligence that contradicted the intelligence community assessment's key
00:04:26.020 findings on Putin's alleged support for Trump.
00:04:29.160 The implications of this are far-reaching and have to do with the integrity of our democratic
00:04:35.320 republic.
00:04:36.080 It has to do with an outgoing president taking action to manufacture intelligence to undermine
00:04:43.340 and usurp the will of the American people in that election and launch what would be a
00:04:48.580 years-long coup against the incoming President of the United States, Donald Trump.
00:04:52.460 This latest disclosure providing even more color to the bombshell drop late last week, which
00:04:57.880 placed President Obama directly at the center of the plot to subvert the Trump administration.
00:05:03.420 In December 2016, the intel community was prepared to conclude that Russia did not use cyber attacks
00:05:09.180 on election infrastructure and any criminal activity from Russian-affiliated criminal actors
00:05:14.380 fail to reach the scale and sophistication necessary to change election outcomes.
00:05:19.720 There had been several other conclusions drawn by intel analysts that Russia's interference in
00:05:25.380 the 2016 election mirrored the minor interference it had done in many elections prior.
00:05:31.560 Director Gabbard providing a new possible explanation for why that presidential daily brief was pulled
00:05:37.080 before it went to President Obama.
00:05:39.200 The presidential daily brief, drafted on December 8th of 2016, stated that no Russian or criminal actors
00:05:46.960 impacted vote counts.
00:05:49.240 This document was pulled just hours before it was to be published due to quote-unquote new guidance.
00:05:55.460 If it had been published, it would have been briefed to both President Obama and President-elect
00:06:00.420 Donald Trump.
00:06:01.720 Instead, the following day, President Obama ordered the creation of a new assessment with a
00:06:07.020 predetermined narrative that contradicted what career intel analysts believed.
00:06:12.160 The 2020 House Intelligence Committee report, locked away until now, finding, quote,
00:06:17.300 production of the ICA was subject to unusual directives from the president and senior political
00:06:23.280 appointees, and particularly the director of the CIA, John Brennan.
00:06:27.640 The draft was not properly coordinated with CIA or the intelligence community, ensuring it would
00:06:33.360 be published without significant challenges to its conclusions.
00:06:37.020 Perhaps the most important revelation from the declassified intelligence report, finding
00:06:41.960 the ICA's key judgment that Putin developed a, quote, clear preference for candidate Trump
00:06:47.160 and aspired to help him win, did not meet tradecraft standards and was based on, quote, information
00:06:53.940 that was unclear, of uncertain origin, potentially biased, or implausible.
00:06:58.880 Again, they hid this report, finding all of this from us, for five years.
00:07:04.360 According to the buried and newly released report, the only classified information cited to conclude
00:07:09.400 President Putin, quote, aspired to help Mr. Trump's chances of victory was based on, get this, quote,
00:07:15.700 one scant, unclear, and unverifiable fragment of a sentence from a single human report.
00:07:22.320 In fact, two of the five CIA analysts, handpicked by John Brennan, told him, quote,
00:07:29.160 we don't have direct information that Putin wanted to get Trump elected.
00:07:33.700 He overruled them.
00:07:35.300 When analysts then objected to the discredited Steele dossier being used to support this flimsy
00:07:41.260 premise, Brennan reportedly said yes, but doesn't it ring true?
00:07:45.640 The just-released 2020 House Intelligence Committee's report also flagging that the
00:07:50.620 Russians had much more damaging information on Secretary Clinton than what was leaked in
00:07:55.120 the DNC email hack, but did not release it, even as the polling tightened in the final
00:08:00.840 weeks of the 2016 election, directly undermining the key judgment that Mr. Putin, quote, aspired
00:08:07.160 to help Trump.
00:08:08.580 If that were true, why didn't he release the damaging information on Secretary Clinton?
00:08:12.660 And Director Gabbard laying out some of the dirt the Russians allegedly had on the Secretary.
00:08:18.220 The report goes into great detail about the information that Russia and Putin had on Hillary
00:08:23.420 Clinton, which included possible criminal acts like secret meetings with multiple named
00:08:28.280 U.S. religious organizations in which State Department officials offered, in exchange for
00:08:34.300 supporting Secretary Clinton's campaign for the presidency, significant increases in financing
00:08:39.740 from the State Department.
00:08:40.800 They also had documents that showed the patronage of the State Department to State Department
00:08:46.640 employees who would go and support Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign.
00:08:50.900 There were high-level DNC emails that detailed evidence of Hillary's, quote, psycho-emotional
00:08:55.900 problems, uncontrolled fits of anger, aggression, and cheerfulness, and that then-Secretary Clinton
00:09:02.720 was allegedly on a daily regimen of heavy tranquilizers.
00:09:05.980 Another damning piece of information the Russians held back was an email from the head of the
00:09:12.200 DNC claiming that former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, whose FBI was investigating the Hillary
00:09:19.060 email scandal, was working to control James Comey and keeping a named member of the Clinton
00:09:25.580 campaign informed on what the FBI was doing in that email investigation.
00:09:31.120 MK Media star, after-party host Emily Jaschinski, from the new media seat in the White House press
00:09:36.920 room, asking Director Gabbard if these allegations rise to criminality.
00:09:41.180 Do you believe that any of this new information implicates former President Obama in criminal
00:09:47.380 behavior?
00:09:48.640 We have referred and will continue to refer all of these documents to the Department of Justice
00:09:53.360 and the FBI to investigate the criminal implications of this.
00:09:57.520 For even former President Obama?
00:09:58.860 The evidence that we have found and that we have released directly point to President Obama
00:10:06.540 leading the manufacturing of this intelligence assessment.
00:10:10.880 There are multiple pieces of evidence and intelligence that confirm that fact.
00:10:15.620 On Wednesday evening, the DOJ announcing the creation of a strike force to, quote,
00:10:19.900 assess the evidence publicized by DNI Gabbard and investigate potential next legal steps,
00:10:25.520 which might stem from those disclosures.
00:10:28.860 Coming up, stalling in Washington, maneuvering in the courts, a deep dive into the battle
00:10:34.220 to keep President Trump's prosecutors out of power.
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00:11:21.780 President Trump's nominees for key U.S.
00:11:27.000 attorney positions facing resistance on multiple fronts, from what the DOJ calls judicial overreach
00:11:32.980 and Senate stonewalling.
00:11:35.300 Interim U.S.
00:11:36.080 Attorney General for the District of New Jersey, Alina Haba, set to reach the end of her 120-day
00:11:40.880 term later this week.
00:11:42.580 When there is no Senate-confirmed nominee, district judges are allowed to appoint a replacement.
00:11:47.300 The Trump administration lobbying the judges to reappoint Haba to the position, making her
00:11:52.320 role permanent as her nomination is currently stalled out in the Senate.
00:11:56.280 However, the judges instead taking the unusual, rare step of appointing her deputy, Desiree Lee
00:12:02.800 Grace, to take the top spot once Haba's term expires.
00:12:06.580 The DOJ firing back, removing Grace from her post, saying the DOJ does not tolerate rogue judges.
00:12:12.340 We spoke to senior counsel at the Article 3 project, Will Chamberlain, who says the judge's
00:12:17.220 decision smacks of political motivation.
00:12:19.920 First off, it's abnormal for judges to ever use this statute.
00:12:23.740 It's very, very rare.
00:12:25.020 We don't usually, usually because the Senate goes ahead and acts on U.S.
00:12:29.520 attorney appointments in an expeditious manner.
00:12:31.300 But the Senate, even with a Democrat minority, is being extremely obstructionist with all of
00:12:35.880 President Trump's appointees, including his U.S.
00:12:37.720 attorney appointees.
00:12:38.300 As a result, the vacancy statutes and the interim people are becoming much more important.
00:12:44.800 So that's why this is happening.
00:12:46.520 Now, there's a lot of questions here about what was the district court doing and were
00:12:50.680 these judges motivated by improper political factors?
00:12:53.400 Because Hakeem Jeffries, the Democrat leader in the House, actually posted that these judges
00:12:58.560 should go against Alina Haba.
00:13:00.620 And these judges have an ethical obligation not to engage in any sort of political conduct
00:13:04.680 whatsoever or to let political motivations influence their decision making.
00:13:08.100 So if these Democrat-appointed judges went along with a Democrat rep to thwart President
00:13:14.080 Trump's control of his own executive branch, that would be a serious problem.
00:13:17.280 Chamberlain says what happens next is unclear, but the Trump administration has several options
00:13:21.880 for restoring Haba to her position.
00:13:24.440 It's not clear exactly what's going to happen next, but most likely Haba is going to be reappointed
00:13:29.060 under in one of two ways.
00:13:31.520 First, she could be appointed as the first assistant U.S.
00:13:35.260 attorney in the District of New Jersey and under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act.
00:13:39.140 That would make her the acting U.S.
00:13:42.020 attorney.
00:13:42.540 So that's one way to accomplish this.
00:13:43.940 This was actually done already in the Northern District of New York with the U.S.
00:13:47.520 attorney there.
00:13:48.260 And then the second way is, theoretically, under the statute, they could just reappoint
00:13:52.240 Alina Haba.
00:13:53.380 Like, it's not clear that the statute stops Pambani from continually making these temporary
00:14:00.680 appointments and appointing the same person over and over again.
00:14:03.080 Chamberlain believes in a showdown between the New Jersey District Court and the Trump
00:14:06.600 administration, the Trump administration will win.
00:14:09.640 The president has the right to control who's in his executive branch, fundamentally.
00:14:13.680 Attempting to appoint a U.S.
00:14:15.740 attorney against the wishes of the Department of Justice is going rogue.
00:14:18.940 I mean, how are judges supposed to be able to appoint their own prosecutor?
00:14:22.060 It's Article 3 controlling Article 2.
00:14:23.820 I think that the judges can't win this battle, given the way that the Supreme Court is looking
00:14:28.380 at a lot of the removal statutes and, you know, a lot of these independent agencies.
00:14:32.760 The Supreme Court has already made clear that they think the president has the ability to
00:14:37.440 hire, to fire, for example, the head of the Office of Special Counsel.
00:14:41.520 And it seems very likely that Humphrey's executor, which is the case that created these sort
00:14:46.740 of independent agencies, that limited presidential removal powers, that those are all going to go.
00:14:52.200 So I suspect that President Trump is going to win this battle, just like he's been winning
00:14:56.560 almost all of his other court battles that give him the right to control the functioning
00:15:00.120 of his own executive branch.
00:15:01.760 U.S.
00:15:02.180 Senators from New Jersey, Cory Booker and Andy Kim, both Democrats, condemning the firing.
00:15:07.300 The chief judge, Renee Marie Blum, a George W.
00:15:10.180 Bush appointee, responding through an aide, quote,
00:15:12.740 the court will have no comment. A second Trump nominee, U.S.
00:15:16.580 Attorney for the Central District of California, Bill Assaylee, covering L.A., Orange, Riverside,
00:15:22.220 San Bernardino, Ventura, Santa Barbara, and San Luis Obispo counties, stalled out due to lack
00:15:27.660 of support from the Democrat senators from California, Adam Schiff and Alex Padilla.
00:15:32.680 Chamberlain explains why these senators do not want Assaylee to remain in his position.
00:15:37.680 Assaylee is doing a remarkably good job. He and his office have been very clever in terms
00:15:42.600 of dealing with the recalcitrants from local authorities in Los Angeles who have been trying
00:15:47.280 to fight President Trump's immigration enforcement efforts. And one of the big things he did was he
00:15:52.060 found a way to work around the sanctuary city policies of Los Angeles by instead of having
00:15:59.260 ICE filed detainer requests for criminal aliens, he instead just indicted them for being in the country.
00:16:05.600 And by indicting them, local authorities are allowed to disregard an ICE retainer,
00:16:09.280 but they're not allowed to disregard a federal judicial warrant. So he's found a way to route
00:16:13.440 around the L.A. sanctuary city policies. One may wonder why a Republican nominee would need
00:16:19.120 the approval of two rival Democrat senators. Chamberlain explains. For U.S. attorneys and
00:16:25.140 district court and appellate judges in their states, traditionally the Senate has a history of
00:16:29.500 what's called the blue slip. This means that a judge or a U.S. attorney won't be appointed within
00:16:34.460 the jurisdiction of that senator unless the senator gives his approval. So it's a way for any individual
00:16:39.520 state senator to have a veto over the appointments in their own state. It kind of increases the power
00:16:43.700 of individual senators, which makes sense as to why the Senate would adopt this practice right there.
00:16:47.980 The Senate as a way of, you know, increasing the power of its members individually, it essentially
00:16:53.320 defers to them on the appointments that happen in their own state. Now, this isn't, this is just a rule
00:16:57.620 and a custom. It's not an absolute requirement, but the Senate tries to adhere to it as much as
00:17:03.120 possible. That said, here, I think that there's no reason to expect that Adam Schiff and Alex Padilla
00:17:08.940 would ever sign off on anybody that President Trump would consider acceptable in these offices.
00:17:13.860 So my hope is that the Senate ignores the blue slip requirement when it comes to California.
00:17:18.860 Assaylee's term is set to expire at the end of the month. It's not yet clear whether judges in his
00:17:23.460 district will attempt to follow suit with New Jersey judges in appointing their own preferred
00:17:28.020 U.S. attorney. Chamberlain says the Senate has bypassed blue slip approval in the past,
00:17:33.260 but more importantly, Republicans in the Senate need to move through nominations faster,
00:17:38.000 even if it means canceling or shortening the August recess.
00:17:41.580 It's not just U.S. attorneys, it's throughout the government. There are presidential appointees that
00:17:44.860 are having to wait very, very patiently in line. It's very clear that the Democrats are taking their
00:17:49.400 sweet time and forcing the maximum amount of debate on all these appointments.
00:17:52.140 And it really is cramping the ability of President Trump to run the government.
00:17:56.920 The Senate needs to stay. If Democrats are going to act like this, then John Thune shouldn't just
00:18:01.280 keep every senator in Washington, D.C. He should keep them there and have them be voting day and
00:18:06.640 night weekends. If the Democrats want this to be the way it works, then the Senate needs to just
00:18:12.020 stay in D.C. I apologize for those who have vacations that they're going to miss, but that's
00:18:16.480 the way the cookie crumbles.
00:18:17.960 Majority Leader Thune reportedly warning senators earlier this week to be ready to
00:18:21.780 possibly work through the first week of August.
00:18:26.100 And that'll do it for your AM update. I'm Megan Kelly. Join me back here for The Megan Kelly Show
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