The Megyn Kelly Show - BONUS EPISODE ｜ The Glenn Beck Program with Liz Wheeler

00:00:00.000 Hey everyone, it's Megan Kelly. I have no doubt you know Glenn Beck, the one and only. He's been

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00:00:27.480 and talk to you soon. America's children are under attack. We all know it. I don't care who

00:00:33.820 you voted for. They're taught that there is no such thing as truth. Gender is malleable. Racism can never

00:00:43.160 be overcome. These things are not true. The question is, why are they being taught? Why are our schools

00:00:50.360 more interested in critical race theory or any critical theory more than arithmetic? Why are

00:00:57.360 parents blocked from intervening in their own child's education? Why are they fighting for

00:01:03.120 pornography in school libraries? Are kids being groomed for a Marxist takeover? Well, the answers

00:01:11.120 are here. A staunch defender of our liberty and our kids. The new book is called Hide Your Children,

00:01:20.340 Exposing the Marxist Behind the Attack on America's Kids. There are very few books that I read about

00:01:27.040 progressivism or history where I actually learn quite a lot. This is one of those books really

00:01:36.340 well written by today's conservative commentator, author, and mother and guest on today's podcast,

00:01:43.340 Liz Wheeler. Welcome. How are you? I'm good. Thanks for having me. Yeah. I will tell you,

00:02:02.800 you had me at the Woodrow Wilson bashing. I mean, anyone who can bash Woodrow Wilson,

00:02:09.720 and you're one of the best ones, is all right in my book. I want to talk to you about him

00:02:15.500 as we go through. There's so much to learn in your book, and you've done such a great job of

00:02:24.060 tracking it from the beginning. And once you understand the roots and you see the real evil root,

00:02:34.660 it's pretty easy to see where we're going and what the real objective is, isn't it?

00:02:42.300 It is. One of the things that would constantly hit home to me when I was writing this book,

00:02:47.220 you know, late nights of researching for a year, is once you see this stuff, you can't unsee it.

00:02:52.940 And you see the manifestation of it everywhere. And one of the things I think that conservatives forget,

00:03:00.580 because we so often accuse, and rightfully so, the mainstream media and Democrats of lying,

00:03:06.200 we dismiss all of their fake news and their false narratives, is they actually, at the same time,

00:03:10.980 do tell us exactly what their goal is and how they're going to accomplish it. We forget to believe them.

00:03:16.260 I know. It's so incredible, especially lately, how clear it all is. I mean, they do tell us every

00:03:26.540 step of the way exactly what they're going to do. And then people claim it's conspiracy.

00:03:31.880 No, they just said that. And with history, you know, they actually mean it. So who are we facing?

00:03:39.040 What is what is attacking us right now?

00:03:42.380 Particularly what's attacking our children are the forces of Marxism. And I don't mean that just in a

00:03:48.400 philosophical way. I mean, actual Marxists, people who believe that we should overthrow capitalism,

00:03:54.820 people who believe that we should impose communism on the United States, people who believe in the

00:04:00.020 downfall of Western civilization are using our children to try to cause chaos in our society,

00:04:06.960 to destroy our civil institutions, which are our cultural institutions, in order to destabilize

00:04:14.180 the entire rule of law and fabric of the United States of America, to then be able to have access

00:04:21.060 to toppling the governmental institutions. Give me a name in the most obvious example of that.

00:04:26.220 So one of the most obvious examples that's been in the news lately is the president of the American

00:04:30.080 Library Association, Emily Drabinski, who she's in the news because she's defending pornographic 0.79

00:04:37.060 books, being in children's school and material that that indoctrinates in critical race theory.

00:04:42.900 But the day that she won that position in the American Library Association's

00:04:46.820 the top position, she tweeted, who would have thought that a Marxist could win this position?

00:04:52.700 She is a it's not me using this word to describe her based on her ideology. It's her admitting what

00:04:57.380 her ideology is. And she's an incredibly powerful person. The president of the American Library

00:05:02.500 Association makes decisions about what our children are going to be reading if they go to public schools.

00:05:07.840 And one of the things I track in my book is it's not just her in and of herself. The reason that she

00:05:14.240 won that election is because Randy Weingarten threw all of her political support behind Drabinski's 0.97

00:05:20.160 campaign. Let me take you back to history. The guy who taught people to to attack the civil institutions

00:05:30.620 in America has a modern day connection. But let's start with the history first.

00:05:37.260 Yes. This this was this blew my mind when I was researching the book. I think I was doing this

00:05:41.740 at like 1 a.m. I did a lot of the research for this book after my daughter went to sleep

00:05:45.020 and I like jumped up from my laptop when I realized this. I was like, everyone's asleep.

00:05:51.340 Making it the beginning of my book. So when we look at the cultural institutions that are

00:05:56.040 that have been compromised in our nation, it's pretty obvious. Like the media has been compromised.

00:05:59.900 The education system has been compromised. A lot of religious institutions sadly have been

00:06:03.920 compromised. The law has been compromised and they are actively the other side is actively seeking to

00:06:09.200 subvert the nuclear family. So we identify those things and we're like, OK, cool. Well, you take a

00:06:14.260 little step back in history and you realize the communism or Marxism of Karl Marx. It went out of

00:06:19.220 fashion after the Communist Manifesto died out because Karl Marx envisioned this global Marxist

00:06:23.620 revolution that didn't really happen because discontented working class really wasn't enough to spark

00:06:28.340 that. But then you have this guy in the early 20th century named Antonio Gramsci. He was the

00:06:34.120 co-founder of the Italian Communist Party and he was put in prison in fascist Italy. And while he was

00:06:39.660 in prison, he was studying Marxism and what what made the Marxist revolutions that were successful,

00:06:45.000 successful. And he accurately recognized that when a Marxist revolution was successful, it wasn't based

00:06:50.860 on economic discontent. It was based on first destroying the civil institutions on which the working

00:06:58.080 class relied. And he named, among others, the media, the education system, religious institutions,

00:07:04.640 the law and the family. Once you see this stuff, you can't unsee it. But Gramsci's work was not

00:07:10.560 prevalent in the United States for a long time. It didn't become prevalent until the 1970s. But I'm

00:07:16.060 leafing through these prison notebooks that Antonio Gramsci wrote. And I realized on the front cover of

00:07:21.880 the page, it's probably the 15th time I had this book open, that the reason I'm able to read Antonio

00:07:26.920 Gramsci, he wrote in Italian, translated into English is because of a man who translated his

00:07:32.360 work. The man's name was Joseph Buttigieg. Yes, Matt Buttigieg. This is Pete Buttigieg's father

00:07:41.700 who ran an international fan club for Antonio Gramsci, translated these words.

00:07:47.680 So it's not just that he's, you know, been intersected by heterosexual men, that, you know,

00:07:58.000 he's been oppressed because of that. He's probably legendary because of his family tie in the Marxist

00:08:05.720 circles.

00:08:06.740 You would think, I mean, you would think at the very least that some enterprising journalists

00:08:10.120 would ask the Secretary of Transportation if he shared an ideological connection in addition to the

00:08:15.480 biological relation to his Marxist father. But no one seems interested in that. It seems relevant 1.00

00:08:21.680 to me. It blew my mind. I ended up just kind of saying, you're kidding me. You're kidding me a

00:08:28.600 hundred times. It's crazy. You talk about Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood was the one that came

00:08:35.060 up with Don't Say Gay, right? Yeah. To the best of my research, and I researched this a lot, I was like,

00:08:41.900 what's the origin of the Don't Say Gay thing? It was one of the modern marvels of fake news in our 0.96

00:08:46.500 mainstream media to hear the parental rights and education bill in Florida falsely dubbed as the

00:08:51.520 Don't Say Gay bill. It was incredibly effective. And it wasn't just a phrase that someone coined on

00:08:56.720 the fly and it was catchy. It wasn't something that happened on Twitter and then people caught

00:09:00.600 onto it. The origin of the Don't Say Gay phrase was a Planned Parenthood blog post, which since we

00:09:07.760 started covering this, they've removed. But you can still access it via the Wayback Machine,

00:09:11.940 the Internet Archive. They described a bill in Missouri during 2020. It was a similar parental

00:09:17.240 rights bill that doesn't say anything about prohibiting people from saying the word gay.

00:09:21.260 They described it as the Don't Say Gay bill. And the reason why is quite shocking because you think,

00:09:27.160 OK, well, why does Planned Parenthood care about this? Like all the things like their business is

00:09:30.660 abortion. Why are they focused on this? Planned Parenthood has become one of the largest distributors

00:09:35.200 of transgender hormone therapy in the country. Oh, my gosh. It's their new it's their new 1.00

00:09:40.560 avenue of blood money. And they need people to believe that that conservatives are trying to

00:09:46.460 prohibit people from staying gay to protect their own business interests. Is this does this go back

00:09:52.260 to their original founding? They're just they are about population control. Is that what this is?

00:09:57.800 It's all tied together. I talk a little bit about Margaret Sanger. I mean, most of us know a little

00:10:01.780 bit about Margaret Sanger, the founder of Planned Parenthood. We know she was a eugenicist. We know she was

00:10:05.180 a racist. I mean, she wanted to call birth control race control originally, which tells you all you

00:10:10.700 need to know, really. But she also well, she wasn't a self-avowed Marxist. I mean, she was also

00:10:17.200 surrounded by socialists and communists and Marxists. She went she she abandoned her family to have an

00:10:22.720 affair with someone who took her to the Soviet Union during during the socialist heyday. And she

00:10:28.100 praised the Soviet Union for how they how they treated women, this communist country that was starving

00:10:33.200 people. When when you are associated with beliefs like that, you are tainted by those beliefs unless

00:10:38.960 you are only associated with those beliefs because you are studying them to overturn them. Right. And

00:10:43.380 this is the Planned Parenthood is what I call one of the biggest institutional groomers in our country

00:10:48.740 grooming young women away from being feminine, grooming young men away from being masculine, 0.55

00:10:55.980 demonizing babies, of course, with their with their abortion business. Now, this transgender ideology, 1.00

00:11:01.840 they are destroying the nuclear family more effectively element by element than any other 0.95

00:11:06.300 institution that I can think of in this country. Wow. Tell me about I mean, we have to have at least a

00:11:12.940 couple of minutes of bashing Woodrow Wilson. My favorite pastimes. Oh, yeah. So happy to find you.

00:11:20.180 When I first started talking about Woodrow Wilson, everybody, everybody said, what is your deal with

00:11:27.800 Woodrow Wilson? And I'm like, you don't understand. If you don't understand him, you don't understand

00:11:34.100 what's happened because he's he took apart the Declaration of Independence, said it's worthless.

00:11:39.820 Don't pay attention to it. He hated the Constitution. He hated all kinds of things. Huge racist and believed.

00:11:49.060 Have you read Philip Drew Administrator? No, but I'll put it on my to read. It's his favorite book. He read

00:11:56.780 it like three times while he was in office and it's horrible, but it's fascinating because it describes

00:12:02.740 the administrative state. Exactly what is happening to us now. It was Woodrow Wilson's dream. He was a

00:12:08.660 very bad dude. Very bad. Very bad dude. And it's fascinating because he told us exactly what he wanted

00:12:14.320 to happen with the federal government. And lo and behold, here we are suffering under the dictates

00:12:19.580 of Fauci and the FDA and the CDC and an over all these overgrown administrative agencies that many

00:12:26.300 people weren't even aware of. They didn't think about they didn't realize how the administrative state

00:12:31.060 operates, that Congress is lazy, that Congress are cowards. They make these very vague. Well, they pass laws

00:12:40.180 that are very vague and then they say, well, we're just going to give it to you, bureaucrats, to decide what we

00:12:43.780 meant. Yes. And then bureaucrats that have been buried in administrative state agencies for who knows

00:12:48.380 how long. They want to. They want that power. They're like, please, let me take a vague statement and make it as

00:12:53.900 Marxist as possible. Yeah. And then we, as the United States, as United States

00:12:57.500 sentences, are bound to follow these rules that they dictate like they're laws. I mean, this is not a free

00:13:02.220 country. I would argue that this is completely unconstitutional. People don't realize, I think. I'm not sure I even

00:13:08.520 fully recognize this until Dr. Fauci came on the scene and he was like actively lying and spreading

00:13:14.180 misinformation and trying to boss us around, telling us we couldn't even have Thanksgiving with our

00:13:17.640 families. I don't think that it was just so jarring, I think, to see this and realize that this idea of

00:13:23.400 rule by the experts is actually has a name. It's not just Dr. Fauci. It's not just one egotistical,

00:13:28.380 tiny little man. It is technocracy that rule by the experts or rule by science. Right. And technocracy,

00:13:35.100 I unpack it in my book. There's several people who propose the idea of technocracy throughout

00:13:40.660 history, but one of the people that I found most interesting was a Russian physician named

00:13:46.680 Alexander Bogdanov. He wrote a fiction book about technocracy in which he had people go to Mars or

00:13:53.900 something not interesting. But the purpose of that is they were going to change the civilization of Mars

00:13:59.220 from capitalism to communism and use technocracy as a stepping stone by the experts as a stepping

00:14:06.180 stone because you and I are not allowed to question the experts because we are not the experts. Correct.

00:14:10.460 So it's authoritarianism. And wait until it's AI. Yeah. All an expert has to say is

00:14:18.680 the AI, quantum computing, you can't even understand it. This is the best path.

00:14:25.700 Who are you to question? Are you you have quantum computing in your pocket or you do you have all

00:14:33.640 the library knowledge of the entire history of man in your head? You people will just be like,

00:14:40.660 oh, well, the AI says that. I mean, that is that is around the corner. It's terrifying because we keep

00:14:48.140 giving power to people in the administrative state who all they want is power and control and,

00:14:56.700 you know, authoritarianism. You don't think they're going to use AI to help them on that?

00:15:04.180 We don't.

00:15:04.540 You know what gets me about AI is people talk about AI often as if it's this autonomous being

00:15:09.880 that it's like its own living entity. I'm like, you realize that somebody had to write the code,

00:15:14.280 like a hunk of junk computer doesn't run on its own unless someone puts it together and puts a

00:15:18.360 series of numbers and letters into it that tells it what to do. Right. And you can you can put a 0.81

00:15:22.560 series of code in that's very impressive and makes this machine operate. But someone has to write

00:15:26.980 that. Are you telling me that without knowing who's writing that and who's influencing the people

00:15:30.680 that are writing that and who's paying the people who are influencing the people who are writing that,

00:15:34.320 that that's not going to manipulate you towards an ideological end? I know. Please.

00:15:38.040 I've always said, don't fear the technology, fear the people running and writing the code. However,

00:15:46.520 AI is now making leaps and and jumps in knowledge that we don't even know how it works. And the

00:15:56.380 scariest thing is there is this entity, if you will, that is this giant hive mind. And it only has

00:16:07.620 one little spout and all of these, you know, AI people are like, no, we'll just keep turning that

00:16:15.300 down. It's churning all down here. It's learning and churning. And they're saying, oh, but we're only

00:16:22.460 going to let a little bit out. This figures that out pretty quickly, pretty damn quickly.

00:16:29.680 Um, so, you know, the one thing I really loved about this, because I am so concerned about,

00:16:39.360 I'm not sure a society has ever gone this far and gone back to freedom and liberty.

00:16:50.880 Um, we have too many emergencies coming our way, too many hardships coming our way.

00:16:56.260 And without God, we'll never make it, never make it unless we are rooted in our principles and

00:17:03.000 values. Nobody knows the constitution. Nobody knows that if you just really understood the

00:17:08.520 declaration of independence and you could carry that around with you, that's our mission statement.

00:17:16.120 I know what we're trying to build because of that. I believe in that. Let's build that.

00:17:24.040 The constitution is the owner's manual that nobody ever reads.

00:17:28.900 And because nobody is ever reading this and because people are starting to say, you know,

00:17:34.900 it's because of God and things are out of control, you can get into toxic stew of a

00:17:44.720 quasi-religious, fascistic sort of government that fast. And that would come from the right. 0.99

00:17:52.800 You know what you're getting? You're getting a godless, uh, horror show on the left, but you could

00:18:00.360 get a really perverted country on the right that Americans wouldn't understand. Do you agree with

00:18:09.520 that? First of all, I think so. Yeah. Because every person, it doesn't matter if you're Democrat or

00:18:13.140 Republican has a propensity to want power and to wield it over other people. I mean, hopefully you

00:18:20.240 and I don't want to use that and understand that it's something that would lead us towards sin. But,

00:18:26.400 and I guess we think of Democrats as being more prone to use that because they are godless oftentimes,

00:18:31.100 but every person has that. Everybody does. Everybody does. So certainly, I mean, it's not really a matter of,

00:18:36.400 um, government officials of if they would abuse power, if they have the opportunity to, it's when

00:18:41.400 and how. And that's true of both parties. What you just said is so important because you sound like

00:18:47.920 the founders. I know the nature of man. And if there were better angels amongst us, where are they

00:18:57.540 in government? Where are they? And, uh, man goes bad. That's the point that I became a huge fan,

00:19:07.840 huge fan of yours. And I can't tell you how much I would highly recommend your books because you

00:19:14.160 include in your solutions, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. That is the

00:19:21.680 answer. If we will do self-control ourselves in our own life, if we will stand up and say,

00:19:29.700 I'm not afraid of you. And you know what? If jail's good enough for Martin Luther King over the truth,

00:19:36.760 then it's good enough for me. And I'm not going to be scared by that. People are too afraid to stand up.

00:19:43.920 And I think it's because they don't know what's at stake. They don't know what they're fighting for.

00:19:51.680 And, uh, and generally people are mice. Yeah. I mean, our founders recognize what you're saying.

00:19:59.000 And it's why Ben Franklin said a Republic, if you can keep it. And he wasn't talking to a tyrant when

00:20:04.100 he said that he was talking to a widow who agreed with his moral philosophy. I think Republicans have

00:20:11.000 gotten very squeamish of being associated with religion at all because we are rightly skeptical 0.99

00:20:18.200 of going down the path of theocracy. And I want to be very clear that what I'm proposing is not

00:20:22.540 theocracy. I'm never proposing that someone be forced to go to church or someone be prohibited

00:20:26.620 from going to another church. Yeah. I'm not proposing a state religion. What I'm proposing

00:20:30.640 is that we recapture what our constitution intended, which is that we have a preexisting

00:20:36.520 definition of, of these words of objective reality, man, woman, marriage, morality, immorality,

00:20:42.940 liberty, justice, and that we don't allow our society to violate natural law. You can ignore

00:20:48.340 natural law if you're not a religious believer, but that doesn't make it exist less. Correct.

00:20:53.020 It's still there. Saying that a man could have a baby is like saying gravity doesn't exist in

00:20:59.120 Nebraska. Yes, it does. Yes, it does. Come to Nebraska with me. We don't have a cohesive society

00:21:07.240 unless we come to an agreement. And this is probably more, yes, we're gonna have dissenters

00:21:11.680 in the Democrat Party, but unless Republicans come to an agreement that, A, we're not going to be

00:21:15.140 cowards about admitting that any kind of morality and all of our laws are based on religious 0.65

00:21:21.480 morality. Our laws against murder are based on the idea that, well, it doesn't matter if a dog 0.98

00:21:25.980 kills another dog, right? Right. Okay. Well, people aren't allowed to kill other people because

00:21:30.260 we're made in the image and likeness of God, because that person has dignity and value and

00:21:34.220 rights that were given to him or her by, by our creator. This is the foundation of the most basic

00:21:39.420 laws in our society. It are our Judeo-Christian values. And if we get away from that, we are never 1.00

00:21:44.760 going to be able to recapture our society because it's a different society than we are trying to create.

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The Megyn Kelly Show - June 13, 2024

BONUS EPISODE ｜ The Glenn Beck Program with Liz Wheeler

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